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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys are your favorites, so like Shay, subscribe and rade.

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<v Speaker 1>It, lip Star and me just on us today and

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<v Speaker 1>listening watching lim always keep its watching.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Bobo, Hello Cliff. What's happening man? Anything good?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Yeah, a bachelor for the week or for four

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<v Speaker 3>or five days?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure sounds like you love her?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you know, dirty, dirty dishes in the sink, crap

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<v Speaker 3>laying around, that kind of good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the good old days. Yeah, yeah, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Melissa's going going out of town for a while a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later in the spring early summer to go

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<v Speaker 1>storm chasing, and I'm gonna have a few weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>bachelorhood as well. And don't get me wrong, I love

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<v Speaker 1>I love me some Melissa my favorite thing on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also love being alone. Being alone's second only

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<v Speaker 1>to being with my wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you gonna do with your timing? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the woods or anything? Are you stuck working the whole

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<v Speaker 1>time or what's up?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'll go to the woods tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good, good, me too.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have went today, but we had this going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Q and A today, that's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. I enjoy these, of course, I think

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<v Speaker 1>everybody enjoys these. We have quite a few voicemails too,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course everybody listening here, we kind of know

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<v Speaker 1>the routine. You know, if you have a question for us,

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually go to the website or go to

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<v Speaker 1>that link below. But the website is big put and

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond podcast dot com. Hit that link below or a

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<v Speaker 1>Matt prut will put that in the show notes and

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<v Speaker 1>you can go there and you can either type yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a question for us, or you can use our voicemail

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<v Speaker 1>and leave a voicemail for us and listen to your

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful voice on the air with us and we'll answer it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of the deal. Everybody kind of knows

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<v Speaker 1>that at this point. And if we also have a

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<v Speaker 1>membership you many of you are members, we'd appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we do a special member Q and A that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll record right after we're done recording this main episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and that comes out on Thursday of every week. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're interested, go to that link that Matt pro

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<v Speaker 1>will certainly put in the show notes below.

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<v Speaker 2>In honor of Bobo's Penning Batchelor week. I'm gonna because

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<v Speaker 2>I pull these questions in random order, so I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to play the Bobo centric one first.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent, Let's celebrate Bobo together.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, clisten Bobo. I'm a huge fan of your podcast

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<v Speaker 4>and also finding Bigfoot. I'm twenty four years old and

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<v Speaker 4>finding Bigfoot was my childhood and Mountain Monsters and monster quest.

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<v Speaker 4>But my question here for the show goes to Bobo.

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<v Speaker 4>I hear you've had encounters with ghosts and the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 4>which is scarier encountering a ghost or encountering a sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks guys, You guys are awesome. Keep a squatchy, keep

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<v Speaker 4>making more episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it was definitely more freaked out by a South squatch.

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<v Speaker 3>Is when I was the most freaked out I got

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<v Speaker 3>was by a squatch for sure. That first incident I

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<v Speaker 3>had where I didn't see it, but I had that

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<v Speaker 3>crazy audio experience and infra sound, I'm pretty sure, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was that was the most tuning for me. But

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<v Speaker 3>the one like demon encounter I thought I had it

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<v Speaker 3>lucid dreaming, but it sure seemed real and that scared

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<v Speaker 3>the hell out of me too. And what happened that

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<v Speaker 3>one where I was in Hoopa and I thought there

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<v Speaker 3>was like a demon sitting on my chest like squishing me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I couldn't breathe, I couldn't move.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a demon, not a hag they call it.

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<v Speaker 3>They call it hag on the chest, I guess, or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they think they have some name that references

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<v Speaker 1>hags or witches or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But for years I thought it was just totally like

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<v Speaker 3>a real, you know, paranormal experience. And then you know

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<v Speaker 3>the high check I could be with some guys that

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<v Speaker 3>she went to Cornell or Princeton, I can't remember when

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<v Speaker 3>she went corner. I think it was Cornell, some like

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<v Speaker 3>PhD guys and sleep sciences and stuff like that whatever there.

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<v Speaker 3>I figured what kind of PhDs they were, but they

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<v Speaker 3>gave me like some stuff to read on it. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, that's exactly what I had to happen to me,

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<v Speaker 3>like to the t, So I guess that's that's that

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<v Speaker 1>What's the difference freaked out?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, what the hell is that? Or scared?

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<v Speaker 3>Like oh my, you know. I wasn't like ready to

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<v Speaker 3>crack my drawers or nothing like that. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>I was having trouble breathing. It was just like mind blown.

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<v Speaker 1>So fear is you're worried about what your own personal

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<v Speaker 1>safety and freaked out is more bewilderment maybe? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now, on these paranormal sort of encounters, does it

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<v Speaker 1>make sense to you to be fearful for your life,

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<v Speaker 1>your soul, your psyche, your essence? And does that cross

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<v Speaker 1>your mind at all?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. But you know, this person didn't give

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<v Speaker 1>their names. We can't really address them except for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four years old. H thank you twenty four years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your question. And you know, I'm surprised this person

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say grew up watching you, because that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>get all the time from young adults. He said, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys were his childhood. The show was his childhood. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>he did Okay, I was gonna say, because that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>standard from young young adults. It's like, I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>watching you, you know, as this gentleman said my entire

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<v Speaker 1>childhood blah blah blah. I think it's weird being the

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<v Speaker 1>same age as old people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I still think of myself like being pretty young,

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<v Speaker 3>like when I'm just like, oh yeah, you like, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh no, I was old as like as parents. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw something on the Twitter machine that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>said just a reminder that Archie Bunker was forty five

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<v Speaker 1>years old in that show. No way supposedly, Carol.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe Carol O'Connor was probably about the late forties when

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<v Speaker 3>did that show.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a fun nerd fact for you. Carol O'Connor shares

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<v Speaker 2>the scene with the legendary Bruce Lee in the film

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<v Speaker 2>Marlowe starring James car I never knew that. There's your

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Lee factor week brought to you by Hymns.

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<v Speaker 1>Hymns. He had perfect care. Should we mention those shirts?

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<v Speaker 1>You got to be excited about those shirts, man, Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I am super excited about the shirts. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if the listing will be available by the time

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast airs, so you can click the link in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes and if you see anything new, definitely

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<v Speaker 2>we encourage you to check it out. I will say

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<v Speaker 2>what I do know in the interim is that this

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<v Speaker 2>is the last call for the Whoop shirts. So our

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<v Speaker 2>good friend Brandon at Sasquatch Prince they're discontinuing those shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the very last call with the epic

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<v Speaker 2>image of Cliff and Bobo doing the whoop and the

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<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch in the background that was generously given to us

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<v Speaker 2>by a great listener friend of the podcast. And so

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<v Speaker 2>if you dig those shirts, this is your last chance

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<v Speaker 2>to get them, folks, So click that link in the

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<v Speaker 2>show notes. I got two, and make sure you peek

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<v Speaker 2>around and see if there's any new listenings by the

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<v Speaker 2>time this episode drops. Once I know that the listening

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<v Speaker 2>is there, for sure, we'll announce it again. But either way,

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<v Speaker 2>last calling the Whoop shirts, so get them while they're hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what about the regular sort of orange Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>and Beyond shirt with the bigfoot of the microphone, and

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<v Speaker 1>that one's still going to be available. Those are perennial. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>very good, very good. So the Whoop shirts are going

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<v Speaker 1>away and a new one that will hint and just say,

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<v Speaker 1>is Bruce Lee themed is going to take its place? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Prue variant, the Bigfooting Beyond the Big Footed

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond merch line.

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<v Speaker 3>We got like a shirt like just shut up. It

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<v Speaker 3>like a mixing board with the headphones and mike, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we'll sell plenty of them to my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one, sew. I'll bet twenty bucks if you number

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<v Speaker 3>one seller.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see a shirt design where Matt is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the microphone behind and that your ear goggles on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's like almost like a DJ and

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<v Speaker 1>Bobo and I are slow dancing. It'll be a good shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're both let us with our own squatch.

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<v Speaker 1>Or just straight out disco dancing right with the John

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<v Speaker 1>Travolta strike a pose sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's got to be doing the finger guns from

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<v Speaker 2>the Kenny Loggins video and Cliff you have to be skipping,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, or if somebody could do one of you

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<v Speaker 2>guys doing like the high Buddha oh yeah. To our

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<v Speaker 2>creative listeners. See we've been very lucky, like our podcast logo,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, I absolutely love. I think it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we've themed everything on that color scheme. If anybody

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know or if you haven't gone back to the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>like we put the word out to listeners before we

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<v Speaker 1>We had a little teaser episode out there and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd love to crowdsource logo ideas, and a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Douda created that and send it to us, which

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<v Speaker 1>the logo, love that look. So we've been the beneficiaries

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of our talented listeners. So if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>can make a design like Cliff just described and send

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<v Speaker 1>it in, I think it would be epic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like that. I like the the belly buff.

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<v Speaker 3>Cliff and I are both big foots, kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>we're big foot buys with our faces on them and

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<v Speaker 3>prove it DJ and.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely ridiculous. Bobo's trailer in the background. Did I tell you, Bobo.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're bringing it back to the questions in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, but you know, there's a lot of conferences

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, and I was just going over my presentation again.

