Speaker 1: You've created everything. What put a powerful being you are.
Speaker 1: You did these things, but now you're in a human body,
Speaker 1: you forget the power you have.
Speaker 2: What you do is what the whole universe is doing
Speaker 2: at the place you call here, and now you are
Speaker 2: something the whole universe is doing, in the same way
Speaker 2: that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing.
Speaker 1: You're doing doing what you imagination. Welcome to metamistics, where
Speaker 1: you don't know what you don't know. My name's Jonathan
Speaker 1: John and today is wonder Weisday. Thank you guys for
Speaker 1: joining us tonight. Getting a little bit late of a
Speaker 1: start on the show tonight, some technical difficulties on our
Speaker 1: guest Behalf, but he's going to be coming here in
Speaker 1: just a minute. But either way, it's going to be
Speaker 1: an awesome show. Really looking forward to it. And he
Speaker 1: just asked if I can send another invite, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna send that now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we haven't had him on before, you know,
Speaker 3: but I'm really looking forward to, uh kind of just
Speaker 3: seeing what he brings to the table, you know, and
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that we're going to mesh very well,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he seems like a really uh really chilled. One
Speaker 1: of those people that you you listen to and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think they get it, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: there's some people that are still very much blue pilling
Speaker 1: across the world. And I don't mean that in a,
Speaker 1: you know, like a conspiratorial kind of way. It's just that, man,
Speaker 1: there's some people you can just tell they don't even
Speaker 1: question what they're doing here. It's just, Uh, I got
Speaker 1: bills to pay, and I got kids to feed, and
Speaker 1: I got to get to work, and it's all these
Speaker 1: different things that are keeping our minds busy. But it
Speaker 1: just makes you wonder, what are you thinking about when
Speaker 1: your mind is not on that. You know, you have
Speaker 1: sixty thousand thoughts in a day, not one of them
Speaker 1: is worried about, like not worried, but just wondering about
Speaker 1: where you're going, where you're coming from. You know, Like,
Speaker 1: this is something that I have obsessed about, like over
Speaker 1: the past five years, and I just want to try
Speaker 1: and at least come close to what the answer may be.
Speaker 3: You know, I think what it is is, there's so
Speaker 3: many distractions, and it just seems as time goes on
Speaker 3: there's even more distractions, and so whether it's your phone,
Speaker 3: or whether it's you know, the bullshit that you're stressed
Speaker 3: out about or whatever. But it's definitely apparent that some
Speaker 3: people haven't spent the time to kind of look up
Speaker 3: and you know, smell the roses, you know, find or
Speaker 3: look for those spaces in between the notes, you know,
Speaker 3: And it's almost obvious, you know, when you when you
Speaker 3: interact with somebody. You know, there's some people out there
Speaker 3: that you'll interact with, and it's very few that you
Speaker 3: can just almost tell immediately that they're on some some
Speaker 3: other level, you know, some other level of under standing.
Speaker 3: And I don't know how quite to describe that. But
Speaker 3: some other people, man, you can just tell instantly that
Speaker 3: they're completely asleep when it comes to just the bigger picture,
Speaker 3: the grander scope of this reality.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a scary thought to think about if
Speaker 1: you really think about it, Like, of course, that's not
Speaker 1: something that you want to actively think about if you
Speaker 1: have no idea, you don't really even know where to
Speaker 1: get started, you don't know who to trust, you don't
Speaker 1: know which belief system to kind of latch onto, and
Speaker 1: so and I get it, like why people go after religion.
Speaker 1: Totally get it, you know, because it's some somebody else
Speaker 1: already figured it out. You know, I'm gonna trust this person.
Speaker 1: And I'm just you know, my my parents did it,
Speaker 1: my grandparents did it. You know, my whole community did it.
Speaker 1: And and and you don't want to seem like the
Speaker 1: crazy one. But also at the same time, it's kind
Speaker 1: of a safety net. And so I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: something that I've been kind of thinking about lately. And
Speaker 1: I you know, there was a time where I was
Speaker 1: coming really hard at the religious people, and I, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just want to have a little bit
Speaker 1: more empathy and a little bit more open mindedness. My
Speaker 1: only problem is is whenever I'm like kind of hammered
Speaker 1: on for thinking outside the box and not just going
Speaker 1: with the flow, I've never gone with the flow. Hence
Speaker 1: why you know a conspiracy podcast was started in the
Speaker 1: middle of COVID, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's
Speaker 1: it's never been with what everybody else has already done.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why. I don't know, It's just
Speaker 1: one of those baffling thoughts.
Speaker 3: It's funny because I was just thinking that like a
Speaker 3: little bit ago as far as like, well, why is
Speaker 3: it that I don't just pick a religion, you know,
Speaker 3: just to just to sit with that for a little bit,
Speaker 3: Because it's not like I sit there and actually think,
Speaker 3: why am I not just a Christian? You know what
Speaker 3: I mean, just a name one that's super popular. And
Speaker 3: I was thinking, and I was like, I think it's
Speaker 3: probably because I don't want to just do what people
Speaker 3: are saying to do, you know what I mean, maybe
Speaker 3: just to I go off of, you know, what my
Speaker 3: reality consists of based on what I'm experiencing, you know,
Speaker 3: And there's so many things that I've experienced that aren't
Speaker 3: described in the Bible, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: the things that I'm experiencing in real time, rather than
Speaker 3: people just saying, hey, look at we did it, you
Speaker 3: do it too. And I think that's just kind of
Speaker 3: not to say that that's why I haven't but like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it just doesn't just doesn't bible with me, dude,
Speaker 3: you know, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, different different strokes for different folks. There's no I
Speaker 1: don't know. And this is one thing that we have learned.
Speaker 1: There is no right or wrong way. Like that's the
Speaker 1: real truth of it is that, I mean my own
Speaker 1: personal truth as far as you know, the all of
Speaker 1: the spiritual kind of stuff is that you know, don't
Speaker 1: be an asshole, you know, try and treat others with
Speaker 1: the respect that you hope to receive back, and you know,
Speaker 1: don't be selfish and all that other stuff. Like anything
Speaker 1: outside of that, you're probably good.
Speaker 3: You know, I think so too, man. I you know,
Speaker 3: I'm lately I've just been thinking, I'm just going to
Speaker 3: try to make it as simple as possible, you know, like,
Speaker 3: let's not over complicate things. And we're going to do
Speaker 3: that anyways. I think that's just human nature. We're going
Speaker 3: to overthink and we're going to you know, beat ourselves
Speaker 3: up or whatever. But I don't know. Whenever I start
Speaker 3: to go into some type of spiral or some type
Speaker 3: of just over contemplation over something that is probably not
Speaker 3: even real at all, you know what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna just say, Okay, if is this not helping me,
Speaker 3: then I'm just gonna get rid of it, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. It doesn't need to be a part
Speaker 3: of my reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I mean, and it's different for everybody,
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's one of those things where it's
Speaker 1: a it can be. It can be very difficult, especially
Speaker 1: whenever you're going through like one of those dark night
Speaker 1: of the soul kind of situations, you know, and whenever
Speaker 1: you're going through that, it is so difficult because you
Speaker 1: want to just like throw your hands up and fuck it.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do what everybody else did. It seems
Speaker 1: to be the safer route.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'll show up, you know, ten or
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes late to church, so I can kind of
Speaker 1: miss the the singing and all the weird shit that's
Speaker 1: going on at the top of the hour or whatever.
Speaker 1: But you know, after a while, you know, it's anyway. Oh,
Speaker 1: here we go, Huffy, welcome to the show, my good brother.
Speaker 1: We decided to start it, but you didn't miss too much.
Speaker 1: Good sir, how are you hey.
Speaker 4: I'm doing very well. Thank you for having me, guys.
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining Goodhead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, of course, first podcast, So I'm excited and
Speaker 4: nervous to be on here.
Speaker 1: Oh well, we're we're happy to pop that sweet chairry
Speaker 1: of yours, sir.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm you know, you kind of caught my attention.
Speaker 1: I had noticed a lot of videos that you were
Speaker 1: posting on social media and everything, and and I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, that's really rate up our alley with a
Speaker 1: lot of the things that we talk about, and we
Speaker 1: always like to we're always curious about how people get
Speaker 1: to that place. You know, I'm because there's obviously everybody's
Speaker 1: different and we all experience different shit. But it's really
Speaker 1: cool to see you know, your your perspective and everybody
Speaker 1: else's perspective on kind of getting to where you got to. So,
Speaker 1: first of all, could you tell the one out there,
Speaker 1: that's what we call our listeners, the one, But could
Speaker 1: you tell the one out there who you are? How
Speaker 1: you came to be?
Speaker 5: Sir?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: First of all, how are my levels? Are they too
Speaker 4: loud to know?
Speaker 1: You sound great?
Speaker 4: Okay? Cool? Uh So I'm huffy. I'm from West Virginia,
Speaker 4: United States, And uh yeah, I make I make music,
Speaker 4: I like to beatbox, I make videos, you know, self help.
Speaker 4: I guess kind of spiritual quote unquote topics. How came
Speaker 4: to be?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: That's uh, that's a lot, you know, that's a lot,
Speaker 4: a big question. But uh, I think the the trigger
Speaker 4: point for me has always been like, for some reason,
Speaker 4: first thing I knew coming down to this reality. You know,
Speaker 4: this world is that aliens. To my understanding, even as
Speaker 4: a young kid, very young, is when I looked up
Speaker 4: at the stars, I just knew the aliens, like I
Speaker 4: just knew that there was something else more than just
Speaker 4: what we were being told here.
Speaker 1: And yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it just the wonder that it brought and
Speaker 4: everything and just the sheer expansion of just just my
Speaker 4: my perception even just looking at the stars to night,
Speaker 4: you know, So that that was just something that I
Speaker 4: just always knew was something extra that wasn't really talked
Speaker 4: about ever. So that was kind of my initiation, I guess,
Speaker 4: into this world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking at the stars with like a like a
Speaker 1: childlike wonder, you know, just open minded, not being like
Speaker 1: one of those people they just look up in the
Speaker 1: scars in the stars and they're just like, oh they're
Speaker 1: just you know, planets or they're just exploding things that
Speaker 1: are you know, we're just now seeing the light to
Speaker 1: and no wonder whatsoever, you know. And that that always
Speaker 1: kind of triped me up a little bit because I
Speaker 1: could just stand like I could stare up at the
Speaker 1: stars for hours. Dude, I love that shit, and just
Speaker 1: with pure wonder and that is uh, that's the good stuff.
Speaker 1: And you know what's really strange is is that whenever
Speaker 1: I was younger, we saw like everybody, like all the
Speaker 1: kids in my neighborhood. We were all around about the
Speaker 1: same age like me, my brother and my sister, all
Speaker 1: their friends, all my friends. We would all like get
Speaker 1: together and ride bikes. We had a pretty cool like
Speaker 1: neighborhood full of a big old group of kids. And
Speaker 1: we would all like you know, play hide and go
Speaker 1: seek at night. And but you'd take the lightning bugs
Speaker 1: and like kind of wear them, like you know, like
Speaker 1: the eye black. And and then we would just lay
Speaker 1: out in the grass after running around all night, we
Speaker 1: look up at the stars and everybody would pick like
Speaker 1: their planet, because you know, you would hear that like
Speaker 1: you know, you can name a star after your kid
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then so we kind of just pretended
Speaker 1: with that, and you know, everybody would look up at
Speaker 1: the stars and they would all have picked theirs. And
Speaker 1: and I remember like vividly looking up in the stars
Speaker 1: and being like, you know what, I don't want to
Speaker 1: pick a star. I want to pick that little cluster
Speaker 1: up there. I didn't know what it was at the time,
Speaker 1: and uh, come to find out it's the Pleiades, and
Speaker 1: then dude, crazy things have happened since then. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what the how would I have even known to even
Speaker 1: how did that even catch my eye in the first place?
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's a fun thing, you know,
Speaker 1: just looking up at the stars and just wondering. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, as far as aliens go, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: real with you. I have no fucking clue what is
Speaker 1: going on in the alien world. I remain very open minded.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, you know, it could be an ORB,
Speaker 1: could be a satellite. I have no idea. We don't
Speaker 1: know the government's technology or anything like. I want to
Speaker 1: be very open minded. I want to believe that that
Speaker 1: is a fucking UFO going off in the sky. It's
Speaker 1: not to say that like I haven't seen some some
Speaker 1: UFO videos and stuff like that that are very convinced,
Speaker 1: you know, definitely have seen those. But yeah, what do
Speaker 1: you think is really going on? Do you think that
Speaker 1: there's some Pleadians and some Reptilians and some andromedins and
Speaker 1: what do you or what do you think is really
Speaker 1: up with that?
Speaker 4: Well, I will say that. So in twenty nineteen, So okay,
Speaker 4: so have have you heard of the indigo child idea?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, So back in twenty nineteen, I was
Speaker 4: just I was on what's that YouTube channel. It's called
Speaker 4: like stargate or something like that. It's this YouTube channel
Speaker 4: that does just off topic, kind of metaphysical and just
Speaker 4: back like off history type of topics, and just scrolling
Speaker 4: through the comments, someone typed out, what do you think
Speaker 4: about indigo children? And like, just seeing that word like
Speaker 4: kinda like flash something in my in my consciousness or something,
Speaker 4: and like, for some reason, I just had to look
Speaker 4: up that that term. So I looked it up, uh,
Speaker 4: and actually went and bought a book about it. So
Speaker 4: the book came in the mail a few days later,
Speaker 4: and I and I was going to the gym at
Speaker 4: about five thirty every morning, just because that's when I
Speaker 4: woke up and it's easiest to get it done, you know,
Speaker 4: right then and there, just so I don't have to
Speaker 4: waste my time later about it. So when I was
Speaker 4: leaving my house, I had the Indigo Child book in
Speaker 4: my hand for the first time, and I had my
Speaker 4: hammock and like my cell phone and stuff. On my
Speaker 4: other hand my bottle, and it was I left my
Speaker 4: the front door and it was still nighttime, and the
Speaker 4: angle of my door facing the sky, it was a
Speaker 4: perfect angle. I saw so much of the sky. And
Speaker 4: every day when the stars are out and the nice
Speaker 4: sky is out, you know, I would always just stare
Speaker 4: up at the sky. And because you know, I your
Speaker 4: belief system. I the way I see it is your
Speaker 4: belief system really dictates what you experience, you know, such
Speaker 4: your subconscious mind, you know, and it's kind of you're
Speaker 4: running off of your own programming essentially.
