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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 9: Story Waters, Welcome back to the Jay Burton Show. How

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you doing then?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back. Happy to be here.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, man, it's hard to believe this is only that

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third time you've appeared on my show now a little

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over a year. But you and I have been talking

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in the background for a long time, and the two

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of us together have kind of concocted something that I

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think is worth discussing. I mean, you sort of came

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up with a name for it right before we went live,

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the Republican Samson option before we get into it. So

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I know how many comments. Yes, I know, my audio

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asn't as good. I'm traveling, I'm on the road, and

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so instead of my normal studio, which is just a

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spare bedroom, in my normal microphone, I'm on AirPods in Airbnb. Nonetheless,

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I thought this was important enough to get into it

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a little bit of background, and then I'll toss it

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to Stormy. I've been really confused for a while about

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the term woke right because my mind I couldn't figure

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out why it still had legs, because it was really stupid.

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It didn't make sense. It wasn't a good meme. It

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was lazily employed that everyone really other than arch zionist

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conservative warmongers was woke right. Scott Wharton and Thomas seven

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seven to seven have almost nothing in common except for

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the fact that they were both quote unquote quoke right. Oh.

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I guess they both know Daryl Cooper, so maybe they

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have something in common, but in all seriousness, I couldn't

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really figure it out. And this particularly relates to the

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figure of one jam Lindsay's. Obviously, to me, it seemed

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that he realized that the woke left grift was up.

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He needed something new to justify his position. But I

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couldn't figure out why he was so aggressively going after everyone,

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making himself completely unpopular until I realized something. Particularly, I

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realized this with Tucker's turn, or at least Tucker's dramatic

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turn on Israel, because I realized there was an equivocation

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being set up. Pucker is woke, right, Okay, that makes sense.

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There's a desire to paint him and anyone else, you know,

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questioning the foreign policy establishment with that label. All right,

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fair enough, But then more pieces started to fall into place. Obviously,

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you had Nick Wentz appearing on Tucker, which created a

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massive flipout, and he was woke rin And then it

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became Nick for one, Tez has got your kids. He

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has not just your kids, but Republican staffers, anyone new

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and upcoming in your organization. They're associated with one tes

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they're woke, right. Not only that, but Pucker, he's woke

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write and you know who's connected all of this, Vice

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President JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance.

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you will, you know, building out the conspiracy map. And

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then there were more details sort of associated with it.

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named Operation Midnight Hammer, all of the criticism was being

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directed towards Vance and HEGSAF again an interesting point. Now

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other things started to fall into place. First, I noticed

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that if you remember, Marjorie Taylor Green decided not to run.

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but there's no reason to assume she'd lose her primary.

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Speaker 2: Why does she?

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Speaker 9: Is she retiring at least of the moment from politics.

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And another point, and Stormy, you and I have been

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talking about this behind the scenes. Why didn't the GOP

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try in Virginia? I mean, look like it would have

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been a tough race, no matter why. But at least

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according to my behind the scenes sources, there were other

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much better candidates, people who could have made a really

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good run of it instead of Wilson Earl Sears, who

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a year and a half ago, anyone with a brain

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told you had no chance of winning. Look, you have

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a Republican governor that was massively popular, almost a sixty

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percent approval rating in a purple state, which is very good,

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and still had that an exit puling, and yet his

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designated successor lost by you know, an absurd margin of victory,

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even with any number of prominent scandals like j Jodens

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saying I'm going to kill your kids. So I couldn't

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figure out why, Like, why isn't the Republican Party try

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so my theory, and after I've finished out letting this,

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i'll kick it back to Stormy is basically this is

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a struggle for the GOP after Trump, And in my mind,

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to regain control of the party. Now, look, Trump is

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obviously sort of slavishly devoted to our our strongest ally right.

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neocons are not happy with the populist direction of the party.

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with a different group right, the sort of tech elite,

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anywhere near the help. I think it's what is likely

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is or a faction within it, is deliberately trying to

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sabotage their chances and elections. Why would they do that? Well,

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to be honest, it seems as if and you can

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see this from even figures like Brillin Hollyhand if I

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do hope we'll come on my podcast. I've sent him

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a nice email. But he wrote a piece about the

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woke right and what he said, Oh, he didn't say much,

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and he's nineteen any some particular intelligent anyway, But what

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he basically said is the woke right is going to

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cost us elections. That is what's going to happen if

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these voices are allowed. If we don't do what Mark

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Levin said, which is canceled them the same way we

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canceled Joe Sober In the same way we canceled Sam Francis,

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the same way we canceled Patty. Can't they're going to

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cost us an election. So what happens. Let's say an

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election is lost and badly, which it is likely to

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be given current trends, given the ineffectual nature of the

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Trump administration, they are going to be punished. And I

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will say I think it is unlikely that people flip.

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I think people will just stay home, similar to what

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happened with the Conservative Party in the UK. But I

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think that there will be, whether manufactured or not, an

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electoral crisis for the GOP. They'll get smashed hard, and

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what will be the narrative. The narrative will be, oh,

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we let ourselves get too extreme. The same extreme that

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we saw on the woke left has now appeared on

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our side, the woke right, and it's time to clean house.

