Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Inquisition, and today we have a
very special guest joining me and Pete and Thomas.
Speaker 2: Jose. Nina is here.
Speaker 1: Jose, what's up man. I've been following your work very
closely the last couple months.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for having me on. I
really look forward to the discussion, and also I appreciate
you following my work as well.
Speaker 4: Astrol.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've seen you around a while, but
it was really when you started talking about Venezuela that
I not only like dug into your work, but I
started following the links that you share in your articles
and I've learned a lot. And you'd had a great
episode with Pete myth of the twentieth Century. You had
a pretty strong week. So you guys have covered a lot.
So I want to just jump right into it because
we've a lot to cover in a short amount of time, so,
you know, taking all of our previous conversations in context. Here,
the first thing I want to talk to you about,
and the reason I invited you on was to talk
about China and Israel in Latin America because if there's
any angle for me to get behind what we're doing
in Venezuela. It's because of what China is doing there
and the influence that China is having in our hemisphere.
They're obviously, you know, I don't have to make the
argument I've made it elsewhere that China is not our
friend at least in many major ways fentanyl trade, embargos,
violating trade and bargos, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But through your work, through following your.
Speaker 1: Links and reading much more about Latin America, I see
that China is all over.
Speaker 2: Latin America and so is Israel. So what's going on there?
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you want to start talking about
China and Israel and are they vying for control and
influence over South America.
Speaker 3: Well, start off, China is more economically involved in Latin America,
and that's generally the byproduct of the fact that after
the Global War on terror es actially during that era,
the US started to just stop looking at Latin America,
and as a result, China has expanded its trade portfolio
not just across like Asia Africa, but also in Latin America.
Just get raw materials like copper, like from Chile and
other countries. It's more economically dominant in South America. Than
it is in Central America, with exception of maybe country
like Panama, but it's mostly in the economic terms where
it's much more dominant. It's not very even in Venezuela,
which is one of the countries that's been mostly involved
in there's very little evidence, contrary to what a lot
of neokon and interventions types say that that relationship was
turning into like a military type where they're going to
set up bases, like in a Cuban missile crisis style
of fashion. It's very much in the economic terms. Now.
Israel is interesting because it's been involved in the region
for actually a while, and it's one of the first
countries that you saw very intense military cooperation with Israel
is Guatemala during its civil war in the early sixties
up until the nineties, and there's a multitude of reasons
for this relationship. Guatemala was one of the first countries
to recognize the state of Israel in the late forties.
It's also a country where the United States was heavily
involved in with regards to promoting Prosionist evangelical Christianity there,
and that created a natural, well really an artificial base
of support for Zionism in Guatemala, and when you had
the civil war there, Guatemala was trade embargoed by numerous countries,
so it turned to Israel for armaments and other military support.
Since then, there have been other countries over the years
that have increasingly been subjected to Israeli influenced Panama for example,
Menue nor Diego. His handler was apparently a guy by
the name of Mike Career who was a massade commander
of sorts and a director for a lot of assassinations,
and towards the end of his career in the late eighties,
he was really embedded in Latin American affairs and was
close to nor Diega, and apparently he was able to
get the drop on Nordega right before the Americans invaded.
He was able to learn firsthand beforehand that the US
is planning to invade Panama and take out Noriega, so
he skipped down and he ended up going back to Israel.
But since then, especially after the end of the Cold
War during the Unipolar moment, many countries in Latin America
started to normalize or at least strengthen the ties of Israel.
For example, Argentina during it's so called like neoliberal era
of the nineteen nineties, where many of these countries started
opening up their markets to not just like a US,
but also just broader Jewish finance. They began to normalize
relations of Israel, especially Argentina, and Argentina is probably the
crown jewel right now because they have the most philo
Semitic pro Israel president in Javier Melay. And that project
has been decades in the making in many respects because
with the administration of Carlos Menim in the nineteen nineties,
who ironically is of Syrian Confession, but he converted to Catholicism,
that's when this financialization happened, and also the normalization of
relations with Argentina happened and them getting Also the election
of Bolscenaro two gave a boost to this project as
well because he is how your bolscenario is very connected
to many global Zionist networks that promote a lot of
like the so called zio populism as I like to
label it in Latin America and the United States, which
is a bunch of populist parties that are very pro
Zionists and that have numerous pro Zionist patrons, and that
has also been gaining momentum. And though the lynchpin is
clearly Argentina with Mela and now you have got the
ISAAC Cords, which is like a diplomatic initiative being rolled
out by Bulay and just really the broader Jewish network
that supports him, that just what's to make Latin America
a safe space for Jewish supremacy. And they're looking at
countries such as obviously Argentina, Paraguay, and then others like Chile,
Costa Rica, Panama as signatories for the ISAAC Cords. And
this is a project that goes kind of like beyond
like the neo conservatism of your now it's just more
explicit about making the world safe not for democracy but
for Jewish supremacy. And they're extrapolating the Abraham Accords model
that we see in the Middle East to Latin America.
And that's how what's starting to really gain a lot
of traction there well.
Speaker 5: And in Argentina, just real quick, I mean, Argentina was
literally than the locale of the National Socialist resistance after
the war. Johann von Weers was there, Hans Elwick Rudel
was literally like a minister without portfolio to parone out
of skorsein he was a paramore of a vita parone
for agredible purposes. It was a national social estate. They
hated Israel. You know, That's why there's it's it almost
became a there's something of a comedic convention and something
like that. Boys from Brazil like oo Argentina. There's a
bunch of ex Nazis running around there, you know, I
mean's the reason why Jose Jose's absolutely right. I put
Honduras on there too. After during the surge and when
Blackwater was a kind of having trouble with their with
their public image and they started to kind of reconstitute
and shift personnel around those branding. They got a bunch
of Hon Durant mercenaries on their payroll who are running
around in Iraq. And that, I mean, that goes back
to the Cold War. But that the Hon Duras government
is is as thick as thieves with oh yeah yeah,
these Zionists outfits go ahead.
Speaker 6: Was I don't mean a row No.
Speaker 3: I forgot to mention as well, Juan Hernando or Hernandez,
the guy that Trump recently pardoned, the former president. He
for all intents and purposes. Based on my research, he's
actually could be argued to be not just like a
pro Israel supporter, which he was during his time as president,
he was a pretty much a masad a Israeli asset, because,
for example, he was trained in the nineties, like as
a young man under this program called Mashav, which is
like the Israeli Agency for International Development Cooperation for all
intensive purposes. It's a good Israeli soft power type of
program that's used to do outreach in the global South,
especially in many of these Central American countries with large
evangelical populations, and also in Africa increasingly as well. This
is like a go to program, and he was cultivated
as a hey a asset of sorts, and he was
for his work in Honduras he received like a Friend
of Zion award, and he was also very connected to
certain elements of of Hunter and Jewry, the Rosenthal family,
for example, Highmail Rosenthal, who was the owner of a
prominent bank and soccer club in the country. A group
of that's the Consortium, was a notable backer of Hernandez,
and Rosenthal himself was a perennial presidential candidate but he
found more of a role as a king maker there. Yes,
Central America is especially Guatemala and Honduras. Those are two
key pro Zionist countries. I would also add pre Gustavo
Petro Columbia as well, given the fact that Columbia was
the United States most reliable security partner in South America.
It's also received significant military aid and training from Israeli
State and also from mercenaries like Yai Or klient I
wrote a recent article about him as well of My
Villains of Judea series on Substack, and he was also
quite prominent there. And I think that's another country that's
gonna be on the ISAAC Cords list, probably one of
the top priorities because of the fact that it really
went on it and took a anti Zionist turn under
Gusavo Petro, who's going to be out of office in
a few months anyways. But they're definitely have their eyes
on Columbia. But Central America is where it seems to be.
