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I want to welcome everyone back to part sixty of

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our reading of two hundred Years Together by Alexander Sultanessen,

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Doctor Johnson, how are you this fine Monday afternoon?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's okay up here. I did the lawn yesterday,

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which means, you know, probably tonight it's gonna have to

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be done again. You know what strikes me about what

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we've been talking about here, the early Bolshevik Revolution almost

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completely Jewish, the fall of the Soviet Union almost completely Jewish,

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and that as the second aspect of it, is going

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to be a topic I'm going to be addressing very soon.

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You know, why did the Jews separate from the USSR

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in the nineteen seventies, which they did. They're certainly an

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economic reason, but there are other reasons too, And once

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they separated, what was left became a fairly patriotic you

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know that like where Putin came out of a non

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Judaic it's still you know, they weren't really marks anymore,

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and that's when they got into a lot of trouble.

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It makes me laugh. The only time that there were

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ever any sanctions on the USSR was over the Jewish

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question their immigration in the Jackson Vanic Amendment. But it

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strikes that both sides of the Revolution. The revolution has

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ended in the twenties and the nineties are both loaded

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with Jews from top to bottom.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's continue picking up where we left off

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last time. In the beginning of April, the provisional government

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issued and ordered by telegraph to free without individual investigation,

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all Jews previously exiled as suspects of espionage. Some of

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them resided in the now occupied territories, while others could

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safely return home. And yet many deportees asked for permission

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to reside in the cities of the European part of Russia.

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There was a flow of Jews into Petrograd Jewish population

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fifty thousand in nineteen seventeen, and a sharp increase of

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Jewish population in Moscow sixty thousand.

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Speaker 2: That's a huge number. That means they had the There

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was a possibility of completely dominating the economy. The only

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thing that saved the US, sorry the Tzarist Empire here

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was the royal control over the currency. I think the

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only real competitors they may have had were the old

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Believers who moved into the merchant trades on a very

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different foundation. They plowed their profits back into their people.

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They also had a very strong sense of persecution and

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a strong sense of identity. Old believer merchants is almost,

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you know, a common thing. I have a book on

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this topic, by the way, on the Old Believers in general,

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and that's probably the only company. You know, fifty thousand

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in nineteen seventeen in Saint Petersburg. That's more than enough

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to control many elements of Uh, what was what was

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going on? I don't think they made a huge difference,

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whether it was the Council of Soviets, whether it was

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the Amenseoviks with the Bolsheviks or anyone in between. They

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had one agenda. And if anyone listened to my well

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I recorded, uh Saturday night, it won't come on until Thursday. Uh,

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you know, on this, you know, on this very topic,

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and that might be worth it listen. But but these

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numbers are huge for the time. But don't forget there

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was They were able to live wherever they wanted before this.

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You know, I've been I've been reading lenin a lot

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of Latin recently, and just the dishonesty, all the stuff

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we've been talking about, the pogrims and everything else. He

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just ramps it up and uses all these very vague abstractions.

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The Russian worker. He's talking about the party, but rather

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than say the party, he means the Russian worker. He

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says the Russian worker. There were no Russian workers involved.

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Lenin was aware at this point, well in another another

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few months anyway, that he was a tiny minority in

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the Bolshek Party, and probably was at the time. He

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had to tread very carefully. Whenever he wrote in the Jews,

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he sounded like an idiot because it was all special pleading.

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You know, Lenin is writing on the Jewish question is

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is It's almost funny if it didn't lead to so

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many people being murdered. And that's exactly what they were

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doing at the time when this from from from this

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point the takeover, the Civil War and right up practically

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until the nineteen seventies. It was a concerted destruction of

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Russia in particular. But they would use nationalisms like the

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Baltics or Ukraine. They would create those when it suited them,

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just like now, you know, the regime doesn't care about

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Ukrainian nationalism. It's as convenient right now. So on Thursday

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and Radio Albion listen to my show. Clearly it's based

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on some of the stuff we've been talking about in

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a summary way, and you know it's you know, basically

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it comes down to the topic. Is everyone talks about

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the laws that Lenden passed again anti Semitism, but don't

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really ever cites them and talk about it all the

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time in fact, but no one mentions that. Says, well,

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I go through the ma all from essentrallyeen nineteen eighteen,

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nineteen nineteen when they were first promulgated to just after

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Lenin's death, and what they meant and how they were

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interpreted later on. That's what I'm talking about here, because

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you know, they knew that they were taking over, but

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they couldn't have anyone talking about it here. They were

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just not in that position yet, even though Jews were

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everywhere in the Menshevik government, but not quite like it was.

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From November on.

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Speaker 1: Russian Jews received less numerous, but highly energetic reinforcement from abroad.

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Take those two famous trains that crossed hostile Germany without

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hindrance and brought to Russian nearly two hundred prominent individuals,

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thirty in Lenin's and one hundred and sixty and Natansen

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Martov's train with Jews comprising an absolute majority. Passengers of

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the Extra extra Territorial Trains were for the first time

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published by v Bertsev. They represented almost all Jewish parties

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emertually all of them would play a substantial role in

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the future events of Russia. Hundreds of Jews returned from

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the United States, former emigrants, revolutionaries and draft escapees. Now

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they all were the revolutionary fighters and victims of Tsarism.

