Speaker 1: In the same old sports media.
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Speaker 2: are just completely off base?
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Speaker 2: you get the drift. Hawthorne, California on pd Caamrio. He
Speaker 2: is Kenneth Berry, and we're here to talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about the rest of the draft. Bast time you
Speaker 2: heard us was on the day of the first round.
Speaker 2: Now we've got a week or so to really kind
Speaker 2: of let the dust set on and digest the full
Speaker 2: seven round in NFL Draft that occurred last week.
Speaker 1: With all that in mind, Kenny.
Speaker 2: Just I think you said when I asked you kind
Speaker 2: of what the headline would be. I think you said
Speaker 2: that there was going to be a lot of I
Speaker 2: don't remember what you said. Did you say there was
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of lament taking. Yeah, No, that's
Speaker 2: not what you said. That sound like something you could
Speaker 2: say running backs. No, tryn't say there was going to
Speaker 2: be a run on running backs. No, that's not what receivers.
Speaker 2: You said that before, but when I asked you on
Speaker 2: the day, I don't remember. I have to go back
Speaker 2: and listen to it. Anyways, as of now, like, what
Speaker 2: do you think the overall headline of the draft is?
Speaker 1: I think good teams got better. I think you had
Speaker 1: a bad draft in this draft. That's just your fault.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is the draft where a lot
Speaker 2: of teams kind of rounded out their rosters. I feel
Speaker 2: like there was a lot of talent sprinkled out throughout
Speaker 2: the middle round.
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about it leading up to it.
Speaker 2: I mean there were guys that could have fallen anywhere
Speaker 2: from the first round to the fourth round, and you
Speaker 2: saw that unfold with the guy at your door and
Speaker 2: get his number called until the fourth round, even after
Speaker 2: the Browns had already taken the quarterback. But in those
Speaker 2: middle rounds, there were a lot of high end talented,
Speaker 2: skilled players that went. There were a lot of d
Speaker 2: linemen that went throughout the first and second rounds.
Speaker 1: There was a run on running backs in the middle rounds.
Speaker 2: I think we saw a good amount of quarterbacks go,
Speaker 2: even though this wasn't really thought of as a good
Speaker 2: quarterback class. I think a lot of guys we're seen
Speaker 2: as the developmental picks. People you can in and they
Speaker 2: can be camp arms now and perhaps they're develop into
Speaker 2: something later. There was a lot of trades. I mean,
Speaker 2: we talked about Houston and the Rams kind of training back,
Speaker 2: and now you look at that Rams trade and it's
Speaker 2: like they kind of fleecing Land in that because now
Speaker 2: they're going to be able to get their quarterback in
Speaker 2: the future next year, which is something that you said off.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Overall, man, I think when you look at the AFC West,
Speaker 2: I feel like all four teams really kind of had
Speaker 2: a good NFL draft, Like I feel like they all
Speaker 2: kind of address their needs and also got some talent upgrades,
Speaker 2: which is what you always want to do. And so
Speaker 2: for me, I think it's just gonna be one more
Speaker 2: indicator that's gonna be probably one of the toughest divisions.
Speaker 1: Again, the other kind.
Speaker 2: Of overall big narratives or themes you kind of took
Speaker 2: away from the whole three day draft experience.
Speaker 3: I'm glad the whole shador thing is over. Cam Ward
Speaker 3: really didn't get any real recognition for being the number
Speaker 3: one overall pick, and that's weird, especially since warn Moon
Speaker 3: unretires his jersey so he could wear it for the Titans.
Speaker 3: H Donavan Edward's going undrafted in the former Standford the
Speaker 3: Georgia Tighten going undrafted still kind of shocking to me.
Speaker 3: But I think a lot of these down drafted free
Speaker 3: agent guys probably gonna land on their feet somewhere many
Speaker 3: camps I've already.
Speaker 1: Kind of started.
Speaker 3: Yeahs Will Johnson is gonna wear number zero for the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think for me, one thing that I kind of
Speaker 2: realized was the fact that U c. L A had
Speaker 2: more players drafted than you. USC was kinna that kind
Speaker 2: of nasty word. You said something that I'm really that
Speaker 2: I'm really proud of, to be honest with, you said
Speaker 2: that with a smile in your heart.
Speaker 1: Even Cal had four and three. Cal has ballers, which
Speaker 1: is crazy, but.
Speaker 2: Oregon has had the most, at least for for out here.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I was happy to see my my uh,
Speaker 2: happy to see my boy O two go to the
Speaker 2: Titans in the round two.
Speaker 1: I feel like I was a little high.
Speaker 2: But he's someone who's fast, athletic, can play off the
Speaker 2: ball on the edge, can really developed. He's got a
Speaker 2: lot of energy, Jalen Smith in the third round.
Speaker 3: Your guy Jonan Manheim went to the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Yep, like that.
Speaker 3: Kyle Williams from Gowood slash Hawthorne third round to the Patriots.
Speaker 3: Perfect spot for him, fresh with him and Digs there
Speaker 3: and the fact that the Pats got two running backs.
Speaker 2: Titans also took Jason Slater, that guy had reviewed the
Speaker 2: Saints tick a lot of Viio out of.
Speaker 1: So Ja Tua. I think he went to the Colts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went to the Colts in the second n.
Speaker 2: But yeah, overall, I mean, we've talked about it all week,
Speaker 2: but I mean this is this was probably one of
Speaker 2: the best drafts we've seen from the Raiders in our times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, since the Super Bowl loss, Like that was from
Speaker 3: the top to bottom, the most well rounded draft.
Speaker 1: They got athletes who can play with hot character, build
Speaker 1: out their team needs.
Speaker 2: They got a couple receivers, they got projects. They got
Speaker 2: a couple of defensive linemen, a couple offensive linemen. I
Speaker 2: think if you you could go down the line and
Speaker 2: individually pick apart each pig, but I think ultimately look
Speaker 2: at the class as a whole, they got high character,
Speaker 2: high energy guys who want to compete, and they also
Speaker 2: happened to be athletic and bring some sort of juice
Speaker 2: to the table.
Speaker 1: And they know they played a.
Speaker 3: Role, like so Jordan six or five running the four
Speaker 3: to three flag, he played a role in Tennessee and
Speaker 3: the average twenty five yard.
Speaker 2: To catch, like Jans's the obvious pick. And I'm glad
Speaker 2: that the Raiders didn't, you know, get in their own
Speaker 2: way and they just made it after that, it was
Speaker 2: kind of playing with playing with the house's money.
Speaker 1: You get back Beck incredible story.
Speaker 2: Was happy for him, a little bit high, but he's
Speaker 2: a guy. He's a guy who can get open, he
Speaker 2: can make contested catches, and as long as his speed translates,
Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna be a guy that can help
Speaker 2: the move the chains. And then you add that to
Speaker 2: Dante Thornton, which is Kenny's been high on all all year, really,
Speaker 2: and he brings you a kind of speed side element
Speaker 2: that you can mix in. And I mean you draft
Speaker 2: a genty, of course you're gonna have to take some
Speaker 2: offensive lineman. I liked some other guys that were on
Speaker 2: the board more than Rogers and Grant, but I understand
Speaker 2: the thinking behind it.
Speaker 1: And then the corner they got was a guy.
Speaker 2: Who were in a four to three athletic physical big
Speaker 2: fits Pete Carroll's kind of traits.
Speaker 1: All the way around.
Speaker 2: All in all, though, I'd say it's probably a B
Speaker 2: plus in my draft, probably the best draft we've had
Speaker 2: in a really long time.
Speaker 3: Any thoughts on that, Kenny, Yeah, no complaints given a
Speaker 3: solid B plus. Your solid B roster's better today than
Speaker 3: it was before the draft. Talk about what the Seahars did.
