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Speaker 3: Now we have Ryan with breaking news.
Speaker 1: This is Eye on the Ball breaking news on Fox
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Speaker 4: All right, let's get started with some Arizona athletics news,
Speaker 4: starting with volleyball. They closed out their non conference run
Speaker 4: and they finished with an eleven and oh record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the competition wasn't all that great, but we talked
Speaker 2: about this before, Ryan where and they know this because
Speaker 2: Ada had to go through it. They have to learn
Speaker 2: how to win, right because if you struggle for all
Speaker 2: this time and then they don't know how to win, well,
Speaker 2: now you know how to win. Whether they win or
Speaker 2: not in the tough Big twelve, because it's very tough.
Speaker 2: At least you're eleven zero.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna be it's gonna be tough, but it's
Speaker 5: not going to be the Pac twelve. That's I think
Speaker 5: it's gonna be maybe a little easier, hopefully for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, outside of well who are the powers? Well, Nebraska's
Speaker 2: not in the is They're gone, right, they're gone. Texas
Speaker 2: they're gone.
Speaker 3: They're gone. We'll see.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what we've talked about with Jay a number
Speaker 2: of times. Uh, David, I don't know how you feel
Speaker 2: about this. The move, although troubling from the Pac twelve
Speaker 2: to the Big twelve was troubling. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: you didn't want to see it happened, but it gives
Speaker 2: there was on a better chance of success.
Speaker 3: Do you agree? I agree.
Speaker 5: I you know, I don't know how much baseball's played
Speaker 5: in some of these places. I mean, I know the
Speaker 5: Oklahoma States of the world have been pretty good for
Speaker 5: many years, so that's going to be interesting. But some
Speaker 5: of these sports, it's going to be a whole new
Speaker 5: ball game going into places where they're unfamiliar, and yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, we don't you know, we as fans and
Speaker 5: reporters will have to look up some of the history
Speaker 5: and sort of see how these programs have done.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I got one of these
Speaker 2: questions today, you know, how how's the basketball team that
Speaker 2: looked at him taking good I've never not said that
Speaker 2: in thirty some years. Right, you look good, And I said,
Speaker 2: but be be on the alert that they could finish
Speaker 2: third or fourth in the league, but still have a
Speaker 2: chance to win the national title, right, because they're gonna
Speaker 2: be better for it.
Speaker 5: Yep, They're gonna have all these games and you know
Speaker 5: Baylors and places like that in Kansas, Houston, Houston and
Speaker 5: TCU and some of these programs that have been in
Speaker 5: final fours and been in big games.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be it's gonna be fun to watch for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, right. Arizona center Avery S. Couggins was named
Speaker 4: the Big twelve Volleyball Rookie of the Week.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 2: Cool, I mean there's a lot of things going on.
Speaker 2: We had the coach here maybe about a month ago
Speaker 2: before the season started, very direct, very uh, and she
Speaker 2: struggled in their first year, right, Yeah, most people do,
Speaker 2: or most coaches do. And now, like I say, the
Speaker 2: winning like this beats the alternative.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's hope that they have some momentum maybe heading
Speaker 5: into their conference and some bigger games, because like you said,
Speaker 5: they're their non conference wasn't super difficult, but they got
Speaker 5: through with victories, right, beats the alternative.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Week three of the NFL completed yesterday. I think one
Speaker 4: of the personally, one of the biggest surprises was the
Speaker 4: Commanders over the Yeah, last night.
Speaker 2: That was a good game last night. It was exciting.
Speaker 2: It was better than the other one.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 5: Oh the Buffalo games. Yeah, it was like Jacksonville, what's
Speaker 5: up with that?
Speaker 3: Not good? Buffalo looked pretty good.
Speaker 6: There was.
Speaker 5: It was a crazy week of upsets. Again, are you
Speaker 5: in survival pool? No?
Speaker 2: We no, I know this is not for that reason,
Speaker 2: but week two for survival polls wiped out a ton
Speaker 2: of people. Yeah, Becau last night last week. Okay, so
Speaker 2: there's very few people left and those pools. But the
Speaker 2: funny thing about it in sports, and I got on
Speaker 2: Jay for this because he did this all time. You
Speaker 2: played well on one Sunday and.
Speaker 3: You look great. Dallas. I'll give you Dallas.
Speaker 2: First game they played and they beat Cleveland. They did
Speaker 2: him pretty well, pretty easily. Dallas is going back to
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. They look fantastic. A week later they
Speaker 2: looked like Crape.
Speaker 5: I think the NF fell more than anything is like that.
Speaker 5: You just cannot predict. I mean I was looking at
Speaker 5: it like, oh, for sure, the Raiders are going to win.
Speaker 5: Carolina is terrible. You know, I picked him in two
Speaker 5: pools and right, so you're out too.
Speaker 3: No, I'm where there.
Speaker 5: We have a three and out situations. Okay, I'm down
Speaker 5: to my last one already in week four?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all these these games, did you ever cover
Speaker 2: Antonio Pearce?
Speaker 3: What do you remember? He was tough?
Speaker 5: He was he was a good middle linebacker. Did he
Speaker 5: come in as a j Z transfer? Do you remember
Speaker 5: his personality on going hitting the personality He was one
Speaker 5: of those guys that you know you'd go to for for.
Speaker 3: Post game and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because he's another guy that And I said
Speaker 2: this yesterday, it's tough to hire the substitute teacher for
Speaker 2: the head job. And now he's going through stuff that
Speaker 2: every coach there for a few years have suffered, didn't He.
Speaker 5: He was pretty vocal about this team's performance too. Right,
Speaker 5: he's looking at making some changes. Great quotes, he said, yeah,
Speaker 5: they made some business decisions.
Speaker 3: Right, which is a great quote. They're right.
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Farvre disclosed during a congressional
Speaker 4: hearing on Tuesday that he was recently diagnosed with Parkinson's disease.
Speaker 2: Does he say how old? How does it say how
Speaker 2: old he is? It's got to be about sixty two ish,
Speaker 2: sixty three ish? I think, I think, I don't think
Speaker 2: he's younger than me. Maybe he is fifty four fifty wow?
Speaker 3: Wow wow.
Speaker 2: And they talked about concussions and things like that, but
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's I'm not a doctor, so I wanted
Speaker 2: to say that that's connected to this, but you know,
Speaker 2: you never know, you never know, right, Uh, Lions fifty four?
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, he doesn't.
Speaker 4: He looks a little bit older, honestly, based on he
Speaker 4: looks a little bit older Lions head coach Dan Campbell.
Speaker 4: And they came out and said that one of the classmates. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the daughter. Interesting story. Daughter released the address on us.
