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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Inquisition, and today we have a

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very special guest joining me and Pete and Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Jose. Nina is here.

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Speaker 1: Jose, what's up man. I've been following your work very

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closely the last couple months.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for having me on. I

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really look forward to the discussion, and also I appreciate

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you following my work as well.

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Speaker 4: Astrol.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've seen you around a while, but

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it was really when you started talking about Venezuela that

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I not only like dug into your work, but I

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started following the links that you share in your articles

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and I've learned a lot. And you'd had a great

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episode with Pete myth of the twentieth Century. You had

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a pretty strong week. So you guys have covered a lot.

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So I want to just jump right into it because

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we've a lot to cover in a short amount of time, so,

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you know, taking all of our previous conversations in context. Here,

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the first thing I want to talk to you about,

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and the reason I invited you on was to talk

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about China and Israel in Latin America because if there's

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any angle for me to get behind what we're doing

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in Venezuela. It's because of what China is doing there

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and the influence that China is having in our hemisphere.

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They're obviously, you know, I don't have to make the

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argument I've made it elsewhere that China is not our

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friend at least in many major ways fentanyl trade, embargos,

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violating trade and bargos, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But through your work, through following your.

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Speaker 1: Links and reading much more about Latin America, I see

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that China is all over.

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Speaker 2: Latin America and so is Israel. So what's going on there?

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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you want to start talking about

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China and Israel and are they vying for control and

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influence over South America.

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Speaker 3: Well, start off, China is more economically involved in Latin America,

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and that's generally the byproduct of the fact that after

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the Global War on terror es actially during that era,

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the US started to just stop looking at Latin America,

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and as a result, China has expanded its trade portfolio

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not just across like Asia Africa, but also in Latin America.

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Just get raw materials like copper, like from Chile and

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other countries. It's more economically dominant in South America. Than

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it is in Central America, with exception of maybe country

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like Panama, but it's mostly in the economic terms where

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it's much more dominant. It's not very even in Venezuela,

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which is one of the countries that's been mostly involved

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in there's very little evidence, contrary to what a lot

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of neokon and interventions types say that that relationship was

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turning into like a military type where they're going to

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set up bases, like in a Cuban missile crisis style

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of fashion. It's very much in the economic terms. Now.

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Israel is interesting because it's been involved in the region

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for actually a while, and it's one of the first

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countries that you saw very intense military cooperation with Israel

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is Guatemala during its civil war in the early sixties

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up until the nineties, and there's a multitude of reasons

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for this relationship. Guatemala was one of the first countries

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to recognize the state of Israel in the late forties.

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It's also a country where the United States was heavily

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involved in with regards to promoting Prosionist evangelical Christianity there,

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and that created a natural, well really an artificial base

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of support for Zionism in Guatemala, and when you had

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the civil war there, Guatemala was trade embargoed by numerous countries,

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so it turned to Israel for armaments and other military support.

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Since then, there have been other countries over the years

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that have increasingly been subjected to Israeli influenced Panama for example,

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Menue nor Diego. His handler was apparently a guy by

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the name of Mike Career who was a massade commander

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of sorts and a director for a lot of assassinations,

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and towards the end of his career in the late eighties,

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he was really embedded in Latin American affairs and was

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close to nor Diega, and apparently he was able to

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get the drop on Nordega right before the Americans invaded.

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He was able to learn firsthand beforehand that the US

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is planning to invade Panama and take out Noriega, so

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he skipped down and he ended up going back to Israel.

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But since then, especially after the end of the Cold

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War during the Unipolar moment, many countries in Latin America

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started to normalize or at least strengthen the ties of Israel.

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For example, Argentina during it's so called like neoliberal era

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of the nineteen nineties, where many of these countries started

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opening up their markets to not just like a US,

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but also just broader Jewish finance. They began to normalize

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relations of Israel, especially Argentina, and Argentina is probably the

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crown jewel right now because they have the most philo

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Semitic pro Israel president in Javier Melay. And that project

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has been decades in the making in many respects because

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with the administration of Carlos Menim in the nineteen nineties,

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who ironically is of Syrian Confession, but he converted to Catholicism,

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that's when this financialization happened, and also the normalization of

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relations with Argentina happened and them getting Also the election

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of Bolscenaro two gave a boost to this project as

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well because he is how your bolscenario is very connected

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to many global Zionist networks that promote a lot of

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like the so called zio populism as I like to

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label it in Latin America and the United States, which

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is a bunch of populist parties that are very pro

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Zionists and that have numerous pro Zionist patrons, and that

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has also been gaining momentum. And though the lynchpin is

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clearly Argentina with Mela and now you have got the

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ISAAC Cords, which is like a diplomatic initiative being rolled

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out by Bulay and just really the broader Jewish network

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that supports him, that just what's to make Latin America

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a safe space for Jewish supremacy. And they're looking at

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countries such as obviously Argentina, Paraguay, and then others like Chile,

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Costa Rica, Panama as signatories for the ISAAC Cords. And

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this is a project that goes kind of like beyond

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like the neo conservatism of your now it's just more

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explicit about making the world safe not for democracy but

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for Jewish supremacy. And they're extrapolating the Abraham Accords model

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that we see in the Middle East to Latin America.

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And that's how what's starting to really gain a lot

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of traction there well.

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Speaker 5: And in Argentina, just real quick, I mean, Argentina was

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literally than the locale of the National Socialist resistance after

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the war. Johann von Weers was there, Hans Elwick Rudel

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was literally like a minister without portfolio to parone out

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of skorsein he was a paramore of a vita parone

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for agredible purposes. It was a national social estate. They

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hated Israel. You know, That's why there's it's it almost

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became a there's something of a comedic convention and something

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like that. Boys from Brazil like oo Argentina. There's a

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bunch of ex Nazis running around there, you know, I

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mean's the reason why Jose Jose's absolutely right. I put

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Honduras on there too. After during the surge and when

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Blackwater was a kind of having trouble with their with

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their public image and they started to kind of reconstitute

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and shift personnel around those branding. They got a bunch

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of Hon Durant mercenaries on their payroll who are running

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around in Iraq. And that, I mean, that goes back

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to the Cold War. But that the Hon Duras government

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is is as thick as thieves with oh yeah yeah,

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these Zionists outfits go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Was I don't mean a row No.

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Speaker 3: I forgot to mention as well, Juan Hernando or Hernandez,

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the guy that Trump recently pardoned, the former president. He

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for all intents and purposes. Based on my research, he's

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actually could be argued to be not just like a

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pro Israel supporter, which he was during his time as president,

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he was a pretty much a masad a Israeli asset, because,

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for example, he was trained in the nineties, like as

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a young man under this program called Mashav, which is

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like the Israeli Agency for International Development Cooperation for all

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intensive purposes. It's a good Israeli soft power type of

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program that's used to do outreach in the global South,

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especially in many of these Central American countries with large

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evangelical populations, and also in Africa increasingly as well. This

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is like a go to program, and he was cultivated

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as a hey a asset of sorts, and he was

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for his work in Honduras he received like a Friend

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of Zion award, and he was also very connected to

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certain elements of of Hunter and Jewry, the Rosenthal family,

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for example, Highmail Rosenthal, who was the owner of a

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prominent bank and soccer club in the country. A group

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of that's the Consortium, was a notable backer of Hernandez,

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and Rosenthal himself was a perennial presidential candidate but he

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found more of a role as a king maker there. Yes,

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Central America is especially Guatemala and Honduras. Those are two

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key pro Zionist countries. I would also add pre Gustavo

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Petro Columbia as well, given the fact that Columbia was

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the United States most reliable security partner in South America.

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It's also received significant military aid and training from Israeli

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State and also from mercenaries like Yai Or klient I

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Villains of Judea series on Substack, and he was also

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quite prominent there. And I think that's another country that's

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gonna be on the ISAAC Cords list, probably one of

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the top priorities because of the fact that it really

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went on it and took a anti Zionist turn under

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Gusavo Petro, who's going to be out of office in

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a few months anyways. But they're definitely have their eyes

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on Columbia. But Central America is where it seems to be.

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It's it's where Israeli infoot is at its strongest. In

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Latin America for example. Another interesting factoid about going back

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to Panama, it is the only country in Latin America

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that does it recognize the state of Palestine either.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask a question.

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Speaker 1: When I looked into like the drug trade coming out

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of Venezuela and then when I saw them reinstall or

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at least let out of prison the guy from Honduras,

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something occurred to me that you basically just verified. My

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suspicion is that these guys are going to take over

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the When I say these guys, I mean like the Israelis, Masad,

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the CIA. My suspicion is that they're they're doing this

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to like retake over, to take back the drug trade.

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If I remember correct, I think it was two thousand

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and nine, there was a coup, a US backed coup

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and Hunturis that ousted the leader. And I don't know

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if this guy Hernandez was immediately installed at that time,

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but he came to power after that coup, and then

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you know, Honduras became like the central drug trafficking hub

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from Central America, which was preceded by Panama as the

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central drug trafficking hub when the CIA and Massade and

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all these Israelis were there. So my suspicion is that

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they're like, among other things, they're doing other things too.

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They're taking over. They're going to take over the drug

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trade with this Venezuela thing. And what you said about

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Colombia is very interesting because without Colombia, they couldn't traffic

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the drugs east through Colombia, they'd have to go south.

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Speaker 6: I own, I.

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Speaker 5: Think it's a lot of cap with Trump talking about

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drugs like he's nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's all it's one hundred percent cap.

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Speaker 5: But one of the problems with that entire narrative of

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the of the you know, the State Department and the

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White House, there's not this cartel structure like there was

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thirty years ago. It doesn't exist, you know, I mean, yeah,

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with the regime calls cartels. There's guys under arms who

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basically contacts anybody who's trying to move weight through the

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territory they control. But the idea there's this top down

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structure where there's some guy like Escobar and he controls

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exclusive monopoly access to where coca is being harvested and

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you know, everywhere down from production, refinement, distribution to the

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point of purchase. His organization controls that. That doesn't exist.

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And one of the reasons why there's all this garbage

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literal poison ending up on the American street. It's just

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like it's just like Frankenstein synthetic opiates. There's probably not

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even any real cocaine on the street anymore. And such

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that there is, it's coming from half a dozen places,

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and it's it's it's upstart guys just doing shit, you know.

