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<v Speaker 1>All right, show rolling along.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not football season, but it's never a bad

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<v Speaker 2>time to talk football because spring football for the utes

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<v Speaker 2>right around the corner. The headball coach himself, Kyle Whittingham,

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<v Speaker 2>on a Wednesday afternoon, Coach, Wait, how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Sar doing well? Spencer? How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing really well.

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<v Speaker 2>I always appreciate your time, So just kind of take us

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes a little bit. What's this time of year? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the boxes you're trying to check prior to

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of spring ball here in just a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, last couple of months, we've been in what we

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<v Speaker 3>call winter player development. It's primarily in the weight room,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, getting bigger, faster and stronger, and then on

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<v Speaker 3>the field doing agility work and that type of thing

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<v Speaker 3>and mixed in with some football walkthroughs at the NC

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<v Speaker 3>two allows you to do. So that's that's been since

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<v Speaker 3>they got back in early January for school up until

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<v Speaker 3>next week when we go into spring break. That will

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<v Speaker 3>put an end to that. Then when we get back

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<v Speaker 3>from spring break, we have a couple of days of

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<v Speaker 3>review and then we start springballing the twentieth of March.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's no secret, Coach that you guys have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of roster change over, and even when you

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<v Speaker 2>have good years, now you're gonna have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>roster change over because of the nature of the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>How's the process been to get the new coaches up

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<v Speaker 2>to speed with what you want them to do and

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<v Speaker 2>get the new players to understand as you always say,

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<v Speaker 2>mentally they need to understand what you're asking them to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and physically they need to be capable of doing those things.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the process like integrating the new pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, relatively speaking to where we are in relative

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<v Speaker 3>to the time of year, I think we're right on track.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got the offense essentially put in and now it's

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<v Speaker 3>just reviewing it and making sure we get as much

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to expose them to it as possible. It's been

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<v Speaker 3>a very good transition with the new coaches. We have

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<v Speaker 3>three new coaches on the offensive side, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>with coach Beck and his new scheme that he's brought in,

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<v Speaker 3>the players have really embraced that defensively. Pretty much business

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<v Speaker 3>as usual, you know, no change over there. The scheme

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<v Speaker 3>has remained the same for for years and years. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, in as far as the basics, we

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<v Speaker 3>tweak a little bit here and there, but but I

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<v Speaker 3>think based on you know, where we are early March

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<v Speaker 3>as a team right now, we're in good shape.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had we had Jason Beck on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It was funny get to know him not too long ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I asked him the question, Kyle point blank, is

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<v Speaker 2>Devin Dampierre your starting quarterback? And he said he is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will take the opportunity to ask you. For

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<v Speaker 2>a fan base that's always wondering, he's gonna be starting

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<v Speaker 2>to understand the plan moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Devin right, Devin damp Pier under center?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if we played today, he would be the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's obviously got a great grasp of the offense

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<v Speaker 3>having been in it in years past, and so it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's nothing new to him. He's like having another coach

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<v Speaker 3>on the field right now. He's he's just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>completely versed in what we're doing. And and so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's doing a great job. Isaac Wilson is really entrenched

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<v Speaker 3>right now. Is number two. Now, that's not the same,

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<v Speaker 3>that can't change because everything's a competition. But Isaac has

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<v Speaker 3>done a nice job assimilating the new offense as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's interesting, Kyle, I'm sure you know this.