Speaker 1: So it's the natural overlay almost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. So just like literally since I was like
Speaker 4: four or five years old, like just I just had
Speaker 4: such a strong belief that aliens were real, and you know,
Speaker 4: I didn't really know exactly what that meant, but just
Speaker 4: in my dreams, I had seen Ufo so much and stuff,
Speaker 4: even as a young kid, and flying around with UFOs
Speaker 4: in my dreams. So anyway, I look up at the sky.
Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen, I had this Indigo Child book in
Speaker 4: my hand for the first time, and I see one
Speaker 4: one white light is you know, the best way I
Speaker 4: can describe it, very bright, super high up in the sky.
Speaker 4: I could tell it's not just like a drone sitting
Speaker 4: low end, and it's five point thirty in the morning.
Speaker 4: It's coming from the far I'll say west, and I
Speaker 4: don't know exactly what direction, you know, left, right, and forward.
Speaker 4: It's coming from the far right side of the sky.
Speaker 4: And it's just absolutely breaking wind, just crossing the distance
Speaker 4: of the sky super quick. No way, it's a plane.
Speaker 4: And I look because it's going straight, so I actually
Speaker 4: look and see where it's going. And there's an another
Speaker 4: one on the left side of the sky going towards it.
Speaker 4: They're both going towards each other, and I'm thinking, dude,
Speaker 4: this is what I've built my whole life. I've been
Speaker 4: waiting for this, my entire life.
Speaker 3: For this moment.
Speaker 4: And I was like scrambling to get my phone because
Speaker 4: I have my phone in this book and my hammock
Speaker 4: on my hand, and I was trying to film it.
Speaker 4: And then as I'm pulling out my phone, there's a
Speaker 4: third one that's coming towards them from just in front
Speaker 4: of me. Then they're all just absolutely destroying normal speeds,
Speaker 4: you know, for the aircrafts that we know of. And
Speaker 4: then so I'm thinking these things are about the crash
Speaker 4: right here, literally right above my head. It's literally they're
Speaker 4: literally right above my head. So I get out my
Speaker 4: phone and the phone. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 4: tried to film something like that, but it doesn't really
Speaker 4: catch much up in the sky for some reason. You know,
Speaker 4: it's funny. But so I just I get rid of
Speaker 4: my phone. I just put it in my pocket whatever.
Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here watching and all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: before they start to crash, they have a dragon blood
Speaker 4: crystal in my hand. So before they all three crash,
Speaker 4: they literally all converge and they start swirling and dancing
Speaker 4: around each other like this like some sort of holy trinity.
Speaker 4: Oh you know what, it's kind of like that Celtic
Speaker 4: symbol the I don't know what they call it, but
Speaker 4: like that that three swirled the Celtic not kind of yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know what it's called, like the
Speaker 4: actual name of it or whatever, but yeah, it's like
Speaker 4: they were moving in that formation. Uh, and they just
Speaker 4: kept doing it for like thirty thirty five seconds, and
Speaker 4: it's like the feeling that I mean, I can't even
Speaker 4: really explain the feeling.
Speaker 5: I had.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sit here and say that I had
Speaker 4: some telepathic you know, they they gave me some prophetic
Speaker 4: message for five years in advance or anything, you know,
Speaker 4: but yeah, that would have been pretty handy. Probably couldn't
Speaker 4: capitalized on that, but yeah, it was a surreal moment.
Speaker 4: And they danced around each other. Then they all just
Speaker 4: dispersed the same directions they came in from. They all dispersed,
Speaker 4: and they just broke across the sky.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: And again, I don't believe in coincidences at all. So
Speaker 4: the first time I had that Indigo Child book in
Speaker 4: my hand, and the cover of the book is literally
Speaker 4: stars in the sky, you know. So it's like so
Speaker 4: from that, from that moment, I said, okay that I
Speaker 4: can only follow you know, links like that.
Speaker 3: So wow, how long ago twenty nineteen, so I don't
Speaker 3: know what month it was, It was probably April.
Speaker 1: Right, wod Yeah, there's I don't believe in in coincidences
Speaker 1: like that. And I would say, actually, for you to
Speaker 1: wake up that early and regularly up until that point,
Speaker 1: I don't I just think that that was probably meant
Speaker 1: for you, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think that that was just a happenstance or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Then you're carrying the Indigo Child book, which is pretty
Speaker 1: damn crazy and also one hundred percent like not a satellite,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like satellites ain't doing that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, drones. I mean you could say that
Speaker 4: they were drones dancing around each other, but they were
Speaker 4: just the distance they covered was.
Speaker 3: Just the speed. The speed you were saying that they
Speaker 3: were flying is there's no way that was a drone. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And honestly, they looked like there was the same height
Speaker 4: as like planes were, So it's not like they were
Speaker 4: just a few hundred feet above me. They were directly
Speaker 4: above me, but they were still like way up there,
Speaker 4: you know, borderline, different atmosphere, you know. So it was
Speaker 4: it was crazy, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then you're out there in West Virginia country roads. Dude,
Speaker 1: I actually I grew up in Pennsylvania, so like you're
Speaker 1: just south of where I grew up at. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, and it's so wooded up there and everything,
Speaker 1: and well that kind of brings me to my next question, like,
Speaker 1: is the uh the sasquatch you know a watch up there?
Speaker 1: Crazy in West Virginia.
Speaker 4: Ah, I have not personally seen with my own eyes,
Speaker 4: and that's all I can base my experience off of
Speaker 4: anything about is that? Is that something about West Virginia's squatchs.
Speaker 1: I just you know, typically in like heavily wooded areas
Speaker 1: in West Virginia, Pennsylvania super like great hunting areas.
Speaker 4: You know, Appalachians is they say, the Appalachians are, you know,
Speaker 4: the oldest mountains in the in the world. I guess so.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of stuff of cryptids and stuff.
Speaker 4: I have one funny story about a strange Appalachian story,
Speaker 4: and that's one time. It was college. I don't know
Speaker 4: exactly what year it was, but me and my friends
Speaker 4: were going to a party, some birthday party later at night,
Speaker 4: and we're driving to this unknown location in the backwoods.
Speaker 4: I don't know what county it was, but it was
Speaker 4: right here in the backwoods of West Virginia. And uh,
Speaker 4: we rounded some I mean it's just black and it's trees.
Speaker 4: So we rounded this corner and we see a light
Speaker 4: in the distance. We're like, what's going on? So as
Speaker 4: we're driving, like that must be the party that's that's
Speaker 4: like a fire for the party. So we get up
Speaker 4: closer and there's like, uh, there's like cutouts of like
Speaker 4: bears and cutouts of people around this fire, and there's
Speaker 4: people like kind of dancing around the fire, and they
Speaker 4: had I won't say they had hoods on, but they
Speaker 4: kind of looked like they had hoods on. So we
Speaker 4: just reversed and got about it there. But that that's
Speaker 4: the craziest Appalachian Wood story I say, I have.
Speaker 1: Oh they get down crazy up there, dude.
Speaker 4: They they must, they must back in these woods.
Speaker 3: I wonder what if going on with the Sasquatch though,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, what what are people
Speaker 3: getting out of the Sasquatch other than it just being
Speaker 3: a mystery you know, likesquatch is giving us messages and
Speaker 3: like downloads and like it almost seems like it would
Speaker 3: just be consciousness as way of just playing a joke
Speaker 3: or something. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also that that chase, that that mystery chase,
Speaker 4: I think is something that some people can't you know.
Speaker 4: It's like conspiracies, because conspiracies are so like I think
Speaker 4: they're so necessary on the you know, awakening journey, you know,
Speaker 4: the spiritual journey or whatever. But at some point, you know,
Speaker 4: that chase of like getting to know the secret behind
Speaker 4: what's really going on kind of can keep you stuck
Speaker 4: in a chase. You know, you're always chasing that thing.
Speaker 4: So I don't know it. I think that there's a
Speaker 4: reason to think that Bigfoot would be real. I would say,
Speaker 4: things just don't spawn out of nothing. That's just kind
Speaker 4: of how I think. I don't think anything like giants.
Speaker 4: I think giants are real.
Speaker 1: I mean just cryptids in general. There's been way too
Speaker 1: many sightings, whether it is whether it's like dog Man
Speaker 1: or you know, a sasquatch or I mean name of
Speaker 1: there's so many of them, and we've talked, dude, I've
Speaker 1: talked about so many different cryptid and bigfoot stories over
Speaker 1: on the Cult that it is like why I have
Speaker 1: another podcast called the Cult of Conspiracy. We go into
Speaker 1: all that cryptid shit Skinwalker Ranch and like all that
Speaker 1: fun stuff, and some people will actually say that I
Speaker 1: don't know if I believe this or not, maybe that
Speaker 1: the stuff that's going on over at Skinwalker is a
Speaker 1: result of some kind of portal being opened by magic
Speaker 1: or witchcraft. I'm like, maybe, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: they kind of seem like not very welcoming, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, is it from the underworld? Is
Speaker 1: there some upside down stranger shit, stranger things shit going
Speaker 1: on here or.
Speaker 4: What it just came out. It just came out in
Speaker 4: new season, right. I do honestly think that that I
Speaker 4: don't know a ton about Skinwalker rants, but the stuff
Speaker 4: that I've heard of, stuff that I've seen, it definitely
Speaker 4: seems like some portal stuff going on. I can definitely
Speaker 4: believe I can subscribe to it for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it's over in that area where there's
Speaker 1: a lot of shit that goes down over on and
Speaker 1: that's on that side of the country, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that kind of stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: especially whenever you look at you know, because the majority
Speaker 1: of the alien sightings and every thing really started to
Speaker 1: pop off like in the forties. There was mention of
Speaker 1: it a little bit before the nineteen forties, but really
Speaker 1: it was Roswell, and even like a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: leading up to Roswell, there was a bunch of sightings
Speaker 1: and I just find it to be very interesting timing
Speaker 1: project paper Clip coming over over here, with the Nazis
Speaker 1: coming over here, and bringing all their you know, weird
Speaker 1: tech and shit. Then you got Jack Parsons starting jet
Speaker 1: propulsion labs and all that kind of stuff right during
Speaker 1: that time, and of course, like all the alien and
Speaker 1: UFO stuff really starts to go crazy. My question is is, like,
Speaker 1: all right, I find it strange about how like spaceships
Speaker 1: have evolved. You know, it used to only be flying saucers,
Speaker 1: and it was like that for you know, thirty years ish,
Speaker 1: thirty forty years, and now all of a sudden they're orbs.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of I'm not saying that I don't
Speaker 1: believe it. I just wouldn't put it past just like
Speaker 1: black budget military shit to just really be trying to
Speaker 1: lie to us about a lot of things. I try
Speaker 1: to stay very open minded with it, of course, though for.
Speaker 4: Sure it could be either or it could be both.
Speaker 4: Even you know what I saw, I would say that
Speaker 4: it could definitely be orbs what I saw, because I
Speaker 4: used to not even I don't even know what orbs are,
Speaker 4: you know, I have no I have not looked into
Speaker 4: what that would be other than that's just straight extra
Speaker 4: dimensional reflections of the self, you know, entities. You know,
Speaker 4: that's that has to be extra dimensional if they don't
Speaker 4: even have a straight physical matter vessel, you know, they're
Speaker 4: just light beings floating around. But yeah, so I I
Speaker 4: couldn't say what I saw, but I've definitely I have
Speaker 4: seen craft on multiple occasions. So and again, maybe maybe
Speaker 4: it's both. Maybe it is craft and maybe the craft
Speaker 4: or are some black budget behind curtain you know, uh,
Speaker 4: stuff that we're not told t R three B type
Speaker 4: technology dorito.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, yeah, it could it literally could be anything,
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm getting excited. I get very excited
Speaker 1: about it, especially with the new documentary that was just
Speaker 1: released called the uh I think it was called The
Speaker 1: Age of Disclosure, dude, that and a lot more people,
Speaker 1: you know, are are starting to be a little bit
Speaker 1: more open minded about aliens and UFOs and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I believe that there is non human intelligence.
Speaker 1: You want to call that an alien, you want to
Speaker 1: call that an unidentified flying object? For sure, especially with
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that's coming out of the oceans
Speaker 1: with the us OS is what they're called the unidentified
Speaker 1: some merge objects which are going like way faster than
Speaker 1: anything that we can even fly in the sky. Let
Speaker 1: let alone like going up against you know, the buoyancy
Speaker 1: and density of water, which is crazy.
Speaker 4: For sure for sure. Yeah, so I think, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: go ahead.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just you know, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: think about it. You know. It's like, especially with this
Speaker 1: whole kind of a spiritual identity that I'm really trying
Speaker 1: to step into, as far as if it's all one,
Speaker 1: if it's all one dream, if it's all one matrix,
Speaker 1: all one simulation, and not to get like too weird
Speaker 1: about it or whatever, but like, dude, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite Rick and Morty episodes was where I think Mordy
Speaker 1: got trapped into a video game and it was like
Speaker 1: everybody was Morty, and Rick was trying to come in
Speaker 1: there and say like, you're my grandson, and all of
Speaker 1: you were Morty and and they're like, oh, I'm Morty.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: It was stupid, But I think that there's something along
Speaker 1: those lines that what we have going on here is
Speaker 1: kind of just like different emanations of one thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I for sure agree with that. And
Speaker 4: you know, the the hermetic principles, you know, saying, you know,
Speaker 4: the universe is mental, you know, mentalism and such. It's
Speaker 4: easy to read that and be like, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's all on the mind. You know, it's easy to
Speaker 4: read that and just take that. But as of late,
Speaker 4: as of the last like a few months, it's really
Speaker 4: just kind of absorbed. Like I'm like, I'm just kind
Speaker 4: of absorbed that information. It's kind of really struck to that,
Speaker 4: like it is just for me, it's just all there.