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I mean, like that's what it is. So I mean,

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I don't and plus two anymore, or I mean, don't

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get me wrong. There's like due power and money all

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over the global drug trade. But it's basically when it

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became clear you couldn't do like what the Stackler family

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did anymore. Domestically, those guys are fucking around all over

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this planet, man, Like literally they're like pumping that poison

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into Africa. It's being prescribed. They're doing it in you know,

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they all over the global South. You know they're doing it.

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I'm sure they're plugged into these I'm sure they're plugged

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into some of these healthcare charities. You know, they're flooding

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supposedly underserved areas, you know, with medications and doctors without

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borders and stuff. I mean, some of those into some

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of those NGOs do good things, but some of them

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do not. Okay, I'm not pining everybody with the same brush,

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but that's important to understand and what changed everything and

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landed big gas in a second. You know, the global

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heroin trade collapsed after the Taliban took over Afghanistan. It

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doesn't exist anymore. You might be able to find h

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That's why the only seizeer you hear about are fentomyl.

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might be able to find guys. I mean, I have

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no idea you might be able to find You might

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find guys moving like low quality tar heroin over the border.

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and kills people. There's dozens of people trying to trying

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literally be anywhere if you have the precursors. It's recomplicated.

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Speaker 5: They said they were a resistance settlement contra the desion.

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Speaker 6: Is power play.

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Speaker 5: But they also when they when they decided, when they

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announced that they were going to pursue full membership in

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the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, that was it, okay, there, you're

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gonna get murked if you do that. And frankly, whether

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I think that's good or bad, I mean that is

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congruous with the Monroe doctrine as intended in press practice,

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as it's been for the last one hundred years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: Well, one of the I talked with an old friend yesterday,

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you know, basically released an episode tonight. He's saying, you know,

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even if you get this, this whole structure of multi multipolarity,

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even if it is instituted, it's still globalism. It's still

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going to work in a global framework. The financialization of

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markets isn't going away. The drug trade isn't stopping. This

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is just it's it's a it's to try to keep

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a structure. It's trying to keep a people happy and

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to keep people you know, fat and satisfied so that

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they don't figure out exactly what's going on. Oh, things

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are getting better. We're going to just worry about our

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own hemisphere, but it's still going to be globalism, it's

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still going to be all the trappings of Judea. So

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I mean it doesn't really mean anything.

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Speaker 5: Well, then it's also i mean Trump look at exactly

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what Trump does. It's it's like it's like Carl said

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the other week, trum Trump says things and then doesn't

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do anything, like even I mean sometimes I think that's

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good because he'll talk, you know, all this shit about

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who's going to destroy Iran? But then there's never any execution,

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but he'll talk about, uh, you know, it's whole Supposedly

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on the foreign policy front, his entire platform was you know,

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we're gonna stop, We're gonna put a stop these entanglements

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that are so wasteful and precluding a sensible foreign policy.

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more weapons, you know, I mean it's like and then

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is uh, I mean said at all the fact that

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during Trump's first term you had these uh you had

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these Pentagon theories, uh talking like proudly talking about how

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you know, they were engaged in active and subordination and

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they simply don't actually get the president's orders when it's

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not with their little make work program in Aghanistan, Like,

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what the fuck is that? So basically Trump is admitting

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he's a cook, you know, one of that's some sort

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of ruse so as to not be held accountable for

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these policies, or whether it's the truth. I tend to

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believe it's a little of both. I mean that the

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whole thing's preposterous. And yeah, like what would what exactly

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would America first mean after you know, and under globalism

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at scale? I mean that, don't get me wrong, Like

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I probably keep President seems like.

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Speaker 6: A really good dude. Like I don't know him personally,

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but I've followed him for years. I don't know off.

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Speaker 5: But globalism at scale is what's gonna make nullification secession

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possible because of the free mobility of capital and other things.

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And that's great, you know, that's that's how we accomplished liberation.

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But yeah, the idea that there's gonna be some policy

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shift or that the world's going to return the discrete

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spheres of influence restricted by you know, the limitations of

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technology and things that no longer exist unless you were

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able to turn the clock back, which isn't possible unless

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you're gonna pull something like year zero, which I don't

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think is the stomach ward. That's probably good. Yeah, it's

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it's a fantasy, it's it's people. It's intellectual masturbation writ large,

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and like all masturbation that tends to cause blind spots.

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Speaker 4: Well when it comes to nullification and everything.

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Speaker 7: I think Keith would agree with you, definitely, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I just I think, I mean,

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I'm Aye Gaily And that's why I like some of

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these helos and and and people are mentally retarded, like

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they claim that I'm like a Marxist or something. I mean,

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I I the cutting of reason is is a you know,

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the hand of God in history, and it's this the

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regims sowing the seeds of its own demise with its

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efforts at progress. I mean, that's that's always the case,

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you know, and you can't you can't stop that process.

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Speaker 6: And they're not. They don't.

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Speaker 5: There's not even a back bench cadre of people who

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are like young or young Ash and Hungary and understand

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the twenty first century they did this, this parasite class,

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you know, they're they're the Soviet nomenclans or a two

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point zero. That's probably pretty Randy, I'll give it back

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to you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Jose your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I've always suspected that is Real was,

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especially in Latin America now was getting back in as

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well to take part in illicit activities like drug trafficking,

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and I think also as well a lot of strip

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mining and other type of resource extraction related activities, because

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it's an open secret that is reel sources of funding

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are actually quite suspicious. This is a country that has

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massive tax of Asian as like a social norm, so

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it's got to get its money somewhere, and obviously it's

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it bleeds the US and the West dry. But I've

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also read reports over the years, especially of like in

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cartel violence, like in Mexico, you'll find every now and

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then several Israeli nationals among the dead. And I've it's

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been my assumption that they are pretty notable players in

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those markets, and I expect them their activity to be

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more pronounced as Israel starts to become more focused in

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Latin America. Try to not just maintain like a foothold

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in the the public affairs, but also in the shadows

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as well. Well.

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Speaker 1: If I can jump in real quick, this strip mining

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thing you're talking about. This is what the gorilla armies do.

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This is what this is how they get started. I

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mean even trend de Arago got started not by strip

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mining but shaking down government contract infrastructure projects. But the

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eln the FARC, when they were going strong in Columbia,

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they were all the eln Is supposedly still involved in

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strip mining, the cartels as well. They also get in

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on the oil trade which is nationalized in Mexico. And

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basically all these gorilla armies this is how they make

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their money.

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Speaker 5: Well, also, Israel has a total Israel doesn't have a

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normal like anonic profile. Like It's interesting during the nineties

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when MDMA or some variant of it, you know, it

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was huge when like ecstasy was everywhere, pretty much all

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the ecstacy was coming from Israel or the Netherlands. You know,

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they cornered the market on that in a major way.

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But other than weapons, I guess some high tech stuff,

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particularly hardware like knockoff computer chips and things like what

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the fuck is Israel produce doesn't produce anything it so

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it's not if it's not basically a massive uh money

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wandering operation, slash tax shelter for you know, people in

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the tribe like, what the fuck is it? You know,

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it's a bunch of it's a buch of heavily armed,

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hyper racialized people sitting on sand. I mean like that's

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literally that sounds like gonna be funny, but that that's

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actually what it is.

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Speaker 1: Jose, So I know I got that broadly correct though,

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that there was a two thousand and nine CIA Backku

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and Honduras, and this guy, I think he said his

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name was Hernandez, the one Trump let out of prison,

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came to power soon after, and then they became the

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cocaine hub of Central America.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Hernandez himself this was two thousand and nine,

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but he came into office like twenty fourteen, twenty thirteen.

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But that that coup created the environment for his eventual

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set And if I am not mistaken, the guy who

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was deposed, Manuel Selaya, was replaced initially by Roberto Micheletti,

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and then I forget who the other successor was, but

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it was another guy before Hernandez. But yeah, I was

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gonna go really pimotous period. But the whole point of

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that coup was to just create a to create like

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institutional instability, which is perfect for these type of Carteloisian

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like drug running outfits to set up shop. And then

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Hernandez came into the picture of twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and so there's a I know, you guys talked

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on Peach Show about the forest fires in Patagonia and

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there's I guess there's talk of well, I've heard two

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different theories. One is that it's going to be a settlement.

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I think you guys talked about that. But then the

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other thing is for mining for resource extraction, that there's

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a law right that if you know this place is

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subject to a forest fire, then companies can go in

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and speculate for mining. But as far as like a

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Jewish Israeli diaspora in South America, I mean, how prominent

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is that. I know there's one in Brazil.

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Speaker 2: Are you q Oh, yeah, Jacka was very important. That's

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a good point.

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Speaker 3: Arentina has a sizeable one as well, because Milay the

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way he got elected was he effectively just went to

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the Jewish lobby, especially the Hubbad sect, the other weird

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ultra Orthodox organizations there for support. Arentina's is generally like

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in the top ten largest Jewish communities in the world,

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and it's also in the Western hemisphere. It's like the

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in the top three behind like the US, and now

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it's become even more prominent.

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Speaker 4: A lot of it.

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Speaker 3: Initially, Theodore Rehearsal was flirting with the idea of establishing

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a Jewish state. Never came to pass there because they

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obviously preferred Israel. But there were some other Jews, especially

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of Aushkinasi extraction from like Russia and like the Pale

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Settlement that settled down to build their little own co

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ops there.

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Speaker 6: But those were to just real quick.

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Speaker 5: You know, Argentina is basically a European country, and a

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long time, I mean jose can Tolio about this for

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a long time really until the nineties, really until the depression,

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people would talk about Argentina as it's going to be

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the United States of South America. It's going to be

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this hugely powerful country. So there was all kinds of

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excitement and hype and even people you know, who were

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not looking for short term profits but in terms of

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long term developmental capital investment, they thought Argentina was gonna

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be huge and it is an important country, but yeah,

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go ahead. That's thus hurtsil and the entire World Jewish

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Congress whatever. Yeah, the World Jewish Congress and stuff. That's

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why they were interested in it. In part yeah, I

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don't mean they interrupted.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, yeah, that's a really good point that Thomas

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raised that Argentina well into the nineties at least was

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seen at like the United States, as a very much

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like a pan European state for the most part, and

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it was has been able. It has been a magnet

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for migration, like everywhere from Germany, Italy, France, and even

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you can find significant Balkan like Montenegrin immigration, immigration from

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the Levant as well, like Lebanon, Syria, like the case

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I mentioned with Carlos Menem being a Syrian extraction. You

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can find like all sorts of groups, and Jews were

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also prominently there at some point, and they've become much

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more influential, especially after the collapse of the Soviet Union,

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because I think the turning point, well really after the

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end of the Falkland Wars is when you saw the

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Argentine system just start to become much more pro Judeo

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American and open itself up to global finance, and that

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became a vector for a greater Jewish influence in the country.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's not a mistake that. Like when

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Malay got elected, the first thing he did was hop

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on a plane and go to Habad headquarters and fringing Brooklyn.

