Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was or
Speaker 1: was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through
Speaker 1: the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go outside. Jesus quice, you better hello, get
Speaker 1: somebody out here. What went on out there? Let's thought
Speaker 1: of a bit of about second fourth nine.
Speaker 2: I don't know easy, im out there, yeah right away,
Speaker 2: Oh greetings. Wanted to share with you today something that
Speaker 2: happened is probably close to twenty years ago now. While
Speaker 2: out berry picking Margaret and we'll call him Kyle. Margaret
Speaker 2: and Kyle were berry picking for a relative. They were
Speaker 2: all getting blackberries, some salmon berries if they're around, just
Speaker 2: berry picking in very similar terrain where I was pointing
Speaker 2: out the salmon berries. Imagine that kind of train that
Speaker 2: they're in, but in this particular place they were picking berries,
Speaker 2: there's a lot more muskeg. So as they're picking, as
Speaker 2: they're going along, they get separated by about one hundred feet.
Speaker 2: Margaret was more anxious to get the salmon berries first,
Speaker 2: and she was trying to get a couple quarts of them,
Speaker 2: which it doesn't sound like much, but when you're picking
Speaker 2: something this big and trying to fill up a bucket
Speaker 2: takes time. So she's methodically going along and through and
Speaker 2: she hears a grunt. She assumes it's her husband. Now,
Speaker 2: with the assumption of it being the husband, she continues
Speaker 2: doing what she's doing, and there's no immediate sense of dread.
Speaker 2: As she's reaching for a berry, out of the corner
Speaker 2: of her eye, she catches movement. Now, what that movement
Speaker 2: causes her to do is just to sit up and say, hey, han,
Speaker 2: she thought it was her husband right next to her.
Speaker 2: She was in an area close to the trees. It
Speaker 2: wasn't just the black spruce though, there was alder willows
Speaker 2: and various other brush in this particular area. So as
Speaker 2: she says, hey, Han, how's it going on. She starts
Speaker 2: to relay her berry picking in how she was happy
Speaker 2: she was getting berries, and she turns and that figure
Speaker 2: was no longer there. She turns around and realizes her
Speaker 2: husband is too far away to have made the grunt
Speaker 2: noise and had made it in her peripheral vision for
Speaker 2: a brief moment and then make it all the way
Speaker 2: back to where he was picking berries. He had the rifle.
Speaker 2: They had a two seventy, I believe, So immediately she
Speaker 2: gets spooked. She grabs her berry bucket. She stands up.
Speaker 2: She's scanning the area. It's not easy to see into
Speaker 2: that shit. Someone could disappear. Even play in a hide
Speaker 2: and go seek with your friends, someone could disappear into
Speaker 2: that shit and you wouldn't find them if they didn't
Speaker 2: want you to find them. So she starts backtracking slowly,
Speaker 2: and with each step she's sensing something doesn't want her there.
Speaker 2: She had the peripheral she assumed it was a human
Speaker 2: like figure, but she wasn't on top of it. She
Speaker 2: wasn't in a panic state because she had her husband armed,
Speaker 2: were picking berries good day. So every step she takes
Speaker 2: moving back towards her husband, she's getting that more and
Speaker 2: more of a sense of dread, and so once she's
Speaker 2: close enough to get his attention without yelling because she
Speaker 2: didn't want to draw any unwanted attention from that area,
Speaker 2: she saw the figure move into out of the corner
Speaker 2: of her eye. As she starts talking back. Her husband
Speaker 2: senses the tone and her voice had changed. He's a
Speaker 2: real dude. He's on top of his shit. He dropped
Speaker 2: his berry buckets and immediately comes over with the rifle.