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing in twenty twenty four. Did I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you Boba that you're The video of you driving away

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't even know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, when I put that up, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>quiet wave of giggles in the audience. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. And of course the people who don't listen,

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<v Speaker 3>So, dude, I gotta I gonna get a little video

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<v Speaker 3>We're written a series of children's books in kindergarten about

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<v Speaker 1>No, I can't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I have laughed the whole time. The kids are drawing

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool. That's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Show offs.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Cliff and Bobo.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Amanda and I'm from Iowa. I'm watching

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<v Speaker 5>TV and I saw that Harry and the Henderson's the

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<v Speaker 5>movie and what impact, if any, you think it had

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<v Speaker 5>on people's persons with Bigfoot and on people in the

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think it's it's safe to say that

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<v Speaker 1>we've all seen it. I mean, right, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Saw it for the first time a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>The first time I saw it was when this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, yeah, what did you think of it?

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<v Speaker 3>I like parts of it for sure, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of gas and other parts, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the hunters based undernated hinting, so I was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>laughing about that. And then there was some stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>was cool that they didn't sasquatch too, much of a

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<v Speaker 3>woos though. That's the one that I didn't like about it.

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<v Speaker 3>No ways, Sasquatch was not that much of a woos

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<v Speaker 3>not a whoss at all, So I didn't like that

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<v Speaker 3>part of it. But there are some like the way

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<v Speaker 3>they did, like the way they disappeared and disappeared at

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's the best scene by far, I think. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it a handful of times, and the most

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<v Speaker 1>recent time I watched it, I went to a screening

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<v Speaker 1>where Rick Baker was making a presentation. We watched that

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<v Speaker 1>movie and another thing he did, I forget what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was down at the Hollywood Theater in Portland, in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood district, but at Portland, Oregon. It is called

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<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood Theater for whatever reason. It's a cool old theater,

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<v Speaker 1>really cool theater. Rick Baker was there, he took questions afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>I found him before the presentation and gave him a

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<v Speaker 1>Gray's Harbor cast and he could care less by the

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<v Speaker 1>looks of his face. Oh los oh, I know seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>which is disappointing to Melissa, of course, because Melissa, being

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<v Speaker 1>a special effects makeup artist. Dash Officionado has always looked

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<v Speaker 1>up to Rick Baker, but when we gave him the cast,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, oh, thanks, and like looked at it like

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell, and gave it to his assistant to

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<v Speaker 1>go put in the car. We're thinking, oh, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>going to end up in some pile somewhere, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe he treasures it. I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't look impressed. He didn't care at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did watch it in his presence lunch, which

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of neat. Of course, he won awards and

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<v Speaker 1>whatnot for the suit and all the work that he

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<v Speaker 1>did on the film. It was a little uncomfortable watching

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<v Speaker 1>the sad old man own owning the Bigfoot museum. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a little uncomfortable for me, But I like being uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course I enjoyed the aide. The hindn't take off.

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<v Speaker 1>But really, I think I think we should go over

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Harry in the Henderson's correspondent Matt prut because didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you just have an hour long debate about this particular

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<v Speaker 1>movie on another podcast with some friends. Yeah. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of our listeners, someone who had read my

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<v Speaker 2>book reached out to me, and he and his friends

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<v Speaker 2>have a great podcast called Reels of Justice, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it's set up like a faux court trial and they

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<v Speaker 2>bring in people to be the quote unquote defense who

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<v Speaker 2>have you know, experience with a particular field of study

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<v Speaker 2>or a field of interest, and so that person has

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<v Speaker 2>to pick a film that has to do with their

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<v Speaker 2>area of study and then defend it as a great film.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he reached out to me like, oh, we'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to have you on to do a Bigfoot film.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's sort of like a segue into talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the subject, and so I thought, man, everyone always picks

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<v Speaker 2>the legend of Boggy Creek, and no one's going to

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<v Speaker 2>do that better than like Lyle or you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot of treatments to that. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do Harry and the Henderson's And so I rewatched

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<v Speaker 2>it and then I was like, oh, man, I probably shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have picked this movie. But we did have a really

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<v Speaker 1>fun time. I got to be very fun and playful

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<v Speaker 1>in the court trial part of it, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>had a long, fun discussion. So if you check out

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast Reels of Justice, episode four forty one The

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<v Speaker 1>People Versus Harry and the Henderson's. You could hear by

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<v Speaker 1>take on the film in a very playful, facetious way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great band name, by the way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>The People Versus Harry and the Henderson's.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sure, it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a lot of fun. I think it came

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<v Speaker 1>out March twentieth, so it was pretty recent. But I

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<v Speaker 1>had a blast. Really appreciate those guys having me on

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<v Speaker 1>and it was super fun, well cool, very good man,

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<v Speaker 1>very good. I hope that answers your question, Amanda, Stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be right back after these messages. So three to

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<v Speaker 1>six months doesn't seem like a long time right in

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot Land. It's not very long because we've been looking

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<v Speaker 1>for sasquatches for decades and decades and decades. But when

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<v Speaker 1>of course, And how much do you think is going

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<v Speaker 1>to get done during that time? In squatching you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see one in six months? Probably not, but in

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, Cliff, Bobo and Matt. This is Matthew in Eastern Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm an outdoorsman, birdwatching nerd naturalist, fairly new to the

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<v Speaker 6>bigfoot phenomenon last couple of years or so, trying to

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<v Speaker 6>learn more about it, and I have there's so much

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<v Speaker 6>out there, so many podcasts and this and that and

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<v Speaker 6>the other. I've really kind of pulled back to Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 6>and Beyond and made you guys the hub at which

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<v Speaker 6>I listen, and then based on who your guests are,

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<v Speaker 6>based on what your topics are, then I kind of

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<v Speaker 6>researched those particular things. In that vein, I came across

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<v Speaker 6>the nine one one tapes in Washington where the gentleman

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<v Speaker 6>calls in to nine one one his dog has been killed,

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<v Speaker 6>and then later calls in again. It's such crazy, compelling evidence.

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<v Speaker 6>It sounds real. I'm just fascinated by it. Could you

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<v Speaker 6>guys please comment on the nine to one one tapes

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<v Speaker 6>in Washington what your thoughts are? And then have you

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<v Speaker 6>ever met that gentleman? Has he really been interviewed, what's

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<v Speaker 6>more of the backstory. I would love to hear it.

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<v Speaker 6>I would love to hear that guy interviewed about his experiences.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks guy, He's talked to you later, Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Ron Moorehead tracked him down and had a

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<v Speaker 3>long conversation with him, and someone else talked to him too.

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<v Speaker 3>He's totally avoided any kind of limelight. Yeah, Well, here's

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<v Speaker 3>what happened a few weeks before that his dog had

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<v Speaker 3>been killed. It was he got there because of what

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<v Speaker 3>was going on out there, like you know, sasquatch activity.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't know what it was, but he got a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of trained German Shepherd attack dogs, like big hundred

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<v Speaker 3>that thing was out there and is here the big

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just crunching smacks sound in a yape, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And then all of a sudden, his dog's dead body

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<v Speaker 3>got thrown over the hedge. And Ron went there and

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<v Speaker 3>saw the yard and everything. He said, there's no way there,

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<v Speaker 3>There's just it was way too far, just is too

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<v Speaker 3>high when it came in. Yeah, I forget. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>know this? Do you guys remember the story about how

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<v Speaker 3>Ron even heard about the tape? Who told him about it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how Ron it was brought to Ron's attention.

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<v Speaker 2>All I remember about is Kitsap County or Kitsap Peninsula.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess Ron's the only source for that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I while listening to your question, Matthew,

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<v Speaker 1>it did strike me it's like, Yeah, a newcomer to

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<v Speaker 1>And if he finds somebody, and he found us, and

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, and kind of bounce off where we

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<v Speaker 1>so big that I can't I certainly don't pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to it. It's just too much. It's a bunch of

421
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<v Speaker 1>just white noise, very weak, you know, signal in the

422
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<v Speaker 1>middle of all that is anything of value because everybody's

423
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<v Speaker 1>out there pointing to themselves and screaming. You know, you

424
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<v Speaker 1>can't even hear the bigfoot screaming over the screaming of

425
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<v Speaker 1>all the bigfooters. So I sympathize with you as far

426
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<v Speaker 1>as that goes. I'm glad you found us, and I

427
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<v Speaker 1>hope that we don't see in the wrong direction or

428
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<v Speaker 1>anything like that.

429
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's there's a there's a lot of podcasts or show.

430
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<v Speaker 3>I started getting into one, like I was all psyched,

431
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<v Speaker 3>and I said I was going to bring it up

432
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<v Speaker 3>on the show, and then I heard it's like they

433
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<v Speaker 3>just kind of avalcamate all those reports and just there's

434
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<v Speaker 3>no like interviews or you don't hear the witness talk.

435
00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:39.400
<v Speaker 3>They just read the reports. And I was like, Oh,

436
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<v Speaker 3>this is cool because I actually they read one of

437
00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:44.319
<v Speaker 3>the reports I had done a long time ago, and

438
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<v Speaker 3>they read reports of people I know that were the

439
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<v Speaker 3>subject of the report, of the person that took the report.

440
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<v Speaker 3>I remember them tell me about it, like, you know,

441
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<v Speaker 3>all the details that.

