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Speaker 1: the description. Today, I want to welcome Donut. He is
Speaker 1: a researcher and host and creator of Donut Factory and
Speaker 1: Donut Factory podcast Donut Welcome. How you doing y'all?
Speaker 2: What I'm doing good is Donut. Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for having me on your show.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You're excellent man. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming on. This is gonna be fun. I
Speaker 1: love what you do on your show. I love to
Speaker 1: get weird today. So what we're doing today has been
Speaker 1: a while, but we're going to once again visit the
Speaker 1: delicious conspiracy Buffet. We explore all of our favorite trending
Speaker 1: or even classic conspiracies. Now, if you've been following the
Speaker 1: show lately, you know that I've become a bit jaded
Speaker 1: when it comes to many conspiracies and the truth movement
Speaker 1: in general. But even though these realms have been heavily
Speaker 1: infiltrated and tainted, there are still conspiracies unfolding as we
Speaker 1: speak that are completely valid. Now, this is a challenging
Speaker 1: time for people that have been around a while presenting
Speaker 1: this information, but there are still ways to navigate through it,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna try today. Now, before we dig into
Speaker 1: the buffet, Donnut, this is your first time on tell
Speaker 1: us all about yourself and your content.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, I'm a big fan of conspiracy content.
Speaker 2: I'm just a fan, you know. I'll just be listening
Speaker 2: to podcasts from all the greats you know. And what
Speaker 2: I did was I wanted to be a comedian, a
Speaker 2: video editor, a music video editor. And while I was
Speaker 2: doing behind the scenes video production for big conservative news channels,
Speaker 2: learning about geopolitics and whatnot, well, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: time spent editing alone, and so I would listen to
Speaker 2: all the conspiracies. That's what I did. It wasn't something
Speaker 2: I was going to pursue or wanted to pursue. It
Speaker 2: was just the passion of mine and all I did.
Speaker 2: And then when the world locked down, I was one
Speaker 2: of the first people to be out on the Internet
Speaker 2: talking about what's going on symbolically back in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: and I got the receipts to show that the social
Speaker 2: credit scoring system has really made it difficult for me
Speaker 2: and many others, not just me. Not to be self
Speaker 2: pity victim or anything, but this is coming for everybody
Speaker 2: on a more tyrannical level. So I think it's important
Speaker 2: to talk about the demonetization and the censorship and whatnot
Speaker 2: like that. So what I do now is I just
Speaker 2: I have a good time. I try to not stay
Speaker 2: jaded looking into these things, but expand on the research
Speaker 2: of all the people that you know, pay homage to
Speaker 2: learning from them and expanding on it, because not every
Speaker 2: one research sure has all the answers. Not me, not
Speaker 2: no one. Right.
Speaker 1: How have you been navigating the censorship as everything has
Speaker 1: been unfolding? It's been difficult for us. We lost our
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. At times, it seems like our podcast is
Speaker 1: being fucked with. I don't know what to think about
Speaker 1: any of it. I have hoped that one day things
Speaker 1: will balance out and maybe these types of topics that
Speaker 1: we're talking about will not be as quote unquote dangerous
Speaker 1: to the powers that be. But I don't know. How
Speaker 1: have you been navigating through every thing? Oh?
Speaker 2: Man? It is Uh, it's very very difficult. I guess
Speaker 2: by surrendering over to spirituality. That's my thing, That's how
Speaker 2: I handle life. There's a lot of stuff we have
Speaker 2: no control over. Trying to navigate through these systems. Is
Speaker 2: you kind of have to be smarter than the B system.
Speaker 2: You've got to be smarter than the AI tiptoe. And
Speaker 2: it's even though I do that, it doesn't work. I
Speaker 2: I you know, that's a great question. I kind of
Speaker 2: bring it back to doing two things I can control
Speaker 2: or my attitudes and my action everything else. I'm powerless
Speaker 2: over so knowing that's wisdom and trying to stay grounded
Speaker 2: and that. But yeah, it's a you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about making big extent. It had a dumb out,
Speaker 2: But who has DVD player?
Speaker 1: Day right on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in interesting times for sure. Now you cover
Speaker 1: a lot of symbolism and celebrity fuckery that's going on
Speaker 1: out there. There's been some interesting things happening lately. It's
Speaker 1: not a good time to be a high level elite
Speaker 1: cebrity celebrity pedophile right now. There's a lot of sacrifices happening,
Speaker 1: a lot of information coming out. The veils are being lifted.
Speaker 1: What do you think about everything that's happening in Hollyweird,
Speaker 1: in our entertainment industry and music industry and everything that
Speaker 1: we're seeing right now.
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of the predictive programming that's happening right
Speaker 2: now is about an apocalypse. It's about the crushing of society,
Speaker 2: whether that's the new Fallout show where the main chick
Speaker 2: is from Vault thirty three, which seems to be symbolic
Speaker 2: and she's in blue and yellow which is also symbolic
Speaker 2: of asonry, and it's just all over the place, all
Speaker 2: these collapsing films. Civil War is full of symbolism, and
Speaker 2: that it's a total leftist movie as well, because from
Speaker 2: my research, from listening to other researchers who've done way
Speaker 2: more work than me. I mean, these people that we're
Speaker 2: reading about these books, they spent their entire lives researching
Speaker 2: these topics, and we get to get them and add
Speaker 2: on to them. It's cool, but a lot of it
Speaker 2: goes into this communist socialist type leftists programming. And it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter which religion, which political side, it seems to
Speaker 2: be that's the religion, and you can see it in
Speaker 2: these films. Even South kore they make the best films
Speaker 2: right now. I'm a huge fan of Korean filmmaking because
Speaker 2: they haven't been brainwashed by the political correctness. They work
Speaker 2: really hard on their films, but I can see some
Speaker 2: propaganda in their films as well for their society. I'm
Speaker 2: an American, so our programming is different than other cultures.
Speaker 2: What I've noticed is the South Korean culture, they're very
Speaker 2: all about scholarship, like learning and respecting the elders, and
Speaker 2: I can see in their films are moving them way
Speaker 2: from that. Although the films are so creative and whatnot,
Speaker 2: and them questioning boardy figure may be a good thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I can see it creeping into
Speaker 2: their films. But they got a new movie coming out
Speaker 2: and it's about the end of the world. Everything's about
Speaker 2: the collapse of society. I feel like that's the programming
Speaker 2: happening now. Yeah, it seems I know that has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with what you just said about all the deadlers.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll still get to that, but it does seem
Speaker 1: like there's an apocalyptics playbook that is being put forward
Speaker 1: as Hey, this is going to happen, and it's based
Speaker 1: off of biblical prophecy, and this is happening now, and
Speaker 1: it's trying to put in the mass consciousness. I believe
Speaker 1: it's a part of a fear factor, as part of
Speaker 1: a programming thing so that we in a way manifest
Speaker 1: this armageddon or this apocalyptic outcome that they're hoping to
Speaker 1: put forward.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Like, what is it like is they're talking
Speaker 2: about zombies for so long it's definitely spooky.
Speaker 1: Whatever, Well, it seems like whatever they're trying to it's
Speaker 1: like failing miserably right now. It seems like nobody is
Speaker 1: latching on to the power plays and the fear events
Speaker 1: and the false flags that are being pumped out one
Speaker 1: after the other. It seems like they're just throwing everything
Speaker 1: out there to see what sticks right now. And I'm
Speaker 1: hopeful people. To me, seems like a lot of people
Speaker 1: are coming around and just not participating with the bullshit.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good that you're hopeful. It's all about having hope.
Speaker 2: I'm very like, my hope is like it's very jaded,
Speaker 2: like you're saying for society, humanity, But that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: I don't have hope. For hope is the best thing.
Speaker 2: Even in that movie Hunger Games, there's that line about hope.
Speaker 2: How he's all like, yo, you can't have them have
Speaker 2: hope because that that's like, so it's important to have
Speaker 2: hope for sure. So that's good. That's good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think all these celebrities that are being outed
Speaker 1: right now, we're always there so that they could be
Speaker 1: a sacrificial lamb at some point and they were just
Speaker 1: being used as puppets to just gain more power and
Speaker 1: control for those above them, the ones we don't know
Speaker 1: their names.
Speaker 2: It's all about the people. We don't know their names.
Speaker 2: Like we get told all these names, but we don't
Speaker 2: know the power. Who are the people that hired these people.
Speaker 2: You know, we're not going to know their names for sure.
Speaker 2: Uh maybe we could. There's some people that have connected
Speaker 2: some you know, lineages going back to the Hamarabi code
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But I haven't really dived down that h
Speaker 2: too much. But yeah, the symbolism's crazy in these films.
Speaker 2: So this new Civil War movie, the cover of it
Speaker 2: is this guy with like hair, crazy hair holding a
Speaker 2: boom bam, and is nail polish is uh blue and pink?
Speaker 2: And this was the UFC fight three hundred. This is
Speaker 2: how I think the whole similachrum works is that they
Speaker 2: push everything at once. Instead of one radio show. Back
Speaker 2: in the day, we have one radio show or three channels,
Speaker 2: or like a couple newspapers and those couple newspapers the
Speaker 2: news channel, these three like devices would tell us everything
Speaker 2: to believe, and everyone believed it. Now we got to
Speaker 2: have it hit on so many different levels because there's
Speaker 2: so many podcasts, so many shows, so many things. So
Speaker 2: the programming goes even on our food products like mount
Speaker 2: and Dew and Monster Energy drink. So the new Monster
Speaker 2: Energy drink at the UFC is this pink and blue colors,
Speaker 2: which are cool colors. Like I got like like artists
Speaker 2: be doing like cool Like my artists, we all all
Speaker 2: about like full colors and stuff, and like I'm donut
Speaker 2: and that's like the color of a donut. So now
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh dang it. Because the symbology goes so deep.
Speaker 2: But the way the similacrum works is that they hit
Speaker 2: us on so many different levels through these different color
Speaker 2: codings or symbols. And this UFC fight three hundred, it
Speaker 2: was UFC three hundred, which was interesting because it was
Speaker 2: going on during the World War Three, stuff happening over
Speaker 2: the weekend. And I think Iran launched three hundred missiles
Speaker 2: during the UFC three hundred. And then there's that movie
Speaker 2: three hundred, which kind of has the same vibe. I
Speaker 2: think of this of this small country which would be
Speaker 2: like Israel, like Sparta three hundred versus the big Empire.
Speaker 2: So I feel like that was all kind of in dissimilation.
Speaker 2: And during that program, there was a national Emergency Test alert,
Speaker 2: not in America but in the Middle East, so you'd
Speaker 2: have to be in the Middle East to even see that.
Speaker 2: So this new South Korean film, I'm jumping all over
Speaker 2: the place. But this new South Korean film that's coming
Speaker 2: out on the twenty six, Goodbye Earth, it starts off
Speaker 2: the trailer with this emergency text alert. It's all like,
Speaker 2: this emergency text alert is super important. And Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: he sent one out at two eighteen, right, And this
Speaker 2: is I believe, telling the elite something. So when Hawaii
Speaker 2: sent out their text alert at eight eight am about
Speaker 2: three years ago, well three years later or so, on
Speaker 2: eight in the eighth eight area code, Leahina went up
Speaker 2: into flames and they had an emergency alert, but they
Speaker 2: couldn't get the alerts out because I guess they shut
Speaker 2: off the internet. But Joe Biden sending this alert at
Speaker 2: to eighteen, it's a date I'm looking out for to eighteen,
Speaker 2: which could be written so many different ways.
Speaker 1: It seems like there's layers to this symbolism and synchronisticism.
Speaker 1: As it appears to us, there seems to be a
Speaker 1: layer that is controlled completely that higher levels are completely
Speaker 1: aware of that they're putting these symbols in for this reason,
Speaker 1: a signal to something or someone or some event, and
Speaker 1: then there's another layer I believe that no one controls.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's this etheric energy that our imaginative plane that
Speaker 1: people working on projects or producing movies will have the
Speaker 1: idea to put this in there, and it's something prophetic,
Speaker 1: but it just connects to this maybe energetic information, this
Speaker 1: energy field or information field that surrounds us at all
Speaker 1: times that is plugging in or people are latching onto
Speaker 1: it somehow and bringing forward that information into different films
Speaker 1: and even maybe masonic construction and premonitions and things of
Speaker 1: that nature. But I think that there's many levels to it.
Speaker 1: There's the layers that are people aware of, and then
Speaker 1: there's something else happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm going back to the nineties watching
Speaker 2: the music videos of the nineties like black Hole Sun
Speaker 2: and all the Sampaku eyes and the demon faces. Tupac
Speaker 2: is trending right now, and if you look at the
Speaker 2: cover of Tupac's albums or a lot of his photos,
Speaker 2: he has the lower underneath some Pacu eyes. And this
Speaker 2: is was able to accurately predict the UFC fight of
Speaker 2: who was going to win or lose through the poster
Speaker 2: of the symbology of the eyeballs of the three whites
Speaker 2: underneath the eye, which means that it's stress, danger might
Speaker 2: be coming their way. That doesn't mean that if you
Speaker 2: have them, that you're screwed by symbolism, I believe. And
Speaker 2: in the nineties the Sampacu eyes, which are the three whites,
Speaker 2: that's what some Pacu means. It's like when you're going
Speaker 2: crazy and your eyes are up like that and you
Speaker 2: could just see the three whites at the top. That's
Speaker 2: what some Paco means. And in the nineties they had
Speaker 2: the more psych cop psychopathic some Pacua eyes of somebody
Speaker 2: like going crazy. But it's in all the music videos
Speaker 2: and it's like all over the place, and a lot
Speaker 2: of these artists who have a demise, or a boxer
Speaker 2: or a fighter with a demise has them underneath. So
Speaker 2: I'm looking out for uh this because today, you know,
Speaker 2: is Selena's birthday. Rest in peace, Selena. When's the moon
Speaker 2: and they just released her album The Moonchild, which goes
Speaker 2: into Alistair Crowley's Moonchild like this, and she died on
Speaker 2: a new moon, and astrologically, that's when you plant the
Speaker 2: seed in a sense, the new moon, and then the
Speaker 2: full moon is when it comes to fruition. And that
Speaker 2: was an eclipse the day after she died, and there's
Speaker 2: this eclipse ritual with a lot of people. I've got
Speaker 2: the pattern recognition of it all. I hope I'm not
Speaker 2: vomiting so much. I'm just hungry with this buffle.