Speaker 2: They're standing side by side. As he comes up behind her,
Speaker 2: he calmly talking to her as he's getting closer and says,
Speaker 2: just stay there, kneel down like you're picking berries, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the same. So she takes a step
Speaker 2: away from him, kneels down and legitimately is picking berries,
Speaker 2: and she starts speaking to him in Yupik, telling him
Speaker 2: what had been going on. Why she chose Yupik. I
Speaker 2: think it was to disguise they were talking about the
Speaker 2: hairy man. She didn't specify. I meant to ask, but
Speaker 2: that's twenty twenty hindsight. So they sit there. He's laid
Speaker 2: the rifle in front of him, but he's got his
Speaker 2: head down and he's scanning the trees for any movement,
Speaker 2: and he catches something just off to his right hand
Speaker 2: side but in front of him, and so he starts
Speaker 2: focusing on it with his head down, trying to look
Speaker 2: in that direction on the sly and as he's doing so,
Speaker 2: they are hit with little blackberries. And they're confused because
Speaker 2: the berries are being thrown from somewhere off to their
Speaker 2: left in the trees, and they're just right next to
Speaker 2: the tree line in the tundra, and he's facing a
Speaker 2: different direction of which the berries are coming. Immediately, he
Speaker 2: thinks prankster. So he gets mad, because you don't play
Speaker 2: pranks on anyone in the bush. It's not safe, especially
Speaker 2: people who are armed. So he stands up and he
Speaker 2: has the rifle and he starts yelling, hey, we're not
Speaker 2: playing these games. Stop throwing the damn berries. As he's
Speaker 2: walking the direction the berries were thrown from, expecting to
Speaker 2: find some kids they may know, or another villager just
Speaker 2: playing a prank or whatever. He was half expecting that,
Speaker 2: and as he's walking in that direction, he hears his
Speaker 2: wife's scream, turns around and sees her. She's lurched back
Speaker 2: away from her berry picking bucket. And this thing is
Speaker 2: walked out into another patch of black spruce about thirty
Speaker 2: feet away. The way they explain it is as soon
Speaker 2: as he turned his back to go in the direction
Speaker 2: of the berries being thrown, she immediately sees this thing
Speaker 2: come out of the trees because her husband's not looking
Speaker 2: with the gun, and goes over to another stand of
Speaker 2: trees about thirty feet away roughly, and it crossed this
Speaker 2: span in four steps. According to her, she said it
Speaker 2: looked very big, and she had no size reference, but
Speaker 2: she said it was almost as tall as the black
Speaker 2: spruce trees that were in the area, and that would
Speaker 2: make it anywhere between ten and twelve feet tall. So
Speaker 2: she screams, lurches back away from where she was picking,
Speaker 2: and is pointing in the trees just as a husband
Speaker 2: turns and sees the dark figure going to the trees. Immediately,
Speaker 2: berry picking is over, so they gather the bucket, though
Speaker 2: they leaving them without those berries. They were gonna fight
Speaker 2: for him, so as they're backing away, he's keeping mindset
Speaker 2: on something through berries from over here. So they're backing out. Ah, jeez,
Speaker 2: get the chills, because I was just in that environment
Speaker 2: feeling that creepy feeling anyway. I got the hair on
Speaker 2: my arm standing up. We'll make sure it's not because
Speaker 2: of something standing behind me. He's keeping in mind something
Speaker 2: was throwing berries from right over here. As they're backing up,
Speaker 2: he's keeping any on his wife and I over her
Speaker 2: shoulder into the stand of trees, and he's also keeping
Speaker 2: mindful about off to his left hand side. They get
Speaker 2: to a certain point, he notices movement broken up in
Speaker 2: between the trees, because, like I tried to show you,
Speaker 2: you're only gonna catch small bits and pieces of something
Speaker 2: going through brush like that. Right immediately, he moves his
Speaker 2: wife to the side and puts a bead with the rifle,
Speaker 2: just not pointing at it, but in that direction at
Speaker 2: a ready. At this point, they both said they were overwhelming.
Speaker 2: He caught the sense that they can't be there, and
Speaker 2: so they back out. As they're backing out, they noticed
Speaker 2: one of the trees where she saw the one walk
Speaker 2: into and he caught a glimpse of it shaking in
Speaker 2: the center of this group of trees. Now, he said
Speaker 2: that when it was shaking, it was almost like it
Speaker 2: was taking the tree, moving it to the side to
Speaker 2: look at them, moving it back to look at him
Speaker 2: from the other side, and he could see its face.
Speaker 2: Every time it did that, every time it moved it,
Speaker 2: he was making eye contact with this thing. There was noises, cooing,
Speaker 2: kind of noise. Some of it sounded like someone trying
Speaker 2: to speak Upik, but different. She couldn't pinpoint it. And
Speaker 2: as they're hearing the sound, she starts yelling out phrases
Speaker 2: in Yupik. Who is it? Who are you? We're from? Wherever?
Speaker 2: Who are you? She kept asking who are you? In Yupi?
Speaker 2: And as they were back on the husband said, just stop,
Speaker 2: nothing's responding. Let's we gotta go. Just as they got
Speaker 2: to a point where he felt she could get behind
Speaker 2: him and they could turn instead of walking backwards, turn
Speaker 2: and get out of there. Just as they were about
Speaker 2: to do that, they heard in a Yupik like language
Speaker 2: something being said back to them, but it wasn't Ubik.
Speaker 2: It was similar. She's fluent Yupik, but she couldn't place
Speaker 2: what was being said back, but it was Upik like.