442
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<v Speaker 1>I heard them.

443
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<v Speaker 3>They're also reading like known fake So that really bummed

444
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<v Speaker 3>me out. I was like, oh man, I was just

445
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<v Speaker 3>getting really into this show. Another let's read you know,

446
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:05.480
<v Speaker 3>known Hoolks has known things that shouldn't be repeated as

447
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<v Speaker 3>you know, factual or real.

448
00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if it if it gets ears on their podcast

449
00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:12.839
<v Speaker 1>or eyeballs on their channel, I don't think they care

450
00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:17.519
<v Speaker 1>so much clickbait. It looks real, and maybe it's very

451
00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:19.519
<v Speaker 1>possible that the people putting it out even think it's

452
00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:23.119
<v Speaker 1>real because they're also new to the big foot field.

453
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<v Speaker 2>That was the crux of my entire presentation at the NABC.

454
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I can definitely sympathize with that too. Is

455
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<v Speaker 2>that you know, there is a center, there is a foundation,

456
00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:37.000
<v Speaker 2>the sort of axioms of the sasquatch phenomenon and the

457
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<v Speaker 2>study thereof. But we all enter the territory from the fringes,

458
00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, and so there's so much noise at those

459
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<v Speaker 2>fringes that a lot of people don't even realize, Like, no,

460
00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:47.680
<v Speaker 2>there is a center, and there is a foundation, and

461
00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:50.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of us are trying hard to maintain that

462
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<v Speaker 2>and to lead people to it and to be good

463
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<v Speaker 2>compasses that point to it.

464
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<v Speaker 1>But it's not easy, and for whatever it's worth, I

465
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<v Speaker 1>don't think it ever goes away. Now there's some version

466
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<v Speaker 1>of that. I'm grappling with a version of that right

467
00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:07.880
<v Speaker 1>now with some some you know, stuff that's crossed my

468
00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:10.559
<v Speaker 1>plate recently. It's like, and at the end of the day,

469
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<v Speaker 1>what I've decided upon for myself, you know, because I

470
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<v Speaker 1>don't know I back up a moment. So many people

471
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<v Speaker 1>bring me and I'm sure Matt and Bobo would back

472
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<v Speaker 1>have their same experience, the same experience in their lives.

473
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<v Speaker 1>They bring me stuff to show me, and they want

474
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<v Speaker 1>me to go, oh my god, this is the most

475
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<v Speaker 1>amazing thing ever. They want that validation, they want that attention,

476
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<v Speaker 1>they want something, They want something some sort of positive

477
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<v Speaker 1>feedback from me, and I rarely give it, you know, honestly.

478
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<v Speaker 1>And it's not because like maybe a footprint cast or

479
00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:43.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, a siding report or something like that doesn't

480
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<v Speaker 1>deserve it. It's like, oh, yeah, that's cool, that's rad.

481
00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:49.119
<v Speaker 1>And but who was I talking about? Maybe maybe it

482
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<v Speaker 1>was Wes or somebody like that. I was talking to somebody,

483
00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:55.240
<v Speaker 1>and and but it always comes down to this, now,

484
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<v Speaker 1>what right? Like what does this mean?

485
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<v Speaker 3>Like?

486
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<v Speaker 1>What is now? What do we do with that? Where

487
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:01.079
<v Speaker 1>do we go from here with this sort of thing?

488
00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.240
<v Speaker 1>And for the most part, there's no answer to that.

489
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<v Speaker 1>You just wait for the next one. And So for

490
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<v Speaker 1>me and my own research and what I'm trying to

491
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<v Speaker 1>do and what I'm not trying to accomplish anything except

492
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<v Speaker 1>or learn about them. So I guess for what I'm

493
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<v Speaker 1>trying to accomplish. When people bring me things and whatever else,

494
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's real, I don't know if

495
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<v Speaker 1>they're being hoaxed. I don't know if it's a misaiding.

496
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know any of this thing. I can look

497
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<v Speaker 1>at it and go that I like that, I don't

498
00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. But that's just Cliff's opinion. And I may

499
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<v Speaker 1>have some experience, but I'm no expert in anything. Really,

500
00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I may have some more experience than some other people

501
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<v Speaker 1>because I'm an old man and I've been doing this

502
00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>a long time. So at the end of the day,

503
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<v Speaker 1>what I've the point I've come to is if I

504
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<v Speaker 1>didn't find it, and I like a piece of evidence,

505
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<v Speaker 1>if I didn't, if it doesn't directly come from me

506
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<v Speaker 1>or somebody I personally know pretty well, kind of doesn't

507
00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:55.519
<v Speaker 1>matter anymore. You know, I know they're there. I know

508
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:57.240
<v Speaker 1>lots of people see them a lot more than most

509
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<v Speaker 1>people realize, and a lot of people have encounters and

510
00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:03.240
<v Speaker 1>experiences and stuff. And at the end of the day,

511
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<v Speaker 1>now what But if I'm in my area and I

512
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<v Speaker 1>find something cool, well, then I have a now what?

513
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Then?

514
00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Now what is? Oh? Now I build a strategy based

515
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.759
<v Speaker 1>around this particular area, and what am I going to

516
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:20.200
<v Speaker 1>do about it? Then I can start building a plan.

517
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<v Speaker 1>But oh, I saw one in I don't know wherever,

518
00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, in Kidsap County, like the nine one one call.

519
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:29.759
<v Speaker 1>All right, Now, what am I going to start going

520
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:31.880
<v Speaker 1>driving three and a half hours of kids app you

521
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>know every week? I doubt it, And so I would

522
00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:38.319
<v Speaker 1>focus on that, And as far as getting lost in

523
00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the very noisy wilderness of people scream and look at me,

524
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<v Speaker 1>I would focus on what you can do there in

525
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<v Speaker 1>eastern Oklahoma there, Matthew, and make your own experiences. Yeah,

526
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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting, especially when you're new. It's interesting to hear

527
00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>other people's experiences. But you don't know about I mean

528
00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:58.839
<v Speaker 1>strangers especially. You don't know if they're legit. You don't

529
00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>know if they're exaggerating. You don't know, if they observe

530
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:03.119
<v Speaker 1>something correctly. You don't know if they have language skills

531
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<v Speaker 1>to communicate what they did observe. You don't know. If

532
00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:07.839
<v Speaker 1>they're nuts. You don't know, if they're sad and lonely,

533
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't know, if they're exaggerating. There's too many I

534
00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:13.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know's in there. So focus on what you have,

535
00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:16.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, focus on what you find and see where

536
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:18.319
<v Speaker 1>that takes you. That's the best advice I can give

537
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.319
<v Speaker 1>any bigfooter as far as going through the weeds and

538
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<v Speaker 1>finding your way home.

539
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I hear like podcasts like they're getting all

540
00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 3>popular now, Like the person just got in a big

541
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<v Speaker 3>foot a couple of years ago, and they're always you

542
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.279
<v Speaker 3>months ago and they're giving their opinion on stuff. I'm like,

543
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:36.519
<v Speaker 3>got to hate that. It's like you have no background

544
00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:39.039
<v Speaker 3>of this at all, and like now you're just senating

545
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<v Speaker 3>opinion and things. And I mean, everyone is in toet

546
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:44.359
<v Speaker 3>their opinion, but if you don't know what you're talking about,

547
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:47.119
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't doesn't mean much. But if you hype up

548
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:50.680
<v Speaker 3>stories that are we could make this podcast so much

549
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.319
<v Speaker 3>bigger if we did all the clickbait stuff and blah

550
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.200
<v Speaker 3>blah blah. I mean, but I just I just hate

551
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:59.359
<v Speaker 3>that stuff, Like I hate. I hate when it's not

552
00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:03.440
<v Speaker 3>just based on I can hear an knowledgeable host whatever

553
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:04.240
<v Speaker 3>the subject is.

554
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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the other things that I had in

555
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<v Speaker 1>my presentation for last year's presentation because I usually it's like, hey,

556
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<v Speaker 1>what's not the NABC last year? This is what I've

557
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:14.920
<v Speaker 1>been doing that lately because there's so much and I

558
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 1>want people to know what we're doing, you know. But

559
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.839
<v Speaker 1>last year we had some photographs donated to the NABC,

560
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<v Speaker 1>and the photographs were of Bob Tipmos casting the nineteen

561
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<v Speaker 1>sixty three high impalm prints. You know, you could see

562
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 1>them in the ground drawing in front of Bob Tipmos

563
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>kneeling on the ground. Fantastic photographs thanks to doctor Russ Jones,

564
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>who I think is a listener own a semi regular basis,

565
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>so he scored those for the NABC and on the

566
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:47.599
<v Speaker 1>back of the photograph and pencil is written something in

567
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<v Speaker 1>terms of this is this is Bob Tipmos tracking mister Bigfoot.

568
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<v Speaker 1>He's been tracking Bigfoot for five years. And I always

569
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<v Speaker 1>show that side of the photograph when I do the presentation,

570
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:02.279
<v Speaker 1>and those pictures are in the presentation. I said five years.

