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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was or

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<v Speaker 1>was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through

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<v Speaker 1>the window now and I don't see anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go outside. Jesus quice, you better hello, get

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out here. What went on out there? Let's thought

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<v Speaker 1>of a bit of about second fourth nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know easy, im out there, yeah right away,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh greetings. Wanted to share with you today something that

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<v Speaker 2>happened is probably close to twenty years ago now. While

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<v Speaker 2>out berry picking Margaret and we'll call him Kyle. Margaret

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<v Speaker 2>and Kyle were berry picking for a relative. They were

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<v Speaker 2>all getting blackberries, some salmon berries if they're around, just

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<v Speaker 2>berry picking in very similar terrain where I was pointing

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<v Speaker 2>out the salmon berries. Imagine that kind of train that

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<v Speaker 2>they're in, but in this particular place they were picking berries,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot more muskeg. So as they're picking, as

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<v Speaker 2>they're going along, they get separated by about one hundred feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Margaret was more anxious to get the salmon berries first,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was trying to get a couple quarts of them,

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<v Speaker 2>which it doesn't sound like much, but when you're picking

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<v Speaker 2>something this big and trying to fill up a bucket

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<v Speaker 2>takes time. So she's methodically going along and through and

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<v Speaker 2>she hears a grunt. She assumes it's her husband. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>with the assumption of it being the husband, she continues

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<v Speaker 2>doing what she's doing, and there's no immediate sense of dread.

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<v Speaker 2>As she's reaching for a berry, out of the corner

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<v Speaker 2>of her eye, she catches movement. Now, what that movement

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<v Speaker 2>causes her to do is just to sit up and say, hey, han,

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<v Speaker 2>she thought it was her husband right next to her.

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<v Speaker 2>She was in an area close to the trees. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just the black spruce though, there was alder willows

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<v Speaker 2>and various other brush in this particular area. So as

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<v Speaker 2>she says, hey, Han, how's it going on. She starts

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<v Speaker 2>to relay her berry picking in how she was happy

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<v Speaker 2>she was getting berries, and she turns and that figure

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<v Speaker 2>was no longer there. She turns around and realizes her

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<v Speaker 2>husband is too far away to have made the grunt

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<v Speaker 2>noise and had made it in her peripheral vision for

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<v Speaker 2>a brief moment and then make it all the way

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<v Speaker 2>back to where he was picking berries. He had the rifle.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a two seventy, I believe, So immediately she

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<v Speaker 2>gets spooked. She grabs her berry bucket. She stands up.

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<v Speaker 2>She's scanning the area. It's not easy to see into

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<v Speaker 2>that shit. Someone could disappear. Even play in a hide

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<v Speaker 2>and go seek with your friends, someone could disappear into

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<v Speaker 2>that shit and you wouldn't find them if they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want you to find them. So she starts backtracking slowly,

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<v Speaker 2>and with each step she's sensing something doesn't want her there.

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<v Speaker 2>She had the peripheral she assumed it was a human

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<v Speaker 2>like figure, but she wasn't on top of it. She

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in a panic state because she had her husband armed,

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<v Speaker 2>were picking berries good day. So every step she takes

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<v Speaker 2>moving back towards her husband, she's getting that more and

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<v Speaker 2>more of a sense of dread, and so once she's

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<v Speaker 2>close enough to get his attention without yelling because she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to draw any unwanted attention from that area,

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<v Speaker 2>she saw the figure move into out of the corner

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<v Speaker 2>of her eye. As she starts talking back. Her husband

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<v Speaker 2>senses the tone and her voice had changed. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>real dude. He's on top of his shit. He dropped

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<v Speaker 2>his berry buckets and immediately comes over with the rifle.

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<v Speaker 2>They're standing side by side. As he comes up behind her,

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<v Speaker 2>he calmly talking to her as he's getting closer and says,

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<v Speaker 2>just stay there, kneel down like you're picking berries, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do the same. So she takes a step

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<v Speaker 2>away from him, kneels down and legitimately is picking berries,

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<v Speaker 2>and she starts speaking to him in Yupik, telling him

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<v Speaker 2>what had been going on. Why she chose Yupik. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was to disguise they were talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>hairy man. She didn't specify. I meant to ask, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's twenty twenty hindsight. So they sit there. He's laid

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<v Speaker 2>the rifle in front of him, but he's got his

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<v Speaker 2>head down and he's scanning the trees for any movement,

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<v Speaker 2>and he catches something just off to his right hand

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<v Speaker 2>side but in front of him, and so he starts

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<v Speaker 2>focusing on it with his head down, trying to look

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<v Speaker 2>in that direction on the sly and as he's doing so,

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<v Speaker 2>they are hit with little blackberries. And they're confused because

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<v Speaker 2>the berries are being thrown from somewhere off to their

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<v Speaker 2>left in the trees, and they're just right next to