Speaker 2: I think one pick that everyone's kind of been talking
Speaker 2: about was Jaln Milroe in the third round, some people
Speaker 2: comparing it to when they took Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why.
Speaker 3: People his mechanics comparison, because he's fast as hell, strong,
Speaker 3: he runs like Cam, is fast like Lamar, and has
Speaker 3: a rocket for an arm. He's just underdeveloped passer. If
Speaker 3: he can become anything remotely good, it's a great pick plus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's faster than Wilson and he's probably nowhere
Speaker 2: near has developed as a staraware, so true, I don't
Speaker 2: really like their comparison, but.
Speaker 1: He can grow into something very spectacular.
Speaker 2: I mean, we love the safety pick in the second round,
Speaker 2: and he was best.
Speaker 1: It's what they want to do.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Pick Mills is another big body, run stuffer that likes
Speaker 2: that also fits what they want to do. A couple
Speaker 2: of tight ends, a teen as a running back out
Speaker 2: of Miami Royal.
Speaker 3: Also out of Miami, they picked up a receiver too,
Speaker 3: Ricky White the third and then yeah, they got a break.
Speaker 3: They got a lot of seniors, a lot of guys
Speaker 3: who are captains.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say it's probably a B B minus draft
Speaker 2: for me. For the Seahawks, what would you say, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be plus hard for.
Speaker 1: Me to all the areas they were weak at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear. Yeah, I just don't really expect much from them.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's hard to expect a lot from the
Speaker 3: rookies if you don't expect a lot from the squad
Speaker 3: in general.
Speaker 1: Uneers. The Niners were kind of.
Speaker 2: A team that had some folks scratching their head during
Speaker 2: the draft.
Speaker 1: But what did you think about what the Niners did overall?
Speaker 3: I just had a lot of holes at the patch.
Speaker 3: They kind of had to go ed Rusher and the
Speaker 3: Georgia ed Rusher was one of the best ones available.
Speaker 3: It would be smart to take him. You kind of
Speaker 3: have to do it, especially with that rebuilt defense.
Speaker 2: Crazy how they went from like, what two super Bowls
Speaker 2: in four years behind a great defense to this they're
Speaker 2: going on what their third defensive coordinator in three years,
Speaker 2: four defensive coordinator in four years, something like that. Yep,
Speaker 2: they've kind of I go through guys, they picked up
Speaker 2: guys off the scrap. He tried to make redemption products,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Things have worked out the various degrees. But
Speaker 2: I think the biggest takeaway for me from this draft
Speaker 2: is they really just invested in that defense. Again, they
Speaker 2: invested in all levels of it. Taking Mikhal Williams in
Speaker 2: the first round and then pairing that with Alfred Collins,
Speaker 2: guy that you liked a lot.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, they just continued to build on that throughout
Speaker 2: the whole draft. A lot of people like the Jordan
Speaker 2: Watkins pick in the middle of the fourth round. They
Speaker 2: think he can develop into something single people liked that
Speaker 2: pick a lot. I saw people who also liked the
Speaker 2: Jordan James pick out of workin even though they always
Speaker 2: have hello running backs for no reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you give the Niners grade? Yeah?
Speaker 2: C plus. Yeah, I'd probably say C plus as well.
Speaker 2: Just because I feel like they probably should have traded
Speaker 2: at Yuke at.
Speaker 1: Some point and got another pig. Mm hmm. True. I
Speaker 1: forgot about that all right.
Speaker 2: The Rams, they got Terrence Ferguson with the second round
Speaker 2: in the second round after training out the first They
Speaker 2: got Josiah Stewart, another player I talked to at the
Speaker 2: Senior Ball. In the third round. They got Draquez Hunter
Speaker 2: running back at the Auburn in the fourth round. Tyan
Speaker 2: Hamilton d tackle at Ohio State, which was low key
Speaker 2: at still I had saw some people haven't been in
Speaker 2: the second, third round, and then they got Chris Paul
Speaker 2: Junior in the fifth round at an Ole, Miss And
Speaker 2: then the seventh round coming on to monthfield them she
Speaker 2: out of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: What do you think about what the Rams did overall?
Speaker 3: Give it a b uh honestly, ty Hamilton, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: thought he was gonna go higher just from talking to
Speaker 3: him a big tim me d Day and other stuff.
Speaker 3: That fraction was the best tight end available at the time.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna truly do wonders for the offense.
Speaker 3: He's fast, he can.
Speaker 1: Get open, great catch ready.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's a big body guy, he's athletic, I think
Speaker 3: he opens up the offense.
Speaker 1: Defensively.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jonsiah Stewart's great ad rusher comes from a proven program.
Speaker 3: You can never have too many good pass rushers, so
Speaker 3: you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I think the thing about those first two picks is
Speaker 2: they really fit the RAMS culture. They fit with the
Speaker 2: RAMS one to do. I mean, Stewart is a dog.
Speaker 2: His motor doesn't stop. He's a bit undersized, but he's
Speaker 2: mix it up with quickness and relentlessness, and I think
Speaker 2: he gives him flexibility if they don't want to play
Speaker 2: ay Byron Young, but they also gives him someone else
Speaker 2: that they can throw into the mix alongside him.
Speaker 1: And then as far as Ferguson, I.
Speaker 2: Mean when I talked to him at the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 2: he was talking about how he wanted teams to know
Speaker 2: how clutch he is, how he likes coming up in
Speaker 2: big moments, and I think that's kind of what the
Speaker 2: Rams we're looking for. Tyler hate, he's great, but he's
Speaker 2: often heard, and so getting a guy like Ferguson again,
Speaker 2: someone who can both work alongside him and then also
Speaker 2: kind of eventually, you know, take over some of the snaps.
Speaker 2: So I like those two picks a lot, and then
Speaker 2: Hamilton too. I mean, he's a guy who can go
Speaker 2: right into their defensive rotation right away. Chris Paul Junior
Speaker 2: seems like another kind of rotational linebacker they can develop,
Speaker 2: which they've been good at over the past few years.
Speaker 2: So I'd say the Rams, given the kind of resources
Speaker 2: they had, or give them a B plus. And then
Speaker 2: I'd probably say the Niners probably like a C plus
Speaker 2: b bynus just depending on how some of those guys turn.
Speaker 3: Out, because Chris Paul Junior is a steel for for them.
Speaker 1: He can become a starter at linebacker for real.
Speaker 2: Like how draft to the Chargers Amari Hampton in the
Speaker 2: first round running back out of North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Super productive.
Speaker 2: To Trey Harris for Steve rad Ole miss Jamari Calwell,
Speaker 2: t tackle out of Oregon in the third round, Kyle
Speaker 2: Canard linebacker South Carolina, the fourth DeAndre Lambert Smith receiver
Speaker 2: at Auburn, and the fifth Aronde Godson tight end out
Speaker 2: of Syracuse. In the fifth Brunson Taylor tackle out of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Is j Minkoln safetyeddo Clemson, Chris wi Key Bridges safetyed Alforida.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you think about the Chargers class,
Speaker 2: I think it's great because, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, you gotta be able to trust and almost wide receiver.
Speaker 3: You know, they could run routes, add some speed and
Speaker 3: some size, hopefully some consistency to that receiver group. And
Speaker 3: Hampton and Najie Harris is gonna be a great one
Speaker 3: to combo.
Speaker 1: Defensively, I think is gonna get better.