Speaker 2: So it makes you wonder was there a universal language
Speaker 2: at one point where all the tribes spoke, Because like
Speaker 2: the Occlute in the Indians, here just down the road,
Speaker 2: towards Anchorage, their dialect of language, they could communicate with
Speaker 2: the Sioux Indians. So there's something universal we have lost
Speaker 2: in the past that I find intriguing because that could
Speaker 2: be a key to really bringing this past a tipping point.
Speaker 2: I've been going out into the field to share people's
Speaker 2: experiences on site because me explaining them I could paint
Speaker 2: a pretty good picture, right. But there's something to being
Speaker 2: in an exact location of someone's stuff. That happened with
Speaker 2: James and Debra's experience. When I was in that area
Speaker 2: and I was circling around, there was an overwhelming sense
Speaker 2: of being watched. It wasn't squatch bait. He was circling
Speaker 2: out in the canoe, how dense it was, he wouldn't
Speaker 2: have seen me. I wouldn't have saw him. Gosh, it's
Speaker 2: really hard to explain. I was walking in that circle.
Speaker 2: I was half expecting to draw something out. I was
Speaker 2: half hoping to I would rather shoot something with the
Speaker 2: camera versus a firearm. I wasn't there to necessarily shoot anything,
Speaker 2: but being there in that location. A little less than
Speaker 2: a handful of hours later, I was still jacked up
Speaker 2: on adrenaline. From that. We went from the filming location
Speaker 2: for James and Deborah over to it was like close
Speaker 2: to twelve miles away where I filmed that next portion
Speaker 2: with the tundra and the trees. It affected me so
Speaker 2: much that that many hours had passed, that many miles
Speaker 2: had passed, and my adrenaline was still pumping. When you
Speaker 2: get out in the woods and you're doing things berry picking,
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, there's something to be said about
Speaker 2: someone's feelings as far as it's almost universal, feelings of dread,
Speaker 2: feelings of gotta go unwelcomed, things of this nature. Not
Speaker 2: one of these people have spoke to me about mind
Speaker 2: speak or portals or anything like that that I haven't
Speaker 2: witnessed myself. I have no dog in that fight. Just
Speaker 2: some things to think about. Why is the fear of
Speaker 2: being struck like that on such a primal level? See
Speaker 2: this bury picking encounter. There's a lot of them that
Speaker 2: are very similar. Maybe I'll do a playlist of bury
Speaker 2: picking chronicles or something, but a lot of them happen
Speaker 2: just like that, whether with a group of people two
Speaker 2: or more, sometimes two, sometimes up to seven different people,
Speaker 2: and there will be a movement attention has got one
Speaker 2: way or another, whether it's silent by peripheral throwing something
Speaker 2: like rocks, berries, sticks, twigs. It makes you wonder why
Speaker 2: they would invite you to see them with throwing stuff
Speaker 2: to get your attention or being in a peripheral what's
Speaker 2: their driving force to get your attention, to draw your attention.
Speaker 2: It could be to lure you away from others, to
Speaker 2: keep you from seeing what they're doing. Because obviously he
Speaker 2: felt and she felt there was more than one. One
Speaker 2: just walked across and then something throwing berries at them
Speaker 2: from a different direction. It's hard to mistake that for
Speaker 2: anything else than being more than one, because it's not
Speaker 2: like that one could throw a berry, a boomerang berry,
Speaker 2: and I don't see that happening, So I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's those intriguing thoughts that really get the mind churning.
Speaker 2: What's the end game of getting our attention when we're
Speaker 2: doing these things? What's the endgame to that? And so
Speaker 2: far no one is stuck around to find out, And
Speaker 2: if they haven't shared their story or they can't really
Speaker 2: intriguing stuff anyway, I wanted to share that very picking encounter,
Speaker 2: talk about those feelings because they're damn near universal up here.
Speaker 2: A primal fear. Something will strike someone funny, even a
Speaker 2: hunter that's been in the woods for thirty years, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, we'll get this fear. He's never had
Speaker 2: even a bear hunter. I've done bear control. I've had
Speaker 2: him charging at me. That's an adrenaline dump, right the
Speaker 2: holy shit. But it's different. It's on a totally different level.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'll always follow your gut in
Speaker 2: the woods. If you're wondering why I'm in a rundown
Speaker 2: old RV, I'm just checking it out. I'm on site
Speaker 2: at Jonathan's place. He was traveling the Alcan Highway in
Speaker 2: seventy six or seventy eight. He's in his late seventies now,
Speaker 2: so his exact date really irrelevant to what happened. So
Speaker 2: they had just cleared the Canadian border coming up to
Speaker 2: Alaska on Alcan Highway. When they got to he said
Speaker 2: it was the third rest area. He doesn't exactly remember.
