Speaker 1: I mean this in the nicest possible way. Mac, you
Speaker 1: look like someone that for Halloween at one point in
Speaker 1: your life went as a guynecologist, so or a federal
Speaker 1: body inspector. I'm sorry, a female body inspector.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah I never did. Really, you know me,
Speaker 2: gu Almost every Halloween costume I've ever worn in my
Speaker 2: adult life has all been as convenient as could possibly be.
Speaker 2: I'm not wearing some outlandish type of shit. The most
Speaker 2: outlandist thing I wore I was a kissing booth my
Speaker 2: junior year of college. But I didn't make it. Some
Speaker 2: girl volunteered. She had the idea. She said, if I
Speaker 2: make this, will you wear I said, absolutely, no doubt
Speaker 2: about it, So that worked out pretty well.
Speaker 1: The kissing booth is not that far off from the
Speaker 1: better of the female body inspector, though, right, it's more creative.
Speaker 2: Though the kissing booth, no, I wasn't my creativity. I
Speaker 2: just benefited from it. One good three yeah jos three,
Speaker 2: King of Queen and.
Speaker 1: Marl Street.
Speaker 2: Entertainment that tooks so long, That tooks so long for you.
Speaker 2: I'm Mac, and we are the Magic Program. We're friends,
Speaker 2: we are venom. If you are listening, to this and
Speaker 2: don't have access to anything with a screen on it.
Speaker 2: You just spent about thirty five seconds struggling with some
Speaker 2: sort of sweatshirt.
Speaker 1: Deal spandex to full spandex suit.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, and he had a venom face there for
Speaker 2: a second and did an a plus tom hardy venom impression.
Speaker 1: A venom A symbotes just jumped into my skeleton and
Speaker 1: turned me into a venom.
Speaker 2: Now here's a good question for you and the folks
Speaker 2: at home. If you had to be any color, Simbaio,
Speaker 2: which color would you be?
Speaker 1: I mean, black is the sleekest, Maybe red.
Speaker 2: I didn't mind. I didn't mind, like the greyist looking
Speaker 2: one that we maybe or maybe didn't see in this
Speaker 2: movie Go. You know, I'm a sucker for gray.
Speaker 1: I know when I do Mario Kart and I pick Yoshi,
Speaker 1: I always do black and white Yoshi, nice little Oreo Yoshi.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, yeah, I guess. I guess black is
Speaker 2: probably the most popular answer. But maybe red for carnage too,
Speaker 2: who knows?
Speaker 1: There you also, I had that costume. I don't I
Speaker 1: used to go as a character for my nephew's birthday
Speaker 1: every year, and then for his seventh or eighth birthday
Speaker 1: when I wore the Venom costume, him and his friends
Speaker 1: hit me with hockey sticks and that was the end
Speaker 1: of that chapter.
Speaker 2: You got pumped.
Speaker 1: It was all a big Ashton Kutcher prank.
Speaker 2: Go. Yes, today we are discussing the latest and not
Speaker 2: so greatest entry into the Sony Spider Verse, the Venom verse,
Speaker 2: whatever you'd like to call this this movie universe. Of course,
Speaker 2: we were discussing Venom the Last Dance, which I must
Speaker 2: say is a terrible name for this movie. I really
Speaker 2: didn't care for it, and they also leaned into that
Speaker 2: a couple times, which I didn't care for.
Speaker 1: How did they get none of the Chicago bulls in
Speaker 1: this movie?
Speaker 2: You should have been able to get Rodman in because they.
Speaker 1: They're in Vegas for a scene or two of this movie.
Speaker 1: How is Rodman not in the background or okay, what's
Speaker 1: the character's name? He dances with her in Vegas?
Speaker 2: Missus Chen, missus Chen.
Speaker 1: Rodman should have walked out of the bedroom half naked
Speaker 1: as if they had just made love.
Speaker 2: That that scene alone would have bumped this movie up
Speaker 2: about five dogs.
Speaker 1: All right, So we just fixed it. Do you think
Speaker 1: they should reshoot it? And then re release it goo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this movie made one hundred and seventy five million
Speaker 2: dollars worldwide box office opening weekend, fifty one million domestically,
Speaker 2: which isn't great comparatively, but still pretty good in general.
Speaker 2: And this movie was made on a budget of one
Speaker 2: hundred and two million, which is pretty low when you're
Speaker 2: comparing it to a lot of recent superhero comic book movies,
Speaker 2: So this movie is gonna end up making money in
Speaker 2: an aduced amount. The first movie made eight hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty six million worldwide, very very successful. The second one
Speaker 2: did not do nearly as well five hundred and six
Speaker 2: million worldwide, but still made money.
Speaker 1: That was also Venom two was one of the first
Speaker 1: big theater movies out of the pandemic, so Venom two
Speaker 1: is the reason why Top Gun two was so good.
Speaker 2: There you Go, There you Go. This movie is unfortunately
Speaker 2: PG thirteen. Like the first two, it is an action adventure,
Speaker 2: sci fi and thriller, and also the sub genres we
Speaker 2: get here go, alien invasion, Kaiju, road trip, and superhero
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an alien buddy movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, alien buddy cup.
Speaker 1: That's also you could tell from the get go that
Speaker 1: this movie wanted to be rated R. This movie wanted
Speaker 1: to be Deadpool, but it couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they had the makers of the
Speaker 2: movie capable of making this a proper R. But this
Speaker 2: is a sentiment we've echoed through the first two movies.
Speaker 2: These a Venom movies should be an R rated movie.
Speaker 2: Just simple is that, if not even for the jokey jokies,
Speaker 2: just the blood, the gore, like that type of shit,
Speaker 2: we should have an R rating. It would just be cooler.
Speaker 2: Go on, roddy tease. This has thirty eight percent it.
Speaker 1: Was rated R. Do you think Tom Hardy would shave
Speaker 1: swears into his head?
Speaker 2: Probably? Yeah, that'd be a pretty cool, steep, big sea
Speaker 2: bomb on the side of his head there.
Speaker 1: That'd be tough for the commercials.
Speaker 2: Thirty eight percent from the critics, eighty percent from the audience. Uh,
Speaker 2: virtually identical to the first movie, which had thirty and
Speaker 2: eighty percent. The second movie somehow scored higher than both
Speaker 2: of these two and the second movie Goo. Before we
Speaker 2: get into spoilers here, I think is definitively the worst
Speaker 2: movie of the three.
Speaker 1: And I think that is all on the back of
Speaker 1: Woody Harrelson fair enough.
Speaker 2: That is fifty seven percent and eighty four percent, So
Speaker 2: maybe that speaks to the thirst for that movie at
Speaker 2: the time, time and place.
Speaker 1: It's saved movies, it's save cinemas. I get it.
Speaker 2: On Metacritic, this has a forty one the first and
Speaker 2: a thirty five Carnage and a forty nine. I don't
Speaker 2: know where people are coming off with that second movie.
