WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:11.640 Callaroga Shark Media, Hello Chunny Mack with your daily comedy news. 2 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:14.839 Whitney Cummings tells The Dallas Observer, I always worried that 3 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:17.160 if I ever got happy, I'd stop being funny. I 4 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:18.960 wish that someone had told me sooner that that's not 5 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:21.039 how it works. My act was about me and my 6 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:24.039 self sabotaging behaviors. But now it's obvious about the world 7 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:26.199 that I'm bringing up my son into and needing to 8 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:28.399 understand it a bit better. It's a nice upgrade from 9 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:31.160 an emotionally fraught, confused person to someone who is less 10 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:34.679 confused and no longer emotionally fraught. As a comedian, I 11 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:36.640 could stay image sure forever, but I learned I could 12 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:39.439 be mature and be happy and still be funny. Micha 13 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.439 Leean blacks All the Inside Hook on Twitter. I learned 14 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:44.520 very early on I'm not going to change anybody's mind 15 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:46.880 about anything, and I no longer try. I'm not trying 16 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:48.799 to change anybody's mind. What I'm trying to do is 17 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.200 engage with people on the basis of their arguments, not 18 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:53.079 because I'm trying to convince them, but because I'm trying 19 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:54.600 to help people who may feel the way I do, 20 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.840 but don't necessarily know how to approach these conversations. And 21 00:00:57.880 --> 00:00:59.679 I don't either a lot of times, so a lot 22 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:01.679 of time when I'm engaging, it's not because I'm so 23 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.960 sure of my own position. It's to understand my own 24 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.480 position better. It's to be able to defend my own 25 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:08.439 position so that if I were to have a conversation 26 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:10.200 with you in real life and something would come up, 27 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:12.959 I might have an actually informed opinion rather than just 28 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:15.519 kind of a knee jerk liberal response to something. Inside 29 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:17.920 Hook points out that Michael Ian Black is not shy 30 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:21.079 about calling out his fellow comedians, including appearing in the 31 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:25.439 recent Louis Ck documentary Sorry Not Sorry, or about writing 32 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:27.560 a piece about the time Andrew dice Clay threatened to 33 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:30.560 kick his ass where Joe Rogan's lazy use of slurs 34 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:33.239 in his latest special. Michael ian Black has a substack 35 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:35.480 which I follow is pretty good, which reminds me I 36 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.959 should promote my own substack. Mine is called media Thoughts 37 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:42.879 by John McDermott. I'll throw a link in the show notes. Basically, 38 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:45.239 I have music Mondays where I just write about whatever 39 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.000 band I feel like writing about. Wednesdays or podcast recommendations, 40 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:50.799 and maybe once or twice a week on the other 41 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:54.079 days I'll write about podcasting. It is not a comedy blog. 42 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:56.920 If I want to talk about comedy, that's this anyway, 43 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:58.920 It's free. I hope you will check it out link 44 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:01.719 of the show notes. Michael Black says it feels hypocritical 45 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:04.480 of me to call out politicians for crappy behavior and 46 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:07.079 then somehow not call out fellow comics for crappy behavior. 47 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:08.680 I don't want to be that guy. Like in a 48 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:11.199 case of Rogan in particular, he is such a massive platform, 49 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:12.919 He's such an influential part of the culture that when 50 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:14.879 he releases a special in the punchline to one of 51 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:16.360 his jokes is I don't want to say the word 52 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:18.840 rhymes with make it. I'm like, you can do better, 53 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:21.520 and you oughte to your audience to do better. Because 54 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.039 he knows who his audience is, and he knows the 55 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.000 influence he has over them. So when he's giving them 56 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:28.199 more a license to be a jerk faces, they're gonna 57 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:31.919 take that license. Slight paraphrase there by me, I don't 58 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:34.080 think it's enough when you're at Joe Rogan's level to say, 59 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:36.560 I'm just a comic. You're not for better or worse 60 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:38.639 or whatever the term actually applies to you. In particular, 61 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.879 you're a thought leader, and I think if was me, 62 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.159 I think you just have responsibility there not to make 63 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:45.319 things worse for people. And I know that's not his intention. 64 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:47.520 I really, in my heart, I believe that. But that's 65 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:49.520 the effect it has. And so Joe Rogan doesn't give 66 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:51.840 a hoot about what I think. Joe Rogan doesn't know 67 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:53.719 who I am. But I thought it was incumbent on me, 68 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:56.919 just to my own conscience, to calling out Greg Fitzsimmons 69 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.240 talked about working with Ellen and said, working with Ellen, 70 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.439 what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right, And I 71 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:03.719 think that it killed me. It was amazing watching the 72 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:05.919 evolution of that show. I was run in to help 73 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:07.800 come up with ideas for the show before it launched. 