Speaker 2: Were you here when I talked about it with Jay
Speaker 2: maybe Monday? Today's Tuesday? Will you here Thursday? Maybe Friday?
Speaker 2: We talked about it. Yeah, we're thinking how crazy that is.
Speaker 2: And yeah, the investigation showed that it was one of
Speaker 2: his friend's daughters, a classmate of Yeah. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: it happened in a while back. It happened in January.
Speaker 3: And Dan playoffs, I think was right.
Speaker 2: They lost, and they lost and he said, well, I
Speaker 2: was just I didn't think seriously, just having fun with it.
Speaker 2: It's like these kids calling in for stupid bomb scares
Speaker 2: and all that. No, dude, this is serious stuff. You
Speaker 2: don't come on it's dangerous. How sensible?
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, it's I hate to
Speaker 5: say it, but it's kind of nice. I don't ever
Speaker 5: remember this happening before.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: Usually, you know, the coaches have privacy and.
Speaker 2: No right right she again, that wouldn't fly here though,
Speaker 2: because you kind of knew where everybody lived, I mean
Speaker 2: over there you need that.
Speaker 3: I mean, and fans are just cuckoo.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and these coaches are you know, they're corporations.
Speaker 3: There are big, big time money now too.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well you were here, were you know, you
Speaker 2: were not here for Skywing And we had him on
Speaker 2: the show maybe a month ago, and he misses the
Speaker 2: kick for usc against you see, No, I was here
Speaker 2: that day, that was here, that you were that we
Speaker 2: had him on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had them on.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, so we have people giving him death threats.
Speaker 2: Yeah really really damn draft kings. I mean, people are yeah,
Speaker 2: they're spending money or ending money and then they're expecting
Speaker 2: wins like that, right, don't do it.
Speaker 3: It's gambling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that happened. I think it happened last year
Speaker 4: in the playoffs in the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 4: I mean it was like the year before the kicker
Speaker 4: like missed the field goal, like a game winning field goal,
Speaker 4: and then like after that, he just starting in death threats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and his family, right, it happens all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm go after somebody and their families were. What they
Speaker 2: need to do is go out to the people that
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, well hopefully they catch him.
Speaker 4: Back twelve, they are filing our files a poaching comedy
Speaker 4: lawsuit in federal court. That was Tuesday, that was today
Speaker 4: included in a football scheduling agreement. It's I'm with the
Speaker 4: Mountain West Conference back in December.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know there's there's they got poached. Now
Speaker 2: they're doing the poaching, and then the poachers who were
Speaker 2: not being poached or poached are going to be poached.
Speaker 5: You know how that goes. You know, it's just the
Speaker 5: way of the world.
Speaker 3: The dominoes again, Well, it's crazy. I don't even know
Speaker 3: what to say.
Speaker 5: We talked about earlier with San Diego State and some
Speaker 5: of these other schools. You and lv is just kind
Speaker 5: of hanging around like they're waiting.
Speaker 3: For something, right right, Well, New Mexico too, Yeah.
Speaker 5: But I mean you and Elvi again, I would think
Speaker 5: they would be a natural of all places with with
Speaker 5: the giant stadium and it's all the politics trade of Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's all the politics now with them and Reno.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Reno.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like New Mexico or Arizona Narisola State
Speaker 2: back in the day.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So let me ask you this is just decide
Speaker 2: you have more a lot more. Oh okay, now you
Speaker 2: can going up to ask this question later. Switching over
Speaker 2: to MLB Detroit Tiger's starting pitcher Terry Scooble or schoo Ball, I.
Speaker 3: Can't remember how to pronounce his name.
Speaker 4: He won his eighteenth game, and he is lead or
Speaker 4: he's continuing to be a candidate for the Alsion Award.
Speaker 3: Is he the leader in wins? I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Eighteen No, but.
Speaker 5: The Tigers kind of like came out of nowhere. They
Speaker 5: were they were not even talked about it in the
Speaker 5: old picture. He has almost as many wins as the
Speaker 5: Chicago Whites Great Stadium.
Speaker 3: By the way too. I was there a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 5: Detroit, Detroit Comerica Park, beautiful stadium right right next to
Speaker 5: Ford Field where the Lions play. Tons of baseball history
Speaker 5: when you think about Detroit, I mean going on, you know,
Speaker 5: back to Ty Cobb and people like that. But they
Speaker 5: had all kinds of great statues and what time, what
Speaker 5: time of year it was in May, the weather was nice,
Speaker 5: and Detroit downtown.
Speaker 2: I mean you hear all these stori right, it's been
Speaker 2: fixed up. Yeah, it's it was really cool. I was
Speaker 2: there back when Arizona played and when Shan Shan, when
Speaker 2: the Miles Simon was there in like ninety seven eight,
Speaker 2: when he was out academically as to play a game Michigan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was cold. I just remember being cold. It was
Speaker 2: out out not I drove into flew into Detroit and
Speaker 2: went to somewhere else, but I played Michigan. I think
Speaker 2: it was some something it was. It was cold and
Speaker 2: it was awful, and it was you know, get the
Speaker 2: hell out of DODG. But yeah, I'm not a fan
Speaker 2: of Detroit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, we had a good time. I was with my
Speaker 5: college friends and stuff. So we got around the summers
Speaker 5: in Detroit are different than town Museum things like that,
Speaker 5: Summers are different than winters of Detroit's true.
Speaker 4: Yes, right now, the Tigers are sitting in the second
Speaker 4: wild card spot. They have a half game lead over
Speaker 4: their division rivals, the Royals, who are trying to lock
Speaker 4: up the third and then you got the Twins. Mariners
Speaker 4: are right there game and a half back. So it's
Speaker 4: going to be a tight race for the wild card
Speaker 4: in the American League.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you guys talked about the brilliant season the
Speaker 5: White Sox have had, yeah, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they I mean, come on, they were losing
Speaker 2: big like the first month, right, they were losing, so
Speaker 2: at least they're consistent.
Speaker 3: They haven't they haven't hit like a hot streak yet.
Speaker 2: No, God, how could you? What kind of players do
Speaker 2: you have to have on that team?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: We saw I actually we saw them play to this
Speaker 5: this summer. We were in New York and they played
Speaker 5: the White Sox. They played the Yankees. I know the
Speaker 5: Yankees won, but I don't even know anybody on the
Speaker 5: White Sox on their roster.
Speaker 2: Part of your success, of my success, I won't speak
Speaker 2: for you, but I don't think I covered a losing
Speaker 2: team all my career. Wow, I don't think I covered
Speaker 2: a losing team. Oh my god, Dick Tomy didn't have
Speaker 2: a losing career, did he?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: No, But I didn't cover the team I didn't cover.
