1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another geek First review 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,039 episode for Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man. I am one 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,400 of your hosts, the Webster Kirkland Patzer. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm the Finesse Truss. 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 3: Now I'm the What a Show Taylor Field. 6 00:00:19,399 --> 00:00:20,039 Speaker 1: The what a Show? 7 00:00:20,039 --> 00:00:21,399 Speaker 4: Taylor Field, the Esley and gentlemen. 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: This is the final episode for season one of Your 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,760 Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man. And I say season one because 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,559 I there's a lot of you know, we'll talk spoilers, 11 00:00:31,559 --> 00:00:35,719 but like, man, I need more of this, but confirmed, 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,280 I yeah, I know, I'm just I'm just kidding. 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, before we get into that, just a couple 15 00:00:42,679 --> 00:00:45,719 of things to shout out here. We got tons of 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,679 content dropping right now. We got what other shows are 17 00:00:49,719 --> 00:00:52,399 we doing right now? We got Dexter finale coming up, 18 00:00:52,439 --> 00:00:56,280 and we got Daredevil gonna be starting up here. We're 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,840 getting close to the end of February, which means you know. 20 00:00:59,399 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: Dexter end already. You said it's coming up. The finale. 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,679 We did that last week. 22 00:01:03,159 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Remember, Oh my goodness, you you got me there? Yesney, 23 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:17,799 not a clip I was expecting to see in a 24 00:01:17,879 --> 00:01:21,079 Spider Man episode. But here we are, so yeah, but 25 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:24,159 I don't know, help me out, guys. What do we 26 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:24,959 got dropping right now? 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 4: We just did in originals for the patreons. 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll drop soon for the patrons once I edit that. 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,359 But yeah, that's a great show where we just talk 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,319 about random stuff, our lives, lots of good tangents. This 31 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:37,439 one of the big things I'll pump out right now 32 00:01:37,519 --> 00:01:39,400 is our Golden Geeks got marble Golden Geeks which is 33 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:42,280 dropped for public and Patreon feeds, and then the regular 34 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,159 Golden Geeks is on the Patroon one and then it 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,239 will be on the regular feeds soon. Very controversial. So 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,400 I think that is worth the price of coffee right there. 37 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:52,480 The five bucks, it gets you hundreds of hours exclusive 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,200 content with that right there. That's a already people are 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,719 talking about that one. But also to do a cheap 40 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:00,239 plug for me, I'm doing my Oscar predictions and if 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,560 you're into that, I'm doing that Sunday eleven am. And 42 00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:04,640 if you want to join, like last year, I'm gonna 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,400 finding the patron. So it's like after nine we're we 44 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:08,199 gonna drop a link and people be on there. We're 45 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:10,319 just gonna like we did with our Fantasy Draft. We're 46 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:11,800 gonna do a pool and the winner gets to pick 47 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,319 a movie. So if you like the Oscars, if your patron, 48 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,120 you want me come one, you want to talk and chat, 49 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,599 I'll be doing that Sunday and then yeah, you hit 50 00:02:18,599 --> 00:02:21,000 then album and then with Daredevil, me and Taylor got 51 00:02:21,039 --> 00:02:25,719 news come up as well. Weekly Geeka. Yeah, Weekly Geek, 52 00:02:25,759 --> 00:02:28,719 So that means you're gonna be a newscast well pretty 53 00:02:28,759 --> 00:02:30,080 much for the rest of the year now because there's 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,080 so much news and we kept messing with the reviews, 55 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,000 and Weekly Geek is always it's two of us, so 56 00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:36,360 you're always getting a different combination of geeks. We'll still 57 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,599 always do at least one episode a month of the 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,199 like even next week we got a Daredevil Predictions, all 59 00:02:41,199 --> 00:02:42,639 four of us. But Weekly Geek is to make sure 60 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,560 we're covering the news because even me and Tear the 61 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:47,240 topics we have right now just a boatload of stuff, 62 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,560 So a lot of things going on. 63 00:02:48,759 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: Kat Wait, yeah, you mentioned Patreon. That's the best way 64 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,560 to support us. You get everything early ad free. There's 65 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,680 this exclusive content out there. We've already talked about a 66 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,840 couple of things on there, you know, I heard through 67 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:02,840 the grapevine there might be the final Daredevil retrospective episode 68 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:05,080 dropping here pretty soon, so that'll be on the Patreon 69 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:09,120 right away and then to the main feeds before Daredevil 70 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:14,919 Born Again comes out. That's also what I heard through 71 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,240 the grape vine. But shouts out to our patron producers 72 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,280 the highest here. We got Aaron Braden, April Darkness, Jack Grant, 73 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:23,240 Sam Super Bad, Mike the Good God Loves Me sixt 74 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,400 you know, and Jeremy Renner and Charlie Randell. Thank you 75 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:29,439 to each and every one of you. Alrighty, I want 76 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:31,680 to get right into it because this is uh, well 77 00:03:32,039 --> 00:03:33,919 never mind, I guess we won't spoil anything yet, but 78 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,319 overall thoughts on the show, guys, it's it's over here. 79 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,439 I feel like this was a really fast show to 80 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:41,599 get through, even though you know, it wasn't like a 81 00:03:41,639 --> 00:03:45,280 six episode show or anything. First, like, what did you 82 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,080 think of the show, what do you think of the finale? 83 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,759 And what do you think about this formula for releasing 84 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,080 episodes this way, because it's like a little burst fire. 85 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:54,000 You know, it starts with two episodes and then three 86 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:57,599 episodes in between, and the finales another two episoder. I 87 00:03:57,639 --> 00:04:00,280 personally really really liked it, just because I was really 88 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,039 liking the show. And another show that I'd bring up 89 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,479 is like something like Creature Commandos, where I felt I 90 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,319 really like the show, but just having it only one 91 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:10,919 episode a week, like I was still there every week, 92 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,360 but I was just I think I didn't really have 93 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,520 a lot of hype because it would just take a 94 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,120 long time between episodes, like I do like it this 95 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:20,639 formula where I get three episodes, which is you know, 96 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:23,120 that's like an hour and a half movie essentially, but 97 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:25,480 and then I can just stew on that for for 98 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:27,879 a week and then come back. But yeah, wait what 99 00:04:27,879 --> 00:04:35,680 about you guys. 100 00:04:31,959 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, for me, the yeah, I the show 101 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:38,680 was absolutely. 102 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: Just in crowds a good thing. Yeah, holy shit, it was. 103 00:04:49,639 --> 00:04:53,439 Speaker 5: Just fantastic that when we get to this finale, unfreak unbelievable. 104 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: I was loving it. 105 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 5: And everything was just coming full circle, everything was expanding 106 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,399 and opening up at the end, and it was just 107 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:02,000 holy shit, I was, I was there, and I can't 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,920 wait to talk about one specific thing in that final episode. 109 00:05:05,959 --> 00:05:08,199 It was great, but just all these little easter eggs 110 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,120 and just things like you just you gotta pause, and 111 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,720 you got to look at this whole scene and like 112 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,720 take notes like oh man, I got a reference, like 113 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,240 look at what this is later, and just like going 114 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,600 to Google and just type in all these other things 115 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:20,399 like oh, this is going to lead to this and 116 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:21,040 this will be this. 117 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: Oh this is so cool. 118 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,879 Speaker 5: Like it just gets me super super pumped, And I'm 119 00:05:24,959 --> 00:05:28,519 very happy about that because when the show was announced 120 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:31,519 there was excitement, but when we actually started with that, okay, 121 00:05:31,639 --> 00:05:33,519 I'm not I wasn't super gung ho and getting into 122 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,399 the show right at the start, but it quickly, very 123 00:05:37,439 --> 00:05:39,399 quickly turned that around for me the more I watched it. 124 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:41,040 And so I've been recommending this show to everyone that 125 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:44,600 I bump into that you know, I know likes for 126 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:47,240 the most part, superhero stuff and telling I'm like, yeah, 127 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,240 give the show a try. 128 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:48,879 Speaker 3: It's awesome. 129 00:05:49,519 --> 00:05:51,879 Speaker 5: And even the animation that people were shitting on that 130 00:05:52,079 --> 00:05:54,480 completely goes out the windows so fast, the way that 131 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,240 this show uses that art style to have it where 132 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,000 all of a sudden they're fighting in the comic book 133 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:02,639 panels and then it like the attacks like move out 134 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,000 of the panels the borders and like jumps into another 135 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,480 frame of the comic book. There's just it's such quality 136 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,600 and I'm so very happy with this show. My god, 137 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,040 this is one of my favorite twenty twenty five projects 138 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,360 so far of the year. 139 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: N you others give me your top five? Yeah, I 140 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:24,560 got none. 141 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: Okay, Taylor, what do you think about the episode release? 142 00:06:27,879 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: Though? Like in two episodes and the three then three 143 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,279 this is perfect. 144 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,439 Speaker 5: I'm so like, I'm sad that it's done, but I'm 145 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,240 so happy that we're able to just go like two 146 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,279 back to back, three back to back kind of a thing. 147 00:06:38,079 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: It's just it was it was great. 148 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 5: It was great. 149 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:41,199 Speaker 1: Nice. 150 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:44,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm up too, Like I'll start there. I'm of 151 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:47,800 two minds of it because I think it's it's tricky 152 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,560 to the animation because you don't get the same audience, 153 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,439 so you're kind of home for that burst cluster, but 154 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,279 at the same point, you do risk the fact of 155 00:06:53,319 --> 00:06:55,000 it coming out so much and then people are like, oh, 156 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,240 I wanted to get to them, and then it just 157 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,879 goes in the back burn and you never get to that. 158 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,319 I think if I would have chosen, I would have 159 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:03,720 had Creature Commandos do the burst and this could have 160 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,399 been weekly, because I think this is like a much 161 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:07,959 better show than Creature Commandos. I think there's more times 162 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:10,560 where I felt satisfied and ended on a cliffhanger with 163 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:11,639 this show and be like, oh, I can't wait for 164 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:14,600 Creature Commands, Like oh, that's another like solid episode of 165 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:17,160 the Creatures, you know, like I there. I don't think 166 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:19,560 it because it's tricky because the way that format of 167 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,120 that show when it was like with the action, but 168 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,920 then all the flashbacks you never to me were left 169 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,319 too many times like I gotta see what's next a 170 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,160 few times with Spider Man, I think they had that. 171 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,759 But yeah, so I think they could do it again. 172 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,600 But I could see with the show having a bit 173 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,639 more hype, that they do it weekly next time. But 174 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,560 I think also goes into what they have right the 175 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,120 same way as Daredevil that release it has nine episodes, 176 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,839 but we're getting two weeks where there's two episodes, right, 177 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:46,120 just because they don't want to go with and or 178 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:48,399 so it literally could might not even be that where 179 00:07:48,399 --> 00:07:50,519 it's like, oh, we think this is best. It's also 180 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:53,439 just like what we got and or Daredevil, Iron Heart, 181 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:55,680 wonder Man, Marvel Zombies. It could just be a case 182 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,839 if they did this because like, well, we got too 183 00:07:57,879 --> 00:07:59,680 much shit right now, right, so let's see, I think 184 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,759 sees too they should because they said they got season 185 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:04,319 two done their animating and then and then you got 186 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:06,639 season three. What I would do, even though you guys 187 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,000 like it more, I would honestly do season two one 188 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,720 week and then you have two seasons of compare it 189 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:12,399 and c KA which worked better for you? Is like 190 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:15,839 a what? Like literally what streamed more? What got more? 191 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:19,800 Because this is obviously Kirkland still very far behind but invincible. 