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<v Speaker 1>I mean this in the nicest possible way. Mac, you

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<v Speaker 1>look like someone that for Halloween at one point in

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<v Speaker 1>your life went as a guynecologist, so or a federal

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<v Speaker 1>body inspector. I'm sorry, a female body inspector.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, yeah I never did. Really, you know me,

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<v Speaker 2>gu Almost every Halloween costume I've ever worn in my

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<v Speaker 2>adult life has all been as convenient as could possibly be.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not wearing some outlandish type of shit. The most

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<v Speaker 2>outlandist thing I wore I was a kissing booth my

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<v Speaker 2>junior year of college. But I didn't make it. Some

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<v Speaker 2>girl volunteered. She had the idea. She said, if I

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<v Speaker 2>make this, will you wear I said, absolutely, no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>about it, So that worked out pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>The kissing booth is not that far off from the

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<v Speaker 1>better of the female body inspector, though, right, it's more creative.

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<v Speaker 2>Though the kissing booth, no, I wasn't my creativity. I

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<v Speaker 2>just benefited from it. One good three yeah jos three,

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<v Speaker 2>King of Queen and.

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<v Speaker 1>Marl Street.

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<v Speaker 2>Entertainment that tooks so long, That tooks so long for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Mac, and we are the Magic Program. We're friends,

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<v Speaker 2>we are venom. If you are listening, to this and

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<v Speaker 2>don't have access to anything with a screen on it.

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<v Speaker 2>You just spent about thirty five seconds struggling with some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of sweatshirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Deal spandex to full spandex suit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, and he had a venom face there for

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<v Speaker 2>a second and did an a plus tom hardy venom impression.

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<v Speaker 1>A venom A symbotes just jumped into my skeleton and

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<v Speaker 1>turned me into a venom.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's a good question for you and the folks

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<v Speaker 2>at home. If you had to be any color, Simbaio,

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<v Speaker 2>which color would you be?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, black is the sleekest, Maybe red.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mind. I didn't mind, like the greyist looking

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<v Speaker 2>one that we maybe or maybe didn't see in this

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<v Speaker 2>movie Go. You know, I'm a sucker for gray.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when I do Mario Kart and I pick Yoshi,

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<v Speaker 1>I always do black and white Yoshi, nice little Oreo Yoshi.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, yeah, I guess. I guess black is

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<v Speaker 2>probably the most popular answer. But maybe red for carnage too,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>There you also, I had that costume. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>used to go as a character for my nephew's birthday

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<v Speaker 1>every year, and then for his seventh or eighth birthday

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<v Speaker 1>when I wore the Venom costume, him and his friends

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<v Speaker 1>hit me with hockey sticks and that was the end

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<v Speaker 1>of that chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>You got pumped.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all a big Ashton Kutcher prank.

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<v Speaker 2>Go. Yes, today we are discussing the latest and not

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<v Speaker 2>so greatest entry into the Sony Spider Verse, the Venom verse,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you'd like to call this this movie universe. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>we were discussing Venom the Last Dance, which I must

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<v Speaker 2>say is a terrible name for this movie. I really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't care for it, and they also leaned into that

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<v Speaker 2>a couple times, which I didn't care for.

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<v Speaker 1>How did they get none of the Chicago bulls in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie?

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<v Speaker 2>You should have been able to get Rodman in because they.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in Vegas for a scene or two of this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>How is Rodman not in the background or okay, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the character's name? He dances with her in Vegas?

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<v Speaker 2>Missus Chen, missus Chen.

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<v Speaker 1>Rodman should have walked out of the bedroom half naked

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<v Speaker 1>as if they had just made love.

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<v Speaker 2>That that scene alone would have bumped this movie up

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<v Speaker 2>about five dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we just fixed it. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>they should reshoot it? And then re release it goo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this movie made one hundred and seventy five million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars worldwide box office opening weekend, fifty one million domestically,

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<v Speaker 2>which isn't great comparatively, but still pretty good in general.

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<v Speaker 2>And this movie was made on a budget of one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and two million, which is pretty low when you're

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<v Speaker 2>comparing it to a lot of recent superhero comic book movies,

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<v Speaker 2>So this movie is gonna end up making money in

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<v Speaker 2>an aduced amount. The first movie made eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty six million worldwide, very very successful. The second one

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<v Speaker 2>did not do nearly as well five hundred and six

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<v Speaker 2>million worldwide, but still made money.

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<v Speaker 1>That was also Venom two was one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>big theater movies out of the pandemic, so Venom two

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<v Speaker 1>is the reason why Top Gun two was so good.

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<v Speaker 2>There you Go, There you Go. This movie is unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>PG thirteen. Like the first two, it is an action adventure,

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<v Speaker 2>sci fi and thriller, and also the sub genres we

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<v Speaker 2>get here go, alien invasion, Kaiju, road trip, and superhero

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<v Speaker 2>How about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's an alien buddy movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, alien buddy cup.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also you could tell from the get go that

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<v Speaker 1>this movie wanted to be rated R. This movie wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be Deadpool, but it couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they had the makers of the

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<v Speaker 2>movie capable of making this a proper R. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is a sentiment we've echoed through the first two movies.

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<v Speaker 2>These a Venom movies should be an R rated movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Just simple is that, if not even for the jokey jokies,

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<v Speaker 2>just the blood, the gore, like that type of shit,

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<v Speaker 2>we should have an R rating. It would just be cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on, roddy tease. This has thirty eight percent it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was rated R. Do you think Tom Hardy would shave

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<v Speaker 1>swears into his head?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably? Yeah, that'd be a pretty cool, steep, big sea

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<v Speaker 2>bomb on the side of his head there.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be tough for the commercials.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty eight percent from the critics, eighty percent from the audience. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>virtually identical to the first movie, which had thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty percent. The second movie somehow scored higher than both

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<v Speaker 2>of these two and the second movie Goo. Before we

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<v Speaker 2>get into spoilers here, I think is definitively the worst

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that is all on the back of

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<v Speaker 1>Woody Harrelson fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>That is fifty seven percent and eighty four percent, So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that speaks to the thirst for that movie at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, time and place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's saved movies, it's save cinemas. I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>On Metacritic, this has a forty one the first and

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty five Carnage and a forty nine. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where people are coming off with that second movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really but I do understand why people do not

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<v Speaker 1>like this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I think we understand why people. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>the audience has liked all three movies. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>whole hardly understand why the critics haven't really liked any

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<v Speaker 1>A good portion of this movie is half assed generic gobbledegook,

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<v Speaker 1>where it just looks like slime all over the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not entirely wrong, don't. I don't disagree with that. Goo.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of the makers of this movie, this is written

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<v Speaker 2>by Kelly Marcel and Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy's only writing

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<v Speaker 2>credits or This and Let There Be Carnage. Kelly Marcel

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<v Speaker 2>Goo has writing credits on Saving Mister Binks, fifty Stage

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<v Speaker 2>of Gray, and then the first two Venom movies. This

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<v Speaker 2>is directed by Kelly Marcel.

