Speaker 1: It's night Side, Dan Ray. I'm bas Boston News Radio.
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Speaker 2: We will talk later on tonight, beginning at nine o'clock
Speaker 2: about there's a huge problem with the Registery of motor
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Speaker 2: explain all of that beginning at nine o'clock. That is
Speaker 2: not a topic for this hour. We did touch upon
Speaker 2: it last night, however, when we talked with the representative
Speaker 2: of Triple A, and we'll get to that. Also, we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about this high stakes battle between President
Speaker 2: Trump and Harvard University. Lots on the line, and now
Speaker 2: as a third person in the ring, we had the
Speaker 2: state of Maine if we were thinking of it in
Speaker 2: terms of Wrestlemaney. We'll talk about that from ten o'clock,
Speaker 2: probably until midnight, depending upon what you'd like to do.
Speaker 2: But first off, we are going to go to tonight's
Speaker 2: on Night Side News Update, and we are going to
Speaker 2: start off this evening with Lisa Krassner. She's the executive
Speaker 2: director of the Conquered Museum, and I suspect Lisa's going
Speaker 2: to be pretty busy up at the Concord Museum between
Speaker 2: now and between now and about a week from now.
Speaker 2: How are you this evening?
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Dan for having me doing great.
Speaker 3: We are firing in all cylinders here and Conquered.
Speaker 4: It's a busy time, so excited.
Speaker 2: Yes, how long have you been the executive director? Of
Speaker 2: the Concord Museum. I mean, I hope you haven't been
Speaker 2: just thrown into this job like the middle of last week.
Speaker 2: How long you've been up there.
Speaker 3: Oh, I've been the director of the Conquered Museum for
Speaker 3: two and a half years. I've worked in museums now
Speaker 3: for twenty six years. So I'm ready for the crowds.
Speaker 3: And we like to think of this as you know,
Speaker 3: once in a generation opportunity. Every fifty years, you get
Speaker 3: to really kind of commemorate and celebrate this moment.
Speaker 2: So yeah, most people think of most people think of
Speaker 2: generations in the context of a couple of decades, but
Speaker 2: this is truly this might be once at about two
Speaker 2: and a half generations in reality here so exactly. But
Speaker 2: we were just ranked the number one best small town
Speaker 2: museum by US today, which is perfect timing as a
Speaker 2: matter of fact. And you are going to have a
Speaker 2: free community day, I guess, on the big day itself,
Speaker 2: April nineteenth. So let's chat about that a little bit
Speaker 2: because I'm sure people are going to want to know
Speaker 2: about it. It's going to be a lot of activity
Speaker 2: up in your area. The nineteenth, we remind people is Saturday.
Speaker 2: It's not the day of the Boston Marathon, although that
Speaker 2: is technically Patriots Day, but it is the night of
Speaker 2: the eighteenth and the day of the nineteenth, which celebrates
Speaker 2: things like Paul Revere's ride in the Battle of Lexington
Speaker 2: and conquered. So tell us what's going to be going
Speaker 2: on at the museum.
Speaker 3: Sure, we will be celebrating Patriots Day with Freed Mischional
Speaker 3: Day will be open from nine to five. We'll have
Speaker 3: all of our galleries open where people can see over
Speaker 3: two hundred revolutionary war objects firsthand. I witness objects including
Speaker 3: the famous uh polar veer lantern that was the signal
Speaker 3: lantern for the midnight ride. And we also have a
Speaker 3: new special exhibition open called Whose Revolution that really speaks
Speaker 3: to what it was like to live through revolution and
Speaker 3: center the story around women and children and the indigenous
Speaker 3: community that was here and conquered, as well as freedom
Speaker 3: and slave black. So I'm telling a much more inclusive story.
Speaker 3: So Freed mission all day.
Speaker 2: Well, then, aren't forgotten in all of this? Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: but the man played a kind of a key role
Speaker 2: in this. These events in those couple of days.
Speaker 3: So are April nineteen seventeen, seventy five galleries all on
Speaker 3: our second floor, where there's, like I said, a couple
Speaker 3: of hundred of revolutionary war objects, tells the story of
Speaker 3: the minute Men in great detail from all the towns
Speaker 3: that gathered and conquered and battled through the battle through
Speaker 3: the battle road. We'll also that day be welcoming the
Speaker 3: Bilbrica Colonial minute Man, so we'll have a very family
Speaker 3: friendly encampment of revolutionary living history encampment all day. So
Speaker 3: they'll be out there drilling with muskets and cooking over
Speaker 3: an open fire pit and demonstrating colonial crafts, all to
Speaker 3: be doing leatherwork and broom making and making metal castings
Speaker 3: of musketballs and things like that. So it'll be a
Speaker 3: fun days really.
Speaker 2: That to me is probably one of the most interesting
Speaker 2: aspects of the day that I've read up on this
Speaker 2: day of activity. Is that the sort of day where
Speaker 2: those again they're portrayers, they're.
