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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks.

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Speaker 2: Here, Shit queues Here.

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Speaker 1: Your source of information and analysis to help you win

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your fantasy hockey league.

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Speaker 3: Fork off hot a, step hit on, Stay lock.

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Speaker 2: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nunyo see.

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Speaker 3: Hockey Live back for real this time once again. Jesse

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Severe fan tracks, Victor Nunyoe Elite Prospects.

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Speaker 2: Victor, how you doing, Wow, Jesse, I'm doing great. It

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is awesome to be back together as you've been doing

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in the intros. We have been really busy. For those

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of you who don't know a peel the curtain back

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a little bit. I have been moving my family and

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took on a new job. Things have just been crazy,

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but good in a good way. We moved from Santa

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Cruz to Santa Rosa, So, Jesse, we traded the Cross

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for the Rose. I feel like that's a good upgrade.

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What do you think.

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Speaker 3: You're marching the stations of the Cross now you're on

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the Isn't wasn't the Dilla Rosa? The road? Never mind?

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I don't know, man, I don't know. Yeah, no, that's cool.

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You have moved. I have retired, Victor, I have theoretically retired.

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I have an Elon Musk related retirement that I just

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went through. And no political comments, no political comments ever.

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But I'm moving on to the next and all is good,

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All is good with your buddy Jesse Severe, But Victor

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Hockey never sleeps no matter what goes on with us.

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I have discovered something, Victor. It is it is not

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my best decision and it is not the NHL's best

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decision to have our fantasy hockey playoffs coincide with the

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NHL trade deadline. Can you agree with me on that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always a bit tricky that way tend. We

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tend to do the way we do our leagues. The

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playoffs happen or the trade deadline happens during our playoffs.

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But the alternative is just things get squished towards the

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end of the season and people are benching their players

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or crazy stuff happens. And not to mention, you often

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have sometimes players get traded across the border and they

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have visa issues. So I'm not sure that the alternative

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is better. It's always a bit disruptive. But if you

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had that going into the last week before your finals,

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we were trying to make the playoffs. It's also disruptive,

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so I don't know that there's a perfect time. I

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like the way we do it, even though it's a

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bit disruptive in the middle of our one of our

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playoff matchups, but which for us is like in one

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of my leagues, it's already the second round of the

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playoffs by the time this is coming around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for several years there the trade deadline at least

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was happening in February and that was much kinder. But

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the NHL man, they're just they're freaking crazy. Sometimes it's

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in March. Sometimes it's twenty twenty twenty one. Do I

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see this right? That it was in April? That was

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probably COVID related, But anyway, yeah, or Victor, what can

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I say? What can I say? We had a good

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time this week following our hockey we're playing playoffs. You

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and I are surviving in the league that we co manage.

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Are you still kicking in our common league where I've

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been out for so long that I've almost forgot the

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league existed?

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Speaker 2: Oh? The funck league?

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Speaker 3: You mean? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This is this the one where people complain and you

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extended the playoff matchup by a million years.

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Speaker 3: They did and I did, and because I had no

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skin in that game, and I just what whatever dies?

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Speaker 2: I got confused because the points are so high now

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you never even see this, So I'm like, are we

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still is this still a matchup happening? I'm not sure. Yes,

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I'm winning my matchup by one hundred and forty points,

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so I think I'm going to win. But I also

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still am not clear when it ends. So if we

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have another month or so, things may shift.

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Speaker 3: It ends the day that this comes out victors, so

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that will that will benefit you. But yeah, it was.

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It was such. It was some controversy this year because

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the way that the way that the Four Nations tournament

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broke down, there was a two day week. There was

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a weekend basically at the end of the Four Nations.

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It was just Saturday and Sunday. I don't think there

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was Friday games. Maybe there was Friday games. But there

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was some level of upset in one of our leagues

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that somehow a nine day matchup was not a two

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week matchup, and there was a lot of clamor to

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add another week to it. Again, I'm so far I

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did not make the playoffs. I'm still in my rebuilding

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phase in that league, and that's what y'all really want.

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But yeah, it looks like you're going to be pulling

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that one out in an upset. Technically, in an upset,

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you are the lower seeded team in your first round matchup, Victor.

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There are matchups, and there are people who want to

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talk about them. There are people who want to talk

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about their own fantasy hockey experiences, and they can do

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that in our Fantasy Hockey Life discord. It's a glorious,

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wonderful place to spend your time and talk your fantasy

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and to Victor. They can do it by email in

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this Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail dot com. That's probably, Honestly,

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I'm just going to start saying that's the way to

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do it. I don't tend to ge a whole lot

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of stuff on the social media, and I don't like

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checking the social media these days, So why don't you

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just emails fantasy Hockey liby gmail dot com. You give

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you a little link you hop in the discord, which

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is actually actually a cool fantasy hockey or. It is

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a cool social media platform because the only people in

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there are cool fantasy hockey fans. Dynasty fantasy hockey fans

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and behavior is good and it's just a cool group

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of people to be around. But Victor two, there are

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achievements to un lock in there, and there are other

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things you can do as part of this fantasy Hockey

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life extended universe, and those are in the Patreon. Tell

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people about that.

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Speaker 2: Last episode you heard from the Tidy Admiral and our

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and myself, and there should be excitement about this. This

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is a really fun league. We're getting into the playoffs,

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so now's a good time towards the end of the

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season to secure a spot for next year. There will

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be spots opening up. It will definitely be first come

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for serve in terms of some spots that might be

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opened might actually skip it here, which would be fun,

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and so there's options for that. So getting in on

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that league is super fun and there's a lot of

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activity even in the off season. We do dispersal drafts

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and things like that, so it's fun times. There's a

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patren Priority channel, there's roster doctors. I know some people

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reach out to me. My trade deadline is coming up.

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Can I get some little one on one advice? That's

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what that's for. So absolutely it's a little bit better.

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Then sometimes you throw it out there, who should I

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acquire or what should I get for this? And it's really, honestly,

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it's hard to say unless you have the full context

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of what's going on with your team in league. So

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that's what we try to do, some personalized attention. Not

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to mention the website that has a bunch of cool

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extra content with ranks and tiers and visualization, so check

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all that out at Patreon dot com slash Fantasy Hockey

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Life and our website is Fantasyhockeylife dot com.