571
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.880
<v Speaker 1>And remember, mind you, this is nineteen sixty three. You

572
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 1>could only be bigfooting for five years at that point

573
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>because the word bigfoot was coined in nineteen fifty eight,

574
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.319
<v Speaker 1>five years before. And I bring that up. I said, yeah, yeah,

575
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 1>five years. At the time, that was as long as

576
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:18.559
<v Speaker 1>you could have been doing it. And then I go

577
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.599
<v Speaker 1>on to say, just to just to poke the audience

578
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 1>and make them a little uncomfortable, because I'm that kind

579
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 1>of guy, I say, but nowadays, you're big footing for

580
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:28.759
<v Speaker 1>five years, you're new and very often I hear a

581
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 1>very uncomfortable, you know, rumble of you know, discomfort and

582
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 1>laughter in the audience because of that. But it's true

583
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>nowadays It's totally true. And there's nothing wrong with being

584
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>new either. I want to point that out. You should

585
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>always accept where you are in your journey because that's

586
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>the only way you can get you can move forward.

587
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:49.599
<v Speaker 1>But five years nowadays, yeah, you're kind of new, and

588
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.400
<v Speaker 1>it's appropriate to act like it. But it's also appropriate

589
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>to want to be seen as perhaps more experience than

590
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 1>you are. And I think that's what we get in

591
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot of podcasters stuff nowadays. But that's cool. There's

592
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with being new man, there's nothing wrong. Can

593
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you imagine stumbling into Bigfoot nowadays?

594
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Like the just.

595
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>The it's of course a double edged sword. There is

596
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>all this like white noise and meaningless garble and stuff

597
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>in the background. But also what a wealth of information

598
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>there is? What a true wealth of information?

599
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 3>Now?

600
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>If the Skukum gas is old news now, you know,

601
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember when it came out, you know, like all

602
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>these things that are that are old ancient history now

603
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that has been studied and beat the death in a

604
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of cases, all that's at your fingertips. Where we're like,

605
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.559
<v Speaker 1>when we're into this and we're brand new, we had

606
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 1>to wait for anything cool to happen for a long time.

607
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have trouble. We have trouble going through ourselves.

608
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean like we've got a ton of experience, like

609
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:46.279
<v Speaker 3>knowing who's who and this and that and that, but

610
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's sort of stuff I go like, God,

611
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>what like I'm looking to listen to something or like

612
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:53.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, being able to watch a video for like

613
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 3>a half hour hour before I go to bet or something,

614
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I'll look for some of like God,

615
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.359
<v Speaker 3>there's so much, so much. Shot have to get to

616
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:06.960
<v Speaker 3>the weak. Yeah, so if you're new, it really really difficult.

617
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really would. So I'm glad math. I mean,

618
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that we're the saviors, we're the best

619
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>authorities out there or anything like that, you know, because

620
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I have people that I go to and I listen

621
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to very closely. But we'll always do our best. At

622
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:21.319
<v Speaker 1>least you're a big thing to be on not to

623
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>steer you in the wrong direction.

624
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would recommend go and listen to that club

625
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.599
<v Speaker 2>post book Club episode. I think I ended up that

626
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>that was like episode two ninety nine, And you know,

627
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<v Speaker 2>we mentioned a lot of books in there, but we

628
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<v Speaker 2>talk about our essentials and those are mentors that you

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<v Speaker 2>can query for the rest of your life. I mean

630
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<v Speaker 2>the top five books that I have, I reread those

631
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 2>every year, and some of them I've had for you know, decades,

632
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>a couple of decades, so you know, they're endless wells

633
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 2>of good information and so start there.

634
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's a great foundation too.

635
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to just be stuck to you know,

636
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 2>what can be poured into your eyes or ears via

637
00:29:58.200 --> 00:29:59.039
<v Speaker 2>a screen.

638
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Like those books are great, great resources. There's a reason

639
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.119
<v Speaker 1>we talk about them so frequently. Yeah, and get your

640
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>eyes off a screen. I think it's probably one of

641
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the best things you can do, unless you read your

642
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>books on your screen, in which case, keep your eyes

643
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>on it. But yeah, always go books first, man, read books.

644
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>There's there's actually a gift out there. I think our

645
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 1>friend Jeff Thomas made it. I could be incorrect about that.

646
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 1>With Bobo and I in it. Boba's wearing a very

647
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 1>very handsome looking hat, by the way, and I think

648
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I leaned towards the camera and I had to say,

649
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:31.039
<v Speaker 1>read books. And that sums up ninety percent of my

650
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>advice in bigfoot Land, you know, read books. Stay tuned

651
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 1>for more Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and Bobo. We'll

652
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages. All right, should we

653
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>hop onto the next question? Let's do it.

654
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.279
<v Speaker 2>And this is a familiar voice, friend of the podcast

655
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>and longtime friend of you guys. So here is the

656
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:56.480
<v Speaker 2>next voicemail.

657
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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, it's Mike.

658
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<v Speaker 7>How you guys all doing, Cliff Bubba, my friends are

659
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 7>all doing well today? I got a quick question for

660
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 7>you guys.

661
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think?

662
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.160
<v Speaker 7>Me and my girlfriend have a conversation about big one

663
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.000
<v Speaker 7>stuff like that, and we got into a thought of

664
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 7>when Bigfoot is proven to be a real creature, and

665
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, let's say people have the encounter with them

666
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:20.400
<v Speaker 7>and they get injured or hurt or worse or does

667
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 7>damage to their property or something like that. Do you

668
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 7>think there's gonna be bigfoot insurance? Do you think of like, oh, well,

669
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:30.359
<v Speaker 7>you got Bigfoot that destroyed your friends all all your

670
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 7>your bigfoot insurance covers the kind of thing.

671
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

672
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 7>I'm wondering if that will ever be if that will

673
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 7>ever be a thing or will be something else? All right,

674
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 7>see you guys, love you.

675
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have that problem.

676
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just be a homeowner's insurance claimate, say as a

677
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 3>bear did it? Or vandals people or whatever? Yeah?

678
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Is there are there insurances for other kinds of animals

679
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:52.279
<v Speaker 1>like deer or something?

680
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Nah?

681
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't. I've never heard of that. There's storm

682
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>insurance and flood insurance and fire insurance and you know

683
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. But I don't know if there's

684
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 1>an specific animal kind of like you're a fisherman, or

685
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>is there a shark insurance or you know, killer whale insurance?

686
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

687
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 3>So.

688
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my guess, Mike is that they probably wouldn't have

689
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.799
<v Speaker 1>some sort of bigfoot insurance. It'd probably be really cheap

690
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>though if they did, because they don't really do much

691
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>to you, And then the people who may or you

692
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>know who may actually run into extraordinarily aggressive sasquatches and

693
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>get killed by them or neat and we don't hear

694
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 1>from them.

695
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there a news story a few years ago where

696
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 2>a woman tried to claim that she'd hit a sasquatch

697
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>with her car. Wasn't that in Idaho?

698
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.519
<v Speaker 3>No? She said that she said the sasquatch flushed deer

699
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:39.480
<v Speaker 3>in front of her car.

700
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh, was that what it was? I do remember she

701
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:43.640
<v Speaker 2>tried to file it on her insurance. I'll see if

702
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:45.240
<v Speaker 2>I can find that new story and I'll put the

703
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Speaker 2>link in the show notes if I can find it.

704
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>But I do have a vague memory of that news story.

705
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, here's the next question.

706
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 8>Well, I guess I'm going to be a regular. This

707
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 8>is Christina again. I have a question. I was watching

708
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<v Speaker 8>an episode of Fine Bigfoot and Bobo made the comment

709
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 8>that sometimes they mess up and they step in the

710
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.400
<v Speaker 8>mud and leave the footprint, which made me think that

711
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.799
<v Speaker 8>Bobo was thinking that they actively tried to hide their

712
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:16.079
<v Speaker 8>footprints from us. And I always assumed that they didn't

713
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 8>like to trial cameras because of the INFRED light. But

714
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 8>is there a way that they could know that we

715
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.720
<v Speaker 8>can see them on that and that's why they're avoiding it?

716
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 8>And Bobo, I was also wondering with you. You mentioned

717
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:29.440
<v Speaker 8>in a previous episode that they were asking you to

718
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 8>come to Willow Creek in July, and I already have

719
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:34.440
<v Speaker 8>my cottage booked, so I'm hoping you will be there.

720
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 8>Cliff Matt, it would be great if you guys could

721
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 8>all be there. Thank you for everything you do.

722
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot there to unpack.

723
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what's going on in July and Willow

724
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Creek exactly. This that's big foot Days. I thought that

725
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 3>was September or August. Yeah, they definitely avoiding their footprints

726
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.880
<v Speaker 3>if possible. I mean, for how much they're around and

727
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 3>how you know, for you know, there's thousands of them

728
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 3>in North America, and the miles and miles they walk

729
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 3>every day, every week every year, you expect to be

730
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 3>more track find stories, but really there's not. There's not

731
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.760
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of track finds. There's more sightings reported

732
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 3>than track finds. But yeah, I mean, like mountain lions

733
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 3>avoid leaving their tracks. I guess coyotes and wolves are

734
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.159
<v Speaker 3>conscious of it, but mountain limes, like the is it

735
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 3>tigers too, that will avoid leaving tracks forritt you to.