Speaker 1: It's really but I do understand why people do not
Speaker 1: like this one.
Speaker 2: Sure, I think we understand why people. Well, first of all,
Speaker 2: the audience has liked all three movies. I think we
Speaker 2: whole hardly understand why the critics haven't really liked any
Speaker 2: of these.
Speaker 1: A good portion of this movie is half assed generic gobbledegook,
Speaker 1: where it just looks like slime all over the screen.
Speaker 2: You're not entirely wrong, don't. I don't disagree with that. Goo.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the makers of this movie, this is written
Speaker 2: by Kelly Marcel and Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy's only writing
Speaker 2: credits or This and Let There Be Carnage. Kelly Marcel
Speaker 2: Goo has writing credits on Saving Mister Binks, fifty Stage
Speaker 2: of Gray, and then the first two Venom movies. This
Speaker 2: is directed by Kelly Marcel.
Speaker 1: Great portfolio, I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2: Very bizarre. This is her first ever directing credit. You're asking,
Speaker 2: maybe where did she come from? I got a nice
Speaker 2: little fun fact for you here.
Speaker 1: I'm all ears.
Speaker 2: She is a co artistic director of the Bad Dog
Speaker 2: Theater Company, founded in twenty ten alongside Tom Hardy and
Speaker 2: Brett C. Leonard. So she's been a long time Tom
Speaker 2: Hardy friends, that's how she got to where she's at
Speaker 2: for this movie. But a nice little fun fact about
Speaker 2: her ago separate from where she came ahead. This is
Speaker 2: my favorite fun fact of the whole podcast. So after
Speaker 2: this you can you can shut us off. Kelly is
Speaker 2: primarily a writer for film and television, but she started
Speaker 2: her career in musical theater with the UK version of
Speaker 2: Debbie Does Dallas the musical.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: I like? Kelly Marcel based off that one fact and
Speaker 2: then that one fact alone, Kelly Marcel thumbs up, thumbs goose.
Speaker 2: Synopsis of Venom The Last Dance, Eddie and Venom on
Speaker 2: the Run face pursuit from both worlds. As circumstances Titan,
Speaker 2: they're compelled to make a heart wrenching choice that could
Speaker 2: mark the end of their symbiotic partnership. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: I guess that's actually pretty accurate.
Speaker 1: After watching this movie, I also said to myself, the
Speaker 1: trailers really didn't tell us anything. It's Venom, it's Tom Hardy,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna jump into animals.
Speaker 2: It was just Venom with jazz fingers kinda here he is, Yeah,
Speaker 2: well he was in Vegas. I hated that fucking scene.
Speaker 2: This movie stars Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock, and through
Speaker 2: three movies. Other than Michelle Williams of the first movie,
Speaker 2: I would say that Tom Hardy is the only bright
Speaker 2: spot in this trilogy.
Speaker 1: He's still sweating, he's still mumbling, He's not that coherent.
Speaker 1: But you know what I will say this is that
Speaker 1: Eddie Brock Venom, the twenty to twenty five minutes of
Speaker 1: them just doing a buddy road trip. If you gave
Speaker 1: me a full movie of that, I might have enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Eh, was it for me?
Speaker 1: That was fun and silly. It was lighthearted.
Speaker 2: She would tell Edgie of four as General Rex Strickland,
Speaker 2: we've seen him a number of times now over over
Speaker 2: the years in comic book movies. If he's he's fine
Speaker 2: in this he's he.
Speaker 1: Does what he's a generic army leader.
Speaker 2: Yeah, angry general in the army. That's he played it
Speaker 2: to a t.
Speaker 1: He took five of the men.
Speaker 2: Judo Temple. Also not her first time in a comic
Speaker 2: book movie. She's in the Dark Knight. We all remember
Speaker 2: her in The Dark Knight. Of course, she plays doctor
Speaker 2: Teddy Payne in this. Rhys Eifensku is in this as Martin.
Speaker 2: He plays the father of a road tripping family. And
Speaker 2: I think this is bizarre casting considering he plays the
Speaker 2: lizard in the Andrew Garfield Spider Man universe, and it's
Speaker 2: there's still a chance that this Venom verse operates in
Speaker 2: that Garfield universe, and that's really really bizarre cast.
Speaker 1: Hear me out, None of this matters.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's probably true. Stephen Graham is back
Speaker 2: as Detective Mulligan. Peggy Loo's back as Missus. Chen Clark
Speaker 2: Baco plays Sadie. She's the scientist with the Christmas Tree.
Speaker 2: A lot of you back as Nova. She's the mother
Speaker 2: Terese Iphens's father. You would know her as the gross
Speaker 2: waitress from Waiting or as Sidney Sweeney's mother in Euphoria.
Speaker 2: Christal Fernandez is back. He's Danny Rojas Goo as the
Speaker 2: bartender in the tropical bar that we see Eddie Brock in.
Speaker 2: And of course this movie introduces Null, who is green
Speaker 2: screened by Andy Serkis because apparently he's the only guy
Speaker 2: that does that goo. When you saw this movie, you've
Speaker 2: been sitting on it for about six days. Now, what
Speaker 2: was your rapper reaction and what has changed since number one?
Speaker 1: You just mentioned Null. He looks like trash.
Speaker 2: He does not look good.
Speaker 1: He looks terrible. And it's good that they only had
Speaker 1: him in roughly three scenes. We didn't need any more.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even sure what. There's no bad guys
Speaker 1: in this movie. It's just these alien dog creatures. It's
Speaker 1: it's a faceless bad guy that it's just fodder and
Speaker 1: it can't be destroyed, and it's just constant blasting and whatever.
Speaker 1: It felt a lot like when you're watching the action
Speaker 1: in Black Adam and you knew that nothing could hurt
Speaker 1: any of those heroes. That's what all of the fights
Speaker 1: were like in this movie, between the venoms and the
Speaker 1: alien dog creatures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the alien dog creatures had that wood chipper
Speaker 2: in the back of it, said that could hurt the.
Speaker 1: Venoms, right, But did it?
Speaker 2: He got a couple of them. I think, Were.
Speaker 1: They any venoms that we actually cared about? No, not
Speaker 1: really any, And there were a bunch of others.
Speaker 2: And you and I don't know enough about the venoms
Speaker 2: to speak on whether they're meaningful or not. We'll get
Speaker 2: we'll get into that more later. Goo. In regards to Null,
Speaker 2: so apparently in the in the Marvel comic book universe,
Speaker 2: Null operates in the void. And we've seen the void now,
Speaker 2: we saw it in Deadpool and Wolverine. In this instance,
Speaker 2: he is stuck in this world or prison known as
Speaker 2: Clintar and he was he's stuck there by the symbiotes.
