WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:12.160 Good evening everybody, and welcome to another Cajun night live 2 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:16.239 group chat situation that we have going on here. I 3 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:18.160 want to thank everybody for taking some time out of 4 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:21.039 their Wednesday night to come and talk with us about 5 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:23.079 all the things and all the stuff that's going on 6 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:26.839 in the day today. As always, we can go wherever 7 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:29.879 we want to go with this conversation. We can go geopolitical, 8 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:32.119 we can go religious, we can go historical, we can 9 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:35.520 go wherever. Honestly, you know, as we do, the floor 10 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:37.840 is gonna just kind of be whoever's talking at that moment. 11 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:43.640 So yeah, man, thank y'all for joining in. So right 12 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:46.280 off the rip here I do. I'm sorry if I'm 13 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:49.200 a little dishoveled. It's been quite an evening here, and 14 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:51.640 I know I say that every time, but like, oh 15 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:55.759 my goodness, I had a phone call night related phone 16 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.799 call that went till about fifteen minutes ago, and I 17 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.479 realized that it had gone to I was like, ah, hey, brother, 18 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:02.960 I gotta go. I got things I gotta do, I 19 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:04.640 gotta put the kids to bed, gotta do this. Bah 20 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:08.280 bah bah bap. Thankfully got it all situationd and squared 21 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:10.879 away in time for this to happen. So you know, 22 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:13.799 life be throwing them curve balls, but we manage and 23 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:15.480 we catch them, we field them as we do. 24 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:17.159 So. 25 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:20.920 Right here, Raven has thrown up at least one thing 26 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:26.200 into the chat from It's an Instagram post from the 27 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:28.439 business the Business Magnets. 28 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:29.680 Okay. 29 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:33.239 Elon Musk's Doge wants to get rid of the penny 30 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.560 to save taxpayers one hundred and seventy nine million a year. 31 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:40.480 Says it costs three cents to produce one. So that's 32 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:43.040 something that I've actually heard talked about for quite some time. 33 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:45.599 They've been saying that it costs more than a penny 34 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:48.000 to make a penny. And if you look at other 35 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:51.480 financial and monetary systems across the world, hold the euro 36 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:54.159 doesn't have something to that low of a denomination. They 37 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:56.719 only go down to like what we would consider the nickel. 38 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:03.239 I wouldn't be too terribly upset set at Elon's Doze 39 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:07.159 doing away with the one cent moniker. That would mean 40 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.840 that the tax associated with things are like how it's 41 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:13.520 like for yourst time, only ten ninety nine, that will 42 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:16.159 go to like either ten ninety five or ten ninety 43 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:17.719 which or something like that. It will go to the 44 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:20.039 five or the ten denomen but I'm not mad at that. 45 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:25.039 Also on my own personal selfish front, I actually collect 46 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:29.039 pennies like in the books and like sealed and like 47 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.240 actually for coin collecting purposes. I think the most expensive 48 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:33.879 one I have in my collection is one from like 49 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:37.840 the mid eighteen hundreds, and then I have the ones 50 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:39.680 I'm most proud of are probably the pennies I have 51 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:42.400 from nineteen forty three that are all made out of 52 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:44.680 steel because it was during the war effort and the 53 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:48.280 copper was all going to the war, so for one 54 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:51.919 year only they minted actual US pennies on steel, and 55 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:54.719 I think they're pretty pretty sick. I know I'm biased 56 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:58.400 in that, but if Elon was to take away the penny, 57 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.439 that means my collection just went up in value instantly. 58 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.879 So I am not personally mad at that, But I mean, 59 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:07.919 what are your thoughts on this, if y'all. 60 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:11.199 Have any Well, I'm also in favor of getting rid 61 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:13.080 of it. I think it will kind of shock people 62 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:17.400 into realizing just how much inflation there's been, and you know, 63 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:19.719 people are already aware of it, but I've heard talk 64 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:24.479 that is it true, you would know military bases abroad. 65 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:29.199 I've heard are their smallest denominations than nickel. Is that true? 66 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:34.840 Zombie and hard G feel free to chime in on this. 67 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:37.719 Both the are veterans from different regards. Zombie and I 68 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:41.360 are Marine Corps veterans. Har G, you're an Army veteran, 69 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:43.080 no Air Force Air Force veteran. 70 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:43.439 Correct? 71 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:48.360 Okay, so actually you would be the guy to ask, 72 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:51.319 because Marines, you know, we steal most of what we're 73 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.280 looking for anyway, for whenever people have money and buy things, 74 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:56.039 as they are one to do in the Air Force. 75 00:03:56.439 --> 00:03:57.039 Is that true? 76 00:03:59.719 --> 00:03:59.919 Yeah? 77 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:05.919 So I was never PSD over there like I was. 78 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:11.120 I was deployed only to UAE like td Y in 79 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:17.040 various places, but like most places ran by card. And 80 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:19.920 I can even tell you I remember. 81 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:23.120 Trying to get the Euro. 82 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:24.000 When I was over there. 83 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:26.839 Obviously we get in exchange, but besides that, honestly, I 84 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:28.800 don't even know that's fair. 85 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.839 Raven. Do you remember anything of your time of nickel 86 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:34.160 slash penny currency? 87 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:36.560 No? 88 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:38.959 I mean I lived in Japan, so like all of 89 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:43.319 our money went to yen, so when we like went 90 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.120 to leave, we could trade it back in and get. 91 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:47.879 What we were owed. 92 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:50.439 Pretty much and then if we wanted to use money 93 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:54.079 in Kirkstian or Afghanistan, we just had to do that. 94 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:55.720 So hm. 95 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:58.079 And the only real experience I have with it is 96 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:00.920 on in the state side of it on different bases, 97 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:03.000 because I traveled all up and down the East and 98 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:07.399 West coast to different Marine Corps installations, and I remember 99 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:09.879 I always loved how at the you know, at the exchanges, 100 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:12.560 they never had tax so like, you know, you would 101 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:14.759 go get like a cart and of cigarettes. I remember 102 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:16.720 back when I was smoking Marlboro Reds like it was 103 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.439 going out of style, because for the record, it was. 104 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:22.879 I remember you could get like a cart and of 105 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:26.439 cigarettes for like forty bucks and that was like shit. 106 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:29.360 But actually I remember when it finally went to like 107 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.639 fifty bucks a carton and we were pissed about that. 108 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:35.160 I never remember thinking about if the lowest denomination they 109 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:38.079 would give it back as a nickel. But I mean, 110 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:40.000 there may be some sort of presence to that, Tony, 111 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:41.000 And be honest, I don't know. 112 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.199 Well, yeah, I'm also thinking that I barely ever used 113 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:47.839 cash anymore, certainly not coins. Most of the time. Everything's 114 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.560 digital now, so I think most people just don't uh 115 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.240 most people are the same. So if you don't deal 116 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.920 with coins that often, you probably don't even notice anymore. 117 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:57.079 No coins. 118 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:00.000 Yeah, yeah. 119 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:02.360 Back in the nineties, I remember collecting coins, kind of 120 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:03.959 like you, and I had some of the silver nineteen 121 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.480 forty five pennies, and I had a penny from the 122 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:10.120 eighteen nineties and some other odd coins. But yeah, now 123 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:12.600 it's like I can't. Yeah, I hardly ever see coins 124 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.439 anywhere anymore. I feel like an old man now saying back, 125 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.079 mind we have coins. 126 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:22.639 Really, dude. Okay, So my youngest has a cash register 127 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.439 right which they play store him and my other children, 128 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.959 and it's like, yeah, that's the thing that's also gone 129 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:31.160 by the wayside because everything's self check out these days. 130 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.439 But I digress, and inside of it there's cash, and 131 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:37.519 there's coins, these little plastic quarter, nickel, dime, penny, all 132 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:41.000 the whole nine. And they are looking at this like wow, 133 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:45.199 what's this And I'm like, y'all have really never used 134 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.120 a dime before, the only time they ever used quarters 135 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:50.680 are when it's like at the rare gumball machine or 136 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:53.399 at the rare prize grabber machine. And I have to 137 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:55.720 like go through a cupholder to find some old krusty 138 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:57.759 quarter that hasn't seen the light of day since nam 139 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:02.839 and like that's kind of the way our current society 140 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:06.519 is going. So yeah, and like coins are kind of 141 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:08.839 a hassle these days having a pocket full of change, 142 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:13.160 Like who needs that aggravation. But in the nineties, you'd 143 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:15.040 be crazy not to have a couple of coins in 144 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:17.600 your pocket for nothing else a random payphone because you 145 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.360 never know what will happen and stuff. It's kind of 146 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:23.040 crazy how many of these cultural things have shifted only 147 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:24.120 in the last few decades. 148 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:24.319 Man. 149 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.240 Yeah, especially with digital you know, credit cards and everything. 150 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:30.519 But way back in the day, like when the United 151 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.040 States was founded, people did most of their business with 152 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:35.839 coins and didn't trust paper money as much because it's 153 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:40.120 just paper. And yeah, way back I forget the Chinese 154 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:44.759 invented paper money, but Europeans they really preferred coins, and 155 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:47.959 that's because they had precious metals in them. And that's 156 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.680 a whole history unto itself, about how precious metals got 157 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:53.959 diluted out of coins in the Roman Empire and then 158 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:57.600 they made a comeback and the Byzantine Empire was called 159 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:01.040 the Buzanteen Empires because the bizant as their gold coin, 160 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:05.639 and it was internationally very highly respected and eventually, you know, 161 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.199 our own monetary system. Quarters used to be made of silver. 162 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:12.000 Half dollars used to be made of silver, and they 163 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.279 stopped doing that in nineteen sixty four. So I remember 164 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:18.879 my grandma has a big jar of sixty four and 165 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:23.879 pre sixty four quarters, and I think they stopped making 166 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:25.920 the pennies that out of copper in nineteen eighty two. 167 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:28.040 Yeah, it was eighty two. 168 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:30.199 As a matter of fact, I had a set where 169 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:32.480 it was like the large print and small print from 170 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:36.320 each mint where it was the transition into zinc. 171 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:41.200 One hundred percent correct. Yeah, And I mean. 172 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:44.240 You could tell too, like the people who work or 173 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.840 used to work in the fast food industry or anything 174 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:52.039 that actually had a cash exchange to it. You could 175 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:55.879 hear like the slight, higher pitched ting of a silver 176 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:00.080 quarter hitting the ground versus a nickel quarter hit in 177 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.159 the ground or something like it was that's why, And 178 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:03.559 you would see them kind of swipe and put in 179 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:05.559 their pocket and exchange it out and yeah, dude, those 180 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:08.399 are worth actual they're weight in silver these days, will 181 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:13.919 I mean give or take, but uh yeah, I you 182 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:17.440 can find them in some old jugs of coins that 183 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:20.120 people will still have from time to time. It is 184 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:22.480 very much a thing of the past, and that in 185 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:25.320 one regard as a coin collector, that makes me sad. 186 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:29.440 In another regard as a coin collector, it makes it 187 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:33.440 more valuable and more rare, So like, you know, it'd 188 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:33.720 be like that. 189 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.480 Huh. You guys know what Gresham's law is. 190 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:40.960 Gresham's law, I've heard of it, but refresh my memory. 191 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:44.480 Okay. The basic statement of it is bad money drives 192 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.559 out good and it was named after Lord Gresham in 193 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:52.120 the mid fifteen hundreds, and he was trying to explain 194 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:57.840 to Queen Elizabeth the first why so much English you know, 195 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.799 circulating coins were flowing going out into France, and the 196 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:05.200 reason was because of a recent law that was passed 197 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:08.519 back then, where Queen and Elizabeth was trying to create 198 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:12.759 more money for the government by just saying, Okay, the 199 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:15.039 coins we're issuing now are going to be instead of 200 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:17.200 one hundred percent silver, they're going to be ninety four 201 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:21.399 percent silver, and they're gonna trade at parody by law, 202 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:26.759 it's statutory. But the French knew that the old coins 203 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:28.440 are worth more than the new ones, so they would 204 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:32.399 only accept the old coins in an international trade, and 205 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:35.720 there was a big flow of coins of the old 206 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:39.799 ones out out to France because everyone's incentivized within England 207 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.519 if you got a new coin and an old coin, 208 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:46.360 spend the new one, because it's legally required to be 209 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.200 valued at parity, and that's why the bad money drives 210 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:51.039 out the good money. 211 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:55.080 I wouldn't be surprised if this whole situation with the 212 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:58.159 penny in that same regard of Gresham's law, I wouldn't 213 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.679 be surprised that they just do away with all coin currency. 214 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.240 To be completely honest with you, I mean it's not 215 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:07.559 not only does it not hold the same weight figuratively 216 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:10.080 speaking as far as finances go, but it costs more 217 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.159 than a quarter to make a quarter these days as well. 218 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:14.399 It's not just the penny, although that's I think the 219 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:19.919 easiest to start the transition. But I mean, honestly, I 220 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:21.919 think paper money is also kind of going to go 221 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:24.639 by the wayside. Give it another I don't want to 222 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.360 say century, but I could see sometime in the next 223 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.080 fifty years or so paper money just becoming a thing 224 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.480 of the past, especially with the way the financial system 225 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:36.080 is going more towards crypto and ethereal dollars and all 226 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:39.320 these things. I'm not saying Fiat's ever gonna get replaced, 227 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.039 but I mean, and I've said that on the Cult 228 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:44.919 of Conspiracy more than a few times, that like, you 229 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.320 look at your bank account, you have two thousand dollars. 230 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:51.200 You don't actually have two thousand George Washington's sitting in 231 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:55.039 a bank somewhere. It's digital currency. It's all ethereal, make 232 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:57.519 believe money that gets transferred from point A to point 233 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:01.360 B via Wi Fi or via card swipe these days. 234 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.799 So I see this as definitely a sign of the times. 235 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:07.679 And I remember they first were throwing out getting rid 236 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:09.879 of the penny. I think the first time I ever 237 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.000 heard of this was actually around like two thousand and five, 238 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.720 when I was collecting pennies. The people at the coin 239 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:17.240 shops I used to frequent with talk about how that 240 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:20.320 was probably gonna happen, And they were the ones that 241 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.440 actually told me that the euro doesn't even have something 242 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:24.440 of that small and it was gonna make its way 243 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.679 over to here. And of course the upbringing that I had, 244 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:29.799 my mother was the one that was like, yep, it's 245 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:31.639 all gonna go to the one world currency. It's a 246 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:35.480 Sogniti end times and I'm like, huh, because I. 247 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.879 Was, you know, a young child at this point. 248 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:44.120 But I mean it's also not completely inaccurate either, So yeah, 249 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:46.879 I could see it absolutely happening. And I'm gonna be 250 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:48.720 I didn't know that about the Business and Empire as 251 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:50.960 to why it was called that and all. I mean, yeah, 252 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:52.879 they had precious metals in their coins, but I mean 253 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:56.039 even the British Empire cut two centuries after the Business 254 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.639 and Empire fell. You see their shillings the pieces of 255 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:03.720 eight because they would actually cut it into eight pieces, 256 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.320 these little pie shaped chunks of a shilling, and it 257 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:09.960 was a whole system of trade that they had, and 258 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:13.200 it I mean, I could see that becoming a thing, 259 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:18.399 especially now that gold and silver bullion are getting more 260 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:20.759 weight behind them as far as the global trade and 261 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:24.159 economy is concerned, which I would actually very much like 262 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:25.080 for us to go back to that. 263 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:29.399 Yeah, you know, I could kind of see some physical 264 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:33.159 money making a comeback in response to the fact that 265 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.799 the push for digital currency and keeping everything digital, even 266 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:41.879 in terms of dollars in your bank account, is so 267 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:47.279 that it's all traceable and like maybe drug dealers wouldn't 268 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:50.399 want that and they'd want to just deal with with cash, 269 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.519 or or if cash goes away, there would be some 270 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:58.600 kind of substitute cash for it. I'm probably not making 271 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.720 sense right now, but there are like non governmental, non 272 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:08.360 non fiat, non legal tender kinds of cash or or 273 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.480 coins that are that are minted with precious metals in them, 274 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.399 and they trade and they kind of fluctuate in value 275 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:19.320 more than a national fiat currency does. But yeah, people 276 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:21.960 who don't want to be tracked are going to have 277 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:23.320 a big incentive to use. 278 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:28.039 Those absolutely, And I mean, actually I want to give 279 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.440 it away just yet. We will be releasing on the cold. 280 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:34.039 We actually just got a new sponsor, seven K Gold, 281 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:35.720 and I'm not I don't want people to go look 282 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:37.519 this up yet, but we are going to have a 283 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:39.879 link with a whole website and it's going to be great. 