Speaker 2: I was in the first three where he went. He
Speaker 2: was like seven to five ors, you know, whatever it was,
Speaker 2: and then Loot obviously didn't.
Speaker 3: So I was spoiled. Spoiled.
Speaker 2: But come on in your time, well you Macavic, were
Speaker 2: you there for mac?
Speaker 3: Was there for Max? Right away?
Speaker 5: That the worst year early stoops heres were pretty rough
Speaker 5: and that wasn't covering.
Speaker 2: I covered them a little for Fox, but but not
Speaker 2: like my day to day stuff. Yeah, you know, never
Speaker 2: come so it's easy going into winning locker room god.
Speaker 5: No kidding, but it was there were there were not
Speaker 5: too many of those years. You always kind of there
Speaker 5: was always a glimmer of hope. Especially with basketball, there's
Speaker 5: no I mean, obviously they were very good almost every year. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but some of the other sports, I mean, it was
Speaker 5: it was tough to cover him and sometimes he even
Speaker 5: as a reporter, you're just trying to justify, do I
Speaker 5: need to really go.
Speaker 3: Out there and cover this. Right.
Speaker 5: You know, women's basketball teams not doing very well. Does
Speaker 5: anybody care?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 3: So you tried to not get too caught up in that.
Speaker 4: Okay, so Scoogle actually has he has half of the
Speaker 4: White Sox wins because thirty six, Well that's crazy. Charlie Blakeman,
Speaker 4: full time All Star with the Colorado Rockies. He has
Speaker 4: retired after fourteen seasons are pretty good. I think he
Speaker 4: had a pretty good a career. I enjoyed watching him.
Speaker 4: A good defense and he was a thread at the
Speaker 4: plate as well. That's about all I got today. So
Speaker 4: you got a little couple more minutes.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what I wanted to get back
Speaker 2: to you on What was I talking about?
Speaker 5: Man, don't get old, dad, I don't know. It sucks
Speaker 5: ahead of you in that category.
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Speaker 2: Okay, the first season, uh, Arizona Hockey, I think so
Speaker 2: the which ones?
Speaker 4: I think the Wildcats? Oh, the next they had a
Speaker 4: I think it's their first season as a Oh it's
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Speaker 1: Steve Vera and Jacob SAMs. They have their Eye on
Speaker 1: the Ball on Tucson Sports Stay chat Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Eye on the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports watching fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me
Speaker 2: today is Dave Silvert. Now on the phone. We have
Speaker 2: Todd Walsh. Todd, how are you?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 7: I'm really good. It's good to hear your voice.
Speaker 3: Steve.
Speaker 7: Hi, Dave silver How.
Speaker 3: Are you, Todd Walsh? How are you good? To hear
Speaker 3: your voice too?
Speaker 7: Oh? Man? This is great?
Speaker 13: Can I just hang out and hang with you guys?
Speaker 2: So we're doing yeah, okay, we'll buy you, you buy
Speaker 2: us whatever.
Speaker 3: It'll be cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's been cool. Well we bish you down here.
Speaker 2: How you been everything else? You are you busy? Are
Speaker 2: you hoping that for the playoffs? What are you doing?
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm actually sitting down the first base side here
Speaker 13: at Chase Field, and I just had some pre production elements
Speaker 13: for our broadcast tonight.
Speaker 7: Just talk to Tory develop but.
Speaker 13: Your coach Brad Strom and people and to so I'm
Speaker 13: sure recognize and aget for the next biggest game of
Speaker 13: the year, which is tonight with the Giants.
Speaker 7: Magic number is four with five to go.
Speaker 13: If you told me that in April, May, June, or July,
Speaker 13: I would have said, I'll take it.
Speaker 7: I'll take it. I'll take it. So here we go.
Speaker 7: This isn't work. This is fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a great, great year basically when you
Speaker 5: think about last year at this time, how things evolved
Speaker 5: and developed and continued all the way into the World Series.
Speaker 5: And I mean this has been fun to watch, honestly
Speaker 5: as a baseball fan here for a long time to
Speaker 5: see a lot of these young players develop. And it's
Speaker 5: gonna be fun to see him in person, just kind
Speaker 5: of growing up right before your eyes.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it's also been maddening and frustrating for a
Speaker 13: lot of people.
Speaker 7: Here that are so close to it because of what
Speaker 7: happened last year. They got spoiled by.
Speaker 13: That run into the World Series and then the litany
Speaker 13: of injuries that just boggles my mind. If you talk
Speaker 13: about three starting pitchers, and you know, a gold Glove catcher,
Speaker 13: a gold Glove first baseman, an MVP candidate, starting short stoppers,
Speaker 13: and all are your.
Speaker 7: Left fielder, your center fielder.
Speaker 13: Goes on and on and on, and yet here they are,
Speaker 13: and there was a World Series hangover early on.
Speaker 7: There is absolutely no doubt about it.
Speaker 13: But I think the key here and especially in Phoenix,
Speaker 13: for this group is there is a need, just an
Speaker 13: unquenchable desire for sustained success, and that's a big cross
Speaker 13: to carry here in the Valley. It seems like every
Speaker 13: team has that issue, and the Diamondbacks, I feel like,
Speaker 13: are on the cusp of that. These guys are the
Speaker 13: core of this team is going to be here and
Speaker 13: they're going to be good, really good for a while,
Speaker 13: and we haven't really seen much of that over the
Speaker 13: years here. Spoiled obviously because I grew up in the
Speaker 13: shadows of covering Loudelsen, so I know what sustained success
Speaker 13: is like and man, if they can get into the postseason.
Speaker 13: No one wants to play this team, nobody. It could
Speaker 13: be another magical run, who knows, but they got to
Speaker 13: get in.
Speaker 3: So it's smarts tonight.
Speaker 2: We'll get to loot in a little bit because he
Speaker 2: just had to would would have been his ninety uh birthday,
Speaker 2: But we'll get to that in a second. You're one
Speaker 2: of those dudes, Todd. I think I'm safe to say
Speaker 2: this that you love going to the park. You're a
Speaker 2: great storyteller. You enjoy what you do. Uh and back
Speaker 2: to back years have been pretty good. It's and it
Speaker 2: sucks being suck covering up. Dave and I were talking
Speaker 2: about sucks covering a bad team. You haven't had that
Speaker 2: over the last two years.
Speaker 13: No, not in the summer and while there was a
Speaker 13: never mind, well there was a hockey Well while while
Speaker 13: there was a hockey team here, I lived at more
Speaker 13: often than not. And then to turn around and you know,
Speaker 13: parachute into the season in May, which is what I've
Speaker 13: been doing for the last twenty five years or so.
Speaker 7: It was always refreshing. But I will say that the
Speaker 7: coolest part.
