Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another geek First review
episode for Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man. I am one
of your hosts, the Webster Kirkland Patzer.
Speaker 2: I'm the Finesse Truss.
Speaker 3: Now I'm the What a Show Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: The what a Show?
Speaker 4: Taylor Field, the Esley and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: This is the final episode for season one of Your
Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man. And I say season one because
I there's a lot of you know, we'll talk spoilers,
but like, man, I need more of this, but confirmed,
I yeah, I know, I'm just I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: But yeah, before we get into that, just a couple
of things to shout out here. We got tons of
content dropping right now. We got what other shows are
we doing right now? We got Dexter finale coming up,
and we got Daredevil gonna be starting up here. We're
getting close to the end of February, which means you know.
Speaker 2: Dexter end already. You said it's coming up. The finale.
We did that last week.
Speaker 1: Remember, Oh my goodness, you you got me there? Yesney,
not a clip I was expecting to see in a
Spider Man episode. But here we are, so yeah, but
I don't know, help me out, guys. What do we
got dropping right now?
Speaker 4: We just did in originals for the patreons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll drop soon for the patrons once I edit that.
But yeah, that's a great show where we just talk
about random stuff, our lives, lots of good tangents. This
one of the big things I'll pump out right now
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The five bucks, it gets you hundreds of hours exclusive
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So a lot of things going on.
Speaker 1: Kat Wait, yeah, you mentioned Patreon. That's the best way
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couple of things on there, you know, I heard through
the grapevine there might be the final Daredevil retrospective episode
dropping here pretty soon, so that'll be on the Patreon
right away and then to the main feeds before Daredevil
Born Again comes out. That's also what I heard through
the grape vine. But shouts out to our patron producers
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you know, and Jeremy Renner and Charlie Randell. Thank you
to each and every one of you. Alrighty, I want
to get right into it because this is uh, well
never mind, I guess we won't spoil anything yet, but
overall thoughts on the show, guys, it's it's over here.
I feel like this was a really fast show to
get through, even though you know, it wasn't like a
six episode show or anything. First, like, what did you
think of the show, what do you think of the finale?
And what do you think about this formula for releasing
episodes this way, because it's like a little burst fire.
You know, it starts with two episodes and then three
episodes in between, and the finales another two episoder. I
personally really really liked it, just because I was really
liking the show. And another show that I'd bring up
is like something like Creature Commandos, where I felt I
really like the show, but just having it only one
episode a week, like I was still there every week,
but I was just I think I didn't really have
a lot of hype because it would just take a
long time between episodes, like I do like it this
formula where I get three episodes, which is you know,
that's like an hour and a half movie essentially, but
and then I can just stew on that for for
a week and then come back. But yeah, wait what
about you guys.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, for me, the yeah, I the show
was absolutely.
Speaker 1: Just in crowds a good thing. Yeah, holy shit, it was.
Speaker 5: Just fantastic that when we get to this finale, unfreak unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I was loving it.
Speaker 5: And everything was just coming full circle, everything was expanding
and opening up at the end, and it was just
holy shit, I was, I was there, and I can't
wait to talk about one specific thing in that final episode.
It was great, but just all these little easter eggs
and just things like you just you gotta pause, and
you got to look at this whole scene and like
take notes like oh man, I got a reference, like
look at what this is later, and just like going
to Google and just type in all these other things
like oh, this is going to lead to this and
this will be this.
Speaker 3: Oh this is so cool.
Speaker 5: Like it just gets me super super pumped, And I'm
very happy about that because when the show was announced
there was excitement, but when we actually started with that, okay,
I'm not I wasn't super gung ho and getting into
the show right at the start, but it quickly, very
quickly turned that around for me the more I watched it.
And so I've been recommending this show to everyone that
I bump into that you know, I know likes for
the most part, superhero stuff and telling I'm like, yeah,
give the show a try.
Speaker 3: It's awesome.
Speaker 5: And even the animation that people were shitting on that
completely goes out the windows so fast, the way that
this show uses that art style to have it where
all of a sudden they're fighting in the comic book
panels and then it like the attacks like move out
of the panels the borders and like jumps into another
frame of the comic book. There's just it's such quality
and I'm so very happy with this show. My god,
this is one of my favorite twenty twenty five projects
so far of the year.
Speaker 2: N you others give me your top five? Yeah, I
got none.
Speaker 4: Okay, Taylor, what do you think about the episode release?
Speaker 1: Though? Like in two episodes and the three then three
this is perfect.
Speaker 5: I'm so like, I'm sad that it's done, but I'm
so happy that we're able to just go like two
back to back, three back to back kind of a thing.
Speaker 3: It's just it was it was great.
Speaker 5: It was great.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm up too, Like I'll start there. I'm of
two minds of it because I think it's it's tricky
to the animation because you don't get the same audience,
so you're kind of home for that burst cluster, but
at the same point, you do risk the fact of
it coming out so much and then people are like, oh,
I wanted to get to them, and then it just
goes in the back burn and you never get to that.
I think if I would have chosen, I would have
had Creature Commandos do the burst and this could have
been weekly, because I think this is like a much
better show than Creature Commandos. I think there's more times
where I felt satisfied and ended on a cliffhanger with
this show and be like, oh, I can't wait for
Creature Commands, Like oh, that's another like solid episode of
the Creatures, you know, like I there. I don't think
it because it's tricky because the way that format of
that show when it was like with the action, but
then all the flashbacks you never to me were left
too many times like I gotta see what's next a
few times with Spider Man, I think they had that.
But yeah, so I think they could do it again.
But I could see with the show having a bit
more hype, that they do it weekly next time. But
I think also goes into what they have right the
same way as Daredevil that release it has nine episodes,
but we're getting two weeks where there's two episodes, right,
just because they don't want to go with and or
so it literally could might not even be that where
it's like, oh, we think this is best. It's also
just like what we got and or Daredevil, Iron Heart,
wonder Man, Marvel Zombies. It could just be a case
if they did this because like, well, we got too
much shit right now, right, so let's see, I think
sees too they should because they said they got season
two done their animating and then and then you got
season three. What I would do, even though you guys
like it more, I would honestly do season two one
week and then you have two seasons of compare it
and c KA which worked better for you? Is like
a what? Like literally what streamed more? What got more?
Because this is obviously Kirkland still very far behind but invincible.
That was a huge complaint and I did kind of
kill the show where they did season two and they
did a halfway break and then came back months later,
and that just derailed all the height for the show.
And I don't think it's been like I think it
lost audience. It never been the same since, so you
do got to be tricky. But yeah, overall I think
the show, I don't think I'm I'm nowhere near as
strung as a is tailor. I don't think it's like like, sure,
I could say it's one of my favorite projects of
the year, but again it's in February, so I'm if
the rest the MCU projects or Marvel projects are this
good that'd be great because Cap wasn't this, so I
would love it so death I could say, right now,
this is the one to beat, and I do you
think other than F four, I don't know what could
beat it because all these other projects are very like
if you all. But yeah, I thought it was a
very solid, I'll say, very good final two episodes. I
still think the middle season I liked the best. I
think the finale was good, but also was ton like
luckily ridden season two. But it was tons of setup,
almost so much set up that I thought you could
have held some stuff back, like I love you know,
we're nonspoils, but someone get in the sidekicked. But at
the same time, it's like, is that really needed here?
But I think they're just trying to bank on Hey,
you've got to come back, so they're throwing everything to
the wall. So I thought the pacing was a bit off.
And I don't love the direction of one way we're
going for season two because I just feel like so
much Spider Man content is always about getting this certain
plot and it's like, Okay, I think we could take
a little break. I know Kirklan might disagree because he
is a poster of one of these things in his room.
But I just feel like, okay, like, let's take a
pause on this. There's other Spider Man stories we could
do here. But overall, very good. I think. Yeah, the
animation got better or was used better later on, and
that suit looked fantastic. Love the animation looked fantastic. Fin
now had a very fun, clever, multiversal ish sort of thing.
I suppose Whatever's last two episodes, and I thought that
was fun. Yeah. No, I thought it was a very
good final two episodes and definitely left me one more.
I'm excited to see where we go now. I hope
though with season two, I hope it is something where
is at least next year, because I don't know if
the show it has the hype. I don't know if
it has the same ninety seven hype where that's going
to come in and be like, oh people, no matter
what watch it. I could see people not fall off.