Speaker 3: People, renactors, yeah.
Speaker 2: Identities, Okay, are they accessible to people to you know,
Speaker 2: like other museums where they can be talked with And
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they stay in there in their
Speaker 2: eighteenth century mode. They certainly would be in their eighteenth
Speaker 2: century Garb tell us about that, will people have a
Speaker 2: chance to interact with them, and will they interact as
Speaker 2: you know Joe Smith from twenty twenty five, who's or
Speaker 2: will they take on roles of individuals from that era.
Speaker 3: Well, they definitely try to capture the spirit of the era,
Speaker 3: but they are there to be educators and to share
Speaker 3: living history, and they very much want to interact and
Speaker 3: be in conversation with visitors. So absolutely, I think they
Speaker 3: try to be very accessible and open, and the idea
Speaker 3: is to learn about what life was like in colonial times.
Speaker 2: So if you go there, either as an individual or
Speaker 2: with a couple, or a family or an extended family,
Speaker 2: you'll really have some great opportunities to interact with history
Speaker 2: from two hundred and fifty years ago. That sounds to
Speaker 2: me like an amazing day.
Speaker 3: Cool family activities and crafts for the day. Also going
Speaker 3: into school vacation week from April twenty first of the
Speaker 3: twenty seven, so after Saturday, we'll have a wonderful week
Speaker 3: of school of educational programs for families, and then we're
Speaker 3: gonna sort of the day will proceed. We'll have a
Speaker 3: wonderful forum that evening with Doris Karns Goodwin, the you know,
Speaker 3: really such a significant historian in our culture. And she'll
Speaker 3: be in conversation with Rosy Rios, the chair of America
Speaker 3: to fifty. So we'll have a forum that evening that'll
Speaker 3: be live streams and we'll have a concert afterwards out
Speaker 3: on our lawn. So very full day, very full day.
Speaker 2: Let's we've talked about it, We've given people a good
Speaker 2: sense of it. How what if we do this? What
Speaker 2: is the best way people can get to your website
Speaker 2: in sometime tomorrow or Friday, sit down and plan their
Speaker 2: interaction with you folks on Friday or Saturday. What's the website?
Speaker 3: The website is Conquered Museum dot org, so definitely check
Speaker 3: out our website. We have a visit page. We also
Speaker 3: have a to fiftieth page as well, full of activities
Speaker 3: for the day and then also getting out here. We
Speaker 3: encourage people to take public transportation if they could take
Speaker 3: the train, and then they'll also be parking in areas
Speaker 3: around Conquered and then shuttle buses taking people into town
Speaker 3: because the center of town will be pedestrian only in bicycles,
Speaker 3: so there'll be no cars in the center of town.
Speaker 3: So we encourage people to check out our website Conquered
Speaker 3: Museum dot org, but also the Conquered Town website too
Speaker 3: has more information in terms of maps and parking as well.
Speaker 2: The only thing that I can say is thank goodness
Speaker 2: that the Minutemen on the night of the battle head
Speaker 2: horses and not bicycles through a lot of pons, and
Speaker 2: I hope there's some horses there too. Thanks so much, Lisa.
Speaker 3: So much.
Speaker 2: We look forward to celebration and a wonderful weekend. I
Speaker 2: really I'm envious of everyone who's going to have an
Speaker 2: opportunity to get out there. This is as close as
Speaker 2: I'm going to come to it. But just enjoy the
Speaker 2: heck out of the weekend because it'll be another fifty
Speaker 2: years before you, or perhaps the successor we'll oversee the
Speaker 2: three hundredth anniversary. Congratulations, Lisa, appreciate it so thank.
Speaker 3: You so very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: All Right, we get back on to talk about an
Speaker 2: award winning documentary entitled Unspoken, Would You Hide Me? It's
Speaker 2: the story of seven Jewish siblings who survived the Holocaust
Speaker 2: with the help of German strangers. So this is going
Speaker 2: to be an emotional conversation, right after the break. My
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Speaker 2: Would like to welcome Marcie Bracken She is the co
Speaker 2: founder of Pink Cheer Storytellers Magazine, but she's here to
Speaker 2: talk about a film called Unbroken, Would You Hide Me? So,
Speaker 2: first of all, Marcy, let's create and establish what is
Speaker 2: the relationship between the magazine that you co founded, Pink
Speaker 2: Chair Storytellers Magazine and this what looks to me like
Speaker 2: an incredible film, Unbroken, Would You Hide Me? A Holocaust documentary?