Speaker 13: About it in the last three or four years is
Speaker 13: that the franchise has sort of mirrored each other in
Speaker 13: their evolution and where they were at, you know, a
Speaker 13: very clear and obvious rebuild. They didn't go halfway in,
Speaker 13: they did it full bore, and you accepted it. And
Speaker 13: then you watch these prospects come up and they got
Speaker 13: to play, and they weren't ruined by playing. It developed,
Speaker 13: and at this.
Speaker 7: Point in my life and career, that's all I can
Speaker 7: ask for.
Speaker 13: Like, somebody asked me today about the stress of this
Speaker 13: season and they're all upset about the game last night.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you can't I couldn't wait. I couldn't sleep
Speaker 3: last night. I know you guys know this.
Speaker 13: When there's a big game and you know you've got
Speaker 13: a press pass, you've got one of the best seats
Speaker 13: in the house.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting in one right now.
Speaker 7: I couldn't wait to get to work.
Speaker 13: I mean it's you know, I have a U of
Speaker 13: A degree in my wall somewhere and that's great and
Speaker 13: help me get here.
Speaker 7: But I still haven't worked yet. I'll call you when
Speaker 7: I have a job.
Speaker 5: Don't because it sucks, you know, you know what I mean, Yes,
Speaker 5: of course I'll tell you. Just get a hold of Jay.
Speaker 5: He had to go find a real job, exactly right.
Speaker 5: Quick question about you mentioned it real briefly about hockey.
Speaker 5: I mean you were so associated with that franchise.
Speaker 3: What is it like for you now? I mean the
Speaker 3: exhibition Games will begun and you know they're gone. Are
Speaker 3: you okay?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 7: I'm okay.
Speaker 3: I'm so associated. It probably cost me a job.
Speaker 13: And I know that they wanted a clean slate in
Speaker 13: so many different areas, and that was very It was
Speaker 13: a long year and a half. It's been how do
Speaker 13: I put this, It's been illuminating to see where.
Speaker 7: The direction went and then my place in it.
Speaker 13: I'm very happy with twenty eight years, which blows my mind.
Speaker 7: Going coast to coast with the Coyotes.
Speaker 13: I don't think anybody in the NHL ever dreams and
Speaker 13: things like that. I know I didn't, and so I'm
Speaker 13: very happy that I've done things that I never possibly
Speaker 13: could have imagined the course of my career covering the
Speaker 13: National Hockey League from you know, writing and hosting a
Speaker 13: miracle on ice event in like Acid with those guys too.
Speaker 13: Gave a speech for Dave Straight or the late Dave
Speaker 13: Straighter at the Hockey Hall of Fame to hosting a
Speaker 13: Shane Dones ceremony and being around these guys every day.
Speaker 7: Traveling all over with America. I can go on and on.
Speaker 13: I never, in my wildest dreams thought that could ever happen,
Speaker 13: and it did.
Speaker 7: And I was lucky enough when.
Speaker 13: It ended to be able to speak my piece because
Speaker 13: of a weird series of events that happened throughout the
Speaker 13: course of the night. I was all alone in a
Speaker 13: set and I wasn't supposed to happen away, but I was.
Speaker 7: And I just I said goodbye to hockey.
Speaker 13: I said thank you to hockey and the game of
Speaker 13: hockey and the people in it. And I got to
Speaker 13: thank the fans for going along on a torturous ride here.
Speaker 13: There's nothing as mercurial as being a Coyote fan. And
Speaker 13: at this point long answer, I'm okay, but I'm not
Speaker 13: going to get a paycheck in a week.
Speaker 7: For the first time.
Speaker 5: Year, Farewell was memorable. I mean I watched it and
Speaker 5: it was amazing. So it was.
Speaker 7: Out of body, dude, it was it completely out of body.
Speaker 7: It wasn't supposed to be that way.
Speaker 13: And I mean, but I just I remember starting like
Speaker 13: here we go, and I don't know, I just kind
Speaker 13: of felt like it was the way it supposed to end.
Speaker 7: And I'm okay with it.
Speaker 13: I've got some unique opportunities that may be present themselves.
Speaker 7: They better or my mortgage company will has I thing
Speaker 7: to say for it.
Speaker 13: But I haven't had a winner where I've not been
Speaker 13: traveling since nineteen ninety six. Yeah, so you might see
Speaker 13: me down there a little bit and that will be
Speaker 13: good for me.
Speaker 7: I would love to be down on the round and
Speaker 7: that that would be great.
Speaker 2: So Dave, do you collect stuff? Do you just kind
Speaker 2: of say stuff I have?
Speaker 3: I mean not lately, but get through my career, I
Speaker 3: said a lot of things.
Speaker 2: So Todd of knows exactly where I'm going with so
Speaker 2: he has the most unusual stuff, Like, you know, I
Speaker 2: saved the signature on a piece of paper and it's
Speaker 2: still there somewhere and he knows where to find it
Speaker 2: because it's in his grudge or so. So with that,
Speaker 2: with that sentimentals goodbye to to the coyotes. What would
Speaker 2: what did you save? You had to have saved a
Speaker 2: ton of stuff.
Speaker 7: Wow, Well, first of all, I'm not a hoarder.
Speaker 13: Sure, okay, you can actually you can actually walk through
Speaker 13: my front door and get to the back door of
Speaker 13: the house relatively painfree.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 7: What did I say from that night? I didn't save
Speaker 7: as much as you might think, because I was it
Speaker 7: was so frustrating.
Speaker 3: Uh you know, I make sure.
Speaker 13: I got a game program and I got a puck.
Speaker 13: But the point of that is I always knew that
Speaker 13: I was saving stuff along the way because I'd probably
Speaker 13: use it again in a broadcast. And I honestly, I
Speaker 13: walked down the building, I'm like, what am I going
Speaker 13: to do?
Speaker 3: I actually threw out.
Speaker 13: They had a goofy mullet giveaway, an actual mullet, a
Speaker 13: wig of a mullet an opening night at Mullet Arena,
Speaker 13: and I saw it the other day and I went, no,
Speaker 13: got to grow up when I walked in and I
Speaker 13: threw it out. So I have a few things. That night,
Speaker 13: it was more about people in the moments. There was
Speaker 13: just a parade of people that I hadn't seen years
Speaker 13: that wanted to be at that game and we share time,
Speaker 13: and you know what, that's more human and saving some
Speaker 13: inanimate objects.
Speaker 3: So maybe I've yeah, turned the corner. I don't know, I.
Speaker 2: Hope So all right, Well, well I know this because
Speaker 2: of the loot stuff. I won't go there in a second,
Speaker 2: talk about your McCoy stuff. You had something on Twitter today, yeah, and.