192 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,959 That was a huge complaint and I did kind of 193 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,600 kill the show where they did season two and they 194 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,240 did a halfway break and then came back months later, 195 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:28,600 and that just derailed all the height for the show. 196 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:30,079 And I don't think it's been like I think it 197 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,559 lost audience. It never been the same since, so you 198 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,240 do got to be tricky. But yeah, overall I think 199 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,600 the show, I don't think I'm I'm nowhere near as 200 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,240 strung as a is tailor. I don't think it's like like, sure, 201 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,600 I could say it's one of my favorite projects of 202 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:45,120 the year, but again it's in February, so I'm if 203 00:08:45,159 --> 00:08:47,519 the rest the MCU projects or Marvel projects are this 204 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,399 good that'd be great because Cap wasn't this, so I 205 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,080 would love it so death I could say, right now, 206 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,879 this is the one to beat, and I do you 207 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:56,919 think other than F four, I don't know what could 208 00:08:56,919 --> 00:08:59,360 beat it because all these other projects are very like 209 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:01,559 if you all. But yeah, I thought it was a 210 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,120 very solid, I'll say, very good final two episodes. I 211 00:09:06,159 --> 00:09:09,519 still think the middle season I liked the best. I 212 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:12,120 think the finale was good, but also was ton like 213 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,960 luckily ridden season two. But it was tons of setup, 214 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,519 almost so much set up that I thought you could 215 00:09:16,519 --> 00:09:19,639 have held some stuff back, like I love you know, 216 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,720 we're nonspoils, but someone get in the sidekicked. But at 217 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,559 the same time, it's like, is that really needed here? 218 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,120 But I think they're just trying to bank on Hey, 219 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:27,799 you've got to come back, so they're throwing everything to 220 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,440 the wall. So I thought the pacing was a bit off. 221 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,000 And I don't love the direction of one way we're 222 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:35,360 going for season two because I just feel like so 223 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:38,159 much Spider Man content is always about getting this certain 224 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,200 plot and it's like, Okay, I think we could take 225 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,120 a little break. I know Kirklan might disagree because he 226 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,519 is a poster of one of these things in his room. 227 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,840 But I just feel like, okay, like, let's take a 228 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,080 pause on this. There's other Spider Man stories we could 229 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,399 do here. But overall, very good. I think. Yeah, the 230 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,440 animation got better or was used better later on, and 231 00:09:56,759 --> 00:10:00,200 that suit looked fantastic. Love the animation looked fantastic. Fin 232 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,279 now had a very fun, clever, multiversal ish sort of thing. 233 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,759 I suppose Whatever's last two episodes, and I thought that 234 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,960 was fun. Yeah. No, I thought it was a very 235 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,639 good final two episodes and definitely left me one more. 236 00:10:12,639 --> 00:10:15,120 I'm excited to see where we go now. I hope 237 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,799 though with season two, I hope it is something where 238 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,559 is at least next year, because I don't know if 239 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,360 the show it has the hype. I don't know if 240 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,279 it has the same ninety seven hype where that's going 241 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,759 to come in and be like, oh people, no matter 242 00:10:25,759 --> 00:10:28,320 what watch it. I could see people not fall off. 243 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,639 But if you take too long, people do forget about things, right, 244 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,039 and you'll have Spider Verse coming back at some point 245 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,799 in the real life Spider Man. So yeah, I don't know, 246 00:10:36,879 --> 00:10:39,639 but yeah, very good show. I'll obviously save my score 247 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,720 to the end. But I'm happy it got better as 248 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,480 it went on for me. 249 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:50,879 Speaker 1: Nice, yeah, I uh. Overall for this season just stellar 250 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,159 for me, just absolutely stellar. I was so blown away 251 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,639 by these last two episodes. I really really I already 252 00:10:57,639 --> 00:11:00,919 talked about like the episode release format, but just kind 253 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,279 of the formula for how they told the season, Like 254 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:04,759 there is a lot of setup at the end for 255 00:11:04,799 --> 00:11:06,960 another season, but I just love the way that they 256 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:10,279 kind of tied up the knots for like the main plots. 257 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:13,120 You know that we're introduced here obviously, you know we're 258 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:16,559 still going on. It's not everything closed out here. A 259 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,200 lot of setup for sure in the finale, but I 260 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,399 felt like in the panel to an episode, it was 261 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,879 like the closing chapter for this season, and then and 262 00:11:22,919 --> 00:11:26,720 then the tenth episode being like the epilogue and like 263 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,919 like leading into the next Well I'll detail that when 264 00:11:28,919 --> 00:11:31,559 we get into spoilers, but I just I was able to, 265 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:34,639 like fully, I don't know, close close the book on 266 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,360 like the plot lines in the second last episode and 267 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:40,159 then in the finale, I was just I was just juicing. 268 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,600 You know. I sent you guys the Talladega Nights, you know, 269 00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:44,960 chick on the window. That's how I felt just watching 270 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,399 really both of these episodes, but honestly throughout the whole season, 271 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,159 I've never like made a tear list or like ranked 272 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,080 like my favorite like Spider Man storylines or anything like that, 273 00:11:55,159 --> 00:11:57,639 but like just just off the hop, I feel like 274 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,960 this is like top three, and like maybe that's being 275 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,360 a little too generous, but like, I was just so 276 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:06,559 in love with the way that they did certain characters, dynamics, 277 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,960 the setup of certain villains, and just the origins of 278 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:12,279 so many characters that like Nico and Peter is just 279 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,039 like friends. Is just such a great dynamic. I really 280 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,840 really like how it's they're not even trying to like 281 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,600 shoehorn like a like a romantic relationship that because that's 282 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:22,279 usually always what happens with Peter Parker. It's just they're 283 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,639 just buddies, you know, And like, I just really love 284 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,240 their chemistry. I like the Spider crew that we have 285 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,679 kind of just like Peter's guy in the chair, and 286 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,039 then just like the whole dynamic of balancing like the 287 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:34,960 friendly neighborhood aspect to it. I think the show does 288 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,320 a really good job at keeping it really grounded. Matt 289 00:12:37,399 --> 00:12:40,519 gargan Man as a villain like this is probably this 290 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,279 is probably like one of the best like versions of 291 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,559 Matt Gargan ever of like making him feel ferocious and 292 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,480 not just like like a fucking what he was and homecoming, 293 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,840 you know, where he's just like a goon. So I 294 00:12:55,279 --> 00:12:57,000 there's so many aspects of the show that I really 295 00:12:57,039 --> 00:13:00,720 really appreciate. I really really love and yeah, just the 296 00:13:00,759 --> 00:13:03,320 way that they're able to tell this season story I 297 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:09,039 was so so impressed by and it really really surpassed 298 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:13,159 my expectations for what I had going into it. And yeah, no, 299 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,480 I think it's so fantastic. I really love the animation, 300 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,759 really love the drawing style. I love like the modernness 301 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:23,480 on like the old sixties inspired like just drawing style, 302 00:13:23,639 --> 00:13:28,080 the comic book like just boxes. Like it's just just 303 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,799 such a fun show to watch. And yeah, I'm gonna 304 00:13:30,799 --> 00:13:33,960 be itching for the next season. I like the release format, 305 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,080 but it's also like, fuck, it just started. I feel like, 306 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,279 you know, just a couple of weeks ago. So yeah, no, 307 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:42,919 but I highly highly recommend this to everyone. Hopefully everybody 308 00:13:42,919 --> 00:13:44,639 just keeps watching the show and it just keeps doing 309 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,639 crazy numbers, because I just want to keep going down 310 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,080 this universe's storylines. 311 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: So I know you're spidy guys, so I'm sure I 312 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,440 know your answer. But if you had to rank this, 313 00:13:54,159 --> 00:13:56,679 ninety seven and Cape Crusader, what's your ranking those three? 314 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,879 Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a really that's a really spicy list because 315 00:14:00,879 --> 00:14:03,200 I was thinking about this and ninety seven and not 316 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,559 really about Cape Crusader. 317 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,759 Speaker 2: But that was just last year. Remember, Yeah, they did 318 00:14:06,759 --> 00:14:08,600 a binge drop, right, So it's so funny we got 319 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,039 different styles of like ninety seven was weekly, Capes was binge, 320 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,759 and then this was like a multi. 321 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: That's so tricky. 322 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: I uh, I might be lying myself here, but I 323 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,759 I would probably put ninety seven last, honestly. 324 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,279 Speaker 2: Wow, I know, yeah, jesuse I got nice just first. 325 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would. I think I would do. 326 00:14:27,799 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: Kay, Are you still need to get on the Cape 327 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,559 Crusader route next time you're Batman moved it's on Amazon. 328 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:32,200 Just put on. 329 00:14:32,519 --> 00:14:35,159 Speaker 1: They're all just like so there though, like like it's 330 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:37,919 it's tough to really differentiate them all. But yeah, I 331 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,360 have too much Spiderman properties in this room alone to 332 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,399 not put it at number one. 333 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: But uh so we both got Batman in the middle, 334 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,440 and then one and two are flipped or one and three. 335 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:49,279 Speaker 4: So yeah, because Cape Crusader is just so good. 336 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: Also, it's just a Batman ster like I always loved Batman, 337 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:54,559 but I feel like that just made me appreciate that 338 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:58,240 type of like I don't know, dark gratty animation style, 339 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,639 the noir aspects of the show. Everybody go watch that too, but. 340 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:03,159 Speaker 2: You watch it when you watch. 341 00:15:04,519 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: Oh, there's so much good stuff in there that you love, Taylor. 342 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,279 Speaker 3: I will make a point of seeing it, Kirk. 343 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: When you catch up on the vincipal. 344 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,639 Speaker 1: Let me finish Daredel and then we'll talk, all right, 345 00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:21,559 I cut priority list. Cool, all right, if there's nothing 346 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,720 less to be said, we're gonna skid out on over 347 00:15:23,799 --> 00:15:27,759 to the spoiler section. So we're gonna go through the 348 00:15:27,759 --> 00:15:37,200 the ad curtain. Here we'll be back. Okay, here we are. 349 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,320 Not if you're a patron. Patron, you know they go 350 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:45,279 right through that ad curtain. I'm not gonna promise you 351 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:46,559 get blowies if you joined the Patron. 352 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,039 Speaker 2: But there's some good. 353 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,639 Speaker 1: Let's talk money talks, all right. Where do you guys 354 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,360 want to start from? There's a lot of juice in 355 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,000 like the last finale episode. Do we want to wait 356 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,960 to get there because episode eight was heavy, but well 357 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:03,320 that's fine. 358 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna take us somewhere that wasn't there, so 359 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,840 maybe that was do it. But because you talk about 360 00:16:06,879 --> 00:16:09,360 in nonspoilers, I was mad. I was one episode off. 361 00:16:09,399 --> 00:16:12,080 A Scorpion did come back as that final boss, but 362 00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:14,679 he did get destroyed here, not destroyed, but he lost. 363 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,399 But I thought, I'm like, oh, my prophecy is right. 364 00:16:17,399 --> 00:16:20,919 Obviously they were doing some very different stuff for what 365 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,120 the actual finale was like with the time trial, so 366 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,840 that I had no idea, yeah, that was gonna go down, 367 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:28,960 which I do feel better because on the whole I hated. 368 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,000 The two things I hated was okay, it's all inspirement. Okay, 369 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,480 it's not that, and then when we got the pitch, 370 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:36,720 it's like, okay, Peter Parker gets bit by a multiverse spider. 371 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:39,080 It's like, oh, man, like I don't like this, and 372 00:16:39,159 --> 00:16:41,679 like it is a multiverse spider now, but it's not 373 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,159 like it's just like it's a time traveling spider. So 374 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,559 like there is some shenanigans, but it's still like from 375 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,519 our world in a sense. So I did end up 376 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:54,120 enjoying that where it kind of helped something down the line. 377 00:16:54,159 --> 00:16:56,879 But uh yeah, I was close with Scorpion. But great scene, 378 00:16:56,879 --> 00:16:59,440 like he said, he's intimidating, and great fight. See great 379 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,720 moments with the uh whatever they are, the Tens of 380 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,480 the Nines, whatever the hell they are, and then. 381 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,079 Speaker 4: The one tenth Street Gang. 382 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:07,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can't remember what the scorpions are or 383 00:17:07,759 --> 00:17:08,839 they just called scorpions. 384 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,519 Speaker 2: I think, think a bunch of scorpion tattoos something like that. 385 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:13,640 But then and then yeah, tombso agains some great moments 386 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,839 to shine. But uh yeah, so Scorpion was a big 387 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,680 shining point in here, and I wouldn't be opposed to 388 00:17:19,759 --> 00:17:22,319 him coming back next season, but I think with already 389 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:25,480 how busy we are, I don't foresee him coming back 390 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,400 right now because even stuff like last week we met 391 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,799 Chameleon right and it's like he didn't get beat. So 392 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,680 I think maybe he could come down the line, but 393 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,599 it might be hell, who knows, maybe we'll get a 394 00:17:33,599 --> 00:17:34,920 citisor six at some point too. 395 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,319 Speaker 1: So oh man, goosebumps, And like, I think that the 396 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,119 way that they handled him goes to show that like 397 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,880 they can take not I don't want to say a 398 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,240 lesser villain, but like like a lesser big bat. Yeah, 399 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,799 beat tier villain and like really stretch out for a season, 400 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,079 and like, man, imagine if the show just keeps going, 401 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,359 we get six seasons of this, you know, like they 402 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,519 come back to clash. I oh, I'm just juicing over 403 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:01,720 the possibly. But I love the look of his suit too, 404 00:18:01,839 --> 00:18:05,559 Like it looked very like Junkyard suit but also like 405 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,359 advanced tech. 406 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 4: Like I just I love the style and his attitude, 407 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:10,279 Like it. 408 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: Just felt like I was playing PS one Spider Man 409 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,240 again and just get my ass handed to me by 410 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,279 Scorpion because he's just so strong and I can't beat 411 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:19,240 the boss fight, like even even the way that he 412 00:18:19,319 --> 00:18:21,400 shocks him, like he'd like jumps out of the way 413 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:24,039 the stinger comes in, hits the lightning, and I'm like, man, 414 00:18:24,079 --> 00:18:26,039 this is literally like a boss battle. I'm pretty sure 415 00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:27,519 I fought the Hino like this in the PS one 416 00:18:27,559 --> 00:18:30,039 Spider Man game. So I just I love the combat 417 00:18:30,079 --> 00:18:33,240 in here, but specifically everything around Scorpion. It was. It 418 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:36,359 was so juicy and like you probably had Peter honestly 419 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,720 without Tombstone's help, like like he has he had the 420 00:18:40,759 --> 00:18:44,160 motivation to save Tombstone. Maybe I don't. I don't know, 421 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,759 but yeah, I think Scorpion would have had him without 422 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:47,440 the two fer. 423 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the whole fight scene was. It was 424 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,119 definitely an amp up from the last time they faced off. 425 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,200 But I liked I like getting to the point where 426 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,319 Peter was going to just fucking execute him. It was like, 427 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,480 this is holl And Spider Man dealing with Goblin, and I. 428 00:19:06,839 --> 00:19:11,599 Speaker 3: I one hundred percent, Oh yeah, I'd say one hundred percent. 