Speaker 4: I'm to the point now, honestly where I don't even
Speaker 4: know if there's a physical anything at all, you know,
Speaker 4: because if it's all in the mind, and the mind
Speaker 4: isn't even physically real, it's essentially because it's all just awareness,
Speaker 4: you know, at the end of the day, it's just
Speaker 4: one awareness funneled through infinite different versions, through a tree,
Speaker 4: through a dog, through me, through you, you know it. So
Speaker 4: I mean, who's to say that I'm anything. I'm to
Speaker 4: that point right now, So I mean, fascinating.
Speaker 1: May as well just be you know, some kind of
Speaker 1: prism at this point. But yeah, that's funny that you
Speaker 1: bring that up, because literally, our most recent episode that
Speaker 1: we shot just the other night was about the seven
Speaker 1: Harmatic Principles. We've gone over it before, but we like
Speaker 1: wanted to go back over it again because we had
Speaker 1: like this crazy, like hellish nightmarish chaotic psychedelic trip and
Speaker 1: we were like, all right, we need to get our
Speaker 1: fucking bearings here, dude, Like our foundation was absolutely shaken
Speaker 1: to the core. We need to bring it back. It's timed,
Speaker 1: you know, so going back over that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: it really balances you out a little bit at least,
Speaker 1: you know, if that's something that you know, if you need,
Speaker 1: like and this was kind of like one of the
Speaker 1: main things we were talking about in that show was
Speaker 1: having some sort of like spiritual anchor, you know, like
Speaker 1: something that you can hold on to that like if
Speaker 1: your mind starts to go crazy or if you start
Speaker 1: to lose grasp of something, what's one thing that you
Speaker 1: like almost no down to the soul, like you know,
Speaker 1: to be absolutely true. And you know, for us it's new.
Speaker 1: It's it's the seven Hermatic principles. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any way of even denying them.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's it's something that we observe, it's something that we experience.
Speaker 3: It's something that just seems so fundamental of this reality,
Speaker 3: you know. So yeah, definitely definitely something I can look
Speaker 3: at and go Okay, I I kind of know what's
Speaker 3: going on, you know. Yeah, I don't have all the answers,
Speaker 3: but at least know that this still holds to be
Speaker 3: true for sure.
Speaker 4: I absolutely agree too. I think that there's and that's
Speaker 4: what I was saying earlier. It's like something like that
Speaker 4: where it's like, so it's almost like irrefutable in a way,
Speaker 4: like if you're on this path, if you're open to
Speaker 4: the knowledge, if you're if you can resonate with it,
Speaker 4: it's almost like you read that and it's like, ah,
Speaker 4: I now know, I know the truth now, you know.
Speaker 4: But for me, it was like, uh an integration period
Speaker 4: after that where it's like even years. I mean I
Speaker 4: read that stuff years ago, you know, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: now I know it. But it did take like many
Speaker 4: years to where it like actually sunk into the ocean
Speaker 4: of the unconscious mind, you know, where it really has
Speaker 4: to sink into your beliefs, I guess. And it's funny
Speaker 4: because recently, and I'm you know it, I don't know
Speaker 4: what success or anything is, but recently when I really
Speaker 4: turned a new corner in my mind, like because my
Speaker 4: biggest battle, one of my biggest battles has always been
Speaker 4: with the government. It's like, oh, I hate the government, man,
Speaker 4: they may be sick, come.
Speaker 1: On, I hate them, yes, yes, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but recently, like in the last month or two,
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly when, but recently, I just like
Speaker 4: it really, it really hit me. And it goes back
Speaker 4: into the the the universe is mental. It's like, well,
Speaker 4: if everything is one mind, then the government is also
Speaker 4: a part of my mind or the one mind, you know, so,
Speaker 4: you know, so that eliminates a fear because I can
Speaker 4: only hate something to me, and maybe you guys can
Speaker 4: think something different and I'd be completely fine. But for me,
Speaker 4: I can only hate something if I'm scared of it,
Speaker 4: you know, like I can't because if I if I'm not,
Speaker 4: if I don't hate it, if I'm not scared of it,
Speaker 4: then I can find some way to relate to it
Speaker 4: in some way or some or find a way to
Speaker 4: see myself in it. So for me, if everything is me,
Speaker 4: if the headset that I'm wearing is me right now,
Speaker 4: my computer screen is me, and you guys are me,
Speaker 4: then that must mean the government, which I only see
Speaker 4: through a screen. By the way, I can you can
Speaker 4: I can see a cop driving down the road, or
Speaker 4: I can see a government official walking into a government building,
Speaker 4: But what does what does that mean? You know, that
Speaker 4: doesn't really mean anything. It's they're just part of the
Speaker 4: game that we're playing, you know.
Speaker 3: So that's just Heppy out there experiencing shit, you know,
Speaker 3: with the one consciousness. That's right. That's what I really
Speaker 3: that's what I really dig about, you know, this whole
Speaker 3: spiritual path, because it's really opened me up too to
Speaker 3: being able to realize exactly what you just said. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean, we're all we're all the same,
Speaker 3: you know, And there's any way for someone to gain
Speaker 3: more empathy and compassion, it's to understand that we all
Speaker 3: came from the same thing. You know, we aren't different.
Speaker 3: I mean, sure we have different characteristics, you know, but
Speaker 3: ultimately we are all made up of the same star dust,
Speaker 3: you know. And so and that's a that's an awesome
Speaker 3: thing to think about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's weird to uh whenever you start getting
Speaker 1: in that mindset. And it was so strange, dude, because
Speaker 1: when we first started the show, we really love the
Speaker 1: idea that everything was one. But I don't think that
Speaker 1: it clicked until I don't know, a few months ago
Speaker 1: really where it was like bam, like I just accepting
Speaker 1: it rather than just like oh yeah, that could be
Speaker 1: it and like transmuting it to like, all right, what
Speaker 1: if it is that? Like what if the reality that
Speaker 1: we experience on a daily basis is not what we've
Speaker 1: always thought that it is something more like this, you know,
Speaker 1: and it would make sense if you listen to all
Speaker 1: of the sages and the Saviors and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: you know, where they're you know, treat your neighbor as yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, like this is what and it's not even
Speaker 1: just a Jesus thing or a Buddha thing or you know,
Speaker 1: a Para mahanse Yokananda thing. Like they've all talked about
Speaker 1: the same shit. There's and that's what I always found
Speaker 1: so fascinating was that almost every spiritual walk of life
Speaker 1: had some kind of resonant undertone to where they're all
Speaker 1: almost talking about the same exact thing.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: There's there's different flavors, and there's different colors, and there's
Speaker 1: different like kind of spawn off beliefs from the core
Speaker 1: of the message. But like, man, they really are starting,
Speaker 1: like not starting, but we've kind of started to see
Speaker 1: that there are spiritual truths within almost everything out there,
Speaker 1: and that is what is baffling. And this is why,
Speaker 1: you know, we've been saying it since the beginning. We're
Speaker 1: kind of just like a coexist bumper sticker kind of
Speaker 1: situation going on here to where it's like, you know, look,
Speaker 1: there's truth that you can find in every little thing
Speaker 1: out there, and you know, and and it's it's hard
Speaker 1: to really get your mind on like if everybody is right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like that idea, because some
Speaker 1: people will literally say you're going to hell or you're
Speaker 1: going to this place, or you're gonna be judged for that,
Speaker 1: and it's like they can't all be right, like one
Speaker 1: hundred percent right. But at the same time, if it's
Speaker 1: all up to the individual, then to them it's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: To that person's absolutely right. And that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: the fun that that we've been kind of head tripping over.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Everybody's got their own universe, you know, the entirety of
Speaker 4: the universe is in everybody's everybody's mind. You know, they
Speaker 4: they funneled down the entirety of source you know that
Speaker 4: won this and uh so, yeah, they're running off of
Speaker 4: what they've you know, been conditioned, you know, some from
Speaker 4: young age. I'm you know, for the most part, pretty
Speaker 4: much everyone runs off of that. Obviously you can break
Speaker 4: out of that, but.
Speaker 1: Easiself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're always right in your own world. That's
Speaker 4: why I stopped just you know, online debates, online arguments
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. It's it's really a wasted time
Speaker 4: in my world, because what's a debate other than you're
Speaker 4: just trying to flex what you know and and hope
Speaker 4: that someone else will change their mind. But you know,
Speaker 4: and well what you know, what, what's that even accomplishing.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, do you really need
Speaker 3: them to like in your do you need that person
Speaker 3: to believe what you believe?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, it's not helping anybody, But if nothing else,
Speaker 3: it might be harming the situation because they they probably
Speaker 3: have to be that character for the people within their reality,
Speaker 3: you know, So yeah, that might just throw it everything off.
Speaker 3: I feel like the universe itself or consciousness itself is
Speaker 3: trying to figure itself out, and so Christianity, Yeah, spirituality
Speaker 3: name your thing is all of the multiple ways that
Speaker 3: it can be done. You know, I'm doing it in
Speaker 3: real time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Huffey.
Speaker 1: Did you grow up in any form of religion, like,
Speaker 1: did your parents bestow upon you that gift?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 4: Well, both of my parents, I would say, we're definitely Christian,
Speaker 4: but I didn't really grow up in a church going
Speaker 4: house or anything. My grandparents were actually more religious on
Speaker 4: my mom's side, and so I did go to like
Speaker 4: Sunday School for a week, you know, during the summer
Speaker 4: here and there, and I was baptized. I was baptized
Speaker 4: once in front of a whole crowd, which is another
Speaker 4: interesting thing, because they want you to experience that stuff
Speaker 4: in front of a whole crowd of people, will being
Speaker 4: like yeah, grads, yeah, all part of the ritual. You know,
Speaker 4: it was a straight ritual. I'm honestly, I'm grateful I
Speaker 4: could have experienced it because it was a real trip.
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, I think it just never it never.
Speaker 4: I could never subscribe to it. The it just never
Speaker 4: clicked in my mind. And plus I do have an
Speaker 4: older brother and he was never religious either, so I
Speaker 4: was heavily influenced by his perspective and stuff. So in
Speaker 4: that way, I also I am grateful for that as well,
Speaker 4: because he helped me because I mean, you're you're getting
Speaker 4: baptized in front of sixty five people and they're all
Speaker 4: coming up and shaking your hand like, hey, congrats, you're
Speaker 4: so brave. Congrats. You know, it's like, whoa, hey, I
Speaker 4: did something great. You know, it could be an easy
Speaker 4: anchor to keep you into that little world you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, Yeah, feeding the ego a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's funny too, because you know, especially so
Speaker 1: I I I get approached by a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you know, all on the internet, just with the podcast
Speaker 1: presence and in people in my real life to where
Speaker 1: they're you know, they'll they'll maybe ask me what my
Speaker 1: spiritual beliefs are, or they'll they'll hear me talking about
Speaker 1: some you know, off the cuff kind of stuff, whether
Speaker 1: it's talking about tarot or aliens or fucking whatever, right,
Speaker 1: like some kind of psychedelic trip past life regression list
Speaker 1: goes on and and they're like, you know, what do
Speaker 1: you think about Christ? And you have you have you
Speaker 1: given it any thought? And I'm like, yeah, I actually
Speaker 1: gave it a lot of thought. And I like I
Speaker 1: went to I went to church on my own accord
Speaker 1: for over a year trying to figure out what the
Speaker 1: hell was really going on with it. And and you
Speaker 1: know what my favorite is is whenever people are like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it one day, one day it's going
Speaker 1: to click, as if I'm incapable of grasping the concept.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get the concept. I understand the concept.
Speaker 1: It's you know. But but of course, if we were
Speaker 1: to say something like that, like hey, dude, one day,
Speaker 1: you're gonna grow out of that. One day, you really are?
Speaker 1: You just gonna get it? It's like they wouldn't talk
Speaker 1: to you anymore if you if you said that, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's funny, but.
Speaker 3: I get it. I just I'm just here waiting for
Speaker 3: it to happen. Really, that's the only reason why I
Speaker 3: do this. I'm just waiting for you to figure it
Speaker 3: out and I could better, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one day I'll just get beamed up. But
Speaker 1: which I kind of hope that does happen, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, beam me up. I'm waiting for the aliens.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: The thing is is that every time we see a UFO,
Speaker 1: they're always too far. I'm like, come a little closer, baby, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get let's get some action going. You know, if
Speaker 1: you got to probe me, I get it. You know,
Speaker 1: if that's the price you gotta pay, that's.
Speaker 3: Just how it's done, dude, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's the price of the ticket. Uh, White
Speaker 1: boy Wizard said, Bro, I'm so burnt out on Christian
Speaker 1: rhetoric growing up Mormon until thirteen, then seeing straight through
Speaker 1: all their bullshit, I'll never trust a religion again. I
Speaker 1: talked to God daily, I met him during my overdose.
Speaker 1: I don't need anyone to have a relationship with Creator
Speaker 1: slash source.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: Very true. Yeah, let's see. Benjamin said, I was born
Speaker 1: and raised Baptist. I see you. I got out when
Speaker 1: I was sixteen. Nice. Uh, Dougie said, born and raised
Speaker 1: and still am Greek Orthodox. Uh. Interesting, Dougie, Greek Orthodox.
Speaker 4: I'm not familiar with the particular traditions of Greek Orthodox.
Speaker 1: Is that a more like stricter one? Doug sounds yeah,
Speaker 1: because what is it? The Russians have some kind of
Speaker 1: Orthodox over there, right? I don't know anyway, Dougie said, Uh,
Speaker 1: he's talking to you, Huffy. He said, I like your
Speaker 1: bandana looks a little bit like a Cretan head scarf.
