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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks.

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Speaker 1: Your source of information and analysis to help you win

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Hockey Live back once again to talk fantasy hockey.

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Jesse Severe from Fan Tracks and Victor Nunyo in this

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Speaker 1: Weighing in it.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not important, Victor. How you doing today?

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Speaker 3: I was waiting to hear how much you're gonna gets

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that way. That would have been That would have been fun.

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I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I'm happy to not

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Speaker 2: How are you doing? Jesse? I would have no idea

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what your weight would be, Victor, so that would be

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uh in Frankly, it's just a dumb thing to try

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to guess, even if you think so. Yeah, let's get

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past that social awkwardness because we're going to be talking

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some cool hockey today about the Winnipeg Jets. We've got

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really a great interview coming up. I time traveled and

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Speaker 2: Tremendous. Be right back with our interview. We'd like to

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welcome to the show a guy who is behind the

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great website at legal curve dot com. Dave Manu. Ready

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to talk some Winnipeg Jets.

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Speaker 4: How you doing, Dave, I'm good, Jesse, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: Good? I love talking some Jets. It was a team,

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I would say, Winnipeg that entered the year with fairly

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modest expectations, at least in the public size, and ended

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up as tied in fourth and standing points in the NHL.

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Quite a year for them. Unsurprisingly, that had something to

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do with the league's stingiest defense one hundred ninety eight

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goals against nine to eighteen. Save percentage that was the

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second highest save percentage in the NHL was nine to

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thirteen and they had nine to eighteen, So that gives

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you a sense, and we'll get to the guy who

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might be behind that a little bit later in the show.

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But there were also certainly some flaws. The special teams

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units efficiency were both below average, the offense was middle

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of the pack and scoring goals dependent compared to the

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of course outstanding defense, and the Jets wrook streaky the

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end of the year, with an five to one stretch

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and then an eight oh and oh stretch, so both

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types of things near the end, and then a run

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in with the Abs in round one was too much.

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They fell four to one in Round one of the

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playoffs for the second straight year. Has to be galling

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that after that defensive year, they gave up five point

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six goals against per game in that five game series,

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more than double the regular season rate. But one series

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is a couple of games. What did Jets watchers make

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of last year and is the expectation they're going to

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be a big contender in the West again this year?

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Speaker 4: Dave just think it's interesting because last year, at this time,

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the big question mark was what's going to happen with

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Connor Hallibuck and Mark Schifley, because of course they hadn't

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signed their seven year extensions. And so Jets fans didn't

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know what to think about this team, whether it was

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going to be a rebuilding team, whether it was going

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to be a contending team, whether it would be a

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Speaker 1: Pack sort of group.

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Speaker 4: And they, of course didn't get that answer till sometime

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in October when those both those players signed their seven

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year extensions, and all was well in Jets Land, at

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least from a perspective of having your center and your

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top netminder locked up for a long term situation. But

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I think that it really was I remember at this

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time writing about this team, and we talk about it

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on the Illegal Krevockey Show. What were the Jets going

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to look like? Because again you didn't know, you didn't

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know how the defense would adjust, how would the second

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year of Rick Bonus and this team meld under his

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sort of guidance, And we saw, we saw what they

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were able to do on the back of Connor Hallibuck

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and Lawn Bersois, who of course won the jennings. Technically

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Laurence berswas and they won't be on there because of

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course he didn't play enough games, which is a silly

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rule if you ask me, but regardless, that is the rule.

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And so that was a significant thing. And also the defense,

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which largely was the same as the year before, but

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for whatever reason, they really they gelled well. They played

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under the system well and as a result, and also

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the forwards buying in, forwards buying into the idea of

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can we play defense and still produce offense. Now, as

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you said, Jesse, they didn't produce a ton of offense,

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and a lot of that was due to injury, right,

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Gabriel Vallardi getting injured in Game three, Kyle Connor sustaining

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his knee injury and eliminating himself for I can't remember

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exactly how much, but it was like six to eight

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weeks of injury for him, for a guy who's consistent

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Speaker 1: Season, a complete season, I should say.

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Speaker 4: So from that perspective, the offense wasn't there, but the

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team had a buy in and you saw it from

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them pretty much from the get go, and I think

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that was largely what propelled them forward. They bought into

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that defensive structure that Rick Bonus and Scott O'Neil tried

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to implement, and as you outlined, the special teams were

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not good and they've been progressively worse the year after

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year for the last couple of years now. The PK

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was at least decent two years ago, it was terrible

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last year, and the power play similarly wasn't particularly good.

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It was twenty third and twenty second the last couple

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of seasons. So of course Davis Payne brought in from

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the Ottawa Senators he's the power play coach, and of

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course Dean Chenow from the Leafs also with the Hurricanes,

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he'll be the PK coach. I think both those guys

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had Davis paying not as much success as the you know with,

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but Dean had a pretty good track record with the

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Leafs and the Hurricanes. Jets fans are hoping that and

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implementation of so maybe new structure will really change the

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special teams around.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to some of those guys. Mark Schifley first

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of all, the guy who signed that big contract. Despite

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missing eight games last year, he still led the Jets

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and scoring seventy two points and seventy four games. Doesn't

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take a ton of shots. That's not Schiffley's game, but

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his hit rate has actually crept up over recent years.

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That's something I take interest in. He gets almost a

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hit a game. His advanced stats, I hate to say it,

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they don't like his even strength defense. It's pretty rough.

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The evolving hockey, the hockey viz pretty rough on all

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Mark's even strength defense. It's the outlier on this team.

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But certainly this is a star for the team and

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a guy who the Jets are committed to long term.

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What do you make of that observation on the defense?

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Is that legit or is that a fluke of the stats?

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And is shiefully going to be a point per game

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force again in this coming season?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know what, It's interesting, Jesse, because Mark himself has

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been asked about stats and he doesn't Necessarily he's not

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the biggest fan of them, and perhaps it's because they

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don't reflect super well on his game overall. One of

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the things that we've talked about in one of the

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things that has been a focus for years is the

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fact that if he wants to be considered an upper

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echelon top center in the NHL, then his defensive game

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had to improve. Now, we saw it from in stretches

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last year. We did see bigger commitment to defense of

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hockey than we had seen from him in the past.

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But again, the line, especially when Kyle Connor's on it.

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They're not exactly a defensive, first defense first line, and

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they don't think that way. So from a production standpoint,

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I actually think he'll probably continue to produce. Would I

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can see him in the seventy five to eighty point

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range just because he gets the ice time, he gets.

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Speaker 1: The opportunity, he gets the first power play.

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Speaker 4: Minutes and especially and again when this is the big

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No real rocket science analysis here, but if guys can

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stay healthy, If Gabriel Verlardi he didn't stay healthy, it'll

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be interesting to see what he can do with Mark Shadley,

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because that's the way it's trending right now, based on

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some early comments from head coach Scott O'Neill is that

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it seems like you've got a Connor, Shifey Vollardi line.

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Speaker 1: To start the year for the win Big Jets.

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Speaker 4: Of course, we'll have to watch what training camp produces,

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but that would be my assessment right now for Mark Shafey.

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Speaker 2: And Kyle Connor. You referenced it earlier was his season

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was marred by missing about a month to a knee injury.

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Then after his return he only managed two points two

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goals that is in his first nine games back, so

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obviously at least the scoring, whether it was bluke or not,

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it seemed like it took him a little while to

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get back into looking like the Kyle Connor, who is

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an absolutely outstanding player where used to seeing. You take

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away the time he missed and that nine games he

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came back, and you've got that ninety ish point pace

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we're used to seeing from him. Connor doesn't hit or block.

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He shoots a ton, but he doesn't provide a lot

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of those perferle stets, like you said, maybe not as

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focused on doing the defensive things as he is leaning

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into the strength of his offense. He's definitely out there

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with Shifley most of the time when he's there, according

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to the stats that I'm looking at. Hopefully, if Kyle

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is healthy next year, do you think we could see

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like a ninety five point season as he cruises through

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his late prime here, Or you think that we've seen

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pete Kyle Connor already and just hope for another one

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of those types of seasons.

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Speaker 4: No, I actually don't think it's unreasonable to expect a

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ninety five to one hundred point season out of him,

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and that's not me looking at it with rose colored glasses.

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I've watched him since I was there, and I think

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it was Sunrise, Florida when the Jets drafted at him

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in twenty fifteen, and I.

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Speaker 1: Watched him they'll develop.

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Speaker 4: Actually watched a lot of his games playing for the

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University of Michigan with the Wolverines, and his shot was

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pretty lethal back then, and up with the Moose and

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up through the Jets. He just continues to produce and look,

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if he doesn't get injured, he's on a fifty goal pace,

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and we were talking sixty goals at one point earlier

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in the season because his shot really is that good. Again,

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I'm never going to speak the name Kyle Connor and

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team defense it pretty much in the same sentence. But

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I definitely think he can produce. And we'll see what

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kind of magic that trio can produce again, presuming that

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is what they're going to look like. But yeah, I honestly, Jesse,

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I gotta tell you, I think he's got fifty goals

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and fifty assists, because that's one of the things that's

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unheralded about Kyle Connor that people don't talk about he's

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very even Stephen in the regard that if you look

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at his career goals and assists, it's not a significant

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disparity between the two. And he produces. He's a very

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good passer, and he's got a nose for the net.

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For me, could I see a forty forty sure? Could

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I see a fifty forty five?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think I could as well. He really is pretty

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elite when it comes to scoring. We'll see if he

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can continue that. Until last year, I think I think

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it was hampered by the injury, and I think it

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maybe I don't want to say mentally. I'm not a psychiatrist.

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I'm not going to try and do an analysis, but

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you could just see wasn't necessarily when he came back,

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there was a bit of a I don't want to

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say hesitance, but it didn't seem to be the Kyle

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Connor that we were used to seeing. So now I

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think with a summer behind him and a full training

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and his knee feeling good, I think you're going to

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get back to what we saw of him throughout his career.

