WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:05.440 It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZY Constance Radio. 2 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:10.839 Well well, well, welcome back everybody. That was an interesting 3 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:15.359 hour with a variety of different topics. And it's not 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:18.879 easy for us, from my producer during the day, Marita, 5 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:22.719 to get four different guests every night on topics that 6 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:26.079 really do impact a lot of people. So I hope 7 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:28.440 you enjoyed. I hope you enjoyed the eight o'clock hour 8 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:30.359 as you enjoy the nine to ten of the eleven 9 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:33.039 o'clock hours as well. And by the way, if you've 10 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:35.439 missed any hour of Nightside, you can go to Nightside 11 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:41.359 on demand dot com. 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So 30 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:45.480 I was looking at my Boston Herald, and the Boston 31 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:53.760 City Council never surprises. They just never surprise. And this 32 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:59.120 is one that just shows and proves in my opinion 33 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:03.519 that at least in Boston and maybe in your community, 34 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:06.000 I don't know. Of course, in your community you probably 35 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:12.000 elect maybe city councilors, maybe you elect aldermen or whatever. 36 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:16.280 But in Boston, in Boston, we have thirteen city councils, 37 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:18.960 all of whom wake up every morning, look in the 38 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:24.120 mirror and think they're the mayor. Because that's just the 39 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:27.039 way it works in Boston. Every city councilor wants to 40 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:30.439 be the mayor. It's like everybody who plays for the 41 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:33.919 Providence Bruins, and maybe this year, it's true they feel 42 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:36.039 that they could do better than the Boston Bruins. But 43 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:39.439 that's the story for another night. So the Boston City Council, 44 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:46.080 how many of you have, upon occasion, called and ordered 45 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:48.319 some food to be delivered to your home. You know, 46 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:51.280 you get home late and you're hungry, and you don't 47 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:55.240 have time. Maybe you haven't been to the supermarket in weeks, 48 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:59.240 and there's nothing in your refrigerator, perhaps except for an 49 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.039 orange and maybe some milk that is kind of on 50 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:04.439 the edge. And you say, well, I feel like a 51 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:07.280 real meal, and I've had an orange and a glass 52 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.280 of milk in the past. So you order, You call 53 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:14.280 your local restaurant, You call you if you live in Roslindale, o, 54 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.159 JP or wherever. And of course you do the same 55 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:20.560 thing if you live in New Bedford or a Worcester 56 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.719 or Lowell. But what happens in Boston might set a 57 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:28.039 precedent for these other communities. So you have these politicians, 58 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:34.759 these elected leaders, who really think they can run the 59 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:37.719 lives of their constituents. They are not there to serve 60 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:41.520 and help you. They are there to make whatever name 61 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:44.199 they can make. Make so. We have a couple of 62 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:47.560 city councilors who were highlighted a piece by Gala Cawley 63 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:51.520 yesterday in the Herald. City Council meaning the Boston City 64 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:59.240 Council weighing new foe de food delivery tax. Yeah, as 65 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.840 you've often heard, let me say, politicians in Massachusetts only 66 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:06.080 tax two things, anything that moves and anything that doesn't move. 67 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:10.639 So if you have a car, they tax it, excise tax, 68 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:15.520 and then tax on the automobile forever. If you own 69 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:18.839 a home, it doesn't move, they tax it. It doesn't matter, 70 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:21.920 they tax it all. It's as simple as that. So 71 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:26.079 now you've heard the phrase that the politicians are nickel 72 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:30.240 and diming people to death. I know you won't believe this, 73 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.160 particularly if you didn't read the article by Gayla Cawley 74 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:38.519 in the Herald yesterday. But the City Council. I read 75 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.680 it and I thought this can't be true. The council 76 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:46.600 is discussing a potential amendment to a Road Safety and 77 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:53.120 Accountability for Delivery Provider's Ordinance. That's a mouthful, okay, proposed 78 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:57.279 by the mayor. She wants road safety and accountability for 79 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:01.040 delivery providers. So if you're out there tonight and you're 80 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:05.000 a food deliverer, this is for you. If you're out 81 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:08.279 there tonight