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Speaker 2: and we want to start off with a major announcement
Speaker 2: on this radio show. Oh my god. You know, after
Speaker 2: twenty nine years of nationwide syndicated radio, in this radio
Speaker 2: show that I have been hosting for twenty nine plus years,
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, you know, when is it gonna happen?
Speaker 2: When is it going to be the day that this
Speaker 2: thing gets so big, so large ass that I need help?
Speaker 2: Well that day has come, and I'm here to announce
Speaker 2: that we have a special guest slash co host joining
Speaker 2: us right now. His name is doctor Adam Brockman, and
Speaker 2: doctor Adam Brockman let me give you a little bit
Speaker 2: of his background, and believe me, this is the cropped
Speaker 2: down version of it. He has got a CV that
Speaker 2: is absolutely amazing. It suck up a lot of showtime here,
Speaker 2: but we'll give you the nuts and bolts of his background,
Speaker 2: and over the next months and hopefully years, you'll learn
Speaker 2: learn more about this individual and why he was selected
Speaker 2: to from this point forward co host this radio show.
Speaker 2: Doctor Brockman's undergraduate education started about twenty five plus years
Speaker 2: ago and included earning a Bachelor of Science degree from
Speaker 2: the University of Louisville. Doctor Brockman went on to earn
Speaker 2: two doctorates count two, one as a chiropractic physician and
Speaker 2: the second doctorate as a nature pathic physician. Doctor Brockman's
Speaker 2: training and clinical nutrition is extensive. He has personally cared
Speaker 2: for thousands and thousands of patients over his seventeen year
Speaker 2: career as a practicing physician, including treating professional athletes in
Speaker 2: the NBA, the m LB, and the NFL all of those.
Speaker 2: So with that, let me welcome doctor Adam Brockman to
Speaker 2: the program today. Good day to you, Doctor Brockman.
Speaker 3: Hello Doctor Bob, and thank you for having me on
Speaker 3: your show today. Is an absolute pleasure and honor to
Speaker 3: be here and have the opportunity to discuss relevant health
Speaker 3: topics with you. Is somebody that I look up up
Speaker 3: to as a as a mentor.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that I took. It was a
Speaker 2: long and hard consideration for me not to get help
Speaker 2: because I've needed help on this radio show. Because this
Speaker 2: radio show is growing by leaps and bounds all the time,
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Speaker 2: in the United States. I mean, this show is just growing,
Speaker 2: in large part, Doctor Brockman, thanks to our audience. The
Speaker 2: audience of this radio show continues to tell people about
Speaker 2: the show. Listeners are telling their family members, their friends,
Speaker 2: or coworkers or neighbors, and as a result of that,
Speaker 2: the message is getting out. And in this day and
Speaker 2: age when our health in the United States is in
Speaker 2: complete turmoil and circling the drain, as we say, the
Speaker 2: health of our nation, we need help. We need we
Speaker 2: need young people to step up and help educate people
Speaker 2: as to how to stay healthy in the first place
Speaker 2: and not wait to break down, not fix it when
Speaker 2: it's broken, sort of an attitude which is what the
Speaker 2: American sick care system has revolved into. I mean, no
Speaker 2: doubt there is emergency medicine nine to one to one
Speaker 2: ambulances and all the fine things that dedicated doctors do
Speaker 2: to save lives is absolutely amazing. But I think we
Speaker 2: need to focus on and I know that you agree
Speaker 2: with this, we need to focus on keeping people well
Speaker 2: and not getting into the crisis that they get into
Speaker 2: trying to hail Mary, you know, bring Santa claus On
Speaker 2: at the end. If we're bad boys and girls to
Speaker 2: our bodies. Would you agree with that, Doctor.
Speaker 3: Brockman, Absolutely, we need to focus on natural health, and
Speaker 3: the term alternative does not fit this. This should be
Speaker 3: mainstream and now as good a time as any to
Speaker 3: make that happen.