Speaker 7: I if you can go there, it's Todd Walsh.
Speaker 13: I started working with Alan nineteen eighty eight when I
Speaker 13: left part of the Sun's broadcast the Kareem post game shows,
Speaker 13: and we just became friends and peers, and he was
Speaker 13: a mentor and.
Speaker 7: Talked.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 13: We worked together for five years and I left kta R,
Speaker 13: but we still stayed in touch. And then in the
Speaker 13: last couple of years we kind of got back together
Speaker 13: again and we to show at his house the story
Speaker 13: of his career.
Speaker 7: That was remarkable.
Speaker 13: The one thing I remember more about that show, though,
Speaker 13: was I had to drive out from downtown to his
Speaker 13: house to do a separate interview and we were in
Speaker 13: rush hour traffic, and that's the moment I remember the most.
Speaker 3: But I was two things, if I could.
Speaker 13: I was selling a story on the air last night
Speaker 13: when I first got here. Greg Shulti, who was always
Speaker 13: putting me on, always putting me on the air, always
Speaker 13: giving me a shot, and one night he said, Hey,
Speaker 13: I've got an Ashue game out of town. Why don't
Speaker 13: you do the Sun's game without so I lost my marbles.
Speaker 13: I'm twenty four years old. I just left the basketball
Speaker 13: program at the U of A. At basketball is in
Speaker 13: my head and I'm working a Sun's game with Al.
Speaker 13: So I call everybody on the planet, anyone that I
Speaker 13: could think of, and then I start doing research and
Speaker 13: homework and I go.
Speaker 7: To the shooter ound and I mean, I am like
Speaker 7: so uber prepared.
Speaker 13: At least I thought I was that tail next to
Speaker 13: al Courtside Coliseum. I couldn't even feel my feet. And
Speaker 13: right after the ant before we came back on air
Speaker 13: and out looks at me, he goes, so, listen, just
Speaker 13: keep this simple. Just give the score one come out
Speaker 13: of break and I'll take it from there. And I
Speaker 13: just like, what But but you know what, I know
Speaker 13: why he did it, and he was right. But the rest,
Speaker 13: as they say, is history. But we did something. And
Speaker 13: I know you guys can appreciate this. In the nineties,
Speaker 13: when I was working with Julukava, we had a four
Speaker 13: hour talk show and it was the only show in town.
Speaker 13: Talk radio wasn't what it was now, but there was
Speaker 13: no baseball here, so we had four hours a night
Speaker 13: to fill and it was hard. In the summertime. It
Speaker 13: was really hard, and we used to come up with
Speaker 13: radio theater or event radio. Once a month we'd have
Speaker 13: a theme show. And one time I sat there with
Speaker 13: Jude and a conference room, I said, why don't we
Speaker 13: have some fun with the Sun Celtics triple overtime game?
Speaker 7: Why don't we do a whole show on it?
Speaker 13: Greatest game ever played in NBA history at that time,
Speaker 13: bar none, it was pretty much standard thought.
Speaker 3: So for about a month we worked on the gust.
Speaker 13: List and we had John Halchek, Tommy Heinsen, Jojo White,
Speaker 13: Dave Collins, Dick ben Arsdale, Paul Westfall, Richie Powers, Jerry Colangelo.
Speaker 13: I sat down with the original recording of that show
Speaker 13: of the game and pulled clips with Brent Musburger was
Speaker 13: on the call with Miny Rudolph and Rick Berry. Pulled
Speaker 13: it all together, a mosaic together, and in the final hour,
Speaker 13: this is where we get a little crazy. We recreated
Speaker 13: the ending of the game and we called it the
Speaker 13: time Machine. And so I went to Paul west Fall
Speaker 13: and said, listen, this is what we're.
Speaker 7: Going to do is going to be fun. But how
Speaker 7: would you have tied that game? If you could I will.
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 13: I won't change the ending to you winning it, but
Speaker 13: we're going to just put it into the fourth overtime.
Speaker 13: And in second he's like, okay, well, here's what's going
Speaker 13: to happen. They didn't bound the ball, and then to
Speaker 13: get the ball, steal the ball, probably get it down
Speaker 13: the floor to Curtis Perry. They'll find penalty streaking and
Speaker 13: won't have enough time, but they'll get a bank.
Speaker 7: Shot off and they'll make it. The'll go it four
Speaker 7: oft times.
Speaker 3: Okay. I go to Dick Van Arsdell tell him that.
Speaker 7: Paul says, you're going to make the shot.
Speaker 13: Dick ben Arzel says, well, yeah, but I want to
Speaker 13: make sure it's over gone.
Speaker 3: Nelson, Okay, whatever you want.
Speaker 7: Turned to the corner end of the.
Speaker 13: Story, walked into Al McCoy's office and I said, play
Speaker 13: with me here, Al, this is what we're doing. And
Speaker 13: he had a big gleam in his eye and he's like, okay, okay.
Speaker 13: I said, well, here's the play, and I described the play.
Speaker 13: He took out a piece of paper and he scribbled
Speaker 13: down all the guys that he knew that were on
Speaker 13: the court as the game ended, and he looked at
Speaker 13: me and put his hand over one of his ears
Speaker 13: and took my Marian's tape deck and he said, you're rolling,
Speaker 13: And then he recreated me in the game that is
Speaker 13: on Twitter right now audio. It will curl your toes
Speaker 13: and it's a it's my ode al. It is one
Speaker 13: of the most remarkable things that I've been around in
Speaker 13: my broadcast career. He just he just recreated the ending
Speaker 13: and sent that game into the fourth overtime and he
Speaker 13: did it without blinking his eye.
Speaker 3: It's remarkable.
Speaker 7: So if you have it and you can get to Twitter,
Speaker 7: plug it in and.
Speaker 13: Just give yourself a little radio theater at the theater of
Speaker 13: the mine listening.
Speaker 5: You know, he's part of that that amazing generation of
Speaker 5: broadcasters in the NBA. I guess maybe even Johnny Most
Speaker 5: was even older than them all. But I mean I
Speaker 5: grew up with Bill King and then Chick and al
Speaker 5: that that group. I mean again, they were so influential
Speaker 5: in my thoughts about getting in a broadcast. And I
Speaker 5: grew up literally in the Bay Area with Bill King
Speaker 5: all in the air all the time, doing the Warriors
Speaker 5: and doing the Raiders, and then later doing well he
Speaker 5: did baseball early That's the other thing too about Al
Speaker 5: was that, you know, he was pretty embedded in Phoenix
Speaker 5: a lot long time before the Suns even showed up, right,
Speaker 5: And wasn't he doing gener League Baseball?
Speaker 3: I did an Ashu.