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I mean he literally did that. People think it's like

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a meme, but that was the first thing. Yeah, he

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went to headquarters to go to to go to Schneerson's grave,

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and it's like yeah, and like all these libertarians were

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celebrating because an a narco capitalist got elected president and

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and they started calling Hans Hermann Happa a Lalbert because

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Hans is like, he's a Zionist.

473
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,319
Speaker 4: He's not he's not a libertarian. He's not an arco capitalist.

474
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,480
He is a Zionist. What are you celebrating about?

475
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,799
Speaker 5: That's why that's what namblestands were. North American Man Boy

476
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:47,000
Libertarian Association. No Liberty Libertarians are future long pig like

477
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,119
uh in uh after ncigue there. They're gonna be butchered

478
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,160
and cut into strips and some of their skins gonna

479
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,640
be dried out as a jerky. You'll be able to

480
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,519
purch it in gas stations. Their intestines will be used

481
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:02,880
for sauce casing, and the remainder will be sold to

482
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,480
other tribes as long pig meat, and that'll be the

483
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:11,160
end of libertarians. They'll be turned into poop. But for

484
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:17,119
give that little tangent, but no the interestingly, uh, if

485
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,359
you'll permit the insinuation a little bit of trivia. Pavolish

486
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:26,599
settled in Argentina. I mean not just because it was

487
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,720
an an access friendly regime as as Spain was, but

488
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,119
there there was a croat X back community, particularly after

489
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,599
Tito and the Partisans were victorious.

490
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:39,319
Speaker 3: You know.

491
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 5: There it wasn't just usta shut and and chetnecks that

492
00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:44,920
you know around the house with the regime. There there

493
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,400
was all kinds of people. And if you were a

494
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,119
Serbo Croatian speaker, it's not as if you had like

495
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,920
an abundance of places where you could get by, you know,

496
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,119
just like as an emigrat or a political refugee, but

497
00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:00,759
you could in Argentina and Pablo a tenative work and

498
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:05,519
as a brick layer for some like Croatian or Bosnia

499
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:06,000
com firm.

500
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,759
Speaker 1: It was really interesting, if you guys are okay moving on.

501
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,960
I was not intending to bring up Mexico, but Thomas

502
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,119
mentioned them, and that's a really great point. Especially in

503
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,400
light of the Epstein files just dropping very little do

504
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,839
I see connections, especially in the media, with Nexium. And

505
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,319
it's really weird how the Nexium cult went down right

506
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:32,279
around the time of Epstein. I almost wondered if it

507
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:34,519
was a distraction or a cover up or something. I

508
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:36,680
don't know why those things happened at the same time,

509
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,079
but maybe the Justice Department was onto the whole network

510
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:43,000
and they were going after them all. But people don't

511
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:46,160
remember the Nexium cult, whose leader, who was a goy

512
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920
by the way, is in prison right now. They were

513
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,839
all down in Mexico City. They had a whole enclave

514
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,160
down there, and I just remember thinking, what is this

515
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,279
Jewish you know, chabbad because that's what they were, the Bronfmans.

516
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:03,240
They met in a chabbad like synagogue, you know, learning class.

517
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:06,720
What were they doing down there in Mexico. Why did

518
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,160
they have an enclave in Mexico and what was their

519
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,799
connection to Epstein?

520
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:13,759
Speaker 6: Go ahead, well, it's the thing to understand about Mexico.

521
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:19,599
Speaker 5: It's a conspiratorial society and traditionally the Soviet embassy in

522
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,880
Mexico City, that's where you know the film The Falcon,

523
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,920
The Snowman. I mean that that's a real story, Like

524
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,480
Chris Boyce's buddy Dalton Lee. Dalton Lee first made contact

525
00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:35,599
with the man who became their KGB handler by approaching

526
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,279
the Soviet embassy in Mexico. Like that's where Lee Herbie

527
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:43,000
Oswald first approached to discuss his defection. Anybody who was

528
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,559
in the spy game during the height of the Cold War,

529
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,759
Mexico City, a lot of a lot of things happened there.

530
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:53,480
A lot of people got murdered there in the espionage game,

531
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:57,720
and if you wanted to make contact, particularly as a defector,

532
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,599
that was where you did it, you know. So there's

533
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,360
that and the Mormons, and of course too if you've

534
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:16,199
got beyond those sorts of political intrigues and intelligence related activities,

535
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,960
if you've got money to spend and you don't want

536
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,639
people asking questions, you can set up shop in Mexico

537
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,800
and if you grease the right palms, you'll pretty much

538
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,800
be left alone. That's why there's you know, there's this

539
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:34,039
long standing Mormon enclave there. Okay, I'm not saying Mormons

540
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:36,039
are up to bad things or something. What I'm saying

541
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:41,400
is that traditionally Mormons weren't particularly liked by the federal government.

542
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,559
People forget that they initially seceded and then when they

543
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,960
realized Lincoln was in it to win it, they stepped

544
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,119
back from that proposition because they weren't ready to go

545
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:55,639
to go against the guns. But they did not have

546
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,519
an amiable relationship with the authorities, you know. But they

547
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:04,239
had a lot of money, and they had a lot

548
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,840
of people with a lot of skills, particularly agriculture, at

549
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:12,039
scaling things. So you go to Mexico with that to

550
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:16,800
offer the global authorities, you'll basically be left alone.

551
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 6: You know that. That's a lot to do with it.

552
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,559
Speaker 5: So if you want to set up some kind of

553
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:26,920
cult or some kind of money glaundering operation, or some

554
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:28,760
kind of perverted sex.

555
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 6: Thing or all of the above, you know, you gotta

556
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,920
be doing that over the border.

557
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 5: Eventually, if you tried doing that here, you're gonna end

558
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,360
up like that.

559
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 6: That Warren Jeffrey's guy. He was the guy with the

560
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,400
whole like uh.

561
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,519
Speaker 5: Church of the original Letterday Saints Compound, right, We had

562
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:53,719
like a bunch of underage girls that he was carrying

563
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,280
on with. He got rated and obviously now he's you know,

564
00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:00,880
been buried by football numbers, you know, so it's important.

565
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,360
I mean, don't get me wrong. I think with an

566
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,039
Mexian cult there probably is something there. But just because

567
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:11,239
people are doing crazy shady things in Mexico, it doesn't

568
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:17,000
mean that they have some sort of sympathetic cadre and government.

569
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:19,159
It just means that they got the money to keep

570
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:20,599
people off their back.

571
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: Well.

572
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,039
Speaker 1: And also Trotsky went there and that's where he was

573
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:27,960
under yep exactly.

574
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,119
Speaker 2: Jose or Pete.

575
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: I think really odd my end I'm not Mexico is

576
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,840
not as much of a strong suit for me, but

577
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,199
it will be an interesting spot to seem for these

578
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:53,000
type of ISAAC Accords operations unfolding in the next few years,

579
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:56,719
because I have been noticing two and this is based

580
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,840
off my previous experience working in the DC think tank

581
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:07,000
space with a lot of Latin American people that these

582
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,159
networks these a lot of these people are part of

583
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,159
very similar networks like the Atlas network that promote people

584
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:18,519
like Malay and other pro Zionist figures. And I'm going

585
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:23,440
to be interested to see how those type of interest

586
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,039
groups intersect and type of alliances they make in the

587
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:29,760
moves they make and the shadows in the next few years,

588
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,360
because I do remember Malay from a while back. This

589
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,880
was like from circa twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen, when

590
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,760
he was just like a fringe figure that people would

591
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,599
post on the Internet some of my mutuals like on

592
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:44,559
Facebook and this is the one. He was just like

593
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:48,719
an eccentric media personality who would occasionally run for office

594
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,000
and only get like two percent of the vote. But

595
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:55,199
it's very clear that once he went to the local

596
00:37:55,679 --> 00:38:01,400
hub Odd network that his profile just skyrocket. And I

597
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,639
believe that that model may be replicated by a good

598
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:12,519
deal of future political aspirants in Latin America and other

599
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:13,400
countries in the region.

600
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:17,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean next to him, I won't. I won't

601
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:20,280
belabor that. I pointed it out basic mainly because of

602
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,199
the Epstein file dump just now.

603
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 5: It's incredibly weird. I mean yeah, I mean into firms,

604
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,880
But yeah, it's a weird coincidence.

605
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 7: The thing where Ferris modd you know, maybe talk a

606
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,480
little bit about this Epstein thing. Feris modd over in England.

607
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,599
He just went to work looking at like the geopolitics

608
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:50,840
of what was released. It's literally insane how insinuated this

609
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,960
guy was into different I mean he was the Saudi's

610
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,679
contacted him to negotiate between them and Yemeny tribes.

611
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 6: Well he was.

612
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,519
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the whole point I've been making about

613
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:06,559
Epstein from day one, and the reason why I posted

614
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:14,519
uh Bars Donald Barr's bizarre like pedophilic science fiction. You

615
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:16,239
gotta understand what Epstein was.

616
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 6: He was a guy.

