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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WVZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're heading into the nine o'clock hour. Al Griffith,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much. There would be an interesting story

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow in the Boston Globe by Emily Spatz, who's a

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<v Speaker 2>Globe correspondent. This was released today early this morning by

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<v Speaker 2>the Globe. So it wasn't in I do not believe

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<v Speaker 2>it was in any of the print editions today. Rats

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston are spreading a potentially deadly disease. Research says, look,

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<v Speaker 2>no one, no one likes rats, okay of any sort,

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<v Speaker 2>But apparently apparently there's a potential deadly disease that normally

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<v Speaker 2>is associated with tropical areas. This is from a study

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<v Speaker 2>by Tufts University researchers. Now, the disease is known as leptospirosis.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the Globe story, it's it's commonality or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It will likely increase with climate change, meaning that it

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<v Speaker 2>comes from warmer climes, but even to areas here. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is a six year study that found most rat

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<v Speaker 2>populations in Boston carried this disease, causing bacteria. The researchers

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<v Speaker 2>apparently found that distinct rodent populations across the city Boston

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<v Speaker 2>carry different variations of the bacteria that can be spread

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<v Speaker 2>between the rat colonies. This is pretty scary stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>this disease, lepto spirosis, can affect you and me, It

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<v Speaker 2>can affect your pets. This is tough. Symptoms change mild

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<v Speaker 2>and flu like from let's say an upset stomach to

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<v Speaker 2>more severe and in rare cases, but in some cases

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<v Speaker 2>resulting in multi organ failure and death. Now, as the

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<v Speaker 2>article goes on to explain, this disease causing bacteria which

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<v Speaker 2>is carried by the rats thrive in warm, moist environments,

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<v Speaker 2>think of the Caribbean, and they're spread. The bacteria is

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<v Speaker 2>spread through the urine of the infected animals, which then,

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<v Speaker 2>needless to say, can contaminate water and soil found worldwide.

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<v Speaker 2>But according to the Globe story, temperatures rise due to

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<v Speaker 2>climate change. As temperatures rise due to climate change, this

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<v Speaker 2>becoming increasingly common in cooler areas, including the Northeast, said

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<v Speaker 2>Marie k Rosenbaum, co senior author of the study's an

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<v Speaker 2>assistant professor in the Department of Infectious Disease and Global

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<v Speaker 2>Health at the Coming School of Veterinary medicine at toughs universities.

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<v Speaker 2>Humans can contract this disease. And you know, it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>when you talk about something like this that hasn't happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like talking about COVID nineteen. In December of twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>It was on the radar of some people. There were

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<v Speaker 2>people who were dying in China, large groups of people.

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<v Speaker 2>There was satellite photos photos of Chinese cities where there

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<v Speaker 2>were body bags lined up and I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we're asleep, Maybe it's the holidays. No one knew

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<v Speaker 2>about COVID until it really started to hit, and it

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<v Speaker 2>hit hard here in Boston. So this is the sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing that we got to be concerned about. This

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<v Speaker 2>researcher Mari k Rosenbaum said, it's hard to say how

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<v Speaker 2>many people have been infected with the disease in Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>as many they'll get tested because they're asymptomatic or only

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<v Speaker 2>receive a diagnosis if their illness is severe. But the

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<v Speaker 2>study did track one human case from twenty eighteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>the city had found that is likely originating from a rat.

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<v Speaker 2>The patients was hospitalized ultimately did recover. So this paper

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<v Speaker 2>is part of a project out of tuff, stubbed the

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Urban Rat Study, which focuses in the role Rodent's

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<v Speaker 2>play here in Boston. Now, this, this is a problem, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can tell you that although I don't live

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston, I have lived in Boston, and rats are

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<v Speaker 2>not uncommon in Boston. And I'm not talking about elected

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<v Speaker 2>political officials here. I'm talking about the four legged kind

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<v Speaker 2>that you find that you see on city streets, in

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhoods and probably every part of Boston. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that is because of our own laziness. We don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to put trash in dumpsters. We just want to put

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<v Speaker 2>it in like the plastic bags in the alley or wherever.

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<v Speaker 2>And rats they're smart, they're survivors. You know. They say

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<v Speaker 2>after nuclear war, the only things that will survive will

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<v Speaker 2>be rats and cockroaches. So what I'm hoping to do

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<v Speaker 2>is I'd like to get sort of informal survey tonight

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<v Speaker 2>from people not only in Boston but elsewhere. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming that in suburban areas there are rats as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly there're a mice, but the mice have a better

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<v Speaker 2>reputation than rats. I mean, given a choice between having

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<v Speaker 2>a mouse in your cellar and a rat in your cellar,

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<v Speaker 2>I think most of us will take a mouse. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's because of Mickey Mouse and Minie Mouse, and we

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<v Speaker 2>think they're a little cuter than rats. But rats, they

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<v Speaker 2>you can go back to the to the to the

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<v Speaker 2>Middle Middle Ages bubonic plague. It was carried by rats.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they've been everywhere. We're a port city. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of waterfront in Boston. I'm not blaming

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<v Speaker 2>anyone in Boston. I think we all have a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of responsibility here. If you have if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>drive down any of the alleyways between Commab and Newberry

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<v Speaker 2>Street or over and between Beacon Street and Marlborough Street,

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<v Speaker 2>you have these alleyways and they're just full of dumpsters

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<v Speaker 2>that are improperly locked. If they're locked at all, they're overflowing.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is basing an invitation to rats. Hey have that?