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<v Speaker 1>Great portfolio, I'll tell you that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Very bizarre. This is her first ever directing credit. You're asking,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe where did she come from? I got a nice

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<v Speaker 2>little fun fact for you here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all ears.

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<v Speaker 2>She is a co artistic director of the Bad Dog

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<v Speaker 2>Theater Company, founded in twenty ten alongside Tom Hardy and

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<v Speaker 2>Brett C. Leonard. So she's been a long time Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Hardy friends, that's how she got to where she's at

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<v Speaker 2>for this movie. But a nice little fun fact about

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<v Speaker 2>her ago separate from where she came ahead. This is

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite fun fact of the whole podcast. So after

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<v Speaker 2>this you can you can shut us off. Kelly is

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<v Speaker 2>primarily a writer for film and television, but she started

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<v Speaker 2>her career in musical theater with the UK version of

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<v Speaker 2>Debbie Does Dallas the musical.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I like? Kelly Marcel based off that one fact and

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<v Speaker 2>then that one fact alone, Kelly Marcel thumbs up, thumbs goose.

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<v Speaker 2>Synopsis of Venom The Last Dance, Eddie and Venom on

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<v Speaker 2>the Run face pursuit from both worlds. As circumstances Titan,

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<v Speaker 2>they're compelled to make a heart wrenching choice that could

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<v Speaker 2>mark the end of their symbiotic partnership. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's actually pretty accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>After watching this movie, I also said to myself, the

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<v Speaker 1>trailers really didn't tell us anything. It's Venom, it's Tom Hardy,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna jump into animals.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just Venom with jazz fingers kinda here he is, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well he was in Vegas. I hated that fucking scene.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie stars Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock, and through

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<v Speaker 2>three movies. Other than Michelle Williams of the first movie,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that Tom Hardy is the only bright

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<v Speaker 2>spot in this trilogy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still sweating, he's still mumbling, He's not that coherent.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I will say this is that

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Brock Venom, the twenty to twenty five minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>them just doing a buddy road trip. If you gave

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<v Speaker 1>me a full movie of that, I might have enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Eh, was it for me?

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<v Speaker 1>That was fun and silly. It was lighthearted.

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<v Speaker 2>She would tell Edgie of four as General Rex Strickland,

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen him a number of times now over over

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<v Speaker 2>the years in comic book movies. If he's he's fine

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<v Speaker 2>in this he's he.

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<v Speaker 1>Does what he's a generic army leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, angry general in the army. That's he played it

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<v Speaker 2>to a t.

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<v Speaker 1>He took five of the men.

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<v Speaker 2>Judo Temple. Also not her first time in a comic

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<v Speaker 2>book movie. She's in the Dark Knight. We all remember

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<v Speaker 2>her in The Dark Knight. Of course, she plays doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Teddy Payne in this. Rhys Eifensku is in this as Martin.

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<v Speaker 2>He plays the father of a road tripping family. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is bizarre casting considering he plays the

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<v Speaker 2>lizard in the Andrew Garfield Spider Man universe, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>there's still a chance that this Venom verse operates in

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<v Speaker 2>that Garfield universe, and that's really really bizarre cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear me out, None of this matters.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's probably true. Stephen Graham is back

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<v Speaker 2>as Detective Mulligan. Peggy Loo's back as Missus. Chen Clark

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<v Speaker 2>Baco plays Sadie. She's the scientist with the Christmas Tree.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of you back as Nova. She's the mother

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<v Speaker 2>Terese Iphens's father. You would know her as the gross

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<v Speaker 2>waitress from Waiting or as Sidney Sweeney's mother in Euphoria.

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<v Speaker 2>Christal Fernandez is back. He's Danny Rojas Goo as the

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<v Speaker 2>bartender in the tropical bar that we see Eddie Brock in.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course this movie introduces Null, who is green

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<v Speaker 2>screened by Andy Serkis because apparently he's the only guy

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<v Speaker 2>that does that goo. When you saw this movie, you've

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<v Speaker 2>been sitting on it for about six days. Now, what

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<v Speaker 2>was your rapper reaction and what has changed since number one?

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<v Speaker 1>You just mentioned Null. He looks like trash.

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<v Speaker 2>He does not look good.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks terrible. And it's good that they only had

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<v Speaker 1>him in roughly three scenes. We didn't need any more.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even sure what. There's no bad guys

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<v Speaker 1>It felt a lot like when you're watching the action

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<v Speaker 1>any of those heroes. That's what all of the fights

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the alien dog creatures had that wood chipper

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of it, said that could hurt the.

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<v Speaker 1>Venoms, right, But did it?

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<v Speaker 2>He got a couple of them. I think, Were.

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<v Speaker 1>They any venoms that we actually cared about? No, not

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<v Speaker 2>And you and I don't know enough about the venoms

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<v Speaker 2>to speak on whether they're meaningful or not. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get into that more later. Goo. In regards to Null,

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<v Speaker 2>Null operates in the void. And we've seen the void now,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's sort of the whole impetus for the plot

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<v Speaker 2>of this movie. And like that's okay, But that thing

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen a thousand times over in every Marvel and

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<v Speaker 2>many times to refresh people's memories here for this movie,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, we saw riot in the first movie. He

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<v Speaker 2>in the second, and these movies all three take place

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<v Speaker 2>roughly over one year. That alien dog race that that

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<v Speaker 2>Goo and I were talking about is called zenophages. I

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<v Speaker 1>Now credit to this movie. Venom didn't just fight another

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, true, they really swear us here kind of And again,

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<v Speaker 2>the essentially the premise of this movie is that Null

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<v Speaker 2>this imprisonment imprisonment, he needs to find a codex, and

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<v Speaker 2>which is with its host, and that only happens when

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<v Speaker 2>the host dies and the symbiote saves it fusing their souls.

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<v Speaker 2>So Aka, Eddie and Venom have a codex. These alien

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<v Speaker 2>dog races come after them after Null dispatches them. But

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<v Speaker 2>I this brings into question everything about Null, because if

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<v Speaker 2>out of that prison. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of like the I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into like the spoilers. We can talk about that in

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<v Speaker 1>a second at the end of mid post credits, but

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<v Speaker 1>like just the end of the movie, the end of

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<v Speaker 1>that character is just so stupid because also, like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are the plans for this universe? Are we just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>leave it at this and I guess Nel's gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>over type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's a great question. We're also operating

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<v Speaker 2>in this movie with Area fifty one. It's being decommissioned,

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<v Speaker 2>but they introduced something else, Area fifty five, which is

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<v Speaker 2>alive and well and like one hundred feet below Area

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one, so that's a thing as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer Area sixty five where Eiffel reign supreme.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was the joke. Didn't make any sense, but

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<v Speaker 2>I understood what you were going for.