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By order of Kerensky, the Russian Embassy in the USA

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issued Russian passports to anyone who could provide just two

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witnesses to testify to identity, literally from the street. The

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situation around Trotsky's group was peculiar. They were apprehended in

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Canada on suspicion of connections with Germany. The investigation found

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that Trotsky traveled not with flimsy Russian papers, but with

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a solid American passport, inexplicably granted to him despite his

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short stay in the USA, and with a substantial yeah

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and with a substantial sum of money, the source of

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which remained the mis history a mystery. On June twenty second,

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at the Exalted Russian Rally in New York City, directed

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by P. Ruttenberg, one time friend and then a murderer

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of gapone Abraham Kagan, the editor of Jewish newspaper Forwards.

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Wow they're still around. The editor of Jewish newspaper Forwards

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addressed Russian Ambassador bakmtev On behalf of two million Russian

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Jews residing in the United States of America. We have

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always loved our motherland. We have always sensed the links

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of brotherhood with the entire Russian nation. Our hearts are

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loyal to the red banner of Russian liberation and to

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the national tricolor of the free Russia. He had also

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claimed that the self sacrifice of the members of the

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Nara Volya literally the people as well as terrorists left

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wing revolutionary group in Tsarist Russia, best known for his

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assassination of Tsar Alexander the Second known as the Tsar

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Liberator for ending serfdom, was directly connected to the fact

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of the fact of increased persecution of the Jews and

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that people like Zandalovich, di Deitsch, Gershuni Jewish Ibramovich were

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among the bravest.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know. Sometimes I don't know what to

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do with paragraphs like this. It would it depends on

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my energy level at the time. Of course, you know,

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the Bolsheviks hadn't taken over yet. This is still the

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provisional era. World War One is still going on. The

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trains that brought the you know, Jews were in nineteen hundred,

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Jewish males were one point one percent of the population

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of the Russian Empire. Given what was asked of them

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in the early Soviet era, you know, there weren't enough

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Jews to so and there certainly weren't enough Rusians to

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fill these roles. They didn't trust them anyway, so they

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were busting them in, so to speak, from all over

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the place. Trotsky showed up. I think I mentioned the

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Canada thing. Of course, he got the passport from a

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shift associate that was paid for and everything. He came

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with with a bunch of I don't know, a small

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army of Jews from Brooklyn. He worked at, of course,

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a newspaper like Marx worked at a mainstream newspaper when

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he was when he was alive writing articles. I mean,

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these guys were always in the media, loved by the

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media and even writing for it. Martov, of course, who

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was the kind of the semi theoretician of the men's

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Vics also a Jew. But you know, there's the there's

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so much there's so much error, there's so much evil here,

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there's so much sickness here. And the frustrating element is

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that I know that there are people out there making

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a lot of money claiming to be experts on Russian

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history who will deny all of this or claim that

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it's irrelevant and attack me personally or professionally as a

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result of this when the evidence is so blatant. Can

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you imagine writing a history of the Russian Revolution and

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not mentioning any of this stuff. It's absurd. What are

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you getting? You end up getting the same kind of

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Maudlin emotional stuff that Lena was writing about the Jews

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at the time. Lenin took the stuff from the Jewish

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press and just repeated it in his own in his

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own work, I cited I don't know if there's an

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English version, but Solomon's Schtz who was there at the time,

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who eventually split. He actually split with the Soviets because

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they didn't kill enough Christians, that the anti anti Semitic

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laws weren't harsh enough. And it's absolutely true, and he

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fled with Trotsky, and you know, created what eventually would

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be the neocon movement, this obsession with the Soviet Union,

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but only the Stalinists and Postdalmous Soviet Union, which they

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claimed was very different from what had come before, even

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though their policies were exactly the same in every way.

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I have tried to figure out how Trotsky differed from

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Lenin different from Stalin, and I can't. Maybe personalities, you know,

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and while Trotsky claimed to be an internationalist, he had

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Jews everywhere around him. That can't be a coincident. And

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it's just this whole thing that the evil that we're

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seeing unfold here really has an effect on normal people,

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sensitive people, and normal people.

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Speaker 1: And so they had begun coming back, and not just

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from New York. Judging by the official introduction of discounted

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railroad fare for political political emigrants traveling from Vladivostok. At

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the late July rally in Whitechapel, London, it was found

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that in London alone ten thousand Jews declared their willingness

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to return to Russia. The final resolution had expressed pleasure

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that Jews would go back to struggle for the new

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social and democratic Russia, destinies of many returnees hurrying to

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participate in the revolution and jumping headlong into the thick

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of things were outstanding. Among the returnees were the famous

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V Volodarsky, m Uritzky and Yu Laren. The latter was

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the author of the War Communism Economy program. It is

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less known that Jakov Sverdlov's brother V looks like essentially

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Benjamin Yeah yeah Yeah, was also among the retorneys. Still,

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he would not manage to write higher than the Deputy

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Narkom People's Commissioner of Communications and a member of Board

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of Supreme Soviet of National Economy, Moise Kartunonov or Karatonov,

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Lenin's associate and emigration who returned to Russia in the

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same train with him, quickly gained notoriety by assisting the

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anarchists in their famous robbery in April. Later he was

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secretary of PERM Saratov and Sverdlov Gubkums and the secretary

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of Ural's Bureau of the Central Committee. Semyon dimon Stein,

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a member of the Bolshevik group in Paris, would become

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the head of the Jewish Commissariat at the People's Commissariat

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of Nationalities and later the head of Yevsek at the

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All Russian Central Executive Committee. He would in fact supervise

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the entire Jewish life, even though it was called the

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All Russian Central All Russian. Yeah. Amazingly, at the age

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of eighteen, he managed to pass qualify cationas has to

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become a rabbi and became a member of the Russian

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Social Democratic Workers Party. All this and of course one

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year similarly, members of the Trotsky's group had also fared.