617
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 5: And despite the fact that see Epstein's whole family backgrounds

618
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,599
were he murky and deliberately obscured. They claim that his

619
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:29,519
father was this guy named Seymour Epstein, who was the

620
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:32,719
son of Russian Jewish immigrants who worked as a gardener

621
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,480
and was poor, but that the neighborhood Epstein grew up

622
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,239
in was a super zip okay, And there was another

623
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,559
Seymour Epstein, approximately the same age as this guy who

624
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,639
was supposed to his father, who worked on the Manhattan

625
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:52,079
Project and was very very close to William Donovan, you know,

626
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:56,360
wild Bill Donovan. So Epstein goes this somehow too. You're

627
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,639
supposed to believe that like he came in this like

628
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,880
working poor family, but he goes to this elite boarding

629
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,960
school and then Barr essentially takes him on as like

630
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,519
his surrogate son, you know, And Barr is this guy

631
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,960
who Barr could move in odd places. I obviously Barr

632
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:16,320
was was a very powerful Jew, but he also was

633
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,360
in with these OSS guys. And despite what they they

634
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,440
portray and moves like the good Shepherd. The OSS was

635
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,039
a bunch of Catholic ethnics. It wasn't we we kin'd

636
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:27,719
of have Negros or Catholics among us. No, no, no, no, no.

637
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,239
Wild Bill Donovan was as irish as they come. James

638
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,639
d Angleton was a Catholic born in Mexico. In my head,

639
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:37,599
so Barr he could get along. He he he could

640
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:40,000
get along with the wast State Department types two, he

641
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:41,480
could move in three different worlds.

642
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 6: Okay.

643
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 5: And despite what people you know in Epstein, basically you know,

644
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,360
Gislaine Maxwell, her father was one of the most powerful

645
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,480
non royals in the United Kingdom, and he basically he

646
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:56,559
basically gave his daughter to Epstein.

647
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 6: You know, but your wide was some guy he really liked.

648
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: What am I mean? Come on, it's obvious. This dude

649
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:11,280
was a huge intelligence asset. Who is basically minister without

650
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:17,599
portfolio successive administrations, who was on top of that. I mean,

651
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:20,840
he was like a bag man from Asade and US intelligence.

652
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,119
I mean, he was all these things, but he was

653
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,480
h you know, and he wasn't either, I know. One

654
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,679
of the things people say, and interestingly, the economist raised

655
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,800
this and the economy is a shit rag. But they

656
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,719
people will claim even in legacy media, I mean, not

657
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,039
that legacy is credible, but they'll claim, oh, Epstein made

658
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:46,039
his money in Wall Street.

659
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:46,559
Speaker 6: No he didn't.

660
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 5: Epstein didn't know anything about finance. He never worked on

661
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,079
Wall Street. He was this guy with money that nobody

662
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:56,960
could actually trace, some of which came from gets Lane

663
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,599
because her he got this huge, huge uh he was

664
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:04,079
he was a billionaire by marrying Gasoline. Okay only put

665
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:07,039
it that way, but that didn't account for all of

666
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:08,239
his assets.

667
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 6: I think part of what he was doing.

668
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 5: I mean, Epstein was absolutely a pediaste at a rapist

669
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,480
and a sexual deviant.

670
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: But he was a pimp.

671
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: He was a pimp, and part of the pimp game

672
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,320
is always uh a honeypot slash extortion racket.

673
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,159
Speaker 3: You know.

674
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 5: He'd he'd have these famous guys and these money people

675
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,320
and these palls, especially guys who couldn't leave you know,

676
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:39,280
pussy alone. He'd get him in these compromising positions. Then

677
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,079
he owned them. And he didn't just own them, but

678
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:44,280
Massade owned them. And maybe his buddies at Defense Intelligence

679
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,559
owned them too, you know. And I mean if you

680
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:49,320
and aside from that, you know, like I said, this

681
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,960
dude moved in a bunch of different worlds, you know,

682
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:55,760
despite the fact that everybody actually, oh Epstein, what a sueeze,

683
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,079
we hate him as he was a dude people liked,

684
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,599
like that's why it was bullshit, Like and cold gets on.

685
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,119
She's like, oh, he offered me a rhyme one time,

686
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:04,840
and I knew something was wrong. It's like, no, no,

687
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,639
you didn't do this guy out of here. Oh he's

688
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:11,719
a rich guy wants to you know how. She was

689
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,320
probably giggling like a school girl.

690
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 6: You know.

691
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 5: So I mean this idea that he was just like

692
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:20,440
hated man, like, get the fuck out of here, you know, No,

693
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:21,000
he wasn't.

694
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:26,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, go ahead, the whole thing about you know, him

695
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:30,480
being a degenerate and a pediast and everything. That's a

696
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:35,679
prerequisite for this. I mean, because you can say that

697
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,360
at a much smaller scale, Hunter Biden is exactly what

698
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:42,719
did exactly for the Biden family and that crew. What

699
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,960
Epstein did, and he's a total scumbag too. You can't

700
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:47,880
do this without being.

701
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Biden's bush league. He's like, he's bush league, white

702
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,079
trash Epstein.

703
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:59,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, uh, I've been making the point that John

704
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:03,119
Luke Brene now, who's a modeling agent who was on

705
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:06,320
record known to funnel like a thousand girls to Epstein

706
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,159
at some point or over the course of his career.

707
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,079
Speaker 2: He had a modeling agency.

708
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: He had a modeling agency set up in Ukraine, in

709
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,400
Kiev that Igor Kolamoyski, who was fucking Zelenski's boss at

710
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,760
the time, was part owner of.

711
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 6: And there's it's a huge slave plantation.

712
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

713
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,159
Speaker 1: And Thomas made this point before, and I looked it up,

714
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:28,960
by the way, Uh he said that in those member

715
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,719
you said, in those paintings of like Turkish slave girls,

716
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,159
those were all Ukrainians. Well I went, I went and

717
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:38,559
investigated this. I'm telling the listener now, and I never

718
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,480
knew this. The biggest fucking port to export slaves to

719
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:44,440
the Turkish slave market was in Crimea on the Black Sea,

720
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:46,039
which is right where the Paloff.

721
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: Salement ended up and where Galicia was.

722
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:55,079
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's there's emails in the Epstein files from

723
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:59,920
a Ukrainian madam between her and Jean Luke Brenell about

724
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:03,320
fucking funneling girls to Epstein. So of course Biden hunter

725
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,440
Biden was getting girls from his network. And then in

726
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:09,639
terms of in terms just real quick, in terms just

727
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:12,159
to tie this other thing off with a bow here

728
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:19,159
in terms of Epstein's money, right, So Maxwell wasn't just

729
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:21,559
a money bag. She was also his connection to Massad.

730
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,639
I believe well it all started kind of at the

731
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:26,760
same time because of Iran contract and this other weapons

732
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:32,559
sale in England. But less Wexner was also his money bag,

733
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:37,519
and less Wexner had owned and Igor Kolamoyski owned the

734
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:42,880
same thing in Ukraine. They both owned tax exempt Chabad

735
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,159
study like synagogues where all these people would meet up

736
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,679
to do crime together. I have a whole episode about

737
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:53,079
it in Ukraine. So the Chabad network is in fact

738
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:57,280
a criminal organization. And this is where the Brafman sisters

739
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,199
met another guy who was Jewish who ran and the

740
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,599
Nexium cult, and Les Wesner and the Bronfman's father whose

741
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:06,719
first name I forget now were part of the Mega

742
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,679
group who they were like, you know, putting money. They

743
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:12,519
were investors, and they were putting money behind political candidates

744
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:15,519
and stuff. I just don't know what Nexium was doing

745
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:18,800
down in Mexico. Nothing ever came out about laundering money

746
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,519
or human trafficking or cartel can.

747
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 6: I mean, it's all this stuff. It's like the Founder's cult.

748
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:27,199
Speaker 5: Like I'm not saying them in the next name called

749
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:31,239
a Common Objectives in Discrete Capacities. But I mean, you're

750
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,400
not gonna The reason why I'm doing this a cult

751
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,119
of the Series of Burden is because you know, in

752
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,159
part I mean, I think the Next Team cult was

753
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:43,920
a number of things. But you know, people have cultic ideas.

754
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,480
People believe in bizarre things. There are genuine pagans who

755
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:51,320
do horrible stuff. You know, there's bizarre cults of perverts

756
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:57,800
who have this idea that they can dive in a

757
00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:03,360
you know, they can devinate psychic and spiritual power by

758
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,239
transgressive acts and things, or by desensitizing themselves as stuff

759
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,320
or some of these people are are just perverts who

760
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,920
like to put some sort of because I religious gloss

761
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,679
on on their deviancy. But yeah, I you know, I

762
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:25,000
mean I there shouldn't. I mean, don't get me wrong, Like, uh,

763
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,639
Epstein is an incredible He was an incredibly weird person.

764
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,920
I'm on top of being obviously like a very evil man.

765
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:35,320
And it's his biography is bizarre, but it's not somehow unbelievable.

766
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,360
I mean I and that's really the legacy of Epstein.

767
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,800
It shows you how stupid the body politic is. They

768
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,280
think there's like this maguffin Epstein list, like in some

769
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,280
cheap movie or something. And the whole point, like, what's

770
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,920
what's the news worry about Epstein is that you know

771
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,960
Donald Trump is a pedophile or that or that some

772
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,440
or that it's or that some like loser goyish Paul.

773
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,880
They don't like it's gonna be exposed for for doing

774
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:01,199
add sexual things.

775
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 6: They have no one. It's it's like you can put

776
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,800
it literally right in front of their face. What the

777
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,079
issue is. They still don't get it, you know.

778
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 7: Uh, And it's and it's literally everybody, I mean everybody

779
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:13,199
was involved with this guy.

780
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:16,039
Speaker 4: And you know something that you know.

781
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 7: Something that I think a lot of people on our

782
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,840
on our side who are like, you know, they've had

783
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:30,159
this idea that you can get elected into into and

784
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:33,840
start like subverting the government. You know, I'm talking about

785
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,360
like national government and changing and possibly taking over. It's

786
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,559
like it is riddled with pederass homosexuals, the most deviant

787
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:47,000
people on the planet. If you're a Christian, why do

788
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:49,800
you want anything to do with that? I mean, there's

789
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,760
a reason that people go there with, you know, like

790
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,280
good people go there, Like people go there with like

791
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,480
real good intentions, and then and then come out turn

792
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:04,159
out to get fucked up and just I mean, I mean,

793
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,119
their soul is destroyed.

794
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 4: Why the fuck would you want to have anything to

795
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:10,440
do with these people.

796
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 5: I don't understand either what they think. One of the

797
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,239
reasons I emphasize this point, it's not just because it's

798
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,639
important for understanding the historical process and the current situation.