Speaker 2: I look at conventional medicine as the alternative medicine because
Speaker 2: it certainly is the youngest of the medicines. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you look at traditional Chinese medicine, it's over two
Speaker 2: thousand years old. When you look at iravetic medicine thousands
Speaker 2: of years old. When you look at remedies, at our
Speaker 2: grandmothers and great grandfathers practiced and utilized to improve their
Speaker 2: quality of life and to help them. I mean, the
Speaker 2: way that we roll today with pharmaceutical drugs is certainly
Speaker 2: relevant and can be life saving. But it can also
Speaker 2: take your life too. It's risky to go into a hospital.
Speaker 2: We know that you can get saved, have your life
Speaker 2: saved there, but you can also die there of a
Speaker 2: condition you didn't have when you went through the door.
Speaker 2: So I think the more educated people become, the more
Speaker 2: self reliant they become. And that's what this show is
Speaker 2: dedicated to. As you well know, being your own best
Speaker 2: doctor most of the time, and in order to get
Speaker 2: to that, you need to educate people. You need to
Speaker 2: tell them how to get to that space and not
Speaker 2: just expect them to do it on their own. And
Speaker 2: that's I hope a part of what we do here
Speaker 2: on this show and others like it, so that the
Speaker 2: public can benefit their most precious possession, that of course,
Speaker 2: that being their health. All right, enough set about that.
Speaker 2: The topic we're going to discuss today and right out
Speaker 2: of the gate is the exciting news about the astronauts
Speaker 2: that recently were returned to the Earth who had been
Speaker 2: stranded in outer space. Oh my gosh, I don't know
Speaker 2: about you, ladies and gentlemen, but I aspired, like a
Speaker 2: lot of others, to be an astronaut when I was
Speaker 2: growing up. In fact, the Apollo eleven mission that landed
Speaker 2: on the Moon in nineteen sixty nine. I think it
Speaker 2: was like fourteen or fifteen years of age. That really
Speaker 2: caught my attention, and as it did a lot of people,
Speaker 2: and I thought, geez, wouldn't it be so cool to
Speaker 2: go up in outer space and see those things and
Speaker 2: experience those things. So of course, I from that point
Speaker 2: fixated on it and had a lot of aspirations in
Speaker 2: that regard. It never worked out, but I still think
Speaker 2: about it. And yet when you see these pictures that
Speaker 2: were recently released, photographs depicting the you know that just
Speaker 2: came back from outer space with the physical effects of
Speaker 2: their bodies. Man, oh man, that got my attention in
Speaker 2: a big way. And I'm thinking to myself, WHOA. I
Speaker 2: wonder what astronauts are paid. I don't know if anybody
Speaker 2: could pay me enough to take that kind of risk today,
Speaker 2: knowing what the risks are both to I mean, you
Speaker 2: could die easily and your physical health going forward being
Speaker 2: in outer space. And doctor Brockman, I looked this up here.
Speaker 2: It is the average salary for an astronaut, and I'm
Speaker 2: talking about seasoned astronaut is between one hundred and four
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and one hundred and sixty one thousand dollars
Speaker 2: per year to go up in space and take that
Speaker 2: kind of risk and do that kind of ravage to
Speaker 2: your body, which we're going to be talking about here shortly.
Speaker 2: And then I looked up the average salary for a
Speaker 2: National Basketball Association a player, an NBA player in the
Speaker 2: in the NBA basketball player twelve million dollars per year
Speaker 2: average salary. I'm saying myself, what's wrong with this picture?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Okay, Well, so we we have a
Speaker 2: break to take here, Doctor Brockmann. When we come back,
Speaker 2: I want to get into this idea of aeronautic medicine
Speaker 2: and aeronautic healthcare and what astronauts go through and why
Speaker 2: is it that you know they end up with the
Speaker 2: type of maladies and infirmities, and when you consider that
Speaker 2: we're looking at trips to Mars in the not too
Speaker 2: distant future. According to Elon Musk and others, it's an
Speaker 2: important topic to discuss because I know a lot of
Speaker 2: people want to go to outer space. So we'll have
Speaker 2: some of that information when we come back. So stick around.