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<v Speaker 2>the tree line in the tundra, and he's facing a

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<v Speaker 2>different direction of which the berries are coming. Immediately, he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks prankster. So he gets mad, because you don't play

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<v Speaker 2>pranks on anyone in the bush. It's not safe, especially

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<v Speaker 2>people who are armed. So he stands up and he

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<v Speaker 2>has the rifle and he starts yelling, hey, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>playing these games. Stop throwing the damn berries. As he's

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<v Speaker 2>walking the direction the berries were thrown from, expecting to

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<v Speaker 2>find some kids they may know, or another villager just

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<v Speaker 2>playing a prank or whatever. He was half expecting that,

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<v Speaker 2>and as he's walking in that direction, he hears his

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<v Speaker 2>wife's scream, turns around and sees her. She's lurched back

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<v Speaker 2>away from her berry picking bucket. And this thing is

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<v Speaker 2>walked out into another patch of black spruce about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>feet away. The way they explain it is as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as he turned his back to go in the direction

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<v Speaker 2>of the berries being thrown, she immediately sees this thing

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<v Speaker 2>come out of the trees because her husband's not looking

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<v Speaker 2>with the gun, and goes over to another stand of

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<v Speaker 2>trees about thirty feet away roughly, and it crossed this

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<v Speaker 2>span in four steps. According to her, she said it

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<v Speaker 2>looked very big, and she had no size reference, but

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<v Speaker 2>she said it was almost as tall as the black

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<v Speaker 2>spruce trees that were in the area, and that would

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<v Speaker 2>make it anywhere between ten and twelve feet tall. So

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<v Speaker 2>she screams, lurches back away from where she was picking,

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<v Speaker 2>and is pointing in the trees just as a husband

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<v Speaker 2>turns and sees the dark figure going to the trees. Immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>berry picking is over, so they gather the bucket, though

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<v Speaker 2>they leaving them without those berries. They were gonna fight

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<v Speaker 2>for him, so as they're backing away, he's keeping mindset

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<v Speaker 2>on something through berries from over here. So they're backing out. Ah, jeez,

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<v Speaker 2>get the chills, because I was just in that environment

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that creepy feeling anyway. I got the hair on

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<v Speaker 2>my arm standing up. We'll make sure it's not because

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<v Speaker 2>of something standing behind me. He's keeping in mind something

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<v Speaker 2>was throwing berries from right over here. As they're backing up,

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<v Speaker 2>he's keeping any on his wife and I over her

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder into the stand of trees, and he's also keeping

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<v Speaker 2>mindful about off to his left hand side. They get

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<v Speaker 2>to a certain point, he notices movement broken up in

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<v Speaker 2>between the trees, because, like I tried to show you,

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<v Speaker 2>you're only gonna catch small bits and pieces of something

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<v Speaker 2>going through brush like that. Right immediately, he moves his

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<v Speaker 2>wife to the side and puts a bead with the rifle,

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<v Speaker 2>just not pointing at it, but in that direction at

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<v Speaker 2>a ready. At this point, they both said they were overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 2>He caught the sense that they can't be there, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they back out. As they're backing out, they noticed

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<v Speaker 2>one of the trees where she saw the one walk

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<v Speaker 2>into and he caught a glimpse of it shaking in

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<v Speaker 2>the center of this group of trees. Now, he said

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<v Speaker 2>that when it was shaking, it was almost like it

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<v Speaker 2>was taking the tree, moving it to the side to

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<v Speaker 2>look at them, moving it back to look at him

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<v Speaker 2>from the other side, and he could see its face.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time it did that, every time it moved it,

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<v Speaker 2>he was making eye contact with this thing. There was noises, cooing,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of noise. Some of it sounded like someone trying

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<v Speaker 2>to speak Upik, but different. She couldn't pinpoint it. And

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<v Speaker 2>as they're hearing the sound, she starts yelling out phrases

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<v Speaker 2>in Yupik. Who is it? Who are you? We're from? Wherever?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are you? She kept asking who are you? In Yupi?

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<v Speaker 2>And as they were back on the husband said, just stop,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing's responding. Let's we gotta go. Just as they got

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<v Speaker 2>to a point where he felt she could get behind

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<v Speaker 2>him and they could turn instead of walking backwards, turn

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<v Speaker 2>and get out of there. Just as they were about

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, they heard in a Yupik like language

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<v Speaker 2>something being said back to them, but it wasn't Ubik.

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<v Speaker 2>It was similar. She's fluent Yupik, but she couldn't place

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<v Speaker 2>what was being said back, but it was Upik like.

