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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right

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podcast where we talk to our friend and sponsor of

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the shows, Act Abraham from Bulwart Capital Management. Today or

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I think today, maybe within the last couple days. Anyway,

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Matt Walsh posted a headline from money Wise which has

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got a lot of people conversing, and so we're going

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to do the same thing. So the headline reads, millions

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of US boomers are refusing to give their eighty four

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trillion dollar in real estate wealth away to their adult kids.

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Here's why and what it means for the economy. And

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apparently part of the why at least is that forty

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five percent of those baby boomers say I want to

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enjoy my money for myself while I'm still alive. And

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Matt Walsh has a huge problem with this because he

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believes that the entire point of wealth is to take

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care of your kids.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts. I tell Matt Walsh that be

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my guest, Go use your money, take care of your kids, right,

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you know, free markets, making your own decision. I mean,

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he doesn't sound that much different than a socialist, honestly.

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Speaker 3: Right, I agree?

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Speaker 1: No, just look telling people what to do though.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, well, from from his from his perch of

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moral superiority as well. Right, because he's the only one

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that's got it all figured out. I would just say, look,

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generally speaking, I kind of like, you know, I think

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about my money the way I do my body gets

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your hands off it, right, Why are you telling me

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how to spend my money or what the moral you know,

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organization of my fund? Like, I, okay, you do it

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that way. I don't care, you know that? Being said?

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That being said, would I handle it exactly that way?

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Probably my job is not to I want to put

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my children in a position to where they are not disadvantaged,

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you know what I'm saying. Yet I do not believe

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it's a moral imperative for them to live the same

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lifestyle that me and their mother did. Why me and

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my mother made choices that they might not make, right, Like,

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I'll look at them and go, hey, did you work

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sixty to seventy hours a week building something that you

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didn't know was going to turn into anything and invest

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every single cent of your life on it. Well, if

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you didn't do that, then you probably don't deserve to

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live that lifestyle. So if you did, I have zero

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interest in helping you finance something you didn't earn, right,

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So I think that there's I think this gets back

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to this whole baby boomer discussion that's become really popular,

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you know what I mean, like blaming the baby boomers

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for all the financial ills. And I think I think

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that there is like most things in our culture today,

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I think that that conversation, I think there's some merit

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to it, and I think that there's some I think

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there's some some meat there. I just think everybody's expressing

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it in the wrong terms. Meaning, look, by boomers were

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the largest generation of all time, coming you know, and

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not even close, right, and so and coming of age

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in the dawn of the technological age, where so many

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different things were changing, and therefore so many of our practices,

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so many of our institutions, and so many of our

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laws ended up reflecting the interests of a generation. But

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that was going to happen regardless of who that generation was, right,

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And it's a byproduct of living in a democracy, meaning whoever,

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like wait, maybe they were going to be super conservative,

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maybe they were going to be super liberal. Maybe whatever,

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whoever baby boomers were, they were going to have an

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amount of like un previously seen or experienced sway for

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one generation in the democratic process because there were so

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many of them, right, So, if you wanted to win

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an election for the last thirty years, you had to

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throw things out that were beneficial to the boomers. And

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like most generations, and a lot of the boomers didn't.

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But a lot of people vote for things that are

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immediately expedient to them, right, and so of course, so

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I kind of feel like the people having the critiques

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of boomers. I mean it's fair, right because, like, look

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at what's happened in national debt as the boomers have

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taken over, you know, control the economy. Again, I think

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whoever did that would have seen an explosion in national

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debt regardless, right, So anyway, but I think it's a

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classic case of one of the things that you can't.

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I think one of the things that frustrates me the

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most about our country today and the most about so

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many of these political debates, is that nobody believes two

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things can be true at the same time. Right, Like,

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it's do you think the boomers suck? Or are they

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the best people that ever walked to face the earth?

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And you're like, well, like most generations I think it's

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probably a mix. Right, so you know, oh, yes, this

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one evil generation. Oh oh I didn't really great, My god,

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the aliens care yeah yeah, they were like enough for

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that guy. So you know, even the computers like get

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him out of here. Right. But but and I just

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I think it's so bizarre when you start telling people

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what is like, I want to look at Matt Walsh

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and go, So you think it's your job to feather

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your kids nests and give them wealth that they didn't earn.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's I think you brought up an

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interesting concept. You said, it's kind of like being a socialist.

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And when you talk to socialists if they say they

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should tax the rich, but they need to be taxed

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more bluff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what's the figure?

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Speaker 3: So like, can you give me an actual monetary figure

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of what that means to you to tax the rich

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because it's never freaking enough. So seeing, I think the

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same concept applies here because Matt has pissed that. You know,

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I guess boomers aren't taking care of their kids, but

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they're enjoying their wealth that they earned themselves for themselves,

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and so he's like they need to like, hey, they're

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a fair share? Well, what is that fair share? Is

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it buying your kids a house? Is it buying cars?