Speaker 1: That's all good. There was a lot of symbolism leading
Speaker 1: up to the eclipse, and a lot of people were
Speaker 1: quote unquote disappointed that there wasn't a rapture or a
Speaker 1: major event that was associated. But there really never seems
Speaker 1: to be with any of these hyped up end of
Speaker 1: the world type of massive events that occur throughout our
Speaker 1: history that people build up that something could possibly happen,
Speaker 1: and nothing really happens on the surface. But I'm wondering energetically,
Speaker 1: if it's symbolic and something is happening in these ash
Speaker 1: realms or in different energetic ways that we just don't understand.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you're crushing it, bro, That's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 2: It's a psychological, scientific technocracy that we're dealing with that
Speaker 2: might not even be human. It could be just AI
Speaker 2: and that could be some sort of entity who knows,
Speaker 2: you know, controlling people, but give us. They give us
Speaker 2: cathartic experiences. That's what football is all about. That's what
Speaker 2: the Roman gladiator games are all about. That's what the
Speaker 2: movie The Purge is all about. These films of the
Speaker 2: Acalypse is a cathartic experience, going to a haunted house,
Speaker 2: going to watch a sad movie or a funny show.
Speaker 2: These are having these experiences emotionally to let some of
Speaker 2: the air out. That's the whole movie of The Purge is,
Speaker 2: let's go have everybody break all the laws and be
Speaker 2: savages for twenty four hours on three two two. Coincidentally,
Speaker 2: that's like the Purge date, and then you'll feel better
Speaker 2: and you'll be good. But there's some truth to that
Speaker 2: though as well, because we live in a very narcissistic,
Speaker 2: unnatural environment, and what narcissism is. According to Alexander Loewen,
Speaker 2: who was the protege of William Reich who was arrested
Speaker 2: by the US military and put into prison and pretty
Speaker 2: much killed in prison, and all of his books were
Speaker 2: burned as well in America. That's crazy, you know. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that all this stuff is correct or whatnot.
Speaker 2: It's just that narcissism while Alexander Loewen was talking about
Speaker 2: is the killing of the self and what that means
Speaker 2: is cutting off emotionally who you are. And that's how
Speaker 2: robots are so robots, they get rid of their inner diet,
Speaker 2: like their inner feeling, their inner diety, lue being self
Speaker 2: aware like yo, this ticks me off, or oh wow,
Speaker 2: this makes me feel this way. And if you're not
Speaker 2: aware of how you are feeling, then it's hard to
Speaker 2: see if you are being manipulated by agents of the
Speaker 2: deep state. Yes, it would be called like the CNN
Speaker 2: and all this or Fox News emotionally pimping the world
Speaker 2: through fear tactics to get us reactive. This is nothing
Speaker 2: but a sales technique. It's what pimps do to their hose.
Speaker 2: They you know, they they beat the hoe until she
Speaker 2: thinks she's gonna die and then through that fear, she'll
Speaker 2: be loyal. That's seriously what like in the books, and
Speaker 2: that's I think that's what Snoop Dogg spiritual advisors. That's
Speaker 2: what's Yes, that's what Snoop Dogg spiritual advisors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's all based on MK ultra tactics. They've
Speaker 1: been implementing these on the masses for a very long
Speaker 1: time now. And what's concerning to me about all of
Speaker 1: what you said is technology and AI has taken over
Speaker 1: for these people in dictating what some of these things
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Speaker 1: and when and how through social media. AI controls most
Speaker 1: of what we see through social media and on the
Speaker 1: Internet right now, and it's controlling algorithms that dictate censorship.
Speaker 1: So everything is being turned over to this unseen force,
Speaker 1: this AI, this technology that is now pretty much running
Speaker 1: the show when it comes to controlling what we see
Speaker 1: and interact with online, and that to me is pretty terrifying.
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Speaker 2: But the thing is is how long has this been
Speaker 2: in operation for? Right? So the governments have ten years
Speaker 2: in advanced technology? It's ten and we know no, I
Speaker 2: think it's thousands of years. But this is for you
Speaker 2: know somebody who you know is listed. No, they're way
Speaker 2: more advanced. Yeah, but let's just say they are only
Speaker 2: ten years in advance in technology, which is something.
Speaker 1: Dies unforeseen now because everything's progressing so extremely fast, we
Speaker 1: don't know we're going to have tomorrow, So even ten
Speaker 1: is plenty.
Speaker 2: Right, So like the the lockdowns, like that was all
Speaker 2: implemented chat GPT, all these AI systems, AI and numerology
Speaker 2: is nineteen, so it's AI one nine. Nineteen is like
Speaker 2: all over the place. So not just like color coding
Speaker 2: symbolically symbols, but also numbers are symbolic as well. So
Speaker 2: this nineteen number is huge. I mean that's the number
Speaker 2: of the lockdown, and there's just so much to it,
Speaker 2: but that's AI. So AI was activated during this and
Speaker 2: I believe that the AI tells the people in power,
Speaker 2: like an elon musk oh Yo, if you post this systematically,
Speaker 2: the engagement is showing you'll be liked okay, so post
Speaker 2: this meme okay. So well, systematically it says that if
Speaker 2: you post this meme, people will like this cryptocurrency more
Speaker 2: so than any other crypto. So post this cryptocy okay.
Speaker 2: And this is slowly leading everybody into the new smart
Speaker 2: city blockchain future.
Speaker 1: Right do you think that this is all a top
Speaker 1: down power pyramid. I've had so many different perspectives come
Speaker 1: through this show, some believing that there is one control
Speaker 1: system that has many different wings and many different tentacles,
Speaker 1: but it's all part of the same system that's going
Speaker 1: to hope for the same outcome of humanity. And some
Speaker 1: believe that there are different factions that have completely different
Speaker 1: ideas of where they want humanity to go, and they're
Speaker 1: battling it out right now at the top, throwing out
Speaker 1: different layers of symbolism and false flags and operations to
Speaker 1: try and dictate their different outcome.
Speaker 2: Man plans, god ass. So that's where my school thought
Speaker 2: is is that I think that this is a spiritual
Speaker 2: thing happening with forces that are way above our pay grade.
Speaker 2: I guess you know, there's there's something going on in
Speaker 2: the spiritual world. Uh. That's where where what I think
Speaker 2: and I think for humans can kind of hijack that.
Speaker 2: For example, leadership, you can be promoted as a manager.
Speaker 2: You're in a power You're in a leadership position, right,
Speaker 2: that would be like the second level of leadership. People
Speaker 2: are following you because you are appointed a position of power.
Speaker 2: Another position of power would be like a government, Uh,
Speaker 2: coming in with the military, Well, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: do what we say because it's forceful, or just a
Speaker 2: gang a gangster or something like that, going in and saying, Yo,
Speaker 2: you do what I tell you to do kind of thing.
Speaker 2: That is another power position, which is the lowest form
Speaker 2: of power. That is layer zero, layer one, I guess
Speaker 2: the power. But the most powerful is somebody who is
Speaker 2: influential should I say a social media influencer or something
Speaker 2: like that, But it's the character of a person. This
Speaker 2: is the top leadership position. Is somebody who people want
Speaker 2: to be led by, somebody who is influential enough to
Speaker 2: be like Yo and Machavelli talked about, is through skill,
Speaker 2: right skill? If you could get to the power position
Speaker 2: through skill and people want to without money or without
Speaker 2: being paid to follow them or fear to follow them, like,
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, I'm so scared of this person, that
Speaker 2: would be the highest level position of power my opinion.
Speaker 2: But that's what But that's why the illuminati hires people
Speaker 2: like Kanye, hires people like jay Z, hires people like Beethoven,
Speaker 2: hires influential figures that can lead society in the way
Speaker 2: that they want them to be led.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm going all over the place there with it. What
Speaker 2: what what was the question we just we't know.
Speaker 1: About we were digging in. It's just about AI and
Speaker 1: the level of control that it dictates and maybe where
Speaker 1: we're headed with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, So that's why I was
Speaker 2: talking about them three layers of power positions, and and
Speaker 2: then there's the spiritual world, and then the spiritual world.
Speaker 2: God's always going to win, but we also are here
Speaker 2: on this earth and we can take action. If you
Speaker 2: have faith without taking action, that's pointless. You gotta take
Speaker 2: the action as well. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What that's all, good man, Well, right now, you're exactly,
Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right. It is a spiritual war.
Speaker 1: And the target, the main target, I believe, has been
Speaker 1: the younger generations right now. There are because people our
Speaker 1: age and older. There's a lot of us that are
Speaker 1: stuck that in our belief, in our knowing that this
Speaker 1: is a corrupt system and it needs to be destroyed
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: But the younger generations, they still have this malleable type
Speaker 1: of mind where they can control it, especially if they
Speaker 1: pumping them full of pharmaceuticals and drugs and getting them
Speaker 1: hooked on social media. I mean, you've seen some of
Speaker 1: the videos of kids that have their iPad taken away
Speaker 1: and destroy the home, or they have their iPad, their
Speaker 1: phone taken away and they're still scrolling nothing in their hands.
Speaker 1: This is very concerning. It's you. I'm part of the reason.
Speaker 1: I'm very glad I don't have children, but it makes
Speaker 1: me very concerned for those who do have children. And
Speaker 1: my hat's off to them because this is a very
Speaker 1: difficult time for the younger generations. And I saw you
Speaker 1: recently did a video about millennial NPCs, and to me,
Speaker 1: there's there's some truth to that. They're trying to make
Speaker 1: zombies out of this younger generation, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one of them, bros. Sometimes I'm all my
Speaker 2: photes so much that my hand starts hurting. It's seriously
Speaker 2: like we are in the transhumanism era. It's it's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2: And it's something about the light. Something about the light.
Speaker 2: And if you're listening to this podcast right now, I'll
Speaker 2: make sure to hit that subscribe button and give us
Speaker 2: like a shared a video out. But you're listening to
Speaker 2: long form content and sometimes people you know don't even
Speaker 2: watch the video, they just listen to it or watch it.
Speaker 2: But it's long form content. This is the future. If
Speaker 2: you want to you know, have your kids being the
Speaker 2: power position is to have them have a longer attention
Speaker 2: to sit and meditate and chill by listening to these podcasts.
Speaker 2: I think that that is sort of better than these
Speaker 2: a lot better than just the tiktoks and and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's I think that's the big thing. If
Speaker 2: you could train yourself to kind of just sit for
Speaker 2: a minute and just chill for a minute and do nothing,
Speaker 2: and then the next day for two minutes, the next
Speaker 2: day for three minutes, you know, uh that that is
Speaker 2: really good. Our human connection will be huge in the future.
Speaker 2: There'll be one of the biggest businesses. There is probably
Speaker 2: somebody that'll look you in the eyes and hug you,
Speaker 2: talk to you, or be real because there there's something
Speaker 2: with truth. If you just speak truth, people are going
Speaker 2: to vibrate with it. And they're all about the truth
Speaker 2: and honesty and whatnot. And so if you want to
Speaker 2: be a truth seeker, everyone says they're a truth seeker. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but they're all on some sort of drugs. How truthful
Speaker 2: is that? You know you're not one hundred sober, then
Speaker 2: how are you being truthful? I'm not saying that there's
Speaker 2: not a time and place for that. But me, I
Speaker 2: lived in addiction for so long in the fog. They
Speaker 2: can't the doug how you go see it. We live
Speaker 2: to a FuG, you know, the theobac son when you're
Speaker 2: living in the fog, which I did for most of
Speaker 2: my life. Is that that's not being truthful because and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of big influencers to tie it back
Speaker 2: on social media, huge, I mean, and they are on
Speaker 2: some sort of mind altering chemical. So how truthful is
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that this whole truth thing
Speaker 2: and also the truth of how are you feeling? Am
Speaker 2: I sad? Am? I angry? And what are my feelings
Speaker 2: of whatever is going on? People block that out. They
Speaker 2: killed themselves and they become a narcissist through that way. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of recree is a lifelong journey.
Speaker 2: Nobody gets recovered like it gets a lifelong journey of recovery.
Speaker 2: And that's the direction I move in.
Speaker 1: You know, Well, I want to go back to a second,
Speaker 1: to the concept of the NPC. I personally believe that
Speaker 1: no one on this planet can truly be an NPC
Speaker 1: unless they're a clone or a cyber or something like that.
Speaker 1: But I think that there's always a level of connection
Speaker 1: that we always have because I think anybody can come
Speaker 1: back online and rejuvenate that connection to Source at any time,
Speaker 1: no matter how deep and duck they've gone and gotten
Speaker 1: involved with the dark side. I think that can always
Speaker 1: be reactivated, if you want to put it that way.
Speaker 1: So what is happening now is I think an attempt
Speaker 1: to completely sever that from people. And even though I
Speaker 1: don't think that's possible, these people, I think they do,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's their goal, is to have
Speaker 1: as many people on this planet severed from that connection
Speaker 1: so that we rely on their technology, on their protection,
Speaker 1: on their everything. We used to have these consciousness abilities,
Speaker 1: our ancient ancestors to talk to each other through our mind,
Speaker 1: maybe even levitate stones, all these incredible things that we've
Speaker 1: lost due to our lack of interaction with nature and
Speaker 1: connection to Source and things like that, and then technology
Speaker 1: comes along and knocks it even further out of our consciousness.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the attempt, the the continued attempt
Speaker 1: to sever that connection to what we call source.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, you know, anybody could get
Speaker 2: tapped into it. People do it all the time when
Speaker 2: they say help right when you're the FIXA hell, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I don't know. I had to get emergency
Speaker 2: dental work done yesterday. My whole face started swelling up,
Speaker 2: and I go up in the lazes, like, yo, you
Speaker 2: know you should take care of this because you can
Speaker 2: die from uh like tooth infections and stuff. And I,
Speaker 2: you know, I got scared. So I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my God, help me, you know that, like in the
Speaker 2: dentist chair, and I'll just say, you know, I will
Speaker 2: be done over and over again and like let go
Speaker 2: and have faith, which is very hard because, uh, even
Speaker 2: though I have tons of experiences of God taking care
Speaker 2: of me, I still want to take the power back,
Speaker 2: you know, where I cotroll and not God's. And that's
Speaker 2: all fear. So it's like a daily thing to surrender
Speaker 2: to the spiritual realm and uh, you know, but anybody
Speaker 2: could get tapped into it. I'm I'm just I've had
Speaker 2: so many God shots, is what I like to call them.