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While the jeweler g. Melenansky, the accountant Freeman, the typographer

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A Mincoln Mensin and the decorator Gomberg Zorin had respectively

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headed Soviet trade unions Pravda to Dispatch Office of Banknotes

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and Securities and the Petrograd Revolutionary Tribunal.

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Speaker 2: And these are the people who, when they wrote, claimed

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to be speaking for the Russian workers. None of these

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people had any connection with them whatsoever. I can't stress

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that enough they weren't. The only actual workers were those

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of Russian background. There were a handful of them. But

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it's easy to forget that the Bolsheviks had to bust

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in huge numbers of Jews, and almost exclusively Jews from

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the US, Britain, and elsewhere to help staff this this revolution.

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They simply didn't trust Russians enough, you know, uh, the Anarki.

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Of course, the anarchists are going to be persecuted because

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they don't really in the bank robbery. That's fine, you know,

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they think they're cut, but that's it. The minute they

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took over, they were gone. You know, you can't really

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trust them anyway. They were useful. They're in the civil

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war in a few places, and that's that's it. This

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is you know, this was an alien government in every way,

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an anti Russian government in every way it was. It

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was very very Orwellian, calling themselves the All Russian Central Committee,

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well none of them being Russians. And of course the

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fact that almost all of them changed their names suggests

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that they needed to show that this wasn't a or

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They wanted to show. They were very im misconscious. Bullshiks

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were very image conscious, especially in the beginning actually actually

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throughout the Soviet Union. They were very concerned with what

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the West thought of them. And you know, putting Lennon

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up in an the front was important because he wasn't

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obviously Jewish, he had such a mess of an ethnic background,

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but he wasn't. He wasn't. Do you know he wasn't

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you know Elsteine or something like that. He putting him

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out in front was one of the ways of saying, oh, yeah,

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this isn't. This isn't a Jewish government, despite all of

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the ambassadors from England and the Netherlands writing back saying

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that this is an ethnic movement and these are the

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people who spoke in the name not only of the

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workers but the peasants. You imagine these people marching off

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to a to a peasant commune. They've never seen a

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farming before. They hated this is that's goiamwork. And of

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course while it was a semi it was a socialist

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form of a traditional Christian form of family based socialism,

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which the commune always was. You would think they'd be

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happy with that. Well no, because they're not. I don't

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care about any of that. It was a Christian thing

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that had to be destroyed. And instead they began talking

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about the collective farms. What could be called collective farms

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the total opposite of the of the communes. Collective farms

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were huge, and you know, random families were thrown in

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and of course everything collapsed within the next few years,

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the Russian economy will go to zero, so to speak.

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The economy was doing extremely well right up until nineteen fourteen,

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and even after nineteen fourteen. These guys take over for

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a short time and it it gets to the point

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where they need aid from the West for everything. Well,

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I thought the West was anti Communists. They were very

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anti Russian, but they lived on American aid for a

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long time. Would Wilson was a huge part of that.

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You know, I can only imagine being a Russian you know,

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farmer at the time seeing this bunch take over. What

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the hell is going to happen to me? Were a

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Russian worker. They didn't give a damn about the Russian worker.

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They then were pressed. The exploitation was beyond belief from

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here on in. So obviously exploitation and hence Marxism wasn't

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wasn't the issue. It's my theory and I did it

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in my book The Soviet Experiment. It was a way

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collect or, you know, the central the command economy. Central

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planning essentially implies ownership. You know, they owned everything. You

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can't plan everything unless you own it or control it.

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That that was a way to enrich jewelry beyond, you know,

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taking the labor of Russian workers for generations in the past.

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And when these guys died, you know, when when Trotsky

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was asked, he was what today would be considered a billionaire.

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Same thing for all of these guys. They stole, they

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had gold, they had gold, rubles, they had everything. They

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were incredibly wealthy men because they were part of this revolution.

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It had nothing to do with the labor. It had

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nothing to do with the workers. The proletariat, the real proletariat,

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suffered beyond belief under these people. And somehow we have

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to convince you know, normies of that, and frankly, the

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entire history of the twentieth century has to be rewritten,

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right right from the bottom up.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you upset some low iq Spergs there

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by saying Lenin wasn't Jewish, because it seems that some

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people have to feel like they have to convince people

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that Lenin and even Stalin were Jewish, because I don't

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know why.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Stalind definitely wasn't. He went to the Orthodox seminary

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for a while. A dgu The first three letters of

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his name in English does not mean Jew. The Georgian

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word for Jew would be y Israeli, so coming from Israel,

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Israel some kind, their pronunciation of it dgu has no

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connection to so that's not true. Lenin wasn't Jewish, but

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he had Jewish in his background, possibly a Jewish father

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or at least in grand but he had it in

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his background, but he never identified that way.