Speaker 3: They might even be able to sign a couple Veterans'd
Speaker 3: be interesting to see how where they go with it, though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested to see how that all plays out
Speaker 2: because they they have Hampton now, I think they gave
Speaker 2: Dobbins a tender. They signed Age Harris, so I'm interested
Speaker 2: to see how that dynamic plays out. I know wants
Speaker 2: to run the ball a lot, but we'll see how
Speaker 2: the percentages kind of break out. I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be kind of frustrating for fantasy owners out there, at
Speaker 2: least at first.
Speaker 1: The same thing with Harris.
Speaker 2: I mean at receiver room now, a lot of people
Speaker 2: think they're going to bring back Kanan Allen. If they do,
Speaker 2: Harris might not find himself with a lot of snaps.
Speaker 2: Caldwell Canard, I like those two picks. I feel like
Speaker 2: they were good value picks, and then everyone else too.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're good value picks. Where they got
Speaker 2: him at very much kind of just just taking the
Speaker 2: best player available.
Speaker 1: So i'd say the Chargers, I'd probably give them a
Speaker 1: sod B as well.
Speaker 2: Your overall winner of the NFL drivet, what's the class
Speaker 2: do you think will make the biggest impact?
Speaker 1: Oh, Eagles. Eagles for sure, Jahad Campbell.
Speaker 3: The top ten pick your cord.
Speaker 1: But now, yeah, you're good.
Speaker 3: Jehad Campbell got him linebacker running the four or five
Speaker 3: to two who can play some edge and inside linebacker.
Speaker 3: They got him at the end of the first round
Speaker 3: on top of the linebackers they already have, so the
Speaker 3: linebacker room only got better. They got safety, they got DB's,
Speaker 3: they got corners. Yeah, the Eagles just keep load up
Speaker 3: in the draft. So and they won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: So I have to.
Speaker 1: Go with that.
Speaker 3: About your overall loser, I want to say the Lions. Honestly,
Speaker 3: none of their picture really impressed me that much. They
Speaker 3: got in the first round. I feel like they could
Speaker 3: have waited to get them.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the Lions. It's kind of up
Speaker 1: in the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So NFL Network ranked the Patriots the number one
Speaker 2: Dravet class, but I don't know if that's really fair
Speaker 2: because they just had a ship done the Pigs and
Speaker 2: they also have a shitty roster where a lot of
Speaker 2: those guys can play, So.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that turns out. But yeah, man, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I think for me it's it's I feel like it's
Speaker 2: it's two of the classes that we kind of already
Speaker 2: talked about with the Raiders and the Seahawks. I think
Speaker 2: they both really kind of get the nail on the
Speaker 2: hammer with what they needed and side of that, I mean,
Speaker 2: outside of that, I mean, I like what the Browns did,
Speaker 2: minus taking two quarterbacks that was weird, but I liked
Speaker 2: the selections that they got, like it kind of rounded
Speaker 2: out their roster.
Speaker 1: A little bit, made a little bit more balanced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know as far as losers, I mean,
Speaker 2: NFL Network again has the Vikings ring towards the last class,
Speaker 2: but they also had the least amount of picks. The
Speaker 2: Rams are also down there, but again, I liked what
Speaker 2: the Rams did even though they didn't have a lot.
Speaker 1: Ooh, here's a good one. Good stinker Saints.
Speaker 2: I feel like the show. Second round. Me and Kenny
Speaker 2: talked about it. Kenny laughed when I said he might
Speaker 2: go in the first or second. I still don't think
Speaker 2: he belongs there. I think he would have been a
Speaker 2: good fourth.
Speaker 3: Round pick, fifth round pick, the second round pick, it's
Speaker 3: just way too high. I did like them well to
Speaker 3: the table pick. I like the Devin Neil pick. But
Speaker 3: between a show and.
Speaker 2: Whatever the fuck is going on with Derek Carr, it's
Speaker 2: like you got an offensive tackle, but do you really
Speaker 2: have a quarterback for the future. And then the Bengals too,
Speaker 2: I mean, they got Shamar Stewart, they got to meet
Speaker 2: you to night, but it's like you still ain't really
Speaker 2: figured out what you're gonna do with Trey Hendrickson. You
Speaker 2: could have traded him on draft. He got a ship
Speaker 2: down a pick and been good to go, but now
Speaker 2: you're just wasting another year of your window with your
Speaker 2: Burrow Higgins Chase Big three.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's like you pretty much got replacements for you know,
Speaker 2: Hendrickson and Pratt who went out. But if you you're
Speaker 2: just repeating, are you just repeating the cycle? Like at
Speaker 2: what point, just I don't know, go all in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: All right, anything else you want to say about the
Speaker 2: NFL dress before we wrap out the recap. Nah, I'm good,
Speaker 2: pretty much cover with the most of it. Shout out
Speaker 2: to Shout out to new Pittsburgh Steeler defensive TACKLEMN. His
Speaker 2: mom was an hospital online support. She had passed away
Speaker 2: after hearing the news about him getting drafted. It's kind
Speaker 2: of a big story all throughout the draft, but yeah,
Speaker 2: shortly after it broke that she actually died. Another kind
Speaker 2: of sidebar story that I really liked was the the
Speaker 2: Bengals corner that they drafted at the end of the round.
Speaker 2: Dude out of Kentucky, a guy you were high on
Speaker 2: the way he was just dabbing up everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said, Bill's Corner.
Speaker 2: No, but I didn't mean to if I did, But
Speaker 2: Bill's Corner, Yeah, he was just the way he was
Speaker 2: just embracing everyone as they were walking by. That was
Speaker 2: just really dope to see. Honestly, that was one of
Speaker 2: my favorite moments of the draft. And I'm sure we're
Speaker 2: gonna talk about it more. Well yeah, let's just let's
Speaker 2: just let's just hold on that.
Speaker 1: But college football awesome.
Speaker 3: All right, First things first, North Carolina is worried about
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick's girlfriend's involvement in his affairs, especially with the
Speaker 3: way he got she came at CBS. Well, it's looking
Speaker 3: like it, because what else would a seventy three year
Speaker 3: old and a twenty four year old have being together
Speaker 3: if she wasn't being a gold digger and you weren't
Speaker 3: being a sugar daddy. It's just like your fifth one.
Speaker 3: It's like your fifth one, Bill Belichick. See why I
Speaker 3: said this ain't gonna work in North Carolina for this reason.
Speaker 3: People already questioned it. I'd be like, if I'm a player,
Speaker 3: I don't answer her. She don't get to come up
Speaker 3: to me and say shi it to me. She wouldn't.
Speaker 3: She shouldn't be addressed in the team. She needs a
Speaker 3: state in her little place as the sugar baby, because like,
Speaker 3: if she is his manager, that's just gonna get messier
Speaker 3: and mess here. And from the looks of it, people
Speaker 3: are asking a lot of questions. He's releasing statements. TMC's
Speaker 3: on his top about it, and yeah that what happened
Speaker 3: with the interview where his girlfriend shut down a question.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna talk about that.
Speaker 3: Who are you to talk to anybody from CBS like that.
Speaker 1: That's what's crazy.
Speaker 3: So good old Belichick wherever he goes, controversy follows kind
Speaker 3: of interesting how that works out. And also Texas is
Speaker 3: reported to have about forty thirty five to forty million
Speaker 3: dollars in there in IL budgets. All state spent like
Speaker 3: almost fifty million last year or so there's that. There's
Speaker 3: also report saying arch banding isn't gonna come out after
Speaker 3: this season, but again that's way too early. Derrick Haagan,
Speaker 3: former Colorado QB, came out and was like, I got
Speaker 3: an issue with how they retired Travis and she do
Speaker 3: It's jerseys. We were told there was a process and
Speaker 3: there was actually a waiting period and they just retired
Speaker 3: the jerseys. It's like a lot of other guys still
Speaker 3: don't have their jerseys retired. We actually won something when
Speaker 3: we were in Colorado. Yeah, so is that some more
Speaker 3: stuff when it comes out. Dylan Ryola, the Nebraska QB
Speaker 3: who looks like Mahomes, tries to play like Mahomes and
Speaker 3: doesn't do a very good job of it. He signed
Speaker 3: with Adidas just like Mahomes. Uh So, yeah, cringe.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Darian Hagen was flabbergasted when he saw just Shad and
Speaker 3: all them just get their jerseys retired, totally blow off protocol.