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play has changed. The neocons are nowhere near as ascendant

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as they were thirty years ago. They're going to give

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a run of it. They're definitely going to give a

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run of it. And I think the motivation is twofold,

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which is one to sort of knit what they see

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to be a real threat to their control in the

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butt a new burgeoning interest group, the pekalite with people

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like again who I don't like, but are not necessarily

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synonymous with desionists, cause people like Teal, people like the

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backers behind Muss or behind certain vans, and so to me,

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I think that is the move. I think figures like

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He is auditioning for the Bill Buckley role, the man

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who decides what is acceptable within discourse, and not another

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person auditioning for that role is one Barry White's, who

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you may remember, managed to get nearly half a billion

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dollars for a substack. Okay, it's a popular substack, but

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it is not that big. Believe. Now she's at the

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head of ABC, and she said something this morning. I've

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sent it to a group chat that we share story

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that she wants to, in her words, define the quote

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forty yards of acceptable discourse the narrow band, and she

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wants to kick off people like Tucker, like Nick, like Hassan,

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who you know, okay, fair enough, isn't my favorite guy

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in the world, but kick them off and replace them with,

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to quote her, highly charismatic figures like Alan Dershowitz, an

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eighty eight year old man deeply connected to Jeffrey Epstein,

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who defended himself from allegations that he was on those

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flights by saying, yes, I did get a massage, but

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I kept my underwear on, and described the person on

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the Lolita Express who get him said massage as a

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old woman named Olga. Don't know if I believe that.

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So that is what I see happening. I see that effectively,

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the Conservatives are acting how they always do, which is

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the hook trailing behind the left, designed to scoop up

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any stragglers, designed to keep you back on the plantation,

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as it were. And so anyway, story, I realized I

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brought you on my show and then ranted at you

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for ten unbroken minutes, but I figured i'd at least

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set out what I see happening.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a good thing. I agree with you, because

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this is from everything I hear, is exactly what's happening.

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And to put it back, to rewind it back earlier

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into your monologue, which was a very good one. What

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do all those figures have in common? Right? The people

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that all of a sudden sprouted up with this terrible

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terrible meme like woke, right, and you said, like why

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they landed on this particular turn of phrase. You know,

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it's it's confusing because it's a terrible meme out of

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the gate. But all of the people that they have

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on their back bench, Brett Weinstein, James Lindsay, Joel Berry,

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actually the entire institution of the Babylon b they all

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got famous for combating woke in the first place. In fact,

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woke is the only thing that they have as a

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claim to fame. The only relevance they have in the

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discourse at all is being experts at diagnosing wokeness. So

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if all you had were these fats, well, were these

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fine gentlemen, what could be the only direction you go?

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You're very welcome. It's the only direction you can take

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if these are the people that you have in your toolbox,

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which would have been weird, Like, okay, maybe they came

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up with this themselves. They have like little meetings about

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how do we stay relevant and get my ad bucks

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for what is it? What is that supplement brand they

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all push? I can't remember.

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Speaker 11: Anyways, I've been thinking we need to talk to them

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Speaker 12: You might not listen to me but yeah, as good

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a time as any. Okay, I'll give it a go

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if he ever takes those ear forms out.

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Speaker 11: Vaping is harmful to your child's health. Nicotine addiction can

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affect their concentration, sleep and moods. They're much more likely

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to smoke when they're older, too, So take a deep

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Speaker 2: But then Benjaminett and Yahoo on several occasions comes out

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one of it to Congress, the other one to PBS

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I believe or something like that. He goes, you know

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what the problem is with your American political dialogue right now?

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right problem. I was like, all right, once maybe I

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don't know who runs his Twitter, but maybe somebody told

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him about it. But like four or five times again,

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like almost the point where he's like directing the discourse

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for him to talk about it, and the yeah, the plan,

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the Samson option of the Republican Party. Holly Hand is

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not the only one that has penned such an article

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saying that if in the event we lose an election,

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maybe this most coming up, it is going to be

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the fault of these people and no other. And then

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Speaker 10: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Two cover stories? And the New York Times knows how

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to make you look ugly. They are specialists in it,

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and they must have dug for weeks to find the

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one flattering photo where Nick Fuines looks like, you know,

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chisel chinned Chad in a leather jacket. It's kind of

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funny because right at the same time as Tucker drops

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the interview, less than six hours later, that cover story

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was loaded up in the hopper Ready to Go came

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out the same day, which is odd, right, And if

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you think about you know, because all right, what was

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the first six what was the first like one hundred

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and twenty days of the Trump administration? Like it was

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just bangers after bangers. It was really good. The trump

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sudden it stopped, and then it got really really really

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gay really quickly, and it was almost like he Trump

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was because in order for the Republicans to lose, in

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order for this plan to work, you have to basically

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turn the base against Donald Trump because you can't wait

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till twenty twenty eight. You have to do twenty twenty six.