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Speaker 1: Unlike Pronchki, names of other returneyes after the February Revolution

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are now completely forgotten, yet wrongly so, as they played

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important roles in the revolutionary events. For example, the doctor

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of biology Ivan ZELKND had actively participated in the October

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coup and then in fact Ran Trotsky's people Commissariate of

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Internal Affairs Semyon Kogan Semkoff became the political khmmizaar of

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ish Schift's weapons and steel factories in November nineteen eighteen.

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That is, he was in charge of the vindictive actions

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during suppression of major uprising of Ishvesh workers, known for

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its large in many thousands victims toll. In a single

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incident on the Sobernaya Square in Ishvesh, four hundred workers

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were gone downs.

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Speaker 2: Talking there good, yeah, yeah, let me cop you there.

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This is supposed to be the spokesman for the Proletariat

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November nineteen eighteen. They'd been in power roughly a year,

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sort of the civil war had just begun. They had

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some of the cities, They had Odeshia, they had Petersburg.

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Whenever any labor would stick up their heads and complain,

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they could gun down. So ours government didn't do that,

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at least not without provocation. In this case they were

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gunned down. I don't know how anyone could believe that

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these people had any concern with workers whatsoever. Socialism was

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just a pretext for them to take the products.

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Speaker 1: Of their labor. Tobinsen Krishna Shechekhov later headed the entire

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Far East as the Secretary of the Far East Bureau

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and the head of local government Gershfield. Stashevsky, under the

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pseudonym Vrkovski, was in command of a squad of German

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POWs and turncoats. That is, he laid found a for

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the Bolshevik International squads. In nineteen twenty, he was ahead

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of the clandestine intelligence at the Western Front. Later, in peacetime, he,

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on orders of Czecha Presidium, had organized intelligence network in

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the Western Europe. He was awarded the title of Honorary Czechist.

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Among attorneys were many who did not share Bolshevik views,

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at least at the time of arrival, but they were

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nevertheless welcomed into the rank of Lenin and Trotsky's party.

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For instance, although Yakub Fishman, a member of the Military

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Revolutionary Committee of the October Coup, had deviated from the

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Bolshevik mainstream by participating in the Left Socialist Revolutionary Insurrection

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in July nineteen eighteen, he was later accepted into the

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Russian Communist Party of Bolsheviks and entrusted with a post

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in the Military Intelligence Administration of the Red Army. Or

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take Yefim Jarchuk, who had returned as an anarchist syndicalist

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but was delegated to the Petrograd Soviet to reinforce the

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stad Soviet. During the October Coup, he had brought a

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squad of sailors to Petrograd to storm the winter Palace

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the Retornee Sevlo. I'm not pronouncing that Iichenbaum, the brother

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of the literary scholar, was a consistent supporter of anarchism

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and the idea and the ide the ideolgist, the ideologist

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of Machno, a Ukrainian separatist anarchist movement. He was the

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head of the Revolutionary Military SOVIETKNO in the Machno Army.

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We know that Machno was more of an advantage than

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a detriment of Bolsheviks, and as a result, Volin was

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later merely forced to emigrate together with a dozen or

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other anarchists.

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Speaker 2: The academic establishment will tell you that there were three

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sides to the Russians Civil War, the White, the Reds,

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and what they call the Greens. There was a kron

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all of truth to that. The Greens would be a

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Nestor Makknow, who pretended to be Koalasaki was not. They

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can still call on one though. Nestor Makno was probably

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the best known of that. He had a lot of

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misgivings about what the what Lendin was saying, but he

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worked for them anyway. Eventually, anyone of these people, you know,

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would have been purged regardless. And but but that's just

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a way for them to not support the way they

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can't support the Reds. Clearly, that would be supporting Stalin

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most many of them do. But they really have trouble

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with it because coming out and saying the Reds were

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right but they certainly can't support the whites, so they

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created this third force that they call the Greens, which

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they claimed the peasants were involved in, which was was

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not true. Well, the whites certainly failed to connect with

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the peasant and endless peasant uprisings, but so did these guys.

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These guys did know the first thing about peasants, just

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like Macno didn't know the first thing about a car stack.

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And that's the creation. Really, there's a there's a kernel

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of truth to it, but for the most part, it's

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it's a creation of the academic establishment that there was

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this third side that you know, non non Marxists in

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the academy that liberals, i should say, can't accept and

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not have to feel bad about supporting the reds. They're liberals,

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they're not Marxists, and so this green side is a

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way to support or to fight the whites without having to,

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you know, give in the supporting the red because of

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course they weren't exactly liberal. And it's there's a lot

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of books on it now I've read them all, and

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beyond that, you know, they do say that a lot

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of these guys were not necessar Charley Bolshoviks it really

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didn't matter. A lot of them were. They were so pseudointellectual.

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They would write about workers and peasants. They had no

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idea what was going on in Russia at the time.

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But they eventually got with the program. Some of them

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were eliminated, but not all of them, not the majority of.

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Speaker 1: Them, and.

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Speaker 2: So the Jewish interest was the main one. Now, over

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the years, I have read everything I could in Russian

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and English on these different groups, subgroups and the far

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left at this period of time, and trying to find

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a difference among them, a significant difference that would matter

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is very difficult. So I have the feeling that they're

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based more on personalities and agendas rather than actual ideological goals.