736
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Know that, well, it just it really depends, like in

737
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the areas where tigers roam, there's not

738
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of track traps. You know, at certain places,

739
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.800
<v Speaker 2>obviously there might be roads cut that would be good

740
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>track traps or track beds that they would leave. And

741
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>so there's plenty of biologists who study tigers primarily based

742
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 2>on their tracks. But you know, obviously in most of

743
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 2>their home ranges, They're just not going to be places

744
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:47.840
<v Speaker 2>to leave tracks. I think the same would be true

745
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:51.679
<v Speaker 2>if Sasquatches where like, you know, what percentage of viable

746
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch habitat would retain a track that the layperson would

747
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:59.360
<v Speaker 2>immediately recognize because most people are not trackers and most

748
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 2>people aren't even looking, So it has to be something

749
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>that like calls out to the average person. I would

750
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:08.599
<v Speaker 2>say it's like an infinitesimally small percent a viable Sasquatch

751
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>habitat in North America that would hold retain a track

752
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 2>that someone could identify even beyond whether they hide them

753
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:15.920
<v Speaker 2>or not.

754
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 3>And come across. I mean, like I'm talking like like

755
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.760
<v Speaker 3>you know a dirt logging road or you know a

756
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.840
<v Speaker 3>well used pathway or something like that. I mean, if

757
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:26.400
<v Speaker 3>they're out the middle of the woodom that they worry

758
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 3>about it absolutely.

759
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean so many places, like most of

760
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:32.639
<v Speaker 2>the places that I go in the East, all the

761
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 2>force roads are graveled and they're hard packed, and so

762
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 2>they're just not good track traps. And most of our waterways,

763
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, we don't have big exposed sandbars or a

764
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 2>lot of muddy areas, and so it's just not there's

765
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.039
<v Speaker 2>not many tracks from the east for that reason, not

766
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>because the things aren't around walking on substrate. It's just

767
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 2>that we don't have the right kind of substrate that

768
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 2>you guys are blessed within the Northwest and other parts

769
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 2>of the Inner Mountain West.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, I would agree with that,

771
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't. I don't think there's a lot of

772
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>great tracking substrate out where I am. I mean, I've

773
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>taken you to some of the spots and shown you

774
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>where we've been pulling tracks and stuff, and the tracks

775
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 1>that are even there are hard to see and they're

776
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>in mud. Oh that's my point.

777
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like to the to the lay person, like what

778
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 2>would call out to you know, the things that you're

779
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.639
<v Speaker 2>finding because you are specifically tuning your eyes for that,

780
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.360
<v Speaker 2>you're looking for a certain size of certain shape, and

781
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you're in active areas and so you're you're having to

782
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 2>do a lot more seeking. But you know, the lay

783
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.320
<v Speaker 2>person is just wandering through an environment and they'll walk

784
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 2>past a million things like that. They won't even ping

785
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:38.760
<v Speaker 2>on their radars to stay relevant to them until they

786
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:43.079
<v Speaker 2>see a clear five toed manlike track that's too large

787
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 2>to be a person. You know, they'd probably walk right

788
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.639
<v Speaker 2>past juvenile tracks and think, oh, i'd there a barefoot

789
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.000
<v Speaker 2>dude run around out here. It's only when they see

790
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.239
<v Speaker 2>those things, that's what I mean. Like the kind of

791
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.559
<v Speaker 2>substrate that would hold a clear track for a long

792
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:57.199
<v Speaker 2>time that a lay person could stumble across that would

793
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 2>call their attention to it.

794
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 3>That'd be big too for the average person to notice,

795
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 3>like because everyone else. I mean, I'm sure I know

796
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 3>I've walked past big foot tracks. I'm sure that, like

797
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's like an outline like just the same

798
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:09.880
<v Speaker 3>size as my foot are a little bit smaller, and

799
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I just don't pay attention. There's no details of toes

800
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 3>or something like like leaping out right away. I'm probably

801
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 3>just you know, blown right by on.

802
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean remember that the track that I showed

803
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>you at our spot Bobo when you were out and

804
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 1>I do think that was a track when the above

805
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 1>the above the road on the hill there, it had

806
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a couple of toes and everything. But that's the stand.

807
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>That's a really good looking track, and most of them

808
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>aren't even that good. So most you know, ninety eight

809
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 1>percent of everybody is not going to see these things

810
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 1>in the ground, They're just not They're just going to

811
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.599
<v Speaker 1>walk right past them. And there's so few, there's so

812
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>little tracking substrate available. We want them to walk on

813
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:50.639
<v Speaker 1>the edge of a beautiful lake with no reeds or grass,

814
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, but those are rare too, Like where you

815
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 1>going to find that for the most part, And you know,

816
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 1>I've got this one spot we call it the outer

817
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Rim because it's so far away. I have found there's

818
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.599
<v Speaker 1>three sasquatches that we know of in that area. Based

819
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.280
<v Speaker 1>on the footprint sizes, there's seventeen, there's a fourteen, and

820
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.679
<v Speaker 1>about an eight or ten somewhere in there. I have

821
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.400
<v Speaker 1>found all three of them in mud out there. I

822
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.159
<v Speaker 1>mean they were old and they were deteriorated by the

823
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.159
<v Speaker 1>time I got them, and it was standing water, so

824
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:19.559
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't a lot of detail in them, but you

825
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:24.119
<v Speaker 1>can see toes there were things there, and those particular

826
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.559
<v Speaker 1>locations honestly don't hold the tracks very long, so you

827
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>have to be there in a certain window in order

828
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>to see them. In this particular case, a spring was

829
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 1>coming down like a seep was coming down on an

830
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 1>old abandoned logging road full of weeds and grass, and

831
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 1>whatever else all that stuff, and this whole stretch was

832
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:47.159
<v Speaker 1>very very muddy, and there's water slowly trickling through it.

833
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:49.719
<v Speaker 1>And these tracks were in standing water basically where there

834
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>were standing water in the tracks, I should say, and

835
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.760
<v Speaker 1>remember that water is in fact moving, even if it's

836
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>moving slowly, and nothing will destroy a track faster than

837
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>moving water. Even those were that were in the in

838
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the mud itself, they don't last long. And soon the

839
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>toe definition is going to be gone, and soon soon

840
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the shape is going to be all distorted and wonky,

841
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and the silts is going to settle in the bottom

842
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of the track, so it doesn't even look like a

843
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 1>track anymore.

844
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:16.159
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

845
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:20.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's just so hard. And you know what, something

846
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:23.159
<v Speaker 1>I've asked this is something this exact question, Kristen has

847
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>been perplexing and perplexing me for a while because and

848
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.079
<v Speaker 1>I think I have a possible answer to some of this,

849
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's it goes back to my dog again. Sochi,

850
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.119
<v Speaker 1>my dog will go out of her way to not

851
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 1>walk in mud. She doesn't like it, you know, she'll

852
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 1>walk off everywhere else, she'll walk through thorns. She's not

853
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>that smart, but she doesn't like to walk in mud.

854
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, I kind of wonder maybe that's the

855
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.280
<v Speaker 1>same for sasquatches. You know, maybe they're aware that they

856
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 1>leave good tracks, maybe they're not. Maybe they just don't

857
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:53.679
<v Speaker 1>like it. Maybe they don't like wet feet in that

858
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of way, like muddy nasty. I have no idea,

859
00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 1>None of us do. So you can be out there thinking, oh,

860
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:01.400
<v Speaker 1>cliss full of it or whatever. You don't know either.

861
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think all these questions are viable questions that

862
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>deserve some sort of exploration. But I have found all

863
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>three of those animals footprints, the seventeen to fourteen and

864
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>the eight or so in mud, So you know, I

865
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>guess I can't avoid they could totally avoid it in

866
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 1>this place. What am I thinking they could totally avoid

867
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:21.159
<v Speaker 1>it in this place? I don't know. So I think

868
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a good question. I wish I knew the answer

869
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:26.400
<v Speaker 1>for it. But I think the answer is honestly in

870
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that most of the substrate is not that and not

871
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:34.559
<v Speaker 1>that kind of beautiful substrate that I would really like

872
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.760
<v Speaker 1>them to step in. Therefore, most sasquatch footprints are not

873
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:40.559
<v Speaker 1>in that. I think it has to do with the

874
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>rarity of that kind of substrate. In the territory that

875
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>they roam around in. I think that they're more likely

876
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>to be on the hillsides than at the river bottoms.

877
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they're more likely to be up above the

878
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>low lens that hold those sort of things, looking for

879
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:59.039
<v Speaker 1>the deer and stuff below, using that terrain to their advantage,

880
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>using the strategic terrain in their area to find out

881
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 1>what else is in the area. There's water up on

882
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>those hills too. They don't need to come to the

883
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 1>rivers to drink. There's little seeps and stuff. And in fact,

884
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>one of my best spots is this puddle on a

885
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>road and right above the road. I think I took

886
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:18.519
<v Speaker 1>you there, Matt. The puddle on the road is only

887
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 1>because there's a seep coming out where this giant tree

888
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:25.239
<v Speaker 1>fell down, and then that exposed seep underneath their little spring,

889
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and the water's trickling down and drooling and pulling up

890
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.119
<v Speaker 1>on this old abandoned logging road before it goes down

891
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 1>to the creek below. They like that water for some reason.

