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Speaker 1: a little bit later, So, Taylor Field, what did you
Speaker 1: think of episode four? This was a this is a
Speaker 1: big one lot. We got cameos, we've got reveals, we've
Speaker 1: got a big death. So, as I said, it isn't
Speaker 1: spoils so you can say whatever you want you now,
Speaker 1: but yeah, what do you think what episode four?
Speaker 3: This episode was awesome.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: It's just when you finish episode three and you kind
Speaker 4: of think, okay, this is kind of like the trajectory
Speaker 4: of where we're going with enor Apocalypse, Junior, I think
Speaker 4: you kind of got it figured out, like Okay, like
Speaker 4: Fate's kind of resuming this guy, like he's just he's corrupt.
Speaker 3: And all that.
Speaker 4: But when you get to this episode, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: maybe there's some redemption going on here that could happen.
Speaker 3: Unless I'm getting my.
Speaker 4: Episodes confused, but especially that's how this episode was started,
Speaker 4: right because they that it wasn't the Shine yet.
Speaker 1: And the episode three was like the idea we could
Speaker 1: and then this episode was all about like like they're
Speaker 1: at the campfire when he's talking to Rogue, so I
Speaker 1: think maybe we love Yeah, maybe we could turn them.
Speaker 2: I think that's what they're hoping.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was rooting for that concept. I thought
Speaker 4: would be really really cool, but it's hard to know
Speaker 4: with all this time travel gimmicky stuff when it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: we're supposed to like the shit hits the fan and
Speaker 4: we're enabling that because we're supposed to have it hit
Speaker 4: the fan and we will come out on top later
Speaker 4: on another point in time. This is all just jumping
Speaker 4: around through time, and I feel like, Okay, now We're
Speaker 4: four episodes done, and I guess four episodes in and
Speaker 4: we've kind of concluded the setup that the finale for
Speaker 4: season one had. I feel like with how all of
Speaker 4: our characters have kind of reunited now minus one obviously,
Speaker 4: But that being said, everything with with M seven fuck
Speaker 4: Me Crazy ye, Apocalypse, Yeah, Apocalypse Junior, everything with this
Speaker 4: build up and whatnot, I was I was jiving with it.
Speaker 4: He was so terrifying and freaky, and it was really
Speaker 4: cool just to see him kind of rise up. And
Speaker 4: this is all lore and and comic book stories that
Speaker 4: I'm so unfamiliar with. So when we see him walking
Speaker 4: in and it's like, oh, this is a ship he
Speaker 4: used to fly around in, and like, oh, okay, he's
Speaker 4: dealing with the Celestial because now I know the Celestials
Speaker 4: are through obviously Falcon Brave New World and uh Eternals. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So getting to see how Eternals impact with mutants and
Speaker 4: now the Celestials impact with Apocalypse, that that's It's really cool.
Speaker 4: It's really awesome to see everything kind of tying in
Speaker 4: together here and how the Celestial is choosing to give
Speaker 4: Apocalypse his all this power and whatnot. Just some crazy
Speaker 4: shit really crazy shit, and.
Speaker 3: I'm driving with it.
Speaker 4: I really really am so and just what he does,
Speaker 4: how he just throws that line back at.
Speaker 3: Xavier.
Speaker 4: You know, cowards don't step on ants, and he just
Speaker 4: steps over Xavier and walks away. He's like, God, damn,
Speaker 4: what a This guy's just the personal vendetta hear is crazy.
Speaker 3: And I just think it's in.
Speaker 4: Retrospect when you take this episode and then you can see, Okay,
Speaker 4: these events that happen in time travel have happened before.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming so when you see Apocalypse facing Xavier Magneto
Speaker 4: in the past, and like the X Men animated series,
Speaker 4: I just feel like it has more weight because these
Speaker 4: characters have thousands of years of history with each other
Speaker 4: versus just meeting for the first time kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: I feel like these episodes have retroactively made the previous
Speaker 4: episodes more of a deep dive and prop them up
Speaker 4: because of the dynamic and the relationship between the care
Speaker 4: solely due to the fact that they're traveling through time.
Speaker 4: If that makes sense. Yeah, so yeah, I think it's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah No, this episode continue to deliver again this season
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: I was talked about last week of Okay, we had
Speaker 1: some writer changes, some things changed up, honestly for a
Speaker 1: bunch of real life reasons, but what was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It was still a team and and that writer still
Speaker 1: has credited, so they probably have their bones on here
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: But no, this was phenomenal. I think it's we'd heard
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: I think it's like a smaller version of what we
Speaker 1: got with Gambit last year. But man, there is multiple moments.
Speaker 1: It's always tough. There's one thing we'll talk about when
Speaker 1: we get to the end credit and I con is the
Speaker 1: same thing as it was last week, where I just
Speaker 1: wish we had more episodes to take time because you
Speaker 1: weren't here. But I just said, like I hated that
Speaker 1: the future heroes already got back to present day with
Speaker 1: like by the end of their episode. I just like
Speaker 1: we could spend we literally and even this arc too.