Speaker 2: Can you what's the relationship between the two?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, first, thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Pink Chair Storytellers Magazine is a collection
Speaker 5: of women's stories, so all told by the women themselves,
Speaker 5: first person. And back in twenty twenty two, we had
Speaker 5: a conversation with Beth Lane, who is the filmmaker, production
Speaker 5: and director originator of the film Unbroken, and she was
Speaker 5: originally just in production, she was filming, she was doing
Speaker 5: her research, and we're super excited that we've been able
Speaker 5: to come full circle with her and now the film
Speaker 5: is ready, it's out, it's being screened across the country
Speaker 5: at all different film festivals, award winning, and we're excited
Speaker 5: that through us and Pink care Storyteller's Magazine were able
Speaker 5: to bring it here to Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the film. It is entitled Unbroken, Would
Speaker 2: You Hide Me? It's a Holocaust documentary. As I understand
Speaker 2: the story of seven Jewish siblings who somehow survived the
Speaker 2: Holocaust and with the help I guess of what we're
Speaker 2: called at the time, righteous gentiles German strangers, they were
Speaker 2: able to escape. They survived the Holocaust. Tell us about
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about the film, and also,
Speaker 2: I know, so it's going to be available. I think
Speaker 2: I have a if I'm not mistaken, I have some
Speaker 2: information as to where it's going to be shown. But you,
Speaker 2: why don't you just tell us about it? First of all?
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, So Beth Lane grew up. Her mother was adopted,
Speaker 5: and that was also that was something that was known
Speaker 5: through time. As Beth's mother aged, I guess she had
Speaker 5: a family member who passed away, and that family member
Speaker 5: was very open about their history, their past, and their story.
Speaker 5: And when that family member passed away, her mother decided
Speaker 5: that she was ready to go back to Germany, where
Speaker 5: she was born and where she was raised and revisit
Speaker 5: her story. So Beth's family took a large family vacation.
Speaker 5: They all got together. They all went to Germany and
Speaker 5: they went back to the small town and as part
Speaker 5: of their tour, they arranged to meet the town historian,
Speaker 5: and that town was historian actually decided to surprise them
Speaker 5: and connected that family with the grandson of the schmidt
Speaker 5: couple who had hidden these seven children. So it was
Speaker 5: this really powerful moment. So the grandson of the Schmidtz
Speaker 5: was there and met the family, a lot of tears,
Speaker 5: a lot of emotion, and it suddenly brought the world
Speaker 5: to a much smaller place.
Speaker 2: What was the year of the reunion? What was the
Speaker 2: year of the reunion?
Speaker 5: The reunion was in I believe twenty and.
Speaker 2: Fifteen, Okay, so everyone at that point had I believed
Speaker 2: had grown old because if they were children, you know
Speaker 2: in Germany, you know when Hitler was in power, Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably were well into the seventies or beyond when they
Speaker 2: went back.
Speaker 6: Am I correct this absolutely?
Speaker 5: Absolutely? So forty plus years later, this reunion happens. They
Speaker 5: all go back and it's a powerful moment and the children,
Speaker 5: the seven children, what had happened was is their mother
Speaker 5: was taken from them and brought to Auschwitz, and the
Speaker 5: seven children were told to stay together, which they did
Speaker 5: this couple, the Schmidts, went into town apparently, put all
Speaker 5: seven children in the back of their truck, drove them
Speaker 5: out to a suburban town, suburban farm area, and hid
Speaker 5: them in the laundry room for two years.
Speaker 2: It almost sounds like that, you know, in some ways.
Speaker 2: Obviously not the same, but very similar to the experience
Speaker 2: that Anne Frank had, you know before, before she was discovered.
Speaker 2: I was a television reporter and reported from Auschwitz in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six, so I have a pretty good understanding
Speaker 2: of what they went through. It looks to me as
Speaker 2: if it's one brother and six sisters from the So
Speaker 2: it's amazing, and they stayed together. How did they get
Speaker 2: out of Germany? Or did they waited out until the
Speaker 2: war ended?
Speaker 5: So they eventually got out of Germany with their father,
Speaker 5: who they were still in contact with in some way.
Speaker 5: Their father instructed them to claim themselves as orphans, which
Speaker 5: was very difficult for them because they had been told
Speaker 5: to always stick together. Sure, but when they declared themselves orphans,
Speaker 5: they were then brought to the United States, into the
Speaker 5: Chicago area, and all seven ended up being adopted out
Speaker 5: to different families, but they were separated and It wasn't
Speaker 5: until this film came about that Beth was able to
Speaker 5: bring the remaining siblings back together to be reunited.
Speaker 2: Well, what an amazing story. So they came to the
Speaker 2: United States and I guess grew up here. Were they
Speaker 2: able to maintain contact with one another? Or did they
Speaker 2: just go They did not say they separate ways?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well they went through ways.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: This is such a beautiful film. It's good. It's going
Speaker 2: to be shown in Boston at the Pate or other
Speaker 2: in Hingham at Patriots Cinema on April twenty ninth, And
Speaker 2: I'm just checking my calendar to make sure April twenty
Speaker 2: ninth is a Tuesday.
Speaker 6: Correct?
