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Speaker 1: have with me Evan how it's his first time on
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Speaker 4: Now, I know a couple of people ed complained about
Speaker 4: my audio.
Speaker 1: I tried to fix it. I tried to turn it
Speaker 1: down a little bit. You know, I'm using my phone.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty far away from the phone, so you know,
Speaker 1: with that said, you know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know what else to do except, you know, hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 1: this is better. If you guys can let me know
Speaker 1: in the audience how the audio is, that would be great.
Speaker 1: And but like tonight, we're gonna be going deep into
Speaker 1: free energy, alternative energy concepts, UFOs and astral projection, astra rems, ghost,
Speaker 1: paranormal phenomena, consciousness and spiritual divergence, physics at the edge
Speaker 1: of I'm then known temporal, non locality, esoteric and experimental science.
Speaker 1: So I'm bringing Evan to the stage now. Evan, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on for the first time.
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 3: Oh, excellent? Uh? It does it does seem like there's
Speaker 3: a little echo still, but I'm pretty good. I didn't
Speaker 3: actually catch it until we weren't live there, but I can.
Speaker 3: I can hear myself too, even with it. I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's coming through the speakers or whatnot.
Speaker 1: But I meant I'll reduce background noise.
Speaker 4: Maybe that will help, you know. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 4: They messed with me, honestly, they do, you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know how explain it.
Speaker 1: Wow, we still have a delay. We still have a delay. Sorry, guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know who dose to do we have a delay?
Speaker 1: I don't know what you know, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: Usually there's no delay on the phone, you know, Sorry
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: Do you know if it's do you know if it's me?
Speaker 3: Like if do I go back, uh go back and
Speaker 3: come back in or maybe or I'm not sure what like,
Speaker 3: I know that usually if you're over the target, like
Speaker 3: you get the static for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get everything. It's it's it's like a full
Speaker 1: you know, it's always there messing with me. You know,
Speaker 1: like it's either they mess with my intro or they
Speaker 1: mess with my my voice. It'll be too loud, or
Speaker 1: they'll make the everything sound distorted or you know, they'll
Speaker 1: cause noises during I mean, it's just like a plethora
Speaker 1: of every you know, it's like, but I keep going,
Speaker 1: you know, I keep going.
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm down. I'm down. Man.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: It seems like maybe about a thirty second layer or
Speaker 3: I don't know, like a loop of some sort, like
Speaker 3: if it's on my end for the microphone or whatever,
Speaker 3: I can. We can try to work around it if
Speaker 3: you want to. It's it's totally up to you, sir.
Speaker 4: You know what I say. I say, we take a
Speaker 4: hit us some live resident. Oh he just started.
Speaker 3: That sounds good. That sounds good, sir.
Speaker 1: Anyway, so tell us a little bit about yourself. How
Speaker 1: we got you into this?
Speaker 4: Uh? We got you into it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I guess it started off like a while back,
Speaker 3: like like astral projection originally, like well ninety seven, I
Speaker 3: was drawn to looking into astral projection and kind of
Speaker 3: had UFO and ghost experiences already, and as it was
Speaker 3: so it was, uh.
Speaker 1: What what kind of UFO and ghost experiences were you
Speaker 1: having that you can remember?
Speaker 4: Like if you don't mind me.
Speaker 7: Asking, Oh yeah, no, no, absolutely, like I had like
Speaker 7: UFO where uh, I had one when I was younger
Speaker 7: where I got scooped up maybe and I remember floating
Speaker 7: on the light outside the window. And then there's like
Speaker 7: a helicopter thing where it didn't really make noise and
Speaker 7: that was on like a camping trip.
Speaker 3: And then there was more recently like triangles and like
Speaker 3: orbs and maybe cigars even like stuff like this. I
Speaker 3: can I still see like triangles and what not like
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 4: That's fascinating.
Speaker 1: Man, that's fascinating, and that led you do like out
Speaker 1: of body experiences and naturally I guess, or.
Speaker 4: Right what happen?