Speaker 2: And that's sort of the whole impetus for the plot
Speaker 2: of this movie. And like that's okay, But that thing
Speaker 2: we've seen a thousand times over in every Marvel and
Speaker 2: DC movie too, Like Big Bad off World sends his
Speaker 2: like his shitty fucking attackers to Earth to try to
Speaker 2: do the dirty work, and then they're gonna have to
Speaker 2: come and do it themselves. We've seen that way too
Speaker 2: many times to refresh people's memories here for this movie,
Speaker 2: of course, we saw riot in the first movie. He
Speaker 2: was the big bad at the end of that carnage
Speaker 2: in the second, and these movies all three take place
Speaker 2: roughly over one year. That alien dog race that that
Speaker 2: Goo and I were talking about is called zenophages. I
Speaker 2: guess we just rip it off all the time.
Speaker 1: Now credit to this movie. Venom didn't just fight another
Speaker 1: pile of splooge.
Speaker 2: Okay, true, they really swear us here kind of And again,
Speaker 2: the essentially the premise of this movie is that Null
Speaker 2: is trapped in this prison and in order to escape
Speaker 2: this imprisonment imprisonment, he needs to find a codex, and
Speaker 2: the only way places you can find a codex is
Speaker 2: in the bodies of a symbiote that has become one
Speaker 2: which is with its host, and that only happens when
Speaker 2: the host dies and the symbiote saves it fusing their souls.
Speaker 2: So Aka, Eddie and Venom have a codex. These alien
Speaker 2: dog races come after them after Null dispatches them. But
Speaker 2: I this brings into question everything about Null, because if
Speaker 2: he can just pop open a portal with a snap
Speaker 2: of a finger, he really should be able to get
Speaker 2: out of that prison. Right.
Speaker 1: A lot of like the I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into like the spoilers. We can talk about that in
Speaker 1: a second at the end of mid post credits, but
Speaker 1: like just the end of the movie, the end of
Speaker 1: that character is just so stupid because also, like, what
Speaker 1: are the plans for this universe? Are we just gonna
Speaker 1: leave it at this and I guess Nel's gonna take
Speaker 1: over type of stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a great question. We're also operating
Speaker 2: in this movie with Area fifty one. It's being decommissioned,
Speaker 2: but they introduced something else, Area fifty five, which is
Speaker 2: alive and well and like one hundred feet below Area
Speaker 2: fifty one, so that's a thing as well.
Speaker 1: I prefer Area sixty five where Eiffel reign supreme.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was the joke. Didn't make any sense, but
Speaker 2: I understood what you were going for.
Speaker 1: If you take what I just said, chop it up
Speaker 1: a little bit and mix the words around, it kind
Speaker 1: of makes sense.
Speaker 2: There's something there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna work shop it for a while.
Speaker 1: You can talk for the next half hour.
Speaker 2: Would you like to get into the octagon here?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that that we cut some of these soon
Speaker 1: because some of them are.
Speaker 2: Only have eight. We only have eight listed here, so
Speaker 2: you cut something.
Speaker 1: No hot dogs? No, oh no, you're right. Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: think of it on the fly. Fun factor, and I
Speaker 1: think you and I had fun with different parts of
Speaker 1: this movie. I enjoyed the alien and his buddy going
Speaker 1: across the country. I would have liked it if it
Speaker 1: was just them going from Mexico to New York and
Speaker 1: ending up at like the Statue of Liberty, going from
Speaker 1: city to city and doing it that way. But what
Speaker 1: we got was about fifteen to twenty minutes of that
Speaker 1: the high jinks, and then the rest of it is
Speaker 1: just this boring garbage area fifty five stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's movies not that fun. It's not. However, the
Speaker 2: Eddie and bra are the Eddie and Venom stuff is
Speaker 2: like inherently kind of fun, and you still obviously still
Speaker 2: get that in this movie. So is not fun. As
Speaker 2: this movie was, it was fun enough to like keep
Speaker 2: me somewhat locked in during the run time, Like I
Speaker 2: wasn't I didn't hate myself at the end of this movie,
Speaker 2: Like I wasn't. I wasn't I wasn't smashing my head
Speaker 2: off the seat in front of me. Like it was
Speaker 2: watchable right.
Speaker 1: But I think as soon as we get into that
Speaker 1: final scene at area fifty five, that is just stop.
Speaker 1: The entire movie stopped for me, and it just went
Speaker 1: on forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I liked, you know, all the powers being shown.
Speaker 1: I didn't really like it because they I thought it
Speaker 1: was boring.
Speaker 2: Well, you just you just you just don't have a
Speaker 2: good imagining.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll do imagination. They show you everything. There's
Speaker 1: nothing for imagination. It's not like they're like if they
Speaker 1: they cut to Juno on the sideline going that one's green,
Speaker 1: and now they have clause.
Speaker 2: She's narrating the final fight right the theater of the mind.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll do borometer.
Speaker 2: First.
Speaker 1: I was very bored in this.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. I didn't find myself off that
Speaker 2: board it's tied into. I just think Tom Hardy is
Speaker 2: really good always, and so I wasn't that bored. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying I had fun or and really enjoyed necessarily
Speaker 2: was on screen. I just wasn't bored, if that makes.
Speaker 1: But that on the movie poster. I wasn't bored coma.
Speaker 1: It's not like I had.
Speaker 2: But I was distracted the whole movie. One way or
Speaker 2: the other.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go back to Satisfactor. And this is supposed
Speaker 1: to be the final of a trilogy, and they really
Speaker 1: went out of their way to try and make this satisfactory,
Speaker 1: and by the end of the movie, I was the opposite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's really nothing to be satisfied now about at
Speaker 2: the conclusion of this movie. And it's one of those
Speaker 2: things where at the end of this trilogy, we're sitting
Speaker 2: here thinking, it's been six years, you know, six year run.
Speaker 2: Venom was came out in twenty eight. Now, did we
Speaker 2: really need to do this? No?
Speaker 1: I think you know what not to get poly charged here. Okay,
Speaker 1: but if either of the presidential candidates made it a rule,
Speaker 1: made of a law that you can't put mid in
Speaker 1: post credit scenes in there just to be silly, I
Speaker 1: would vote for them. Post credit and mid credits need
Speaker 1: to have a purpose. Again, it's not funny. It's not
Speaker 1: funny any.
Speaker 2: Mad movie to make that point with These are both purposeful.
Speaker 2: Whether you like where it's going or not.
Speaker 1: Were they truly purposeful? Yeah, you got an I'll do
Speaker 1: it myself and you got come on spoilers, man, look man,
Speaker 1: just put everything Because also these were the longest credits
Speaker 1: in the world. These were I sat around for roughly
Speaker 1: ten minutes waiting for the complete post credit. I know
Speaker 1: who got Tom Hardy as coffee, and I'm very excited
Speaker 1: to know everyone's names, but I am so sick of
Speaker 1: the post credit stuff. Put it in the run time.
