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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Why we do what we do? Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Why we do what we do Mini. I am

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<v Speaker 1>your host Abraham, and I'm your oh Shane. We are

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<v Speaker 1>a psychology podcast. We talk about the things that humans

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<v Speaker 1>and non human animals do, mostly humans, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a mini, which means it's short. We've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing This is our one hundred and fourteenth mini,

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<v Speaker 1>so we've been doing these for some time now, over

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<v Speaker 1>two years. We enjoy the minis. They're cool. We release

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<v Speaker 1>these on Mondays in full length episodes on Wednesdays. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're joining us for the first time, then welcome. I

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're a returning person, then welcome back. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoy what you hear in this discussion. And

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<v Speaker 1>those things at the end, but we need to dive

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<v Speaker 1>into this because it's a mini. Yes, unless there's anything

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to add or anything that I forgot before

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<v Speaker 1>we begin.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think we're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, we recently released, recorded, and released an episode

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<v Speaker 1>outlining the dystopian, draconian evil proposal to destroy science and

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<v Speaker 1>the scientific process and progress recently put forward by the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump dump administration. That was an episode that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that was an episode that happened, And we can't

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<v Speaker 3>believe that we have to say that sentence out loud. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>in our passionate disapproval of this ridiculous proposal, we did

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<v Speaker 3>not outline all the changes that they were proposing, but

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<v Speaker 3>we did end with a call of that to action,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically called action to submit public feedback.

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<v Speaker 1>So, while it's understandable that you may want to screen

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<v Speaker 1>belliger at obscenities as I did in that episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do a little bit in this episode at the

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<v Speaker 1>belligerent dubscenity that is this asinine proposal, it is important

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<v Speaker 1>that feedback constructed in such a way as to be

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<v Speaker 1>as effective as possible if you're going to leave feedback

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<v Speaker 1>on this proposal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this episode's going to provide some tips on

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<v Speaker 3>how to write feedback to be as influential as possible,

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<v Speaker 3>to be maximally persuasive, specifically regarding this particular thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So to make sure we're clear, what we're saying is

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<v Speaker 1>we have a certain window of time with which we

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<v Speaker 1>can leave feedback on this proposal. We as a country.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you in the United States, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if there's people, probably not out people outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, but people in this country. It is

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<v Speaker 1>open to the public for comment. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be a scientist, but if you are a scientist, I

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<v Speaker 1>strongly encourage you to weigh in. But otherwise the public

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<v Speaker 1>can weigh on in this. They gave us a very

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<v Speaker 1>short window. It was only forty five days, which is

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<v Speaker 1>very short for something particularly as sweeping as this. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>like this has ever been tried in this country before.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a horrible step in the wrong direction, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is where we stand. So just to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're clear. The essentially what we're saying is you should

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<v Speaker 1>go comment on this, but for that comment to have weight,

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<v Speaker 1>we have some suggestions for things that you can do

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<v Speaker 1>to construct it in such a way that it's likely

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<v Speaker 1>to be influential.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>What we didn't include in the original conversation of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that they are proposing to change in these grants,

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<v Speaker 1>we included some things we talked about the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they're essentially going to shift all final say to an

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<v Speaker 1>appointed politician that the priorities are to carry out the

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<v Speaker 1>president's agenda, but we didn't mention that they are also

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<v Speaker 1>proposing to remove funding for scientists to attend conferences, which

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<v Speaker 1>is where a huge amount of dissemination and collaboration occurs,

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<v Speaker 1>unless that was approved by the overseeing politician, which means

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<v Speaker 1>that is on a case by case basis, which at

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<v Speaker 1>best is going to decimate attendance at these conferences. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which if those conferences lose, like they barely straight by

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<v Speaker 1>with the amount that they have, if they lose a

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<v Speaker 1>huge proportion of their attendees, they will die. They also

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<v Speaker 1>added that funding in these grants can be terminated at

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<v Speaker 1>any time without any warning. They can just say nope,

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<v Speaker 1>you're done and then pull all of that funding. The

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<v Speaker 1>funding cannot be used to try to advertise or reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to new employees to hire for these projects. So

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<v Speaker 1>can't use the money from that you'd be getting for