Speaker 3: Uh well, yeah, kind of like the the progression for
Speaker 3: me was like like ghosts throughout my life for different
Speaker 3: uh environments, there's like uh energy that you interact with
Speaker 3: different ways or whatever, like any kind of like morphed
Speaker 3: into the same sort of topology. I guess you could say,
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't have said that even maybe five years ago,
Speaker 3: but like yeah, I mean I see it like as
Speaker 3: like maybe the same kind of energy that you work
Speaker 3: with there the people sort of addressed to like zero
Speaker 3: point energy. I didn't mean interrupt though, Sorry man, that.
Speaker 4: No, it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1: So so ghosts are originating from like zero point energy.
Speaker 1: They're just a plasma, I guess, is that what they
Speaker 1: would be?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that that kind of explains the different levels
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 4: Like if.
Speaker 3: Maybe like the the ones that the energy like negative
Speaker 3: mass would be like a like a feeding one or
Speaker 3: like a loop that's stuck in something or wants to
Speaker 3: frighten you, versus like a nature spirit perhaps like in
Speaker 3: like a like Stonehenge area that would be trying to
Speaker 3: like help us each figure out something, for instance, Like
Speaker 3: those would be the two flavors perhaps as I see it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you do you believe there's like
Speaker 8: a one that's like a playback loop like one they're like,
Speaker 8: you know, like how Gettysburg has like the soldiers and
Speaker 8: they you know, they seem to show up over and
Speaker 8: over and over again.
Speaker 4: Do you believe that's a thing too, that's.
Speaker 3: Like I feel like those are those are the ones
Speaker 3: may be stuck in in like like they were really
Speaker 3: putting their energy into into the war, and they'd like
Speaker 3: that's the highest the highest collective good they can achieve
Speaker 3: is to really relived that over and over again, versus
Speaker 3: like maybe if there is a just whatever denomination of
Speaker 3: priests there, they might not get stuck in that loop.
Speaker 1: One thing that you meant to talk about was temporal
Speaker 1: non locality, and that I'm not real familiar with that praise,
Speaker 1: but it makes me think that we're in a matrix
Speaker 1: that we're in like a stimulation. So maybe sometimes things
Speaker 1: get caught up in the simulation, like you know, things repeat.
Speaker 1: Maybe we have mendelah back. We know we have people
Speaker 1: that have things that disappear and repair. When I did
Speaker 1: DNT one time, I was coming off of it and
Speaker 1: everything looked holographic then I and then I used to
Speaker 1: follow a guy named Gerald Clark, and you know he
Speaker 1: was he was talking about Michael Talbot's the Holographic Universe,
Speaker 1: and that got me really interested in that. So it
Speaker 1: is the temporal non locality like similar to like the
Speaker 1: simulation theory.
Speaker 3: As I was just gonna wait for the loop to
Speaker 3: play out and the answer, but as I see it, Yeah,
Speaker 3: like the astral projection, you connect to like a part
Speaker 3: of like space space time gives like our physicality. Like
Speaker 3: the reason why this glass bounces off my hand is
Speaker 3: because it's in space time. I think those energies and
Speaker 3: or like when we astraally project or like even to
Speaker 3: the nature point of like when coral like can shed
Speaker 3: anywhere across the planet, like within a nanosecond of itself.
Speaker 3: I think it all just goes into there's like a
Speaker 3: part of the antenna that we have that dips into
Speaker 3: time space like outside of like physicality altogether, and then
Speaker 3: it comes back and like each like the ghosts is
Speaker 3: one method of how that manifests, and like the UFOs
Speaker 3: how they travel, Like as I see it, they like
Speaker 3: have like a bubble of our space time as it is,
Speaker 3: and then inside of it is they can do whatever
Speaker 3: the hell they want, like temporarily meaning like time wise,
Speaker 3: like so nonlocality there would be to my meaning that
Speaker 3: they could just dip to wind slash whatever they want.
Speaker 4: Wow, so they know how to manipulate time.