892
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>And again I think that goes back to the dogs

893
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 1>in my neighborhood too. Maybe not my dog, but my

894
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>neighbor's dog. I've got several springs on my property between

895
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 1>my house and my neighbor's house, and my neighbor's dogs

896
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>will will totally avoid one of the springs, but go

897
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>out of their way to not only drink from the

898
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 1>other spring, but the plan in it. There's something about

899
00:41:56.519 --> 00:42:00.199
<v Speaker 1>that first spring they don't like, but they love that

900
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.800
<v Speaker 1>second spring. And I'm wondering, maybe this Huddle Road thing,

901
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's something similar going on there. Maybe that water

902
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:10.079
<v Speaker 1>just tastes better, maybe there's some sort of mineral in it.

903
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And that road is where we get the vast majority

904
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.199
<v Speaker 1>of the mud prints that I've pulled in my life

905
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 1>at least, and I could show you some of these tracks. Man,

906
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty messy because again there's water flowing through it,

907
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and that water destroys the shape of the track in

908
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that mud very very quickly.

909
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:28.679
<v Speaker 3>As far as the cameras, I used to think that

910
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.880
<v Speaker 3>they might know what they were, like, I was pretty sure, like, well,

911
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:35.039
<v Speaker 3>because I'm convinced they have language and they're smarter than

912
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.159
<v Speaker 3>people things in that regards. And I used to think like, well,

913
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, because they we know they watched TV and

914
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.480
<v Speaker 3>they you know, do their peep and tom thing through

915
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 3>the window because We've talked to a few people that

916
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 3>have were watching finding Bigfoot within the ground with the Bigfoot,

917
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 3>like the animated Bigfoot with growl with the commercial breaks

918
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 3>saying here like a oh at the window, you know,

919
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:56.760
<v Speaker 3>like a grow back. And they found, you know, footprints

920
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.679
<v Speaker 3>outside their window, like fifteen and sixteen inch tracks whatever.

921
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.400
<v Speaker 3>So I used to think, like, oh, yeah, they probably

922
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, they saw Patty walking on TV, and you know,

923
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.119
<v Speaker 3>like they must say, like, you know, they're getting this

924
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 3>footage somehow. Maybe that's why they get so freaked out

925
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.639
<v Speaker 3>on cameras. But I'm thinking that less and less.

926
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Now, good, good job, Bobo. I think they do right.

927
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.320
<v Speaker 1>And most people who deploy trail cameras tie a camera

928
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>to a tree and sometimes even put a metal box

929
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>around them. They keep bears from eating them and people

930
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.599
<v Speaker 1>from stealing them, because bears love the smell of plastics,

931
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 1>turns out, and they're more than happy to eat anything

932
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>they like the smell of. But I think that's as

933
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:36.760
<v Speaker 1>far as you need to go. There's a square box

934
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.960
<v Speaker 1>on a tree that's a human thing. Humans are generally

935
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>no good avoided. I think that's as far as you

936
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 1>need to go. They don't and I don't think they

937
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.679
<v Speaker 1>understand cameras. I don't think. I don't. There's no infrared

938
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.199
<v Speaker 1>light coming out of it. They have an infrared flash

939
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.639
<v Speaker 1>that triggers when something moves in front of it from

940
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the passive IR detector. Passive meaning there's no light coming

941
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.199
<v Speaker 1>out of it, but it senses it in front of

942
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.039
<v Speaker 1>the sensor. But by the time he got the flash,

943
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.559
<v Speaker 1>he got the picture, so it doesn't matter anymore. But

944
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's they. I don't think they smell it.

945
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 1>They might. They might smell it. I don't know. That's

946
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>not out of the question. But sasquatches, I think it's

947
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 1>safe to say they don't have the sense of smell

948
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that say a dog or a bear or deer has,

949
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 1>And you can tell just by looking at them. They

950
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:22.199
<v Speaker 1>don't have that snout that increases the number of nerve

951
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.599
<v Speaker 1>endings for those old factory nerves. They don't have the

952
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.079
<v Speaker 1>sense of smell as all those other animals. They probably

953
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 1>have a sense of smell very similar to ours and

954
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:33.400
<v Speaker 1>all the other ape species. And we've kind of domesticated ourselves,

955
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:35.920
<v Speaker 1>of course, so our sense of smell isn't up the snuff.

956
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:39.199
<v Speaker 1>No pun intended as compared to the other ape species.

957
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>But I think that they can see it, and they

958
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>might even be able to hear it, because that engineer

959
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>friend of mine out in Wisconsin did some experiments with

960
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a number of game camera models and he found that

961
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>most of them scream was the word that he used

962
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 1>at high pitch frequencies that humans cannot hear. So maybe

963
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:00.199
<v Speaker 1>that's where it lies. But I don't think it's an

964
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.559
<v Speaker 1>infrared light thing at all. But I could be wrong.

965
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, we know that cluff.

966
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I've proven it many times.

967
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think where the light comes in at night

968
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.559
<v Speaker 2>is that if you've used cameras, they trigger all the time.

969
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, when the wind blows, when insects move, when

970
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 2>birds fly, you know, raccoons, possums, deer, coyotes, foxes, on

971
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:19.960
<v Speaker 2>and on and on and so if you had sensitive

972
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.199
<v Speaker 2>eyes and you could see those flashes, you would see

973
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>that thing like firing off at a distance. And I

974
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:26.960
<v Speaker 2>always use the raconics hyperfires, so every time they trigger,

975
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 2>it would take ten rapid fire photographs, so it's doing

976
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>like ten bright flashes bam bay bam, you know, super quickly.

977
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.280
<v Speaker 2>So I could imagine that you know something watching an

978
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.400
<v Speaker 2>area waiting for prey. If anything triggers that, and it

979
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:43.000
<v Speaker 2>just sees this rapidly flashing light, it might think like,

980
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.079
<v Speaker 2>what's that over there? I should probably stay away. But anyway,

981
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.480
<v Speaker 2>thanks for the question, Christina. She has submitted a few questions.

982
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>That's why she said she thinks she's a regular now,

983
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:54.159
<v Speaker 2>so we always appreciate that. And irregular one of the

984
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 2>magnificent irregulars. Yeah, and nobody who listens to us are

985
00:45:57.559 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 2>just regular people.

986
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:04.639
<v Speaker 1>They're all extraordinary, the intellectual elite. Stay tuned for more

987
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo. We'll be right

988
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:17.280
<v Speaker 1>back after these messages. And so here is your final voicemail.

989
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I love the show. Just wanted to call and see

990
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>what you guys think of bigfoots. Watching Forest Roads. I

991
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:31.079
<v Speaker 1>think I found a little spot one time where at

992
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the time I thought was a little hunter's nest. But

993
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 1>the more I listened to your show and open my mind,

994
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:40.599
<v Speaker 1>it could have been a bit squatchy, you know. So

995
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if you guys can help me understand

996
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:43.760
<v Speaker 1>what's to look for.

997
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:47.159
<v Speaker 6>And anyway, thanks guys, you're great.

998
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Love the show again, and I can't say it enough.

999
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.159
<v Speaker 3>It's great, Thank you.

1000
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the question is do sasquatches or do we

1001
00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:01.079
<v Speaker 1>think sasquatches watch forest roads. Yeah? Absolutely, I do think

1002
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 1>they do that to some degree, at least I think

1003
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that they're they're when they're in a certain valley, a

1004
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 1>certain area, they are probably using their Like I said

1005
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 1>in the previous question, actually they're using the terrain to

1006
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:17.079
<v Speaker 1>their strategic advantage. And part of that is knowing who

1007
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>comes in and who comes out. I've been in the

1008
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:23.519
<v Speaker 1>woods countless times, and I say countless because I didn't

1009
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>count them where one of us left an area, or

1010
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:29.880
<v Speaker 1>right when we arrive we heard tree knocks. I mean,

1011
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I know this has happened with you and I bobo

1012
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>out in the field number of times. I think we've

1013
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 1>all had that experience. So that tells me right there

1014
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that yeah, they're watching. They're watching who comes in and

1015
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 1>who comes out. Maybe not all the time, maybe they're

1016
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.440
<v Speaker 1>just hanging out and we happen to stumble upon the

1017
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:46.880
<v Speaker 1>area they're in, but it's to their advantage. In fact,

1018
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:51.280
<v Speaker 1>they're their Their very life could depend on knowing what

1019
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:54.199
<v Speaker 1>and who is in the area, and I think that

1020
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 1>they take full advantage of all the strategy, strategic terrain

1021
00:47:57.079 --> 00:47:59.679
<v Speaker 1>in the area to find out what is going on,

1022
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>because that's their domain, that's their spot, that's their territory,

1023
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 1>and they are kings and queens of it. They want

1024
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:08.079
<v Speaker 1>to know what's going on. They want to know if

1025
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:10.159
<v Speaker 1>they're in danger, they want to know if somebody's going

1026
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>after their dear heard, they want to know if somebody

1027
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.079
<v Speaker 1>is trying to look for them or what they're doing

1028
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Speaker 1>in the area. They might be curious, they might be defensive,

1029
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:20.119
<v Speaker 1>they might just who knows. But yeah, they watch forest roads,

1030
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.159
<v Speaker 1>particularly trailheads. By the way, while I'm at.

1031
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:25.039
<v Speaker 3>It, Oh yeah, trailheads for sure.