But if you take too long, people do forget about things, right,
and you'll have Spider Verse coming back at some point
in the real life Spider Man. So yeah, I don't know,
but yeah, very good show. I'll obviously save my score
to the end. But I'm happy it got better as
it went on for me.
Speaker 1: Nice, yeah, I uh. Overall for this season just stellar
for me, just absolutely stellar. I was so blown away
by these last two episodes. I really really I already
talked about like the episode release format, but just kind
of the formula for how they told the season, Like
there is a lot of setup at the end for
another season, but I just love the way that they
kind of tied up the knots for like the main plots.
You know that we're introduced here obviously, you know we're
still going on. It's not everything closed out here. A
lot of setup for sure in the finale, but I
felt like in the panel to an episode, it was
like the closing chapter for this season, and then and
then the tenth episode being like the epilogue and like
like leading into the next Well I'll detail that when
we get into spoilers, but I just I was able to,
like fully, I don't know, close close the book on
like the plot lines in the second last episode and
then in the finale, I was just I was just juicing.
You know. I sent you guys the Talladega Nights, you know,
chick on the window. That's how I felt just watching
really both of these episodes, but honestly throughout the whole season,
I've never like made a tear list or like ranked
like my favorite like Spider Man storylines or anything like that,
but like just just off the hop, I feel like
this is like top three, and like maybe that's being
a little too generous, but like, I was just so
in love with the way that they did certain characters, dynamics,
the setup of certain villains, and just the origins of
so many characters that like Nico and Peter is just
like friends. Is just such a great dynamic. I really
really like how it's they're not even trying to like
shoehorn like a like a romantic relationship that because that's
usually always what happens with Peter Parker. It's just they're
just buddies, you know, And like, I just really love
their chemistry. I like the Spider crew that we have
kind of just like Peter's guy in the chair, and
then just like the whole dynamic of balancing like the
friendly neighborhood aspect to it. I think the show does
a really good job at keeping it really grounded. Matt
gargan Man as a villain like this is probably this
is probably like one of the best like versions of
Matt Gargan ever of like making him feel ferocious and
not just like like a fucking what he was and homecoming,
you know, where he's just like a goon. So I
there's so many aspects of the show that I really
really appreciate. I really really love and yeah, just the
way that they're able to tell this season story I
was so so impressed by and it really really surpassed
my expectations for what I had going into it. And yeah, no,
I think it's so fantastic. I really love the animation,
really love the drawing style. I love like the modernness
on like the old sixties inspired like just drawing style,
the comic book like just boxes. Like it's just just
such a fun show to watch. And yeah, I'm gonna
be itching for the next season. I like the release format,
but it's also like, fuck, it just started. I feel like,
you know, just a couple of weeks ago. So yeah, no,
but I highly highly recommend this to everyone. Hopefully everybody
just keeps watching the show and it just keeps doing
crazy numbers, because I just want to keep going down
this universe's storylines.
Speaker 2: So I know you're spidy guys, so I'm sure I
know your answer. But if you had to rank this,
ninety seven and Cape Crusader, what's your ranking those three?
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a really that's a really spicy list because
I was thinking about this and ninety seven and not
really about Cape Crusader.
Speaker 2: But that was just last year. Remember, Yeah, they did
a binge drop, right, So it's so funny we got
different styles of like ninety seven was weekly, Capes was binge,
and then this was like a multi.
Speaker 4: That's so tricky.
Speaker 1: I uh, I might be lying myself here, but I
I would probably put ninety seven last, honestly.
Speaker 2: Wow, I know, yeah, jesuse I got nice just first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would. I think I would do.
Speaker 2: Kay, Are you still need to get on the Cape
Crusader route next time you're Batman moved it's on Amazon.
Just put on.
Speaker 1: They're all just like so there though, like like it's
it's tough to really differentiate them all. But yeah, I
have too much Spiderman properties in this room alone to
not put it at number one.
Speaker 2: But uh so we both got Batman in the middle,
and then one and two are flipped or one and three.
Speaker 4: So yeah, because Cape Crusader is just so good.
Speaker 1: Also, it's just a Batman ster like I always loved Batman,
but I feel like that just made me appreciate that
type of like I don't know, dark gratty animation style,
the noir aspects of the show. Everybody go watch that too, but.
Speaker 2: You watch it when you watch.
Speaker 4: Oh, there's so much good stuff in there that you love, Taylor.
Speaker 3: I will make a point of seeing it, Kirk.
Speaker 2: When you catch up on the vincipal.
Speaker 1: Let me finish Daredel and then we'll talk, all right,
I cut priority list. Cool, all right, if there's nothing
less to be said, we're gonna skid out on over
to the spoiler section. So we're gonna go through the
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Speaker 2: But there's some good.
Speaker 1: Let's talk money talks, all right. Where do you guys
want to start from? There's a lot of juice in
like the last finale episode. Do we want to wait
to get there because episode eight was heavy, but well
that's fine.
Speaker 2: I was gonna take us somewhere that wasn't there, so
maybe that was do it. But because you talk about
in nonspoilers, I was mad. I was one episode off.
A Scorpion did come back as that final boss, but
he did get destroyed here, not destroyed, but he lost.
But I thought, I'm like, oh, my prophecy is right.
Obviously they were doing some very different stuff for what
the actual finale was like with the time trial, so
that I had no idea, yeah, that was gonna go down,
which I do feel better because on the whole I hated.
The two things I hated was okay, it's all inspirement. Okay,
it's not that, and then when we got the pitch,
it's like, okay, Peter Parker gets bit by a multiverse spider.
It's like, oh, man, like I don't like this, and
like it is a multiverse spider now, but it's not
like it's just like it's a time traveling spider. So
like there is some shenanigans, but it's still like from
our world in a sense. So I did end up
enjoying that where it kind of helped something down the line.
But uh yeah, I was close with Scorpion. But great scene,
like he said, he's intimidating, and great fight. See great
moments with the uh whatever they are, the Tens of
the Nines, whatever the hell they are, and then.
Speaker 4: The one tenth Street Gang.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can't remember what the scorpions are or
they just called scorpions.
Speaker 2: I think, think a bunch of scorpion tattoos something like that.
But then and then yeah, tombso agains some great moments
to shine. But uh yeah, so Scorpion was a big
shining point in here, and I wouldn't be opposed to
him coming back next season, but I think with already
how busy we are, I don't foresee him coming back
right now because even stuff like last week we met
Chameleon right and it's like he didn't get beat. So
I think maybe he could come down the line, but
it might be hell, who knows, maybe we'll get a
citisor six at some point too.
Speaker 1: So oh man, goosebumps, And like, I think that the
way that they handled him goes to show that like
they can take not I don't want to say a
lesser villain, but like like a lesser big bat. Yeah,
beat tier villain and like really stretch out for a season,
and like, man, imagine if the show just keeps going,
we get six seasons of this, you know, like they
come back to clash. I oh, I'm just juicing over
the possibly. But I love the look of his suit too,
Like it looked very like Junkyard suit but also like
advanced tech.
Speaker 4: Like I just I love the style and his attitude,
Like it.
Speaker 1: Just felt like I was playing PS one Spider Man
again and just get my ass handed to me by
Scorpion because he's just so strong and I can't beat
the boss fight, like even even the way that he
shocks him, like he'd like jumps out of the way
the stinger comes in, hits the lightning, and I'm like, man,
this is literally like a boss battle. I'm pretty sure
I fought the Hino like this in the PS one
Spider Man game. So I just I love the combat
in here, but specifically everything around Scorpion. It was. It
was so juicy and like you probably had Peter honestly
without Tombstone's help, like like he has he had the
motivation to save Tombstone. Maybe I don't. I don't know,
but yeah, I think Scorpion would have had him without
the two fer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the whole fight scene was. It was
definitely an amp up from the last time they faced off.
But I liked I like getting to the point where
Peter was going to just fucking execute him. It was like,
this is holl And Spider Man dealing with Goblin, and I.
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent, Oh yeah, I'd say one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I was fully believing he was actually gonna kill him
because I thought this show is going to be I
thought the things the show, I thought, the things we've
seen in this show have just really felt like flipped
and with Tombstone kind of being like a hero, and
all of a sudden, I thought, man, this would be
crazy if they made Tombstone like a hero and the
Spider Man like Burder's a guy, and then it's like
a redemption later on, like they can totally just turn
this into a crazy what if scenarios.