Speaker 3: Washington just had their pro day or not their pro day,
Speaker 3: their spring game.
Speaker 1: That was interesting to watch.
Speaker 3: Uh offense, especially as Densman wasn't Demond women Wow talk
Speaker 3: DeMont Williams. He was like the number one player in
Speaker 3: the state of Arizona and he looking like he's gonna
Speaker 3: have a really good year for Washington. So it's gonna
Speaker 3: be interesting to see what they do in the Big
Speaker 3: and the Big Ten this year. Former five star wide
Speaker 3: receiver h Kee Williams, who is at Florida State, transferred
Speaker 3: to Colorado finally got themselves another five star receiver. He
Speaker 3: ain't going to Musico at s Travers Hunter, but it
Speaker 3: is what it is. Also, Dion Sanders just selling his
Speaker 3: his Texas mansion. It's twenty nine and twenty square feet
Speaker 3: five and a half million dollars listing. Let's stay at
Speaker 3: fourteen players. Actually, yeah, High State had the most players drafted.
Speaker 3: It was it was High State with fourteen. Colorado led
Speaker 3: the drafts with the drafted receivers taken from one school. Also, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that's it as far as college football right now, man,
Speaker 3: And well with that, uh, this should be an interesting
Speaker 3: addition of take your tangent.
Speaker 1: Starting with the whole print call situation.
Speaker 2: Most notably, Shador Sanders was getting prank called on draft day.
Speaker 2: People were blowing up his line basically saying he was
Speaker 2: getting drafted before he actually did so. Shador actually wasn't
Speaker 2: the only one that this happened to. There were a
Speaker 2: couple of players that this happened too. But just take
Speaker 2: your tangent on receiving a print call on on draft day.
Speaker 2: I don't know much I can speak to this because
Speaker 2: you're not worth but I know if it's me, uh,
Speaker 2: if we find out who you prant called, like, you
Speaker 2: should to be brought up on criminal charges. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: just considered the swatting category. When you do something like that,
Speaker 2: and it's like, imagine somebody called you and said you
Speaker 2: got your dream job and it was a lie. You
Speaker 2: caused me emotional damage. What if somebody did that to
Speaker 2: harmon the organ d tackle and then he tells his
Speaker 2: mom and his mom dies saying he gets drafted, but
Speaker 2: he don't get drafted, Like there has to be a
Speaker 2: price for that kind of stupid ass kind of prank.
Speaker 2: I never I don't find stuff like that funny.
Speaker 3: It's not like, imagine if somebody did that to you
Speaker 3: on the most important day of your life, you feel.
Speaker 1: Like shit, you I think really, I just think you should.
Speaker 3: You should be forced to put on the helmet and
Speaker 3: shoulder pads and have to go head up with an
Speaker 3: entire uh roster NFL players.
Speaker 1: I think for me, no breaks, no water for me.
Speaker 1: The part.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know about if I'm if I'm cool
Speaker 2: with dishing out criminal charges for brank calls. But what
Speaker 2: I will say is like, if you have this, it's
Speaker 2: one thing to be a big enough asshole to brank
Speaker 2: call someone on what should be an historic and memorable
Speaker 2: day in their life. That's another thing is you're stupid
Speaker 2: enough to post it on the internet and it's even
Speaker 2: stupid or if you know only you know a few
Speaker 2: hundred people have this phone number, like it's going to
Speaker 2: get back to you and oh yeah, you just made
Speaker 2: it even easier by posting on the internet, you fucking idiot.
Speaker 2: Like Jesus Christ, I mean, honestly, with all with all
Speaker 2: this shit that Schadora has gotten since you know, two
Speaker 2: weeks ago when his stock started crumbling. It's like with
Speaker 2: all that shit, like nobody has really said anything about
Speaker 2: how he has kind of handled that with grace and
Speaker 2: just been like, uh, you know, whatever, it happens, like,
Speaker 2: you know, there's dumb asses everywhere, like it is what
Speaker 2: it is like, and nobody's really giving him credit for that,
Speaker 2: because he could be you know, getting all emotional about it,
Speaker 2: you know, saying like, oh, look at this is this
Speaker 2: is why the league don't like me, or you know whatever,
Speaker 2: but he's he I'm sure he's come across as enough
Speaker 2: dumb frat boys. You know, this shit happens, and honestly,
Speaker 2: kudos to him and everyone else for not crashing out because.
Speaker 3: Well it is well it might be kind of directly harmless.
Speaker 3: Like Kenny said, emotionally, you know there are consequences. You know,
Speaker 3: you're fucking with someone's or you're fucking with someone's moon,
Speaker 3: like for no reason other than jealousy and envy.
Speaker 2: Because guess what, ain't nobody from whatever job you're trying
Speaker 2: to get to is.
Speaker 1: Calling you right now or has you on their radar.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be working for Penny for whatever they say.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be working at just like he is. But
Speaker 2: guess what, you ain't gonna get the whole lifestyle being
Speaker 2: in the league. So the fact that you have to,
Speaker 2: you know, take advantage of someone in that moment when
Speaker 2: they're vulnerable. It's just nasty work. But yeah, moving on.
Speaker 2: This next one's gonna be a little bit fun. But
Speaker 2: take or tangent, Kenny. Both LA basketball teams.
Speaker 3: Being eliminated from the NBA postseason and also the Kings
Speaker 3: listening to the Edmontoners for the fourth straight year, take
Speaker 3: our tangent on the LA postseason.
Speaker 1: Trash. It's dead, it's booth, it's turned down. It's thirsty.
Speaker 1: That was beautiful. Just let that marine for a second ahead.
Speaker 3: It's foodful, it's fool gayzy. It's an embarrassment that the
Speaker 3: Clippers lost. It was it was just destiny that the
Speaker 3: Lakers are gonna lose. The basketball guys are gonna let
Speaker 3: you win that easy. It's not you can't cheat the game.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just.
Speaker 3: LA Gotta do better, Gotta raise the quality of the product,
Speaker 3: Gotta make better decisions. It's not enough to look competitive,
Speaker 3: you gotta actually be competitive. Lakers didn't look competitive at
Speaker 3: all against the Tea Wolves shot at Anthea, where he's
Speaker 3: just getting people out of here left and right, the
Speaker 3: true spirit of Kobe with the true delivery delivery of
Speaker 3: a Michael Jordan. Some people say he's Michael Jordan's long
Speaker 3: lost son, ridiculous athlete, psychopath, shit talker.
Speaker 1: I respect it.
Speaker 3: People don't realize the game is in a great place
Speaker 3: to a certain extent with some of these young guys.
Speaker 1: But the old heads didn't eat out the way booms.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna. We're not gonna. First off, KD.
Speaker 3: Think about KD, Steph Curry, all these guys they had
Speaker 3: to come after to Kobe Shack.
Speaker 1: They had to come after a lot of people people.
Speaker 3: Nobody was saying Steph Curry is gonna be a Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame player. Nobody said step Everybody said the thing
Speaker 3: that makes Steph Curry so great is why he's gonna
Speaker 3: be weak. Like, yeah, he's a great shooter, but he's
Speaker 3: too small and not weak enough. His ankles trash, he's
Speaker 3: turned down, he's too thirsty, his light skin taper kind.