284 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:44.039 We are getting more heavily involved with the gold and 285 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:48.440 silver buoyan trading and I'm super super excited about this 286 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:51.840 because I was already starting to stockpile I don't want 287 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:55.960 to say stockpiles. I'm just now starting to get silver 288 00:14:56.080 --> 00:15:01.039 minted coins and and troy ounce of silver, not just 289 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:02.759 of weight, but actually minted things. 290 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:08.440 And come to find out that if it's minted post nineteen, 291 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:10.519 I want to say it's nineteen eighty one or nineteen 292 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:14.080 eighty three. I'm flaky on that at this moment, it's 293 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:18.919 not taxable because the laws stipulate that if it's a 294 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:21.639 coin that was minted pre eighty one, it is seen 295 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:24.440 as some sort of a taxable legal tender if it's 296 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.159 post eighty one. All the ones you see, especially like 297 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:29.519 I got a buddy that owns a pawnshop and he 298 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.080 has if you've seen the Mandalorian. 299 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:35.639 You saw the best gar blocks that he was doing 300 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:39.159 deals for and everything. They have a mini silver troy 301 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.320 ounce in a little mini bestcar, which I thought was 302 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:45.200 really sick. That is an officially minted thing. It's from 303 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.559 Britain either way, but it's still minted by an officiating 304 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:52.039 body and it was minted post eighty one. To buy 305 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:55.000 that or to sell that would be something that you 306 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:58.159 actually don't have to report on your taxes, which is 307 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:02.519 it's crazy things, but very positive things, and it's a 308 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:05.559 way to kind of protect your investment in ways that 309 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.320 are totally legal, but just not very well known about. 310 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:10.279 It's the same thing as like, all right, do you'll 311 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:14.679 remember watching regular TV before all these streaming services took over, 312 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.720 and you saw these minted goal Buffalo dollars and you 313 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:21.480 could buy this set for twenty dollars for two hundred dollars, 314 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:24.120 but limit of five orders per household and bop bup bup. 315 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:29.120 Those were legally minted coins, not legal tender, but legally 316 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:33.320 minted coins on pure goal bullion. So that fell into 317 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.000 that category. And that was kind of the talking points 318 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.159 that these people were going on and on about back then. 319 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.639 This is I looked into it, not heavily. I'm not 320 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:45.200 like a mastermind of this shit. Now we just got 321 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:49.080 on with these people, but like this seems really cool 322 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:50.200 and I'm really excited. 323 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:53.799 But I digress anyway. 324 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:55.879 Anyway, I, like I said, I don't want to let 325 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:57.440 too much the cat out of the bag on that. 326 00:16:57.559 --> 00:16:59.799 I'm given just the taste of the bare minimum on 327 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:03.759 this one. All right, let's see. Raven also sent something 328 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:04.720 else here in the chat. 329 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:10.079 The doomsday clock has been set to eighty nine seconds 330 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:15.079 to midnight for the first time ever. Now this is interesting, 331 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:18.279 the doomsday clock. And yeah, she posts the next thing 332 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:22.079 underneath it as well. The doomsday clockt get closer to 333 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.200 see this, my eyes are not what they used to be. 334 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:25.720 Good people, I am sorry about that. 335 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:30.799 The Doomsday clock was established in nineteen forty seven. It 336 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:34.839 was created to alert humanity to the existential. 337 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:36.920 Dangers lurking around every corner. 338 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:41.440 Okay, as the clock moves closer to midnight, the risk 339 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:47.680 of global catastrophe increases. The Doomsday clock is set annually 340 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:55.680 by the bulletin of the Atomic Scientists based on global risks. Okay, 341 00:17:55.839 --> 00:18:00.880 all right, the Atomic Society or the Atomic Scientist. I've 342 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:02.720 heard of it before, but I've never really done much 343 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:04.240 digging into it. I kind of thought it was one 344 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:06.839 of those Internet things that are just Internet things, But 345 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:12.039 this is legit. Originally focused on nuclear threats, the clock 346 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:17.319 now also considers climate change and energetic technologies. 347 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:19.440 Okay, that's fair. 348 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:22.920 And the furthest the clock has ever been from midnight 349 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:26.119 was seventeen minutes in nineteen ninety one, after the Cold 350 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:26.920 War ended. 351 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:30.480 Now that also kind of perplexes me. 352 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.119 Why would the Cold War ending make it go closer 353 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:36.480 to midnight. Wouldn't that be a sign that they would 354 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:38.839 move it further away from midnight because what could have 355 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:40.960 been a global catastrophe just got settled. 356 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:46.039 I mean, I don't know, but. 357 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:49.079 Apparently they have just set this year as they're doing 358 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:51.759 it for the year, they put it to eighteen minutes 359 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:54.160 to midnight, which is the closest it's. 360 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:55.119 Been a very long time. 361 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:58.480 And Okay, I'm not going to say it's because of Trump, 362 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:03.200 but also let's be honest, it's not just a America thing. 363 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:06.279 That's a world thing, and there is tons of situations 364 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:09.640 going on around the world right now. Elections left, right 365 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:16.200 and center are being handled in very interesting ways, not 366 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:18.960 just in America. Germany just had a wild election. Britain 367 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:21.799 just had a wild election. Go ahead, Raven. 368 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:23.759 Apparently. 369 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:26.359 I was reading another article about it, and apparently it's 370 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:30.279 because of the global issues that are happening that they've 371 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:35.319 felt that it needs to be a catastrophe of a 372 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:38.759 rising or some weird way of rewarding it. But pretty 373 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:41.319 much they got together and they were like, well, because 374 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:45.160 of all of these things with AI, with all the 375 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:47.799 different wars going on, with the genocides that have been 376 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.680 currently happening, and like the potential of all these different disasters, 377 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:55.519 that's why they moved it, but I've actually never really 378 00:19:55.519 --> 00:20:00.519 heard of it until today, actually, and I get that. 379 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:02.480 The dangers of AI. I mean, I'm not exactly a 380 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:04.720 fan of it myself, but you know, I'm not gonna 381 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:06.799 go on that soapbox right now. But there's tons of 382 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:11.839 dangers to that mirror bacteria and the risks that that 383 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:16.160 poses to all living entities on Earth, human, animal and 384 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:17.720 plant and everything in between. 385 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.240 That's also very massive. Politically, there's a lot of things 386 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:21.720 going on. 387 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:27.200 There's what is it, ninety five conflict areas somewhere around 388 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:29.799 the world right now. There's ninety five war zones or 389 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.359 active people are shooting each other or trying to kill 390 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:36.079 each other in close to one hundred different locations around 391 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:38.559 the world, and there's only like two hundred and six 392 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.319 sovereign states on Earth, or two hundred and ten, I forget. 393 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:43.160 They either took some down or added some. I know 394 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:46.119 it used to be two to eight. So that's also 395 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:50.920 pretty massive. The nuclear countries that there are, which Tony, 396 00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:52.279 I would love to hear you speak on this one 397 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:55.480 as well. I just heard that Russia is talking about 398 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.680 denuclearizing their country and would like to reopen the conversation 399 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:02.799 with America to do the same. What have you heard 400 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:04.240 on in this regard. 401 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:07.759 Well, I haven't heard anything recently, but I remember hearing 402 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:12.559 about this back in Trump's first term. They were they 403 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:16.839 may have talked about it in Helsinki. But another thing 404 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:22.480 that when Reagan met with Gorbachev and Reykiavic in nineteen 405 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:24.960 eighty six or eighty seven, this was a topic that 406 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:30.720 came up. Gorbachev asked him, what do you think about 407 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.200 just getting rid of all our nuclear weapons? And Reagan asked, 408 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:36.759 James Baker, can we do that? And James Baker said, yeah, 409 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:39.079 I think we can. But then later it turned out 410 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:42.079 there was some reason that we couldn't, and they settled 411 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:48.200 for getting rid of the Pershing to intermediate range cruise 412 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:51.160 missiles at that time, which was still a pretty good treaty. 413 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:55.359 I was nineteen eighty seven, and that treaty was eventually 414 00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:58.920 Donald Trump got rid of it, unfortunately. I don't think 415 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:02.599 that was a good decision. But yeah, I think they 416 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:04.759 were talking about getting rid of them because Reagan and 417 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:07.880 Gorbachev and other older people at the time. Gorbachev was 418 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:10.519 kind of young for the time, but they could remember 419 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:12.960 a time before nuclear weapons existed. And I think they 420 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:16.400 wanted to get back to that. And now people in 421 00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:20.359 our generation just assume that it's a status quo and 422 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:24.240 that's always going to be there, so there isn't so 423 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:27.160 much talk of getting rid of it anymore. But I 424 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:31.799 think Putin I've heard him given another statement that yeah, 425 00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:34.960 we're open to scaling down our skep stockpiles, because the 426 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:38.720 US and Russia each have something close to ten thousand warheads, 427 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:41.839 and Putin has said, yeah, we kind of want to 428 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.400 scale them down, and we really hope to work with 429 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:47.720 the United States on that, but we really need to 430 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:50.160 build a lot of trust first. That's the last thing 431 00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:51.960 I remember hearing him say about that, and it was 432 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:52.799 a year or two ago. 433 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:55.400 The last thing I remember was that they pulled out 434 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:59.480 of the start program with America in twenty twenty three, 435 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:01.599 and I just looked that up to verify that date, 436 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:06.640 and everybody thought that that was just the craziest thing 437 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:09.000 he had ever done. And it was right around the time, 438 00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:12.799 right before the military operation into Ukraine and all these things, 439 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:17.200 and they the world, the all encompassing day, thought that 440 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:20.799 that meant that Russia was about to try to nuke Ukraine, 441 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:24.000 that obviously was not in the game plan that why 442 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:25.640 would they want to do that to a land that 443 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:28.359 they were trying to utilize for their own purposes. 444 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:29.720 That's not smart business. 445 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:34.119 But looking at it now hindsight twenty twenty, especially under 446 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:37.559 the Biden administration, Yeah, why would Russia want any of 447 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.279 his guys to have some sort of a one to 448 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:44.559 one understanding with American diplomats At that time, it would 449 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:46.359 make sense to me, like, Yo, if your country's being 450 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:49.480 ran by idiots, I don't want those idiots knowing what 451 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:51.519 I have in my arsenal. 452 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:53.599 I'm gonna be honest with you. 453 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:56.359 So I kind of see it as a strategic move, 454 00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.880 not just trying to kick the hornets test even further. 455 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:02.519 But if Putin is serious about this and he's talking 456 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:05.960 about d I'm trying decommissioning, I kept trying to say, 457 00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:09.400 de escalating, decommissioning. A lot of their nuclear arsenal in 458 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:12.319 America doing the same. I'm on board with this, and 459 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:15.480 I'm very pro military. I'm very pro war. I've not 460 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.519 been shy about these things. But nukes are like that 461 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:21.759 one thing where if anybody was to launch it again, 462 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.079 that would be a suicide for themselves as soon as 463 00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:28.319 don matter France launched one, every other nation with nukes 464 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:30.720 would be forced at that time to nuke them and 465 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:33.920 it would just be a domino effect. And Russia is 466 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.240 the quote unquote evil bad guy right now that we 467 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:39.720 need to watch and all these things. I get it fine. 468 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:44.799 But now that they are talking about Ukraine and Russia 469 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:48.119 possibly having some sort of a long standing ceasefire and 470 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:51.440 that moving forward, I would hope that that means that 471 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:54.480 they Russia would also come to the table again to 472 00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:57.359 discuss the nuclear de escalation of both nations. I see 473 00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:00.440 that as a very positive thing for the world. But 474 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:03.400 depending on how the next few months ago. Maybe that's 475 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:08.519 why the atomic clock, especially the atomic scientists, have set 476 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:12.079 the clock to that close to a cataclysm. Maybe because 477 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.640 there's so much uncertainty, especially with so many nuclear nations 478 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:17.160 having so much turmoil right now. 479 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:18.880 I could see that being a part of it as well. 480 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:21.440 Yeah, I think I heard something on the radio about this, 481 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:26.279 about how they started including climate change with a higher 482 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:31.599 variable weight than they did before, So you know, maybe 483 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.400 you know, in my opinion, the world is probably not 484 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:37.640 in more danger now than it was a year or 485 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.880 two ago, but in their opinion, especially Yeah, if they're 486 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.119 also biased against Trump, they're going to move the needle 487 00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:47.839 closer to midnight. I don't know much about that Start treaty, 488 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:53.119 but as far as stockpiles go, every well almost every 489 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:57.119 nuclear country except for North Korea and Israel is a 490 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.599 signatory to the non proliferation of green so the i 491 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:04.039 a e A gets to inspect them, and the I 492 00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:06.519 a e A does a pretty good job. And it's 493 00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:08.920 not really worth it to try to hide your warheads 494 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:11.519 if you're in any of these countries, because it's like 495 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:14.799 they can sniff it out by with instruments that will 496 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.000 they'll detect a couple of parts per trillion of a 497 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.119 certain zene on isotope, and they can just find physial 498 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.279 material anywhere they want. I don't really understand all of that, 499 00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:31.200 but it's that's that's why they wouldn't say Saddam Hussein 500 00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:36.400 had nuclear weapons, because they were there looking. And uh, yeah, 501 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.359 there was one other thing I can't remember, but yeah, 502 00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.400 it would be great if we could we could scale 503 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:44.119 down nuclear weapons to a smaller number. China I think 504 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:48.440 only has three hundred warheads, and US and Russia each 505 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.240 have over five thousand. Russia has more than we do. 506 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.480 Yeah, So the start program basically was outside of the 507 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.359 I e. A. Was Russia could send their audit to 508 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.720 America at any point in time to see what we 509 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:05.920 have in stock and make sure that the numbers are 510 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.039 still reflecting. And on the flip side of that, America 511 00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:12.279 could send our internal auditors to Russia to do the 512 00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:15.920 same thing. And it was like a nobody really liked it, 513 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:19.480 but it also kept everybody honest, at least between the 514 00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.720 two that have the most nukes. Now, they pulled out 515 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:24.200 of that a couple of years ago. I don't know 516 00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:25.759 if they're going to get back to that or if 517 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:28.559 they're just gonna kind of move forward more on a 518 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:32.839 global auditing system rather than just us and them. I 519 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:34.799 don't know. I don't know how to take it, but 520 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:38.160 I again, I'm with you. I think this would be great. 521 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:42.119 And to the point you made about climate change, with 522 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.240 everybody here in attendance, how many of y'all actually, like. 523 00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:48.119 Are worried about climate change? 524 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.039 I know that it depends on the person you ask, 525 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.200 And yes, we can talk about if it's humans that 526 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.799 are causing the climate change or if it's naturally occurring, 527 00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.279 and the Earth goes through cycles or whatever the case 528 00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.440 may be. Nobody body can deny that the Earth is 529 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:04.079 getting warmers and sea levels are rising. There's less ice 530 00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:08.119 in certain places. Fine, cool, We can acknowledge this. But 531 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:13.200 as far as like human interaction causing it to mass 532 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:17.960 scale anyway, certain certain nuanced areas, I understand, on a 533 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.720 global scale, Do y'all believe that humans are the cause 534 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:22.759 for the climate change? 535 00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:31.039 I don't want to like contaminate anyone else's opinion, so 536 00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:33.160 I want other people first. 537 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.400 Yeah, go ahead, So. 538 00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:44.839 Okay, fine, I will be the guinea pig. So as 539 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:48.359 someone who is mostly uneducated about all this, suff just 540 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.279 obviously it does seem that things are changing. The world, 541 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.559 you know, is going through dips changes. Did we cause 542 00:28:55.640 --> 00:29:00.480 do we not? Did we help move in one or 543 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.519 the other? Maybe? Do I think that the world is 544 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:05.920 going to end because of what we as humans have 545 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.000 done to it? I don't. But I think that's because, 546 00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:13.720 coming from a fairly religious aspect of it, I don't 547 00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:18.599 think I will let that happen. I mean, God gave 548 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:24.279 us this world hopefully to do good things. But is 549 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:28.880 it going to end because of us? I mean I 550 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:33.039 always say no, But this is an uneducated religious view. 551 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:34.039 No doubt. 552 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.839 And I'm not trying to like kickstart a lively debate 553 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.039 and fight on the topic either. I'm just I'm kind 554 00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:43.039 of curious what everybody's individual opinions are on the matter. 555 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:45.720 Raven, please please chime in. 556 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:53.880 I think that there is substance behind climate change, now, 557 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:58.680 whether that is the natural occurring cycle or human interventions. 