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Speaker 3: All right, the next guy we're going to talk about,

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Nick Eelers, the guy all fantasy managers agree deserves more

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total and power play time on ice, but for some

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reason his coaches do not agree. I'm not sure why

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that is other seasons another season in the sixties happened

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last season. He only has had two point paces over

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seventy and one of those was the twenty twenty twenty

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one season when he only played forty seven games, so

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he had an eighty point pace. And he's never scored

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more than sixty four actual points in the season due

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to games played, and his point power play points have

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been a career high of thirteen, so all of that

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is a little frustrating for us. I guess the question

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we're all wondering, Dave, is there any chance that Eelers

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has can break that actual ceiling of sixty four total

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points and maybe get into one of those seventy plus

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pay seasons again, Victor.

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Speaker 4: That is the multimillion dollar question with Nikola Eilers, and

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we're all wondering what is going to happen with him

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because there's been so much uncertainty surrounding him. Though folks

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will remember around these parts at least that when we

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were watching him in preseason, he missed the day of

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preseason and we were all kind of speculating wondering what

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that was about. And it turned out, as we found

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out in the exit meetings, that he had he suffered

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a neck injury and it never really healed.

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Speaker 1: So he was a little bit hampered by a neck

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injury throughout.

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Speaker 4: The course of last season, and that was the reason

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why he actually didn't play for Denmark at the World

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Championships this summer because he was looking to get that

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dealt with. Now we would have heard if he had surgery,

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so he obviously didn't need to have surgery on it,

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which is good news, and you hope that a summer

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off has allowed that to heal whatever whatever it took place,

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and now he's going to be back to full health

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now unfortunately for Nikolai Eilers, and the biggest question mark

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is usage, and as you touched on it, it's a

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frustrating topic for fantasy followers, touchy subject for Jets fans

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because they see a lot of the game breaking abilities

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of Nikolai Eelers and they wonder why not more And

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we've heard for years that from coaches like Paul Maurice

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and even Rick Bonus that maybe this is the minutes

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that he needs to play to have that level of success.

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Others would suggest that he could handle a bigger role,

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but right now it seems like the coaching staff is

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going to go with an eeler's and the mess to

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call Perfetti, And again, my qualifier is always going to

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be we have to wait to see what training camp brings.

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Betty of course doesn't have a deal yet, but maybe

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when this goes there he will I suspect not. It

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probably will drag on into training camp. But for Eelers,

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that line actually had quite a bit of success. Their

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advanced stats were good, and if you actually looked at

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like the Jets record with before they traded for Sean

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Monahan and acquired a second line center, they actually had

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I think it was so I'm going to look it

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up to make sure I'm right here because I want

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to say it wrong. Thirty wins, twelve losses, and five

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overtime er shootout losses. So the record was quite good

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with that trio as the second line, not a traditional

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second line by NHL standards, but they were doing all right,

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and other guys of course were contributing. But getting back

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to Eelers, we had twenty five goals thirty six assists

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in more limited minutes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to have.

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Speaker 4: A bigger role, and of course this will be up

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to Davis Payne to see what kind of role he

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gets on the power play, but it just doesn't seem

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like with the way the Jets have traditionally rolled, he'll

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get that power play one minutes, and I think without

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those power play one minutes, he may be in line

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for probably a little bit more productive of a season

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because again, provided that those guys have built up quite

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a bit of chemistry now together. So I wonder if

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you could expect maybe a seventy seventy five point season

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out of Nikola Ahler's And that's a guy who the

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Jets are going to be relying upon because, as you

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guys voutelined, you need more to produce a little bit more, and.

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Speaker 1: They didn't do that last year.

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Speaker 4: So he'll be a guy who's relied upon to help

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bring about a change in that regard.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Gablardi, and he is definitely one of the

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mysteries going into this year. He had pretty medium usage

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when he was in La probably safe to say, and

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then he jumped to Winnipeg last year and jumped to

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his two most common line mates being Shifly and Eelers,

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And like you said, it probably would have been Connor

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and Shaefully except he and Connor weren't healthy at the

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same time very much. But anyway, he unfortunately had the

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same issue that we've talked about for the history of

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the show. I swear I don't know how many times

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Victor and I have talked about for Gabe Vallardi and

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his injuries, it just goes back for years. He missed

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a few weeks in the fall with a knee injury.

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He missed March with an in large spleen. Apparently, my goodness,

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you can't exactly call a guy injury prone for having

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it in large splin'. That's just something that's going to happen.

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But it's still been rough. Except for that COVID shortened year,

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he has missed large chunks of every season, even going

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back to the juniors. He's had just he's gone through

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just a ton, this poor guy. It's tough to predict

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that he'll get healthier, but you referenced this already. He

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was on a sixty three point pace when he was

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out there this year for those games forty seven games

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that he played. What do you think is going to

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happen if he can get out there healthy and play

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with some of these top.

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Speaker 1: Players, Jesse.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because Jets fans were clamoring for Nikolai Eelers,

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Mark Scheifley and Gabriel Valardi because again going back to

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their advanced stats, they were pretty good as a trio.

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And of course it was interesting because we would talk

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to the coaching staff about it and they essentially said

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that they're almost like, we have muscle memory. We can

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go back to that line if we need to. And

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one of the things I think with I think Vallardi

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was good at reading Eelers because Eelers is unpredictable to

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get into. Back to Elers, whereas Kyle Connor very north south,

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you know what you're gonna get. Whereas obviously, as you

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guys have seen with Nikolai Eilers, he's spinning around, he's

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spinning around, he's spinning around, and eventually you got to

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cline him or he's if he's got the puck, he's

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going to dish it to you. And I just think

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like Gabriel Valardi was pretty good in terms of reading

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Elers which is not an easy task for some players.

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So I think his biggest task this year, some to

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what we saw with Sean Monahan last year, really was

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about staying healthy. And if Gabriel Valardi can stay healthy,

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we saw it with the Jets power play specifically, he

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was very impactful in front of the net, and when

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he wasn't there, the Jets power play wasn't nearly as dynamic.

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So when you have Vallardi and you have his hand,

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he's got really good adds, especially in tight When you

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have that, you get some pretty goals and there were

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some highlight goals and the Jets were producing a little

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bit more when he was able to be there in

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the power play. But again it becomes a function of

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he played forty seven games in an eighty two game season.

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You don't blame him, right the blanket falling on his

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falling on his knee basically, or on his leg three

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games into the season, and as you said, the enlarge splay,

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nobody can really.

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Speaker 1: Account for that. You hope, like we talk about with

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a lot of guys.

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Speaker 4: Who have dealt with injuries early in their career, that

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they get past it and they get over it and

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then maybe they can start to put together some healthy

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seasons if he can, which is a huge if because

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as you outline, there's a lot of injury history there,

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then he's going to be a significantly impactful player for

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the Winnig Jets because he's the top right winger on

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this team right now, all right, let's.

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Speaker 3: Move on to Cole Profetti, currently unsigned restricted free agent.

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As we're recording this, I imagine the Jets are, like

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many fantasy gms, not exactly sure what to do with

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Cole Proffetti. It was such an awesome junior player hasn't

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exactly translated to the NHL, although I do think he

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has taken some pretty significant steps, including his defensive game,

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which I think has come a long way. He was

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actually quite a bit above average in terms of even

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strength defense last year. That was some of the questions.

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I'm not sure what the other questions are, Dave, what

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do you think the Jets are going to do with

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Freddie contract wise? And also with his opportunity in the

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lineup this season.

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Speaker 4: Again, that's one of the burning issues between Eelers and Perfetti.

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Those are the two biggest issues right now this summer

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here in Winnipeg, we're hearing that the two sides are

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working towards something. We just spoke with Kevin shovel day

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Off after he just did the trade last week of

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Rutger mccorthy for Braden Yaeger, so we had a chance

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to talk with him a little bit and one of

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them one of the questions with him with respect the

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cole Profetti, and he just said that the two sides

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are working too. Are still having conversations with Kevin shovelday Off.

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It's his usual Chevy speak for having conversations and that

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he's never going to give you too much insight in

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that regard. But it does seem from a Jets perspective

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that there may be a bridge here, a couple two

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year deal, or we may see the long term deal.

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And again, I hate to sit on the fence here

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with you guys and not give you some sort of

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concrete answer, but it really is a question as to

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whether the organization has.

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Speaker 1: That level of faith they love the player. I don't

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think there's any question.

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Speaker 4: I know that there's some people talking about cole Profetti

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and not being the long term. I think the Jets

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when they drafted him back in the first round of

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twenty twenty that there was no question in their minds

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they had another similar player to Mark Scheifeley, of course,

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doesn't have the same size, which is why when there

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was question as to whether he'd play up the middle

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or on the wing, it seems like he's going to

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stay with the wing, and we weren't certain because again,

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I know, we want to talk about Perfetti, but we'll

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just talk about that second line center role, because that

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was going to Vollardi or Perfetti question for Scott O'Neil.

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And when Scot O'Neil was asked this recently, he just said,

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I really like Perfetti on that wing, and then he

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went and talked about Domestikov and Ethers, which is the

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reason why I'm speculating that it again based on pre

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training camp thoughts, he will be in that sort of

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situation because they like him on the wing. It's you know,

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you don't need you don't need to have the same

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speed and you don't need to have the same size,

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which are his two limitations in the NHL. But I

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will say Victor, he's got a phenomenal shot, he's got

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an absolute brain for hockey, and the guy can anticipate

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and he can hit guys in the perfect spot. So

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I think that there's a real possibility that they'll do

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something short just to see if he can stay healthy

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and what he can produce at the NHL level, Like

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you said, like nineteen goals, nineteen assists, he's he can score.

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Speaker 1: He went through a streak last year.