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<v Speaker 1>that research to hire new people. You just have to

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<v Speaker 1>hope that they magically show up in your space and

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<v Speaker 1>ask for a job, which also means there's a reduction

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<v Speaker 1>in the kind of merit based hires that will likely

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<v Speaker 1>take place. We may have mentioned this, but just to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure it's very clear, they are nearly abolishing the

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<v Speaker 1>capacity to do any international collaboration whatsoever. There might be

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<v Speaker 1>some case by case basis, but the priority is we

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<v Speaker 1>only do things related to and directly involving the United

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<v Speaker 1>States full stop, because the United States doesn't exist on

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<v Speaker 1>planet Earth, that exists in its own private spaceship, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have anything to do with planet Earth. Sure, and

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<v Speaker 1>that the funding can be rejected even from consideration, like

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. You have to read it if it contains

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<v Speaker 1>any language the politicians don't like. And I'm not exaggerating

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<v Speaker 1>at all when I say that if it has the

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<v Speaker 1>word diversity, are the word woman, or the word gay,

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<v Speaker 1>even if that's someone's name, it can be excluded from consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are things to know about the changes. The

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<v Speaker 1>first link that I'm putting in the notes for this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>so where you find this episode, the very first link

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be where you can go to submit

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<v Speaker 1>your feedback. FYI, all right, now, let's talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>to lay feedback.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's take a break for an ad first, so

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<v Speaker 3>that you can scream a little bit, and then we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about the feedback.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to give you a moment to decompress.

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<v Speaker 3>Scream into a pillow, scream at your local politician, scream somewhere,

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<v Speaker 3>aim it, but scream a little bit, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 3>come back, and then we'll talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Scream with these ads, Scream with these ads. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. You screamed at the ads, the ads screamed

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<v Speaker 1>at you. Let's talk about how to give feedback.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So, while a large volume of feedback will likely

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<v Speaker 3>construe the magnitude of opinion about a topic, it is

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<v Speaker 3>important understand that the comments are not like votes. An effective,

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<v Speaker 3>well written side comment might be more influential than one

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<v Speaker 3>thousand poorly written comments right well, or you may be

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<v Speaker 3>dismissed out of hand without consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one important piece here is they're like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you just go in screaming belligerent things, they won't read it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd make a well constructed comment, they're likely to

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<v Speaker 1>bear a lot more weight. Another important thing here is

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<v Speaker 1>to start drafting your feedback right now or three weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The deadline is eleven fifty nine pm Eastern Time, July thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's said through July thirteenth, ending on July thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw eleven fifty nine, so I derived from

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<v Speaker 1>that that that's what that means. But it could be

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<v Speaker 1>July twelfth. Get it in before then, Like, just set

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<v Speaker 1>the deadline for yourself of July eleventh to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're definitely there on time. If you're going to write feedback,

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<v Speaker 1>get started right away. You'll need plenty of time to

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<v Speaker 1>carefully craft your message and get it submitted, ideally well

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<v Speaker 1>before the deadline, and do not put this off to

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<v Speaker 1>the last minute, so that it definitely gets into the system.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, another important point, be clear on who you are

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<v Speaker 3>and why your opinion matters. Even if you're just a

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<v Speaker 3>private concern citizen, that is a valid point of view,

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<v Speaker 3>but avoid presenting yourself as an expert in something of

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<v Speaker 3>which you are not an expert, or as a fringed

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<v Speaker 3>lunatic with a chip on their shoulder. If you're a

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<v Speaker 3>professional on field but are writing from your own personal viewpoints,

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<v Speaker 3>say this clearly. If you're reporting in tandem with others

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<v Speaker 3>from your field or organization. Then say that if you're

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<v Speaker 3>reporting just for yourself, then express that whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 3>Say who you are and why you are concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>Make that explicitly clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they want to know like that you are something,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're a person, you're a real person, that you

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<v Speaker 1>have real value to add and that, and so just

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<v Speaker 1>telling them who you are and where you come from

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<v Speaker 1>is important. Another important thing is to be constructive and

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<v Speaker 1>be specific. This is kind of two points, so I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say the to say them as two separate points,

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<v Speaker 1>but be constructive and be specific. It helps to identify

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<v Speaker 1>in your feedback the specific rules you are concerned with.