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One of the reasons that the Reds won, and it's

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an important reason, was that Lenin and Trotsky enforced total

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theological uniformity. These are our goals, and you better go

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along with the program. The whites really didn't have a program.

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White generals were all over the place. They're all, you know,

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disburst among the empire, all fighting on different fronts. Some

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were royalists, some were more more liberals, some were against

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the monarchy, some were some were very orthodox, some weren't.

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They had no firm agenda. There was nothing to fight for,

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so at a minimum, they're fighting for a negative We're

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going to die to make sure that the Soviets don't

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the Reds don't take over. That's not as good as

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having a positive program to fight for, like Orthodoxy, that

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would have had full support in that game. The best

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Russian White generals Compel Dietrichs my two favorites again German names.

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They were the strictest Orthodox and the strictest Royalists, and

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they did extremely well despite being more minor having smaller armies,

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because they had a full agenda that people understood, people

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were born and raised with. So by the time the

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Civil War was over, they realized that, you know, that

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kind of royalists, they had to be destroyed. They had

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to be killed. And the peasants that supported them pretty

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much all the time, some were old believers, and peasants

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were heavily old believers, so that that was a whole

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separate issue. But I had to be liquidated because the

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best performing of the White armies were those under the

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strictest royalist generals like Dietrix, who was a very very

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good man.

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Speaker 1: The expectations of attorneys were not unfounded. Those were the

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months marked by a notable rise to prominence from many

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Jews in Russia. Quote the Jewish question exists no longer

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in Russia. End quote. Still in the newspaper essay by

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00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:18,759
d A'sman and Sarah Alperovich, the wife of a merchant

470
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,599
who moved from Mince to Petrograd, had expressed her doubts.

471
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So there is no more slavery and that's it. So

472
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:26,880
what about the things that Nicholas of yesterday did to

473
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,279
us in kishinev? In another article, David Eisman thus elaborated

474
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:35,119
his thought. Quote, Jews must secure the gains of revolution

475
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,119
by any means, without any qualms. Any necessary sacrifice must

476
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,279
be made. Everything is on the stake here and all

477
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,279
will be lost if we hesitate. Even the most backward

478
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:49,519
parts of Jewish mass. Of Jewish mass understand this. No

479
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,079
one questions what would happen if to Jews if the

480
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:56,359
counter revolution prevails? End quote. He was absolutely confident that

481
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,319
if this happens, there would be mass execution of Jews. Therefore, quote,

482
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,559
the filthy scum must be crushed even before it had

483
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,839
any chance to develop. In embryo there very seed must

484
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,000
be destroyed. Jews will be able to defend their freedom.

485
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: I just said that without realizing it was going to

486
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,760
be in the next in the very next, uh, the

487
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,760
very next paragraph. The Talmutic mentality. You know, you don't

488
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,199
have to be a student directly at the Talmud to

489
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,199
have a Talmutic mentality. You know, Jews still were a

490
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,559
very separate group of people and that way of thinking,

491
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:39,119
especially you know, the superiority gentile women as prostitutes, gentiles

492
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:44,079
of as animals occasionally useful animals. But now they didn't

493
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:46,440
really have to worry what people thought of them. You know,

494
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,639
in the past, you know that, you know they couldn't

495
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:54,159
carry out you know, the best of the gentiles should

496
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,320
be killed. Well, you really can't do that in Russia

497
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,440
before this, because you know, you would, people would turn

498
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,599
on you. Here, they don't have to do that. There

499
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:06,840
was no question as to who these people were, which

500
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,599
is why there had to be this list of laws

501
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,719
and decrees from Lenin that Stalin went out of his

502
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,840
way to enforce and mention it to an Israeli sorry,

503
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,599
an American Jewish journalist against anti Semitism and the definition

504
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:29,119
of anti Semitism back then, Lenin actually said, I still

505
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,880
remember I just did it. So Lenin said, anti Semitism

506
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,920
is spreading enmity against Jews. Now that's the opposite of

507
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,920
a definition. That doesn't tell me anything essentially, anything that

508
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,119
Jews don't like. But the main thing was that you

509
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:48,679
can't talk about them essentially being in control of the

510
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:53,360
Red government. They were the workers. The workers fought for Lenin,

511
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,400
The workers fought for Tronticky. Yeah, they may have been

512
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,480
a handful of holdout to you know, like the monarchy. Well,

513
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,360
you know, they're just they need to be educated. But

514
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,440
otherwise the workers fought for us. It's almost a type

515
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,280
of manifesting. They think if they say it enough times,

516
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,639
it's going to be true. But we remember in the

517
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,800
nineteen oh five revolution they had to go into the

518
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:24,480
factories with rifles and force them to strike. That's the

519
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,519
only way they get them to do it. Again, they

520
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:32,320
were paid fairly well. Russian workers were paid very well,

521
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,559
especially in relation to Western Europe. So that mentality has

522
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:41,719
not gone away. And you notice what he says, Nicholas

523
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,599
of yesterday did it to Nicholas killed us in Kishnev.

524
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,920
They really believe that juice. Intellectuals believe that. Let him believe.

525
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: Let Lendon said it.