74 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:10.080 It was a really exciting feeling about it. It was all 75 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:13.240 about positivity and possibility. Then we started winning Emmys and 76 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:15.639 it became very unpleasant. There was a lot of fear 77 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:17.960 going around. It didn't feel fun at the end. I'd 78 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.120 go on the road and all these Midwestern housewives would 79 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:21.360 come up to me after the show and be like, 80 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:22.960 oh my god, you were with Vellen what she like? 81 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:25.680 And I would tell them what she's like, and you 82 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:27.759 could see their shoulders slump and tears wall up in 83 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.719 their eyes and they'd be like no, and I'd be like, yeah, 84 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.680 America loves to tear down its level icons. In some cases, 85 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:36.000 I feel like it's unwarranted. But in this case, it's 86 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.159 amazing to me to see her going out. She's doing 87 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:39.759 this new special where she was talking about how she 88 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:43.719 got thrown under the bus. Let's just say it was warranted. Wow. 89 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:47.599 Ali Sadiq spoke to the spokesman. Ali said people make 90 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:49.319 a lot of mistakes in their life and go through 91 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.520 things you should have went right, but he went left. 92 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:53.800 He zigged when you should have zagged. Things happen. You 93 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:55.599 don't get a chance to pinpoint a lot of times 94 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:58.080 when you went wrong. During his time in prison, he 95 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:00.240 reflected on the mistakes he had made and pinpoint into 96 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.120 the exact year in which the first domino fell, leading 97 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:06.400 to his incarceration. The Domino effect was supposed to be 98 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:08.919 a one off, but he says, as people got to 99 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:10.800 wonder how I got locked up, I want to give 100 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:12.639 the history of it. Once I did Domino Effect and 101 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:14.360 people were interested, it was like, oh, what a way 102 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:16.319 to go, and I can continue to do them. He 103 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.439 recalls comedian Billy D. Washington telling him, when you're not 104 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:23.519 being funny, be interesting. Ollie says, the Domino effects are 105 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:25.439 a reality of that. When I'm not being funny, the 106 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.600 story's interesting. I don't even start off trying to be funny. 107 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:29.319 It's me telling the story and taking this deep dive 108 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:32.040 into what I've experienced versus what somebody else has experienced. 109 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:34.279 I'm still trying to get better as a storyteller. I'm 110 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:35.439 not the best that I can be, yet I can 111 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:37.959 get better, I can develop better. I'm doing other specials 112 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:39.680 in order to get better what I actually do and 113 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:42.160 put out all these different works. He says he wants 114 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.920 to be like Denzel Washington. By the way, you know, 115 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:46.959 if you had a time machine. So when I graduated 116 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.319 from Fordham at University in nineteen eighty seven, the commencement 117 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:55.800 speaker was some unknown actor Denzel Washington. We weren't impressed. Boy, 118 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:59.120 I like a do over on that one. Dumb teenagers, 119 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.800 Ollie says, denzil Ell is Denzel Regardless, it doesn't matter 120 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:03.560 what role he's in, he just tells you something else. 121 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:04.920 I want to get better in my craft, to beat 122 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:06.720 myself and give you all this different work. It's like, Yo, 123 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:08.120 he was great in this. He was great in that. 124 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:09.639 He was different than this, but he was still great. 125 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.600 Same chair, same microphone. He's just giving us something different 126 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:15.639 from the Daily Mail. A Ricky Gervai's skit was shown 127 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.040 in court. Man claimed he was copying at Ricky Gervase 128 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:22.040 when he allegedly did a Nazi salute outside a Jewish 129 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:24.920 museum in Sydney. Three men were charge with behaving in 130 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:28.680 an offensive manner in public after knowing displaying Nazi symbols 131 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:32.199 without an excuse near the Sydney Jewish Museum last October. 132 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:35.240 The men told the police they were joking. One of 133 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:37.759 the men said he was copying a Ricky Gervay's routine, 134 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.959 and a clip played for the court. Ricky Gervas performs 135 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:43.000 a mock Nazi salute while pushing his hair down to 136 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:45.759 Mimick Hitler and says, I do that quick so no 137 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.240 one can take a picture of me doing that. Not 138 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:51.040 a traditional subject for comedy. The Old Holocaust Magistrate Jennifer 139 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:54.360 Atkinson question the timing of the acts, which occurred less 140 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:57.519 than a week after the attacks by Hamas last October. 141 00:05:57.879 --> 00:05:59.959 She told the court, it really is a matter of 142 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.079 common knowledge what occurred in Israel days earlier. You might 143 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:04.800 have said it as a joke, But why that location, 144 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:08.480 why that time, the magistrate added, I'm not making a 145 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:12.040 decision about Ricky Gervais. Friend of the Show, Jason Zenneman 146 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.279 writes in The New York Times under the headline is 147 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:17.759 the comedy club booking process broken? The owners of a 148 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.199 new spot say hiring comics based on referrals from other 149 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:22.480 stand ups is no guarantee the acts will be funny. 