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<v Speaker 2>Have that, folks, It's as simple as that, and they

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of a more disgusting animal to have

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<v Speaker 2>in my neighborhood. Oh what I would like to find

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<v Speaker 2>out is what neighborhoods in Boston have we seen rats?

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<v Speaker 2>And if you live in Brighton, Alston, Rossendale, West Roxbury, Mattapenn, Dorchester, Roxbury,

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<v Speaker 2>South End, Back Bay, Beacon Hill, Charlestown, West End, the

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<v Speaker 2>Old West End, East Boston, North End. I would be

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<v Speaker 2>willing to bet that every person who's listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>program and living in one of those neighborhoods and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't hit them all, Jamaica. Plain. There's a few more

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<v Speaker 2>that we could have mentioned. You've seen rats. That is

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<v Speaker 2>not a good sign. You're going to read this article

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<v Speaker 2>in the Globe tomorrow and you're going to be disgusted.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a statistic here that says a study in the

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<v Speaker 2>journal Science shows that the rat population in Boston increased

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<v Speaker 2>by fifty three percent between twenty eleven and twenty twenty one. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's attributed to warming temperatures in the article. However, However,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the warming ten temperatures are not the

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<v Speaker 2>primary problem. Okay, the primary problem are people like you

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<v Speaker 2>and me who don't want to make sure that our

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<v Speaker 2>trash goes in a container tied up so it's not

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<v Speaker 2>spilling all over the place, and it's inside either an

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<v Speaker 2>iron a dumpster which the rats can't get into, or

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<v Speaker 2>in some sort of a blue or a green plastic

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<v Speaker 2>barrel with the rats cannot tip over as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 2>So going to open up the phone lines we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this for an hour. Coming up at ten o'clock tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk with a very interesting guest, someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's a friend of mine and he is a researcher

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<v Speaker 2>for amongst other things, a very smart guy. His name

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<v Speaker 2>is Tatsukita. We've had him on before. He is an

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<v Speaker 2>investigative journalist and analyst, and he believes that Israel has

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<v Speaker 2>taken on a fight that they might not be able

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<v Speaker 2>to win. You know how I feel about Israel. When

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<v Speaker 2>I read this, I was not happy to read it,

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<v Speaker 2>because he does great analytics, and he is giving us

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<v Speaker 2>not what he would like to see happen, but what

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks might see happen. But first, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>spend another forty two minutes talking about rats. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that everybody should be listening. I suspect most of

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<v Speaker 2>my listeners are people who are responsible disposers of their refuge.

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<v Speaker 2>But take a look around next time you walk down

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<v Speaker 2>the street. See how many pizza boxes, how many pizza

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<v Speaker 2>slices are on the ground. Who's picking those up? It's

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<v Speaker 2>the rats. It's as simple as that. Six one seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four ten thirty and six one seven, nine three one

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Coming right back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side five with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>In the article in the Globe tomorrow, there is a

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<v Speaker 2>photograph which I guess is from the Alston Christmas. It's trash,

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<v Speaker 2>just trash strewn in front of five Ashford Street during

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<v Speaker 2>the Allston Annual Christmas in twenty twenty three. Allston Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>comes like in late August when people are moving out

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<v Speaker 2>of apartments. And what really bothers me is that people

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<v Speaker 2>families live in Allston, in Brighton and these people who

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<v Speaker 2>have rented students or whatever, and they're just leaving town

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<v Speaker 2>and they're leaving their trash behind. Let's go to the phones.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Steve and Cambridge. I know Steve

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<v Speaker 2>has seen rats and Cambridge. Steve, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Dan?

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<v Speaker 4>I was better before I heard you giving this story,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm still okay, good damn. One thing I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to say, because you know I'm a skeptic, is that

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<v Speaker 4>I think if you're in the profession of science, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to get published or funded our media attention.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always a good idea to link whatever it is

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<v Speaker 4>to climate change.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely, and I understand that. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>this is an article that will be in the Globe

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and I read it. I thought it's well well presented,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to talk about it. How much you

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<v Speaker 2>live in Cambridge? Yes, do you see rats and Cambridge

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<v Speaker 2>and leave the politicians.