Speaker 2: You're tuned into the doctor Bob Martin Show. I must
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Speaker 2: Will, all right, Doctor Bob Martin, back with you. Also
Speaker 2: with our special co host with us as well, Doctor
Speaker 2: Adam Brockman is joining me today and from this point
Speaker 2: forward will be assisting me in this radio show. So
Speaker 2: glad to have him. I've needed help for years. Finally
Speaker 2: found somebody who is qualified and completely equipped to do
Speaker 2: just that, and I am excited about it. Doctor Brockman,
Speaker 2: thank you for being here and welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2: I want you. I want to get into some of
Speaker 2: the issues and concerns that astronauts face when they go
Speaker 2: into out of space, because I know a lot of
Speaker 2: people are thinking, well, gosh, if I save up enough money,
Speaker 2: because I've heard that you can get a ride to
Speaker 2: the space station for about a million dollars. I know
Speaker 2: that Putin sold one from Russia, and I think in
Speaker 2: the future, this is what's going to happen, and some
Speaker 2: of the people listening right now, their children or their
Speaker 2: grandchildren may actually travel into space on a journey to
Speaker 2: distances that we don't know about right now, planets, maybe Mars.
Speaker 2: So I thought, let's talk about the risks and the
Speaker 2: effects of outer space on our astronauts. Let's do that,
Speaker 2: and I want to zero in on micro gravity. What happens.
Speaker 2: You know this Sanita Williams and Butch Wilmore, the ones
Speaker 2: who were stranded on the space station for hundreds of
Speaker 2: days and finally got back home thanks to Elon Musk
Speaker 2: and the Trump administration. We're so glad that they are
Speaker 2: safe and back home. But when when I saw a picture,
Speaker 2: doctor Brockman, of Cinita Williams side by side when she
Speaker 2: began her journey to the space station, and then when
Speaker 2: they took the picture of her stepping out of the
Speaker 2: space capsule when she returned to Earth. Seriously, it looked
Speaker 2: like she had aged about maybe fifty years. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was scary to me. Did you get the same impression, Brockman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did. She looked like she was very
Speaker 3: ill coming off of the spaceship. And you know, talking
Speaker 3: about aeronautical medicine, doctor Bob, I find this topic just
Speaker 3: as fascinating as you, and I'm certain that any of
Speaker 3: the listeners find it just as interesting. I do want
Speaker 3: to make several observations before we dig into this article
Speaker 3: about aeronautical medicine. Many of us, like you said yourself myself,
Speaker 3: during our childhood, have aspired to venture into space or
Speaker 3: pursue a career as astronauts, and we were all well
Speaker 3: aware of the inherent risk associated with space travel, such
Speaker 3: as being propelled through the atmosphere and then dropping back
Speaker 3: through the atmosphere, splashing down an Atlantic Ocean, you know,
Speaker 3: to be rescued by the NASA crew. However, it was
Speaker 3: not until these recent release of these photographs of the
Speaker 3: astronauts that were stranded that we fully grasp the physical
Speaker 3: risk that space travel posts our bodies and health. What
Speaker 3: you said, with the originally intended as basically about an
Speaker 3: eight to ten day mission extended over two hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty days, and so one can only imagine the psychological
Speaker 3: toll this must have had on these astronauts.
Speaker 2: You know, over the years, I've read stories about the
Speaker 2: physical challenges that astronauts have going into space and what
Speaker 2: happens to their bodies, and I want to discuss that
Speaker 2: because there are people who are thinking, hey, you jump
Speaker 2: in the capsule, you come out you're good to go.
Speaker 2: Not so much, Ladies and John when you look in
Speaker 2: and you see what's happening. Because, as doctor Rockman just
Speaker 2: pointed out, when Miss Williams came back, I mean she
Speaker 2: would she have an IV. They immediately put an IV
Speaker 2: in her arm to get her fluids rehydrate her. Because
Speaker 2: that's I think that's an automatic when you're in space,
Speaker 2: that that's going to happen. But there are all kinds
Speaker 2: of other issues, you know, especially related to the muscular
Speaker 2: little skeletal system that happen two astronauts, and I want
Speaker 2: to discuss that a little bit. The effects of microgravity.
Speaker 2: We hear that, you know, when you're in space, you
Speaker 2: actually get taller. I don't know. I thought it was
Speaker 2: like an inch taller, maybe an inch and a half taller.