Speaker 1: It's pretty sick.
Speaker 4: I don't know what a Cretan headscarf is in particular,
Speaker 4: but I'll take it.
Speaker 1: It's one of those where it kind of looks like dreads,
Speaker 1: like you know people used to wear back in the day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tassel turban that's how Huffey's toughy tasseled turbin serpent crown,
Speaker 4: that's what I call it.
Speaker 1: Hell. Yeah, dude, that's sick.
Speaker 4: Very aspired by Like Egyptian and Sumerian had artwork and
Speaker 4: how what they wore and stuff. Hey, they thought they
Speaker 4: were kings. And if it comes from within, you know,
Speaker 4: if if I'm projecting all oneness, then that must make
Speaker 4: me the king of my reality. So I'm gonna wear my.
Speaker 1: Crown may as well. Dude, why not? It looks it
Speaker 1: looks dope. I like it looks comfy too, Actually it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh. The White Boy Wizard said most of the UFOs
Speaker 1: I've seen were orbs. Biggest one I saw was hovering
Speaker 1: over both sides of the freeway defined circular craft. Shit
Speaker 1: was crazy, Jews, imagine seeing that that close to it
Speaker 1: sounds yeah, that's awesome. Go ahead, white boy wizard.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, like I've been seeing the or seven, I
Speaker 5: saw a gnarly one one night after my best friend's
Speaker 5: viewing when he passed away, and like I always told
Speaker 5: my mom and everybody about it, and all they ever
Speaker 5: did was like, you know, poke fun and laugh. Well,
Speaker 5: we were driving through the desert coming back from Portland
Speaker 5: at like three point thirty in the morning, and there's
Speaker 5: these two red dots or the free buff fuck know where,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, what the fuck is that? And as
Speaker 5: we were driving underneath it, the two red dots shut
Speaker 5: off and a huge circle of white ones turned on
Speaker 5: and it was literally wider than both sides of the freeway,
Speaker 5: and from the back seat, my mom was like what
Speaker 5: and I just I just started laughing. Dude, I could
Speaker 5: like I was just like.
Speaker 4: I told you, I fucking told you.
Speaker 5: They were real, and all within that instant, the things
Speaker 5: like shifted and did like a one eighty and then
Speaker 5: just fucking disappeared into the stars. No noise, no nothing, dude,
Speaker 5: And like I just kept laughing. I told her I
Speaker 5: told you. Then I like turned to light on. You
Speaker 5: know who was awake? My ex wife was sitting shotgun
Speaker 5: and my mom and baby sister in the back, and
Speaker 5: I figured they'd all be asleep, but I turned the
Speaker 5: light and they were all just covered in tears, scared
Speaker 5: the out of them. I was like, oh, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 5: I didn't mean.
Speaker 3: To laugh at you. My bad day. I need something
Speaker 3: like that, dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I've seen, you know, little orbs or even maybe their satellites,
Speaker 3: but I have seen things that definitely didn't look like
Speaker 3: a satellite, but never something that just like darts off.
Speaker 3: You know, like, if I see something like that, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent in you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: for sure, the satellites don't just change their their acceleration,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yeah, it's so fucking weird, dude, seeing stuff
Speaker 1: like that, because it really just throws a whole ranch
Speaker 1: into the gears of what you really think is going
Speaker 1: on in this reality, you know what. I think that
Speaker 1: That's why I think that personally, I think that that's
Speaker 1: why the governments of the world has been very hush
Speaker 1: hush secretive on the whole thing, because if you think
Speaker 1: about it, I'm not going to go full on conspiracy
Speaker 1: brain rate here. But if you think about it, government
Speaker 1: and you know, the whole thing about governmente they're governing
Speaker 1: your your mind and controlling your mind and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Right if if they if you looked
Speaker 1: up in the sky and you saw a for sure UFO.
Speaker 1: Most people that you know, they still rely heavily on
Speaker 1: the news, and they still rely heavily on government organizations
Speaker 1: and everything. They're not going to believe it until somebody
Speaker 1: tells them to believe it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: which is kind of a it's a weird spell that
Speaker 1: a lot of people are really under with that and
Speaker 1: it but as soon as the government comes out and
Speaker 1: says it, which there's been a lot of like whistleblower
Speaker 1: kind of things that have been going on lately, and
Speaker 1: at this point, you know, people have kind of just
Speaker 1: lost all faith in the news, you know, which is
Speaker 1: a good thing and kind of a bad thing at
Speaker 1: the same time, because now who do you believe? Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's actually very interesting because you almost got
Speaker 1: to go off of your own intuition, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's really I think where the core of the all
Speaker 1: this truth is there. Could there could absolutely be something
Speaker 1: that something else that is going on out there, And
Speaker 1: if you kind of grew up where you're living in
Speaker 1: a reality where there's only people and there's animals and
Speaker 1: there's insects and nothing else really living, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But then you see a fucking fourth dimensional
Speaker 1: entity just like dropping in from a portal from the
Speaker 1: sky somewhere, You're like, oh, I guess it is kind
Speaker 1: of more of a dream than I thought, because it
Speaker 1: would have to be, you know, for sure, for sure,
Speaker 1: it's just that kind of shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's actually funny. I want to mention before
Speaker 4: I forget Whiteboard Wizard. His story talked about seeing red lights,
Speaker 4: and I just want to say my dad told me
Speaker 4: a story once that he was stuck in traffic on
Speaker 4: the freeway somewhere. It was backed up for hours, and
Speaker 4: he said he got out. I don't know if he
Speaker 4: got out to use the bathroom or something. I don't know.
Speaker 4: He said, when he was outside of the truck, this
Speaker 4: dude came up to him and just started talking about
Speaker 4: UFOs and he said, don't don't trust the red lights.
Speaker 4: All the other lights or something about other lights being okay,
Speaker 4: but don't trust the red ones. So white Boy wizard
Speaker 4: talking about red lights. I just thought that was funny
Speaker 4: little thing I mentioned there.
Speaker 3: I wonder why usually the color red is, like you're
Speaker 3: talking about like the lowest chakra, yeah, vibration of fear.
Speaker 3: You know, anytime there's a bad guy, he's got red
Speaker 3: in somewhere in his clothing or you know, in his eyes.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's cool too because it's just like even thematically,
Speaker 4: like you know, red being the lowest chukker and it's
Speaker 4: like you know, the base, you know, your foundation of
Speaker 4: energy in a way. But it's also cool because red
Speaker 4: is just like the darkest color. I don't know if
Speaker 4: that's true or not, but like if you just turn
Speaker 4: on like your room lights to all the different colors
Speaker 4: that night, it seems like red is just the darkest collar.
Speaker 4: So it's just kind of an interesting little thing there too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, white boy Wizard, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to throw in there too, Like it
Speaker 5: was really weird, like after you know, the after effects,
Speaker 5: like trying to think about the process and all the shit,
Speaker 5: just like what the fuck? That was like one of
Speaker 5: the first times where I, like I ever had the
Speaker 5: thought that I was like, damn, that was one of ours.
Speaker 5: That had to be one of ours, like, and I
Speaker 5: don't know why it came with that incident, but it
Speaker 5: did so pretty weird.
Speaker 3: One of ours meaning like human meat, yes, exactly. Okay,
Speaker 3: the desert.
Speaker 4: I feel like the desert is the prime testing area
Speaker 4: around there. I don't you know, whether it's all human
Speaker 4: or not, who knows, but I definitely think that desert
Speaker 4: area is just so desolate they could just do whatever
Speaker 4: they want. Really.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well there's uh, there's White Sands that they're
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're testing all the missiles and they've
Speaker 1: been testing missiles and a bunch of different kind of
Speaker 1: bombs over in White Sands for like a hundred years
Speaker 1: now at least.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Sean didn't mean to cut off.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say as far as like humans
Speaker 3: making UFOs, like in the government making UFOs, Like, what
Speaker 3: would be the gain in that if they were to
Speaker 3: be doing something like that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: just to manipulate our minds basically, you know, or like
Speaker 3: why would they want us to believe in UFOs?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. I mean I think he can go
Speaker 4: into different reasons because one, like with Bob Bazar if
Speaker 4: he was telling the truth, why would they like in
Speaker 4: the eighties, he was like on the news and stuff
Speaker 4: about it. You know, why would they be putting him
Speaker 4: on the news if that stuff is real and they
Speaker 4: didn't want that information coming out, you know. So on
Speaker 4: that hand, it's like, do they tell the truth because
Speaker 4: they need they you know, they you know, it's just
Speaker 4: I see it as reflections that of us, you know,
Speaker 4: and it's just a reflection showing all different spectrums of
Speaker 4: of ourselves. But yeah, are they telling us because they
Speaker 4: need to tell us the truth and they just let
Speaker 4: it creak out like that? Or or is it also
Speaker 4: complete just part of the narrative? Who knows? Who knows?
Speaker 1: Yeah, once they you know, maybe they start letting it
Speaker 1: out once they got a good control of it or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like it'd be something hard
Speaker 3: for them to even attempt to control though, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, if there be so much more advanced
Speaker 3: at least that's what you would think, right if they
Speaker 3: make it here, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I will say so back in like twenty around
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty is when like I started going
Speaker 4: real because I was always a conspiracy theorist, Like ever
Speaker 4: since uh nine one one. I don't know if I
Speaker 4: can even say that or whatever, but ever since that
Speaker 4: day when I was literally in uh. I was six
Speaker 4: years old when that when that happened, literally singing on
Speaker 4: the TV. There was something in my brain that like
Speaker 4: was like, hey, I don't know, I don't I couldn't
Speaker 4: explain it. You know, I was just a little kid,
Speaker 4: but there was literally something. But I was like, I
Speaker 4: don't know. So that's always a there's already aliens that
Speaker 4: I know they're hiding from me, and now I'm seeing
Speaker 4: this world catastrophe that's supposed to be you know, it
Speaker 4: just didn't something's not adding up. That's what really sent
Speaker 4: me down that path. In twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, I
Speaker 4: started going into a lot of things and uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that time zone definitely opened up a
Speaker 1: lot of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a it's a wave. It's a wave
Speaker 4: of consciousness that that really hits. And even just the
Speaker 4: one that a few months ago where you guys were
Speaker 4: saying that you really took another look at the hermetic
Speaker 4: principles and like it was really starting sink in. I
Speaker 4: think that was just another wave that hit recently as well.
Speaker 1: But yeah, one hundred percent, dude. And I will say
Speaker 1: this too, I look at almost all of the world
Speaker 1: events through a ritualistic lens, so like for sure, and
Speaker 1: nobody can convince me otherwise. Nine to eleven was a
Speaker 1: full on ritualistic ceremony. If you think about it, you know,
Speaker 1: you got the wind towers. I mean, dude, the towers
Speaker 1: stand for you got the pillars, right, especially within freemasonry,
Speaker 1: really within occultism all all around. Yeah, usually you walk
Speaker 1: through the two pillars and that is where you're kind
Speaker 1: of walking into the other side. You're supposed to do
Speaker 1: it kind of ritualistically in your mind, you know, at
Speaker 1: least that's what we learned through this one book called
Speaker 1: The MAGICKI and written by Philip Cooper, one of the
Speaker 1: best magic books of all time. But you you, in
Speaker 1: your mind, whenever you get to this meditation, you are
Speaker 1: supposed to find this doorway that has two pillars, and
Speaker 1: you walk through those two pillars, and once you get
Speaker 1: on the other side, you come up on like a pond,
Speaker 1: and in that pond you you like, you bring your chalice, right,
Speaker 1: You're supposed to have all of your ritualistic tools in
Speaker 1: there with you, you know, your shield and your chalice and
Speaker 1: your sword and whatnot. And you're supposed to take your
Speaker 1: your like metaphysical chalice into that pond and scoop up
Speaker 1: some of the liquid out of there. And it's not
Speaker 1: supposed to be water. It's just supposed to be like
Speaker 1: some of the knowledge that you're scooping up out of it,
Speaker 1: and then you take a fucking sip of it, and
Speaker 1: it's said that you're supposed to. That's how you're you're
Speaker 1: essentially getting some kind of download or an answer that
Speaker 1: you're trying to really search for. Right, And so whenever
Speaker 1: you they they took down the two pillars, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I thought that that was kind
Speaker 1: of crazy. Like it's almost like whenever they took out
Speaker 1: the the Georgia guidestones, It's like, why are you taking
Speaker 1: apart things?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: I just think that it's really strange, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: At the High priesis we just learned, you know, as
Speaker 3: far as like the the two pillars, right, and the
Speaker 3: cloth that's like in the way you can't really see
Speaker 3: the background and beyond that cloth is you know, beyond
Speaker 3: the veil, you know, thet beyond the illusion, and so
Speaker 3: when the pillars came down, nothing's holding that cloth up
Speaker 3: anymore almost, you know what I mean. So maybe that
Speaker 3: was a I don't know, that was our first illusion
Speaker 3: shattering event.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure, Oh dude, And looking into
Speaker 1: the symbolism of the taro. We have been having so
Speaker 1: much fun with that lately. Like it is crazy how
Speaker 1: deep and esoteric it all is. You know, even they'll
Speaker 1: say this just just about with every kind of spiritual
Speaker 1: book out there, like, dude, there's a I can't remember
Speaker 1: what it was, but there's this one kind of esoteric
Speaker 1: thought out there that was I believe it's Jewish thought,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, but that there is four different
Speaker 1: ways to read the Torah, and one of them is
Speaker 1: like surface level all the way down to like the
Speaker 1: most deepest esoteric level of understanding to where you're literally
Speaker 1: reading it like it's a whole different language. And I
Speaker 1: think that a lot of this shit is really written
Speaker 1: in code and it's meant for you know, the proper
Speaker 1: initiation and stuff like that, and it makes a whole
Speaker 1: lot of sense, especially if you think about it, you know,
Speaker 1: most of the world's religions and most of the world's
Speaker 1: scriptures and stuff like that, we're all word of mouth.