Speaker 1: Of funny, like all those things could be true. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying.
Speaker 3: He's playing his most clutch, psychotic form of basketball.
Speaker 1: He's just finishing and you gotta respect that.
Speaker 3: But uh, and these young guys got me, got me
Speaker 3: believing in basketball again because they care. You can see
Speaker 3: they care. They will hoop your ass up, they will
Speaker 3: run you ragged.
Speaker 1: That's why you gotta.
Speaker 3: Dudes like literally popping and tearing achilles.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: We're in a new era of basketball and these guys
Speaker 3: are going to be ushered out. Bron's gonna retire pretty soon,
Speaker 3: Steph gonna retire pretty soon.
Speaker 1: KD might retire. I think.
Speaker 3: I think Giannis and KD on the Clippers is going
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 1: Mark my words. I've been saying it for a while now.
Speaker 3: People may hate my taket, but when that shit come
Speaker 3: out to be true, I just look at him like
Speaker 3: I know Ball, I just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for me, that's all I know. For
Speaker 1: me the Lakers, I mean, you hit it right on
Speaker 1: the head, like.
Speaker 3: I think for both teams, the Lakers and the Clippers,
Speaker 3: this just gives you the underwhelming Like it's just this
Speaker 3: just shows you you can't build a championship team in
Speaker 3: thirty or forty games, three or four months.
Speaker 1: What about your old as.
Speaker 2: The Nuggets were a team that win a mpionship three
Speaker 2: years ago, and as that series went on, they got
Speaker 2: closer together because if you watch that game, the first
Speaker 2: few games they were arguing they were falling apart and
Speaker 2: the Clippers are really two baskets away from going up
Speaker 2: three to one on that could have easily been asweep,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't, and as the series went on fell
Speaker 2: out a favorite with the Clippers. I don't know what
Speaker 2: happened between James Harden and Kawhi, but I think this
Speaker 2: is the last we've seen them together in the Clippers' uniform.
Speaker 2: After the game, they basically asked Kawhi like, what do
Speaker 2: you think you and harden chances are?
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, I don't know. I can't really
Speaker 1: answer that right now.
Speaker 2: But I think if Harden would have taken the podium
Speaker 2: with him, I think it would have been a different story.
Speaker 2: I think they could have taken that moment to say, now,
Speaker 2: you know, we only played together for this amount of time,
Speaker 2: like we're gonna run this back, We're closed, you know,
Speaker 2: we finally got healthy. But I think as a Clipper fan,
Speaker 2: that's also what hurts is this was the year there
Speaker 2: was no injuries, there was no excuses and the result
Speaker 2: was the same. But kudos to Russell Westbrook and kudos
Speaker 2: to the Nuggets. I mean, Westbrook's still one of my
Speaker 2: favorite players, even though he literally killed us.
Speaker 1: It was literally the.
Speaker 2: Difference in that last game and really two of the
Speaker 2: other Nuggets wins. So I'm happy for him because the
Speaker 2: league really just left him for dead. For the Lakers,
Speaker 2: I mean, they need to figure out what direction they're
Speaker 2: going to go in. I think at this point, Claire
Speaker 2: lucas driving and I don't know how long JJ's going
Speaker 2: to be at the helmet.
Speaker 1: That's the case, because.
Speaker 2: You don't go out and call out Luca after you
Speaker 2: lost the playoff series and say, yeah, some people are
Speaker 2: in shape and some people aren't. We all know who
Speaker 2: you're talking about, Like that's been the storyline for how
Speaker 2: many months, Jj Reddick, you've worked out ESPN. You see
Speaker 2: the headlines, you know the people making the headlines, Like,
Speaker 2: you know better than to say something like that. And
Speaker 2: he wasn't out of shape when you were playing him
Speaker 2: for a whole second half. Wasn't out of shape when
Speaker 2: he was getting triple doubles and dropping forty and getting
Speaker 2: you guys into the three seed but now he's out
Speaker 2: of shape because you guys lost in five games. No, Similarly,
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves traded away car Anthony Towns. They traded away
Speaker 2: a star and got guys to build around Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think with those two, that's the indicator super team
Speaker 2: is dead. With the way a luxury tax is, it's
Speaker 2: really hard to get three stars on one team. You
Speaker 2: can get two and then kind of get you know,
Speaker 2: three and four a whatever, But to get three max guys,
Speaker 2: those days are gone. Look at Phoenix, you can't surround
Speaker 2: them with talent. There's too many taxes and too much
Speaker 2: many repercussions.
Speaker 1: And for the Kings, I just.
Speaker 2: Feel bad because they had a two zero lead. They
Speaker 2: were in the driver's seat of that series and Edmonton
Speaker 2: just got into their head and just pulled it out
Speaker 2: one more time.
Speaker 1: Now they're going to take on the Knights.
Speaker 2: Which the Knights they were up to to Ozho and
Speaker 2: they lost three straight and they end up coming back
Speaker 2: and went into in a row taking the series. Because
Speaker 2: much like the Nuggets, they got that championship war. Some
Speaker 2: people got the championship war, some don't. That's just how
Speaker 2: it goes.
Speaker 1: All right. Next up we got.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, also, Jeff Albert, you should probably put hands
Speaker 2: on your son for a cost you two hunder k.
Speaker 1: That was for the last one. I forgot to say that.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to add that. But Steve Smith is
Speaker 1: getting sued after his affair.
Speaker 2: People might recall that in February, some veteran dude basically
Speaker 2: posted a call that he had Steve Smith calling him
Speaker 2: out for cheating with his wife. Apparently, state of North
Speaker 2: Carolina is one of three states left where you can
Speaker 2: sue somebody over an affair, especially if you can prove
Speaker 2: that your relationship was happy until that person met your spouse.
Speaker 2: So this is looking kind of like an open and
Speaker 2: shutcase for Steve Smith, based off some of the messages
Speaker 2: we've already seen, based off some of the dialogue he's
Speaker 2: had with this guy, and considering it's a State of
Speaker 2: North Carolina where this's all happened.
Speaker 1: SMYTHM.
Speaker 2: I just need to settle this one. I think our
Speaker 2: attentions fan has gotten shorter, so I think at some
Speaker 2: point we'll forget about this. But his whole starter was
Speaker 2: just really, really ascending, and I feel like this whole
Speaker 2: thing just suck the momentum out of it, no pun intended.
Speaker 3: Yeah, any thoughts on that, Kinny, it's boom boo, it's
Speaker 3: turned down, chirsty.
Speaker 1: Rash sightful. All I know is.
Speaker 3: All this NBA stuff happening with the Golden State Warriors
Speaker 3: winning Game seven. I'm just glad we stopped talking about
Speaker 3: that bum Paul George. All right, Uh, I mean that
Speaker 3: in the basketball context because clearly he's a multi millionaire.
Speaker 1: Moving on to touchdown or turn over. Let me find
Speaker 1: the drop.
Speaker 2: The Panthers added Hunter Renfrow touchdown or turnover after the draft.
Speaker 2: They signed the former raided receiver a year after year aatis.
Speaker 3: Touchdown. He had an autoimmune disease. That's why he didn't
Speaker 3: play this past year. He got that under control, and
Speaker 3: they just drafted t Mac.
Speaker 1: A receiver, and.
Speaker 3: They got an example of the get and all these
Speaker 3: other receivers that they got to figure out.