Speaker 1: I think it's still for what they can do, and
Speaker 1: again it might be their choice. I don't know how
Speaker 1: they produce these things, but in thirty four minutes, man,
Speaker 1: you get a lot in here. Any you feel like
Speaker 1: it's art fulfilled. But I even thought, like, man, what
Speaker 1: if we would have got two to four more episodes
Speaker 1: of them with Apocalypse because I've already feel like they
Speaker 1: build the journey of hey, could we turn Apocalypse to
Speaker 1: be an X Men? Right, so already and again that's
Speaker 1: one of the highlight scenes this episode is Rogue and
Speaker 1: Apocalypse talking here, because this is Apocalypse, who's like, you know,
Speaker 1: killed many muns or done many terrible things in the show, right,
Speaker 1: and here she has seen the guy before, and she's
Speaker 1: seeing that he has somewhat of a heart and also
Speaker 1: talking about his origins as far as him being sold
Speaker 1: off and just being used for work and stuff. So
Speaker 1: it definitely props up. And that's where I think there's
Speaker 1: some great stuf about the original series, but this, like,
Speaker 1: and that's a kudos to the team.
Speaker 2: This makes the original series.
Speaker 1: Better for Apocalypse because I think we talked about where
Speaker 1: Apocalypse had like the big bad guy scary Vies, but
Speaker 1: he never got past like just like an evil big villain, right,
Speaker 1: They didn't really in that original show, I think do
Speaker 1: justice to him as far as there was stuff around
Speaker 1: like the Four Horsemen and his takeover. But for Apocalypse,
Speaker 1: he was just like, I am bad and he's very
Speaker 1: power so okay cool, and he's a cool look obviously,
Speaker 1: but with this they've put so much for the context
Speaker 1: of the last show and this show because I think
Speaker 1: this is the end of an arc, I guess, but
Speaker 1: I think he could be back again.
Speaker 2: Just like in a couple episodes or so. I don't know,
Speaker 2: because I.
Speaker 1: Feel like you still need a big bad for this season.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's someone else I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: There's already multiple big bats that could be at play here.
Speaker 1: But no, I that's where that Rogan Apocalypse scene that
Speaker 1: was great and it did the job to humanites pocalyup,
Speaker 1: so it still did its job and got me invested
Speaker 1: that way. But I just thought, man, what if we
Speaker 1: had even a few more episodes of them just team
Speaker 1: with Apocalypse and getting to know him more and doing
Speaker 1: this all good stuff. So that's still and it's not
Speaker 1: even the biggest comb but it just still continues to be.
Speaker 1: My con with this show is just still moves a
Speaker 1: little too fast. But all the stuff that's in here
Speaker 1: is good. That was good. The fight scene we'll break
Speaker 1: it down, was scary. We got an end credit which
Speaker 1: was fun. We got a big reveal which was fun.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's all the character dynamics makes sense. And
Speaker 1: then obviously the big moment what they.
Speaker 2: Needed was just like heartbreaking and for a guy that's
Speaker 2: you know, like bad or whatnot.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and that's where I just I'm always a
Speaker 1: sucker for because even talk about right where like, oh,
Speaker 1: we screwed everything up because they're now they go to
Speaker 1: Apocalypse and now we'll go in the Flips overview they
Speaker 1: go to or in Sumner and they now they go, Okay,
Speaker 1: our approach is we're gonna tell We're gonna tell them
Speaker 1: all the future.
Speaker 2: We're gonn tell we're from the future.
Speaker 1: We're gona tell them what's bad, and we're gonna try
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you work with us, we can get
Speaker 1: on the right path. Right, And I like any of
Speaker 1: those type of time travel stories where okay, what if
Speaker 1: we could maneuver to make this happen.
Speaker 3: It's like the Black Panther Thanos what if episode?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, one hundred percent. It's similar to that. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's it's okay, well, how can you, you know,
Speaker 1: get Fantas on the Ravagers, how can you get Apocalypse
Speaker 1: as an X men? So it's like, well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: reveal to him, tell and go over there and we
Speaker 1: get to see, like I said, the story of Apocalypse
Speaker 1: of you know, his age and what happened to him
Speaker 1: and his connection with Rogan. Really talking about because I
Speaker 1: brought them the line here that they set the campfire, oh,
Speaker 1: because she said, have you ever been loved?
Speaker 2: And apocalyp says love is a pain?
Speaker 1: I can't to Ford and then roll walk away and says,
Speaker 1: but it's the only thing that makes life worth living.
Speaker 2: And that's true. Well, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like for Apocalypse at this stage of
Speaker 1: the game, it doesn't seem like he's had many people,
Speaker 1: even says like interest, people not even being in love,
Speaker 1: just people he's loved, friends or family. I guess family
Speaker 1: kind sold them. But friends they all just die around them, right,
Speaker 1: They get killed, they get taken out, So all he
Speaker 1: knows is just death and pain. So there's not much
Speaker 1: he can do about it. But I was very interested
Speaker 1: in the idea of may Need or rogue Savior all
Speaker 1: trying to turn him. I never thought it was gonna happen,
Speaker 1: just because the way it goes. I wish it kind
Speaker 1: of did for a season, just to see what happened.
Speaker 1: And that's where I would have wished that if we
Speaker 1: had more episodes with him. I think we could have
Speaker 1: spend more time with a good guy Apocalypse or maybe believed, hey,
Speaker 1: he might turn but at this episode, Oh, there's no
Speaker 1: way it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But yeah, what did you.