Speaker 2: And then when you yeah and maybe yeah, maybe even greater,
Speaker 2: and then when you come back, everything compresses back down
Speaker 2: and then suddenly you're feeling like not so good. And
Speaker 2: it's my understanding, Doctor Brockman, that many of the astronauts,
Speaker 2: I don't know what percentage it is, maybe you know this,
Speaker 2: suffer from spinal paint, like lower back pain and disk
Speaker 2: problems and they have pain radiating down, you know, into
Speaker 2: their arms and their legs, which is extremely painful due
Speaker 2: to the disruption of their spinal biomechanics, you know, compared
Speaker 2: to when you have no gravity and you have full
Speaker 2: gravity once you re enter the Earth. So I want
Speaker 2: people to know my personal opinion of that is that one,
Speaker 2: why is it that only a percentage of astronauts developed
Speaker 2: these problems? And what can we learn from that to
Speaker 2: provide for them going forward so that they don't come
Speaker 2: back with those kinds of structural problems which seem to
Speaker 2: be probably the easier things to correct. What is your
Speaker 2: opinion of that, doctor problem.
Speaker 3: Well, if we're just talking about the spinal related pain,
Speaker 3: back pain, it's nearly eighty percent of astronauts experience that
Speaker 3: whether they're on the mission and then when they come
Speaker 3: back to Earth, it's nearly a third of them thirty
Speaker 3: some percent that have chronic back related issues.
Speaker 2: That eighty percent sounds like the population of the United
Speaker 2: States at one time, well, eight out of ten people
Speaker 2: will have a lower back problem at one period of time.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying then, is that not all astronauts
Speaker 2: come back in pain in their spine, in their backs,
Speaker 2: in their discs with their nerves only a percentage due.
Speaker 2: Is that what I hear you saying?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And it does some of the mimics the natural
Speaker 3: aging process that we experience with elderly on Earth, which
Speaker 3: I'd like to get into it at some point today
Speaker 3: if we have time. But I think a lot of
Speaker 3: it has to do with the astronaut's core strength before
Speaker 3: they go on the mission, which is often ignored by NASA.
Speaker 3: They have very health related you know, exams and questions
Speaker 3: that lead up to this, dealing with eyesight and mental ability,
Speaker 3: but they do not look at the structure. And I
Speaker 3: think that's something that maybe need to be researched further
Speaker 3: or looked at.
Speaker 2: I would agree with you. If you have a certain
Speaker 2: percentage of astronauts coming back and they're in a lot
Speaker 2: of distress, a lot of pain with their backs, and
Speaker 2: there's another percentage that are not, you have to figure
Speaker 2: and my mind goes to pre existing condition right away.
Speaker 2: Why is it that a certain percentage of them are
Speaker 2: not impacted with back pain, with nerve pain, with disc
Speaker 2: herniations and other problems when a certain percentage are And
Speaker 2: my training tells me that those astronauts that are having problems.
Speaker 2: We're in a distress before they got into the capsule
Speaker 2: to take off, and they weren't afforded or were not
Speaker 2: provided spinal care by a competent, qualified, licensed chiropractic physician
Speaker 2: before they climbed into the space capsule. So they went
Speaker 2: in to the program not being carried for fully and
Speaker 2: came back a lot worse, which means that their condition
Speaker 2: was simply exacerbated. It wasn't probably created in space, but
Speaker 2: rather brought to a head in space because of the
Speaker 2: stretching and the elongation that micro gravity has on a spine.
Speaker 2: And of course it's always going to impact the area
Speaker 2: that is the weakest. You're only as strong as your
Speaker 2: weakest link. And if you've got back problems prior to
Speaker 2: doing a space trip, you're going to have back problems
Speaker 2: when you come back, and they're going to be escalating.
Speaker 2: And that's why I think the NASA program needs to
Speaker 2: include a proper evaluation by a chiropractic physician on all astronauts.
Speaker 2: They deserve it, they need it, and we should provide it.