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Speaker 3: That's right. We are not guys who will just throw

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off an opinion off the top of our heads and

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over simplified things. We want to know the full context

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because frankly, I know it's harder, but that's usually how

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you get the right answer. Victor. It's just you and

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me today, after this break, we're going to come back

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and we're going to do some X gamers. X gamers.

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Is that time on Fantasy Hockey Life when we look

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at some players who are on the up and coming,

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and today it's going to be prospects, and specifically prospects Victor,

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that you have been talking about a bit in the

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Elite Prospects is no longer EP ringside as I understand it.

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You go to Elite Prospects slash News and get premium

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content and those include Victor's articles. But these are some

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of the guys you've been researching heavily lately, and we

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wanted to share with the listeners some information about them.

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The first is Kevin Huh, and it's spelled h e.

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I bet you people are saying he because it's spelled

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like he. But let me tell you something. I know

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Chinese and this guy's from Beijing, and that's he's huhn tient.

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That is his friggin name. I'm gonna die in the cell, Victor.

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That his name is Kevin Huh. All right, you are

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you with me on this? Will you follow me in

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this insane direction, Victor, just because of our shared friendship?

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, mister Huh. He is last year's Winnipeg fourth

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round draft pick. He's got some size. He's a left winger.

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He's six foot, he's one hundred and eighty one pounds.

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He's not a little guy anyway, and his superpower appears

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to be wont which is what we describe as effort,

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wanting to make plays, having a lot of effort, and

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good makeup and hustle in those types of things. That's

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a good characteristic to have good makeup. He plays physical,

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he plays hard, according to the reports I'm reading, and

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again he was born in Beijing, so we got a

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real life Chinese hockey player, which is something that would

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be extremely cool. And by the way, Hong Tien means

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big sky. That's what it means, big sky. So he

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belongs in Western Canada somewhere. In his third year with

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the OHL's Niagara Ice Hogs. He is the captain and

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he has got himself a thirty one goal thirty seven

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assists for sixty eight point line in fifty four games. Victor,

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what is your take on mister huh hey good?

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Speaker 2: He good? Can I just say he? Because it hurts

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my throat a little bit?

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Speaker 3: Ahead, go ahead and go with he. I get it.

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Speaker 2: Do I have permission?

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Speaker 3: I'm pedantic, all right, I'm gonna be pedantic the one

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time I know in my heart I'm going to out

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pronounce the fantasy hockey universe and be more correct than them.

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I'm going for it because it makes up for every

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time that I goop it up. But you can do

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the heat because that's probably what everybody's saying.

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Speaker 2: This is your moment, and you're embracing it. I love it.

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He's good. Yeah. I think one of the biggest things

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you can say about Kevin he is his improvement this year.

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It was pretty dramatic. He's cooled off a little bit

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since the beginning of the season, but still coming in

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at just a little bit under a point per game

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during his draft season. I don't think you mentioned being

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or maybe you didn't mention. You did mention a fourth

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round pick, being such a late pick. It's it's a

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great rise for him, and so you love to see that.

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And so one of the biggest things is that people

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could grab him for free, and if for some reason

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he's still available in your league, go get him, because

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I seriously doubt he was drafted in many leagues, if

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at all, unless you're the deepest of the deep leagues.

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So he's great. He's got a little bit more to

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go to become a top asset, but you have to

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love the improvement. In the article, it talks about some

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of the specific things that he's done to really improve

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so much so that Niagara made him their captain this year,

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and so you love to see that. You love the

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wearing a letter draft plus one season. Everything's coming up

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roses so far for Kevin he and so you like

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to see that. And I think that he's pretty great

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and found money for most people.

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Speaker 3: Our buddy NHL ranking Mason Black put him up in

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a poll versus Felix Hunger saw him the man who

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I vaguely feel like he was on my team for

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the World Juniors World Juniors Tournament that we did. Maybe

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he's on yours. I don't know, Victor, it's probably yours

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of view was good mind if he was bad. He

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is a Chicago Wolf this year in the AHL, the

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on again, off again broken relationship AHL team affiliate of

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the Carolina Hurricanes. He's put up fourteen points in forty

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one games, has mister Ungersorum, and the people have voted

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and Ungersorm came out way ahead. Actually, he's got a

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little bit more name recognition, a lot more letters in

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his name, among other things, and he won sixty four

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to thirty six percent. Victor, Is that how you would

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rank these two?

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Speaker 2: I think I would when you look at Ungersorum his

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production in the Ahl looks a little bit disappointing fifteen

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points in forty four games. But I think you also

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have to keep in mind that Chicago Wolf's teams is

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pretty dysfunctional, just with everything that's been going on with

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their relationship with the NHL team. They're one of these

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teams that wants to survive on their own, and so

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they are not necessarily giving all the best opportunities to

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some of the players. There are some that thriving. You

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have Bradley Nadou looking amazing, Scott Morrow's great, they got

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Ryan Szuki and Noel Gunler, Dominic Fenn Story, so there's

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some good players on here. But they also they're also

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a really young team, and so there's it's just a

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little bit challenging. So I think you can forgive some

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of that and not be too harsh on the fact

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that his production isn't higher. I think when you saw

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him at the World Juniors, you saw how good he

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was ten points in seven games. When he's at his

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own level, he's pretty dominant. Felix Hunger, soarm and I

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have to remember, also, we'll keep pointing this out until

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he's twenty five years old, but he was literally as

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young as you can possibly be for his draft class

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born on September fourteenth, which the cutoff is the fifteenth,

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so he literally one more day and he would have

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been a twenty twenty four draft pick, and that would

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have changed the calculus completely for him being a year older.

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So I love that. I love his progression. I think

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him playing against pros and doing what he's doing now

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and seeing what he happens when he competes against his

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own age level. I'm down with the Fuss Jason Jesse

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the Felix Hungerstorm. The fuss is where I'm at, although

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I still like he I like how he's also free

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for most people. But if I had to pick between

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these two, I'm taking Felix Hungerstorm.

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Speaker 3: Hm. I'm looking at the Fantasy Hockey Light player cards

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that you're about to talk about and wondering about that.