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<v Speaker 2>So it makes you wonder was there a universal language

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<v Speaker 2>at one point where all the tribes spoke, Because like

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<v Speaker 2>the Occlute in the Indians, here just down the road,

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<v Speaker 2>towards Anchorage, their dialect of language, they could communicate with

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<v Speaker 2>the Sioux Indians. So there's something universal we have lost

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<v Speaker 2>in the past that I find intriguing because that could

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<v Speaker 2>be a key to really bringing this past a tipping point.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been going out into the field to share people's

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<v Speaker 2>experiences on site because me explaining them I could paint

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good picture, right. But there's something to being

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<v Speaker 2>in an exact location of someone's stuff. That happened with

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<v Speaker 2>James and Debra's experience. When I was in that area

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<v Speaker 2>and I was circling around, there was an overwhelming sense

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<v Speaker 2>of being watched. It wasn't squatch bait. He was circling

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<v Speaker 2>out in the canoe, how dense it was, he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have seen me. I wouldn't have saw him. Gosh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really hard to explain. I was walking in that circle.

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<v Speaker 2>I was half expecting to draw something out. I was

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<v Speaker 2>half hoping to I would rather shoot something with the

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<v Speaker 2>camera versus a firearm. I wasn't there to necessarily shoot anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but being there in that location. A little less than

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<v Speaker 2>a handful of hours later, I was still jacked up

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<v Speaker 2>on adrenaline. From that. We went from the filming location

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<v Speaker 2>for James and Deborah over to it was like close

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<v Speaker 2>to twelve miles away where I filmed that next portion

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<v Speaker 2>with the tundra and the trees. It affected me so

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<v Speaker 2>much that that many hours had passed, that many miles

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<v Speaker 2>had passed, and my adrenaline was still pumping. When you

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<v Speaker 2>get out in the woods and you're doing things berry picking,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it may be, there's something to be said about

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<v Speaker 2>someone's feelings as far as it's almost universal, feelings of dread,

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<v Speaker 2>feelings of gotta go unwelcomed, things of this nature. Not

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<v Speaker 2>one of these people have spoke to me about mind

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<v Speaker 2>speak or portals or anything like that that I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>witnessed myself. I have no dog in that fight. Just

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<v Speaker 2>some things to think about. Why is the fear of

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<v Speaker 2>being struck like that on such a primal level? See

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<v Speaker 2>this bury picking encounter. There's a lot of them that

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<v Speaker 2>are very similar. Maybe I'll do a playlist of bury

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<v Speaker 2>picking chronicles or something, but a lot of them happen

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<v Speaker 2>just like that, whether with a group of people two

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<v Speaker 2>or more, sometimes two, sometimes up to seven different people,

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<v Speaker 2>and there will be a movement attention has got one

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<v Speaker 2>way or another, whether it's silent by peripheral throwing something

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<v Speaker 2>like rocks, berries, sticks, twigs. It makes you wonder why

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<v Speaker 2>they would invite you to see them with throwing stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to get your attention or being in a peripheral what's

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<v Speaker 2>their driving force to get your attention, to draw your attention.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be to lure you away from others, to

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<v Speaker 2>keep you from seeing what they're doing. Because obviously he

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<v Speaker 2>felt and she felt there was more than one. One

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<v Speaker 2>just walked across and then something throwing berries at them

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<v Speaker 2>from a different direction. It's hard to mistake that for

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<v Speaker 2>anything else than being more than one, because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like that one could throw a berry, a boomerang berry,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't see that happening, So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's those intriguing thoughts that really get the mind churning.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the end game of getting our attention when we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing these things? What's the endgame to that? And so

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<v Speaker 2>far no one is stuck around to find out, And

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<v Speaker 2>if they haven't shared their story or they can't really

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<v Speaker 2>intriguing stuff anyway, I wanted to share that very picking encounter,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about those feelings because they're damn near universal up here.

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<v Speaker 2>A primal fear. Something will strike someone funny, even a

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<v Speaker 2>hunter that's been in the woods for thirty years, all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, we'll get this fear. He's never had

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<v Speaker 2>even a bear hunter. I've done bear control. I've had

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<v Speaker 2>him charging at me. That's an adrenaline dump, right the

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<v Speaker 2>holy shit. But it's different. It's on a totally different level.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I'll always follow your gut in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods. If you're wondering why I'm in a rundown

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<v Speaker 2>old RV, I'm just checking it out. I'm on site

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<v Speaker 2>at Jonathan's place. He was traveling the Alcan Highway in

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<v Speaker 2>seventy six or seventy eight. He's in his late seventies now,

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<v Speaker 2>so his exact date really irrelevant to what happened. So

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<v Speaker 2>they had just cleared the Canadian border coming up to

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<v Speaker 2>Alaska on Alcan Highway. When they got to he said

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<v Speaker 2>it was the third rest area. He doesn't exactly remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Him and his then wife, who divorced him shortly after

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<v Speaker 2>this situation. We're basically essentially sleeping right there. New or mattress.