Speaker 1: Like they were actually very against writing it down because
Speaker 1: they knew that it could be taken out of context.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like even today, how many times, like
Speaker 1: I don't know if you do you have a like
Speaker 1: a significant other by chance, yes, dude, you reach out
Speaker 1: to you reach out to your person, right, and you
Speaker 1: could say, hey, can you get me some butter on
Speaker 1: your way home from work? They very well could take
Speaker 1: that the entire wrong way, right, And you're just like,
Speaker 1: I just asked for butter. Why are you giving me
Speaker 1: this attitude now?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And it's because we take a lot of shit out
Speaker 1: of context, you know, like especially whenever it's red, you know,
Speaker 1: like something that's written down, you're gonna take it majorly
Speaker 1: out of context. And I think that it's so silly
Speaker 1: that people just absolutely feel in their bones that they
Speaker 1: have the whole thing figured out whenever it's talked to.
Speaker 1: And that's not only just about the Bible or the
Speaker 1: Toro or the Talmut or whatever or whatever book it is.
Speaker 1: You got to think about it. This shit was written
Speaker 1: over two thousand years ago, you know what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 1: around about two thousand years ago for the Bible, but
Speaker 1: like some of the older stuff two three, four thousand
Speaker 1: years ago. Think about how much our lingo has changed
Speaker 1: in the last ten years alone, dude, And we're just
Speaker 1: supposed to sit here and think that, like, ah, we
Speaker 1: get it now. Like that's kind of crazy, you know.
Speaker 1: And my buddy Jacob always likes to bring this one
Speaker 1: up where it's like, you know, one hundred years in
Speaker 1: the future, they're going to look back at some of
Speaker 1: like our old data and stuff like that, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna look at a butt dial and a booty call
Speaker 1: in the same context. Yeah, like two very different things,
Speaker 1: but they sound very similar, right, Definitely, so crazy, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just love looking into that kind of stuff and
Speaker 1: trying to understand it at its deeper kind of esoteric core,
Speaker 1: because I think that I think that that's how it
Speaker 1: was written and that's how we should be taking it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know, I think that it's it's
Speaker 1: very strange too about how it used to be that, uh,
Speaker 1: there were a lot of profits there and a lot
Speaker 1: of people were receiving a lot of downloads back in
Speaker 1: the day, and those people that are doing it nowadays,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, they're just crazy woo woo people, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That being said, I think that
Speaker 1: like anytime somebody gets like a prophecy, a download, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it, I think maybe it's just
Speaker 1: meant for you, you know. Yeah, like maybe that's how
Speaker 1: it always should have been.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that for sure. I especially in
Speaker 4: just the system, the society that we're in. It's kind
Speaker 4: of like you just even if you do tell people,
Speaker 4: even if you post a way a really prophetic dream
Speaker 4: that you had, and I've had many, you know that
Speaker 4: I can deem as prophetic and you know whatever, but
Speaker 4: I haven't posted them. It's because you're almost incentivizing like
Speaker 4: some sort of just gain from it, you know, like
Speaker 4: some sort of just anything from it. So it's it's
Speaker 4: weird with that nowadays. But yeah, old school oracles would
Speaker 4: definitely not be treated as such nowadays. They'd probably be
Speaker 4: sent somewhere. They'd be sent to some sort of home
Speaker 4: somewhere for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeahs values are just different. Values are completely different. And
Speaker 4: that's what we were saying about the the meaning of
Speaker 4: the Bible or just all those religious text their values
Speaker 4: are just so different back in the day, I think,
Speaker 4: so it's just hard to even equate it to now
Speaker 4: because I mean, you know, this is Sumerian. Like I'm
Speaker 4: big into Sumerian stuff. I love Sumerian myth and stuff.
Speaker 4: And like one of their most important gods is Enki
Speaker 4: and he's water, and like you know, just to think
Speaker 4: like water, Yeah, water is life, and you can't have
Speaker 4: water on a planet with or you can't have life
Speaker 4: on a planet without water. You know, you need the
Speaker 4: sun and need water. But to a Samarian, they're out
Speaker 4: there and maybe it's not quite as dry and desert
Speaker 4: as as it is now, but they're out there in
Speaker 4: the desert. You know they ever been. Know every drop
Speaker 4: of water they could get was life to them. So
Speaker 4: like they built this god, uh, this this entire foundation
Speaker 4: of water through this god and like just built him
Speaker 4: up to the pinnacle. He's uniting all humans across the
Speaker 4: world through one language, and he's you know, impregnating the
Speaker 4: earth and he's just like it just shows their value
Speaker 4: of how much they loved water and like the way
Speaker 4: they can personify it and make it into myths and
Speaker 4: stuff it's just magic. It's literally magic. It's a it's
Speaker 4: a spell that they wrote and it's it's an awesome one.
Speaker 4: And it's the same with the Bible, that the Bible
Speaker 4: is an absolute spell because you get taught from an
Speaker 4: early age that it's literal. And you know, even if
Speaker 4: you even if you don't get taught that's literal, it's
Speaker 4: it can still be a spell. Because I've I have
Speaker 4: not read through the whole thing myself, but the parts
Speaker 4: that I've read, and I did read them, I read
Speaker 4: them within like the last uh, like eight months or so.
Speaker 4: Like I read Genesis, and like Genesis is like super
Speaker 4: vivid in my mind what I read of it and
Speaker 4: I had only read at once. You know, it's like
Speaker 4: it's really powerful stuff. It's just how do you how
Speaker 4: do you see it? How do you relate to it
Speaker 4: and equate the words to it?
Speaker 3: Spell? We were just talking about this, uh, and it's
Speaker 3: it's kind of crazy when you think about it, and
Speaker 3: it might ruffle feathers. I don't know, but I mean,
Speaker 3: if you if you look into it, you know, everybody,
Speaker 3: the followers of the Bible are cursed, right like because
Speaker 3: of Adam and Eve and that whole story, and yeah,
Speaker 3: all the lineage after that is the people are cursed,
Speaker 3: you know, and so they're literally cursed within their own reality.
Speaker 3: Isn't that a trip like to think about, like they
Speaker 3: are cursed?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean when Jonathan told me that, I was like, wait,
Speaker 3: it like literally blew my mind because in their reality
Speaker 3: they believe they're cursed. Yeah part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's a man, it's quite the spell
Speaker 1: that that that some people are really under with that,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's where you get like a lot
Speaker 1: of guilt and you know, like it you can tell
Speaker 1: that it's kind of a spell or a curse. Whenever
Speaker 1: you're scared to look up anything that contradicts what your
Speaker 1: belief is, you know, like you almost feel like you're
Speaker 1: you're sinning whenever you even put any weight into any
Speaker 1: other kind of thought.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's just fascinating to really see, dude, one of the
Speaker 1: things you uh, you brought up some Egyptian shit right there,
Speaker 1: and I thought that it was so interesting. I I
Speaker 1: recently saw this video. There's this dude, Matthew Lacroix. He's
Speaker 1: like super deep into a lot of the the Egyptian
Speaker 1: stuff and you know, he goes through all the tablets
Speaker 1: and and all the old scrolls and all that shit, right,
Speaker 1: and uh, he recently just went onto the Danny Jones podcast,
Speaker 1: which shout out, that's like one of my favorite podcasts ever.
Speaker 1: Danny Jones is the fucking man. But he went on
Speaker 1: there and he was talking about like really diving in
Speaker 1: deep into the into the myth of a Dappa, which
Speaker 1: is crazy because I want to say that that is
Speaker 1: where the the whole idea of Adappa, that's where the
Speaker 1: idea of Adam came from, like the first man, right,
Speaker 1: and and it was I believe that Adappa was created
Speaker 1: by the Anonaki, but that there were Annaki that the
Speaker 1: like were around before and after Adoppa was around. And
Speaker 1: the way that he was reading it, he believes that
Speaker 1: Adoppa himself was an Anonaki, and he believes that humans
Speaker 1: are the Anonaki. So that would be kind of a
Speaker 1: fucking weird twist to the story, right, which I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: if it's all one, it's I guess it would be
Speaker 1: us anyway, you.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, uh yeah, go ahead, no, go ahead, Uh yeah,
Speaker 4: I think I definitely think the story and you know,
Speaker 4: when I first started getting to the Innonochi stuff and
Speaker 4: I love it. I love it, but I will say
Speaker 4: that when I first started getting into it, it kind
Speaker 4: of sent me into a spiral where like where I
Speaker 4: did have like this U of Foe kind of extra
Speaker 4: or other world the experience. It's like, dude, the Annaki
Speaker 4: have to be real. They have to be real. That's
Speaker 4: the code, that's the secret code, because almost all religions
Speaker 4: kind of are using the Sumerian template of the Innaki
Speaker 4: in their own religions. Like if you use the and
Speaker 4: Naki camera lens and then you look at the Bible
Speaker 4: through the Anunaki camera lens, it's like, oh, bro, this
Speaker 4: is all just this is all anti and end lil
Speaker 4: wor working against each other. You know, it's essentially what
Speaker 4: it is. Yeah, for sure, the flood, I mean all
Speaker 4: of it. Yeah, and Adam and Adappah for sure. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it's interesting to think that if they are
Speaker 4: real and Anki, so the story says, did use Annaki
Speaker 4: DNA to create humans, you know, with the help of
Speaker 4: ninhers I don't want to give Anky all the credit
Speaker 4: because Ninhersag is the one that actually burnt this out.
Speaker 4: The lady of the of the mountain, but shout out,
Speaker 4: it was both of them together. That's something I respect
Speaker 4: about Sumerian stuff is because it's not just about the
Speaker 4: he creator. It's about the he and the she, you know,
Speaker 4: the both together.
Speaker 1: The divine union.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's right, that's right. So yeah, maybe, you know,
Speaker 4: if we want to think of it that way. And
Speaker 4: I mean even, I think, and I wish I could
Speaker 4: tell you the Hey, this is the story right here,
Speaker 4: but I'm pretty sure anky even, and I don't like
Speaker 4: to really base my perspective on the Zacharia sitch And
Speaker 4: stories because I noticed real quick that like the Lost
Speaker 4: Book of ANKI. I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 4: heard anything about that story or not. It's essentially one
Speaker 4: of the series, one of the books in the series
Speaker 4: that Zacharia Sitchin wrote his interpretation of the tablets. But
Speaker 4: the thing is he didn't even read Sumerian, so he's
Speaker 4: just reading the English translations and then making his own story.
Speaker 4: And hey, that's cool. I used to write fiction stories,
Speaker 4: you know, so like that wondering stuff, that's really cool.
Speaker 4: It's creating its own world doing that. Is that the
Speaker 4: real world?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 4: I can't really sit here and say that like, that's it.
Speaker 1: So could be like some uh, some downloads or some
Speaker 1: automatic writing going on or some maybe maybe it's like
Speaker 1: trance writing, you know. Could? I have no idea. Whenever
Speaker 1: it comes to that kind of stuff, I try to
Speaker 1: keep an open mind. But am I gonna look at
Speaker 1: it like it's absolute historical fact? I don't fucking know, dude.
Speaker 1: It's the same. It's the same thing with the uh,
Speaker 1: the the Emerald Tablets of Thoth written by Maurice Doriol,
Speaker 1: Like fascinating shit. I really felt like I connected on
Speaker 1: a spiritual level to that book, dude. But it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, who are you gonna argue with about it?
Speaker 1: Like what do you are you gonna go up to,
Speaker 1: like you know, somebody at Thanksgiving tomorrow and be like,
Speaker 1: Maurice Doriel fucking had it figured it out, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it's kind of like for you
Speaker 1: kind of thing.
Speaker 3: All of these stories, all of the books, all of
Speaker 3: the ancient tablets that they're all just the story of
Speaker 3: us and I belie eve that we're supposed to take
Speaker 3: what the good and we leave the rest, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like the Bible believe is like super
Speaker 3: cool with slavery. Can't say that's cool. That doesn't vibe
Speaker 3: with me, you know, And so yeah, I feel like
Speaker 3: there's different truths within all of these things, and we're
Speaker 3: supposed to get a little bit out of each one. Possibly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of look at all of them almost
Speaker 1: as if like in each you know, religious or spiritual
Speaker 1: kind of historical book out there, it just look kind
Speaker 1: of like what you were saying, Like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say cherry pick or whatever, but I think that
Speaker 1: our minds are very intricate as to what we like,
Speaker 1: gravitate towards, and what we connect with and what we
Speaker 1: vibe with. You know. I always like to say, like,
Speaker 1: if it vibes, keep it. If it don't, then you know,
Speaker 1: chuck it, right.
Speaker 3: We do that with everything in our daily lives. We
Speaker 3: don't all like the same music. We all cherry pick music.
Speaker 3: We picked the music that vibes with us the best,
Speaker 3: you know. We do that with everything else. But for
Speaker 3: some reason, in the realm of spirit or the realm
Speaker 3: of thought, we're supposed to pick one and that's the
Speaker 3: one and everything else is wrong. And I don't think
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think that like just going with that
Speaker 1: as far as like our minds and our brains and
Speaker 1: our subconscious, our unconscious minds, and our soul, our spirit, well,
Speaker 1: however deep you want to go with it, I think
Speaker 1: that it picks up and it almost resonates with certain
Speaker 1: things on a page whenever you're reading it and there's
Speaker 1: something and maybe you even forget about it, but for
Speaker 1: some reason, it's now like imprinted into the code that
Speaker 1: is our belief. And it's so strange about how that works.
Speaker 1: But I think you read enough, maybe you get there,
Speaker 1: you know, like you start to form some kind of
Speaker 1: foundational belief system within yourself. And that's one thing that
Speaker 1: we figured out. Dude, you got to have some kind
Speaker 1: of foundational belief, like something like some kind of bare minimum. Otherwise, dude,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get lost in the void out there and
Speaker 1: it's dark and it's scary and you don't know how
Speaker 1: to get back, especially whenever you're like, well, I remember
Speaker 1: reading about this, I remember reading that I don't know
Speaker 1: which one I believe, so now I just believe nothing.