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<v Speaker 4>Out of the Okay, Well, I was in a very

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<v Speaker 4>popular restaurant in Cambridge, a bar restaurant, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>I was in there by myself, in the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>the restaurant. I'm not going to give you the name.

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<v Speaker 4>And I looked down at the floor and this is

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<v Speaker 4>It was a busy night, you know, and there was

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<v Speaker 4>this rat looking right in my face. Oh he was

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<v Speaker 4>staring at me, but he didn't seem to be paying

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<v Speaker 4>attention to anybody else in the restaurant, just me. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>it was spooky, Dan. And the other night I was

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<v Speaker 4>down I went to.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have jumped up and screamed or something. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>not that I'm scared, but I mean that is a frightening.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Dan, it happens if you live in the city.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was down at the Tremont Theater the other day.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember the name of you. Do you know

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<v Speaker 4>the big movie theater that's right on Tremont Street near

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<v Speaker 4>the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Book right by the Boston Commons.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, And I was standing, I was sitting in the

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<v Speaker 4>common waiting for a friend, and a rat ran over

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<v Speaker 4>my foot. Dan, I'm not freaked out by rats. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like him. But but what concerns me, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>is the number of these black boxes that contain rat

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<v Speaker 4>poison that you see absolutely everywhere. Sure, yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I wonder if it's going to lose its effectivity.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if there are some people concerned about its

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<v Speaker 4>ecological problems. I mean, if these black boxes worked, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't suppose we'd have that many rats. What do you

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<v Speaker 4>think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they'd be better if they put birth control

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<v Speaker 2>pills around. And I'm serious when I say I'm not joking,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would think that that just these rats, they

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<v Speaker 2>just overpopulate, and once you get two or six or

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<v Speaker 2>eight or ten, unless you do something about the population.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that they do it with in certain like

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<v Speaker 2>with deer and certain you know species that have overpopulated areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty simple. I just think. You know, the rats are

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<v Speaker 2>going to do what rats do, and we can't stop that,

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<v Speaker 2>but we can we can certainly diminish the number of

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<v Speaker 2>offspring they might produce in any given year.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Dan, you know, you're right, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but you unfortunately you know what human nature is and

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<v Speaker 4>people are. It's very hard to get people to dispose

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<v Speaker 4>of garbage or recyclables or anything in a neat and

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<v Speaker 2>I have two green barrels and a blue barrel. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it takes a little effort, But I don't want rats.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't want anything. And I'm look, if

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<v Speaker 2>you see this picture of the globe tomorrow, no, I

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a good it's a good thing. The globe is,

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<v Speaker 4>You're in it.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they want to put a climate change spin

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<v Speaker 2>on it, that's fine. But when, when and how they

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<v Speaker 2>judge this, I don't know. They do have a statistic

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<v Speaker 2>here that says the rat population. According to a study

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<v Speaker 2>published in the journal Science, the rat population in Boston

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<v Speaker 2>increased by fifty three percent between twenty eleven and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one. That's a big jump.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I mean, I think between twenty twenty one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I think COVID may have had something to do with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but with the rat with the restaurants shutting down,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the restaurants, Yeah, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people they drive down the back alleys, they open

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<v Speaker 2>dumpster and enough, it spills, it misses, it spills, and uh, Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know. I'm sure that every

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<v Speaker 2>part of the country has some form of problems. But

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<v Speaker 2>we got a rat problem in Boston.

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<v Speaker 4>And the same as does New York.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, the.

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<v Speaker 2>City hasn't addressed it. Okay, simple as that, simple as that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's gonna get worse.

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<v Speaker 4>Hope, take care.

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<v Speaker 6>That's great weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you to let me go from Steven Camber. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go across country. To Lola in San Diego. Lola, got

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<v Speaker 2>any rats in San Diego?

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<v Speaker 3>Hi?

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<v Speaker 7>Dan, I'm not in San Diego now, I'm in Watertown.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Welcome home, welcome.

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<v Speaker 7>Home, thank you. So Watertown, right outside my mother's house

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<v Speaker 7>under the lamp post is a rat trap.

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<v Speaker 2>Now who put that there?

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<v Speaker 7>Is?

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<v Speaker 2>That put there by the town?

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<v Speaker 7>The time city. It's not a town anymore, Water of Watertown.

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<v Speaker 7>But I want you to remember Jack what's his name,

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<v Speaker 7>hack Gene Hackman, him and his wife.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what they died of.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great happen Yes, yes, yes, that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 2>They and they were living in New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, in the desert where so that it gets dry,

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<v Speaker 7>the urine gets dry and turns to dust and then

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<v Speaker 7>it blows around.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's my question. Why would there be so many

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<v Speaker 2>rats in New Mexico. I would think that that is

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<v Speaker 2>that's a rural cut, you know, state, and.

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<v Speaker 7>That well, they must have had trash. That the house

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<v Speaker 7>that they were living in was not there, they rented it.