Speaker 2: But these experiences that can't be a coincidence, like what
Speaker 2: is the coincidence of this certain thing happening at a
Speaker 2: certain time. Just little things like that happen all the
Speaker 2: time when when you're consciously aware or if you're looking
Speaker 2: for it, once you start seeing patterns and you just
Speaker 2: start waking up to stuff, you can see that there's
Speaker 2: God and everything. Some people are like, yo, it's assimilation.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the heck it is, but there
Speaker 2: is definitely a higher power prize in the world, at
Speaker 2: least in my own experience.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about some of the high
Speaker 1: strange woo woo that people encounter and experience and some
Speaker 1: of the things that's coming out now in our mainstream
Speaker 1: with quote unquote UFOs and UAPs. We are in a
Speaker 1: very unique time where this is being covered to the
Speaker 1: extent it is and to the levels of congressional hearings
Speaker 1: and the ways that it's been presented so far. So
Speaker 1: it's interesting, but it's to me, I have this intuitive
Speaker 1: knowing that it's all bullshit because I've had my own
Speaker 1: spiritual experiences. I've had my own quote unquote contact experiences,
Speaker 1: and I have a knowing through my experience is that
Speaker 1: this is a spiritual metaphysical phenomenon and they're not little
Speaker 1: green men coming to stick things in my butt from
Speaker 1: a different planet. Maybe for you, but not for me,
Speaker 1: not through my experiences and many of the people that
Speaker 1: have come on my show and shared their quote unquote
Speaker 1: abduction or contact experiences, I look at the similarities amongst
Speaker 1: them all, and aside from the ones that I believe
Speaker 1: are truly being abducted by military personnel and being put
Speaker 1: through these horrible projects, I think most people are having
Speaker 1: consciousness experiences, altered dream states, astral experiences where they are
Speaker 1: coming into contact with intelligence. Is there something you might
Speaker 1: call an extraterrestrial but it's more of a inter dimensional
Speaker 1: it's more of a mystical type of experience where these
Speaker 1: intelligences are communicating with you personally for a reason. Whether
Speaker 1: it's a selfish reason for them, whether it's to help you,
Speaker 1: that's for you to decide. But I think that's what
Speaker 1: we're really looking at with the extraterrestrial phenomena. But what
Speaker 1: the mainstream media and government is trying to do is
Speaker 1: build it up so they can, of course have some
Speaker 1: exotic tech and war weapons rolled out and keep us
Speaker 1: in fears that one day we might have an alien
Speaker 1: invasion and they're going to really come here and stick
Speaker 1: things in our butts. Where are you on it?
Speaker 2: Well, I hope they take take me out of this
Speaker 2: before they do that. But the whole UFO alien thing,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of psychological operations happening throughout that. And
Speaker 2: you can look into Edward Lansdale that that is crazy
Speaker 2: rabbit hole right there where this guy was studying like
Speaker 2: these different vampires out in the Philippines and re enacting
Speaker 2: them in the in his military uh in which we
Speaker 2: can see that's where this whole calmutilation thing happening. The
Speaker 2: people that are in power that want to create this
Speaker 2: new world society, I guess would be a good way
Speaker 2: to say it, to be the algorithm is to get us.
Speaker 2: There would have be a climate kind of catastrophe, that's
Speaker 2: why that's pushed so heavily, or an alien invasion. This
Speaker 2: is written about spoken about to bring in the new
Speaker 2: socialist societies. That's those are the two things that are
Speaker 2: going to be utilized. And you can see there's a
Speaker 2: big connection to it. So at Unesco, where these aliens
Speaker 2: are coming out of in the Mexican Congress, that was
Speaker 2: the big story. Well. Unesco was created by Julian Huxley,
Speaker 2: allgu Huxley brother, Darwin's Bulldog's nephew you know, so you
Speaker 2: could see that whole crazy lineage right there. But he
Speaker 2: also created the World Wildlife Fund, and you'll see that
Speaker 2: anything with aliens is going to be connected to climate
Speaker 2: as well. So in the Hollywood, yeah, in the Hollywood films,
Speaker 2: you'll see that the snow melts and then the aliens
Speaker 2: come out of the ground because we're using too much
Speaker 2: gasoline in the So right there, there's a political conspiracy happening.
Speaker 2: Not this credit people having some spiritual experiences. So each
Speaker 2: different plant, for example, that people take, they'll see certain
Speaker 2: machinees maybe or they might see the green man which
Speaker 2: is connected to Payotea or something. So people have these
Speaker 2: experiences where they all see the same thing, or an
Speaker 2: experience where everyone praised to maybe the same god and
Speaker 2: has some sort of experience too. So there is something
Speaker 2: be crack lacking up in the cosmos because there's these
Speaker 2: experiences that keep on happening. So there's the the people
Speaker 2: in the government abducting people, which is on record, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And then there's real experience as
Speaker 2: a pattern recognition of people taking different plants and seeing
Speaker 2: the same things. And then there's money too, like inkston
Speaker 2: Ilians might like get on the Disney Channel. You know
Speaker 2: they make bills, you know, h it didn't There's like
Speaker 2: all these So the whole the whole alien uf quoting,
Speaker 2: I would say ninety nine percent of it is a
Speaker 2: psychological operation and not one percent of it is like
Speaker 2: people like like you're now.
Speaker 1: I can't say much about this, but I would be
Speaker 1: on the lookout in the very near future to see
Speaker 1: that Guya TV is going to be in a lot
Speaker 1: of trouble for a lot of things. There's some things
Speaker 1: going there's just I can't talk about it. I know
Speaker 1: a couple of people involved with Guya TV that are
Speaker 1: fighting in me because they're being somewhat attacked and all
Speaker 1: kinds of crazy stuff coming out about what guy really
Speaker 1: does and what they're really about. Then it's I can't
Speaker 1: say anymore, but it's gonna get interesting. Grab your popcorn.
Speaker 1: Comes to some of this stuff. The whole UFO community
Speaker 1: is about to be outed, you know, in a huge way.
Speaker 2: Well it's yeah, it's connected to the Rockefellers, the Clinton's
Speaker 2: as well, So right there you can see that whole connection.
Speaker 2: You should talk to Matt Arett about it. He or
Speaker 2: look at Matthew Errett wrote a fantastic article called mk
Speaker 2: Ultra Rockefellers UFOs What do they have in common? And
Speaker 2: that just like.
Speaker 1: What I've had a guest on the other day, and
Speaker 1: he does dream research and he tries to connect it
Speaker 1: to the contact experience, and he believes what we're dealing
Speaker 1: with at times with genuine experiences, if they come out
Speaker 1: to be some sort of contact with an extraterrestrial or
Speaker 1: a gray alien, that a lot of it may be
Speaker 1: eggrigors or thought forms that were put into our mind
Speaker 1: through years of programming things like the Alien on Communion,
Speaker 1: some of the more profound Hollywood movies that people absorb.
Speaker 1: And he even said that the researchers like Bud Hopkins,
Speaker 1: their research is so really powerful and profound and at
Speaker 1: times terrifying when they put this stuff out there, that
Speaker 1: it gets into the people's minds and then when they
Speaker 1: dream at night or they have some sort of astral experience,
Speaker 1: they'll come into contact with this collective gray alien eggregor
Speaker 1: that really took on a life of own, but it's
Speaker 1: based on our own imagination. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2: Oh? For sure?
Speaker 4: Like that?
Speaker 2: How to me bro like when I had this dream
Speaker 2: or the real I don't know what that I was,
Speaker 2: but it happened where there was these mantoids mantis aliens,
Speaker 2: and they were traveling through the whole fire system, I think,
Speaker 2: and they were operating on me and I was looking
Speaker 2: down at them operating on me. And this was when
Speaker 2: I wasn't sober, and it's a dream I had, or
Speaker 2: was it. I don't know. I think it was a
Speaker 2: dream maybe, but they're operating on me, and I wasn't scared.
Speaker 2: I'd have fear. It wasn't a scared thing. I was like, go, okay,
Speaker 2: show like it was good. And then I woke up.
Speaker 2: But I forgot about dream until I was like a
Speaker 2: few years sober, and then I was like, oh man,
Speaker 2: I had this crazy dream. You know how you forget
Speaker 2: about a dream but then you remember it. You're like, well,
Speaker 2: that was kind of weird. And I told my friend
Speaker 2: about it and he says multiple people had the same experience,
Speaker 2: and then we were looking at images and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: that's exactly what I saw. Other people also had it,
Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, that's crazy. And then there's
Speaker 2: some eminent researchers two that I really respect, who talked
Speaker 2: about it as well, and I was like, whoa you know?
Speaker 2: So I called them to Wi Fi manthisis but like
Speaker 2: maybe they were doing some kind of surgery on me,
Speaker 2: soul surgery for me to get sober or something. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting, especially what's happening with the changes in
Speaker 1: people's perception right now. I had a guess, have you
Speaker 1: ever heard of Vicky joy Anderson. She wrote the book
Speaker 1: They Come Out at Night. It's about sleep paralysis. Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: she came to my show, and she has a very
Speaker 1: unique perspective about what's happening at times with sleep paralysis,
Speaker 1: and she attributes to some of the experiences to exotic
Speaker 1: military technology at times that they are people being targeted
Speaker 1: and they have the technology to basely control people's dreams
Speaker 1: and like this voice to skull type technology, frequent technology
Speaker 1: where she's had reports of people's sleep paralysis experiences changing
Speaker 1: and evolving over the past ten years to more technological
Speaker 1: entities that they're being introduced to, and it seems like
Speaker 1: the experiences are having a technological landscape instead of having
Speaker 1: this dreamy elf, strange creatures or biological entities or shadow people,
Speaker 1: it's now this technological everything's wired and these things look
Speaker 1: like cyborgs communicating with people during their either terrible dream
Speaker 1: experiences or sleep paralysis or things like that. So I
Speaker 1: found that very interesting, and she believes that that could
Speaker 1: be attributed to either people's interactions with technology or something
Speaker 1: more nefarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dope. I'll have to check that out. That's wild.
Speaker 2: I think that that's happening now with AI. So like AI,
Speaker 2: how like it's being rendered and moves. It kind of
Speaker 2: is like when you're like just daydreaming and imagining, how
Speaker 2: everything just continuously just keeps moving like day I when
Speaker 2: it makes videos, it's kind of like that. I'm working
Speaker 2: on a project with Paranoid American and he makes these
Speaker 2: AI videos and then I edit them and it's It's
Speaker 2: interesting because today I woke up and I don't know
Speaker 2: something about my thoughts. Like in the morning, I got
Speaker 2: some like great connections, like right when I wake up
Speaker 2: and go this, this will connect to this and this
Speaker 2: it's and that was something I was thinking about today.
Speaker 2: But the only reason I was thinking about that is
Speaker 2: because I'm editing these AI videos and now I can
Speaker 2: see that slipping into my imagination is like that pattern.
Speaker 2: Also heard that people don't really dream about cell phones,
Speaker 2: and I think it's kind of weird. I was like, dang, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm no one that really dreams. You can, like people have,
Speaker 2: but like the majority of people, cell phones aren't in
Speaker 2: their dream. Like that's weird, Like why, yeah, man?
Speaker 1: I hear more and more reports from people that say
Speaker 1: slight changes in their reality are occurring when they wake
Speaker 1: up each new day, there may be something that has
Speaker 1: slightly shifted or changed that wasn't that way before, and
Speaker 1: they can't understand how or why it's happening. And I
Speaker 1: think people's perceptions are changing. And I give this example.
Speaker 1: I gave it the other day. I went to a
Speaker 1: grocery store two weeks ago, same grocery store I live
Speaker 1: a couple of blocks from, and I view it as
Speaker 1: a certain way. I really didn't look around much. As
Speaker 1: my awareness opens and my perception changes, I pay attention
Speaker 1: to more things. And I went again the other to
Speaker 1: this same grocery store, and it looked like a completely
Speaker 1: different store, although they hadn't made no changes to it,
Speaker 1: no construction. I was noticing it in a completely different way,
Speaker 1: and I realized, huh, I just never paid it tension
Speaker 1: to this before. So I think that that's part of
Speaker 1: what's happening right now with people's global awareness is as
Speaker 1: more things are coming out in this community and from
Speaker 1: shows like ours, people are starting to become aware of
Speaker 1: more of these things, and then it changes their perception
Speaker 1: and it has this one hundredth monkey effect, right bro?
Speaker 2: For sure? Great? Great call. Connect with the one hundred
Speaker 2: monkey effect. Yeah. Yeah, it's the reticular activation system, the RAS,
Speaker 2: and the prefrontal cortex, I believe in the brain where
Speaker 2: when you want to purchase something, you start seeing that
Speaker 2: product everywhere when you never saw before. So there's something
Speaker 2: to that too. So I don't know, it's it's that's wild.
Speaker 1: Do you feel about what's unfolding with our financial systems
Speaker 1: and this reality that seems to be constantly teetering on
Speaker 1: the edge of a cliff and with constant threats of
Speaker 1: a global crash and global chaos that would soon that
Speaker 1: would soon follow after this financial situation that is constantly
Speaker 1: looming but constantly never happening to the extent we think
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, how do you see this unfolding?
Speaker 2: Well, I've been looking at the symbols of the dollar,
Speaker 2: the eye of Providence. I was talking about the sound
Speaker 2: pacua eyes and the beginning a little bit how underneath
Speaker 2: means that there's troubles coming its way, and symbolically or
Speaker 2: at the top, it's like I'm going crazy. And the
Speaker 2: eye of Providence on the dollar bill it's got the
Speaker 2: Sumpacua eyes underneath, which I just noticed, and I'm like, dang,
Speaker 2: so was that like just calling for the collapse? The
Speaker 2: symbolism on the dollars absolutely nuts, and the symbolism of
Speaker 2: crypto is absolutely nuts. So on the back of the
Speaker 2: dollar is a pyramid which has seventy two bricks, which
Speaker 2: is the tetra kits in Jamatria. You write the name
Speaker 2: of God and equal seventy two within this pyramid if
Speaker 2: you look up Bitcoin in Damatria, just like how their
Speaker 2: Jamatria is on the dollar bill pyramid the tetra kits.
Speaker 2: If you look at that in bitcoin, Bitcoin and Jamatria
Speaker 2: equally two as well. And on the seventy second day
Speaker 2: bitcoin hit seventy two thousand dollars. So like symbology going
Speaker 2: into the new system of blockchain us d C all
Speaker 2: that USDC us CBDC. Yeah, we could see it with
Speaker 2: the cash app guy. The symbology their PayPal or even
Speaker 2: fed now is an or boris. So I'm always looking
Speaker 2: at the symbolism. But the main thing is that you
Speaker 2: got the alpha president, George Washington, the first president in
Speaker 2: an omega logo. So it's the alpha and the omega,
Speaker 2: and Omega is the twenty fourth letter of the Greek alphabet.