Speaker 2: Him and his then wife, who divorced him shortly after
Speaker 2: this situation. We're basically essentially sleeping right there. New or mattress.
Speaker 2: He tried to start refurbishing a while back and gave
Speaker 2: up on it. Just too many memories ruined it for him.
Speaker 2: So they're at this rest stop. They got done eating,
Speaker 2: they were chilling in here. They were essentially laying down,
Speaker 2: chilling out and listening to a radio of some AM
Speaker 2: station that they could pick up. Now. They weren't horribly
Speaker 2: far from Fairbanks. Wherever there's a turnoff or something. It's
Speaker 2: been so many years since I've been up on al Can.
Speaker 2: Someone probably knows the answer to it. Stay tuned for more,
Speaker 2: ask watch out to see We'll be right back after
Speaker 2: these messages. So they're at this rest area chilling. They're
Speaker 2: mellowing out for the night. It is still early in
Speaker 2: the spring, so it's not like we have the daylight now,
Speaker 2: but it builds day by day at that time of year.
Speaker 2: They were sitting here and they noticed out this window
Speaker 2: here dark shadows going back and forth a couple times,
Speaker 2: and so he jumps up. They didn't have any firearms
Speaker 2: back then. You were allowed certain rifles, no handguns I
Speaker 2: think or something. But he had mailed everything. So he
Speaker 2: was coming up to work in the oil field and
Speaker 2: just bought a place and use this camper to bring
Speaker 2: the rest of his shit up. Now, as he was
Speaker 2: trying to investigate the movement outside the windows. This whole
Speaker 2: thing shakes, it shakes, and it draws his attention to
Speaker 2: the back. Now, once he gets to the back, he
Speaker 2: said that right here in this area, that's why I
Speaker 2: was attempted to be rebuilt. This thing smashed its hand
Speaker 2: up through and was trying to pull essentially this whole
Speaker 2: area off, and commenced to banging and doing some other stuff.
Speaker 2: There was a hole put in the ceiling. I think
Speaker 2: he said that crack there came from it as well,
Speaker 2: this crack in the window. So essentially they started trying
Speaker 2: to open this thing like a ten can. Now he's
Speaker 2: in his place right now. He after sharing it with me,
Speaker 2: and I went over it with them a couple times
Speaker 2: to make sure I had the proper information to share
Speaker 2: to try to gauge their emotion whenever I can. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I just have to read the email and elaborate on
Speaker 2: certain things, like a twisty trail. Anyway, I digressed instantly.
Speaker 2: Where he's standing. He runs forward and grabs something off
Speaker 2: the stove and bashes the arm when it tearing that shit,
Speaker 2: so he bangs the arm. It pulls its arm out,
Speaker 2: pushes against the place, and then I think that's when
Speaker 2: it tried to come through up there. It's been some
Speaker 2: of it's been changed out and some of it has not.
Speaker 2: The old stuff is up in the front, and this
Speaker 2: part here was changed out some years back when he
Speaker 2: was doing the renovation. He's not keeping this. He's trying
Speaker 2: to rebuild it and kind of garner back to earlier
Speaker 2: days or whatever. But he just can't mess with it.
Speaker 2: So anyway, it tears this part up. It tries to
Speaker 2: come through there. Now they have no firearms whatsoever. All
Speaker 2: he had was some kind of frying pan, a small
Speaker 2: cast iron skillet, and he's running around banging, making a
Speaker 2: whole shit ton of noise as he's doing it. He
Speaker 2: himself tore down these open areas here. He tore the
Speaker 2: doors off of those looking for an old machete he
Speaker 2: used for trail blazing. So he breaks all these down
Speaker 2: looking for it. He finds it, and he attempts to
Speaker 2: hack at it. When it was trying to get its
Speaker 2: hand in, it had broken up all this stuff up
Speaker 2: in here. All this was all replaced and tried to
Speaker 2: reseal and all that. You can see the underpart here
Speaker 2: where he made his attempt at fixing it. Now as
Speaker 2: this attack is going on, his wife at the time
Speaker 2: was under there. Don't blame her, no firearm. I would
Speaker 2: have been under there with her. So he's running around
Speaker 2: hacking with the machete. Whenever it stuck its arm up
Speaker 2: and through, he felt it pulling this whole thing. Man
Speaker 2: from where it was grabbing up and here it was
Speaker 2: like pulling and moving the whole thing. The only thing
Speaker 2: that stopped them from moving any further was the fact
Speaker 2: it was in park. Not a happy feeling. So this
Speaker 2: is basically ten thirty eleven at night that this happens,
Speaker 2: just as it was getting dark enough, still light in
Speaker 2: the sky, but dark everywhere else right, and the tree
Speaker 2: lines especially, So the initial onslaught happens. He hacks away
Speaker 2: all the hacking was where all this stuff has been replaced.