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<v Speaker 7>So maybe they were leaving trash around and the rats came.

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<v Speaker 7>Rats were everywhere, I guess so.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I'm saying is, I'm just thinking that if

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<v Speaker 2>if they were living in Cambridge or San Diego. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're living somewhere and it looked like a nice area.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know whether or not, you know, Hackman had

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<v Speaker 2>lost his sense of his sense of living or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But married, they were, you know, a couple, the older couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Did no one check on them?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, yeah, no from what from what I read

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<v Speaker 7>that the kids were estranged. He married a woman. I

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<v Speaker 7>think she was sixty five when she died. He was

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<v Speaker 7>ninety five. I don't know, but it was from that mouse,

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<v Speaker 7>the mouse rat dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what a way to go, What a way to.

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<v Speaker 7>What a way to go if you're gonna go go,

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<v Speaker 7>go go big?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, not from rat to hop.

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<v Speaker 2>People, well exactly, I mean, you know, you you think

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<v Speaker 2>about all the different I had a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 2>who a few days ago passed out literally while he

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<v Speaker 2>was waiting to have dinner. And he was gone. His

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<v Speaker 2>wife said he was gone in an instance, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course the shock was was extraordinary. But when it's time,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time, and when the big guy upstairs blows the

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<v Speaker 2>whistle and says, you know you're done. But compared of

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<v Speaker 2>Gene Hackman and his wife and what a you know

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<v Speaker 2>what a wonderful actor and how many ye were entertained

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<v Speaker 2>by him over the years. Just ignominious, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well welcome, definitely welcome back home. Say how do you

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<v Speaker 2>mom for us?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I will, I will. She's in assisted living and

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<v Speaker 7>she's running the show up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well the daughter, the apple doesn't fall far from

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<v Speaker 2>the tree, Lola.

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<v Speaker 7>If you know dance, I know, but Dan, this is like,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just unfathomable. And I walk in the house and

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<v Speaker 7>now I'm gonna I started throwing stuff that I can

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<v Speaker 7>in the refrigerator, in the cupboards of old medicine. I've

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<v Speaker 7>only I got off the plane at five thirty. I've

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<v Speaker 7>started my cask.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what, get get a good night's sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>You're well, you're on California time, but get a good night. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and start with it. And again, your mom took good

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<v Speaker 2>care of you when you were young. I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>tables have turned a little bit.

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<v Speaker 7>But the tables have turned. But boy, you know, when

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<v Speaker 7>you're twenty having a child, it's different than when you're

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<v Speaker 7>seventy four and trying to you know, liquid gate, I get.

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<v Speaker 2>It, I get it. Thanks love talk soon.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Dan, Yes, talk soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing here comes the news at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I got one line at six one seven, two, five four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty and I got one line at six one

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<v Speaker 2>seven nine. We will we have a yes coming joining

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<v Speaker 2>us at ten o'clock. So, if you want to get

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<v Speaker 2>in on this, have you seen rats in your neighborhood?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you complained about this to anyone? Has anyone actually

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<v Speaker 2>responded in kind? Or did your play did your complaints

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<v Speaker 2>fall on deaf ears? And tell us this is a

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<v Speaker 2>great opportunity. If you called state Representative so and so,

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<v Speaker 2>or state Senator so and so, or city council or

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<v Speaker 2>so and so, and you've got no action, this is

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to tell that story. We're coming back on

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<v Speaker 2>nights Side. Got a couple of lines open, give us

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<v Speaker 2>a call.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones we go, Thank you, Madison. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me go next to Mark, who's in Boston. Hey? Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>you were in I think rat Central. How are you Mark? Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you? I'm doing just great? What's your experience

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<v Speaker 2>with rats in Boston?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you're mentioning a couple of things. First, of all,

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<v Speaker 6>you said that they can't get in dumpsters, but the

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<v Speaker 6>dumpsters are they're rusted out on the bottom, Okay, you

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<v Speaker 6>can you can see on the sides and to where

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<v Speaker 6>they go to the from the side of the dumpster

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<v Speaker 6>to the bottom of the dumpster where it goes on

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<v Speaker 6>the kron concrete. There's there's usually rusted out and there's

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<v Speaker 6>holes they can walk right in and you know, just

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<v Speaker 6>have dinner all night long. And I reported this, I've

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<v Speaker 6>set photos to three one one, and they said they're

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<v Speaker 6>going to send the citation down. But the dumpsters don't

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<v Speaker 6>get fixed or changed. And I guess there's no regulation

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<v Speaker 6>for the condition of dumpsters has to be in.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they should be. And look if for a dumpster

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<v Speaker 2>to get rusted or rotted out, it has to be

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<v Speaker 2>there for a while. It's like if if your car

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<v Speaker 2>is rusted out and your transmission falls out, obviously you

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<v Speaker 2>got to you got a problem there. But that's if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a dumpster and that dumpster has deteriorated so

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<v Speaker 2>that it is rusting and there's holes in the bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>they should be find I don't know what one of

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<v Speaker 2>those big new dumpsters cost. They probably cost. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand dollars or something. They're probably pretty expensive, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think they should hit him with a ticket for

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<v Speaker 2>you got to rust it out dumpster, say two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty dollars, So you want to leave it there,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll write another ticket next week two hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>They would spend one thousand dollars or whatever the going

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<v Speaker 2>rate is, quickly, quickly, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, maybe this is something the Globe could look into. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you another story the Globe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great story in the Globe. It's a great

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a normal it's a good follow up story.