Speaker 3: I really wasn't sure what.
Speaker 5: To expect, except for the fact that, man, I really
thought he was going to execute him. But yeah, especially
when you have Norman's like voice playing in his mind,
like at that scene like respect power.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, Fuck, he's gonna he's gonna cross the line.
Speaker 2: A lot of discord in the Spider Man fans because
obviously the Spider Man fans usually don't like when he's
killing kind of like Batman's. That would have been a
that would have been interesting to see if he accepted that.
Speaker 1: That's where I was at though, because like initially when
he was about to kill him, I just I really
didn't like it.
Speaker 4: It just seems so rush.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this feels like a symbiote Spider Man thing,
you know, and it's really like multiplying his emotions and
just like really getting am angry but like it, and
like this is just very innocent young Peter. But then
I'm thinking about like those versions that I'm used to
seeing where like the symbiote tweaks him, but he's like
super super good before then, like he it doesn't seem
like he's really had like the same maybe important talks
with someone like a Ben Parker, like especially thinking about
like the great power comes with great responsibility, like think
about this the same He's the same the Sam Raimie.
I'm gonna use that actually the same Spider verse where
like I feel like when Peter is having issues about
I don't know, just hero stuff, like he just thinks
back to like that quote or that line or that
conversation or that whatever it was, and the same it
would be uh a, Ben Parker. You know, great park come,
great responsibility. But this Peter definitely didn't get those same
types of things. If the first instance he's getting of
a quote like that is from normal I was born
with great Parker's great respect, Like fucking murder that man,
you know, like make him bleed, Definitely his psyche would
be a little bit different, right, So I was just
thinking about that afterwards, and it definitely helped me pallette
that situation because initially I'm like, this is just this
is too far off the line, like like come on friend,
neighborood Spider Man.
Speaker 2: Like there's you know, it doesn't matter, there's still good personal.
Speaker 1: Well, no Tombstone stopped it. He was gonna do it
if Tombstone didn't, I think so I think he would have.
Speaker 6: I think he would have, yeah, because I saw people
making the comparisons to No Way Home the same way
Maguire stops Holland, So I guess yeah, he he could have,
but hopefully it's the same way as like I guess
in my mind he have done it.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like how you know Toby, he refers
back to when he killed He didn't really kill him,
but he did kill him like Ben Parker's murder. Remember,
he's like in no way home. He's like, I want
him dead, and I got what I wanted, so well
he tripped and fell through it. But still they chalked
it up as like, well, Peter murdered that dude, right,
But then like after that, Peter was okay. He wasn't
like a fucking murder or anything like that. So, yeah,
you're right, he did stop it. But I think the
way he carried himself and talked after, and the way
he kind of had that conversation with Norman and Norman's
just not gas lighting him, just a complete fake person
to me at least showed that maybe, right, that's something
in the split decision. But I also think if he
would have done it, he maybe would have regretted it
right away, and that would have been a moment that
would get him on that track, you know, So that
that's the other way I took it too, But you're right,
which is gonna be interesting for for Tombstone because and
then the show we see him he's left his jacket,
he got whatever something in that that truck. I don't
know what it was, but that.
Speaker 1: Gas is the Tombstone juice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that's what I was officially
listed as in the market, but the Tombstone juice. But yeah,
he got super strong stuff. But yeah, his skin starting appeal.
You can see that white skin under there, So I'm
interested in this route of like, hey, do we have
him be like is that the descent of you see
this guy who stopped Peter and then at some point
he goes down a dark alley or is he going
to be kind of like how sometimes Kingpin is the
daredevil right where he's like a criminal, but his pitch
is always like, well, like I'm gonna be the right
type of criminal that does this, this and this, and
I'm better for the city. Like that's I'm I'm excited
and interesting where Tombstone goes because really he should have
took that from Beer. And then he just kills Scorpion
right and he's just like, yeah, I'm the fucking man now,
But he still is like, you know, I want to
say hero, but he was he wasn't a bad guy,
I don't think too. So, yeah, a criminal, but now
he's leading the organization too, so I don't know. It's
interesting with him.
Speaker 1: So and definitely not the way that we predicted, Like
we kind of had some different predictions.
Speaker 4: I assumed it was going to be Don dies.
Speaker 1: Or something, and that's how he picks up the mantle.
I think you said you thought he was gonna maybe
kill Don, just like thoughts on him.
Speaker 2: Don just ran away like a little bit, just a
little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, never liked character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that's what makes me think that they
might do the more King finish where he is a
bad guy, but he's never gonna be like and I'll
fucking kill ant may like I don't. I don't think so.
I think he'll be a criminal but not a villain,
if you get my dripped.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm so glad that like it didn't really
happen this season where he is a bad like an
evil guy, like like there's some changes behavior for sure,
you're starting to turn to the gang life, but like
at the end, he's like partnering up with Spider, man, like,
don't worry, I got your back. They're like fist bumping,
Like I just fucking love that sequence, Like that was awesome.
I'm so glad he didn't come out of that truck.
And it's just like he's he's a mad, mad evil
guy now because the Gayla Spider Man. Yeah, or like
maybe the gas just tweaks his brain and now he's
like a maniac. Like I'm so glad it wasn't that fast,
you know, like we have some.
Speaker 4: Time to speak.
Speaker 1: Ha isn't that right? Brother? And like who knows, maybe
we have a time skip from season one to season two,
so we jump. He's got a lot more patches, and
he's just getting more into the crime scene, like he's
he's clearly fitting in there.
Speaker 4: He's the leader now, like he's found his family, and
I just I.
Speaker 1: Just feel like initially in early portions of the season,
when he was starting to turn to the one tenth Gang,
it felt so early for me to like to just
trust that like the motivation of the bind would be there,
because it's just that's not what was shown here. But
then as the season went on, like you know, maybe
he was just really putting on all these these acts
because he feels like that's the role he needs to do,
whereas here he can be more of himself and it
just feels a little bit more natural. I don't know,
I'm just a little bit more warm to the idea.
But I did not expect Donovan to just run away
like that. Initially, I'm like, that is so fucking stupid,
this guy that's supposed to be But like, I don't know,
maybe it fits like he's never seen someone like this before, right,
Like he's only ever seen regular gangs, not like powers
and like.
Speaker 4: The play where he's about to lose his life.
Speaker 1: I did. I did appreciate though, and like, you know,
not a fan of you know, don't don't, don't push
for gang violence or anything, but I like that just
a hand to hand combat in these gang fight scenes,
like fuck guns these days, man, Like, let's just let's
just brawl it out with some fucking pipes and fisty cups.
Speaker 7: So we do we have a prom first, we don't
out the window when the moment the guy with the
fucking naked gamma fueled scorpion tail walks in and still like, oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well they still the one tenth still think so
they can do this big dons like let's get them
like and we already know this is gonna play out,
like god damn yes, I'm what was I gonna say,
um about Tombstone talking about Yeah, how long do you
think Tombstone can ride that trend with his parents, like, oh,
I'm going to school, get my ged, Yeah, I got
tests like I love you too, Like that's not gonna last.
Speaker 2: The skin is kind of going. They're gonna have some
questions right like, oh n, they want to get them
mat like checked out. Like I don't think long next
well season.
Speaker 1: If he's taking his GED's like done high school, so
I imagine he's just gonna be like, yeah, like moving
on his life. He's an adult now, he's gonna move
out of the house and just go that way, Like
he's just gonna be probably living with the gang if
he's looking for them.
Speaker 5: That's where if he's gonna ditch his parents, I think
he's gonna be leaning one to that mentality that you
were talking about earlier, which he thought.
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't have it.
Speaker 5: When he gets out of the van and he's just
like fuck Spider Man, like that anger, that insanity.
Speaker 3: Canna finish high school, though I think he's just lying.
Speaker 2: He's not because to me, I took it as his
jack in the garbage was like he ain't going back,
like to even finish high school. So that's where it's like,
I don't know what's gonna happen, Like what's gonna happen
come graduation day and their son's not there.
Speaker 1: I just assumed he was smart enough that he could
like pass the GED like Barri just take the test,
not necessarily study. But you're like you said, no reason
to even go take the test if he's just going
full gangster.