It's it's where Israeli infoot is at its strongest. In
Latin America for example. Another interesting factoid about going back
to Panama, it is the only country in Latin America
that does it recognize the state of Palestine either.
Speaker 2: Let me ask a question.
Speaker 1: When I looked into like the drug trade coming out
of Venezuela and then when I saw them reinstall or
at least let out of prison the guy from Honduras,
something occurred to me that you basically just verified. My
suspicion is that these guys are going to take over
the When I say these guys, I mean like the Israelis, Masad,
the CIA. My suspicion is that they're they're doing this
to like retake over, to take back the drug trade.
If I remember correct, I think it was two thousand
and nine, there was a coup, a US backed coup
and Hunturis that ousted the leader. And I don't know
if this guy Hernandez was immediately installed at that time,
but he came to power after that coup, and then
you know, Honduras became like the central drug trafficking hub
from Central America, which was preceded by Panama as the
central drug trafficking hub when the CIA and Massade and
all these Israelis were there. So my suspicion is that
they're like, among other things, they're doing other things too.
They're taking over. They're going to take over the drug
trade with this Venezuela thing. And what you said about
Colombia is very interesting because without Colombia, they couldn't traffic
the drugs east through Colombia, they'd have to go south.
Speaker 6: I own, I.
Speaker 5: Think it's a lot of cap with Trump talking about
drugs like he's nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's all it's one hundred percent cap.
Speaker 5: But one of the problems with that entire narrative of
the of the you know, the State Department and the
White House, there's not this cartel structure like there was
thirty years ago. It doesn't exist, you know, I mean, yeah,
with the regime calls cartels. There's guys under arms who
basically contacts anybody who's trying to move weight through the
territory they control. But the idea there's this top down
structure where there's some guy like Escobar and he controls
exclusive monopoly access to where coca is being harvested and
you know, everywhere down from production, refinement, distribution to the
point of purchase. His organization controls that. That doesn't exist.
And one of the reasons why there's all this garbage
literal poison ending up on the American street. It's just
like it's just like Frankenstein synthetic opiates. There's probably not
even any real cocaine on the street anymore. And such
that there is, it's coming from half a dozen places,
and it's it's it's upstart guys just doing shit, you know.
I mean, like that's what it is. So I mean,
I don't and plus two anymore, or I mean, don't
get me wrong. There's like due power and money all
over the global drug trade. But it's basically when it
became clear you couldn't do like what the Stackler family
did anymore. Domestically, those guys are fucking around all over
this planet, man, Like literally they're like pumping that poison
into Africa. It's being prescribed. They're doing it in you know,
they all over the global South. You know they're doing it.
I'm sure they're plugged into these I'm sure they're plugged
into some of these healthcare charities. You know, they're flooding
supposedly underserved areas, you know, with medications and doctors without
borders and stuff. I mean, some of those into some
of those NGOs do good things, but some of them
do not. Okay, I'm not pining everybody with the same brush,
but that's important to understand and what changed everything and
landed big gas in a second. You know, the global
heroin trade collapsed after the Taliban took over Afghanistan. It
doesn't exist anymore. You might be able to find h
That's why the only seizeer you hear about are fentomyl.
You might if you go down to the Southwest, you
might be able to find guys. I mean, I have
no idea you might be able to find You might
find guys moving like low quality tar heroin over the border.
But I mean that's it. Like the whole narco trade is.
It's it's it's dominated by synthetic garbage that literally poisons
and kills people. There's dozens of people trying to trying
to cash in on it because the logi production can
literally be anywhere if you have the precursors. It's recomplicated.
I think the big Venezuela, the big reason Venezuela was targeted.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's what it was.
Speaker 5: They said they were a resistance settlement contra the desion.
Speaker 6: Is power play.
Speaker 5: But they also when they when they decided, when they
announced that they were going to pursue full membership in
the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, that was it, okay, there, you're
gonna get murked if you do that. And frankly, whether
I think that's good or bad, I mean that is
congruous with the Monroe doctrine as intended in press practice,
as it's been for the last one hundred years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 7: Well, one of the I talked with an old friend yesterday,
Keith Preston, I know Jose is us familiar with him,
you know, basically released an episode tonight. He's saying, you know,
even if you get this, this whole structure of multi multipolarity,
even if it is instituted, it's still globalism. It's still
going to work in a global framework. The financialization of
markets isn't going away. The drug trade isn't stopping. This
is just it's it's a it's to try to keep
a structure. It's trying to keep a people happy and
to keep people you know, fat and satisfied so that
they don't figure out exactly what's going on. Oh, things
are getting better. We're going to just worry about our
own hemisphere, but it's still going to be globalism, it's
still going to be all the trappings of Judea. So
I mean it doesn't really mean anything.
Speaker 5: Well, then it's also i mean Trump look at exactly
what Trump does. It's it's like it's like Carl said
the other week, trum Trump says things and then doesn't
do anything, like even I mean sometimes I think that's
good because he'll talk, you know, all this shit about
who's going to destroy Iran? But then there's never any execution,
but he'll talk about, uh, you know, it's whole Supposedly
on the foreign policy front, his entire platform was you know,
we're gonna stop, We're gonna put a stop these entanglements
that are so wasteful and precluding a sensible foreign policy.
So like Zelenski gets like more American money in like
more weapons, you know, I mean it's like and then
is uh, I mean said at all the fact that
during Trump's first term you had these uh you had
these Pentagon theories, uh talking like proudly talking about how
you know, they were engaged in active and subordination and
they simply don't actually get the president's orders when it's
not with their little make work program in Aghanistan, Like,
what the fuck is that? So basically Trump is admitting
he's a cook, you know, one of that's some sort
of ruse so as to not be held accountable for
these policies, or whether it's the truth. I tend to
believe it's a little of both. I mean that the
whole thing's preposterous. And yeah, like what would what exactly
would America first mean after you know, and under globalism
at scale? I mean that, don't get me wrong, Like
I probably keep President seems like.
Speaker 6: A really good dude. Like I don't know him personally,
but I've followed him for years. I don't know off.
Speaker 5: But globalism at scale is what's gonna make nullification secession
possible because of the free mobility of capital and other things.
And that's great, you know, that's that's how we accomplished liberation.
But yeah, the idea that there's gonna be some policy
shift or that the world's going to return the discrete
spheres of influence restricted by you know, the limitations of
technology and things that no longer exist unless you were
able to turn the clock back, which isn't possible unless
you're gonna pull something like year zero, which I don't
think is the stomach ward. That's probably good. Yeah, it's
it's a fantasy, it's it's people. It's intellectual masturbation writ large,
and like all masturbation that tends to cause blind spots.
Speaker 4: Well when it comes to nullification and everything.
Speaker 7: I think Keith would agree with you, definitely, yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I just I think, I mean,
I'm Aye Gaily And that's why I like some of
these helos and and and people are mentally retarded, like
they claim that I'm like a Marxist or something. I mean,
I I the cutting of reason is is a you know,
the hand of God in history, and it's this the
regims sowing the seeds of its own demise with its
efforts at progress. I mean, that's that's always the case,
you know, and you can't you can't stop that process.
Speaker 6: And they're not. They don't.
Speaker 5: There's not even a back bench cadre of people who
are like young or young Ash and Hungary and understand
the twenty first century they did this, this parasite class,
you know, they're they're the Soviet nomenclans or a two
point zero. That's probably pretty Randy, I'll give it back
to you.