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<v Speaker 2>Because what I see is I see dumpsters that have

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<v Speaker 2>just too much trash in them, and so people have

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<v Speaker 2>walked by, opened the dumpsters, thrown their trash in, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, the dumpster's overflowing. But I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>think about the looking at the bottom and seeing dumps,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, dumpster rusting away and rats going in there.

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<v Speaker 2>How long have you lived in Boston?

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<v Speaker 6>Mark?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Too long? Are you thinking about long enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you thinking about? Are you thinking about moving out?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no?

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<v Speaker 6>Well I haven't found a better place to go to, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll tell you Boston has a lot of pluses,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's some there's some negatives. I lived in U

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston for about ten years. Well, I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in Hyde Park and then you know, as I got older,

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in downtown Boston and it was great when

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<v Speaker 2>I was single, and then we moved out to the suburbs.

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<v Speaker 2>So I haven't been back in a while. But every

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<v Speaker 2>time i'm down at the city seems dirtier than I

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe it's just it's getting it's getting very crowded. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>well that's and I want to the proposing uh tower

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<v Speaker 9>taller buildings. But it's like how we can't handle the

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<v Speaker 9>number of people in cars and traffic we have now.

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<v Speaker 9>So I don't know what people are thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know that, and that's exacerbated by the by

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<v Speaker 2>the bike lades because it's it's tougher to drive in.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken To be honest with you, Mark, I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>calling before. Have you sure? Have you called me before?

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<v Speaker 2>Or and if you have, well, do me a favorite

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<v Speaker 2>call more often. I really need people. It was a

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you Mom, Thanks Mark, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon, say to you. Let me go to Diane in

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<v Speaker 2>bill Rica. Diane, what's the situation are you?

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<v Speaker 8>I see I called hi Diane.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the situation like up there in bill Rica?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, no, it's not in Jill Rica. What blows my

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<v Speaker 8>mind is thirteen years ago I basically had a cleaning

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<v Speaker 8>clients I cleaned for and they had steel wool stuffed

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<v Speaker 8>in like the walls and stuff, and I ain't never

421
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<v Speaker 8>sort or anything like that, and they told me it

422
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<v Speaker 8>was a rat problem. And that was thirteen years ago.

423
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<v Speaker 8>On Newberry Street.

424
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you walk down Newberry Street and everything looks beautiful

425
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<v Speaker 2>for the tourists walking down Newberry Street. But then if

426
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<v Speaker 2>you walk down the alleyway behind Newberry Street, it's an

427
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<v Speaker 2>entirely different world back there.

428
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<v Speaker 8>As I'm sure you've this was like over the stores,

429
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<v Speaker 8>like apartments, over the stores that you know, like you know,

430
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<v Speaker 8>it looks so clean and everything. But like I had

431
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<v Speaker 8>about four clients on the one block and they all

432
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<v Speaker 8>told me that it's just horrible. And that was thirteen

433
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<v Speaker 8>years ago. But I agree with you with the birth

434
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<v Speaker 8>control thing. I really think they should start with the

435
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<v Speaker 8>birth control and get a lot of big cats or something.

436
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<v Speaker 8>There's a guy that rents out his cats to people.

437
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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, I didn't up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, is that true?

438
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, like it was like Pennsylvania or something.

439
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<v Speaker 6>Okay, but he went.

440
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but he rents out his cats for a couple

441
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<v Speaker 8>of days and you know, and people love it.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Well. The problem is, I would think that there in

443
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<v Speaker 2>Boston might be kind of tough to deal with for

444
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<v Speaker 2>some for some of the form some of the cats.

445
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's probably more rats than cats. But it's

446
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be well worth it. Hopefully get some big get

447
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<v Speaker 2>some big cats, maybe some you know.

448
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<v Speaker 8>But then the worker. You know, I have seen mice,

449
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:19.160
<v Speaker 8>you know, like when they dig up you know, for

450
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<v Speaker 8>pipes or whatever, book and pipes. You know, never rats

451
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.920
<v Speaker 8>or anything you know out here, but you never.

