Speaker 1: There's a rumor that that's all I got. But obviously
it's called a big hubbub that Sony and Marvel, like hey,
Disney would like to work together to develop a Wolverine
and spider Man movie. Now what you laugh about, Tayone
got the giggles tonight.
Speaker 2: They would like to work together.
Speaker 1: What the fuck is the hangout?
Speaker 2: They know they gotta do to shake hands and make
two billion dollars.
Speaker 1: No, they did not fucking easy.
Speaker 3: That's not that's not how you gonna make two billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Just shake my head because like and because to your point, Taylor,
I think the reason that the hang up would be is,
and we don't know, maybe it would just be Spiderman
five with Spider with Wolverine in it. But the way
this was described, it wasn't as a Okay, we're gonna
do a spider Man movie and it's gonna be oh
comer batches in their Iron Man movie. This was not
spider Man five with Wolverine. There's like a Wolverine inspier
Man movie. But the problem is usually there's like a
seventy thirty split for you know, Sony gets like seventy
percent of the profet Marvel gets thirty. If you were
to have two characters co leading it and it was
a let's say it was a Deadpool, so you just
called like Spider Man and Wolverine. That's where it gets trickier,
where I I know you should think it should be like, oh,
we'll shake handslet's split a fifty. But like remember for
two weeks when they were divorced and they were like, oh,
Spider Man's not gonna be the mc went back like,
it's not as easy as just the handshake. There's a
bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Sony needs to just look at
the fact that their movies fucking blow and Spider Man
blows one movie out of the bunch across the Spider Verse.
Speaker 1: That's I'll give them that.
Speaker 2: I'll give that as those there's some good movies, But
you look at all the rest and them them shoe
horning in there, trying to make their their universe kind
of tie in with the MCU and all that kind
of stuff. It's just it's no blano. So when I
hear and hear this kind of stuff, I just think, Okay,
well you got Sony's very murky trajectory. Track record of
these these MCU spin off movies, and you've got them
trying to do all the marketing for the Spider Man
MCU movies, and the marketing it's just fucking brutal that
the fucking posters are horrible and all that shit like.
Speaker 1: For this even the Tom Holme was you're saying, yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember remember for Far From Home, the marketing and
the posters and all that ship.
Speaker 1: We were talking about it back why they were bad.
Speaker 4: But remember they were bad.
Speaker 1: They're bad. But to their credit though they did market
Knowing Home, which was a massive hit, right, they didn't
even show Toby Andrew wish they could have had anymore.
Speaker 2: But that okay, I'm gonna point out now the big
flaw with that fucking trailer they showed. Remember when you
see like Tom Hollands swinging at the Satue Liberty and
you see the three villains. Yeah, but you guys ever
see that when the lizard's head just fucking magically broke
in the air.
Speaker 3: But like we we we broke that down. I remember,
like Freeze Framen and looking at that.
Speaker 1: We did. But did you think anybody in the general
audience watched that and cared about that.
Speaker 2: Well, I should ask you some Q and a's see
if they if they were analyzing something like.
Speaker 1: That, messing up right now?
Speaker 4: But you remember they had Norman's bomb right in one
of the posters or something, one of the one of.
Speaker 1: The maybe I believe it if you think there was.
I don't specifically remember this bomb. I don't remember it
was the family. Which did Taylor make this poster? Maybe
it's possible. Yeah, so Taylor, do you think is something
you want? And then the second fallow up is I'm
sure that's a yes. What is the combo? Because they
didn't say in the story the scoop of what, like
who would be? They didn't even say it would Hugh
Jackman's Wolverine? Could this be the new Wolverine? And Tom Kareen?
Could this be Calverene and Tom? Could this be Hugh
and Tom? Hugh and Andrew, Hugh and Tolbyen.
Speaker 4: And Andrew is the most cursed combo?
Speaker 1: It really is like both from the universes I got
fucked over, you know, like The Amazing Spider Man and
then Snyder Versese.
Speaker 3: The title of the movie too. They don't mess around you,
and Andrew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Colon Redemption it have to be that will be reviewed.
We're gonna tell you what really happened to Snyder verse.
But yeah, so do you want to see this movie?
What's your angle on it and what is the what's
the combo you want of Wolverine, Spider People, Spider Man slar.