Speaker 1: Feel about all the scenes of getting Apocalypse origin and
Speaker 1: the team trying to trying to get through to him, like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, in the future.
Speaker 2: If you join us, maybe we can make a bigger difference.
Speaker 4: I mean, I would have a part of me would
Speaker 4: have really liked to have seen to actually make the
Speaker 4: turn and become a good guy temporarily. But I still
Speaker 4: think it's it's crazy they managed to even bounce him
Speaker 4: back after they got into a fight, and Bishop just
Speaker 4: shows up. They killed his dudes and they killed his
Speaker 4: friend as well, and he's Xavier comes in and he's like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm willing to listen to you. You know,
Speaker 4: you survived the wrath of Rama tuts, so I'll I'll
Speaker 4: listen to you speak.
Speaker 3: It's like, this is a very fragile alliance.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden he sees these cymbals
Speaker 4: on the walls and he's like, this is my destiny.
Speaker 3: You were going to rob me of my destiny? No dah. So,
Speaker 3: I mean you have his very negative.
Speaker 4: View that's just being reinforced by this belief of a
Speaker 4: celestial So. I mean the two are very much hand
Speaker 4: in hand, and it's just pretty bad that it ends.
Speaker 3: The way it does.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think I think everything was really it
Speaker 4: was awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, out of curiousity.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like a sideline here with him choosing
Speaker 4: to face off against Rama Tut right away and execute
Speaker 4: all his power. Who is the sidekick with Rama tug
Speaker 4: Ramatuts like see you next time? And he bounces off
Speaker 4: and that girl's left behind.
Speaker 2: I think that's.
Speaker 1: Supposed to Actually, I don't know, because at first I
Speaker 1: thought it was remembering Loki has that character that was
Speaker 1: also his. I can't remember what her name is, sing,
Speaker 1: let me search up her kang love interest.
Speaker 2: What's her name?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ravona Rensler, But I don't think it was her,
Speaker 1: because that's who she was in Loki, remember.
Speaker 2: And then she's tied a king.
Speaker 1: She said king's like wife or partner and stuff, But
Speaker 1: I don't think that's hercuse she also didn't she didn't
Speaker 1: time travel. It seems like she was stuck back there.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know that character. I'm trying to see
Speaker 1: if I can find a name for it, but uh
Speaker 1: her name for her, but uh yeah, I'm not like
Speaker 1: too familiar with that. Care wasn't someone like that rang
Speaker 1: a bell someone important?
Speaker 3: But I could be wrong, Okay, yeah I was, wasn't sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and then what you're referring to, like with
Speaker 1: the yeah rama tab will get to in a second,
Speaker 1: that was like he's a good a good kind of
Speaker 1: fall it havagainst Apocalypse, especially not only another big bad
Speaker 1: but another character that deals in time travel and that.
Speaker 2: Type of stuff. Right, So it's it's.
Speaker 1: It's funny we you have like Apocalypse or in Southerner
Speaker 1: as a guy that's good in the middle somewhere. You
Speaker 1: got the X Men out of time, you got U
Speaker 1: Kang who's you know at a time, So there's tons
Speaker 1: of stuff going on. But yeah, I don't know alviestly
Speaker 1: they weren't expecting the mural in the ship. And because
Speaker 1: you just have like a literal picture of Xavier and
Speaker 1: may Needle like praying and like you know, at the
Speaker 1: knees at Apocalypse, so he does think, hey, like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna become a god and a ruler, and you guys
Speaker 1: are trying to stop me from that. So that's where
Speaker 1: they weren't prepared for that. They probably should have maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they talked about them, maybe
Speaker 1: at odds or fighting. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the pain thing took over, right, and that's where he
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I'm gonna, you know, destroy everything, destroy people,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna use that pain to restructure the world.
Speaker 1: So they kind of try to talk to him about
Speaker 1: the painting and thing, but he kind of went the
Speaker 1: wrong way and took it as a Negativexavior.
Speaker 4: Just kind of like takes his his mum bannoning him
Speaker 4: and just like full on projects it into his brain
Speaker 4: to hurt him.
Speaker 1: He does that twice. He does it then and then
Speaker 1: like another time he brings it up. It's crazy, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he whant to go next. I guess I
Speaker 2: don't have much to say here. We do.
Speaker 1: We talked about in The Geek the Weekly Geek. He
Speaker 1: sees a celestial and I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: the same one from Eternals, the Aaron, the Judge or
Speaker 1: the extra cook or no, Yeah, air the Judge or
Speaker 1: whatever it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.
Speaker 1: Uh that that's where he gets his power, like this
Speaker 1: alien tech thing, which I think is somewhat similar to
Speaker 1: some of the words of I think he's just alien tech.