Speaker 2: Is that the only showing here in greater Boston? Now?
Speaker 5: Yes, that is the only showing in the Boston area
Speaker 5: right now. Beth has really granted us the honor of
Speaker 5: coming back to the Boston area to work with Pinkhare
Speaker 5: Storyteller's Magazine, to come full circle with us and do
Speaker 5: this viewing special for us. Well, I personally, let.
Speaker 2: Me ask you this, if if there are other theaters
Speaker 2: that would be interested in showing the film, how could
Speaker 2: they contact you? Because I'm sure you could. You could
Speaker 2: potentially expedite that, Marcy, how could My guest is Marcy Bracken,
Speaker 2: the co founder of Pink Cheer Storytellers magazine. Is there
Speaker 2: a website that you could direct people to if you
Speaker 2: know they they were owned the theater and they wanted
Speaker 2: to show this, you know film.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, so we are. Our website is Pink Chair Storytellers
Speaker 5: dot com. Very simple. My email dress is Marcie which
Speaker 5: is m A Rci at Pink Chair storytellers dot com.
Speaker 5: And also the Weber Family Arts Foundation that is the
Speaker 5: organization that's helping Beth get this film out, helping her
Speaker 5: to have made the film. But what's going to be
Speaker 5: special about this viewing is that Beth will be there
Speaker 5: on site at the movie and we will be doing
Speaker 5: a question and answer with her, okay after the viewing
Speaker 5: of the movie.
Speaker 2: The April twenty ninth at the Hingham Theater. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the one place that you know you can go
Speaker 2: and see this wonderful story, a horrible set of circumstances,
Speaker 2: but a heartwarming story of seven siblings somehow stay together
Speaker 2: across some space and time. Just on believe, Marcy, I
Speaker 2: appreciate your time tonight. You're a wonderful guest.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Marcy Bracken talking about the new film Unspoken,
Speaker 2: Would you hide me when we get back? Going to
Speaker 2: talk about something a little more upbeat. I guess it's
Speaker 2: a thirteenth annual Down Home up Here Blues Grass Festival,
Speaker 2: Bluegrass Festival. I'm gonna be talking with Maxfield Anderson, who's
Speaker 2: a musician. Get you all the details for that right
Speaker 2: after the news at the bottom of the hour on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Want to welcome Maxfield Anderson, who is a musician. He's
Speaker 2: performing at the thirteenth annual Down Home up Here Bluegrass
Speaker 2: and Old Time Festival on Patriots Day weekend. That is
Speaker 2: a long title for an event. Maxwell, Welcome to Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're not native to the area. Maybe I'm
Speaker 2: wrong on that. Where you're from Maxfield?
Speaker 6: Maxfield, Hey, it's it's great to be here. Thank you
Speaker 6: all for having me on. I am I've been living
Speaker 6: in Boston for the last decade or so. I actually
Speaker 6: grew up in Oklahoma, So yeah, not native to the.
Speaker 2: Area, and you haven't got rid of the U all
Speaker 2: reference whereabouts in Oklahoma.
Speaker 6: I grew up in Tulsa.
Speaker 2: I know Tulsa pretty well. Yeah. I had a great
Speaker 2: friend of mine who was born in a little town
Speaker 2: outside of Tulsa called Big Cabin, Oklahoma.
Speaker 6: I have I have been there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: If you're in Alta, you got to go to the
Speaker 6: Bob Dylan Archives and the Woody Guthrie Archives. They're right
Speaker 6: next door to one another downtown.
Speaker 2: That is in what that's in Tulsa? Or is that
Speaker 2: in Big Cabin.
Speaker 6: That's in Tulsa.
Speaker 2: That's in Tulsa. And also Chelsea. We have Chelsea here
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, but you've got a Chelsea in Oklahoma, the
Speaker 2: Chelsea Dragons, if I'm not mistaken. Buddy of mine played
Speaker 2: played baseball down there and when went onto the major leagues.
Speaker 2: But we'll save that for another time. Let's talk music.
Speaker 2: Let's talk music. So we got this thirteenth annual downholl
Speaker 2: Home up here Bluegrass Old Time Festival, and this is
Speaker 2: gonna be over at Club Passieme in Cambridge. Is that
Speaker 2: it a little different from Oklahoma? Over in Cambridge?
Speaker 6: It is a little different. Yeah, Still, you know, still
Speaker 6: getting that twangy music. Still here in the fiddles play.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The Down Home up Here Festival is a it's a
Speaker 6: really wonderful thing. Passing does it every single year. It's
Speaker 6: always that, you know, usually the third weekend in April,
Speaker 6: and it's a it's a great chance for people to
Speaker 6: hear the amazing live, local bluegrass and old time music
Speaker 6: that we have in Boston. You know, a lot of
Speaker 6: folks don't immediately think of Boston as a hub of
Speaker 6: American roots music, of bluegrass an old time, but there's
Speaker 6: so much of that music here, you know, a big
Speaker 6: part thanks to to Berkeley and their American Roots music program,
Speaker 6: but also places like Passing that you know, give the
Speaker 6: younger artists a platform to hone their craft and to
Speaker 6: gain fans and to have really cool local festivals to play.