558 00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:03.880 There is multiple things about that's aded it. 559 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.720 Like there's been like forty six million tons of paper 560 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.039 like a year that's not being recycled. 561 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:12.720 Like there's tons and tons. 562 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.160 Of stuff that like are polluting the earth, that are 563 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:19.480 causing issues and things to arise. I think the industrial 564 00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:23.519 revolution had a big part in this, Like there's clear 565 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.200 signs of things that have happened. You can tell by 566 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.440 the ice itself that like this is also a naturally 567 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:35.000 occurring cycle, like the world will get warmer anyways, and 568 00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:37.599 it will go through the tectonic plates will shift and 569 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.079 there will be another Like you know, Pangaeo was evolution, 570 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.000 Like you see Pangaea. You see how it's split apart, 571 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:46.680 you see the volcanoes, Like there's lots of things that 572 00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:51.759 have happened throughout the history of Earth. I think that 573 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:55.079 we are. I think people that are engineering with like 574 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:58.400 the seed the cloud seeds and stuff like, they're having 575 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:03.039 a hand at controlling the disasters and how extensive they are. 576 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.559 And that's probably eating in like the quote unquote climate 577 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:07.920 change movement. 578 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:09.359 But as of right now, like. 579 00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:14.440 Recycling and pollution are at all time high. 580 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.000 So I mean, that's that's kind of where I'm at 581 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:17.319 with it. 582 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.519 I hear you. I hear you, Tony. What are your thoughts. 583 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.559 I'm not very worried about climate change, except if there's 584 00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.880 nuclear war. But the IPCC maybe ten or fifteen years ago, 585 00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:32.640 they were predicting, this is the Inner Governmental Panel and 586 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.880 Climate Change a un body. They said sea level right 587 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:41.319 might rise somewhere between ten centimeters and one meter, And 588 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:44.559 I think, yeah, the sea level might rise a little bit. 589 00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:49.039 We might go up half degree celsius or one degree 590 00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:53.240 fahrenheit over the next hundred years. And I think that's 591 00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.440 not enough to be worth worrying about it. I am 592 00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:58.119 more worried about what might happen if a lot of 593 00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:00.480 nukes go off, because the theory is and it will 594 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:03.960 send up a lot of really small dust particles into 595 00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:07.720 the upper atmosphere where there's enough turbulence and low enough 596 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.079 moisture that it won't get rained out, and it'll really 597 00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:15.319 drop temperatures by something like thirty degrees celsius everywhere it'll 598 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:18.680 leave to starvation and famines. And that is something I 599 00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:23.359 worry about more because I think from what I've heard 600 00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:27.160 and read about who has the authority to launch nukes 601 00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.440 and how dangerous it is, and how we're all just 602 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.319 kind of on the honor system and not doing it 603 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:40.359 out of habit, well, anything could change that. And if 604 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:43.720 the US and Russia and Western Europe and China all 605 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:47.519 start launching their nukes at each other, that's it's gonna start. 606 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:49.160 It's going to kill most of the people in all 607 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.680 those countries, and even a lot of people left in 608 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:56.000 the Southern hemisphere are going to starve. Yeah, So yeah, 609 00:32:56.039 --> 00:33:00.319 that's what I worry about. And here's another thing. This 610 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:02.079 is a kind of different angle, but I think a 611 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:05.960 lot of people like I'm not a determinist. I don't 612 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.799 believe that God has scripted out the history and the 613 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:13.759 future of mankind or our world. I think that our 614 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.119 decisions can actually change the future, and that free will 615 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.799 is a real thing. But I think that people who 616 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:25.759 tend to believe that, well, God has a plan, believe 617 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.720 that well, you know, the invention of nukes may kind 618 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:33.119 of confirm that the APO apocalypse is going to happen. 619 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.880 And if that's his plan, let's just, you know, maybe 620 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.000 maybe we should let that happen. And I don't think 621 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.400 that that's what his plan is. I don't really I'm 622 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:45.039 not sure what his plan is, but I prefer him 623 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.519 to end the world on his terms rather than ours. 624 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:48.480 That's fair. 625 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.640 And I mean, the threat of a nuclear winter is 626 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:56.119 definitely something that has been postulated by many a scholar 627 00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:00.279 multiple times over, and it definitely can't be a negate. 628 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:01.079 By any means. 629 00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.920 I am also, I hear what you're saying, but I, 630 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.079 you know, me, I believe that free will is a 631 00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:08.599 thing and that there is a plan in place all 632 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.639 happening at the same time. It's very interwoven in my 633 00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:15.719 own version of the truth and reality of which we live. 634 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:19.599 But I understand what you're saying one hundred percent, and 635 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.039 yeah to all of y'all's points. As a matter of fact, 636 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.119 I think it's kind of a combination of everything that 637 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:26.239 we're saying here. I don't think that humans are the 638 00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.440 reason for the climate change. However, it's not like we've 639 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.639 done a lot to help it or stop it in 640 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.199 any regard. And heavy industry has definitely played a factor. 641 00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:41.239 Industrial accidents, spills into the ocean, releases of certain chemicals 642 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.480 into the air. I believe all of that has played 643 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.800 in for sure, But I also believe that's more of 644 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.039 a drop in the overall bucket, you know, figuratively speaking, 645 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:51.400 Raven go ahead. 646 00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:55.079 I have a friend that did like a lot of 647 00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:59.840 nuclear stuff. They did that was like their job, and 648 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.280 and he was telling me that like they estimated it 649 00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:06.320 out like depending on which size nuke it was, but 650 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.920 they estimated it'd be like seven nukes total to cause 651 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.079 like a global nuclear winner, and then like only seveny 652 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.280 to go off. And then because of that, like the 653 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:20.360 because of how it would react in the atmosphere and 654 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:23.599 everything like that, like it would cause at least thirty 655 00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.159 years worth of the nuclear winner, and like if people 656 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:31.119 survived this whole thing, that there would only be a handful. 657 00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:33.280 That's why a lot of people with the whole with 658 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:36.320 the bunker that they just opened up in Greenland again 659 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:37.480 to put more seeds in it. 660 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:38.440 And stuff, Like. 661 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:42.159 There's a lot of belief that there is that those 662 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:46.360 bunkers are also for the you know, extremely wealthy and 663 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.920 like they'll survive down there and you know, whatever is 664 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.360 to come they could last and stuff because those bunker, 665 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.360 that bunker in particular, is supposed to be like I 666 00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.239 think it's like indestructible for all things, and it has 667 00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:02.239 like I mean thousands, thousands of samples of all sorts 668 00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.639 of seeds and like everything you could think of is 669 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.320 down there to be able to repopulate the earth if 670 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:11.000 there was quote something to happen. So I think it's 671 00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:14.559 an interesting part to the climate change. 672 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.480 Yeah, everybody thinks when they think of nukes, they think 673 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:23.400 of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, right, got it cool? The biggest 674 00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.840 one that America ever launched was the Castle Bravo, and 675 00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:31.360 that one sent radioactive ash across the ocean and they 676 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:34.320 had people in Guam that were basically getting snowed on 677 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:38.000 with volcanic ash or now volcanic excuse me, nuclear ash, 678 00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:40.400 and they didn't even realize they had kids outside playing 679 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.679 with it and stuff getting soaked in radiation. And that's 680 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.719 not even the biggest nuke ever tested on Earth. The 681 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.679 Tzarabama from Russia was so to your point, Yeah, if 682 00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:55.280 they let off seven Castle Bravos or seven Tzarbamas, I 683 00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.320 absolutely could see how the basically the entirety of the 684 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.599 Earth would be covered in some sort of a nuclear 685 00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.159 ash and soot, And that's just what would fall to 686 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.840 the earth, never mind what would stay up in the air. 687 00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:12.280 So it really could, especially with the way that they 688 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.360 have developed them, in the way that the types of damage, 689 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.280 in the amount of damage that these things do, if 690 00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:21.880 only a few of them went off, it would realistically 691 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.800 change the course of the Earth forever one hundred percent. 692 00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:30.239 Yeah. And to speak of those bombs, those are hydrogen bombs. 693 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:33.119 The ones that went off in Japan didn't have the 694 00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:37.760 power of deuterium hydrogen, so they were only fourteen to 695 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:43.000 twenty tons. But that cider bombbaugh was one hundred megatons 696 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:47.599 or one hundred thousand kilo tons, And I'm struggling with 697 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:49.960 the math right now, but yeah, it's like, you know, 698 00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.840 ten thousand times stronger than the herosium of bomb. Our 699 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:58.079 Minuteman missiles are something like one hundred and seventy kilo tons, 700 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:02.119 so they're only ten times stronger than the Hiroshima bomb, 701 00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:04.840 but that's still something. I think that the mini man 702 00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:05.920 uses hydrogen too. 703 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:08.440 I think they do as well, because it's more of 704 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.440 an efficient kaboom, So it makes sense that as they 705 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.840 were developing them, they would go for the more efficient bomb. 706 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.119 But yeah, as we're talking about that ten thousand times 707 00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:24.039 stronger than Hiroshima, like that is practically inconceivable for a 708 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.760 normal human to conceive of what that would actually look 709 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.239 like destruction wise, And I don't mean just what the 710 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:35.480 video of the mushroom cloud looks like, like real things 711 00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.679 about where how far that blast goes, how far that 712 00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:43.559 EMP wave would hit, how far the radioactive ash would go, 713 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.960 how actual weather will be shifted and change because of that, 714 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:51.039 What would happen to our legitimate atmosphere with that type 715 00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:55.039 of kaboom going off. It's that's that's an inconceivable thing 716 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:59.159 for the vast majority of humans, I think, And yeah, 717 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.639 I am with you that I would very much like 718 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:06.639 for the nuclear decommissioning for a lot of nations to 719 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.440 take place, But I also don't believe that'll ever go 720 00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:13.440 to U no more nukes or anything to that level. 721 00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.480 I think that, yeah, it's probably it's a little excessive 722 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:18.400 that we have enough to blow up the earth seven times, 723 00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:22.400 that that's a bit extreme in my book. Go ahead, harjie. 724 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:27.639 So my only question is, let's just say that there 725 00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:29.880 was a plan in place to try it. You're seeking 726 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.280 the other nations or even our nation would actually abide 727 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.079 by it, because it seems like they'd be one of 728 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:36.920 those things like, yeah, sure, we you know, we don't 729 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.280 have any all all the while, So like, what what's 730 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:44.400 I mean? We have nuclear bunkers, we have you know, 731 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:48.320 missile silos all over the country that are known and 732 00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:53.400 aren't known. So what's what's to stop our country another 733 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:59.880 country to actually doing that. Let's says to you know, 734 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.639 same thing, decommission, get rid of etc. 735 00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:06.679 I mean, at that point, it's kind of quote unquote 736 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:07.440 honor system. 737 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:12.480 Right, But let's say, hypothetically speaking, the world got together 738 00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.320 in one place, all countries, every single one of them, 739 00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:17.679 even the ones that are at war with each other, 740 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:20.280 they came together to the table and said, all right, y'all, 741 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.000 we got to get rid of all the nukes, and 742 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.280 they for some reason agreed to that. And you would 743 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.320 have any nation, not just America, Russia, China, that doesn't 744 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.480 matter name a country that's a nuclear power, right, and 745 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.599 they would say that they would decommission them, and then 746 00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:37.639 not if it was ever discovered that they actually withheiled 747 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:39.679 a weapon that they said that they got rid of. 748 00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.039 At that point, that would be a declaration of war 749 00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.519 for every nation that abided by the rules versus the 750 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:51.119 nation or nations that didn't. And I could see that 751 00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.599 being an immediate arms race, very very similar to the 752 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.639 Cold War. And that's what I'm saying. I don't believe 753 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.679 they'll ever go to that level of every agree that 754 00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:03.920 there will be no more nukes, right, I mean that 755 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.960 just goes against human nature. We are kind of dead 756 00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.039 set on killing ourselves as a species. I mean that 757 00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:13.920 we just do that. So I don't think they'll ever 758 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.599 actually get rid of all of them. I would like 759 00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:20.159 it to get to some sort of a reasonable level, 760 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.400 like if America has enough to blow up the entire 761 00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:26.679 earth one time, Okay, hey, that's more than enough, you 762 00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:29.000 know what I mean, Like we could just cap it there. Russia, 763 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.119 y'all want to have the equal amounts cool and we 764 00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:33.760 just kind of just leave it alone on that plane. 765 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:38.360 I just I don't know, tell any what are your thoughts. 766 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.719 Well as to the question why can't we get rid 767 00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.920 of them? I think it's because many countries feel they 768 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:48.719 need them for defense or at least the terrence against 769 00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:53.039 other countries, and that's why North Korea developed them. I 770 00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:56.840 misspoke earlier when I said only Israel and North Korea 771 00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:01.039 are not part of the IAEA. There's also India and Pakistan. 772 00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:02.800 For some reason, I forgot about them. 773 00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:05.079 They all stand in nuclear power. 774 00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.320 Oh yeah, they got it in nineteen ninety eight. There's 775 00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:13.880 a guy named aq Khan Abdul Kadir Khan who was involved, 776 00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.920 but he was probably way lower level than not the 777 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:22.639 ring leader. Basically, yeah, that was ninety eight. Let's say, 778 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:25.880 where was I going there? There is the obvious military 779 00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.760 industrial complex angle on building and maintaining these things for money, 780 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:34.840 but I think there's also a sense that people want 781 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:40.400 to want to deter other countries militarily, and your average American, 782 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:42.559 in my opinion, would not want to give up all 783 00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.480 the nukes. I think your average American would probably say, 784 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:48.199 you know, we could, we could do with less than 785 00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.760 the hundreds or thousands that we have, but yeah, better 786 00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:52.559 to keep a few. 787 00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:55.559 It's kind of the same as like why do we 788 00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:57.920 need guns? Right, well, why do we need Why don't 789 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.199 we just outlaw all the guns? You're gonna have people 790 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.079 that are like, why I want them for my protection? 791 00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:04.280 And it's the same kind of concept as all the 792 00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:06.360 countries of that. I'm with you on this as well. 793 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.159 I just I also did not know that Pakistan was 794 00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.119 a nuclear power. That's new information. I knew India was, 795 00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.039 and we apparently have signed a treaty with them to 796 00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:18.800 where we are like locked in, like blood tie, locked 797 00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:20.559 in the same way that we're locked in with Israel 798 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.719 as far as intel is concerned. Apparently we are locked 799 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:27.199 in like the thickest of thieves with India for military assets, 800 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.320 which I'm not mad at, and I'm also not mad 801 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:31.920 that they have nukes, but yeah, it was kind of 802 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:33.000 one of those odd ones. 803 00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.840 Yeah, I think Pakistan might have gotten them first. And 804 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.760 the US was really tight with Pakistan during Cold War, 805 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.559 and India was more aligned with the Soviets. But somehow, 806 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.960 I guess through the nineties and early two thousands, that 807 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:48.400 whole thing kind of flipped. So now the US and 808 00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:53.480 Pakistan are a little more hostile. Yeah, Yeah, Indian Pakistan 809 00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.519 obviously hate each other. And here's one thing I meant 810 00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.159 to bring up earlier. If India and Pakistan knew each other, 811 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.920 and some people say that's really high probability that that 812 00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:01.800 might happen. 813 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:03.719 But yeah, they hate each other, they really do. 814 00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:08.400 Would that cause other countries to nuke each other? Because 815 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.360 I kind of doubt it. I think that if there 816 00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.599 were a nuclear war there, it might actually be contained. 817 00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:16.360 It would be awful because there's more than a billion 818 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:19.960 people involved, but I think it would actually be contained. 819 00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:23.519 And in Wikipedia it says India has probably one hundred 820 00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.360 and sixty four nuclear weapons. Pakistan's probably I don't know, 821 00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:31.280 maybe a similar number, probably less, but yeah, it might 822 00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:32.360 actually be contained. 823 00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.320 I think you might be onto something here. Well, m no, 824 00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:41.119 because keep in mind India is involved with bricks and 825 00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.400 while they're tied into US America for military reasons, and 826 00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:48.719 if Pakistan was to nuke India, America would have to 827 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:52.280 go to bat for India because of our treaty. And 828 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.719 on the same side, Russia would want to back their 829 00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.679 homie for the economic situation. I see where you're going 830 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:00.840 with this. 831 00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:05.760 Sorry, I think I think America and Russia would both 832 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:09.119 say I'm not firing anything, right, now we would have. 833 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.079 To because of our military alliance with India that that's 834 00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:14.679 the only reason aside. 