Speaker 2: I guess he doesn't. He could say doesn't want to
go graduation too great, he says he's done high school
and stuff and everything, So I get there's there's ways
around it, so it will be, Yeah, it's gonna be
interesting saying of his brother and stuff, but also too
like it we got the fuck Spider Man. But they
could do that down the line, that that gas hurts
some more and more like a goblin thing. Right, it
could be that he starts to lose himself so as
of right now just powers and skin, But it could
be like it's deteriorating his mind. So there's well, that's
I love. There's multiple routes, and like I said, i'd
maybe like them to go a different route other than
fuck Spider Man, because I feel like we're gonna get
that with Norman, right, He's gonna take a serum and
then he's gonna turn into the Goblin. Right, So I
feel like if Tombstone does that, you might be kind
of repetitive. And I feel like this show so far
is done. They get on the classic line, but then
do some twist along the way. If it's just he
becomes a guy that hates Spider Man's like, well, other
than him knowing Peter, that's not much of a twist, right,
It's Tombstone's a criminal that doesn't like Spider Man. We've
ended up at the same point, right, And I feel
like Goblin is the same one that we all think, yeah,
do that. But I'd be fine if they did some
new stuff, you know, again, if he was like I
don't know if there's even a way to get him
on the crime fighting side at some point, right, I
don't know, Like Norman, no, No, Tombstone not normal. I
think Ormand's far gone. I yeah, because with Norman that
That's what was interesting in this to me, Like we
talked about like he is bad but still like there's
different versions, and it's like is it a level of
is he a villain or is he try and do
good but bad things? That whole conversation with doc Owk
was like, Oh no, he's still just a fucking piece
of shit. Like I feel like he's even more evil
than like even I make the case for like Dafoe's
Norman at times he's trying to do the right thing
right and he goes about it wrong. But now this
conversations doc Awk, I was like, oh no, I don't
even know if he's trying to do the right thing
at all.
Speaker 1: Really, especially with Norman, he he like okay, questionable methods sometimes,
but like he really wasn't an evil guy until he
took the seer Um right and really was so.
Speaker 2: Prick right, he was just like, yeah, that's and obviously
with that's kind of the same thing if you look
at Amazing Spider Man, like the movie and like the
comics are kind of all over like sometimes they are
Norman's a bad guy and God's the worst guy, or
it is Norman's a you know, regular father figure try
and do good but you know, asshole but then evil
And I I think there's good versions of bo because
I do, like I like the nice Dafoe, but I
also love the pitch that people say, like green Gold
is like Lex Luthor and the Joke are put together,
which is very fun. So it's kind of depends. But yeah,
here I think he's just a bad guy now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, like the fact that he's been playing like
just this whole thing out right from the beginning, Like
he got all these interns, not just Peter, all these
interns to like make this fucking super teleportation device thing
that he has, Like like he's just playing everyone all
the time, and I just feel like that sinister. I
guess it's not necessarily sinister, but like for him, it's sinister,
Like he's just he's just always planning and like just
trying to get that ultimate power right and just not
being truthful and trusting. Like that's where this Norman versus
like a Dafoe Norman, you know, pre back to formula.
I definitely think this one's a lot more evil. If
we were to put that, he's way more evil.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's harvested Peter's blood and is creating an
army as Spider Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, probably into all the samples.
Speaker 2: Know how you got that scurfy a syringe. Yeah, so
I didn't know that could work. You just just stick
it in there right in the I forgot about the blood.
That's another big no no, because that's like against your
will sort of stuff.
Speaker 5: So that's yeah, it would time out with when he
got his scorpion fight, right, and they got all that
blood from him from his injuries, and they would have
been on file. But I'm curious about that when again
to time travel that the paradox of that, So like
Spider Man is with Doctor Strange and the Spider with
Peter's DNA drops the portal and then bites Peter. So
that would mean that blood is harvested from Spider Man Peter,
but that means it has to start from a non
Spider like it starts from a Spider Man Peter at some.
Speaker 3: Point in history.
Speaker 5: But then that Peter would not have been bitten by
the Spider because it had to have been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, I got really hyped on just the
way things were playing out. Because as soon as Doctor
Strange is like I don't know, Like I don't I
wasn't there, and then I'm like putting it together. I'm like,
oh my god, that doesn't happen yet, Like we're going
back to formula here, We're going back there. Like I
was just juice and I was getting goosebumps. I was
just loving the fight scene and everything. It was so
visually pleasing, and then like that's when I started thinking
about it, where I'm like, well, this is the same
fucking Spider that like he wouldn't have gotten the blood
if he didn't go through this event already. So then
I just chose to just a but it's like a
back think about it too much, because yeah, it's like
I think the best way to explain it would be
it's like a timeline. That's just it. It's like a ruler,
and then you're like here on the ruler, and then
all of a sudden, like this portion of the rule
it's still there, like it is a line.
Speaker 4: They're just accessing it.
Speaker 1: So I don't really love time travel explained that way
typically because I just don't necessarily love the idea of
just everything's planned out already, like it's just it's happening
whether you like it or not, Like the book is
written like it's just those what that's what happens there
just kind of I don't know, taps the free will
topic maybe, but here I think it was just I
love the way that it played out, Like I really
love the full circle moment. Going back to episode one,
it was just it was so well done, and like
I said, like came after the penultimate episode, so like
we closed the Matt Gargain threat and like just the
one tense stuff and then here it's just a it's
just like I wasn't even expecting this type of adventure.
Norman just takes us to this back room and it's
just like, yeah, and I took your device and this device,
and I just made the Infinity Gauntlet more or less
for time travel, and it was just, yeah, doctor Strange,
show up. I was feasting on all of the setup
that I really wasn't bothered by the uh the time
travel thing, and I just chose to look past it,
not dissect it too much because you know, oh, it's took.
At the endgame review, we spend a lot of time
talking about that stuff.
Speaker 2: People don't me. I don't give a shit about the
time travel. It's just like it's we're in a world
with like wizards and symbios. It's like, however it works,
it works at some point. That's how it started. I
again with the Norther thing, I really enjoyed in front
of everybody, when doctor Strange is there, he's like, motherfucker him,
and he's like being the good guy babyface, like we
had clean after your messes and we don't know what
you do and everything like that. So again in the public,
still seems like that great guy trying to do good
right and even then, like he had that phone conversation
with Peter, Peter does tell him to go and he goes,
Like at no point in that scene was normally like
and fuck you Peter, like forgetting the way he's still
want to fucking kill you. Yeah. Yeah, he still played
his role very well, So I think that was smart.
And uh yeah, that was the only thing where I
liked the idea. I thought some of the great animation
was or I thought the animation was great when they
were in space and go to all this stuff. My
only handt was I just I just don't need the
symbiote right now, and I just feel like I feels
like it's an exact Obviously, the stories are very different, right,
but my sport is for you, Taylor. But it's the
exact trajectory that the video games are on right now,
where first game is Peter's Adventure, second game Symbiot, and
that's leading to Goblin, right, That's exactly what we're doing here,
where I don't think we had Green Golb. Next one,
it's gonna be some Symbiote, and then it's gonna be
Storm and Norman for three. My counterpoint is, at least
they've been doing things differently enough. I'm like, Okay, I'll
give it a shot. But it's not like I'm over
the Symbio. But between the games and vandom everything, and
just because it's just it's happened a lot. Like I
was kind of hoping they'd go somewhere else as like
the Big Threat maybe next year, you know, because I'm
like like stuff, like like you said, Scorpion becoming maybe
like more an eight here in the show. Do that
with somebody else. Get Shocker in there, get Chameleon, even Vulture,
you know. But then I's already on that, like yeah, fuck,
give me a great round. But like thenams all in
that a t already right, It's like you don't need to.
Speaker 4: Like so yeah, movies, he's got movies.
Speaker 2: Tobs is that it's him, Doc Hawk and Golm. I'm
a Golm guy. I think he's the top marvel one.
But still like for me, it's like, I don't I
don't know if I need Venom right away, so I'll
give them benefit doubt because they've done great spins with
this show, but it's just I hope it's not like,
oh and here's my friend Andy Brock and it's like like,
I I hope it's something different. And even though it's
like I don't want to be hairy because we're getting
then the Games and we got them the Ultimate Universe,
like that's where I just don't know what route they're
gonna go, so I'll wait and see. But I was
a little like, Okay, I don't need Simio directly right now, so.
Speaker 4: They've had zero set up to it.
Speaker 1: But I feel like a perfect villain to have in
the show because it would just fit so well.
Speaker 4: Is a mysterio.