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<v Speaker 2>More than a dozen teams have straight up canceled their

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<v Speaker 2>spring game. The latest to do it, Oklahoma is changing.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just kind of there the way they go about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But USC, Alabama, Ohio, State, Texas, Nebraska as well, they've

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<v Speaker 2>just punted on spring games. Is that anything you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have discussed up there as far as what to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the spring game.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and that's still a discussion. And right now as

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<v Speaker 3>we speak, a spring game in its format that our

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<v Speaker 3>fans and players are used to through the years is

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<v Speaker 3>still in place. That could be subject to change based

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<v Speaker 3>on how things go through spring. You know, if we

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<v Speaker 3>get thin at certain positions or you know, there's things

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<v Speaker 3>that can change that. And so at the moment, spring

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<v Speaker 3>game is a go. But I'm not going to rule

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<v Speaker 3>it out just you know, circumstantially down the road, depending

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<v Speaker 3>on what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, And look, I wouldn't blame I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>see it go away because ultimately all of us just

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the spring celebration of your program and covering the

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<v Speaker 2>game and just kind of being together and talking football

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<v Speaker 2>is the fun thing we get to do as far

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<v Speaker 2>as my little spot in this ecosystem. But I completely

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<v Speaker 2>understand it, Kyle, because the roster limit changes things, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean one oh five on game day and at

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<v Speaker 2>last count you had one oh nine that might be

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<v Speaker 2>up to as of now. So is the new roster

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<v Speaker 2>limit something that you have to keep in mind? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you always have to keep player safety in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>In the past couple of years, you guys have just

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<v Speaker 2>been riddled with bad luck and bad injuries. How does

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<v Speaker 2>the new roster limit change? It feels like walk Ons

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<v Speaker 2>are going away, right, You're going to get scholarships for

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<v Speaker 2>all your players, But how does the new roster limit

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<v Speaker 2>change the way you have to approach your job.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a big impact in the roster limit. As

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<v Speaker 3>of now, nothing is said completely in stone, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>looking like the roster limit will need to be adhered

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<v Speaker 3>to by your first content, which would be August thirtieth

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<v Speaker 3>for US, the UCLA game, and so we would be

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<v Speaker 3>able to train more than the one oh five during

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<v Speaker 3>summer summer conditioning and then during fall camp. But then

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be at one oh five. So essentially

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to have to make some cuts after fall

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<v Speaker 3>camp to get to that one oh five number, because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know anyone that's going to go into fall

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<v Speaker 3>camp with one oh five because if you get guys

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<v Speaker 3>injured and you don't have guys in the bullpen, so

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<v Speaker 3>to speak, you know you're not going to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to be at one oh five healthy bodies. And so

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<v Speaker 3>most teams, I believe, will go into fall camp with

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty five guys,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when you get to that first game, there'll

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<v Speaker 3>be you know, a certain amount that have weeded themselves

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<v Speaker 3>out due to season ending injuries, and hopefully not not many,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's it's it's you know, bound to happen to

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<v Speaker 3>some teams, and then you just choose your your best

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<v Speaker 3>one oh five at that point, and unfortunately, there's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be some guys that worked hard through camp that

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<v Speaker 3>that just aren't going to have that opportunity. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>how you have to do it, because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>if you start at one oh five, I've you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just through attrition, you're gonna you're gonna fall below that,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know that's already a razor thin number to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to operate. So so to me, that's how

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<v Speaker 3>most teams are going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>About it well.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Kyle, if you're able to win the

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<v Speaker 2>conference and make make it to the postseason and be

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<v Speaker 2>a playoff team, you could play seventeen or eighteen games,

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<v Speaker 2>and without the ability to add two during the season,

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<v Speaker 2>that feels like a small group. I know listeners are

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<v Speaker 2>probably think one hundred and five, that's plenty of players.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is not a contact sport, coach, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a violent sport, and every week you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>lose guys, and so without the ability to add two

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<v Speaker 2>during the season, does one o five feel a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit low to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Very much so? And it was, you know, our understanding

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<v Speaker 3>initially was that you had the one oh five, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the first game, and then if you had season ending injuries,

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<v Speaker 3>you could replace those guys. Now they're saying, no, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be the case. And so that one

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<v Speaker 3>oh five can get you know, into the high to

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<v Speaker 3>mid nineties real quick. And you know, college football we

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<v Speaker 3>have you know, pretty much everybody operates with the scout

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<v Speaker 3>teams that you know give the look, you know, your

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<v Speaker 3>scout defense gives the offensive look and vice versa. And

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<v Speaker 3>so as you start to creep those numbers down, you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have to think about more of an NFL model

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<v Speaker 3>where it's self serve, where the offense services of the

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<v Speaker 3>defense and vice versa, rather than having the full on

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<v Speaker 3>scout teams.