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Speaker 4: I think he went twenty three games without a goal,

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so he did have a chance to hit twenty but

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wasn't quite able to get there. And one of the

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things that I noticed with Profetti and again the benefit

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of covering him, and it was during the COVID year,

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so I'm not joking when I say this. I was

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literally the only person in Winnipeg who was watching the

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Moose AHL games when they were playing in the Canadian Division,

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because originally they began at the Canada Life which is

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in downtown Winnipeg, but then they moved it to the

478
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training facility, and in the training facility literally it was

479
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,279
like HL officials, teams and me. So I got a

480
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,039
chance to watch Cole Profetti up close. Because so definitely

481
00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:31,640
when you're watching in the press box in an NHL arena,

482
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,319
it's awesome, it's great. The view is fantastic, but then

483
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,319
when you get down a little bit lower in the

484
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:39,440
practice rank, he developed a different appreciation.

485
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: And one of the things with Cole that I noticed

486
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,720
was that everything was on.

487
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,279
Speaker 4: The periphery at the AHL level early because he was

488
00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:48,160
small and he was playing against men, when it's a

489
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,240
big jump from obviously from the OHL to the AHL.

490
00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:53,759
And then he started to get it and you could

491
00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:56,279
see him going to the middle and finding his spots.

492
00:22:56,319 --> 00:22:58,400
And again, I think we're starting to see that with

493
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,039
him in the NHL. Again, there's limitations in the sense

494
00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:04,640
that he's never going to be six foot five in bruising,

495
00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:07,559
but he's a smart player and I think he's going

496
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,680
to continue to produce, and I really do think that

497
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,960
you're going to see a big improvement I could see.

498
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,799
I don't want to again, I'm trying not to have

499
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,880
jets rose colored glasses here for you folks, just to

500
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,839
give you an honest assessment, but I really could see

501
00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:21,680
a twenty five to thirty goal season out of him

502
00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:23,240
given the right opportunity.

503
00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:27,559
Speaker 2: Nice we don't break down every one of these guys

504
00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:29,720
in detail, so I'm gonna throw a couple of these

505
00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:33,400
veterans hovering around thirty years old. I should just see

506
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,119
which one you think maybe will have the best season.

507
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,519
Vladislav Domestikov, Mason Appleton, Nino Nita Rider, all of them

508
00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:43,079
goes veteran presence, steady guys in the middle. Any of

509
00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:46,519
those three stick out as somebody you think will surprise

510
00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:48,400
people with the really big performances here.

511
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 4: Now, the best option is Vladimstokov because he's gonna be

512
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,240
He's most likely, based on what Scott O'Neil said, is

513
00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:59,880
your second line center, and the coaches absolutely love him,

514
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,119
and he's a responsible guy. Eleven goals, twenty six assist

515
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,839
last season. They're all about the same the three that

516
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,359
you just mentioned, Jesse. They're all thirty four to thirty

517
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,240
seven point guys last season with the Jets.

518
00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: So they're all fairly consistent.

519
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 4: Mason Appleton and of course Nino nit A Rider play

520
00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:17,319
on what we in Winnipeg called the third line, but

521
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,039
really from an ice time perspective, is essentially the Jets'

522
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:23,480
second line with centered by the captain Adam Lowry, so

523
00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:25,920
they do get a lot of opportunity, but generally they're

524
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,680
more defensively responsible and the expectation is more they'll put

525
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,640
a goal in here and there, but really their role

526
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,759
is to kill the first line of the opposition. So

527
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:39,960
from my perspective, if I was going to again go

528
00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:42,519
with the qualifier that the Jets could make a trade

529
00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:46,119
for a Sean Monahan literally next season at the trade deadline,

530
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,920
and it may it would change flat domestic Off's role

531
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,839
from second line center down to a fourth line center.

532
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,240
But if he's able to stay in that role, then

533
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:57,880
from an opportunity perspective, you got to think it's him

534
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,400
playing alongside right now Nikola Eelers and Colporvetti.

535
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: All right, so we wanted to ask you about Brad Lambert.

536
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,680
I have to admit I have been a skeptic of

537
00:25:07,759 --> 00:25:10,680
Lambert from his time at Finland to the WHL. I

538
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,079
was very honestly not convinced. But then this season he

539
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,680
had that monster Ahl season with the Manitoba Moose fifty

540
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,759
five points in sixty four games as a nineteen for

541
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,640
part of this two months and then twenty year old.

542
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,079
That's outstanding, and now I'm pretty excited about him. So, Dave,

543
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,440
what do you think we can expect from Lambert this season?

544
00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:32,240
Will he make the Jets, and if he does, what

545
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:33,839
do you think we can expect from him.

546
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: That's a good question, Victor.

547
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 4: And training camp will be interesting because there's going to

548
00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:40,640
be one of the things that Kevin Shovel day off

549
00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:42,839
spoke about what I'm going to say about a month

550
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,359
ago was opportunity for young players, and it was always start. Sorry, yeah,

551
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,839
it was about a month ago. It was during development camp,

552
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,839
so maybe a little bit more. And he essentially said,

553
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,920
if I'm a young player in this organization, I'm working

554
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:56,240
every day to make sure I'm in I'm ready to

555
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,680
go with training camp and I'm ready to shoot my shot.

556
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,759
Because in essentially reading through the Chevy speak, essentially was

557
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,599
that you're going to if you can elevate your game,

558
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,880
if you can seize a role, we're not going to

559
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,160
be adverse to giving it to you. And I'm sure

560
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,319
we'll talk about villa Haanola and we saw that with

561
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,759
him last year. Fortunately for him, in the final preseason

562
00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:18,319
game he suffered an injury, so that changed his trajectory

563
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:21,359
for twenty three twenty four. But Brad Lambert, you know what,

564
00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:24,519
I watched him in the fourteen games he played in

565
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:26,720
twenty two to twenty three with the Moose before being

566
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,519
assigned to Seattle. And what a good thing from a

567
00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:34,480
development perspective, because remember, he's a winger coming with that

568
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,640
first season here in North America with the Moose, they

569
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,640
sent him to Seattle.

570
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: Seattle made him a center.

571
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:44,799
Speaker 4: And I talked to Moose's general manager, Craig Heisinger when

572
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,759
we do a Moose end of season roundtable just breaking

573
00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:50,960
down the HL season here in Winnipeg, and one of

574
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,920
the things he said was they didn't necessarily see him

575
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,960
as a center until after Seattle put him in that position.

576
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,200
And I talked to Brad and he said he loves

577
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,480
playing up the middle. And then when I talked to

578
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,519
head coach Mark Morrison of the Manatoba Moose throughout the

579
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:04,799
course of the season, one of the things that he

580
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,920
stressed and one of the things he focused on because Victor,

581
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,559
it's easy to point out the points, and you're right,

582
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,440
his production was very good, and so much so actually

583
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,559
that he was rocketing up the Moose rookie totals and

584
00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:19,000
was right up there in top top five and goals

585
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:21,440
top five and assists top five points. So he was

586
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,599
producing it at levels that were real good for an

587
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,319
organization's been around for a long time. But what Mark

588
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,799
Morrison told me during the season, but also like I

589
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:31,559
said at our end of season medi availability, was that

590
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,799
his impressed He was most impressed with the defensive player

591
00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:37,720
Brad Lambert, and is getting it. And one of the

592
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:40,839
things with Lambert is shot is very good. His speed

593
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,880
is Nikolai eelers as a center, and he's developing a

594
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,079
head for the game. Now. My my speculation, based on

595
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,359
the way I watched the Jets organization.

596
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Operate, is if he hits a home run out of

597
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,960
the park.

598
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,599
Speaker 4: I don't know why I'm using a baseball analogy and

599
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:00,319
on a hockey show, but if he hits a home

600
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,839
run in training camp, then maybe he's in line to

601
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,519
be that second line center. Most likely, they'll put him

602
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,160
down into the miners again and he'll play start with

603
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,680
the Moose and you take the pressure off of them.

604
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,440
Like It's similar to what we saw with Kyle Connor

605
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,359
that first year played with the Jets. Wasn't having a

606
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,400
tremendous amount of success, sent him down to the Moose

607
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,279
and it really didn't have a lot of success initially,

608
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:21,960
and then he went on a tear towards the end

609
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,599
of the season, but that second seed. That next season,

610
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,519
he actually played the first five games with the Moose

611
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,319
and then got recalled and never looked back.

612
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: So I expect my expectation.

613
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,039
Speaker 4: Would be for Lambert again, unless he has an insane

614
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:38,160
training camp, that they let him continue to develop and

615
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:42,440
become an elite second line, elite center, maybe a second

616
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,240
line center eventually our first line center.

617
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:47,519
Speaker 1: Because it's such a such a it's such a significant.

618
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: Ask of a player to play up the middle at

619
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,799
the NHL level, So for Lambert, if you're going to

620
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:54,039
do that, and that's one of the things I think

621
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,000
the Jets organization made a mistake. I don't want to

622
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,640
go too historical for you guys, but with Jack Roslovic

623
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,960
that he was one of the most dominant centers in

624
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000
the AHL, and then for the last ten games of

625
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,640
in the AHL he went up to went from the

626
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,680
center to the wing, and then when he went up

627
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,880
to the NHL, he played on the wing, and I

628
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,119
think it disrupted him a little bit. I think if

629
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,400
they're going to keep Lambert as a center, then you

630
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,359
have to wait for opportunity to present itself.

631
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:16,799
Speaker 1: I e.

632
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,799
Speaker 4: If he a guy gets injured and you want to

633
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:20,920
give him a couple of games, then maybe you slide

634
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,440
him in that way, and then what you're doing is

635
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,839
you're giving him less pressure in terms of that expectation,

636
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440
that weight of expectation to produce as a second line

637
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,359
center in the NHL as opposed to a first line

638
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,440
center in the AHL.