526
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 2: That's how bad it got, this twisted mentality. Of course

527
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,159
we were innocent victims, We did nothing wrong. But Nicholas

528
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:03,559
signed a document and sent Henchman out to go kill

529
00:37:03,679 --> 00:37:08,119
Jews for no reason. They really truly believe that, and

530
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:12,440
it's being preached today every day on the History Channel,

531
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,880
the stupid you know historians on YouTube and all these guys.

532
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:21,760
But there is not a no basis for any of

533
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,679
that in the actual evidence. That's one of the main

534
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,760
reasons this book is so wonderful once it was translated

535
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,079
into English. Now I read it in the original. These

536
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:34,639
pieces of it in the original when it when it

537
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:39,760
first came out and people were talking about it. But

538
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,079
he's uncovering stuff that no one had before. Of the

539
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:46,639
Union of the Russian people had a lot of this information,

540
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:48,559
but sold in Easton went to step further and plus

541
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:55,599
he sold in Eatsen. This is a huge crisis for them.

542
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:57,280
You couldn't have picked the better book for us to

543
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,840
go this long on because for those two reasons.

544
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:06,599
Speaker 1: At least crushed in embryo and even their very seed.

545
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,320
It was already pretty much to Bolshevik program, though expressed

546
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,159
in the words of the Old Testament. Yet whose seed

547
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,239
must be destroyed? Monarchists, but they were already breathless. All

548
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,239
their activists could be counted on fingers. So it could

549
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,960
only be those who had taken a stand against the unbridled,

550
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:27,079
running wild Soviets, against all kinds of committees and mad crowds,

551
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,440
those who wished to halt the breakdown of life in

552
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,760
the country, prudent ordinary people, former government officials and first

553
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,000
of all officers, and very soon the soldier General Kornilov.

554
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,639
There were Jews among those counter revolutionaries, but overall that

555
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:49,159
movement was the Russian national one. What about press? In

556
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,519
nineteen seventeen, the influence of print media grew. The number

557
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:56,480
of periodicals and associated journalists and staff was rising. Before

558
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,559
the revolution, only a limited number of media workers qualified

559
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:03,159
for draft deferral, and only those who were associated with

560
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,920
newspapers and printing offices who were established in the pre

561
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:10,440
war years. They were classified as defense enterprises. Despite their

562
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,440
desperate fight against governmental and military censorship. But now from

563
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:19,039
April on the assistance of the publishers, press privileges were

564
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:21,800
expanded with respect to the number of workers exempt from

565
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,320
military service. Newly found that political newspapers were henceforth also

566
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,840
covered by the exemption, sometimes fraudulently, as the only thing

567
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,880
needed to qualify was maintaining a circulation of thirty thousand

568
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,639
for at least two weeks. Draft privileges were introduced on

569
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:40,079
the basis of youth for the political emigrants and those

570
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,239
released from exile, everything the favored employment of new arrivals

571
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,760
in the leftist newspaper. At the same time, rightist newspapers

572
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,599
were being closed. Malenkaya Gazetta Nearadnya Gazeta were shut down

573
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:58,440
for accusing Bolsheviks of having links with Germans. When many

574
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,000
newspapers published the telegram fraudulently attributed to the Empress, and

575
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:05,519
the fake was exposed, it was an innocent joke of

576
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,480
a telegraph operator lady, for which of course she was

577
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:12,119
never disciplined, and so they had to retract their pieces.

578
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:18,880
Bersheievs Vedomosty, for instance, had produced such texts quote. It

579
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,199
turned out that neither the special archive at the main

580
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,400
Department of Post and Telegraph, where the royal telegrams were stored,

581
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,599
nor the head of the Office of Telegraph, contained any

582
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:32,000
evidence of this correspondence. See they presented it as if

583
00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:34,880
telegrams were real, but all traces of their existence had

584
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:40,519
been skillfully erased. What a brave free press these revolutionaries

585
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,239
always talk about. This is same in the Color revolutions.

586
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,599
Today it's happening right now. They talk about a free press.

587
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: I think the phrase now is independent press, which is

588
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,440
synonymous with the press controlled by corporate entities who were

589
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:05,000
overwhelmingly liberal. The Jews had penetrated the media in Russia

590
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:11,239
for a long time, and the Royalists, I mean the

591
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,559
Orthodox did okay on a religious foundation, but not on

592
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:19,079
a political one. Not of constuct came came the closest.

593
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:23,559
But there was no real organist, not until the Civil War,

594
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:29,320
not until well Dietrix. Uh did you have an explicit

595
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,599
militant organization fighting for the monarchy?

596
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

597
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:37,639
Speaker 2: They had, I said this before, but they just had

598
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:43,159
no conception of propaganda. The end of Nicholas's reign, he's

599
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:47,519
still you know, there was no he should have been organizing.

600
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:49,679
And it was easy for us to say now, but

601
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,880
he should have been organizing royalist groups all over the place.

602
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,719
He was a popular man, youth coups and everything else.

603
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:04,719
Now the nationalist movements in Europe in the thirties, they

604
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,920
actually did that. They had realized Nicholas's mistake. You know,

605
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,519
he came from a very much older vision of royal politics.

606
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:19,159
It was orthodox, it was strictly orthodox, it was ethnic.