Speaker 2: It's the last letter. And we're in the year twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. So I think that there is a connection
Speaker 2: to all this for a collapse of the currency. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's already collapsed, like we're like in inflation. The inflation
Speaker 2: is going to get worse and worse. We're about to
Speaker 2: hit a commodity supercycle. Looks like through recognition of every
Speaker 2: twelve years or something like the last commodity supercycle was
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, the year of the Dragon. We're in
Speaker 2: the Year of Dragon now and we can see golds
Speaker 2: at all time high. We might be seeing oil hit
Speaker 2: like ten dollars because of what's going on in the
Speaker 2: Strait of Hermose in the Middle East and whatnot. And
Speaker 2: it's all bringing us into some some new system. And
Speaker 2: me and you we grew up with cash, credit cards,
Speaker 2: debit cards, but that's fairly new. Like people were trading
Speaker 2: like eat like the like a penny, it's copper, right,
Speaker 2: and then all the dollars were silver like that was
Speaker 2: like the thing, and we're so far away from that,
Speaker 2: but we don't realize that wasn't that long ago. That
Speaker 2: was you know, they got they took us off the
Speaker 2: gold system the day the Illuminati was founded May first,
Speaker 2: which is weird, and that wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 1: Man, there's a lot happening. I want to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on the upcoming political side show that we're going
Speaker 1: to experience, and maybe some of the symbolism that you've
Speaker 1: seen leading up to everything that might indicate what we
Speaker 1: could experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're come up on the forty seventh president.
Speaker 2: This is very symbolic and Freemasonry. It's the forty seven
Speaker 2: Masonic compass, going back even further to I always say
Speaker 2: pronounce it wrong, but Euclid's the forty seventh proposition problem
Speaker 2: or whatever important number. America was created by Freemasons, and Washington,
Speaker 2: DC is on these free Masonic lines. So the symbology
Speaker 2: is and it's down important for America. The forty seventh
Speaker 2: President would be a very symbolic president and who will
Speaker 2: that be? You know it kuld Bekomala, even if she's
Speaker 2: not elected, because she has posted a lot of free
Speaker 2: Masonic symbolism during her presidency, and the predictive programming of
Speaker 2: movies and shows like House of Cards or Veep where
Speaker 2: there's female forty seventh president. In House of Cards, the
Speaker 2: main president gets taken out and then his wife becomes
Speaker 2: the president. So that could be symbolic predictive programming. It'd
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how it plays out. But the
Speaker 2: forty seventh president, it's very symbolic for sure.
Speaker 1: It seems like we have more of an effect on
Speaker 1: the outcome of everything than we could ever realize. I
Speaker 1: believe we are creator beings and we in a sense
Speaker 1: can manifest outcomes in our reality, and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: ultimately up to us to make our own future. We
Speaker 1: have to check out and stop relying on these other
Speaker 1: scumbags to create our reality when we have the to
Speaker 1: do it. We've allowed them to be in office, We've
Speaker 1: consumed their poison, we've eaten their food, we participate in
Speaker 1: some of their agendas as we watch their Hollywood movies,
Speaker 1: and I think it's time that we need to start
Speaker 1: checking out from all of that and maybe making our
Speaker 1: own systems and movies and everything that we can rely
Speaker 1: on ourselves. And this is really what these times are
Speaker 1: forcing people to do. So it's like you said, I
Speaker 1: think there's something cosmic going on that's really leading us
Speaker 1: in this direction to ultimately free ourselves in a way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's it's like I said the beginning,
Speaker 2: there's only two things that I am in control of.
Speaker 2: That's my attitudes and my actions. That's it, you know,
Speaker 2: And so knowing that I don't need to control other
Speaker 2: people like a tyrant, like, oh, you gotta believe what
Speaker 2: I believe, you gotta think what I think. You know,
Speaker 2: it's I'm only in control of those two aspects, that's it. Like,
Speaker 2: so it all knowing that's so I don't need to
Speaker 2: go to control the world. A lot of people that's
Speaker 2: what they want to do. They want to control the
Speaker 2: way you think. Even in the the alternative truth world,
Speaker 2: it's more tyrannical sometimes than the mainstream world because yo,
Speaker 2: you believe this period. If you don't, you're done right.
Speaker 2: Rather than dialogue discourse, put the information out there. So
Speaker 2: it's a very leftist like. That's everything's pointing to this
Speaker 2: whole leftist ideology my research so far. I mean, it
Speaker 2: could change. But and that's not just me, that's other
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Speaker 1: Right, Doughnut. This has been a delicious, delicious conspiracy buffet.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We're gonna have to do this
Speaker 1: again for show. Now before you head out, remind everyone
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Speaker 1: Awesome man. We will do it again, like I said,
Speaker 1: And until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
Speaker 1: talk again tomorrow. Must see how then today I want
Speaker 1: to welcome Max Hawthorne. He is an American author and
Speaker 1: screenwriter referred to as the Prince of paleo fiction. He
Speaker 1: is best known for his Chronos Rising series of sci
Speaker 1: fi suspense thrillers, which have garnered both Book of the
Speaker 1: Year and People's Choice Awards. He is also a singer, songwriter,
Speaker 1: advocational paleontologist, cryptid researcher, IGFA, world record holding angler, and
Speaker 1: a voting member of the Author's Guild. Max. Welcome, how
Speaker 1: you doing.
Speaker 3: I am awesome. It is such a pleasure to meet you,
Speaker 3: and I can't thank you enough for having me.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be fun. We're gonna actually discuss some of your incredible
Speaker 1: personal encounters, which you have video evidence of on your website,
Speaker 1: which is temporarily under maintenance. We'll let the audience know
Speaker 1: all about that. We'll have some links form in the
Speaker 1: description as well. You're also a longtime writer and researcher
Speaker 1: of high strangeness and encounters with cryptids and other beings.
Speaker 1: It's just some of my favorite topics. We've got a
Speaker 1: lot we can get into today before we get too far.
Speaker 1: This is your first time on. Tell the audience about yourself,
Speaker 1: your background, and what led you to this kind of
Speaker 1: work and research.
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, So I am an author by trade. I
Speaker 3: write the award winning Cronus Rising series of sci fi
Speaker 3: thrillers which have been Actually the hashtag Jaws meets Jurassic
Speaker 3: Park was actually originated in relation to book one in
Speaker 3: the series, Cronus Rising, and the story is basically about
Speaker 3: a giant prehistoral marine reptile the size of a whale
Speaker 3: that is set loose in the off the coast of
Speaker 3: Florida and proceeds to do what any giant predator will
Speaker 3: do in a new environment, explores domain, established dominance, look
Speaker 3: for mates, things like that, death and destruction follows and
Speaker 3: all that stuff. It was a pretty cool book and
Speaker 3: won a Book of the Year award, and I was
Speaker 3: quite happy with it. But that's what I do regularly.
Speaker 3: I've also done a horror Christmas thriller called The Sleigh
Speaker 3: sl E I G H Gosh, Memoirs of a Gym Rat,
Speaker 3: which you say, raunchy and shocking expos and all the
Speaker 3: dirt that goes on behind the scenes in many gyms,
Speaker 3: possibly yours, kind of a survival guide, and even a
Speaker 3: children's book called I Want a Tranna Source for Christmas,
Speaker 3: which is one of my personal favorites. Side in terms
Speaker 3: of ending up with the whole crypto thing, I mean know,
Speaker 3: over the course of my life, I've had a couple
Speaker 3: of very unusual encounters my own, as you mentioned, but
Speaker 3: I didn't really get into it a lot until I
Speaker 3: was doing more and more research for the Cronus Rising series,
Speaker 3: which it was available on Amazon or Cronus Rising dot com.
Speaker 3: I guess I'll shamelessly plugged that. But anyway, and with
Speaker 3: the course of doing that research, I ended up doing
Speaker 3: a lot of cryptid sightings research for the book. You know,
Speaker 3: you want to create plausible deniability for your audience type thing.
Speaker 3: So I looked into a bunch of research about like
Speaker 3: a U boat that saw what appeared to be a
Speaker 3: sixty foot moses or during World War two, I believe
Speaker 3: it was, and lots of other stuff. Eventually, I had
Speaker 3: met so many people when I'd done so much research,
Speaker 3: I ended up writing a book called Monsters and Marine Mysteries,
Speaker 3: which was my first Amazon number one bestseller, believe it
Speaker 3: or not, and that has everything from research on mega
Speaker 3: sharks and believe it or not, there are sharks out
Speaker 3: there the size of the one from Jaws three. I've
Speaker 3: collected evidence and everything, even on the YouTube channel and
Speaker 3: everything megasquid octopuses beginning to eat whales, you name it,
Speaker 3: it's in there. I interviewed people from who had experiences
Speaker 3: in the seventies that nobody even knows they're still alive.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just great. And eventually though this
Speaker 3: led into some of my own encounters, and then about
Speaker 3: a year and a few months ago. Things got even
Speaker 3: more complicated when I had ended up getting an amazing
Speaker 3: entity on film behind a house where I was staying
Speaker 3: in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, and well, you know the rest
Speaker 3: because you sort of seen a video and it just
Speaker 3: kind of spiral right right there.
Speaker 1: And now, when it comes to your interest in these cryptids,
Speaker 1: especially in the vast depths of the ocean, you have
Speaker 1: a lot of inspiration from being a world record holding angler, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I first started fishing when I was I think five.
Speaker 3: My dad my parents took me and my sister to
Speaker 3: stock trout like river stream or whatever it was. Caught
Speaker 3: my first rainbow trout. I mean to me, it was
Speaker 3: like this big, but I think it was really about
Speaker 3: that big. But when you're five, you know, it might
Speaker 3: as well be a yard long. And so I've always
Speaker 3: had a passion for that. And obviously my dad was
Speaker 3: a rock count, so I was surrounded by fossils and
Speaker 3: I grew up with the I mean, you're pretty young.
Speaker 3: So when I was a kid that we have these
Speaker 3: things called the Prestor Scenes Model series by Aurora. They
Speaker 3: really snapped together model kits and they were great. I
Speaker 3: mean they're classics and vintage now everything from a Trannosaurus
Speaker 3: Rex to a wooly mammoth. So I grew up building
Speaker 3: all those and working at the Cabinatra Sciences in Philadelphia
Speaker 3: and stuff, and it all kind of built together. So
Speaker 3: it gives you a passion for prehistoric life and as
Speaker 3: well as for the water. You know, it's like sort
Speaker 3: of like the Forrest Gum thing. You know, you drop
Speaker 3: your line down there, you never know what you're gonna get,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like dating Internet, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, before we get to your encounters, were there
Speaker 1: any stories? Are others personal encounters that you came across
Speaker 1: us in your research that really stuck out for you,
Speaker 1: that propelled you into these realms?
Speaker 3: Further, well, there was one which I wish it made
Speaker 3: it into the book, which it didn't. But I was
Speaker 3: doing a brief blocktalk radio show of my own where
Speaker 3: I got to interview a gentleman named Alfriswell and his
Speaker 3: uncle had seen gosh, I don't remember the date it was,
Speaker 3: wee decades ago, but a creature that we were calling
Speaker 3: the Red Sea Serpent, and it appears to have been
Speaker 3: an enormous pleasius orbson kind. I mean, like all the
Speaker 3: evidence indicated, and I mean big. This thing's neck was
Speaker 3: man like this thick is a barrel. It had a
Speaker 3: big head, huge long neck, and it actually serviced beside
Speaker 3: a boat where him and a bunch of his friends
Speaker 3: were fishing together. And it was a small boat, so
Speaker 3: they were quite intimidated. This thing must have been I'm
Speaker 3: going to get sixty feet long if you included a
Speaker 3: body to go with that long neck. At first they
Speaker 3: thought it was a giant snake, but eventually the evidence
Speaker 3: suggested they they had an account with the enormous pleasis
Speaker 3: or that was attracted to the bait they were putting
Speaker 3: in the water, you know, the fish blood, the guts,
Speaker 3: and all this other stuff like that. They would catch fish,
Speaker 3: they'd flate him, throw the organs over the side. They
Speaker 3: were unwittingly putting out a huge chum trail, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And this encounter was incredible. And the thought that there
Speaker 3: might be pleasius who are still alive, like a tiny
Speaker 3: relic population eking out in existence. I found that very intriguing,
Speaker 3: especially considering I write books about giant pliosaurs and things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: Well, with the vastness of the oceans and how much
Speaker 1: our modern science has not explored some of these levels
Speaker 1: in these depths. It's not hard to fathom that these
Speaker 1: creatures could exist, even what we consider to be ancient
Speaker 1: Paleolithic dinosaur like creatures.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know there are people out there that say, oh,
Speaker 3: he believes pleasysaurs or moss order are still alive and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Do I believe it? No, that would
Speaker 3: be a lie. Do I hope that it's possible. Yes,
Speaker 3: I mean it wouldn't to be perfectly frank. And do
Speaker 3: I think it's impossible they're still alive. No, because they
Speaker 3: were still live at the end of the Cretaceous. See,
Speaker 3: but you know the ideas, I mean the oceans, as
Speaker 3: you were mentioning their vastness, only five percent of the
Speaker 3: ocean floor has been explored. Five percent of the floor.
Speaker 3: That doesn't include the average of eleven thousand or more
Speaker 3: feet above that in terms of the water column. So
Speaker 3: you've got all that you've got to. You know, if
Speaker 3: pleasy stories were still alive, you're talking about a species
Speaker 3: that's entirely marine based. It gives birth to live young
Speaker 3: that would not you know, come crawling in short of
Speaker 3: lay eggs like sea turtles do, et cetera. If one
Speaker 3: of them came to the surface, they don't stick their
Speaker 3: head up in this and look around typically like that,
Speaker 3: like like look at me, like a like a big
Speaker 3: giant duck or goose or something like that. You know,
Speaker 3: their nostrils are up top here. They just service to
Speaker 3: breathe like a whale and go back down. So what
Speaker 3: would you see, you know what I mean? And when
Speaker 3: I was doing research myself for things, they don't blow,
Speaker 3: meaning you know, spout like a whale. There's no sh
Speaker 3: you no giant column the water vapor there. When you
Speaker 3: see a sea turtle or a crocodile service for air,
Speaker 3: they just it's like little bubbles that come up as
Speaker 3: they're approaching the surface. It's hardly any disturbance at all.
Speaker 3: So you wouldn't have anything to draw your eye to
Speaker 3: something like that as well. And they ingest gasterliths, which
Speaker 3: are stomach stones for buoyancy, which means that when they
Speaker 3: die and the air comes that their lungs they're negatively buoyant,
Speaker 3: their bodies would automatically sink, so you're not going to
Speaker 3: have something bloated and floating on the surface. Even so,
Speaker 3: the odds of even finding a carcass before it gets
Speaker 3: scavenged and torn to pieces and completely you know, rotted away,
Speaker 3: are again very very small. But you know, hope, Springy Turtle.
Speaker 1: Before we get to your very profound recent encounter that
Speaker 1: you were able to get on film, had you had
Speaker 1: any other personal encounters with things that you really couldn't
Speaker 1: explain what they are? Even out on the ocean, Yes.
Speaker 3: I mean the ocean stuff. Everything we're about to talk about.
Speaker 3: This stuff is all in Monsters Marine Mystery. So if
Speaker 3: everybody wants all the details, they're in there, the photos,
Speaker 3: the graphics, the drawings, all that stuff. Gosh, let me think.