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It has to be the midterms because two things. One,

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stuff till till twenty twenty eight, you have a defacto

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you know, thousand year Vance Reich. It's happening, right. If

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you just sat back and didn't you know, do things

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and how you would do those things. I'll get into

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in a moment with some interesting news that was broken

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on the Inquisition podcast. The other thing you would have

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to do is make sure that this didn't go very

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wrong for you, because the other people that hate our

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Middle Eastern allies as much as probably the woke right

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does is like the crazy the crazy left, which is

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now also ascendant in the Democratic Party. So you wouldn't

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twenty twenty eight and give it to you know, the libtards.

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You would want to do the midterms because at if

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the Republicans lose the midterms, what it does is create

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a locked government, right, so like you know, because it

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won't happen in the Senate, it will only happen in

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the House. So you basically have paralyzed the Congress. So

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those crazed, you know, palestinioid people, they can't really do

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any damage because you want them to rise, but only

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in so much as you want Republicans in the Senate

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to fall down or sorry, in Congress to fall down, right,

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you don't want like a leftoid sweep or else. You're

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just in just as much trouble. But they opposite direction.

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But now, how do you make Trump lose the base? Well,

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who gets control of what Trump does and who Trump sees.

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That's Miss Susie Wiles. Who is Miss Susie Wiles. Susie

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Wiles is the former campaign director of the same guy

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that was on TV talking about the woke right, mister

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Benjamin Nett Yahoo, the prime minister of a place in

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the Middle East. So wait a second, the guy that's

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worried about the woke right the most. And you know, Jay,

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I'll toss it back to you here momentarily because I

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know you are a James Lindsay expert. It is a

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personal fascination of yours, not just his appearance, which is

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by itself fascinating, or that you know he has an

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open marriage and literally sits in a cuckchair, has children

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with only fans. Like I mean, like the fascination with

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James Lindsay, you know, can really tumble one down a

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rabbit hole. But in particular to his connections or in

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his assent to the same nation to which Susie Wiles

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directed the campaign of its current incumbent head of state.

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So Susie Wiles as broken on the inquisition podcast by

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one Darryl Cooper, also known as Martyer, made excellent podcast.

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Everyone should be following already that Susie Wiles is basically

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running who gets to see Trump, who doesn't get to

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see Trump, What Trump does, what Trump doesn't do, And

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if anyone wants like an ad hoc, you know, like,

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can he squeeze me into the schedule For that to happen,

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you need to a give Susie Wiles forty thousand dollars

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to her foundation, or if you want repeated access to

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the president, you can get a discount if you buy

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twelve months all at once for a total and a

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bargain at two hundred thousand dollars. So okay, we're going

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to send. If what could be you know said about

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Donald Trump is true that he will literally repeat the

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opinions of whoever the last person he was talking about

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or talking to, you could do a lot of damage

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with that alone. And it seems that people have kind

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of sussed this out inside the administration and apparently as

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of yesterday, Susie Wiles might be in the hot seat

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and might get fired by New Year's So there is

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besides Daryl's very founded accusation there seems to be confirmatory

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evidence happening in the machinations of the Trump administration. So

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in order for you to lose the midterms and blow

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up the Republican Party like the Samson option, you would

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need a key component of this would be to lose,

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for Trump to lose support of a large enough amount

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of the base that they stay home.

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Speaker 9: What are your thoughts, Yeah, so several things there. I

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think it's important to say. And obviously this is sort

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of implicit in everything you and I have said, Stormy

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that we are not like Republican Party guys like look

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like I don't really particularly care about the Republican Party

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per se, that I'm not really like emotionally invested in,

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you know, the GOP. But nonetheless does in my mind

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answer several questions, which is one to me, asstuon, as

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Trump won the election, the question is who comes next?

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in the GOP, how do they fight it out? Because early,

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and you know, I think I was skeptical and then

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very positive about you know, the first couple of months

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of the Trump administration, no one knew right, no one

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knew who was effectively going to come out on top

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because look like we understand, you know, any political party

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has multiple factions within it, and for the longest time,

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you know, Israel was the big dog in the GOP. Obviously,

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there are other concerns. You know, you look at a

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guy like Rex Tillerson, he's domestic energy, you know, Okay,

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he probably likes Israel a good bit, but not one

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hundred percent synonymous. But this new infusion of pet guys

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Speaker 14: Ah.

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Speaker 9: Now, I will say I still think it is up

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in the air. Right. There is a very real possibility

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that the tech bros went out in this. There are

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a couple of reasons I.

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Speaker 2: Want to say.

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Speaker 9: I want to say that, Which is one, let's look

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at the last time the neo cons and I I

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use that term in the most I guess, the most

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insulting way possible. Look at the last time they won

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out over their opposition. We'll go back to the mid nineties.

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So what was happening then, Okay, one Cold War was

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done and many of the Cold warriors, the Cannon included,

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basically said, all right, war is done. We go back

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to being a real country again. This is basically with

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the disagreement was over do we continue to have a

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world empire or RBA country? Again, vastly oversimplifying it. And

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let's look at the position that the neo conservatives were in.