835 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.599 From that would agree with Pakistan, I guess. 836 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:20.159 So, which I mean, I'm with you that we could 837 00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:25.960 and in all probability should let that situation cook itself out, 838 00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:30.440 because that's kind of containable. Like you said, I mean, hey, 839 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:34.960 that's that's kind of that could be just them versus them, 840 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.320 and we let it cook the same way that Pakistan 841 00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.039 and Iraq are going at it right now, and it's 842 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:44.760 like no country is really throwing down in this regard. 843 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.000 We're kind of letting to see, you know, how the 844 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:49.960 coin turns on this one. But yeah, we actually do 845 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:54.159 have a rather strong, like the strongest of military alliances 846 00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.440 with India, so we would it'd be kind of the 847 00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.039 same reason why World War One got brought into an 848 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:02.440 entire World War or over just one dude getting assassinated. 849 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:06.599 If India got attacked, we would have to back them, 850 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:09.400 and that would mean that we would probably bring in Canada, 851 00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:12.960 in the UK, in Australia, and then we'd probably bring 852 00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:17.039 in NATO, probably the EU because if one of NATO 853 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:20.639 members that are EU member come in militarily It's very 854 00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.679 possible that others would throw into so it would get 855 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.280 blown into a new situation that would be the new 856 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:32.559 Archduke Ferdinand possibly possibly. But then World War One, for 857 00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:35.119 the same reason, could have been contained as just that. 858 00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.840 It could have been just a Serbia issue, and it 859 00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:41.280 could have been just a Mediterranean issue. But because of 860 00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:43.519 long standing alliances and this and that and the third 861 00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:45.239 next thing, you know, we got lines divided and we 862 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.920 got dudes killing each other in trenches. It could very 863 00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:50.599 well go that route too. I'm I am of the 864 00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:54.239 belief that India and Pakistan, although of all nuclear nations, 865 00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.159 they are the most likely to throw those levels of 866 00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.039 weapons at each other. I also think that neither of 867 00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:02.519 them want that kind of smoke from the international community 868 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:04.320 because on the other side of that, let's say that 869 00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:08.360 that doesn't happen. Let's say that America goes against our 870 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:11.000 treaty with India and we say, nah, bro, there's a 871 00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:11.559 y'all problem. 872 00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:12.280 Y'all handle it. 873 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:16.400 At that point, nukes have now been fired, and all 874 00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.199 of the countries, just to save face, would have to 875 00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:21.360 have some sort of an opinion on it or take 876 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.239 a stance, or if at the very least throw tariffs 877 00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:28.440 on the recently nuked nations, which wouldn't go well either. 878 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:32.199 So it's I don't know. I feel like anybody that 879 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:34.880 would be willing to launch a nuke at anybody else 880 00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.719 would pretty much just be assuming that they committed suicide 881 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:40.559 on behalf of their entire nation at this point. And 882 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:44.079 I mean there's Kim Jong who he's completely fine with that, 883 00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:46.679 but I mean his people are pretty much praying for 884 00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:48.400 death at this point, so I mean, it's no skin 885 00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.800 off of his nose, really, So I mean, I don't know, 886 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.239 I don't know. I do think India and Pakistan are 887 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:56.280 probably going to go into actual open war here in 888 00:47:56.320 --> 00:48:00.000 the next decade unless some very drastic things can change. 889 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.239 But I don't know. Pakistan's already pissing off Iraq right now, 890 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.480 and it's not like that's a big deal by any means, 891 00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:09.480 but they wouldn't want to start something on two fronts. 892 00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:11.559 They're at least going to handle one situation before they 893 00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:12.840 go to another. I don't know. 894 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.880 But anyway, anyway, getting off on it, and that's it. 895 00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:20.840 Like I said, Russia would have to throw in because 896 00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:23.679 of bricks for if nothing else, just for the economic 897 00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:26.000 side of it. They're going to side with India over 898 00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:31.159 Pakistan just to kind of protect their protect their financial 899 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:35.199 interests as well as their border neighbor interests in that 900 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:40.119 regard which Pakistan. Pakistan shares a border with it. No, 901 00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:43.800 they don't, No, they don't. They share a border with Iraq, 902 00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:45.400 and they share a border with India. But I don't 903 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.079 believe even their northernmost border is that touch Russia. 904 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:51.880 Uh No, it's mostly with Afghanistan. But they have a 905 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:56.719 big border with the with the Iran and not with Iraq. 906 00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.639 I've been saying Iraq. I mean Iran this whole time. 907 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.400 Sorry Jesus, It's okay. 908 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:04.800 I make mistakes too, Like I forgot all about India 909 00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:10.159 Pakistan earlier with the intermedia with the non proliferation agreement. 910 00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:12.159 But I was just googling while you were talking, and 911 00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:14.639 it looks like the US does have some kind of 912 00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:18.800 flexible nuclear posture. If Pakistan and India ever used nukes 913 00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:20.719 in the US would be on India's side. So you're 914 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.840 one hundred percent right about that. And the US might 915 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.159 use nukes and might not, but even if they did, 916 00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:28.400 I still think that conflict would probably be just contained 917 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:32.079 to that region, and I'm googling what Russia would do, 918 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:36.119 and it's a wall of text I don't understand right now, 919 00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.679 but yeah, it's worth looking into. I shouldn't have done 920 00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:39.199 that earlier. 921 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:41.519 I do think that India is a good homie to 922 00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.920 have on the economic side and on the financial side, 923 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.880 as pretty much everything else there. You know, people have 924 00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:52.079 slept on them for the past few decades. India's military 925 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:57.039 track record is actually pretty impressive. Anytime they get sent 926 00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.559 in to do something for you, in or whatever the 927 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:03.519 case is, they usually handle the situation relatively quickly, and 928 00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:07.360 they are a very capable military grand scheme of things. 929 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:11.840 So I think that America and Russia, for different reasons, 930 00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:15.000 but also kind of for the same reasons, keep them 931 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:16.639 as as a close homie. 932 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:17.800 You know, I don't know. 933 00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.159 I think that you're right, it very well could be 934 00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.880 contained to that area, and if that ever was to happen, 935 00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:27.159 you know, heaven forbid, I would hope that it would 936 00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.679 be contained to that area. But I think that will 937 00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.159 also depend on who our leader is at that time. 938 00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:34.480 You know, if Donnie t is in office when India 939 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.079 gets hit with a nuke, I don't think it's gonna 940 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.320 go over as It's not gonna be the same as 941 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:43.320 if you know Sleepy Joe was at the helm, if 942 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:46.079 India had gotten attacked during that time, you know what 943 00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:48.679 I mean, treaty or not. I think that a lot 944 00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:51.599 of it goes to who's leading at that moment, which 945 00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:57.960 is sad but true. But anyway, all right, So o 946 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.559 Zombie showed one more picture actually speaking of this atomic clock, 947 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:04.400 Let's see if I can enlarge that picture. Oh my god, 948 00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.280 I can, thank the Lord. My eyes are getting worse 949 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:08.119 and worse by the day. 950 00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:08.679 I swear. 951 00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.199 They said I was gonna need glasses by thirty Yeah, 952 00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:11.760 I'm thirty two. 953 00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:14.760 They were not fucking lying, all right. 954 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:19.480 So the doomsday clock minutes to midnight. So seventeen minutes 955 00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.679 to midnight was in nineteen ninety one, fourteen minutes to 956 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.880 midnight was in ninety five. They had twelve minutes to 957 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:30.679 midnight in sixty three and in seventy two. Ten minutes 958 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:37.000 to midnight was in sixty nine and nineteen seventy. Nine 959 00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.559 minutes to midnight was in seventy four and ninety eight. 960 00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:45.400 They had seven minutes to midnight in forty seven, sixty, 961 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:48.719 sixty eight, eighty and then in two thousand and two 962 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.159 they had it at six minutes to midnight. In twenty ten, 963 00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:56.519 and in nineteen eighty eight, five minutes to midnight in 964 00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.559 seven and in twenty twelve, four minutes to midnight in 965 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:01.559 nineteen eighty one. 966 00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:03.960 Interesting, they're getting closer and closer. 967 00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:09.000 Good god. Three minutes to midnight in nineteen forty nine, 968 00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:14.440 nineteen eighty four, and in twenty fifteen. Yeah, two and 969 00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:18.000 a half minutes to midnight in twenty seventeen, two minutes 970 00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:23.800 to midnight in nineteen fifty three, twenty eighteen, in twenty nineteen, 971 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.920 and the closes they had was one hundred seconds to 972 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:31.000 midnight in two thousand and twenty two. Now, that's interesting. 973 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:33.320 A couple of these are kind of important to note here. 974 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.880 In nineteen forty nine, which is whenever it moved to 975 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.760 three minutes to midnight, that was when the Soviets did 976 00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:40.960 their first nuclear test. 977 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:41.800 UH. 978 00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:47.159 Nineteen fifty three, when it was two minutes to midnight 979 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.920 was when the US tests their first hydrogen bomb. Interesting, 980 00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:56.320 nineteen eighty four, they had it at three minutes to midnight, 981 00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:59.320 and that was when the US Soviet relations reached its 982 00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:05.199 lowest point. Fair enough, twenty fifteen when they had it 983 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:09.599 listed at oh Where to Go twenty fifteen, it was 984 00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:13.079 three minutes to midnight. That was when climate change and 985 00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:15.159 nuclear concerns. I guess that's the first year where they 986 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:19.079 actually started attributing climate change, not just global conflicts impossible 987 00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:23.000 nuclear fallout. And in twenty twenty two when it was 988 00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:26.559 one hundred seconds to midnight was because of climate change, 989 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:33.440 the pandemic plandemic, that foolishness, the sniffles nuclear and cyber 990 00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:37.159 warfare concerns. Okay, So it's not like just because they 991 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.159 put it up on the clock saying that it's super 992 00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:42.800 uber close to midnight that something's gonna happen. They are 993 00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:44.599 just kind of looking at the grand scheme of things 994 00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:48.639 to say, all of these things collectively could make something happen, 995 00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:52.639 and it's more likely now than ever. So okay, I 996 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:57.039 didn't know the Atomic Society, Yeah, okay, I could see 997 00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.000 why the Atomic Society would do that and attribute all 998 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:01.760 these things to try to give a good readout. 999 00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:05.440 But they've been wrong thus far, so praise. 1000 00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:10.519 Me to God. But interesting, and in twenty twenty two, 1001 00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:14.159 really because of COVID and things. 1002 00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:15.760 I thought by twenty twenty two. 1003 00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:18.039 I thought most people were over it and stopped wearing 1004 00:54:18.079 --> 00:54:20.440 their masks and just kind of moved on with their lives. 1005 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:22.840 I honestly didn't think it was even that much of 1006 00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:25.639 a concern. But if we're going to talk about some 1007 00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:29.840 sort of global quote unquote educated grouping that's trying to 1008 00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:32.800 say something is dangerous and it's a lurking around every corner, 1009 00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:36.480 sure in twenty twenty two, they were absolutely still scared 1010 00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:38.920 that they were going to catch the sniffles and die. 1011 00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:44.599 Yeah. I do remember that time pretty vividly. The biggest 1012 00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:49.239 COVID death month in the US was January of twenty 1013 00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:53.519 twenty two, after pretty much everyone got the vaccine, everyone 1014 00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:57.079 who wanted it got it, And you know, it kind 1015 00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:00.440 of goes to show that the vaccine probably didn't help 1016 00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.360 prevent any of those deaths. But hospitals were still being 1017 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:08.880 reimbursed heavily for any kind of COVID infection or any 1018 00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.400 COVID patient until March of twenty twenty two, and then 1019 00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:16.760 when that reimbursement stopped, boom, like right after that date, 1020 00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:20.880 the number of reported COVID cases in the country plummeted 1021 00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:24.519 by like ninety percent because there was just no incentive 1022 00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:28.360 to be reporting COVID cases anymore. It was like, oh, okay, 1023 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:29.679 I guess the pandemic's over. 1024 00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:33.000 We would yeah, I remember, we even had an episode 1025 00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:36.559 about it. They were attributing car wreck deaths to COVID 1026 00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.880 because the person driving probably had COVID which impaired him 1027 00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:42.280 at the wheel, which caused him direct boom. COVID death 1028 00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:45.599 confirmed it was. They were getting ridiculous with it because, 1029 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:48.639 like you said, the government was subsidizing the hospitals for 1030 00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:52.119 anything COVID related, so they were grasping a straws to 1031 00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:53.719 try to make as much money as possible. 1032 00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:57.880 It was, yeah, very wild, and I forgot about that. 1033 00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:02.199 The COVID deaths just dropped off right after that report 1034 00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:04.280 came out, So that checks out. 1035 00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.000 Uh huh, yeah right. I don't think that can happen 1036 00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:11.960 again anytime soon because there was a unique high trust 1037 00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:16.119 situation at the beginning of this panic, when most people 1038 00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:21.039 trusted the CDC and the WHO, and they figured okay, yeah, 1039 00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.519 two weeks to flatten the curve, and then it turned 1040 00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:27.000 into what it turned into. But if they try to 1041 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:29.320 pull this again, I'm glad I live in Texas now 1042 00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:32.559 instead of California because the mask mandates are never coming 1043 00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:35.480 back there, there's immediately going to be a huge critical 1044 00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.920 mass of the population that just says no. It may 1045 00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.599 not be even fifty percent, but it'll be thirty percent. 1046 00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:44.719 It won't be the tiny one or two percent minority 1047 00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.039 that it was at the beginning of twenty twenty. 1048 00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:49.840 No, although I will say, if they do try to 1049 00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.599 do the mask mandates again, I'm going to just be 1050 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:57.000 wearing a beef vendetta mask NonStop, because that was what 1051 00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.119 I did. A couple of times people looked at me 1052 00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:02.599 like I was crazy for doing that. It was equally 1053 00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:05.400 as crazy to be wearing the cloth masks and things. 1054 00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:08.119 But yeah, I was the weirdo, which is fine. I 1055 00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:11.079 like being the weirdo in that regard. But I mean, 1056 00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.400 I have a hard time believing that unless unless some 1057 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:17.760 new thing comes out, and yes, they keep saying monkey 1058 00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:20.679 pox is gonna take over and this new ah, what 1059 00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:21.159 was it? 1060 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.159 Not ebola was a swine blue bird flu, that was it. 1061 00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:26.280 Yeah, one of the old ones. It's an oldie, but 1062 00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:29.960 goody as far as these people are concerned, if that 1063 00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:35.039 was to actually start causing deaths, like, no, bullshit, No, 1064 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.280 narratives to try to fudge and spend, you know, into 1065 00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:42.440 other stories. If it was confirmed that, like you went 1066 00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.320 to the doctor, you felt run down and you had 1067 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:48.000 this weird thing going on. My phone just gave me 1068 00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:50.920 the thumbs up, and it was confirmed that this was 1069 00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:54.559 bird flu related, impox related. Tuberculosis is on the rise 1070 00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:56.559 in America right now. If it was TB related, some 1071 00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:59.159 new strain of it or whatever the case, and you 1072 00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:01.400 knew for sure, or if you got this, you had 1073 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:03.400 like a fifty to fifty shot of dying and it 1074 00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:05.559 wasn't just what the news told you. You actually were 1075 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:09.000 witnessing people die. Maybe they would take the mask thing 1076 00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:12.599 or the six feet apart or whatever mandates the government 1077 00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.239 gave a little more seriously. But I think that that 1078 00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.559 was what they were trying to go for with COVID. 1079 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:19.360 I think they just took a big swing and a miss, 1080 00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:23.079 And thankfully it's now coming out to be confirmed. COVID 1081 00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.760 was designed in a lab. It wasn't from a bat 1082 00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:28.280 that was eaten and mutated and blah blah blah blah. 1083 00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:32.039 It was absolutely man made. I'm very happy that that 1084 00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:34.559 narrative has finally been put to bed. 1085 00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:42.320 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But plagues drive people crazy literally, and 1086 00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:46.360 there have been many plagues throughout history that you can 1087 00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:49.880 read about, and people didn't really know about germ theory 1088 00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:53.920 back then, but whenever the Black Death was going around people, 1089 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:57.840 really it taps into the same region of your brain 1090 00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:02.840 that's attached to religion and politics and nutrition and healthcare. 1091 00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:06.960 So uh yeah, it became. It became this big movement 1092 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:09.519 in Europe for people to beat themselves up in response 1093 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:12.880 to the Black Plague, and the Catholic Church tried to 1094 00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:15.679 ban it, and people were doing it anyway, but people 1095 00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:19.000 feel like, oh, this is punishment against us for some 1096 00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:22.079 kind of sin, like electing Donald Trump. I think that's 1097 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.559 how liberals kind of felt about it, even if they 1098 00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:28.280 couldn't verbalize it that way. So they said, we must suffer, 1099 00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:32.159 we must we must repent of this sin. I think 1100 00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:34.760 that's what was going on subconsciously. I can't prove it, 1101 00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:38.320 but people react thicknesses this way throughout history. 