Speaker 2: Now he tried to find the scraps in his garage
Speaker 2: of the hacked parts and whatnot. But I was like that,
Speaker 2: I believe you, don't worry, just tell me what was
Speaker 2: going on. So as he hacks around, it was trying
Speaker 2: to pull the thing forward. It was trying to pull
Speaker 2: the top off, and for whatever reason, there was a
Speaker 2: high pitched whistle off in the distance, and it ran off.
Speaker 2: Now when it ran off, he heard other footsteps from
Speaker 2: just outside the doorway run off as well. Then it
Speaker 2: dawned on him that thing wasn't alone, And then he
Speaker 2: thinking back, he wasn't even sure if it was the
Speaker 2: same one that stuck its arm through over here or
Speaker 2: what it could have been a combination of the two.
Speaker 2: He was so freaked out. His ex wasn't a witness
Speaker 2: to any of his. As soon as s it started
Speaker 2: going sideway, she was under there. I think as soon
Speaker 2: as the hand broke through over here is when she
Speaker 2: got under there. Can you imagine having this thing busting
Speaker 2: through the damn ceiling? This thinge was brand new at
Speaker 2: the time, and if trying to tear off this cab
Speaker 2: over man, that was some freaky shit. But I shot
Speaker 2: through the wall. They stayed their distance. This thing was
Speaker 2: trying to get them, So forgive me. I'm sitting here
Speaker 2: reliving it through what he told me, and I'm just
Speaker 2: trying to imagine it runs off. He hears another one
Speaker 2: run off. Now he's regrouping, trying to get her from
Speaker 2: out of under there. There's a howl going off in
Speaker 2: the very far distance, and then return gral howls as
Speaker 2: he called them. In the near distance, just off into
Speaker 2: the tree line. Now there at a rest drop. There
Speaker 2: was another Ford pickup at that same rest stop. He
Speaker 2: saw the guy already in his single cab old school
Speaker 2: seventies Ford, sleeping on the bench seat in the front.
Speaker 2: So he runs over to get this guy's attention. Guy's
Speaker 2: already sitting up, has his truck. It just started as
Speaker 2: he comes running up, and the guy jumps back and
Speaker 2: he goes, we need your help, We need your help.
Speaker 2: These things attack my RV. The guy said, I saw
Speaker 2: them run off, I'm out of here, and just backs
Speaker 2: out on him and goes. So Jonathan runs back here
Speaker 2: because he didn't want to be left out in the woods,
Speaker 2: so he runs back over here. When he gets inside,
Speaker 2: she's back underneath because he wasn't in there and she
Speaker 2: didn't feel safe looking out the windows, which I totally understand.
Speaker 2: Comes back in and is trying to put stuff. Took
Speaker 2: the old pads that usually go around and through here.
Speaker 2: Was like he's got an old glass unit. There must
Speaker 2: be one of his. Maybe it's his, no judgment. Just
Speaker 2: notice that that's even got a rick and morty stick
Speaker 2: around it. Hilarious anyway, he's trying to stuff things, the
Speaker 2: old cushions that were here, to see the velcrow where
Speaker 2: they were held in the place and whatnot. He's trying
Speaker 2: to stuff it to fill the holes. Now he's got
Speaker 2: the machete, and I guess a couple of times when
Speaker 2: he was swinging he had struck it at least once
Speaker 2: that he can remember. But he was in a blind
Speaker 2: fury of fear and just whacking away and screaming and
Speaker 2: going off right. So as he gets back in here
Speaker 2: and he's doing all this stuff, that howling has continued,
Speaker 2: not rhythmicallee or anything, but periodically he would hear the
Speaker 2: scream in the distance seemed to get closer, and the
Speaker 2: screams returning. The howl or whatever hal Grau seemed to
Speaker 2: be congregated in one area. Now he's sitting there and
Speaker 2: the dawns on him. I need to get out of here.
Speaker 2: So he does what he has to do and fires
Speaker 2: up the rig. He backs out from where he was parked,
Speaker 2: and as he was pulling around to leave out of
Speaker 2: the rest area and hit the road again, he sees
Speaker 2: one of these things cross the road in front of him,
Speaker 2: and also sees one off in the just off the
Speaker 2: side of the road at the tree line that didn't
Speaker 2: run after the other one, did not tell anyone about it.