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<v Speaker 2>He tried to start refurbishing a while back and gave

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<v Speaker 2>up on it. Just too many memories ruined it for him.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're at this rest stop. They got done eating,

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<v Speaker 2>they were chilling in here. They were essentially laying down,

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<v Speaker 2>chilling out and listening to a radio of some AM

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<v Speaker 2>station that they could pick up. Now. They weren't horribly

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<v Speaker 2>far from Fairbanks. Wherever there's a turnoff or something. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been so many years since I've been up on al Can.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone probably knows the answer to it. Stay tuned for more,

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<v Speaker 2>ask watch out to see We'll be right back after

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<v Speaker 2>these messages. So they're at this rest area chilling. They're

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<v Speaker 2>mellowing out for the night. It is still early in

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<v Speaker 2>the spring, so it's not like we have the daylight now,

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<v Speaker 2>but it builds day by day at that time of year.

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<v Speaker 2>They were sitting here and they noticed out this window

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<v Speaker 2>here dark shadows going back and forth a couple times,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he jumps up. They didn't have any firearms

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<v Speaker 2>back then. You were allowed certain rifles, no handguns I

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<v Speaker 2>think or something. But he had mailed everything. So he

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<v Speaker 2>was coming up to work in the oil field and

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<v Speaker 2>just bought a place and use this camper to bring

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of his shit up. Now, as he was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to investigate the movement outside the windows. This whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing shakes, it shakes, and it draws his attention to

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<v Speaker 2>the back. Now, once he gets to the back, he

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<v Speaker 2>said that right here in this area, that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>was attempted to be rebuilt. This thing smashed its hand

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<v Speaker 2>up through and was trying to pull essentially this whole

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<v Speaker 2>area off, and commenced to banging and doing some other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a hole put in the ceiling. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he said that crack there came from it as well,

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<v Speaker 2>this crack in the window. So essentially they started trying

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<v Speaker 2>to open this thing like a ten can. Now he's

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<v Speaker 2>in his place right now. He after sharing it with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went over it with them a couple times

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure I had the proper information to share

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<v Speaker 2>to try to gauge their emotion whenever I can. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I just have to read the email and elaborate on

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<v Speaker 2>certain things, like a twisty trail. Anyway, I digressed instantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Where he's standing. He runs forward and grabs something off

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<v Speaker 2>the stove and bashes the arm when it tearing that shit,

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<v Speaker 2>so he bangs the arm. It pulls its arm out,

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<v Speaker 2>pushes against the place, and then I think that's when

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<v Speaker 2>it tried to come through up there. It's been some

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<v Speaker 2>of it's been changed out and some of it has not.

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<v Speaker 2>The old stuff is up in the front, and this

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<v Speaker 2>part here was changed out some years back when he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing the renovation. He's not keeping this. He's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to rebuild it and kind of garner back to earlier

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<v Speaker 2>days or whatever. But he just can't mess with it.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, it tears this part up. It tries to

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<v Speaker 2>come through there. Now they have no firearms whatsoever. All

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<v Speaker 2>he had was some kind of frying pan, a small

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<v Speaker 2>cast iron skillet, and he's running around banging, making a

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<v Speaker 2>whole shit ton of noise as he's doing it. He

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<v Speaker 2>himself tore down these open areas here. He tore the

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<v Speaker 2>doors off of those looking for an old machete he

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<v Speaker 2>used for trail blazing. So he breaks all these down

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<v Speaker 2>looking for it. He finds it, and he attempts to

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<v Speaker 2>hack at it. When it was trying to get its

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<v Speaker 2>hand in, it had broken up all this stuff up

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<v Speaker 2>in here. All this was all replaced and tried to

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<v Speaker 2>reseal and all that. You can see the underpart here

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<v Speaker 2>where he made his attempt at fixing it. Now as

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<v Speaker 2>this attack is going on, his wife at the time

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<v Speaker 2>was under there. Don't blame her, no firearm. I would

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<v Speaker 2>have been under there with her. So he's running around

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<v Speaker 2>hacking with the machete. Whenever it stuck its arm up

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<v Speaker 2>and through, he felt it pulling this whole thing. Man

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<v Speaker 2>from where it was grabbing up and here it was

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<v Speaker 2>like pulling and moving the whole thing. The only thing

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<v Speaker 2>that stopped them from moving any further was the fact

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<v Speaker 2>it was in park. Not a happy feeling. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is basically ten thirty eleven at night that this happens,

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<v Speaker 2>just as it was getting dark enough, still light in

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<v Speaker 2>the sky, but dark everywhere else right, and the tree

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<v Speaker 2>lines especially, So the initial onslaught happens. He hacks away

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<v Speaker 2>all the hacking was where all this stuff has been replaced.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he tried to find the scraps in his garage

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<v Speaker 2>of the hacked parts and whatnot. But I was like that,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe you, don't worry, just tell me what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on. So as he hacks around, it was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pull the thing forward. It was trying to pull

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<v Speaker 2>the top off, and for whatever reason, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>high pitched whistle off in the distance, and it ran off.