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But why don't do you tell us what kind of

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fantasy player is mister huck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great to have those visualizations, right. You can

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see exactly what's going on and what kind of peripheral

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stats that they have. You can see that Huh has

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pretty good hits and shots and not so much for

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the blocks. But overall his bash based on the Hickston

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shots is pretty good. Of course, that's Ohl numbers and

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Felix hunger Storm looks much worse. But he's also playing

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in a much more difficult league. He isn't, though, the

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biggest peripheral coverage guy, So if you want better priffs,

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you might lead in Kevin Huh. If you want the

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scoring upside, I would take Felix Hungerstorm. I think he's

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got a little bit more to give there, and that's

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what I like. I think Hu is gonna be more

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valuable on when he's the miners eligible, and once that expires,

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I think he might be a middle to average type

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of roster players. So that'd be what I would be

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worried about Jesse, that he's only super interesting while you

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flex him up and down from your miners.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that can be a cheat code in some leagues.

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But why of chell Us? What is the ultimate upside

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for sir Kevin.

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Speaker 2: He's probably a middle six player with upside to be

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lined to a lot of It's going to depend on

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how where he goes from here. We've noted the nice rise,

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although he's stagnated a little bit recently and he is

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also fairly young for his class. April thirtieth, he's still eighteen.

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He was seventeen pretty much all of last year. He'll

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be eighteen pretty much all of this year. So you

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give those guys a little bit more time too. So

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I still think there's time to pop off and really

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increase his stock a bit more. But I think realistically

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he's middle six, middle of the roster kind of guy,

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which you can see in my rate for him. I

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actually gave him a seven point point eight on the

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Fantasy Hockey Life player card. That means he has an

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eighteen percent chance of being a seven. So there is

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upside to be above average, but it's a pretty low

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percent of getting there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, moving on to our second player of the day,

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Victor Luca Cagnoni. We have talked about him recently, I

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believe on or you. I think you talked about him

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recently on the Tidy Takes. But Cagnoni defenseman with AHL

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San Jose, therefore with NHL San Jose. Someday, hopefully he's

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already with the AHL. At a fresh twenty years old,

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he's thrived his second year post draft. He was a

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mere fourth round pick of the Sharks. In twenty twenty three,

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but now ninety points and sixty five games in his

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third year as a Portland winter Hawk. Last year, then

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this year forty one points and fifty one games in

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the AHL. That is quite quite a move again for

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a defenseman a first year in the AHL forty one points,

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fifty one games, defenseman now five to nine. That makes

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the easy case why he was not more highly drafted.

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But Victor, that is that is data we have to weigh.

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I believe you were seeing some nice things about him

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on the tidy takes. What's your take on Cagnoni?

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Speaker 2: First of all, he might get an invite to play

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for Italy in the Olympics next year, because I heard

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they're going with anyone whose name vaguely sounds Italian as

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potentially getting an invitation.

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Speaker 3: Anybody who's ever had a cup of gelato is eligible

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for the Italian team.

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Speaker 2: Have you mean the pizza? You're playing for Italy? All right?

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Speaker 3: What's the matter you?

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Speaker 2: All right? Now? I think that they're literally tracking down

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anyone with the Italian heritage, which I'm not actually sure

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about Cognoni, but his name sure sounds pretty Italian that

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maybe there's something there. Anyways, he is definitely Canadian, although

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who knows, maybe he would break that to go play

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in Italy. Anyways, I think Luca Cognoni is the next

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Lane Hudson, not necessarily with the points upside, but I

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think in terms of a smaller defender that defies the

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odds returns major value. I think Cagnoni probably returns even

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more value, right because Hudson was famously a second rounder,

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end of the day, end of the round kind of guy,

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and we have Cognoni here much later in the fourth round,

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so most people were getting him for really cheap. Some

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people even paid a first round pick in fantasy for

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Lane Hudson, but that wasn't certainly very common for Cognoni,

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so the return on investment is probably going to be

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pretty pretty high. And so I think in that way

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he's pretty similar and I think people should be pretty

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excited about him.

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Speaker 3: The NHL ranking, Mason Black chose a Montreal defenseman, but

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not the one you mentioned. He chose Logan Mayu as

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the competition for Luca Kegnoni out there on the internet.

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Mayu with forty six points in twenty six points in

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fifty four games and four points in seven NHL games.

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With the haves so far this year, and Cogno won

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handily sixty eight to thirty two percent. Victor isn't a

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popularity contest which Logan Mayu by definition is going to lose.

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Or is Kegnoni really that much better than Logan Mayu.

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Speaker 2: I wondered if people were actually voting considering external to

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hockey reasons. I'm not sure, not going to comment on that,

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but I did think that was interesting how high Kegnoni won,

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how much he won by sixty percent. I'm definitely taking

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Kegnony last season. I think it might have been close

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based on the proximity of the NHL to Mayu, and

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that's definitely one reason to be one reason, one more

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reason to be excited about him last year because Mayo

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did have a really great HL season last year. He's

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still looking pretty good in the HL this season. But

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he got his seven game tryout, he looked okay. He

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definitely struggled defensively. His expected goals against for sixty was

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just awful in those seven games. So defensively he still

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has a lot to work on. He struggled to defend,

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and so that's gonna be the concern always with Mayu.

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Even though he's not a small guy. He struggles with

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some of the decision making, with some of the defensive

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game Cagnone. It's been really impressive to watch him. You know,

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he especially when he's going against bigger forwards, he finds

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ways to create leverage to exit corners with possession. You know,

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he doesn't win all the battles, but he wins enough

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to be competitive, and I think that's all you could

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really ask for, to not lose every battle when you

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go into the corner, or go against the boards, or

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go against bigger, stronger guys, and so that's pretty exciting.

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I think that his time. Cognoni's time hasn't come yet

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in the NHL, but when he does, I think he's

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gonna knock it out of the water. Just like he

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does it has done at every level. He walked on

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to the WHL and basically became a star within a

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couple of years, and then proved that he was one

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of the most valuable defensemen last year and then this season.

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The numbers he's putting up in the AHL against bigger, stronger,

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tougher competition or just really impressive, and so you love

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to see that his course, he actually isn't that good

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in the HL. But I think part of that is

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related to the team around him as well, not just him.

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I think he's doing fine at driving play and I

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think he will and I think he's good enough and

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the offense is there, so if the Sharks continue to

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be patient with him, I think that he's going to

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be He's going to be great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked a little bit about comparing him to

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Lane Hudson maybe in terms of overall production, But what

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kind of fantasy player is Luca Cagnoni going to sort

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out to be.