Speaker 2: He didn't even put in a claim for the insurance
Speaker 2: policy that he had for this thing through the dealership
Speaker 2: because he was still making payments on it and they
Speaker 2: had some form of insurance not we have today, but
Speaker 2: had a form of insurance he didn't even file a
Speaker 2: claim on. He actually almost lost this thing twice because
Speaker 2: he stopped making payments on it because of the memories
Speaker 2: of what happened. So they get out of there and
Speaker 2: all that, But can you just can you imagine being
Speaker 2: in here and something actively attacking the roof, attacking the sides,
Speaker 2: ripping all this shit for you, Like it wasn't trying
Speaker 2: to share berries, it wasn't trying to point out the
Speaker 2: fastest shortcuts to get the Fairbanks or wherever it was
Speaker 2: here with an intent. And it still boggles me they
Speaker 2: would try to come through over here when there's all
Speaker 2: these single pane, thin ass windows that are chintz. They're
Speaker 2: real chintzy. There are so many things with these creatures
Speaker 2: that boggle my mind. I just don't I just don't
Speaker 2: get oh. Also right over here, it broke through right
Speaker 2: in this area here with a tanned When it started
Speaker 2: tearing up the thing. Anyway, it just dawned on me
Speaker 2: because I could see light out it. But Jesus, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have wanted to be in here, especially with that
Speaker 2: actively tearing through. Holy shit, what I'm gonna share with
Speaker 2: you today happened in a place called West Pappoos Lake.
Speaker 2: To be exact, I got the topographical here and where
Speaker 2: this happened was southwest past the airstrip in a bog
Speaker 2: So here's Pappoos Lake, West Pappoos Lake here that it
Speaker 2: happened southwest of there past the airstrip which is here.
Speaker 2: It has to be this muskeg area here with a
Speaker 2: couple ponds and lakes or whatever. And this is the
Speaker 2: little Susitna River. Now what happened in this area? So
Speaker 2: what happened was is this happened actually the week before
Speaker 2: Father's Day two years ago. They were on their way
Speaker 2: just to have some fun explore. They've been to the
Speaker 2: airstrip before, they went past it, and they went down
Speaker 2: this little embankment that opens up into that flats area.
Speaker 2: What drew them there is Initially they were just playing
Speaker 2: around the airstrip, chasing the little ones or whatever. This
Speaker 2: was shared from Jason. Jason and his wife Jennifer real
Speaker 2: first names. They didn't want their last name shared. So
Speaker 2: Jennifer and Jason they're wrangling their kids doing the dad day.
Speaker 2: So what ends up happening is the kids are squealing
Speaker 2: and screaming, and often the distance they hear this god
Speaker 2: awful sound. They do not know what the hell made
Speaker 2: that sound. Jason is out in the woods with his kids. Man,
Speaker 2: this Alaska, you gotta take it serious. So he does
Speaker 2: this thing. He gets the firearm, gets Jennifer to get
Speaker 2: the kids to a safer spot, and he's going to
Speaker 2: go investigate and confront this sound. Now, he goes down
Speaker 2: and he's looking out into this flats area and he
Speaker 2: notices a brown hump in one of the ponds in
Speaker 2: the muskeg and he thought, oh cool, a back of
Speaker 2: a moose. The moose has got his head under the water,
Speaker 2: and maybe the kids will be able to see this
Speaker 2: moose pop up and show its antlers and stuff with
Speaker 2: all the moss hanging off of it. Excellent. So he
Speaker 2: runs back, gets Jennifer and the kids and says, hey,
Speaker 2: it was just a moose making this weird noise. Let's
Speaker 2: go look at it. So they go. Jennifer. The two kids,
Speaker 2: a boy and a girl. They were both under three
Speaker 2: years old, so they were carried and it was a
Speaker 2: bit buggy there. They weren't there very long because of
Speaker 2: what happens, and plus the mosquitoes, they weren't planning on
Speaker 2: being there long, Ash say. So they get down to
Speaker 2: this vantage point where they're looking down and Jason's trying
Speaker 2: to tell the kids, hey, look, there's that moose. And
Speaker 2: they see this brown hump in the water, just a
Speaker 2: brown hump, assuming it was the back of a moose.
Speaker 2: So they're whispering to the kids, Oh, it's going to
Speaker 2: be great when this moose stands up, you'll be able
Speaker 2: to see this moose. They're teaching their kids, giving them
Speaker 2: some culture in the area. Being raised in Alatska fair enough.