Speaker 2: Well, let's it's er your ten minutes to decompress and
Speaker 2: start taking notes into notes out. That's really what I
Speaker 2: use it for.
Speaker 1: No, you know what I did. I'm I made fun
Speaker 1: of Juno and her stupid character. That's what I do
Speaker 1: with my ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Started to started a tight five on Juno Temple. Oh
Speaker 2: my arm? Does it work?
Speaker 1: I hope I get venom.
Speaker 2: Let me see you get struck by lightning. See how
Speaker 2: you look at Let me see.
Speaker 1: You hold your brother's hand while being struck by lightning
Speaker 1: and then he gets exploded, and then you have to
Speaker 1: live with the guilt and a dead arm. Oh you
Speaker 1: know what, I bet you would love that Constant Strangers.
Speaker 2: You can figure out an attachment there. You know, probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't have a good grip.
Speaker 1: Dead weight A quarter worlds. This is below water World.
Speaker 2: Uh, this is below water World and below Aquaman.
Speaker 1: It really is it's not as bad as hell.
Speaker 2: Boy, m no, it' stop stop. I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: not even as bad as the second movie.
Speaker 1: I just think that this was this all felt so
Speaker 1: lazy and like none of it really Like, at least
Speaker 1: with the second one, you have those like scenes of
Speaker 1: Eddie and Venom going out and causing chaos. This one
Speaker 1: you had a little bit of that, but it was
Speaker 1: like it was pulled back. There wasn't as much.
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true, But again, when you're when you're
Speaker 2: in your third movie in and you're still not able
Speaker 2: to use certain things because you're stuck in your own
Speaker 2: little corner of the universe, You're just like, what else
Speaker 2: are you gonna do besides introduce all these venoms?
Speaker 1: I also liked in the first scene or the second scene.
Speaker 1: I don't know how scenes work, but when Venom made
Speaker 1: a point of making a joke cut out the multiverse. Shit,
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, we've done this joke in every movie
Speaker 1: the past three years, the exact same joke.
Speaker 2: So you're saying, the Type five you have Juno Temple
Speaker 2: is funnier than that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's got that dead arm. I just did that.
Speaker 1: Sweet stranger joke. You guys all heard my set right
Speaker 1: pants tensity excite bike mania. Did anything in this movie
Speaker 1: get you going?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Did you like this movie? I can't even tell. You
Speaker 1: keep talking it up and then like walking it back.
Speaker 2: I was hoping for a little new de tay from
Speaker 2: Juno Tepla.
Speaker 1: Didn't get that, you knew you weren't getting that.
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily know that, I figured.
Speaker 1: And then Max like it, wouldn't mind trimming her Christmas tree.
Speaker 2: And then even I can get her one of those uh,
Speaker 2: one of those ornaments from Target. Yeah. No, there's really
Speaker 2: nothing to excite you in this In this one.
Speaker 1: For a movie that you are so met on, you
Speaker 1: are just defending it, NonStop, defend all. You are defending
Speaker 1: it like a Madman Halloween. I will never think of
Speaker 1: this movie ever again. I don't think I even think
Speaker 1: of this series ever again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty forgettable movie, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Like the Venom movies are supposed to serve as a
Speaker 1: palate cleanser, or like the one off that isn't connected
Speaker 1: to anything else. For the people that don't like the
Speaker 1: tie in with the mcu and they don't like the
Speaker 1: running story of the forty movies coming together, and this
Speaker 1: movie is just it's not interesting.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. But there is the possibility that.
Speaker 1: It's a part of Garfield or tobym wers Null here.
Speaker 2: And maybe null does matter at some point.
Speaker 1: And yeah, because you heard that Null and other symbiodes
Speaker 1: might be a part of the Tom Holland for movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all sorts of chatter and shit. But so
Speaker 2: in that respect, I guess it could become more significant
Speaker 2: than it is at the moment. But do we want
Speaker 2: it to know?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if they actually renamed the Spider Man
Speaker 1: movies Tom Holland instead, But then you can still let
Speaker 1: him be Spider Man. It's just that now it's called
Speaker 1: Tom Holland, and it would let us know who Spider
Speaker 1: Man is in the movie.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, no doubt.
Speaker 1: What else we got? Max credit? Union? Do you have
Speaker 1: credit for anyone besides the director? Actually just give her.
Speaker 2: I'll give her credit for the Debbie does Dallas musical.
Speaker 2: You know what, No, you know, I'll save this for
Speaker 2: the next thing. I won't give credit to the person
Speaker 2: there's other than Tom hardy. There's no real credit to me.
Speaker 1: I'm about plemonade. When life gives you lemons or plemons plemonade.
Speaker 2: I think Greese Iphen's kind of made plemonade. His family
Speaker 2: and his characters should have never been in this movie.
Speaker 2: But Reese Iphen's kind of had fun, and I kind
Speaker 2: of had fun with him.
Speaker 1: Did you like the line aliens suck?
Speaker 2: Because his whole life, you know, has been building towards this,
Speaker 2: and he was like, fuck that. Oh, we gotta swear
Speaker 2: in this movie. We got a motherfucker in this movie.
Speaker 1: I've always said to you, while I believe that aliens
Speaker 1: are real and everything that goes along with that, I
Speaker 1: never want to meet one. Never.
Speaker 2: Oh. I here's where I stand on the aliens thing. Clearly,
Speaker 2: aliens exist. I don't think we're ever gonna see an alien,
Speaker 2: but the universe is too large for aliens to not exist.
Speaker 2: I could be further away on the ghost front, I don't.
Speaker 1: I guess the question now is do you believe that
Speaker 1: there are already aliens among us?
Speaker 2: No? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Maybe they are as human beings.
Speaker 2: Aliens want to live on this planet.
Speaker 1: Have you seen a platypus? Have you seen half of
Speaker 1: the creatures in Australia, they might be aliens.
Speaker 2: The only thing this planet could possibly offer aliens is
Speaker 2: a litany of pornography. It's it. But would you want
Speaker 2: to watch pornography of a species that's not yours?
Speaker 1: I guess we can test it out. Okay, do you
Speaker 1: believe in a us os as opposed to flying objects?
Speaker 1: They're submerged.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to rule it out. The ocean is vast,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of ocean. Yeah, as we've seen though,
Speaker 2: you can only go so deep before a ship is
Speaker 2: going to implode. So there's only so many hiding spots.
Speaker 1: Well, what about alien technology?
Speaker 2: You're right, you're right, But is alien technology? Well, so
Speaker 2: here's a question. I'm questions for someone brighter than the
Speaker 2: both of us. Yeah, are is the vacuum and the
Speaker 2: pressures of space greater than or less than the bottom
Speaker 2: of the ocean?
Speaker 1: I would like one of our scientist listeners to please
Speaker 1: reach out to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's got to be an answer to that somewhere.
Speaker 1: Is that all the things? I guess we're on hot dogs?