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<v Speaker 2>Now when it ran off, he heard other footsteps from

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<v Speaker 2>just outside the doorway run off as well. Then it

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<v Speaker 2>dawned on him that thing wasn't alone, And then he

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<v Speaker 2>thinking back, he wasn't even sure if it was the

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<v Speaker 2>same one that stuck its arm through over here or

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<v Speaker 2>what it could have been a combination of the two.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so freaked out. His ex wasn't a witness

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<v Speaker 2>to any of his. As soon as s it started

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<v Speaker 2>going sideway, she was under there. I think as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as the hand broke through over here is when she

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<v Speaker 2>got under there. Can you imagine having this thing busting

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<v Speaker 2>through the damn ceiling? This thinge was brand new at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and if trying to tear off this cab

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<v Speaker 2>over man, that was some freaky shit. But I shot

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<v Speaker 2>through the wall. They stayed their distance. This thing was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get them, So forgive me. I'm sitting here

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<v Speaker 2>reliving it through what he told me, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to imagine it runs off. He hears another one

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<v Speaker 2>run off. Now he's regrouping, trying to get her from

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<v Speaker 2>out of under there. There's a howl going off in

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<v Speaker 2>the very far distance, and then return gral howls as

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<v Speaker 2>he called them. In the near distance, just off into

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<v Speaker 2>the tree line. Now there at a rest drop. There

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<v Speaker 2>was another Ford pickup at that same rest stop. He

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<v Speaker 2>saw the guy already in his single cab old school

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<v Speaker 2>seventies Ford, sleeping on the bench seat in the front.

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<v Speaker 2>So he runs over to get this guy's attention. Guy's

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<v Speaker 2>already sitting up, has his truck. It just started as

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<v Speaker 2>he comes running up, and the guy jumps back and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, we need your help, We need your help.

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<v Speaker 2>These things attack my RV. The guy said, I saw

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<v Speaker 2>them run off, I'm out of here, and just backs

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<v Speaker 2>out on him and goes. So Jonathan runs back here

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<v Speaker 2>because he didn't want to be left out in the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>so he runs back over here. When he gets inside,

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<v Speaker 2>she's back underneath because he wasn't in there and she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel safe looking out the windows, which I totally understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Comes back in and is trying to put stuff. Took

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<v Speaker 2>the old pads that usually go around and through here.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like he's got an old glass unit. There must

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<v Speaker 2>be one of his. Maybe it's his, no judgment. Just

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<v Speaker 2>notice that that's even got a rick and morty stick

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<v Speaker 2>around it. Hilarious anyway, he's trying to stuff things, the

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<v Speaker 2>old cushions that were here, to see the velcrow where

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<v Speaker 2>they were held in the place and whatnot. He's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to stuff it to fill the holes. Now he's got

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<v Speaker 2>the machete, and I guess a couple of times when

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<v Speaker 2>he was swinging he had struck it at least once

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<v Speaker 2>that he can remember. But he was in a blind

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<v Speaker 2>fury of fear and just whacking away and screaming and

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<v Speaker 2>going off right. So as he gets back in here

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<v Speaker 2>and he's doing all this stuff, that howling has continued,

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<v Speaker 2>not rhythmicallee or anything, but periodically he would hear the

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<v Speaker 2>scream in the distance seemed to get closer, and the

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<v Speaker 2>screams returning. The howl or whatever hal Grau seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>be congregated in one area. Now he's sitting there and

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<v Speaker 2>the dawns on him. I need to get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>So he does what he has to do and fires

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<v Speaker 2>up the rig. He backs out from where he was parked,

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<v Speaker 2>and as he was pulling around to leave out of

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<v Speaker 2>the rest area and hit the road again, he sees

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<v Speaker 2>one of these things cross the road in front of him,

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<v Speaker 2>and also sees one off in the just off the

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<v Speaker 2>side of the road at the tree line that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>run after the other one, did not tell anyone about it.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't even put in a claim for the insurance

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<v Speaker 2>policy that he had for this thing through the dealership

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<v Speaker 2>because he was still making payments on it and they

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<v Speaker 2>had some form of insurance not we have today, but

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<v Speaker 2>had a form of insurance he didn't even file a

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<v Speaker 2>claim on. He actually almost lost this thing twice because

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<v Speaker 2>he stopped making payments on it because of the memories

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<v Speaker 2>of what happened. So they get out of there and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, But can you just can you imagine being

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<v Speaker 2>in here and something actively attacking the roof, attacking the sides,

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<v Speaker 2>ripping all this shit for you, Like it wasn't trying

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<v Speaker 2>to share berries, it wasn't trying to point out the

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<v Speaker 2>fastest shortcuts to get the Fairbanks or wherever it was

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<v Speaker 2>here with an intent. And it still boggles me they

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<v Speaker 2>would try to come through over here when there's all

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<v Speaker 2>these single pane, thin ass windows that are chintz. They're

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<v Speaker 2>real chintzy. There are so many things with these creatures

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<v Speaker 2>that boggle my mind. I just don't I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>get oh. Also right over here, it broke through right

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<v Speaker 2>in this area here with a tanned When it started

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<v Speaker 2>tearing up the thing. Anyway, it just dawned on me

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<v Speaker 2>because I could see light out it. But Jesus, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have wanted to be in here, especially with that

415
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<v Speaker 2>actively tearing through. Holy shit, what I'm gonna share with

416
00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:42.359
<v Speaker 2>you today happened in a place called West Pappoos Lake.