and you're an uber driver who maybe occasionally 82 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:12.839 picks up orders at one of these food locations, this 83 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:17.839 is for you as well. The city of Boston who 84 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:21.759 can't hire enough police officers. There are so many things 85 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:25.800 that they cannot do. They cannot allow people to drive 86 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:29.360 into the city without bike lanes everywhere. They want to 87 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:34.279 impose Get this, you talk about nickel and diming, This 88 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:40.399 is nickel and diming. Literally. They want to propose add 89 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:44.000 on tack on to this proposal from the mayor, which 90 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:47.879 god enough probably is crazy enough. Anyway, They want to 91 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:56.439 propose a fifteen cent that's right, a fifteen cent delivery 92 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:02.279 fee per order for national third party food delivery companies 93 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:05.720 that operate in Boston. I have no idea what they 94 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:10.519 mean by national third party food delivery companies that operate 95 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.879 in Boston. And by the way, when I said they 96 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:17.000 want a nickel and dime, you take one nickel and 97 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.079 one dime and you got fifteen cents. Think of the 98 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:24.560 amount of paperwork, the amount of paperwork that would be 99 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:31.639 involved to keep track of fifty every every food delivery 100 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:37.319 and fifteen cents. These people are nuts at this point. 101 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.839 I mean, when I read it yesterday in Gala's piece 102 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:45.079 in the Herald, I thought to myself, fifteen percent. So 103 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.800 let's say that I don't know, someone ordered a ten 104 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:53.199 dollars burger. Well, you can't get a ten dollar burger 105 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:55.720 in Boston anymore. Let's assume they ordered a thirty dollars 106 00:06:55.720 --> 00:07:01.680 burger in Boston. Thirty dollars burger Boston, and maybe a 107 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:04.560 drink with it, a ten dollars pepsi or something like that. 108 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:07.120 It's going to be forty dollars. Let's work round it 109 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.360 at forty. So I thought to myself, Okay, you know 110 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:17.639 they'll charge a sixth of that, fifteen percent of that. 111 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:21.160 That'd be about six bucks. So that instead of being 112 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:25.639 in order that you'd pay forty dollars for with a tip, 113 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:30.800 of course, that tack on an additional six dollars. That's 114 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.480 what I thought. Or to put it more simply, if 115 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:38.399 let's say you ordered something that was just twenty dollars, 116 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:45.319 keep it simpler. A six percent tax on twenty dollars 117 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:50.319 would be what about twenty or something like that. Um, No, 118 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:58.120 fifteen cents why would any city councilor in his or 119 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.439 her right mind come come up with that number of 120 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:06.480 fifteen cents? This is the delivery fee assessment. A delivery 121 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:09.800 fee of fifteen cents per order, per order, and they 122 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:13.720 write it out so there's no no confusion here. Zero 123 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.759 big dollar sign in front of the zero point one 124 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.560 point five per order shall be assessed on each provider 125 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:23.920 operating within the City of Boston. Providers shall remit the 126 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.959 total delivery fees on a quarterly basis. Well, that's going 127 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:28.600 to add up to a lot of money in a 128 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:33.200 format and manner prescribed by the Boston Transportation Department ensuring 129 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:38.159 accurate and timely reporting. Revenue generated from this fee shall 130 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:43.799 be dedicated exclusively to initiatives that improve transportation infrastructure. Oh yeah, 131 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:45.639 they're gonna pave a lot of roads, They're gonna fill 132 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.519 a lot of potholes. Without every one of those fifteen cents, 133 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.639 they would they would be better to tap people throw 134 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:53.919 dimes into the potholes than they'd be all set. Oh also, 135 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:58.159 traffic safety, yep. Environmental sustainability, we're gonna we're gonna end 136 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.639 climate change with this as well as enforcement of this ordinance. 137 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.399 Because you're going to have the people enforcing the ordinance. 