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<v Speaker 1>There are many. If you are not sure what they

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<v Speaker 1>are exactly or how they're phrased, look them up. Make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you know exactly what you're talking about. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not inappropriate to make broad comments like you could go

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<v Speaker 1>in here saying like I have a problem with all

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and that's okay. You can make those broad comments,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can be more influential to cite specific language

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<v Speaker 1>rules or sections of the proposal with which you are concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>So like you and you can do both. You can

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<v Speaker 1>say like, I think these are the problematic implications of

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<v Speaker 1>these rules. Here are the specific rules I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>and phrase it that way if you like whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is like. Just make sure that you are clear on

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. And I would even say, don't take

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<v Speaker 1>our word for granted on what these rules are like.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at them and read them, because it is important

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<v Speaker 1>that you know what you're talking about as it's written down.

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<v Speaker 1>Or again, they might just dismiss it out of hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and when you do, state what you think should

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<v Speaker 3>happen instead of what is proposed. So it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>enough to complain about something or be upset about something.

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<v Speaker 2>And point out the errors.

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<v Speaker 3>It's important to be able to offer some solutions to

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<v Speaker 3>of evolution who represent the worst of our species and

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<v Speaker 3>who are so stupid they can't tell the difference between

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<v Speaker 3>their ass and a hole in the ground. We must

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<v Speaker 3>constrain our language to constructive how to do it better

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<v Speaker 3>and use phrasing that includes pros cons trade offs about

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<v Speaker 3>various aspects of the rules proposed, but take a clear

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<v Speaker 3>stance and offer solutions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. And another thing that can be very helpful is

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<v Speaker 1>use data and evidence wherever possible, use citations, use exact data.

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<v Speaker 1>It is helpful to cite specific examples and sources to

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<v Speaker 1>support your position and opinion when those are relevant and available.

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<v Speaker 1>Not all things will be and that's okay, But like

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<v Speaker 1>if you can try and include those, there are things

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<v Speaker 1>have citations, And like I said, that could be a

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<v Speaker 1>totally valid way of presenting things. But where you can

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<v Speaker 1>find some evidence and citations and support, use them. That

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And finally, be concise. It is more likely that

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<v Speaker 3>your opinions will be read and considered if they are

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<v Speaker 3>delivered in an efficient manner. Relatedly, avoid using jargoning acronyms.

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<v Speaker 3>Speak simply and plainly, especially given the population that we're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to talk to, And remember that these are very

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<v Speaker 3>stupid people elected by very stupid people, and a vicious

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<v Speaker 3>cycle of very stupid people doing stupid things causing more

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<v Speaker 3>very stupid people to exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Small simple words to get through to their p.

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<v Speaker 3>Sized brains will be the most effective way to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>So really clear, really concise. Maybe a way to say

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<v Speaker 1>At best, Yeah, like avoid multi syllabic words. Possibly, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they allow for some attachments. If you have attachments,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that. I don't want to discourage you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I actually so. I included several here that are various

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<v Speaker 1>agencies that have put forth some tips and guidelines for

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<v Speaker 1>how to write public comment feedback to be maximally effective.

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<v Speaker 1>Check those out. We essentially summarize those points here, just

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<v Speaker 1>I said, this is not voting. It'd be nice if

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<v Speaker 1>it was, but this is not voting. This is like

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I'm at least happy that they gave us this

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<v Speaker 1>if they didn't, and so let's tell them where they

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, perfect all right.

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of our full length discussions, which come

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<v Speaker 2>Shane, Hey, anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else that I missed that you'd like

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<v Speaker 3>Stand up, speak out? I mean this is use your voice.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got it, so use it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they made this available to us to comments on.

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<v Speaker 1>Do use this platform. Please speak up, Please have your

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<v Speaker 1>weighing in on this topic so we can hopefully avoid

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<v Speaker 1>the bleakest future in the history of this country. So right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for listening to. This is Abraham, This is Shane.

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<v Speaker 1>Why we Do what we Do? Mini is Out.

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