1102 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:40.760 I think it absolutely is connected. 1103 00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:44.159 I mean because, and I mean not to just pull 1104 00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:49.159 from the Jews here, but their religious practice tells them 1105 00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:53.400 to wash a certain way, eat certain foods. It gives 1106 00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:56.719 them a basis to live off of which, if you 1107 00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.000 look at it, actually was like a very early form 1108 00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:02.840 of what we would now called hygiene. But to them, 1109 01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:06.239 I don't know how many Jewish people were hit with 1110 01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:08.119 the black plague when the time came or whatever, But 1111 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:13.519 I mean religious dogmas dictate how people live their lives. 1112 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.119 Some of them teach you to eat whatever, drink whatever, 1113 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:21.639 bathe whenever, it doesn't really matter. Some of them teach 1114 01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.000 you to bathe yourself in a specific way, put on 1115 01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:27.519 your clothing in a specific way, eat things of a 1116 01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:31.039 certain variety. And it kind of does play into that regard. 1117 01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:36.719 So to say that the pandemics, the plagues, the whatever 1118 01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:40.239 hit people to a religious and a political and a 1119 01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:43.480 whatever mindset, I absolutely agree that it hits to the 1120 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:46.599 same portion of the brain. Har G, you, being the 1121 01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:48.599 resident Jew, please speak in on this brother. 1122 01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:49.679 Well. 1123 01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:52.119 It's just something that's very interesting is that the Tora 1124 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:58.119 actually talks about quarantine itself. So there was a something 1125 01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:02.360 called sarats, which essentially some people translate as leprosy, but 1126 01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:07.440 other people translate it is differently, that if a certain 1127 01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:10.159 person got this certain mark on their on their skin, 1128 01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:14.880 they would then be put into their houses for I 1129 01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:17.519 think a couple of days or a couple of weeks, 1130 01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.800 then the high priests would check on them in like 1131 01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:23.320 seven days. And maybe it was so they're like there 1132 01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:25.800 were there were various things to do, either one or another. 1133 01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:31.519 So so for sure, So besides the rabbinic aspect of 1134 01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:33.920 how to wash your hands and how to put on 1135 01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.760 clothing and stuff, the tour itself actually talks about quarantine. 1136 01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:42.800 So yeah, and I mean that's not just for the 1137 01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:46.920 Jews here. Zoroastrians, for instance, they believe that fire is 1138 01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:50.840 the only thing that can purify objects. Now, to be 1139 01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:58.239 fair scientifically and uh germ theory in mind, that is correct. Now, 1140 01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:00.239 that's not the only way by any means, but it 1141 01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.679 is a way of making sure that certain things we 1142 01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:07.199 would now call sterile they would call spiritually pure. Okay, 1143 01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:12.440 same thing, different connotation here the Islamic faith, they have 1144 01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:15.000 certain things about which hand they use for certain things. 1145 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.199 And no, I'm not saying that to throw jokes. There's 1146 01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:19.199 tons of jokes on that when I get it. But 1147 01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:22.280 my point is for people to have a religious or 1148 01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:26.599 societal way of doing things, a systemic within their culture 1149 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:31.039 would lead to why certain plagues and certain sicknesses hit 1150 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.800 certain areas harder than others. And I absolutely agree with you, 1151 01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:37.559 Tony that this is indicative of why it hits the 1152 01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:40.559 brain in the same way. And yeah, if I'm not mistaken, 1153 01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:42.599 help me out. By the way, do you care if 1154 01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:43.840 I call you by your first name or you want 1155 01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:45.360 me a role with hard g I don't care you 1156 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:49.519 the way you can, Okay. So I mean even to 1157 01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:52.599 the realm of like eating pork because it has the 1158 01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:56.280 worm that can't be killed by fire. Now, on paper, 1159 01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:00.519 that's insane, but also we now know that, especially in 1160 01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:04.000 the old days, that was accurate. They didn't know that 1161 01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.079 pork had these kinds of parasites and all of these things. 1162 01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:09.400 They didn't know to call it parasites or whatever. They 1163 01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:11.519 just know that their higher power told them not to 1164 01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:12.920 eat it because there was a worm in it that 1165 01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:15.519 they didn't know how to kill it fire. Come to 1166 01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:17.679 find out, it was absolutely true. We didn't know about 1167 01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:24.639 the internal cooking temperature until millennia later, millennia's later, washing 1168 01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:26.719 your hands with running water, all these things kind of 1169 01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:28.719 played into it. I don't know if you know your 1170 01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:30.800 Jewish history, but do you know if the Jews were 1171 01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:34.000 like smacked down with the Black plague equal to their 1172 01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:37.599 other European counterparts, or were they hit a little less? 1173 01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:43.480 I vague so vaguely. I do remember that the Jews, 1174 01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:46.440 I think it was a little bit less. There was 1175 01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:49.119 less of it. And I think this goes back to 1176 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.440 the idea of some sort of quarantine, that there's somebody 1177 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.880 who got sick, like they would segregate them and then 1178 01:03:55.760 --> 01:04:00.800 after they got better. Fantastic if not, not know for sure, 1179 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:01.719 no doubt. 1180 01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:08.599 So now cut to today's world, right, with some new plague, 1181 01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:13.920 some new pandemic slash plandemic slash whatever. Right, I believe 1182 01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:19.480 that our modern medicine and our modern standards for hygiene 1183 01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:22.719 would kind of annount mean we as in Christians or 1184 01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:26.119 Jews or whatever, I mean, just the Western world. I 1185 01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:29.000 think by and large we would probably be able to 1186 01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:32.039 handle it without the need of outside help. And I 1187 01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:36.280 think if anything, COVID proved that we cannot trust the 1188 01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:39.559 quote unquote medical professionals whenever they're pushing some sort of 1189 01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:44.679 new experimental antidote, vaccine, whatever the case is, that's supposedly 1190 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.519 a one shot cure all for this new scary thing 1191 01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:50.280 that's around the corner. I think if anything, people will 1192 01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:53.280 rely more heavily on just washing their hands more. Maybe 1193 01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:57.639 they will enact their own social distancing or their own quarantine. 1194 01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:00.199 I don't know. Again, that would all depend on if 1195 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:04.199 and when the new sickness makes its way into the 1196 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.840 main populace, if it was bad enough for people to 1197 01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:10.199 even be concerned about it anymore. I mean, there's a 1198 01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:11.800 lot of things to unpacked there and a lot of 1199 01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:14.199 things to break down with tons of nuances. I get it. 1200 01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:16.519 But I think that most people are just kind of 1201 01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:17.920 over the bullshit. 1202 01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:22.039 Right, And this is what Jay Bidacharia was calling focused protection. 1203 01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:25.760 Don't lock down the whole country, just quarantine the people 1204 01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:29.480 who do get sick. That was the historic response to 1205 01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:33.360 things like this, and just way back in the day 1206 01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:35.920 before jerum theory. This is kind of elaborating a little bit, 1207 01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.840 but people would just figure, oh, the gods must be 1208 01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:41.719 mad at us. God must be mad at us. Who's 1209 01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.119 gonna save us? And they would look to their priests 1210 01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:49.559 for guidance. And I think health wise doctors and the 1211 01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:53.800 CDC authority figures like this have kind of acted like 1212 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.679 a modern day priestly class, and a lot of people 1213 01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:00.360 really look up to them and think I just need 1214 01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:02.800 to follow this advice and I'll be healthy. But I 1215 01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:06.079 think their credibility was severely damaged. And I'm sure we 1216 01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:08.519 all agree on that. I won't belabor the point anymore. 1217 01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:10.920 That's just the last thing I wanted to say. 1218 01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:12.639 I agree with you one hundred percent. 1219 01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:17.039 I mean, it's not like the quote unquote educated men 1220 01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.440 of the past were one hundred percent accurate. I mean, 1221 01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:24.159 fuck Isaac Newton, who was one of the most brilliant 1222 01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:27.000 men ever in all these things. He died from drinking 1223 01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:31.440 mercury because he was trying to find the philosopher's stone 1224 01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:35.599 to live forever. So I mean it's, you know, ancient Rome. 1225 01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:39.599 For all of their brilliance that they had. Their version 1226 01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:44.159 of a sports drink was lie and water, which is poisoned. 1227 01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:46.480 So I mean, you know, and they were drinking out 1228 01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:50.920 of lead cups for all of their things. We know 1229 01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:54.239 so many more things these days than they did back then. 1230 01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:57.079 I think that we will be fine, you know. 1231 01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:03.599 And we eat tons of soy and hys corn syrup 1232 01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:06.280 and people are gonna look back on us, yeah, or 1233 01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:08.760 the same kind of things. It's like, how could they 1234 01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:09.559 best dumb? 1235 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:11.679 Yeah, that's also kind of crazy. 1236 01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:16.199 I really liked your episode on Yeah, dude, I appreciate 1237 01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:18.039 that that was kind of a shout out of a cannon. 1238 01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:20.880 We didn't have a lot of planning and prep time 1239 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:22.599 for that. We had a guess that canceled on us 1240 01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:25.400 last minute. So I had found a couple of things 1241 01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:28.280 that I knew a few of the dangers of soy, 1242 01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.280 and I knew a couple of the articles that we 1243 01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:32.639 had talked about. I had heard those talking points before, 1244 01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:37.400 I had never actually done a true dive into it 1245 01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:40.199 for myself. I try to keep away from soy just 1246 01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:45.079 because I knew that it does. It doesn't create more estrogen, 1247 01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:49.639 but the molecules inside of it act like an estrogen. 1248 01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:53.559 Your body receives it the same way, very similar to 1249 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:59.079 how high fructose corn syrup and sugar nutritionally allegedly, Big 1250 01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:03.400 Big alleged underlined italicized asterix the whole nine on this 1251 01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:08.480 word here, allegedly, your body consumes it and processes it 1252 01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:12.360 in the exact same way. Now, I may personally think 1253 01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:15.559 that there's a little bit of a lie underlined with that, 1254 01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:20.720 but per the quote unquote, scientists and nutritionalists they they 1255 01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.199 they break down in your body the same way, and 1256 01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:28.199 you can get diabetes from overdoing hyped fruitcose corn syrup 1257 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:30.760 just as easily as you can from overdoing it with 1258 01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:35.199 processed sugar or sugar in general, honestly, but the same way. 1259 01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:38.000 Soy has a chemical compound in it that is not 1260 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:41.520 actual estrogen, but it's your body sees it the same 1261 01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:44.439 way and will up the testosterone and up its own 1262 01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:47.680 estrogen production to match it. So it does in fact 1263 01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:51.399 make men more effeminate. And on the flip side of that, 1264 01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:52.600 and I don't even know if he talked about this 1265 01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:57.399 in the episode, it actually makes women more masculine because 1266 01:08:57.439 --> 01:09:01.520 it ups their estrogen content or UH levels, so their 1267 01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:05.560 body will overproduce testosterone to match it. Except it's not estrogen, 1268 01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:08.399 so it overdoes the testosterone in that regard, and it's 1269 01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:11.520 it's very bad for us. It's very wild how and 1270 01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:12.840 why they use it. 1271 01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:14.359 In so many of our products. 1272 01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:17.359 Have y'all gone in y'all's pantries and just viewed how 1273 01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:19.399 much of it has soy products in it? 1274 01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:26.159 Actually I don't have that much, really, yeah, because I 1275 01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:27.840 deliberately don't buy it. 1276 01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:29.760 Good for you, Tony, you've been ahead of the curve 1277 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:32.159 from day one, Royce, So what about to you? Brother? 1278 01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:37.000 So now that I am doing much better with than 1279 01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:40.159 my nutrition, it's getting getting better. I'm also listening to 1280 01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:42.680 your episode about that. I was like, yeah, I've got 1281 01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:46.560 to do my best to cut this shit out. So basically, 1282 01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:49.239 one of the things that my personal trainer told me 1283 01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:53.119 is that like, if if it's as natural from the 1284 01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:58.279 ground or meat pulture or whatever, do it that way, 1285 01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:02.920 so like natural grain as opposed to like being overly processed. 1286 01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:06.199 You know, meat that looks like meat, vegetables that look 1287 01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:09.800 like vegetables. So that's why I am trying to go 1288 01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:12.199 a lot perfect No, but it was just looking through 1289 01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:15.760 the pantry in general, or just most Americans, it is 1290 01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:19.720 as used that filled with nonsense and garbage, even even 1291 01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:22.079 the coaching stuff. And that's really funny. If people are like, 1292 01:10:22.119 --> 01:10:26.000 hey you need coaches that really no honey buns or 1293 01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:31.279 kosher oreos are dude, I promise you there's there's a 1294 01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:33.560 circle U on it. There's actually I'll go in to 1295 01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:35.600 it with you later, but there's actually a way you 1296 01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:38.840 can tell if something is coachher or not by looking 1297 01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:43.640 at the There's a there's a certain mark, because there 1298 01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:49.039 there are organizations that actually go into various plants to 1299 01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:52.239 supervise it. As long and as long as it is 1300 01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:56.720 orthodoxy revision, like, there will be a various different marks. 1301 01:10:56.720 --> 01:10:59.880 So like a star K, a circle, K a circle you. 1302 01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:04.159 So there there's literally when I tell you there are thousands, 1303 01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:07.439 there there are like there's like big corporations. Then you 1304 01:11:07.479 --> 01:11:10.920 have like little community communal rabbis. They get together and 1305 01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:13.840 they okay, well let's go and see if all the 1306 01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:17.239 ingredients are kosher. But yeah, uh eatn kocher has absolutely 1307 01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:21.720 zero to do with health. As I said, like cheerios, 1308 01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:29.520 honey buns, oreos, not most garbage is kosher just because 1309 01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:33.359 the ingredients are not a problem. 1310 01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:35.720 They're not expressly forbidden, therefore they're okay. 1311 01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:38.760 Right. I didn't say that again, please. 1312 01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:41.920 I said they're not expressly forbidden, therefore they're okay. 1313 01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:42.239 Right. 1314 01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:48.560 So it's more that the ingredients do don't contain four products, 1315 01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:52.840 animal products or anything or any kind of shell fish. 1316 01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:55.840 As far as chemicals, I don't know, but I'm also 1317 01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:59.119 not a not a rabbi and not an expert completely. 1318 01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:04.800 But like so in like sugar, like a sugar plant, 1319 01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:09.680 whatever will have a kosher symbol and you just look 1320 01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:12.479 at how how it's made. Basically, their rabbis will go 1321 01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:17.000 into any plant and they will be given the uh 1322 01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:21.439 the ingredients and uh so they will they will determine 1323 01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:23.640 whether or not it is and and they know like 1324 01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:26.760 all these you know, compounds. The funny part is is 1325 01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:30.439 as far as coca cola, there are different rabbis that 1326 01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:33.800 they that they actually pick because they don't want one 1327 01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:37.760 person knowing all the ingredients, so they have like different 1328 01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:41.239 organizations or different rabbis. So that's kind of a funny thing. 1329 01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:46.760 Also during passover, coca cola is made differently. It's actually 1330 01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:50.199 made with actual sugar as opposed to corn. 1331 01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:53.640 Syrup, so you'll have to use the quote unquote real 1332 01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:57.359 coke for passover. That's pretty cool. 1333 01:12:57.560 --> 01:13:02.000 So it's it's the difference between actual sugar and the 1334 01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:05.640 high fruitose corn syrup which we're not allowed to consume 1335 01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:06.439 on passover. 1336 01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:10.359 You're not allowed to consume high fruitose corn syrup on passover. 1337 01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:16.039 No, So like one we are not allowed to eat 1338 01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:19.159 like Levenae products or and we're things that we have 1339 01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:22.800 a tradition for us and interesting enough, So depending on 1340 01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:27.159 whether you're askenazic ASPARTI. Sometimes some of the rules not 1341 01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:34.439 don't not change. But like so for example, Spartan they 1342 01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:39.239 have no problem eating like legumes on Passover as opposed 1343 01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:43.560 to someone who's a can'ts So like even sometimes the 1344 01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:48.920 mazza might be slightly different one way or the other 1345 01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:52.479 just because of depending on where you're from, you'll have 1346 01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:55.720 different traditions as to what that means. 1347 01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.159 That's interesting. I didn't know this, Tony. I didn't mean 1348 01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:00.800 to cut you off if you had question for him. 1349 01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:04.439 Oh, I was saying, I assumed that any plant would 1350 01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:07.319 be kosher, but I guess not, and I'm glad to 1351 01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:09.199 learn that. I figure. 1352 01:14:11.279 --> 01:14:14.279 So basically, like so, any plant that's from the earth 1353 01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:18.840 asult is unprocessed as one of present kosher. Basically, once 1354 01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:21.720 you start to process it and it goes through a 1355 01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:25.439 plants and it and once you start adding human hands 1356 01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.720 is when you need the supervision one way or the other. 1357 01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:34.800 That's interesting because sugar is absolutely processed. Hell, the reason 1358 01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:36.319 me and Tony know each other is because I was 1359 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:39.039 working at a sugar refinery. Tony was one of our 1360 01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:40.920 company reps that will come out and do stuff for 1361 01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:42.720 us from time to time and work on stuff for 1362 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:46.279 us and certify pieces of equipment. So I can tell 1363 01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:49.000 you for sure, sugar, at least the sugar that goes 1364 01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:53.840 into Cokes white sugar is one hundred percent uh dealt 1365 01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:57.479 with by human hands. That's crazy that that is considered kosher. 1366 01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:59.960 But high fruit does cornsrup isn't that. 1367 01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:05.039 So it's not that it's not considered kosure just but 1368 01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:10.359 during that period it's time you can only use something 1369 01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:15.239 that's actually that's not corn syruved, just because of how 1370 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:19.680 they are how they define leavening products. 