452
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<v Speaker 2>Know, well you know they are. When you see this

453
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<v Speaker 2>article on the Globe tomorrow, I think you will realize

454
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:35.079
<v Speaker 2>the overpopulation is a big problem. Simple as that, simple

455
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<v Speaker 2>as that.

456
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

457
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<v Speaker 2>But are you off to another adventure pretty soon or no?

458
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

459
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<v Speaker 8>Sunday I leave from New York. I thought I was

460
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.759
<v Speaker 8>leaving the twenty fifth, but now I'm leaving from our Sunday.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Go for it and where what will what? We'll we'll

462
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Speaker 2>what in your business? Will take you to New York.

463
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<v Speaker 8>Well, they're not telling us the artists, but it's in

464
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<v Speaker 8>Soho and it's a pop up. So I have a

465
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<v Speaker 8>couple of ideas too. I possibly think could be making

466
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<v Speaker 8>a comeback, like justin Biebs.

467
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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, you know, keep us.

468
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<v Speaker 8>Staying with that girl, you know, Sisa in California, and

469
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<v Speaker 8>I don't know. I'm dying to know who it is.

470
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you'll be there and you'll find out.

471
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<v Speaker 8>Thanks, you'll see my pictures.

472
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<v Speaker 2>All right, Thanks that you talk soon. Let me get

473
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<v Speaker 2>Tim and Wilburn here before we go to break. Tim

474
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<v Speaker 2>want to get you in so you don't have to

475
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<v Speaker 2>wait through the break. How are you, buddy?

476
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<v Speaker 3>How good do I know about rats? In Boston? Tell us?

477
00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Tell us?

478
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right? Twenty five thirty years ago, I'm working

479
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 3>for this guy in Burlington. We had two dumb trucks

480
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 3>and a pickup. Now on Boylston Street, right this restaurant,

481
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Boylston, Boyleston, Newbury Street. I'm in the repointing

482
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 3>right brickwork, I see rat right, rat, holy mac. Well

483
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 3>they even like taking you as big as a house.

484
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:01.240
<v Speaker 3>They're walking by me, the two or three feet away

485
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<v Speaker 3>from me. I says, look at this. I told my mother,

486
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:06.720
<v Speaker 3>he goes, don't go in there. So the guy I'm

487
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.319
<v Speaker 3>working so right, I'm the only guy that will go

488
00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 3>to Boston and repoint the brick that deal with the rafts.

489
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<v Speaker 3>And they scared me.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Oh they look the nasty looking creatures. There's nothing cute

491
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.799
<v Speaker 2>about a raft Okay, nothing whatsoever. And you know that

492
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>they are they carry disease. That's they have the urban

493
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>disease carriers. And this is what the Globe story we'll

494
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:34.599
<v Speaker 2>explain tomorrow. And this disease caused the plague too, Yes,

495
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.559
<v Speaker 2>they did the Black plague and Pestilen said everything like

496
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.799
<v Speaker 2>that back in the thirteenth century. Yeah, fourteenth century. Yeah,

497
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is a problem and people better realize

498
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>that unless we get it under control, it's only going

499
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<v Speaker 2>to get worse.

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<v Speaker 3>And right, and they walk them by me like we

501
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.599
<v Speaker 3>the people that I need to smile, and they're eating

502
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:56.240
<v Speaker 3>they're not paying right or anything.

503
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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's true, that's the way they live. Their lives.

504
00:28:58.759 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt about that.

505
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:04.000
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, they Danny, I know about the rat You

506
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.519
<v Speaker 3>have the best program on the air from the beginning.

507
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<v Speaker 2>Well I appreciate that, Tim, I really do you be well?

508
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 2>And uh you get out there and stay safe and

509
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 2>avoid those.

510
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 3>Rafts, staying away from boils and street and the rats

511
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:18.119
<v Speaker 3>and the dumpsters.

512
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<v Speaker 2>Not a bad Well can you imagine this? What do

513
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>you think with that amount of rats around when next

514
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>time you go into one of those restaurants, a lot

515
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:30.119
<v Speaker 2>of people are going to say, you know, how can

516
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.799
<v Speaker 2>there be rats in this in this community? If these

517
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>people are serious about cleanliness and all that. I mean,

518
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>it's it's scary when you think about it, it really is.

519
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I just never know cliness is next to godliness. Those

520
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 3>places are on cleanly. They got rats all over the place.

521
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<v Speaker 2>Probably not too godly either when you think about it.

522
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<v Speaker 2>Begs Tim, talk to you good night. All right, take

523
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<v Speaker 2>a quick break here. I got Susan and came it's

524
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.839
<v Speaker 2>coming up and Rick and Merrimack. I got room for

525
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe one more or two more if you doubt quickly,

526
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>we will change topics and we're going to talk with

527
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>an interesting gentleman who have had on here before, and

528
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 2>he's looking at the Israeli Iranian war with a little

529
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>bit of a different perspective. And it's not a question

530
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:24.759
<v Speaker 2>of who's he rooting for, is who he feels has

531
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<v Speaker 2>the advantage and why, and he does it more statistically.