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<v Speaker 1>If you take what I just said, chop it up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and mix the words around, it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna work shop it for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>You can talk for the next half hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like to get into the octagon here?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking that that we cut some of these soon

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<v Speaker 2>Only have eight. We only have eight listed here, so

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<v Speaker 2>you cut something.

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<v Speaker 1>No hot dogs? No, oh no, you're right. Maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>think of it on the fly. Fun factor, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you and I had fun with different parts of

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. I enjoyed the alien and his buddy going

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. I would have liked it if it

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<v Speaker 1>was just them going from Mexico to New York and

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<v Speaker 1>ending up at like the Statue of Liberty, going from

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<v Speaker 1>city to city and doing it that way. But what

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<v Speaker 1>we got was about fifteen to twenty minutes of that

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<v Speaker 1>the high jinks, and then the rest of it is

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<v Speaker 1>just this boring garbage area fifty five stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's movies not that fun. It's not. However, the

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<v Speaker 2>Eddie and bra are the Eddie and Venom stuff is

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<v Speaker 2>like inherently kind of fun, and you still obviously still

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<v Speaker 2>get that in this movie. So is not fun. As

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<v Speaker 2>this movie was, it was fun enough to like keep

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<v Speaker 2>me somewhat locked in during the run time, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't I didn't hate myself at the end of this movie,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I wasn't. I wasn't I wasn't smashing my head

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<v Speaker 2>off the seat in front of me. Like it was

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<v Speaker 2>watchable right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think as soon as we get into that

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<v Speaker 1>final scene at area fifty five, that is just stop.

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<v Speaker 1>The entire movie stopped for me, and it just went

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<v Speaker 1>on forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I liked, you know, all the powers being shown.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really like it because they I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you just you just you just don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll do imagination. They show you everything. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing for imagination. It's not like they're like if they

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<v Speaker 1>they cut to Juno on the sideline going that one's green,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they have clause.

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<v Speaker 2>She's narrating the final fight right the theater of the mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll do borometer.

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<v Speaker 2>First.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very bored in this.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest. I didn't find myself off that

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<v Speaker 2>board it's tied into. I just think Tom Hardy is

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<v Speaker 2>really good always, and so I wasn't that bored. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying I had fun or and really enjoyed necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>was on screen. I just wasn't bored, if that makes.

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<v Speaker 1>But that on the movie poster. I wasn't bored coma.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like I had.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was distracted the whole movie. One way or

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<v Speaker 2>the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's go back to Satisfactor. And this is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be the final of a trilogy, and they really

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<v Speaker 1>went out of their way to try and make this satisfactory,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the end of the movie, I was the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's really nothing to be satisfied now about at

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<v Speaker 2>the conclusion of this movie. And it's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things where at the end of this trilogy, we're sitting

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<v Speaker 2>here thinking, it's been six years, you know, six year run.

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<v Speaker 2>Venom was came out in twenty eight. Now, did we

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<v Speaker 2>really need to do this? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know what not to get poly charged here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but if either of the presidential candidates made it a rule,

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<v Speaker 1>made of a law that you can't put mid in

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<v Speaker 1>post credit scenes in there just to be silly, I

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<v Speaker 1>would vote for them. Post credit and mid credits need

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<v Speaker 1>to have a purpose. Again, it's not funny. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>funny any.

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<v Speaker 2>Mad movie to make that point with These are both purposeful.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you like where it's going or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Were they truly purposeful? Yeah, you got an I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>it myself and you got come on spoilers, man, look man,

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<v Speaker 1>just put everything Because also these were the longest credits

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. These were I sat around for roughly

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes waiting for the complete post credit. I know

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<v Speaker 1>who got Tom Hardy as coffee, and I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 1>to know everyone's names, but I am so sick of

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<v Speaker 1>the post credit stuff. Put it in the run time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's it's er your ten minutes to decompress and

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<v Speaker 2>start taking notes into notes out. That's really what I

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<v Speaker 2>use it for.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know what I did. I'm I made fun

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<v Speaker 1>of Juno and her stupid character. That's what I do

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<v Speaker 1>with my ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Started to started a tight five on Juno Temple. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my arm? Does it work?

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I get venom.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see you get struck by lightning. See how

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Let me see.

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<v Speaker 1>You hold your brother's hand while being struck by lightning

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<v Speaker 1>and then he gets exploded, and then you have to

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<v Speaker 1>live with the guilt and a dead arm. Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I bet you would love that Constant Strangers.

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<v Speaker 2>You can figure out an attachment there. You know, probably

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have a good grip.

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<v Speaker 1>Dead weight A quarter worlds. This is below water World.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, this is below water World and below Aquaman.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is it's not as bad as hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, m no, it' stop stop. I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not even as bad as the second movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that this was this all felt so

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<v Speaker 1>lazy and like none of it really Like, at least

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<v Speaker 1>with the second one, you have those like scenes of

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie and Venom going out and causing chaos. This one

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<v Speaker 1>you had a little bit of that, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>like it was pulled back. There wasn't as much.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, that's true, But again, when you're when you're

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<v Speaker 2>in your third movie in and you're still not able

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<v Speaker 2>to use certain things because you're stuck in your own

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<v Speaker 2>little corner of the universe, You're just like, what else

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna do besides introduce all these venoms?

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<v Speaker 1>I also liked in the first scene or the second scene.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how scenes work, but when Venom made

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, dude, we've done this joke in every movie

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<v Speaker 1>the past three years, the exact same joke.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying, the Type five you have Juno Temple

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<v Speaker 2>is funnier than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she's got that dead arm. I just did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet stranger joke. You guys all heard my set right

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<v Speaker 1>pants tensity excite bike mania. Did anything in this movie

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<v Speaker 1>get you going?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you like this movie? I can't even tell. You

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking it up and then like walking it back.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping for a little new de tay from

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<v Speaker 2>Juno Tepla.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't get that, you knew you weren't getting that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't necessarily know that, I figured.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Max like it, wouldn't mind trimming her Christmas tree.

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<v Speaker 2>And then even I can get her one of those uh,

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<v Speaker 2>one of those ornaments from Target. Yeah. No, there's really

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to excite you in this In this one.

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<v Speaker 1>For a movie that you are so met on, you

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<v Speaker 1>are just defending it, NonStop, defend all. You are defending

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<v Speaker 1>it like a Madman Halloween. I will never think of

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<v Speaker 1>this movie ever again. I don't think I even think

426
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<v Speaker 1>of this series ever again.

427
00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a pretty forgettable movie, no doubt.

428
00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Like the Venom movies are supposed to serve as a

429
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<v Speaker 1>palate cleanser, or like the one off that isn't connected

430
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<v Speaker 1>to anything else. For the people that don't like the

431
00:22:01.799 --> 00:22:04.119
<v Speaker 1>tie in with the mcu and they don't like the

432
00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>running story of the forty movies coming together, and this

433
00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:11.400
<v Speaker 1>movie is just it's not interesting.