Speaker 1: When it's first started, I'm not sure if they've like
Speaker 1: wreckon it to be the uh the Turn or the
Speaker 1: celestials and all that stuff. But very cool scene when
Speaker 1: Apocalypse lands down. He's like covered in like the red
Speaker 1: like like like whatever celestial stuff going on, and it
Speaker 1: breaks out the whole. That's where it's crazy. We've seen
Speaker 1: Apocalypse and that's where I do trust these writers. I
Speaker 1: do have an issue later on, but I trust them
Speaker 1: to see. Okay, let's play it out and see it
Speaker 1: play out. We've seen Apocalypse so much in this show
Speaker 1: from a couple of seasons in and then he always
Speaker 1: pops back up in the original show, and then even
Speaker 1: at the end of this okaypocups here. We can go
Speaker 1: on episode one and two right like he's around him
Speaker 1: like the Origin of Apocalypse, him coming out and they
Speaker 1: have the armor and all the shots around him fighting
Speaker 1: Xavier Magneo. It shouldn't hit like it's the first time
Speaker 1: we're seeing him. It shouldn't have that type of motion,
Speaker 1: but it did. It felt like, man, this is this
Speaker 1: is a real threat and this is where again you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say take notes, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I hope. Sure there's similarities, but like there is differences
Speaker 1: between the two.
Speaker 2: But with the.
Speaker 1: Aura, it reminded me of when we saw Fantas and
Speaker 1: Finity War. Like all the fighting and some of the
Speaker 1: moves they had him doing in this I had no
Speaker 1: seen him doing the animated show, and I'm sure he hasn't.
Speaker 1: I'm just forgetting them. But at one point him in
Speaker 1: Magneto were fighting and he goes to punch and he
Speaker 1: just extends his arm like go, go, gadget. There's another
Speaker 1: moment too where the second time e Xavier tries to
Speaker 1: Rena's mind when he's in this form, he just looks
Speaker 1: back and his eyes are red and he just like
Speaker 1: shoots back.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Like he was frightening.
Speaker 1: Where I think we always said with Apocalypse, okay, big bad,
Speaker 1: but we never cared about him emotionally, and he never
Speaker 1: had that the amount of fear that he had just
Speaker 1: in this scene here and when the X Men saw him,
Speaker 1: My God, it was. It was such a good debut
Speaker 1: for Boclups, like, Okay, I do want more of this character,
Speaker 1: where I think last season we were kind of okay,
Speaker 1: we've we've done Apocalypse many times in the show.
Speaker 2: What more can we do? Well, if he's like this,
Speaker 2: then we can do a lot more.
Speaker 1: And it was it was the you know, his re emergence.
Speaker 1: He didn't really talk with many of the X Men
Speaker 1: after that because they got sent off. Fucking Magneto man
Speaker 1: with an asshole beast is like, well, beasts, and Bishop like, well,
Speaker 1: we finally got these devices, we can go back in time.
Speaker 1: Because the X Men are like, we screwed up. The
Speaker 1: faster we get out of here, the better, right, because
Speaker 1: we'll screwed up less. And then Magnio breaks the bracelets.
Speaker 1: He's like no, no, no, like, we got more work to
Speaker 1: do here. We're gonna fix it. And then later on
Speaker 1: Apocalypse is starting to come out and they go, well
Speaker 1: he's a bit weaker, he's still we'll take him out
Speaker 1: with this is what we'll have to do. And then
Speaker 1: Magnio fixes the fucking braces and now you guys get here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my fault. You gotta get out of here,
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, we don't want to go and
Speaker 1: then they go him a broke, like a little moment
Speaker 1: there before I guess we get to the big one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think of the Xavier Magnio? I guess
Speaker 1: we compared to with the what happens is Apocalypses. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about remas after apocaps is gonna get out of here.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: How this happened. Who caused the black but the black
Speaker 2: hole that.
Speaker 4: Apocalypse Apocalypse like destroy every right because he had the
Speaker 4: tech and everything, right, Yeah, so he dropped a black
Speaker 4: hole and then he's gonna get out of here.
Speaker 1: Uh, Magneto takes upon himself to stop all that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think about the fight the black hole?
Speaker 1: And then I'll see the ending of this fight that
Speaker 1: we got with Xavier Apocalypse And you were alute you
Speaker 1: a little bit about with Magneto.
Speaker 3: So the fight was awesome.
Speaker 4: I thought it was really cool because he has hands
Speaker 4: changing into like different weapons and stuff like that, and
Speaker 4: he's fighting and you.
Speaker 3: Really get to see Magneto kind of flex a little bit.
Speaker 4: It gets really intense when that black hole starts popping
Speaker 4: off because yeah, people are getting sucked in and itcinerated
Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. And then Magnetos just
Speaker 4: lands and then he creates this huge force field around
Speaker 4: the black hole and starts like levitating it and then
Speaker 4: he's pulling like he reminds me of that Star Killer
Speaker 4: trailer for a force and leash all the star store down.
Speaker 4: He grabs Apocalypse's ship and it's like force pulls it
Speaker 4: down into the black hole like talk about Omega mutant right,
Speaker 4: Like holy shit, god damn. So all of that was fantastic.
Speaker 4: I was eating it up.
Speaker 3: That was really cool.
Speaker 4: And then at the end, when he's just exhausted, he
Speaker 4: comes down like a meteor out of the sky smashes
Speaker 4: into the earth, and uh, it's just it's quiet.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Charles is like crawling trying to get to him, and
Speaker 4: again it's just.
Speaker 3: It's it's quiet.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, over the hillside, like
Speaker 4: in the distance, the shadow and you can hear him walking.
Speaker 4: It's just Apocalypse walking up to to Magnus, and yeah,
Speaker 4: it just gets it gets crazy after that, but I
Speaker 4: think everything with everything with that is is great. I
Speaker 4: like how it's been full circle for Magneto as a
Speaker 4: character and how he's kind of you know, it was
Speaker 4: definitely sad and it was just.