532
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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back if you'd like to call. Try right

533
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<v Speaker 2>now six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty and

534
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<v Speaker 2>I can try to get you in and I think

535
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<v Speaker 2>I will coming back on Night Side.

536
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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back we go. We got Susan and Cambridge. Susan,

538
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 2>this is an issue I think we're gonna agree on.

539
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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Susan.

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<v Speaker 10>You know I can't believe out of all the big

541
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.519
<v Speaker 10>news topics you've covered this week, that I'm calling in

542
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:57.240
<v Speaker 10>about rats.

543
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Well that's okay, and we got a big news drop

544
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:02.279
<v Speaker 2>and coming up next hour or two, so.

545
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<v Speaker 10>I'm interested to hear about that. I almost held off

546
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.519
<v Speaker 10>and calling, but in any event, rats are the bane

547
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:09.519
<v Speaker 10>of my existence.

548
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh you're the second You're the second caller from Cambridge.

549
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<v Speaker 2>So let's yeah.

550
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<v Speaker 10>I'm up in North Cambridge and Uh, first of all,

551
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:23.039
<v Speaker 10>I just wanted to say I actually came back recently

552
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 10>from visiting a friend in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and

553
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 10>just to clarify that it's I know, it feels like

554
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.839
<v Speaker 10>a distinction without a difference. But the thing that the

555
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:39.920
<v Speaker 10>disease that uh uh my wife got happens life. Yeah,

556
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.799
<v Speaker 10>it's specific to mice, not to rats. And they don't

557
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 10>really have a big rat population in a city. What

558
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 10>they do have is, I mean, field mice exists everywhere

559
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 10>like farms, if there's hey, if there's grain, if there's anything.

560
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 10>So there are a lot of mice because it is

561
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 10>a semi rural area out there, so there's definitely field

562
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 10>mice all over the place. And if they take up

563
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 10>residents this disease, it has to be you can't catch

564
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 10>it like out of doors. You have to catch it

565
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 10>in if they've been like in a barn or in

566
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:17.640
<v Speaker 10>a place where they've been urinating a lot and the

567
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.160
<v Speaker 10>fumes get bad, it's from it's from the fumes of

568
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:24.680
<v Speaker 10>their urine. So but yeah, it's it's mice. And and

569
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 10>you were actually correct that cats actually are not great

570
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.519
<v Speaker 10>for rats. Rats are a bit too big for them.

571
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:33.880
<v Speaker 10>They're great for mice. Yeah, you need a dog, you

572
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:35.400
<v Speaker 10>need to talk for rats.

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00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'll bet you there are certain type dogs

574
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<v Speaker 2>that would be particularly effective. That's the I never thought

575
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 2>you would say I was right on something, su As

576
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>they're only teasing you. Susan and I often do battle

577
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.599
<v Speaker 2>on issues here, but in this one we are. We're

578
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>joined at the hip on this one.

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00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 10>But the reason, the reason they're the bane of my

580
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 10>existence is because it's not enough to just have like

581
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 10>a good garbage can, because I have had rat Like

582
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<v Speaker 10>if you get the slatest little crack or something in

583
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 10>a can, they will go in there and make a

584
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 10>huge hole. They will just eat, you know, as soon

585
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.720
<v Speaker 10>as they get some little access point. I spent like

586
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 10>I think it was early winter, late fall last year,

587
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 10>I had a garbage can that had a hole in

588
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:27.880
<v Speaker 10>it wasn't that big. I like triple quadruple duct taped it,

589
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 10>and then like three days later I go out to

590
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 10>put the garbage out and I see this like neat

591
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 10>little pile of something gray like it's and it turned

592
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 10>out they completely eaten through all of the duct tape,

593
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 10>like everything I did. So they're very determined. And you

594
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.720
<v Speaker 10>know Steve's in Cambridge mentioned the black boxes well, those

595
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:57.519
<v Speaker 10>contain poison, and we I know you've had people on

596
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 10>your show before. That's not a good idea, yeah, because

597
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:03.559
<v Speaker 10>what it ends up doing is the rats eat it,

598
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.880
<v Speaker 10>and then the raptors, the birds that eat the that

599
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:10.280
<v Speaker 10>we want to eat, the rats eat the.

600
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<v Speaker 8>Poisoned rats, and then they die.

601
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<v Speaker 2>The U I heard, and I know that.

602
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<v Speaker 10>I'm with you on again. I'm with you on the

603
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<v Speaker 10>birth control. I think that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great. We're okay, Susan, I got two more. I'm

605
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<v Speaker 2>gonna try to sneak in. Always great to your voice.

606
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

607
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<v Speaker 8>I have a good weekend, you too.