1032
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:27.119
<v Speaker 1>In the middle of a forest road, like in the

1033
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.559
<v Speaker 1>middle of this like three mile stretch, I doubt it.

1034
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but if a car goes by, they're going

1035
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 1>to pay attention. But I wouldn't. I don't think they

1036
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 1>post up. But if they might post up at the

1037
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 1>mouth of a box canyon that a road goes into.

1038
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

1039
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:43.199
<v Speaker 2>There's a great story that comes to mind about a

1040
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.199
<v Speaker 2>woman who had a late night encounter. She was doing

1041
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.199
<v Speaker 2>a night walk on a trail and to make a

1042
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.400
<v Speaker 2>long story short, you know, she had a close encounter

1043
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:51.719
<v Speaker 2>with a sasquatch, and it ran off, and so she

1044
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 2>turned and ran back down to her vehicle, and when

1045
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.079
<v Speaker 2>she got to the vehicle parked the trailhead, the thing

1046
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 2>was waiting there, just inside the tree line and started

1047
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:04.000
<v Speaker 2>making of like intimidating sounds and exhibiting frightening behavior to

1048
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 2>try to run her out, but like as if it

1049
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:09.000
<v Speaker 2>knew that if you encounter someone on this trail, here's

1050
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 2>where they came from. Like it was trying to make

1051
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.239
<v Speaker 2>sure that she fully left, so it belined what she

1052
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 2>thought was away from the trail, but it actually went

1053
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.519
<v Speaker 2>down to the trailhead like it associated that. So I

1054
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.480
<v Speaker 2>always thought that was fascinating. There's other stories along those lines,

1055
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>but that one comes to mind for sure.

1056
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.320
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it was a nest that spurred this

1057
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 1>question on. I'm not so sure they would nest too

1058
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:33.039
<v Speaker 1>close to a road. I think the only nests I've

1059
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 1>really seen though, are the Olympic Project nests, and those

1060
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.159
<v Speaker 1>were not near a road. They were kind of near

1061
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a logging road, like, you know, four or five hundred

1062
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:42.840
<v Speaker 1>yards away from a logging road that was uphill from them,

1063
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and that sort of thing. But then again, I don't know.

1064
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean there is that there is a mention in

1065
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Krantz's book now that I'm thinking of it of a

1066
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.039
<v Speaker 1>nest or a betting site or a place where something

1067
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>rolled around in the grass. It was a Freeman find.

1068
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I have photographs of the actual find, and I think

1069
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:02.599
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't too far from a road. Yeah, think about

1070
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:04.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they care about roads a whole lot,

1071
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:06.760
<v Speaker 1>but I think they do like to know who's who's

1072
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.719
<v Speaker 1>walking around and in their turf. But do you have

1073
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 1>anything to add before we zip onto the next question.

1074
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they definitely will watch trailheads, and I mean,

1075
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 3>I know what with Bart and I being out, there's

1076
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.719
<v Speaker 3>been at least three or four times where when we

1077
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.719
<v Speaker 3>got back to the trailhead there was a big, huge

1078
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:29.280
<v Speaker 3>just whack crack, you know, like full wow just yeah,

1079
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:31.559
<v Speaker 3>like when we got back to the right, we got

1080
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.599
<v Speaker 3>back to the parking lot. Yeah, they like it was

1081
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 3>like okay, there got it was kind of it seemed

1082
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 3>like to be like an f you to us and

1083
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 3>all clear to the other squatches that it be further

1084
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 3>back up the trail where we just came from.

1085
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 1>That's how we say goodbye to each other every week

1086
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:46.320
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast.

1087
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Slam the computer down you if you all clear?

1088
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm sorry to interrupt, but listen to this. Melissa

1089
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:01.800
<v Speaker 1>told me joke. She got it somewhere, she saw it

1090
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.760
<v Speaker 1>online or something like that. But it is definitely worth repeating.

1091
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Why did the chicken tell the joke?

1092
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:19.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know across uh, just hearing Harris says, picturing

1093
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.000
<v Speaker 3>her say Harry and her voice makes it funnier.

1094
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:27.719
<v Speaker 1>It is so tremendously stupid. I loved it. It was fantastic.

1095
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy it.

1096
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 3>All right.

1097
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Shall we go to a written question? And we're almost

1098
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 1>out of time here. We'll probably don't have time for

1099
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>all of them.

1100
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Now, well, we can tackle a couple of written questions here,

1101
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.480
<v Speaker 2>so let me pop the first one in the chat

1102
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and there you go.

1103
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 1>All right, you want this one?

1104
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:46.079
<v Speaker 3>Bobs? Sure? Dean Kohler, Hey, guys, love the show. I

1105
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:49.480
<v Speaker 3>hear about settings near homesteads and small villages in the

1106
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:53.320
<v Speaker 3>mountains and woods. But with city expansion and humans moving

1107
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:56.159
<v Speaker 3>and living closer and closer to their habitats, how there

1108
00:51:56.199 --> 00:52:00.239
<v Speaker 3>have been any credible settings of reports from cities? Yeah? Yeah,

1109
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean around the Detroiter like where they had all

1110
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:06.480
<v Speaker 3>that just abound buildings and fact, you know, like facilities

1111
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 3>like manufacturing, plants and housing. There's been reports there. And

1112
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:12.920
<v Speaker 3>then Washington State has a lot of stuff, I mean

1113
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.920
<v Speaker 3>right outside of Atlanta. I mean there's a lot of

1114
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:17.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of cities that have stuff like right on

1115
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.599
<v Speaker 3>the periphery or even like in the town limits in

1116
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:20.360
<v Speaker 3>some places.

1117
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially in the newer sort of developments, And it

1118
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:26.639
<v Speaker 1>seems that a lot of times that's the case, whether

1119
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a lone homestead, you know, five miles out, or

1120
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.280
<v Speaker 1>they're building a you know, a three hundred sort of

1121
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:37.840
<v Speaker 1>home complex outside of the normal bounds. Yeah, it seems

1122
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:39.639
<v Speaker 1>that that's where those sort of things happen. In fact,

1123
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 1>I think on first season of Finding Bigfoot, in the

1124
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:46.599
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina episode, the newer development had those those muddy

1125
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.719
<v Speaker 1>footprints running across. Yeah. I think that's a good example

1126
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 1>of that. And there's a couple of cases like that too,

1127
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:55.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's usually humans moving into their habitat for the

1128
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.039
<v Speaker 1>most part, there were I did have somebody in Washington

1129
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:00.880
<v Speaker 1>reaching out to me number of years ago. I haven't

1130
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:02.159
<v Speaker 1>heard from them for a while, so I don't think

1131
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:04.880
<v Speaker 1>it's still going on. But their little corner of the

1132
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:06.559
<v Speaker 1>world that was kind of new, like built in the

1133
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:09.159
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years, and they kept having odd tree

1134
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:11.440
<v Speaker 1>breaks and things and weird noises, so there might have

1135
00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:14.519
<v Speaker 1>been one in that general area. But yeah, I think

1136
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:18.559
<v Speaker 1>there's a good history, I guess of these things right

1137
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:22.360
<v Speaker 1>on the edges. It is a huge misconception that you

1138
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.079
<v Speaker 1>have to go in the middle of nowhere to see

1139
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:25.840
<v Speaker 1>a sasquatch, like you have to go in the deepest,

1140
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 1>darkest woods, away from everybody, and blah blah blah. Now

1141
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 1>you don't, no, you don't at all, no from where

1142
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I know, I live in the woods, but there are

1143
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:37.119
<v Speaker 1>probably more than I bet I can count ten or

1144
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>fifteen or more citing reports within five miles before I

1145
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:45.639
<v Speaker 1>am here, or two miles really two miles of where

1146
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I am sitting right now. And of course I know

1147
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 1>I live in the woods, but right on the fringes

1148
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 1>of you know, our little town Sandy, those kinds of

1149
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.480
<v Speaker 1>places have reports, you know, if you just have to

1150
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:58.360
<v Speaker 1>dig a little bit and talk to the right kinds

1151
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 1>of people, you know. And the reports that I get

1152
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 1>from inside city limits or right on the edge of

1153
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>city limits like that usually from like ne'er do well, teenagers,

1154
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:11.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, drinking or something at midnight on while trespassing.

1155
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Those are the kinds of reports that I pay real

1156
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>close attention to because they're so close in and where

1157
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:21.159
<v Speaker 1>a sasquatch goes once, it certainly goes again right on. Well,

1158
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.760
<v Speaker 1>since we opened with a Bobo centric question to celebrate him,

1159
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 1>I think it's only right that we close with a

1160
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Bobo centric question. Everything's coming up, Bobo, it is, indeed,

1161
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.199
<v Speaker 1>So here is the last written submission for this April

1162
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five Q and A. Allow me to read

1163
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>it for you, Bobo. Out of celebration. Sherry Heck asks, Hi, Bobo.

1164
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 1>My seven year old daughter, Hazel is enjoying the Finding

1165
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot series. You're her favorite. She wants to know why

1166
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:53.760
<v Speaker 1>are you called Bobo? Is it because the Swedish Bigfoot

1167
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:57.760
<v Speaker 1>is called boboklmn Bobo calm is at two l's. It

1168
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:01.320
<v Speaker 1>is two l's Bobo caln. She also finds it funny

1169
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 1>that you are always the one to reenact Bigfoot in

1170
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:07.599
<v Speaker 1>the series and wants to know why you are always

1171
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the Bigfoot.