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna come right back. Stay with us,
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Speaker 2: my co host, doctor Adam Brockman, and we're talking about
Speaker 2: aeronautic medicine, what happens to astronauts their health. And obviously
Speaker 2: astronauts have to be in tip top shape based on
Speaker 2: a medical evaluation. Their eyesight has to be even better
Speaker 2: than twenty twenty. Like all pilots, they have to have
Speaker 2: physical strength. They have to be able to You've seen
Speaker 2: these demonstrate on television where they where they whirl them
Speaker 2: around over and over. They have to be able to
Speaker 2: recover from that. They can't get dizzy in their head
Speaker 2: and lose their ability to function inside space. So we're
Speaker 2: talking about that with doctor Adam Brockman and some of
Speaker 2: the challenges that we have because I dare say that
Speaker 2: some people aspire to go into space that are listening
Speaker 2: to the son of my voice right now, and you
Speaker 2: may have children or grandchildren who do just that. Maybe
Speaker 2: they are going to embark upon a mission to Mars,
Speaker 2: somebody in your family. It may happen. And knowing a
Speaker 2: little bit more about outer space and the impact of
Speaker 2: microgravity in the human body, I think is good for
Speaker 2: everybody to know, to better understand it, to appreciate what
Speaker 2: astronauts who get paid a buck and a half a
Speaker 2: year compared to eleven million dollars with the average NBA player.
Speaker 2: To me, there's something wrong with this picture. Do you
Speaker 2: agree with that, Doctor Brockman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and I think you hit it. With human
Speaker 3: missions to Mars are projected to commit somewhere around twenty thirty,
Speaker 3: with a duration of these mission missions being span of
Speaker 3: two and a half years or more.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, In the prospect of space travel become accessible to
Speaker 3: the general population, it's coming and perhaps sooner than anticipated.
Speaker 2: Exactly a lot of these rich moguls are now buying
Speaker 2: their way into outer space. That's how it all got
Speaker 2: started with lay people going up that needed to They
Speaker 2: had to have just a minimal amount of preparatory activity
Speaker 2: before they allowed them to do this. So it's all
Speaker 2: about the dollar right now. But obviously we're going to
Speaker 2: expand into space. It's what we do as beings. As
Speaker 2: humans were interested in it, but we need to know
Speaker 2: what we're getting into. I think the average person does
Speaker 2: not know. That's why I wanted to discuss this topic.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating to you, doctor Brockman, and myself, and I
Speaker 2: think a lot of other audience members are also interested
Speaker 2: in learning more about it. Let me ask you this question,
Speaker 2: how do give us an overview of how astronauts maintain
Speaker 2: their physical health while they're in space. They're in this tiny,
Speaker 2: little micronized capsule which seems so small. When I looked
Speaker 2: at that capsule that landed in the Atlantic the other day,
Speaker 2: and I was thinking to myself, Okay, well that was
Speaker 2: the capsule that came back in. They were on the
Speaker 2: space station and they're you know, they're floating through that
Speaker 2: and you see the hair flowing up and so forth.
Speaker 2: But how to astronauts astronauts maintain their physical health while
Speaker 2: in space.
Speaker 3: Do you know, Well, there's not a lot they can do.
Speaker 3: They try to do what they can with the cardiovascular
Speaker 3: strength in some resistance training, but the effects of micro gravity,
Speaker 3: which is that weightlessness, it's tough to really have that
Speaker 3: bone building strength activity that we experience on the Earth
Speaker 3: with gravity. So the body, it goes through several adaptations,
Speaker 3: and most of them adversely impact the spine in the
Speaker 3: structure of the body. I think you mentioned spinal elongation,
Speaker 3: which is the process that results in a temporary increase
Speaker 3: in this height, and I think it's one two inches
Speaker 3: or more. However, this elongation at least a back discomfort
Speaker 3: because if you can imagine those muscles and tendons and
Speaker 3: ligaments are stretching beyond its usual limpit limits.
Speaker 2: And especially those who have already spinal misalignments or what
Speaker 2: we call subluxations, they're going to impact them in a
Speaker 2: greater way. And this is why it is so quintessential
Speaker 2: in my opinion, for all astronauts to be under regular
Speaker 2: chiropractic care before they enter into the space program, during
Speaker 2: the space program, and certainly before and after their space missions,
Speaker 2: because if you don't do that, you're asking for trouble.