Speaker 7: I think he did the Phoenix Giants in nineteen fifty six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he was.
Speaker 13: One of the original voices of the Phoenix road Runners
Speaker 13: in the late sixties and early seventies. His broadcast partner
Speaker 13: was Hall of Famer Mike Lang. The Hockey Hall of Famer.
Speaker 13: Benny did the Suns. He also did We played this
Speaker 13: last Night on our show here in ninety eight ninety nine.
Speaker 13: He was part of the stable of announcers of the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 13: So when Brenley and Brennman left for network duties, Al
Speaker 13: which filling on the weekends, and he loved it. And
Speaker 13: I worked on a road Runners exhibition game with him
Speaker 13: a thousand years ago against the Kings, and it was
Speaker 13: like it's like he was literally doing hockey.
Speaker 7: His whole life.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 13: It was just that good and a jack of all trades.
Speaker 13: So the Autumn Wind wasn't raidered dame.
Speaker 5: By the way, So so Tug just saw that this
Speaker 5: week they showed it again somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's let's transition. We got to just a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes. So so Lou Lou would have turned
Speaker 2: ninety a couple of days ago. But you, you know,
Speaker 2: have you been alive. You can ask him again to
Speaker 2: get a job. Can you explain? Can you explain? Can
Speaker 2: you explain the job that you tried to get you
Speaker 2: back at the day?
Speaker 13: He uh, when I foolishly quit my job at Canst
Speaker 13: because I thought they were revolved run and all my
Speaker 13: problems and travails and just I just blew it. And
Speaker 13: I went out and loaded cargo planes and emory to
Speaker 13: the split shift at the airport and wore a red
Speaker 13: jumpsuit every day with a reflective device on. Somebody that
Speaker 13: I was working was said, dude, you're not supposed to
Speaker 13: be here.
Speaker 7: And I realized I just destroyed.
Speaker 13: My entire education and everything I can do it with
Speaker 13: basketball and the blessing that Brian Jeffers gave me and
Speaker 13: all of that. And I went back to him and
Speaker 13: I said, can you help me? And it was to
Speaker 13: get an off air job and kat r when the
Speaker 13: Cardinals came out, and unbeknownst to me, he had made
Speaker 13: some calls. I sat with him in his office and
Speaker 13: I had to explain why I did what I did,
Speaker 13: and no one had ever made me do that before, right,
Speaker 13: And he accepted it, and then he said, let's let's
Speaker 13: put this back together again. Long story after that, when
Speaker 13: I got the job, my boss, my new boss, called
Speaker 13: me and so you tell this basketball coaches stopped calling
Speaker 13: got the job. So before I go though, I'm gonna
Speaker 13: just say this, I'm gonna tweet a picture from Todd's
Speaker 13: garage from here at the baseball stadio. Okay, when I
Speaker 13: think of what I think of and I'll get it
Speaker 13: to you guys. The media cover from eighty five eighty
Speaker 13: six where all the coaches are standing there in hard
Speaker 13: hats because he made a promise of hard work and
Speaker 13: a promise of victories and a legacy and he delivered.
Speaker 13: And that feels like a thousand years ago and it
Speaker 13: was forty one years ago, and it.
Speaker 7: Blows my mind.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: No, No, he has some great stories, and he had
Speaker 2: like four different great stories in the book, just so many,
Speaker 2: you know, going to get the job. Originally having to
Speaker 2: talk to Scott Thompson in the flood the loot with
Speaker 2: his job. I mean, come out him saying Todd, you
Speaker 2: should have never left us in the first place. You
Speaker 2: know whatever it was, you know, disappointed in you because
Speaker 2: you left us and you had to explain why and
Speaker 2: all that stuff just good stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, but I.
Speaker 13: Will say, and Dave Silver, I have no problem saying this,
Speaker 13: and I can say it's to you, Steve and Jack
Speaker 13: McGruder and Greg Hanson and Corky Simpson and Tom Doudelson.
Speaker 13: I was in proximity of people that I didn't realize then,
Speaker 13: but I.
Speaker 3: Do knew that I know it now.
Speaker 13: I was watching you guys put out your business and
Speaker 13: how you covered a team, and how you.
Speaker 7: Dealt with players and coaches and moments.
Speaker 3: I watched it all.
Speaker 13: When I give speeches to college students that all want
Speaker 13: my job stupidly and foolishly, I tell them my little secret,
Speaker 13: which is you don't have to just be on camera
Speaker 13: at Cronkite.
Speaker 3: Get a job at the athletic.
Speaker 13: Department, find a team that needs something around this. But
Speaker 13: I would go to every single Littles and press conference
Speaker 13: from day one. I would sit there, eat the lasagna
Speaker 13: that they brought out.
Speaker 7: Yes, but I watched how you did it.
Speaker 13: And I would turn and watch your shows at night,
Speaker 13: would read your bylines, and.
Speaker 3: I am a product of that.
Speaker 13: I just feels like every five years I sent an
Speaker 13: email I cans and thank him for helping pave the way.
Speaker 7: Last night I saw Jack.
Speaker 13: Lacruder, and I I just feel like I was so
Speaker 13: lucky to be around people that were true professionals and
Speaker 13: understood this business because it is not an Instagram account,
Speaker 13: it's not a tech talk account. It is a nuanced
Speaker 13: and very very difficult thing to stay it on the
Speaker 13: right side of the time. And I'm just glad for
Speaker 13: me that it started the two soon with all the
Speaker 13: people and more than I just mentioned.
Speaker 3: Well, thanks great stuff, Tom, Thanks a bunch. Ben.
Speaker 2: We'll look forward to that photo because I know you
Speaker 2: have it somewhere.
Speaker 3: It in a second.
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, thank you man, Good to talk to you,
Speaker 5: good to hear from you, Great to see you.
Speaker 3: Right Okay, tanke care, Thanks, thank you.
Speaker 2: Todd Walsh obviously with MLB a good, great storyteller, right,
Speaker 2: so many, so many great stories in that book with him.
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Speaker 5: A great interview with Todd, a lot of fun, fantastic.
Speaker 5: I mean again, we've known him for a long time
Speaker 5: and it's just been fun to watch his career kind
Speaker 5: of side by side with Tucson and Phoenix.
Speaker 3: And you know.
Speaker 5: It really was sad watching the end of the Coyotes
Speaker 5: because he really was part of that.
Speaker 3: I think I missed his goodbye.
Speaker 5: He did like a I don't know, maybe a five
Speaker 5: minute monologue I would say, where it was just really heartfelt,
Speaker 5: well written and delivered.
Speaker 3: It was this perfect way to kind of wrap things.