Speaker 1: It seems like it seems like like aliens know how
Speaker 1: to manipulate time, entities know how to manipulate time. And
Speaker 1: then also NT's in an alien seem to know the
Speaker 1: human body as well. I don't know if you picked
Speaker 1: up on this, like from from alien abductions and and
Speaker 1: people's encounters with like entity encounters and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It makes me think that like entities know how to
Speaker 1: enter the body, they know entry points where they can
Speaker 1: get in, they know things they can affect, like they
Speaker 1: you know, they go after a lot of energies, go
Speaker 1: after the mind. You know, it's it's very it seems
Speaker 1: like there's some kind of evil force that kind of
Speaker 1: like works against humanity.
Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes you know, yeah, oh.
Speaker 3: Well I totally concur first, but I also would add, uh,
Speaker 3: Like there's like the jock La point of like if
Speaker 3: there's one, there's got to be the other.
Speaker 5: Like so.
Speaker 3: Like for every douche universe where they're like you and
Speaker 3: I are conspiring to like how can we fucking take
Speaker 3: this power to hoard it, there's like a version like
Speaker 3: this where we already figured it all out and shared
Speaker 3: it with everybody. So I think those are like the
Speaker 3: two like opposing, Like there's one force trying to make
Speaker 3: us like go path A and then one force trying
Speaker 3: to make us go path B.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you think there's parallel realities then for sure.
Speaker 3: Oh I subscribe to that one thousand percent.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think you've ever tapped into a parallel reality
Speaker 1: or like have brought something back here from a parallel reality?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I mean like I could give like a
Speaker 3: specific example like for I mean not like uh you,
Speaker 3: I mean you have to take my word for but
Speaker 3: Jurassic Park. I dreamt that I was a kid getting
Speaker 3: chased by the Vos raptor like like nine years before
Speaker 3: the movie came out. Like and then there's there's stuff
Speaker 3: like the adverse of like stuff that maybe I have
Speaker 3: brought back, Like there's this laser that I made that here,
Speaker 3: I'll try to get it. Well, it's so cool, man,
Speaker 3: it moves like on its own.
Speaker 4: Dude, how did how did you do that? What is that?
Speaker 4: That's so cool? I want one of those.
Speaker 3: It's it's like one of the lasers that you can
Speaker 3: use to ah. I actually haven't gotten an answer about
Speaker 3: what's up with it? You use it to start a
Speaker 3: fire or you like I bought it, like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: I want to use a powerful laser in my experiments.
Speaker 3: And I was using it to do some stuff and
Speaker 3: I had it next to my base amp and I
Speaker 3: turned it on one day and it just it does
Speaker 3: like this fractal pattern. I have it on my YouTube channel,
Speaker 3: but it just started moving by itself. And it's just
Speaker 3: like one of those things like interesting experiments that I
Speaker 3: happen to stumble across and now today like my mindset
Speaker 3: today is like some part of me brought that back
Speaker 3: to this reality for me to figure out. But I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is for sure, but I'm having
Speaker 3: fun figuring it out. A and be like I feel
Speaker 3: like pretty much literally everybody does that. A and be
Speaker 3: like how much you listen to it and share? I
Speaker 3: feel like it helps with the coherence across the board.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: Are you able to astro project like on not on
Speaker 1: demand obviously, but like every every time you lay down,
Speaker 1: have you mastered the ability to like go out of body?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for not master, but like the if I'm enough,
Speaker 3: like if I can tell that I'm sentered enough and
Speaker 3: I can have a clear enough idea of like what
Speaker 3: I'm going for and or like a lock on whatever target,
Speaker 3: I don't have an issue like at least Zoni and
Speaker 3: information wise. It's not always like hyper clear picture like
Speaker 3: a taste or like a like pro level like data
Speaker 3: wise like Gayway mode. But I did. I did learn
Speaker 3: it from the Monroe document that was put out in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven, though for at the same time, like
Speaker 3: it's the more you do it, I feel like, the
Speaker 3: better feeling you get on it right at the same time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah yeah. Do you
Speaker 4: like Monroe's work? Do you do? You do?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 4: Like you have you done? Like the Gateway tapes and
Speaker 4: stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I haven't actually used the tapes. I did the I
Speaker 3: did the method that the paper said, but it actually
Speaker 3: says to meditate, and I never even started meditating until
Speaker 3: like maybe five or six years ago, so I kind
Speaker 3: of did it backwards. But I would be interested to
Speaker 3: hear the new method, but I don't know that I
Speaker 3: would change up my style.
