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Speaker 1: There's a rumor that that's all I got. But obviously

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it's called a big hubbub that Sony and Marvel, like hey,

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Disney would like to work together to develop a Wolverine

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and spider Man movie. Now what you laugh about, Tayone

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got the giggles tonight.

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Speaker 2: They would like to work together.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck is the hangout?

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Speaker 2: They know they gotta do to shake hands and make

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two billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: No, they did not fucking easy.

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Speaker 3: That's not that's not how you gonna make two billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Just shake my head because like and because to your point, Taylor,

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I think the reason that the hang up would be is,

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and we don't know, maybe it would just be Spiderman

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five with Spider with Wolverine in it. But the way

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this was described, it wasn't as a Okay, we're gonna

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do a spider Man movie and it's gonna be oh

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comer batches in their Iron Man movie. This was not

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spider Man five with Wolverine. There's like a Wolverine inspier

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Man movie. But the problem is usually there's like a

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seventy thirty split for you know, Sony gets like seventy

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percent of the profet Marvel gets thirty. If you were

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to have two characters co leading it and it was

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a let's say it was a Deadpool, so you just

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called like Spider Man and Wolverine. That's where it gets trickier,

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where I I know you should think it should be like, oh,

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we'll shake handslet's split a fifty. But like remember for

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two weeks when they were divorced and they were like, oh,

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Spider Man's not gonna be the mc went back like,

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it's not as easy as just the handshake. There's a

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bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Sony needs to just look at

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the fact that their movies fucking blow and Spider Man

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blows one movie out of the bunch across the Spider Verse.

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Speaker 1: That's I'll give them that.

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Speaker 2: I'll give that as those there's some good movies, But

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you look at all the rest and them them shoe

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horning in there, trying to make their their universe kind

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of tie in with the MCU and all that kind

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of stuff. It's just it's no blano. So when I

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hear and hear this kind of stuff, I just think, Okay,

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well you got Sony's very murky trajectory. Track record of

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these these MCU spin off movies, and you've got them

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trying to do all the marketing for the Spider Man

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MCU movies, and the marketing it's just fucking brutal that

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the fucking posters are horrible and all that shit like.

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Speaker 1: For this even the Tom Holme was you're saying, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember remember for Far From Home, the marketing and

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the posters and all that ship.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about it back why they were bad.

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Speaker 4: But remember they were bad.

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Speaker 1: They're bad. But to their credit though they did market

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Knowing Home, which was a massive hit, right, they didn't

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even show Toby Andrew wish they could have had anymore.

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Speaker 2: But that okay, I'm gonna point out now the big

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flaw with that fucking trailer they showed. Remember when you

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see like Tom Hollands swinging at the Satue Liberty and

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you see the three villains. Yeah, but you guys ever

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see that when the lizard's head just fucking magically broke

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in the air.

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Speaker 3: But like we we we broke that down. I remember,

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like Freeze Framen and looking at that.

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Speaker 1: We did. But did you think anybody in the general

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audience watched that and cared about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I should ask you some Q and a's see

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if they if they were analyzing something like.

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Speaker 1: That, messing up right now?

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Speaker 4: But you remember they had Norman's bomb right in one

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of the posters or something, one of the one of.

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Speaker 1: The maybe I believe it if you think there was.

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I don't specifically remember this bomb. I don't remember it

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was the family. Which did Taylor make this poster? Maybe

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it's possible. Yeah, so Taylor, do you think is something

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you want? And then the second fallow up is I'm

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sure that's a yes. What is the combo? Because they

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didn't say in the story the scoop of what, like

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who would be? They didn't even say it would Hugh

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Jackman's Wolverine? Could this be the new Wolverine? And Tom Kareen?

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and Tom? Hugh and Andrew, Hugh and Tolbyen.

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Speaker 4: And Andrew is the most cursed combo?

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Speaker 1: It really is like both from the universes I got

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fucked over, you know, like The Amazing Spider Man and

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then Snyder Versese.

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Speaker 3: The title of the movie too. They don't mess around you,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Colon Redemption it have to be that will be reviewed.

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But yeah, so do you want to see this movie?

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the combo you want of Wolverine, Spider People, Spider Man slar.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I want to see this movie, I think. I mean,

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getting all these different characters that are popping in there

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with him from the MCU. That's super exciting. So the

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idea to have more of that sign me up every

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day of the week twenty four to seven here in

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sixty five days, I'm there. But when you look at

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this role obviously because after dead pulling Wolverine, he was

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just on fucking fire. He was just yeah, God, he

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didn't lose any of that. Like you know, what's the

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term when you it's like riding a bike, you know

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it's been a while and you hop back on and

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it's like just fucking clicks. I mean, it just fucking

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clicked for the guy. It was incredible, and yeah, Cavaline,

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of more memeable. Now. I'd love to see them just

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bring in that unex expected character that no one is anticipating.