429 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,279 Speaker 5: I was fully believing he was actually gonna kill him 430 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:16,400 because I thought this show is going to be I 431 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,759 thought the things the show, I thought, the things we've 432 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:23,440 seen in this show have just really felt like flipped 433 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,440 and with Tombstone kind of being like a hero, and 434 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,680 all of a sudden, I thought, man, this would be 435 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,519 crazy if they made Tombstone like a hero and the 436 00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:30,680 Spider Man like Burder's a guy, and then it's like 437 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,519 a redemption later on, like they can totally just turn 438 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:35,480 this into a crazy what if scenarios. 439 00:19:35,519 --> 00:19:37,519 Speaker 3: I really wasn't sure what. 440 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,799 Speaker 5: To expect, except for the fact that, man, I really 441 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:45,920 thought he was going to execute him. But yeah, especially 442 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,400 when you have Norman's like voice playing in his mind, 443 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:50,920 like at that scene like respect power. 444 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,279 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, Fuck, he's gonna he's gonna cross the line. 445 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: A lot of discord in the Spider Man fans because 446 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,880 obviously the Spider Man fans usually don't like when he's 447 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,960 killing kind of like Batman's. That would have been a 448 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:02,680 that would have been interesting to see if he accepted that. 449 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,559 Speaker 1: That's where I was at though, because like initially when 450 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:06,279 he was about to kill him, I just I really 451 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:07,119 didn't like it. 452 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 4: It just seems so rush. 453 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, this feels like a symbiote Spider Man thing, 454 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:12,720 you know, and it's really like multiplying his emotions and 455 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:17,319 just like really getting am angry but like it, and 456 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,720 like this is just very innocent young Peter. But then 457 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,480 I'm thinking about like those versions that I'm used to 458 00:20:22,519 --> 00:20:25,839 seeing where like the symbiote tweaks him, but he's like 459 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,160 super super good before then, like he it doesn't seem 460 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,200 like he's really had like the same maybe important talks 461 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,559 with someone like a Ben Parker, like especially thinking about 462 00:20:35,599 --> 00:20:38,000 like the great power comes with great responsibility, like think 463 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,319 about this the same He's the same the Sam Raimie. 464 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:47,039 I'm gonna use that actually the same Spider verse where 465 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:51,319 like I feel like when Peter is having issues about 466 00:20:51,759 --> 00:20:53,680 I don't know, just hero stuff, like he just thinks 467 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,039 back to like that quote or that line or that 468 00:20:56,079 --> 00:21:00,319 conversation or that whatever it was, and the same it 469 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,400 would be uh a, Ben Parker. You know, great park come, 470 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,480 great responsibility. But this Peter definitely didn't get those same 471 00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:07,839 types of things. If the first instance he's getting of 472 00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:09,519 a quote like that is from normal I was born 473 00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:12,680 with great Parker's great respect, Like fucking murder that man, 474 00:21:12,799 --> 00:21:16,240 you know, like make him bleed, Definitely his psyche would 475 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:18,799 be a little bit different, right, So I was just 476 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:21,480 thinking about that afterwards, and it definitely helped me pallette 477 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,039 that situation because initially I'm like, this is just this 478 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,799 is too far off the line, like like come on friend, 479 00:21:26,839 --> 00:21:27,880 neighborood Spider Man. 480 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: Like there's you know, it doesn't matter, there's still good personal. 481 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,599 Speaker 1: Well, no Tombstone stopped it. He was gonna do it 482 00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:37,960 if Tombstone didn't, I think so I think he would have. 483 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 6: I think he would have, yeah, because I saw people 484 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,599 making the comparisons to No Way Home the same way 485 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,359 Maguire stops Holland, So I guess yeah, he he could have, 486 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,799 but hopefully it's the same way as like I guess 487 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:53,799 in my mind he have done it. 488 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:56,279 Speaker 2: It's kind of like how you know Toby, he refers 489 00:21:56,319 --> 00:21:58,759 back to when he killed He didn't really kill him, 490 00:21:58,759 --> 00:22:01,279 but he did kill him like Ben Parker's murder. Remember, 491 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:03,039 he's like in no way home. He's like, I want 492 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,599 him dead, and I got what I wanted, so well 493 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,960 he tripped and fell through it. But still they chalked 494 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,079 it up as like, well, Peter murdered that dude, right, 495 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,799 But then like after that, Peter was okay. He wasn't 496 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,240 like a fucking murder or anything like that. So, yeah, 497 00:22:15,279 --> 00:22:17,359 you're right, he did stop it. But I think the 498 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,119 way he carried himself and talked after, and the way 499 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,240 he kind of had that conversation with Norman and Norman's 500 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:25,880 just not gas lighting him, just a complete fake person 501 00:22:26,599 --> 00:22:29,279 to me at least showed that maybe, right, that's something 502 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:31,000 in the split decision. But I also think if he 503 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,680 would have done it, he maybe would have regretted it 504 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:34,160 right away, and that would have been a moment that 505 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,599 would get him on that track, you know, So that 506 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:38,480 that's the other way I took it too, But you're right, 507 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,799 which is gonna be interesting for for Tombstone because and 508 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:45,240 then the show we see him he's left his jacket, 509 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,480 he got whatever something in that that truck. I don't 510 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,599 know what it was, but that. 511 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: Gas is the Tombstone juice. 512 00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:56,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that's what I was officially 513 00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:59,279 listed as in the market, but the Tombstone juice. But yeah, 514 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:02,359 he got super strong stuff. But yeah, his skin starting appeal. 515 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,240 You can see that white skin under there, So I'm 516 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:07,680 interested in this route of like, hey, do we have 517 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:10,680 him be like is that the descent of you see 518 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,839 this guy who stopped Peter and then at some point 519 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,720 he goes down a dark alley or is he going 520 00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:16,839 to be kind of like how sometimes Kingpin is the 521 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,880 daredevil right where he's like a criminal, but his pitch 522 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,519 is always like, well, like I'm gonna be the right 523 00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:23,599 type of criminal that does this, this and this, and 524 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,480 I'm better for the city. Like that's I'm I'm excited 525 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,559 and interesting where Tombstone goes because really he should have 526 00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:31,480 took that from Beer. And then he just kills Scorpion 527 00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:33,640 right and he's just like, yeah, I'm the fucking man now, 528 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,079 But he still is like, you know, I want to 529 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:39,119 say hero, but he was he wasn't a bad guy, 530 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,279 I don't think too. So, yeah, a criminal, but now 531 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:43,759 he's leading the organization too, so I don't know. It's 532 00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:44,720 interesting with him. 533 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: So and definitely not the way that we predicted, Like 534 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,839 we kind of had some different predictions. 535 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,599 Speaker 4: I assumed it was going to be Don dies. 536 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: Or something, and that's how he picks up the mantle. 537 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,400 I think you said you thought he was gonna maybe 538 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,480 kill Don, just like thoughts on him. 539 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: Don just ran away like a little bit, just a 540 00:23:58,039 --> 00:23:58,480 little bit. 541 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, never liked character. 542 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:05,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that's what makes me think that they 543 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,119 might do the more King finish where he is a 544 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,359 bad guy, but he's never gonna be like and I'll 545 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,079 fucking kill ant may like I don't. I don't think so. 546 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,559 I think he'll be a criminal but not a villain, 547 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:16,599 if you get my dripped. 548 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: That's why I'm so glad that like it didn't really 549 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,880 happen this season where he is a bad like an 550 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,519 evil guy, like like there's some changes behavior for sure, 551 00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:26,759 you're starting to turn to the gang life, but like 552 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,839 at the end, he's like partnering up with Spider, man, like, 553 00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:30,640 don't worry, I got your back. They're like fist bumping, 554 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,839 Like I just fucking love that sequence, Like that was awesome. 555 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,559 I'm so glad he didn't come out of that truck. 556 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:38,880 And it's just like he's he's a mad, mad evil 557 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,480 guy now because the Gayla Spider Man. Yeah, or like 558 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,359 maybe the gas just tweaks his brain and now he's 559 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,680 like a maniac. Like I'm so glad it wasn't that fast, 560 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,519 you know, like we have some. 561 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 4: Time to speak. 562 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:57,599 Speaker 1: Ha isn't that right? Brother? And like who knows, maybe 563 00:24:57,599 --> 00:24:59,519 we have a time skip from season one to season two, 564 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:01,480 so we jump. He's got a lot more patches, and 565 00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:03,799 he's just getting more into the crime scene, like he's 566 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:05,799 he's clearly fitting in there. 567 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 4: He's the leader now, like he's found his family, and 568 00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:09,039 I just I. 569 00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: Just feel like initially in early portions of the season, 570 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,519 when he was starting to turn to the one tenth Gang, 571 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,400 it felt so early for me to like to just 572 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,920 trust that like the motivation of the bind would be there, 573 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,200 because it's just that's not what was shown here. But 574 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,480 then as the season went on, like you know, maybe 575 00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:27,000 he was just really putting on all these these acts 576 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:28,720 because he feels like that's the role he needs to do, 577 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:30,759 whereas here he can be more of himself and it 578 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:32,319 just feels a little bit more natural. I don't know, 579 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:33,880 I'm just a little bit more warm to the idea. 580 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,240 But I did not expect Donovan to just run away 581 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:38,400 like that. Initially, I'm like, that is so fucking stupid, 582 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,720 this guy that's supposed to be But like, I don't know, 583 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,480 maybe it fits like he's never seen someone like this before, right, 584 00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:47,640 Like he's only ever seen regular gangs, not like powers 585 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,039 and like. 586 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 4: The play where he's about to lose his life. 587 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: I did. I did appreciate though, and like, you know, 588 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,039 not a fan of you know, don't don't, don't push 589 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,920 for gang violence or anything, but I like that just 590 00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,200 a hand to hand combat in these gang fight scenes, 591 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,240 like fuck guns these days, man, Like, let's just let's 592 00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:07,680 just brawl it out with some fucking pipes and fisty cups. 593 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 7: So we do we have a prom first, we don't 594 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,200 out the window when the moment the guy with the 595 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:20,319 fucking naked gamma fueled scorpion tail walks in and still like, oh. 596 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, well they still the one tenth still think so 597 00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:25,079 they can do this big dons like let's get them 598 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,200 like and we already know this is gonna play out, 599 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,640 like god damn yes, I'm what was I gonna say, 600 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:39,039 um about Tombstone talking about Yeah, how long do you 601 00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:41,440 think Tombstone can ride that trend with his parents, like, oh, 602 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,359 I'm going to school, get my ged, Yeah, I got 603 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,680 tests like I love you too, Like that's not gonna last. 604 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:50,559 Speaker 2: The skin is kind of going. They're gonna have some 605 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,960 questions right like, oh n, they want to get them 606 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,279 mat like checked out. Like I don't think long next 607 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,000 well season. 608 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,759 Speaker 1: If he's taking his GED's like done high school, so 609 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,519 I imagine he's just gonna be like, yeah, like moving 610 00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:04,240 on his life. He's an adult now, he's gonna move 611 00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:05,640 out of the house and just go that way, Like 612 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,079 he's just gonna be probably living with the gang if 613 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:09,160 he's looking for them. 614 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 5: That's where if he's gonna ditch his parents, I think 615 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,319 he's gonna be leaning one to that mentality that you 616 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:16,359 were talking about earlier, which he thought. 