138 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.399 I assume you're going to have to have. Now you 139 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:09.480 have meter maids out there tagging automobiles. Now you're gonna 140 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.559 have to have some sort of enforcement officers. I shouldn't 141 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:15.519 say meter mads. That's a sexist term. Strike that enforcement 142 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:21.240 officers who will be monitoring the number of people who 143 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:25.679 came in, flew in to the door, ran out with 144 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:28.159 an order try to keep it warm on a cold 145 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.440 winter's night. Penalties may include it may result in suspension 146 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:34.759 of revocation of the provider's permit as outlined in Section 147 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:39.519 seventeen Hyphen twenty two dot eight. Boston Traffic Department may 148 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:44.039 impose an additional penalty for repeated violations. To ensure transparency 149 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:47.919 and accountability BTD, I'm just gonna leave it at BTD. 150 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:48.120 You know. 151 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.919 Boston Transportation Department shall publish an accessible annual report detailing 152 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:56.559 the total revenue collected from the delivery fee, the specific 153 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:59.360 programs and projects funded by the fee, and a summary 154 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:04.440 of enforcement actions taken against noncompliant providers. B TEND may 155 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:08.000 periodically review and adjust the delivery fee. Oh, we may 156 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:12.240 periodically review and adjust the delivery fee. I don't think 157 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:14.679 it's going to be decreased. Let me just get on 158 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:17.840 the record as that subject to a review and approval 159 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.360 by the City Council, because we're the most powerful thirteen 160 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.080 people in Boston other than the Mayor, to ensure it 161 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:27.600 remains effective in supporting objectives outlined in seventeen hyphen twenty 162 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:31.919 two point seven, Section C under no circumstances showed the 163 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:34.559 delivery fee established in this section be passed on to 164 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:39.320 individual operators, local businesses, or consumers in the form of surcharges, 165 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:43.279 additional fees, or pricing adjustments. No, of course not. They 166 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:45.320 are going to raise the price of anything, No matter 167 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.360 of fact, though I guess they'll probably drop the price, right, Yeah, 168 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:55.879 they'll be They'll be selling They'll be selling filet mignon 169 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:59.360 for two bucks. Once say, this is crazy, This is 170 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:04.559 just insane. Is this what politicians are elected to do. 171 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.679 I'm hoping to hear from as many of you as possible, 172 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:11.240 And if you're like me and you're someone who is 173 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:16.360 really suspicious of what government tries to do, feel free 174 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:19.799 to join this conversation. Uh you may say, well, this 175 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:22.200 is nicol and Dimes stuff, Dan, and it is, and 176 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:25.000 that's why I'm doing it as nicol and dime stuff 177 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:29.799 six one, seven, two, five four ten thirty six one seven, 178 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.919 nine three one ten thirty. If you think this is 179 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:37.840 a good idea, first of all, fifteen cents, that's not 180 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:40.519 even going to cover enforcement of the program. That's not 181 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:45.240 going to cover the tickets that people are going to 182 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:47.240 have to fill out or the reports they're going to 183 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:52.080 have to file. This is what the City Council of 184 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:59.799 Boston has reduced itself to. I think we need to 185 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:01.639 get back to the to the good old days of 186 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:05.960 Freddie Langholm six one seven, two five ten thirty six 187 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:09.559 one seven nine three one ten thirty. This is government 188 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:12.600 at its worst, in my opinion. Feel free to join 189 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:15.080 the conversation. Be right back on Nightside. 190 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.360 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 191 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.039 to night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 192 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:24.759 All right, let's go to the phone calls. Let's start 193 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:27.000 off with Bill Oh. By the way, I must mention 194 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:31.320 that we invited City Councilor Sharon Turkin to join us tonight. 195 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.440 Who's the I guess, the primary proponent of this fee. 196 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:40.399 And we also invited a gentleman named Stephen Clark, who's 197 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:44.360 the president and the CEO of the Massachusetts Restaurant Association, 198 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:49.559 but he was unable to join us tonight, so fortunately 199 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:53.120 he didn't provide someone else. I would assume that restaurant 200 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:58.799 owners would have an interest in fighting this, uh, this 201 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:03.399 ridiculous fifty percent fee. I mean they said it's like 202 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:05.360 a five dollars fee to say, well, at least it's 203 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.679 worth it. I mean, anyway, let me go to Bill 204 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.559 in Boston see what he has to think here. Bill, 205 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:13.440 you were first up tonight on Night Side and first 206 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.399 up this week. Welcome Hi Dan Bill, Hi Bill. 207 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.519 Hi Dant. So you think it'll be a lot easier 208 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:25.480 and quicker to raise these funds as opposed to fifteen 209 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:28.919 percent or fifteen cents per order to just cut back 210 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:30.879 on waste and overspending. 