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Speaker 1: Rooms already said. He said no, so there he said.

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Speaker 2: You know you can see that money will change your mind.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're saying they, okay, new MC Wolverine Staniel

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Radcliffe great, and you're saying he's the one gets partner

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Speaker 2: I think you could. I think they'd have great chemistry.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget my m's body. So that's your pitch. You're saying,

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they go with the new Wolverine they introduce them, because

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that would fit too, because they're gonna introduce Jean Gray supposedly,

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we're thinking and Spider Man. So maybe they just use

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this to introduce people. So you're pitches to introduce new

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Wolverine played by Daniel Radcliffe with Tom.

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Speaker 2: Holland that's the one that's the winner there, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Dylan, what what you agree with you? Creo Tator's

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assessment of that that parent right there.

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Speaker 4: Rarely, rarely do I agree with Taylor. Let's see, I

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deal if it was I mean, maybe if it.

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Speaker 1: Was Daniel Radcliffe, if they're like if Marvel's pitching them, like, hey,

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side of it, it would be a pretty raw deal

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think it would be with Hugh Jackman. The question is

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which which Spidery do you get? And I feel like

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Toby and Tom Hall and Tom Hollan obviously beause he's

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the story is for it necessarily, but I think that

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but yeah, maybe maybe it is. Maybe they set it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like also, we didn't get the full movie. They

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it easy. They can make a billion dollars by just

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the two of them. They don't even need the rest

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Speaker 3: Know, if they're shake hands, Yeah, the.

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Speaker 1: Shake hands, you know, make the deal toe. He's gonna

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good chemistry. So like, let's do this. What do you up,

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Speaker 2: I want to see that, you know, get get fucking

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venom in there with him.

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Speaker 1: And then Wolverine gets the symbio on this game. Yeah,

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fuck game, Yeah, this game is the symbio takes over

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all New York. It was amazing that venom Wolverine. Let's yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is definitely a fun, a fun idea.

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Spider Man show obviously, you know, such a such a

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fun character that could just bounce off of any rendition

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of Spider Man. I think the most likely one. Yeah,

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it's gonna be Hugh for sure, if they want to.

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most appealing for Sony side of it is if they

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can get Hugh in there, because he just puts buttons,

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my tongue here, but yeah, he is the attractive ticket item.

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I think Tom Holland would be the most probably likely one,

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Speaker 1: Because Toby, that'd probably be.

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Speaker 3: Like my personal pick of like believability as well as

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one that I would personally want, because yeah, it is

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like the two thousand nostalgia one, but like even No

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a whole movie, And I feel like Toby isn't one

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to sign up for a full like jumping back into

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the the tight the I think.

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Speaker 1: You will and do you think it's just it just

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is the quality guy because I feel like they had

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to coax him back to do that. And the rumor was,

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remember they Sony had meetings with him after, and they

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pitched him all these ideas to join the Venom Verse

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and all this stuff, and Garfield's like, yeah, I don't

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really want to do any of that type of stuff.

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So I feel that, you know, I feel like Tom

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the first Spiderman, he's the first Spierman of the Avengers.

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to be there for that Miles handoff as well too,

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you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was another thing my mind was kind

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of going of, just like the more creative side, you know,

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we're getting away from like the more likely picks, but like,

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you know, we're getting into secret wars. We we know

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some some names and stuff that we could be pulling

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from different spidies to pull in there, like the ones

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that we've already seen, But like what if they just

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actually brought in like a spidy that we haven't seen,

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like Ben Riley or something like that just gets thrown

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in there with with a Wolverine pairing, whether it's with

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Hugh or our new Wolverine casting because he wasn't gonna

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do it forever. Again, this is probably far less likely

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than than just getting Hugh and a familiar face to

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just do Sony and Marvel paarap, But yeah, just thinking

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about the possibilities of different rents like that would just

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be so cool. Though you get like Hugh Jackman's Wolverine,

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he sees Spidey, you expect you to be like, I

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don't know, Tom Holland takes off the mask, it's like

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a blonde dude.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's still gonna because he's a CLONEU Peter Parker, right,

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Speaker 3: Tom blonde Tom Holland. It's hard for me to picture,

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but you could. Absolutely that'd be oh man, that'd be

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so sick. Like again, even if it's super minor, but

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again creative. Highly unlikely to happen, but.