Speaker 2: Guys, Jose your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I've always suspected that is Real was,
especially in Latin America now was getting back in as
well to take part in illicit activities like drug trafficking,
and I think also as well a lot of strip
mining and other type of resource extraction related activities, because
it's an open secret that is reel sources of funding
are actually quite suspicious. This is a country that has
massive tax of Asian as like a social norm, so
it's got to get its money somewhere, and obviously it's
it bleeds the US and the West dry. But I've
also read reports over the years, especially of like in
cartel violence, like in Mexico, you'll find every now and
then several Israeli nationals among the dead. And I've it's
been my assumption that they are pretty notable players in
those markets, and I expect them their activity to be
more pronounced as Israel starts to become more focused in
Latin America. Try to not just maintain like a foothold
in the the public affairs, but also in the shadows
as well. Well.
Speaker 1: If I can jump in real quick, this strip mining
thing you're talking about. This is what the gorilla armies do.
This is what this is how they get started. I
mean even trend de Arago got started not by strip
mining but shaking down government contract infrastructure projects. But the
eln the FARC, when they were going strong in Columbia,
they were all the eln Is supposedly still involved in
strip mining, the cartels as well. They also get in
on the oil trade which is nationalized in Mexico. And
basically all these gorilla armies this is how they make
their money.
Speaker 5: Well, also, Israel has a total Israel doesn't have a
normal like anonic profile. Like It's interesting during the nineties
when MDMA or some variant of it, you know, it
was huge when like ecstasy was everywhere, pretty much all
the ecstacy was coming from Israel or the Netherlands. You know,
they cornered the market on that in a major way.
But other than weapons, I guess some high tech stuff,
particularly hardware like knockoff computer chips and things like what
the fuck is Israel produce doesn't produce anything it so
it's not if it's not basically a massive uh money
wandering operation, slash tax shelter for you know, people in
the tribe like, what the fuck is it? You know,
it's a bunch of it's a buch of heavily armed,
hyper racialized people sitting on sand. I mean like that's
literally that sounds like gonna be funny, but that that's
actually what it is.
Speaker 1: Jose, So I know I got that broadly correct though,
that there was a two thousand and nine CIA Backku
and Honduras, and this guy, I think he said his
name was Hernandez, the one Trump let out of prison,
came to power soon after, and then they became the
cocaine hub of Central America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Hernandez himself this was two thousand and nine,
but he came into office like twenty fourteen, twenty thirteen.
But that that coup created the environment for his eventual
set And if I am not mistaken, the guy who
was deposed, Manuel Selaya, was replaced initially by Roberto Micheletti,
and then I forget who the other successor was, but
it was another guy before Hernandez. But yeah, I was
gonna go really pimotous period. But the whole point of
that coup was to just create a to create like
institutional instability, which is perfect for these type of Carteloisian
like drug running outfits to set up shop. And then
Hernandez came into the picture of twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, and so there's a I know, you guys talked
on Peach Show about the forest fires in Patagonia and
there's I guess there's talk of well, I've heard two
different theories. One is that it's going to be a settlement.
I think you guys talked about that. But then the
other thing is for mining for resource extraction, that there's
a law right that if you know this place is
subject to a forest fire, then companies can go in
and speculate for mining. But as far as like a
Jewish Israeli diaspora in South America, I mean, how prominent
is that. I know there's one in Brazil.
Speaker 2: Are you q Oh, yeah, Jacka was very important. That's
a good point.
Speaker 3: Arentina has a sizeable one as well, because Milay the
way he got elected was he effectively just went to
the Jewish lobby, especially the Hubbad sect, the other weird
ultra Orthodox organizations there for support. Arentina's is generally like
in the top ten largest Jewish communities in the world,
and it's also in the Western hemisphere. It's like the
in the top three behind like the US, and now
it's become even more prominent.
Speaker 4: A lot of it.
Speaker 3: Initially, Theodore Rehearsal was flirting with the idea of establishing
a Jewish state. Never came to pass there because they
obviously preferred Israel. But there were some other Jews, especially
of Aushkinasi extraction from like Russia and like the Pale
Settlement that settled down to build their little own co
ops there.
Speaker 6: But those were to just real quick.
Speaker 5: You know, Argentina is basically a European country, and a
long time, I mean jose can Tolio about this for
a long time really until the nineties, really until the depression,
people would talk about Argentina as it's going to be
the United States of South America. It's going to be
this hugely powerful country. So there was all kinds of
excitement and hype and even people you know, who were
not looking for short term profits but in terms of
long term developmental capital investment, they thought Argentina was gonna
be huge and it is an important country, but yeah,
go ahead. That's thus hurtsil and the entire World Jewish
Congress whatever. Yeah, the World Jewish Congress and stuff. That's
why they were interested in it. In part yeah, I
don't mean they interrupted.
Speaker 3: Well, well, yeah, that's a really good point that Thomas
raised that Argentina well into the nineties at least was
seen at like the United States, as a very much
like a pan European state for the most part, and
it was has been able. It has been a magnet
for migration, like everywhere from Germany, Italy, France, and even
you can find significant Balkan like Montenegrin immigration, immigration from
the Levant as well, like Lebanon, Syria, like the case
I mentioned with Carlos Menem being a Syrian extraction. You
can find like all sorts of groups, and Jews were
also prominently there at some point, and they've become much
more influential, especially after the collapse of the Soviet Union,
because I think the turning point, well really after the
end of the Falkland Wars is when you saw the
Argentine system just start to become much more pro Judeo
American and open itself up to global finance, and that
became a vector for a greater Jewish influence in the country.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's not a mistake that. Like when
Malay got elected, the first thing he did was hop
on a plane and go to Habad headquarters and fringing Brooklyn.
I mean he literally did that. People think it's like
a meme, but that was the first thing. Yeah, he
went to headquarters to go to to go to Schneerson's grave,
and it's like yeah, and like all these libertarians were
celebrating because an a narco capitalist got elected president and
and they started calling Hans Hermann Happa a Lalbert because
Hans is like, he's a Zionist.
Speaker 4: He's not he's not a libertarian. He's not an arco capitalist.
He is a Zionist. What are you celebrating about?
Speaker 5: That's why that's what namblestands were. North American Man Boy
Libertarian Association. No Liberty Libertarians are future long pig like
uh in uh after ncigue there. They're gonna be butchered
and cut into strips and some of their skins gonna
be dried out as a jerky. You'll be able to
purch it in gas stations. Their intestines will be used
for sauce casing, and the remainder will be sold to
other tribes as long pig meat, and that'll be the
end of libertarians. They'll be turned into poop. But for
give that little tangent, but no the interestingly, uh, if
you'll permit the insinuation a little bit of trivia. Pavolish
settled in Argentina. I mean not just because it was
an an access friendly regime as as Spain was, but
there there was a croat X back community, particularly after
Tito and the Partisans were victorious.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: There it wasn't just usta shut and and chetnecks that
you know around the house with the regime. There there
was all kinds of people. And if you were a
Serbo Croatian speaker, it's not as if you had like
an abundance of places where you could get by, you know,
just like as an emigrat or a political refugee, but
you could in Argentina and Pablo a tenative work and
as a brick layer for some like Croatian or Bosnia
com firm.
Speaker 1: It was really interesting, if you guys are okay moving on.
I was not intending to bring up Mexico, but Thomas
mentioned them, and that's a really great point. Especially in
light of the Epstein files just dropping very little do
I see connections, especially in the media, with Nexium. And
it's really weird how the Nexium cult went down right
around the time of Epstein. I almost wondered if it
was a distraction or a cover up or something. I
don't know why those things happened at the same time,
but maybe the Justice Department was onto the whole network
and they were going after them all. But people don't
remember the Nexium cult, whose leader, who was a goy
by the way, is in prison right now. They were
all down in Mexico City. They had a whole enclave
down there, and I just remember thinking, what is this
Jewish you know, chabbad because that's what they were, the Bronfmans.
They met in a chabbad like synagogue, you know, learning class.
What were they doing down there in Mexico. Why did
they have an enclave in Mexico and what was their
connection to Epstein?