639
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:36,079
Speaker 2: Let's move over to the blue line. Josh Morrissey, star

640
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,920
defenseman for this team. He didn't quite hit that point

641
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,079
per game pace that he did the prior year, which

642
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,279
was such a jump in his career, but sixty nine

643
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:47,440
points in eighty one games was just tremendous. He's locked

644
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,279
into a quite team friendly contract for four more years.

645
00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:52,960
If you ask me, led the team in expected goals

646
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,200
above replacement, he's you know he he gets two and

647
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,920
a half shots, a hit, a block twenty four minutes

648
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:01,599
BYCE time, and I is a pretty darn nice thing

649
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,559
to have on your team. What do you see in

650
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:06,599
Morrissey's game? And do you expect a third straight year

651
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,279
of this level of scoring breakout we've seen lately?

652
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: I see a player who was unleashed under Rick Bonis.

653
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: Rick Bonas essentially said to him, having coached against him

654
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,119
when he was with the Dallas Stars, and then of

655
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,799
course when he became his coach. He saw potential in

656
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,839
Josh Morrisey, untapped potential, and he essentially said, not just

657
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,559
to Josh Morrisey, wanted his entire defense.

658
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: To produce more because they weren't producing a ton.

659
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,559
Speaker 4: And one of the things we saw with Josh Morsey

660
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,759
was like the gloves were off and he was given

661
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,160
a real kind of this is your team. You're the anchor,

662
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,160
You're the guy who's going to run this defensive unit.

663
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,759
Speaker 1: And he's taken it and run with it.

664
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,079
Speaker 4: Really because he's been such an effective defender for the

665
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:49,720
Winnipeg Jets and added that offensive element, and so I'm

666
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:52,880
not surprised. Again, it's always funny how his life takes

667
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,440
time and we live in an instant gratification society where

668
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:58,839
the guy is in the minors for a season. I

669
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,400
remember with Morrissey, he was in the minors with the

670
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,200
Moose and I after being drafted in the first round

671
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,200
in twenty thirteen, and folks were calling him a bust

672
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:08,720
and I was like, guys, calm down, Like this is

673
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,279
the guy who's going to take some time to develop,

674
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:12,480
and boy, are they happy that he's not a bust now?

675
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:15,559
Speaker 1: But I don't see why.

676
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: He wouldn't be able to continue to produce because he's

677
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,880
going to get that opportunity. They don't really have an

678
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,160
effective and again, unless they change their power play configuration,

679
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:26,400
they don't have that booming slapshot. They don't have the

680
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,839
dust in Bufflin, even a Jacob Truba. So Josh Morrissey,

681
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,079
who's more of a finesse get the shot through, is

682
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,960
going to be that kind of anchor on the power

683
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,799
play at the top of the at the blue line.

684
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,759
And I think from that opportunity you'll sellet him continuing

685
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:43,759
to produce. And also he plays the most minute tim

686
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:46,519
and Dylan Demelo, so I can't see why he wouldn't

687
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,680
continue to sustain it because he has such a high

688
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:52,200
level of compete and also because Team Canada is not

689
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,240
that far away and he's got his eye on playing

690
00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:57,279
for Team Canada and the Olympics. So I think you'll

691
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:00,599
see continued production. Again, I don't want to put a

692
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,279
number on it.

693
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: But you're right.

694
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:04,279
Speaker 4: I would think maybe I could see him increasing back

695
00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:08,119
towards that eighty point seventy five point mark next season.

696
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:11,119
Speaker 2: Once again, a couple of guys who are big defensemen

697
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,839
on this team probably won't have quite the fantasy impact,

698
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:18,079
but are very significant to this team's hopes. Neil Pianc

699
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:21,160
Dylan Demelo. Throwing that attion together, which one of those

700
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,000
two you think we should look to having a better

701
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:24,720
year next year.

702
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,279
Speaker 4: Neil Pionk is the easy answer, because his season was

703
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:32,240
not good from an analytics perspective and Jets fans, it

704
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:35,759
seems like I would imagine for fan bases of every

705
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:38,759
team find a poster child. Some went to Pillary a

706
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:42,799
little bit, and Neil Pianc was that player. And unfortunately

707
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,319
for him, he's in a role where you're the second

708
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:48,319
pairing right side defenceman and there's a lot of expectation,

709
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:50,519
a lot of need for you to be able to

710
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:55,079
do your job, and oftentimes that on the PK or

711
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:57,759
whether it was just at five on five that side,

712
00:32:57,839 --> 00:33:01,599
that pairing often with Brendan dill And wasn't doing enough

713
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,920
to keep the Jets. And again, like I said, it

714
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000
hard to knock a guy because they had such a

715
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400
good regular season. So I think I'm probably thinking a

716
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little bit of the playoffs, where a lot of the

717
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guys failed, but really for Neil, for me, Dylan Demello

718
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,240
is just consistent. And now that he's got the four

719
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:19,440
year deal, the four year extension that he signed this

720
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:22,519
summer with Winnipeg, I'm not surprised because that's they were.

721
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:24,960
The two sides were flirting with that sort of being

722
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,319
an option, and you knew you heard from him at

723
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:28,640
the end of season medi availability.

724
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: He wanted to sit down roots.

725
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,519
Speaker 4: He just had his second child and so he really

726
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:36,799
wanted to make Winnipeg his home and he sees that opportunity. Obviously,

727
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:38,920
Brandon Dillon went and signed with the Devil, so he

728
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,279
went elsewhere. But from my perspective, the guy who needs

729
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:45,240
to have the bigger year is Neil Piank. Now you

730
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:48,559
would expect Dylan Demello because he's got the deal.

731
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a little bit more weight.

732
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,119
Speaker 4: On his shoulders, but he's a top pairing guy alongside

733
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,799
Josh Morsey. He's in the thoroughbred racing. He's the guy

734
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:58,119
who reads beside the throw the pony that rides beside

735
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,759
the thoroughbread to make it calm. That's Dylan demelo is.

736
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:03,599
He's just steady, he's even, and again, like I said,

737
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:05,640
he's still produced. He what three goals twenty eight assists

738
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,360
for thirty one points last season, and of course Pionk

739
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,400
had thirty three. Pianc though I think has the higher

740
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,239
weight of expectation in terms of turning his game around

741
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,679
to justify that contract, and.

742
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,039
Speaker 1: You alluded to it earlier.

743
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,119
Speaker 3: I am going to ask you about Villa Heinola because

744
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,320
I have someone who have been a fan and hoping

745
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,679
that he'd make it. And last year, as you alluded to,

746
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,400
I was really impressed with some of his preseason play

747
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,360
and then he got injured and it just seemed a

748
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:33,159
man come on, like he was trending in the right direction,

749
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,159
and it didn't happen for me. It was another season

750
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,880
back in the AHL. A couple of these seasons he

751
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,760
has gotten some NHL games, and this past season seemed

752
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,239
like a step in the wrong direction. Is he got

753
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,280
zero in NHL games, which is disappointing. But do you

754
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,360
think that he's never going to have a significant role

755
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,880
with the Winnipeg Jets.

756
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: Victory this is the year.

757
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,119
Speaker 4: They have no choice and you look, nobody predicts a

758
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,719
guy's gonna have a fractured ankle in the final preseason

759
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,519
game of In advance of the season, Rick Bonus himself

760
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:01,599
said he's made the team, which was going to make

761
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,880
the Jets have to make hard decision because of course

762
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,920
it meant that a guy like Nate Schmidt or Logan Stanley,

763
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,119
their twenty sixteen first rounder, was perhaps going to be

764
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:11,559
put on waivers. They were going to have to make

765
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:14,800
some sort of decision to keep Villianola. And the easy

766
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,880
decision would have been to send Villianola down because of

767
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,840
course he was waiver example last year, not so this year.

768
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:23,760
So this year you're going to see what he can

769
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,239
do at the NHL level. And last year was a

770
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,800
tough year because he didn't start skating I think till January.

771
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,760
The Moose, of course, were in that terrible losing streaks.

772
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,119
He joined them towards the end of that, but he

773
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,400
was behind. He was behind the eight ball, right everybody

774
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,639
else has been skating for four months and he's just

775
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,880
starting to get back into it. And it's really unfortunate

776
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,159
because I remember talking to him at the end of

777
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:48,480
twenty two to twenty three end of season media availability

778
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:50,360
for the Moose, and one of the things he talked

779
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,119
about was just how much trade he was going to

780
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,199
put into training and how much effort there was going

781
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,039
to be, and so there was so much disappointment for

782
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,440
him to go put all that effort and then to

783
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,920
sustain that injury. Went back to Finland, came back to

784
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,800
Winnipeg and he trained with the Rasmuskapari who's dealing with

785
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,719
an injury as well. But the one thing I'll say

786
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,440
is that he had a really good attitude and so

787
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,880
he was able to produce ten goals seventeen assists for

788
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,719
the Moose in the forty one games he played.

789
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: But you started to see the.

790
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 4: Villy Heanola of old emerge a little bit last towards

791
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,480
the end of the season, and like I said, it'll

792
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:27,239
they don't have an option this year because they're not

793
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,880
going to send him down. They're not going to lose

794
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,239
him on waivers, so they have to make room for him.

795
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,320
And they did that, of course by not resigning Brendan

796
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,199
Dillon because they had such a glut on the left side.

797
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,199
Speaker 1: So to me, right now there's a big.

798
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: Opportunity for someone, and I suspect we'll see a platoon

799
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,440
with Villy Haanola and Logan Stanley as the sixth seventh

800
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,719
defenseman on the left hand side, probably paired with Colin Miller,

801
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,679
who's been signed i think a two year deal after

802
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,400
they traded for him from the Devils this year, and

803
00:36:56,559 --> 00:36:59,239
he actually looked pretty good in his somewhat limited role

804
00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:59,880
with the Jets.

805
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:01,159
Speaker 1: So we'll see where it goes.