1371 01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:22.199 It might also have to do with the process itself. 1372 01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:24.239 I will say that as far as how they make sugar, 1373 01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:27.880 it's literally just water like there was no chemicals used 1374 01:15:27.960 --> 01:15:29.680 anywhere on site, which is why I could have this 1375 01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:32.640 beard for anybody who works in the chemical and oil 1376 01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:37.319 refinery system, and in that industry you cannot have facial 1377 01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:40.239 or at certain places you can, but most often you cannot. 1378 01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:42.000 In case you need to put on a respirator if 1379 01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:45.159 they have a chlorine leak two units over, you need 1380 01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:46.920 to be able to put an escape respirator on, and 1381 01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:49.119 that not always can be something that can be worn 1382 01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:51.239 with a beard. Sometimes they have the mouthpiece respirators. But 1383 01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:55.319 I digress. For where we worked not there was literally 1384 01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:58.560 zero harmful chemicals everywhere. There was some chemicals we have 1385 01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:00.560 put in our water for a lot, you know, to 1386 01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:03.880 keep the algae from forming and stuff. But everything else 1387 01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:08.279 was just cooking and boiling and steaming out the raw 1388 01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:11.279 sugar to get to white sugar. So maybe there's something 1389 01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:13.720 to that. How they take corn and turn it into 1390 01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:14.920 high fruitose CORNSRT. 1391 01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:17.279 Maybe there's some you know, dissemination into what. 1392 01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:22.720 Other outside uh outside agents are used in the process. 1393 01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:25.239 I'm not really familiar with it, but that also kind 1394 01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:31.760 of makes sense, right, Interesting, you're teaching us new stuff here, Royce. 1395 01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:35.600 I swear I'm glad you're you're our in house Jewish correspondent. 1396 01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:38.239 You know, I'm glad that I can contribute some way. 1397 01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:42.439 Hell yeah, dude. Now with that being in said, you're 1398 01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:44.920 talking about like the circle, k the stark, the circle. 1399 01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:45.600 U sure. 1400 01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:50.159 And I know you're not speaking on behalf of Islamic 1401 01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:51.159 by any means. 1402 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:54.279 But kosher and halal usually get brought up into the 1403 01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:57.079 same conversation. Yes, I know they are very very different, 1404 01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:01.199 but is their symbols for halal stuff as well, there 1405 01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:01.960 are most people. 1406 01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:07.199 They're there. There for sure are symbols for halal, but 1407 01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:10.560 obviously very very very different standards to where like you 1408 01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:14.119 can't eat shellfish, and I know that there that there 1409 01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:17.199 have been that as long as it's not pork, like 1410 01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:20.800 sometimes like you'll have like baby clans will have a 1411 01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:24.640 halal symbol on it because it's not pork. So so 1412 01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:29.000 so interestingly enough, so somebody who keeves halal can eat 1413 01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:31.800 anything that that that let's say they're strictly halal, right, 1414 01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:35.119 not these ones that like bullshit and half pascet right, 1415 01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:39.399 so you any person who really is halal can't eat kosher, 1416 01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:42.880 but it cannot be the other area. So somebody who 1417 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:45.880 eats kochher if they see something that that says halal 1418 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.760 on it, like no, no winner. 1419 01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:50.199 Right, that's it. 1420 01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:53.520 I didn't know that that people of the Islamic faith 1421 01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:57.239 could eat shellfish. I've never really doved into it. I 1422 01:17:57.279 --> 01:17:59.880 know that the pork is pretty much outright across the board. 1423 01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:03.319 I know that as far as meat products are concerned, 1424 01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:06.560 like beef, if you if something is hulal, I know 1425 01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:08.760 that kosher you could also eat it. Because it's like 1426 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:10.760 there's even less blood in the meat if it's all 1427 01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:11.840 all but. 1428 01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:18.800 Really because so so meat is very complicated according to 1429 01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:24.159 the Jewish way, because not so the similar to hulal, 1430 01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:27.279 the meat needs to be killed in a certain fashion, 1431 01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:33.079 right so the blood does does need to be drawn brained. 1432 01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:37.880 It's also soaked and also salted and also needs to 1433 01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:44.279 be under specific people. Uh, they're called shokts. So people 1434 01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:48.199 that actually are trained in how ritual slaughter earths as 1435 01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:50.800 you would say in English. So these people that are 1436 01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:56.399 trained in this manner like so you also you'll have 1437 01:18:56.560 --> 01:19:02.600 Jews that won't even have that won't even eat meat 1438 01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:05.239 from certain areas, right. So, like there are some people 1439 01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:09.399 who are McCall ultra or ultra ultra Orthodox, like they 1440 01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:12.319 will only have meat from this slaughter because they know 1441 01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:15.760 that person is God fearing and he does everything correctly. 1442 01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:21.960 You also have organization that saved with the meat coachure. 1443 01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:25.279 That's not so you've heard. I'm sure of Hebrew nationals, 1444 01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:31.520 right most orthos, you will not touch it. They will 1445 01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:34.560 not touch it because of the organization that does. It 1446 01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:39.560 is not as intense, is not it doesn't inspect some 1447 01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:45.399 of the things that other organizations do. So like yeah, 1448 01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:49.960 so that's that is kind of funny. Most most worth 1449 01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:52.399 docks us will not touch it with a ten football. 1450 01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:55.800 They'll be like, yeah, Koz are ish, but not good 1451 01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:58.439 enough for the majority of standards to blow them. 1452 01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:02.920 My mind right now, dude, I thought that was kind 1453 01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:04.640 of the flip opposite as far as like the beef 1454 01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:07.840 was concerned. Although I can understand, like if, like you said, 1455 01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:11.720 the ultra orthodox, they'll go to their slaughter er because 1456 01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:14.359 they know this guy and they're not personally, but they 1457 01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:16.319 know at least their quality and they know things are 1458 01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:17.079 done by the book. 1459 01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:21.159 And it's I get all that, but I forget where 1460 01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:21.399 I saw. 1461 01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:23.199 It was a quick little you know, there's little mini 1462 01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:25.960 documentaries you'll see on YouTube from time to time, and 1463 01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:31.720 it was showing how a regular steak, a kosher steak, 1464 01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:36.279 and a hallal steak, the whull all left unrefrigerating whatever else, 1465 01:20:36.399 --> 01:20:40.479 actually rotted slower than the other two. Because the story 1466 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:42.760 at least was that there was less blood in the 1467 01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:45.680 hallal steak, and that was kind of a portion as 1468 01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:47.359 to why it was done this way. I didn't know 1469 01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:51.399 all these other things, So okay, you really have to 1470 01:20:51.439 --> 01:20:53.479 test the source before you put it in your body 1471 01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:57.039 or into your temple. Okay, And to that regard, this 1472 01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:00.159 is why I think certain communities got hit less by 1473 01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:02.680 the plandemics and by plagues of the past. This all 1474 01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:03.560 kind of ties in. 1475 01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:08.880 Sure. Wow, so. 1476 01:21:10.520 --> 01:21:14.359 Hmm, yeah, Okay, that that kind of checks out. Wow, 1477 01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:17.439 you've been You've been kind of silent on this one. 1478 01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:19.000 Do you have any questions that you would like to 1479 01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:19.640 chime in with? 1480 01:21:21.479 --> 01:21:23.000 Oh, I'm just listening right now. 1481 01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:27.800 I'm I have like a totally different dietary stuff with mine. So, 1482 01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:32.359 and there's product Their stuff is made with tons of 1483 01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:36.880 soybean and oils, and it's damn near impossible to find 1484 01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:40.840 stuff that doesn't have uh, it's not made with that. 1485 01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:45.000 So because of the gluten and dairy free stuff, like, 1486 01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:48.159 there's not many options. So it's it's a whole pain 1487 01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:50.800 in the ass. 1488 01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:51.239 No doubt. Okay. 1489 01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:55.479 Is gluten a part of the Jewish restrictions? 1490 01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:57.239 How does that tie mean? 1491 01:21:58.199 --> 01:21:58.319 So? 1492 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.600 I've looked up exactly what gluten is forgiving, I don't 1493 01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:04.960 remember off the toime I head. Gluten for sure is 1494 01:22:05.039 --> 01:22:08.279 kosher because when I used to make my bread I 1495 01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:11.199 follow for Friday and actually add gluten to it because 1496 01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:12.880 it would make the bread more doughey. 1497 01:22:13.560 --> 01:22:16.560 So well, Sidney buns were kosher, so yeah, nevermind. 1498 01:22:16.600 --> 01:22:20.760 Gluten is absolutely blessed by the rabbinical class for sure. 1499 01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.279 A lot of beer to the coacher too. 1500 01:22:23.359 --> 01:22:24.239 So mm hmm. 1501 01:22:25.159 --> 01:22:32.079 Yeah, it's an all wheat, barley, rye, and spelt and 1502 01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:33.000 another one. 1503 01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:39.640 Oh, so the five grains we know, so rye, oats, spelt, barley, 1504 01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:42.239 and rye. 1505 01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:46.279 Well, I'm pretty sure my wife gets gluten free oats. 1506 01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:50.800 It's just that oats are often processed in proximity to wheat. 1507 01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:53.840 But you can get gluten free oats, I'm pretty sure. 1508 01:22:54.760 --> 01:22:55.119 Mm hmm. 1509 01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:58.039 Okay, can we just use them today? 1510 01:22:58.279 --> 01:23:01.479 No? No, but she she is allergic to gluten and 1511 01:23:01.560 --> 01:23:04.319 she found out twenty ten. She was one of the 1512 01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:06.760 early ones. I'd never heard of gluten before I met her. 1513 01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:10.600 Okay, and then Raven, you said that y'all actually just 1514 01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:12.159 had gluten free oats today. 1515 01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:15.000 Yeah, we have a big bag of them. 1516 01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:17.920 They're gluten free and they have like the certified gluten 1517 01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:21.000 free on it and all this stuff. So they've come 1518 01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:23.560 out with a whole bunch of news stuff too over 1519 01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:26.800 the last few years. The problem is that you just 1520 01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:28.960 have to be like really careful, like if you read 1521 01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:32.039 the ingredients, just kind of understanding the ingredients and making 1522 01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:34.560 sure you're not just using pure chemical stuff. 1523 01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:37.039 But the general mills. 1524 01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:40.119 I think it is rolled oats, bob Op's red. 1525 01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:41.199 Mill, bob Bread's mill. 1526 01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:46.039 That's what it is, is the rolled oats gluten free one. 1527 01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:48.640 Well, it's also not too difficult to be gluten free 1528 01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:50.880 if you eat a lot of Asian food like rice. 1529 01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:54.439 I was just about to ask, is rice gluten? I 1530 01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:57.600 know I'm asking completely out of ignorance here. I thought 1531 01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:00.680 gluten is just pretty much the stuff that makes food good. 1532 01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:02.640 Like MSG, you know what I mean. But like, so 1533 01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:04.399 rice is not gluten. 1534 01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:08.840 Yeah, rice is gluten free. Corn is gluten free. Sorghum 1535 01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:11.119 is gluten free. There's lots of other different kinds of 1536 01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:13.760 grains out there, But if you eat Asian food or 1537 01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:17.279 Mexican food, it's pretty easy to be a gluten free 1538 01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:21.319 that way. Gluten it's mainly in wheat. Wheat is about 1539 01:24:21.319 --> 01:24:25.520 ten percent gluten. It's the glycoprotein that makes it really sticky. 1540 01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:29.159 Barley's got less than wheat. Rice got less than barley. 1541 01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:32.079 I don't know what spelts got in it. And beer 1542 01:24:32.159 --> 01:24:36.279 has a kind of relatively low gluten because the fermentation 1543 01:24:37.039 --> 01:24:39.960 really knocks it down to like ten parts per million. 1544 01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:43.520 But straight wheat is like one hundred thousand parts per million. 1545 01:24:43.640 --> 01:24:45.880 It's like ten percent really high. 1546 01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:50.560 So Royce with kosher beer? How does I know that 1547 01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:52.960 there is kosher beers? There's a place in bad Roots 1548 01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:56.000 called Chimes. They had what it's like a wall of beers. 1549 01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:58.640 It's like five hundred or one thousand different beers, and 1550 01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:01.840 I remember seeing one that was like they even said kosher, 1551 01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:03.520 and I was like, does it tastes different? So I 1552 01:25:03.640 --> 01:25:05.439 ordered it, you know back when I did drink, and 1553 01:25:05.479 --> 01:25:07.560 it was it didn't taste any different. It tasted like 1554 01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:11.239 a well made beer. But what is the thing about it. 1555 01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:16.640 All? So whenever something is advertised as kocher all day, 1556 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:20.800 all that means is that facility that plant is under 1557 01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:25.159 orthodoxual rebinding supervision. That's literally all it means. 1558 01:25:25.399 --> 01:25:27.479 When you say supervision, do you mean they have like 1559 01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:31.119 a Jewish rabbi as like a lead foreman on a 1560 01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:33.560 certain shift, or do you mean like within the realm 1561 01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:37.359 of the you know, the office people of this facility, 1562 01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:40.000 there's a rabbi, Like what do you mean. 1563 01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:44.279 For the most part, what it means as that. Okay, 1564 01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:48.880 so let's just say you have a company, a beer company, right. 1565 01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:53.760 They want to try to advertise for more people, right, 1566 01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:59.600 so they will call up various groups to try give 1567 01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:02.039 them best deal. And basically what they do is they 1568 01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:04.960 will find one that they like, that they believe is reputable. 1569 01:26:05.479 --> 01:26:09.640 They will call a company, They will pay that company 1570 01:26:10.119 --> 01:26:13.279 a certain amount of money per year, and then that 1571 01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:18.560 company would would go to the facility. After they went 1572 01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:22.279 to the facility, they would just again check to make 1573 01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:25.680 sure that there's no shell product, animal products, and all 1574 01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:28.840 the ingredients are good. And then basically they will say, 1575 01:26:28.840 --> 01:26:30.880 all right, well we will put our mark on it, 1576 01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:36.439 and at any point in time, we can do a 1577 01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:38.720 basically a spot check, like we can come in here 1578 01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:41.800 five days a week, you know, six days a week, whatever. 1579 01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:44.439 But like if we come in here and it's not 1580 01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:48.079 running like it's going to, then what we're going to 1581 01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:50.279 do is we are going to put out put your 1582 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:53.920 company on blasts that says this company is bearing an 1583 01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:59.479 unauthorized symbol, and then basically you will be blacklisted. Ish. 1584 01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:01.920 But it's all about all that money and trying to 1585 01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:05.840 advertise to the greatest company. But all that means is 1586 01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:09.000 that you're you're paying a company to put their stamp 1587 01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:12.600 on it that all the increases. There are some companies 1588 01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:17.319 that will never inherently be kosher, I mean, are never 1589 01:27:17.319 --> 01:27:18.439 gonna be kosher. 1590 01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:21.319 Right right, I see what you're saying. You're basically paying 1591 01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:25.119 for the rabbinical class to come. It's not saying that 1592 01:27:25.159 --> 01:27:28.199 it's under their supervision, but you are saying that you 1593 01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:31.600 are within the realm of acceptable behavior, and that you 1594 01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:34.760 have licensed through them, and that they can come and 1595 01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:36.800 audit you at any time to make sure that things 1596 01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:39.239 are I was going to use the term to make 1597 01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:41.439 sure things are kosher. I was gonna use as as, 1598 01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:44.279 but actually per the word here, that's correct. 1599 01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:50.039 So yes, okay, very cool. Okay, So under their. 1600 01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:54.560 Supervision, I e. Within the realm of acceptable behavior, and 1601 01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:56.880 they could send any rabbi to come in and audit 1602 01:27:56.920 --> 01:27:58.319 you in any time to make sure that things are 1603 01:27:58.359 --> 01:27:58.960 on the up and up. 1604 01:27:59.039 --> 01:27:59.880 Okay, this makes sense. 1605 01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:03.000 And then then you and then there are various levels. 1606 01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:07.199 So you have like meats, dairy, and like ParvE, which 1607 01:28:07.239 --> 01:28:09.920 is basically like in between, like water is neither meat 1608 01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:14.319 nor dairy. So you will have different classifications, and even 1609 01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:18.119 when it comes to dairy products itself, like there was 1610 01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:21.600 a general level and then there is a higher level. 1611 01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:24.279 So let's say so the general level as we were 1612 01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:26.359 saying with fore, like you know, the rabbits could come 1613 01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:29.319 in there and just do spot checks, and then you 1614 01:28:29.399 --> 01:28:34.159 have a higher level in which the supervision is literally 1615 01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:39.880 from the milking until it gets to the company itself. Wow, 1616 01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:46.119 and that's more, that's more expansive. Absolutely. 1617 01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:48.560 Another place we used to work, I used to work 1618 01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:50.920 at the sugar refinery. They even they told me a 1619 01:28:50.920 --> 01:28:53.880 story about one time there was a specific order that 1620 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:57.960 was going to some sort of Kosher facility. I'm not 1621 01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:00.279 sure what they were gonna make with this sugar or 1622 01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:02.159 whatever it was, but it was something that was for 1623 01:29:02.279 --> 01:29:06.920 the purpose of going to a Jewish population of consumers. 1624 01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:11.039 And they actually had rabbis come out and bless the 1625 01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:14.199 load so to speak, before it went and shipped out 1626 01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:16.960 to them. So like, there's there's levels to these things 1627 01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:17.439 for sure. 1628 01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:20.319 So it's actually not blessed, believe or not, it's actually 1629 01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:23.000 not blessing has zero to do with it. 1630 01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:24.479 All. 1631 01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:27.199 I think they were just making sure everything was completely sealed. 1632 01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:31.680 They said they gave prayers and shit, I. 1633 01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:33.239 Don't know how accurate that would be. 1634 01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:36.680 I don't know. Again, I'm sure there was like super 1635 01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:39.239 nuances to this, or it was going to a place 1636 01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:41.840 for a specific purpose, to be used to make certain things. 1637 01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:45.319 I have no idea, but this before my time. I 1638 01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:47.520 wasn't there when the rabbis were out there saying the 1639 01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:50.720 words and things. But they had mentioned that at least 1640 01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:54.960 one specific load or one order was absolutely going to 1641 01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:57.039 that purpose. And they had rabbis come out and like 1642 01:29:57.279 --> 01:30:00.560 either maybe they maybe they were doing their spot check, 1643 01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:04.039 like you're saying, and the local Cajun community thought that 1644 01:30:04.039 --> 01:30:07.880 that meant blessing it. I could be completely wrong. The 1645 01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:10.439 place I used to work, these people probably wouldn't know 1646 01:30:10.479 --> 01:30:10.920 the difference. 1647 01:30:11.079 --> 01:30:12.760 I don't know sure. I mean, I'll tell you this, 1648 01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:15.359 When most people talk about kosher, the first thing that 1649 01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:18.319 people say, oh, it's your food's blessed by a rabbi 1650 01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:21.479 like that. That's like generally the first thing that everybody says. 1651 01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:24.960 But that's just not that. But unfortunately that's not accurate. 