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Speaker 2: I think Layne Hudson light is really what you can

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hope for. Maybe seventy to eighty percent of what you're

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seeing from Hudson, I think is probably reasonable. Assuming the

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Sharks don't go acquire another for sure power play quarterback

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or draft Matthew Shaffer and put him in the NHL

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right away. I don't think either of those things are happening.

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I think Cagnoni can absolutely be a strong get the opportunity,

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and once he gets that opportunity, I think he'll have

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a hard time giving it up. And even if they

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do draft Shaffer, which seems like a pretty likely possibility

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at this point, I still don't really think that Matthew

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Schaeffer is the best power play quarterback. I think he's

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your stud all situations defenseman who could run a power play.

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So I think they'd be better off bringing him along

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slowly and then giving him all the defensive units and

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minutes and let someone like Kegnoni or maybe someone else

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run the power play. So we'll see if that happens.

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I definitely think he can impress, just like Hudson has done,

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and played in all situations or more situations than people

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gave Hudson credit for at the beginning, and he's continuing

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to turn heads. I think I saw that he had

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more he got to fifty points or yeah, fifty points

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faster than who was it, Chelios or somebody. I can't

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remember who I saw in that graphic. But he's turning

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heads up there in Montreal, and it's pretty impressive to see.

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Speaker 3: And what's the ultimate upside of this player.

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Speaker 2: I definitely think Luca Kegnoni is going to be someone

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you want in fantasy. He's going to be one of

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those power play quarterbacks that should get a lot of points.

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Isn't necessarily going to have all the peripheral coverage, and

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in the AHL right now, he's shooting at his seventieth

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percentile and he doesn't really hit her block very much

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at all, So his bash is going to be low.

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But he's going to be one of those guys that

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can get you power play assists at least and maybe

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some goals. And I think he can be like a

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fifty to sixty point guy in his prime. Maybe not

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right away, but that's the upside. I think he's going

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to be He's going to be valuable. So I would

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definitely want to acquire him. And actually, in a couple

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of leagues that I've been looking at doing some trading,

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he's definitely someone where taking him off the table. I

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do not want to trade him, and or I want

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to acquire him. And actually Ryan and I co manage

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a league and people were rebuilding that league, and people

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are asking about him, and the answer is no, unless

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you blow our socks off.

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Speaker 3: One never wants one socks blown off. That's just a

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recipe for cold feet. Next, we've got Nikita or Tomato

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of a Russian prospect, the pride of nishnik Kompsk, Russia. Victor.

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This I sometimes go down the rabbit hole where these

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guys actually come from. And just imagine Nishk Komsk, which

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is like the latitude of Moscow, but way the heck

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out eats like farther from Moscow than Moscow is from Europe.

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And who's from there? Nile Yakapov was from there, mikhal

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k Sergachev is from there. So we had two first rounders,

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but Tomanov is the third highest drafted Nishkkomsk Komski or whatever.

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He is a five to eleven winger and a second

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round selection, a reputation for motor and skill. You have

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to love a nineteen year old with twenty one goals

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sixteen assists for thirty seven points in fifty six games

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in the KHL the Torpedo nishnin Novgrade, which makes me

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start to wonder, is it becoming normal for teenagers now

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to actually have good lines? Seems like we've been talking

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a lot about about a lot of them this season

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putting up good scoring lines in the KHL, which just

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did not use to be a thing, but it seems

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00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:06,440
like we've done it several times this year. But anyway,

475
00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:10,799
I digress. That's what I do. Are Tomanov Victor nikid

476
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,160
Ar Tomanov, What do you think of him?

477
00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:15,079
Speaker 2: I think I know a lot more about where he's

478
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:18,759
from now thanks to you. So I appreciate that you.

479
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: Have a one to three chance of knowing how the

480
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,160
town is pronounced after my exposition.

481
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: Although I feel like I heard it three different ways,

482
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,039
so maybe not.

483
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 3: That's what makes it a one in three, Victor, You're

484
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,519
a Hall.

485
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: Of Famer if you do that in baseball. In the article,

486
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,839
the Russian scout I mentioned compares him to Kurl Caprisov,

487
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,880
which obviously would be incredible. I see a world where

488
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,680
that can happen. He's an undersized, super creative, super crafty

489
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:49,799
solves problems in a lot of unique ways. But that's

490
00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:54,359
also the absolute ceiling right. More likely, he's more of

491
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,599
a middle six complimentary type scoring winger who you know,

492
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,960
could be in that fifty to sixty point range. It

493
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,920
depends on how well it all translates. Of course, you

494
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,960
love to see the progression though still only he's nineteen

495
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,279
and scoring at a pretty decent rate in the KHL.

496
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,920
Thirty seven and fifty six is pretty good for torpedo,

497
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,920
so you love to see that. I think that teenager

498
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,119
production is always super important to me, and so that's

499
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,559
something I like. That's why his pnhili is a little

500
00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:27,000
bit higher, and I love to see that. I think

501
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:30,519
that he's someone that I'm trying to get. That's basically

502
00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:31,920
the bottom line with our Tomanov.

503
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,079
Speaker 3: Tremendous and what kind of a fantasy profile. Oh wait no, sorry,

504
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,359
the NHL ranking Mason Black he put out the poll

505
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,880
our Tomanov put up against moves like Jaeger Furcus, the

506
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,240
cult favorite little tiny winger from the Seattle crack in

507
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:55,200
Yagur Furcus, and our Tomanov defeats him soundly, sixty five

508
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,519
to thirty five percent in the vote, A couple of

509
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,680
second round picks in in different years here recently. Is

510
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,119
that how you would rank these two at the viral Furcus,

511
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,160
the lovable Furcus trounced by the Russian here. What do

512
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,480
you think?

513
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's appropriate not to

514
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:16,839
say anything bad about Fercus. I think he's actually doing

515
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,559
quite well in his first full season in Kachella Valley,

516
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,480
just right exactly at a half point or actually just

517
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,599
under a half point per game. As we're recording this,

518
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,200
I can math, I promise and so he's that's pretty good.

519
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:31,119
But it's a tough league. People might see that as

520
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,000
a big reduction, but no, I think it's pretty good.