799
00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:23,199
I don't understand what people think that the government is

800
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:27,119
structured is doing for them. Everything else aside is totally obsolescent.

801
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,079
It's not structured to do anything that's raised on detro

802
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,159
ceased to exist in nineteen ninety one.

803
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,159
Speaker 6: You know why.

804
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 5: Obviously, it's a It's a way for you know, corrupt

805
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,840
and narcissistic people to get famous and get rich by

806
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,800
insider trading and stuff. It's a way to capture clout.

807
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:49,440
It's this totally parasitic apparatus. You know it's not actually

808
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:52,960
you know, like so what what what what?

809
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 6: What?

810
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: What?

811
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,079
Speaker 5: How could ethical people everything else aside be attracted to it?

812
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:02,920
You know, this idea that this twentieth century style regime

813
00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:07,719
just must exist in perpetuity because otherwise we'll descend into

814
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,199
anarchy or something like, it's preposterous. It's it's it's slave

815
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,920
think writ large. You know, like what you know, it's

816
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,079
a racketeers and gangsters are attracted to racketeering operations. You know,

817
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:22,559
it's not it's not good people or people who are

818
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,559
entrepreneurial in their own right and want to build actual capital,

819
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,480
you know, for the common wealth. Literally you know it's uh,

820
00:50:29,639 --> 00:50:33,599
it's parasite pieces of shit or it's uh or it's

821
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:38,039
nobody's who you know, owing to connections or owing the

822
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:42,079
you know, the sort of odd trajectory of of of

823
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,119
people's lives. You know that that's sort of like they're

824
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:47,760
in for, you know, how to capture cloud and whatever.

825
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,440
But yeah, I uh, the whole uh, the whole apparatus

826
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,559
needs to die, and thankfully it is dying. And I'm

827
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,960
you know, I hope, uh I have an opportunity to

828
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,960
bear witness as some of the people get their come up.

829
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,360
And it's just because it's fun to watch evil people,

830
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,480
you know, have like suffer the torpions of the damned.

831
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,159
But you know, I've got no I'll long be dust

832
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,760
before you know the A lot of these people are

833
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,760
are annihilated, but you know, I can go to the

834
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,320
grave like happy that they're going to be annihilated and

835
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,559
that they're all going to end up in hell.

836
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: Hey, so the weapons contract deal that I blanked on,

837
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,159
it was called the Alijamah deal. People should look that

838
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,480
up if they're interested in where Epstein got to start.

839
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:35,280
I brought it up earlier though, because after that deal,

840
00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:40,519
which was simultaneously happening during I ran Contra right after that,

841
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:43,079
and Epstein was involved in both through this guy Doug Lease,

842
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,199
who was British. Right after that is when he met

843
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:49,280
Robert Maxwell and got hooked up with Gileen. But Jose,

844
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,440
I wanted to ask you going into this today, which

845
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,920
is off the original topic, but the Epstein files dropped

846
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,239
in between inviting you on and US recording, so I

847
00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:59,760
wanted to know if you had any thoughts, if you've

848
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,280
been look looking at that and if you kind of

849
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:05,440
had any new revelations or if it put any pieces together,

850
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:07,480
if it's in any way involved in your work you've

851
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,119
been doing.

852
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: Well.

853
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:17,639
Speaker 3: It has confirmed numerous suspicions I've had about Epstein just

854
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:23,079
being an agent for global jewelry, and funny enough, it

855
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,199
has rekindled my interest in one side topic, if you will,

856
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,960
like the side quest of looking into please Israeli operations

857
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:38,440
in the global South, because one thing that I noticed

858
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,280
in some of these leaks with Epstein and Ehud Barack,

859
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,400
the former Israeli Prime Minister, they did a lot of

860
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,000
shuttle diplomacy in Africa, especially like Sierra Leone, and I

861
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:54,679
want to do some more research on that because Israel's

862
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:58,199
footprint has also increased a lot in that region for

863
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,920
very similar reasons to America, and that these are both corrupt,

864
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:08,039
resource rich regions that have very transactional politicians that can

865
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:12,800
be bribed or even just flat out blackmailed by Basad

866
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,800
and similar actors. And that's one thing that I took

867
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,960
a lot of interest in and I haven't delved deep

868
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,239
into the files like some people, but I do think

869
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,519
it's really good to have them as a reference point

870
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:31,599
because it just shows how the Israeli project is not

871
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:37,199
like a normal nationalistic project. It's very much a transnational

872
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:41,840
endeavor that is, for all intentsive purposes, also a criminal

873
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,159
and global criminal enterprise. And I think that's why it's

874
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:47,199
important to kind of keep that in mind and not

875
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:52,360
get lost in the more like click baity aspects of this,

876
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,760
which there are plenty of that actually have validity. But

877
00:53:56,159 --> 00:53:58,159
that's one thing that's interested to me more is about

878
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:04,199
these networks. And interestingly you mentioned Mega Group. I did

879
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,119
write an article about the Mega Group recently at The

880
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:16,079
Occidental Observer, and then a follow up about Jessica Tish,

881
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:22,360
the and y PD commissioner that's of the Tish fortune

882
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:28,280
that's currently working under Zora. And Mom Donnie and her

883
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:34,360
father and grandfather were actually quite close to Jeffrey Epstein.

884
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:38,079
I think Lawrence Tish, yeah, was part of the Mega Group.

885
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:41,760
And it's interesting how all this stuff is very much interconnected,

886
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:47,039
even in what seems like everyday positions of governance. These

887
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:50,920
people have like agents, or at least like their their

888
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,320
progeny embedded in these institutions, regardless of who's in power.

889
00:54:57,679 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: The Mom Donnie thing was interesting. We're you gonna say

890
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,039
something about that.

891
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I'm not taking any of that at

892
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,320
face value. That's that to me just seems like the

893
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,000
slot part of it. The things that are interesting that

894
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,440
have been most interesting at this point is just you

895
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,840
know the fact that any questions about whether he was

896
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,360
connected to Israel and now they're trying to say that,

897
00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:24,159
Like I think there's a New York Times article that

898
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:29,880
that putin ran Epstein, which is hilarious to me. But

899
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,880
the the two things that stand out to me is

900
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,400
just how global this how global he was, and how

901
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,800
much reach he had everywhere, and just the Jewish supremacy

902
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,719
bigotry that comes out of it. I mean, it's that

903
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,639
can't be anyone who reads these emails and it's just like, oh,

904
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:55,079
these people are joking when they're talking about the Goya

905
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,159
and talking about how financialization is for us, and you

906
00:55:59,199 --> 00:56:02,159
know it's an insight thing, and you know everyone else

907
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,159
is on the outside of this, people who can't see

908
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:08,800
through that now and there are people like formerly i

909
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,199
would say formerly in our sphere who are doubling down

910
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,039
now and they're they're like totally like this Epstein thing

911
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:17,920
is a nothing burger. It doesn't mean anything, we got

912
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,079
to keep trusting Trump and we got to put our

913
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,960
put all our faith in the White House. Motherfuckers, you're

914
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,960
going to be You're five thousand dollars a month you're

915
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,440
getting from Twitter is going to be gone after the midterms,

916
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,880
because after the midterms, Trump is in. He's going to

917
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,440
be in freaking impeachment land. He's going to be in,

918
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,559
you know, because you're just it's even if it isn't

919
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:42,559
like a reaction against him, it's just how the cycles work.

920
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,039
Speaker 4: Midterms, you lose.

921
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:48,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, Megan's a fucking joke. And uh but I mean

922
00:56:48,159 --> 00:56:52,199
that's why, you know, I mean, that's that's why a

923
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,440
gate keep so hard, you know, because most of these

924
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,760
guys they're running, they're running some kind of graft or

925
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,840
they're just fucking idiots and like the whole thing they like,

926
00:57:01,159 --> 00:57:03,559
They don't they don't actually leave their house. They like

927
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:07,480
live on the internet. They shill for bullshit, And the

928
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:12,800
only reason they'll approach me or our friends is because

929
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,360
they're trying to They're trying to mind credibility out of

930
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,360
brands that are more intellectually rigorous than their own and

931
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,840
try and hitch their leg and for limited purposes, you know,

932
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,760
and I'm very wise that. You know, people seem to

933
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,159
think that I don't know shit or something of a

934
00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:36,320
generally have ahead of the mega contingent.

935
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:37,079
Speaker 6: Then they're not.

936
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,519
Speaker 5: That's not some kind of flex man. That's like being

937
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:44,000
smarter than the kids in special Head. But it uh, yeah,

938
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:45,679
these these people aren't in the game. They don't know

939
00:57:45,679 --> 00:57:48,199
what the fuck they're talking about, you know. But that's

940
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:53,239
why that that's why I don't associate with conservatives. You know,

941
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,800
they're losers, they're idiots, and a lot of them are

942
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,079
just perfect man like they you know, they're they're your enemies.

943
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 6: They're not.

944
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,079
Speaker 5: Just if they're a stupid people would be one thing,

945
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:08,280
but they're they're bad people. They're stupid, and they're ethically

946
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,480
compromise and some of them are some of them are evil.

947
00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:18,199
Albeit I'm a very banal capacity. But I gotta, I

948
00:58:18,199 --> 00:58:22,159
gotta run, fellas, I gotta I gotta get out with

949
00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:24,440
my day and I gotta recording Burden in a few

950
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,199
minutes here too.

951
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,079
Speaker 6: Forgive me for being abrupt.

952
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,519
Speaker 7: I think both both the Thomas and Jose needs to

953
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:33,159
check out, So maybe Astro and I will go a

954
00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:33,679
little bit.

955
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 5: Longer okay, I'll uh yeah, well, uh we'll connect up tomorrow.

956
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,639
Speaker 7: Pete, yep, talk to you tomorrow, Jose. Jose, you need

957
00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:45,400
to get out of here.

958
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: I could stay here for like five more minutes or so.

959
00:58:48,679 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Thomas, take care of yourself. I'll talk

960
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:51,840
to you tomorrow.

961
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:54,119
Speaker 6: Yeah. Be well, Fellas. Good talking to you, Jose.

962
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:57,079
Speaker 3: Yeah. Likewise, seeing you again. Man.