Speaker 4: Also, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, I haven't been able
Speaker 1: to master going out of body.
Speaker 4: I mean kind of like I feel I'm not sure
Speaker 4: if I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, there have been times where I felt
Speaker 1: like I said I was going to meet someone in
Speaker 1: the astral and then I actually, you know, like like
Speaker 1: felt like I projected that situay in my mind.
Speaker 4: You know, I was there with that person.
Speaker 1: But you know what's weird is we can't remember anything
Speaker 1: we talked about there when we come back here. But
Speaker 1: we both know that we are there. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done that. I'm just spised to be
Speaker 1: your firm. I've done this with ex girlfriends, like you
Speaker 1: know I we love long distance and you know, all right,
Speaker 1: way we can't see each other, so let's try to
Speaker 1: meet in the astral I've actually had these experiences where
Speaker 1: like I felt like I've met a couple women that
Speaker 1: I was talking to, you know, at different times like
Speaker 1: in the astral you know what I mean, But like
Speaker 1: I can't I can't verify for sure, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: See, there's I've done. I've had that before too, like
Speaker 3: where for sure like a like I've I've woke up
Speaker 3: like made equation and be like a sense of like
Speaker 3: I've I've been lucid before, like for dreaming and been like,
Speaker 3: all right, this is a dream like fuck like cool,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna summon a crystal ship or do something like
Speaker 3: but not always a and be like there's been conversations
Speaker 3: and it's the same thing. I've been in the middle
Speaker 3: of a full deep conversation where I like total recall
Speaker 3: of every detail and like the second I try to
Speaker 3: bring that information over from the astro into the three D,
Speaker 3: like it just fucking fogs into oblivion like boof, Like
Speaker 3: this is real important. I definitely need this. These people
Speaker 3: are energies that I interact with on I'm a pretty
Speaker 3: regular basis, like I've associated as like family level and
Speaker 3: like I'm going to bring this back to the three
Speaker 3: D with me. I'm remember I need to remember this tomorrow.
Speaker 3: And then I'm like I'll wake up and I'll be like,
Speaker 3: all right, well it's a part of a book that's
Speaker 3: uh gone.
Speaker 5: Like damn it.
Speaker 1: You know what's the worst it was when this was
Speaker 1: my worst evergision. This happened to me like three times. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll be like dreaming, like I'm I'm like I'm like
Speaker 1: gambling or something, or I hit a lottery ticket like big,
Speaker 1: like you know, like you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: I think as soon as I'm in the dream, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: it's like I got one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: And then I wake up and I have nothing, and
Speaker 4: I'm like what the app.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean? And this has happened
Speaker 1: to me like multiple times. You know, It's like you know,
Speaker 1: and usually dreams sometimes can be I feel like they
Speaker 1: can be gayways out of the realities, but sometimes they
Speaker 1: can be precognition too, which means like why didn't I
Speaker 1: ever get that big wind? You know? I mean I
Speaker 1: don't play that much either, but still, you know, like
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, I don't know what that was
Speaker 1: a sign up, but or if I was just living
Speaker 1: in another reality, and I hope that reality out.
Speaker 4: Of the reality is in Bali nowhere.
Speaker 1: That's where I would be if I hit big, I'd
Speaker 1: go to Balli, I'd live in Bali.
Speaker 4: I watch the people surf there every day. Looks amazing,
Speaker 4: you know, like I don't know.