521
00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:35,440
He's learning how to play. He's a smaller guy, so

522
00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:38,000
he's working on that. He's working at not being pushed

523
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,119
around as much getting to the middle. There's positive signs there.

524
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,640
But what our Tamanov is already doing in a more

525
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,640
difficult league at a younger age, I think you have

526
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,759
to be more excited about that. So I would definitely

527
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:48,839
take our Tamanov here.

528
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So what kind of a fantasy player

529
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:56,200
are we going to see our Tomanov turn out to be.

530
00:26:57,319 --> 00:26:59,759
Speaker 2: He's definitely got a pretty high upside. I have him

531
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:01,720
as a seven point four or five, so forty five

532
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,599
percent chance of being a seven out of ten on

533
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,519
your roster, meaning just pretty solidly above average in that

534
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:11,119
top third of your roster. And he does tend to

535
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,559
shoot a fair amount seventy percentile. It's hits and blocks

536
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:16,519
are a little bit lower, but overall his bash should

537
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:20,839
be a little worse than average. He's definitely more of

538
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,039
a points only kind of guy, or points heavy kind

539
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:26,640
of league is better for him. I have a feeling

540
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,720
though with more time on ice he might increase some

541
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:30,559
of those a little bit more. His tumb of ice

542
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:34,519
has been lower right now, and so that's I think

543
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,640
a scoring winger who can get sixty five to seventy

544
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,160
five is certainly realistic for the upside. I think realistically

545
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,640
he might settle into more of a fifty to sixty

546
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,039
point guy. But I still think that upside is a

547
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:49,119
little bit higher than Furcus is. Going back to the

548
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,240
previous comp.

549
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and think what's the ultimate upside of Nikita or Tomenoff.

550
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: Realistically, I don't think he hits capriceoff highs. I think

551
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:08,319
he's in not superstar level, but strong fantasy producer, someone

552
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:12,000
that probably will get drafted in redraft leagues in a

553
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,720
few leagues in a few years, and someone that is

554
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:17,839
probably going to return value on beyond his just being

555
00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:20,720
minors eligible. Flexing up and down, that's my prediction at

556
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,119
this point.

557
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:24,559
Speaker 3: Gonna take a break, come back, and we got three

558
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:32,559
more ex gambers to cover.

559
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: Christian a shack you an apologize wasn't really familiar with

560
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,839
your game, and you know.

561
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: Casual Victor Andrew Christall his last name is not just

562
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:53,440
a dated Champagne reference from nineties hip hop. He is

563
00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:58,359
instead a great player for the Washington Capital's prospect system.

564
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,599
A five to ten left winger scoring oodles and oodles

565
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,319
in the Western Hockey League. Sixty points thirty eight games

566
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:09,200
in Kelowna has become fifty six points in twenty two

567
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,920
games in Spokane. He moved the season and now he's

568
00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:17,319
broken it. He's ope, he's overpowered in Spokane. Canadians everywhere

569
00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:19,440
were nashing teeth when he was left off the Canadian

570
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,720
World Juniors team that didn't manage a ton of offense

571
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,720
without him. He fell to the second round in twenty

572
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,920
twenty three, where Washington took him. The questions have never

573
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,519
been on an offense, especially at the current levels where

574
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:34,599
he's playing in Canada. I know in your recent discussion

575
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:38,440
on Elite prospects you explore that question because obviously a

576
00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:40,720
smaller guy like this, is the defense going to be

577
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:43,440
enough to keep him on the ice to utilize that

578
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,000
offensive skill and can the offensive skill translate? What's your

579
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,559
overall take on Andrew Christal Victor.

580
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:53,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I think he's going to work. I

581
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:55,640
think it's going to work out. As the bottom line,

582
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,599
I think he's too smart. I think he can think

583
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:00,960
his way out of problems. The foot speed and sometimes

584
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:05,000
the off puck engagement continues to be not ideal for Kristal,

585
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:08,119
but he's just so crafty and smart that he can

586
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,400
make things work. We've seen examples of guys like this

587
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,559
Tyler Tafoli, who foot speed has never been great, but

588
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:16,599
he just figures out where to go to score goals.

589
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:20,079
Christaal is more of a playmaker, more development, got more

590
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:23,400
of a playmaker creator kind, and so he's not necessarily

591
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,480
going to need to get to those spaces, but he's

592
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:27,559
going to need to create space and draw attention to

593
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,559
him and open up lanes, and he can do all that.

594
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:32,720
Sometimes the pace can be a little much for him,

595
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,960
but I think that he's gonna he's gonna figure it

596
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,039
out and he's going to get there. So I'm high

597
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:37,759
on him.

598
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,519
Speaker 3: Spicy Mason Black the NHL Ranking poll, Andrew Krystal against Aanili,

599
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,960
You're off the points are not off the scale. This year,

600
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,960
he's got twenty five points in forty six games for

601
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:55,319
the KHL's Middler Magnetigorsk and of course Christal again has

602
00:30:55,359 --> 00:31:01,000
been breaking the WHL and somewhat surprise, Victor, my boy,

603
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:04,079
You're Off is on the losing side of this one

604
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:06,000
in one hundred and fifty six votes, which is one

605
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:10,880
of the heavier vote getters or heavier voted comparisons of

606
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,519
our episode here, Christaul sixty eight to thirty two percent

607
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,200
over eurof Is that how you see it?

608
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,839
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's quite that clear for me.

609
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,000
I do think that You're Off has a lot of excitement.

610
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:27,880
Last year I wrote about him too, and You're Off

611
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:31,200
was doing what he did, leading the team in scoring

612
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,599
and helping them win the championship with very little time

613
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:39,000
on ice. He was only getting fifteen fifteen fourteen total

614
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,680
time on ice last year. This year it's pretty much

615
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,759
the same. He's got fifteen twenty eight. And part of it,

616
00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:46,039
I think is that he told them that he's leaving

617
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,640
and wants to come to North America, and so that

618
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,440
usually limits their time on ice, and so I think

619
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:54,799
that's probably part of it. And frankly, it's unrealistic to

620
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,160
expect that many points with just fifteen minutes of time

621
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,920
on ice. It's not enough. So the fact that his

622
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:01,839
point total went down, I don't think you should worry

623
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,960
too much about it. He was quite frankly a bit

624
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:07,079
over index with what he was able to do with

625
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:10,079
so little time on ice last year that I think

626
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:12,720
this is probably a little bit more realistic in terms

627
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:16,279
of what he should be doing. He is actually shooting

628
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:18,640
a little bit more. His course, he is more. His

629
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:21,440
expected goals are better, his net expected goals are better,

630
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,200
his hits are up. Everything he's doing is pretty much

631
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,039
better this year. It's just some of the assists aren't

632
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:29,839
as high, some of the points aren't as high as

633
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:31,720
they were last year, so that's really part of it.