963
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 7: So Jose, let's get a little more in your remaining

964
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,440
five minutes that you have and everything. Talk a little

965
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,840
bit more about the what you've seen in the Epstein drops.

966
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,079
Speaker 4: Obviously the slop of you know, it's not slop.

967
00:59:18,119 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 7: I mean, pedophiles need to be millstoned, but really the

968
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,760
the power behind all of this, and just exactly how

969
00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:36,000
I mean we're fucked. I mean, it's it's coming to

970
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:39,880
an end. But you know, you have to realize that

971
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,679
if your idea is that, oh, there's a political solution

972
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:48,320
to this that's other than like statewide or local. If

973
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,960
you think there's a national solution to this, and even

974
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,199
statewide and local in many cases, is completely fucked. I mean,

975
00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:57,360
you're you know, you're from Texas. You know Texas politics

976
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:58,039
is fucked.

977
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

978
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:04,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean how you know, what do you

979
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:04,920
see out of it?

980
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:05,079
Speaker 3: That?

981
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,079
Speaker 7: What's the hope? What's the white pill?

982
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 6: Yes?

983
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,239
Speaker 3: I do think there is hope because it is destroying

984
01:00:16,519 --> 01:00:21,679
this schoolhouse rock illusion that people have been placed under

985
01:00:22,159 --> 01:00:27,559
with regards to how they view American governance. They view

986
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:32,360
it in a very benign and well intentioned manner, when

987
01:00:32,679 --> 01:00:36,519
in reality, it's anything but that. It's not democratic, it's

988
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,039
very opaque, and.

989
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 7: It's it's openly hostile.

990
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: Yep ruling class driven hostile goes very much agets the

991
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,079
interests of the American people. And I think this is

992
01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:54,960
a really good moment for educational moment for people to

993
01:00:55,039 --> 01:01:00,519
realize that it's these transnational criminal networks that actually run things,

994
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:04,679
not your mister Smith going to Washington. Many people have

995
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,039
been served up that illusion and have been entranced by

996
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:12,920
this for decades. But it's good that people are being

997
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,880
disabused of that because the first step in actually bringing

998
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,679
about any type of reform is actually identifying the problem

999
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,880
and the rot that's in the system. And the Epstein

1000
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,119
files absolutely deliver on that front. When it comes to

1001
01:01:27,639 --> 01:01:33,159
just exposing the underworld and just the absolute rotten state

1002
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:35,440
of American politics.

1003
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 7: You know when you're talking about like billions of dollars,

1004
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,119
in some cases trillions of dollars, and you're talking about power,

1005
01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:47,760
and you're talking about people who will not only have

1006
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,920
sex with kids, but will kill them. I mean, they

1007
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,199
don't care, they'll kill anyone.

1008
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:53,639
Speaker 3: YEP.

1009
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:02,159
Speaker 7: Wanting to make peace with that, You're you're the enemy

1010
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,000
if you want to make peace with it. But also

1011
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:09,039
thinking that there's somehow, some way you're going to go

1012
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:12,800
and subvert that, and it's not going to touch you,

1013
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,519
it's not going to taint you, it's not going to

1014
01:02:15,639 --> 01:02:22,079
maybe even turn you. You're you're fucking You're out of

1015
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:24,760
your mind. You're out of your fucking mind.

1016
01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:29,679
Speaker 1: Well, something I like repeating is that the reason why

1017
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,519
there are mostly Democrats and Liberals in the Epstein files

1018
01:02:33,719 --> 01:02:38,400
is because they like girls and Republicans like boys.

1019
01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:42,039
Speaker 2: So, going back to the point you guys are making.

1020
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 4: The GOP is the gay old party. It is. People

1021
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,199
want to say that, like the Democrats are gay.

1022
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 7: No, the Republican Party has way more homosexuals in it

1023
01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:55,480
than the Democrat Party. I'm not saying the Democrat Party

1024
01:02:55,639 --> 01:03:00,119
is good, Okay, it is the gay old Party.

1025
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: And and to Pete's point, into Jose's point about, uh,

1026
01:03:04,039 --> 01:03:05,920
you know, Jose goes to Washington or whatever.

1027
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: Whatever the anecdote is, you're not going to get in

1028
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,199
if you're not gay. That's it. You're not going to

1029
01:03:13,239 --> 01:03:15,960
make it anywhere. Yeah, it's closed off to you.

1030
01:03:17,199 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 3: Yep.

1031
01:03:18,039 --> 01:03:20,159
Speaker 1: And look at somebody like Thomas Massey. Look what they

1032
01:03:20,159 --> 01:03:23,079
did to him. I mean, even Marjorie Taylor Green.

1033
01:03:25,199 --> 01:03:27,159
Speaker 7: There's a there's a lot of things to not like

1034
01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:32,800
about Thomas Massey economic policy and order policy, but when

1035
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,800
it comes when it comes down to it, and he

1036
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,239
may have he may take money from you know, I've heard, Oh,

1037
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,119
well you know someone there's a Jew who donates a

1038
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:45,039
lot of money to him. Yeah, and someone named him once.

1039
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:47,880
Tell me, is that person in the Epstein files is

1040
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,679
Thomas Massey in the Epstein files? Is Sucker Carlson in

1041
01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:54,400
the Epstein files? Who take a look at who's not

1042
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:59,199
in the Epstein files and realize you may disagree with

1043
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:03,000
them on a lot, but that person doesn't fucking hate you,

1044
01:04:03,079 --> 01:04:04,280
and probably once you're dead.

1045
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you guys probably saw this. There's a transcript somewhere.

1046
01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:10,599
I don't know if it was court testimony or just

1047
01:04:10,679 --> 01:04:15,199
an interview from years ago. A girl that was trafficked

1048
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:18,119
by Epstein who got out, who turned on him, said

1049
01:04:18,199 --> 01:04:20,760
all this stuff about the Jewish supremacy stuff, she said,

1050
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,760
all of it. She said, Gilaine was even worse than

1051
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,760
Jeffrey on it. I mean, Jeffrey was like kind of

1052
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,239
their surrogate dad. He was their pimp, so he treated

1053
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,840
them kind of good. Actually, a lot of the girls

1054
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,400
defended him and refused to turn on him. But she

1055
01:04:33,519 --> 01:04:36,119
said that all this stuff you're seeing in the files,

1056
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:38,119
the way he's talking in private, she said, that's how

1057
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:40,719
Glaine would talk to the girls. You know, you're just

1058
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,159
a boy, all this stuff. So that was already out there,

1059
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,960
but it's good now for people to see that regular people.

1060
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:53,360
It's good that the way they talk is out there

1061
01:04:53,519 --> 01:04:56,400
for the public to see. And you know, in the

1062
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,400
wake of October seventh, that isn't lost on people.

1063
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,199
Speaker 2: The Oh, go ahead, Pete, I won't, I won't.

1064
01:05:03,559 --> 01:05:07,599
Speaker 7: I want people, he say, no, I want people to understand.

1065
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:09,639
I'll be short. I want people to understand. You know,

1066
01:05:09,679 --> 01:05:13,679
It's like I still don't believe, you know, radicalizing the

1067
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,440
normies is a good thing. I mean, because normies can't

1068
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:17,800
be radicalized I mean.

1069
01:05:17,719 --> 01:05:18,239
Speaker 4: They're just.

1070
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,639
Speaker 7: But the thing, the more education they have about who

1071
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,119
rules over them, they can make better decisions with their lives.

1072
01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:29,880
They can be more successful. They can choose not to

1073
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,519
do business with a you know, with a certain business

1074
01:05:32,599 --> 01:05:35,039
because it could be you know, they see that it's

1075
01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:36,159
connected to something.

1076
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 4: They can make decisions.

1077
01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 7: They can make decisions to just not deal with, not

1078
01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:46,000
take out fucking thirty year mortgages or things. I mean

1079
01:05:46,719 --> 01:05:51,280
to just try to do everything to disconnect yourself from.

1080
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 4: You know, this the Jewish overlords.

1081
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 7: And if people can see that, they don't need to

1082
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:04,599
become fucking you know, French revolutionaries, you know, in seventeen

1083
01:06:04,639 --> 01:06:07,320
eighty nine or seventeen ninety three. But they can just

1084
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,840
be like, oh, okay, so we're basically under occupation and

1085
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,280
I'm going to live my life to mitigate that, mitigate

1086
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,920
the damage of that as much as I can. It's

1087
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:19,960
just really helping people to know how to live their

1088
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:22,880
lives now. They want to become you know, like us,

1089
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,679
who talks about it openly and you know, maybe even

1090
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:30,360
starts an organization to educate people about it, or start

1091
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:34,280
starts an organization to help people in their local area

1092
01:06:36,239 --> 01:06:40,199
or anything any kind of organizing. That's that's perfect. You

1093
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,239
know we need that. But you know, just that the

1094
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:48,280
average person can realize. You know, you know one thing,

1095
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,039
It's like I said this about history. If you look

1096
01:06:51,079 --> 01:06:53,760
at the last two thousand years of history and you

1097
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,360
don't see Jews, you don't understand the last two thousand

1098
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,320
years of history, especially European history. If you don't see

1099
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,519
the Jewish question in all of it, it opens it

1100
01:07:05,639 --> 01:07:09,039
opens your eyes to understand, and now you can understand history.

1101
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 4: And it's the same thing.

1102
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,679
Speaker 7: Now there are people running around going, how come you

1103
01:07:13,679 --> 01:07:16,679
know we have the constitution? How come the constitution doesn't work?

1104
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,639
How come this doesn't seem like the country I had

1105
01:07:19,679 --> 01:07:22,920
eighty the country eighty years ago. Why doesn't it seem

1106
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,880
like the founding of the country. Well, now you can

1107
01:07:26,639 --> 01:07:29,400
those those questions can be answered. Whether they do nothing

1108
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,639
about it, whether they you know, don't become activists or

1109
01:07:32,679 --> 01:07:37,480
start an organization and start organizing and doing something, at

1110
01:07:37,559 --> 01:07:39,639
least they can see it and at least they you know,

1111
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:44,599
it's people aren't in this. The problem is is when

1112
01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:48,119
you control the textbooks, and when you control the news,

1113
01:07:48,159 --> 01:07:51,400
and when you control everything, you control people's minds, and

1114
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,159
they stop living historically, and they stop caring about anything

1115
01:07:55,199 --> 01:07:59,440
except what's right in front of them. And I think

1116
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,960
this just it helps people to break out of that

1117
01:08:02,519 --> 01:08:08,599
whole mindset that has been just drilled into Americans for

1118
01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:11,400
the last eighty to one hundred years. And I think

1119
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:16,039
when that happens, you know something metaphysical can happen too,

1120
01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:21,600
where it's like the spirit of the age changes and

1121
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:26,159
we go in another direction. So I mean, I mean,

1122
01:08:26,199 --> 01:08:28,520
I know that sounds woo woo to a lot of people,

1123
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,439
but I mean that is if you look through history,

1124
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:32,560
you see that in.