Speaker 2: Huh we are? We have reached the reach the hot dogs.
Speaker 1: For those of you tardy to the Mac and Goo Party.
Speaker 1: We rate everything on a forty hot dog rating scale.
Speaker 1: While I don't think this is the worst of the trilogy,
Speaker 1: I still I hate the second one, and I understand
Speaker 1: that the second one might have higher highs than this
Speaker 1: movie does. But Woody Harrelson in that movie is just
Speaker 1: an abomination to my eyes and ears. The end of
Speaker 1: the movie too. I hated that. But the end of
Speaker 1: this movie is not good either. I enjoyed our twenty
Speaker 1: to twenty five minutes of our Buddy Alien road Trip.
Speaker 1: I would have loved an entire movie of that. We
Speaker 1: did not get that. I thought that every side character,
Speaker 1: every other starring character in this movie was completely useless
Speaker 1: and generic. The story in general was pretty useless and generic.
Speaker 1: It was a let's look for a key. It happens
Speaker 1: to be in this character that they can hide the
Speaker 1: key if they do a certain thing, which by the
Speaker 1: end of the movie, the reason why they would still
Speaker 1: do this thing didn't even really make any sense. At
Speaker 1: certain points. I didn't like how they got to the base.
Speaker 1: I didn't like anything at the base. I didn't like
Speaker 1: the enemy. I did not like the villain. Eighteen hot dogs.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, uh to give the folks some perspective here.
Speaker 1: You should have given me perspective before I just did
Speaker 1: my little thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna, but you were you were, you were,
Speaker 2: you were vibing there, you were rolling.
Speaker 1: You saw me turning the key, and you're like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to give.
Speaker 2: Him a false start reving the engine here.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to have a bock.
Speaker 2: The first movie I gave thirty, you gave twenty seven. Yeah.
Speaker 2: In our podcast for the second movie, you wreckcon you're
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty three makes sense. I agree. It
Speaker 2: probably came down a couple For me. I'd probably be
Speaker 2: at twenty seven or twenty eight on them.
Speaker 1: I'd probably say twenty four to twenty five. But go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm very sorry.
Speaker 2: Okay. So, so you've got up one or two the
Speaker 2: first one, yeah, the second movie I gave twenty four.
Speaker 2: Initially you gave eighteen. I think you're probably spot on
Speaker 2: with the eighteen. On the second one. I've I've got
Speaker 2: to come down substantially from that second one. I just
Speaker 2: the more I think, the more I've thought about the
Speaker 2: second one in the years past, just really didn't enjoy it,
Speaker 2: and giving a twenty four I didn't enjoy it in
Speaker 2: the first one.
Speaker 1: The first one deserves more credit now seeing what we've
Speaker 1: gotten with the last two movies, that that was the
Speaker 1: best case scenario.
Speaker 2: I totally agree this movie. Gu I gotta say, as
Speaker 2: not good as this movie is, it didn't feel like
Speaker 2: a task to watch, and I think that's exclusively because
Speaker 2: of Hardy. I do like the number of like power
Speaker 2: sets in symbiotes we see in this movie. I guess
Speaker 2: that's cool. However, once again, I'm.
Speaker 1: Just so middling on all of your praise. I guess
Speaker 1: that's cool.
Speaker 2: I don't understand the whole null imprisonment thing. Like again,
Speaker 2: that makes no sense to me. If he can create
Speaker 2: these portals, I don't think.
Speaker 1: Do you think he was fake in jail, like he
Speaker 1: wasn't even tied up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't really get.
Speaker 1: Guys, I can't get up in these scratches his head.
Speaker 2: The conversation with the little kid in the van is
Speaker 2: possibly the worst scene in any movie this year. That
Speaker 2: was really fucking bad. That was that was terrible, really
Speaker 2: incredibly stupid. Uh yeah, kid, ilions aren't well. And then
Speaker 2: the kid just lays down on this fucking street.
Speaker 1: To him, yet he could be a good dad.
Speaker 2: Uh again, I'll echo the sentiment about this not being
Speaker 2: our that hurts it. That family being added in general
Speaker 2: is so fucking stupid. And this is always one of
Speaker 2: our major complaints with movies, these Kaiju movies and these
Speaker 2: big monster movies. We don't need bullshit families added strictly
Speaker 2: to give us some like emotional attachment. No one wants it,
Speaker 2: no one asks for it. It does not make the movie better.
Speaker 2: It's just it's dumb, dude. This movie feels like a
Speaker 2: really poor version of the two thousand and seven Transformers movie.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of the same notes are hit. You're
Speaker 2: dealing with a lot of the same themes. However, that
Speaker 2: was two thousand and seven and it had two thousand
Speaker 2: and seven Megan Fox seventeen years later, that movie, especially
Speaker 2: with Hew Megan Fox, does not hit. Does not work.
Speaker 2: And like, there's also nothing in here to like invoke
Speaker 2: the satisfying stuff that's in movie like Transformers or the
Speaker 2: nostalgia or anything like that to prey upon. There's nothing
Speaker 2: like that in here. So I have this at twenty one.
Speaker 2: Hot Dogs Cool. It's my number twenty six movie on
Speaker 2: the year. I think I've seen thirty two, So again,
Speaker 2: there are definitively worse movies so far this year for me.
Speaker 2: But again, it's not good. It just lacks a punch.
Speaker 2: But it also could have been a lot worse. So
Speaker 2: I've come back and forth. This could have been a
Speaker 2: lot worse. It lacks a punch. I don't I didn't
Speaker 2: hate myself for watching this movie. That's that's that's my
Speaker 2: thoughts on this movie.
Speaker 1: I have this movie bottom eight on the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bottom seven for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I saw recently? What trap?
Speaker 2: Did you like it?
Speaker 1: It never ends?
Speaker 2: I almost pulled I almost I almost started it the
Speaker 2: other day.
Speaker 1: Actually, I think that you because you really like, you know,
Speaker 1: movies following like how life is supposed to be, like
Speaker 1: the technicalities, especially with like police's work, FBI and all that.
Speaker 1: This movie is so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: When it comes to that, God damn it.
Speaker 1: I would argue that Josh Hartnett would have been found
Speaker 1: within the first three minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh well, now I gotta watch it. Okay, now I
Speaker 2: have to watch it.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna upset you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how many movies are up to by the way,
Speaker 2: thirty two? Oh so we both get thirty two. I
Speaker 2: would like to get to fifty once again. I think
Speaker 2: I should be able to get there by the end
Speaker 2: of the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what's coming out for the rest
Speaker 1: of the year, but we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: There is a handful that I've that I have been
Speaker 2: meaning to watch over the last couple of months, though,
Speaker 2: So I should get to forty with these.
Speaker 1: But you can put this on the trap poster carrot
Speaker 1: sign facing over Garfield.
Speaker 2: Okay, two movies I haven't seen, so.