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If you're looking for reference on this, there's probably twenty

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minutes at the kind of two thirds mark my show

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with Scott Wharton where we talk about Dick Cheney, where

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we go over exactly this. Well, the neo coms controlled

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an immense amount of institutions. Okay, they still do from

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a certain perspective, and as you and I no doubt

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a where story, they have successfully at least it seems

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like re established their control over heritage. Now there are

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other institutions in which they are not in charge. Is

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I has has made you know, some some motions towards

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our guys. Okay, not necessarily my best friend, I don't

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love is I. That's one you have, You have others TPUSA.

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We could talk about the point is okay. So it's

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on one hundred percent the same. They still have power there.

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But also the thing that they certainly do not have

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is media agemony.

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Speaker 8: So he was like messaging me all night and then

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he just ghosted me. No way. Yeah, he was like,

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you're so hot, I want to come over, okay, And

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I was like cool and he was like I'm on

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my way driving over right now. And then nothing. Phone

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use while driving can be deadly.

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Speaker 4: Your phone.

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Speaker 8: It won't kill you to put it.

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Speaker 14: Away from the road Safety Authority visit RSA dot i E.

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Speaker 10: For the twelve days of Christmas, Eurospa had for me

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Speaker 7: Crackers, eight lovely Jesus, seven sheets of wrappings, six stocking fillers.

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Speaker 14: You're super easy supermarket.

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Speaker 9: Well, look, they have Fox News, and I think it's

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important to say that it seems as if, you know,

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Fox News is interested in amplifying this, because we see

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across the pond that the Murdoch properties are amplifying the

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same thing. In England, they're trying to present the young

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English right, you know, nationalists, people who are anti immigration

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as being woke, right and connected.

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Speaker 2: One take.

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Speaker 9: Now, I realize thanks to a new feature rolled out

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on Twitter, we're aware of the fact that not all

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of vue Testa's audience is within the contiguous US. We

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understand that, we've understood that for a while. But unless

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I'm wrong, and I don't think I am, he's not

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nearly as big of a deal in the UK as

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he is here. Makes sense, it's not really what he

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talks about, but nonetheless, that is the line they're going with.

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They're playing the exact same playbook. And you know, the

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conservative quote unquote media in the UK seems as if

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they're using that excuse me as a way to scare

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off older voters and older donors, both connected to Murdoch,

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So that's one. Obviously theyn't control some media, but they're

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getting hillar eat, especially with the under forty crowd. And

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I think it's particularly interesting the degree to which they're

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trying to instill an inbuilt distrust among boomers towards young people,

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basically saying those young people, the young men trying to

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work their way into your institutions are up to no good.

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They're infiltrators, they're anti semites. Because I think that that

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was a clever tactical response to the fact that, be honest,

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even Rod Dreyer recognizes this young GOP staffers are our guys.

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I mean, they're probably you know, half a dozen of

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them listening to what I'm saying. Now, I've met a

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good number of them. You hear people say this.

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Speaker 2: About hello boys, the good work.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent. But I think that's very interesting

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because I think that they realize that they have a

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personnel problem. They've lost the youth, and the move they

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seem to be making is just to say, well, we

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don't need a youth, we can just ask them out.

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at best, that say, they get everything they want that boomers,

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as Levin say, hell, yes we do cancel culture. Well, okay,

474
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:16,359
that may solve your problem in the short term, but

475
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,640
long term it does not. And so in my mind, ultimately,

476
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,440
I do not think they will be able to put

477
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,039
the toothpaste back in the tube. I do not think

478
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:30,079
they will be able to win in the same way

479
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,920
they won back in the mid nineties. Paul Godfrey has

480
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,559
an essay I'm not sure if it's out yet or

481
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,720
not he sent me an advanced copy, and I do

482
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:41,240
owe him an email thanking him for that. Talking about

483
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,200
exactly this. You can look at it chronicles. Godfrid has

484
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,720
written about this any number of times, but basically talking

485
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,640
about the fact that the neo cons are sort of

486
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,559
sent They don't nearly have the same level of cultural

487
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:57,079
cachet that they used to do. They don't have the

488
00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:00,119
same level of cultural dominance that they used to. And

489
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:02,920
let's also be honest, they don't have the same level

490
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,440
of talent they used to. We have an immense amount

491
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,559
of talent and they're incredibly artificial. We saw this with Shapiro,

492
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,920
right the moment Shapiro actually has to argue, he falls

493
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,759
apart because he's not real. You've got an immense amount

494
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,799
of backing, he got an immense amount of advantages you

495
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,039
or I might not have, and he's used to fighting.

496
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,799
Let's be honest, ninety five IQ college freshmen, people who

497
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,480
don't really have any ideas at all, and you're here

498
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,960
to fight the badman, and they go up against a

499
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,519
a fast talking individual with an id education who can

500
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,880
rattle off a few talking points and they get bondied.

501
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,079
But that's not real there's not a real political dialectic.

502
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,039
You saw this when his vain attempt to try to

503
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:57,680
take down Tucker and Fluentes both. He just threw random

504
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,319
clips together, no argument, mean lud at the camera. So

505
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:07,359
in my mind, they certainly can and likely will succeed

506
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:11,240
in crashing the party in twenty six or twenty eight.