Speaker 1: So Bryce Young has weapons. They just all need to
Speaker 1: get better together. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's a touchdown too because Renfrow mixes
Speaker 2: in with some of those bigger receivers, faster receivers that
Speaker 2: they have, and just being of a slight frame. I
Speaker 2: think he gives Bryce Young a target that's a little
Speaker 2: bit lower to the ground and just something extra to
Speaker 2: help them kind of move the chains. And I mean,
Speaker 2: if you ask people around the league, everyone loves how
Speaker 2: to run, Fels, leadership and his footwork. So why not
Speaker 2: bring him in see what he's got left. Hopefully he
Speaker 2: doesn't get in another concussion, because none of us want
Speaker 2: to see that again. Robert woods joins the Steelers touchdown
Speaker 2: and turnover.
Speaker 1: Touchdown. Shout out to Woody, one of the greatest. Love
Speaker 1: to see it.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. I don't know how I feel about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel good for him la continue in
Speaker 2: his career, continue to find ways to places where he
Speaker 2: can add of value. You know, I don't think he'll
Speaker 2: have a lot of catches, but I think he'll he'll have,
Speaker 2: you know, a handful of meaningful catches, third downs, touchdown
Speaker 2: when they kind of need someone to just get open.
Speaker 2: He's got away with doing that. So I'm happy for
Speaker 2: him from that perspective. And he could be a cool
Speaker 2: calming force in a locker room full of crashouts. But
Speaker 2: for him, like I don't know, I don't, I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't know where that team's going because I don't
Speaker 2: know who their quarterback is. So this is like his
Speaker 2: third team in a row that he's been on that
Speaker 2: doesn't really have a clear direction that quarterback. So I
Speaker 2: kind of feel bad for him. But hey, man, get
Speaker 2: your bread feel it and the forty nine ers extended
Speaker 2: George Kitty touchdown and turnover.
Speaker 1: Is George Kitty.
Speaker 3: George Kittle, Sorry disrespectful. Yeah, man, he's one of the
Speaker 3: greatest tight ends of this era.
Speaker 1: He deserves it.
Speaker 3: He's really if they lose him, that team has cooked
Speaker 3: the rebuild. He's only thing keeping that offense together. George Kettle.
Speaker 3: I think it's like a fifth round pick just passed
Speaker 3: on him. Yeah, I'm gonna say a touchdown to.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: The forty team is going through some transition this year,
Speaker 2: and I feel like you needed to keep one of
Speaker 2: those kind of original veteran guys there, so I like
Speaker 2: your touchdown, all right? Moving on fair faith state of boxing, Canilla.
Speaker 2: Everes had a fight on his own that nobody cared about.
Speaker 2: He won, expected to have a big fight that people
Speaker 2: will actually care about, but we'll see if it actually happens.
Speaker 1: And then on Friday night, all day.
Speaker 2: ESPN was making a big spectacle out of this Ryan
Speaker 2: Garcia fight.
Speaker 1: Garcia was team.
Speaker 2: They're both fucking trash. Garcida is supposed to be favored
Speaker 2: and he got knocked out. So is the state of
Speaker 2: boxing fair fad right now?
Speaker 1: Box He's dead in the water. Bro Here's why.
Speaker 3: Canelo literally copied Floyd's playbook. But the only difference is
Speaker 3: Canelo didn't have a Hall of Fame resume up to
Speaker 3: a certain point. He just became the Mexican cash cow
Speaker 3: and then hewe he.
Speaker 1: Did not be Madeweather. He lost, know he shouldn't have.
Speaker 3: Motherfucker is throwing shots at you and catch you. He's
Speaker 3: swinging at air because he can't touch you. How is
Speaker 3: he beating you?
Speaker 1: It's crazy?
Speaker 3: Like if I just took got Floyd Mayweather and just
Speaker 3: throw in Floyd Mayware to strategy against Canelo, how does
Speaker 3: how is it not the same thing? Canelo got out
Speaker 3: boxed and out smarter, and that's why he lost. He
Speaker 3: became a superstar, No, he became a super Well. If
Speaker 3: a motherfucker smaller and faster than you is landing more
Speaker 3: punches than you, even if he's not hurting you, that
Speaker 3: means he's out smarting you on the cards.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be able to knock his ass out.
Speaker 1: He get like he tried.
Speaker 3: You gotta play the knockout game with Floyd knowing he
Speaker 3: has fucking fags. Bottom line is yeah, true boxing fans
Speaker 3: know andficiados, some of the Teddy Alice.
Speaker 1: All these motherfuckers. They know Mayweather one.
Speaker 3: But guess what Mayweather gave Canelo the superstar rub. There
Speaker 3: was nobody bigger in boxing after Floyd than Canelo. He
Speaker 3: was really like John Cena in terms of the box record.
Speaker 3: Let's let's look at the bag for umbles. Let's look
Speaker 3: at how Canelo misplayed his hand and other men and
Speaker 3: a lot of Mexicans already. Because I'm saying when we
Speaker 3: talk about boxing, because it's supposed to be him and
Speaker 3: what something Alexander or no not not that Crawford, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Tam Crawford, and people are like, oh, this isn't a
Speaker 3: great fight. I'm like, we could have had this fight
Speaker 3: like three four years ago. Bob Aar played his part,
Speaker 3: his own. Other people played their part out Haven. But
Speaker 3: my biggest thing is Canelo already lost a couple of times.
Speaker 3: He lost the old boy and he kept saying it
Speaker 3: was a fluke, but he keeps ducking Benavidez and all
Speaker 3: this other shit, and I'm just like, look, we're not
Speaker 3: getting the fights we want.
Speaker 1: The undercards are trash, and they keep.
Speaker 3: Making up titles giving it to people, and it's just
Speaker 3: the whole the whole belt system is in the is
Speaker 3: in the tank, and you're not excited to watch heavyweight
Speaker 3: boxing and the wealth wrights and all the ship that
Speaker 3: should be locked in. It's like again, it's all politics
Speaker 3: and they're not fighting each other. Everybody is afraid to
Speaker 3: eat a loss. We're not in the air of boxing
Speaker 3: that we used to be in. And it'll never go
Speaker 3: back to the way it was because y'all would rather
Speaker 3: watch Logan Paul fucking fight somebody. I mean no, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think yeah. I think it's it's everything you're saying
Speaker 3: is fair. I think, so why would I pay for boxing?
Speaker 2: I think boxing has taken a fade as soon as
Speaker 2: Mayweather commoditized the overall record. I mean once he was
Speaker 2: once he created, you know, such a long standing undefeated record,
Speaker 2: It's like that that became the most valuable thing that
Speaker 2: you could have. It it wasn't even about you know,
Speaker 2: who you fought or beating, you know, certain guys, improving yourself.
Speaker 1: It became about having the best overall record.
Speaker 2: And I think once that kind of happened, all these guys,
Speaker 2: just like you said, don't want to fight each other.
Speaker 2: No one wants to take it out because they don't
Speaker 2: think their career can bounce back. But if you look
Speaker 2: at cheating with the meat. But if you got caught, bro,
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about canw What the fuck are
Speaker 2: you talking about? I'm saying, once you start, so why
Speaker 2: are you interrupting me?
Speaker 1: For? Why are you interrupting me when I'm talking about that?
Speaker 3: The most important part that I'm not even talking about
Speaker 3: dirty and they're still allowed to fight.