634
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:34,400
The goals are roughly the same per game, but the

635
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,359
assists are, especially the secondary sists have gone down a

636
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,559
little bit. So your office still right. I probably would

637
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,359
still take Christal because I think the upside is higher.

638
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:46,559
But if you're looking at proximity to the NHL, then

639
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:48,240
maybe you think about you're off. But I think they're

640
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:51,000
actually pretty similar because I can't imagine Christal takes a

641
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,480
whole lot of time in the AHL. They want to

642
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,880
get him up there and maybe maybe he could be

643
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,480
the next Nick Baxtrom type.

644
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: Jesse Ooh, he's playing over on the wing though, right

645
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:03,839
is is he gonna play center.

646
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,039
Speaker 2: No, I just meant more of the assist master.

647
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:09,559
Speaker 3: The assist master of the playmaker type. All right, what

648
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,079
kind of fantasy than is Nick Bastrom? Is that what

649
00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:14,799
I'm hoping for here? What kind of fantasy player is

650
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,359
Andrew Kristal gonna be in the NHL?

651
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,839
Speaker 2: He's the kind of guy that has to be on

652
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,640
the power play. You don't put you don't play Andrew

653
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,839
Kristall if you're not gonna have him on the power play.

654
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,079
So he needs that, he needs to play with good players.

655
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:30,720
He could be the kind of guy that ends up

656
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,359
being a third line, top power play kind of guy.

657
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,960
That's probably the floor of him as an NHLer, because

658
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,759
otherwise you just don't even put him in the lineup.

659
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:41,480
The ceiling is probably not top line, but probably a

660
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,240
second line winger who's on the power play and gets

661
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,359
gets more favorable defensive assignments, easier defensive assignments, and does

662
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,519
there's a lot of scoring. That's really what you're hoping for.

663
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,119
I think that the upside points wise for him is

664
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,480
the sky's almost a limit. If everything goes well, if

665
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,839
he finds good chemistry with scores, then I think that

666
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,680
and he can certainly be point per game. Plus I

667
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,039
think realistically he's probably more of a sixty to seventy

668
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:07,839
point guy. There's certainly upside for.

669
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:13,159
Speaker 3: More very good and yeah, what is that? The ultimate upside?

670
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,679
Is that what we're talking about there, Victor?

671
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: I think so. He definitely isn't someone that hits their

672
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,639
blocks either, So the bash is going to be a

673
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,519
little bit low. Although he shoots a lot. So the

674
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:25,239
if you're in a shots only or don't worry about

675
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,199
hits and blocks kind of league, than Kristall is great.

676
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,559
If you're really looking for more peripheral covers, then he's

677
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,880
not really going to do that. And if you're wondering

678
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,039
you're off, does that a little bit more so? He

679
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:38,880
hits and blocks closer to the fiftieth percentile fifty sixtieth percentile,

680
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,920
so that's a little bit better.

681
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: Next Victor, we've got Gabe perrou on the discussion here

682
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:49,800
the New York Rangers prospect. His season at Boston College

683
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,519
has not matched his excellent twenty twenty three to twenty

684
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,800
four season. He may have faded from thought in some ways.

685
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,159
I would say that that will be my argument. You

686
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:04,320
can correct me if I incorrect in the directional trajectory

687
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,599
of this fella. But Will Smith is getting established in

688
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:10,639
the NHL. Ryan Leonard thrives like crazy and is blowing

689
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,800
up as a prospect. But still gay Perrot was nails

690
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:18,400
two World Juniors in a row, identical three goals, seven

691
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,639
assists in ten point lines in seven games each time

692
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,440
in the two straight championships. Played a ton of minutes,

693
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,239
including twenty seven to forty five in a recent overtime

694
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,920
tie in College versus New Hampshire. Seems to be more

695
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,119
need in New York for a player of his offensive

696
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:38,119
talents than ever. As New York is a little more looking,

697
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,480
a little less established and crowded than it did a

698
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:43,920
couple of years ago, one wonders if this is a

699
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,719
player settling in or what to make of Gaye Perrot.

700
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,199
What is your take on this player?

701
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:52,119
Speaker 2: I think that as long as the New York Rangers

702
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,039
don't ruin him, he's going to be amazing. They have

703
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:57,480
had a habit of not, let's say, not getting the

704
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,719
best out of some of their prospects, and some of

705
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,199
their more recent prospects seem like they've thrived in spite

706
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,320
of their product, their coaching or development So I think

707
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,599
that gay Pro is amazing. I think that his type

708
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:13,639
of play, which is how smart and creative he is,

709
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:16,280
he can play one of one of the things you

710
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,320
look for is you go up levels. Is this the

711
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,079
pace of the game, the speed of the game, how

712
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:25,239
much players need to problem solve and figure things out

713
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,199
really quickly. That accelerates, and that is something that is

714
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,280
not going to be a problem for gay Pro. He

715
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,840
can see the ice really well. He can problem solve

716
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,360
with the best of them. His feet don't move as well,

717
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,239
but he knows how to put the puck where his

718
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,199
team can get it, and how to open up space

719
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,599
with passes and how to move to create those spaces.

720
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:51,280
So I think he's awesome, and it's interesting hearing some

721
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,519
people be a little skeptical on him. I'm definitely on

722
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:55,960
the side of I still think he's going to be

723
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,320
a star.

724
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,159
Speaker 3: Well, Mason Black, the NHL King, put him up to

725
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:04,119
pull against Eurik Coolidge. Eh, you're Coolidge who has been

726
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:06,360
sitting in one of my minor systems all years in

727
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,719
the four Sport league and just not cool enough for

728
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,239
me to promote most of the time in terms of

729
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,760
present production. But obviously the first round of from twenty

730
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,400
twenty two. Maybe on the come. Eventually the people have spoken.