507
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:14,519
I see that as being very likely. But as far

508
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:19,160
as actually maintaining like a living conservative movement, as much

509
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,440
as that exists, to me, that's that's laughable, it's absurd.

510
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,920
I don't see it happening quite simply because they are

511
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,440
offering nothing to a rising generation. And when I mean nothing,

512
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,279
I mean literally nothing. Let's acknowledge the fact that at

513
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:37,960
the same time we are having this woke right discourse.

514
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,440
You know, the youth are coming for you. You need

515
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,799
to get rid of them. We're also having a discourse

516
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:47,039
about costs of living, right Ben Shapiro saying you don't

517
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:51,400
have the right to live, or you grew up, you

518
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,279
don't have the right to your ancestral land. Now, admittedly,

519
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,599
I think even he would admit this. He has different

520
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,680
feelings about land to which he feels that he has

521
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,119
a genetic attachment obviously then you have said that. But

522
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,720
really you're doing the exact same thing, ironically enough, that

523
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:12,200
the left did, which is say, young white men need

524
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,440
not apply. The only way you can be part of

525
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,839
our thing, part of our coalition, is by being gay.

526
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,519
And in the left this is literally gay. On the

527
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:27,319
right it is gay in a derogatory sense. But nonetheless,

528
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:32,480
you were offering people a horrible deal, a transparently horrible deal.

529
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:35,079
And to me that's the thing that has really come

530
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:39,440
out of this, which is, Look, we understand most people

531
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,079
are not particularly politically sophisticated. Right nerds like us may

532
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:48,359
read books most people don't about, you know, eighteenth century

533
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:51,240
Italian political philosophers, and to be honestly, they're probably better

534
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:56,319
for it. But most people act in their self interest,

535
00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:59,759
and when they perceive they're being given a very raw deal,

536
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:04,640
they react accordingly. Look, I'm not a populist. I don't

537
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,359
think that there's a people power element, that there will

538
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,960
be some sort of seventeen seventy six. But I think

539
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:15,239
that fundamentally, ruling classes need to be seen as legitimate

540
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,039
by the people with which they rule. They need to

541
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,599
have a sense of moral alignment, and I think that

542
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:26,159
for many people on the right, particularly Americans, the absolute

543
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,039
slavish devotion their leaders have not to them but to

544
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:35,480
a small quote unquote Middle Eastern democracy over everything else

545
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:39,079
is completely and totally absurd. And the idea that we

546
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,800
can simply go back, that we can go back to

547
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,119
the nineties, which we've roundly mocked the liberals for the

548
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:50,360
idw liberals, the true liberals, as you might say, is

549
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,199
just as absurd when a conservative says it. And so

550
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,320
to be honest, you know, I think these people are

551
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:59,559
completely and totally dooped. I mean, look like, sure, there's

552
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,000
a lot of in a nation. And in the same

553
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:06,039
way that they are seeming to be desirous to crash

554
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,079
the Republican Party, there's a lot of things they can

555
00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:10,920
crash that would make your or my life particularly difficult.

556
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: If you notice they've been threatening, oh really, like for

557
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:18,679
the very first for the very first time, you're seeing

558
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:23,519
in the discourse, Oh well, if America abandons a Middle

559
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:30,400
Eastern democracy, it will fall apart, it will collapse. Terrible

560
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,760
things will happen to it if it abandons this Middle

561
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:39,599
Eastern democracy. And then Mike Cuckabee today, who very ignominiously

562
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:46,440
decided to have a lovely reception party for one of

563
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:54,320
the most disgusting traders and spies, most damaging spies in

564
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,199
the last easily since the Rosenberg's trend there. I don't

565
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:03,360
know what to make of the trend, but you know,

566
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:12,559
inspies and names surnames. But he said, when basically asked

567
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:15,880
about why he decided to have a lovely reception for

568
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:24,440
Jonathan Pollard, it was America can't abandon this Middle Eastern

569
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,800
democracy because if it does, they will come after us.

570
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:36,760
Excuse me what? And I think that this is the

571
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,360
part of the discourse that at least is happening with them,

572
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,360
where there's a portion of their cohort that is further

573
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,119
out front than those trying to save it. And by

574
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:56,519
save it, I mean detonating the GOP. They're the ones

575
00:36:56,639 --> 00:37:01,559
kind of prepping for, you know, the American Samson option.

576
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:05,559
I guess you could say, because I think you're right,

577
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,239
mister Burden, I think there is really no way that

578
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,039
they pull out of this, because there was a lot

579
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:20,920
of when when did it happen? There was a lot

580
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:27,719
of commotion on Twitter about six or eight months back,

581
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,840
and they really clamped the hammer down hard on the discourse,

582
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,960
and many people were black pilling. I think this is

583
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000
at the time, as you know, they were trying to

584
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:39,760
authenticate everyone and there was a big push for the

585
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:46,079
removal of anonymity, and everyone was really upset and basically like, oh,

586
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:51,119
we are going to live under a Middle Eastern democracy panopticon.