Speaker 6: Go ahead, well, it's the thing to understand about Mexico.
Speaker 5: It's a conspiratorial society and traditionally the Soviet embassy in
Mexico City, that's where you know the film The Falcon,
The Snowman. I mean that that's a real story, Like
Chris Boyce's buddy Dalton Lee. Dalton Lee first made contact
with the man who became their KGB handler by approaching
the Soviet embassy in Mexico. Like that's where Lee Herbie
Oswald first approached to discuss his defection. Anybody who was
in the spy game during the height of the Cold War,
Mexico City, a lot of a lot of things happened there.
A lot of people got murdered there in the espionage game,
and if you wanted to make contact, particularly as a defector,
that was where you did it, you know. So there's
that and the Mormons, and of course too if you've
got beyond those sorts of political intrigues and intelligence related activities,
if you've got money to spend and you don't want
people asking questions, you can set up shop in Mexico
and if you grease the right palms, you'll pretty much
be left alone. That's why there's you know, there's this
long standing Mormon enclave there. Okay, I'm not saying Mormons
are up to bad things or something. What I'm saying
is that traditionally Mormons weren't particularly liked by the federal government.
People forget that they initially seceded and then when they
realized Lincoln was in it to win it, they stepped
back from that proposition because they weren't ready to go
to go against the guns. But they did not have
an amiable relationship with the authorities, you know. But they
had a lot of money, and they had a lot
of people with a lot of skills, particularly agriculture, at
scaling things. So you go to Mexico with that to
offer the global authorities, you'll basically be left alone.
Speaker 6: You know that. That's a lot to do with it.
Speaker 5: So if you want to set up some kind of
cult or some kind of money glaundering operation, or some
kind of perverted sex.
Speaker 6: Thing or all of the above, you know, you gotta
be doing that over the border.
Speaker 5: Eventually, if you tried doing that here, you're gonna end
up like that.
Speaker 6: That Warren Jeffrey's guy. He was the guy with the
whole like uh.
Speaker 5: Church of the original Letterday Saints Compound, right, We had
like a bunch of underage girls that he was carrying
on with. He got rated and obviously now he's you know,
been buried by football numbers, you know, so it's important.
I mean, don't get me wrong. I think with an
Mexian cult there probably is something there. But just because
people are doing crazy shady things in Mexico, it doesn't
mean that they have some sort of sympathetic cadre and government.
It just means that they got the money to keep
people off their back.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: And also Trotsky went there and that's where he was
under yep exactly.
Speaker 2: Jose or Pete.
Speaker 3: I think really odd my end I'm not Mexico is
not as much of a strong suit for me, but
it will be an interesting spot to seem for these
type of ISAAC Accords operations unfolding in the next few years,
because I have been noticing two and this is based
off my previous experience working in the DC think tank
space with a lot of Latin American people that these
networks these a lot of these people are part of
very similar networks like the Atlas network that promote people
like Malay and other pro Zionist figures. And I'm going
to be interested to see how those type of interest
groups intersect and type of alliances they make in the
moves they make and the shadows in the next few years,
because I do remember Malay from a while back. This
was like from circa twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen, when
he was just like a fringe figure that people would
post on the Internet some of my mutuals like on
Facebook and this is the one. He was just like
an eccentric media personality who would occasionally run for office
and only get like two percent of the vote. But
it's very clear that once he went to the local
hub Odd network that his profile just skyrocket. And I
believe that that model may be replicated by a good
deal of future political aspirants in Latin America and other
countries in the region.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean next to him, I won't. I won't
belabor that. I pointed it out basic mainly because of
the Epstein file dump just now.
Speaker 5: It's incredibly weird. I mean yeah, I mean into firms,
But yeah, it's a weird coincidence.
Speaker 7: The thing where Ferris modd you know, maybe talk a
little bit about this Epstein thing. Feris modd over in England.
He just went to work looking at like the geopolitics
of what was released. It's literally insane how insinuated this
guy was into different I mean he was the Saudi's
contacted him to negotiate between them and Yemeny tribes.
Speaker 6: Well he was.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the whole point I've been making about
Epstein from day one, and the reason why I posted
uh Bars Donald Barr's bizarre like pedophilic science fiction. You
gotta understand what Epstein was.
Speaker 6: He was a guy.
Speaker 5: And despite the fact that see Epstein's whole family backgrounds
were he murky and deliberately obscured. They claim that his
father was this guy named Seymour Epstein, who was the
son of Russian Jewish immigrants who worked as a gardener
and was poor, but that the neighborhood Epstein grew up
in was a super zip okay, And there was another
Seymour Epstein, approximately the same age as this guy who
was supposed to his father, who worked on the Manhattan
Project and was very very close to William Donovan, you know,
wild Bill Donovan. So Epstein goes this somehow too. You're
supposed to believe that like he came in this like
working poor family, but he goes to this elite boarding
school and then Barr essentially takes him on as like
his surrogate son, you know, And Barr is this guy
who Barr could move in odd places. I obviously Barr
was was a very powerful Jew, but he also was
in with these OSS guys. And despite what they they
portray and moves like the good Shepherd. The OSS was
a bunch of Catholic ethnics. It wasn't we we kin'd
of have Negros or Catholics among us. No, no, no, no, no.
Wild Bill Donovan was as irish as they come. James
d Angleton was a Catholic born in Mexico. In my head,
so Barr he could get along. He he he could
get along with the wast State Department types two, he
could move in three different worlds.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 5: And despite what people you know in Epstein, basically you know,
Gislaine Maxwell, her father was one of the most powerful
non royals in the United Kingdom, and he basically he
basically gave his daughter to Epstein.
Speaker 6: You know, but your wide was some guy he really liked.
Speaker 5: What am I mean? Come on, it's obvious. This dude
was a huge intelligence asset. Who is basically minister without
portfolio successive administrations, who was on top of that. I mean,
he was like a bag man from Asade and US intelligence.
I mean, he was all these things, but he was
h you know, and he wasn't either, I know. One
of the things people say, and interestingly, the economist raised
this and the economy is a shit rag. But they
people will claim even in legacy media, I mean, not
that legacy is credible, but they'll claim, oh, Epstein made
his money in Wall Street.
Speaker 6: No he didn't.
Speaker 5: Epstein didn't know anything about finance. He never worked on
Wall Street. He was this guy with money that nobody
could actually trace, some of which came from gets Lane
because her he got this huge, huge uh he was
he was a billionaire by marrying Gasoline. Okay only put
it that way, but that didn't account for all of
his assets.
Speaker 6: I think part of what he was doing.
Speaker 5: I mean, Epstein was absolutely a pediaste at a rapist
and a sexual deviant.
Speaker 2: But he was a pimp.
Speaker 5: He was a pimp, and part of the pimp game
is always uh a honeypot slash extortion racket.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: He'd he'd have these famous guys and these money people
and these palls, especially guys who couldn't leave you know,
pussy alone. He'd get him in these compromising positions. Then
he owned them. And he didn't just own them, but
Massade owned them. And maybe his buddies at Defense Intelligence
owned them too, you know. And I mean if you
and aside from that, you know, like I said, this
dude moved in a bunch of different worlds, you know,
despite the fact that everybody actually, oh Epstein, what a sueeze,
we hate him as he was a dude people liked,
like that's why it was bullshit, Like and cold gets on.
She's like, oh, he offered me a rhyme one time,
and I knew something was wrong. It's like, no, no,
you didn't do this guy out of here. Oh he's
a rich guy wants to you know how. She was
probably giggling like a school girl.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: So I mean this idea that he was just like
hated man, like, get the fuck out of here, you know, No,
he wasn't.