Speaker 2: As a kid. I was always raised with the knowledge
Speaker 2: of the woods, so I'm all for that. So they're watching,
Speaker 2: they're thinking, man, it's taken forever for this thing to
Speaker 2: pop its head off. They must have been sitting there
Speaker 2: five to six minutes. Then it stands up. It's not
Speaker 2: a moose. He said, it looked to be about four
Speaker 2: to five feet across the back. They were approximately one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty yards from this snave, so he's estimating
Speaker 2: four and a half five foot across the back. It
Speaker 2: didn't see no discernible neck, just a hump in the center,
Speaker 2: and the little girl screamed. When the little girl screamed,
Speaker 2: its whole body shifted and turned and looked directly up
Speaker 2: at the little girl, which made her breathe freak card.
Speaker 2: They did not know what to do at first. They
Speaker 2: were in shock, and immediately Jennifer has both kids and
Speaker 2: is heading back up the trail back up to this
Speaker 2: airstrip to go back across to where they had their
Speaker 2: boat over at Papoos Lake. They had one of those
Speaker 2: foldable little boats. Said he didn't go to West Papoos
Speaker 2: Lake that often because just how to get there and everything,
Speaker 2: and not many people go there that he was aware of.
Speaker 2: And they didn't see anybody. So she's scrambling with the kids.
Speaker 2: He's got a spire arm out at nineteen eleven to
Speaker 2: forty five acp whatever. He's continuing eye contact with this
Speaker 2: thing and is freaking out. Has no idea. He never
Speaker 2: even had bigfoot, sasquatch or anything on his mind. Ever,
Speaker 2: this experience changed that. He backs up the trail and
Speaker 2: is keeping his firearm pointing at this, saying and this
Speaker 2: thing's just standing in the pond. He gets back up
Speaker 2: to the airstrip with his wife two kids. He decides
Speaker 2: he's going to go and get a friend that lives
Speaker 2: a few miles away, get back up and get someone
Speaker 2: there to witness this with him. So he takes Jennifer
Speaker 2: AND's kids. They jump in their little claps of both
Speaker 2: things and they get back across. They go and he
Speaker 2: goes to talk to his friends. Now, when he gets
Speaker 2: to his buddy's house and starts explaining what happened, his
Speaker 2: buddy immediately is dismissing him, pretty standard practice. He tries
Speaker 2: to explain to his buddy, Hey, I'm being serious. I
Speaker 2: need someone to go with me and check this shit out.
Speaker 2: His buddy reluctantly agrees. They grab some high power rifles
Speaker 2: and video camera, old school video camera. They don't know
Speaker 2: if they'll make use of it or not, but they're
Speaker 2: going to attempt to get something on video. Stay tuned
Speaker 2: for more Sasquatch out to see, we'll be right back
Speaker 2: after these messages. Now, they don't have a lot of
Speaker 2: daylight left. It stays light out that time of year,
Speaker 2: let's be honest. But his buddy didn't want to go
Speaker 2: out that late at night. So Jason's got his backup.
Speaker 2: He's got his buddy to go with him. There's a
Speaker 2: bit of a discussion between them, arguments of is this safe.
Speaker 2: They decide they'll be all right with the firearms, and
Speaker 2: they continue on. They make it back to the point
Speaker 2: of the airstrip with his little quarter boat, and they're
Speaker 2: both hiking over. And as they get to this place
Speaker 2: in the following day, I should say, there's an airplane
Speaker 2: at the strip. And so as they come back and
Speaker 2: get up onto this airstrip, they go and they see
Speaker 2: a guy they want to talk to him. They go
Speaker 2: over to him and they ask, hey, we heard something.
Speaker 2: He saw something yesterday over here. Have you encountered anything?
Speaker 2: The guy chuckled and laughed and said, no one ever
Speaker 2: comes over this way. As a matter of fact, I have.
Speaker 2: I've seen this thing jump in that pond over there
Speaker 2: and never come back up again, and I'll see it
Speaker 2: the next day. So they start discussing with each other.
Speaker 2: It must be going underground, or must have another spot
Speaker 2: it comes out, or whatever. It sparked a memory about
Speaker 2: what the elder shared with me and when he was
Speaker 2: dealing with that those issues on the Quejack River where
Speaker 2: it dived into beaver pond and then was in the
Speaker 2: grove of trees. There's precedents there anyways, and so the
Speaker 2: pilot said, hey, be careful, don't shoot it if you
Speaker 2: don't have to things of this nature, and he had
Speaker 2: to go on about his way. So they went down
Speaker 2: to that little area where him and his wife have
Speaker 2: viewed it the day before, and nothing's going on, and
Speaker 2: his buddy's starting to really think that he's getting pumped.