587
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:57,320
And I try to tell everybody that that may be true,

588
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:02,280
but for the very first time, and why you see

589
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,320
them freaking out and making so many unforced errors, which

590
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:11,440
there are so many, They're under a panopticon now too,

591
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,239
for the very first time. Like we just talked about,

592
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:21,639
like what institutions they have control over, and I would

593
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,480
argue that the institutions that they have control over become

594
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:34,880
severely limited and substantially damaged in their efficacy and value

595
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,719
by their very control over them. So basically, in this

596
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:45,280
rise of anti Semitism that Barry Weiss and Ben Shapiro

597
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:52,039
are intent on fighting against, the best way they could

598
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,119
think of doing that is having a very large forum

599
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,599
with all of the key neocons quote unquote from all

600
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:11,480
aspects of government, finance, business, civil society, and from both

601
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:14,679
sides of the aisle. So basically we're gonna get all

602
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,320
of the neocons left and right, all right, Uh, public

603
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,400
and private, and we're gonna put them all in a

604
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:26,880
room and we're gonna call it. It's like the JWC

605
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:33,400
or WJC. I think it stands for World Neocon Council.

606
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,960
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Speaker 4: Call sensibly.

619
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:21,159
Speaker 2: And we're going to have big panel discussions about how

620
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:25,280
we're going to solve these problems. And basically they lay

621
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,199
out exactly what you and I just laid out as hypotheticals,

622
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,599
not so much the tanking of the midterms on purpose,

623
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,760
but everything up to that point, and then in the

624
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,679
hypotheticals we approached afterwards. And their bright idea is to

625
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:44,159
live stream this on YouTube for all of us to

626
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:49,960
turn into hot clips. They're not used to operating under

627
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,679
any type of scrutiny, and now that the scrutiny is applied,

628
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,840
these institutions become meaningless. They tried to clamp down on heritage.

629
00:40:59,360 --> 00:40:59,559
Speaker 17: They did.

630
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Speaker 2: All they did was blow up heritage and everybody knew

631
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,639
why it was blowing up. Wait, can't I can't say

632
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:09,440
notice abot in dinner when I'm a Catholic? Are you

633
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:12,440
forcing me to really to obey you?

634
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 10: Like?

635
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:16,639
Speaker 2: What's going on now? So they, in their attempt to

636
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:20,280
control these institutions, they destroy the credibility of these institutions.

637
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,119
And they don't understand that nature abhors a vacuum. Because

638
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,199
let's say they tanked the Republican Party. A Republican Party

639
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,719
is dead, there is no more gop on the ballot.

640
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,440
What rises in its place? And will that be far worse?

641
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,599
They do this every time, like if you if you

642
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:46,480
cancel guys, like let's say Mark Levin got his wish lists,

643
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,760
you cancel Tucker, Carlson and Nick what rises in their place?

644
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 9: Well, exactly. And I think that this is an interesting

645
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,599
point when we regard the term woke right, because in

646
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:11,800
my mind, there's sort of this typical back and forth

647
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,480
pivot where you could use the left as sort of

648
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:21,440
cultural acid, the same which you might say one one

649
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:24,840
might say. And then at the point where you know,

650
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,719
that language of privilege started to get uncomfortable, you could

651
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,320
pivot back to the right, you know, back and forth.

652
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,719
But that depended on a controlled left and a completely

653
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:41,599
and totally controlled right. Now, look, we got to understand

654
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,599
the left is not our friends. You know, they don't

655
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:48,159
want the same thing as us, But the thing is

656
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:58,800
ultimately given the sort of inevitable trend of left wing

657
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:07,280
politics and eventually sort of becomes cancerous and uncontrollable. Right

658
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,719
at a certain point, you can't control the rate at

659
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,800
which acid eats away at your foundation anymore. It's just going.

660
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 10: Right.

661
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,199
Speaker 9: And I think this is the explanation for the intense

662
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,679
crackdowns we saw across the you know, the world of

663
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,480
higher education with regard to the you know, the Palestinian

664
00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:32,320
protests right. Yeah, sure, from a certain level they were

665
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,599
able to get what they wanted done. But there are

666
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:38,360
still and I don't think this is a good thing

667
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,440
populations which are uncorrallable for that. You know, they're bringing

668
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,840
in people from places in the world who have a

669
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,440
long rooted distaste for neocons.

670
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: How about we leave it at that.

671
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 9: So there's that right, that that is is I think,

672
00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:01,199
from a certain perspective, escaping their control. Now on the right,

673
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,840
they've been able to say, you know, look at these

674
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,840
crazy you don't want that, right, so you better, you know,

675
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,639
you better basically oppose them, And well, they don't like this,

676
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,239
so you must like it, and sort of use that

677
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,719
back and forth. And we see that already. Right, the

678
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,960
the language of woke right is to tie us he

679
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:32,159
woke right to the crazy blue hair feminists right, to

680
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:36,400
sort of pull on that Pavlovian response to say, treat

681
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:40,639
them the same way. But there are several problems here. One,

682
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:46,559
as you've said, uh, that that pattern depends on their

683
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:55,880
their influence being largely subtle on the scene. And the

684
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,480
problem is, and look, we'll give Tuckers as many as

685
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:02,239
well as many other people credit. It's sort of hit

686
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,199
escape velocity, Like, I'm sorry at the point where you

687
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,960
have you know, figures like Sean Ryan, who I certainly

688
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,079
have my questions about, given his meteoric rise to fame

689
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,519
and self admitted history of CIA drug trafficking. Right, Well,

690
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:20,199
when you have his the USS Liberty, yeah, you know,

691
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,480
just you sort of fall into it, right, I mean

692
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,400
I've done it before. You go on vacation, you come

693
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,920
back at drug kingpin, you know, like he was without sin.