Speaker 1: And it's not to say that like everybody should have
Speaker 1: a belief, you know, you know, really try to back
Speaker 1: up your belief so that in your mind. It's not
Speaker 1: just a belief in your mind. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: more concrete.
Speaker 3: And this is why it's important, you know, for us
Speaker 3: to really uh look up and smell the roses and
Speaker 3: really try to experience things like as holistically as possible
Speaker 3: without being distracted by our phone every ten minutes. And
Speaker 3: that I think, you know, and I'm guilty of it too,
Speaker 3: you know, but I've been getting a lot better as
Speaker 3: far as like just putting the phone down and trying
Speaker 3: not to worry about it, you know. But if we're
Speaker 3: constantly looking at the news or constantly looking at Facebook
Speaker 3: or YouTube or name the thing, you know, which is cool,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of good information and when you're actively
Speaker 3: looking for it, it's there. But if you're constantly just
Speaker 3: being consumed and that thing is kind of taking control
Speaker 3: of you, now you're not even you're not even you anymore,
Speaker 3: you know. And so I think if you're out there
Speaker 3: actually trying to have like real authentic experience, that's when
Speaker 3: you're going to see the best version of the truth possible,
Speaker 3: you know, rather than having somebody tell you their truth.
Speaker 3: And so that's kind of where we found ourselves, you know.
Speaker 1: As yeah, I mean, hey, dude, we're still learning, you know,
Speaker 1: we're only we've only been doing this show for a
Speaker 1: little bit over two years now, and I feel like
Speaker 1: in just about every episode there's always a tiny little
Speaker 1: nugget that you almost just take that and build that
Speaker 1: on top of the pyramid of what you think is
Speaker 1: kind of going on, you know, like that's that's at
Speaker 1: least how it goes with us. But uh, but yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: it's it's a fun ride. And I don't plan on
Speaker 1: getting off this ride anytime soon.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, honestly, there's no way to in my opinion,
Speaker 4: And like this might ruffle some feathers too, but there's
Speaker 4: been some spiritual people that have gone deep or you know,
Speaker 4: saying they used to practice witchcraft and stuff and they
Speaker 4: were deep oicultists, and then they go back to uh
Speaker 4: some sort of religion or Christianity, most notably you know.
Speaker 4: But that's just what I see the most.
Speaker 1: I don't trust those people.
Speaker 4: It how how deep are you? That's how I see it,
Speaker 4: because how can you possibly go back to just you know,
Speaker 4: that's just fear at the end of the day, and
Speaker 4: fear is fear is just it, That's that's the that's
Speaker 4: the battle. That's the only battle. In my opinion, it's
Speaker 4: fear versus essentially just love. Those are the only two,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you run into something that is the unknown and
Speaker 3: it's going to cause fear, you know, But how mute that?
Speaker 3: How do you go forward from that and keep pushing,
Speaker 3: you know, running away? It's like there's something there for
Speaker 3: you to learn, and they just chose not to. It's
Speaker 3: like too much.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, do you hear yourself you're covered in
Speaker 1: the blood of Christ? Like, is that not ritualistic? Like
Speaker 1: that sounds kind of sadistic if you really think about it.
Speaker 4: For sure, they drink it too, right, isn't it what
Speaker 4: they imagine?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 1: They like, I've heard stories of people eating the wafers
Speaker 1: and this is crazy, dude, But this has been like
Speaker 1: documented several times. It's one of the craziest fucking things
Speaker 1: you'll ever hear. But there are people that will they
Speaker 1: are convinced, so they'll eat the wafer. And especially like
Speaker 1: in the Catholic Church, they literally believe that that is
Speaker 1: christ flesh and Christ's blood, right, they literally believe it,
Speaker 1: not metaphorically, not ritualistically, not believing in it, like it's
Speaker 1: fucking Santa or the Easter Bunny. I'm talking about, like
Speaker 1: whenever I eat this, I am feeling flesh mushing through
Speaker 1: my teeth. That kind of belief, right, And uh so
Speaker 1: people really believe that shit so much so that somebody,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what would make you want to
Speaker 1: do this, but they some people just really like to
Speaker 1: fucking push the buck. But uh there there was a
Speaker 1: couple of people that decided to go get their feces
Speaker 1: checked for flesh and found actual flesh in their shit
Speaker 1: and supposedly have dated it back to Jesus. I don't
Speaker 1: know how the fuck they would do that, but like,
Speaker 1: it's just extra weird stuff like that. I'm just like, dude,
Speaker 1: come on, like like, I don't know, man, it's it's
Speaker 1: just weird, extra weird. And they say we're the weird
Speaker 1: wo woo ones. You know what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: you don't seem to going to test my shit.
Speaker 3: But anyway, it's not the authority to do that, you know.
Speaker 3: It's the priests that that puts that that body of
Speaker 3: Christ in there, at least as far as I'm aware of,
Speaker 3: you know. And so anytime you have to. You have
Speaker 3: to go to somebody else for some sort of like
Speaker 3: permission or to empower something for you to ingest. It's like,
Speaker 3: come on, dude, like you're missing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, No, noah, uh go ahead, dear all
Speaker 1: that mute button. Sorry everybody's worst enemy. Well, whenever you're ready, Nora,
Speaker 1: you go ahead. But oh you know what, Huffy, we
Speaker 1: pull a tarot card every single episode, my dude, and
Speaker 1: just want to make sure you're cool with that. I normally, like,
Speaker 1: we've tried to make it a habit of asking everybody
Speaker 1: if they're cool with us pulling a tarot card because
Speaker 1: some people think that it's literally the devil and I
Speaker 1: don't think so. So oh, go ahead, Nora, you got it.
Speaker 6: Finally guy, that son of a bitch of a mute.
Speaker 6: But I love the topic y'all are doing tonight. I
Speaker 6: love it when y'all dive deep into stuff like this
Speaker 6: and really nitpick things about, you know, just blanket statement
Speaker 6: monotheistic religions and spiritual practices, and it always makes me
Speaker 6: think of the reason why I personally will never go
Speaker 6: back to a monotheistic religion.
Speaker 7: It's like, by the standards of say, Christianity. One of
Speaker 7: the ten commandments thou shalt not have any other gods
Speaker 7: before me, or you know, if you don't accept Jesus
Speaker 7: Christ into your heart as your lord and savior, you're.
Speaker 1: Going to hell, which was never something that Jesus said.
Speaker 1: Paul said that, by the.
Speaker 7: Way, Yeah, exactly. So by those terms alone, that just
Speaker 7: screws over every other spiritual practice on earth, every other
Speaker 7: culture that has existed thousands of years before and after
Speaker 7: these monotheistic religions were created. So any so they're telling
Speaker 7: us Shamans who say their tribes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's interesting, especially whenever you think about like
Speaker 1: I used to think that that was ridiculous because I
Speaker 1: used to always hold, you know, like Native Americans to
Speaker 1: such a high regard. I always thought that they were
Speaker 1: so fucking cool. Dude. We would go out to we
Speaker 1: would go out to Arizona every summer whenever I was
Speaker 1: a little kid living in Pennsylvania and just going like
Speaker 1: driving past the reservations, and you know, then you see
Speaker 1: like the Natives on movies and shit, You're like, man,
Speaker 1: they are so awesome, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: I just always thought it was so sick and like
Speaker 1: people just looking at them like like they're going to
Speaker 1: hell and they don't got it figured out. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: they're fucking closer to whatever is going on than than
Speaker 1: anybody else.
Speaker 4: I think, closer to the Earth for sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like for them literally not even knowing who
Speaker 8: Jesus of Nazareth was, who God from the Bible was,
Speaker 8: They're just automatically going.
Speaker 3: To hell unless you just don't tell them. You know,
Speaker 3: I didn't know them. Now they have to convert else,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a it's a wild, wild place
Speaker 1: that we live in, and I feel like a lot, dude,
Speaker 1: people are getting very very extreme with it, just to
Speaker 1: say the least. But look, I do have a Tarot
Speaker 1: card and I was shuffling there for a second, sewn
Speaker 1: I I pulled a card because I I wasn't sure
Speaker 1: if you got your deck back, but uh, just so
Speaker 1: happened to pull my favorite card out of the entire deck,
Speaker 1: and that is the hanged Man. Dude. This is a
Speaker 1: card I plan on getting a tattooed on on myself
Speaker 1: probably maybe in a month, Sean, I would think I
Speaker 1: come out, come back out to Arizona. Sean's gonna ink
Speaker 1: me up out there. But uh, but yeah, dude, we
Speaker 1: got the hanged Man card and it is all about
Speaker 1: surrender and this card like surrender and don't worry, dude,
Speaker 1: it's all gonna work out. But we're gonna read from
Speaker 1: the book anyway, because it's more fun. It's a little
Speaker 1: bit more the hang Man. When you are suspended upside down,
Speaker 1: there is time to reflect and see things from a
Speaker 1: new perspective. The Hangman offers the unusual gift of suspended time.
Speaker 1: His presence is associated with the time period that is
Speaker 1: meant to help shift your perception of a situation. The
Speaker 1: Hangman is suspended by one leg upside down from the
Speaker 1: tree of life. His hand appears to be tied behind
Speaker 1: his back. His free leg is crossed behind the bound
Speaker 1: leg and appears relaxed and resting. He has nowhere to go,
Speaker 1: so he is able to sit quietly in reflection, which
Speaker 1: shows on his face. He is calm, almost pensive, rather
Speaker 1: than distressed, the yellow illumination around his head suggesting spiritual
Speaker 1: enlightenment is occurring during this time of pause. This is
Speaker 1: a time to surrender, not struggle, so solid the spiritual
Speaker 1: message it says unexpected moments of pause can lead to
Speaker 1: new spiritual insights. Gaining a new perspective on your situation
Speaker 1: helps you expand your beliefs. Take time to reflect and
Speaker 1: surrender to the present moment as full as you can.
Speaker 1: Let's go, baby.
Speaker 3: Oh perfect, man, that's the space between the notes, man,
Speaker 3: that's the looking up and smelling the roses, you know.
Speaker 3: And and it's perfect because we can get really wrapped
Speaker 3: up in our own mind our minds are they can
Speaker 3: they could really work against us at times. And I
Speaker 3: think that we have definitely all experienced that. And so
Speaker 3: just the symbolism of that, of the of the hanged man,
Speaker 3: like we're responsible for that. We can allow that to
Speaker 3: continue to scare us, or we can just kind of
Speaker 3: just chill out for a minute, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: and just experience life for a little bit without having
Speaker 3: to constantly contemplate and put everything through a particular filter,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm never gonna be mad at a at a
Speaker 1: hanged man card reading dude, it's just always smacks. Dougy
Speaker 1: Blumpkin said, Uh, look a UFO, let me get my
Speaker 1: worst quality camera.
Speaker 3: That's right. I used to get so mad when I'd
Speaker 3: be watching a video and then they'd be recording it
Speaker 3: and it's like this awesome looking thing and then the
Speaker 3: video just ends like they didn't like record it until
Speaker 3: it took off. Yeah, there's no closure.
Speaker 4: It's like you just enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was not they just stopped recording. I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, it's.
Speaker 1: Like Bigfoot, dude, they're always blurry. Yeah, Benjamin said, I
Speaker 1: was aware of a lot of a lot of it,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know some of the finer details. Uh
Speaker 1: what was that in regards to oh, I think about
Speaker 1: the the UFO kind of stuff. Let's see, White Boar
Speaker 1: Wizard said, anarchy for the win, Please Lord grant me
Speaker 1: this one wish? Fuck the government? Uh been practicing to
Speaker 1: be a post Apocago posts apocalyptic war lord for thirty
Speaker 1: nine years.
Speaker 4: Oh right, it could potentially be a booming business.
Speaker 3: For a long time. Yeah, that's true, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Taylor said, that makes sense about hate, Uh it being fear? Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: that really resonated big time. It's it's the unknown, you know.
Speaker 1: And what's funny is and only because you know, I'm
Speaker 1: watching the new season of Stranger Things just came out,
Speaker 1: so I watched like one of the one and a
Speaker 1: half episodes before this show tonight because it didn't drop
Speaker 1: until like seven pm, so I was able to get
Speaker 1: a little bit in there, and I was watching it,
Speaker 1: and you know, I was doing like a little recap
Speaker 1: of the final season all day today, so like I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just ready for it. And uh, in
Speaker 1: the fourth season, they were coming after Eddie Munson real
Speaker 1: hard because he was a part of a satanic cult
Speaker 1: called the hell Fire Club, and right, all these things,
Speaker 1: it's like, you just don't know what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's fearing the unknown. Yeah, exact, Dougie said,
Speaker 1: Sean and wrong rhyme that, uh what you talking about?
Speaker 1: Red is a low chakra? Red is uh that's the
Speaker 1: the root chakra. Yeah, yeah, ducky, you need to get
Speaker 1: caught up on your chakras. Their home slice love you, though,
Speaker 1: White Boy Wizard said much love, peeps. I gotta run
Speaker 1: all right, White Boy Wizard, love you, dude. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Nora said, what's up, y'all. Hope everybody has a blessed
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving tomorrow. Yeah, it's gonna be a fun one. I'm
Speaker 1: really looking forward to that. I'm gonna I'm planning on
Speaker 1: taking a couple.
Speaker 3: Naps actually, brow down for sure, definitely.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The pumpkin pie is gonna get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the pie and then I even know it yet.
Speaker 1: Benjamin said, I believe Jesus was a wizard, to be honest.
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you explain walking on water? But
Speaker 1: Harry Potter is evil? Lol. The Baptist the Baptist church
Speaker 1: I went to as a kid, actually protested those movies
Speaker 1: at the theater. Yeah, they did that a lot, I
Speaker 1: think everywhere. Actually.