Speaker 7: Yeah, go ahead, the whole thing about you know, him
being a degenerate and a pediast and everything. That's a
prerequisite for this. I mean, because you can say that
at a much smaller scale, Hunter Biden is exactly what
did exactly for the Biden family and that crew. What
Epstein did, and he's a total scumbag too. You can't
do this without being.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Biden's bush league. He's like, he's bush league, white
trash Epstein.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, uh, I've been making the point that John
Luke Brene now, who's a modeling agent who was on
record known to funnel like a thousand girls to Epstein
at some point or over the course of his career.
Speaker 2: He had a modeling agency.
Speaker 1: He had a modeling agency set up in Ukraine, in
Kiev that Igor Kolamoyski, who was fucking Zelenski's boss at
the time, was part owner of.
Speaker 6: And there's it's a huge slave plantation.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Thomas made this point before, and I looked it up,
by the way, Uh he said that in those member
you said, in those paintings of like Turkish slave girls,
those were all Ukrainians. Well I went, I went and
investigated this. I'm telling the listener now, and I never
knew this. The biggest fucking port to export slaves to
the Turkish slave market was in Crimea on the Black Sea,
which is right where the Paloff.
Speaker 2: Salement ended up and where Galicia was.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's there's emails in the Epstein files from
a Ukrainian madam between her and Jean Luke Brenell about
fucking funneling girls to Epstein. So of course Biden hunter
Biden was getting girls from his network. And then in
terms of in terms just real quick, in terms just
to tie this other thing off with a bow here
in terms of Epstein's money, right, So Maxwell wasn't just
a money bag. She was also his connection to Massad.
I believe well it all started kind of at the
same time because of Iran contract and this other weapons
sale in England. But less Wexner was also his money bag,
and less Wexner had owned and Igor Kolamoyski owned the
same thing in Ukraine. They both owned tax exempt Chabad
study like synagogues where all these people would meet up
to do crime together. I have a whole episode about
it in Ukraine. So the Chabad network is in fact
a criminal organization. And this is where the Brafman sisters
met another guy who was Jewish who ran and the
Nexium cult, and Les Wesner and the Bronfman's father whose
first name I forget now were part of the Mega
group who they were like, you know, putting money. They
were investors, and they were putting money behind political candidates
and stuff. I just don't know what Nexium was doing
down in Mexico. Nothing ever came out about laundering money
or human trafficking or cartel can.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's all this stuff. It's like the Founder's cult.
Speaker 5: Like I'm not saying them in the next name called
a Common Objectives in Discrete Capacities. But I mean, you're
not gonna The reason why I'm doing this a cult
of the Series of Burden is because you know, in
part I mean, I think the Next Team cult was
a number of things. But you know, people have cultic ideas.
People believe in bizarre things. There are genuine pagans who
do horrible stuff. You know, there's bizarre cults of perverts
who have this idea that they can dive in a
you know, they can devinate psychic and spiritual power by
transgressive acts and things, or by desensitizing themselves as stuff
or some of these people are are just perverts who
like to put some sort of because I religious gloss
on on their deviancy. But yeah, I you know, I
mean I there shouldn't. I mean, don't get me wrong, Like, uh,
Epstein is an incredible He was an incredibly weird person.
I'm on top of being obviously like a very evil man.
And it's his biography is bizarre, but it's not somehow unbelievable.
I mean I and that's really the legacy of Epstein.
It shows you how stupid the body politic is. They
think there's like this maguffin Epstein list, like in some
cheap movie or something. And the whole point, like, what's
what's the news worry about Epstein is that you know
Donald Trump is a pedophile or that or that some
or that it's or that some like loser goyish Paul.
They don't like it's gonna be exposed for for doing
add sexual things.
Speaker 6: They have no one. It's it's like you can put
it literally right in front of their face. What the
issue is. They still don't get it, you know.
Speaker 7: Uh, And it's and it's literally everybody, I mean everybody
was involved with this guy.
Speaker 4: And you know something that you know.
Speaker 7: Something that I think a lot of people on our
on our side who are like, you know, they've had
this idea that you can get elected into into and
start like subverting the government. You know, I'm talking about
like national government and changing and possibly taking over. It's
like it is riddled with pederass homosexuals, the most deviant
people on the planet. If you're a Christian, why do
you want anything to do with that? I mean, there's
a reason that people go there with, you know, like
good people go there, Like people go there with like
real good intentions, and then and then come out turn
out to get fucked up and just I mean, I mean,
their soul is destroyed.
Speaker 4: Why the fuck would you want to have anything to
do with these people.
Speaker 5: I don't understand either what they think. One of the
reasons I emphasize this point, it's not just because it's
important for understanding the historical process and the current situation.
I don't understand what people think that the government is
structured is doing for them. Everything else aside is totally obsolescent.
It's not structured to do anything that's raised on detro
ceased to exist in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 6: You know why.
Speaker 5: Obviously, it's a It's a way for you know, corrupt
and narcissistic people to get famous and get rich by
insider trading and stuff. It's a way to capture clout.
It's this totally parasitic apparatus. You know it's not actually
you know, like so what what what what?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 5: How could ethical people everything else aside be attracted to it?
You know, this idea that this twentieth century style regime
just must exist in perpetuity because otherwise we'll descend into
anarchy or something like, it's preposterous. It's it's it's slave
think writ large. You know, like what you know, it's
a racketeers and gangsters are attracted to racketeering operations. You know,
it's not it's not good people or people who are
entrepreneurial in their own right and want to build actual capital,
you know, for the common wealth. Literally you know it's uh,
it's parasite pieces of shit or it's uh or it's
nobody's who you know, owing to connections or owing the
you know, the sort of odd trajectory of of of
people's lives. You know that that's sort of like they're
in for, you know, how to capture cloud and whatever.
But yeah, I uh, the whole uh, the whole apparatus
needs to die, and thankfully it is dying. And I'm
you know, I hope, uh I have an opportunity to
bear witness as some of the people get their come up.
And it's just because it's fun to watch evil people,
you know, have like suffer the torpions of the damned.
But you know, I've got no I'll long be dust
before you know the A lot of these people are
are annihilated, but you know, I can go to the
grave like happy that they're going to be annihilated and
that they're all going to end up in hell.
Speaker 1: Hey, so the weapons contract deal that I blanked on,
it was called the Alijamah deal. People should look that
up if they're interested in where Epstein got to start.
I brought it up earlier though, because after that deal,
which was simultaneously happening during I ran Contra right after that,
and Epstein was involved in both through this guy Doug Lease,
who was British. Right after that is when he met
Robert Maxwell and got hooked up with Gileen. But Jose,
I wanted to ask you going into this today, which
is off the original topic, but the Epstein files dropped
in between inviting you on and US recording, so I
wanted to know if you had any thoughts, if you've
been look looking at that and if you kind of
had any new revelations or if it put any pieces together,
if it's in any way involved in your work you've
been doing.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: It has confirmed numerous suspicions I've had about Epstein just
being an agent for global jewelry, and funny enough, it
has rekindled my interest in one side topic, if you will,
like the side quest of looking into please Israeli operations
in the global South, because one thing that I noticed
in some of these leaks with Epstein and Ehud Barack,
the former Israeli Prime Minister, they did a lot of
shuttle diplomacy in Africa, especially like Sierra Leone, and I
want to do some more research on that because Israel's
footprint has also increased a lot in that region for
very similar reasons to America, and that these are both corrupt,
resource rich regions that have very transactional politicians that can
be bribed or even just flat out blackmailed by Basad
and similar actors. And that's one thing that I took
a lot of interest in and I haven't delved deep
into the files like some people, but I do think
it's really good to have them as a reference point
because it just shows how the Israeli project is not
like a normal nationalistic project. It's very much a transnational
endeavor that is, for all intentsive purposes, also a criminal
and global criminal enterprise. And I think that's why it's
important to kind of keep that in mind and not
get lost in the more like click baity aspects of this,
which there are plenty of that actually have validity. But
that's one thing that's interested to me more is about
these networks. And interestingly you mentioned Mega Group. I did
write an article about the Mega Group recently at The
Occidental Observer, and then a follow up about Jessica Tish,
the and y PD commissioner that's of the Tish fortune
that's currently working under Zora. And Mom Donnie and her
father and grandfather were actually quite close to Jeffrey Epstein.