806
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:04,599
Speaker 4: But yeah, this is the opportunity, and I suspect he'll

807
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:07,320
take the disappointment he felt over this past year and

808
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,719
channel it into an opportunity because he knows this is

809
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,599
his chance to really make an impact, to seize a role,

810
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,079
which he did last year, but again to seize that

811
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:18,519
role and then make it his own. And we'll see

812
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:21,559
because he's not great unknown because well, he can make

813
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:23,679
a great first pass, which obviously is something that the

814
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,159
Jets need to be able to do to get out

815
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:27,760
to make for breakouts. And he's also pretty good effective

816
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,199
on the power play, so we'll see if he gets

817
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:32,800
some opportunity there as well, because he has again a good,

818
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,519
pretty good passer and a guy who's got a pretty

819
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:36,679
good head for the pretty good nose for the net

820
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:38,840
when he makes that pass or a shot.

821
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,599
Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm hoping for it. Let's move into the net. Now,

822
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,320
the Jets were ranked eleventh and expected goals against per sixty,

823
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,199
but actually conceded the fewest number one team in terms

824
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,559
of actual goals against. Why that was it was Connor Hellibuck.

825
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,159
No one had more goals save about expected than Connor

826
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,360
and in fact he had twelve more than Jacob Arkstrom,

827
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,599
who came in second. Just an incredible year. He played

828
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:05,480
sixty games last season, one of the last remaining true

829
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:08,320
volume starters. I would say, I guess the question, Dave

830
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,000
is do you think the plan is for Hellibec to

831
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,880
get another sixty games this season? Or will newcomer Kapo

832
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,599
Kakanen or potentially our Comray eat into those starts a bit?

833
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:18,280
What can we expect in the Jets net this season?

834
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,199
Speaker 4: I would say that you should hope that they that

835
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,760
he does based on what we've seen from the playoffs.

836
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,760
And I don't blame him solely for that, but I

837
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,440
think that there's just and I don't know how to

838
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,559
account for it, because when you look at guys Patrick waugh,

839
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,960
Arter's Herba, guys who played seventy eighty games, for God's sakes,

840
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:38,239
it was not a hardship. Now getting a guy to

841
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,960
play sixty sixty five seems like it's not even a possibility.

842
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,320
And of course there's so many more guys who platoon

843
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,760
and that's what we're seeing the NHL move towards. But

844
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:50,719
as you said, Victor, this is more. This is getting

845
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,039
back towards this idea of.

846
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: Are you going to play him that much?

847
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: Now?

848
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 4: Connor Hallibuck loves to play, and Wade Flaherty and him

849
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,840
have a plan and it'll be interesting to see who

850
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,280
ends up back he came up, I could. The organization

851
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,760
loves Eric Comery. He's beloved like Mark Schifley's grew or.

852
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,960
I think Mark Shaifley got ordained to marry him. They've

853
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,719
got He's very close with Josh Morrissey, so he's got

854
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,639
a lot of connections and the folks and the Moose

855
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:18,840
absolutely love him. So if he ends up in the minors,

856
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,480
that'll be he'll be a guy who's well received because

857
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,920
again there's that all that connectivity. They share him and

858
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,679
Connor Helibuc share the same agent, the same training routine,

859
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,480
so there's a lot of symbiosis between those two guys

860
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,440
and the Kacanan. Again, unfortunately for him, he was on

861
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,360
San Jose, which is not a good team if you

862
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,719
want to have good numbers. But whenever we saw him

863
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,239
in more actually, although ironically I will say whenever the

864
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,840
Jets in the play, he seemed to be on it

865
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,360
play on his head because I recall, I think once

866
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,599
or twice against the Jets he had fifty game fifty

867
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:50,639
saves in a game or something like that. But his

868
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,920
numbers were decent for New Jersey, and I think that

869
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,880
one of the mistakes that Jets realized they made forget

870
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,840
about the William Jennings and Lawren bressois not playing enough

871
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,039
games to earn it.

872
00:39:59,400 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: I just think it.

873
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: It's more a function of trying to find that balance.

874
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:05,360
And you look at the goaltenders who have won the

875
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,079
Stanley Cup traditionally, and a lot of times it's that

876
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,440
fifty guy plays fifty to fifty five games. You keep

877
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:16,039
him fresh. And I know that Connor Hallibuck says that

878
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:20,239
he could play more, but I think your optimum, especially again,

879
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,480
he's not old by any stretch of the imagination, but

880
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:24,400
I think that your optimum for him is to get

881
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,599
him into that fifty five range.

882
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:27,599
Speaker 1: Keep him around there.

883
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: Fifty three to fifty seven, I would say, take a

884
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,119
few games off, try and make sure that you're not

885
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,440
overworking him, over taxing him, because if you look at

886
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,559
the number of when you look at his total volume

887
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:41,480
of saves minutes, the guy since twenty fifteen sixteen, I

888
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,760
don't think there's anybody. I think, what's his name, Gibson

889
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,519
is close in certain regards, but other than Gibson, I

890
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:49,119
think it's like Hellibuk by a long shot, and Vasilevski.

891
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:50,840
I guess I should put him in that category two.

892
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,079
But the fact is that a lot of those guys

893
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:56,239
didn't face the same volume necessarily, and I think Hellibuk,

894
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,360
like I said, I think it'll be better for him

895
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,960
and the team if they can reduce workload a little bit.

896
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,280
And that again it'll be an incumbent on guys like

897
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:06,719
Kakanan or Comery, whomever is the backup, whoever wins that role,

898
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,000
to give him that.

899
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,559
Speaker 1: Relief and give the team the confidence.

900
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,679
Speaker 4: And again, when air Comriy was here a few years back,

901
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:16,320
the team actually was playing pretty well in front of him.

902
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,960
So we'll see if they can go back to that bowl.

903
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,239
But again it becomes a function of they have to

904
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,840
make a decision collectively, how many as will they try

905
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,679
and limit him to a few less games than sixty plus.

906
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:29,599
Speaker 2: This is tremendous stuff, Dave. Why don't you let people

907
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:31,920
know how they can keep up with your work throughout

908
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,199
the year.

909
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:35,559
Speaker 4: With the Winnipeg Jets, we do a Saturday show every

910
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:38,719
Saturday on our YouTube channel. It's the Illegal Curve Hockey

911
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,440
Show starting at nine o'clock goes to eleven. Usually it's

912
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:44,880
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913
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,079
usually cover a little bit of the Jets, whatever team

914
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:50,239
the Jets playing that day, We'll talk to players, coaches,

915
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,280
we'll talk to visiting media on that show. And then

916
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,280
of course, after every single Jets game, as soon as

917
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,440
the buzzer ends, you can join us on the Illegal

918
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,360
Curve postgame show and that is also on our YouTube channel,

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and that has all the latest Jets and Moose news.

921
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:08,280
We aggregate the news every morning, so anything related to

922
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,440
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923
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And then throughout the course of the day we do

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00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,920
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925
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926
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,480
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927
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:26,079
Speaker 2: Tremendous. Thank you so much for coming on today, Dave,

928
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,239
thanks for having.

929
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: Me, Thank you.

930
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:39,199
Speaker 1: Will. That's good fire past.

931
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, we gram Now it's your weekly goalie talk.

932
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:52,800
But Kat Silverman Cat's Instincts.

933
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: Time once again for Cat's Instincts. With Kat Silverman and

934
00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:59,440
Ngold mag talking Winnipeg Jet goalies, you might say they

935
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,159
don't need any prospects. They got Connor Hallibuck. Eventually, it's

936
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:05,199
not going to be a thing anymore. So let's look

937
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:06,559
at who they have in the pipeline.

938
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: It's leak.

939
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 3: Basically, we're going to talk about Thomas Milich. And in

940
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,559
case you were unaware, he's six foot zero, one hundred

941
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:18,400
and seventy six pounds maybe six foot zero, twenty twenty

942
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,800
three fifth round pick as an overager. And I was

943
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,920
curious about him because he had some decent time with

944
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:28,960
Seattle when they were a really good team, and then

945
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,760
he's gone to Manitoba to play in the AHL and

946
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,880
had some EHL time and some of his numbers look

947
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,280
a little unflattering, but I was looking up his expected

948
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,079
goal per goal conceded, and they've been pretty consistently good

949
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:41,440
to great over his past four seasons, so I just

950
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,119
found that kind of interesting. For Milich, he is obviously

951
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:48,159
an undersized goalie looking at his hockey prospecting, he has

952
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,199
increased it year by year, So that's always good to

953
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,920
see up to twenty three percent chance of being in

954
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,840
NHL or after his strong HL season this season thirty

955
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,519
three games for the Manitoba Moose, nine hundred save percentage,

956
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:01,920
two point seventy two GA and one shut out, So

957
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,480
not a whole lot of great comps, but a Manny

958
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,760
legacy comp in there is a decent one to start

959
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,119
out with. So, Kat, what do your inter thincts tell

960
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:11,480
us about Milich and the rest of the system, which

961
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:14,039
I'm not sure there's anyone else worth talking about.