617 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't have it. 618 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 5: When he gets out of the van and he's just 619 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,720 like fuck Spider Man, like that anger, that insanity. 620 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: Canna finish high school, though I think he's just lying. 621 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,519 Speaker 2: He's not because to me, I took it as his 622 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,160 jack in the garbage was like he ain't going back, 623 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,000 like to even finish high school. So that's where it's like, 624 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,359 I don't know what's gonna happen, Like what's gonna happen 625 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,400 come graduation day and their son's not there. 626 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: I just assumed he was smart enough that he could 627 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,880 like pass the GED like Barri just take the test, 628 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,680 not necessarily study. But you're like you said, no reason 629 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,000 to even go take the test if he's just going 630 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:48,000 full gangster. 631 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,519 Speaker 2: I guess he doesn't. He could say doesn't want to 632 00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:51,880 go graduation too great, he says he's done high school 633 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,000 and stuff and everything, So I get there's there's ways 634 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,519 around it, so it will be, Yeah, it's gonna be 635 00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:58,799 interesting saying of his brother and stuff, but also too 636 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,519 like it we got the fuck Spider Man. But they 637 00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:04,599 could do that down the line, that that gas hurts 638 00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:06,559 some more and more like a goblin thing. Right, it 639 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,240 could be that he starts to lose himself so as 640 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,119 of right now just powers and skin, But it could 641 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,799 be like it's deteriorating his mind. So there's well, that's 642 00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:15,400 I love. There's multiple routes, and like I said, i'd 643 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,160 maybe like them to go a different route other than 644 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,200 fuck Spider Man, because I feel like we're gonna get 645 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,559 that with Norman, right, He's gonna take a serum and 646 00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,200 then he's gonna turn into the Goblin. Right, So I 647 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,839 feel like if Tombstone does that, you might be kind 648 00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:27,759 of repetitive. And I feel like this show so far 649 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,680 is done. They get on the classic line, but then 650 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,200 do some twist along the way. If it's just he 651 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,200 becomes a guy that hates Spider Man's like, well, other 652 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,440 than him knowing Peter, that's not much of a twist, right, 653 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,279 It's Tombstone's a criminal that doesn't like Spider Man. We've 654 00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,160 ended up at the same point, right, And I feel 655 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,400 like Goblin is the same one that we all think, yeah, 656 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:47,720 do that. But I'd be fine if they did some 657 00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:50,200 new stuff, you know, again, if he was like I 658 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,720 don't know if there's even a way to get him 659 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,119 on the crime fighting side at some point, right, I 660 00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:57,319 don't know, Like Norman, no, No, Tombstone not normal. I 661 00:28:57,359 --> 00:28:59,880 think Ormand's far gone. I yeah, because with Norman that 662 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,839 That's what was interesting in this to me, Like we 663 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,839 talked about like he is bad but still like there's 664 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:07,039 different versions, and it's like is it a level of 665 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,640 is he a villain or is he try and do 666 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,960 good but bad things? That whole conversation with doc Owk 667 00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:13,880 was like, Oh no, he's still just a fucking piece 668 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,480 of shit. Like I feel like he's even more evil 669 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,359 than like even I make the case for like Dafoe's 670 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,559 Norman at times he's trying to do the right thing 671 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,279 right and he goes about it wrong. But now this 672 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,839 conversations doc Awk, I was like, oh no, I don't 673 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,200 even know if he's trying to do the right thing 674 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,559 at all. 675 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:32,519 Speaker 1: Really, especially with Norman, he he like okay, questionable methods sometimes, 676 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:34,480 but like he really wasn't an evil guy until he 677 00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,799 took the seer Um right and really was so. 678 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,119 Speaker 2: Prick right, he was just like, yeah, that's and obviously 679 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,319 with that's kind of the same thing if you look 680 00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:45,440 at Amazing Spider Man, like the movie and like the 681 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,400 comics are kind of all over like sometimes they are 682 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,119 Norman's a bad guy and God's the worst guy, or 683 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,559 it is Norman's a you know, regular father figure try 684 00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:57,319 and do good but you know, asshole but then evil 685 00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,440 And I I think there's good versions of bo because 686 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,319 I do, like I like the nice Dafoe, but I 687 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:05,640 also love the pitch that people say, like green Gold 688 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,720 is like Lex Luthor and the Joke are put together, 689 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:10,920 which is very fun. So it's kind of depends. But yeah, 690 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,519 here I think he's just a bad guy now. 691 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:16,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, like the fact that he's been playing like 692 00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:19,519 just this whole thing out right from the beginning, Like 693 00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:22,519 he got all these interns, not just Peter, all these 694 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:27,799 interns to like make this fucking super teleportation device thing 695 00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:30,640 that he has, Like like he's just playing everyone all 696 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,799 the time, and I just feel like that sinister. I 697 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,839 guess it's not necessarily sinister, but like for him, it's sinister, 698 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,279 Like he's just he's just always planning and like just 699 00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:42,000 trying to get that ultimate power right and just not 700 00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:45,519 being truthful and trusting. Like that's where this Norman versus 701 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:49,319 like a Dafoe Norman, you know, pre back to formula. 702 00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:52,839 I definitely think this one's a lot more evil. If 703 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,480 we were to put that, he's way more evil. 704 00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 5: I mean, he's harvested Peter's blood and is creating an 705 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,759 army as Spider Man. 706 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, probably into all the samples. 707 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,039 Speaker 2: Know how you got that scurfy a syringe. Yeah, so 708 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:10,400 I didn't know that could work. You just just stick 709 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,279 it in there right in the I forgot about the blood. 710 00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:15,440 That's another big no no, because that's like against your 711 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,319 will sort of stuff. 712 00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 5: So that's yeah, it would time out with when he 713 00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:21,480 got his scorpion fight, right, and they got all that 714 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,839 blood from him from his injuries, and they would have 715 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,079 been on file. But I'm curious about that when again 716 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:30,960 to time travel that the paradox of that, So like 717 00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:35,799 Spider Man is with Doctor Strange and the Spider with 718 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Peter's DNA drops the portal and then bites Peter. So 719 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,559 that would mean that blood is harvested from Spider Man Peter, 720 00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:46,440 but that means it has to start from a non 721 00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:48,920 Spider like it starts from a Spider Man Peter at some. 722 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: Point in history. 723 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 5: But then that Peter would not have been bitten by 724 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,039 the Spider because it had to have been. 725 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, I got really hyped on just the 726 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,160 way things were playing out. Because as soon as Doctor 727 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,279 Strange is like I don't know, Like I don't I 728 00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:06,799 wasn't there, and then I'm like putting it together. I'm like, 729 00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:08,839 oh my god, that doesn't happen yet, Like we're going 730 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,920 back to formula here, We're going back there. Like I 731 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,920 was just juice and I was getting goosebumps. I was 732 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,759 just loving the fight scene and everything. It was so 733 00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,440 visually pleasing, and then like that's when I started thinking 734 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,000 about it, where I'm like, well, this is the same 735 00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:22,400 fucking Spider that like he wouldn't have gotten the blood 736 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,319 if he didn't go through this event already. So then 737 00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:26,759 I just chose to just a but it's like a 738 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:29,960 back think about it too much, because yeah, it's like 739 00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:31,680 I think the best way to explain it would be 740 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,039 it's like a timeline. That's just it. It's like a ruler, 741 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,319 and then you're like here on the ruler, and then 742 00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:40,079 all of a sudden, like this portion of the rule 743 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,279 it's still there, like it is a line. 744 00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 4: They're just accessing it. 745 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,519 Speaker 1: So I don't really love time travel explained that way 746 00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:50,000 typically because I just don't necessarily love the idea of 747 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:53,000 just everything's planned out already, like it's just it's happening 748 00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:55,920 whether you like it or not, Like the book is 749 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,680 written like it's just those what that's what happens there 750 00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:00,759 just kind of I don't know, taps the free will 751 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,480 topic maybe, but here I think it was just I 752 00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:06,480 love the way that it played out, Like I really 753 00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:08,880 love the full circle moment. Going back to episode one, 754 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,839 it was just it was so well done, and like 755 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,519 I said, like came after the penultimate episode, so like 756 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,880 we closed the Matt Gargain threat and like just the 757 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,519 one tense stuff and then here it's just a it's 758 00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:21,880 just like I wasn't even expecting this type of adventure. 759 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,960 Norman just takes us to this back room and it's 760 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000 just like, yeah, and I took your device and this device, 761 00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:28,960 and I just made the Infinity Gauntlet more or less 762 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,039 for time travel, and it was just, yeah, doctor Strange, 763 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:34,920 show up. I was feasting on all of the setup 764 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,000 that I really wasn't bothered by the uh the time 765 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:41,000 travel thing, and I just chose to look past it, 766 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:43,720 not dissect it too much because you know, oh, it's took. 767 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,319 At the endgame review, we spend a lot of time 768 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:46,160 talking about that stuff. 769 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: People don't me. I don't give a shit about the 770 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,319 time travel. It's just like it's we're in a world 771 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,240 with like wizards and symbios. It's like, however it works, 772 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,400 it works at some point. That's how it started. I 773 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,519 again with the Norther thing, I really enjoyed in front 774 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:03,880 of everybody, when doctor Strange is there, he's like, motherfucker him, 775 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,400 and he's like being the good guy babyface, like we 776 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,280 had clean after your messes and we don't know what 777 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,239 you do and everything like that. So again in the public, 778 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,119 still seems like that great guy trying to do good 779 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,519 right and even then, like he had that phone conversation 780 00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,239 with Peter, Peter does tell him to go and he goes, 781 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,199 Like at no point in that scene was normally like 782 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,480 and fuck you Peter, like forgetting the way he's still 783 00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:25,840 want to fucking kill you. Yeah. Yeah, he still played 784 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,559 his role very well, So I think that was smart. 785 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,679 And uh yeah, that was the only thing where I 786 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,679 liked the idea. I thought some of the great animation 787 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,760 was or I thought the animation was great when they 788 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,599 were in space and go to all this stuff. My 789 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,239 only handt was I just I just don't need the 790 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,239 symbiote right now, and I just feel like I feels 791 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,440 like it's an exact Obviously, the stories are very different, right, 792 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:48,800 but my sport is for you, Taylor. But it's the 793 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,960 exact trajectory that the video games are on right now, 794 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,239 where first game is Peter's Adventure, second game Symbiot, and 795 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,719 that's leading to Goblin, right, That's exactly what we're doing here, 796 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,559 where I don't think we had Green Golb. Next one, 797 00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:01,039 it's gonna be some Symbiote, and then it's gonna be 798 00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:05,320 Storm and Norman for three. My counterpoint is, at least 799 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,159 they've been doing things differently enough. I'm like, Okay, I'll 800 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:10,159 give it a shot. But it's not like I'm over 801 00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:13,000 the Symbio. But between the games and vandom everything, and 802 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,039 just because it's just it's happened a lot. Like I 803 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,639 was kind of hoping they'd go somewhere else as like 804 00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:19,920 the Big Threat maybe next year, you know, because I'm 805 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,800 like like stuff, like like you said, Scorpion becoming maybe 806 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,599 like more an eight here in the show. Do that 807 00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:27,800 with somebody else. Get Shocker in there, get Chameleon, even Vulture, 808 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,079 you know. But then I's already on that, like yeah, fuck, 809 00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:33,760 give me a great round. But like thenams all in 810 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,559 that a t already right, It's like you don't need to. 811 00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,599 Speaker 4: Like so yeah, movies, he's got movies. 