1125
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 4: Working throughout everywhere.

1126
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that a lot, And it speaks to

1127
01:08:39,039 --> 01:08:40,760
what I was going to say, which is that the

1128
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:46,760
left right divide is gone now and anyone pushing from

1129
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,319
the right the right this and the left sucks, and

1130
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,119
the left this and the right sucks, is they're just

1131
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:52,960
falling for it.

1132
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 2: They're just dupes now. I mean, Jose, do you agree.

1133
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,319
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been going away for a while

1134
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:01,359
since October seventh, But for me, this just totally smashes

1135
01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:02,960
the false dichotomy like forever.

1136
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:09,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the left first right divide, it may

1137
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:14,159
have had value before, but we're entering a new EPOC

1138
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:19,640
where the battle lines are being drawn and there are

1139
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,960
also like new friend enemy distinctions and sometimes even old

1140
01:09:24,039 --> 01:09:27,960
ones that I've just manifested themselves in different ways. And

1141
01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:31,720
it does require new thinking and an ability to adapt

1142
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,319
the times, Like history is always good to learn so

1143
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:37,960
that you don't make very predictable mistakes. But it's also

1144
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:44,439
what part of the historical process is also confronting novel changes, technology,

1145
01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:47,439
social trends and all of that and adapting to that,

1146
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,880
because it's ultimately those who are able to synthesize the

1147
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,560
knowledge of the past then interact with the present in

1148
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,399
a very effective manner that will write the history books

1149
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,439
for the online.

1150
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 2: Well said, I totally agree.

1151
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,119
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm saying what I'm saying is because

1152
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:10,159
we saw that Epstein. I'm hoping maybe next episode we

1153
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:12,479
can dedicate to the files, but because there's a lot

1154
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,560
we're not even going to get to. But we saw

1155
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,119
that Epstein was in touch with the founder and the

1156
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,159
director or whatever of four chan, and the poll within

1157
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:25,279
a few days of him contacting this guy, the the

1158
01:10:25,359 --> 01:10:28,840
sub form poll arised. And the Left is taking that

1159
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,479
to say, oh, look at this the right wing politics

1160
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,560
is totally controlled by you know, Zionists, and then right

1161
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,439
wing people are getting all up in arms about it

1162
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,560
and offended by it. But I'm just sitting here like, huh,

1163
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,640
look at that. Totally organically, the left is blaming their

1164
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:50,880
political opponents on Jews. They're blaming their political opponents as

1165
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,680
being controlled by Zionists. I'm like this, how is this

1166
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,199
not a good thing? How do you not see that

1167
01:10:55,279 --> 01:10:57,239
this is a good thing? And it's the same thing

1168
01:10:57,239 --> 01:10:59,840
about Mamdani. I mean, it was really interesting that this

1169
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:02,039
came out, and I've decided when I saw him go

1170
01:11:02,079 --> 01:11:03,800
to the White House and I was immediately like, this

1171
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,640
is a whole fucking op and everybody on either side

1172
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,520
is falling for it. But the takeaway from that is

1173
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,920
a dude campaigned and won on anti zionis rhetoric. I'm

1174
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,199
not saying I want you know, I don't think he's

1175
01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:17,600
going to be a good mayor at all.

1176
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: I don't want him as the mayor. But but that.

1177
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: Is the takeaway that these divides that we're seeing are

1178
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:23,880
being blurred now.

1179
01:11:30,399 --> 01:11:35,239
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, we are entering some interesting times now and

1180
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:40,800
there are like new coalitions being formed and also new

1181
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,680
opportunities to shape things up. I like it because I

1182
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:49,039
personally felt that the consensus of yesteryear was very ossified

1183
01:11:49,079 --> 01:11:53,239
and sclerotic and corrupt than just downright hostile towards our interests.

1184
01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:57,159
So anything to shape that up is a welcome development.

1185
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,119
Speaker 2: So all right, so maybe to take us out here.

1186
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how we're doing on time, but any

1187
01:12:05,119 --> 01:12:08,920
comments you guys want to make on Putin or Russia

1188
01:12:09,039 --> 01:12:12,279
or the war in Ukraine would be welcome. And I

1189
01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:15,279
bring it up because Putin's kind of snatching on this.

1190
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,239
He's kind of he's capitalizing on this, and he's saying,

1191
01:12:18,319 --> 01:12:22,119
like he said something to the effect that like we

1192
01:12:22,119 --> 01:12:25,000
were going to join Western civilization at the end of

1193
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:28,079
at the fall of the USSR, but now Western civilization

1194
01:12:28,199 --> 01:12:30,680
has been revealed to not be a civilization at all.

1195
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:36,520
It's just a nest of degeneracy. I thought it looked

1196
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:37,560
like Pete was going to say something.

1197
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:41,399
Speaker 7: It's it's kind of hardened not to argue that, you know,

1198
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:46,560
and when you when I say that, when I agree

1199
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:51,039
with Putin, I'm not saying that Russia isn't a nest

1200
01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:54,880
of degeneracy, that there's not a degeneracy there, that there

1201
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:59,920
isn't hubbad presence in Russia. There is, there are, there's

1202
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:04,560
still are Jewish oligarchs there. I think people will say

1203
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,720
that that's just total proof that Putin is completely owned

1204
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:12,680
by them, and I mean, I don't care whatever. The

1205
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,479
fact is is that the man spoke truth. We are

1206
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,000
completely corrupt. Look at I mean, we're just talking about

1207
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,399
the United States. Look at Europe. I mean, Europe has

1208
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,680
it worse than us, and I think, yeah, I feel

1209
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,359
bad for them, but you know, they are they're dangerous

1210
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:36,039
to us because they're they're trying to drag us into

1211
01:13:36,079 --> 01:13:39,560
like a war with Russia. They want and they want

1212
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,800
war with Russia. They they yeah, yeah, I mean I

1213
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,760
hate to say it, but really, you know, because it

1214
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,000
pisses so many people off in Europe. But I think

1215
01:13:50,039 --> 01:13:56,000
if people really understood the situation that they're in and

1216
01:13:56,039 --> 01:14:00,800
how fucked up it is, Russia marching to the Atlantic

1217
01:14:01,079 --> 01:14:04,640
and taking over everything would improve their lives one hundred percent.

1218
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I had in my mind when I

1219
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:07,439
brought that up.

1220
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 7: Pete, Yeah there, I mean, you're look there, It's not

1221
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:17,079
going to be this gigantic Jewish plantation anymore, the Zio

1222
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:23,520
Jewish plantation anymore. If Russia did that, it's there is,

1223
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,640
there's it's it's going to be hard to get rid

1224
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:32,119
of all of the Jewish influence. But it's obvious that

1225
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:37,439
whatever Jewish influence there is in Russia is against the

1226
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:42,920
Jewish the Jewish influence in Europe. And but the European

1227
01:14:43,119 --> 01:14:47,279
influence is so much more damaging, so much more dangerous.

1228
01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:51,119
I mean, it's it basically makes you hate yourself. It imports,

1229
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,720
you know, savages into your countries to rape your women.

1230
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,239
And then if you mention that your woman has been

1231
01:14:57,359 --> 01:15:00,199
raped that you know, you go to jail. You know,

1232
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:06,119
if it's you're never going to have the perfect It's

1233
01:15:06,199 --> 01:15:09,520
all about trade offs. If I was if I lived

1234
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,680
in Germany right now, I would much rather Putin be

1235
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,279
in you know, Putin's influence be in charge and Russia's

1236
01:15:16,319 --> 01:15:19,279
influence be in charge. I would much rather have an

1237
01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:23,119
ethnic Germany. I would much rather have France be for French,

1238
01:15:23,279 --> 01:15:26,239
for the French. Germany's a Germany be for the Germans,

1239
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,800
Sweden be for the Swedish, England be for the English.

1240
01:15:31,319 --> 01:15:34,560
But that's not where we're at right now. And really

1241
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,600
the only one who I think could clean up what is,

1242
01:15:39,199 --> 01:15:45,680
you know, absent of a revolution in Europe where you know,

1243
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:50,960
a you know, a kind of ethnic revolution in every country,

1244
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,399
someone's gonna have to come in from the outside and

1245
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,560
clean it up. And that's obviously it's going to I mean,

1246
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,279
we're the we can't do it because we're controlled by

1247
01:16:01,279 --> 01:16:04,840
the same people. It looks different in our country just

1248
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,239
because of because our country and our culture is different,

1249
01:16:09,119 --> 01:16:11,920
but it's the same thing. The only thing that seems

1250
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,720
to be different is Russia. And I know there's people,

1251
01:16:15,159 --> 01:16:21,279
the Jews Burgs who can't who think that like every Jew,

1252
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,640
all Jewish power is the exact same thing. I mean,

1253
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,960
I can't help those people. I really can't nothing you

1254
01:16:29,039 --> 01:16:32,520
say to them, because they're so they're so low IQ.

1255
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:37,239
They really shouldn't be following politics. Sports would be better music,

1256
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,399
you know, go, you know, just go delve into the

1257
01:16:40,399 --> 01:16:45,039
goy slop'll it'll be it'll be better for you. I mean,

1258
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:52,039
stop talking, you stop talking, Take that information and use

1259
01:16:52,079 --> 01:16:54,119
it to get your life straight whatever.

1260
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 4: But I mean, right now.

1261
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 7: Russia would be a much Russia Putin would be a

1262
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,640
much better influence over Europe than what they have now,

1263
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:14,760
which is, you know, just basically a global zionism.

1264
01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 4: Jo JSETI disagree with me.