Speaker 3: Or maybe like both of those, both those realities like
Speaker 3: hit with you now, like you can take like you
Speaker 3: take the essence of like how much you enjoyed it,
Speaker 3: and then carry it over to like where you're at
Speaker 3: now and then like that's the fact that you remember
Speaker 3: is like oh, like man, that kicked ass to start
Speaker 3: watching balies watch them surfing, like I'm gonna definitely take
Speaker 3: the time to do make sure I get that in
Speaker 3: my on my on my time here like because I
Speaker 3: feel like it definitely is like unlimited anything you can
Speaker 3: think of in time spaces, like there's a timeline where
Speaker 3: you've already accomplished it, like at this time and or
Speaker 3: in the past and also in the future. So like
Speaker 3: that's like the the like transurfing or the like the
Speaker 3: like manifestation. I guess you is one thing. I don't
Speaker 3: like to use that word personally, but like like your
Speaker 3: authenticity walks into whatever of it, so like you you
Speaker 3: would there would be like the more you identify and
Speaker 3: or like live surfer Balley energy, like the more that
Speaker 3: is likely to happen for you.
Speaker 1: Well, oh, so you're saying to live it, like actually
Speaker 1: live it, act like it's already happened, right.
Speaker 3: To be exactly, yeah, like and you're all right with
Speaker 3: it like to to like the weirdness factor, Like I'm
Speaker 3: just as cool with like ghost showing up a UFOs
Speaker 3: as I would be to win the lottery, so like
Speaker 3: and one of obviously I don't want to mansion there, yeah,
Speaker 3: so which I'm cool with, but like the UFOs still
Speaker 3: show up, which I'm also equally as cool with. But
Speaker 3: like the the phase lock thing I think really is
Speaker 3: like like a big a big part of it. Like
Speaker 3: if they're as part of you, that's like, oh fuck, UFOs,
Speaker 3: that's bullshit, Like I think, like it just automatically rolls
Speaker 3: in your side out from picking it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, did you do you think? Do you do
Speaker 4: you pick them up? You have? You had them on
Speaker 4: your whole life? Then UFO experiences.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the the very young one was I remember being
Speaker 3: in sleep in my bed and then like floating towards
Speaker 3: like seeing a light and floating towards the window, and
Speaker 3: then waking up in the closet like WHOA trying to
Speaker 3: scream and I couldn't and I couldn't stream floating still
Speaker 3: like and I floated down towards the ground. And uh,
Speaker 3: the later life ones, it was just like, uh maybe
Speaker 3: like Rayfeon or whatever company like because I asked somebody
Speaker 3: I believe about it when they first came out, but
Speaker 3: they had helicopters with like no that didn't make noise
Speaker 3: and or could bend light and I saw those in
Speaker 3: the nineties and then me and my and I'm I'm
Speaker 3: gonna hopefully have a podcast with him, but me and
Speaker 3: my buddy saw and I'm not even I can't under
Speaker 3: exaggerate or I'm not over exaggerating, Like it's the size
Speaker 3: of like a football stadium like the typical triangle like
Speaker 3: two thousand of those maybe easily like huge we fall.
Speaker 3: We watched it go from like a pretty small rural
Speaker 3: area to like above a Walmart and Trader Joe's, and
Speaker 3: then I like crept a little faster and like a
Speaker 3: dot like like straight out of Star Wars, like fucking
Speaker 3: to light speed, like like a full we could make
Speaker 3: out tech on the back of it triangle with like
Speaker 3: lights so like a flash spec like no noise, not
Speaker 3: not at all, like and we were watching it for
Speaker 3: like forty five minutes like that's that was the one
Speaker 3: that where I was like, wait, that's not gas powered.
Speaker 3: And yeah, my buddy he processed it pretty pretty hardcore
Speaker 3: too on his in his own way, But that was
Speaker 3: like the the scale tipper for me, like in terms
Speaker 3: of like, oh shit, like these are definitely something's going
Speaker 3: on here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like do you think you have some kind of
Speaker 1: relation to them or something like that, or do you
Speaker 1: think they you have some kind of you think you
Speaker 1: have like you're like a bike a Pleiadian or something
Speaker 1: like that, or some kind of like in star seating
Speaker 1: carnate or something like that.