434
00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. But there is the possibility that.

435
00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:19.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a part of Garfield or tobym wers Null here.

436
00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.079
<v Speaker 2>And maybe null does matter at some point.

437
00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:23.799
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, because you heard that Null and other symbiodes

438
00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.079
<v Speaker 1>might be a part of the Tom Holland for movie.

439
00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:28.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's all sorts of chatter and shit. But so

440
00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:32.200
<v Speaker 2>in that respect, I guess it could become more significant

441
00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:34.599
<v Speaker 2>than it is at the moment. But do we want

442
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<v Speaker 2>it to know?

443
00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't mind if they actually renamed the Spider Man

444
00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:41.119
<v Speaker 1>movies Tom Holland instead, But then you can still let

445
00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:43.200
<v Speaker 1>him be Spider Man. It's just that now it's called

446
00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Tom Holland, and it would let us know who Spider

447
00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Man is in the movie.

448
00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:47.799
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, no doubt.

449
00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:49.920
<v Speaker 1>What else we got? Max credit? Union? Do you have

450
00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:52.680
<v Speaker 1>credit for anyone besides the director? Actually just give her.

451
00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll give her credit for the Debbie does Dallas musical.

452
00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:58.359
<v Speaker 2>You know what, No, you know, I'll save this for

453
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<v Speaker 2>the next thing. I won't give credit to the person

454
00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:03.279
<v Speaker 2>there's other than Tom hardy. There's no real credit to me.

455
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm about plemonade. When life gives you lemons or plemons plemonade.

456
00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I think Greese Iphen's kind of made plemonade. His family

457
00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:13.920
<v Speaker 2>and his characters should have never been in this movie.

458
00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:16.559
<v Speaker 2>But Reese Iphen's kind of had fun, and I kind

459
00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:17.359
<v Speaker 2>of had fun with him.

460
00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Did you like the line aliens suck?

461
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Because his whole life, you know, has been building towards this,

462
00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:26.440
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, fuck that. Oh, we gotta swear

463
00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:29.000
<v Speaker 2>in this movie. We got a motherfucker in this movie.

464
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<v Speaker 1>I've always said to you, while I believe that aliens

465
00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:35.400
<v Speaker 1>are real and everything that goes along with that, I

466
00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:37.200
<v Speaker 1>never want to meet one. Never.

467
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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I here's where I stand on the aliens thing. Clearly,

468
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:44.720
<v Speaker 2>aliens exist. I don't think we're ever gonna see an alien,

469
00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.759
<v Speaker 2>but the universe is too large for aliens to not exist.

470
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<v Speaker 2>I could be further away on the ghost front, I don't.

471
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<v Speaker 1>I guess the question now is do you believe that

472
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<v Speaker 1>there are already aliens among us?

473
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<v Speaker 2>No? Absolutely not.

474
00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they are as human beings.

475
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Aliens want to live on this planet.

476
00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen a platypus? Have you seen half of

477
00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the creatures in Australia, they might be aliens.

478
00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.880
<v Speaker 2>The only thing this planet could possibly offer aliens is

479
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.079
<v Speaker 2>a litany of pornography. It's it. But would you want

480
00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:16.359
<v Speaker 2>to watch pornography of a species that's not yours?

481
00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:20.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess we can test it out. Okay, do you

482
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<v Speaker 1>believe in a us os as opposed to flying objects?

483
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:24.559
<v Speaker 1>They're submerged.

484
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to rule it out. The ocean is vast,

485
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.000
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of ocean. Yeah, as we've seen though,

486
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.759
<v Speaker 2>you can only go so deep before a ship is

487
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<v Speaker 2>going to implode. So there's only so many hiding spots.

488
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<v Speaker 1>Well, what about alien technology?

489
00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.759
<v Speaker 2>You're right, you're right, But is alien technology? Well, so

490
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.799
<v Speaker 2>here's a question. I'm questions for someone brighter than the

491
00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:47.559
<v Speaker 2>both of us. Yeah, are is the vacuum and the

492
00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:52.160
<v Speaker 2>pressures of space greater than or less than the bottom

493
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<v Speaker 2>of the ocean?

494
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<v Speaker 1>I would like one of our scientist listeners to please

495
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<v Speaker 1>reach out to us.

496
00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's got to be an answer to that somewhere.

497
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<v Speaker 1>Is that all the things? I guess we're on hot dogs?

498
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Huh we are? We have reached the reach the hot dogs.

499
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:07.759
<v Speaker 1>For those of you tardy to the Mac and Goo Party.

500
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>We rate everything on a forty hot dog rating scale.

501
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>While I don't think this is the worst of the trilogy,

502
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I still I hate the second one, and I understand

503
00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that the second one might have higher highs than this

504
00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:24.079
<v Speaker 1>movie does. But Woody Harrelson in that movie is just

505
00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:27.759
<v Speaker 1>an abomination to my eyes and ears. The end of

506
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the movie too. I hated that. But the end of

507
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>this movie is not good either. I enjoyed our twenty

508
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>to twenty five minutes of our Buddy Alien road Trip.

509
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I would have loved an entire movie of that. We

510
00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>did not get that. I thought that every side character,

511
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>every other starring character in this movie was completely useless

512
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and generic. The story in general was pretty useless and generic.

513
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.400
<v Speaker 1>It was a let's look for a key. It happens

514
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<v Speaker 1>to be in this character that they can hide the

515
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:57.279
<v Speaker 1>key if they do a certain thing, which by the

516
00:25:57.359 --> 00:25:59.400
<v Speaker 1>end of the movie, the reason why they would still

517
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>do this thing didn't even really make any sense. At

518
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>certain points. I didn't like how they got to the base.

519
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like anything at the base. I didn't like

520
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the enemy. I did not like the villain. Eighteen hot dogs.

521
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, uh to give the folks some perspective here.

522
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>You should have given me perspective before I just did

523
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:20.799
<v Speaker 1>my little thing.

524
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna, but you were you were, you were,

525
00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:24.759
<v Speaker 2>you were vibing there, you were rolling.

526
00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>You saw me turning the key, and you're like, I

527
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 1>don't want to give.

528
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Him a false start reving the engine here.

529
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:30.559
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to have a bock.

530
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.559
<v Speaker 2>The first movie I gave thirty, you gave twenty seven. Yeah.

531
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<v Speaker 2>In our podcast for the second movie, you wreckcon you're

532
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven to twenty three makes sense. I agree. It

533
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:41.799
<v Speaker 2>probably came down a couple For me. I'd probably be

534
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:43.200
<v Speaker 2>at twenty seven or twenty eight on them.

535
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably say twenty four to twenty five. But go ahead.

536
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm very sorry.

537
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So, so you've got up one or two the

538
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>first one, yeah, the second movie I gave twenty four.