608
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<v Speaker 2>Real quickly, are going to go to Rick and Merrimack,

609
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<v Speaker 2>and I also got Nate in Northeastern Rick in Merrimac,

610
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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Rick.

611
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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Boston. Terry might be the name of the dog, Yes, yes, maybe. Anyways,

613
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<v Speaker 5>they're not.

614
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.639
<v Speaker 2>A big dog, by the way, but they're tough.

615
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<v Speaker 5>That's right. Anyways, I mean I was a licensed plumber.

616
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<v Speaker 5>I don't have it at the moment, but anyways, we

617
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<v Speaker 5>have a spot on a code that I can't find

618
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.599
<v Speaker 5>at this moment, and it's written there and it says

619
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<v Speaker 5>a strainer meaning a four during or a shell with

620
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 5>straining nothing. No hole shall be bigger than a half

621
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<v Speaker 5>an inch diameter. Meaning what they're trying to tell you

622
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 5>was they actually distort themselves and will squeeze through so

623
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<v Speaker 5>your dumpsters and all that with their little cracks and

624
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 5>whatnot and nothing for them to get into. So I

625
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 5>just thought i'd say that that kind of creep out

626
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<v Speaker 5>your audience a bit more, because they do need to

627
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.639
<v Speaker 5>be creeped out, because there's a serious.

628
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you gotta be creeped out. So no, no,

629
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<v Speaker 2>they they get, they are able to get, and mice

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<v Speaker 2>are even worse in terms of getting through small little

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<v Speaker 2>little holes. But rats, Look, I would rather deal with

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<v Speaker 2>mice than I deal with rats. Okay, and it's got

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do. Yeah, I mean, I just think rats

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<v Speaker 2>are disease carriers. Mice are too, probably, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>the rats are much much more proficient disease carriers. Hey, Rick,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much, great to hear your voice. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for calling. We'll talk soon, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks, thank you for the time, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Next up, Nate in Northeastern Nate,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to wrap the hour for us. Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 11>Wonderful. Actually, I just wanted to, Uh. The collar previous

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<v Speaker 11>to me actually was talking about a lot of things

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<v Speaker 11>that I was going to say about the mice, which

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<v Speaker 11>I think is kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, you know what that means. Uh, that means,

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<v Speaker 2>that means great minds, they go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh, the Black Death was actually caused by gerbils. I

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<v Speaker 11>was taught when I was a kid it was rats,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, in school, I was taught that it was rats,

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<v Speaker 11>and that was the common theme. But actually when scientists

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<v Speaker 11>actually put their minds to it, they found out that,

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<v Speaker 11>in fact, it was gerbils.

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<v Speaker 6>Because it's not.

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<v Speaker 11>As you know, the actual stuff comes from you know,

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<v Speaker 11>the mice and what have you that attach themselves to

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<v Speaker 11>these different animals and that's what.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually spreads it.

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<v Speaker 11>But it was actually the spread. It spread through gerbils

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<v Speaker 11>and somewhat through field mice as well, because feel mice

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<v Speaker 11>spreed at law.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, you might be right historically, and I

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<v Speaker 2>will be. I'm happy to be called.

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<v Speaker 11>Just regarding the problem with rats, I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I get it, I get what you're saying, but

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you I didn't hear about Gerbils until

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<v Speaker 2>Don Zimmer I think called some some umpire or gerbil,

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<v Speaker 2>or Bill Lee called Zimmer a gerbil. I think, yeah, growing,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what it was. Bill Lee referred to

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<v Speaker 2>Don Zimmer as a Gerbil, and yeah, I had to

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<v Speaker 2>figure what. I'd never seen a gurbil before, so whatever.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he was published in the proceedings of the National

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<v Speaker 11>Academy of Sciences and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well in that case, okay, well we'll stand up in

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<v Speaker 2>salute on that one. Mate. Hey, thanks, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what's amazing made is the breath of my audience,

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<v Speaker 2>and people who know stuff in my audience, they're amazing you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you were now in that in that pantheon of callers.

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<v Speaker 2>Please call again, call more often. Okay, thanks, wonderful, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>thank okay, good night. Well we get back. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be talking with a friend of mine. He and

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to disagree a little bit on this issue,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to talk about the Israeli Iranian War.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest is a tatsu Akida, and he he is

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<v Speaker 2>a He writes for Substack. He's an investigative journalist and analyst,

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<v Speaker 2>and he believes that Israel may be in more in

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<v Speaker 2>for a bigger fight than they realize. I certainly will

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<v Speaker 2>ask them about potential US involvement as well. So we

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<v Speaker 2>got lots to talk about. And then we have the

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth hour coming up, and I'm not sure going to

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<v Speaker 2>come up with them that someone made a suggestion today

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<v Speaker 2>to Marita. We may take B. C. Carey's suggestion, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll explain that at eleven o'clock we're back at nightside

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<v Speaker 2>right after this