Speaker 2: Yes, I want to see this movie, I think. I mean,
I'm I'm super excited for brand new Dave because we're
getting all these different characters that are popping in there
with him from the MCU. That's super exciting. So the
idea to have more of that sign me up every
day of the week twenty four to seven here in
sixty five days, I'm there. But when you look at
what we could have in terms of a Wolverine, I mean,
I would definitely love to see Hugh Jackman again in
this role obviously because after dead pulling Wolverine, he was
just on fucking fire. He was just yeah, God, he
didn't lose any of that. Like you know, what's the
term when you it's like riding a bike, you know
it's been a while and you hop back on and
it's like just fucking clicks. I mean, it just fucking
clicked for the guy. It was incredible, and yeah, Cavaline,
I'd love to. I think they could. They could bring
in like something like that, but I think that's kind
of more memeable. Now. I'd love to see them just
bring in that unex expected character that no one is anticipating.
Get Daniel Radcliffe back on the horse here those.
Speaker 1: Rooms already said. He said no, so there he said.
Speaker 2: You know you can see that money will change your mind.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're saying they, okay, new MC Wolverine Staniel
Radcliffe great, and you're saying he's the one gets partner
with Tom.
Speaker 2: I think you could. I think they'd have great chemistry.
Speaker 1: Don't forget my m's body. So that's your pitch. You're saying,
they go with the new Wolverine they introduce them, because
that would fit too, because they're gonna introduce Jean Gray supposedly,
we're thinking and Spider Man. So maybe they just use
this to introduce people. So you're pitches to introduce new
Wolverine played by Daniel Radcliffe with Tom.
Speaker 2: Holland that's the one that's the winner there, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Dylan, what what you agree with you? Creo Tator's
assessment of that that parent right there.
Speaker 4: Rarely, rarely do I agree with Taylor. Let's see, I
think I feel like this is gonna be a huge
Jackman thing. I don't think they you know, you know,
this is gonna cost a lot of money for both sides,
and it's gonna be split, it's gonna be weird, it's
gonna be maybe a bit risky. Uh And so I
don't I don't think they're gonna take a risk like.
I don't think Sony in particular would want to take
a rid like. I don't think they would sign the
deal if it was I mean, maybe if it.
Speaker 1: Was Daniel Radcliffe, if they're like if Marvel's pitching them, like, hey,
Danny's coming in, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Daniel Radcliffe. But so yeah, I feel like from Sony's
side of it, it would be a pretty raw deal
for them if if it was not Hugh Jackman. So
if I think this is, if this is happening, I
think it would be with Hugh Jackman. The question is
which which Spidery do you get? And I feel like
Andrew's out of the picture. I don't think they would
consider him for this. I think it would be between
Toby and Tom Hall and Tom Hollan obviously beause he's
just the current guy, but Toby, because that would just
be you know, the early two thousand's wet dream combo.
So I feel like that would be that would be
the one I would see. And I don't know what
the story is for it necessarily, but I think that
would be the dream thing. I know we've we've theorized
that it could be a thing with Secret Wars or
I guess not probably not a doomsday but yeah, secret Wars,
but yeah, maybe maybe it is. Maybe they set it up.
Maybe it's a little one two punch moment. Maybe they
do this movie and then it leads it leads into
Seat Wars. Probably not, I guess, based on timelines and stuff.
And that would be the one that would make the
most sense to me, And that one would also be
the most hype for me as well. I mean, well,
Hugh Jackman in Helm Holland, I'll take that too though.
That would be that would be a good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like also, we didn't get the full movie. They
were only in thor four for a little bit, but
I remember after Avengers in Finny War but then Andygame,
everyone was like, oh, we need that thor Guardians Team
up movie, Right, they never fully went through it, James
Gunn stuff happened, Tyke of stuff happened. They had them
in there for a little bit. But you could have
that where whatever it is. But if the rumor is
it's kind of one of the teams is Toby and He,
that could be the start of it. And then it's okay.
I feel like they probably already know people are gonna
like that, and then it's okay, let's spit this into
it easy. They can make a billion dollars by just
the two of them. They don't even need the rest
of them, you.
Speaker 3: Know, if they're shake hands, Yeah, the.
Speaker 1: Shake hands, you know, make the deal toe. He's gonna
be the lawyer. He's gonna do it all up. But yeah,
I think you could see that is a good reason
for them to be like, oh they really and who knows,
maybe they saw them meet up and there I got
good chemistry. So like, let's do this. What do you up,
web Shadows?