Speaker 3: I think the first one I had, which I don't
Speaker 3: want to get into too much detail in it because
Speaker 3: that's a very houring experience and so fantastical that I
Speaker 3: was there and I don't believe it. But when I
Speaker 3: was like nineteen, I had a bad habit. During the
Speaker 3: full moon, I thought, I guess I thought I was cool.
Speaker 3: You know, oh, full moon and it's midnight, you know,
Speaker 3: all summer, every time it was a full moon, I
Speaker 3: would take our Doberman and I would go. We lived
Speaker 3: in southwist Philly, and I would go down into a
Speaker 3: cemetery called Mount Mariah Cemetery and go walk through the
Speaker 3: cemetery with the dog, you know. And so one time
Speaker 3: I was doing that, and I guess something was waiting
Speaker 3: for me or something, and I started hearing this sound,
Speaker 3: this like sound, and it's getting really creepy, and it
Speaker 3: sounded like something, you know, and you can start to
Speaker 3: feel it through the soles of your feet, like something
Speaker 3: was clawing at the earth or something like that. And
Speaker 3: believe it or not, you know, I got a certain
Speaker 3: point and I was right on this gravel path by
Speaker 3: the edge of this hill, and then something literally burst
Speaker 3: out of the ground in front of a tombstone about
Speaker 3: ten feet.
Speaker 4: In front of me.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and I, if I wasn't nineteen and very
Speaker 3: fit and lean, I might have had a heart attack
Speaker 3: and died on the spot, okay. And I stared at it,
Speaker 3: and I looked right at it, and I blinked multiple times,
Speaker 3: trying to clear my vision to make it go away.
Speaker 3: And I tried to convince myself that it was a
Speaker 3: groundhog or a swirl or a rabbit that took that
Speaker 3: wrong turn at Albuquerque. As bugs, buddy say, you know,
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and you think, but it wouldn't go
Speaker 3: away no matter what I tried to do. And I
Speaker 3: was looking right at it, and it was actually an
Speaker 3: actual hand, a big It was a right hand gray.
Speaker 3: It had four fingers and a thumb. It was pale,
Speaker 3: and it had like this weird like loose sort of
Speaker 3: like skin like it was like wrinkly and like saggy
Speaker 3: a bit, and the nails were very very jagged, and
Speaker 3: I guess that was from digging. And it literally burst
Speaker 3: through the ground and and then it like went like
Speaker 3: this like after it did that, it was like kind
Speaker 3: of like this, and I think it was resting because
Speaker 3: it was tired, because you know, soil is very heavy
Speaker 3: and all that. And I just I was just like
Speaker 3: like terrified, and I literally went like, feet don't fail me. Now.
Speaker 3: I actually said that feet don't fail me. Now. I
Speaker 3: saw in a Clint East movie and I dove down
Speaker 3: this hill which had a slope like that, and I
Speaker 3: was running down a hill and I was so terrified.
Speaker 3: Everything was moving in slow motion. I mean I was
Speaker 3: dodging trees and ducking under branches and leaping over boulders
Speaker 3: and all this stuff, and it was move cause they
Speaker 3: were coming at me slow, Otherwise I would have run
Speaker 3: into something and just killed myself. You know, I was
Speaker 3: running Sofia as the dog was choking behind me, being dragged. Okay.
Speaker 3: And if you're running Sofia as a doberman can't keep
Speaker 3: up with you, you know you're scared. Okay. I ran
Speaker 3: all the way home. I had to stop once my
Speaker 3: collapse in the middle of the forest. I got up,
Speaker 3: looked back to if it was coming. If it was,
Speaker 3: I would have died again of a heart attack. Ran
Speaker 3: all the way home. Whatever. It was a horrible experience
Speaker 3: and I never went back, and I have no desire
Speaker 3: to go back. But when I researched her for the book,
Speaker 3: I found, like, you know, unexplained murders in the cemetery
Speaker 3: and a bunch of other stuff. So that is crazy,
Speaker 3: not my not my favorite hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine geese.
Speaker 3: And people say, oh, he's making that up. He was high,
Speaker 3: he was lying. Whatever you think what you want, okay,
Speaker 3: I mean, no sane person would make well, I guess
Speaker 3: people would make up a string of that. But it's
Speaker 3: like I said, it was so fantastical. I don't want
Speaker 3: to believe it myself, and I was there, okay. And
Speaker 3: the hilarious part was when I got back to the house,
Speaker 3: I was so terrified. I was grabbing like garlic powder
Speaker 3: and sprinkling all myself so I wasn't tasty and stuff
Speaker 3: and collecting bibles and crucifixes and all this stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And my brothers were mocking me, the two of them,
Speaker 3: and they were like, come on, you just imagined it.
Speaker 3: You made it up. I am like, no, no, nope,
Speaker 3: and they're like, we're going to go right now, we
Speaker 3: know the area, We're going to go right to the spot.
Speaker 3: You're going to show us and we're going to prove
Speaker 3: to you that, you know whatever. And I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not going. I'm not going back. I am never
Speaker 3: rowing back. No, no, no, no, I said, you guys go,
Speaker 3: I'll describe the stone. He was a big of the
Speaker 3: old dark gray granite stone. And I said, and you know,
Speaker 3: i'll tell you know, you go, I said, and when
Speaker 3: you don't come back, and I went, and you won't,
Speaker 3: I said, I will tell mom what happened to you.
Speaker 3: And then they looked at each other and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden they didn't want to go right, you know,
Speaker 3: so damn which was a wise decision because you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what this thing was, but you know,
Speaker 3: I got the impression it was looking for a snack
Speaker 3: and Max is not on the menu.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. And that's what I love so much about
Speaker 1: this show is people that come on and share these
Speaker 1: profound experiences so that others who've had experiences and are
Speaker 1: too scared or they don't want to put themselves out there,
Speaker 1: maybe they'll have the courage to start to share with
Speaker 1: others because it really it's healing in a way. It
Speaker 1: helps other people to validate their own stories.
Speaker 3: Right see this, Look at this. This is forty years
Speaker 3: later almost, and my hand still shakes when I relive
Speaker 3: it in my head. Okay, that tells you something, all right,
Speaker 3: that that you know, that's the scariest thing that's ever
Speaker 3: happened to me. And I've had some scary things happened
Speaker 3: to me in my life, you know. So let's get
Speaker 3: to including being shot at it, okay, and that was
Speaker 3: like nothing compared to those.
Speaker 1: Wow, you know it's all right, Let's get to some
Speaker 1: of your more recent encounters where you were actually able
Speaker 1: to commit some of this to video evidence. Tell us
Speaker 1: about when and where this situation occurred.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're talking about for the site. Okay, let me
Speaker 3: just give a quick intro then, for the sight of people.
Speaker 3: I have been blessed to be able to get some
Speaker 3: amazing things on video, and I have started, uh after thought,
Speaker 3: putting out a series of documentaries for everybody to see.
Speaker 3: I don't put them on YouTube because YouTube just makes
Speaker 3: money of people and pays peanuts literally peanuts. Okay, But
Speaker 3: so it is a pay per view type of thing,
Speaker 3: but it is not expensive. The subscription is only nine
Speaker 3: ninety nine a month, and if you just want a
Speaker 3: two day rental to watch a video, it's the price
Speaker 3: of a Starbucks coffee, let's say, or something. Okay, But anyway,
Speaker 3: so the but the website is normally Maxhawthorn dot com. Okay,
Speaker 3: but the site is being revamped, as Chris knows so,
Speaker 3: and it will be a few days. So if you
Speaker 3: see this and you go on there and you see
Speaker 3: a black screen because my guys did not put up
Speaker 3: a sign like they should have, there's nothing to panic about.
Speaker 3: What you should do is go to my author's site,
Speaker 3: which is Cronus Rising dot com k r o n
Speaker 3: os Rising dot com. And just click on to sign
Speaker 3: up for the newsletter. Once you're on the newsletter, as
Speaker 3: soon as the site is revamped and backup live, et cetera,
Speaker 3: I'm going to send out a mass email for everybody
Speaker 3: on the list. You'll be able to go on check
Speaker 3: it out, join if you want, whatever makes you happy,
Speaker 3: et cetera. Okay, so that's that's the story first. So
Speaker 3: in terms of that, so we get any.
Speaker 1: Time and we'll have links for both those sites right
Speaker 1: easily accessible in the description.
Speaker 3: Cool, there's like I said, there's going to be a
Speaker 3: series of these videos. The first one that's on there
Speaker 3: is called Caught on Camera, and it features footage of
Speaker 3: entity which appears to be an extraterrestrial. It was filmed
Speaker 3: by myself two februaries ago, so about fourteen months ago,
Speaker 3: let's call it. And what happened is what led up
Speaker 3: to this, let's put it that way, is that back
Speaker 3: in November of twenty sixteen, to be exact, there was
Speaker 3: a the first like aw, what modern cryptid experience I had?
Speaker 3: You know, if we don't count that thing in the cemetery,
Speaker 3: as I call it, but where my daughter and I
Speaker 3: she was only seven at the time, while we're driving
Speaker 3: home from daycare and an evening. It was nighttime, late November,
Speaker 3: I think it was November twenty second of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: I had to check and like blustery night, some snow
Speaker 3: flourries not but they weren't sticking and driving along through
Speaker 3: this development in a wooded area, and we saw something
Speaker 3: on the road ahead of us, which I thought initially
Speaker 3: was a box, and I said out loud, I said, oh,
Speaker 3: I said, we've got something on the road, like a
Speaker 3: piece of debris whatever, you know. So I slowed to
Speaker 3: a crawl and I approached it with the intent of
Speaker 3: straddling this box, which was about you know, just about
Speaker 3: the a big and straddling because obviously if it was
Speaker 3: a box of nails or something like that, you don't
Speaker 3: want to run it over. You know, nobody wants to
Speaker 3: blow out and you know, the middle of the night
Speaker 3: or something like that. So as I started getting close
Speaker 3: to it, the box started to move and it got taller,
Speaker 3: and of course, explaining it away, I dismissed it as
Speaker 3: being it was windy, and this was the box's flap
Speaker 3: was like rising up up, but it was not. It
Speaker 3: was some little creature and it was sort of like
Speaker 3: pushing itself like upright like that. It had apparently been
Speaker 3: face down on the asphalt. And I think it was hurt.
Speaker 3: In fact, I'm sure it was hurt. You know. I
Speaker 3: thought it maybe hit a power line or an owl
Speaker 3: took a swipe at it, you know, or something. A
Speaker 3: friend suggested it might have been hit by a car
Speaker 3: or banged into a car or something like that. But
Speaker 3: it was hurt, and it was lying in the street,
Speaker 3: and I guess when it had a you know, an
Speaker 3: suv that weighs five pounds of headlights coming at it,
Speaker 3: you know, it got you know, what can I say,
Speaker 3: motivated to move, So it was put it pushed itself upright,
Speaker 3: and it and I stopped, and I think it was
Speaker 3: about twenty feet from my headlights at this point, so
Speaker 3: pretty close, okay. And then it kind of like like
Speaker 3: shrieked at me or something like that. I wouldn't say rored,
Speaker 3: because it was small, so I wouldn't think it'd be
Speaker 3: a roar. But it had had this look on its
Speaker 3: face like like like kind of like wait, I guess
Speaker 3: like like that, okay. And it was dark gray and
Speaker 3: a dark gray skin and blackish eyes. And a blackish
Speaker 3: mouth and uh recent like a flatish nose or whatever
Speaker 3: and stuff and it behind the head was like all
Speaker 3: this like bristly stuff like I don't know, it was
Speaker 3: like a mane or some I don't know what. But
Speaker 3: and I was just looking right at it, and it
Speaker 3: reminded me of the homunculus from like the old Simbad
Speaker 3: movie or something like that, you know, seriously, and it
Speaker 3: had like, uh, my brain shut over for a second,
Speaker 3: but it was so yeah. But it was like like
Speaker 3: like but it was making noise and you know, it
Speaker 3: was either scared or angry or both. And I couldn't
Speaker 3: hear it was you know, the door was closed, okay,
Speaker 3: but I was staring right at it, and I'm thinking, oh,
Speaker 3: its head was about the size of an apple, okay,
Speaker 3: like a you know about yay big like that kind
Speaker 3: of thing. Like it wasn't huge, but uh and I'm
Speaker 3: looking at it, and my brain was like fast forwarding
Speaker 3: through the animal kingdom. I mean, I've seen so many
Speaker 3: animals in that area, you know. I kind of felt
Speaker 3: like in the Cronus Rising series, there's this computer system
Speaker 3: called Archimedes, where if you give it a sample like
Speaker 3: a tooth or a bone or a tissue or something
Speaker 3: like that. It can analyze and tell you what member
Speaker 3: of the animal kingdom you found. So my brain was
Speaker 3: doing an archimedes thing rolling through there and a possum,
Speaker 3: no groundhog, no squirrel, no rabbit, no that. I could
Speaker 3: not figure out what I was looking at. And this
Speaker 3: old this was happening very quickly, and so I I'm
Speaker 3: looking at and I went.
Speaker 1: Like, what the hell is that?
Speaker 3: And I don't normally use expothis in front of my
Speaker 3: seven year old. It just kind of slipped out and
Speaker 3: as I said that, it sprang up into the air
Speaker 3: and it had wings, I believe it or not, Like
Speaker 3: wings like shot out like this, And if I'd had
Speaker 3: a dash cam, I would have been like on every
Speaker 3: news channel after that. Okay, And these wings flew out
Speaker 3: and it had a wing stand I'm going to say
Speaker 3: three to four feet, So the wings were very large
Speaker 3: in comparison to the body like proportions. You know, Like
Speaker 3: you know, if you say, oh, like a guy six
Speaker 3: feet told and he has twelve foot wingspan, that person's
Speaker 3: not getting off the ground, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 3: you know, you would need like a twenty foot wingspan
Speaker 3: at least or something like that. But this thing had
Speaker 3: like but they were like insect wings. This was the
Speaker 3: crazy part. There was two of them, two sets. They
Speaker 3: were the same size, not like dragonflies, were one slightly
Speaker 3: larger than the other. And they were like elongated ovals
Speaker 3: like that, and they were vibrating like a hummingbird does,
Speaker 3: like and holding position. And the crazy thing was, or
Speaker 3: the weird thing was that as it was illuminated in
Speaker 3: my headlights, its appearance was different. On the ground, it
Speaker 3: was this dark, gray, briskly looking thing. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 3: don't want to sound offensive, but you know, you know,
Speaker 3: like like something that if you grab it would bite
Speaker 3: your finger off, okay, or something like that, you know.