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<v Speaker 2>How has the new model changed your job day to day?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was thinking about this. You know, you obviously

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<v Speaker 2>have Robert Bleckin as your general manager. Is there a

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<v Speaker 2>portion of this coach that is taken a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>off your plate because you have to have other people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, more of a pro model with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that are in charge of the finances, guys

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<v Speaker 2>that are in charge of recruiting. You've always had recruiting coordinators.

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<v Speaker 2>But does hiring a guy like Robert as your GM

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<v Speaker 2>and the infrastructure you have in place, does it actually

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<v Speaker 2>allow you to maybe focus more on coaching than you know,

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<v Speaker 2>having to be in charge of literally every piece of

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<v Speaker 2>information and every piece of logistics when it comes to Utah.

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<v Speaker 3>Football, it's helped the assistant coaches stay out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>They've stay out at the business end, and they've they

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<v Speaker 3>just focus on making each guy in their room better.

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<v Speaker 3>And in coaching them up and getting them ready for

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<v Speaker 3>the season. I still have my hand in everything, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's not going to change them. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>any head coach in the country that's at least right

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<v Speaker 3>now going to completely turn over personnel to And this

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<v Speaker 3>again at the collegiate level. Pro level is a whole

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<v Speaker 3>different deal, and you have those full blown personnel departments.

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<v Speaker 3>We're still building that. You know, we don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a quite demand power yet that we would

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<v Speaker 3>need to be able to do that. But as the

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<v Speaker 3>head coach in college, you're going to find most of us,

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<v Speaker 3>most of the head coaches completely involved in personnel decisions

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<v Speaker 3>and making sure they're monitoring what's going on on that

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<v Speaker 3>side of the ball as well as the pure football

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<v Speaker 3>end of it. But again for assistant coaches, we try

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<v Speaker 3>to keep them completely out of the business end and

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<v Speaker 3>just in the football end.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, how are you, as a delegator coach getting better?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? It's been a process, yeah, and twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>years into it now, I guess I've learned a few

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<v Speaker 3>things in that regard and I'm more you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>letting a few things go, not letting them go. But

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<v Speaker 3>turning them over to other people and just being able

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<v Speaker 3>to trust them and make sure, you know, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>good about that it's going to get done. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's been something that you know, I have gotten better

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<v Speaker 3>and I still could probably do a better job of it,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, just I am who I am, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say I've made improvement in that area.

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<v Speaker 2>Catching up with coach with headball coach Utah football a

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<v Speaker 2>couple weeks away from Utah springball, you reference UCLA opening game.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't been able to tick the tires with you on

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule since I came out. But my main question

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<v Speaker 2>is October eighteenth, Saturday at BUYU. I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, coach, I feel like that should be during

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<v Speaker 2>rivalry week. I like it either beginning or the end,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's smack dab in the middle of October. What

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteenth, Well, it wasn't the first thing I looked at.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you that it's obviously that we take

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<v Speaker 3>last year, but there's no shortest of personnel down there,

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<v Speaker 3>I can promise you that. And so they'll be athletic,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll be fast, they'll be well coached, and so it'd

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<v Speaker 3>we got to be turning all our attention, all our

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all our focus on that obviously. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>would seem to make sense that would be put at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the season. But so far the Big

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<v Speaker 3>twelve has not got to that point yet. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>haven't had discussion with him and say, you know why,

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<v Speaker 3>But right now that's something that they have not implemented.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if this moves the needle for you at all,

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously the leaders of the SEC and the Big

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<v Speaker 1>And there it seems like they're kind of calling the shots.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to expand the CFP with more aqs for

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<v Speaker 2>their conferences, and obviously, and you've been front facing and