731
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:21,599
Gay Perro is the choice seventy to thirty percent over

732
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:24,400
Eurik Coolidge. Is that where you are, Victor?

733
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: Oh definitely, I'm taking Gay Pro here every day of

734
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,239
the week. Coolik. It's interesting. I thought that he'd be

735
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,320
a better two way kind of center and help with

736
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,320
some of that play driving. He's really struggled defensively. Coach.

737
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,679
Things continue to be broken in Buffalo, so I don't

738
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,920
know how much you can blame that on him. It

739
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,280
seems every year we have hopes and dreams and they

740
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,159
just get crushed in Buffalo. I still think Kulick is

741
00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:49,880
a great player, but I definitely think he's going to

742
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,280
be more of a real life asset than a fantasy asset,

743
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,360
although his will and drive might just push some of

744
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,800
that to be higher than it should be in fantasy.

745
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,119
But yeah, he's cooking at just under a half point

746
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:05,320
per game. I think he has more to give for

747
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,920
that long term, but maybe not too much more, Maybe

748
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,920
like a fifty to sixty point guy, whereas Pro you're

749
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,719
talking like one hundred point upside. I think the point

750
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,440
upside with him is massive. I don't know that he

751
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,840
gets there right away, and it might take the right situation.

752
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,800
But you mentioned what's going on in New York, and yeah,

753
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,039
things are weird in New York, and it seems like

754
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:26,679
they might even be headed towards a bit of a

755
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,079
retool or something. I'm not sure they're still going to

756
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:30,960
want to be competitive. But the nice thing is that

757
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:32,920
pro is going to step in and be pretty much

758
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,000
an ah already at the end of this season. He

759
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,840
may need a little Ahl seasoning, but I think it's

760
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,440
gonna be fine when he fits like. There isn't really

761
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,400
anyone like him on that team, which can be good,

762
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,840
but he also needs to play with the best players

763
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,559
and so there isn't a ton of space there either,

764
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,159
so there might be some interesting gymnastics that have to

765
00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:52,119
be done to get him in, depending on how much

766
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:52,679
they like him.

767
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:56,639
Speaker 3: All right, Victor, and what kind of a fantasy player

768
00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:57,239
do you see here?

769
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: Definitely one that more of a points only a play.

770
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:03,559
He's the kind of player that might frustrate the heck

771
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:05,559
out of you if he's not doing anything, but he

772
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,960
also then has the ability to drop three or four

773
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:11,880
sists in a game. Is maybe not terribly unlike Robert Thomas,

774
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,159
although Thomas is the center. I don't think perro is

775
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:16,039
but the kind of guy that can give you some

776
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:18,079
cardio sessions or he can just give you a bunch

777
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:21,719
of points, and so he has a huge upside. The

778
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,320
points are big, but he definitely can be the kind

779
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,880
of guy that can give you goose eggs at times,

780
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,039
and that might be frustrating, so some people might want

781
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,239
more of a Perferle Floor kind of guy. That's cool. Actually,

782
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,480
if you look at the Fantasy Hockey Life player card,

783
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:35,400
you can see that his bash is up in the

784
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,639
eightieth percentile. He hits, blocks, shoots and blocks all pretty well.

785
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:41,639
And that's a good Perferle Floor kind of guy. That

786
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,360
is not gay pro. He's not going to give you

787
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,400
any of that, but he might give you a decent

788
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,239
amount of assists. And he's primarily going to be an

789
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:47,840
assist guy.

790
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 3: And how high does that upside go you said one

791
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:51,880
hundred points.

792
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: I think the upside is there for one hundred. Yeah,

793
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,119
he's got some significant point upside. I think it's possible

794
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:00,239
he gets there. Really depends on the team around him.

795
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,400
He Since he's an assist guy, it takes. Gotta have

796
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,119
finishers to make that happen, so depends on how long

797
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:08,559
Paneron plays, if they have other guys that can finish,

798
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,840
step into that role of Frinier whatever they need those guys.

799
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,400
He can really jive with some of those guys and

800
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,360
make some beautiful music, So it's possible for sure. That

801
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:20,920
point per game I think is also pretty attainable for pro.

802
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: Awesome. Last guy today Victor Casper Halton and a big

803
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:29,840
winger for the pretty good London Nights. He was a

804
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,400
twenty twenty three Sharks second rounder. We're talking about him

805
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,360
at having a very good world junior attorney for Finland

806
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,679
just a little while ago. Thirty two points in thirty

807
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:44,079
games this year in the OHL, but that kind of

808
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,599
belies the streak he's been on. He netted ten goals

809
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:50,360
in February. That's that is not a point per game

810
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,159
poins pace just to get that many goals in one month.

811
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,119
He's on a roll right now. He uses his size

812
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:59,280
and the profile suggests maybe some bash is to come.

813
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,000
What's your all take on Casper Halton and.

814
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can this guy hammer the puck? That's

815
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,800
basically what you need to know. He is going to

816
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,639
be an absolute terror for teams that are playing against

817
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:15,280
the Sharks when he gets there. He's the kind of

818
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,519
guy who's shot alone is going to dictate that he

819
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:21,840
makes the NHL. How much, how many points he gets,

820
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,000
and how much upside is there beyond that really depends

821
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,599
on the rest of this game, which I really think

822
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:30,079
is rounding out quite nicely after this during this past

823
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:32,599
year where he's been on a great role with Run

824
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:37,880
with London, and he's really doing diversifying his skill sets

825
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,440
a little bit more. We know he can stand in

826
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,400
the OV spot and just hammer pucks, but he also

827
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,400
can get to the inside. He's got soft hands and

828
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,519
tight He's become a better playmaker. I've saw some really

829
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:50,679
excellent passes threading the needle, opening up spaces. If he

830
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,280
can really improve that side of his game, we're talking

831
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,199
Miko Ronton and light. If he can get there, I

832
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,079
don't know that's really in the cards for him. I

833
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,000
think he's probably more of a thirty thirty thirty goal

834
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:05,920
maybe twenty to thirty assists, depending on how the team

835
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,800
around him goes. But I think that's there's a lot

836
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,320
of potential there, especially for where they got him in

837
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,079
the draft thirty sixth overall, so pretty early in the

838
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:17,119
second round. But I think that he's got pretty significant

839
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,039
upside and just because that one skill is so good

840
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,960
that he doesn't even necessarily have to do that much

841
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,519
else to become pretty valuable and have and be one

842
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:28,760
of the best guys at shooting the puck in the league.