Speaker 3: And in the air it had more of this like
Speaker 3: ethereal quality, was kind of silvery and white and much
Speaker 3: more attractive looking. And the wings which and I think
Speaker 3: this was courtesy of the headlights, like the light as
Speaker 3: they were like vibrating, was like shimmering around the edges,
Speaker 3: like glowing like that. But they were transparent and it
Speaker 3: was doing this stuff. Somebody told me maybe it was
Speaker 3: trying to look friendlier, you know, in the air. Maybe
Speaker 3: had noticed that My daughter was there. She was a child,
Speaker 3: so I didn't want to look as scary. I thought
Speaker 3: maybe it was on the ground and it could camouflage,
Speaker 3: and so on the ground it was trying to match
Speaker 3: the asphalt in terms of color, maybe even texture. I
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, or anything like that. But this
Speaker 3: is what happened. And as I said that, what the
Speaker 3: hell was that? And it did that, my daughter goes,
Speaker 3: it's a fairy, Daddy, it's a fairy and she was
Speaker 3: pointing right at it, and then it just like looked
Speaker 3: its head shifted and then went loose, and it was gone,
Speaker 3: and it was an amazing flow lyre, I mean, like powerful,
Speaker 3: And I was just standing with my jaw hanging open.
Speaker 3: And we drove the rest of the way home with
Speaker 3: me talking to myself like you know, this type of stuff.
Speaker 3: And now I'm like traumatized because my whole world just
Speaker 3: got upended, and my brain's going back to the cemetery incident,
Speaker 3: which I thought was some sort of like strgoy vampire
Speaker 3: thing or something like that. You know, I never wanted
Speaker 3: to go back and find out, you know whatever. But
Speaker 3: now I'm thinking our vampire is real? Our fairyes real?
Speaker 3: Are they all real, Like, what the heck is this?
Speaker 3: You know, like, you know, you're shaking up. Okay, Now,
Speaker 3: Bucks County is famous for sightings, cryptids, all sorts of
Speaker 3: stuff from Bigfoot to UFOs to you know, dog Man
Speaker 3: and all sorts of stuff like that, so I guess
Speaker 3: the area also has something to do with it, you know.
Speaker 3: But that's what happened, and so ever since then, we
Speaker 3: walked in the house with me talking to myself, and
Speaker 3: my daughter's like, Mommy, we saw fairy.
Speaker 2: We saw fairy.
Speaker 3: She was so excited everything like that, you know, And
Speaker 3: that was great because you see, in another year, when
Speaker 3: she sort of did not believe in Santa Claus, I
Speaker 3: was able to convince her. I said, but we know
Speaker 3: fairies are real, don't we. She goes, oh, you're right,
Speaker 3: I said, so she goes, so Santa is real too.
Speaker 3: So that brought me another two years or so something
Speaker 3: like that. You know. I think she's a little mad
Speaker 3: about that now, but you know, anyway, So but that's
Speaker 3: what happens. And my point is is that after that,
Speaker 3: I was like on this mission to try and get
Speaker 3: one of these things on video. So I started putting
Speaker 3: trail cameras around the area in the woods behind friends' houses,
Speaker 3: my house, wherever I could trying to get footage and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. And that was back in starting in
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, and I did it on and off, you know,
Speaker 3: like you'd lose motivation or then you get a better
Speaker 3: camera and try that and whatever all this stuff. But
Speaker 3: the my point is that a few months before that happened,
Speaker 3: I think I actually at the same house where this sight,
Speaker 3: the footage is that people are going to see on
Speaker 3: the website. Is that I did get a few frames
Speaker 3: of what I believe was the same species, and it
Speaker 3: was moving so fast that when the camera was triggered
Speaker 3: by the motion, it was like all the way at
Speaker 3: the upper ends there. And I only got like three
Speaker 3: frames of it, but one frame is very compelling. I
Speaker 3: mean you can see like the you know, the head
Speaker 3: is sort of like Et shaped like Et from the
Speaker 3: movies with black eyes, and you see these four big wings,
Speaker 3: although the one in the video seems large than the
Speaker 3: one we saw, but I mean that could have been
Speaker 3: a juvenile or who knows what. So my point is
Speaker 3: is I got that footage after years of effort and stuff,
Speaker 3: and so I was like there again and trying to
Speaker 3: get more, and you figure, Okay, if it's this woods
Speaker 3: where this thing hangs out, maybe it has a nest.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: One of my friends was saying it was a brownie
Speaker 3: and they live in trees in squirrels nests with squirrels
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. And I was like, okay, so,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if I was like buying
Speaker 3: mad either and stuff, but anyway, so but yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what happened, and that led to what ended up with
Speaker 3: me getting the footage that is on the site.
Speaker 1: Now, Now, before we get into that, a lot of
Speaker 1: these cryptids and strange beings are now being studied as
Speaker 1: if it could be part of a similar phenomena when
Speaker 1: we're looking at extraterrestrials or even paranormal activity or even bigfoots.
Speaker 1: There are similar aspects to each of these type of
Speaker 1: experiences at times that people can have, such as the
Speaker 1: being having psychic or telepathic abilities, or disappearing being associated
Speaker 1: with other lights or orbs in the sky. Also, some
Speaker 1: of these entities tend to shape shift or change their
Speaker 1: appearance based on like you said, your daughter was there,
Speaker 1: so it seemingly changed to something more pleasant looking. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about how this phenomenon presents itself. Do
Speaker 1: you think it could be the same thing presenting in
Speaker 1: different ways, or these beings maybe utilizing the same type
Speaker 1: of unseen forces or energies to present themselves, or that's
Speaker 1: just what they normally have access to.
Speaker 3: So the fairy that my daughter and I saw was small,
Speaker 3: I would say it was a foot foot and a
Speaker 3: half tall at most. The entity that's in the video,
Speaker 3: Handsome as I call him, is eight feet tall. Okay.
Speaker 3: In the video I calculated I was estimating seven feet
Speaker 3: based on focal length and things like that. But I
Speaker 3: have one of his footprints and it is sasquatch sized,
Speaker 3: except it as claw marks there, you know, for non
Speaker 3: retractable talents. And I was able to crunch the numbers
Speaker 3: and yes, he's a solid eight feet tall. So he's
Speaker 3: definitely not the fairy, and we can get into exactly
Speaker 3: what he is also. But I believe these beings are interdimensionals,
Speaker 3: which everybody talks about now a lot. They're not like
Speaker 3: you know, some say, oh it's a different vibration, a
Speaker 3: different frequency, whatever, Like we're third dimensional, they're fourth or
Speaker 3: fifth this type of stuff, and that may all be true.
Speaker 3: I mean, there may be worlds within worlds all around us,
Speaker 3: you know, and some areas there's nothing. In some areas
Speaker 3: there's tons, you know. I mean people say like, you know,
Speaker 3: like if I'm sitting in this room right now, and
Speaker 3: the only sounds we hear and things we see are
Speaker 3: you and I and these microphones and our videos. But
Speaker 3: the truth is you and I both know there are
Speaker 3: radio waves who are bouncing all around here. There are
Speaker 3: television signals all around here. That's that or so all
Speaker 3: that stuff, and just because we're not aware of them
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they don't exist. See so, but I believe
Speaker 3: that these beings come from different realms, let's say, and
Speaker 3: they are able to uh travel around here basically unseen,
Speaker 3: either cloaked and or because of their where they are
Speaker 3: type of thing. They can sometimes be seen using a
Speaker 3: thermal cameras or can be caught on infrared cameras. You
Speaker 3: know these are. This is all addressed in the video.
Speaker 3: I discuss the frequency, like the range of what the
Speaker 3: camera is, the near infrared technology that I rely upon,
Speaker 3: what we can see, what other animals can see. There's
Speaker 3: all these different frequencies. So just because our limited range
Speaker 3: of visual ability. You know, says oh there's nothing there,
Speaker 3: doesn't mean it's not there. If you know you have
Speaker 3: you could see more like for example cats, and there
Speaker 3: was a cat that helped me get that initial being
Speaker 3: on video. They can see, for example, an ultraviolet which
Speaker 3: we cannot see, so that enables them to detect things
Speaker 3: that we can't, like ghosts and things like that. Sometimes
Speaker 3: when you see a cat staring at something and you
Speaker 3: think there's nothing there, you may be wrong, you know.
Speaker 3: Or you see a cat playing with something invisible and
Speaker 3: you think, oh, he's just batting around the air, is
Speaker 3: he or is there something actually there? I have some
Speaker 3: amazing footage of things like that also, So I think
Speaker 3: sometimes these beings only get exposed or can be seen sometimes,
Speaker 3: like the fairy, maybe because it was hurt see and
Speaker 3: that way, it was unable to conceal itself. It was
Speaker 3: badly wounded, you know, possibly even dying. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I think that it rendered itself visible because it
Speaker 3: had no choice.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like you like if you're swimming underwater and you're
Speaker 3: holding your breath and then you know, somebody comes up
Speaker 3: and stabs a knife in your ribs. This sounds incredibly violent.
Speaker 3: I apologize you would probably lose your air and drown
Speaker 3: the same type of thing. Okay, that's like I said,
Speaker 3: that sounded horribly violent, So forgive me for that analogy.
Speaker 3: But anyway, but that's just you know, my belief on
Speaker 3: the subject. The entity in the video is using some
Speaker 3: sort of technology to conceal themselves. Whether that's an organic
Speaker 3: thing you know that's part of their makeup, you know,
Speaker 3: comes from their brain or something like that, could be that.
Speaker 3: It could be super advanced technology. I mean, a lot
Speaker 3: of people believe that extraterrestrials have been around for here
Speaker 3: on this planet for hundred or hundreds of millions of years,
Speaker 3: visiting euroth et cetera. So if that's the case, it
Speaker 3: could be an assortment of things. It could be a cloak,
Speaker 3: it could be a portal. You know, you've seen the video, right,
Speaker 3: So when you see it and you see all that
Speaker 3: energy swirling around and stuff like that, if you look
Speaker 3: close and you take time to go through there, you
Speaker 3: see other faces in and around that main being, which
Speaker 3: begs the question and for everybody that's watching, when you
Speaker 3: get to go on there, you know, first of all,
Speaker 3: I suggest you subscribe because the next video, which is
Speaker 3: a phantom cat slash shifter, is going to blow people's minds.
Speaker 3: But we'll get to that. But you know, definitely register
Speaker 3: on the if on the mail us right now at
Speaker 3: Cronus Rising comm and Maxhorthorne dot com. Will be back
Speaker 3: up live in a few days and stuff. But when
Speaker 3: you go on there, you'll be able to take your
Speaker 3: time and flip through frames and you're gonna and you
Speaker 3: look close, you're gonna see stuff. Some person saw a
Speaker 3: dog man, another person saw a grays, another person saw
Speaker 3: I think he said a mothman. Okay, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of beings in there and some stuff you have no
Speaker 3: idea what it is, okay, And then that begs a
Speaker 3: bunch of questions. For example, what are all these other
Speaker 3: faces doing in there?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Are they beings that this entity has met and interacted with?
Speaker 3: Are they disguised as it uses that it has the
Speaker 3: whole choice of, you know, what to appear as you know,
Speaker 3: and is that an illusion or actual shape shifting type thing?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Is that portal like a gate where things can travel
Speaker 3: in and out? And if so, you know, are they
Speaker 3: hoping they can get through it? Maybe they can't be
Speaker 3: us to being that's controlling. It is sort of like
Speaker 3: a gatekeeper and would not allow that type of thing. Okay,
Speaker 3: that type of stuff, but so but yeah, that's my
Speaker 3: thoughts on the generalization.
Speaker 1: It also seems like our perception can be adjusted the
Speaker 1: more we interact with these things, the more we encounter,
Speaker 1: the more we are likely to have another experience in
Speaker 1: the future. I've had plenty of guests that are contact
Speaker 1: these experiencers that have this initial experience with something and
Speaker 1: it breaks open something in their consciousness and now they're
Speaker 1: having all these other experiences up to even being abducted
Speaker 1: and taken on craft. So I believe that your perception
Speaker 1: can shift to where you are able to get more
Speaker 1: and more glimpses of these things. On the other side,
Speaker 1: what do you think.
Speaker 3: I think it's a matter of usually more of their choice,
Speaker 3: meaning I think there are certain individuals that they find
Speaker 3: more interesting. Maybe certain people have latent gifts maybe that
Speaker 3: they're not even aware of that they find interesting or
Speaker 3: intriguing or they're curious about. I believe it varies, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean that a lot of people go with the
Speaker 3: star seed type of thing that you know, there have
Speaker 3: been ets have been manipulating human DNA since time immemorial.
Speaker 3: And if that is the case, and it may well
Speaker 3: be our DNA comes from some of them in different places,
Speaker 3: and maybe some DNA is more interesting than others, you know,
Speaker 3: that type of thing. So there may be something more
Speaker 3: to that, you know, I mean, I I they seem
Speaker 3: to have found me quite intriguing because I've had multiple
Speaker 3: experiences and you know, even if some brief interactions, let's say,
Speaker 3: and stuff and that I think, like in the beginning,
Speaker 3: let me just start off by saying, first of the
Speaker 3: being in the video, the entity whom Michael handsome, okay,
Speaker 3: jen people should not be alarmed, is of reptilian ancestry. Okay.
Speaker 3: That does not make him some evil monster or invader
Speaker 3: or anything like that. There are good reptilians. There are
Speaker 3: bad reptilians, just like there are good people and bad people.
Speaker 3: You know, we see that day in day out in
Speaker 3: the news, et cetera. So human beings are capable of
Speaker 3: you know, the works of Michelangelo or the works of Manala. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, you've got a huge spectrum there. I far
Speaker 3: prefer the former and the latter. Unfortunately, these days, we
Speaker 3: seem to have a lot of the latter running around. Okay,
Speaker 3: but anyway, so and I would also point out so
Speaker 3: but he is Reptilian of ancestry and he uh like
Speaker 3: in terms of sorry, I didn't have a lot of
Speaker 3: sleep last night, so my brain's not firing in all cylinders.
Speaker 1: But well, maybe tell us a little bit more about
Speaker 1: how you encountered this particular being in the interactions with.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that'll work. So what happened is the night
Speaker 3: in question, This took place around four something in the morning.