1652 01:30:25.560 --> 01:30:28.039 Okay, Well damn it. I kind of thought it was cool, 1653 01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:29.439 but never mind, these people just. 1654 01:30:33.159 --> 01:30:38.640 Yes, indeed, all right, So we have talked about nuclear situations, 1655 01:30:38.640 --> 01:30:43.239 We've talked about food issues and things like that. What 1656 01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:45.319 else does everybody have going on that they would like 1657 01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:47.199 to speak on on this evening? 1658 01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:52.439 Well, one more thing about soybeans. Hopefully this is quick 1659 01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:56.720 and also dietary wise. The group I like the most 1660 01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:59.399 is called the Weston Price Institute. If anyone wants to 1661 01:30:59.439 --> 01:31:03.479 google that, I heard it. They're big on meat and 1662 01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:07.079 trying to, you know, minimize grains and stuff. But I 1663 01:31:07.199 --> 01:31:09.920 tried to research the history of soybeans going back a 1664 01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:14.960 long way, and I in China. The way it started 1665 01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:17.840 out was in the Joe dynasty about one thousand BC. 1666 01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:19.279 You talked about this a little bit. 1667 01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:20.039 Uh. 1668 01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:23.479 They were using soybeans because they were great at introducing 1669 01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:27.319 fixed nitrogen into the soil. The majority of nitrogen that 1670 01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:29.520 we deal with is just in the air, and it's 1671 01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:31.960 one of the strongest bonds in nature. The only thing 1672 01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:35.239 that can break it in nature is like lightning and 1673 01:31:35.279 --> 01:31:39.920 a few enzymes and beans. So Chinese people were growing 1674 01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:43.319 the soybeans in order to replenish nitrogen in their soil, 1675 01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:46.760 and they realized that it had the roots of the 1676 01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:49.720 soybean just had a fantastic effect on the soil. So 1677 01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:54.560 when the Joe people invented the character for the soybean, 1678 01:31:54.920 --> 01:31:57.800 it had huge roots. It really emphasized the root structure. 1679 01:31:58.159 --> 01:32:01.159 But it wasn't like other beans that they down that 1680 01:32:01.279 --> 01:32:05.760 were for human consumption. Because they ended up with all 1681 01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:09.000 these beans and they knew that it wasn't really good 1682 01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:11.479 to consume. They tried making some soy milk out of 1683 01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:13.880 it and some other fermented products. They tried using it 1684 01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:17.720 for animal feed, they tried using it as fertilizer. It 1685 01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:20.760 wasn't really that good for much. So Ever, since one 1686 01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:25.079 thousand BC, people have been trying to find a use 1687 01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:29.319 for this stuff, and that's why we have a lot 1688 01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:33.359 of soybean oil now. It's because, well, people have just 1689 01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:35.520 been trying to find a use for it. So that's 1690 01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:39.079 why it's been genetically modified so that it's better for 1691 01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:42.439 human consumption. And it's really high in the fat content too. 1692 01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:49.239 You mentioned it's like for fatty acids, and yeah, it's 1693 01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:53.720 extracted with hexsaye. You mentioned hechsane and why don't they 1694 01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:57.720 use ethanol. The reason is that there's a big phase 1695 01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:01.880 separation in the process where when they up the oil 1696 01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:04.760 floats to the top and then there's this big aqueous 1697 01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:09.159 layer below it that's denser. And if you use hexane 1698 01:33:09.279 --> 01:33:13.840 or an organic solvent like that that's very lipophilic and hydrophobic, 1699 01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:19.239 unlike ethanol. That helps extract all of the fatty acids 1700 01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:23.800 into the organic layer, and then it's got to be 1701 01:33:25.239 --> 01:33:29.600 you know, boiled out under a vacuum. Well, anyway, it's 1702 01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:32.199 just that ever since a thousand BC, people have been 1703 01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:36.039 trying to find some use for these soybeans, and that's 1704 01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:38.920 why there's so much of it. And it's so cheap. Yeah, 1705 01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:41.439 so good for the soil. Oh and one last thing, 1706 01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:43.640 I don't know if you mentioned this in the podcast, 1707 01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:47.159 but a lot of land that used to be used 1708 01:33:47.239 --> 01:33:49.880 for growing tobacco in the United States is used for 1709 01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:52.920 growing soybeans. Now. That's what they did with it because 1710 01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:55.840 there's so little demand for tobacco now by comparison to 1711 01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:59.079 what it was fifty sixty, seventy years ago, but the 1712 01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:01.279 land went to soybeans instead. 1713 01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:04.159 No, you're absolutely correct. A couple of things off of 1714 01:34:04.199 --> 01:34:08.159 what you just said, so I looked it up later. 1715 01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:10.399 I didn't know about the process of why they would 1716 01:34:10.439 --> 01:34:12.760 use hexane over ethanol. But that makes a lot of 1717 01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:15.680 sense to me because ethanol has a higher burn point 1718 01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:19.159 than hexane, so if that was the case, it would 1719 01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:22.239 actually burn off the oils rather than be able to 1720 01:34:22.279 --> 01:34:24.880 heat them to extract them. So I could see that 1721 01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:27.800 being a quote unquote portion of the reason why they 1722 01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:30.600 would use hexhane. But even still, the fact that they 1723 01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:34.800 are using petroleum products in food process that should be, 1724 01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:38.840 if not the biggest, but a massive red flag to 1725 01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:41.239 anybody of like, yeah, you're putting a crude oil by 1726 01:34:41.319 --> 01:34:44.760 product into your body and that's not good. And I 1727 01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:47.039 know people will say, well, yeah, so are the pill 1728 01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:50.439 capsles that we use, those are petroleum based. Yeah, that's 1729 01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:52.560 not good, Like we don't need to do that. 1730 01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:57.199 But yeah, I used to work for a Chevron refinery 1731 01:34:57.319 --> 01:35:01.399 and we sold some food grade oil uberkins. I mean 1732 01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:04.800 well yeah, like food grade lubricants for lubricating hoses and 1733 01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:08.600 stuff at McDonald's. Yeah, and that stuff. Get back to 1734 01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:12.720 what we said earlier, it was actually kosher and tarive certified. 1735 01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:15.640 It had the little symbols on it. This was base 1736 01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:19.680 oil from underground but refined to the point it was 1737 01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:24.319 considered safe for human consumptions. So we sold that. 1738 01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:25.680 That blows my mind. 1739 01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:27.399 And even the place I used to work with, the 1740 01:35:28.199 --> 01:35:30.560 everything we had to it was food grade. Like we 1741 01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.239 couldn't use WD forty on certain things. We couldn't use 1742 01:35:33.279 --> 01:35:36.319 kroll to break loose rusted bolts and stuff because that 1743 01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:39.199 wasn't food grade. But the stuff we could use that 1744 01:35:39.359 --> 01:35:43.640 was quote unquote food grade was very much toxic and 1745 01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:46.520 you could not eat it. So and then when you 1746 01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:48.840 look at what it actually was consistent of it, it 1747 01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:52.399 was still petroleum based. It was just a quote unquote 1748 01:35:52.479 --> 01:35:57.079 cleaner petroleum base. Yeah it got I. 1749 01:35:57.079 --> 01:35:58.319 Didn't mean I was about to make a punt. 1750 01:35:58.359 --> 01:36:00.439 It got really slippery there, But yeah, I mean, in 1751 01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:04.079 that same regard it it doesn't make sense as long 1752 01:36:04.119 --> 01:36:06.720 as these people pay the proper extortion fee to get 1753 01:36:06.720 --> 01:36:10.840 the little certification logo on the product totally safe for 1754 01:36:10.920 --> 01:36:17.479 human consumption, except it's not. Yeah, And soy is a 1755 01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:20.359 horrible additive to things. And I know, like for instance, 1756 01:36:20.479 --> 01:36:22.119 Raven Lee, I know she had to take off early 1757 01:36:22.279 --> 01:36:26.600 Love your Raven for people like Raven who they have 1758 01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:29.560 kids with crazy dietary restrictions and stuff, and soy is 1759 01:36:29.680 --> 01:36:32.239 like what they have to use. I get it, right, 1760 01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:34.920 I'm not, and I hope that people didn't take it 1761 01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:36.960 like that. Whenever we made that episode that I am 1762 01:36:37.199 --> 01:36:40.479 or we are judging those who are eating soy based products. 1763 01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:42.720 Most of what you have in your pantry right now 1764 01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:46.079 is soy based, but we did that episode to raise 1765 01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:48.359 awareness of it. People need to be aware of what 1766 01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:51.359 they're putting in their bodies, and if you must ingest soy, 1767 01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:57.159 limit it. The fermented versus unfermented soy based products. Now, 1768 01:36:57.199 --> 01:36:59.399 that was a whole other talking point that I didn't 1769 01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:02.479 know anything about before I started doing research for that episode. 1770 01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:05.920 As a matter of fact, doctor Berg, who was the 1771 01:37:05.920 --> 01:37:07.840 guy that we had quoted, and he played a little 1772 01:37:07.880 --> 01:37:12.720 video by him, Apparently there's some serious controversy around him. 1773 01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:17.079 I didn't know this before we had that clip on 1774 01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:20.600 the show. And this doesn't detract from everything that he 1775 01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:26.800 was saying, but apparently he's like a scientologist esque, like 1776 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:30.800 he's out of his actual mind. And his son has 1777 01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:33.600 actually come forward and tried to like ruin his reputation. 1778 01:37:33.800 --> 01:37:38.560 So apparently there's like levels to this guy of shitbag behavior. 1779 01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:40.560 I don't know that for a fact, but that is 1780 01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:45.920 what at least his son has said. But the research 1781 01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:48.560 that he has done into what soy does to the 1782 01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:51.640 human biome and to our hormones and everything else is 1783 01:37:53.079 --> 01:37:57.119 without compare. But apparently it's like, you know, everybody's got 1784 01:37:57.119 --> 01:37:59.199 a little bit of something in it for themselves. And 1785 01:37:59.239 --> 01:38:04.000 apparently he's borderline charlatan about a couple of things that 1786 01:38:04.079 --> 01:38:07.079 he also mentions about other types of nutrition facts. So 1787 01:38:07.119 --> 01:38:09.880 it's like whenever those things came to light, it made 1788 01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:12.520 people start to question what he had said about soy, 1789 01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:18.119 even though those were confirmed scientifically and nutritionally to be true. Yeah, 1790 01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:20.520 it was. That was actually a kind of crazy episode. 1791 01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:22.439 And I really do hope that people started doing their 1792 01:38:22.439 --> 01:38:24.479 own research off of this and went down their own 1793 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:28.520 rabbit holes to discover more things and find their own 1794 01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:32.239 truths that they can be healthier. But yeah, the soy 1795 01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:34.119 is is rampant. 1796 01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:36.159 And to your point also about the tobacco farming. 1797 01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:40.159 So right around where I used to work is the 1798 01:38:40.199 --> 01:38:42.920 only place on Earth where a specific type of tobacco 1799 01:38:43.039 --> 01:38:47.199 has grown. It's called Perak tobacco. There's at one point 1800 01:38:47.199 --> 01:38:50.159 they had fields and fields of it. Now in today's world, 1801 01:38:50.199 --> 01:38:54.760 there's only fourteen acres of it in existence period. Right now, 1802 01:38:55.399 --> 01:38:58.399 my extended family. And by extended I mean like sixth 1803 01:38:58.600 --> 01:39:02.359 cousins three times removed or whatever the hell they own 1804 01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:05.439 twelve of those fourteen acres. And if anybody anybody out 1805 01:39:05.439 --> 01:39:08.199 there listening to this is a smoker, if you were 1806 01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:11.800 to go and buy American Spirit, the black pack that 1807 01:39:12.039 --> 01:39:15.920 is made with a cut Perique Connecticut or I think 1808 01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:18.439 it might be Virginia tobacco, either Virginia Connecticut. 1809 01:39:18.439 --> 01:39:18.960 I'm not sure the. 1810 01:39:19.399 --> 01:39:23.319 Breed, but it's made with Perik tobacco and it's a 1811 01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:26.560 really strong, bold flavor, very spicy flavor, which is why 1812 01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:28.479 a lot of people don't smoke them. To any of 1813 01:39:28.520 --> 01:39:30.600 the old cats out there that might know about it, 1814 01:39:30.640 --> 01:39:33.279 if you ever heard of a picayune or you gets 1815 01:39:33.279 --> 01:39:37.520 you a pack of Piccayune cigarettes, that's pure Periq, and uh, 1816 01:39:37.720 --> 01:39:40.840 if you ever do try that. Even when I was 1817 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:43.439 a smoker, I couldn't just sit there and burn one 1818 01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:45.199 of those down, dude. It took me like three or 1819 01:39:45.239 --> 01:39:47.840 four smoke breaks to burn one of those Perik cigarettes 1820 01:39:47.880 --> 01:39:50.359 because that thing it hurts, It hits you into chest. 1821 01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:53.880 But to a lot of those Perique fields that used 1822 01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:57.039 to run, they're now soy fields and you go to Virginia, 1823 01:39:57.079 --> 01:39:58.840 you go to Connecticut, you go to the other places 1824 01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:01.640 around America where you to home grow our own tobacco. 1825 01:40:02.319 --> 01:40:04.880 Most of those fields are soy. Now, a few of 1826 01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:06.640 them are corn, and a few of those have some 1827 01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:10.119 other ones, but vast majority of your soy because it's 1828 01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:13.119 more profitable. There are so many different refineries that are 1829 01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:15.319 willing to buy your soy and process it to make 1830 01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:18.479 everything else that Americas they're eating. And you're right, so 1831 01:40:18.520 --> 01:40:21.399 many Americans are no longer smoking tobacco anymore. 1832 01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:22.680 Everybody's going to the vapes. 1833 01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:25.000 I know I'm guilty of that myself, but I do, 1834 01:40:25.079 --> 01:40:27.560 in fact, still enjoy a good cigar from time to time. 1835 01:40:27.560 --> 01:40:29.840 I'm a bit of a nerd with those, but I digress. 1836 01:40:31.119 --> 01:40:33.119 And you're right as far as what that's doing to 1837 01:40:33.239 --> 01:40:38.520 our soil, it's but even still, it's still monocropping. And yeah, 1838 01:40:38.560 --> 01:40:41.760 it does put nitrogen back into the soil, but I 1839 01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:43.680 feel like at a certain point you can only do 1840 01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:45.439 so much and it actually starts to hurt. 1841 01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:51.880 Right, Yeah, yeah, keep going, I'm googling something. 1842 01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:53.520 Oh, I mean that that was all I was gonna say, 1843 01:40:53.640 --> 01:40:56.960 is basically monocropping of any regard, whether it's tobacco or 1844 01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:59.880 squash or corn or I mean name it. If you're 1845 01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:05.159 cropping anything, eventually you're just going to destroy the soil itself. 1846 01:41:05.680 --> 01:41:09.039 And I mean that's not good for anybody. But these 1847 01:41:09.079 --> 01:41:11.319 people are looking at it with the dollar signs rather 1848 01:41:11.359 --> 01:41:14.880 than the long term effects it has on their fields 1849 01:41:14.920 --> 01:41:18.319 and on the earth itself. It's not positive. It is 1850 01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:20.199 really not positive. I remember I was working at a 1851 01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:23.119 place in West Baton Rouge. At one point I was 1852 01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:24.960 up on top of a tower. We had some out 1853 01:41:24.960 --> 01:41:27.840 of state rep come through and around every single one 1854 01:41:27.880 --> 01:41:30.760 of these plants, you'll usually see fields, if not the river, 1855 01:41:31.439 --> 01:41:33.479 and uh, row after row after row, and this guy 1856 01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:34.760 was like, what are they grown over there? 1857 01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:37.760 I'm like, that's soy and he was like, this has 1858 01:41:37.920 --> 01:41:38.439 grown here. 1859 01:41:38.479 --> 01:41:40.640 I'm like, dude, most of what you're driving through in 1860 01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:44.119 Louisiana's either going to be sugarcane soy, and you may 1861 01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:47.760 find a cornfield on occasion, but it's mostly soy and sugarcane. 1862 01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:51.239 And even that sugar cane has gone by the wayside too. 1863 01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:53.920 A lot of it in Louisiana. It's like these old 1864 01:41:53.960 --> 01:41:57.560 families that have had this land since pre Civil War, 1865 01:41:58.079 --> 01:42:00.399 and they've been growing sugar cane there for you know, 1866 01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:04.319 umpteen generations, but a lot of them have also gone 1867 01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:07.680 by the wayside, and now they're growing soy monocropoly because 1868 01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:11.439 it's more profitable. Sugar is high fructose corn syrup is 1869 01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:14.840 more readily available than pure sugar these days. And to 1870 01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:18.039 what Royce had said earlier, you have to find cokes 1871 01:42:18.119 --> 01:42:21.239 made with sugar as opposed to high fructose corn syrup. 1872 01:42:21.680 --> 01:42:25.039 But yeah, yeah, what are you googling, Tony? 1873 01:42:26.079 --> 01:42:29.199 I was doogling what happens to all the fixed nitrogen 1874 01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:33.439 that soybeans make in the soil, and it looks like 1875 01:42:34.359 --> 01:42:39.359 we don't really need soybeans for making fixed nitrogen anymore. 1876 01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:43.079 There was a guy named Fritz Haber just before during 1877 01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:46.279 World War One, a Jewish German chemist who came up 1878 01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:49.359 with another way to make fixed nitrogen out of hydrogen 1879 01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:54.199 gas nitrogen under high pressure and temperature, and that was 1880 01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:56.640 used also to make a lot of munitions at the time. 1881 01:42:57.520 --> 01:43:02.359 It is well way a group in Arkansas is trying 1882 01:43:02.359 --> 01:43:07.000 to develop versions of the soybean that actually make less 1883 01:43:07.039 --> 01:43:11.880 fixed nitrogen, because I guess there's the soybean fields monocropping. 1884 01:43:11.920 --> 01:43:16.000 It's putting too much nitrogen into the soil, and they're 1885 01:43:16.039 --> 01:43:19.920 trying to find a way to make it stop. So yeah, 1886 01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:24.239 I just thought i'd look into that popper. I mean, 1887 01:43:24.680 --> 01:43:27.600 have to fix nitrogen in the world today comes from 1888 01:43:27.800 --> 01:43:32.039 his process. And he was a German Jewish chemist. And 1889 01:43:32.720 --> 01:43:35.399 he also tried to find a way to extract gold 1890 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:39.079 from the ocean to pay Germany's war debt after World 1891 01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:42.840 War One. And I think unfortunately he lived long enough 1892 01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:46.520 that when the Nazis took over, I think he had 1893 01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:49.399 to flee Germany because he was Jewish, but he was 1894 01:43:49.399 --> 01:43:50.920 a very patriotic German. 1895 01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:52.079 Wow. 1896 01:43:52.479 --> 01:43:55.319 In the World War One period, he had a phrase 1897 01:43:56.239 --> 01:44:01.119 I'm gonna try to say accurately. He said, de viston 1898 01:44:01.199 --> 01:44:05.560 schaftler deep in freedom, demensh height intre dim flash land. 1899 01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:09.479 And you who probably figure out what that means with there's. 1900 01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:11.039 A portion of that. I picked up a couple of 1901 01:44:11.039 --> 01:44:12.279 those words that got lost on. 1902 01:44:12.920 --> 01:44:16.239 He does in peacetime the scientist serves humanity, but in 1903 01:44:16.319 --> 01:44:18.279 wartime he serves his fatherland. 1904 01:44:19.520 --> 01:44:23.640 Yeah, yeah, I could see that the German Jewish scientists 1905 01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:24.760 were cutting edge. 1906 01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:27.199 I mean, hell Albert Einstein was one of them. 1907 01:44:27.880 --> 01:44:30.199 And Uh, the method that your boy was talking about 1908 01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:33.359 to extract gold from the ocean, I remember looking. 1909 01:44:33.079 --> 01:44:34.119 At this a while back. 1910 01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:37.960 Apparently it's like ninety three percent, give or take, of 1911 01:44:38.039 --> 01:44:40.520 all the gold extracted from the Earth we can account 1912 01:44:40.600 --> 01:44:42.800 for right now. The same can't be said for silver 1913 01:44:42.840 --> 01:44:46.840 because it gets used and processed and whatever. But that 1914 01:44:46.920 --> 01:44:50.720 being said, the ocean holds more gold than anything else 1915 01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:52.920 on Earth. I forget what study it was, but they 1916 01:44:52.920 --> 01:44:54.880 said if they were to extract all of the gold 1917 01:44:54.880 --> 01:44:57.439 from the ocean, it would be enough to cover the 1918 01:44:57.600 --> 01:45:01.039 entire land mass of all continents on Earth knee deep 1919 01:45:01.159 --> 01:45:05.239 in gold. But it's an expensive process and they haven't 1920 01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:07.840 found a way to make it efficient enough to justify 1921 01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:13.560 doing this thing. But Fritz was the guy who pioneered 1922 01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:16.800 that technology, which is I mean, personally, I find the 1923 01:45:16.840 --> 01:45:18.039 thing to be mind blowing. 1924 01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:21.600 Yeah, he made a serious attempt at it, but he 1925 01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:25.359 wasn't able to because it's only like a few parts 1926 01:45:25.399 --> 01:45:29.279 per trillion or something. Yeah, and he also greatly overestimated 1927 01:45:29.319 --> 01:45:30.960 the amount of gold that there would be in the 1928 01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:36.520 ocean based on some measurements he did with samples that 1929 01:45:36.520 --> 01:45:39.279 were already contaminated with too much gold, So yeah, it 1930 01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:43.520 was a mistake. But yeah, his name was Fritz Hobber. 1931 01:45:44.319 --> 01:45:44.640 Wow. 1932 01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:50.199 I mean, if you believe certain lines of thinking, that's 1933 01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:52.520 the reason why the Nanaki came down was to get 1934 01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:54.880 all the gold from our oceans because it's full of 1935 01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:58.479 it and all this and yeah, yeah, all that, all 1936 01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:04.039 that fun rhetoric, but yeah, that is pretty incredible. 1937 01:46:06.479 --> 01:46:12.920 Yeah. Anyway, my overall impression of political alignment at the 1938 01:46:12.960 --> 01:46:16.520 time was you might have heard of this case Shank 1939 01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:23.039 versus the United States. I know it sucks to bring up, 1940 01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:28.439 you know, Israel and stuff like that, but I get 1941 01:46:28.439 --> 01:46:30.479 the impression that a lot of Jews were on Germany 1942 01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:33.840 side during World War One, in particular because I think 1943 01:46:33.880 --> 01:46:39.640 they regarded the Tsarist Russia as their main geopolitical enemy 1944 01:46:39.680 --> 01:46:43.079 at the time, and then when it collapsed in nineteen 1945 01:46:43.159 --> 01:46:48.680 seventeen to eighteen, I don't know, there was another realignment 1946 01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:51.199 after that, and Hitler was definitely not a monarchist. 1947 01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:55.680 So now the Jews, if I'm not mistaken, and we 1948 01:46:55.840 --> 01:46:58.039 just learned about this on the Live last night, they 1949 01:46:58.039 --> 01:47:02.880 were trying to create a homeland in Germany because the 1950 01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:05.760 population of German Jews was so high, and they were 1951 01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:11.159 so they were very well received by a lot of 1952 01:47:11.199 --> 01:47:14.560 the German people during World War One, and they were 1953 01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:18.000 very patriotic German people as well. It's only when the 1954 01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:21.760 Socialists took over that they started to fear for their 1955 01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:23.840 lives because they had to make a bad guy. And 1956 01:47:24.239 --> 01:47:25.600 clearly these are the bad guys. 1957 01:47:25.600 --> 01:47:27.279 But and yeah, that's another thing. 