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about any of that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying because Canal is the biggest name,
Speaker 3: That's why. But I'm saying, dudes in multiple camps pop
Speaker 3: dirty and they expect you to pay for this ship
Speaker 3: and watch the spectacle. We're two dudes don't want to
Speaker 3: fight each other and catch a loss, but they're still
Speaker 3: popping dirty just to make way.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm mad. Anyways, The point that I was trying
Speaker 2: to say is at some point boxing just became about
Speaker 2: preserving your record and not about who you fought. And
Speaker 2: once that happened, the storytelling and the characters lost its interest,
Speaker 2: lost its cachet. You factor in how the Olympics has
Speaker 2: gotten so much bigger. You know, all these other sports
Speaker 2: have come up. You know, we got people watching curling
Speaker 2: over watching boxing. You know, there's all these other American
Speaker 2: sports now that are in there that people are just
Speaker 2: more interested in, all these emerging sports that people are
Speaker 2: more interested. And it's really sad to see because boxing
Speaker 2: is such a beautiful sport. It's a great sport when
Speaker 2: it's executed right. The institutions have gotten so greedy and
Speaker 2: so focused on the glamour and the glitz that's not
Speaker 2: even really a pair anymore. That it's just straight away
Speaker 2: from really being a compelling competitive product on a consistent basis.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what we'll save it, but
Speaker 2: I mean I think, look at look at what the
Speaker 2: Paul brothers are doing. I mean, they're they're commoditized exactly
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, commoditizing just not losing, you know,
Speaker 2: not it's not even about who they're firing. It's just
Speaker 2: about is this going to be the time where they
Speaker 2: actually lose and people want to tune in just for that,
Speaker 2: and that's not the word of boxing. Like if you
Speaker 2: go back to the golden age of boxing, if you
Speaker 2: go back to the time that our parents are talking about,
Speaker 2: these guys took ls. Muhammad Ali took ls like they
Speaker 2: were great bouts and somebody had to be the last
Speaker 2: one standing. And then guess what, six months, nine months later, whatever,
Speaker 2: three months later, some of these guys, you run it back.
Speaker 2: But now these guys don't even want to run it back,
Speaker 2: and so it's just it's a shame. I mean, even
Speaker 2: when you think about the time boxing's last greader when
Speaker 2: we were kids, it's like, these guys took ls, Mark
Speaker 2: Tyson took ls, Holyfield took els.
Speaker 1: De la Roya took els, you know, and that's what
Speaker 1: made them relatable as well. That's what gave them redemption arcs.
Speaker 2: That's what gave them meaning beyond just standing in a
Speaker 2: ring and throwing punches at each other. Because once it
Speaker 2: became about that, that's when it just everything just became
Speaker 2: the same. I mean, I couldn't tell you the difference
Speaker 2: between a, Well, they don't have have HBO boxing, but
Speaker 2: they don't have some time boxing anymore. Head But I
Speaker 2: couldn't have told you the difference between those or ESPN
Speaker 2: or anything like that, because to everyone now, it's just
Speaker 2: two guys throwing punches at each other in a ring
Speaker 2: that's probably line in the background of a bar somewhere.
Speaker 2: But boxing used to just have so much more meeting,
Speaker 2: so much more characters, so much more cachet because people
Speaker 2: put themselves on there and they weren't afraid to lose.
Speaker 2: They weren't just fighting and not lose. They're fighting to win.
Speaker 2: They're fighting be the best.
Speaker 1: You also, to kind of throwing the point there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all those dudes were fighting back then, but they
Speaker 3: also a lot of them died broke because they were
Speaker 3: getting robbed by their promoters and who's the common denominator,
Speaker 3: bob Am Bob Aram decided, let's create a farm of
Speaker 3: the same type of stereotypical fighters and I'll just put
Speaker 3: them on TV for people to watch, a paper for
Speaker 3: people to watch, and politic the game. Because the Mafia
Speaker 3: was heavily involved in boxing, the Mafia kind of helped
Speaker 3: start boxing. The way the Mafia kind of helped start
Speaker 3: Vegas and those those bloodlines have never really been washed out.
Speaker 3: And to go back to the whole Mayweather thing, Mayweather
Speaker 3: wasn't the first person to do that. He was just
Speaker 3: the first fighter to do it in the prime of
Speaker 3: his career. And like because even before he became money Mayweather,
Speaker 3: he was a Hall of Fame boxer. Arguably was he
Speaker 3: one of the greatest. I still not fifty and oh
Speaker 3: was cool, But I'm not putting him up on my
Speaker 3: list of boxers because he wouldn't have survived Hitman, Hearns
Speaker 3: and all those other fucking savages of back in the day.
Speaker 3: Like those dudes had multiple losses on the records because
Speaker 3: they fought each other four or five times, or certain
Speaker 3: guys fought two hundred amateur fights, and like hell Sonny
Speaker 3: Listen fought like what eighty.
Speaker 1: One times or some ship like that. Like it's not
Speaker 1: feasible anymore.
Speaker 3: But I look at the business model that Floyd Mether created.
Speaker 3: He showed how the boxers how to get paid. He
Speaker 3: showed the boxers, Hey, we can do this and we
Speaker 3: can both get paid. Because fuck the promoters and if
Speaker 3: them proters don't properly book this fight.
Speaker 1: That's their fault.
Speaker 3: That's why HBO got out of How much money has
Speaker 3: Floyd made HBO just on his boxing matches alone, so
Speaker 3: he they brought sold out crowds. I think now it's
Speaker 3: just boxing doesn't have any real two stars anymore, because okay,
Speaker 3: if we know, guys are gonna fight each other, and
Speaker 3: what's the point if we know? And also boxing stopped
Speaker 3: punishing cheating. You're talking in circles, you're talking about to
Speaker 3: a different point, two points, to a different point outside
Speaker 3: of the cheating. The judges are fucking terrible. We all
Speaker 3: watch something and then the judges score fight horribly. They
Speaker 3: were like what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: Ship?
Speaker 3: Like who is this who is this judge? And how
Speaker 3: what are their credentials for covering this fucking match? And
Speaker 3: we're all watching it, and then you don't want to
Speaker 3: watch boxing anymore because you're like, fuck it.
Speaker 1: If the boxers, if the judges in boxing are.
Speaker 3: Getting it wrong all the time, I'd rather watch Logan
Speaker 3: Paul because at least is funnier.
Speaker 1: So yeah, boxing killed boxing.
Speaker 3: Boxing curditone integrity and credibility with the stupid ship that
Speaker 3: is leftly.
Speaker 2: All right, on that note, Hookah's brother hit a fan
Speaker 2: out a UFL game, uh to his brother's playing in
Speaker 2: the UFL.
Speaker 3: Hey, fair, f keep your hands up in your chin up, bitch,
Speaker 3: that shit's fair. He swung first. It's not my fault
Speaker 3: if you swing first. And I poppy fist.
Speaker 2: This reminds me of minor le hockey when they say, uh,
Speaker 2: it's crazy because fans really be just heckling the fuck
Speaker 2: out of players and fans just being their drunk as fuck.
Speaker 1: So I just think it's hilarious that that happened.
Speaker 2: I don't think it bodes well for his brothers uh
Speaker 2: prospects of moving on from the UFL, but it's definitely
Speaker 2: a notable story.
Speaker 1: And and yeah, man, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure some of these fans, these these tier two, tier
Speaker 2: three markets that the UFL is, and sure some of
Speaker 2: these fans you know, don't have the same pro sports
Speaker 2: etiquette that we expect, and frankly, with everything going on
Speaker 2: in the world, they're probably just racist pieces and ship.
Speaker 1: But it was a fat white dude was a fat
Speaker 1: all right, let's close out the show anymore, all.
Speaker 3: Right, Please don't be weak or fair, all right, fair faid,
Speaker 3: don't make me forget.
Speaker 1: Fair faid this gorilla debate.
Speaker 3: Look, look, look looks this guys, we're having we're having
Speaker 3: a fun time with this, like one gorilla versus one
Speaker 3: hundred men. But you gender war motherfuckers are You're coming
Speaker 3: to the conversation and no one invited you? Okay, we
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 1: Account one hundred women versus accountability. Ha ha ha.