417
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<v Speaker 2>To be exact, I got the topographical here and where

418
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:51.880
<v Speaker 2>this happened was southwest past the airstrip in a bog

419
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:56.400
<v Speaker 2>So here's Pappoos Lake, West Pappoos Lake here that it

420
00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:59.440
<v Speaker 2>happened southwest of there past the airstrip which is here.

421
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.039
<v Speaker 2>It has to be this muskeg area here with a

422
00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:05.440
<v Speaker 2>couple ponds and lakes or whatever. And this is the

423
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:10.319
<v Speaker 2>little Susitna River. Now what happened in this area? So

424
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:13.680
<v Speaker 2>what happened was is this happened actually the week before

425
00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Father's Day two years ago. They were on their way

426
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>just to have some fun explore. They've been to the

427
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:25.720
<v Speaker 2>airstrip before, they went past it, and they went down

428
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 2>this little embankment that opens up into that flats area.

429
00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>What drew them there is Initially they were just playing

430
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.480
<v Speaker 2>around the airstrip, chasing the little ones or whatever. This

431
00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:39.440
<v Speaker 2>was shared from Jason. Jason and his wife Jennifer real

432
00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:42.799
<v Speaker 2>first names. They didn't want their last name shared. So

433
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Jennifer and Jason they're wrangling their kids doing the dad day.

434
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<v Speaker 2>So what ends up happening is the kids are squealing

435
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 2>and screaming, and often the distance they hear this god

436
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:58.440
<v Speaker 2>awful sound. They do not know what the hell made

437
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:02.079
<v Speaker 2>that sound. Jason is out in the woods with his kids. Man,

438
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:06.400
<v Speaker 2>this Alaska, you gotta take it serious. So he does

439
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:09.759
<v Speaker 2>this thing. He gets the firearm, gets Jennifer to get

440
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.319
<v Speaker 2>the kids to a safer spot, and he's going to

441
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>go investigate and confront this sound. Now, he goes down

442
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:21.480
<v Speaker 2>and he's looking out into this flats area and he

443
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>notices a brown hump in one of the ponds in

444
00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the muskeg and he thought, oh cool, a back of

445
00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:30.839
<v Speaker 2>a moose. The moose has got his head under the water,

446
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:32.799
<v Speaker 2>and maybe the kids will be able to see this

447
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.759
<v Speaker 2>moose pop up and show its antlers and stuff with

448
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.240
<v Speaker 2>all the moss hanging off of it. Excellent. So he

449
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>runs back, gets Jennifer and the kids and says, hey,

450
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:44.640
<v Speaker 2>it was just a moose making this weird noise. Let's

451
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:48.640
<v Speaker 2>go look at it. So they go. Jennifer. The two kids,

452
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>a boy and a girl. They were both under three

453
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>years old, so they were carried and it was a

454
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:56.160
<v Speaker 2>bit buggy there. They weren't there very long because of

455
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:59.079
<v Speaker 2>what happens, and plus the mosquitoes, they weren't planning on

456
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>being there long, Ash say. So they get down to

457
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:04.559
<v Speaker 2>this vantage point where they're looking down and Jason's trying

458
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.160
<v Speaker 2>to tell the kids, hey, look, there's that moose. And

459
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 2>they see this brown hump in the water, just a

460
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.039
<v Speaker 2>brown hump, assuming it was the back of a moose.

461
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:14.599
<v Speaker 2>So they're whispering to the kids, Oh, it's going to

462
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.559
<v Speaker 2>be great when this moose stands up, you'll be able

463
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:21.920
<v Speaker 2>to see this moose. They're teaching their kids, giving them

464
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.599
<v Speaker 2>some culture in the area. Being raised in Alatska fair enough.

465
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>As a kid. I was always raised with the knowledge

466
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>of the woods, so I'm all for that. So they're watching,

467
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 2>they're thinking, man, it's taken forever for this thing to

468
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:38.680
<v Speaker 2>pop its head off. They must have been sitting there

469
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 2>five to six minutes. Then it stands up. It's not

470
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.319
<v Speaker 2>a moose. He said, it looked to be about four

471
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.440
<v Speaker 2>to five feet across the back. They were approximately one

472
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty yards from this snave, so he's estimating

473
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:53.880
<v Speaker 2>four and a half five foot across the back. It

474
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't see no discernible neck, just a hump in the center,

475
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and the little girl screamed. When the little girl screamed,

476
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:04.480
<v Speaker 2>its whole body shifted and turned and looked directly up

477
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:08.519
<v Speaker 2>at the little girl, which made her breathe freak card.