Speaker 1: M night, Shyamalan. Put that in your pipe and smoke.
Speaker 2: It, Spilers, Spiler. So at the end of this movie,
Speaker 2: the big grand conclusion, Venom sacrifices himself the symbia Venom
Speaker 2: in order to destroy the Codex and all these sino phages.
Speaker 2: He like consumes them all and kills himself.
Speaker 1: With that sentence that you just said, if you didn't
Speaker 1: understand what was going on, you would think that you
Speaker 1: are a fucking lunatic.
Speaker 2: How did you feel about the emotional moment between Eddie
Speaker 2: and Venom at the end there?
Speaker 1: Zero? Okay, zero, I'll ask you, because you're you know,
Speaker 1: more into fire and whatnot. If you're just covered by
Speaker 1: a door, and that's obviously it's a very protective door.
Speaker 1: But would Eddie survive that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he could survive. I think he could survive.
Speaker 2: I think he'd be like severely concussed and like pretty injured.
Speaker 1: But I would argue that he's always severely concussed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's true, and he is hospitalized. So
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I.
Speaker 1: Guess if so, if you have one concussion, but you
Speaker 1: just keep getting concussions during that concussion, does it count
Speaker 1: as one concussion?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it never really ends. I think it's I
Speaker 2: think it's kind of like pooping, right, It's exactly like that.
Speaker 1: If you don't get up, it's one poop.
Speaker 2: It is exactly like.
Speaker 1: I thought that the Healey's storyline, Juno Temple is the
Speaker 1: scientist from the get go, by the way, but from
Speaker 1: the first scene with her, I was like, what are
Speaker 1: we doing? What is this scene in the Venom movie
Speaker 1: of these children running on the beach. One kid has
Speaker 1: struck my lightning, the other one's got a dead arm.
Speaker 2: It was a nightmare.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a nightmare. It actually happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess memory.
Speaker 1: But then that scene then rolls on into her going
Speaker 1: to area fifty one to area fifty five, and we
Speaker 1: that scene was so long, and they kept on flashing
Speaker 1: back and showing us more stuff like why should we
Speaker 1: care about this character? And then you know that she
Speaker 1: is either gonna be a bad guy by the end
Speaker 1: or she's gonna cure her arm with venom.
Speaker 2: Yes, she becomes agony in her sweet fucking purplish pink
Speaker 2: suit there with the hair.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Didn't make a move,
Speaker 1: but I was gonna ask you do you think that's
Speaker 1: the most attractive venom?
Speaker 2: For sure? Easily by far. Goot I raise you Judo
Speaker 2: Temple with the Christmas tree Lady, This fucking lady's character
Speaker 2: makes absolutely no sense the first two thirds of the movie.
Speaker 2: The way she's acting, so the way she's been written
Speaker 2: and directed is implying they're making it seem like she
Speaker 2: may kill Venom or Eddie to destroy the codex and
Speaker 2: save the world. What does she do instead? The complete
Speaker 2: fucking opposite.
Speaker 1: Who is she? John Carrey?
Speaker 2: She has? She takes the venom and saves Eddie with
Speaker 2: like that was so so bad?
Speaker 1: She want to take this of that sweet sweet venom?
Speaker 1: She just needed more.
Speaker 2: That character was the worst character in the movie. It
Speaker 2: was fucking terrible.
Speaker 1: I wish she morphed in it like an actual Christmas tree.
Speaker 2: Fucking Christmas Tree shop just didn't did work for me.
Speaker 1: But to be fair, though, Army General Guy all so terrible.
Speaker 1: All three of those characters were so boring and boring. Yes,
Speaker 1: but ye, so the scenes that Venom weren't in, and
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying those scenes are great, but the
Speaker 1: scenes that Venom and Eddie are not in are unwatchable.
Speaker 2: Let's speak it. Of those symbiotes in that final battle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mulligan.
Speaker 2: So at the end of the first or the second movie,
Speaker 2: he fuses with Toxin, which is Carnage's kid. But Toxin
Speaker 2: is traditionally like red, like Cartages, I think, and he's
Speaker 2: like Teal in this. I don't know if it's a
Speaker 2: new one or not, but maybe Toxin Juno Judoh Temple
Speaker 2: becomes Agony diffused with Agony. The Christmas Tree Lady gets
Speaker 2: with Lasher. Lasher's that cymbiote. Supposedly, all the other ones
Speaker 2: are not one hundred percent at least the Internet hasn't
Speaker 2: figured it out one hundred percent. We maybe saw Phage,
Speaker 2: maybe saw Scorn. We got that hybrid one screen might
Speaker 2: be the fiery one. I didn't really understand any of them.
Speaker 2: Some of them look cool, some of them didn't. The
Speaker 2: biggest miss here is in the comic School, General Strickland
Speaker 2: Rex Strickland becomes a t rex cymbia in the comics,
Speaker 2: and we didn't get that in this That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And then they showed us all of the animal venoms
Speaker 1: in the commercial and you're like, Okay, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a bunch in here. No, that's all of them, which
Speaker 1: then reminds me of Multiverse of Madness, where there's a
Speaker 1: couple multiverses, but we're lacking the madness.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, no, all the phone. We're comparing a movie
Speaker 2: that promised multiversal madness to a movie that had thirty
Speaker 2: seconds of a venom horse of van fish and venom.
Speaker 1: From a movie that promised us venom going into animals.
Speaker 2: It didn't promise us any of that. We just happened
Speaker 2: to see it. I think the major thing in this
Speaker 2: movie that makes no sense is we see this dude
Speaker 2: in a circular room who has all these screens, all
Speaker 2: this technology, and general Strickland can communicate with him, does
Speaker 2: communicate with him. This guy's in charge of General Strickland.
Speaker 2: He apparently runs this imperium program. We just never ever
Speaker 2: get any resolution or reveal with that character. He's just there,
Speaker 2: he exists. They don't go back to him. There's no
Speaker 2: mention of him. It's really fucking bizarre.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's in Wes Craven The Hunter?
Speaker 2: I just don't understand. Obviously. I'm sure this movie had
Speaker 2: some reshoots, or maybe there was something played that they
Speaker 2: had the next or maybe they're just setting him off
Speaker 2: for the future New rock Stars. Positive that this character
Speaker 2: could be Martin Lee aka mister Negative and if you
Speaker 2: don't know, miss a Negative. He's the villain in the
Speaker 2: first Spider Man game, which he's great, relatively new villain,
Speaker 2: but awesome in that game. And once I had that
Speaker 2: in my hand, I was like, you know what he
Speaker 2: could be? He might be, Well, we just will never know.
Speaker 2: We'll never have any idea if that's the case.
Speaker 1: Well, what if he's in the next Spider Man movie.
Speaker 1: That's the thing is that all these characters have the
Speaker 1: possibility of being in the next actual Spider Man movie.
Speaker 2: I suppose that that that could.