I think Lawrence Tish, yeah, was part of the Mega Group.
And it's interesting how all this stuff is very much interconnected,
even in what seems like everyday positions of governance. These
people have like agents, or at least like their their
progeny embedded in these institutions, regardless of who's in power.
Speaker 1: The Mom Donnie thing was interesting. We're you gonna say
something about that.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I'm not taking any of that at
face value. That's that to me just seems like the
slot part of it. The things that are interesting that
have been most interesting at this point is just you
know the fact that any questions about whether he was
connected to Israel and now they're trying to say that,
Like I think there's a New York Times article that
that putin ran Epstein, which is hilarious to me. But
the the two things that stand out to me is
just how global this how global he was, and how
much reach he had everywhere, and just the Jewish supremacy
bigotry that comes out of it. I mean, it's that
can't be anyone who reads these emails and it's just like, oh,
these people are joking when they're talking about the Goya
and talking about how financialization is for us, and you
know it's an insight thing, and you know everyone else
is on the outside of this, people who can't see
through that now and there are people like formerly i
would say formerly in our sphere who are doubling down
now and they're they're like totally like this Epstein thing
is a nothing burger. It doesn't mean anything, we got
to keep trusting Trump and we got to put our
put all our faith in the White House. Motherfuckers, you're
going to be You're five thousand dollars a month you're
getting from Twitter is going to be gone after the midterms,
because after the midterms, Trump is in. He's going to
be in freaking impeachment land. He's going to be in,
you know, because you're just it's even if it isn't
like a reaction against him, it's just how the cycles work.
Speaker 4: Midterms, you lose.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Megan's a fucking joke. And uh but I mean
that's why, you know, I mean, that's that's why a
gate keep so hard, you know, because most of these
guys they're running, they're running some kind of graft or
they're just fucking idiots and like the whole thing they like,
They don't they don't actually leave their house. They like
live on the internet. They shill for bullshit, And the
only reason they'll approach me or our friends is because
they're trying to They're trying to mind credibility out of
brands that are more intellectually rigorous than their own and
try and hitch their leg and for limited purposes, you know,
and I'm very wise that. You know, people seem to
think that I don't know shit or something of a
generally have ahead of the mega contingent.
Speaker 6: Then they're not.
Speaker 5: That's not some kind of flex man. That's like being
smarter than the kids in special Head. But it uh, yeah,
these these people aren't in the game. They don't know
what the fuck they're talking about, you know. But that's
why that that's why I don't associate with conservatives. You know,
they're losers, they're idiots, and a lot of them are
just perfect man like they you know, they're they're your enemies.
Speaker 6: They're not.
Speaker 5: Just if they're a stupid people would be one thing,
but they're they're bad people. They're stupid, and they're ethically
compromise and some of them are some of them are evil.
Albeit I'm a very banal capacity. But I gotta, I
gotta run, fellas, I gotta I gotta get out with
my day and I gotta recording Burden in a few
minutes here too.
Speaker 6: Forgive me for being abrupt.
Speaker 7: I think both both the Thomas and Jose needs to
check out, So maybe Astro and I will go a
little bit.
Speaker 5: Longer okay, I'll uh yeah, well, uh we'll connect up tomorrow.
Speaker 7: Pete, yep, talk to you tomorrow, Jose. Jose, you need
to get out of here.
Speaker 3: I could stay here for like five more minutes or so.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Thomas, take care of yourself. I'll talk
to you tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Be well, Fellas. Good talking to you, Jose.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Likewise, seeing you again. Man.
Speaker 7: So Jose, let's get a little more in your remaining
five minutes that you have and everything. Talk a little
bit more about the what you've seen in the Epstein drops.
Speaker 4: Obviously the slop of you know, it's not slop.
Speaker 7: I mean, pedophiles need to be millstoned, but really the
the power behind all of this, and just exactly how
I mean we're fucked. I mean, it's it's coming to
an end. But you know, you have to realize that
if your idea is that, oh, there's a political solution
to this that's other than like statewide or local. If
you think there's a national solution to this, and even
statewide and local in many cases, is completely fucked. I mean,
you're you know, you're from Texas. You know Texas politics
is fucked.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean how you know, what do you
see out of it?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 7: What's the hope? What's the white pill?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: I do think there is hope because it is destroying
this schoolhouse rock illusion that people have been placed under
with regards to how they view American governance. They view
it in a very benign and well intentioned manner, when
in reality, it's anything but that. It's not democratic, it's
very opaque, and.
Speaker 7: It's it's openly hostile.
Speaker 3: Yep ruling class driven hostile goes very much agets the
interests of the American people. And I think this is
a really good moment for educational moment for people to
realize that it's these transnational criminal networks that actually run things,
not your mister Smith going to Washington. Many people have
been served up that illusion and have been entranced by
this for decades. But it's good that people are being
disabused of that because the first step in actually bringing
about any type of reform is actually identifying the problem
and the rot that's in the system. And the Epstein
files absolutely deliver on that front. When it comes to
just exposing the underworld and just the absolute rotten state
of American politics.
Speaker 7: You know when you're talking about like billions of dollars,
in some cases trillions of dollars, and you're talking about power,
and you're talking about people who will not only have
sex with kids, but will kill them. I mean, they
don't care, they'll kill anyone.
Speaker 3: YEP.
Speaker 7: Wanting to make peace with that, You're you're the enemy
if you want to make peace with it. But also
thinking that there's somehow, some way you're going to go
and subvert that, and it's not going to touch you,
it's not going to taint you, it's not going to
maybe even turn you. You're you're fucking You're out of
your mind. You're out of your fucking mind.
Speaker 1: Well, something I like repeating is that the reason why
there are mostly Democrats and Liberals in the Epstein files
is because they like girls and Republicans like boys.
Speaker 2: So, going back to the point you guys are making.
Speaker 4: The GOP is the gay old party. It is. People
want to say that, like the Democrats are gay.
Speaker 7: No, the Republican Party has way more homosexuals in it
than the Democrat Party. I'm not saying the Democrat Party
is good, Okay, it is the gay old Party.
Speaker 1: And and to Pete's point, into Jose's point about, uh,
you know, Jose goes to Washington or whatever.
Speaker 2: Whatever the anecdote is, you're not going to get in
if you're not gay. That's it. You're not going to
make it anywhere. Yeah, it's closed off to you.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And look at somebody like Thomas Massey. Look what they
did to him. I mean, even Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 7: There's a there's a lot of things to not like
about Thomas Massey economic policy and order policy, but when
it comes when it comes down to it, and he
may have he may take money from you know, I've heard, Oh,
well you know someone there's a Jew who donates a
lot of money to him. Yeah, and someone named him once.
Tell me, is that person in the Epstein files is
Thomas Massey in the Epstein files? Is Sucker Carlson in
the Epstein files? Who take a look at who's not
in the Epstein files and realize you may disagree with
them on a lot, but that person doesn't fucking hate you,
and probably once you're dead.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you guys probably saw this. There's a transcript somewhere.