539
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Initially you gave eighteen. I think you're probably spot on

540
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>with the eighteen. On the second one. I've I've got

541
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:59.279
<v Speaker 2>to come down substantially from that second one. I just

542
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>the more I think, the more I've thought about the

543
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>second one in the years past, just really didn't enjoy it,

544
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 2>and giving a twenty four I didn't enjoy it in

545
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:06.880
<v Speaker 2>the first one.

546
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>The first one deserves more credit now seeing what we've

547
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:11.599
<v Speaker 1>gotten with the last two movies, that that was the

548
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:12.640
<v Speaker 1>best case scenario.

549
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I totally agree this movie. Gu I gotta say, as

550
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.200
<v Speaker 2>not good as this movie is, it didn't feel like

551
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.400
<v Speaker 2>a task to watch, and I think that's exclusively because

552
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 2>of Hardy. I do like the number of like power

553
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.880
<v Speaker 2>sets in symbiotes we see in this movie. I guess

554
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.799
<v Speaker 2>that's cool. However, once again, I'm.

555
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Just so middling on all of your praise. I guess

556
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that's cool.

557
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand the whole null imprisonment thing. Like again,

558
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:43.680
<v Speaker 2>that makes no sense to me. If he can create

559
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:44.799
<v Speaker 2>these portals, I don't think.

560
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you think he was fake in jail, like he

561
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even tied up?

562
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I don't really get.

563
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Guys, I can't get up in these scratches his head.

564
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.359
<v Speaker 2>The conversation with the little kid in the van is

565
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>possibly the worst scene in any movie this year. That

566
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:00.880
<v Speaker 2>was really fucking bad. That was that was terrible, really

567
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:05.200
<v Speaker 2>incredibly stupid. Uh yeah, kid, ilions aren't well. And then

568
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.240
<v Speaker 2>the kid just lays down on this fucking street.

569
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>To him, yet he could be a good dad.

570
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Uh again, I'll echo the sentiment about this not being

571
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>our that hurts it. That family being added in general

572
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.440
<v Speaker 2>is so fucking stupid. And this is always one of

573
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:24.559
<v Speaker 2>our major complaints with movies, these Kaiju movies and these

574
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>big monster movies. We don't need bullshit families added strictly

575
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 2>to give us some like emotional attachment. No one wants it,

576
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:32.799
<v Speaker 2>no one asks for it. It does not make the movie better.

577
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's dumb, dude. This movie feels like a

578
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.559
<v Speaker 2>really poor version of the two thousand and seven Transformers movie.

579
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:42.839
<v Speaker 2>Like a lot of the same notes are hit. You're

580
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>dealing with a lot of the same themes. However, that

581
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 2>was two thousand and seven and it had two thousand

582
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>and seven Megan Fox seventeen years later, that movie, especially

583
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>with Hew Megan Fox, does not hit. Does not work.

584
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.480
<v Speaker 2>And like, there's also nothing in here to like invoke

585
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:02.119
<v Speaker 2>the satisfying stuff that's in movie like Transformers or the

586
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>nostalgia or anything like that to prey upon. There's nothing

587
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 2>like that in here. So I have this at twenty one.

588
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Hot Dogs Cool. It's my number twenty six movie on

589
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 2>the year. I think I've seen thirty two, So again,

590
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>there are definitively worse movies so far this year for me.

591
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.440
<v Speaker 2>But again, it's not good. It just lacks a punch.

592
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>But it also could have been a lot worse. So

593
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.240
<v Speaker 2>I've come back and forth. This could have been a

594
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>lot worse. It lacks a punch. I don't I didn't

595
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>hate myself for watching this movie. That's that's that's my

596
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:32.039
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on this movie.

597
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I have this movie bottom eight on the year.

598
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's bottom seven for me. Yeah.

599
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I saw recently? What trap?

600
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Did you like it?

601
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 1>It never ends?

602
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I almost pulled I almost I almost started it the

603
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>other day.

604
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Actually, I think that you because you really like, you know,

605
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.039
<v Speaker 1>movies following like how life is supposed to be, like

606
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the technicalities, especially with like police's work, FBI and all that.

607
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>This movie is so ridiculous.

608
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:01.920
<v Speaker 2>When it comes to that, God damn it.

609
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I would argue that Josh Hartnett would have been found

610
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:05.519
<v Speaker 1>within the first three minutes.

611
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, now I gotta watch it. Okay, now I

612
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:10.559
<v Speaker 2>have to watch it.

613
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just gonna upset you.

614
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how many movies are up to by the way,

615
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:16.359
<v Speaker 2>thirty two? Oh so we both get thirty two. I

616
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 2>would like to get to fifty once again. I think

617
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I should be able to get there by the end

618
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:19.480
<v Speaker 2>of the year.

619
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know what's coming out for the rest

620
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 1>of the year, but we'll figure it out.

621
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.519
<v Speaker 2>There is a handful that I've that I have been

622
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.359
<v Speaker 2>meaning to watch over the last couple of months, though,

623
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:29.079
<v Speaker 2>So I should get to forty with these.

624
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 1>But you can put this on the trap poster carrot

625
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 1>sign facing over Garfield.

626
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, two movies I haven't seen, so.

627
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>M night, Shyamalan. Put that in your pipe and smoke.

628
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 2>It, Spilers, Spiler. So at the end of this movie,

629
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the big grand conclusion, Venom sacrifices himself the symbia Venom

630
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>in order to destroy the Codex and all these sino phages.

631
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Speaker 2>He like consumes them all and kills himself.

632
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>With that sentence that you just said, if you didn't

633
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:05.759
<v Speaker 1>understand what was going on, you would think that you

634
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 1>are a fucking lunatic.

635
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>How did you feel about the emotional moment between Eddie

636
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and Venom at the end there?

637
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Zero? Okay, zero, I'll ask you, because you're you know,

638
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:20.599
<v Speaker 1>more into fire and whatnot. If you're just covered by

639
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.039
<v Speaker 1>a door, and that's obviously it's a very protective door.

640
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>But would Eddie survive that.

641
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he could survive. I think he could survive.

642
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 2>I think he'd be like severely concussed and like pretty injured.

643
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>But I would argue that he's always severely concussed.

644
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true. That's true, and he is hospitalized. So

645
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Like I.

646
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Guess if so, if you have one concussion, but you

647
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>just keep getting concussions during that concussion, does it count

648
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>as one concussion?

649
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it never really ends. I think it's I

650
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 2>think it's kind of like pooping, right, It's exactly like that.

651
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>If you don't get up, it's one poop.

652
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:54.039
<v Speaker 2>It is exactly like.

653
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought that the Healey's storyline, Juno Temple is the

654
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 1>scientist from the get go, by the way, but from

655
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 1>the first scene with her, I was like, what are

656
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>we doing? What is this scene in the Venom movie

657
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>of these children running on the beach. One kid has

658
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 1>struck my lightning, the other one's got a dead arm.