962
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:20,679
Speaker 5: That's it's the system. I That being said, Thomas Milich

963
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:27,000
is a goaltender that I'm really rooting for and finding

964
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:30,480
it almost actively hard to be super objective about him

965
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:34,079
because I want nothing more than to say I told

966
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:37,760
you because he was I believe draft eligible starting in

967
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:44,320
twenty twenty one, and I had him on my list

968
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:49,480
of goaltenders that I thought were genuinely ones that should

969
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,239
have surpassed some guys who actually got drafted, and I

970
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,039
thought he wasn't quite my Dustin Wolf, but I thought

971
00:44:56,119 --> 00:45:02,599
he was a similar level of quality tender, just a

972
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,960
little less technical prowess at that point. And he didn't

973
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,440
get drafted at all, and I was pretty sure that

974
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,199
he wasn't going to get drafted, period, and I was

975
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,199
super nervous that I was going to have hyped up

976
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:20,119
this goaltender. I did some extensive scouting on him because

977
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:23,400
I liked his depths management for a smaller goaltender. I

978
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,679
thought he was really sharp with his rebounds. I thought

979
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:28,519
his tracking looked phenomenal. I said he did a great

980
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:31,840
job sealing the posts. And then I thought he was

981
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,360
going to just fade away. And then Winnipeg said, we'll

982
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,639
save your reputation, Catsine, and they drafted him. So I

983
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:41,320
hope he becomes a VESNA winner. I really don't know

984
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:47,039
what Winnipeg's doing because they're going to need someone, but

985
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,599
ideally i'd like it to be him. I do think

986
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:53,719
he needs a little bit more time, just because he

987
00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:57,480
I don't think has as long as a leash as

988
00:45:57,519 --> 00:45:59,559
some other goaltenders do, so I'd like to see him

989
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:02,679
really looks solid and confidence at the AHL level before

990
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,639
he makes a move to the NHL. I don't know

991
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,159
that's a team that needs to have one clear cut,

992
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,760
shining star prospect and they don't. Maybe it'll be him though.

993
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,320
I think he's a lot of fun to watch. I

994
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,199
think Winnipeg Jets fans would enjoy watching his games. So

995
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:21,079
watch the Manitoba Moose. But I don't think he's headed

996
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:23,559
to the NHL anytime soon, unfortunately.

997
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: Yep, that's that's a system, as you say, so don't

998
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,079
come to the Winnipeg Jets to draft a bunch of goalies,

999
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:35,280
but Militch might be an interesting one if you have

1000
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:38,039
him available. Thanks so much, CAF forgive us your instincts

1001
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:39,239
on the Winnipeg Jets.

1002
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:57,639
Speaker 2: Dig the dynasty dig Jets, Dynasty Diggers. That is the prospect,

1003
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,880
the system overall. Before the draft, Victor, you set it

1004
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,719
up as maybe a number nineteen, little middle, lower of

1005
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,880
the road. That's what kind of happens when you've been

1006
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,239
a successful team for a couple of years, and so

1007
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,320
we're gonna start out with our no brainer.

1008
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it starts with Braden Yeager. Definitely a reasonable no brainer.

1009
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,199
He is a twenty twenty three, fourteenth overall six ft

1010
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,679
zero hundred and seventy pound right shot d increased his

1011
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:27,320
point totals significantly with ninety five points and fifty seven

1012
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,599
games and another twenty seven and twenty playoff games for Moosejaw,

1013
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,159
who won the WHL went to the Memorial Cup. It

1014
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:36,880
was a pretty awesome season for him, and he's been

1015
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,239
the assistant captain there the last couple of years, really

1016
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,000
strong leader for the team. It's been pretty great for

1017
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,840
Yeager and you love to see it as definitely the

1018
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,960
top guy here and he should be in the WHL

1019
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:52,320
one more season. He's going to turn twenty, just after

1020
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:54,679
the cutoff to be in the AHL, so he might

1021
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,679
compete for a spot this season, but I feel like

1022
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,480
it's gonna be a little bit longer for him. He's

1023
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,000
not quite there yet, but pretty close. Looking at some

1024
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:08,800
of the tracking data for Mitch Brown, looking year over year,

1025
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,000
his defense has definitely been consistently one of the poorer aspects,

1026
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,639
but in his Draft minus one season he actually bumped

1027
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:17,760
that up to fifty eighth percentile. Aside from that, it's

1028
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,960
been basically in the thirties or this year was actually

1029
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,920
down at fifteenth percentile really quite low. Kind of interesting

1030
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,079
too that his offense trended down a little bit this

1031
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:30,519
past season, went from eighty seventh percentile to fiftieth percentile,

1032
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,719
and his transition game has been all over the place too,

1033
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,000
although that was really good this season. Surprising looking at

1034
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,639
some of these tracking numbers for someone who is such

1035
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:40,639
a high pick and on such a good team, it's

1036
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,559
really not as good as you would expect. A lot

1037
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:46,239
of the expected goals and assists are quite low, below average,

1038
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:50,159
as well as some of his defense and space creation,

1039
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:54,039
body position plays off puck awareness. These kinds of things

1040
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:56,400
you'd expect to be much much better for such a

1041
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,280
high end prospect for Bradenyeager, and it's really not. So

1042
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:03,719
that's super surprising to me. The tracking data for Mitch

1043
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,119
Brown looking not super favorable for Yeager, especially on such

1044
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,920
a powerhouse WHL team. Looking at his tracking data from

1045
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,400
the World Union Championship, where he did we had five

1046
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,400
points in five games for Canada, it looks a little

1047
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,800
bit better. His transition game looked pretty good, his defense

1048
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,199
continued to look not so good, and his offense was yeah,

1049
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,719
just a little bit better for the expected goals, his

1050
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,639
slow passes to sixty were really good and his shots

1051
00:49:28,639 --> 00:49:31,239
were decent, but overall his offense was a little bit

1052
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,039
subdued as well. So interesting looking at his FHL player card,

1053
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:37,639
we can see that Braden Yeager shoots a lot ninetieth

1054
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:40,760
percentile for shots. His hits and blocks though really low.

1055
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,159
He definitely seems like he'll be a points only kind

1056
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:47,559
of an option in the WHL. His goals and assists

1057
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:51,320
are top notch hundreds percentile for both, and other than that,

1058
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,760
it's basically just his shots. Looking at the play driving metrics,

1059
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,719
it's interesting because Mitch tracks all this manually, but if

1060
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,880
you look just the some of the transition game and

1061
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,320
some of the high danger plays, puck movement, all of

1062
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,400
that looks really good. The play driving looks poor, but

1063
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:12,639
some of the other underlying metrics look okay. For Braidenegger's

1064
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:15,119
that's surprising. But let's hear a little bit more. May

1065
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:18,280
even get some clarity from our FHL scout on Bradenyager.

1066
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: Our FHL scout is Chris, and this is what he

1067
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,840
says about Braiden Yeger. Average is skating is average, skilled,

1068
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:31,679
stop start skater average, and almost every other aspect Jegger's

1069
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,000
best skating tool is this quick acceleration. It's stopping passing

1070
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:39,199
and handling middle of the road. Often has a great

1071
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,679
first touch of the puck, put in himself in great

1072
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,400
shape to quickly fire his signature Jaeger bomb. He's much

1073
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,800
better facilitator when utilizing short passes or saucers to the

1074
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,760
slot from the circles behind the net. Can protect the

1075
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,079
puck well on his four hand side, especially by using

1076
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:57,559
his edges to lean on the defender while holding the

1077
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:01,559
puck at a distance. His passing suffers once he is

1078
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:05,280
at speed and the general lack of creativity often when

1079
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,840
passing and stick handling. Shooting is elite. The shot is

1080
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,920
outstanding and is his greatest talent. He can get a

1081
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,840
shot off very quickly and from nearly any body position.

1082
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:20,760
Jaeger shoots from passes incredibly well and attribute that Chris

1083
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,000
believe will carry over well to the NHL. Jaeger often

1084
00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:28,239
shoots into blocks or from inopportune angles for distance. Iq

1085
00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:32,480
exceptional positioning off the puck sets himself up to take

1086
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:35,920
shots often find him disappearing though only to pop into

1087
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,280
a scoring position the moment it's available. Takes greatly time

1088
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,639
to cuts toward the net can have poor decision making,

1089
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:46,440
though when stick handling at high speeds, noticeably uncomfortable from

1090
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,960
the left side of the ice, unless skating from behind

1091
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,519
the net with the puck to his forehand for checking

1092
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,280
is positive. Brayden has a very high motor, above average

1093
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,400
stick checking. His below average strength and physicality holds him

1094
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,800
back from being an excellent ford checker. Defense is above average,

1095
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:08,280
great passing, anticipation, interception skill in great stick checking, sound

1096
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,239
positioning most of the time, but also has brief moments

1097
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,079
of puck watching. He's going to need to become stronger

1098
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:16,519
and more consistent to be an effective two way player

1099
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:21,280
and the best asset Jaeger shot. It's an NHL ready release.

1100
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,519
The biggest concern that was the lack of physicality and

1101
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:28,480
average playmaking that makes Chris think he's probably a right

1102
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:33,239
wing in the NHL maybe line dependent in the NHL

1103
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,880
top tier outcome Tier two first second line center powerplay one.

1104
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:40,920
If he can add the physicality to his game and

1105
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,679
refine his playmaking, the path to being a seventy plus

1106
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:47,639
points scorer on the pen in Winnipeg is easy to imagine.

1107
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,400
A fiftieth percentile outcome would be a Tier three right

1108
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,400
winger powerplay one because his shot is NHL caliber, But

1109
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,880
if he doesn't get his game beyond what we currently see,

1110
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:01,360
he's going to be a low, high goal type of

1111
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,920
winger thirty goal thirty assist type during his prime. His

1112
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:11,559
stylistic comparable Travis Connectney with little Bash and in terms

1113
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:15,719
of what Chris saw Fercus Jager, Fercus was consistently dishing

1114
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,639
beautiful passes to Yeager for many of his goals scoring chances.

1115
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,199
Jager on Jeger violence. He could see Yeager being very

1116
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,880
linemate dependent, as he doesn't seem to be a play

1117
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,920
driver at this stage of his development. Yeager was seemingly

1118
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,840
a great teammate, which was great to see in a

1119
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,719
young player. Yeager won the COCHL Sportsman of the Year

1120
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,239
for this past season. Based on the games that Chris scouted.

1121
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,840
He one hundred percent understands why he was awarded this

1122
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,159
trophy because Braiden seems to be a great teammate and

1123
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:48,599
has a selfless attitude despite being a goal scorer first

1124
00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:52,920
and the NHL rank King Mason Black sent out the

1125
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:58,239
poll Bradenyeger versus Connor Geeky and Connor Geeky is nudged

1126
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,000
out by Braden Yeger. Braden Yeger with the win fifty

1127
00:54:01,039 --> 00:54:04,119
one to forty nine Victor. Is that how you'd do it?