Speaker 3: Let's say goodbye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize twenty five years and we've been
Speaker 2: here forever. I know, I have you been here forever?
Speaker 3: Todd?
Speaker 2: He said eighty whatever it was when eighty four, I
Speaker 2: think it was when he first started.
Speaker 5: Do you feel old? He was talking he was talking
Speaker 5: about putting a pick. I remember that picture very well. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Kase Thompson, Ricky bird Song, lutes and they're all wearing
Speaker 5: hard hats. You're going to build the program whatever it was,
Speaker 5: And they did, and they did those crazy media guide
Speaker 5: covers in those years too, which we all used to
Speaker 5: look forward to, sure, sure, and how they were gonna
Speaker 5: be presented.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, those were definitely the good old days.
Speaker 2: People who kind of there's a lot of people who
Speaker 2: are not from here and haven't been here for a
Speaker 2: long time. They come from somewhere else, so they don't
Speaker 2: know what we're talking about, but back and if you're
Speaker 2: an old school dude who kind of listens now, and
Speaker 2: most of them are, they know what those that success
Speaker 2: felt like.
Speaker 5: You know, I've met a lot of people really through
Speaker 5: the years who had been here before that. You know, Oh,
Speaker 5: I've had my tickets at McHale since the seventies, you know,
Speaker 5: before Loude arrived and this and that. So they appreciate it,
Speaker 5: But you're right, there's a lot of people who probably
Speaker 5: half our population was not around.
Speaker 2: No question, and you could tell with football because they're
Speaker 2: not from here. They don't have that heart felt love
Speaker 2: for the team because they're from somewhere else and they
Speaker 2: go to the games because they like football and college
Speaker 2: football whether they're from Wisconsin or Iowa or whatever.
Speaker 5: Well, you're gonna find that in Arizona. I think in
Speaker 5: California too. Like we were talking earlier about these Midwestern
Speaker 5: teams in the Big Twelve that have you know, these
Speaker 5: are life long fans of Kansas State that everybody you
Speaker 5: know from many generations have been going to those games.
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Speaker 5: get a hamburger and a drink. And where was the casino?
Speaker 5: Okay about which part of it it was. It was
Speaker 5: kind of near the lobby of the hotel was in
Speaker 5: the casino really okay, but we used to go out there.
Speaker 5: Maybe in the last five years, maybe they still haven't
Speaker 5: do it anymore, but it was. It was a great deal.
Speaker 2: Oh check, No, they have some good They have Moby's
Speaker 2: and the Mobis we go to all this time. The
Speaker 2: pizza place, I don't know what it's called. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's the rest. They have the u u U
Speaker 2: right because the Strongs used to be there, used to
Speaker 2: be there, ume. And then the steak place, so it's
Speaker 2: a good place. There is a taco place. Uh they
Speaker 2: still have that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a little Mexican food there. Yeah. So
Speaker 3: I used to go get the happy hour out there.
Speaker 2: And I'm playing there. Eat the Uh. The tortilla soup
Speaker 2: is very good, all the all the stuff is pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so the Beigo food too, because you know what
Speaker 2: a Freedo pie is, Yes, you do.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to make those, you did, Okay, So
Speaker 2: you know in Santa Bay, it's like a staple and
Speaker 2: I make him at my place with my chili and
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And there's few people that even know
Speaker 2: about it because you put chili on pie and put tomatoes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're good and they have a good one took. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So that's why I brought it up.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to.
Speaker 5: Come out and visit you guys when you do your
Speaker 5: show out there. Yeah, yeah, because I've not been I've
Speaker 5: been in the sports book a few times, but it's uh,
Speaker 5: I just I'm a chicken when it comes to gambling.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, you're smart. Don't do it.
Speaker 2: I'll tell Jay to tell you how to do it.
Speaker 2: And now that it's god, I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: talking about a whole lot.
Speaker 5: Of it's I mean, that's an interesting business too with
Speaker 5: you know, everything's on an app.
Speaker 3: Now, sure, but you can't use an app. I guess
Speaker 3: when you're in there, right, they have it. They have it.
Speaker 2: There's a what do you call the fencing, they're fenced out. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you can't use it because they want you to
Speaker 2: use them, but pretty much you could. You could go
Speaker 2: anywhere and start doing that stuff, you know, horse racing
Speaker 2: or you know fan duel, draft kings or MGM or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. You know, before you couldn't do it at all.
Speaker 2: Now you can do it anywhere. Yep, most anywhere, because
Speaker 2: some states do. You can do it in California. You
Speaker 2: still can't do it. Correct, you still can't do it.
Speaker 2: The one that's amazing to me is the pitch speed
Speaker 2: in a baseball game.
Speaker 5: You can bet on the speed of the and it's
Speaker 5: a bit hard to do it on TV because it's
Speaker 5: a delay. Oh yeah yeah, so when you're watching your phone,
Speaker 5: it's not syncs up with the game. But so I've
Speaker 5: been to a few games, like in the summer, it's like,
Speaker 5: oh wow. I mean you can literally bet on every pit.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Like they say with the gamblers, I'm going to bet
Speaker 2: on that cockroach, meaning to the roof.
Speaker 3: You know, you can bet on anything. It's just crazy.
Speaker 3: Don't do it.
Speaker 2: Don't do it, uh, Dave, you're thinking about maybe being
Speaker 2: with me every now and again.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the pay is so good anytime. No,
Speaker 3: you don't.
Speaker 5: You don't worry about payday. I don't worry about pay.
Speaker 5: This is really fun, Honestly, I appreciate the chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 2: In fact, last time you came on and it was
Speaker 2: like days back.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Did you see some of those posts? There's a
Speaker 3: days back because you posted something I'm gonna be doing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's nice. Yeah, you're found your back in your niche.
Speaker 3: So we'll see, we'll see what you wonder if anybody
Speaker 3: even remembers.
Speaker 2: Well again again, you've been gone so long. It's like me,
Speaker 2: uh and my name was what it was back when
Speaker 2: I did my the the newspapers, right, because I cover
Speaker 2: the team, and when you're visible like that, A lot of.
Speaker 3: People today, who what'd you do? How long you've been gone?
Speaker 3: Where do you been? I get that all the time.
Speaker 3: It's been like ten years? Right?
Speaker 5: How often you watch right and you have directed ozeable
Speaker 5: face up saying yeah, when did you do your last show?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But sometimes it's good because you can walk in
Speaker 2: the mall and nobody knows who cares who?
Speaker 5: Yeah for you anyway for you on my glasses in baseball,
Speaker 5: had nobody had clues to who I was?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: For me when you're in the newspaper business, right, I'm
Speaker 5: just another dude, which is fine.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, I had my my mullet, well
Speaker 2: my bullet, you know, and now I don't.