812 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,679 Speaker 2: Tobs is that it's him, Doc Hawk and Golm. I'm 813 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,559 a Golm guy. I think he's the top marvel one. 814 00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:46,719 But still like for me, it's like, I don't I 815 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,639 don't know if I need Venom right away, so I'll 816 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:51,079 give them benefit doubt because they've done great spins with 817 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,760 this show, but it's just I hope it's not like, 818 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,280 oh and here's my friend Andy Brock and it's like like, 819 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,760 I I hope it's something different. And even though it's 820 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,280 like I don't want to be hairy because we're getting 821 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,320 then the Games and we got them the Ultimate Universe, 822 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,559 like that's where I just don't know what route they're 823 00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:06,960 gonna go, so I'll wait and see. But I was 824 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,079 a little like, Okay, I don't need Simio directly right now, so. 825 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,679 Speaker 4: They've had zero set up to it. 826 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,039 Speaker 1: But I feel like a perfect villain to have in 827 00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:18,880 the show because it would just fit so well. 828 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 4: Is a mysterio. 829 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: I just feel like they could do so much fun 830 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,840 stuff with a mysterious storyline and just nothing set up 831 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,320 that way, so I really don't think it's gonna happen 832 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,119 at least next season. 833 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 2: But Craven still not seeing the movie, but one of 834 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,679 those people that need But again, they just did in 835 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,480 the game too, right, So that's everything. I hope it's 836 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,519 not that. I hope it's not. Mister Neggat would fit 837 00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:44,280 perfectly in the show, and I feel like the animation 838 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,599 would be fire, absolutely fire. 839 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, no, absolutely, they could play around some 840 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,440 fun stuff there. 841 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 2: No. 842 00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: I I'm a little I'm a little in the middle 843 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,880 for the Venom stuff because I really like the initial setup. 844 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,920 Like an episode one, I'm like, wow, it's nice. It's 845 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,800 not Venom. You know, it's like a symbiote, but it 846 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,280 like it's it looks like a saber tooth thing, like 847 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,559 he's got like the fur coat with like some mandibles. 848 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,920 It's just a very different style of a of a 849 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,199 symbiotic creature, even though you know it looks like Venom. 850 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,119 And then when they had the portal, I was all 851 00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:17,840 over it. I'm like, I love that this is just 852 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,159 like a space Venom entity that's not. Yeah, I'm glad 853 00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:23,920 it wasn't. No, Like like it's like let's just have 854 00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,239 this like black gooey thing with a with a scary 855 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,280 face and space and it's just it like reabsorbs itself, 856 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,320 like it's just this thing. 857 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: Eventually that that was looking like a symble planet and 858 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,119 they threw him back. That was like, oh, and I 859 00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:37,519 don't know if I need no on the show because 860 00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:39,320 like he's could be more serious, but that was a 861 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,159 big time simul planet that. 862 00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I didn't really I'll have to pull 863 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,519 up the episode. I didn't really stare too long at 864 00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:48,639 the planet itself. I just they shot out and then 865 00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:49,679 I just saw a space. 866 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:53,039 Speaker 2: When they throw them back there it is like a 867 00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:54,960 moon or some below them. So I would just assume 868 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,559 it's okay, that is some sort of planet. But it's 869 00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:00,320 kind of funny, like obviously probably know who. But with 870 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,760 this and Bamman Kate Crusader, they do that thing where 871 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,800 it's like, oh, we we didn't touch that villain, but 872 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,280 in season two, we're gonna do that. And I don't 873 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,599 know if ninety seven, I can't remember if ninety seven 874 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,960 alluded to anybody that was big. But so again I 875 00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:16,039 get it right because that's it's it's a good go 876 00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:16,800 to first Spider. 877 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: It's a great talking point right to end the season 878 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,880 that way, like people are just holy fuck, He's kind 879 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,400 of it's the same thing that you already talked about 880 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,440 the PS four video game, Like the way that that 881 00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:26,079 was just had people buzzing and talking. 882 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 4: Can wait about the playing the Venom? 883 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,039 Speaker 2: And I just don't want I don't know if I 884 00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,559 need another more so than the Eddie Brock or sim 885 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,039 I just don't need another, Like Peter Parker goes bad 886 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:38,199 thing right now because I'm enjoying this Peter. So it's 887 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,960 like line So that's where I'm hoping maybe someone else 888 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,760 gets it, you know. 889 00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:44,079 Speaker 1: That's where I'm right there with you on like the 890 00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:47,719 Venom hold Back. It is like just what it would do, 891 00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:50,760 like to change Peter and the dynamic of his friends, 892 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,400 Like it's just like, man, like, I feel like we 893 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,000 go Harry the girl. 894 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,039 Speaker 3: That likes someone never named Daredevil symbio. 895 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: Could you imagine I'm fine, I'll take a Daredevil fight 896 00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:03,280 Spider Man episode, but yeah, it would be uh, they'll 897 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,039 give it to Finesse. 898 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 4: I would I would prefer what you. 899 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:09,159 Speaker 2: Is that it's a sidekick. 900 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: That's okay. 901 00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 2: I don't know that much about her, but yeah, that's 902 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,159 her name. Finesse, I'm I'm much more of a blind 903 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,559 Spot uh sidekick supporter, But here. 904 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,199 Speaker 4: We are blind Spot is his sidekick. 905 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 2: That's another one. Yeah, also blind he's gonna make us 906 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,920 he's deaf. I think wait, I might be mixing them up. 907 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: Okay, the Venom thing, I I would prefer just being 908 00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:34,239 like staying in the lab for most of maybe season 909 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,400 two of like like oz Corp is studying it or something. 910 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,519 Maybe they're using it for its power, but like not 911 00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:42,960 necessarily full on on Peter, But that's probably what's gonna happen. 912 00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:45,519 So I'm I'm torn because I like the way that 913 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:49,199 it was executed. But uh yeah too early. 914 00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: Okay, No, I was wrong. He was blinded by funny enough. 915 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,039 I don't think he's in the show, but the villain 916 00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:57,880 that's in the Daredevil season four come up muse music 917 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,880 who blinded him? So yeah, I I'm not a fan 918 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,000 of Der Devil sidekicks, but I did like blind Spots. 919 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:03,880 So Finesse, I'm. 920 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 1: I like the like reveal that that character was more 921 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,239 than just a regular character. And so another thing I 922 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,760 think the show is so good at is like combining 923 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,000 storylines with characters and just like like making even side 924 00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:20,320 characters feel really important like to the overall story, the 925 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,079 way that like things just loop back around, just the 926 00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:27,320 way that like the Interns actually had like use you know, 927 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,400 like like without them, they actually wouldn't have had this 928 00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:32,360 massive portal, so like they weren't just characters for like 929 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,920 comedic relief when Peter would be in that zone, Like 930 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,519 they were doing stuff even when Peter wasn't around them. 931 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:41,159 So yeah, it's just great constructed season for me overall. 932 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 2: And don't forget you had a Hulk in those Interns 933 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:43,679 as well. 934 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: Show is he becomes Amideis Chow Really Yeah, it's funny, 935 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,639 the five point zero GPA. 936 00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 4: He had the legend himself. 937 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,679 Speaker 2: Someone searched up. It's like it's not incredible Hal, but 938 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,440 it's like the Amazing Hulk or the Outstanding Hulk. It's 939 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,320 some fucking nickname that he's different. 940 00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:00,519 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look at that. 941 00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 8: The absolute Superheropeian in American combooks name uh the Braun 942 00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:11,760 Iron Spider Mastermind, Excello, Prince of Power. 943 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: That's how we're going. Did you search Arma Dais. 944 00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: Shoe as Joe and then American just search Hulk. 945 00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking for. I don't know what else 946 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,280 to reading me. 947 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: The Braun, He's the bron that's his name. He became 948 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,280 the Hulk for a time after absorbing bris Banners Gamme radiation, 949 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,719 and even though the classic Hulk is back in action, 950 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,440 Ama Das continues to fight for what's right in a 951 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,599 new role as Braun. 952 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,079 Speaker 2: Totally awesome, Hulk. That's what I was looking for. 953 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,159 Speaker 1: Not under the notable aliases. 954 00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 5: You simul land Oh, I would like to see it 955 00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:51,920 just done differently. Like, don't get me wrong, if you 956 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,519 get the black Suit Spider Man, I'm totally okay with it. 957 00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,920 I I'm a sucker for that, and I'm a sucker 958 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,480 for Venom. But at the end of the day, I 959 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,519 think this is a show where we've gotten so many 960 00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:09,280 cool crossover mixed smash ups, just different things happening. So 961 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,000 throw that symbiod on. I don't know, Like I said, yeah, 962 00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:14,400 Charlie Cox is Daredevil. 963 00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 2: Throw it on to. 964 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,559 Speaker 4: Anyone, Like take your pick. 965 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,559 Speaker 5: When we got that list of all those other characters, 966 00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:25,719 I don't know all of the characters like from Webb 967 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,079 Harry's new organization, I don't know all of them, but 968 00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:30,320 I know that there was Electro. I know there was 969 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,519 like Ned Leeds on there too. It's like, let's have 970 00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:34,079 fun with it, let's get some. 971 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,679 Speaker 2: Crazy my boy Ned. 972 00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,599 Speaker 5: I feel like we'll see it in season two, right, like, 973 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,400 at least this Ned will for sure, at least I. 974 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: Put my mod on that we need to get Hobgoblin 975 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:50,440 back in the modern I feel like it's. 976 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 2: Been too long and then Great Goblin like eight Villain. 977 00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 4: I feel like I'd put Hobgoblin an eightier. 978 00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 2: I would, but I don't think he is for the 979 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,880 general audience. I don't. I don't think. 980 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,039 Speaker 4: Look put some so high on my list. 981 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 2: It's so fantastic, and it's a great break from I 982 00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:09,320 think here because clearly they got Norman, they're going for 983 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,760 Green Golb. That's always been my pitch for MCUs. Okay, 984 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,360 if you don't want to do because William and they've 985 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,559 done it before, do fucking hobgob I know, case someone say, okay, 986 00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:18,800 look at Ned Leeds, there's other Hobgobs you'll go to make. 987 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,079 And I don't want his friend to be hot. I 988 00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:23,039 don't want that Ned to be hob gone. But there's yeah, 989 00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:24,079 there's other versions. 990 00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 5: So uh yeah, just enclosing the Symbio planet thing that 991 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,280 was creeping through that was that was crazy. 992 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 3: And doctor Strain's just like containing the creature. 993 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,639 Speaker 5: And like his portal prison and then just doing all 994 00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:40,119 his magical spells and then creating that barrier and sitting 995 00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:43,239 like his nuke and just exploding it inside of its own. 996 00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:44,519 Speaker 4: Part of the galaxy. 997 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 3: There's just so much of that fight was just fantastic. 998 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: I really liked it. 999 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 5: And yeah, I think my heart stopped when the little 1000 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,800 Simbio got snipped when the portal closed and it was 1001 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,880 like flying forwards and you see a scene like Peter 1002 00:43:57,039 --> 00:43:59,280 lurching for I thought the thing's just gonna latch on 1003 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,679 to him right away, but it didn't. So yeah, Norman 1004 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,920 obviously found it as we saw, which is good. But 1005 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,440 I'm just looking forward to seeing where they go with it. 1006 00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 2: Or I wonder, because I'd be fine with this show 1007 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,440 because it's just doing its own thing. I do wonder 1008 00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:17,199 if the other route, if they have Norman use it somehow, 1009 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,400 and that's how we get to Ultimate Goblin, which is 1010 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,320 Goblin as like a whole slider. So because they've not 1011 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,679 really done like I think they're gonna maybe do that 1012 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,360 in the the the Garfield one. They kind of have 1013 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,599 to that they neard in the movies. I don't love 1014 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,679 that type of goblin, but I could see them maybe 1015 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,280 using some symbio for ultimate Goblin and then hey, maybe 1016 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,239 that's how you get Chown there too. He can turn 1017 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,000 the Hulk and then he's Mega Goblin. They fight, you know, so. 1018 00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I don't know. Let's take her next to 1019 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:52,159 that break right back, Okay, we are back. Anything else 1020 00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:56,079 we didn't mention on that little time travel sequence there 1021 00:44:56,159 --> 00:45:00,440 the Big I can't remember what they called it, better 1022 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,440 than light speed travel following it when Doctor Strange and 1023 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,239 Peter have like their little conversation. 