Speaker 1: I just feel like they could do so much fun
stuff with a mysterious storyline and just nothing set up
that way, so I really don't think it's gonna happen
at least next season.
Speaker 2: But Craven still not seeing the movie, but one of
those people that need But again, they just did in
the game too, right, So that's everything. I hope it's
not that. I hope it's not. Mister Neggat would fit
perfectly in the show, and I feel like the animation
would be fire, absolutely fire.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, no, absolutely, they could play around some
fun stuff there.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I I'm a little I'm a little in the middle
for the Venom stuff because I really like the initial setup.
Like an episode one, I'm like, wow, it's nice. It's
not Venom. You know, it's like a symbiote, but it
like it's it looks like a saber tooth thing, like
he's got like the fur coat with like some mandibles.
It's just a very different style of a of a
symbiotic creature, even though you know it looks like Venom.
And then when they had the portal, I was all
over it. I'm like, I love that this is just
like a space Venom entity that's not. Yeah, I'm glad
it wasn't. No, Like like it's like let's just have
this like black gooey thing with a with a scary
face and space and it's just it like reabsorbs itself,
like it's just this thing.
Speaker 2: Eventually that that was looking like a symble planet and
they threw him back. That was like, oh, and I
don't know if I need no on the show because
like he's could be more serious, but that was a
big time simul planet that.
Speaker 1: I feel like I didn't really I'll have to pull
up the episode. I didn't really stare too long at
the planet itself. I just they shot out and then
I just saw a space.
Speaker 2: When they throw them back there it is like a
moon or some below them. So I would just assume
it's okay, that is some sort of planet. But it's
kind of funny, like obviously probably know who. But with
this and Bamman Kate Crusader, they do that thing where
it's like, oh, we we didn't touch that villain, but
in season two, we're gonna do that. And I don't
know if ninety seven, I can't remember if ninety seven
alluded to anybody that was big. But so again I
get it right because that's it's it's a good go
to first Spider.
Speaker 1: It's a great talking point right to end the season
that way, like people are just holy fuck, He's kind
of it's the same thing that you already talked about
the PS four video game, Like the way that that
was just had people buzzing and talking.
Speaker 4: Can wait about the playing the Venom?
Speaker 2: And I just don't want I don't know if I
need another more so than the Eddie Brock or sim
I just don't need another, Like Peter Parker goes bad
thing right now because I'm enjoying this Peter. So it's
like line So that's where I'm hoping maybe someone else
gets it, you know.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm right there with you on like the
Venom hold Back. It is like just what it would do,
like to change Peter and the dynamic of his friends,
Like it's just like, man, like, I feel like we
go Harry the girl.
Speaker 3: That likes someone never named Daredevil symbio.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine I'm fine, I'll take a Daredevil fight
Spider Man episode, but yeah, it would be uh, they'll
give it to Finesse.
Speaker 4: I would I would prefer what you.
Speaker 2: Is that it's a sidekick.
Speaker 1: That's okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know that much about her, but yeah, that's
her name. Finesse, I'm I'm much more of a blind
Spot uh sidekick supporter, But here.
Speaker 4: We are blind Spot is his sidekick.
Speaker 2: That's another one. Yeah, also blind he's gonna make us
he's deaf. I think wait, I might be mixing them up.
Speaker 1: Okay, the Venom thing, I I would prefer just being
like staying in the lab for most of maybe season
two of like like oz Corp is studying it or something.
Maybe they're using it for its power, but like not
necessarily full on on Peter, But that's probably what's gonna happen.
So I'm I'm torn because I like the way that
it was executed. But uh yeah too early.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, I was wrong. He was blinded by funny enough.
I don't think he's in the show, but the villain
that's in the Daredevil season four come up muse music
who blinded him? So yeah, I I'm not a fan
of Der Devil sidekicks, but I did like blind Spots.
So Finesse, I'm.
Speaker 1: I like the like reveal that that character was more
than just a regular character. And so another thing I
think the show is so good at is like combining
storylines with characters and just like like making even side
characters feel really important like to the overall story, the
way that like things just loop back around, just the
way that like the Interns actually had like use you know,
like like without them, they actually wouldn't have had this
massive portal, so like they weren't just characters for like
comedic relief when Peter would be in that zone, Like
they were doing stuff even when Peter wasn't around them.
So yeah, it's just great constructed season for me overall.
Speaker 2: And don't forget you had a Hulk in those Interns
as well.
Speaker 1: Show is he becomes Amideis Chow Really Yeah, it's funny,
the five point zero GPA.
Speaker 4: He had the legend himself.
Speaker 2: Someone searched up. It's like it's not incredible Hal, but
it's like the Amazing Hulk or the Outstanding Hulk. It's
some fucking nickname that he's different.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look at that.
Speaker 8: The absolute Superheropeian in American combooks name uh the Braun
Iron Spider Mastermind, Excello, Prince of Power.
Speaker 2: That's how we're going. Did you search Arma Dais.
Speaker 1: Shoe as Joe and then American just search Hulk.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking for. I don't know what else
to reading me.
Speaker 1: The Braun, He's the bron that's his name. He became
the Hulk for a time after absorbing bris Banners Gamme radiation,
and even though the classic Hulk is back in action,
Ama Das continues to fight for what's right in a
new role as Braun.
Speaker 2: Totally awesome, Hulk. That's what I was looking for.
Speaker 1: Not under the notable aliases.
Speaker 5: You simul land Oh, I would like to see it
just done differently. Like, don't get me wrong, if you
get the black Suit Spider Man, I'm totally okay with it.
I I'm a sucker for that, and I'm a sucker
for Venom. But at the end of the day, I
think this is a show where we've gotten so many
cool crossover mixed smash ups, just different things happening. So
throw that symbiod on. I don't know, Like I said, yeah,
Charlie Cox is Daredevil.
Speaker 2: Throw it on to.
Speaker 4: Anyone, Like take your pick.
Speaker 5: When we got that list of all those other characters,
I don't know all of the characters like from Webb
Harry's new organization, I don't know all of them, but
I know that there was Electro. I know there was
like Ned Leeds on there too. It's like, let's have
fun with it, let's get some.
Speaker 2: Crazy my boy Ned.
Speaker 5: I feel like we'll see it in season two, right, like,
at least this Ned will for sure, at least I.
Speaker 1: Put my mod on that we need to get Hobgoblin
back in the modern I feel like it's.
Speaker 2: Been too long and then Great Goblin like eight Villain.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'd put Hobgoblin an eightier.
Speaker 2: I would, but I don't think he is for the
general audience. I don't. I don't think.
Speaker 4: Look put some so high on my list.
Speaker 2: It's so fantastic, and it's a great break from I
think here because clearly they got Norman, they're going for
Green Golb. That's always been my pitch for MCUs. Okay,
if you don't want to do because William and they've
done it before, do fucking hobgob I know, case someone say, okay,
look at Ned Leeds, there's other Hobgobs you'll go to make.
And I don't want his friend to be hot. I
don't want that Ned to be hob gone. But there's yeah,
there's other versions.
Speaker 5: So uh yeah, just enclosing the Symbio planet thing that
was creeping through that was that was crazy.
Speaker 3: And doctor Strain's just like containing the creature.
Speaker 5: And like his portal prison and then just doing all
his magical spells and then creating that barrier and sitting
like his nuke and just exploding it inside of its own.
Speaker 4: Part of the galaxy.
Speaker 3: There's just so much of that fight was just fantastic.
Speaker 1: I really liked it.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think my heart stopped when the little
Simbio got snipped when the portal closed and it was
like flying forwards and you see a scene like Peter
lurching for I thought the thing's just gonna latch on
to him right away, but it didn't. So yeah, Norman
obviously found it as we saw, which is good. But
I'm just looking forward to seeing where they go with it.
Speaker 2: Or I wonder, because I'd be fine with this show
because it's just doing its own thing. I do wonder
if the other route, if they have Norman use it somehow,
and that's how we get to Ultimate Goblin, which is
Goblin as like a whole slider. So because they've not
really done like I think they're gonna maybe do that
in the the the Garfield one. They kind of have
to that they neard in the movies. I don't love
that type of goblin, but I could see them maybe
using some symbio for ultimate Goblin and then hey, maybe
that's how you get Chown there too. He can turn
the Hulk and then he's Mega Goblin. They fight, you know, so.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I don't know. Let's take her next to
that break right back, Okay, we are back. Anything else
we didn't mention on that little time travel sequence there
the Big I can't remember what they called it, better
than light speed travel following it when Doctor Strange and
Peter have like their little conversation.