607
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:25,480
But otherwise politics were you know, ideologies were vulgar. That

608
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:31,639
was only for the left. And so you had not

609
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,880
despite the popularity, despite all of Nicholas's achievements in the

610
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,159
Royal family in general, you never had until the Civil

611
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:44,440
War any kind of Miltont organizations around the country defending

612
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,280
it and fighting for it. Simply didn't happen. So rather

613
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,159
than rather than that, it came out in programs. But

614
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,280
if they had actual Miltont organizations, you wouldn't have programs.

615
00:42:57,679 --> 00:42:59,960
Programs wouldn't have happened, they wouldn't have been as wild

616
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:03,760
and crazy. The Black Hundreds, of course, Union the Russian people,

617
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,159
they're two very different things, came out in nineteen oh five,

618
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,440
nineteen oh six. They had five hundred thousand members. That

619
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:16,679
was the closest you can get, and the Royal government

620
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:21,719
did not support them. Stolepan didn't like them at all.

621
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,800
And during the war, Yeah, you know, saying that there's

622
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:36,679
a connection with the Alexander was was German, and hence

623
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:40,960
maybe she's in bed with them, and so they were

624
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,079
shut down. Actually good newspapers for stuff like this, you know,

625
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:49,920
and in this intervening period before the Bolshevik takeover, they

626
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,960
were building their press foundation and they had no real opposition.

627
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:58,800
It was terrible the frustration, you know. Now, after the

628
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,960
Civil War was over, an exile, you had book after

629
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,760
book after book. I have them all here on Russian

630
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:13,960
royalism and everything, but not before then. It's it's it's

631
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,480
a it's a shame. I don't know what else to

632
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:17,239
say about.

633
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,199
Speaker 1: Well, we finish up a little early, so let me

634
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:22,079
ask you a question and get your take on this.

635
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:26,679
You had already mentioned the Talmud, and I try not

636
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,760
to bring the Talmut up too much because a lot

637
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,400
of people use it as try to bludgeon people with it.

638
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,840
But what a lot of people will say is, well,

639
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,159
most Jews have never even read the Talmud. And you know,

640
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,400
what I try to express to people is is that

641
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:50,679
most don't have to. If you're if your recent ancestors

642
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:53,920
have read the Talmud, you will be influenced by if

643
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,119
you grew up in a home where if you're not

644
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,760
one of if you don't grow up in one of

645
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,000
these completely a theistic Jewish homes, and even if you do,

646
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:06,199
and to a certain extent, Talmudism is just there. It's

647
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,280
going to be. It's going the kind of attitude is

648
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,360
going to be passed on, just as I mean the

649
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:17,400
kind of you know, you have people who are atheists,

650
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:23,239
who are more moral and act more along the line

651
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,519
with the Bible than a lot of Christians do. There's

652
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,960
just going to be an influence there that will survive

653
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:33,960
over generations just because it's it becomes part of your culture.

654
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was kind of you know, a little while

655
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,880
ago I mentioned that concept. You don't have to be

656
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:46,679
a talmut scholar to be Talmuuk, you don't have to

657
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:53,079
be in a lodge to be Masonic. You can still

658
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:57,599
have those Uh, you know, it's in the air, it

659
00:45:57,639 --> 00:45:59,480
is in the culture. It is how they're they're raised.

660
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:04,239
They're used to believe that they are superior, that they're

661
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:09,400
intellectually gifted God, they are essentially you know, collectively God.

662
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:12,800
You know, some god is very vague, especially amongst the Hissidics.

663
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:18,039
God's is very vague flux, you know, spoken about the

664
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:21,159
Sephar and stuff like that and other other contexts. But

665
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,880
in the Kabbala God, who do know where to be

666
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:35,119
found there? That's not quite atheism. And Moses hess his

667
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:41,679
whole purpose was to connect socialist materialism with basic Talmudism,

668
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,719
and he was successful. Now I've read large chunks of

669
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,719
the Talmut when I was in grad school, which was

670
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:56,000
I haven't mentioned that before the Sossino addition we had

671
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:58,920
there still remember it was in the basement. The B

672
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:06,079
section starting with be Beautifully Beautifully Bound, took up the

673
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:10,119
whole shelf. And when the web came out and I

674
00:47:10,199 --> 00:47:13,519
learned about it, I went to the book at the Sanhedrin.

675
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:15,800
Few others that come up in like you know, like

676
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:19,360
Michael Hoffman stuff, And of course there's a lot of

677
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,599
cold words in there. You have to know what the

678
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:25,119
code words mean. So even reading a page took forever.

679
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:32,159
That's why Michael Hoffman's book The Judaism Discovered is brilliant

680
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:34,320
because he could he could synthesize that down into a

681
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,360
normal way, and he could. He agrees with us, you

682
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,920
don't have to be reading Talmud every day. A normal

683
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:45,760
person can't read Talmud every day, but you know, you

684
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,119
don't have to do that to be tell mudick. You know,

685
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:52,119
it comes down to the concept that these people, non Jews,

686
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:57,000
aren't really human. Their mud we could, you could use

687
00:47:57,039 --> 00:47:58,639
them as a goal and whenever we need them. Sometimes

688
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:02,320
they're useful, sometimes they're not. We can't do anything that

689
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,960
we really piss them off, so we would be hurt

690
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:12,039
by it. But in the times of the time of

691
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:16,199
the Russian Civil War, that had all changed. It wasn't

692
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,440
like you had these rabbinical Jews, you know, protesting against

693
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:24,760
the Reds. It never happened. They were supportive. They saw

694
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:30,199
the basics of Talmudism manifest in the Red Army in

695
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:35,840
a very very simple sense. So they didn't like the

696
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,400
Zionist very much. That's true, but the Zionists at this

697
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,760
point were almost completely irrelevant. Not until World War Two

698
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,440
did they ever ever really matter again. But this was

699
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:54,719
a Jewish movement, a Jewish government, a Jewish press, and

700
00:48:55,159 --> 00:49:02,199
you had Jewish supporters in Western Europe preaching to the Gentiles.