1024 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 2: Really, I thought it was great. 1025 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,159 Speaker 3: It was really cool seeing the two heroes working together. 1026 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,199 Speaker 1: Really really love that. 1027 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 5: But I missed this at the first watch through and 1028 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,719 caught it after the fact the watchers or did you 1029 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,159 see that? 1030 00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did you catch it off thea Did you 1031 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,679 see an internet post about it? 1032 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: Oh? 1033 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,199 Speaker 3: It was internet posts. I went back and watched it ship. 1034 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,119 Speaker 4: I feel like it was right in my face. 1035 00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 3: It was pretty hard to her in the face. 1036 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 2: I feel like he was bigger than the X Men 1037 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,159 when we got so. Yeah, it was there, but much 1038 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:39,840 more bigger. 1039 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. When I saw it, I'm like, it's so funny, Taylor. 1040 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,960 I'm just so used to like your edits. As soon 1041 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,519 as I saw it, I'm like, this is a Taylor Field. 1042 00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:48,280 And then I had to remind myself I was watching 1043 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,920 off of Disney Plus when I look at your quality, 1044 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,320 it was good. 1045 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 2: I have my answer. But if it's not enough for like, 1046 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,039 what are they doing this a live actionally, I feel 1047 00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,079 like it's gonna happen soon, right, just send that watcher. 1048 00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1049 00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:01,599 Speaker 2: I do think it's gonna happen f four, hence why 1050 00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:04,760 I drafted them. Oh wait, is that that's a wat too? 1051 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,039 Speaker 1: Right? 1052 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,679 Speaker 2: So can I get that confirmed? That w'd be some 1053 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,000 points for me, wouldn't have I think No, I think 1054 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,920 it's he looks like a wat to. 1055 00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure i'd give you. 1056 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,599 Speaker 2: Oh fuck, yeah, I'm gonna get that confirmed. But that's good. 1057 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,679 But yeah, it's kind of funny because honestly, he still 1058 00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:26,239 has more Norman as his his mentor, but not really 1059 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,920 now because at the end he decided he's gonna be 1060 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,360 his own man, not so much because oh Norman's being 1061 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,159 bad like he did say a little bit, but it's 1062 00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:33,960 not like o'norman's villain. I leave him just like he 1063 00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:37,000 didn't fully trust everything that's happening, so I got to 1064 00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:38,639 do my own thing. It felt like it was like 1065 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,360 a probably he would view it as like a makeable split, 1066 00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:44,559 but I feel like just the way things have worked out, 1067 00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:47,039 it's only been two times, but it feels like doctor 1068 00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:50,159 Strange is more closer to them to kind of what 1069 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,280 Tony was in the six one six or the Sacred timeline, right, 1070 00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:55,280 So it's kind of fun to have that flip where 1071 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,039 Stranger and him eventually do get closer. So I will 1072 00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:00,760 be curious to see do we get Strange again? Does 1073 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,519 he ever bump in Tony? I'll see caps on the run, 1074 00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:05,599 but I feel like there's they're trying to set some 1075 00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:09,079 sort of semi relation. Was Strange and if the simio 1076 00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:11,519 comes back into play, I could see Strange coming back 1077 00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:13,679 and more conversations. So I just felt like they're more 1078 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,519 of the that's more the mentee you want to have 1079 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:17,840 versus Norman. 1080 00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:22,679 Speaker 1: So absolutely I feel like the use of Strange like 1081 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,840 I I don't need them like at the starting next 1082 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,280 season or anything, like I don't even necessarily need him 1083 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,639 next season, but like I like just the little drop 1084 00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:33,360 of wisdom that he gave to Peter, And honestly, just 1085 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,440 like all of the little cameo I mean there haven't 1086 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,519 been many, but like the Daredevil sequence with Peter. 1087 00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 4: Obviously they clash, but I just love that dialogue. 1088 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: So I'm very intrigued on who they're gonna be, you know, 1089 00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:47,079 just just tossing in next season as well, like whether 1090 00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:50,559 it is Tony or as you already mentioned, Cap is 1091 00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:52,440 on the run, but maybe he'll run right into Peter. 1092 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:59,280 Who knows. We got the Worldwide Engineering Brigade, which, uh, 1093 00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:01,480 you know that's really hype, Taylor, you mentioned a couple 1094 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,320 of the names on there. 1095 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,679 Speaker 4: I just don't understand the marketing of this. 1096 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: How he's supposed to like it's supposed to be Peter 1097 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,760 Parker that's doing this, and then it's like they're just 1098 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,440 like ripping off the Spider Man merch and uh, you know, 1099 00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:13,239 like just how is nobody gonna think about? 1100 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,039 Speaker 2: You know, Like. 1101 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: Why I loved it as soon as I saw it 1102 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,920 because when I was in Disneyland, as my hat is, 1103 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,320 like that was the like the theme at the Avengers 1104 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,239 campus for all the Spider Man stuff was the Worldwide 1105 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,119 Engineering Brigade, So I'm like, man, I'm ahead of the curve. 1106 00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:31,039 I already got their merch and everything. This this is 1107 00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:33,800 fucking hype. So I'm just kind of intrigued on like 1108 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,559 what the extent of what yeah, like what that is 1109 00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:38,880 gonna be if if it is just another oz Corp 1110 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,119 type thing, not an evil menacine one, but just like 1111 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,480 a place for science, and if they really go to 1112 00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:47,760 the details on like who's funniness and why and why 1113 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,159 is it really to Spider Man and and like do 1114 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,039 the people that work there know about Peter? I don't. 1115 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,840 I would hope not. I like I like the crew 1116 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,440 that we have right now, like especially just having Nico 1117 00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:02,000 knowledgeable of what's going on now, like she can help, 1118 00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:03,679 you know, cover for Peter as we saw when they're 1119 00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:06,159 doing the presentations, Like it's just a fun trio that 1120 00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:09,639 we have right now. So yeah, I'm just thinking about 1121 00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:14,400 where the web is gonna be, uh impacting Peter and 1122 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,840 just just the overall storyline what's going on there, Like yeah, 1123 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,880 how maybe they're gonna be designing suits now for like Peter. 1124 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,159 I fucking love the suit that we have now the 1125 00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:26,360 classics suit. They did not disappoint. It looks so gorgeous. 1126 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 4: But yeah, just you know, he's always getting new tech. 1127 00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't know how it's gonna play. And 1128 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,800 for me, it felt like it was just to give 1129 00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:37,719 Harry something to do and to keep our characters, like 1130 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,719 the interns around because they can't be a Norman obviously. 1131 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,800 It feel like that gives us a lizard episode, right 1132 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,880 because you got Connors bouncing around, so you got that. 1133 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,400 I think Chow was in there for a reason. So 1134 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,480 I think hulking, like some Hulk stuff will happen at 1135 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,159 some point. So that's mayb where he could bring in 1136 00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:54,320 up Bruce Banner because there's sign stuff. I imagine he's 1137 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,159 just bankrolling with his daddy's money somehow. I'm not sure 1138 00:49:57,159 --> 00:49:59,159 if Norman be like, stop doing that. But maybe Norman 1139 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,440 might be impressed by like he's taken some sort of initiative, 1140 00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:05,840 right because he has because Harry's not in high school, right, 1141 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,400 he's older than Peter Nico. He's older. So yeah, like 1142 00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:11,760 I think Norman might look at it as like, oh, 1143 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,519 this is great, But also Norman might use as like 1144 00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:16,360 a way to still keep tabs on Peter and everybody, 1145 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,239 like without Harry's knowledge though, right, like just a way 1146 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,119 to like, oh, I'm just checking up my son's thing, 1147 00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:23,599 or like it doesn't feel weird that because it shouldn't 1148 00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:25,559 feel weird that Harry and Norman would be hanging out 1149 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,360 because their father and son and they haven't had like 1150 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,599 a breakup moment. Harry's jealous of him at times, but 1151 00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:32,920 I feel like that would stop a lot in season 1152 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,400 two because Peter's no longer working with him side by side. 1153 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,039 Speaker 1: So yeah, I. 1154 00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 2: Feel like it's just to keep some of those characters 1155 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,679 busy and around, because if they just don't trust Norman, 1156 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,639 they break off Win does Peter, c Connors and Chow 1157 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,840 and even Harry again, right, Harry and we are friends now, 1158 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,239 so you could do that. But I mean, like even 1159 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,920 carrying that threat of the Norman Harry Peters storyline, I 1160 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,440 think it's just to keep them all together. What they're 1161 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,199 actually gonna do, I really don't know, I really I'm curious, So. 1162 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, very interested, Like what like the Norman like inclusion 1163 00:51:03,159 --> 00:51:05,440 of because he's gonna be interacting with Peter in some way, 1164 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,360 shape or form, but like Peter really you know, like 1165 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,239 I don't know if I can trust that individual anymore. 1166 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,079 But like Norman's also just you know, he's got a 1167 00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,559 silver tongue, Like I feel like he just he warms 1168 00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:18,000 up Peter's heart in a certain way that Peter puts 1169 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,280 his guard down even though he does know that he 1170 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,039 shouldn't trust him, Like he just went through a big 1171 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,440 thing at the Ascorp Museum. 1172 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,039 Speaker 5: Museum should have been a big red flag going to 1173 00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,639 the secret underground facility and seeing all the stuff. Doctor 1174 00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:35,719 Connors was even freaking out, like, yeah, I used your 1175 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,679 technology to make a master torture device and we're gonna 1176 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,239 use it right now. 1177 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 4: It's like Jesus Christ. 1178 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:51,559 Speaker 1: Can you even do this? Cool? Where do we go next? 1179 00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 5: Oh? 1180 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: Yes, Nici Minoru. 1181 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll be interesting to have her on the 1182 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,360 squad next. Sure, I actually sucking her mom, but I 1183 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,480 think that's just a is her. 1184 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 4: Mom like a big combook character or anything. 1185 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,559 Speaker 2: Her mom's actually a villain. So that's what's interesting because 1186 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:08,800 that's she is a part of the com book The Runaways, 1187 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,440 and that's what happens. There's a bunch of kids that 1188 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,480 are friends, like growup together, but they find out that 1189 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,360 their parents are like a Masters of Evil group in 1190 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,440 the Marvel universe, Like they're all bad people so they 1191 00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,199 run away. So yeah, I'm not sure what they'll do 1192 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,199 with that. They probably change that a little bit, but yeah, 1193 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,119 I'll be curious. The only thing I just don't want 1194 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,559 is because, like I said, if we got Connors and 1195 00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:29,880 show and we got her, I don't want to become 1196 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,679 like Ultimate Spierman the TV show, not the com book 1197 00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:35,159 where it's Spider Man and his like mini Avengers. I 1198 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,679 still primarily want to be Peter. So I'll accept Nico. 1199 00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:42,800 But that's where I just worry what There's other heroes around, 1200 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,159 so I hope they just kind of get sprinkled and 1201 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,760 we never get to a point where it's Peter and 1202 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,639 the team. It's like I watch Spiderman Spiderman. If you 1203 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,639 want to do a spin off of you know, Spider 1204 00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:55,000 Man as Friends or the Defenders, whatever, sure, but I 1205 00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:57,159 don't want there to be like a mini Avengers team. 1206 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,400 But I'll be curious. And I'll be curious too when 1207 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,199 she shares with Peter, because she gave Peter a bunch 1208 00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:04,840 of ship about human a secret. Obviously they figure that 1209 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,400 all out. That's all good, but is she gonna be 1210 00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:09,679 telling him right away now that she's talking to her 1211 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,039 mom has to be doing that the whole time. A 1212 00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:14,119 little hypocritical if uh, Peter about the line and she's 1213 00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:17,400 a fucking sorcerer. Or maybe that's where strange comes back in, right, 1214 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,760 because maybe there's some stuff she can't control or do 1215 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,719 and he's like, well, I know somebody that way. 1216 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, I could see that being a plot point, 1217 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,480 just the mother dynamic. Maybe she brings her back she's 1218 00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:30,039 fucking evil or something. 