Speaker 2: Really, I thought it was great.
Speaker 3: It was really cool seeing the two heroes working together.
Speaker 1: Really really love that.
Speaker 5: But I missed this at the first watch through and
caught it after the fact the watchers or did you
see that?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did you catch it off thea Did you
see an internet post about it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: It was internet posts. I went back and watched it ship.
Speaker 4: I feel like it was right in my face.
Speaker 3: It was pretty hard to her in the face.
Speaker 2: I feel like he was bigger than the X Men
when we got so. Yeah, it was there, but much
more bigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah. When I saw it, I'm like, it's so funny, Taylor.
I'm just so used to like your edits. As soon
as I saw it, I'm like, this is a Taylor Field.
And then I had to remind myself I was watching
off of Disney Plus when I look at your quality,
it was good.
Speaker 2: I have my answer. But if it's not enough for like,
what are they doing this a live actionally, I feel
like it's gonna happen soon, right, just send that watcher.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I do think it's gonna happen f four, hence why
I drafted them. Oh wait, is that that's a wat too?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So can I get that confirmed? That w'd be some
points for me, wouldn't have I think No, I think
it's he looks like a wat to.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure i'd give you.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, yeah, I'm gonna get that confirmed. But that's good.
But yeah, it's kind of funny because honestly, he still
has more Norman as his his mentor, but not really
now because at the end he decided he's gonna be
his own man, not so much because oh Norman's being
bad like he did say a little bit, but it's
not like o'norman's villain. I leave him just like he
didn't fully trust everything that's happening, so I got to
do my own thing. It felt like it was like
a probably he would view it as like a makeable split,
but I feel like just the way things have worked out,
it's only been two times, but it feels like doctor
Strange is more closer to them to kind of what
Tony was in the six one six or the Sacred timeline, right,
So it's kind of fun to have that flip where
Stranger and him eventually do get closer. So I will
be curious to see do we get Strange again? Does
he ever bump in Tony? I'll see caps on the run,
but I feel like there's they're trying to set some
sort of semi relation. Was Strange and if the simio
comes back into play, I could see Strange coming back
and more conversations. So I just felt like they're more
of the that's more the mentee you want to have
versus Norman.
Speaker 1: So absolutely I feel like the use of Strange like
I I don't need them like at the starting next
season or anything, like I don't even necessarily need him
next season, but like I like just the little drop
of wisdom that he gave to Peter, And honestly, just
like all of the little cameo I mean there haven't
been many, but like the Daredevil sequence with Peter.
Speaker 4: Obviously they clash, but I just love that dialogue.
Speaker 1: So I'm very intrigued on who they're gonna be, you know,
just just tossing in next season as well, like whether
it is Tony or as you already mentioned, Cap is
on the run, but maybe he'll run right into Peter.
Who knows. We got the Worldwide Engineering Brigade, which, uh,
you know that's really hype, Taylor, you mentioned a couple
of the names on there.
Speaker 4: I just don't understand the marketing of this.
Speaker 1: How he's supposed to like it's supposed to be Peter
Parker that's doing this, and then it's like they're just
like ripping off the Spider Man merch and uh, you know,
like just how is nobody gonna think about?
Speaker 2: You know, Like.
Speaker 1: Why I loved it as soon as I saw it
because when I was in Disneyland, as my hat is,
like that was the like the theme at the Avengers
campus for all the Spider Man stuff was the Worldwide
Engineering Brigade, So I'm like, man, I'm ahead of the curve.
I already got their merch and everything. This this is
fucking hype. So I'm just kind of intrigued on like
what the extent of what yeah, like what that is
gonna be if if it is just another oz Corp
type thing, not an evil menacine one, but just like
a place for science, and if they really go to
the details on like who's funniness and why and why
is it really to Spider Man and and like do
the people that work there know about Peter? I don't.
I would hope not. I like I like the crew
that we have right now, like especially just having Nico
knowledgeable of what's going on now, like she can help,
you know, cover for Peter as we saw when they're
doing the presentations, Like it's just a fun trio that
we have right now. So yeah, I'm just thinking about
where the web is gonna be, uh impacting Peter and
just just the overall storyline what's going on there, Like yeah,
how maybe they're gonna be designing suits now for like Peter.
I fucking love the suit that we have now the
classics suit. They did not disappoint. It looks so gorgeous.
Speaker 4: But yeah, just you know, he's always getting new tech.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't know how it's gonna play. And
for me, it felt like it was just to give
Harry something to do and to keep our characters, like
the interns around because they can't be a Norman obviously.
It feel like that gives us a lizard episode, right
because you got Connors bouncing around, so you got that.
I think Chow was in there for a reason. So
I think hulking, like some Hulk stuff will happen at
some point. So that's mayb where he could bring in
up Bruce Banner because there's sign stuff. I imagine he's
just bankrolling with his daddy's money somehow. I'm not sure
if Norman be like, stop doing that. But maybe Norman
might be impressed by like he's taken some sort of initiative,
right because he has because Harry's not in high school, right,
he's older than Peter Nico. He's older. So yeah, like
I think Norman might look at it as like, oh,
this is great, But also Norman might use as like
a way to still keep tabs on Peter and everybody,
like without Harry's knowledge though, right, like just a way
to like, oh, I'm just checking up my son's thing,
or like it doesn't feel weird that because it shouldn't
feel weird that Harry and Norman would be hanging out
because their father and son and they haven't had like
a breakup moment. Harry's jealous of him at times, but
I feel like that would stop a lot in season
two because Peter's no longer working with him side by side.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like it's just to keep some of those characters
busy and around, because if they just don't trust Norman,
they break off Win does Peter, c Connors and Chow
and even Harry again, right, Harry and we are friends now,
so you could do that. But I mean, like even
carrying that threat of the Norman Harry Peters storyline, I
think it's just to keep them all together. What they're
actually gonna do, I really don't know, I really I'm curious, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very interested, Like what like the Norman like inclusion
of because he's gonna be interacting with Peter in some way,
shape or form, but like Peter really you know, like
I don't know if I can trust that individual anymore.
But like Norman's also just you know, he's got a
silver tongue, Like I feel like he just he warms
up Peter's heart in a certain way that Peter puts
his guard down even though he does know that he
shouldn't trust him, Like he just went through a big
thing at the Ascorp Museum.
Speaker 5: Museum should have been a big red flag going to
the secret underground facility and seeing all the stuff. Doctor
Connors was even freaking out, like, yeah, I used your
technology to make a master torture device and we're gonna
use it right now.
Speaker 4: It's like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Can you even do this? Cool? Where do we go next?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, Nici Minoru.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll be interesting to have her on the
squad next. Sure, I actually sucking her mom, but I
think that's just a is her.
Speaker 4: Mom like a big combook character or anything.
Speaker 2: Her mom's actually a villain. So that's what's interesting because
that's she is a part of the com book The Runaways,
and that's what happens. There's a bunch of kids that
are friends, like growup together, but they find out that
their parents are like a Masters of Evil group in
the Marvel universe, Like they're all bad people so they
run away. So yeah, I'm not sure what they'll do
with that. They probably change that a little bit, but yeah,
I'll be curious. The only thing I just don't want
is because, like I said, if we got Connors and
show and we got her, I don't want to become
like Ultimate Spierman the TV show, not the com book
where it's Spider Man and his like mini Avengers. I
still primarily want to be Peter. So I'll accept Nico.
But that's where I just worry what There's other heroes around,
so I hope they just kind of get sprinkled and
we never get to a point where it's Peter and
the team. It's like I watch Spiderman Spiderman. If you
want to do a spin off of you know, Spider
Man as Friends or the Defenders, whatever, sure, but I
don't want there to be like a mini Avengers team.
But I'll be curious. And I'll be curious too when
she shares with Peter, because she gave Peter a bunch
of ship about human a secret. Obviously they figure that
all out. That's all good, but is she gonna be
telling him right away now that she's talking to her
mom has to be doing that the whole time. A
little hypocritical if uh, Peter about the line and she's
a fucking sorcerer. Or maybe that's where strange comes back in, right,
because maybe there's some stuff she can't control or do
and he's like, well, I know somebody that way.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I could see that being a plot point,
just the mother dynamic. Maybe she brings her back she's
fucking evil or something.