659
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:21.279
<v Speaker 2>It was a nightmare.

660
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a nightmare. It actually happened.

661
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess memory.

662
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.839
<v Speaker 1>But then that scene then rolls on into her going

663
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>to area fifty one to area fifty five, and we

664
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>that scene was so long, and they kept on flashing

665
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 1>back and showing us more stuff like why should we

666
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>care about this character? And then you know that she

667
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.759
<v Speaker 1>is either gonna be a bad guy by the end

668
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 1>or she's gonna cure her arm with venom.

669
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, she becomes agony in her sweet fucking purplish pink

670
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:50.960
<v Speaker 2>suit there with the hair.

671
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.039
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that? Didn't make a move,

672
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>but I was gonna ask you do you think that's

673
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>the most attractive venom?

674
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 2>For sure? Easily by far. Goot I raise you Judo

675
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Temple with the Christmas tree Lady, This fucking lady's character

676
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 2>makes absolutely no sense the first two thirds of the movie.

677
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 2>The way she's acting, so the way she's been written

678
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and directed is implying they're making it seem like she

679
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:22.079
<v Speaker 2>may kill Venom or Eddie to destroy the codex and

680
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.480
<v Speaker 2>save the world. What does she do instead? The complete

681
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>fucking opposite.

682
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Who is she? John Carrey?

683
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>She has? She takes the venom and saves Eddie with

684
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 2>like that was so so bad?

685
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>She want to take this of that sweet sweet venom?

686
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>She just needed more.

687
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 2>That character was the worst character in the movie. It

688
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>was fucking terrible.

689
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I wish she morphed in it like an actual Christmas tree.

690
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Fucking Christmas Tree shop just didn't did work for me.

691
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>But to be fair, though, Army General Guy all so terrible.

692
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>All three of those characters were so boring and boring. Yes,

693
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>but ye, so the scenes that Venom weren't in, and

694
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even saying those scenes are great, but the

695
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 1>scenes that Venom and Eddie are not in are unwatchable.

696
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Let's speak it. Of those symbiotes in that final battle.

697
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mulligan.

698
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.079
<v Speaker 2>So at the end of the first or the second movie,

699
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>he fuses with Toxin, which is Carnage's kid. But Toxin

700
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.079
<v Speaker 2>is traditionally like red, like Cartages, I think, and he's

701
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>like Teal in this. I don't know if it's a

702
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>new one or not, but maybe Toxin Juno Judoh Temple

703
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:33.280
<v Speaker 2>becomes Agony diffused with Agony. The Christmas Tree Lady gets

704
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:38.239
<v Speaker 2>with Lasher. Lasher's that cymbiote. Supposedly, all the other ones

705
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>are not one hundred percent at least the Internet hasn't

706
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 2>figured it out one hundred percent. We maybe saw Phage,

707
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe saw Scorn. We got that hybrid one screen might

708
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 2>be the fiery one. I didn't really understand any of them.

709
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Some of them look cool, some of them didn't. The

710
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>biggest miss here is in the comic School, General Strickland

711
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Rex Strickland becomes a t rex cymbia in the comics,

712
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>and we didn't get that in this That's ridiculous.

713
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.639
<v Speaker 1>And then they showed us all of the animal venoms

714
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 1>in the commercial and you're like, Okay, there's gonna be

715
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a bunch in here. No, that's all of them, which

716
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 1>then reminds me of Multiverse of Madness, where there's a

717
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.119
<v Speaker 1>couple multiverses, but we're lacking the madness.

718
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, no, all the phone. We're comparing a movie

719
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:28.199
<v Speaker 2>that promised multiversal madness to a movie that had thirty

720
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.880
<v Speaker 2>seconds of a venom horse of van fish and venom.

721
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:34.079
<v Speaker 1>From a movie that promised us venom going into animals.

722
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.320
<v Speaker 2>It didn't promise us any of that. We just happened

723
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 2>to see it. I think the major thing in this

724
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>movie that makes no sense is we see this dude

725
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.119
<v Speaker 2>in a circular room who has all these screens, all

726
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 2>this technology, and general Strickland can communicate with him, does

727
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 2>communicate with him. This guy's in charge of General Strickland.

728
00:35:56.280 --> 00:36:00.159
<v Speaker 2>He apparently runs this imperium program. We just never ever

729
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 2>get any resolution or reveal with that character. He's just there,

730
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>he exists. They don't go back to him. There's no

731
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.000
<v Speaker 2>mention of him. It's really fucking bizarre.

732
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 1>Do you think he's in Wes Craven The Hunter?

733
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 2>I just don't understand. Obviously. I'm sure this movie had

734
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 2>some reshoots, or maybe there was something played that they

735
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>had the next or maybe they're just setting him off

736
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 2>for the future New rock Stars. Positive that this character

737
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:28.239
<v Speaker 2>could be Martin Lee aka mister Negative and if you

738
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know, miss a Negative. He's the villain in the

739
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>first Spider Man game, which he's great, relatively new villain,

740
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.519
<v Speaker 2>but awesome in that game. And once I had that

741
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 2>in my hand, I was like, you know what he

742
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.280
<v Speaker 2>could be? He might be, Well, we just will never know.

743
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 2>We'll never have any idea if that's the case.

744
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, what if he's in the next Spider Man movie.

745
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing is that all these characters have the

746
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.280
<v Speaker 1>possibility of being in the next actual Spider Man movie.

747
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I suppose that that that could.

748
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:53.800
<v Speaker 1>All be also Craven the Hunter.

749
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we're going to see any of

750
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>these these folks. In Craven, he's a lion Boy, which

751
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:02.440
<v Speaker 2>is the next movie up in this supposed universe. To

752
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 2>the mid credits scene here, Yeah, Noah is free somehow

753
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 2>the movie is set up and the whole point of

754
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.079
<v Speaker 2>the movie is that he needs a codex to be.

755
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Freed, and the codex is destroyed, the whole.

756
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Fucking point of the movie. And then apparently he's free

757
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 2>because quote unquote, your champion has fallen. Your planets will

758
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.760
<v Speaker 2>be mine. The King of Black, the King in Black

759
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>is awake. I will kill your world. Everyone will burn,

760
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.159
<v Speaker 2>and you will watch. Hold the phone once again, Hold

761
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>two phones. Now you don't have a codex. You're not free, motherfucker.

762
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>He's still trapped. It's not true.

763
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe he had his fingers crossed behind his back

764
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>because he actually he was not in he wasn't jailed.

765
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>He was just sitting in a chair. So maybe he

766
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do the work.

767
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>He was just charging his phone. He had to wait

768
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>till it was done before he could leave. The post

769
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.559
<v Speaker 2>credit is Danny Rojas's character emerges from the bunker area

770
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 2>fifty five area fifty one area, and then we see

771
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 2>a cockroach, which they of course reference earlier approaching that

772
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:10.320
<v Speaker 2>little symbia vial that was used by Juno Temple earlier

773
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:13.119
<v Speaker 2>in the movie. And there's still a little sparked there.