1219 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 2: My actual love of Norman, I must see him, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 1220 00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:38,599 Speaker 5: She didn't look like it wasn't gonna save her when 1221 00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:43,679 that oscar bus was gonna be just splashing into her. 1222 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,079 There Spider Man to save her. 1223 00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:46,559 Speaker 2: I think she's relatively new at this. 1224 00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 4: I think the master very like ritualistic too, right. 1225 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,039 Speaker 3: She held her amulet up hoping that would help. 1226 00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:55,159 Speaker 2: She did yeah before it. But it's kind of like 1227 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,119 the earliest sage of Harry Potter, right where you gotta 1228 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,039 flick and you gotta do, you gotta say it, where 1229 00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:01,280 when you're a better with you just just do it. 1230 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,400 Your mind even to say. 1231 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 4: Like it's I think it's like the Dane cook skip. 1232 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: You know when you see a tire coming at you, 1233 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,440 you just instinctively put your hand up, even though it's 1234 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,519 not gonna do anything. 1235 00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:11,679 Speaker 2: No, she was dead that that didn't work and he 1236 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:12,159 wasn't there. 1237 00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: I love the moment though, when when he does save 1238 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,880 her and then she like realizes, like what he like 1239 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,239 what Spider Man the hero? Actually is their little uh 1240 00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:24,159 makeup there? I like to although like why do it 1241 00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:26,079 in the alley, like take his mask off? Like just 1242 00:54:26,119 --> 00:54:28,480 fucking people are walking right by, Like just zoom her 1243 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:30,239 up to the roof, have this conversation the roof. But 1244 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:31,800 what do you think? 1245 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 5: What do you think he's gonna stay on the phone 1246 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,039 right before she got almost murdered because I felt like, 1247 00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,679 I feel like we're gonna get something like him saying 1248 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,920 something else like oh, the relationship will be more. 1249 00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 4: But where is this? 1250 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 5: When she was walking down the street, she was listening 1251 00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:49,119 to Peter's voicemail and it cut off. Oh before He's like, 1252 00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:50,760 I just really want to say, and then it cut 1253 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,639 off and she screamed, And there. 1254 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna do this love story. 1255 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,559 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be her and Harry, To be honest, 1256 00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:01,039 I feel like they got a lot pearl. 1257 00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, pearl called Peter Peter. 1258 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 1: So they're gonna be yeah smoosh, smoosh. 1259 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think she's kind of like the 1260 00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:16,840 Liz Allen where I don't think she's gonna be the 1261 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,400 final of interest and I think you'll get an MJ 1262 00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:22,159 or Gwen Stacy or somebody. But yes, I think they're 1263 00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:25,119 gonna dabble in that. I think the reason they're going 1264 00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:27,199 to keep her around and be a love interest is 1265 00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:29,480 because that's gonna play in when Tombstone eventually makes the 1266 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,320 villain swap and they can do some juicy stuff there, 1267 00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:36,400 you know, triangles in my life. Yeah, yeah, you fucked 1268 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,519 my two month old girlfriend, you know. 1269 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I I I really like what they're doing, Nico. I. 1270 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,320 I like that character, like she's part of the team, 1271 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,280 and I like that they didn't rush into the power, 1272 00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:51,239 uh said, I hear you're saying tres but like an 1273 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,920 Avengers Spider Man team. I don't want that either, but 1274 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,880 you know, just just Spider Man and then his friend 1275 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,599 that's like a novice with magic, Like that's a fun 1276 00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:01,440 dynam like you know, like like she can do a 1277 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,280 couple of things. Maybe by the end of season two 1278 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,920 she's starting to really get stronger with the spells, and 1279 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,719 then season three, four five, that's when she's you know, 1280 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,320 popping off and just zapping people. 1281 00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 2: Through a lots or we don't even know, could be 1282 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,000 setting up for a villain's turn, right, we think, because 1283 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,840 that's like the show we talk about does a lot 1284 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,599 of different twists. Maybe it's like a one type of 1285 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,599 version where some dark dabbles in some dark magic. This 1286 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,599 mom she's talking to is not a real mom, and 1287 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,639 I could easily see not saying a film that he 1288 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,000 kills off and there villains forever, but something where it 1289 00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:35,079 could be villain is. 1290 00:56:35,199 --> 00:56:38,199 Speaker 1: So it's like the talk to Me plot line where 1291 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,639 you think that you're talking to your mom and then 1292 00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:41,079 another spirit or something because. 1293 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,039 Speaker 2: You never know, right, it's magic, don't fuck with it. 1294 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:49,760 Speaker 1: Don't fuck with it. It's freaky. There's probably other things 1295 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,199 that we haven't said, but just in my note, I 1296 00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:57,000 was really expecting an incret scene, and I was mostly 1297 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,280 because I was really sure that we were gonna see 1298 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,440 where that spider landed because an episode one and landed 1299 00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:05,400 on a backpack. I was bringing up Cindy Moon you know, 1300 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,559 the great and powerful, but didn't get any It's just 1301 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,880 like not necessarily that I'm upset. Maybe it gets Cindy 1302 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,679 because I just think that character is awesome and I 1303 00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:20,119 want her in a Spider Man show for sure, so 1304 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:20,519 cand of. 1305 00:57:20,519 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 2: Be perfect because it's supposed to be the same Peter, 1306 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,320 the same not the same Peter that Peter, the same 1307 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,360 Spider that Peter. 1308 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,039 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, exactly, and like that's what I thought, 1309 00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:32,000 Like in episode one, I was talking about that how 1310 00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:34,440 like that Spider land on that backpack, they really didn't 1311 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,920 show who that was. So I thought since we were 1312 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,239 getting like from the different perspective of that same shot, 1313 00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:41,000 I thought we were gonna see the person lifted up 1314 00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:44,079 and then I was just looking for a Cindy Moon character. 1315 00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:46,000 But they didn't even like address it at all, which 1316 00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:49,679 is like either kill the Spider or like answer what's 1317 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,519 going on with it? Like I don't like that it's 1318 00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:55,119 just missing, like unaccounted for. And I guess next season 1319 00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:56,880 or a future season you could like bring back to 1320 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,960 that like that was that same Spider. But yeah, I 1321 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,920 just feel like they missed their uptunity to at least 1322 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,719 show that it was going somewhere. It just seems like 1323 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,360 they missed to talk about that. I don't know. 1324 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 2: Okay, what I think they could do is obviously they 1325 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,679 did not do this minor suppose for the Captain America movie. 1326 00:58:11,679 --> 00:58:13,559 But I think we all knew this in the comics 1327 00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:15,800 when Red Hulk debuted for a while, they didn't say 1328 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,880 who it was. It was just a mystery, and I 1329 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,199 could see them do something like that with Silk. That 1330 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,039 for it's a mysterious character and that's why they don't 1331 00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:25,840 want to show who it is, Like we obviously we 1332 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,599 know right that as you're watching the show, it's like, Hey, 1333 00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:30,639 who's this other Spier person? They good, they bad, whatever, 1334 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,039 and then you get to oh, it's a school plus 1335 00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:35,000 if it ends up being a love interest, they probably 1336 00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:37,480 what's her name again? I always forget the Tombstone's ex 1337 00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:40,480 girlfriend Pearl Pearl, Like, if they want to deal with that, 1338 00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:42,199 they might not want to have a love interest right 1339 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,519 away if they want to go that route. So I 1340 00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:47,320 could see that being something they you know, maybe Silk's 1341 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,519 around they revealed near the end, and then season three 1342 00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:51,800 you could maybe have them together. Obviously they're not gonna 1343 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,360 be doing what they did in the comic panels of 1344 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,440 these very vivid drawings, them just banging it out. But 1345 00:58:58,199 --> 00:59:00,559 I would like that if they that'd be my only 1346 00:59:00,599 --> 00:59:02,239 way because I agree with you that I feel like 1347 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,800 it's a little odd that we don't circle back to it. 1348 00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:07,440 So if season one just or season two just opens 1349 00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:09,440 up with like, hey, I'm Silk and this is what happened, 1350 00:59:09,639 --> 00:59:11,119 I wouldn't like that. But if they were to play 1351 00:59:11,159 --> 00:59:13,000 it's kind of like a mystery, like hey, who picked 1352 00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:15,519 up the back back and you're kind of thinking like, hey, 1353 00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:17,039 who could it? Because they they'll change it. Maybe it 1354 00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:20,519 wouldn't be her, But yeah, that's my pitch, but I 1355 00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:22,280 think you'll get an answered. I don't think they did 1356 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,480 that accidentally. 1357 00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised, So I like what you pitched there, 1358 00:59:27,039 --> 00:59:29,360 how like we meet that character and then once you 1359 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,199 find out more about the character than they talk about that. 1360 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,079 But yeah, I don't want it to just seem like 1361 00:59:34,159 --> 00:59:36,119 it was a mistake, like they're just so I forgot 1362 00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:38,159 to cover that, because that's just yeah, kind. 1363 00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 2: Of like this season right, Like to us, the Doctor's 1364 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,000 strange simult thing was just oh, doctor Straine's in a fight, 1365 00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:44,239 but then the finale revealed Oh there's way more to it. 1366 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,039 It's the same thing of like we meet Silk and 1367 00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:48,199 then they then feel like, oh no, there's way more 1368 00:59:48,239 --> 00:59:50,400 to remember season one that Spider well, here you go. 1369 00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 4: Shell for show. 1370 00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Anything we didn't talk about in either of the episode we. 1371 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 2: Talked about Richard Parker. 1372 01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did not talk about Richard. Yes, Richie, 1373 01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:09,000 we got Dick Dick Parker in here. 1374 01:00:09,719 --> 01:00:12,239 Speaker 5: So this is like an Amazing Spider Man to deleted 1375 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,960 scene come to life, right It very much is. 1376 01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:17,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, the dad is alive, but this time he's in 1377 01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:20,559 a prison. So that's a that's a lot different. 1378 01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:22,159 Speaker 3: Something to do with Spider Man, right there. 1379 01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:26,039 Speaker 1: I don't forget you, buddy, That's what May says to 1380 01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:30,199 him when Yeah, I mean at first I thought it 1381 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,840 was like a ben or something, because I'm just so 1382 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,960 not used to seeing Richard Parker like used other than 1383 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,960 like flashbacks. I guess Amazing Spider Man kind of did 1384 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,199 a little bit of stuff like that with yeah, just 1385 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,239 him working with the Connors and and that stuff. But 1386 01:00:48,639 --> 01:00:50,639 I was just, yeah, I'm so not used to dealing 1387 01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:54,840 with Richard Parker, so I'm very i think just interested 1388 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,119 in the dynamic of of Peter not only having a dad, 1389 01:00:58,239 --> 01:01:01,119 but like he's in prison for reason and like just 1390 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,119 I don't know, you know, people get in prison for 1391 01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:06,440 various things, but just the way that he was like 1392 01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:09,480 talking to May and like carrying it, like carrying himself 1393 01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:12,280 in the conversation. I'm like, this guy's sus this guy, 1394 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,079 this guy's done some crime and he's he's not upset 1395 01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:18,480 with his decisions or maybe maybe not. Maybe it's not 1396 01:01:18,519 --> 01:01:20,000 the best way to phrase, but yeah, I feel like 1397 01:01:20,039 --> 01:01:21,719 he's like a grimy guy at least for how that 1398 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,559 scene which was played out. 1399 01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 4: So, yeah, they got to meet at some point, right, Peter, 1400 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,159 Peter and Richard. 1401 01:01:29,159 --> 01:01:31,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it's just a question of does one 1402 01:01:31,639 --> 01:01:34,199 does Peter know that he's in there, and it's just 1403 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,280 kind of like, uh, you know, screwed aad, he's a criminal. 