Speaker 2: He thinks it's some kind of elaborate hoax to tease him,
Speaker 2: and he's not really too happy about it. Jason reassures
Speaker 2: his friend, Hey, look, this ain't a joke. This thing
Speaker 2: is down here. I don't know that pilot, so just
Speaker 2: bear with me. So they sat there for a handful
Speaker 2: of hours and then they heard a loud gurgling sound
Speaker 2: and the water coupluche, and so they watched the water
Speaker 2: bellow out in this spot next to shore of this
Speaker 2: little pond and out pops this thing and it's the
Speaker 2: hunching back and nothing is visible. And immediately his buddy
Speaker 2: is like putting a beat on it with his rifle,
Speaker 2: and Jason's put your gun down, put your gun down,
Speaker 2: let's watch this. Let's watch this thing. So as they're
Speaker 2: watching it does the same thing. It raises up broad
Speaker 2: no neck, just a hump in the center of its
Speaker 2: broad back. And this thing started raising a hand up
Speaker 2: and smacking into the water and pulling out like this
Speaker 2: grassy type of material or whatever, and was flinging it
Speaker 2: up onto the bank. Now they're watching this thing and
Speaker 2: they're just transfixed on whatever this thing is doing. They
Speaker 2: must have watched it for about an hour before his
Speaker 2: buddy stands up and yells at this thing. As soon
Speaker 2: as his buddy stands up and yells at this thing,
Speaker 2: it turns around, stands up all the way. And he
Speaker 2: said it must have been out of the water by
Speaker 2: about five to six feet. They didn't know how deep
Speaker 2: that plond was at that point, but it was obvious
Speaker 2: this thing was a lot bigger than it appeared initially,
Speaker 2: and so they immediately freaked out. His buddy is gone.
Speaker 2: His buddy bails up that trolley runs off. Jason follows,
Speaker 2: looking over his shoulder as he does to make sure
Speaker 2: he's not being followed. Nothing followed him. And as they
Speaker 2: get up back up to the air strip, the pilot
Speaker 2: had already taken off and they were standing on the
Speaker 2: airstrip and his buddy is walking in a circle. He
Speaker 2: lit a cigarette and is trying to calm down. He goes, dude,
Speaker 2: that shouldn't be there. That should not be there. We
Speaker 2: need to go. We can't be here, dude, there's something
Speaker 2: wrong here. We can't be here. And as they're having
Speaker 2: this little argument discussion really, because they were both pretty emotional,
Speaker 2: they heard a gargling screen and at dawned. The whole
Speaker 2: time they're sitting there, they were so transfixed they forgot
Speaker 2: about the little handcam in the pocket and all that shit.
Speaker 2: It came back to him as the scream is happening
Speaker 2: that they hear, so Jason gets out the little handicam,
Speaker 2: takes his forty five, and he goes back down the
Speaker 2: trail to try to record. Now, when he gets to
Speaker 2: that little landing they were at, he notices a big
Speaker 2: wet footprint just to wet outline. Nothing imprinted in the ground,
Speaker 2: and once he saw that, he dropped the camera and bolted.
Speaker 2: This thing had come out of the water, went up
Speaker 2: to where they were and is somewhere in the vicinity
Speaker 2: of this airstrip. So he gets back up to his buddy,
Speaker 2: he goes, hey, it's somewhere over here. So they immediately
Speaker 2: decide to get the hell out of dodge. He has
Speaker 2: not been back first handycam. Anyone in that area finds it,
Speaker 2: say man email, he wasn't able to record a thing,
Speaker 2: and his buddy now won't go to the area with them.
Speaker 2: Just trying to put yourself in these people's footsteps is
Speaker 2: really hard to do without experiencing it yourself. You really
Speaker 2: don't want You really don't want it. I know you do,
Speaker 2: but you really don't, because once you do, you can't.
Speaker 2: There's no going back from that. There's no reset to
Speaker 2: go Okay, I don't have to worry about this anymore.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work that way. When you see one, when
Speaker 2: you hear one screaming, you will never be able to
Speaker 2: go into the woods with the same kind of just
Speaker 2: whatever attitude. You just don't it's impossible. It's one thing
Speaker 2: to worry about bears. It's another thing to worry about
Speaker 2: wolves and all this stuff. But once you see one
Speaker 2: of these things and have it scream at you or
Speaker 2: you just see it run off, there's no fix. There's
Speaker 2: no going back to a peaceful mindset in the woods. Ever.
Speaker 2: Anyone who says they're comfortable in the woods after inexperience
Speaker 2: like that, I believe they're full of shit, because there's
Speaker 2: always gonna be something within you that is screaming, don't
Speaker 2: do it, don't do it. I don't know. I want
Speaker 2: to thank Jason and Jennifer for Sherry, and thanks for
Speaker 2: joining me, and we'll see you on the next WOLFI