211 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:36.200 You're asking me to think that the city council or 212 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:40.159 the mayor in Boston would cut back on waste and overspending. 213 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:41.879 Are you out of your mind? 214 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:45.159 We could raise a lot more money that way. And 215 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:48.000 I know there's some opposition to cutting back on waste 216 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:48.799 and overspending. 217 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:51.440 Yeah, well that's that's one of the great purposes of 218 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:54.519 government is to look yeah, you heard the story that 219 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:55.960 at the end of the year, the end of the 220 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:59.639 fiscal year, where they have some budget line that they 221 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:06.120 have spent, they will turn around and say, hey, if 222 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:11.000 we don't spend this, we're gonna lose it. You get it, 223 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.399 you know they do what the last thing you want 224 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:17.840 to do is say, oh, my goodness, it's insane. 225 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:23.240 It's going after the small businesses and the going after 226 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:25.159 the people that are just trying to put food on their. 227 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:30.039 Table, exactly right, the very people who provide the tax 228 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:34.360 money that allows them to hire their brothers in laws 229 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:36.879 and their cousins and their best friends from high school 230 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:39.759 as aides and assistants that they probably don't need. 231 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:42.399 You know, yes, exactly. 232 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:47.799 It's it's just amazing. They will kill the golden goose. 233 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:50.759 I mean, you see what's going on in Washington right now, 234 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.840 and I think that the amount of waste and spending 235 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:58.720 that I think the Trump administration should probably slow it 236 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:01.480 down a little bit for their own But if the 237 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:05.399 government was not thirty six or thirty seven trillion dollars 238 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:09.240 in the hole, I mean you got to do something here. 239 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:14.519 Yeah, absolutely, instead of just going after the taxpayers trying 240 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:15.279 to make a living. 241 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.879 Well, they're going after not only the people who will 242 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:21.600 be impacted by this. Which people don't understand is that 243 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:25.759 when you come home after long day at work, you 244 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:29.240 get up early, you go to work. Maybe you're doing 245 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:31.759 a job you don't particularly like, but you do it 246 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.159 because you've got to make a living and you're earning money. 247 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:36.000 And a good portion of that money is going in 248 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:38.399 taxes to the Feds and to the state, and also 249 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:41.360 to the city. If you're renting, if you're a young 250 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:45.279 person renting in the city, the least that you pay 251 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.519 the rent you pay every month, A good portion of 252 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:51.039 that is for the property taxes that that the owner 253 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.080 of the bill of the property is charged. He's not 254 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.799 going to say, oh, I'll cut your rent by three 255 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.200 hundred a month, don't worry about it. No, they're going 256 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:03.039 to pass right wrong whatever there It all gets past. Yeah, 257 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:04.919 it all runs downhill like water. 258 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:05.320 Right. 259 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:10.960 And so now a fifteen cent how much paperwork do 260 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:14.679 you think is involved in a fifth in keeping track 261 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:16.879 of a fifteen cent fee? 262 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:19.919 Think, let's keep them somebody employed. 263 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.519 I guess that's right, you gots That's exactly what it 264 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:25.279 comes down to. And you know it sounds like that 265 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:28.240 I'm cynical or you're cynical, but we're not. We're really not. 266 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:32.320 And yeah, I think we're practically. 267 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:36.519 Well, we've seen this play before. We've seen this before, 268 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:40.080 and you've got the city council that are there's thirteen 269 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:42.159 of them there that look in the mirror every morning 270 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:45.840 and say good morning, Madam mayor good morning, mister mayor. 271 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:46.879 I mean, I'm serious. 