Speaker 3: Well now it spins off of too some man hating
Speaker 3: ship and now both sides are mad.
Speaker 1: Man, we can't even get up. We can't even just
Speaker 1: have an enjoy ship because you want a gender war.
Speaker 3: Guess what if you're a millennial, you're probably broke as
Speaker 3: fuck out here. We can't even get a hundred fucking
Speaker 3: lives to get out fucking Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: We can't get one hundred people to do anything. What
Speaker 1: makes us think we're just gonna take down to gorilla?
Speaker 3: And also the real secret is just find another fucking gorilla,
Speaker 3: which I know is the plot of every single fucking
Speaker 3: King Kong and God's Ziln movie.
Speaker 1: But now you fucking know why.
Speaker 3: Because unless you can all fuse together on some Naruto
Speaker 3: shit and move and sync with each other and become
Speaker 3: one super hundred person.
Speaker 1: Fucking gorilla can literally run with.
Speaker 3: The explosion of a fucking semi truck, Like, I don't
Speaker 3: think that's doning on people, Like imagine the speech trying
Speaker 3: to stop a fucking semi truck. Imagine and grab his
Speaker 3: arms and.
Speaker 1: Then what pierce his eyes so he can get more
Speaker 1: pissed off? Right?
Speaker 3: And what if one of them just start again? If
Speaker 3: it starts throwing shit at you at ninety miles an hour,
Speaker 3: You're not ready to see someone die like that, but
Speaker 3: you will. And what if you're the last motherfucker the
Speaker 3: grill to start speaking? What if what if you let's
Speaker 3: just say let's just say no, it takes ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Are the three that left? Are you any better off? No?
Speaker 1: You're not? Yellow Jackets Season one? No, here we fucking go.
Speaker 1: Christina Ricci, I love Christina Rici. Hey fucking yellow Jackie references.
Speaker 3: Why it's a great show. But yeah, you last three
Speaker 3: are Yellow Jackets characters. Just FYI, all right.
Speaker 1: Go to your end. Talk about what you want to
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 3: What I want to talk about is, oh man, it's funny,
Speaker 3: like my my my nephew is gonna be four this month,
Speaker 3: and I just think about how fast and how much
Speaker 3: life he's experienced in only four years. Like for him,
Speaker 3: it feels like he's a he's a break, he's a
Speaker 3: new person. Every time I see him, hair getting longer,
Speaker 3: he put up my baseball cap, almost started crying.
Speaker 1: Nephew.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be six months pretty soon on the seventh,
Speaker 3: actually will be six months old. I'm just like, I
Speaker 3: look back at pictures of Isaiah when he was six
Speaker 3: months old, eight months old, and him and his brother
Speaker 3: look exactly alike, and it's just kind of funny, kind
Speaker 3: of looking at my own mortality. My mom's birthday is
Speaker 3: coming up this month too. She'll be sixty one on
Speaker 3: the fifteenth, and she and like with me, my two
Speaker 3: sisters and my mom were like, man, when when we're
Speaker 3: thirty three and thirty and twenty seven or whatever, mom
Speaker 3: will be sixty one. They're like, damn, Mom, imagine you
Speaker 3: at sixty And like, now that it's here, it's like, fuck,
Speaker 3: that's crazy. Like we really like our generation. Our time
Speaker 3: is kinna passed to a certain extent, Like, yeah, some
Speaker 3: of us are having fun, some of us are raising kids,
Speaker 3: but we're all out here fucking trying. And we know
Speaker 3: a lot of people who didn't make it this far,
Speaker 3: Like I know people who just didn't make it to
Speaker 3: thirty and I'm here at thirty three, Like fuck, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Like my grandfather's been dead twenty nine years this year,
Speaker 3: Like my grandfather was. I was four when my grandfather died,
Speaker 3: and it's scared like me sometimes and my mom sometimes
Speaker 3: she's like, damn, my father's children all outlived him. My
Speaker 3: granddad was sixty one when he died. It's just like fuck,
Speaker 3: time flies. Thirty three years has gone by very quickly.
Speaker 3: Four years went by like nothing, Like four years feels
Speaker 3: like nothing. And my nephew's the whole human being here,
Speaker 3: just chilling, taking snacks, rolling up with my arms, hugging
Speaker 3: me every time she sees me, and the hug gets
Speaker 3: stronger and stronger every time he sees me. It's just like, damn, man,
Speaker 3: I didn't know I'd become this person so fast. It's
Speaker 3: like we all wanted to grow up and fucking look
Speaker 3: at us now.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: For me, there's a lot on my mind this week.
Speaker 2: My sister Chandre and my oldest siblings. She graduated from
Speaker 2: Saint Mark, or she hasn't officially graduated, but she's going
Speaker 2: to graduate in a month, and so they had her
Speaker 2: Latin recognition this past weekend, which is basically like a
Speaker 2: pre graduation ceremony, So that was cool. Got to spend
Speaker 2: some time with her and she was happy, so that
Speaker 2: was good. And then my brother's making a decision on
Speaker 2: his school. He's more than likely going to go to season,
Speaker 2: depending on some everything shakeout, but.
Speaker 1: So that's good for him. And how that going on.
Speaker 2: Seeing her graduate, you know, my brother essentially going to
Speaker 2: season now just making me think about my last ten
Speaker 2: years and my next ten years and where I want
Speaker 2: to be. And it's both an exciting time because man,
Speaker 2: it's so much easier to do a lot of things,
Speaker 2: but with that it's awesome. Made things a lot more competitive,
Speaker 2: a lot harder to contain, a lot more uncertain, and
Speaker 2: with so much going on in the world, it's hard
Speaker 2: to say or be out any year two years or
Speaker 2: three years orfore. And so you know, I was just
Speaker 2: doing my best to take a day by day and
Speaker 2: take the opportunities that are put in front of me
Speaker 2: and try to make the best of them. But outside
Speaker 2: of that, man, yeah, I'm still just morning this Clippers
Speaker 2: team lost.
Speaker 1: I mean, between.
Speaker 2: Fifteen years of Blake and Kawhi to have nothing from
Speaker 2: from two I was staying individuals and franchise players. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: And James Harden, I mean, he got us here. He's
Speaker 2: never missed the playoffs and his whole career. He was
Speaker 2: third and total offense this year with passes and assists,
Speaker 2: and he's still one of my favorite players. But he
Speaker 2: just didn't come up when we needed him to, and
Speaker 2: you could see his frustration. You can see Kawhi's frustration
Speaker 2: and just seems like that dude was gonna fall apart.
Speaker 1: And Tylu same thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, between those three guys, they're all very cool
Speaker 2: Colm Kalt to people, but someone needed to get emotional there.
Speaker 2: Someone needed to snap everyone out of it. Someone needed
Speaker 2: to tell folks we're gonna be okay. But those three guys,
Speaker 2: that's not really in their DNA naturally.
Speaker 1: So the result is the result.
Speaker 3: Another first round bounds, another laugh football collapse, another so
Speaker 3: far so close season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the very least I got my Raiders to
Speaker 2: look forward too. So we're just really proud of the
Speaker 2: team finally looking competent. I mean, they got enough draft
Speaker 2: picks to where they could take some guys who might
Speaker 2: be they developmental pieces or might be projects, because they
Speaker 2: had enough flexibility to also take some of the better obvious,
Speaker 2: best player available picks and so that combination has just
Speaker 2: got me really excited once again. The RAMS just keep
Speaker 2: taking players that I interview, so I know someone's someone's
Speaker 2: listening to my tape out there, But yeah, man, this
Speaker 2: touchdowns and tangents, TD's underscore tangents on Twitter and Instagram.
Speaker 1: We are out Peace,