774
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>So there's still some symbiotic material on planet Earth.

775
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's put it in the fucking movie. Don't make me

776
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>sit through ten minutes of post credits for this, or

777
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>just regular credits for the post credit. I'm done. I've

778
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.559
<v Speaker 1>had enough of the post credits. It's too much.

779
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I guess there's still symbiotes on Earth, maybe Mister Negatives

780
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>in play, maybe Nules in play. Going forward, Surprisingly, this

781
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.159
<v Speaker 2>universe isn't dead. Of course, we're still getting Spider Man stuff,

782
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 2>but the Sony Verse somehow still hasn't it. It may be,

783
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>it may be very soon, but it's not dead yet.

784
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 1>How much money do you think this movie needs to

785
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:51.639
<v Speaker 1>make for there to possibly be a fourth Venom movie?

786
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not within three years, but five or six years.

787
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're getting another Venom movie. I think

788
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:58.360
<v Speaker 2>we could see Venom and other stuff. I don't think

789
00:38:58.360 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>we're getting another Venom movie.

790
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think that the only way that we

791
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>get Venom back, though, is if he's in a Spider

792
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Man movie, not in another Sony Pictures association with Spot

793
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>with Marvel.

794
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And it's also they've also gotten to the point

795
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 2>if they're gonna pursue Venom in this universe. He's kind

796
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:16.639
<v Speaker 2>of a good guy now, so you can't have him

797
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 2>do the Spider Man stuff.

798
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>He's barely been an anti hero.

799
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 2>He's just killing bad dudes. Yeah, that's all he's doing.

800
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:25.559
<v Speaker 1>So we're rooting for him.

801
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you can't put Hm up against Tom Allen

802
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 2>because we're also gonna root for this character.

803
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll have a new Spider Man in what

804
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.559
<v Speaker 1>three or four years, and then we can just you

805
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:35.599
<v Speaker 1>and watch him with him.

806
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess. So.

807
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 1>I have no other thoughts in this movie. I this

808
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>is this was a real and what sucks is that,

809
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:44.760
<v Speaker 1>like when you go to a movie that you want

810
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>to turn your brain off and just watch, you want

811
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.039
<v Speaker 1>it to be more entertaining than what we just saw.

812
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I totally agree on that front. Yes, that's it lacks entertainment,

813
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:54.840
<v Speaker 2>It lacks a punch.

814
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 1>You made a great you know what I'm gonna hear,

815
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>good job transform the first Transformers a perfect turn your

816
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>brain off. Don't think here.

817
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Is this yeah exactly, that's not what this was. No,

818
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 2>it's I think it tried to do a lot of

819
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:14.239
<v Speaker 2>that and it didn't get there. So to summarize again,

820
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 2>first Venu movie, i'd probably give like twenty eight Currently,

821
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>second one, I think I had to come all the

822
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>way down to like eighteen. I think you were right

823
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 2>about that. This one, I'd give about twenty one. So

824
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 2>i'd rank them one three to two.

825
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Good. Let's get into Max and MAXAK could be anything.

826
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 1>It could be a boat and Max. Since we are

827
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>doing our dump at the end of the week, or

828
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe we're doing something else. We'll talk about that in

829
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.679
<v Speaker 1>one second, but I will point out that we just

830
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>got our sixth episode of The Penguin on HBO, Max

831
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:56.559
<v Speaker 1>and Confirm, and we are just truck truck trucking.

832
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Along Beinguino Minuto.

833
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Mama Mia Miliati.

834
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she is Sylvia Gigante now formerly fell Cone. She

835
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 2>has fully teamed up with uh what's his face there,

836
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:15.199
<v Speaker 2>Clancy Brown and they're coming after Oz.

837
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw a great tweet earlier. It was the still

838
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:22.320
<v Speaker 1>of Maroney, uh teaching her how to make that soup,

839
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>and someone captioned it marone teaching her how to make

840
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:26.280
<v Speaker 1>a krabby Patty.

841
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Uh. Good, good, solid little cliffhanger. At the end of

842
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.559
<v Speaker 2>this episode, they're coming after Oz. They coming after Oz's Mommy,

843
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>great Victor episode, Great Victor episode. Uh. Someone on the

844
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 2>internet made a point, Yes, isn't Bruce Wayne's back cave

845
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 2>connected to these tunnels that the penguin is now utilizing.

846
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:48.639
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point, and maybe the final episode in

847
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a post credit someone stumbles in there. I wouldn't be surprised.

848
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Just uh, picking up on the conversation that Oz Cobb's

849
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:59.159
<v Speaker 1>mom has been tossing out of us.

850
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.079
<v Speaker 2>It's fun to say os Cobb's mom she.

851
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Might commit suicide, and she might not even give them

852
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the satisfaction because she also wants her son to take

853
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 1>that next step and kind of forget about her. Anyways.

854
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.039
<v Speaker 2>I think there's gonna have to be conflict between Victor

855
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:16.199
<v Speaker 2>and Oz, and I think something's gonna happen to his

856
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>mom that he blames.

857
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got a little bit of that in there,

858
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.360
<v Speaker 1>because Victor was lying to the mom about the brothers.

859
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, so they're kind of setting that up. I

860
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 2>really really loved the scene between Sophia and Oz's lady

861
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 2>friend there her name escapes me. That was a great scene,

862
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:32.760
<v Speaker 2>very good scene.

863
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>This show is top notch.

864
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have to fully admit, though, we still need

865
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:39.880
<v Speaker 2>a really high high at some point in the show.

866
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 2>I guess we don't need it, but for it to really.

867
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>We've had some high highs with Sophie really.

868
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 2>No, for it to really like stick out all time,

869
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.360
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna need a gigantic finish.

870
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 1>You didn't like that scene where she was putting her

871
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 1>clothes back on and then she untied the fella who

872
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:56.039
<v Speaker 1>had his pants off.

873
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Once again, two weeks in a row, I've been jealous

874
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.400
<v Speaker 2>of someone being tied up by Sophia. I've been thinking

875
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 2>about that red dress from two episodes ago, sorry, yellow

876
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:05.559
<v Speaker 2>dress from two episodes ago all week one week long.

877
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:08.119
<v Speaker 1>So we have two more episodes of that, and we

878
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.320
<v Speaker 1>also have two more episodes.

879
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.559
<v Speaker 2>Of Oh hitch.

880
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 1>A long boo I am. This last episode pushed me

881
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 1>over the edge of just really I don't care, I

882
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:22.199
<v Speaker 1>just agree.

883
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I am enjoying it.

884
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I like Agatha. I liked her really much as a

885
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:30.119
<v Speaker 1>side character, and they've almost made her a side character

886
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 1>to these really boring witches, and I don't care for witches.