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, there was something on the Jesse Michaels thing earlier.
Speaker 3: He said something about, oh, the chain smokers. He's like, oh, hey,
Speaker 3: and hybrids. There's chain smokers. And I was like literally
Speaker 3: like oh, like and something else about like uh uh.
Speaker 3: Gary Nolan said something about the pattern the pattern of
Speaker 3: folks that spot him are usually there's something when you
Speaker 3: get picked up is like, uh, it has something to
Speaker 3: do with your the way you process, so like I
Speaker 3: don't look at it like an ego way or like
Speaker 3: a fucking some people better than others. I just think like,
Speaker 3: like the wiring picks up different stuff. Maybe it might
Speaker 3: you might have like maybe not as long of a
Speaker 3: time here as a result, maybe or maybe not. But
Speaker 3: like I think I think different folks like have different
Speaker 3: capacity for it or whatever, so like it could be
Speaker 3: relative of mind down the line or in the future
Speaker 3: or the past or something or but I think the
Speaker 3: I think that the way the the person picks it
Speaker 3: up in or works with it is like kind of unique.
Speaker 3: Like hopefully it's not super death sentence, but but I'm
Speaker 3: hopeful for that anyway.
Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, well I was looking up on my
Speaker 6: notes to see, uh what else.
Speaker 5: Here?
Speaker 4: Okay, we talked about timbering on, like how do UFOs
Speaker 4: it goes? What about your ghost experiences were they?
Speaker 1: Were they real vivid or do you do you remember
Speaker 1: having a lot of them or like what happened with that.
Speaker 3: Like way back all the way to like little kiddo, uh,
Speaker 3: like remember seeing a super vivid like like I like
Speaker 3: fully awake, a hand come up from the side of
Speaker 3: the bed and then suck back down and then two
Speaker 3: like that was maybe five or six, so like super
Speaker 3: dark stuff to like uh around the same time as
Speaker 3: that UFO, I mean like pretty much throughout my life,
Speaker 3: like I used to be like my bed would shake
Speaker 3: over now when I was sleeping, which I didn't necessarily
Speaker 3: attribute to a ghost. But there was another real vivid
Speaker 3: one with a group of us in the daytime. Actually
Speaker 3: like down the mast there was a ghost that did
Speaker 3: whatever in the attic and we were all sitting in
Speaker 3: the living room. Saw circle of couches and then I
Speaker 3: was kind of standing at the doorways. We heard like
Speaker 3: a trumping upstairs and like behind me it was steps.
Speaker 3: I heard like a trumpet come down. The door flew open,
Speaker 3: and then like we had like blankets to divide the
Speaker 3: for heat to keep the heat in and like the
Speaker 3: blanket right there blue open by the bathroom, and then
Speaker 3: next to me the blanket blew open. I felt like
Speaker 3: a heat moved through me and then this blanket moved
Speaker 3: or like blue open. There was another blank and the
Speaker 3: door in the kitchen blew open. We heard trumping go
Speaker 3: down the stairs and then they're the bottom door at
Speaker 3: the bottom during the day, blue open, and like we're like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's like in front of like five of us, we
Speaker 3: were like, oh, that's that's the first.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 3: That was the most the most vivid one that, like
Speaker 3: I could because I'm still friends with the people, like
Speaker 3: I could probably get them to come on camera and
Speaker 3: be like, oh, yeah, it's sucked up. I remember that.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's crazy. Who do you think it was they?
Speaker 3: I think that one because it was in Massachusetts and
Speaker 3: it was really old, I think, and right across the
Speaker 3: street from a church. I think that was really dark,
Speaker 3: some some really dark badness that didn't want to be
Speaker 3: around anything positive.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely, Yeah, here this is this is awesome.
Speaker 6: It's an awesome show man, Like, I'm really glad you
Speaker 6: came on. You're really easy to talk to.