Speaker 2: Now, Maxfield, you go by Max and Maxfield.
Speaker 6: Well, professionally I go by Maxfield, but you can call
Speaker 6: me whatever you're comfortable with. Well, Max, what are your
Speaker 6: friends on the internet?
Speaker 2: What do your friends call you? Max or Maxfield?
Speaker 6: It just depends.
Speaker 2: It depends they don't call you, it depends they call
Speaker 2: you Max Maxfield. Come on, no, okay, Well I'm gonna
Speaker 2: call you max. Okay, kid, that's quicker if you don't
Speaker 2: mind that. Great. So you're live it up here for
Speaker 2: ten years. Uh, and you're making a livelihood up here
Speaker 2: as a guy from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Uh as a musician.
Speaker 2: I assume am I correct on that? Yes? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yes, So everything I do is music related. I'm a
Speaker 6: sound engineer at passing, I teach as I perform excellent.
Speaker 2: Well, you know we have a reputation up here in
Speaker 2: Massachusetts of not being the friendliest people in the world.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've probably heard about that. I hope you've
Speaker 2: been welcomed with open arms. Is that true? You guys
Speaker 2: are all right, We're okay, all right, Okay, No.
Speaker 6: No, I I I love it up here. I've been
Speaker 6: here for ten years. You know I would have I
Speaker 6: would have left sooner if you guys were mean.
Speaker 2: So, no, you wouldn't. You wouldn't have stayed if we
Speaker 2: were mean. I'm with you on that. So what's your what?
Speaker 2: What is? What do you? What's the instrument or instruments
Speaker 2: that that that you play?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I am a I'm a multi instrumentalist. My
Speaker 6: main instrument is the mandolin. For any listeners who don't
Speaker 6: know what the mandolin is or are new to roots music.
Speaker 6: The mandolin is basically a tiny guitar and it has
Speaker 6: the same strings as a violin or a fiddle, and
Speaker 6: you play it like a guitar.
Speaker 2: Is that an instrument that arrived here from Spain?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 6: I believe Italy is where they originated in Spain?
Speaker 2: You know they're both throwing countries in Europe, contail one
Speaker 2: from the other.
Speaker 6: Match totally, totally, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But wou tell you that that Wasn't you know that
Speaker 2: that's an instrument out of Europe? Okay, Spain, Italy? That's great?
Speaker 2: What else? What other instrument do you play?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 6: I played guitar, banjo, and fiddle, and I'll be playing
Speaker 6: I think all four of those. Yeah, I'll be playing
Speaker 6: all four of those on Sunday. Wow, that's not at
Speaker 6: the same time, of course, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I get that. I get that. Yeah, I don'tally get that.
Speaker 2: I like your sense of humor. It's kind of similar
Speaker 2: to mine. So, uh, this is an annual event, thirteenth annual.
Speaker 2: You've been involved in some of these, I assume of
Speaker 2: the thirteenth. This is not your first rodeo right, I
Speaker 2: have been.
Speaker 6: I think the first one I did was in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6: I was playing with a bluegrass band called Pretty Sarah.
Speaker 6: I did it during the pandemic. That was it. That
Speaker 6: was an interesting year. Live everybody live streaming from home.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: They kept it going. They just they renamed it down
Speaker 6: Home at Home.
Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, that's good, that's right.
Speaker 6: And every year.
Speaker 2: Is it just one night max or is it every
Speaker 2: night of the weekend?
Speaker 6: So it is Saturday and Sunday night from I believe
Speaker 6: like four to eleven pm both nights. You've got music,
Speaker 6: a new band every hour. And then Monday. Actually, this
Speaker 6: is something they started a couple of years ago. They
Speaker 6: open up the club. It's not a traditional show like
Speaker 6: you're used to seeing at club passing. They move all
Speaker 6: the tables to the side and they have folk leading
Speaker 6: jam sessions. So if you play bluegrass, or if you
Speaker 6: play old time music, or if you just want to
Speaker 6: come out and listen, the club is kind of like
Speaker 6: an open jam space on Monday to cap the festival
Speaker 6: off excellent.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the schedule here. It looks like April nineteenth,
Speaker 2: which I believe is Saturday. If my calendar is correct,
Speaker 2: and it probably is. The first show starts at one o'clock.
Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah, three finger Banjo Workshop.
Speaker 6: And yeah, so the first two shows that you see
Speaker 6: on that calendar there, the one thirty and the one
Speaker 6: and two thirty slots, those are both workshops. So shows
Speaker 6: will start at four. But before that we've got Dunger Workshop,
Speaker 6: Fiddle doughbro and it's like another banjo workshop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the claw hymn of banjo workshop. I think of
Speaker 2: a clawhammer as a tool. But that's okay, whatever you play.