Speaker 3: I think it's It's on the video in the documentary,
Speaker 3: and I made a point to analyze the video for
Speaker 3: everybody and go through a step by step and make
Speaker 3: sure everybody understands this is not swamp gas or a
Speaker 3: weather balloon you know, with teeth or anything like that. Okay,
Speaker 3: you've seen it, so you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: But so what happened is is a bit of a
Speaker 3: night owl. There are some nights where I just don't
Speaker 3: get a lot of sleep.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Somebod's from being a writer. Some ito it's from being
Speaker 3: your mind not being at a rest. Sometimes it's from
Speaker 3: crazy things happening. Who knows what, but in this particular
Speaker 3: instance there, Yeah, it was around four something in the morning,
Speaker 3: and this cat that was in this house kind of
Speaker 3: getting very excited at something at the window, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And I had had a trail camera fixed to a
Speaker 3: deck post out there at the top of a short
Speaker 3: flight of stairs, and I had to kind of point
Speaker 3: it out, covering like part of the woods, the tree
Speaker 3: line and the lawn back there. And my hope was
Speaker 3: that when one of these wing things, which is what
Speaker 3: I was expecting, you know, flew out of the tree line,
Speaker 3: I was hoping to get footage. So then I decided, Okay,
Speaker 3: if he's excited, maybe one of those fairy things is
Speaker 3: out there, you know. So I figured, let me go
Speaker 3: out there and I'm gonna, you know, see if I
Speaker 3: can see it with my own naked eyes and stuff,
Speaker 3: you know. So I went out there, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to trigger the camera, so I was
Speaker 3: like kind of like hovering above it and behind it,
Speaker 3: like on the stairs there, and you could feel like
Speaker 3: this weirdness in the air. It was very still, and
Speaker 3: then it was like this cold like a cold wave
Speaker 3: like comes over you like that. And I believe this
Speaker 3: is caused by the cloak that is being used. You know,
Speaker 3: it kind of like drains thermal energy or something like that,
Speaker 3: and the like you could see in the video, like
Speaker 3: when it's being filmed, the temperature was a certain temperature,
Speaker 3: but as he backs away from me, the temperature rises
Speaker 3: up immediately several degrees, so you could there's proof there
Speaker 3: right away. As they pour the cliff runs out that
Speaker 3: that cold front, let's call it, is there. There's also
Speaker 3: a sort of feeling like almost like I don't know,
Speaker 3: some sort of magnetic thing or static electricity, like if
Speaker 3: you rub your forearm and a balloon and then the
Speaker 3: hair stands up if you puld it close to it,
Speaker 3: something like that. Okay, so I thought, like, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe one of these fairies is going to burst out
Speaker 3: of the tree line. So I did what I call
Speaker 3: flashing the camera, meaning I leaned over and I took
Speaker 3: my hand. I went in front of it real quick
Speaker 3: like that to trigger it to start recording. And then
Speaker 3: I waited and I looked, and I looked, and I
Speaker 3: didn't see anything, and it was get a little creepy
Speaker 3: out there, and the hair is in the back of
Speaker 3: my neck. Are starting to stand up, and I decided,
Speaker 3: you know, I've done enough for one night, you know whatever,
Speaker 3: and and I went back inside. Okay. And in the
Speaker 3: morning though, following day, when I brought the camera in,
Speaker 3: it had you know, it had that footage, you know,
Speaker 3: and you see how it is there. And at first
Speaker 3: it looked like something had obstructed the lens or something
Speaker 3: like that, you know. But I went through all the processes,
Speaker 3: and the more I looked at it, I realized that
Speaker 3: the whole screen was this swirling field of energy. That's
Speaker 3: what it looks like, like plasma or something like that,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's moving in Let's see, if you
Speaker 3: were above the enity looking down, it's moving counterc wait,
Speaker 3: clockwise clockwise, yeah, clock goes this way, I think, right, yeah, yeah, clockwise,
Speaker 3: like it's swirling like this, okay. And the more I
Speaker 3: stared at it, the more I thought, that really looks
Speaker 3: like energy or energized fog or something like that. And
Speaker 3: it was intriguing, and so I started trying to like
Speaker 3: figure out what exactly was going on there. So then
Speaker 3: I started playing around with contrast and stuff, and increasing
Speaker 3: the contrast to see what would happen. And all this
Speaker 3: for everbody watching, you'll see yourself first in the video.
Speaker 3: As the investigation proceeds. Step by step, everything is explained.
Speaker 3: So you know, there's no AI or CGI or anything
Speaker 3: like that. There's you know, I'm very straightforward. You know
Speaker 3: there's no hoaxing here. But and so as I increase
Speaker 3: the contrast, the field shrenk. You know, now, when you
Speaker 3: increase contrasts for people that don't know this contrast increasing
Speaker 3: makes dark starker and lights lighter. See. So for example,
Speaker 3: if you had a film like an infrared film or
Speaker 3: near ir film in this case of like a light
Speaker 3: bulb or a lamp on the side of somebody's house,
Speaker 3: you would see like the brightness around the light near
Speaker 3: the edge of the house and stuff like that, and
Speaker 3: the bulb would be the brightest part. The more you
Speaker 3: increase that contrast, and more that field's going to shrink
Speaker 3: train strain, until eventually you might end up with just
Speaker 3: a light bulb's stillette pure white, understand, with everything else
Speaker 3: being almost black or black around it. Okay, So when
Speaker 3: I increase the contrastate of fifty percent, the field shrenk
Speaker 3: and now has sort of become humanoid in shape and
Speaker 3: then I increased it to eighty percent, and then it
Speaker 3: became undeniably human in shape. It was like one of
Speaker 3: those profile pictures you see people on social media that
Speaker 3: don't have a profile pick, you know, and it has
Speaker 3: the head, the neck, and the shoulders sort of like that. Okay.
Speaker 3: In fact, if you and i'll you want me to
Speaker 3: send you, I guess we don't have time to I
Speaker 3: should have thought this ahead of time. But this is
Speaker 3: pre recorded, so if I send you an image, we
Speaker 3: would be a yeah, sert, I can't do that, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna send you his image. So let's say
Speaker 3: you have the image up right now. Okay, this is
Speaker 3: like a sample frame, one of the you know, the
Speaker 3: not the juicy frames. All the good stuff is obviously
Speaker 3: reserved for the documentary. But if you look at that frame,
Speaker 3: you can see automatically there's a silhouette of something there
Speaker 3: in that, and you can see some hints that there's
Speaker 3: some sort of shape inside of that. Okay. So once
Speaker 3: then I started messing around, going through frame by frame
Speaker 3: or toggling every couple frames and stuff, and about midpoint
Speaker 3: through I saw a face and I stopped and I
Speaker 3: looked at it and I looked again, I'm like, what
Speaker 3: am I looking at here? You know, and it was this.
Speaker 3: This is like my favorite part of the video, which
Speaker 3: I called the grimace shot, and I called it the
Speaker 3: grimmat shop because the expression on the entity on Hansome's
Speaker 3: face is one where like he's grimacing and not in pain.
Speaker 3: To me, this is more of the look like like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get in trouble with this, I know it.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm on video, like I'm gonna get written up,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get suspended, I'm gonna get fired something to
Speaker 3: that effect. Okay, because you see early on when you
Speaker 3: first see him, he's looking off to the right, like
Speaker 3: his right, my left, and then he turns and I
Speaker 3: think there's a moment and I pointed out where his
Speaker 3: eyes pop and I think he realizes there's a trail
Speaker 3: camera pointing at him, you know, so that's indicated also,
Speaker 3: and then you see that. Then we get to this
Speaker 3: a couple of the shots and then this grimace shot
Speaker 3: where he's like leaning back like like like that and
Speaker 3: everything and then he turned, you know, then he starts
Speaker 3: to back away or whatever, and the thing like feel
Speaker 3: sorts of suck in on itself. And unfortunately the thirty
Speaker 3: second clip ends at that point, so we don't see
Speaker 3: him completely disappear, but you can see he's backing away
Speaker 3: and you see the temperature coming back up, you know,
Speaker 3: without him being super closed.
Speaker 4: Et cetera.
Speaker 1: Right now, did you have any progressing events after this
Speaker 1: that were connected to this?
Speaker 3: Be oodles? Actually, But I want to point one other
Speaker 3: thing out. When you guys are watching the documentary, and I'm,
Speaker 3: you know, very sincere about this, these guys, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: are more like observers and or guardians, you know. I
Speaker 3: think they're sent to observe people sometimes to even protect people,
Speaker 3: believe it or not, and there is evidence to back
Speaker 3: that up. So there, I don't want people thinking, like,
Speaker 3: you know, he's not a monster, he's not some mindless thing.
Speaker 3: You can see from his behavior in here that he
Speaker 3: is an emotional being. You know, he's capable of experiencing surprise,
Speaker 3: you know, like like angst, like like uh you know,
Speaker 3: like like you know, like face palm, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it, et cetera. Okay, so that's the first thing.
Speaker 3: The other thing is is he looks very scary and
Speaker 3: the images there and the reason for that is that
Speaker 3: this field, whether it's a portal, whether it's a just
Speaker 3: a cloaking device of sorts, whatever it might be, in
Speaker 3: order for him to remain invisible, it appears to function
Speaker 3: by stripping away the image like an MRI or a
Speaker 3: cat scan. I've said this on interviews before. So when
Speaker 3: you see him, it's like the tissue has been stripped away,
Speaker 3: like if you as if you were like in front
Speaker 3: of an X ray or something like that. So there
Speaker 3: are parts of the video where and you've seen it,
Speaker 3: where it looks like a skull almost, and there are
Speaker 3: parts of the video where there's more meat on the bones,
Speaker 3: et cetera. So even the Grimma shot, the epidermis appears
Speaker 3: to have been stripped away, so you can see like
Speaker 3: the scaly tubercles on the brow ridge and stuff. You
Speaker 3: can see the heavy cheek bones and the jaw, and
Speaker 3: you could see like the you know, the teeth which
Speaker 3: are sharp and stuff. But you know, it comes to
Speaker 3: the territory. But my point is is he looks far
Speaker 3: more menacing than he would be normally if he was
Speaker 3: fully clothed. Let's say, just because if you and I
Speaker 3: were sitting here talking and I was missing all my skin,
Speaker 3: I would be pretty frightened me, you know, like something
Speaker 3: from a hell Razor movie. Okay, So I just want
Speaker 3: to point that out the people so they don't start
Speaker 3: thinking like, oh, this is you know, this type of stuff,
Speaker 3: because I have a follow up video where I have
Speaker 3: images of him fully scaled, you know, and he's much
Speaker 3: more enigmatic appearing and such, and you know, with people's
Speaker 3: fears at rest, like I should say so, but yeah,
Speaker 3: so you were, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I was asking about your your further interactions with
Speaker 1: this being and some of the events that followed.
Speaker 2: Well there.
Speaker 3: I think there are at least two of them that
Speaker 3: you know, we're in that area. And I say that
Speaker 3: because at one point, for example, I was in my house,
Speaker 3: in my office, and my house bluts the woods. It's
Speaker 3: not as heavily wooded as like the you know that area,
Speaker 3: let's say, but uh, and one of our big Siberians
Speaker 3: was at the window and it was like summertime and
Speaker 3: he was like he wanted out there. He was like,
Speaker 3: I see something exciting. I want to get to it.
Speaker 3: And I heard like these two I don't like to
Speaker 3: say creatures because I find that like could be a
Speaker 3: negative term. But let's just say two creatures are two
Speaker 3: entities to whatevers. We're out there and they seem to
Speaker 3: be talking back and forth, and it was like just
Speaker 3: sort of like deep clicking and stuff like and then
Speaker 3: like back on four type stuff, and I was like,
Speaker 3: and ol Off could see something, he could see them,
Speaker 3: and he, you know, he wanted to out there, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, nope, nope, nope, it's way too big for you, buddy.
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm like thinking, I'm like, if they're
Speaker 3: thinking I'm going out there, I'm not stupid. I'm not
Speaker 3: going out there, So you can forget it, you know,
Speaker 3: that type of thing I was, you know, back then,
Speaker 3: I was still a little wary of them, you know,
Speaker 3: in terms of like their whole game plan and then
Speaker 3: persona that type of stuff. But I don't think they
Speaker 3: were happy in the beginning that I had the footage.
Speaker 3: I think they went on this scare campaign to kind
Speaker 3: of intimidate me a bit and get me to back
Speaker 3: off and stuff like that, because you know, and you're
Speaker 3: easy to find, just so as you know, like once
Speaker 3: you know, like they know who you are whatever and stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like like here we can go online
Speaker 3: to a search and find people. I'm sure for them,
Speaker 3: it's infinitely more simple. But like one time, I was
Speaker 3: like in bed and I was like rut in full
Speaker 3: of sleep, and I was like half awake, and then
Speaker 3: something roared in my ear. This year, I was lying
Speaker 3: on the side and it was definitely trying to skim
Speaker 3: it almost sound like a lion, you know. And I'm
Speaker 3: like a crabby person when I sleep. I don't like
Speaker 3: being bothered because I don't get enough sleep. And I
Speaker 3: literally just looked over my shoulder and I told whoever
Speaker 3: was there to go blank their mother. I understand, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're not going to use that on here, but I
Speaker 3: literally said it, and I would imagine he must have
Speaker 3: been like, wow, he ain't afraid of no ghost, you know,
Speaker 3: this this type of stuff, et cetera. But there were
Speaker 3: a few creepy incidents like that. But then it's sort
Speaker 3: of like calmed down, and there are a few practical
Speaker 3: jokes and stuff, you know, which were funny and annoying
Speaker 3: is anything, et cetera and all that. But I think
Speaker 3: after they, you know, were observing me and seeing what
Speaker 3: I was working on and seeing that this was a
Speaker 3: very scientific type of study and very impersonal and none
Speaker 3: of this you know, spreading you know, misinformation or fear
Speaker 3: or anything like that type of stuff. You know, I
Speaker 3: don't try. I'm not trying to sensationalize anything, you know,
Speaker 3: I just told it the way it is.
Speaker 1: So now other but you know, I'm sorry. I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, other than the footprints that you were
Speaker 1: speaking of earlier and the strange manifestations that would occur,
Speaker 1: have you come across any physical evidence that these beings
Speaker 1: have left behind?
Speaker 3: Well, first off, I have several other videos, infrared videos
Speaker 3: of them, and I think one of them, like I said,
Speaker 3: was a practical joke. One where he came up on
Speaker 3: the camera. Wasn't him. It was the one I call Smiley,
Speaker 3: And that's because of what he did. And he approached
Speaker 3: the camera with his cloak and everything. And the cloak
Speaker 3: was very intense this time. It was very hard to
Speaker 3: see through it. I mean you can see some stuff
Speaker 3: here and there, but it was much more fortified than
Speaker 3: the first cloak. Okay. And and then like he smirked
Speaker 3: right at the camera and you only get like half
Speaker 3: his face like this half okay, but it's there, Okay,
Speaker 3: you know, cheak contracted big smirk, almost like a joker,
Speaker 3: that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It was a little intimidating to be honest, because again
Speaker 3: back then I didn't know what they were up to, Like,
Speaker 3: was this like a threatening smirk? This is all going
Speaker 3: to get you smirk? It was just like haha, prato
Speaker 3: a joke where you can't see this cloak thing, ha ha haa,
Speaker 3: Like you know, were they experimenting to see what was
Speaker 3: visible was not? I didn't know, you know, So there's that. Also,
Speaker 3: the footprints were very interesting because they appear to be
Speaker 3: hunting deer there because I've got a little clips one
Speaker 3: in that exact same spot literally like thirty feet those
Speaker 3: tract of thirty feet from this camera and the night
Speaker 3: before where a deer had was standing there in the infrared.