Speaker 2: I want to see that, you know, get get fucking
venom in there with him.
Speaker 1: And then Wolverine gets the symbio on this game. Yeah,
fuck game, Yeah, this game is the symbio takes over
all New York. It was amazing that venom Wolverine. Let's yeah,
I know it says five point three on I gen.
Don't trust an amazing game, past experierment game. Don't trust
ig ever, Kirkland, what you're going with?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is definitely a fun, a fun idea.
I feel like there's so many avenues you could go
about doing something like that, Like it would be live
action right, like we're speaking here. Yes, I would eat
up anything. I would eat up in an animated thing.
I would eat up Wolverine jumping into the Friendly Neighborhood
Spider Man show obviously, you know, such a such a
fun character that could just bounce off of any rendition
of Spider Man. I think the most likely one. Yeah,
it's gonna be Hugh for sure, if they want to.
I agree with Dylan's assessment that like that is the
most appealing for Sony side of it is if they
can get Hugh in there, because he just puts buttons,
He puts single button on. My gosh, I'm tripping over
my tongue here, but yeah, he is the attractive ticket item.
I think Tom Holland would be the most probably likely one,
Like if I had to put money on it, I
would just choose him.
Speaker 1: Because Toby, that'd probably be.
Speaker 3: Like my personal pick of like believability as well as
one that I would personally want, because yeah, it is
like the two thousand nostalgia one, but like even No
Way Home, Like Toby isn't in it that much, right,
Like he is, Yeah, but like that's different than doing
a whole movie, And I feel like Toby isn't one
to sign up for a full like jumping back into
the the tight the I think.
Speaker 1: You will and do you think it's just it just
depends on the zero. I think it's different. I think
Tob we will do whatever if they are bing enough
check yeah, I'll be a full time or Spider Man again,
sure you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like Tom's like I feel like Tom's a
slave to the character in a bit because he loves
Spider Man so much. I feel like he's gonna hold
lot as much as he can. I feel like Toby's
the money guy, and then I feel like Andrew Garfield
is the quality guy because I feel like they had
to coax him back to do that. And the rumor was,
remember they Sony had meetings with him after, and they
pitched him all these ideas to join the Venom Verse
and all this stuff, and Garfield's like, yeah, I don't
really want to do any of that type of stuff.
So I feel that, you know, I feel like Tom
Holman feels like he is the even though he's not
the first Spiderman, he's the first Spierman of the Avengers.
So I feel and I thinek he does actually want
to be there for that Miles handoff as well too,
you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was another thing my mind was kind
of going of, just like the more creative side, you know,
we're getting away from like the more likely picks, but like,
you know, we're getting into secret wars. We we know
some some names and stuff that we could be pulling
from different spidies to pull in there, like the ones
that we've already seen, But like what if they just
actually brought in like a spidy that we haven't seen,
like Ben Riley or something like that just gets thrown
in there with with a Wolverine pairing, whether it's with
Hugh or our new Wolverine casting because he wasn't gonna
do it forever. Again, this is probably far less likely
than than just getting Hugh and a familiar face to
just do Sony and Marvel paarap, But yeah, just thinking
about the possibilities of different rents like that would just
be so cool. Though you get like Hugh Jackman's Wolverine,
he sees Spidey, you expect you to be like, I
don't know, Tom Holland takes off the mask, it's like
a blonde dude.
Speaker 1: It's like it's still gonna because he's a CLONEU Peter Parker, right,
So you could just have.
Speaker 3: Tom blonde Tom Holland. It's hard for me to picture,
but you could. Absolutely that'd be oh man, that'd be
so sick. Like again, even if it's super minor, but
again creative. Highly unlikely to happen, but.
Speaker 1: I hope we get the pones at some point so
we can get blonde Tom home. There's a soccer ad
out there, so you can find him blonde if you
put him blonde. He did one this year and the
whole internet was like, it's been fucking Riley look at
him and stuff. So yeah, I think it's probably Hugh.
We haven't talked about. It's I covered on a trest
told you once there was like a lower Sea tier rumor,
but still was to rumor that the ideas for the
reset they want to do which comics have done. They
want to have two logans in the MCU, so they
want to have the young logan that's gonna be the
X Men, and they want to have like old They're
going to the Wolverine. And then they want old man
logan so you can still be around and do this stuff.