Speaker 3: Just bonkers, but yeah, it was. It was pretty sweet.
Speaker 4: It was pretty cool, just how he went out and
Speaker 4: just he died like a hero. And he really tried
Speaker 4: to convince Apocalypse and I thought, I don't know, he
Speaker 4: he tried to send Xavier back obviously, but then the
Speaker 4: blast kind of derailed that and so them keeping Xavier around,
Speaker 4: which Xavier did nothing to. He tried, but there's nothing
Speaker 4: he could really do against Apocalypse.
Speaker 2: He did nothing.
Speaker 4: He was drying, he was trying, but it really this
Speaker 4: whole scene was just to add pain onto Xavier's shoulders, uh,
Speaker 4: just so he could see his friend die. And I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like I never really see Xavier talk smack,
Speaker 4: but he's like you.
Speaker 3: It's like you you orphan, your.
Speaker 2: Your mother should have loved you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like professor, what you're saying right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he does that sometimes.
Speaker 1: Remember last season, like he did this Apocalypse, but last
Speaker 1: season when Eric did have his helmet off and he's
Speaker 1: like shoots like the fucking concentration camps and it said
Speaker 1: like he'll cut deep. But this is like yeah, when
Speaker 1: he said, I gotta find the full line here, because yeah,
Speaker 1: he just got so bitter about it. What did he say,
Speaker 1: how wise your mother was abandoning you? Do you think
Speaker 1: she sensed your vile nature? He was just trying because
Speaker 1: he knew that so brutal. He knew that was like
Speaker 1: a sauce spot for apocalypse. But the problem is that
Speaker 1: was a sauce spot for n So it's even if
Speaker 1: it's a sauce spot for apocalypse. Sure, but he's he's
Speaker 1: shaken it off like it doesn't matter, right, And in
Speaker 1: that moment, as I said, the fight all good, all
Speaker 1: the the that all the moments when Magno is a
Speaker 1: sword and he's trying, like I said, the extendo arm,
Speaker 1: all that stuff of Magneto is great. There, Oh, actually
Speaker 1: that's sick an ad break and then we'll keep talking
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: I just want to take that because I'll be ran
Speaker 1: for a second here. But yeah, so they end up
Speaker 1: to the desert, like you said, he saves everybody, and
Speaker 1: again Magnito like he he doesn't have to say to
Speaker 1: these people, but like they're still like out of time,
Speaker 1: like he doesn't know, like He's like no connection to
Speaker 1: these people really, right, other than them just being human beings,
Speaker 1: where at some point Magnio didn't have that. If there
Speaker 1: are humans, Magnio's like, ah, fuck these people. So again
Speaker 1: it shows how far he come. I knew it was old,
Speaker 1: Like I thought it was over for a bit, but
Speaker 1: I knew it was over when I don't think we've
Speaker 1: seen this before in this show, and even then in
Speaker 1: other content.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 1: Just seeing them like Hug was like a oh wow,
Speaker 1: this is like it's weird, you know, seeing Magneto like
Speaker 1: he is saying about it, and then I wasn't sure
Speaker 1: because he hugs him, and then the fight, like you know,
Speaker 1: that's after the fight, and he hugs in the Fighter
Speaker 1: season he goes up there, and then when he crashed
Speaker 1: in the desert, I did think, oh, he's actually not dead.
Speaker 1: He just that was like a fake out, right, But man,
Speaker 1: this whole sequence, I don't know. We never made a
Speaker 1: list of the original series, but if I had a
Speaker 1: top ten scenes for the X Men original series, and
Speaker 1: this the you know death, I'll put in quotations because you.
Speaker 2: Know, no one's ever really gone.
Speaker 1: But the death of Agnato in episode four here Holy Christ.
Speaker 1: When he's landing, he closed a black hole. He stopped
Speaker 1: the ship. He landed, and he's just like exhaust, he's tired,
Speaker 1: outfits gone and Xavier season. But of course he's in
Speaker 1: the chair, so he's trying his best in sandy. So
Speaker 1: he's crawling to him. And then you got that shot
Speaker 1: of the sun. It's like the rise or set, whichever
Speaker 1: it is. But then you got the shadow of Apocalypse comes up.
Speaker 2: And he's like boom. You're like, oh my god. Again.
Speaker 1: It felt very similar to Thanos and vision from in
Speaker 1: Findy War when it's like, oh, he's coming for me,
Speaker 1: and he just same thing, picks him up by the
Speaker 1: head and he's trying to read his mind. Exavy can
Speaker 1: He's trying to read Eric's bind and just like soothe
Speaker 1: him a little bit and he's like, oh Charles.
Speaker 2: And when he takes him, I'm like, what's he gonna do?
Speaker 1: And he takes his head, he holds it and he
Speaker 1: just puts that gun and then blows his entire body
Speaker 1: away and has the helmet and he throws There's so
Speaker 1: many good shots that one of apocalyps in the sun
Speaker 1: when he throws the helmet it's just like the broken
Speaker 1: helmet with Xavier. There's this other great shot too, where
Speaker 1: the Xavier's hand is on the sand and then you
Speaker 1: see the tears hit in the sand.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, like he said, ear that line of like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, a coward would only take you know, pleasure
Speaker 1: or something like that, and stomping on an ant because
Speaker 1: like Xavier is nothing for him, his powers aren't working
Speaker 1: on he just leaves in the desert and goes on
Speaker 1: about his day. So it was like, again, he didn't
Speaker 1: easily defeat Magneedo, but in that moment, he easily killed him.