Speaker 3: Wow, even Pokemon was like one of those things that
Speaker 3: they were like totally against to like Pokemoneah Pocket demons. Dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what Benjamin, you know, same thing. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just false. Id I guess all. You know, it's
Speaker 1: probably demonic, you know, you know it would be interesting.
Speaker 1: Is a tarot deck full of nothing but like like
Speaker 1: biblical characters. Imagine that.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, make make Mary like the high priestess or
Speaker 1: some shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, target audience too, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Get everybody involved. There's a lot of Christian mystics walking
Speaker 1: around these days. I'm kind of like, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: digging it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's dude.
Speaker 1: We we actually looked into Rosicrucianism not too long ago,
Speaker 1: and there's something really awesome about Rosicrucians that, you know,
Speaker 1: they say it's like a Christian mystic kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But then there's other Rosicrucians that are like, no, this
Speaker 1: actually predates Christianity, so I don't really know what the
Speaker 1: truth is behind it. But even Cobblism is like a
Speaker 1: that's a Jewish thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never heard of rosa Christians, but uh yeah,
Speaker 4: Cobbalistic stuff, that's for sure, Hebrew stuff I us that
Speaker 4: would be Jewish or you know, the ruse of Judaism
Speaker 4: I would assume, right, But yeah, yeah, looking into that
Speaker 4: stuff lately, it's it's pretty cool. Uh, just the idea
Speaker 4: of the descent down the tree, you know, and I
Speaker 4: don't know all the terms, you know, I don't know
Speaker 4: all the energy centers and the sepharath that that, you know,
Speaker 4: each thing of the tree is, but just the idea
Speaker 4: of being casted down that tree at those energy portals
Speaker 4: and then the idea of having to go back up them.
Speaker 4: You know, your job is now work your way back
Speaker 4: up each individual rung on that ladder I just think
Speaker 4: it's really cool. I saw it recently being called like
Speaker 4: the Serpent's path up, and that's just cool because that
Speaker 4: also mirrors Chakras, you know, being the Kundalini going up,
Speaker 4: you know those the Chokra portals or the Chalkas centers.
Speaker 4: Very cool. And then it just makes me because I've
Speaker 4: always just had a lens of like not liking Christianity stuff,
Speaker 4: like just instantly like, oh, get that out of my face.
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear nothing about it. Get it
Speaker 4: out of my face.
Speaker 1: But that's because you have Satan inside of you, sir,
Speaker 1: He's controlling it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the demons that I got just flying around me.
Speaker 4: But going back though and looking at like the Bible,
Speaker 4: even from like a source point of view like Source
Speaker 4: and then eating the apple is just like a necessary
Speaker 4: step in ascension because Source must step down from the
Speaker 4: childlike bliss of just creation, you know, just the the
Speaker 4: source energy must shrink itself down into the good and
Speaker 4: evil duality of nature in order to then realize it
Speaker 4: has to you know, work. No, I won't even say
Speaker 4: work its way back up because that just you know,
Speaker 4: it implies there's a set structure and stuff, you know,
Speaker 4: all that stuff, and you could say out of work
Speaker 4: and you know, the stuff like that, overcoming your traumas
Speaker 4: and changing your belief systems. But like overall, it's just
Speaker 4: the realization that you are you are God. You know,
Speaker 4: it is you. It's just you were just a part
Speaker 4: of the flow of awareness. You know. That's just how
Speaker 4: I've been seeing it. So, uh, it's just really cool
Speaker 4: because the snake isn't evil you know in the story
Speaker 4: if you look at it from that perspective, and yeah.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. Well, especially within the ship. What
Speaker 1: is the name of the book that I'm thinking of,
Speaker 1: Sean Lost Gospel of Q Lost Gospel of Q. The Yeah,
Speaker 1: you pulled that one right out there, But those are
Speaker 1: the lost sayings of Jesus. That's not necessarily the one
Speaker 1: that I'm referring to. I'm talking about the Nagamati. The
Speaker 1: Nagamati with with all of the you know, uh, heretical
Speaker 1: biblical texts and stuff like that, with the Book of
Speaker 1: Thomas and Mary Magdalene and stuff like that. And you
Speaker 1: start going into that that whole u the Garden of
Speaker 1: Eden's story in there, dude, it is completely flip the
Speaker 1: script all the way around.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: They believe that the snake was Jesus, which is kind
Speaker 1: of crazy because it's it's the knowledge of all good
Speaker 1: and evil, you know, like the snake is tempting Eve,
Speaker 1: and then Eve inevitably, like I guess, convinces Adam and
Speaker 1: And it's kind of crazy if you really look at
Speaker 1: it like that, because why would if you think about it,
Speaker 1: why would a god create everybody and want to keep
Speaker 1: everybody ignorant and worshiping him? You know, you would. I
Speaker 1: feel like if you really wanted humanity in your creation
Speaker 1: to prosper, you would want them to know like what
Speaker 1: is good, what is evil? And you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I just think that that's kind of silly, you know,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know.
Speaker 3: And to curse them for taking a bite of the knowledge,
Speaker 3: right knowledge before that, then they wouldn't have known better
Speaker 3: that doing something that he told them not to do
Speaker 3: was even wrong in the first place. It's like almost
Speaker 3: like it was just set in stone that they were
Speaker 3: going to be doomed no matter what, because he chose
Speaker 3: that it was.
Speaker 1: It was predestined if you really think about it, because
Speaker 1: if God is supposed to be the Alpha and the Omega.
Speaker 1: Then he would have absolutely known that out of an
Speaker 1: Eve would have been tempted by the apple, which then
Speaker 1: would mean that he knew that he was going to,
Speaker 1: you know, basically like spank them. And you know what
Speaker 1: it's like, Well, now now every time Eve, every time
Speaker 1: a woman is going through any kind of childbirth, I
Speaker 1: want them to think back to your original sin, like
Speaker 1: I want them to. I want you to feel pain.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be agonizing. I want some women to
Speaker 1: actually die from it because it's it's all because of
Speaker 1: your original sin. And it's like, man, if we if
Speaker 1: we are looking at God as if he is outside
Speaker 1: of time, then that means that whenever he wrote the story,
Speaker 1: he already knew that that was going to happen. He
Speaker 1: already knew the punishments were gonna come, and he already
Speaker 1: knew that eventually some people would be unfortunately sent to
Speaker 1: Hell for all damnation. And you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 3: He created the punishments, he already knew what the punishment
Speaker 3: was going to be. It's like huh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at that point, I don't know, but yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why you know, I this is why you kind of
Speaker 1: got a think outside the box from time to time,
Speaker 1: and that's what we like to do over here. And
Speaker 1: we're not judging anybody for believing what they believe. Everybody
Speaker 1: is on their own path, and you know, you're eventually
Speaker 1: going to find your right way. Maybe you already found
Speaker 1: your right way. You're just trying to really sharpen that tool.
Speaker 1: Everybody has their own way, So yeah, there's that. But anyway, look, Huffy,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming to hang out with us. Dude,
Speaker 1: this was a fun conversation. Really had no idea where
Speaker 1: it was going to go, but I thought that it
Speaker 1: was very fun to have kind of like an open
Speaker 1: ended conversation. That's what we really like to do, especially
Speaker 1: whene we're having somebody on for the very first time,
Speaker 1: is really just try and get to know you a
Speaker 1: little bit. We didn't even get to talk about your music,
Speaker 1: but I was listening to it a little bit earlier
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, these lyrics are fucking on fire.
Speaker 8: Dude.
Speaker 3: I love it. What you know, let the one know
Speaker 3: where to find your music might get cernered.
Speaker 4: Hey, I appreciate that. First of all, I just make it.
Speaker 4: You know, it'd be easy to say that I'm just
Speaker 4: making spiritual rap to try to like cash in on
Speaker 4: some sort of open market and being like I'm rapping
Speaker 4: about the crystals I'm wearing. I'm rapping, you know. It's
Speaker 4: like it's not about that. It's it's really just an
Speaker 4: expression of the self, because that's what we're here to do,
Speaker 4: is just express ourselves in some fashion, you know, And
Speaker 4: so that's just that. So it's spiritual rap, but it's
Speaker 4: just not you know, it might not be what you expect,
Speaker 4: so I appreciate you saying that. And yeah, I got
Speaker 4: you know, Spotify. It's just Huffy, Instagram, Huffy two two seven, TikTok,
Speaker 4: Huffy two two seven, and yeah, it's all linked. It's
Speaker 4: all this own little world there, so if you find
Speaker 4: one of them, you'll find it all.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, Well look, we're gonna have all those
Speaker 1: links down in the show notes for anybody that wants
Speaker 1: to go and check you out. And we would love
Speaker 1: to do it again. Man, you seem like a really
Speaker 1: chill dude. I love all the content that you're putting
Speaker 1: out on social media and uh really vibe with you,
Speaker 1: my dude, So would love to do it again.
Speaker 4: First podcast and it was a pleasure and I had
Speaker 4: a lot of fun, So I'd be one percent down
Speaker 4: to do it again.
Speaker 3: Awesome. We'll be happy to have you back anytime, man,
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Sean, you guys, Thank you dude, Shawn. Any
Speaker 1: parting words for you, sir?
Speaker 3: Oh man, it was just a great conversation, dude. And
Speaker 3: as far as like you being worried about people thinking
Speaker 3: like always just trying to cash in on his music,
Speaker 3: like no, Like, there's another guy we listened to is Uh.
Speaker 3: We've had him on the show several times. Actually his
Speaker 3: name is Optimistic Banks. If you haven't heard his music,
Speaker 3: I suggest to go check it out because there's so
Speaker 3: much in the music, and I'm sure in your music
Speaker 3: as well. There's so many little things that people are
Speaker 3: gonna listen to and maybe the first time they hear it,
Speaker 3: they might not even get it yet because they're on
Speaker 3: that part of the journey. And so then they get
Speaker 3: to this other you know, later on in their journey,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, they'll listen to that same
Speaker 3: song and they'll really get something that you know, you
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have gotten if you would have just told them.
Speaker 3: And so I really appreciate you making that music, man,
Speaker 3: because I feel like music is just so fucking awesome,
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to just you know, when you're
Speaker 3: really going through some shit, you know, and we all
Speaker 3: seem to be going through it from time to time.
Speaker 3: And so keep doing your music, dude, and thank you
Speaker 3: so much for joining us on this episode.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 1: It's a universal language, dude, you know it.
Speaker 4: Is, hey, and what's funny? So I don't want to
Speaker 4: run your time too long. But you say earlier Jesus
Speaker 4: was the serpent. Well, Jesus, I've been making a couple
Speaker 4: of videos in this lately. That's not to plug those videos,
Speaker 4: but I've been making I've been saying that Jesus is
Speaker 4: inky and Jesus or Inky is the serpent in the garden.
Speaker 4: So Inky versus they you know, Yahweh is or inky
Speaker 4: versus in Lil. Yahweh is in Lil the controlling, dominating force,
Speaker 4: and also in Lil is the god of air, and
Speaker 4: air is communication, so communication is also writing. So he's
Speaker 4: the god of writing. Is that a coincidence that he
Speaker 4: would be the god of the Bible?
Speaker 1: Pretty cool, damn.
Speaker 4: So I've never heard that theory that there's actually a
Speaker 4: branch out there that says that Jesus is the snake.
Speaker 4: That's really cool, and I believe that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's absolutely something to it, dude. And
Speaker 1: even if it's not true, it's one of those things like,
Speaker 1: how are we ever going to absolutely know for a
Speaker 1: one hundred percent fact that any of this is true?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you're talking about history
Speaker 1: of two thousand plus years ago. I don't trust the
Speaker 1: history books that we had in middle school and in
Speaker 1: high school, let alone books from two thousand years ago,
Speaker 1: written in several different languages, couple of them dead languages,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's just I don't know. Got to
Speaker 1: have a mind for your own, open up your third
Speaker 1: eye and be kind of just pave your own path.
Speaker 1: You know, you ain't got to go with the flow.
Speaker 1: You're an individual. If somebody wants you to live their life,
Speaker 1: let them live theirs.
Speaker 3: You live yours.
Speaker 4: Also.
Speaker 1: Look, I do want to say, if anybody wants to
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Speaker 1: every Wednesday night at nine pm Central. We're always trying
Speaker 1: to get some awesome guests on. Maybe it's just a
Speaker 1: cool topic. I don't even know what is going on
Speaker 1: next week, but we'll check it out. It's we have
Speaker 1: a full schedule here coming up. It's gonna be really fun.
Speaker 1: So we really appreciate everybody coming to hang out with us.
Speaker 1: And yeah, look, I think we're gonna get over to
Speaker 1: that meditation here in just a moment. But if Huffy
Speaker 1: came in and he taught you anything, it's that you
Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know, So don't just get
Speaker 1: weird thing weird solid.
Speaker 3: Thanks man, Thanks for the recommendation.
Speaker 4: Oh that's that's it sounds peaceful, oh man smooth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And you know we don't we don't meditate
Speaker 1: enough on three ninety six. I feel like that might
Speaker 1: have been the first time actually we've we've touched on
Speaker 1: three ninety six.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I forget the actual like meaning behind that one,
Speaker 4: but dang, I will tell you that. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I've ever heard I've been listening to that one
Speaker 4: for years as I sleep at night, but I don't
Speaker 4: wear headphones. That might have been the first time I
Speaker 4: heard this one through headphones, and I was definitely floating
Speaker 4: a little bit. I will say, ellye, for sure.
Speaker 1: It says three her ninety six. Hurts is a solfeggio
Speaker 1: frequency associated with liberating the mind from guilt and fear.
Speaker 1: It is believed to help clear subconscious blocks and negative beliefs,
Speaker 1: leading to a feeling of emotional liberation, peace, and connection
Speaker 1: to the root chakra. While its effects are rooted in
Speaker 1: spiritual and alternative healing practices, the frequency is used in
Speaker 1: meditation and relaxation music for emotional cleansing and a sense
Speaker 1: of calm.