I don't know if it was court testimony or just
an interview from years ago. A girl that was trafficked
by Epstein who got out, who turned on him, said
all this stuff about the Jewish supremacy stuff, she said,
all of it. She said, Gilaine was even worse than
Jeffrey on it. I mean, Jeffrey was like kind of
their surrogate dad. He was their pimp, so he treated
them kind of good. Actually, a lot of the girls
defended him and refused to turn on him. But she
said that all this stuff you're seeing in the files,
the way he's talking in private, she said, that's how
Glaine would talk to the girls. You know, you're just
a boy, all this stuff. So that was already out there,
but it's good now for people to see that regular people.
It's good that the way they talk is out there
for the public to see. And you know, in the
wake of October seventh, that isn't lost on people.
Speaker 2: The Oh, go ahead, Pete, I won't, I won't.
Speaker 7: I want people, he say, no, I want people to understand.
I'll be short. I want people to understand. You know,
It's like I still don't believe, you know, radicalizing the
normies is a good thing. I mean, because normies can't
be radicalized I mean.
Speaker 4: They're just.
Speaker 7: But the thing, the more education they have about who
rules over them, they can make better decisions with their lives.
They can be more successful. They can choose not to
do business with a you know, with a certain business
because it could be you know, they see that it's
connected to something.
Speaker 4: They can make decisions.
Speaker 7: They can make decisions to just not deal with, not
take out fucking thirty year mortgages or things. I mean
to just try to do everything to disconnect yourself from.
Speaker 4: You know, this the Jewish overlords.
Speaker 7: And if people can see that, they don't need to
become fucking you know, French revolutionaries, you know, in seventeen
eighty nine or seventeen ninety three. But they can just
be like, oh, okay, so we're basically under occupation and
I'm going to live my life to mitigate that, mitigate
the damage of that as much as I can. It's
just really helping people to know how to live their
lives now. They want to become you know, like us,
who talks about it openly and you know, maybe even
starts an organization to educate people about it, or start
starts an organization to help people in their local area
or anything any kind of organizing. That's that's perfect. You
know we need that. But you know, just that the
average person can realize. You know, you know one thing,
It's like I said this about history. If you look
at the last two thousand years of history and you
don't see Jews, you don't understand the last two thousand
years of history, especially European history. If you don't see
the Jewish question in all of it, it opens it
opens your eyes to understand, and now you can understand history.
Speaker 4: And it's the same thing.
Speaker 7: Now there are people running around going, how come you
know we have the constitution? How come the constitution doesn't work?
How come this doesn't seem like the country I had
eighty the country eighty years ago. Why doesn't it seem
like the founding of the country. Well, now you can
those those questions can be answered. Whether they do nothing
about it, whether they you know, don't become activists or
start an organization and start organizing and doing something, at
least they can see it and at least they you know,
it's people aren't in this. The problem is is when
you control the textbooks, and when you control the news,
and when you control everything, you control people's minds, and
they stop living historically, and they stop caring about anything
except what's right in front of them. And I think
this just it helps people to break out of that
whole mindset that has been just drilled into Americans for
the last eighty to one hundred years. And I think
when that happens, you know something metaphysical can happen too,
where it's like the spirit of the age changes and
we go in another direction. So I mean, I mean,
I know that sounds woo woo to a lot of people,
but I mean that is if you look through history,
you see that in.
Speaker 4: Working throughout everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that a lot, And it speaks to
what I was going to say, which is that the
left right divide is gone now and anyone pushing from
the right the right this and the left sucks, and
the left this and the right sucks, is they're just
falling for it.
Speaker 2: They're just dupes now. I mean, Jose, do you agree.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been going away for a while
since October seventh, But for me, this just totally smashes
the false dichotomy like forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the left first right divide, it may
have had value before, but we're entering a new EPOC
where the battle lines are being drawn and there are
also like new friend enemy distinctions and sometimes even old
ones that I've just manifested themselves in different ways. And
it does require new thinking and an ability to adapt
the times, Like history is always good to learn so
that you don't make very predictable mistakes. But it's also
what part of the historical process is also confronting novel changes, technology,
social trends and all of that and adapting to that,
because it's ultimately those who are able to synthesize the
knowledge of the past then interact with the present in
a very effective manner that will write the history books
for the online.
Speaker 2: Well said, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm saying what I'm saying is because
we saw that Epstein. I'm hoping maybe next episode we
can dedicate to the files, but because there's a lot
we're not even going to get to. But we saw
that Epstein was in touch with the founder and the
director or whatever of four chan, and the poll within
a few days of him contacting this guy, the the
sub form poll arised. And the Left is taking that
to say, oh, look at this the right wing politics
is totally controlled by you know, Zionists, and then right
wing people are getting all up in arms about it
and offended by it. But I'm just sitting here like, huh,
look at that. Totally organically, the left is blaming their
political opponents on Jews. They're blaming their political opponents as
being controlled by Zionists. I'm like this, how is this
not a good thing? How do you not see that
this is a good thing? And it's the same thing
about Mamdani. I mean, it was really interesting that this
came out, and I've decided when I saw him go
to the White House and I was immediately like, this
is a whole fucking op and everybody on either side
is falling for it. But the takeaway from that is
a dude campaigned and won on anti zionis rhetoric. I'm
not saying I want you know, I don't think he's
going to be a good mayor at all.
Speaker 2: I don't want him as the mayor. But but that.
Speaker 1: Is the takeaway that these divides that we're seeing are
being blurred now.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, we are entering some interesting times now and
there are like new coalitions being formed and also new
opportunities to shape things up. I like it because I
personally felt that the consensus of yesteryear was very ossified
and sclerotic and corrupt than just downright hostile towards our interests.
So anything to shape that up is a welcome development.
Speaker 2: So all right, so maybe to take us out here.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we're doing on time, but any
comments you guys want to make on Putin or Russia
or the war in Ukraine would be welcome. And I
bring it up because Putin's kind of snatching on this.
He's kind of he's capitalizing on this, and he's saying,
like he said something to the effect that like we
were going to join Western civilization at the end of
at the fall of the USSR, but now Western civilization
has been revealed to not be a civilization at all.
It's just a nest of degeneracy. I thought it looked
like Pete was going to say something.
Speaker 7: It's it's kind of hardened not to argue that, you know,
and when you when I say that, when I agree
with Putin, I'm not saying that Russia isn't a nest
of degeneracy, that there's not a degeneracy there, that there
isn't hubbad presence in Russia. There is, there are, there's
still are Jewish oligarchs there. I think people will say
that that's just total proof that Putin is completely owned
by them, and I mean, I don't care whatever. The
fact is is that the man spoke truth. We are
completely corrupt. Look at I mean, we're just talking about
the United States. Look at Europe. I mean, Europe has
it worse than us, and I think, yeah, I feel
bad for them, but you know, they are they're dangerous
to us because they're they're trying to drag us into
like a war with Russia. They want and they want
war with Russia. They they yeah, yeah, I mean I
hate to say it, but really, you know, because it
pisses so many people off in Europe. But I think
if people really understood the situation that they're in and
how fucked up it is, Russia marching to the Atlantic
and taking over everything would improve their lives one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I had in my mind when I
brought that up.
Speaker 7: Pete, Yeah there, I mean, you're look there, It's not
going to be this gigantic Jewish plantation anymore, the Zio
Jewish plantation anymore. If Russia did that, it's there is,
there's it's it's going to be hard to get rid
of all of the Jewish influence. But it's obvious that
whatever Jewish influence there is in Russia is against the
Jewish the Jewish influence in Europe. And but the European
influence is so much more damaging, so much more dangerous.
I mean, it's it basically makes you hate yourself. It imports,
you know, savages into your countries to rape your women.
And then if you mention that your woman has been
raped that you know, you go to jail. You know,
if it's you're never going to have the perfect It's
all about trade offs. If I was if I lived
in Germany right now, I would much rather Putin be
in you know, Putin's influence be in charge and Russia's
influence be in charge. I would much rather have an
ethnic Germany. I would much rather have France be for French,
for the French. Germany's a Germany be for the Germans,
Sweden be for the Swedish, England be for the English.