1265
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,119
Speaker 3: No, no, I fully agree.

1266
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:24,079
Speaker 8: I think it's wise for people to just not get

1267
01:17:24,119 --> 01:17:27,840
too caught up in the emotions of my political stuff

1268
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,760
and just view things soberly and just remember you can

1269
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,000
only have so much impact.

1270
01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 3: So as long as everybody just becomes like a better

1271
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,199
unit and does their part, things will be fine.

1272
01:17:40,399 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 1: Well, I think I've been saying Zelenski's days remembered.

1273
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 2: I think the wars.

1274
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: I think we're watching the war wind down the caveat that.

1275
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,960
If America suddenly infuses a massive military aid package to

1276
01:17:54,079 --> 01:17:56,000
Ukraine to keep the war going, I don't think they're

1277
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,600
going to be able to keep it going.

1278
01:17:58,199 --> 01:17:58,319
Speaker 8: Uh.

1279
01:17:59,159 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: The infrastructure, sure, the scandal in Ukraine was over the

1280
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:07,760
was over fortifying the energy infrastructure against Russian attacks. Those

1281
01:18:09,079 --> 01:18:10,920
all right, I think we're getting Jose, and you have

1282
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:11,720
to get going, buddy.

1283
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to bounce, all right.

1284
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 4: A little bit to close it out. Yeah, all right,

1285
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,119
let Jose, Let Jose.

1286
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,159
Speaker 2: If you have a second for the last word, man, sure,

1287
01:18:26,199 --> 01:18:26,399
you know.

1288
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,159
Speaker 3: I'd like to thank you guys again for having this discussion.

1289
01:18:29,239 --> 01:18:32,840
It's very necessary, and I think it's illuminating in the

1290
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:38,079
light of the recent Epstein file releases about learning about

1291
01:18:38,079 --> 01:18:41,960
who actually governs US and what the real powder center

1292
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:45,000
is in the West. And I think it's very important

1293
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,600
that these discussions are had and that the they be repeated,

1294
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,520
because repetition is the key to learning some of this stuff,

1295
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,239
because for many people it could be a shock and

1296
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,840
it makes them take leave their senses at first, but

1297
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,720
then you have to kind of explain it and break

1298
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,359
it down a few times. But that's how the game goes.

1299
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,479
So I think it's I'm absolutely grateful to be discussing

1300
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,319
with other like minded people on these issues.

1301
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it was great to have you.

1302
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,199
Speaker 1: I think you're a great guest for the inquisition, And Pete,

1303
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:16,000
I do have a couple of minutes to uh to

1304
01:19:16,039 --> 01:19:16,640
finish up here.

1305
01:19:17,279 --> 01:19:22,319
Speaker 2: Thank you, jose all right, see you guys.

1306
01:19:22,399 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 3: Thank you all right.

1307
01:19:24,039 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: Actually, Pete, I want to get your opinion on this.

1308
01:19:26,039 --> 01:19:30,840
So what I was saying is that the energy infrastructure,

1309
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,720
the scandal in Ukraine was they were skimming off the

1310
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:38,000
top of energy infrastructure fortifications and we even saw them

1311
01:19:38,119 --> 01:19:42,800
purposely buying cheaper, shitty stuff that didn't really protect it.

1312
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,479
And they were also taking a really really long time

1313
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:49,600
to rebuild fortifications that Russia knocked out. And the reason

1314
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,680
they were taking a really long time is because they

1315
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,800
were trying to find the cheapest UH contractor or bitter

1316
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,920
that they could and if they couldn't find one that

1317
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,760
was cheap enough, and when I say cheap enough, I

1318
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,840
mean one where they could skim the most money off

1319
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,000
the top of they would wait and they would hold out.

1320
01:20:05,239 --> 01:20:08,720
They held out for two months on one contract to

1321
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,439
see if they would bring the price down, and in

1322
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,880
that time, Russia hit the infrastructure yet again, hit the

1323
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,079
power grid yet again. So right now there's lots of

1324
01:20:16,119 --> 01:20:20,399
places in Ukraine without power, and just yesterday, which would

1325
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:25,199
be February second, Russia committed another attack on the power

1326
01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:28,359
grid and so things are not looking good.

1327
01:20:28,359 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 2: And I wonder what you think.

1328
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: I thought it would be over by the end of

1329
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,600
twenty twenty five once the scandal broke, though, I said,

1330
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,119
without an infusion of military aid, which I don't think

1331
01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:41,840
is coming. I really don't think Trump and Dvance's meeting

1332
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,439
with Zelensky was kfab. I think they were cutting him

1333
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,279
off and it looks like they did cut him off.

1334
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,479
I don't see how it's gonna I just don't think

1335
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,399
it's possible. I don't think it's possible for it to

1336
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,640
last to the end of twenty twenty six. I think

1337
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,039
it'll probably wind down in the summer. And last thing

1338
01:20:59,039 --> 01:21:01,600
I want to say is that the people who got

1339
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,960
fired over this scandal, of whom there were a bunch,

1340
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,720
although of course two of them fled to Israel. Uh,

1341
01:21:07,399 --> 01:21:11,560
there's there's seats were sitting vacant for months. Zelensky wasn't

1342
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:16,600
able to fill them, so so like they haven't recovered

1343
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:17,359
from the scandal.

1344
01:21:18,039 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: So I want, I want.

1345
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,039
Speaker 1: I mean, I could say more about why is Zelensky

1346
01:21:22,079 --> 01:21:24,079
holding out. I think he's holding out, as we saw

1347
01:21:24,079 --> 01:21:27,520
in the Epstein files, he's controlled by Israel. I think,

1348
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:28,960
And this is one of the things I mainly want

1349
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,199
your opinion on Pete. I think he's being told to

1350
01:21:32,319 --> 01:21:35,920
keep Russia engaged while they're trying to work out Iran,

1351
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,239
and they want to. They want to they want to

1352
01:21:38,279 --> 01:21:40,680
strike Iran. They want to convince Trump to strike Iran.

1353
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:41,840
I don't know what they want to do. They want

1354
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,119
to do another fucking gay op uh, two of which

1355
01:21:46,199 --> 01:21:48,800
one in the summer and one in this recent Color revolution,

1356
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:51,800
neither of which has worked. It's the only sense I

1357
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,720
could make for why Zelenski's holding out.

1358
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 7: I don't think they need to keep this going on

1359
01:21:58,279 --> 01:22:01,359
to do the Iran thing. Russia's going to get involved,

1360
01:22:01,359 --> 01:22:03,039
they can get involved. It's not like they're going to

1361
01:22:03,039 --> 01:22:06,079
be fighting a two front war. They're just going to

1362
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:13,359
be It will just be support of information and weapons platforms.

1363
01:22:14,199 --> 01:22:17,600
So I don't really know that Russia needs to be

1364
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:24,199
distracted by keeping this going. I think the one thing

1365
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:30,520
that does show is that the when they realized that

1366
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,159
they weren't going to be able to destroy Russia. I mean,

1367
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:39,000
they honestly believed that Ukraine was going to, you know,

1368
01:22:39,159 --> 01:22:43,680
was going to be able to hurt Russia. And I

1369
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,920
mean to a certain extent. I mean a lot of

1370
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:50,760
people dead, a lot of people wounded. But really what

1371
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,239
it comes down to is they decided afterwards that just

1372
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,800
Ukraine needed to be destroyed as much as possible. And

1373
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,520
I think that's what's happening right now. And I don't

1374
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,560
think that Putin can back down. People can be like, well,

1375
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,199
Putin's doing this on purpose because there's Jews on one

1376
01:23:05,239 --> 01:23:07,640
side and there's Jews on his side and everything like that.

1377
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:12,159
It's like, I mean, sure you can be that simplistic

1378
01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:14,760
about it, or you know, you can really think about

1379
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,920
what's going you know what's going on there, and you know,

1380
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,079
to make it as simple as possible. You could say, well,

1381
01:23:22,079 --> 01:23:24,920
he's just looking to save face. But you know, when

1382
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,479
Putin starts off an interview by going through the history

1383
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:32,439
of Russia, I don't think that's k fabe. Yeah, I

1384
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:39,199
think that is him going, look, we're the Russians. Everybody's

1385
01:23:39,239 --> 01:23:43,239
tried to kill us, and you know, the Jews almost did,

1386
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:49,399
but we're back, and we have to play this game

1387
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:53,119
because it's a global game and there are global players,

1388
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:59,239
but we're not. You can't you can't just tell us

1389
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,720
that this land is not ours, because it is. And

1390
01:24:06,119 --> 01:24:11,399
I think at this point Putin is just he's keeping

1391
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,880
it going because he knows that if it stops, if

1392
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,039
he stops, he's going to be seen as weak.

1393
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,399
Speaker 4: He needs the other side to back down. That's it.

1394
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 7: I also think that there are hardliners in his gun.

1395
01:24:25,079 --> 01:24:28,119
He is not the most radical person in his government.

1396
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:30,680
I mean, it is hilarious that people think that he's

1397
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,279
like some kind of you know, Dictator. I mean, he's

1398
01:24:33,319 --> 01:24:35,560
a strong man because he has to be, because the

1399
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,840
culture demands a strong man, that area of the world

1400
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,000
demands a strong man. I mean, you're when you were

1401
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,720
at eight time zones and you command that you have

1402
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:50,079
to be a strong man. But he is basically saying, look,

1403
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,720
this is ours. I'm not going to give up on it.

1404
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,840
And if I give up on it, I'm just going

1405
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,880
to appear weak. And they're going to keep coming after us.

1406
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,920
And they're going to keep coming after us, and they

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he will keep coming after him, but at least he'll

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be he'll be able to stand up and go, we.

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Speaker 4: Won this, this is ours. We're gonna We're gonna keep it.

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It's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: He needs to secure the don Bass in Crimea, and

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he needs to keep NATO missiles out of out of Ukraine.

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But yeah, I mean there's no reason for him to

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back down. All right, man, any last thoughts. I think

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this was a fantastic episode. I can't wait for the

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listeners to take this in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna go eat some lunch.

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Speaker 1: All right. We will work on the next one behind

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the scenes until then. Thanks for listening to the inquisition, Pete,

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thanks for your time and your insights.

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Speaker 4: As always, of course thanks man.

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Speaker 2: All right man,