Speaker 2: My actual love of Norman, I must see him, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: She didn't look like it wasn't gonna save her when
that oscar bus was gonna be just splashing into her.
There Spider Man to save her.
Speaker 2: I think she's relatively new at this.
Speaker 4: I think the master very like ritualistic too, right.
Speaker 3: She held her amulet up hoping that would help.
Speaker 2: She did yeah before it. But it's kind of like
the earliest sage of Harry Potter, right where you gotta
flick and you gotta do, you gotta say it, where
when you're a better with you just just do it.
Your mind even to say.
Speaker 4: Like it's I think it's like the Dane cook skip.
Speaker 1: You know when you see a tire coming at you,
you just instinctively put your hand up, even though it's
not gonna do anything.
Speaker 2: No, she was dead that that didn't work and he
wasn't there.
Speaker 1: I love the moment though, when when he does save
her and then she like realizes, like what he like
what Spider Man the hero? Actually is their little uh
makeup there? I like to although like why do it
in the alley, like take his mask off? Like just
fucking people are walking right by, Like just zoom her
up to the roof, have this conversation the roof. But
what do you think?
Speaker 5: What do you think he's gonna stay on the phone
right before she got almost murdered because I felt like,
I feel like we're gonna get something like him saying
something else like oh, the relationship will be more.
Speaker 4: But where is this?
Speaker 5: When she was walking down the street, she was listening
to Peter's voicemail and it cut off. Oh before He's like,
I just really want to say, and then it cut
off and she screamed, And there.
Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna do this love story.
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be her and Harry, To be honest,
I feel like they got a lot pearl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, pearl called Peter Peter.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna be yeah smoosh, smoosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think she's kind of like the
Liz Allen where I don't think she's gonna be the
final of interest and I think you'll get an MJ
or Gwen Stacy or somebody. But yes, I think they're
gonna dabble in that. I think the reason they're going
to keep her around and be a love interest is
because that's gonna play in when Tombstone eventually makes the
villain swap and they can do some juicy stuff there,
you know, triangles in my life. Yeah, yeah, you fucked
my two month old girlfriend, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I I I really like what they're doing, Nico. I.
I like that character, like she's part of the team,
and I like that they didn't rush into the power,
uh said, I hear you're saying tres but like an
Avengers Spider Man team. I don't want that either, but
you know, just just Spider Man and then his friend
that's like a novice with magic, Like that's a fun
dynam like you know, like like she can do a
couple of things. Maybe by the end of season two
she's starting to really get stronger with the spells, and
then season three, four five, that's when she's you know,
popping off and just zapping people.
Speaker 2: Through a lots or we don't even know, could be
setting up for a villain's turn, right, we think, because
that's like the show we talk about does a lot
of different twists. Maybe it's like a one type of
version where some dark dabbles in some dark magic. This
mom she's talking to is not a real mom, and
I could easily see not saying a film that he
kills off and there villains forever, but something where it
could be villain is.
Speaker 1: So it's like the talk to Me plot line where
you think that you're talking to your mom and then
another spirit or something because.
Speaker 2: You never know, right, it's magic, don't fuck with it.
Speaker 1: Don't fuck with it. It's freaky. There's probably other things
that we haven't said, but just in my note, I
was really expecting an incret scene, and I was mostly
because I was really sure that we were gonna see
where that spider landed because an episode one and landed
on a backpack. I was bringing up Cindy Moon you know,
the great and powerful, but didn't get any It's just
like not necessarily that I'm upset. Maybe it gets Cindy
because I just think that character is awesome and I
want her in a Spider Man show for sure, so
cand of.
Speaker 2: Be perfect because it's supposed to be the same Peter,
the same not the same Peter that Peter, the same
Spider that Peter.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, exactly, and like that's what I thought,
Like in episode one, I was talking about that how
like that Spider land on that backpack, they really didn't
show who that was. So I thought since we were
getting like from the different perspective of that same shot,
I thought we were gonna see the person lifted up
and then I was just looking for a Cindy Moon character.
But they didn't even like address it at all, which
is like either kill the Spider or like answer what's
going on with it? Like I don't like that it's
just missing, like unaccounted for. And I guess next season
or a future season you could like bring back to
that like that was that same Spider. But yeah, I
just feel like they missed their uptunity to at least
show that it was going somewhere. It just seems like
they missed to talk about that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, what I think they could do is obviously they
did not do this minor suppose for the Captain America movie.
But I think we all knew this in the comics
when Red Hulk debuted for a while, they didn't say
who it was. It was just a mystery, and I
could see them do something like that with Silk. That
for it's a mysterious character and that's why they don't
want to show who it is, Like we obviously we
know right that as you're watching the show, it's like, Hey,
who's this other Spier person? They good, they bad, whatever,
and then you get to oh, it's a school plus
if it ends up being a love interest, they probably
what's her name again? I always forget the Tombstone's ex
girlfriend Pearl Pearl, Like, if they want to deal with that,
they might not want to have a love interest right
away if they want to go that route. So I
could see that being something they you know, maybe Silk's
around they revealed near the end, and then season three
you could maybe have them together. Obviously they're not gonna
be doing what they did in the comic panels of
these very vivid drawings, them just banging it out. But
I would like that if they that'd be my only
way because I agree with you that I feel like
it's a little odd that we don't circle back to it.
So if season one just or season two just opens
up with like, hey, I'm Silk and this is what happened,
I wouldn't like that. But if they were to play
it's kind of like a mystery, like hey, who picked
up the back back and you're kind of thinking like, hey,
who could it? Because they they'll change it. Maybe it
wouldn't be her, But yeah, that's my pitch, but I
think you'll get an answered. I don't think they did
that accidentally.
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised, So I like what you pitched there,
how like we meet that character and then once you
find out more about the character than they talk about that.
But yeah, I don't want it to just seem like
it was a mistake, like they're just so I forgot
to cover that, because that's just yeah, kind.
Speaker 2: Of like this season right, Like to us, the Doctor's
strange simult thing was just oh, doctor Straine's in a fight,
but then the finale revealed Oh there's way more to it.
It's the same thing of like we meet Silk and
then they then feel like, oh no, there's way more
to remember season one that Spider well, here you go.
Speaker 4: Shell for show.
Speaker 1: Anything we didn't talk about in either of the episode we.
Speaker 2: Talked about Richard Parker.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did not talk about Richard. Yes, Richie,
we got Dick Dick Parker in here.
Speaker 5: So this is like an Amazing Spider Man to deleted
scene come to life, right It very much is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dad is alive, but this time he's in
a prison. So that's a that's a lot different.
Speaker 3: Something to do with Spider Man, right there.
Speaker 1: I don't forget you, buddy, That's what May says to
him when Yeah, I mean at first I thought it
was like a ben or something, because I'm just so
not used to seeing Richard Parker like used other than
like flashbacks. I guess Amazing Spider Man kind of did
a little bit of stuff like that with yeah, just
him working with the Connors and and that stuff. But
I was just, yeah, I'm so not used to dealing
with Richard Parker, so I'm very i think just interested
in the dynamic of of Peter not only having a dad,
but like he's in prison for reason and like just
I don't know, you know, people get in prison for
various things, but just the way that he was like
talking to May and like carrying it, like carrying himself
in the conversation. I'm like, this guy's sus this guy,
this guy's done some crime and he's he's not upset
with his decisions or maybe maybe not. Maybe it's not
the best way to phrase, but yeah, I feel like
he's like a grimy guy at least for how that
scene which was played out.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, they got to meet at some point, right, Peter,
Peter and Richard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it's just a question of does one
does Peter know that he's in there, and it's just
kind of like, uh, you know, screwed aad, he's a criminal.
I don't talk to him, right or is it like, oh,
your dad's dead. I don't think they ever. I don't
did he ever say his parents were dead in this show?
Speaker 1: Like That's what I was trying to think about, because
I think he said he lost his parents or something,
because him and Harry are like talking about losing the mom. Yeah,
and then in that scene, I remember thinking that he
didn't like specifically say his parents. It's like, yeah, I
lost my mom too, so I was, but like I
also just it's probably just because Harry's talking about the
mom here, like that's probably what, but like, yeah, I
don't know, So yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm interested that dynamic. I'm interesting if there's anything May
meeting him, whether he thinks his dad's alive or whatever
situation for were to cause drama for May go there.