But that's not where we're at right now. And really
the only one who I think could clean up what is,
you know, absent of a revolution in Europe where you know,
a you know, a kind of ethnic revolution in every country,
someone's gonna have to come in from the outside and
clean it up. And that's obviously it's going to I mean,
we're the we can't do it because we're controlled by
the same people. It looks different in our country just
because of because our country and our culture is different,
but it's the same thing. The only thing that seems
to be different is Russia. And I know there's people,
the Jews Burgs who can't who think that like every Jew,
all Jewish power is the exact same thing. I mean,
I can't help those people. I really can't nothing you
say to them, because they're so they're so low IQ.
They really shouldn't be following politics. Sports would be better music,
you know, go, you know, just go delve into the
goy slop'll it'll be it'll be better for you. I mean,
stop talking, you stop talking, Take that information and use
it to get your life straight whatever.
Speaker 4: But I mean, right now.
Speaker 7: Russia would be a much Russia Putin would be a
much better influence over Europe than what they have now,
which is, you know, just basically a global zionism.
Speaker 4: Jo JSETI disagree with me.
Speaker 3: No, no, I fully agree.
Speaker 8: I think it's wise for people to just not get
too caught up in the emotions of my political stuff
and just view things soberly and just remember you can
only have so much impact.
Speaker 3: So as long as everybody just becomes like a better
unit and does their part, things will be fine.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I've been saying Zelenski's days remembered.
Speaker 2: I think the wars.
Speaker 1: I think we're watching the war wind down the caveat that.
If America suddenly infuses a massive military aid package to
Ukraine to keep the war going, I don't think they're
going to be able to keep it going.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: The infrastructure, sure, the scandal in Ukraine was over the
was over fortifying the energy infrastructure against Russian attacks. Those
all right, I think we're getting Jose, and you have
to get going, buddy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to bounce, all right.
Speaker 4: A little bit to close it out. Yeah, all right,
let Jose, Let Jose.
Speaker 2: If you have a second for the last word, man, sure,
you know.
Speaker 3: I'd like to thank you guys again for having this discussion.
It's very necessary, and I think it's illuminating in the
light of the recent Epstein file releases about learning about
who actually governs US and what the real powder center
is in the West. And I think it's very important
that these discussions are had and that the they be repeated,
because repetition is the key to learning some of this stuff,
because for many people it could be a shock and
it makes them take leave their senses at first, but
then you have to kind of explain it and break
it down a few times. But that's how the game goes.
So I think it's I'm absolutely grateful to be discussing
with other like minded people on these issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it was great to have you.
Speaker 1: I think you're a great guest for the inquisition, And Pete,
I do have a couple of minutes to uh to
finish up here.
Speaker 2: Thank you, jose all right, see you guys.
Speaker 3: Thank you all right.
Speaker 1: Actually, Pete, I want to get your opinion on this.
So what I was saying is that the energy infrastructure,
the scandal in Ukraine was they were skimming off the
top of energy infrastructure fortifications and we even saw them
purposely buying cheaper, shitty stuff that didn't really protect it.
And they were also taking a really really long time
to rebuild fortifications that Russia knocked out. And the reason
they were taking a really long time is because they
were trying to find the cheapest UH contractor or bitter
that they could and if they couldn't find one that
was cheap enough, and when I say cheap enough, I
mean one where they could skim the most money off
the top of they would wait and they would hold out.
They held out for two months on one contract to
see if they would bring the price down, and in
that time, Russia hit the infrastructure yet again, hit the
power grid yet again. So right now there's lots of
places in Ukraine without power, and just yesterday, which would
be February second, Russia committed another attack on the power
grid and so things are not looking good.
Speaker 2: And I wonder what you think.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be over by the end of
twenty twenty five once the scandal broke, though, I said,
without an infusion of military aid, which I don't think
is coming. I really don't think Trump and Dvance's meeting
with Zelensky was kfab. I think they were cutting him
off and it looks like they did cut him off.
I don't see how it's gonna I just don't think
it's possible. I don't think it's possible for it to
last to the end of twenty twenty six. I think
it'll probably wind down in the summer. And last thing
I want to say is that the people who got
fired over this scandal, of whom there were a bunch,
although of course two of them fled to Israel. Uh,
there's there's seats were sitting vacant for months. Zelensky wasn't
able to fill them, so so like they haven't recovered
from the scandal.
Speaker 2: So I want, I want.
Speaker 1: I mean, I could say more about why is Zelensky
holding out. I think he's holding out, as we saw
in the Epstein files, he's controlled by Israel. I think,
And this is one of the things I mainly want
your opinion on Pete. I think he's being told to
keep Russia engaged while they're trying to work out Iran,
and they want to. They want to they want to
strike Iran. They want to convince Trump to strike Iran.
I don't know what they want to do. They want
to do another fucking gay op uh, two of which
one in the summer and one in this recent Color revolution,
neither of which has worked. It's the only sense I
could make for why Zelenski's holding out.
Speaker 7: I don't think they need to keep this going on
to do the Iran thing. Russia's going to get involved,
they can get involved. It's not like they're going to
be fighting a two front war. They're just going to
be It will just be support of information and weapons platforms.
So I don't really know that Russia needs to be
distracted by keeping this going. I think the one thing
that does show is that the when they realized that
they weren't going to be able to destroy Russia. I mean,
they honestly believed that Ukraine was going to, you know,
was going to be able to hurt Russia. And I
mean to a certain extent. I mean a lot of
people dead, a lot of people wounded. But really what
it comes down to is they decided afterwards that just
Ukraine needed to be destroyed as much as possible. And
I think that's what's happening right now. And I don't
think that Putin can back down. People can be like, well,
Putin's doing this on purpose because there's Jews on one
side and there's Jews on his side and everything like that.
It's like, I mean, sure you can be that simplistic
about it, or you know, you can really think about
what's going you know what's going on there, and you know,
to make it as simple as possible. You could say, well,
he's just looking to save face. But you know, when
Putin starts off an interview by going through the history
of Russia, I don't think that's k fabe. Yeah, I
think that is him going, look, we're the Russians. Everybody's
tried to kill us, and you know, the Jews almost did,
but we're back, and we have to play this game
because it's a global game and there are global players,
but we're not. You can't you can't just tell us
that this land is not ours, because it is. And
I think at this point Putin is just he's keeping
it going because he knows that if it stops, if
he stops, he's going to be seen as weak.
Speaker 4: He needs the other side to back down. That's it.
Speaker 7: I also think that there are hardliners in his gun.
He is not the most radical person in his government.
I mean, it is hilarious that people think that he's
like some kind of you know, Dictator. I mean, he's
a strong man because he has to be, because the
culture demands a strong man, that area of the world
demands a strong man. I mean, you're when you were
at eight time zones and you command that you have
to be a strong man. But he is basically saying, look,
this is ours. I'm not going to give up on it.
And if I give up on it, I'm just going
to appear weak. And they're going to keep coming after us.
And they're going to keep coming after us, and they
he will keep coming after him, but at least he'll
be he'll be able to stand up and go, we.
Speaker 4: Won this, this is ours. We're gonna We're gonna keep it.
It's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: He needs to secure the don Bass in Crimea, and
he needs to keep NATO missiles out of out of Ukraine.
But yeah, I mean there's no reason for him to
back down. All right, man, any last thoughts. I think
this was a fantastic episode. I can't wait for the
listeners to take this in.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna go eat some lunch.
Speaker 1: All right. We will work on the next one behind
the scenes until then. Thanks for listening to the inquisition, Pete,
thanks for your time and your insights.
Speaker 4: As always, of course thanks man.
Speaker 2: All right man,