Speaker 3: Oh, shit you too, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you guys have any questions for Evan
Speaker 1: in the chat. But with your question, so, how did
Speaker 1: you build a laser? Like how the hell did you
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't really build it so so so
Speaker 3: much as like uh, uh, I got turned on to
Speaker 3: Dave Rossy like the Dave z ed channel or whatever,
Speaker 3: and uh kind of started me on the like spiral
Speaker 3: for like, oh, ship, the zero point energy is real
Speaker 3: and I'm like, all right, well, so out of all
Speaker 3: the things that you could get into too to maybe
Speaker 3: fuck around and find out with it, like blazers seemed
Speaker 3: the safest to me, Like I don't want to do
Speaker 3: electricy Like I was wrong about that, Like I don't wanna.
Speaker 3: I don't want to mess around with whatever frequencies and
Speaker 3: stuff like oh you are if you do it correctly,
Speaker 3: you wind up getting a bunch of the wires crossed.
Speaker 3: So I'm definitely not on Dave's level or uh like
Speaker 3: the Tom Bearden, but working in that direction, that is
Speaker 3: the idea. And uh, I took a laser and was
Speaker 3: blasphonetic with some crystals and magnets and I got it
Speaker 3: to basically stack on itself and convert photons to photons.
Speaker 3: So like I was like, all right, I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: stick with lasers. That's more or less what I have,
Speaker 3: what I want to win to. Yeah, for my go to.
Speaker 4: That's that's awesome.
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, like yeah, oh, this guy in the chat
Speaker 6: is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I hate when people, you know, we having time out.
Speaker 1: But uh, let's see what other questions I have for you? Well,
Speaker 1: is there anything else you wanted to talk about? Any
Speaker 1: we can kind of go wherever. Well, okay, I have
Speaker 1: a one. So, do you think consciousness is something that
Speaker 1: comes from outside of this or do you think consciousness
Speaker 1: is our brain? Like or do you think we're in
Speaker 1: an antenna for consciousness? That's a question that people a
Speaker 1: lot of people ask, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Think it's both. Honestly. I think we're like the receiver
Speaker 3: and the transmitter, like to the energy density point. I
Speaker 3: think like the more the more the we figure it out,
Speaker 3: like the better reception we get like across the board,
Speaker 3: like it's it starts off for like the receiver part
Speaker 3: or maybe the sender part. I'm not sure, Like it's
Speaker 3: probably unique to each person, but like I think.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 3: I think that you start off like just like the
Speaker 3: trickle of it, and then eventually you get like the
Speaker 3: trickle on both sides and or like a solid feel
Speaker 3: for for both incoming and outgoing.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So are UFOs national experiences goes on explanaginy Do they
Speaker 1: share like deeper underlying principles do you think?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: I would say, I would say, especially to the especially
Speaker 3: to the consciousness point. Uh, Like I think maybe the
Speaker 3: orbs are just straight consciousness honestly, and then like the
Speaker 3: triangles or maybe like stuff that that we fucked with,
Speaker 3: and or I personally think there's stuff underneath the ocean,
Speaker 3: like like civilizations, maybe that that figured out some stuff
Speaker 3: that we haven't figured out yet, and or we keep
Speaker 3: secret and that might be one of them.
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like Flakes has a question, I'll put it up on
Speaker 4: the chat.
Speaker 1: She meant sound, but she says, uh, she says, so
Speaker 1: is higher speed both light and sound.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure she is higher speed both light and sound.
Speaker 1: So she's saying, you get I guess can you generate
Speaker 1: more speed with higher sound?
Speaker 4: I guess? And yeah, like.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think, well, I think there's a bunch of
Speaker 3: a bunch of ways to do it. Like you want
Speaker 3: the idea being like you get you get whatever like
Speaker 3: sort of, I mean, you get the space time to
Speaker 3: kind of bubble or like package around your your whatever
Speaker 3: you got going on the inside, and you can, like
Speaker 3: for the light laser method, you get the you get
Speaker 3: the light to to kind of get the bubble to
Speaker 3: cook it you to that point, and then eventually whatever
Speaker 3: is generating the sound or converting the light to sound
Speaker 3: is would be moving beyond the typical speed of light,
Speaker 3: and you could also get that cooking with sound, I think,
Speaker 3: or frequencies just straight frequencies, or there's a few ways
Speaker 3: I think honestly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned a really interesting thing.