1128
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I know people are excited about Geeky going

1129
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,239
to Tampa, and then that's reasonable. There should be some

1130
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,480
excitement there. But I still would take Brandon Yeager here.

1131
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:15,960
I think he has more realistic points scoring upside. I

1132
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,360
definitely think Geeky is more of like a middle six

1133
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,599
kind of guy. He might get some decent opportunity there

1134
00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:23,960
in Tampa, though, we'll see. But Yaeger I think has

1135
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,079
a little bit more upside. I think it depends whether

1136
00:54:26,119 --> 00:54:27,719
they try to keep him down the middle or whether

1137
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,239
they put him more on the wing. Based on some

1138
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,199
of his play driving metrics, he seems like he's trending

1139
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:34,480
more to be a winger, but.

1140
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to see about that.

1141
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,559
Speaker 3: The PNHD for these two is similar, but I think

1142
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:44,239
that there's more context there. The comparables are interesting in

1143
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,079
the Mason Black ranking model, none of them are super exciting.

1144
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:50,039
I think I mentioned on a previous show that one

1145
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:52,239
for Connor Geeky is Sean Monaghan and I think that's

1146
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,119
a pretty reasonable outcome of what he could be. Like

1147
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:57,360
for Yaeger, there's some Joe Veleno and Brian Little also

1148
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,960
not super exciting, but maybe there's a little bit more

1149
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:03,679
side than that. Looking at the hockey prospecting, Jaeger still

1150
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:06,519
has a higher star potential than Geeky twenty one percent.

1151
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:09,960
Geeky has trended down from twenty through three to nine percent,

1152
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,079
both of them at seventy percentile of being a NHLer though,

1153
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:18,559
so the hockey prospecting supports Jaeger here. Looking at some

1154
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:20,800
of the other comps for Yeger, there's a lot of

1155
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,079
kind of average producers to replacement level. But one of

1156
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:27,719
the guys that is really exciting is Luke Roboti. But

1157
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,960
he had an insane jump in his production after coming

1158
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,280
to the NHL, So I'm not sure that Yeager is

1159
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,880
going to do that. We'll have to wait and see.

1160
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,480
Looking out the FHL player card, ten percent chance of

1161
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,440
being a star for Yeager, fifty two percent chance of

1162
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,599
being an NHL urs decent from j Fresh there Jesse.

1163
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: Victor. Who is our need to know prospect for the Jets.

1164
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 3: Need to know is Colby Barlow twenty twenty three, eighteenth

1165
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,840
overall pick. Also, our good friend Peter Harling of our

1166
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,000
Prospect Report had that fantastic picture with Barlow in the

1167
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,400
airport after being drafted in Nashville. Super cool stuff. Anyways,

1168
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,880
he was six foot, one hundred and ninety four pounds

1169
00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:10,639
left shot left wing. Had a little regression in his

1170
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:13,400
production this season from seventy nine points and fifty nine

1171
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,760
games to fifty eight in fifty games. Then Sound Attack

1172
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,800
were the last team in the playoffs of the Ohl

1173
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,960
Western Division and the first out. Last season, the team

1174
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,960
was more middle of the pack, so that context might

1175
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000
have made a bit of a difference. Looking at the

1176
00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:29,360
Fantasy Hockey Life player card, you can see that the

1177
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,920
shots are ten out of ten for Barlow. The hits

1178
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,480
are like sixtieth percent tile and blocks fortieth percentile, so

1179
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:39,079
overall he should have a pretty decent floor for bash

1180
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:42,239
which is nice. But I personally have him rated as

1181
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,440
a five at a ten my Puck stud list with

1182
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,920
a five point twenty four, which means twenty four percent

1183
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,440
tile or twenty four percent chance of being a five.

1184
00:56:50,519 --> 00:56:52,400
So I'm a little lower on him. But let's hear

1185
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,320
a little bit more about Colby Barlow from OURFHL scout.

1186
00:56:55,159 --> 00:57:00,119
Speaker 2: Patrick Patrick says of Colby Barlow skating, Barlow skating look

1187
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:03,360
somewhat awkward and lumbering. First step doesn't look great. However,

1188
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,320
the footwork in stride is excellent. Passing and handling, Colby

1189
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,639
exhibits good passing and handling, uses the size of his

1190
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,840
body and positioning to shield the puck from opponents, and

1191
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,000
makes smart, accurate passes to teammates. Barlow has a very

1192
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:21,000
good shot, especially as one timer from the off wing

1193
00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:24,519
faceoff dot. His IQ able to read the play well,

1194
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,320
maintains his poise. Patrick says that Colby Barlow is not

1195
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,159
the fastest, but is able to use anticipation and poise

1196
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:34,639
to sometimes get an advantage and some breakaways on defenders

1197
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:38,639
for checking. This is a strength for Barlow. He's savviat

1198
00:57:38,639 --> 00:57:41,239
being at the right place in the right time and

1199
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,280
separating the puck from defenders, then moving to a good

1200
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,920
position or passing it to a teammate to get the

1201
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,599
cycle going. Patrick thinks that the defense the lack of

1202
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:53,639
a strong first step hurts him from being a better

1203
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:56,519
defender the efforts there. When he gets close, he's able

1204
00:57:56,559 --> 00:57:59,079
to lift the stick or getting close to jar the

1205
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:03,840
opponent off the so the best asset the shot, and

1206
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:07,320
this is something that he heard referred to as a

1207
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,159
bomb multiple times. In his viewings, the biggest concern not

1208
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,920
as much of a playmaker is Barlow. The top tier

1209
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,519
outcome for this guy at goals heavy, second line winger

1210
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:20,960
whose shot gets him on power play one. That's because

1211
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,039
the shot is so good, the soft hands, the subtlety

1212
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:26,039
in the game, and he can play on the PK,

1213
00:58:26,199 --> 00:58:29,519
which should get him some favor with coaches. The median

1214
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:33,280
outcome for Colby Barlow games good enough that he'll have

1215
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,679
a role in the NHL, but maybe third line power

1216
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:39,760
play two type situation. That's if the deficiencieson has skating

1217
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,480
caused an issue with keeping up with play or getting

1218
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,280
out of position, and the lack of playmaking means a

1219
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:51,559
more limited role. Stylistic comparable that Patrick has is Andre Pillotte.

1220
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:54,480
Barlow's point pace went down slightly this season. At the

1221
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:56,679
end of the season, he got three games with the

1222
00:58:56,719 --> 00:59:00,599
Manitoba Moose got himself one goal in two assists during

1223
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:04,960
that time. Mason Black, the NHL Rank King, put out

1224
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,800
the poll Colby Barlow versus Nate Danielson of the Detroit

1225
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,440
Red Wings and Colby Barlow wins this one in a

1226
00:59:13,559 --> 00:59:18,480
narrow victory fifty four percent to forty six percent. Victor,

1227
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,719
Are you a Barlow over Danielson man.

1228
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,679
Speaker 1: Yes, I am.

1229
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 3: I think probably not too surprising to some of our listeners.

1230
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,719
I've been pretty skeptical of Danielson as a high point producer.

1231
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,239
He did have a kind of an interesting year. He

1232
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,760
struggled a bit at times, but then was also pretty

1233
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,400
good at other times in his recent season, So I

1234
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,079
think that there's some issue in terms of just his

1235
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:49,039
how well he performed. It was a weird year to gauge,

1236
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:53,480
but overall, I think Danielsen did well and I think

1237
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,000
that he was a strong playoff performer for Portland. He

1238
00:59:57,079 --> 00:59:59,239
will be in the AHL next season, so that'll be

1239
00:59:59,239 --> 01:00:01,360
good to see. But I just think that Danielson is

1240
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,239
more of a middle to bottom six center. He probably

1241
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,719
is going to be one of these guys it's better

1242
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,079
in real life for his team than he is for

1243
01:00:09,159 --> 01:00:14,280
the for fantasy, so I'm not so keen on Danielson.

1244
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,400
And he also, if he is a center, might have

1245
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,039
a harder time getting top power play and fantasy relevance,

1246
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:21,360
whereas Barlow, on the other hand, being a winger, I

1247
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,800
think he's clearly a winger. He's got the good shot,

1248
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,920
he's got the finishing ability. As we heard, that might

1249
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,119
be easier for him to flex up to the top

1250
01:00:29,159 --> 01:00:31,440
of the lineup, or at least the top six, and

1251
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:33,599
I like that for him, So I would definitely take

1252
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:37,039
Barlow here. Between Danielson and Barlow, looking at the hockey

1253
01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:41,280
prospecting between the two, it's Barlow pretty easily double the

1254
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,800
star potential of Nate Danielson, both having a pretty strong

1255
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,679
NHL or probability. Looking at some other realistic comps for Barlow,

1256
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,920
I think Logan Kature is someone that he looks a

1257
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,440
bit alike, and he could end up having a similar

1258
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,199
trajectory to Couture in terms of being a sixty to

1259
01:00:56,239 --> 01:00:59,400
seventy point producer. Both of them were Ohl guys actually

1260
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,000
had pretty soil production to Couture at that time. Looking

1261
01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:06,559
at the J Fresh card, Barlow just ten percent chance

1262
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:08,840
of being a star of forty three percent chance in NHLer,

1263
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,639
which is actually not too bad considering how pessimistic the

1264
01:01:12,719 --> 01:01:14,599
J Fresh card usually is for these guys.

1265
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,559
Speaker 2: Jesse, we've talked about him once on this show Who

1266
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:20,679
is to keep your eye prospect, Victor, Yeah.

1267
01:01:20,519 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: We are talked about him.