272 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:52.759 Yeah, Well, where our income tax rate could be. If 273 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:56.720 waste was eliminated, all the spending was eliminated, it'd probably 274 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:57.639 be no income tax. 275 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:03.799 Yeah. I again, I don't think they'll ever get rid 276 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:06.559 of the income tax realistically, but it could be a lot, 277 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:09.680 it could be a lot lower. Look in California, people 278 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:11.680 who are working in our next call is going to 279 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:16.240 be from California. In California, everybody has to pay federal 280 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:18.359 income tax, so it can be as high as thirty 281 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:20.640 seven percent. And in California it's a lot of people 282 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.960 who do very well. They make thirty seven percent, and 283 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:27.519 then they're paying thirty uputs of thirteen percent of the 284 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:30.599 state and never mind what else they're paying in terms 285 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:34.160 of excise taxes and other forms of taxes. They're working 286 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:36.720 for the state. They're not working for themselves in California. 287 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:40.640 And that's why California and California has just a myriad 288 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:41.640 of problems. 289 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.720 Is that the highest tax right in the country for 290 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:45.400 a state. 291 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:51.759 Tax is California. Right, wow, thirteen. Our tax in Massachusetts 292 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:54.599 is you know, five pen but then you add in 293 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:58.519 the millionaires tax and it's nine percent. So if you're 294 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:03.759 in California and you're you're making some money. And whether 295 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:07.759 you're George kloon Out or you're Mike Trump or or 296 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.279 playing for the Angels or Sultani, Yeah, uh, playing playing 297 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:13.640 for the Dodgers, which is why he went for this 298 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:15.799 twenty year contract and it was going to be mostly 299 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:21.960 deferred money. And by the way, Massachusetts with the millionaires tax, 300 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.000 how tough do you think it's going to be here 301 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:27.200 in Massachusetts for the Red Sox, the Bruins, the Celtics, 302 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:31.400 and the Patriots to sign talent, they need to compete 303 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:36.480 when the go to they go to Texas, they go 304 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:38.640 to Tennessee, they go to Florida, they go to a 305 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:44.319 lot of states where that doesn't exist. Actually, probably virtually everywhere, 306 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:47.160 even in New York. All right, Bill, thanks for getting 307 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:49.880 us going. I appreciate it, you know that. Thank you, 308 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:53.440 my friend, appreciate your coming. Thanks, talk to you soon, Okay. 309 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.799 One line, one line open at six one seven two 310 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:57.839 five four ten thirty. I got two lines at six 311 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:00.640 one seven nine three one ten thirty. I'm going to 312 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:04.319 shut this off at nine o'clock. A rather coming up 313 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:07.640 at ten o'clock. Excuse me. We're going to talk about 314 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:11.279 a the question of who's going to lead the Democratic 315 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:13.960 Party out of the wilderness. I hope to god they did, 316 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:16.240 they do come out of the wilderness, and that they 317 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:18.799 can pull their act together, But right now, they seem 318 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:22.079 to be scrambling, and uh, it almost looks as if 319 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:25.279 the future of the party might fall to Bernie Sanders. 320 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:29.039 He certainly has has a lot of passion and a 321 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:32.599 lot of intelligence, and I've spoken about him before. I 322 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:34.720 don't necessarily agree with him, but I think he's I 323 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:38.640 think he's pretty honest. Six one seven thirty six seven, 324 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:41.319 nine thirty. We'll keep it going here at night side. 325 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:44.839 They have invented another tax in Boston. For all I know, 326 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.359 it may be a tax that they're copying. Maybe they're 327 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:50.160 not smart enough to invent another tax. Maybe this tax 328 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:53.680 already exists in other cities. I mean, obviously where we're 329 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.799 we're going to have congestion pricing in Boston at some point, 330 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:00.079 we're stealing that from London and from from New New 331 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:01.200 York City. Back on night. 