Speaker 1: And I, for one, when the hug happened, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: Magneia is dying. So again what I said, I've always
Speaker 1: seen Apocalypse so much in the show. They've made me
Speaker 1: reinvested in him. I thought, Okay, Magneto's probably gonna die here.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying good but it's like we've gone
Speaker 1: in love with Magneto. It's not like a oh man,
Speaker 1: we just got this cool cares to kill him off.
Speaker 1: He's been around for a while. I think it's okay
Speaker 1: if he gets killed off, but they still make me
Speaker 1: feel it and go.
Speaker 2: Oh, man, I didn't want him to go here.
Speaker 1: One Bishop to get back in time and one Charles's
Speaker 1: So I do hope he is dead for a little bit.
Speaker 1: I really don't want the end of season a teaser
Speaker 1: even next year. Sure, maybe next season, but like I
Speaker 1: I think it. I'm not saying he has to say
Speaker 1: dead forever, because you know, again, these are comic things.
Speaker 1: But I hope we can feel a little bit because
Speaker 1: there's something in the end credits that happens that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: like I I don't know, I'm I'm not a fan
Speaker 1: of us moving to this direction already so quickly, but
Speaker 1: the scene still was emotional for Charles and Magneto and
Speaker 1: it was great. I was it was fantastic, just like
Speaker 1: Gambit last year left me with a moment in awe
Speaker 1: of like crazy, you got me. So, yeah, let's move
Speaker 1: to I don't know how much we have to say here,
Speaker 1: but yeah, what did you think of Office? Ramata was
Speaker 1: in the last three episodes, but here he was Apocalypse
Speaker 1: while this is going on. He has all this plan
Speaker 1: but Apocalypse emerges and he's this timeline is no good.
Speaker 1: I can't I ain't winning over here. Apocalypse has taken over.
Speaker 1: So he decides I'm gonna jet. I'm gonna get out
Speaker 1: of here, gonna go to a different time where maybe
Speaker 1: I can take over.
Speaker 2: He gets in a ship.
Speaker 1: He gets in that I canmember what it's called, but
Speaker 1: that I got bullship that king has, And when he
Speaker 1: is talking to that person, like, oh, you know shit,
Speaker 1: what is the line? He says to her, I'll.
Speaker 3: Fos your destiny now or something like that.
Speaker 1: I have it here because I have it on Disney Plus.
Speaker 1: So if you're not, your destiny starts today. And then
Speaker 1: he says for his power can only be challenged by
Speaker 1: a force that is, and he says external, and then
Speaker 1: she goes, oh what do you.
Speaker 2: Mean by that?
Speaker 1: And then when she looks back, he has a full
Speaker 1: King the Conquer outfit, which I wasn't sure what we
Speaker 1: were gonna get, I thought, because I knew Ramatut. And
Speaker 1: then everyone's like, oh, King is the season right? And
Speaker 1: I was like, OK, yeah, maybe, but like a version
Speaker 1: of King right, It's like, is this going to be
Speaker 1: an actual plot point or is it just Hey, that's
Speaker 1: an emperor version of King and we're in Egypt.
Speaker 2: In that time, so let's throw him in there. I
Speaker 2: don't know that.
Speaker 1: To me, I would assume with the death of Magneto
Speaker 1: and the first four build up, I'm assuming the big
Speaker 1: bat of the.
Speaker 2: Season is going to be Apocalypse in there.
Speaker 1: EVENTU gonna take him down, maybe again, hopefully for the
Speaker 1: final time or like one of the final times set.
Speaker 2: I don't know how we do that because we take
Speaker 2: him down so many times.
Speaker 1: But I still feel like with the stakes in the
Speaker 1: first four episodes, it'd be weird to drop him. So
Speaker 1: I don't know where Kang is gonna play, but you know,
Speaker 1: we tell this on Weekly Geek. If they talk about
Speaker 1: doing ten seasons. I think Kang would be a fantastic
Speaker 1: villain for a season. I love the Kang character. I
Speaker 1: was one of those after Endgame when we did a
Speaker 1: cast I was championing. I was like, Hey, he should
Speaker 1: be the next big bad. He became the next big Bad. Obviously,
Speaker 1: a lot of things happened Major's career and even Quantum
Speaker 1: Mania was just not well received. So you know what
Speaker 1: to me, and I don't even think this was planned
Speaker 1: after like at that time, I think this they were
Speaker 1: probably already in production when Kang was a plan. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. But it's like, if you're not gonna
Speaker 1: use King in live action, which I get. I still
Speaker 1: think there was a way to do it, but I
Speaker 1: get it if you were not gonna use them. I
Speaker 1: think this is a perfect place. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's gonna come back this season, but man, would
Speaker 1: it get me juice if you're to tell me that
Speaker 1: in season three of The X Men, because they're already
Speaker 1: messing with time all the time in season three and
Speaker 1: The X Men, if Kang was like the big Bad,
Speaker 1: I would love it. So what do you think about this?