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Is it paying for education? Is it?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 3: Or is it literally giving them a salary every month

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to live on? I need to understand because I don't

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because to me, it's like where does where does it end?

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Like what's the line? Because I think that people, at

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least nowadays, young people are looking at a lotti and

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not all of them. Some young people look at boomers

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and they think they need to give me, like they're

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so selfish. They should be giving me x y Z. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Why well why do tell you that? Yeah? Yeah, they

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should be. They should be giving me wealth. And I

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just here's the other problem with what Matt Walsh is saying.

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The numbers disagree with what he's saying, meaning boomers are

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financing their children to a level that no other generation has.

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That's just a fact. So when you look at what

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the average boomer is helping out kids, the number of

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them that are helping out their kids, it's higher across

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the board, it's higher across the board. And you can

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actually make an argument. Now, I look again, I don't

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want to get involved in telling people how to spend

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their money, regardless of what side it's on. But you

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could make an argument that giving away kids money is

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actually making things less affordable. Right, kids are having money

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to spend on houses and things that the otherwise wouldn't have,

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you know so, And that's why these conversations I hate them.

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Whenever we're trying to find and you see this happen

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all the time, and it makes sense because of the

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way people's brains work. But they see things that aren't working,

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and it's like we're looking for the silver bullet, right,

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who's to blame? Who's the bad guy? And they're like, guys,

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go study history. What you'll see is it's never one thing, right,

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It's a things come together that create cocktails, and different

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currents come at different times in history and create unique happenings.

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And we've got to deal with those things. And the

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other thing is the world isn't static, right, We're going

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to have new issues and new things to overcome, and

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this is certainly one of them. But I don't think

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advocating for like we I will my wife and I

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God willing, will we help our kids out? Well? If

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we yes, if we need to, we will certainly help

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them out, Like, if they're making the right decisions and

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housing is really unaffordable, will I help them purchase a home? Yeah,

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I can definitely see myself doing that. My wife and

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I have discussed it. But not because they deserve a home.

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I don't believe in that. I think everybody deserves their

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own home. Nonsense.

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Speaker 3: And hopefully your kids and hopefully your kids aren't like, oh,

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mom and dad are going to buy me home so

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I don't have to work.

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Speaker 2: As hard too. Like that.

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Speaker 3: That's where I've because I grew up with a lot

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of kids who were trust friend kids and like had

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a lot of their parents are wealthy, and they you know,

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they gave them stuff. And I got to tell you,

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those those people are losers now.

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Speaker 2: I know, and I want I want my children to

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have the I want them to experience the thrill in

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the excitement of achievement totally. It's not the stuff. That's

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the other thing we live in this today that tells us, yes,

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the stuff is what the benefit is and it's you know,

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it sounds so corny, and it sounds easy for a

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guy like me that can buy a lot of that stuff.

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It sounds easy for me to say it but it

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really is the truth. Man. You look back and the

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work and the striving and the scary times and the

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nights without sleep, and you, in a weird way, the

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journey really is the gift itself and you and the

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freedom it provides you that is to be cherished the

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stuff you get with it. You know, you talk to

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anybody that's had any serious level of success that you

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know gets to a financial place where they're capable of

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buying more than they need and unless there's really unless

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they're kind of bent or something's wrong with them, you know.

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I universally they all look at you and go, look,

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it's wonderful to have more than you need. At the

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same time, I don't buy nearly as much as that

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stuff because it's just not as fulfilling as I would

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have thought it would be, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I always get irritated when I see like people

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or this is such a flex for parents when they

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get on social media and you're like, we just bought

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Sally a brand new BMW for her sixteenth birthday, and

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it's like, Sally's not gonna want to work for anything

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if she has I don't have a brand new bm

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that is just such a silly thing to do. Like

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that's wonderful that you have lots of money, but it's

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not a flex to give your sixteen year old car

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that you see what I'm saying, Like.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, but it usually means they've got lots of payments,

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is what it usually dost a lot of money, right.

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Speaker 3: But that's the thing is like, didn't you when you

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were a kid and you were working, because I know

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you're an entrepreneur, like we're entrepreneurs. It's one of those

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things where you get to like you want to work

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for things. So when you finally get that thing. If

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somebody would have handed me a brand new something when

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I was sixteen, I would have not understood the value

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of it. You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's not, of course not. I mean, we we just

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got my daughter, what is it, like a twenty twenty

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one first cards and it's way nicer than anything I had.

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Speaker 3: But it's right, yeah, that's how we feel.