Speaker 1: All be also Craven the Hunter.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to see any of
Speaker 2: these these folks. In Craven, he's a lion Boy, which
Speaker 2: is the next movie up in this supposed universe. To
Speaker 2: the mid credits scene here, Yeah, Noah is free somehow
Speaker 2: the movie is set up and the whole point of
Speaker 2: the movie is that he needs a codex to be.
Speaker 1: Freed, and the codex is destroyed, the whole.
Speaker 2: Fucking point of the movie. And then apparently he's free
Speaker 2: because quote unquote, your champion has fallen. Your planets will
Speaker 2: be mine. The King of Black, the King in Black
Speaker 2: is awake. I will kill your world. Everyone will burn,
Speaker 2: and you will watch. Hold the phone once again, Hold
Speaker 2: two phones. Now you don't have a codex. You're not free, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: He's still trapped. It's not true.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe he had his fingers crossed behind his back
Speaker 1: because he actually he was not in he wasn't jailed.
Speaker 1: He was just sitting in a chair. So maybe he
Speaker 1: didn't want to do the work.
Speaker 2: He was just charging his phone. He had to wait
Speaker 2: till it was done before he could leave. The post
Speaker 2: credit is Danny Rojas's character emerges from the bunker area
Speaker 2: fifty five area fifty one area, and then we see
Speaker 2: a cockroach, which they of course reference earlier approaching that
Speaker 2: little symbia vial that was used by Juno Temple earlier
Speaker 2: in the movie. And there's still a little sparked there.
Speaker 2: So there's still some symbiotic material on planet Earth.
Speaker 1: Let's put it in the fucking movie. Don't make me
Speaker 1: sit through ten minutes of post credits for this, or
Speaker 1: just regular credits for the post credit. I'm done. I've
Speaker 1: had enough of the post credits. It's too much.
Speaker 2: I guess there's still symbiotes on Earth, maybe Mister Negatives
Speaker 2: in play, maybe Nules in play. Going forward, Surprisingly, this
Speaker 2: universe isn't dead. Of course, we're still getting Spider Man stuff,
Speaker 2: but the Sony Verse somehow still hasn't it. It may be,
Speaker 2: it may be very soon, but it's not dead yet.
Speaker 1: How much money do you think this movie needs to
Speaker 1: make for there to possibly be a fourth Venom movie?
Speaker 1: Maybe not within three years, but five or six years.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're getting another Venom movie. I think
Speaker 2: we could see Venom and other stuff. I don't think
Speaker 2: we're getting another Venom movie.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that the only way that we
Speaker 1: get Venom back, though, is if he's in a Spider
Speaker 1: Man movie, not in another Sony Pictures association with Spot
Speaker 1: with Marvel.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's also they've also gotten to the point
Speaker 2: if they're gonna pursue Venom in this universe. He's kind
Speaker 2: of a good guy now, so you can't have him
Speaker 2: do the Spider Man stuff.
Speaker 1: He's barely been an anti hero.
Speaker 2: He's just killing bad dudes. Yeah, that's all he's doing.
Speaker 1: So we're rooting for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can't put Hm up against Tom Allen
Speaker 2: because we're also gonna root for this character.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have a new Spider Man in what
Speaker 1: three or four years, and then we can just you
Speaker 1: and watch him with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. So.
Speaker 1: I have no other thoughts in this movie. I this
Speaker 1: is this was a real and what sucks is that,
Speaker 1: like when you go to a movie that you want
Speaker 1: to turn your brain off and just watch, you want
Speaker 1: it to be more entertaining than what we just saw.
Speaker 2: I totally agree on that front. Yes, that's it lacks entertainment,
Speaker 2: It lacks a punch.
Speaker 1: You made a great you know what I'm gonna hear,
Speaker 1: good job transform the first Transformers a perfect turn your
Speaker 1: brain off. Don't think here.
Speaker 2: Is this yeah exactly, that's not what this was. No,
Speaker 2: it's I think it tried to do a lot of
Speaker 2: that and it didn't get there. So to summarize again,
Speaker 2: first Venu movie, i'd probably give like twenty eight Currently,
Speaker 2: second one, I think I had to come all the
Speaker 2: way down to like eighteen. I think you were right
Speaker 2: about that. This one, I'd give about twenty one. So
Speaker 2: i'd rank them one three to two.
Speaker 1: Good. Let's get into Max and MAXAK could be anything.
Speaker 1: It could be a boat and Max. Since we are
Speaker 1: doing our dump at the end of the week, or
Speaker 1: maybe we're doing something else. We'll talk about that in
Speaker 1: one second, but I will point out that we just
Speaker 1: got our sixth episode of The Penguin on HBO, Max
Speaker 1: and Confirm, and we are just truck truck trucking.
Speaker 2: Along Beinguino Minuto.
Speaker 1: Mama Mia Miliati.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is Sylvia Gigante now formerly fell Cone. She
Speaker 2: has fully teamed up with uh what's his face there,
Speaker 2: Clancy Brown and they're coming after Oz.
Speaker 1: I saw a great tweet earlier. It was the still
Speaker 1: of Maroney, uh teaching her how to make that soup,
Speaker 1: and someone captioned it marone teaching her how to make
Speaker 1: a krabby Patty.
Speaker 2: Uh. Good, good, solid little cliffhanger. At the end of
Speaker 2: this episode, they're coming after Oz. They coming after Oz's Mommy,
Speaker 2: great Victor episode, Great Victor episode. Uh. Someone on the
Speaker 2: internet made a point, Yes, isn't Bruce Wayne's back cave
Speaker 2: connected to these tunnels that the penguin is now utilizing.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, and maybe the final episode in
Speaker 1: a post credit someone stumbles in there. I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: Just uh, picking up on the conversation that Oz Cobb's
Speaker 1: mom has been tossing out of us.
Speaker 2: It's fun to say os Cobb's mom she.
Speaker 1: Might commit suicide, and she might not even give them
Speaker 1: the satisfaction because she also wants her son to take
Speaker 1: that next step and kind of forget about her. Anyways.
Speaker 2: I think there's gonna have to be conflict between Victor
Speaker 2: and Oz, and I think something's gonna happen to his
Speaker 2: mom that he blames.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a little bit of that in there,
Speaker 1: because Victor was lying to the mom about the brothers.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so they're kind of setting that up. I
Speaker 2: really really loved the scene between Sophia and Oz's lady
Speaker 2: friend there her name escapes me. That was a great scene,
Speaker 2: very good scene.
Speaker 1: This show is top notch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to fully admit, though, we still need
Speaker 2: a really high high at some point in the show.
Speaker 2: I guess we don't need it, but for it to really.
Speaker 1: We've had some high highs with Sophie really.
Speaker 2: No, for it to really like stick out all time,
Speaker 2: we're gonna need a gigantic finish.