Speaker 3: Good shit. I was thinking too listening to that, because
Speaker 3: there's that deeper tones. It's like you know, and it
Speaker 3: kind of kind of to me it felt like this
Speaker 3: almost looming thing or like this power. I'm not really
Speaker 3: sure how to describe it, but then there's that little
Speaker 3: like the chimes. Yeah, the other hand, there's the chimes
Speaker 3: that continue to and it's almost like, yeah, there's all
Speaker 3: this like looming or there's all this energy and power,
Speaker 3: but then there's also this like there almost like remind
Speaker 3: yourself you could still be playful. There's still like that,
Speaker 3: a little creative mindset that's always going as well, you know,
Speaker 3: if you if you put your attention to it. And
Speaker 3: another thing I was thinking about in there, as far
Speaker 3: as you know, just the how we came about, you know,
Speaker 3: doing that particular meditation. You know, you're just you know
Speaker 3: how if you're you're just kind of experiencing your own
Speaker 3: journey and meditating so much so to the point where
Speaker 3: you have a favorite meditation, which a lot of people
Speaker 3: come on here they're like, yeah, I kind of just
Speaker 3: meditate in silence, which is totally fine. There's definitely benefit
Speaker 3: to that, but just how powerful it is as far
Speaker 3: as you know, you Okay, going back to Optimistic Banks,
Speaker 3: there's a song that he does, and in the song
Speaker 3: he says, if you can think it in your mind,
Speaker 3: you can hold it in your hand, you know, and
Speaker 3: just the the understanding of you know, we were talking
Speaker 3: earlier as far as the universe being mental and your
Speaker 3: your thoughts controlling your reality, and so you having a
Speaker 3: favorite meditation, right, and then you suggest it to us,
Speaker 3: and now everybody on our meditation our patreon is going
Speaker 3: to meditate to your favorite meditate, like you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. And so like that all came from your
Speaker 3: mind and yeah, kind of rippled that out into reality.
Speaker 1: That's a fun way of looking at it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very interesting.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, man, Yeah, thanks for bringing it up.
Speaker 4: I will say that recently, you know, a few months ago,
Speaker 4: I just kind of really turned a corner and like
Speaker 4: really understanding that like all is coming from one source
Speaker 4: and stuff. And like, once that happened, kind of my
Speaker 4: social media. I've been posted on social media since twenty
Speaker 4: twenty and most you know, a lot of it's been
Speaker 4: music and stuff, but I've also been posting a lot
Speaker 4: of speaking videos in there for that time as well.
Speaker 4: But literally, as soon as I turned this corner in
Speaker 4: my mind that like this opposition that I built up
Speaker 4: with the government has been such like this big thing
Speaker 4: in my mind and like, hey, it's me too, and
Speaker 4: like when it really hit me, and it's like that
Speaker 4: just eliminated so much space that was being taken up
Speaker 4: with that fear, you know, and uh, it just opened
Speaker 4: up so much. It's it's incredible.
Speaker 3: Tyroll card, you know, and it's like, oh, you can
Speaker 3: just release yourself from that realizing that it's just you anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, I've been living that that card lately too.
Speaker 4: It's so funny you pulled that because, I mean, this
Speaker 4: journey I've been on, I've kind of purposely uh not
Speaker 4: had a job that's secure in the last like five years,
Speaker 4: I've gone a kind of alternative route to not have
Speaker 4: a boss. I just kind of I deliver groceries on
Speaker 4: the side. That's like how I get my pay my
Speaker 4: bills and stuff. You know. I don't have a boss,
Speaker 4: no schedule or nothing. I just wake up every morning
Speaker 4: and do it. But lately it's been really down, and
Speaker 4: you know, it is what it is. I'm not sitting
Speaker 4: here crying about it. But uh, it's just like I
Speaker 4: just think of Abraham and Jesus are in Genesis a lot,
Speaker 4: because like he just kind of had every obstacle pointing
Speaker 4: against him, saying, don't do what your intuition is telling
Speaker 4: you to go do you know, It's like everything is
Speaker 4: beating it against it. It's like I gotta keep doing it.
Speaker 4: And I've just been on this journey for so long
Speaker 4: and lately, right when the orders started low dipping low,
Speaker 4: and like I'm not you know, it's not super secure
Speaker 4: right now, all of a sudden, my social media is
Speaker 4: that I've been posting on for so many years, like slow,
Speaker 4: like they finally kind of started clicking a little bit,
Speaker 4: you know, and like that that that ripple that you mentioned,
Speaker 4: like kind of started happening a little bit more so
Speaker 4: it like it just showed me really that it really
Speaker 4: is all just the limitations that are within your mind
Speaker 4: that you build up, you know, and like once you
Speaker 4: can break through another one of those little false layers,
Speaker 4: one of those false identiti these that you brought up,
Speaker 4: you know it you just puncture that little balloon and
Speaker 4: then it just that space that that balloon was taken up,
Speaker 4: It just takes it just deflays, and then you can
Speaker 4: just do you know, it just brings in more yeah, opportunity. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it creates space.
Speaker 1: For more abundance. Yeah, dude, you know it's so funny
Speaker 1: too that uh it was about five years ago, well
Speaker 1: a little bit more than five years ago. I uh,
Speaker 1: I was working a regular job, and dude, I fucking
Speaker 1: hated it. I mean, I like because I was a boss,
Speaker 1: but I had a boss above me, right, And I
Speaker 1: was a I was a front of house manager for
Speaker 1: a restaurant and on huh it was called Rutolo's Pizzeria.
Speaker 1: It's like a I I still love that place a
Speaker 1: lot of great memories. I worked there for like three
Speaker 1: or four years, and and I loved it. You know.
Speaker 1: I love being in charge of ordering the liquor and
Speaker 1: the beer and and testing it and and talking to
Speaker 1: everybody up front and training everybody and creating schedules and
Speaker 1: I'm I love all that all that paperwork ship Like,
Speaker 1: I just love that part of it too. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, like the the the p and ls and
Speaker 1: all that shit, right and and but I kept on
Speaker 1: button heads with my boss because he was like trying
Speaker 1: to tell me how I should be training the people
Speaker 1: that I'm like, I'm training to do a job that
Speaker 1: like I'm going to be around them like I want
Speaker 1: them to kind of do it my way. Because I've
Speaker 1: been working there long enough, I figured out like a
Speaker 1: pretty easy way of memorizing the menu, and I, you know,
Speaker 1: just like fun little things and and it was just
Speaker 1: a lot of head button and I just got fucking
Speaker 1: so tired of it one day and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just going to figure out a
Speaker 1: new path. And and and whenever I decided to just
Speaker 1: throw my hands up, I started the my Conspiracy podcast,
Speaker 1: and and it was it was really just something that
Speaker 1: I was just gonna be doing kind of as a hobby.
Speaker 1: Never thought that I'd ever make anything of it. I
Speaker 1: mean didn't think that I wouldn't make anything from it,
Speaker 1: but I just wasn't really thinking about it. You know.
Speaker 1: It was just gonna be something to where I can
Speaker 1: talk about fun topics. Right, And in that time, because
Speaker 1: I was really focusing on the podcast, I was also
Speaker 1: going to like real estate school and shit like that too.
Speaker 1: But in that time, I was delivering for like basically
Speaker 1: uber eats. Right, they have one in Louisiana. It's called
Speaker 1: Waiter and then it got turned into some other shit.
Speaker 1: But anyway, but I was like so headstrong that like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to make it on my own. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna work for another goddamn boss that's gonna tell me
Speaker 1: that I'm doing another job wrong. I'm not gonna as
Speaker 1: Sean likes to say, go to go clock in to
Speaker 1: make somebody else's dream come true, you know, like forget
Speaker 1: all that shit. And and so I resonate with what
Speaker 1: you're saying, like you know, you're over there, like it
Speaker 1: feels like a bullshit job, but it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: a bullshit job. It's something just to keep your head
Speaker 1: above water until what you're trying to manifest actually comes.
Speaker 1: And I believe that it will.
Speaker 4: Dude, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, keep doing it. Man. As far as those
Speaker 3: videos where it's just you talking, you know, I just
Speaker 3: keep doing those because those are some of my favorites,
Speaker 3: you know, And it could be anybody and it could
Speaker 3: be the wildest experience that they had or just some epiphany.
Speaker 3: And like anytime I see someone just talking to the
Speaker 3: camera about something like that, I watch it because I
Speaker 3: want everyone's perspective, like many you can get because I
Speaker 3: feel like that's just the reality of the situation is
Speaker 3: that it's so abundantly possible. Everything's possible, you know, So
Speaker 3: I want to see it from as many angles as possible.
Speaker 3: So just keep doing what you're doing, man, and I
Speaker 3: know that that it'll bring you success.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude. And I will just say, like, dude,
Speaker 1: all it is is drive and consistency, Like those are
Speaker 1: the two most important things. Is can you can you
Speaker 1: wake up and do it even on days you don't
Speaker 1: feel like doing it? And and whenever you're doing it,
Speaker 1: make sure that you're like, actually you show that you care.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like people people feel that
Speaker 1: even if it's through like a black mirror on your phone,
Speaker 1: if you're kind of just doing it to do it,
Speaker 1: it's not going to resonate with anybody. It has to
Speaker 1: be something that you're passionate about. And if it is,
Speaker 1: I think that it works every time. Personally, I agree.
Speaker 4: I agree. And if you if you've seen it in
Speaker 4: the mind, then it just takes time to come in,
Speaker 4: you know. And the bigger it is the longer it takes.
Speaker 4: That's what I say. And just you guys were talking
Speaker 4: about earlier at the beginning that you kind of have
Speaker 4: like a template that you fall back on kind of
Speaker 4: to keep yourself you know, and get locked into that mentality.
Speaker 4: And the one the one thing that I just always
Speaker 4: think to myself is everything that's happening is just happening
Speaker 4: for me. You know. That's the only thing that I
Speaker 4: just like always can fall back on. It's like, even
Speaker 4: if it sucks right now, I got negative fifty bucks
Speaker 4: in my account, I got another bill coming up. You know,
Speaker 4: it's like it's it's only happening for me because it's
Speaker 4: it couldn't be happening if it could crush and kill me,
Speaker 4: you know. It just that's not what I.
Speaker 3: Believe, definitely, dude. And if nothing else in this moment,
Speaker 3: it's giving you that experience of being the guy that's
Speaker 3: negative fifty dollars, and you know what that's like, So
Speaker 3: that when you do rise up and come you know what,
Speaker 3: where you're striving for and you're talking to somebody else
Speaker 3: and they're like man, you know, and they start getting
Speaker 3: down on themselves because they're negative fifty bucks, now you
Speaker 3: have that extra layer of like I can resonate with
Speaker 3: that I've been, you know, and so it definitely is
Speaker 3: working for you, and is a.
Speaker 1: Thing that I'll always try and bring myself back to
Speaker 1: is to apply that to literally every second of my life.
Speaker 1: You know, like it's easy to to say, oh, this
Speaker 1: is happening for me, from time to time whenever you
Speaker 1: feel like it. But if you can apply it to
Speaker 1: literally every instance of your life, dude, that's whenever the
Speaker 1: whole game starts to really change, the fucking matrix starts
Speaker 1: to shift, because now you're understanding how the game is played.
Speaker 1: You no longer getting you know, like caught up and
Speaker 1: stumbling across the dumbest little shit that is inevitably going
Speaker 1: to cause a domino effect for the rest of your day,
Speaker 1: your day or the rest of your week or anything
Speaker 1: like that. You catch it right before it starts to
Speaker 1: you know, like kind of light the rest of the
Speaker 1: forest on fire.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: It's all the side missions along the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the road rage. That's my side mission. Mine
Speaker 4: is I do not like to drive, and I definitely
Speaker 4: don't like to drive if there's other vehicles around my car,
Speaker 4: that's for sure. Other people that are also you, you
Speaker 4: know what, a lot of reflections out there.
Speaker 1: Dude, especially you being up there in the north on them.
Speaker 1: Is it snowing out there in West Virginia right now?
Speaker 4: Not yet, we have We've had one snow thus far.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it doesn't help. West Virginia has a lot
Speaker 4: of roadwork. They just they just keep roadwork everywhere. I
Speaker 4: don't know if that's what it is else, but but yeah,
Speaker 4: hey it must just be the same everywhere. Yeah, everyone's standing.
Speaker 4: No one's actually got anything done.
Speaker 3: Dude, think it's people watching, you know, like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: That's that's something too. There's just kind of a lot
Speaker 4: of people staring at one dude working.
Speaker 3: Kind of pulled off, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: the one that knows how to do shit.
Speaker 4: I kind of think that it's just a front, if
Speaker 4: we're taking it real literal. I just think it's a
Speaker 4: way for them to take money, the government to take money,
Speaker 4: oh hundred, Like, hey go out there. You know, we
Speaker 4: got a manhole to go drill around and take twenty
Speaker 4: dudes out there, will go pay him.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, my dad is a U. He's like the
Speaker 1: Osha safety guy. Okay, he's like the most hated person
Speaker 1: everywhere he goes whenever he's working. And it's like because
Speaker 1: he's always holding up the job and people are trying
Speaker 1: to to, you know, climb up scaffolding without some kind
Speaker 1: of brace or something like that.
Speaker 3: But everybody starts putting their harnesses on and shit like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, make sure that will you put your hard hat.
Speaker 4: On, you know, yeah they all start scurrying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, but it is funny about just how slow
Speaker 1: all that ship is. Dude, It's crazy. But anyway, look,
Speaker 1: Huffy man, you are fucking legit.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: Really enjoyed this conversation and would love to do it again.
Speaker 4: Brother, Hey, for sure, I loved my time and I
Speaker 4: love talking to both of you guys as well, and yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm down do it again.
Speaker 3: Sure, all right, of course we're gonna have another episode
Speaker 3: with you, but I just want to hang out with
Speaker 3: you to be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, Yeah, all right, the one we will
Speaker 1: uh we will see you all on the flip side,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 8: It.
Speaker 2: Keep