Speaker 3: Who are you? Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm okay
Speaker 3: with that. What else? Anything else? Were about about three?
Speaker 3: Four minutes? Right? Four minutes?
Speaker 2: Okay, we got anybody wants called, we can we have
Speaker 2: a time five to two oh four one six seventy
Speaker 2: four four. You can feel free to call in. We
Speaker 2: haven't heard anybody today or from anybody today.
Speaker 5: Looking forward to football this week, I guess with the
Speaker 5: Cats having a week off and see if they can
Speaker 5: kind of recover, rebound or whatever the word is.
Speaker 2: The only thing that can't happen is they can get
Speaker 2: blown out. They can't look like they did two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: where it's oh, we're here and then we can go home.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't remember, and I was gonna ask, oh,
Speaker 2: your toughest game. I still trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you. But you went to games
Speaker 2: periodically probably one of the games that you hated to
Speaker 2: be at, and that's a tough one.
Speaker 5: But that's not that's a big result, because it's just
Speaker 5: just you knew that it was gonna be tough, boy,
Speaker 5: because there are some of those you knew Loot would.
Speaker 3: Come out and be po or whatever. The football I'm
Speaker 3: showing nack of its time.
Speaker 5: I remember, you know, for some reason. It was kind
Speaker 5: of late in his career. Was when we played North Caro.
Speaker 5: Whenever I was gonna play North Carolina, that was bad.
Speaker 5: And that was when I were destroyed. And that's so
Speaker 5: funny because that was one of the last games, one
Speaker 5: of the last games of his career, was it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was. What was that postgame situation like, oh, I
Speaker 5: don't remember, I don't you know.
Speaker 3: I just remember they got their butt kicks.
Speaker 5: I was covering Marcus Williams, Marcus william It was twenty fifteen, sixteen, So.
Speaker 3: I just weren't many of those. There were very, very
Speaker 3: very few. I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I can take a hand the Utah
Speaker 2: game in the tournament, yep ninety eight get their ass kicked,
Speaker 2: and who thought that was going to happen? LSU up
Speaker 2: in LSU Stroll, Miles Swift and Jabari Smith kicked the
Speaker 2: crap out of Arizona.
Speaker 3: That was the game.
Speaker 2: I think that Ricky Anderson didn't play because he had
Speaker 2: done something violation wise. The there's been a few the
Speaker 2: North Carolina game, and that was if you if you
Speaker 2: were there. Yeah, the tickets were going for unbelievable prices
Speaker 2: and Arizona didn't play.
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny. Here's my one little anecdote I
Speaker 5: remember about that. For some reason, Larry Fitzgerald of the
Speaker 5: Cardinals was in Tucson that weekend doing some kind of
Speaker 5: a promotion.
Speaker 3: North Carolina game. Yeah, okay, for some cell phone company
Speaker 3: or something like that.
Speaker 5: We went to interview him. He asked me for tickets,
Speaker 5: like Larry, I don't think so, Like Larry, you can't.
Speaker 5: And I think he was there because he did come
Speaker 5: to some games eventually. Sure, Barkley was at a few games.
Speaker 5: Barkley was a few games. Don't you remember Donald Trump
Speaker 5: going to a game? I do remember that, like the
Speaker 5: early nineties. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't remember who he was with, but he was
Speaker 2: leaving early and everybody like Donald.
Speaker 5: Trump, I know who he was with and we'll talk
Speaker 5: about that like, oh do you yeah, a female Marlon Maples?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, he was married then, but he had
Speaker 5: some friends in town. No, he was with him with her.
Speaker 5: He had to be because it was like early nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I yah, you can tell me off there because
Speaker 2: I have another story too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the days.
Speaker 2: I mean Barkley was here now and again obviously the
Speaker 2: former players would come in. You remember when Senator from
Speaker 2: Kansas what was his name, Bob Dole? Bob Dole was here.
Speaker 2: He was Bob Dole was here. I remember I tried
Speaker 2: to put him in my lead.
Speaker 5: Were we playing Kansas? No, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I don't think so. It could have been, but I
Speaker 5: don't think so. Huh.
Speaker 3: I remember putting it in my story A game so big.
Speaker 2: Bob Dole is here. Wow, you know, it's it's been fun.
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Uh. Now it's near the end, but it's fun. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which is good. Let us be an end somewhere. It'll continue.
Speaker 2: But you know what, the profession has changed so much
Speaker 2: that we talked about the restrictions or the you know,
Speaker 2: limitations or the breaking news. You don't get that very
Speaker 2: often they kind of break their own news and and
Speaker 2: and and now they tell you, well, you didn't go
Speaker 2: through the proper channels. You can still yeah, let me
Speaker 2: say you can still do it. People are kind of
Speaker 2: afraid to do it for whatever reason.
Speaker 5: I mean, you look at the stuff on on on
Speaker 5: Twitter and on threads and those instagrams. It's like no
Speaker 5: one's regulating that. They just put out stuff and they
Speaker 5: you know, if they have the story, if they have something,
Speaker 5: that's just the way.
Speaker 2: It works, right, Right, We'll look at the story now
Speaker 2: with the with the running back from New Mexico. Right,
Speaker 2: I guarantee you a lot of people know about it,
Speaker 2: and I haven't reported it. Yeah, you know, they're just
Speaker 2: waiting it out to see what happens. At some point
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to say he's not going to be available, yeah,
Speaker 2: because why he's not available?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah.
Speaker 5: But it was interesting too, and you saw it how
Speaker 5: it's almost like there was like a line in the
Speaker 5: sand where all of a sudden, the schools started to
Speaker 5: control their messaging.
Speaker 2: Here here it came with Greg Burns team because I
Speaker 2: was still kind of in the picture doing that, and
Speaker 2: then Sean Sean kind of made it even more difficult
Speaker 2: because he would bring this a couple of players in
Speaker 2: and Sean didn't like the media anyway, but Greg kind
Speaker 2: of made it more corporate.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and you were still I was still I
Speaker 5: was still playing that, but it was it was difficult
Speaker 5: all of a sudden. You go from you know, having
Speaker 5: full access to players, you know, on a Tuesday, and
Speaker 5: then nothing.
Speaker 2: And I talk about this often because I think that
Speaker 2: Loot let his guys grow up and talking to the media,
Speaker 2: seeing how it was like, whether he liked it or not.
Speaker 2: But that's why you have so many guys doing radio
Speaker 2: and TV exactly. They know how to do it and
Speaker 2: talk and you know.
Speaker 5: They were good from the moment they came to campus exactly,
Speaker 5: let's go, we gotta go.
Speaker 3: Thanks to Dave very much. Sure, thank you, y.
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