Speaker 2: And so both days, the nineteenth and the twentieth, the
Speaker 2: show's four to ten. The nickets look pretty pretty reasonable here,
Speaker 2: I mean really reasonable. And then on Monday you got
Speaker 2: to show Monday Jams from seven to nine thirty. So
Speaker 2: it's a whole bunch of I could read all of
Speaker 2: these names, and I'm sure you know, you know all
Speaker 2: of them are played with all of them, but some
Speaker 2: of the groups all she wrote Berkeley twenty first century
Speaker 2: String Band, Chris Stry, Dumpster Debbie. I'd like to hear
Speaker 2: Dumpster Debbie. That's a great name. Evan Murphy, great band,
Speaker 2: Liz List Hound and Handler, Joanna Whack Lucy Nelligan, Maxfield
Speaker 2: and Friends. That's gonna be you Makesfield and Friends and Enemies.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you get to decide yourself and you can vote
Speaker 6: at the end. Okay, he's a friend who's the enemy?
Speaker 2: Okay? Uh, Mika, Joan and Lily and Chase, Noah Fowler,
Speaker 2: Cecilia and the Talking Hearts, as well as Trevor Trevan Nelson.
Speaker 2: Are those all local bands? By the way, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you know all of them. Are they all local people?
Speaker 2: Are you bringing them in from different places?
Speaker 6: I believe that just about everybody on here is local
Speaker 6: or at least regional. I think Joanna maybe lives in
Speaker 6: New York, Noah maybe lives in Pennsylvania or Nashville. But
Speaker 6: otherwise everybody, everybody's from around here. Greg List, who's playing
Speaker 6: at six pm on Saturday, is a He is the
Speaker 6: Berkeley banjo professor. You actually might have seen him if
Speaker 6: you watch show The Last of Us as Dan Crooked
Speaker 6: still was just on the last episode and this week,
Speaker 6: and you can catch him at passing and.
Speaker 2: I see the dumpster Debbie, who has the best name
Speaker 2: of everybody, Dumpster Debbie. At nine o'clock on Saturday, Maxfield,
Speaker 2: we'll get back to formalities now. I enjoyed this conversation.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Always nice to meet someone from
Speaker 2: northeast Oklahoma. And I probably won't be there over this
Speaker 2: week and it's got a few other things to do,
Speaker 2: but I'm looking forward to seeing your player over at club.
Speaker 2: I have been to Club Passing before and so I'm
Speaker 2: sure i'll be back at some point. Thanks Max, appreciate
Speaker 2: your time. Okay, if folks give us a website where
Speaker 2: they can get information, we always going to do a
Speaker 2: website here. What's the best way.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so.
Speaker 6: The website is passing dot org. That's passim dot org.
Speaker 6: And for those of you out there who can't make
Speaker 6: it or maybe you're not local, Club Passing live streams
Speaker 6: every single show that they do. So if you want
Speaker 6: to catch the festival or any other show and you're
Speaker 6: not in town, you can live stream all those shows
Speaker 6: on your computer.
Speaker 2: So loves that. Yeah, sounds great. Thank you, Max. I
Speaker 2: appreciate it very We'll talk again, I hope sometimes. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much. And again I'm a little belated here,
Speaker 2: but welcome to Boston. Welcome to Boston and Cambridge. Okay,
Speaker 2: thanks Mackill.
Speaker 6: I feel very welcome. Thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, will we get back. We're going to
Speaker 2: talk about the cicadas. No, that is not a blues band.
Speaker 2: They stop by about once every seventeen years and they
Speaker 2: make quite a racket. We will explain. The buzz is
Speaker 2: back coming back here on night Side in just a
Speaker 2: minute or two. Stay there, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w Boston's
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Speaker 2: This one will be fun, everybody. The cicadas are coming
Speaker 2: back to Massachusetts. Here's what we know, and we're brewed
Speaker 2: fourteen will emerge. I have no idea what BREWD fourteen is,
Speaker 2: but I'll tell you who will know what it is.
Speaker 2: It's Natasha Wright, the technical director and etymologist at Brahmin
Speaker 2: Termite and Test Elimination. Natasha, welcome to Night Side. I
Speaker 2: need to know everything about these cicadas. I know a
Speaker 2: little bit about them, but.
Speaker 4: You will tell you what I know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure we could. It would take two hours.
Speaker 2: Sounds to me like probably. Yeah. Tell us these little
Speaker 2: devils only come around what once every seventeen years or something.
Speaker 4: So there's seven species of what we call periodical cicadas.