Speaker 1: Do you think it was just a funny stregg? Do
Speaker 1: you think we'll see him again? The future is a
Speaker 1: big bad, whether it's this year, next year? What do
Speaker 1: you what do you foresee here with Kang?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Man, I would like to see him come back because
Speaker 4: I think this is the perfect place for him.
Speaker 3: I really do.
Speaker 4: He's yeah, he's just he's got his own goals and
Speaker 4: aspirations in here because he's like Rama Tut. I had
Speaker 4: to google Rematut when I was watching this show, like,
Speaker 4: oh who is this? And I was like Okay, I
Speaker 4: was like, oh that's pretty cool. Okay, Yeah, he's obviously
Speaker 4: got his own m O and his mL being I
Speaker 4: want to get this power source. And then I thought, okay,
Speaker 4: well Beast wants to get this source because I can
Speaker 4: power their teleporters. But then Rama Tut's looking for this thing,
Speaker 4: and I thought, Okay, at this point, this is how
Speaker 4: Apocalypse is going to be made, because this power source
Speaker 4: is what they're they're looking for, right, So uh yeah, No,
Speaker 4: he's talking all cryptic, you know, ooh apocalypse and seven
Speaker 4: yours coming, you know, Destiny awaits you, and he's you know,
Speaker 4: getting changed and it's costume and everything like that, and
Speaker 4: and flying the fuck out of there.
Speaker 2: But changed his costume.
Speaker 3: It's like just that was just Aura farming.
Speaker 2: It was just Aura for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought I thought it was fine. I
Speaker 4: thought it was it was cool to see him, and
Speaker 4: I'm with you, I hope that they do bring him
Speaker 4: back in. And he was just he was here now,
Speaker 4: and like, okay, after we'd dealt with Apocalypse, then we're
Speaker 4: gonna have uh have him returned. It's like the main
Speaker 4: the main bad. He'd be a great Season three villain
Speaker 4: for sure if they they bank him for a little.
Speaker 1: Do we see him in all again this season? Even
Speaker 1: if it's an end credit.
Speaker 3: Oh, I want to say. No, his departure. His departure
Speaker 3: felt really.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what I would call it, but
Speaker 4: it felt like, Okay, this is the last you're gonna see.
Speaker 2: Him, finite. Yeah for now. Yeah, I think the only
Speaker 2: thing I not accept, like I accept more.
Speaker 1: But if I could see it, maybe if it's like
Speaker 1: the finale of this season, right of like hey we
Speaker 1: that ap baclups, We're all good and then that and
Speaker 1: can guys back and like, oh no, here we go.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I hope so I would love to I'd
Speaker 1: love to see more. So hopefully we get more of that.
Speaker 1: Is there anything before the post credit? I think we
Speaker 1: covered most of it. I'm screwing at the but was
Speaker 1: there anything you want to mention before we get there?
Speaker 3: I don't think, so let me put my notes to No.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we got I believe there could have been
Speaker 1: a post credit last year, but I think it might
Speaker 1: be our first post credit but I can't remember.
Speaker 2: It's been a minute. But uh, yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Got a very interesting post credit postcredits is interesting, was fun.
Speaker 2: I don't like where it's going.
Speaker 1: But this is why I message you, because in our
Speaker 1: MCU drafted people listen to the Weekly Geek. We just
Speaker 1: went over our kind of mid year results or you know,
Speaker 1: quarter two three results, and that's where we draft characters.
Speaker 1: We get points based off appearances and deaths and projects
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And two other than leading a project,
Speaker 1: which is twenty five points, two of the best points
Speaker 1: you can get is I guess three is an on
Speaker 1: as debut. It's the first time of character appears or
Speaker 1: an unannounced appearance, and an end credit man. None of
Speaker 1: us picked Steve Rogers because we were all scared he's
Speaker 1: going get killed on Doomsday, which is a negative thirty death.
Speaker 1: But right here, if someone at Steve Rodgers would have
Speaker 1: been a clean twenty five here, like a lead project.
Speaker 1: So Wolverine sit in a top building. Captain America drops,
Speaker 1: he's got some files with him. He's, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you want to do this alone, and he's, oh,
Speaker 1: don't worry, I got some friends. We don't get see
Speaker 1: what's in the files. I would wish you would say, like, yeah, Cap,
Speaker 1: I do need some friends, because I would love another
Speaker 1: team up episode with Wolverine and Captain America. But yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think about seeing Captain America and then
Speaker 1: what do you think is gonna be happening at Wolverine
Speaker 1: with EPINEX Because Weapon X is another thing that's kind
Speaker 1: of similar to Apocalypse we've done many times, but new writers,
Speaker 1: new team, so maybe they have a new angle on it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean Captain America appearing completely coping off guard.
Speaker 3: And then when I saw.
Speaker 4: Black Widow, I was seeing the spider on the uniform
Speaker 4: and all that, I was like, who is a Spider character?
Speaker 3: Like, oh, it's of course black Wood. I see o
Speaker 3: g uniform costume kind of thing. But uh no, I
Speaker 3: liked that. I thought it was it was cool.
Speaker 4: I liked their their equips with each other and all
Speaker 4: that jazz, and then it kind of yeah, concluding with uh.