I think it gives more for me to do because
I don't think you need to have May in every episode.
But I think much like the MCU aunt May, and
this shows very she could also be dead, like that's why,
and knowing Homa is find them killing Ant make I'm like,
you guys really don't do anything with her. Same Withly
this show. They don't really do anything with ant May, right,
she just pops in every once in a while, So
this could give her some agency. Yeah, I'm curious. It's
I think he's alive with her once in a while
some stories, because sometimes they've been like spies, which I'm
not the biggest fan of, but I think they also
got to be careful to tiptoe, not just make him
like Peter's uncle Aaron, because that's the situation she could
get in too, right, where it's a loved one that's
a criminal. And that's because either way, there's been times
where it's like Spider Verse, where it's oh, he's a
he's a criminal, but he's meaning to do well in
a sympathetic character, and then there's times where it's like a, fuck, Miles,
I don't care about my nephew. So I saw this though, Okay,
interesting twist, but I want to see what it This
to me is definitely more about the follow up, because,
like I said, that comes into cause of course, yeah
it's not Uncle Aaron. But if you just do kind
of the same archetype, it might feel a little repetitive
because there's almost just so much they set up in
season two where it's like, I don't even know if
this is needed yet, right, So for me, it's a
wait and see, but thought, Okay, I think it's a
good hook to end on, and it's something that's like, okay,
a lot of theory crafting can happen, so I.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry ahead, fuck okay, uh say I saw something
online Some people were talking about maybe pairing the venom
with Richard Parker, like just having Oh, okay, I don't
know how that would like play out unless Norman is
just really conniving and like I don't know why he
would choose specifically Richard Parker to do that or like
how that would play out just because he is behind bars,
but I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's just a mistake, right, Like his dad gets out.
Speaker 4: He's in a church, Please God kill my son.
Speaker 5: I also read the possibility that like what if what
if he killed Peter's mom because you just get this,
you get this weird dialogue too, where he's like, how's
my son or something like that, like he's licking his
lips like a fixation on his kid and maybe, yeah,
maybe he did do something bad.
Speaker 2: Be interesting. I don't think they'll go that dark. I
don't think they'll have.
Speaker 1: My long legs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but interesting for sure.
Speaker 1: It's like is there Spider Man storylines where like Richard
Parker is just still a lot like I've just never.
Speaker 2: Seen this, Like I said, I think there there's times
where it's like him and his mom, it's one of
them or both of them are like am I sick
something something? And everything it's not.
Speaker 4: Like the like the whole time or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but nothing, nothing that I've ever glombed on too,
because same them. Like I just like his parents said.
As weird as it sounds, you know, so.
Speaker 1: It's simple. Yeah that's what I'm used to. Cool. Yeah,
I think I got kind of everything. Uh do you
think Osbourne's gonna make his army of spiders still? Like,
I know you kind of lost the main candidate, but
I imagine they would have had some data to I
don't know, make the spider bots.
Speaker 4: I remember that being like an arc.
Speaker 2: I could see that because if you get to Alister
Smite or something like that, there's the fucking spider slayers
and stuff. So like I could see there being still
an army of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like I don't love that storyline, so it didn't really
get too excited.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah cool. Yeah, No, I don't really have anything
else say.
Speaker 1: Oh, actually a couple of beautiful camera shots, specifically when
the the Scorpion fight was happening. There was one shot
where the camera was like at a window, Peter like
jumps to it and then like the claw comes at window,
breaks it, and just overall great design with the fight
scenes and everything they're Yeah, no, I just very visually pleasing,
and the scores phenomenal. I don't think I skipped a
single intro. The entire season just gets me so fucking
juice that that that like modern take on, like the
class like here comes to Spider Man like man. This
show is just so good. So I'm I hope they
don't really change it honestly in season two. I hope
that's just like the same theme. Overall. I like the
individual covers that they have, you know, every time, like
a unique comic book cover. So I fucking love the show, guys, overall,
I would start ten to ten perfect show for me.
Speaker 2: It's gonna start the lowest.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's too excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you jump right to ten of ten best and
the ends of show doesn't let anyone else rate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, folks. We all thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one more quick thing.
Speaker 5: I guess, uh that whiteboard with the names there's pim Labs,
Alkamax and Spider Woman, or if you're things.
Speaker 1: That are.
Speaker 4: Julie Cornwall.
Speaker 1: Out of here, it'd be uh, that's the other lady's name,
not that Julia Carpenter one. Drew Andrew Andrew.
Speaker 2: Because it's what is Jennifer. It's not Jeffer Carpenter.
Speaker 1: Right now, that's the Juliae Carpenter.
Speaker 2: Julie carper K, Jennifer Carpner's deb actress from Dexter's or something. Yeah,
too many cornwalls Carpenter's going on. Yeah they Well, we'll.
Speaker 1: Never talk about cornwalls again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm for now and eight point seventy five. I
don't think you just get tonight because like I said,
I think the first four episodes were a bit more
rockier for me than for you guys. That was the
time we're like okay. And maybe that's what I said
for now, because there's a show that I think I
probably will watch. All the girls loved it, so it's
a good time. So maybe it's not that Okay. I
got the whole story, you know, the time travel stuff,
but I think there's a couple episodes where it's like this.
I didn't love the first four, particularly the first three.
I thought, okay, sometimes maybe it was I don't even
want to say a little too kidty, but it just
didn't feel didn't hook me. I was not waiting to
come back later on where I think the middle portion
did a good job that I think maybe even you
could cut one episode for some setup and stuff, right
that even though they are only twenty minut episodes or
stuff like even the Oscar episode. For me, it's like
a lot of this was just kind of fine, right,
And it also is based upon we'll see what happens
down the road, right if they take time for me
to kind of mean and get to know cho But
we never really do with them anything with them that's
gonna hurt it or help it if they do some
of them, So I don't know that that's a tough
thing when it's a you know, this is definitely a
season where they they kill the threat of Scorpion and
even the symbiode, but does not feel like you could
stop watching the show and be fulfilled.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: It's one of those where it's like other seasons are
gonna raise or lower the show for me, But that's
where I am just under nine eight point seventy five.
Speaker 4: I feel close us out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go, uh probably eight point five out
of ten just because the I'm what.
Speaker 1: They put.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised. I thought I'd be lower than you.
Speaker 5: For me, it's just I mean, I could see myself
going a nine, but I thought, I think that's too generous.
The first few episodes, it really did not do a
great job for me, like pulling me in right away,
Like it took some time, and I think the first
week I was like, yeah, I was, I was warm,
but I wasn't necessarily super hot on it. And after
that then it was like, Okay, now we're in it. Now.
I really like what we're getting to where the finale was,
and I think in retrospect the finale makes the first
three episodes much better, but I would have liked it
that those first episodes were already better when I started.
Speaker 3: The show, right like so.
Speaker 5: So ultimately though, like I I know it's I say,
eight point five, but I love this show. It's fantastic,
it's great, and I'm eagerly waiting to rewatch it. I
was watching it with with my daughter and like she
was like the intro music and you're talking about Kirk
and now she's dancing to it and like she's loving
it and and all that. So I don't feel like
the show holds back necessarily too much either. When you
got like Spider Man being stabbed by Scorpion being rushed
to like yer, it's like holy shit, Like okay, so
they definitely take some risks here, and I'm excited to
see where this will go in season two.
Speaker 4: So bravo, kudos, beautiful.
Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, that's season one of your
friendly neighborhood. Spider Man. Will be back for next season
when we have a rough estimated time when they're no, I'm.
Speaker 2: Hoping next year, but a game with an animation, you
never know, like also the Vinci Bal I think ninety
seven's like twenty twenty six, so we could be waiting
to this. I don't know, but at least we got
something tangential with Like, you know, we're gonna talking about Daredevil.
He was in the show, so that starts in two weeks,
so kind of get some New York crime fighting fix,
you know. So it's like, I get kinkin in the
show and make them like not comedically like Spider Verse big,
but make them like no nineties animated show big, so
that there there's a want for me, Hobgoblin Kingpin.
Speaker 1: Get those guys in there so absolutely they would fit.
There's room for them. Let the show go on for
just infinite seasons. Let's let's go. That's the quality drops,
then yeah, pull the plug. Anyways, we got plenty of content.
Keep your eyes on the feeds until next time. We'll
be here and we'll see you.
Speaker 2: Bye.