Speaker 2: It's no different than if somebody has a pre existing
Speaker 2: know you fill in the blank, heart problem, lung problem.
Speaker 2: Obviously you're going to take care of that before you
Speaker 2: put somebody under that kind of stress and rigor. Why
Speaker 2: wouldn't you do that? Knowing that space travel causes such
Speaker 2: an amazing and exhilarating in some cases because who doesn't
Speaker 2: want to be two inches taller? But it may exacerbate
Speaker 2: in existing condition. And that's why I think the men
Speaker 2: and women, the brave men and women who go intout
Speaker 2: of space need regular spinal care delivered by the doctor
Speaker 2: of choice, which happens to be the chiropractic physician. We'll
Speaker 2: talk more about this when we come back. Stay tuned.
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Speaker 2: I welcome you or welcome you. Back to this hour
Speaker 2: of the Doctor Bob Martin Show we have with US
Speaker 2: co host doctor Adam Brockmann joining me, and I have
Speaker 2: neglected to tell you that coming up a little bit
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Speaker 2: rigors of outer space with our special co host from
Speaker 2: this point forward, doctor Adam Brockman is joining us. Doctor Brockman,
Speaker 2: you know we talked about some of the physical issues.
Speaker 2: What about the psychological effects of space. I mean think
Speaker 2: I was thinking about those astronauts being up there, being
Speaker 2: stranded for over two hundred days. They were supposed to
Speaker 2: be there what eight or ten days? They're there for
Speaker 2: hundreds of days. I mean just being in space being
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of us seek quietness when there's
Speaker 2: a lot of chatter, but not that much, not that long.
Speaker 2: I think it would drive me crazy if I was
Speaker 2: away from my family and a lot of the things
Speaker 2: that I do today. So what role does the psychological
Speaker 2: support play in an astronaut's health?
Speaker 3: Well, this has got to be very important because if
Speaker 3: you can, if you can imagine these astronauts that were stranded,
Speaker 3: they thought they were going to be up there for
Speaker 3: ten days, it turns out it's a better part of
Speaker 3: a year. Can you I just can't imagine that. So
Speaker 3: I want to read what is a psychiatrist in Beverly Hills,
Speaker 3: said a doctor Lieberman? She said, quote, and we're talking
Speaker 3: about Sunny Williams. Here said quote Williams apparent weight loss
Speaker 3: may have not been entirely caused by physical issues. Doctor
Speaker 3: Lieberman went on to say, these astronauts have been in
Speaker 3: space for nine months, when only they were supposed to
Speaker 3: be there for ten days. And she goes on to say,
Speaker 3: quote for most of this time, they couldn't be sure
Speaker 3: if they were ever going to be rescued, which is
Speaker 3: tremendously stressful. Goes on to say more. Here, Sunita Williams
Speaker 3: put on a brave face and told everyone she was
Speaker 3: happy to have that extra time in space, but the
Speaker 3: prospect of facing a slow death in a space capsule
Speaker 3: is the thing that nightmares are made of, and it
Speaker 3: took a toll on her psyche.
Speaker 2: So can you how can you get rid of that thought?
Speaker 2: You know, no matter how optimistic and positive you are
Speaker 2: about getting back, there's also the reality check knowing, and
Speaker 2: you know, astronauts know the risks. They know the risks
Speaker 2: associated with what they're doing, even though they're only getting
Speaker 2: paid one hundred and sixty thousand dollars a year at
Speaker 2: the most, which is to me an embarrassment. We need
Speaker 2: to change that up immediately. Go ahead. I don't mean
Speaker 2: to interrupt you there.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you're fine. And I think this the psychological toll.