Speaker 3: Uh X webin X thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think that's that's gonna be interesting. I mean,
Speaker 4: my Weapon X knowledge is fairly limited aside from logan
Speaker 4: and and whatnot, but uh yeah, I think that there's.
Speaker 3: There's some there's some juice to uh to pursue here.
Speaker 3: Uh and we'll have to see.
Speaker 4: Like I don't think Captain America and Blackwood are coming back.
Speaker 4: I think they're they're done. Unfortunately, as much as I would,
Speaker 4: I like to have had them because I mean, still
Speaker 4: we didn't really get a conclusive episode two or a
Speaker 4: conclusive part of that story where Cables got Jubilee and
Speaker 4: and they're looking for.
Speaker 3: Apocalypse. I mean that's still kind of.
Speaker 2: Gone present day.
Speaker 1: We haven't really seen the future X Men interact to like,
Speaker 1: because I assume they're all going to be back together
Speaker 1: next week or maybe the week after, so then we
Speaker 1: will find out what's going on with them. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm when the intriest Weapon acts like Okay,
Speaker 1: like I said, we've been down some at the times,
Speaker 1: but I trust these writers. Sure what are we're doing?
Speaker 1: I did talk with the Marvel Lines guys. Then Chris
Speaker 1: did remind me, which I was disappointed. It's the poster.
Speaker 1: It's in this trailer that for the show Wolverine does
Speaker 1: get his metal clause back. That's something where I go
Speaker 1: again with the show. Why why doesn't of his metal clauseback?
Speaker 1: We just lost him and he's only gonna have them
Speaker 1: gone for if you count the finale last season five episodes.
Speaker 1: I wish we col get a whole season, and I feel
Speaker 1: like we need arc too.
Speaker 2: Now Here's the thing the arc could have been.
Speaker 1: He's fighting, you know, he gets beat up. I really
Speaker 1: need my metal back. I'm hoping because I'm saying one,
Speaker 1: you could do that, and that you could build up
Speaker 1: to him getting.
Speaker 2: The metal back.
Speaker 1: If it's not that, I'm hoping he's not going to
Speaker 1: weapon X just because I need my Adamantium back. If
Speaker 1: it is, then we need to see him struggle. My
Speaker 1: hope is it's for something else or old enemies, So
Speaker 1: we'll see. I'll interest see what team he has to
Speaker 1: take with him. Like I said, I wish it was
Speaker 1: Captain America. We tubble this last year. I would so
Speaker 1: take They won't do it, but I would so fucking
Speaker 1: take Avengers show in this universe, you know, like in
Speaker 1: the nineties aesthetic because they did have an iron Man
Speaker 1: show back in the day. But still, if they say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're doing an Avengers show classic, it's just gonna be
Speaker 1: Black Little cap thor Hulk, iron Man and maybe ant
Speaker 1: Man or Wasp for something to keep that, I would
Speaker 1: kill for an animated show in the X Men animated
Speaker 1: series like that for the Avengers. So I hope there's
Speaker 1: a cause for a good cause for why we're going
Speaker 1: up next, not just I just need metal back. I
Speaker 1: hope that's not because that's like a very messory line.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: I still actually wish he would have kept the bone
Speaker 1: claws for a little bit, just to make us really
Speaker 1: feel that loss, because it doesn't feel like he's been struggling,
Speaker 1: like a few times we've seen it. He's still just
Speaker 1: been tearing through people, right, So I feel like we
Speaker 1: haven't got that. So yeah, curious who his team is.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's just gonna be X Force
Speaker 1: with Jubilee and Cable. It could just be easy, is
Speaker 1: that I wish was Captain America team a long? What
Speaker 1: did you think last week of the X Force theme?
Speaker 2: That version?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was cool they haven Yeah, well they had
Speaker 4: Cable there and who is Buddy on the opposite side?
Speaker 2: It was apocalypse when he was he was back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so a bit more heavy electric guitar going on in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I was driving with it, I really really was.
Speaker 4: I think all that stuff was was fantastic.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I think it's gonna be that. And
Speaker 1: then I do wonder because they did this, not that
Speaker 1: this is their following it. At one point they did
Speaker 1: like a comic sequel to this, the X Men ninety
Speaker 1: two show. It's not in canon at all because the
Speaker 1: show is doing different stuff. But I do wonder because
Speaker 1: they've started to put present day stuff or more modern
Speaker 1: stuff in the show. I do wonder if he's going
Speaker 1: back to weapon ex if we're going to bump into
Speaker 1: an XT twenty three at any point, whether it's like
Speaker 1: a little cameo or alluding to.
Speaker 2: So that's my.
Speaker 1: Little early prediction, but I don't know that for sure,
Speaker 1: So anything else stay there.
Speaker 3: Nope, I'll just say I think you're on something with
Speaker 3: that little prediction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even if it's like he finds a file or
Speaker 1: someone else's there. Just I'm not saying she would come
Speaker 1: back with him beyond the team, but they just tend
Speaker 1: to do that and show like hang right where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna drop this year and we could pick
Speaker 1: it up later or not pick it back at.
Speaker 2: All, So we'll see. So well, there you go, Leis Jean.
Speaker 1: We will be back next week with episode five, probably
Speaker 1: with a larger cast, and I promise you when we
Speaker 1: are back, it will not be boring.
Speaker 4: Maybe