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Speaker 2: Her with like fifty thousand miles on its super sick

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well and she's gonna be able to drive it forever,

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four wheel drive, all that kind of stuff. But even that.

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I mean, first of all, they ain't as cheap as

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they used to be. The thing is, no, but me

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and me and me and my wife were having a conversation. Look,

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she's my baby girl. When she's I want her to

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be in something safe, something that's reliable, all that kind

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of stuff. But I also don't want it so nice

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to wear. It's her first luxury car, right like, I

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want it to be something where, like you know, it's

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a significant step below me and mom's car, and it

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gives her something still to reach for. Because we've seen

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some of these friends where the kids are driving around

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in brand new, hundred thousand dollars cars. Yeah, yeah, right,

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of those kids. Because for me, when I see that,

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all I see and I'm not trying to step on

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any toes out here, all I'm not. That's not about

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the kid at that point. That's about the parent wanting

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totally totally right, and they're using the kid as like

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a coat hangar to display their robes, you know, or whatever.

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of blanket statements that it's pure selfishness, and I think

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a lot of I would I would think that there

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are baby boomers out there who are hoarding their wealth

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point where they're going to need care that they don't

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want to be burdened onto their children. And so I

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feel like, you know, I don't know what the I

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haven't read the whole article that he posted, but I

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feel like there's more to it than just people being

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like I want to buy like a brand new boat

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every year.

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Speaker 2: I think it's about that. That's a great point. It's

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Speaker 3: That when you're in your thirties, you know you're right

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and you've never been faced. Listen, hit fifty and like

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get out of bed and have an ailments because you've

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had a sleep related injury. You start realizing your body

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falling apart. And that is such a great point that

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Speaker 1: Long term care it's like what ten to fifteen thousand

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dollars a month, it's excel. If you're affarding your money

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because you worry that you might be living into your

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nineties and you don't want to move in with one

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of your kids because that would be like a huge

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burden on them. I mean, I don't blame a single

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person for saving for that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you say that, because one of the things

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that I counsel all of our clients on is I go, guys,

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it's like Maslow's hierarchy of needs, meaning when we're planning

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for retirement, we must take care of Your first job

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in retirement is to make sure that we can pay

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your lifestyle so you're not a burden to your children. Yeah,

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that's the first thing that we throw on, right, and

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then we work down from there. If we want to

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get into legacy planning, all of that comes after those

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things are covered, right, right, And I remind them of

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that all the time, because I'm like, listen, five years

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from now, if we do things this way, your financial

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picture could be substantially different to where we can do

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all the above. Okay, but if we go down this

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path right now, we're seriously risking the chance that none

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of it will be accomplished. Right. Not only will you

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not be able to give any money to the kids,

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but you won't be able to pay your own lifestyle. Yeah. Right,

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So let's let's not play the game of financial Well,

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let's play the game of good financial dominoes, meaning we

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can do this, you know, but as the money allows.

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And let's not make one off emotional decisions, and let's

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not listen to people telling us what their moral superior

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belief is on how we should handle our wealth. The

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other thing too, I'll just tell you I'm a big

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I'm a big believer in you know, setting some money

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aside so the kids. I love the Warren Buffett adage

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where he said I want to leave my kids enough

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money to where they can do something cool with it.

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I don't want to leave them enough to where they

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they don't have to do anything. Yes, right, exactly right,

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you know, will help you do this if you're making

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the right decisions. But you know, our plan, I'll just

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our plan is to have some of those provisions for

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our kids. And like I said, God willing, because I'm

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only forty four, who knows what work you know, the

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world will look like thirty five years from now or whatever.

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But but our plan is to sit there and go, hey,

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we'll give you each this, but the majority of it's

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going to go away to charities and in different places

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like that, because my job, your job is not to

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sit on a beach and live a life of luxury

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based on what I.

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Speaker 3: Did right, exactly right, And that is I think that

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is the big point here, That is the big thing away.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think that. Yeah, yeah, I don't think

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it's good. I don't think it's I don't I think

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it's good for anybody to enjoy the fruits or the

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late or the fruit of somebody something they did not

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labor for.

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Speaker 3: It's disincentivizing all that obviously needs you as a financial planner.

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Speaker 2: So does everybody? Look? Everybody? Look look at that.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't even trying to transition.

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Speaker 2: I honestly think you should actually call you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I did, so good?

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Speaker 2: Well, Matt, he's out there. The problem is that Matt

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kind of struck me as a guy that would call

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me and try to explain to me why I was

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run to Would you know what I mean? I'm not

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calling for your help. I'm going to call it square.

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Your way can tell you what to do exactly.

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Speaker 1: So where can people find you?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, so yeah, it's super easy. You can listen

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to our podcasts every single day. We readdress everything that

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