Speaker 4: They have very long life cycles. There's a thirteen year
Speaker 4: and seventeen years. It depends on what species. So we
Speaker 4: are blessed this year, so to have a seventeen year
Speaker 4: brood coming out. It's called brood fourteen. There are fifteen
Speaker 4: total that are recognized, and it reaches into Massachusetts just
Speaker 4: a little bit, so if you're in western Cape Cod
Speaker 4: you might get to see them this year.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's first of all, you know a lot
Speaker 2: about this. What do you mean when you say brood fourteen?
Speaker 2: That sounds to me like the name of a pope
Speaker 2: from the Middle Ages. Could you imagine this pope Brood
Speaker 2: the fourteenth?
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, So how do.
Speaker 2: You get brood fourteen? I guess none of us can
Speaker 2: become a member of brood fourteen.
Speaker 4: Right, not unless we're a periodical cicada, I guess yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, So a.
Speaker 4: Brood is like a large grouping. It can extend multiple states,
Speaker 4: and they all are They all develop at the same time,
Speaker 4: and they all emerge at the same time. So I
Speaker 4: don't know how they do it. They clearly have some
Speaker 4: kind of awesome biological clock. That's seventeen years later pretty
Speaker 4: much in the same months on the same day. Most
Speaker 4: of them are emerging together. That so they're synchronized emergence.
Speaker 4: That is really what makes a brood. And there's fifteen
Speaker 4: different broods that emerge at different times and within different territories.
Speaker 4: Does that kind of makes sense?
Speaker 2: It does. So this this brood was hatched seventeen years ago, correct,
Speaker 2: r Okay, and it's been undergrod living off I guess
Speaker 2: roots of plants and trees. Yeah, they have.
Speaker 4: They have like little beak like mouthparts and they stab
Speaker 4: into the roots of plants and they suck the juices
Speaker 4: out of them. And they exist in this immature stage
Speaker 4: for seventeen years, sucking on juices, just waiting for the
Speaker 4: right moment.
Speaker 2: Okay, now did below earth? How far are they below?
Speaker 2: Are they like a mile below, a mile? Hundred yards? Oh?
Speaker 4: No, a couple couple inches, maybe a couple of feet.
Speaker 4: It really depends on I guess what year of that development.
Speaker 4: But they're not very deep. Soil is pretty average.
Speaker 2: So in theory, you could, in theory try to dig
Speaker 2: them up, right, you could? Could?
Speaker 1: You could?
Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody has, but you could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I give a strange mind. That's why I
Speaker 2: would think of something like that. So anyway, so these
Speaker 2: little little critters, can I call them critters technically? Is
Speaker 2: that an atmology? It's critters, okay, gritters that they have antennae.
Speaker 4: By the way, they do, right, they do they do?
Speaker 2: Okay, I've seen them before, And they kind of like
Speaker 2: these buggy eyes right.
Speaker 4: Yes, they're they're kind of chunky, they're black. They have
Speaker 4: red demonic looking eyes, but they're not dangerous to humans.
Speaker 4: And they kind of have these neat orange accents on
Speaker 4: the wings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not the most they're not as say,
Speaker 2: beautiful as a butterfly.
Speaker 4: No, the front of their face almost looks like a
Speaker 4: cargrill if you look at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, maybe a cargrill that had been in an accident.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so somehow, some way they emerge. And how
Speaker 2: long once they emerge. Now they've been in the making
Speaker 2: here for seventeen years. That's a heck of a gestation
Speaker 2: period they emerge, and how long they make a lot
Speaker 2: of noise. The males make a lot of noise, typical males.
Speaker 2: You know, empty barrel makes the greatest noise. Okay, they
Speaker 2: may a lot of noise. The ladies cicadas don't make
Speaker 2: a lot of noise, and they munch and crunch and
Speaker 2: and and they hang around. How long are they above
Speaker 2: ground before they pass on?
Speaker 4: About a month or a month and a half, So
Speaker 4: really not that long. You spent most of your time
Speaker 4: as a juvenile, come out, make a bunch of racket
Speaker 4: mate lay eggs die very quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so when they die, they don't have like
Speaker 2: funeral services, so the other little cicadas put them in graves.
Speaker 2: They're just dead on the ground. And one of the
Speaker 2: things that I understand, it's pretty dangerous for particularly you know, pets,
Speaker 2: particularly dogs to go out and think that they're found
Speaker 2: a buffet on the ground, you know, four to.
Speaker 4: Six years necessarily dangerous. I guess that's maybe just gross, yeah.
Speaker 2: Right right, But I'm saying if you my understanding is
Speaker 2: that that can cause quite a problem with dog with
Speaker 2: canine digestive systems without getting yeah, well expert here, So
Speaker 2: I've done I've done a little bit of work and
Speaker 2: that kind of caught my eye. So I just want
Speaker 2: to mention to people that have all.
Speaker 4: Of the s articles that you could cook them.
Speaker 2: Well, there is some there are some weird people out
Speaker 2: there who will cook anything. Trust me on that.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm told that they taste like chicken. Now that
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I've tried everything.