694
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: Every time I go on vacation, I have to fight

695
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,920
off the urge to not come back at drug kingpin. Typically,

696
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,320
I could see how a man would fall into it.

697
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:38,599
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a you know, it's it's a regular stumbling block.

698
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:41,639
But point is when you have someone like that talking

699
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:45,480
to you know, sailors aboard the USS Liberty, when you

700
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:47,960
have Tucker, when you have Hell, I mean even someone

701
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:50,960
is you know, relatively unseious as comedians like theo Ha

702
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,519
right talking about Israel, Like, you have hit the level

703
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,559
of saturation, right, especially among people of a certain age. Now,

704
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,960
this is a critique I'll throw at you story. I

705
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,280
don't necessarily share this, but I think it's an interesting one.

706
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,199
You You you see people saying, well, look, the reason

707
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:19,000
that odious figures people that you know, some particularly older

708
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,840
people have an instinctive reaction, are being mainstreamed by the

709
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,719
New York Times, But others such such as you know

710
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,159
Candas Owens, are being massively pushed is to tar and

711
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,360
feather anyone associated with those ideas. They're saying, oh, well,

712
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,719
the reason they're promoting, uh, they're promoting you know, people

713
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,800
like Candas Owans is to create the association between you know,

714
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,679
her claiming that Bridget mccrawn is a man that the

715
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,280
French government hired people to kill her, in the same

716
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,480
breath as she says things like, you know, the US

717
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:57,599
has an undue level of deference to Israel. Do you

718
00:46:57,639 --> 00:46:59,280
think that that is accurate? Do you think that there

719
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,559
is a desire to basically promote deliberately stupid versions to

720
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:07,559
create sort of the loose change narrative if you will surrender.

721
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I've said it before, I'll say it again. Our

722
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:16,280
enemy always elevates the counterparty it wishes to fight, and

723
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,519
not the one that wants to fight it.

724
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 9: I mean, you see this with Richard Spencer for example, Yep.

725
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: Dicky Spencer as Thomas Triple seven calls it who on

726
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:33,920
a old Glory Club I believe Election Nights special said

727
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:36,760
the funniest thing in the world, which I will not

728
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,280
repeat here, but Shaky.

729
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 9: Spencer, Honestly, you're talking to actually someone who will probably

730
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:51,199
be on the podcast immediately after this, Timelight Earth, which

731
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,880
I think is possibly the best comedy pairing in history,

732
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:56,079
the two of them.

733
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:58,639
Speaker 2: But yeah, you podcast, I would listen.

734
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:03,159
Speaker 9: You can dig back through a listener and uh, find

735
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:05,360
what we're referring to anyway, or how do we.

736
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,639
Speaker 2: Set up how do we set up the Bird Thomas

737
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:12,519
Tripple seven podcasts. I would listen to Bird Comedy Hour.

738
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,360
I would I would drop whatever I was doing.

739
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 9: That there's like a fifty to fifty shot that would

740
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,960
either be a conversation about like the most like raunchy,

741
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,119
like horrible slot culture from the twentieth century or a

742
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,199
very aeradyte discussion of like tomistic philosophy. And genuinely I'm

743
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:36,000
not sure which one it would be, and I think

744
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:38,920
that would make it interesting. But in all seriously, because.

745
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:39,639
Speaker 2: You get both.

746
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:46,199
Speaker 9: As someone's who's built a middling online business over mixing

747
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,159
incredible series incredibly stupid topics together, there is an audience

748
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:52,920
for it. But to get back to the subject of hand,

749
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,480
that idea of pushing the enemy they wish to fight,

750
00:48:57,159 --> 00:49:02,199
I think is an interesting one. And look like I'm

751
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,800
always interested to see that pattern repeated, like one of

752
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,559
the examples that I don't want to just love bombs. Yeah, yeah,

753
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:13,559
actually that's a that's a very good one, right, this

754
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,760
sort of like cartoonishly racist figure. You know, who's whose odious?

755
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,599
You know, just kind of on on like first lift.

756
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:25,000
Another one I would say is Alex Jones, right, someone

757
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:28,280
who did genuine rapporting on something like uh, you know,

758
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:33,440
Bohemian Grove and in many cases is not is directionally

759
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:38,960
completely correct, but he becomes the you know, they're turning

760
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,920
the frogs gay, which is I mean not literally true,

761
00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:44,719
but there are chemicals in the water that are doing

762
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,840
weird things to the reproduction of frogs. It's just when

763
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,079
you get a fat man to get red in the

764
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:54,280
face and chimp out while screaming about it, that becomes

765
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,679
a ridiculous thing to say.