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<v Speaker 2>honest about this if you are not part of that

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<v Speaker 2>lunch table, you and you're in a safe landing spot

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<v Speaker 2>at and P four conference. But is there any concern

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<v Speaker 2>as a member of the Big twelve what the Big

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<v Speaker 2>ten and the SEC seem to continue to try to

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know if concerns the right word, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think that we don't have much say. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're the they're the power brokers, and that's just

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that call most of the shots, don't. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see any other way around that. I would personally

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<v Speaker 3>like it to get to sixteen teams as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>full bown playoff. And I've been saying that they will

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<v Speaker 3>get there eventually for a lot of years and people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not going to be you know, for several years.

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<v Speaker 3>But here here we're looking at going from twelve to

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<v Speaker 3>But answer your question, I mean, they're they're the guys

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<v Speaker 3>that have the most clout, have the most say, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's just you know, at least at the present and

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<v Speaker 3>during the present time, in this present setup, that is

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<v Speaker 1>All right, coach, before I say you loose, I just

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I didn't cover the story of whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not you would come back very much because in my mind, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a coach that's under contract.

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<v Speaker 1>He simply could just continue to coach. It's his job.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was a release that was made indicating that

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<v Speaker 2>you were coming back. So I just for our listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they would be very curious to know what

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<v Speaker 2>you juggled after the season, what you kind of processed,

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<v Speaker 2>what you went through before landing on Yes, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to keep doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you juggle everything in your process everything, and so

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's not any one thing. I can tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the overriding factors, and one of the more

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<v Speaker 3>factors that was way more heavily was you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>disappointing season that we had in the way that things

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<v Speaker 3>unfolded and get into our fifth QB and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, it was just very frustrating. But but again,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody feels sorry for us. I'm not trying to to uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, create create sympathy or anything like that. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just as frustrating as things were. It you know,

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<v Speaker 3>would have left a bad taste in my mouth to

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<v Speaker 3>have that be the you know, the final goal around

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<v Speaker 3>and so that that was a big factor. But again

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<v Speaker 3>everything was involved my energy levels. Uh, you know, what's

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<v Speaker 3>best for the program and that that ultimately is the

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<v Speaker 3>most important thing, is what's best for the program going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, that's uh, you know, that was a big

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<v Speaker 2>Decision swinging a golf club at all. Say that again,

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<v Speaker 2>you're swinging a golf club at all yet? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>just waiting for the weather?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, not yet, and that'll that'll come after spring ball.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, through through the end of spring ball,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all football.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, my friend, Well, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>the time. As always, it's always a pleasure. Best of

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<v Speaker 2>luck and hopefully we can do it again soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Spencer, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>There is coach wait, head coach of the Utah football program.

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<v Speaker 2>We are just a couple of weeks away from spring ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting stuff there, as Kyle, you know, he he indicated

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<v Speaker 2>that the conversations going on around Utah right now do

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<v Speaker 2>include potentially shifting away from the what Utah calls the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two Forever Game, the spring game. I've always enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>the spring game. I've always enjoyed spring football. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>from a content creation standpoint. When you're covering the team

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<v Speaker 2>as a sports soccer radio host, you always just want

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<v Speaker 2>things to talk about. But Oklahoma became the latest team

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<v Speaker 2>to adjust their spring football kind of ethos. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a spring football event, but it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a game. As of now, USC Alabama, Ohio State, Texas, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>and Nebraska have either canceled or shifted their spring game paradigm.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Man one o five roster limit. You know, that's down

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<v Speaker 2>from about one twenty eight. Every player will be able

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<v Speaker 2>to receive a scholarship. It does eliminate walk ons, which

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<v Speaker 2>is thirty percent of college football. There'll be about two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand kids that don't get to play college football this

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<v Speaker 2>fall because of the new roster limit. So some challenges

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<v Speaker 2>for coach Wit and that staff up there, But I

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<v Speaker 2>always appreciate his times