150 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:26.120 This is the Bushwick Comedy club owner Jad and his 151 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:29.839 partners plan to book via tape submissions rather than referrals. 152 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:32.279 Jad tells Jason, whether or not you get on stage 153 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:34.000 at most clubs in the city is very little to 154 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.120 do at this point with how funny you are. Most 155 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:38.439 major clubs use a referral system to varying degrees. That 156 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:40.160 means to get on stage you need other comics to 157 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:44.079 vouch for you. Naturally, comedians pick their friends. There's even 158 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:47.759 motivation to promote mediocrity. Jad told Zenneman Honestly, you don't 159 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:50.560 want to follow someone who buries you. Wow. Our main 160 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.199 difference is gonna sound stupid, but simply put, we're gonna 161 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.560 actually watch submission tapes. Referrals will not matter, nor will 162 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.480 social media followers. Only how funny you are on tape? 163 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:01.920 On its Grambush What Comedy Club promotes itself as the 164 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:03.680 only club in New York who books that's line up 165 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:07.560 purely off video submissions. So what's gonna happen? You submit 166 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:09.720 a tape, the three owners watch it. If all three 167 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:11.920 give a thumbs up, you become part of the rotation. 168 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:15.759 If one doesn't like it, you're out. They've already pored 169 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.600 over one thousand tapes and signed up seventy comics. I 170 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:21.079 got news for these guys. That's gonna get old really quick, 171 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:22.879 and comedians gonna be like, hey, you know who's funny? 172 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.399 You should check out this guy, Zenman writes. Several newer 173 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:28.519 club owners, including one of the Tiny Cupboard, describe only 174 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:30.959 watching tapes as impractical because there's not enough hours in 175 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:35.000 the day. Amen. They also say this critique mischaracterizes the process, 176 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:39.240 which typically finds talent through multiple sources, including submissions. This 177 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:42.480 weekend in DC. It's the second annual because they're Funny 178 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:47.639 Comedy Festival, the BTF Festival. I mentioned this before. I 179 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:51.079 think they're being very generous with the word festival. Saturday 180 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.759 at eight o'clock, Dean Cole hosts the second annual Breakout 181 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:56.000 Comedian of the Year competition, All Right to Get Dion 182 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:00.120 Cole and six comedians. Leslie Jones performs Sunday at eight eight. 183 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:03.120 It's not really a festival, guys. That's two shows and 184 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.120 some good branding. Shane Brendan has an album out today. 185 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:10.199 It's called either Way Pretty Funny. It is a funny 186 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:12.959 album and Shane Brennan is way cool. How do I 187 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:15.480 know because I listened to the album and I interviewed 188 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:19.160 Shane Brendan. He'll be the guest on tomorrow's podcast. Loved him. 189 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:21.199 I got to talk to him for another hour, but 190 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:23.319 I had a volleyball game at ten minutes after the 191 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.639 end of the recording and I had a split. Portland, 192 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:29.040 Oregon based comedian and military veteran Shane Brendan releases his 193 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:33.080 debut album Via Blonde Medicine at today in in either 194 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:37.039 Way Pretty Funny, Brendan obsesses over NBA rookies and endearingly 195 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:38.799 gripes about his family and if you ever want to 196 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:41.399 hear somebody do slam poetry about working at McDonald's, well 197 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:44.000 he's got you covered. He is my guest tomorrow. It 198 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:47.720 is a wonderful conversation. Please check it out. Also out today, 199 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:51.720 Paige Weldon's comedy album I've Turned Out Fine. This one 200 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:55.360 from a Special Thing Records, Recorded in la It's Page's 201 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:57.919 third comedy album and includes personal stories about working in 202 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:00.279 a library, being an only child, and not attending high 203 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:03.080 school reunion, as well as takes on her parents, tattoos, 204 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:06.240 surprise continents, and health Therapista likes strippers now I'm remembering. 205 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:09.639 I asked the record label if Page Weldon wanted to 206 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:11.919 do the show. I didn't hear back from them. What's 207 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:13.960 the deal with that? And that is your comedy news 208 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:16.480 for today? Why? Because my voice just gave out. I'd 209 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:19.720 recorded three of these in a row to accommodate my schedule. 210 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:21.960 So that's your comedy news for today. If you'd like 211 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.360 the program with us commercial interruption, there's a link of 212 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:25.639 the show notes. I'd tell you how to do that. 213 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:28.799 This podcast supports podcasting two point zero if you want 214 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.519 to stream some SATs my way, use a podcasting two 215 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:33.679 point zero app and you can do that. I like 216 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.240 true Fans. I also like Hastematic is another good app 217 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:39.159 for that sort of thing. And it always helps to 218 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:40.360 grow the show. If you tell a friend about it, 219 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:42.720 if you like the show, they might like it too. 220 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:45.480 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, see you tomorrow with 221 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:46.600 Shane Brennan. He's really great.