478
00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:11.839
<v Speaker 2>They did not know what to do at first. They

479
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.839
<v Speaker 2>were in shock, and immediately Jennifer has both kids and

480
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:17.599
<v Speaker 2>is heading back up the trail back up to this

481
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>airstrip to go back across to where they had their

482
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>boat over at Papoos Lake. They had one of those

483
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 2>foldable little boats. Said he didn't go to West Papoos

484
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Lake that often because just how to get there and everything,

485
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.599
<v Speaker 2>and not many people go there that he was aware of.

486
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:40.319
<v Speaker 2>And they didn't see anybody. So she's scrambling with the kids.

487
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 2>He's got a spire arm out at nineteen eleven to

488
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>forty five acp whatever. He's continuing eye contact with this

489
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 2>thing and is freaking out. Has no idea. He never

490
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:57.039
<v Speaker 2>even had bigfoot, sasquatch or anything on his mind. Ever,

491
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>this experience changed that. He backs up the trail and

492
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.759
<v Speaker 2>is keeping his firearm pointing at this, saying and this

493
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>thing's just standing in the pond. He gets back up

494
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:12.079
<v Speaker 2>to the airstrip with his wife two kids. He decides

495
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 2>he's going to go and get a friend that lives

496
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>a few miles away, get back up and get someone

497
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>there to witness this with him. So he takes Jennifer

498
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>AND's kids. They jump in their little claps of both

499
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 2>things and they get back across. They go and he

500
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 2>goes to talk to his friends. Now, when he gets

501
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>to his buddy's house and starts explaining what happened, his

502
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 2>buddy immediately is dismissing him, pretty standard practice. He tries

503
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:42.839
<v Speaker 2>to explain to his buddy, Hey, I'm being serious. I

504
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>need someone to go with me and check this shit out.

505
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:50.559
<v Speaker 2>His buddy reluctantly agrees. They grab some high power rifles

506
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:55.119
<v Speaker 2>and video camera, old school video camera. They don't know

507
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.279
<v Speaker 2>if they'll make use of it or not, but they're

508
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>going to attempt to get something on video. Stay tuned

509
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>for more Sasquatch out to see, we'll be right back

510
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 2>after these messages. Now, they don't have a lot of

511
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>daylight left. It stays light out that time of year,

512
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 2>let's be honest. But his buddy didn't want to go

513
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.960
<v Speaker 2>out that late at night. So Jason's got his backup.

514
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.880
<v Speaker 2>He's got his buddy to go with him. There's a

515
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:29.440
<v Speaker 2>bit of a discussion between them, arguments of is this safe.

516
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 2>They decide they'll be all right with the firearms, and

517
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:36.039
<v Speaker 2>they continue on. They make it back to the point

518
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 2>of the airstrip with his little quarter boat, and they're

519
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:43.079
<v Speaker 2>both hiking over. And as they get to this place

520
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>in the following day, I should say, there's an airplane

521
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 2>at the strip. And so as they come back and

522
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 2>get up onto this airstrip, they go and they see

523
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:55.599
<v Speaker 2>a guy they want to talk to him. They go

524
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>over to him and they ask, hey, we heard something.

525
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 2>He saw something yesterday over here. Have you encountered anything?

526
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.519
<v Speaker 2>The guy chuckled and laughed and said, no one ever

527
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 2>comes over this way. As a matter of fact, I have.

528
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I've seen this thing jump in that pond over there

529
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 2>and never come back up again, and I'll see it

530
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:16.240
<v Speaker 2>the next day. So they start discussing with each other.

531
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:19.599
<v Speaker 2>It must be going underground, or must have another spot

532
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.519
<v Speaker 2>it comes out, or whatever. It sparked a memory about

533
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:24.240
<v Speaker 2>what the elder shared with me and when he was

534
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 2>dealing with that those issues on the Quejack River where

535
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:29.839
<v Speaker 2>it dived into beaver pond and then was in the

536
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>grove of trees. There's precedents there anyways, and so the

537
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:36.839
<v Speaker 2>pilot said, hey, be careful, don't shoot it if you

538
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>don't have to things of this nature, and he had

539
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 2>to go on about his way. So they went down

540
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 2>to that little area where him and his wife have

541
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>viewed it the day before, and nothing's going on, and

542
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 2>his buddy's starting to really think that he's getting pumped.