1268
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,159
Speaker 3: Brad Lambert is the keep your eye on and he

1269
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,880
definitely is someone who I have had to fully come

1270
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,039
around on because I already mentioned that I had had

1271
01:01:33,039 --> 01:01:35,079
a different opinion of him. But he's a twenty twenty

1272
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,079
two to thirtieth overall pick, six foot er, one hundred

1273
01:01:37,079 --> 01:01:39,880
and eighty three pounds, right shot center wing. We heard

1274
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,400
a little bit about that from our great guest. Looks

1275
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,000
like he came mind into being a center, which would

1276
01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:47,320
be great value for the Jets. I'm not sure that

1277
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,519
him being a center helps his fantasy value. It probably

1278
01:01:49,519 --> 01:01:51,320
would be better if he was a winger and could slot

1279
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,360
up easily into the top six. But if you see

1280
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,960
his second line center, that could also be a good thing.

1281
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,880
Not sure he will get there. I mentioned his strong

1282
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:02,719
HL production that was a huge boost after having plus

1283
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:07,400
minus seasons in in the WHL and Liga. I was

1284
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,360
also at the draft talking with Scouch and that was

1285
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,920
one of his boys. He was top five on Lambert

1286
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,519
all season and it was fun to see him come

1287
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:18,599
full circle around and Scouch, to his credit, has never

1288
01:02:18,639 --> 01:02:21,880
really wavered on that opinion of Brad Lambert, so love

1289
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,119
to hear that when it works out for one of

1290
01:02:24,159 --> 01:02:27,559
your guys. Looking at the Fantasy Hockey Life player card

1291
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:30,840
for Lambert, you can see that his shots are eightieth percentile,

1292
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:33,280
but his hits some blocks are just thirtieth percentile, so

1293
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,280
overall he should be average at best. For Bash, he

1294
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,400
might even be more of a points only guy because

1295
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,400
his scoring right now in the AHL was very good,

1296
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,880
but the rest of the number is not so good,

1297
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:45,280
so you might consider him more in a points only option.

1298
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:47,760
But let's hear a little bit more about Brad Lambert

1299
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,880
from REFHL scout.

1300
01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: Hey, for sure, the talent was never in question. Here's

1301
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,639
what our guy Patrick talked about with Brad Lambert. Excellent

1302
01:02:56,679 --> 01:02:59,599
skater is Brad Lambert enables him to be a trusted

1303
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:02,800
transper order of the puck up the ice, passing and handling.

1304
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:07,400
Extremely capable in both measures. The handling's evident when transporting

1305
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,800
the puck. He makes good passes. Shooting, Lambert has a

1306
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,159
shot that is most effective from the face off dots,

1307
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:16,039
although his touch allowed him to score some goals in

1308
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:20,519
the paint IQ. Unfortunately, Lambert's play doesn't show good vision

1309
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:23,880
or anticipation. He has poised, but doesn't do well at

1310
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,679
foreseen play and sometimes looks out of place for checking

1311
01:03:28,159 --> 01:03:31,599
that's not necessarily Lambert's forte. He can help on the cycle,

1312
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:34,000
but didn't show much evidence of being able to separate

1313
01:03:34,119 --> 01:03:37,760
defenders from the puck. Likewise, defenders were often able to

1314
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,840
separate him from the puck defense when he skates back defense,

1315
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,119
it doesn't necessarily translate to engagement. Rarely was he active

1316
01:03:46,159 --> 01:03:49,840
involved in nullifying the other team's offense. So the best

1317
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:54,760
asset easily his puck transporting ability and the biggest concern

1318
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:00,960
hockey sense defensive engagement. The top tier outcome is top

1319
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:03,880
six winger. That's even a little bit below what our

1320
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,639
guests said today, but the justification there. Patrick sees that

1321
01:04:07,679 --> 01:04:11,400
despite deficiencies in the game, Brad Lambert his point pace

1322
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:15,159
at the AHL shows that the skating, passing, had shot

1323
01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:17,840
are such valuable skills they've already served him. Perhaps with

1324
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,320
time he can improve that hockey sense. The median outcome

1325
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,000
bottom six winger, power play specialist. The deficiencies in his

1326
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:27,440
game limited him to a lesser role in that scenario,

1327
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,000
but he still has enough to contribute to the NHL.

1328
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:35,840
Stylistic comparable perhaps the more offensively skilled Michael Grabner, says Patrick,

1329
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,679
and despite the deficiencies in his game, Patrick ultimately thinks

1330
01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:41,400
he's going to find his way to the NHL and

1331
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:46,280
Brad Lambert will be a middle six winger. The Mason

1332
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,559
Black NHL Rank king pole for this one is Brad

1333
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:54,800
Lambert versus Connors Zery of the Calgary Flames, and Zeri

1334
01:04:55,679 --> 01:04:59,559
is the superior in this poll over Lambert fifty eight

1335
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,159
to two. Victor, you said you've been coming around on Lambert.

1336
01:05:04,199 --> 01:05:06,280
Are you coming around strong enough to put him past

1337
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:06,920
Connor Zeri?

1338
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,079
Speaker 3: This is a really hard one because I really like

1339
01:05:10,159 --> 01:05:14,320
Connor Zery, and I really think what he did this

1340
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,280
season was super impressive in the NHL. The point total

1341
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,679
may not say it so much forty four point pace,

1342
01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:22,840
but he played sixty three NHL games, his underlying metrics

1343
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,480
were generally really good on a pretty poor Calgary team,

1344
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,760
and so him being able to do as well as

1345
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,760
he did was super impressive. I'm also impressed with Lambert

1346
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,559
in the way that he's progressed, but I think that

1347
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:36,519
I would go Zeri just because he has done it

1348
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:39,320
at the NHL level, and I think I'm just a

1349
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,159
little worried about the talent around him, but him being

1350
01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:45,159
a winger, that should also help Zeri in terms of

1351
01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:47,280
getting top power play time and getting a little bit

1352
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,400
more of those great offensive minutes. And I don't tend

1353
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,079
to worry so much about who they're playing with. I

1354
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:54,920
think the best players right to the top anyways, So

1355
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:56,920
I will go Zeri, but it's really close.

1356
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,079
Speaker 1: I think gonna be happy with either.

1357
01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 3: And quite frankly, if you're in a league that value

1358
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:03,079
use players who have more minors eligible time, you might

1359
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:06,679
go Lambert because he has had fewer NHL games and

1360
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,960
he could flex up and down a little bit more often.

1361
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:11,639
So if that's a concern, you might think about that.

1362
01:06:12,199 --> 01:06:15,719
Looking at Lambert's PNHL is hilarious actually, because in his

1363
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,880
D minus one season he had one hundred and eleven

1364
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,079
PNHIL and then he went all the way down to

1365
01:06:20,119 --> 01:06:24,480
a plat to a Nayder at thirty two or Trry

1366
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:29,199
twenty two point a PNHL. Now in this current HL pace,

1367
01:06:29,199 --> 01:06:31,960
he's up to a seventy five PNHL. Wild ride there.

1368
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,039
If you're looking at Lambert's pnchil, Zeri has been more

1369
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:41,159
consistently in the sixty to eighty PNHL, settling down near sixty.

1370
01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:44,440
But I think there's upside for more from Zeri. As

1371
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,280
I mentioned, looking at the hockey prospecting between the two,

1372
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,119
it really does not like Brad Lambert zero percent chance

1373
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:52,480
of being a star, forty nine percent chance of being

1374
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,440
an NHL er Zeri has trended down from fifty nine

1375
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,599
to ten percent chance of being a star, and that's

1376
01:06:58,679 --> 01:07:01,159
locked because he's graduated from the model. Looking at some

1377
01:07:01,239 --> 01:07:04,159
other comps for Brad Lambert, I don't think it's even

1378
01:07:04,199 --> 01:07:07,079
worth mentioning because none of these zero percent guys are

1379
01:07:07,159 --> 01:07:11,599
really interesting or known at all, So he basically would

1380
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:14,679
have to break the statistical model to be relevant, which

1381
01:07:14,679 --> 01:07:16,440
he might, and it seems like he has at least

1382
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,159
partially done that. Looking at the j fresh card, ten

1383
01:07:19,159 --> 01:07:21,239
percent chance of being a star, forty seven percent chance

1384
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,480
of being an NHLer, So a little bit of hope there,

1385
01:07:24,519 --> 01:07:26,920
But overall, I really think you should take a look

1386
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,599
at Brad Lambert and he might do some really good

1387
01:07:28,599 --> 01:07:29,239
things this year.

1388
01:07:29,519 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: But that's it for the Winnipeg Jets.

1389
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:31,079
Speaker 4: Dig.

1390
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:32,599
Speaker 3: If you're a Patreon, you can listen to my top

1391
01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:35,760
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1393
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: Tremendous will be right back to close up a show.

1394
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,440
This is the time and the show. I remind you

1395
01:07:54,519 --> 01:07:57,199
to play leagues on faint tracks. You can move leagues

1396
01:07:57,239 --> 01:07:59,360
over there. You could start new leagues. There's still time

1397
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,360
to get a dinis de league cooking for this year,

1398
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,920
even it's less than a month until the season starts.

1399
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,880
Less than a month, I tell you so. The Jets

1400
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,480
are not the only team you're going to be paying

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01:08:09,519 --> 01:08:12,960
attention to very soon as you get into your drafts.

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there follow his work as well as this other podcast,

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Dauber Prospects Report Peter Harlan. Check out Victor's articles at

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EP rings. Sidbery's part of the Fantasy Team with Cam

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Robinson and Mike Clifford. A solo show called Dynasty Sports

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Life where I talk all the Dynasty sports that is baseball, football, basketball,

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and hockey and combined strategy episodes as well. Follow on

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x at Fan Hockey Life at Victor Nugno twelve, Rate

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and review us on Apple Pods, Spotify, wherever else you

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get your pods. Thank you for listening to this episode

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once again, and until next time, keep living that fantasy

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