They have done that in the comics, So there is
preston I think that is. I don't know as an actor,
I don't know how much I would love to be
the young Wolverine at the other guy still just sticking around,
because it just feels like at any point, if people
don't like you, it's like, yeah, we'll just swap you
out for this Avenger. True, yeah, yeah, if you if
you're just like fully that wise and it's completely fun.
But if there's anyone, like if you're like a Tom
Holland and it was like magic, well, Toby's gonna be
back permanently now, and you know, like you're still around,
You're on the Avengers, but like we're doing the solo
movies with Tom or with told me now so, but yeah,
I think it would just be Hugh and I don't
know which way I could go because like in my
perfect world, I feel like i'd rather Tom keep doing
stuff with the street people, so more of Punisher. I
want me to full move with Daredevil, get him with Kingpin.
So I it actually would be down for just very
much like dead Pool and Wolverine, where it's tobeying Wolverine.
It's Tobey and you and let's say they saim I
had a rivalry and secret wars. They're back together and
it's like, fuck, we gotta work together. This sucks and
it's a good buddy thing, right because I think my
worry is too like what can Tom learn from Wolverine,
like Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, right, Like I don't want to
be like another older male that's like, oh, like you know,
I just have so much rage. I don't know what
to do with it, logan like I don't need that
from Tom Holland anymore. Like I don't think Punisher is
gonna be that clearly. I think he's gonna be like
more of an adversarial and then a Hulk I think
is gonna turn in the Hulks, so they're gonna fight him, right,
So I don't see the comber bat your Iron Man
roll where it's like older seniors like bestowing wisdom. So
I don't think I really want that dynamic. I guess
you can have a fun dynamic, but I think i'd
rather have Tom with the street level characters or Tom
with the new Wolverine. It's like, Okay, whoever they cast,
this is them together. This is the new class, right.
So I'd rather Hugh and Toby, and then i'd rather
if they did Garfield. I want him and Ryan Reynolds.
They got good chemistry. There's a time they kiss at
the Oscars. They could really play up the Deadpool. It's
like a crush on Spider Man with Garfield. I think
Garfield would be like perfect for the like that dead
out of all the Spider Man if he was like
who could you put a Deadpool movie? I think Garfield's
the best fit, like comedy wise, Tom, like, I think
he's good, but I just don't think he's like the
perfect comedy I think Toby. I think Toby just just
toy in a dead Like we'll see if tow me
in a Deadpool movie. There's just something where it's like
I don't know if this is gonna go like perfectly,
you know, like I don't know if he's gonna play
in the joke a couple of scenes. Yeah, but like
if it's like Deadpool Mogan, it's like no. And that's
why I think Garfield, you know, he would kill in
a Deadpool movie. He'd be fantastic. So yeah, I'm kind
of hoping if it's Hugh, that it is Toby and
we just get like and just making a one off,
just make it like, yeah, there's a again, a multiverse
world travel one or maybe this is the movie we
finally go into Toby's universe. Maybe we don't get that
in Doomsday and Secret Wars, but we Logan ends up
there and we get to see Kirsten Dunce and we
get to see Becaus can't see Gams Franco, but like
other people that were in that universe and then what
they've been up to, you know, because I don't think
we need to really go back to the Fox X
Men universe. Yeah maybe well he's like, oh, I know
where you can stay Logan, and Logan's staying Dakovich, you know,
like I don't think there's any because they're bringing all
the X Men back for dooms what.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just saying that's good. I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he getting up with Ursa Law. He's like, oh,
you're my perfect woman. I like those nut cookies. But like,
I think the thing for me is like with them
bringing back all the X Men for Doomsday, I don't
think we also need to go back to Fox X
Men again. You know, like we did that Wolverine, we're
doing that again now. So it's the reverse where Toby
just ends up there. It's like like we've been here
a lot where Toby's universe. I still surprised we got
very like we just okay, him and m j R. Together,
that's all we got, not even that they're married or
have kids, Like we had no updates whatsoever. I guess
the rumor was Toby to be purposely vagued about that
because you know, again he sees the money on the
fucking wall. I'm telling you, he's like, yeah, don't don't
share anything. We want people to want that. So yeah,
that's my theory and that's what I'd want, so and
I'm down for like sure, that's I'm fine with you
doing it till he's till he's a ninety. Like the
joke is, you know so