701
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,719
You know, we're just like you. We love our motherland,

702
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:13,280
as we heard before. Because the only principle they have

703
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is power, that they are God, that our taking over

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is something we will become God. That way, Adam Cadman

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is the Antichrist, I mean, that's the ultimate the new Man.

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Well need some gentiles around the course, so overwhelming majority

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of Jews or atheists, it really doesn't matter one way

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or the other. Their ideology is not affected by it. Again,

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trotsk Key pretended to be an internationalist, saying that it

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didn't matter. But of course everyone he hired, everyone that

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was around him was a Jew, which is not obviously

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not a coincidence. But it was that Jewish fanaticism, that neuroticism,

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that paranoia that served them very well, not to mention

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Western support, tons of Western support, media support, and a

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firm agenda which of course once of it wasn't even real.

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What they said they were going to do was not

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what they did. And the White Army really was all

718
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that was left, and it was so dispersed, even though

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it was larger. They were all over the place ideologically,

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some of them. You know, initially it started because Kunelov

721
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saw himself as fighting for the provisional government against the Bolshovics.

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That's what you know, the initial White Army, the Cossacks

723
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didn't think that. But the Cossackts thought they were fighting

724
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for their own independence in South Russia. You know, it

725
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was it was a kaleidoscope. That's not what you want

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during a civil war. The Reds are an excellent example

727
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of how to win one of these. I repeat my

728
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off again. The Whites never ever got a penny, not

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a bullet, not a dime from the Western Powers. Never ever.

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They were entrusted. They were too Russian. There were too

731
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many monarchists in it, and as a British used to say,

732
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there are too many anti Semites in it. I think

733
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there was one attempt. I think it was the Nakan,

734
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you know, Dan, a British representative there, said okay, we'll

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support your movement if you purge it of all anti Semites,

736
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so they'd have like three people left.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, you know you're gonna have

739
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to you'll have to have all of the the debts

740
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of the previous RS government when you take over to

741
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start paying that now, uh, you know, designed to be rejected.

742
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They supported the Reds definitely once they were winning, once

743
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they became you know, the truth is when the interventionist

744
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came to try to keep Russia in the war against Germany,

745
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and then after that trying to protect the ammunition stores.

746
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They could have smashed the Petersburg Soviet in two seconds,

747
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and they knew that, they didn't. Trotsky says this, Lenin

748
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,000
says this. The West could have smashed this government in Embryo,

749
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and and they're refused. Now. I don't think they knew

750
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:44,679
a whole lot about what I what Bosvism was. So

751
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,960
you know, Capital didn't care. Capitol was heavily in. Capitol

752
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,760
was starting to invest already in the the new the

753
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,239
new Russia, the new Soviet Union, and the back and

754
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,679
forth between the Jews and both sides of East and

755
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:07,960
the West was already taking place. And of course you

756
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:11,880
have the most the short sighted attempt to kick Russia

757
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,639
out of the war by financing the revolutionaries by the Germans,

758
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you know, the world's most short sighted policy ever. And

759
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then then of course they were exhausted and Germany was

760
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:28,719
just a conduit then from from Jewish loans from New

761
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,679
York and in London. So it was a it was

762
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a complete disaster. And you're seeing the foundations of this here.

763
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You're seeing the foundations of it with with everything we've

764
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been reading about over the last week or so.

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Speaker 1: Well, the next section we have here is looks like

766
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it'll be a little a little longer episode. I think

767
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we have another break like four and a half to

768
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five pages from this, So we'll come back in a

769
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,199
couple of days and get through get through another part

770
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of this section. This is one of the This is

771
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actually one of the longer chapters in the book. So, yeah,

772
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people are gonna have to wait for what they've been

773
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anticipating the whole time.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is part of it. This is the immediate

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predecessor to it.

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Speaker 1: You right, yeah, Well, let's end this. Let's end this here.

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I encourage you to go to the show notes and

778
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to go to the description of the videos and all

779
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,840
the links there for how you can support doctor Johnson's work,

780
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:32,320
and uh, please do that if you haven't done, uh,

781
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,480
you know, if you can't get to Patreon and support him,

782
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:38,920
give him a one timer. And yeah, those of you

783
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,639
who have, you know, are enjoying the bitcoin bubble, the

784
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,599
ride up, throw some bitcoin doctor Johnson's way. He's got

785
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a on his website. I'm almost positive that that your

786
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,880
address there is updated because I gave it to some media.

787
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Speaker 2: You said you received, so that is that is correct?

788
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Speaker 1: All right, Doctor Johnson talks to you in a couple day.

789
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Speaker 2: Is thank you all right, my friend, thank you for everything.

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Come bye,