843
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,199
Speaker 3: In the NHL, the NHL Rankking Mason Black put the

844
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,519
pull out of Casper Halton and against Grayson Sachin, a

845
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,679
Florida Panthers prospect who's once again been blowing it up

846
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,880
for the Edmonton Oil Kings up there in the Western

847
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,840
Hockey League and Casper Halton and by one vote fifty

848
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,840
point six to forty nine point four comes out ahead

849
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,320
of Grease and Sachin. Is that how you see it?

850
00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:59,639
Speaker 2: Except I don't think it's this close at all. I

851
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:02,800
don't know why people are voting so much Grace and Sachin.

852
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,960
Maybe it's some WHL versus OHL bias or something. I'm

853
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,880
not sure. He has looked good for the old Kings,

854
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,519
but he didn't look so great last year in the WHL.

855
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:14,519
After his you know, he was on that Seattle Thunderbirds

856
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:16,239
team a couple of years ago when he got drafted

857
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,360
playing a depth role and he looked really good doing

858
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,199
it and people are really excited. And then he was

859
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,400
barely over a point per game and his draft plus

860
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,199
one season that was weird. And so this season it's

861
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,880
a step forward we expected from him last season, and

862
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,000
so I don't know if there's that much to be

863
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:33,079
excited about. Maybe people are also just looking at the

864
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:36,960
pnhle which looks higher for Sachin. But I'm definitely taking

865
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,119
Holton in here. I think he has a lot more

866
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,079
reason to be excited about him with his shooting prowess

867
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:46,800
and how good the Sharks are looking. I think that

868
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,960
there's a role for him at least in the middle

869
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,440
six and possibly on that top power play just because

870
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,440
of what he does. And Sachin is more of a

871
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,400
jack of all trades kind of guy. He does a

872
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,519
lot of things really well. He doesn't do anything exceptional.

873
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:03,239
Maybe that can synergistically become better than the sum of

874
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,000
its parts. I'm not sure, but I definitely would take Halton,

875
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:07,039
And for me, it's not even close.

876
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:13,079
Speaker 3: Jesse, And how high is the upside for Halton Addicer, It.

877
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,119
Speaker 2: Really depends on the playmaking and how he's used. If

878
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:18,880
he's a third liner top power play or even third

879
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,159
liner second power play kind of guy, then he's probably

880
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:24,760
like a forty ish point guy forty to fifty. Maybe

881
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:28,320
if he really gets to the point where he's trusted

882
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,840
on that top power play and or improves his playmaking

883
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,719
and his defensive play, then he can get higher than that.

884
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,559
He's not the best defensive player, and he's slow and

885
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,719
not that good of a skater, and so all of

886
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,239
that might limit his utility at even strength, which would

887
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,760
limit his points upside. So I think he's realistically probably

888
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,000
like a sixty to seventy point guy at best, and

889
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:54,719
maybe more realistically forty to fifty depending, But he's definitely

890
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,480
a guy who can put the puck in the net

891
00:44:56,679 --> 00:44:59,480
at the highest level. His bash is also really good.

892
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:02,400
He hits a lot, he blocks a lot for a forward,

893
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,760
and shoots a ton, so his bash is rated as

894
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,400
a ten one hundred percent tile. So you love to

895
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,519
see that for Casper halton In and that preferle floor

896
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:12,960
also makes you a little bit more confident by the

897
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,119
way I have sauching at a four point seven zero,

898
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,599
so basically pretty likely to be below replacement level or

899
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:22,400
below average, not replacement below average on your roster, and

900
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:24,559
Halton in at six point thirty eight, so thirty eight

901
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:28,239
percent of being above average. And so that's how I

902
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,039
land on those guys.

903
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:32,199
Speaker 3: Jesse, love all the bash, Love all the bash, Victor.

904
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,400
I want you to know, by the way, unrelayed, completely

905
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,039
unrelated to this. I watched Ottawa Washington the other night

906
00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:40,920
and Brady could chuck and Tom Wilson fought, and I

907
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,519
had feelings, Victor, I had feelings anyway, that's neither inger there.

908
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: I think that too. It was weird.

909
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: Oh it was yeah. I didn't know what I didn't

910
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,840
know what to do with myself anyway, Victor. Any other

911
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,599
thoughts on these players before we get out of here.

912
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: No, except that, remember, if you're a Patreon of Fancy

913
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,440
Hoaco Life, you get access to the shown and so

914
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,639
you can see all these really cool graphics and everything

915
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:06,039
that we have, and that's at any tier. And if

916
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:09,000
you're an ultralifer, then you can access these player cards

917
00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:11,239
anytime you want on the website and so there's a

918
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,159
lot of good stuff in there. If you're wondering, hey,

919
00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:15,159
how much to these guys bash, how much they stood,

920
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:17,239
how much are they block? Do they take penalties? All

921
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,199
that stuff's available excellent. Will be right back to close

922
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,840
up the show.

923
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:33,840
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over at that credible site. Victor writes as well for

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Elite Prospects dot Com formerly p Ringside. Now it's Elite

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Prospects in the news feed, but you'll see all of

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Victor's great articles there. He's part of the fantasy team

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Cam Robinson, Mike Clifford, ever heard of him, Big time

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voices in that space. I do a solo show called

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Dynasty Sports Life. I talk many different Dynasty sports sometimes

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even with some crossover between them. This week you can

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look forward to a little bit more preview of NFL

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Draft prospects that we'll be watching. Get their call and

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name's called in Green Bay in not but six or

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seven weeks from now. Follow us on social media on

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Blue Sky, Jesse Severe All One Word or the One

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Victor with the one being the numeral one and the

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spaces being none. And you could also follow us on

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x if you're into that sort of thing. Fan hockey

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life as me. Victor Neuno twelve is Victor Rate and

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review on Apple, pod, Spotify, wherever else you get your podcast.

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We appreciate five stars and a few kind words to

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keep us cooking here. Thank you once again for listening.

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I hope your playoffs are going well and until next time,

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Cape living that fantasy hockey life.

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