Speaker 3: And it also the turns and for no reason it
Speaker 3: runs for its life. It says something, but there's nothing
Speaker 3: there to see. That couple with the tracks being right there,
Speaker 3: you know, strongly suggests that that you know, one of
Speaker 3: them was hunting deer for you know, sustenance that type
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 1: Have you had any other beings that you came into
Speaker 1: contact with besides this particular reptilian.
Speaker 3: A few. Yes, the let's put it this way. The
Speaker 3: next video, like I mentioned, is going to be a
Speaker 3: phantom cat and uh oh yeah, this one was great.
Speaker 3: They called them, yeah, British big cats and or alien
Speaker 3: big cats whatever. Yeah, people keep reporting, you see sometimes
Speaker 3: in the news. I just saw one in Bucks County,
Speaker 3: like in the last year, where they showed footage in
Speaker 3: some park and somebody filmed a very large black cat
Speaker 3: from a distance and the police said they couldn't find
Speaker 3: any evidence of it and they said it was probably
Speaker 3: just a big house cat. Well, you know, I have
Speaker 3: footage of one of these things up close and personal,
Speaker 3: and I know what it is, and it's not a
Speaker 3: cat at least not all the time a cat. Let's
Speaker 3: put it that way. And but that's going to be
Speaker 3: the next documentary. So yes, I've had encounters with some things,
Speaker 3: and some have been pleasants, I've been less than pleasant,
Speaker 3: et cetera. But you know, I try and run a
Speaker 3: tight ship. I make sure, like you know that I
Speaker 3: don't want my house being invaded or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I don't want anything lurking around the house or anything
Speaker 3: like that. You know, And usually if you put out
Speaker 3: like rules with these type of things, you know, they're
Speaker 3: usually follows. I think I believe they function with a
Speaker 3: code of conduct. Let's put it that way, because if
Speaker 3: they don't have rules, et cetera, how would I have
Speaker 3: gotten away alive with the footage, let alone multiple footages?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Without? You know, I should
Speaker 3: be dead. You know, if they were like monsters or
Speaker 3: you know, had no laws or anything like that, you know,
Speaker 3: they were just want to cover things up, you know, oh,
Speaker 3: get rid of them, you know, this type of stuff.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, I'm old and fat, and
Speaker 3: you know I'd be easy.
Speaker 1: Do you have any further insights into what we're experiencing
Speaker 1: with these shape shifting animal creatures. I've had plenty of
Speaker 1: researchers and experiancers talk about not only big cats that
Speaker 1: seem to be etheric and shift into different things at times,
Speaker 1: but coyotes and dogs and other animals that seem to
Speaker 1: appear but appear in different ways. What do you think
Speaker 1: is going on with these things?
Speaker 3: I think that this is probably some of these interdimensional
Speaker 3: creatures that get out of portals, slip past you know,
Speaker 3: whoever's requarding them, let's say, or something like that. You know,
Speaker 3: maybe they're not supposed to be running around and they're
Speaker 3: running around the woods and feeding on animals and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and they're legitimate shifters. They can change into
Speaker 3: different things like a cat or a canine, like a fox,
Speaker 3: maybe a hyena, different things like that. You know, they
Speaker 3: can change appearance, you know, that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: So they can most likely take on a physical properties
Speaker 1: when they're in our realm or our dimension, and when
Speaker 1: we're seeing them possibly between dimensions, they seem to be
Speaker 1: more etheric at times. Do you think that's what's happening.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's that they are either physically here
Speaker 3: or they're like leaving, coming or going that type of thing.
Speaker 3: But they're definitely I think these shifters are definitely able
Speaker 3: to physically be here because if you're going to pray
Speaker 3: on a deer or some other animal, you need to
Speaker 3: be physically here in order to do it. See that
Speaker 3: type of stuff. So people told me that hunters are
Speaker 3: been attacked by them, you know these I mean, Doylestown
Speaker 3: is famous for dog man sightings, and Doylestown is in
Speaker 3: the general area you know where I live, or at
Speaker 3: least not too far of a drive. You know, you
Speaker 3: google it online, you'll see all these sightings of dog
Speaker 3: Man in that type of you know, it's the area Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: Some of them are eight or nine feet told, they say.
Speaker 3: You know the couple instances I read where families were
Speaker 3: coming home from high school. You know, the mom picked
Speaker 3: up the kids and she's got two teenagers in the cars,
Speaker 3: driving down a country road or whatever, heading home, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, this upright canine runs across the
Speaker 3: road right in front of them and twenty feet into
Speaker 3: the trees. Twenty feet into the trees. Okay, and the
Speaker 3: whole family sees it. You know that can't be a
Speaker 3: guy in a suit who's jumping twenty feet into trees.
Speaker 3: You know, I haven't done that. Even when I was
Speaker 3: scared and running from the thing of the cemetary, I
Speaker 3: didn't do that. I could have run on water. I
Speaker 3: was moving so fast, you know, but not that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, right now, it's very interesting. Even though there's
Speaker 1: a lot of fake videos and AI and nonsense going
Speaker 1: on out there, we have some incredible footage like that
Speaker 1: of yourself that is being put out right now. And
Speaker 1: we have more and more people that are seemingly coming
Speaker 1: into contacting and experiencing things like this. Do you think
Speaker 1: this is because we have access to this technology on
Speaker 1: a regular basis and more people are becoming curious and
Speaker 1: actually capturing these things, or do you think it may
Speaker 1: be something that is happening more and our collective perception
Speaker 1: may be opening a bit.
Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of things. I think that
Speaker 3: our technology is improving that we're able to see more.
Speaker 3: Number One, I think that some people are becoming more
Speaker 3: open to the topic and are being becoming more observant
Speaker 3: and not dismissing things that they might normally have dismissed before.
Speaker 3: And I think that the government is starting to realize
Speaker 3: that it's sand against the tide and things are going
Speaker 3: to eventually come out, you know, no matter how much
Speaker 3: they might not want it to. And I believe that
Speaker 3: a lot of these beings want to see the human
Speaker 3: race improve and evolve in a more positive way. And
Speaker 3: maybe they're trying to, you know, in dribs and drabs,
Speaker 3: make people aware too, without spreading mass hysteria things of
Speaker 3: that nature.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: The stuff I have is very methodical, very analytical, very
Speaker 3: science orient you know, and that's what I try to do.
Speaker 3: I mean, there be there will be trolls out there
Speaker 3: to say, oh, he's a pseudo scientist. That's like calling
Speaker 3: somebody a conspiracy theorist these days, you know, I take
Speaker 3: that as a badge of honor. But the truth of
Speaker 3: the matter is, this pseudo scientist solved the mystery of
Speaker 3: pleases or locomotion. This pseudo scientists solve the reason as
Speaker 3: to why those pleasers had long necks. And this pseudo
Speaker 3: scientist is the one that pointed out that figured out
Speaker 3: that the megelon shark as an adult was pretty much
Speaker 3: a scavenger. I did all that, okay, in my spare time,
Speaker 3: as if I had so much of it. Okay. So
Speaker 3: all these paleontologists that get in a huff because you know,
Speaker 3: they do this for a living and went to school
Speaker 3: for it and all this other stuff, and then here
Speaker 3: comes poor little Max Walthorne right in his Cronus Rising books,
Speaker 3: and he solves a mystery you could in over one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty years. I'm sorry, but wouldn't you rather
Speaker 3: people know than not know? You know?
Speaker 1: I love it, I mean, people like yourselves, So just
Speaker 1: doing the research and doing the work and surpassing anything
Speaker 1: that a lot of modern academiian science could never achieve.
Speaker 1: So we're in incredible times right now.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's also a matter that sometimes people
Speaker 3: sciences blind themselves to what's possible. You know, it's the
Speaker 3: whole Okham's razor thing and all that. But there's also
Speaker 3: what Sherlock Holmes said, and I'm probably going to quote
Speaker 3: this wrong, but when you're trying to solve a mystery,
Speaker 3: and you you know, eliminate all the possible, whatever remains,
Speaker 3: however improbable, must be the truth. They use that in
Speaker 3: Star Trek also, you know, Si Spock said it at
Speaker 3: one point. So if you take that, you know, if
Speaker 3: you look at like this first video, and you take
Speaker 3: away the fact it's not rain, it's not missed, it's
Speaker 3: not fog, it's not a weather balloon, it's not a
Speaker 3: light reflection off the lens, you know, this type of stuff,
Speaker 3: et cetera. You know, you have to realize eventually that
Speaker 3: you're looking at this is an actual being with an eyes,
Speaker 3: no eyes, nose, mouth, vertical slits for pupils, teeth, et cetera.
Speaker 3: You know, it's an actual being, Okay, an entity. It's
Speaker 3: not you know, my imagination or wishful thinking, and it's
Speaker 3: not a hoax. I really I hate hoaxers with such
Speaker 3: a passion. I have seen people out there, like, you know, claiming, oh,
Speaker 3: they caught a megadon shark, you know. Oh, they post
Speaker 3: like a photo of it and everything, like tied up
Speaker 3: to the side of a boat, and then you find
Speaker 3: that it was a dead white shark that was photoshop
Speaker 3: on the same photo somewhere and stuff like that, or
Speaker 3: people that say, oh, I've got this photo and here's
Speaker 3: a dog man and he's carrying a woman over his
Speaker 3: shoulder and it's a black blob and you're like, where
Speaker 3: is the I don't I see a black blob, you know,
Speaker 3: And you're trying to like hypnotize me, and they're believing
Speaker 3: that that's real, you know. And I've seen these shows
Speaker 3: and I took the image because I'm very good with images,
Speaker 3: as you know from seeing the documentary, and I tried
Speaker 3: lightning it, changing all this stuff, and all the time
Speaker 3: it's just a black blob. It's very suspicious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So well, this is incredible work you've done.
Speaker 1: Everyone needs to go check out your website. Max Hawthorne
Speaker 1: dot com when it is back up, like you said,
Speaker 1: you'll have that newsletter so everyone will know. And the
Speaker 1: videos and the documentary is incredible. I highly recommend all
Speaker 1: of that. Is there anything else that you're working on
Speaker 1: that the audience can expect to be seeing soon?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, first I just want to remind everybody. First
Speaker 3: thing you want to do is go to Cronus Rising
Speaker 3: dot com and just subscribe to the newsletter. This way
Speaker 3: I can let everybody know when the site's backup, so
Speaker 3: you guys can go on there. That's the first thing.
Speaker 3: In terms of like the tentative schedule for the documentaries
Speaker 3: that are pending, there is the Phantom Cat one is
Speaker 3: next and that's going to surprise and shock a lot
Speaker 3: of people. So that's next. There is going to be
Speaker 3: a follow up on Hansome's video with additional footage there.
Speaker 3: There is going to be a Mothman one. I have
Speaker 3: actual images of a mothman in flight footage infra red. Okay,
Speaker 3: I also have close ups one or two of them,
Speaker 3: and uh, let me put it this way.
Speaker 4: Uh all right, Sorry, no offense, dude, But if you're
Speaker 4: listening anyway, and then there's gonna be uh Smiley's video
Speaker 4: when he came and he you know, looked right into
Speaker 4: the camera and smirked at all that stuff like that
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of great stuff coming. I'm going
Speaker 3: to turn these out as fast as i can, but
Speaker 3: obviously quality control being what it is, et cetera. So
Speaker 3: you know, you go to the site. I recommend this.
Speaker 3: This the nine dollars subscription and you'll have unlimited views.
Speaker 3: You'll be able to watch everything as it comes out,
Speaker 3: all at the same time, whatever, as many times as
Speaker 3: you want.
Speaker 1: All that excellent.
Speaker 3: You know you won't be missing out. And like I said,
Speaker 3: this stuff is the real deal. That's the there make
Speaker 3: no bones about it. There's no hoaxing, there's no juxtapositions,
Speaker 3: there's no you know, it is what it is and
Speaker 3: and it's real and it's it's incredible and welcome to
Speaker 3: everybody that decides to you know, sign.
Speaker 1: Up, yes, check that out. Definitely see for yourselves. Max.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. This was fantastic. There's so much
Speaker 1: more we can discuss. I'd love to have you back
Speaker 1: on in the future before you head out, remind everyone
Speaker 1: about those sites one more time.
Speaker 3: Sure, Thank you so much. Chris and by the way,
Speaker 3: it was my ultimate pleasure. I can't thank you. So
Speaker 3: the regular site, which is, like I said, being revamped
Speaker 3: right now, is Maxwalthorn dot com. So you see my
Speaker 3: name right there in the left corner there. You just
Speaker 3: put a dot com on that that'll take you there.
Speaker 3: But right now when you see it, you're gonna see
Speaker 3: the black screen of death as I like to call it,
Speaker 3: because these guys did not put up a thing to
Speaker 3: let people know, even though I sent out an email afterwards.
Speaker 3: So right now your best bet is just to go
Speaker 3: to Cronus Rising dot com. You can go on there.
Speaker 3: You can see all the books. There's free downloads if
Speaker 3: you want to take advantage of himself. There's a palaeo gallery.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of great stuff, So enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3: That's my author's site. Okay, but register for the newsletter
Speaker 3: and that'll all be synced up and I will let
Speaker 3: everybody know when that's out, and you'll also get updates
Speaker 3: when the new videos are coming they're released, and any
Speaker 3: other if there's any prize is being given up too.
Speaker 3: Oh and one last thing. On my Facebook page, there's
Speaker 3: a group I do, two of them. One is the
Speaker 3: Cronus Rising novel series, which is an actual fan page.
Speaker 3: I don't run it, but it has a lot of
Speaker 3: great stuff on it, share from other groups and from
Speaker 3: the other group. But I have a group called Monsters
Speaker 3: and Marine Mysteries. It's on there on Facebook. So you
Speaker 3: want to sign up for that if you can. Because
Speaker 3: every Thursday, assuming I remember because I'm a little stunad,
Speaker 3: but I'm doing what i call thermal Thursdays, and I'm
Speaker 3: sharing a thermal I've taken of lord knows what okay
Speaker 3: each Thursday, so you'll be able to go on there
Speaker 3: and see what we're looking at. Is that a gray?
Speaker 3: Is that you know? A repillion? Is that? What the
Speaker 3: heck is that? You know? I've got some wild stuff
Speaker 3: and plenty to share and obviously that's on the house.
Speaker 1: Excellent Max, Thank you again. We'll do it again soon
Speaker 1: and until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
Speaker 1: talk again tomorrow and we'll see y'all all then.