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we can get blonde Tom home. There's a soccer ad

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out there, so you can find him blonde if you

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put him blonde. He did one this year and the

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whole internet was like, it's been fucking Riley look at

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him and stuff. So yeah, I think it's probably Hugh.

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told you once there was like a lower Sea tier rumor,

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but still was to rumor that the ideas for the

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reset they want to do which comics have done. They

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want to have two logans in the MCU, so they

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want to have the young logan that's gonna be the

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X Men, and they want to have like old They're

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going to the Wolverine. And then they want old man

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logan so you can still be around and do this stuff.

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preston I think that is. I don't know as an actor,

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the young Wolverine at the other guy still just sticking around,

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because it just feels like at any point, if people

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don't like you, it's like, yeah, we'll just swap you

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out for this Avenger. True, yeah, yeah, if you if

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you're just like fully that wise and it's completely fun.

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But if there's anyone, like if you're like a Tom

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Holland and it was like magic, well, Toby's gonna be

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back permanently now, and you know, like you're still around,

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movies with Tom or with told me now so, but yeah,

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I think it would just be Hugh and I don't

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know which way I could go because like in my

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perfect world, I feel like i'd rather Tom keep doing

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stuff with the street people, so more of Punisher. I

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want me to full move with Daredevil, get him with Kingpin.

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much like dead Pool and Wolverine, where it's tobeying Wolverine.

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It's Tobey and you and let's say they saim I

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had a rivalry and secret wars. They're back together and

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it's like, fuck, we gotta work together. This sucks and

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it's a good buddy thing, right because I think my

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worry is too like what can Tom learn from Wolverine,

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like Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, right, Like I don't want to

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be like another older male that's like, oh, like you know,

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I just have so much rage. I don't know what

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to do with it, logan like I don't need that

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from Tom Holland anymore. Like I don't think Punisher is

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gonna be that clearly. I think he's gonna be like

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more of an adversarial and then a Hulk I think

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is gonna turn in the Hulks, so they're gonna fight him, right,

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roll where it's like older seniors like bestowing wisdom. So

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I don't think I really want that dynamic. I guess

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you can have a fun dynamic, but I think i'd

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rather have Tom with the street level characters or Tom

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with the new Wolverine. It's like, Okay, whoever they cast,

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this is them together. This is the new class, right.

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So I'd rather Hugh and Toby, and then i'd rather

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if they did Garfield. I want him and Ryan Reynolds.

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the Oscars. They could really play up the Deadpool. It's

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like a crush on Spider Man with Garfield. I think

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Garfield would be like perfect for the like that dead

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out of all the Spider Man if he was like

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who could you put a Deadpool movie? I think Garfield's

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the best fit, like comedy wise, Tom, like, I think

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he's good, but I just don't think he's like the

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perfect comedy I think Toby. I think Toby just just

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toy in a dead Like we'll see if tow me

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in a Deadpool movie. There's just something where it's like

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you know, like I don't know if he's gonna play

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in the joke a couple of scenes. Yeah, but like

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if it's like Deadpool Mogan, it's like no. And that's

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why I think Garfield, you know, he would kill in

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a Deadpool movie. He'd be fantastic. So yeah, I'm kind

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of hoping if it's Hugh, that it is Toby and

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we just get like and just making a one off,

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just make it like, yeah, there's a again, a multiverse

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world travel one or maybe this is the movie we

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finally go into Toby's universe. Maybe we don't get that

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in Doomsday and Secret Wars, but we Logan ends up

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there and we get to see Kirsten Dunce and we

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get to see Becaus can't see Gams Franco, but like

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other people that were in that universe and then what

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they've been up to, you know, because I don't think

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we need to really go back to the Fox X

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Men universe. Yeah maybe well he's like, oh, I know

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where you can stay Logan, and Logan's staying Dakovich, you know,

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like I don't think there's any because they're bringing all

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the X Men back for dooms what.

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you're my perfect woman. I like those nut cookies. But like,

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I think the thing for me is like with them

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bringing back all the X Men for Doomsday, I don't

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Men again. You know, like we did that Wolverine, we're

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doing that again now. So it's the reverse where Toby

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just ends up there. It's like like we've been here

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a lot where Toby's universe. I still surprised we got

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very like we just okay, him and m j R. Together,

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that's all we got, not even that they're married or

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have kids, Like we had no updates whatsoever. I guess

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the rumor was Toby to be purposely vagued about that

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because you know, again he sees the money on the

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fucking wall. I'm telling you, he's like, yeah, don't don't

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share anything. We want people to want that. So yeah,

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doing it till he's till he's a ninety. Like the

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joke is, you know so