Speaker 3: How astronauts manage this stress while they're there, If they're
Speaker 3: anticipating being there for as long as they are, they
Speaker 3: can do things and manage the stress through meditation, deep
Speaker 3: breathing exercises, and they maintain a structured routine. They can
Speaker 3: also do some video calls with their family, which I
Speaker 3: think is important. But the thing that I still see
Speaker 3: that is lacking is this is the supplementation. How the
Speaker 3: food is up there is similar to if we were
Speaker 3: going on a camping trip. So it's freeze dried, you
Speaker 3: have to rehydrate it, and it's lacking nutrients. We got
Speaker 3: to do some more supplementation with these astronauts so they
Speaker 3: aren't coming back looking so ill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to get into the bare bones and
Speaker 2: the basics of clinical nutrition, not just the you know,
Speaker 2: the basic registered dietitian sort of stuff, which is minimal
Speaker 2: minimal in my opinion, It has to go above and
Speaker 2: beyond that. We need to get into therapeutic doses of
Speaker 2: clinical nutrition. Based on the fact that their bodies are
Speaker 2: going to be put through so much more stress than
Speaker 2: what we find here on Earth. Therefore, we need a
Speaker 2: greater level of nutrition to offset that or to counter it.
Speaker 2: Hopefully that will happen soon. All right, we're gonna come
Speaker 2: right back with you. Stay here. You're tuned into the
Speaker 2: Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stand by all.
Speaker 2: Right, you're tuned into the Doctor Brock Martin Show. We
Speaker 2: have with us doctor Adam Brockman as well, and we've
Speaker 2: been talking about outer space travel the risks associated with it,
Speaker 2: which include blindness, brain damage, bone fractures, you name it.
Speaker 2: Astronauts are subjected to amazing and extreme health hazards. I
Speaker 2: don't think they're totally appreciated with what they do at all,
Speaker 2: and they need to be compensated, at least from a
Speaker 2: salary standpoint, a lot more than they currently are. And
Speaker 2: we also need to provide for them cutting edge healthcare,
Speaker 2: which they're not real from everything I've been able to learn,
Speaker 2: and I know people who work at NASA in Houston.
Speaker 2: In fact, I have treated a number of NASA employees
Speaker 2: that work in Houston, Texas, and I know what these astronauts.
Speaker 2: You know, I got a lot of information that I
Speaker 2: otherwise would not have received from people who are on
Speaker 2: the inside of NASA. And I have to tell you
Speaker 2: that they're not getting cutting edge nutrition as taught to
Speaker 2: doctor Adam Brockman and myself. They're getting minimal there, and
Speaker 2: they're not getting the type of care that their body
Speaker 2: frames need before they even go into space. You know,
Speaker 2: it's okay, your heart sounds good, you got good lungs,
Speaker 2: you can see get in there. You know, I'm sure
Speaker 2: there's more than that, and they have to be in
Speaker 2: tip top shape. But they're not receiving a well rounded,
Speaker 2: holistic version of healthcare. They're simply being screened for sick
Speaker 2: care issues. All right, doctor Brock, will we just have
Speaker 2: a couple minutes left in this hour. I'm gonna let
Speaker 2: you have it to impart any information you'd like to
Speaker 2: finish with in this segment.
Speaker 3: Well, space exploration has also has always been fascinating to
Speaker 3: most of us. It pushes the limits of human endurance
Speaker 3: human ingenuity. However, it's not without its challenges, particularly concerning
Speaker 3: the health of astronauts, like we've been discussing. But one
Speaker 3: of the most intriguing aspects of these health concerns is
Speaker 3: the similarity that it is to the natural aging process
Speaker 3: we experience on Earth. The physical toll on astronauts provides
Speaker 3: valuable insights into this aging process. It is you can
Speaker 3: assume that NASA will intensify its research for the aeronautical medicine,
Speaker 3: thereby offering a greater understanding for the overall aging process
Speaker 3: that is experienced on Earth. Considering the exposure to things
Speaker 3: like free rat in the DNA alterations that are endured
Speaker 3: by astronauts in space. This is a normal part of
Speaker 3: the aging process that all of us are going to
Speaker 3: experience here. And I think that that's probably one of
Speaker 3: the more fascinating aspects of what can be done with
Speaker 3: NASA research on the human body, especially as some of
Speaker 3: us think about traveling to space ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it's almost like thinking about putting
Speaker 2: somebody into an oven and slowly cooking them, but turning
Speaker 2: it up faster in outer space. It's scary. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: all right, thank you for that, doctor Brockman. Ladies and gentlemen,
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