1404 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,639 I don't talk to him, right or is it like, oh, 1405 01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:43,880 your dad's dead. I don't think they ever. I don't 1406 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,400 did he ever say his parents were dead in this show? 1407 01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:48,119 Speaker 1: Like That's what I was trying to think about, because 1408 01:01:48,239 --> 01:01:51,159 I think he said he lost his parents or something, 1409 01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:55,960 because him and Harry are like talking about losing the mom. Yeah, 1410 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,079 and then in that scene, I remember thinking that he 1411 01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:00,960 didn't like specifically say his parents. It's like, yeah, I 1412 01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:04,119 lost my mom too, so I was, but like I 1413 01:02:04,199 --> 01:02:06,599 also just it's probably just because Harry's talking about the 1414 01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:08,840 mom here, like that's probably what, but like, yeah, I 1415 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,320 don't know, So yeah. 1416 01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:13,519 Speaker 2: I'm interested that dynamic. I'm interesting if there's anything May 1417 01:02:13,639 --> 01:02:17,119 meeting him, whether he thinks his dad's alive or whatever 1418 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,519 situation for were to cause drama for May go there. 1419 01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:21,159 I think it gives more for me to do because 1420 01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:23,559 I don't think you need to have May in every episode. 1421 01:02:23,559 --> 01:02:25,920 But I think much like the MCU aunt May, and 1422 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,400 this shows very she could also be dead, like that's why, 1423 01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:31,599 and knowing Homa is find them killing Ant make I'm like, 1424 01:02:31,639 --> 01:02:33,519 you guys really don't do anything with her. Same Withly 1425 01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:35,559 this show. They don't really do anything with ant May, right, 1426 01:02:35,679 --> 01:02:37,119 she just pops in every once in a while, So 1427 01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:40,960 this could give her some agency. Yeah, I'm curious. It's 1428 01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:43,559 I think he's alive with her once in a while 1429 01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:45,800 some stories, because sometimes they've been like spies, which I'm 1430 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,119 not the biggest fan of, but I think they also 1431 01:02:48,199 --> 01:02:50,480 got to be careful to tiptoe, not just make him 1432 01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:54,599 like Peter's uncle Aaron, because that's the situation she could 1433 01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:56,360 get in too, right, where it's a loved one that's 1434 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,800 a criminal. And that's because either way, there's been times 1435 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,840 where it's like Spider Verse, where it's oh, he's a 1436 01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:05,480 he's a criminal, but he's meaning to do well in 1437 01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:08,079 a sympathetic character, and then there's times where it's like a, fuck, Miles, 1438 01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:11,320 I don't care about my nephew. So I saw this though, Okay, 1439 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,440 interesting twist, but I want to see what it This 1440 01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:16,639 to me is definitely more about the follow up, because, 1441 01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:18,599 like I said, that comes into cause of course, yeah 1442 01:03:18,639 --> 01:03:20,440 it's not Uncle Aaron. But if you just do kind 1443 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,920 of the same archetype, it might feel a little repetitive 1444 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,519 because there's almost just so much they set up in 1445 01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:26,440 season two where it's like, I don't even know if 1446 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,199 this is needed yet, right, So for me, it's a 1447 01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:29,800 wait and see, but thought, Okay, I think it's a 1448 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,760 good hook to end on, and it's something that's like, okay, 1449 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,199 a lot of theory crafting can happen, so I. 1450 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh sorry ahead, fuck okay, uh say I saw something 1451 01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:43,760 online Some people were talking about maybe pairing the venom 1452 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:48,199 with Richard Parker, like just having Oh, okay, I don't 1453 01:03:48,239 --> 01:03:51,480 know how that would like play out unless Norman is 1454 01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:53,639 just really conniving and like I don't know why he 1455 01:03:53,679 --> 01:03:57,000 would choose specifically Richard Parker to do that or like 1456 01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:59,800 how that would play out just because he is behind bars, 1457 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:00,960 but I don't know. 1458 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 2: It's just a mistake, right, Like his dad gets out. 1459 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,159 Speaker 4: He's in a church, Please God kill my son. 1460 01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 5: I also read the possibility that like what if what 1461 01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:18,079 if he killed Peter's mom because you just get this, 1462 01:04:18,679 --> 01:04:20,840 you get this weird dialogue too, where he's like, how's 1463 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,119 my son or something like that, like he's licking his 1464 01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:26,159 lips like a fixation on his kid and maybe, yeah, 1465 01:04:26,199 --> 01:04:27,480 maybe he did do something bad. 1466 01:04:28,199 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 2: Be interesting. I don't think they'll go that dark. I 1467 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:30,519 don't think they'll have. 1468 01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 1: My long legs. 1469 01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but interesting for sure. 1470 01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:43,599 Speaker 1: It's like is there Spider Man storylines where like Richard 1471 01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:45,599 Parker is just still a lot like I've just never. 1472 01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:47,599 Speaker 2: Seen this, Like I said, I think there there's times 1473 01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:50,239 where it's like him and his mom, it's one of 1474 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,880 them or both of them are like am I sick 1475 01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:54,599 something something? And everything it's not. 1476 01:04:54,639 --> 01:04:58,039 Speaker 4: Like the like the whole time or something like that. 1477 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but nothing, nothing that I've ever glombed on too, 1478 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,760 because same them. Like I just like his parents said. 1479 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,079 As weird as it sounds, you know, so. 1480 01:05:07,559 --> 01:05:13,119 Speaker 1: It's simple. Yeah that's what I'm used to. Cool. Yeah, 1481 01:05:13,159 --> 01:05:16,800 I think I got kind of everything. Uh do you 1482 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:21,559 think Osbourne's gonna make his army of spiders still? Like, 1483 01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:24,320 I know you kind of lost the main candidate, but 1484 01:05:24,679 --> 01:05:27,960 I imagine they would have had some data to I 1485 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,440 don't know, make the spider bots. 1486 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,559 Speaker 4: I remember that being like an arc. 1487 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 2: I could see that because if you get to Alister 1488 01:05:35,159 --> 01:05:37,800 Smite or something like that, there's the fucking spider slayers 1489 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,360 and stuff. So like I could see there being still 1490 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:40,400 an army of them. Yeah. 1491 01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't love that storyline, so it didn't really 1492 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,239 get too excited. 1493 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,599 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah cool. Yeah, No, I don't really have anything 1494 01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:48,960 else say. 1495 01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:52,159 Speaker 1: Oh, actually a couple of beautiful camera shots, specifically when 1496 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,679 the the Scorpion fight was happening. There was one shot 1497 01:05:55,679 --> 01:05:57,719 where the camera was like at a window, Peter like 1498 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,400 jumps to it and then like the claw comes at window, 1499 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,679 breaks it, and just overall great design with the fight 1500 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,599 scenes and everything they're Yeah, no, I just very visually pleasing, 1501 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,880 and the scores phenomenal. I don't think I skipped a 1502 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,760 single intro. The entire season just gets me so fucking 1503 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,239 juice that that that like modern take on, like the 1504 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,119 class like here comes to Spider Man like man. This 1505 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,679 show is just so good. So I'm I hope they 1506 01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:25,719 don't really change it honestly in season two. I hope 1507 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,880 that's just like the same theme. Overall. I like the 1508 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,280 individual covers that they have, you know, every time, like 1509 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,440 a unique comic book cover. So I fucking love the show, guys, overall, 1510 01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:38,920 I would start ten to ten perfect show for me. 1511 01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:41,719 Speaker 2: It's gonna start the lowest. 1512 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's too excited. 1513 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you jump right to ten of ten best and 1514 01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:48,679 the ends of show doesn't let anyone else rate it. 1515 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, folks. We all thought. 1516 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, one more quick thing. 1517 01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 5: I guess, uh that whiteboard with the names there's pim Labs, 1518 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,559 Alkamax and Spider Woman, or if you're things. 1519 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:00,719 Speaker 1: That are. 1520 01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:04,079 Speaker 4: Julie Cornwall. 1521 01:07:06,679 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: Out of here, it'd be uh, that's the other lady's name, 1522 01:07:09,239 --> 01:07:14,079 not that Julia Carpenter one. Drew Andrew Andrew. 1523 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,119 Speaker 2: Because it's what is Jennifer. It's not Jeffer Carpenter. 1524 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,639 Speaker 1: Right now, that's the Juliae Carpenter. 1525 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:24,119 Speaker 2: Julie carper K, Jennifer Carpner's deb actress from Dexter's or something. Yeah, 1526 01:07:24,199 --> 01:07:28,800 too many cornwalls Carpenter's going on. Yeah they Well, we'll. 1527 01:07:28,639 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: Never talk about cornwalls again. 1528 01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm for now and eight point seventy five. I 1529 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:34,960 don't think you just get tonight because like I said, 1530 01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:37,440 I think the first four episodes were a bit more 1531 01:07:37,559 --> 01:07:40,119 rockier for me than for you guys. That was the 1532 01:07:40,159 --> 01:07:42,320 time we're like okay. And maybe that's what I said 1533 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,800 for now, because there's a show that I think I 1534 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,000 probably will watch. All the girls loved it, so it's 1535 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,880 a good time. So maybe it's not that Okay. I 1536 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,280 got the whole story, you know, the time travel stuff, 1537 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:51,880 but I think there's a couple episodes where it's like this. 1538 01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:55,840 I didn't love the first four, particularly the first three. 1539 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,000 I thought, okay, sometimes maybe it was I don't even 1540 01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,400 want to say a little too kidty, but it just 1541 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,400 didn't feel didn't hook me. I was not waiting to 1542 01:08:02,519 --> 01:08:04,639 come back later on where I think the middle portion 1543 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,880 did a good job that I think maybe even you 1544 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,159 could cut one episode for some setup and stuff, right 1545 01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:10,920 that even though they are only twenty minut episodes or 1546 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,719 stuff like even the Oscar episode. For me, it's like 1547 01:08:13,559 --> 01:08:15,599 a lot of this was just kind of fine, right, 1548 01:08:15,719 --> 01:08:17,960 And it also is based upon we'll see what happens 1549 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,880 down the road, right if they take time for me 1550 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,840 to kind of mean and get to know cho But 1551 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,760 we never really do with them anything with them that's 1552 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,640 gonna hurt it or help it if they do some 1553 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,239 of them, So I don't know that that's a tough 1554 01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:31,720 thing when it's a you know, this is definitely a 1555 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:36,399 season where they they kill the threat of Scorpion and 1556 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,640 even the symbiode, but does not feel like you could 1557 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,319 stop watching the show and be fulfilled. 1558 01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 5: Right. 1559 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,520 Speaker 2: It's one of those where it's like other seasons are 1560 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,239 gonna raise or lower the show for me, But that's 1561 01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:48,359 where I am just under nine eight point seventy five. 1562 01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:51,359 Speaker 4: I feel close us out. 1563 01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:57,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go, uh probably eight point five out 1564 01:08:57,319 --> 01:09:00,399 of ten just because the I'm what. 1565 01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:03,680 Speaker 1: They put. 1566 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised. I thought I'd be lower than you. 1567 01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:12,560 Speaker 5: For me, it's just I mean, I could see myself 1568 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,079 going a nine, but I thought, I think that's too generous. 1569 01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:18,880 The first few episodes, it really did not do a 1570 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,279 great job for me, like pulling me in right away, 1571 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,039 Like it took some time, and I think the first 1572 01:09:24,119 --> 01:09:26,079 week I was like, yeah, I was, I was warm, 1573 01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:28,439 but I wasn't necessarily super hot on it. And after 1574 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,319 that then it was like, Okay, now we're in it. Now. 1575 01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:33,199 I really like what we're getting to where the finale was, 1576 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,600 and I think in retrospect the finale makes the first 1577 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,920 three episodes much better, but I would have liked it 1578 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,960 that those first episodes were already better when I started. 1579 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,720 Speaker 3: The show, right like so. 1580 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 5: So ultimately though, like I I know it's I say, 1581 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,920 eight point five, but I love this show. It's fantastic, 1582 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,840 it's great, and I'm eagerly waiting to rewatch it. I 1583 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,279 was watching it with with my daughter and like she 1584 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,680 was like the intro music and you're talking about Kirk 1585 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,760 and now she's dancing to it and like she's loving 1586 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,800 it and and all that. So I don't feel like 1587 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,279 the show holds back necessarily too much either. When you 1588 01:10:10,399 --> 01:10:14,359 got like Spider Man being stabbed by Scorpion being rushed 1589 01:10:14,399 --> 01:10:16,479 to like yer, it's like holy shit, Like okay, so 1590 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,600 they definitely take some risks here, and I'm excited to 1591 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,760 see where this will go in season two. 1592 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 4: So bravo, kudos, beautiful. 1593 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,520 Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, that's season one of your 1594 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,479 friendly neighborhood. Spider Man. Will be back for next season 1595 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,159 when we have a rough estimated time when they're no, I'm. 1596 01:10:35,039 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 2: Hoping next year, but a game with an animation, you 1597 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,720 never know, like also the Vinci Bal I think ninety 1598 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,239 seven's like twenty twenty six, so we could be waiting 1599 01:10:42,279 --> 01:10:44,960 to this. I don't know, but at least we got 1600 01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:47,760 something tangential with Like, you know, we're gonna talking about Daredevil. 1601 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,520 He was in the show, so that starts in two weeks, 1602 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,640 so kind of get some New York crime fighting fix, 1603 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,159 you know. So it's like, I get kinkin in the 1604 01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:58,680 show and make them like not comedically like Spider Verse big, 1605 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,439 but make them like no nineties animated show big, so 1606 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,760 that there there's a want for me, Hobgoblin Kingpin. 1607 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 1: Get those guys in there so absolutely they would fit. 1608 01:11:06,039 --> 01:11:08,159 There's room for them. Let the show go on for 1609 01:11:08,359 --> 01:11:12,079 just infinite seasons. Let's let's go. That's the quality drops, 1610 01:11:12,119 --> 01:11:15,439 then yeah, pull the plug. Anyways, we got plenty of content. 1611 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,000 Keep your eyes on the feeds until next time. We'll 1612 01:11:18,039 --> 01:11:18,920 be here and we'll see you. 1613 01:11:20,079 --> 01:11:20,359 Speaker 2: Bye.