1172
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, first off, bo means great lover in Italian?

1173
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Is that what it means in Spanish too, uh' So

1174
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I was told.

1175
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:24.519
<v Speaker 3>It's well, it's spelled in America that's what bobo, but

1176
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:27.079
<v Speaker 3>over in Europe this what bau bau.

1177
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.039
<v Speaker 2>We should stylize it that way. From now on, it's

1178
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.280
<v Speaker 2>more to type, but it's it's sophisticated.

1179
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you have for those little accent marks on it.

1180
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Bo, Well, you're a man of the world.

1181
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:42.599
<v Speaker 3>And then uh yeah, well, because I used to when

1182
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:45.159
<v Speaker 3>I'd go do Bigfoot investigations for the show, like I'd

1183
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:47.719
<v Speaker 3>always go, you like, put them where they were. Then

1184
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I'd go where it was and say like, well, how

1185
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:53.119
<v Speaker 3>big does it look compared to me? And eighty five

1186
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:54.880
<v Speaker 3>percent of the time they'd be like I didn't realize

1187
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.480
<v Speaker 3>how big it was until you went over there. So

1188
00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 3>when we were doing the show, I was like, just

1189
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.280
<v Speaker 3>do the same thing. I'll take to hate that. When

1190
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:05.039
<v Speaker 3>they'd say, like, oh, have a how do someone tell

1191
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:06.440
<v Speaker 3>you to go there? I'm like, I don't need to

1192
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:08.719
<v Speaker 3>get told like like I'm getting orders to go do that.

1193
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing it anyways. But they always wanted to like

1194
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:13.679
<v Speaker 3>have like Matt or Brene say go stand over there,

1195
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:15.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, like like I was ordered around like there

1196
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:19.280
<v Speaker 3>was some you know, just big dummies down there. But yeah,

1197
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.880
<v Speaker 3>it got me, uh, I mean I considered it big

1198
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.880
<v Speaker 3>foot modeling so I could help people that as a

1199
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:25.880
<v Speaker 3>plus size model.

1200
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Well didn't they call it the Bobo meter in the show?

1201
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm pretty sure they used the Bobo meter,

1202
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:36.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, or something that. I'm sure that was Chad

1203
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Hanmile's input on that one. Chad was the genius behind

1204
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:41.840
<v Speaker 1>our show. He had such a great sense of humor.

1205
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.679
<v Speaker 3>I was with. I got replaced by Kip Marril though

1206
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:47.639
<v Speaker 3>a couple of times on a not on the show,

1207
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.280
<v Speaker 3>but like just doing uh stuff, for like a Bluff

1208
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Creek for the Bluff Creek Project, and for another one

1209
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:58.039
<v Speaker 3>time when we were looking at some bigfoot photos and

1210
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 3>kipstid in. They picked Kip over me and I was

1211
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 3>the guy's seventeen times big for the year. So I

1212
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:08.159
<v Speaker 3>couldn't say too much, but it hurt a little bit.

1213
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Is he Hazel Heck's favorite? I don't think so.

1214
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:12.440
<v Speaker 6>No.

1215
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, beat it, Kip, Hazel, You're a smart kid.

1216
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you, Hazel.

1217
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very very nice to get that kind of compliment that,

1218
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, someone says that you're their favorite when I'm

1219
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:28.840
<v Speaker 1>told that someone says, hey, Cliff, quite nice to meet you. Whatever,

1220
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:32.079
<v Speaker 1>You're my favorite on the show. My canned response is,

1221
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I am also my favorite on the show. But then

1222
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I go on to say, but don't tell Bobo Bobo

1223
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:41.719
<v Speaker 1>thinks he's my favorite.

1224
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.280
<v Speaker 3>I just a feel old money Baker back because he

1225
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:47.360
<v Speaker 3>makes me laugh the most.

1226
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:50.280
<v Speaker 1>He is funnier than all of us put together. Sometimes.

1227
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, all right, well there it is. There's a

1228
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.079
<v Speaker 1>closing question on another episode of our Q and A

1229
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:59.440
<v Speaker 1>here really really appreciate all your questions and stuff. Bobo,

1230
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:00.800
<v Speaker 1>do you have anything coming up you want to push

1231
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:02.519
<v Speaker 1>or anything or tell everybody? I got a couple of things.

1232
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:06.440
<v Speaker 3>If you don't, I was just gonna say I should tell, like, uh, actually,

1233
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.960
<v Speaker 3>real story is my name as a kid was Jimbo.

1234
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:12.800
<v Speaker 3>And then I we saw that movie Jumbo, so my

1235
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:16.480
<v Speaker 3>older brother would started calling me Jimbo Jumbo the big

1236
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:18.840
<v Speaker 3>fat Dumbo, and I would be like, don't call me that.

1237
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 3>So then he started calling me jim Bobo. And then

1238
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.800
<v Speaker 3>our extra neighbor of Danny Paul Zotto started calling me Bobo,

1239
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:31.000
<v Speaker 3>and like Bobo Bolinski the wrestler, old wrestler. If became

1240
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:33.119
<v Speaker 3>bo because of course I hated it, so that made

1241
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:35.119
<v Speaker 3>it stick. I just wouldn't send anything a little one

1242
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:37.679
<v Speaker 3>away after a week or two. So it stuck for

1243
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 3>a long time.

1244
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:40.719
<v Speaker 1>And now you finally accepted your fate.

1245
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.159
<v Speaker 3>When I was in my twenties, I accepted it.

1246
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.039
<v Speaker 1>You turned it around. Turn it around on those bullies.

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<v Speaker 1>You can no longer be bullied for that. For that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>smart of them. Yeah, I remember I once asked you

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00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>about spelling it or whatever, and you said, bo bo.

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<v Speaker 1>You spell it like you smell it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You were still are.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. And I've got any thing the hype coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Note, well, this coming weekend, I'm going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>ESS's Park, Colorado. There's something going on there on the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth and twenty sixth. I guess the s S

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00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Park Bigfoot Days is what it's called. You can go.

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00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where you can go. Just look up

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00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:20.480
<v Speaker 1>S's Park Bigfoot stuff on Google and you'll find it

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quick. It's a fun festival, it's in a beautiful setting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really high altitude actually compared to most of these

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00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:28.760
<v Speaker 1>things I know that's snowed a couple of years and

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<v Speaker 1>it's an outside festival, so we'll see what happens. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>the weather holds for us. I did this gig a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. It was a lot of fun,

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00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:39.599
<v Speaker 1>really really cool, little town, really pretty stuff. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a neat, neat festival to do, as far as I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>So come on out and see that one. The week

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<v Speaker 1>after I'm in Ohio for the Ohio Bigfoot Conference. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I should mention. I think like Russ and

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00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Moray are going to be at the ss Park thing

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<v Speaker 1>from that expedition Bigfoot show. I don't know who else

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be there. I don't really have access

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<v Speaker 1>to that information. I just show up and do my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I figure once I get on the plane, I'm no

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<v Speaker 1>longer my responsibility.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the website here for Ohio Bigfoot Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a fun time. Renee is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be out there. That's why it's a good time

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<v Speaker 1>to see Renee. Doctor Meldrum of course is going to

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01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.519
<v Speaker 1>be there. Shelley coming to Montana, Estebond is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be their es bons Armientos. We have two PhDs in

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<v Speaker 1>residence at this one, and Seth breedlove of course from

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<v Speaker 1>small Town Monsters. Yeah and there. Oh and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>looking ahead May thirty first, I'm going to be in Stanton,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky at the Red River Gorge Bigfoot Festival. Also speaking

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01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.079
<v Speaker 1>is Doctor Meldrim, The Mountain Monster Dudes will love me.

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<v Speaker 1>Some Mountain Monsters are going to be out there, love

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01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:41.719
<v Speaker 1>the show. Charlie Raymond's going to be out there. Tom

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01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Shay is supposedly going to be out there. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that works out for him. Last time I spoke to him.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some issues about some stuff you may have

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of, but that's that's what's on the

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<v Speaker 1>schedule right now, so we'll see about that. Well, there

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<v Speaker 1>you have it. There, there's some appearances, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be at doctor Meldrim's at a couple of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Renee is going to be Yeah, maybe I'll see them.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do come out to say hello, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you actually do this saying hello part. Come to the table,

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01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:09.079
<v Speaker 1>say hi. Say you appreciate the podcast. Yeah, I like

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01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff. It makes it worthwhile.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. Well, yeah, so you got anything coming up now

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01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:15.760
<v Speaker 3>you need to disclose.

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01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Not until later in the summer. So I will hold

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01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:21.119
<v Speaker 2>off until all that stuff is live and there's links

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01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I can put in the show notes. But until then,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm heading to the woods this Thursday through Sunday, so

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully i'll have something cool to report the next time

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<v Speaker 2>we get behind the microphones.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice, nice, Well, all right, I've headed out on what's

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<v Speaker 3>myself tomorrow, so's cliff. Hopefully you all out there are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do the same. Hope you get some wood times in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's springtime is getting beautiful out there, So until next week,

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<v Speaker 3>y'all keep it squatchy.

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