1958 01:47:27.319 --> 01:47:29.840 People like to throw out the baby with the bath 1959 01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:34.439 water and all these things. Nazis were socialists, which means 1960 01:47:34.479 --> 01:47:40.560 they were Marxists, that they were. You know, people like 1961 01:47:40.680 --> 01:47:43.359 to think that, yes, I understand the Nazis did not 1962 01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:46.560 like the Kamis, even though they were based out of 1963 01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:49.319 the same book. If you really want to go up 1964 01:47:49.640 --> 01:47:51.800 down the rabbit hole deep enough, yes, they took on 1965 01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:59.239 fascist ideologies from Italy, but the fascist regime of all 1966 01:47:59.359 --> 01:48:02.920 that was more less just undying loyalty to the late 1967 01:48:03.079 --> 01:48:07.000 lead guy or in Germany's case, the furor. But if 1968 01:48:07.039 --> 01:48:10.520 you look at the social programs that Germany put in 1969 01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:15.720 place under the Third Reich, it was extremely socialist in nature. 1970 01:48:15.960 --> 01:48:19.960 It was very what we might call liberal in nature, 1971 01:48:20.119 --> 01:48:23.520 although it may have been quote unquote ultra conservative and 1972 01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:26.920 alt right and far right and all these things. Their 1973 01:48:27.039 --> 01:48:30.760 social welfare system was absolutely not what we would consider 1974 01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:34.920 conservative leaning these days. It was a very weird breed 1975 01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:37.079 of I like this from these people. I like this 1976 01:48:37.119 --> 01:48:38.920 from these people. I'm gonna make it my own thing. 1977 01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:42.920 And people really like to separate the two when in reality, 1978 01:48:43.640 --> 01:48:46.399 and I know that you're very pro Russia, Tony, I 1979 01:48:46.399 --> 01:48:49.399 don't mean to start shit on this one, but people 1980 01:48:49.439 --> 01:48:52.239 also don't like to acknowledge the fact that the Nazis 1981 01:48:52.279 --> 01:48:56.079 and the Commies worked together to invade Poland. The Nazis 1982 01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:59.079 and the Comedies were cool with each other until they weren't. 1983 01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:01.960 We kind of saw each other as like second cousins, 1984 01:49:02.600 --> 01:49:05.720 until you know, it was time to start up firing 1985 01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:09.239 up the gas chambers and start killing Commis in these 1986 01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:12.000 concentration camps. But you know, all the things. 1987 01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:14.720 Yeah, I find it hard to make sense of the 1988 01:49:14.720 --> 01:49:18.399 whole time period myself. I think the Nazis would describe 1989 01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:24.359 themselves as socialists, but definitely not Communists or Marxists. But 1990 01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:27.399 they believed in state direction of the economy. That was 1991 01:49:27.640 --> 01:49:30.560 the one area, the one big area of overlap. But 1992 01:49:30.640 --> 01:49:35.640 they also were not quite as I think the Communists were. 1993 01:49:35.640 --> 01:49:39.239 Definitely much more anti clerical and much more anti religious, 1994 01:49:39.600 --> 01:49:44.960 and the Nazis were somewhat anti Christian and anti religious 1995 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:49.359 at the extremes, people like Himmler, for example, being into 1996 01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:53.920 the occult. However, in terms of practical public policy, they 1997 01:49:53.920 --> 01:50:01.199 were way more favorable to Christian churches than the communist 1998 01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:05.720 regimes were. And there was yeah, there was enough overlap 1999 01:50:05.840 --> 01:50:09.119 though that there was a pretty powerful Communist party in 2000 01:50:09.159 --> 01:50:13.920 Germany in the nineteen twenties, but then after nineteen thirty three, 2001 01:50:14.159 --> 01:50:17.640 something like eighty percent of them just joined the Nazi Party. 2002 01:50:18.199 --> 01:50:21.119 So it was clearly they were just people attracted the power, 2003 01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:22.600 and they'll go wherever the power is. 2004 01:50:23.680 --> 01:50:23.800 Now. 2005 01:50:23.800 --> 01:50:27.319 Another thing, quick thing is that the Nazi Party got 2006 01:50:27.319 --> 01:50:34.520 a lot of its start from Russian exiles from the 2007 01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:36.760 Soviet Union right at the end of World War One. 2008 01:50:36.840 --> 01:50:41.159 These were the whites from Russia. These were the people 2009 01:50:41.199 --> 01:50:44.960 fighting the Reds, and they when they fled to Germany 2010 01:50:45.199 --> 01:50:49.239 and other places outside of the Soviet Union, they mainly 2011 01:50:49.279 --> 01:50:53.399 became fascists. They because they were very anti communists, but 2012 01:50:53.439 --> 01:50:58.560 they were not necessarily monarchists either, or they didn't hold 2013 01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:01.479 out hope that that s our government would come back. 2014 01:51:02.600 --> 01:51:06.800 Yeah, yeah, I could have made that point better myself, honestly. 2015 01:51:07.199 --> 01:51:10.199 There's a book called The Russian Roots of National Socialism 2016 01:51:10.239 --> 01:51:13.039 which I've been meaning to procure and read and have 2017 01:51:13.119 --> 01:51:14.079 not gotten around too. 2018 01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:22.399 Absolutely, and it's crazy because the fascist movement started making 2019 01:51:22.439 --> 01:51:26.479 its way to Western countries. What it was named Oswald 2020 01:51:26.520 --> 01:51:31.359 Moseby I think was the British fascists that tried starting 2021 01:51:31.680 --> 01:51:33.319 He was homies with Hitler. I think he was at 2022 01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:35.680 his wedding as a matter of fact. He was trying 2023 01:51:35.680 --> 01:51:39.479 to start a fascist basically a Nazi party in England. 2024 01:51:39.880 --> 01:51:42.640 We had other guys in America trying to start their 2025 01:51:42.640 --> 01:51:46.640 own version of a Nazi party here, and they actually had, 2026 01:51:46.920 --> 01:51:49.800 whether people want to really acknowledge it or not, they 2027 01:51:49.840 --> 01:51:53.720 had a pretty decent foothold in DC until they didn't 2028 01:51:54.079 --> 01:51:57.039 until World War Two and Hitler and all these things, 2029 01:51:57.079 --> 01:51:58.800 and all of a sudden they just went by the wayside, 2030 01:51:59.439 --> 01:52:01.319 and they just kind of threw on a whole different 2031 01:52:01.399 --> 01:52:03.119 vibe to it. But a lot of their rhetoric and 2032 01:52:03.159 --> 01:52:07.520 a lot of their hatred for certain people identifiably the 2033 01:52:07.600 --> 01:52:11.199 Jews made its way into Western countries and that undertone 2034 01:52:11.319 --> 01:52:14.960 somehow still resides today. And this is I think why 2035 01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.680 a lot of these people, especially in the conspiracy community, 2036 01:52:18.199 --> 01:52:22.000 have such a stigma against the Jews. It's like, all right, 2037 01:52:22.119 --> 01:52:23.720 if you listen to these people, well, you know, they 2038 01:52:23.840 --> 01:52:26.119 control the banks, they control the whether, they control Hollywood, 2039 01:52:26.920 --> 01:52:28.960 and if you all right, fine, cool, where are you 2040 01:52:29.039 --> 01:52:31.880 getting that from? And if you follow their trail of breadcrumbs, 2041 01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:35.800 it nine times out of ten leads back to actual 2042 01:52:35.880 --> 01:52:41.720 Nazi ideologies, and it's it's mind blowing, especially with Hitler 2043 01:52:41.720 --> 01:52:48.119 beating Jewish. I mean, I've heard that before his grandmother 2044 01:52:48.239 --> 01:52:50.560 was Jewish. He wasn't like, he wasn't raised, he wasn't 2045 01:52:50.600 --> 01:52:52.359 doing Hanukkah as a kid, you know what I mean. 2046 01:52:52.359 --> 01:52:57.399 But like he was absolutely of Ashkenazi descent his grandmother. 2047 01:52:57.920 --> 01:53:01.119 Okay, I guess I'll look that up. Is it's just 2048 01:53:01.199 --> 01:53:03.960 that I'm pretty sure that the Jewish population in Germany 2049 01:53:04.119 --> 01:53:08.159 was less than two percent, so I guess it's possible, 2050 01:53:08.319 --> 01:53:11.359 and I think they were mostly grouped in the northeast, right, 2051 01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:14.239 But yeah, I haven't looked into it, But yeah, I don't. 2052 01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:15.680 I'm not sure I believe that. 2053 01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:20.359 Well, from what I have researched. That's exactly why when 2054 01:53:20.359 --> 01:53:22.960 the time came and he took over. First order of business, 2055 01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:25.159 he made a bee line to his hometown and leveled 2056 01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:28.279 it to the ground because they didn't want any record 2057 01:53:28.319 --> 01:53:31.359 of his lineage, of that portion of his lineage being 2058 01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:34.760 brought to light. Even though his family doctor growing up 2059 01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:38.159 was a Jewish doctor that he gave the title of 2060 01:53:39.319 --> 01:53:43.079 Oh shit, I can't pronounce it in German, but basically 2061 01:53:43.600 --> 01:53:46.239 he gave him a pass and said that he was 2062 01:53:46.279 --> 01:53:49.760 a quote unquote noble jew and that there were some 2063 01:53:49.960 --> 01:53:52.760 of them that were not these types and they could 2064 01:53:52.760 --> 01:53:54.960 be saved and they could blah blah blah. It was 2065 01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:58.119 the family doctor because he grew up relatively not well 2066 01:53:58.159 --> 01:54:00.119 to do but not poor either're kind of you know, 2067 01:54:00.199 --> 01:54:03.920 middle class. But this Jewish doctor, uh worked on him 2068 01:54:03.920 --> 01:54:06.000 and his family for like cut rate prices, and he 2069 01:54:06.159 --> 01:54:08.800 was a genuine good dude. He was a real minch 2070 01:54:09.039 --> 01:54:12.399 as some would say. And uh, yeah, he spared him, 2071 01:54:12.600 --> 01:54:15.279 but leveled everything else in his hometown to kind of 2072 01:54:15.279 --> 01:54:19.119 protect that little portion of it. It's it's yeah, but 2073 01:54:19.159 --> 01:54:20.920 that also kind of gets listed in with the whole 2074 01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:25.199 Like he hated homosexuals but surrounded himself with homosexuals, and 2075 01:54:25.239 --> 01:54:28.840 he he hated the deformed, but apparently he had three testicles, 2076 01:54:28.840 --> 01:54:31.079 and like it gets wrapped up into the realm of like, 2077 01:54:31.399 --> 01:54:33.560 well you know that I heard this once upon a time, 2078 01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:36.760 but if you actually follow the bloodline, yeah, your boy, 2079 01:54:37.119 --> 01:54:39.399 your boy was at least a portion of part of 2080 01:54:39.399 --> 01:54:43.479 the tribe. And it's uh yeah, yeah, a lot of 2081 01:54:43.479 --> 01:54:46.119 these people do. They they just don't know, and they 2082 01:54:46.159 --> 01:54:48.359 either don't want to find out the truth or they 2083 01:54:48.399 --> 01:54:50.800 just want to hear their version of the truth, which 2084 01:54:50.840 --> 01:54:52.960 is I think equally damaging. 2085 01:54:54.359 --> 01:54:57.520 Uh huh, but I know I piss off a lot 2086 01:54:57.560 --> 01:54:58.359 of people with that one. 2087 01:54:59.199 --> 01:55:04.479 Yeah. 2088 01:55:04.520 --> 01:55:08.319 Well, first one to start with something easy. So Ashkenazi 2089 01:55:08.600 --> 01:55:14.720 or ashgans literally just being the German. Oh shit, So 2090 01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:18.560 just FYI say the Ashcanazi like they come for all 2091 01:55:18.720 --> 01:55:23.399 European like I think the modern Israeli the modern Hebrew 2092 01:55:23.520 --> 01:55:27.359 word for for German Germany or is Afganas. 2093 01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:32.399 So just wow, I didn't know that at all, but 2094 01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:34.399 I know that there were tons of them in the 2095 01:55:34.399 --> 01:55:36.800 Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth and. 2096 01:55:38.319 --> 01:55:39.520 Huge community. 2097 01:55:40.159 --> 01:55:43.079 Yeah. I think they tended to have German names too 2098 01:55:43.479 --> 01:55:45.800 at that time, and they spoke Yiddish instead of Polish 2099 01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:46.439 or Russian. 2100 01:55:47.359 --> 01:55:50.119 So so you you would know this better than I would. 2101 01:55:50.159 --> 01:55:53.399 But I was told that Yiddish is just another dialect 2102 01:55:53.880 --> 01:55:58.119 of German. I would agree it is another dialect because, 2103 01:55:58.119 --> 01:56:00.960 like I've I have friends that can speak it, and 2104 01:56:01.319 --> 01:56:06.239 you know, it sounds very, very similar to to Germany. 2105 01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:10.000 It's by the way, written and out in Hebrew letters. 2106 01:56:10.039 --> 01:56:16.399 Crazy like just it's it's wow, it's a it's a cluster, 2107 01:56:16.479 --> 01:56:19.880 to say the least. When it comes to that. As 2108 01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:24.960 far as the conspiracy theory or conspiracy community that hates 2109 01:56:25.039 --> 01:56:31.039 views or for whatever reason, like it's the problem is, 2110 01:56:31.119 --> 01:56:33.279 there seems to be enough of a you know, I 2111 01:56:33.800 --> 01:56:36.920 like there are people that have been on the Colic 2112 01:56:36.960 --> 01:56:40.359 conspiracy that they say, oh, well they have this and 2113 01:56:40.439 --> 01:56:44.159 they say this, and like the bread trails that they're following, 2114 01:56:44.800 --> 01:56:50.239 like you you can follow it, right, But just because 2115 01:56:51.159 --> 01:56:54.319 you can follow the bread trail doesn't necessarily mean it's accurate. 2116 01:56:55.840 --> 01:57:00.840 I forget the gentleman that calls views you's right, uh. 2117 01:57:02.479 --> 01:57:05.520 Yeah, so he says that God divorced the Jewish people 2118 01:57:06.159 --> 01:57:08.800 and at some point, like I do agree that, and 2119 01:57:09.840 --> 01:57:12.640 the ariety or the prophet that definitely says like that. 2120 01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:18.399 However, there's also another portion that we read that we 2121 01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:22.920 read at a certain point in time, where the first 2122 01:57:23.279 --> 01:57:28.680 three words are which essentially means comfort, comfort my people, 2123 01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:32.000 meaning that God does not abandoned in the Jewish people. 2124 01:57:33.199 --> 01:57:37.399 So like, on one hand, I can understand why somebody 2125 01:57:37.399 --> 01:57:42.720 can say, all right, well the breadcrumbs that are saying this, this, this, 2126 01:57:43.720 --> 01:57:48.880 However they're ignoring other pieces of the information that so 2127 01:57:50.680 --> 01:57:53.640 and also as some jacobs as something that you said before. 2128 01:57:53.720 --> 01:57:57.239 There's also difference between somebody who is coming from things 2129 01:57:57.279 --> 01:58:00.920 on a religious aspect and coming from it on an 2130 01:58:00.960 --> 01:58:05.920 irreligious aspect. So you have you have people who are 2131 01:58:06.119 --> 01:58:11.159 Jewish by birth, doesn't mean they are following the tenets 2132 01:58:11.159 --> 01:58:14.359 of it. Soros is Jewish. I don't think he's you know, 2133 01:58:14.359 --> 01:58:17.880 from what I've been told, he's not exactly a very 2134 01:58:17.920 --> 01:58:18.640 good Jew. 2135 01:58:19.319 --> 01:58:20.000 Right So. 2136 01:58:22.239 --> 01:58:23.920 I agree with that you. 2137 01:58:23.880 --> 01:58:26.560 Can't cluster everybody in they're like and when it comes 2138 01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:29.560 to everything that are a lot of things that I 2139 01:58:29.680 --> 01:58:33.880 my point of view comes from the more religious aspect 2140 01:58:33.960 --> 01:58:38.239 of right now my perfect absolutely fucking not. But like so, 2141 01:58:38.439 --> 01:58:41.479 but when I try to conceptualize, well can the Jewish 2142 01:58:41.520 --> 01:58:45.319 people do that? I try my mind goes to would 2143 01:58:45.319 --> 01:58:49.600 the orthodox Jews do that. Not necessarily would the irreligious 2144 01:58:49.680 --> 01:58:52.640 Jews do that. So, you know, it's a work in 2145 01:58:52.680 --> 01:58:55.000 progress and something that I'm trying to learn how to 2146 01:58:55.600 --> 01:58:59.239 open up my third eye and to see people who 2147 01:59:00.199 --> 01:59:05.439 being people, not necessarily their background, no doubt. Uh. 2148 01:59:05.840 --> 01:59:07.840 Speaking of Germany as a matter of fact, and how 2149 01:59:08.520 --> 01:59:14.319 uh you know Martin Luther led a peasant revolt or 2150 01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:19.279 a war against the peasants where Christians slaughtered three hundred 2151 01:59:19.359 --> 01:59:24.920 thousand poor people in Germany. Now I was called something 2152 01:59:24.960 --> 01:59:26.560 else at that time, and I get that, but like 2153 01:59:27.399 --> 01:59:29.920 as far as like, well, you know, they've they've been 2154 01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:31.119 kicked out of all these countries. 2155 01:59:31.119 --> 01:59:32.479 There's a reason why, blah blah blah. 2156 01:59:32.479 --> 01:59:36.720 It's like, you know, Christianity doesn't I get on this 2157 01:59:36.760 --> 01:59:40.760 talk with people too. It's like, you know, not just Christianity, 2158 01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:43.720 not just Islam, not just Jews, not just Buddhists. They're 2159 01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:47.199 slaughtering Wiger Muslims in China right now. Not just name it, 2160 01:59:47.319 --> 01:59:50.159 name the group, it doesn't matter. You're going to find 2161 01:59:50.479 --> 01:59:53.600 groups of shitheads that have done stuff in the name 2162 01:59:53.680 --> 01:59:56.880 of their religious figures and with their religious book in 2163 01:59:56.920 --> 02:00:00.560 their hand. Quoting cherry picked information to justify whatever the 2164 02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:03.239 fuck they're about to do next. That doesn't mean that 2165 02:00:03.239 --> 02:00:07.800 that's accurate. That could be misquoting, it could be misinterpretation. 2166 02:00:08.479 --> 02:00:11.359 It could be probably a cult leader trying to do 2167 02:00:11.439 --> 02:00:14.239 some shit to justify, you know, the end, justify the means. 2168 02:00:14.239 --> 02:00:16.079 And here's the quote from the book that justified the 2169 02:00:16.319 --> 02:00:20.479 slave trade. Leopold I was one hundred percent a Christian. 2170 02:00:21.199 --> 02:00:24.600 Doesn't mean that African slave trade was blessed by God, 2171 02:00:25.439 --> 02:00:26.760 you know, it's. 2172 02:00:28.520 --> 02:00:32.000 Yeah, yeah, Well, here's another We tend to think of 2173 02:00:32.039 --> 02:00:35.840 anti semitism mainly because of the Nazi regime, which is 2174 02:00:36.119 --> 02:00:40.119 the main the biggest example of it. I would totally 2175 02:00:40.159 --> 02:00:42.279 agree with it, and that's all wrong, but that is 2176 02:00:42.359 --> 02:00:47.399 not really that representative, in my opinion, of most of 2177 02:00:47.800 --> 02:00:50.800 anti semitism throughout history. When people talk about the one 2178 02:00:50.880 --> 02:00:58.000 hundred and nine expulsions, most of the time, you know, 2179 02:00:58.039 --> 02:01:01.199 we're talking about Martin Luther leading a revolt or a revolution. 2180 02:01:01.880 --> 02:01:06.359 When revolutions or peasant revolts occur throughout the world, it's 2181 02:01:06.399 --> 02:01:10.399 normally the lower classes fighting against the upper classes, and 2182 02:01:10.439 --> 02:01:12.920 the lower classes are the majority and the upper classes 2183 02:01:12.960 --> 02:01:17.600 are the minority. And the way Europe was governed for 2184 02:01:18.479 --> 02:01:21.680 you know, much of the past millennium up until maybe 2185 02:01:21.720 --> 02:01:29.039 a couple hundred years ago, was through you know, small kingdoms, duchies, 2186 02:01:29.159 --> 02:01:33.000 what have you. Margraves and Jewish people tended to be 2187 02:01:33.520 --> 02:01:36.640 part of the elite class wherever they went, they tended 2188 02:01:36.640 --> 02:01:39.760 to have the most money, and they were well insinuated 2189 02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:45.239 into the aristocracy, and the governments of these regions would 2190 02:01:45.279 --> 02:01:47.479 normally try to protect them. But if there was a 2191 02:01:47.479 --> 02:01:51.520 peasant revolt, it wasn't necessarily because the peasants hated the Jews. 2192 02:01:51.520 --> 02:01:54.640 They just hated all rich people around them. 2193 02:01:55.159 --> 02:01:59.960 Getting rid of the bourgeois z yeah people that, yeah. 2194 02:01:59.399 --> 02:02:02.000 Yeah, they they were revolting against all that. It wasn't 2195 02:02:02.039 --> 02:02:05.199 necessarily just the Jews, but the Jews were part of 2196 02:02:05.239 --> 02:02:08.800 the group that they were revolting against. So now, yeah, 2197 02:02:09.199 --> 02:02:11.680 I don't think that. You know, people look at what 2198 02:02:11.800 --> 02:02:14.239 Hitler was up to, and that's not what it was 2199 02:02:14.319 --> 02:02:16.159 like for most of the history. Now, I think the 2200 02:02:16.239 --> 02:02:19.399 King of England did actually expel the Jews in twelve ninety, 2201 02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:22.520 so there's some of that going on, but most of 2202 02:02:22.520 --> 02:02:27.399 these are just peasant revolts against the people governing them, 2203 02:02:27.720 --> 02:02:31.000 and sometimes and Jews didn't tend to govern, but they 2204 02:02:31.000 --> 02:02:33.680 were insinuated into that class at the time, so they 2205 02:02:33.680 --> 02:02:34.279 got cut up. 2206 02:02:35.199 --> 02:02:38.039 I will say this though, the peasant revolt that Martin 2207 02:02:38.119 --> 02:02:43.600 Luther led, it was the military and the church led 2208 02:02:43.640 --> 02:02:45.119 the slaughter of the poor. 2209 02:02:45.399 --> 02:02:45.960 On that one. 2210 02:02:46.239 --> 02:02:49.399 They it's called the peasant revolt and all that, but 2211 02:02:49.479 --> 02:02:51.640 it's actually the flip opposite. On that one. Martin Luther 2212 02:02:51.720 --> 02:02:54.520 did some wild shit. He also wrote a book, I 2213 02:02:54.560 --> 02:02:57.319 think it's called On the Truth on the Jews, and 2214 02:02:57.359 --> 02:02:59.319 that was another thing he did after he nailed his 2215 02:02:59.399 --> 02:03:01.640 ninety ninety to the doors, he wrote this book where 2216 02:03:01.680 --> 02:03:04.960 he he hated the Jews personally, and then after that 2217 02:03:05.039 --> 02:03:08.439 book was published, he got enough people pissed off at 2218 02:03:08.479 --> 02:03:11.439 the what we would now call like the homeless or 2219 02:03:11.520 --> 02:03:15.920 the vagrants, and they just slaughtered their lower class because 2220 02:03:15.920 --> 02:03:18.319 they just saw them as a drain on society. And 2221 02:03:18.399 --> 02:03:20.600 it was yeah, it was. It was bad. It was 2222 02:03:20.680 --> 02:03:23.159 really bad. Martin Luther was kind of a it was 2223 02:03:23.199 --> 02:03:25.079 kind of a piece of shit in some regards. I 2224 02:03:25.119 --> 02:03:27.079 do like that he called out the Catholic Church for 2225 02:03:27.239 --> 02:03:30.279 selling the not pardons what's it called. 2226 02:03:30.319 --> 02:03:34.359 The indulgences and indulgences in seventeen. But when was this 2227 02:03:34.560 --> 02:03:37.520 revolt because I'm actually googling it right now. I want 2228 02:03:37.520 --> 02:03:40.239 to find it, Like, what year was that roughly after 2229 02:03:40.279 --> 02:03:41.279 fifteen seventeen. 2230 02:03:41.880 --> 02:03:44.479 I can let me sell Martin. 2231 02:03:44.279 --> 02:03:48.199 Luther revolt, but oh, peasants revolt, Okay, that'll probably work. 2232 02:03:48.479 --> 02:03:49.000 That's the one. 2233 02:03:49.079 --> 02:03:51.079 I don't know the year, but it was the quote 2234 02:03:51.119 --> 02:03:56.079 unquote peasant revolt where it sounds like the peasants rose 2235 02:03:56.159 --> 02:03:58.479 up against the upper class and it's like, yeah, that 2236 02:03:58.680 --> 02:04:01.399 was just bad. Terminologe used on this one that the 2237 02:04:01.479 --> 02:04:04.760 upper class led the charge and paid off mercenaries to 2238 02:04:05.479 --> 02:04:09.520 slaughter the peasant class, and it was it was not pretty. 2239 02:04:10.720 --> 02:04:14.760 And I don't believe that that was a anti Jewish 2240 02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:17.520 thing that happened. I don't believe that the Jews are 2241 02:04:17.520 --> 02:04:19.760 a part of the peasant class at that time, although 2242 02:04:19.760 --> 02:04:22.960 maybe they were. Maybe they were. But my point is 2243 02:04:22.960 --> 02:04:25.079 that that was a slaughter that was led by a 2244 02:04:25.279 --> 02:04:29.520 Christian using the Bible, which talks about taking care of 2245 02:04:29.560 --> 02:04:32.720 the downtrodden and taking care of those that are that 2246 02:04:32.760 --> 02:04:35.680 are meek and need help, right, helping your brother and 2247 02:04:35.720 --> 02:04:38.119 all these things, being your brother's keeper. But he was 2248 02:04:38.199 --> 02:04:41.439 using that same book to justify slaughtering, you know, poor people. 2249 02:04:41.960 --> 02:04:44.760 So okay, I found it. The German peasants were occurred 2250 02:04:44.760 --> 02:04:48.399 from fifteen twenty four to fifteen twenty five, just less 2251 02:04:48.399 --> 02:04:51.279 than ten years after the Reformation started, and it was 2252 02:04:51.399 --> 02:04:55.720 all over many parts of Germany. Yeah, okay, I can't 2253 02:04:55.760 --> 02:04:57.880 do it justice right now. I just learned about this. 2254 02:04:58.279 --> 02:05:00.279 It's worth a deep dive, brother, I'm telling you. I 2255 02:05:00.439 --> 02:05:03.359 just learned about this couple of days ago. I was 2256 02:05:03.560 --> 02:05:07.920 I was bullshitting with somebody who was They tried trolling, 2257 02:05:08.520 --> 02:05:11.000 and I know how to troll harder than most of 2258 02:05:11.039 --> 02:05:11.479 the people. 2259 02:05:11.680 --> 02:05:14.319 So I just kind of quoted a few little things like. 2260 02:05:14.680 --> 02:05:19.800 The Rwanda genocide for instance, that was led by Christians. 2261 02:05:20.359 --> 02:05:23.319 Oh yeah, yeah, people don't want to look at that either. Yes, 2262 02:05:23.359 --> 02:05:25.600 it was tribal versus tribal and there was a lot 2263 02:05:25.600 --> 02:05:29.199 of internal racism that was involved there. But whether people 2264 02:05:29.199 --> 02:05:31.000 want to acknowledge it or not, the people with the 2265 02:05:31.000 --> 02:05:34.039 machetes were using the Bible to justify what they were doing. 2266 02:05:35.119 --> 02:05:38.199 And yeah, yeah, as a Christian, I can't abide by 2267 02:05:38.239 --> 02:05:38.600 that shit. 2268 02:05:39.199 --> 02:05:41.199 But yeah, right, totally. 2269 02:05:41.239 --> 02:05:43.199 It's it's all the Jews. 2270 02:05:43.439 --> 02:05:48.520 Yeah, anyway, even if Jews didn't exist, all the rest 2271 02:05:48.560 --> 02:05:50.760 of the world would have equally as much problems in 2272 02:05:50.800 --> 02:05:51.359 my opinion. 2273 02:05:51.520 --> 02:05:53.840 Oh my god, there was. I know we quote Rick 2274 02:05:53.880 --> 02:05:56.079 and Morty a good bit on the cult of conspiracy, 2275 02:05:56.119 --> 02:05:57.720 but they do a good job of pointing out the 2276 02:05:57.800 --> 02:06:01.079 dumb shit. There was one episode where they were on 2277 02:06:01.119 --> 02:06:04.840 a planet, these types of aliens whatever, and everybody was 2278 02:06:04.840 --> 02:06:06.800 living in harmony. It was cool, but that's because they 2279 02:06:06.800 --> 02:06:08.800 all were under a certain kind of mind control thing. 2280 02:06:09.159 --> 02:06:12.039 They snapped out of it and there was the flat 2281 02:06:12.119 --> 02:06:15.319 nipple crew and the pointing nipple crew and they immediately 2282 02:06:15.359 --> 02:06:18.760 started killing each other over which nipples were better, and 2283 02:06:18.840 --> 02:06:22.359 like that was done for humorous reasons, but like that's 2284 02:06:22.439 --> 02:06:26.159 not that crazy. Like that's a microcosm of why people 2285 02:06:26.239 --> 02:06:29.399 kill each other on mass throughout human history. They're a 2286 02:06:29.439 --> 02:06:31.399 little bit different than us. Huh, we need to end 2287 02:06:31.439 --> 02:06:31.680 it all. 2288 02:06:31.680 --> 02:06:34.479 It's like no, no, did stop stop that's not that's not. 2289 02:06:34.439 --> 02:06:42.920 The way, but humans be human and anyway, all right, y'all, Well, 2290 02:06:42.960 --> 02:06:44.960 I do want to thank y'all for joining. We kind 2291 02:06:44.960 --> 02:06:47.000 of went on some wild topics on this one atomic 2292 02:06:47.079 --> 02:06:52.600 theory digestion and then religious tumultualism. That's not a word, 2293 02:06:52.600 --> 02:06:54.720 but I made it up. We'll roll with it. I 2294 02:06:54.720 --> 02:06:57.000 want to thank y'all, all of y'all. Raven had to 2295 02:06:57.079 --> 02:06:59.920 leave early, but Tony Royce, thank y'all for joining in 2296 02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:02.239 on this one as well. And uh I hope to 2297 02:07:02.279 --> 02:07:04.800 see ya next week for another edition of The Cajun 2298 02:07:04.880 --> 02:07:07.800 Night Lives, and uh yeah, thank you all,