543
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 2>He thinks it's some kind of elaborate hoax to tease him,

544
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>and he's not really too happy about it. Jason reassures

545
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 2>his friend, Hey, look, this ain't a joke. This thing

546
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.119
<v Speaker 2>is down here. I don't know that pilot, so just

547
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.119
<v Speaker 2>bear with me. So they sat there for a handful

548
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>of hours and then they heard a loud gurgling sound

549
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and the water coupluche, and so they watched the water

550
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 2>bellow out in this spot next to shore of this

551
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>little pond and out pops this thing and it's the

552
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 2>hunching back and nothing is visible. And immediately his buddy

553
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 2>is like putting a beat on it with his rifle,

554
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and Jason's put your gun down, put your gun down,

555
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 2>let's watch this. Let's watch this thing. So as they're

556
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 2>watching it does the same thing. It raises up broad

557
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>no neck, just a hump in the center of its

558
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.200
<v Speaker 2>broad back. And this thing started raising a hand up

559
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.599
<v Speaker 2>and smacking into the water and pulling out like this

560
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>grassy type of material or whatever, and was flinging it

561
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 2>up onto the bank. Now they're watching this thing and

562
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:01.720
<v Speaker 2>they're just transfixed on whatever this thing is doing. They

563
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 2>must have watched it for about an hour before his

564
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>buddy stands up and yells at this thing. As soon

565
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.240
<v Speaker 2>as his buddy stands up and yells at this thing,

566
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 2>it turns around, stands up all the way. And he

567
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>said it must have been out of the water by

568
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>about five to six feet. They didn't know how deep

569
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>that plond was at that point, but it was obvious

570
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.920
<v Speaker 2>this thing was a lot bigger than it appeared initially,

571
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>and so they immediately freaked out. His buddy is gone.

572
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:39.039
<v Speaker 2>His buddy bails up that trolley runs off. Jason follows,

573
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>looking over his shoulder as he does to make sure

574
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>he's not being followed. Nothing followed him. And as they

575
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>get up back up to the air strip, the pilot

576
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 2>had already taken off and they were standing on the

577
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.960
<v Speaker 2>airstrip and his buddy is walking in a circle. He

578
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.519
<v Speaker 2>lit a cigarette and is trying to calm down. He goes, dude,

579
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>that shouldn't be there. That should not be there. We

580
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 2>need to go. We can't be here, dude, there's something

581
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 2>wrong here. We can't be here. And as they're having

582
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 2>this little argument discussion really, because they were both pretty emotional,

583
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:12.760
<v Speaker 2>they heard a gargling screen and at dawned. The whole

584
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 2>time they're sitting there, they were so transfixed they forgot

585
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>about the little handcam in the pocket and all that shit.

586
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 2>It came back to him as the scream is happening

587
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 2>that they hear, so Jason gets out the little handicam,

588
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>takes his forty five, and he goes back down the

589
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 2>trail to try to record. Now, when he gets to

590
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>that little landing they were at, he notices a big

591
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:37.159
<v Speaker 2>wet footprint just to wet outline. Nothing imprinted in the ground,

592
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 2>and once he saw that, he dropped the camera and bolted.

593
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>This thing had come out of the water, went up

594
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 2>to where they were and is somewhere in the vicinity

595
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 2>of this airstrip. So he gets back up to his buddy,

596
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 2>he goes, hey, it's somewhere over here. So they immediately

597
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>decide to get the hell out of dodge. He has

598
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 2>not been back first handycam. Anyone in that area finds it,

599
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.480
<v Speaker 2>say man email, he wasn't able to record a thing,

600
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and his buddy now won't go to the area with them.

601
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Just trying to put yourself in these people's footsteps is

602
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>really hard to do without experiencing it yourself. You really

603
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 2>don't want You really don't want it. I know you do,

604
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:26.199
<v Speaker 2>but you really don't, because once you do, you can't.

605
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>There's no going back from that. There's no reset to

606
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.719
<v Speaker 2>go Okay, I don't have to worry about this anymore.

607
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.760
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work that way. When you see one, when

608
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 2>you hear one screaming, you will never be able to

609
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 2>go into the woods with the same kind of just

610
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>whatever attitude. You just don't it's impossible. It's one thing

611
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>to worry about bears. It's another thing to worry about

612
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.079
<v Speaker 2>wolves and all this stuff. But once you see one

613
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:55.119
<v Speaker 2>of these things and have it scream at you or

614
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:58.800
<v Speaker 2>you just see it run off, there's no fix. There's

615
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:02.719
<v Speaker 2>no going back to a peaceful mindset in the woods. Ever.

616
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Anyone who says they're comfortable in the woods after inexperience

617
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.840
<v Speaker 2>like that, I believe they're full of shit, because there's

618
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:15.519
<v Speaker 2>always gonna be something within you that is screaming, don't

619
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<v Speaker 2>do it, don't do it. I don't know. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to thank Jason and Jennifer for Sherry, and thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>joining me, and we'll see you on the next WOLFI