Speaker 2: Been somewhere when someone you'll be at a restaurant and
Speaker 2: they'll have rattle snak and they'll say, oh, why don't
Speaker 2: you try it? And you're gonna you and I would,
Speaker 2: probably being of above average intelligence, would say I'm not
Speaker 2: interested in any rattle sneak. And someone saying it tastes
Speaker 2: like chicken. Everything tastes like chicken, They try to because
Speaker 2: they want you to try it, you know. Anyway, I'm
Speaker 2: joking with it. I'm just just having some fun. So
Speaker 2: this group won't be any their successors, their progeny will
Speaker 2: not be around for another seventeen years, and they'll come out,
Speaker 2: as you said, around the same time, late May early June,
Speaker 2: like clockwork.
Speaker 4: Like clockwork, usually it's when the soil reaches sixty four
Speaker 4: degrees fahrenheit. It's a very particular temperature, which means the
Speaker 4: above ground temperatures are somewhere between seventy and eighty degrees
Speaker 4: fahrenheit for that soil to reach that temperature, followed by
Speaker 4: a nice rain, and that's when they come.
Speaker 2: Out every year. There's in different parts of the country
Speaker 2: they will material I assume this is not the only
Speaker 2: place that you said that they're endemic to a bunch
Speaker 2: of areas, right, correct.
Speaker 4: Brood fourteen is actually going to be emerging in twelve states.
Speaker 4: They're not all going to have heavy emergents, but twelve states,
Speaker 4: so each brood can be through many many states these things.
Speaker 2: It's amazing you scientists that figured this thing out. But
Speaker 2: are there the dudes in other areas of the country?
Speaker 2: Number one? And what about other parts of the hemisphere
Speaker 2: or the world. Are these endemic only to the United States?
Speaker 4: I believe Magisicata, which is the big genus of these things,
Speaker 4: is mainly North American. There's other groups and other parts
Speaker 4: of the world that have different cycles. I think I
Speaker 4: read about a four year and an eight year But
Speaker 4: for the most part, cicadas have very long developmental cycles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen years, as it would do it for me.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see them any more often than
Speaker 2: seventeen years, to be early honest with you. I've seen
Speaker 2: videos on these and when you see the videos that documentaries,
Speaker 2: they can be pretty frightening. That's all about I know
Speaker 2: they're there. They're there. Are they invasive into people's homes
Speaker 2: or will they always just stay outside?
Speaker 4: I've not known them to be a problem inside. I
Speaker 4: suppose that there's a million outside. Is there a possibility
Speaker 4: if you leave your door open one could get inside?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: But otherwise it's not.
Speaker 2: Like a horror movie, is what you're telling.
Speaker 4: I think people imagine it being like a cicade apocalypse
Speaker 4: or something, but it's it's not going to be that bad.
Speaker 4: It's going to last about a month. You can deal
Speaker 4: with a hundred decibel screaming of males trying to lure females.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I read. I actually did my homework
Speaker 2: on this, which you know because I'm interested in it.
Speaker 2: I guess one hundred decibels is like a hair dryer, right,
Speaker 2: So we're not talking about you're going to have to
Speaker 2: close your windows and put on ear muffs and huddle
Speaker 2: in the basement. I mean you'll hear them.
Speaker 4: I the decibels too. I reader one hundred to one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty decibels. It's about a fire alarm, so
Speaker 4: it can be a round of fire alarms, so if
Speaker 4: you're close to them, obviously the further away, the less intense.
Speaker 2: It is, hopefully hopefully well. Look, I appreciate this, Natasha.
Speaker 2: That's really great. And if anybody wants to get in
Speaker 2: touch with you, how can they get in touch with
Speaker 2: with you? For more information.
Speaker 4: Braman Pest dot com. You can contact us by email
Speaker 4: or phone and I can answer any questions you have.
Speaker 2: Brayman br A m A n. Pest all one word
Speaker 2: dot com. Natasha, thank you very much. I enjoyed the
Speaker 2: conversation and I love your sense of humor. It's a
Speaker 2: little understated, but it's very nice. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. All right, that takes care of the
Speaker 2: eight o'clock hour. We have three hours left to go.
Speaker 2: And on the other side, have you tried to get
Speaker 2: an appointment at the Massachusetts Registery of Motive Vehicles or
Speaker 2: I assume at any Registry of Motive Vehicles or Department
Speaker 2: of Motive Vehicles, whatever it's called in your community. The deadline,
Speaker 2: the real deadline, This is the real deadline for the
Speaker 2: real ID is really coming and it's coming at you quickly,
Speaker 2: and I'll explain it all answer questions I have. I
Speaker 2: have all the answers to all your questions. And this
Speaker 2: is serious. Believe me, it is serious, and I'll explain
Speaker 2: right after to the nine o'clock news