Speaker 1: You mentioned something about like a big civilization is living
Speaker 1: under the ocean.
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I believe that too. I think there's something down there,
Speaker 1: like maybe alien bases, you know. I believe they're in
Speaker 1: Inner Earth too, you know, And I believe that the
Speaker 1: government knows something or something about it.
Speaker 4: But I believe I would love to see.
Speaker 1: It, you know, I would love to go to inner
Speaker 1: Earth or in the ocean, Like what do you think
Speaker 1: always going on down there?
Speaker 4: Like do you think it's it's other worlds and stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you're familiar with the Santilly
Speaker 3: pictures or whatever photographs. Allegedly, there's a I think there's
Speaker 3: a few things. Like first, the word on the street
Speaker 3: is various governments are like totally aware of like the
Speaker 3: no sailing zones, and they if they lose a ship
Speaker 3: in those areas, it's like a write off, like they
Speaker 3: know what's up with it, and be to that point,
Speaker 3: I think there's an autonomous one that supposedly floats around
Speaker 3: and builds stuff to spec allegedly and then the stuff
Speaker 3: goes back afterwards. There's a see like separate, separate society
Speaker 3: or civilization. I think that's like different than that. It's
Speaker 3: like super old like maybe Atlantis or older. And then
Speaker 3: d I think there's a separate maybe Ai and or
Speaker 3: like Parasite based in h Antarctica. That's different than all those.
Speaker 3: I think they're all like not on the same team
Speaker 3: per se.
Speaker 1: So do you think there's like maybe different factions fighting
Speaker 1: for Earth maybe possibly?
Speaker 3: And then and then our ship that we like where
Speaker 3: we like pil fit or shoot it down and then
Speaker 3: try to reverse reverse and.
Speaker 4: Ja, Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 1: So do you do you think there's different factions trying
Speaker 1: to roar Earth or something or like or get earth
Speaker 1: the way they wanted to tear form it or something.
Speaker 3: My rate on it is that the more folks that
Speaker 3: are like consciously aware that their biofield can co create
Speaker 3: the higher density like awareness or like whatever aliens at
Speaker 3: like the upper end of whatever food chain benefit the most.
Speaker 3: Like that everybody work together and like it's a group effort.
Speaker 3: Lattice does more than everybody stab each other in the
Speaker 3: back parasite mode. So I feel like there is like
Speaker 3: a battle in that sense that our awareness is probably
Speaker 3: more valuable than the physical earth.
Speaker 6: I think, Yeah, that's really well that Yeah, well this
Speaker 6: has been an awesome show man.
Speaker 4: Is there anything else you want to cover BEF where
Speaker 4: we finish up?
Speaker 3: Uh? Ducks, No, not that I can think of off
Speaker 3: the top of my head. Uh. Maybe maybe do another
Speaker 3: one on like rogue of Vendors or some thing. If
Speaker 3: if you want another random esoteric specific topic, I'm game,
Speaker 3: dougs whatever, Yeah.
Speaker 4: That'd be cool. Yeah, yeah, I'll be back on for sure.
Speaker 3: It didn't be awesome, No, it sounds sick, man, I'm
Speaker 3: saying AMPTI beyond and I'm stoked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Yeah, this was awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, how do people follow you?
Speaker 4: Do you have a YouTuber like?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm the I'm the Ancient Pathways on YouTube.
Speaker 3: I'll give you the my ex I'll give you my
Speaker 3: EXCE link to share, and then I have ah email
Speaker 3: I could share with you too if you want to.
Speaker 4: If you want, I'll put it in. I'll put it
Speaker 4: in the description.
Speaker 3: I think I appreciate it. I appreciate it, all.
Speaker 1: Right, all right, all right, well, thank you guys so much,
Speaker 1: and have a good night.
Speaker 5: Guy is
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