332 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:06.680 Side, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 333 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:10.640 Let's keep rolling here and again, by the way, this 334 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:18.799 comes the increase, this fifteen cent increase comes against the 335 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:23.680 backdrop of the of Massport increasing rideshare fees to and 336 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:27.640 from Logan Airport. So all they're going to do with 337 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:32.200 Massport is they will increase the It shows that right now. 338 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:34.880 I guess the prices are going to go from three 339 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:36.720 and a quarter to five point fifty in the next 340 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:38.839 couple of years, and then seven to fifty starting in 341 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:42.519 twenty twenty seven. I think they may have actually come 342 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.480 to some sort of an agreement of a little lesser 343 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:50.720 than fees, a little less. I guess, according to a 344 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:53.799 piece that I'm seeing here, the current fee three and 345 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:56.160 a quarter a trip will rise to five point fifty 346 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.480 on July first. It never goes down. So those of 347 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.119 you who are out there tonight, uber and lyft drivers, 348 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:07.599 how's that going to impact you? Let's go to my 349 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:10.000 friend David in San Francisco. I got two or three 350 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:12.400 friends named David in San Francisco. I'm not sure this 351 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:15.160 one is. It's always we never know for sure. Hey 352 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:17.079 David in San Francisco, welcome back. 353 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:21.720 Oh thanks Dan. And I'm the one that usually ends 354 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:23.920 up swimming. Well, let me ask you. 355 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:27.160 I hope if you're wearing your swim trunks tonight, let 356 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.960 me know, and hopefully we can end up in a 357 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.279 conversation which won't end up with you in the water. 358 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:32.680 How's that? 359 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:34.440 Yeah? 360 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.640 Right, Well, you know you're in the famous seventeen seventy 361 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:43.640 six Boston and colony economics was the big deal back then, 362 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:49.880 doesn't Yeah, and Uber doesn't have its headquarters in Boston. 363 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:52.839 I take it. I don't know if you have Lyft 364 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:55.279 out there or Amazon there. 365 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:57.839 Well, yeah, we got all that, you know, We're we're 366 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:01.000 fairly advanced here. We have all the stuff you guys 367 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:02.240 have an SF. 368 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:07.359 Shore, all right, But the fifteen cent would be added 369 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:11.079 to all of those different companies, and none of those 370 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:16.279 corporate headquarters are in Boston. So colony economics is going 371 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:20.240 on here in Boston and in almost every city in 372 00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:24.160 the world. Those companies are so huge if you go 373 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:29.160 into I don't know, Lusan. I'm trying to think of 374 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:33.559 some bizarre town in Zanzibar or something like that. 375 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.960 Don't if anybody could think of a bizarre town in Zanzibar. David, 376 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.799 I know it's going to be you. Before you go 377 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:40.519 off on me here, just for a second, let me 378 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:43.680 make sure I understand where you're going. I really enjoy 379 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:45.599 having a conversation with you as long as we can 380 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:50.680 have a conversation. So what they're doing in Boston, as 381 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:53.920 I've already mentioned the nickel and diming people, So they're 382 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:58.319 saying to you, if you're working as an uber driver, uh, 383 00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:01.319 and you have people that you're picking up food for 384 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:06.200 the restaurant, I guess is supposed to charge an extra 385 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:11.960 fifteen cents or pay an extra fifteen cents, But you 386 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:14.400 know that's only going to be passed on to the customer. 387 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.559 I think you and I both are smart enough to 388 00:23:16.599 --> 00:23:21.039 realize that. I mean, when when Ubert you know there's Ubers, 389 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:25.599 they're they're increasing the airfares here. I've been to San 390 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:30.480 Francisco and I've taken ubers from San Francisco Airport just 391 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.160 like Boston, by the way, but now they're going to 392 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.960 raise the per feed trip, not only what you pay, 393 00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:40.799 you know, and it could be dependable where you're coming from. 394 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:44.640 Seventy seventy five one hundred bucks, if you're from the suburbs, 395 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:46.839 they're going to whack you out for an addictional five 396 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:51.319 point fifty And you know, I mean that's gonna a 397 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.400 number of people are going to say, you know what, Hey, 398 00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:57.240 I don't need to go. And maybe what people will 399 00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:59.519 start to do is they'll say it's getting too expensive 400 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.759 and they'll double up or something. And it always comes 401 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:08.359