Speaker 1: You didn't like that scene where she was putting her
Speaker 1: clothes back on and then she untied the fella who
Speaker 1: had his pants off.
Speaker 2: Once again, two weeks in a row, I've been jealous
Speaker 2: of someone being tied up by Sophia. I've been thinking
Speaker 2: about that red dress from two episodes ago, sorry, yellow
Speaker 2: dress from two episodes ago all week one week long.
Speaker 1: So we have two more episodes of that, and we
Speaker 1: also have two more episodes.
Speaker 2: Of Oh hitch.
Speaker 1: A long boo I am. This last episode pushed me
Speaker 1: over the edge of just really I don't care, I
Speaker 1: just agree.
Speaker 2: I am enjoying it.
Speaker 1: I like Agatha. I liked her really much as a
Speaker 1: side character, and they've almost made her a side character
Speaker 1: to these really boring witches, and I don't care for witches.
Speaker 1: Although I will say the reveal at the end was
Speaker 1: a decent reveal and it opens up a lot of possibilities,
Speaker 1: not necessarily with this show, but Marvel in general.
Speaker 2: Totally agree. I'm very excited hopefully for that character to
Speaker 2: pop up in things going forward. And I'm actually glad
Speaker 2: that Agtha is kind of a side character because she
Speaker 2: shouldn't be a main character. So where they're going with
Speaker 2: the story, I enjoy. I like it.
Speaker 1: Do you like the other characters? Sides?
Speaker 2: I like Billy.
Speaker 1: I like Billy. Billy was barely in this last episode.
Speaker 2: I like Billy, and I like the reveal at the
Speaker 2: end of the last episode.
Speaker 1: I stayed awake for this last one, though.
Speaker 2: All right, so what are we? What are we? Four? For? Six? Now?
Speaker 1: How many episodes?
Speaker 2: Those been?
Speaker 1: Seven episodes?
Speaker 2: Oh so five of seven? You've you've you've had.
Speaker 1: A suize, But I've stayed awake for two.
Speaker 2: All right, So hey, we're on the up and up.
Speaker 1: I haven't fallen asleep during Penguin so hm hmmm, which
Speaker 1: is also released late at night almost midnight.
Speaker 2: You're watching it every Sunday night, every Sunday night. Oh god, No,
Speaker 2: I got to switch football to watch it.
Speaker 1: And when I say midnight, I mean nine o'clock feels
Speaker 1: like midnight, Tody.
Speaker 2: Sure I get that. No, I'm busy watching football on Sunday.
Speaker 1: I Campaday night football. I've I just watched eight hours
Speaker 1: of football.
Speaker 2: I had. I had a matchup coming down to Ceed
Speaker 2: Lamb last night. I had Ceedee Lamb. He crushed it, Banger.
Speaker 1: I do DraftKings during the afternoon. My games are over
Speaker 1: at seven thirty, and then I just closed my eyes.
Speaker 2: I've had an awful DraftKings season.
Speaker 1: I've had a bad Draftking season. And yes, I had
Speaker 1: a day for myself with all of my parlays because
Speaker 1: everything was linked to Drake may.
Speaker 2: Fun. Gambleing's fun.
Speaker 1: You know what I did is as soon as he
Speaker 1: walked off the field, clean my attic. I turned my
Speaker 1: TV off and I cleaned my attic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had nothing left to watch.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm good. I don't need to watch any
Speaker 1: more of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just feel so all right?
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Speaker 1: Tepublic dot com check us out at the end of
Speaker 1: the week. So I guess if we both finished Agatha,
Speaker 1: we should do that.
Speaker 2: At the end of the week, Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: If we don't, we'll do a dump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do that. I do. I do enjoy
Speaker 2: doing the dumps for the Monday coming off the weekend.
Speaker 1: I do too.
Speaker 2: But if you don't finish Agatha, we can, we can push.
Speaker 1: I'll power through it. I'll do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm definitely gonna fetch it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, you bro I'm sorry. All right, So
Speaker 1: we'll do that.
Speaker 2: Then I think there's gonna be like a pretty big reveal.
Speaker 2: Well maybe we already had one, but I feel like
Speaker 2: this two episode finale. By the way, it's a two
Speaker 2: episode finale this week for anyone listening, I think we're
Speaker 2: gonna get like a pretty cool reveal.
Speaker 1: No, I have a sneaking suspicion that the finale of
Speaker 1: this show is gonna be people throwing lights at each other.
Speaker 1: That's usually what ends up as magic.
Speaker 2: That's magic, baby, that's magic. You know I got the
Speaker 2: magic stick?
Speaker 1: How many songs? What magic can we do? Those are
Speaker 1: the only two I know.
Speaker 2: I actually had magic stick until you sang that one.
Speaker 1: There's definitely more songs. I'll give magic six point seven
Speaker 1: songs about magic.
Speaker 2: Ooh, witchy woman, there.
Speaker 1: You go, Magic carpet ride. Yeah, you can do magic
Speaker 1: by you from the ground, black magic woman, Oh, great one.
Speaker 1: That's a great one. Puff the Magic Dragon, which I
Speaker 1: figured I found out it's about smoking marijuana. Come on,
Speaker 1: A kind of magic? By who a kind of magic?
Speaker 1: It's their titular song, Abracadabra by Abracadabra. All right, you
Speaker 1: know that song Abrabra? No, that's the Steve Miller band.
Speaker 2: We talk a pokemon Now get in my b That's
Speaker 2: all I got.
Speaker 1: Bad pretty good magic stick magic, bus range magic. Do
Speaker 1: you believe in magic? All the magic? This magic moment?
Speaker 1: We know that one.
Speaker 2: So it's not listing Witchy Woman though, it's about witches.
Speaker 1: Riannon from Flee Mac.
Speaker 2: Witch.
Speaker 1: Now, so hold up, so you like Fleetwood Mac love
Speaker 1: Fleetwood Mac. It's telling me here that Rhiannon is about magic.
Speaker 2: Rhiannon same thing that would that would be? Uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe it is. I don't know.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: The Eagles sing Witchy Woman.
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, come on, Mac. You like music,
Speaker 1: don't you.
Speaker 2: I saw the Eagles, but uh, did you realize Glenn
Speaker 2: Fry was already dead? So it was his son instead?
Speaker 2: Jeff for a Red Sox great for red Sock and
Speaker 2: Blue Jay great and Phillies. Maybe Rangers hit for.
Speaker 1: The cycle for the blue Jays so hard?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Is that what the socks? No? You know what happened.
Speaker 1: He hit a home run triple double and his final
Speaker 1: at BT could have hit a single but instead went
Speaker 1: for two.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing you should do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you want a meaningless cycle. You want that
Speaker 1: brock Holt status.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, all right.
Speaker 1: Whatever Tuesdays or Goose days. I have used Kangaroos by Burton.
Speaker 1: Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue
Speaker 1: the adventure. Now it's not for girls jumping on trampolines.