887
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Although I will say the reveal at the end was

888
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a decent reveal and it opens up a lot of possibilities,

889
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily with this show, but Marvel in general.

890
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Totally agree. I'm very excited hopefully for that character to

891
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 2>pop up in things going forward. And I'm actually glad

892
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.320
<v Speaker 2>that Agtha is kind of a side character because she

893
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:56.440
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be a main character. So where they're going with

894
00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:58.320
<v Speaker 2>the story, I enjoy. I like it.

895
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you like the other characters? Sides?

896
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I like Billy.

897
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I like Billy. Billy was barely in this last episode.

898
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I like Billy, and I like the reveal at the

899
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:08.079
<v Speaker 2>end of the last episode.

900
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I stayed awake for this last one, though.

901
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 2>All right, so what are we? What are we? Four? For? Six? Now?

902
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:15.440
<v Speaker 1>How many episodes?

903
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Those been?

904
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Seven episodes?

905
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh so five of seven? You've you've you've had.

906
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:20.599
<v Speaker 1>A suize, But I've stayed awake for two.

907
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 2>All right, So hey, we're on the up and up.

908
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:27.639
<v Speaker 1>I haven't fallen asleep during Penguin so hm hmmm, which

909
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 1>is also released late at night almost midnight.

910
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 2>You're watching it every Sunday night, every Sunday night. Oh god, No,

911
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I got to switch football to watch it.

912
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>And when I say midnight, I mean nine o'clock feels

913
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:39.519
<v Speaker 1>like midnight, Tody.

914
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Sure I get that. No, I'm busy watching football on Sunday.

915
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.039
<v Speaker 1>I Campaday night football. I've I just watched eight hours

916
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 1>of football.

917
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I had. I had a matchup coming down to Ceed

918
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Lamb last night. I had Ceedee Lamb. He crushed it, Banger.

919
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 1>I do DraftKings during the afternoon. My games are over

920
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:55.639
<v Speaker 1>at seven thirty, and then I just closed my eyes.

921
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:57.679
<v Speaker 2>I've had an awful DraftKings season.

922
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I've had a bad Draftking season. And yes, I had

923
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>a day for myself with all of my parlays because

924
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>everything was linked to Drake may.

925
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Fun. Gambleing's fun.

926
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:13.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what I did is as soon as he

927
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.079
<v Speaker 1>walked off the field, clean my attic. I turned my

928
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:18.519
<v Speaker 1>TV off and I cleaned my attic.

929
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you had nothing left to watch.

930
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm good. I don't need to watch any

931
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>more of this.

932
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just feel so all right?

933
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Where can the people find us?

934
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 2>They can find us on Twitter and on Instagram at

935
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Macangoo podcasts every their platform. We're Macamber stand good, it's

936
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:34.880
<v Speaker 2>mac Shift seven good. That includes Facebook's ttrit tuning, cast works,

937
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Google Play. We're at Spotify. More importantly, we're on Apple Podcasts.

938
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:42.320
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939
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:43.800
<v Speaker 2>do that, we'll get your free Mac and gooo tea

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00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Tepublic dot com check us out at the end of

944
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the week. So I guess if we both finished Agatha,

945
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 1>we should do that.

946
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.360
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the week, Okay, all right.

947
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>If we don't, we'll do a dump.

948
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we could do that. I do. I do enjoy

949
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:13.480
<v Speaker 2>doing the dumps for the Monday coming off the weekend.

950
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 1>I do too.

951
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Speaker 2>But if you don't finish Agatha, we can, we can push.

952
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:18.599
<v Speaker 1>I'll power through it. I'll do it.

953
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm definitely gonna fetch it.

954
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm sorry, you bro I'm sorry. All right, So

955
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll do that.

956
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Then I think there's gonna be like a pretty big reveal.

957
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Well maybe we already had one, but I feel like

958
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 2>this two episode finale. By the way, it's a two

959
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:38.840
<v Speaker 2>episode finale this week for anyone listening, I think we're

960
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:40.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna get like a pretty cool reveal.

961
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>No, I have a sneaking suspicion that the finale of

962
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 1>this show is gonna be people throwing lights at each other.

963
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>That's usually what ends up as magic.

964
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:55.960
<v Speaker 2>That's magic, baby, that's magic. You know I got the

965
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 2>magic stick?

966
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:02.760
<v Speaker 1>How many songs? What magic can we do? Those are

967
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the only two I know.

968
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I actually had magic stick until you sang that one.

969
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.800
<v Speaker 1>There's definitely more songs. I'll give magic six point seven

970
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>songs about magic.

971
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Ooh, witchy woman, there.

972
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>You go, Magic carpet ride. Yeah, you can do magic

973
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:27.280
<v Speaker 1>by you from the ground, black magic woman, Oh, great one.

974
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:30.159
<v Speaker 1>That's a great one. Puff the Magic Dragon, which I

975
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:33.800
<v Speaker 1>figured I found out it's about smoking marijuana. Come on,

976
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:40.239
<v Speaker 1>A kind of magic? By who a kind of magic?

977
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 1>It's their titular song, Abracadabra by Abracadabra. All right, you

978
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>know that song Abrabra? No, that's the Steve Miller band.

979
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:56.719
<v Speaker 2>We talk a pokemon Now get in my b That's

980
00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 2>all I got.

981
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Bad pretty good magic stick magic, bus range magic. Do

982
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you believe in magic? All the magic? This magic moment?

983
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:05.440
<v Speaker 1>We know that one.

984
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>So it's not listing Witchy Woman though, it's about witches.

985
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Riannon from Flee Mac.

986
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Witch.

987
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Now, so hold up, so you like Fleetwood Mac love

988
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Fleetwood Mac. It's telling me here that Rhiannon is about magic.

989
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Rhiannon same thing that would that would be? Uh, yeah,

990
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:26.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe it is. I don't know.

991
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>All right.

992
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.039
<v Speaker 2>The Eagles sing Witchy Woman.

993
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:32.679
<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on, come on, Mac. You like music,

994
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 1>don't you.

995
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I saw the Eagles, but uh, did you realize Glenn

996
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Fry was already dead? So it was his son instead?

997
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Jeff for a Red Sox great for red Sock and

998
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Blue Jay great and Phillies. Maybe Rangers hit for.

999
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>The cycle for the blue Jays so hard?

1000
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:50.079
<v Speaker 2>No?

1001
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Is that what the socks? No? You know what happened.

1002
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>He hit a home run triple double and his final

1003
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 1>at BT could have hit a single but instead went

1004
00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 1>for two.

1005
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the thing you should do.

1006
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, you want a meaningless cycle. You want that

1007
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:07.559
<v Speaker 1>brock Holt status.

1008
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, all right.

1009
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Whatever Tuesdays or Goose days. I have used Kangaroos by Burton.

1010
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue

1011
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.519
<v Speaker 1>the adventure. Now it's not for girls jumping on trampolines.