766
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: And look what, look what, Nick, this is kind of done.

767
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:04,800
Since his elevation, he has kind of cucked on you

768
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,840
know a lot of things about you know, remigration, things

769
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,599
like that, but he's kept the one thing he's kept

770
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:21,119
steady is you know this combative nature with the neo

771
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,000
konoccupied government and its nature, but at the same time

772
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:30,239
attacking late you know, people like Marjorie Taylor Green, which

773
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:37,480
is it's just very illogical behavior. Right. So, like I

774
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:41,559
think my first podcast appearance with you, we talked about

775
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:47,119
information asymmetry and kind of how like investors think. And

776
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,599
one of the things you do is you got to

777
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:54,760
find out where to look and what information matters. So

778
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,360
if you have a little mental map of how the

779
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,599
world works, how things work, and then you something that

780
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:04,639
makes absolutely no sense, right, like this does not work

781
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:10,039
in my model of things. That means that there is

782
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:15,320
something happening that you don't understand because it obviously is

783
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,760
happening you can see it. So that means there is

784
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,719
a piece of information that you are not aware of,

785
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:24,760
and that tells you where to look because of everything

786
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,519
just operated according to a plan, so to speak. Right,

787
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:30,800
that tells you your model is working. You know all

788
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,039
the things. There's nothing outside of your strategic vintage point

789
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,320
that you need addressing, and there's certain things about how

790
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,920
and what issues or what hills he chooses to die

791
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,679
on that I find incongruous. It's the same thing with

792
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,800
the woke right, Like, Okay, this is a term without

793
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,639
a definition. It is laughably bad and it is happening

794
00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:01,559
at the eddy of these people's particular, these messengers' credibility.

795
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,519
So why like this does not make sense in my model,

796
00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:09,960
And I think there is a lot with the people

797
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,400
who have kind of become the scapecoat.

798
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Speaker 2: So to speak of this woke, right, miss, If you

817
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:11,920
can't attack Tucker, which you can't, He's the most popular

818
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,360
media figure literally in the world right now. And you

819
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,639
can't attack the Vice president of the United States, right

820
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,039
even though you know he may have these ideas in private,

821
00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:27,440
there is no evidence that he has them in public

822
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:29,800
or else you would have made that evidence public already.

823
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,400
You wouldn't have waited this long. You would have done

824
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:38,360
that before he ended up in the VPC. Well, then

825
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:44,159
you need to create people that are attackable, that are odious.

826
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,199
I'm not saying Nicholas J. F went this is one

827
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:52,039
of these people. He probably isn't, right, But if you

828
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:54,599
can't create them, or you don't want to create them,

829
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:57,159
you go out and find them and you elevate them.

830
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,360
These people don't have to be in on the plan,

831
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:04,000
right Donald Trump doesn't know that, you know he Donald

832
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,880
Trump isn't part of the Let's Tank. The twenty twenty

833
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,360
six election plan. I mean, maybe he's aware of it

834
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,199
now that he wants to fire Susie Wiles before New

835
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,920
Year's But only person you needed in that entire administration

836
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,360
to know the plan was Susie Wiles. Everybody else is

837
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,159
just muddling through it, you know, doing their day to day,

838
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:34,440
none the wiser. So anybody from Candice Owens to Fluentez

839
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:37,519
doesn't actually have to be privy to this or in

840
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:39,960
on it in any way for it to work.

841
00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:47,079
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think there's something to that as you sort

842
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:55,159
of round out the sclur. There's somebody else to ask you, because.

843
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: We should talk about Marjorie Taylor Green resigning and all

844
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,119
of the other Republican congressmen saying that they're going to resign. Yeah,

845
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,079
I think this actually further proves your idea that they're

846
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:10,719
trying to get out ahead of it, which means we

847
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,920
need to get out of ahead of it too.

848
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 9: And actually, so I'll just rant for a little bit

849
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,800
while you go fix that. For those who aren't aware,

850
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,119
Marjorie Taylor Green has announced she will be resigning effective

851
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:30,639
January some thinks of next year, and initially it's kind

852
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:32,360
of confusing, right, You're trying to figure out, like what's

853
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,880
going on here because she has been feuding with the president,

854
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,119
particularly over Israel. Look, I find Marjorie Taylor Green to

855
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:46,119
be particularly irritating, so I am far from her greatest fan.

856
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:49,679
But I didn't really think anything of it until I

857
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,599
saw a tweet from Christopher Sandbatch, who is uniquely insightful,

858
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:58,400
and he basically said horrible paraphrase. His version of this

859
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,400
was much more intelligent. She has the best advisors ever.

860
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,320
Her advisors see what's happening, that the Republican Party is

861
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,320
going to crash, and she will be able to insulate

862
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,199
herself from that, let the dust settle, and then come

863
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:20,679
back in untarred by that disaster. So basically, she's taking

864
00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:24,199
a payday. She's going to go out, get on the podcast,

865
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,639
you know, get some money, pick her feet up, and

866
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:31,159
then wait. Now, look, she's making a bet there. It's

867
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:33,480
not a sure thing, but I think it's a good bet.

868
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,440
And I think that the reason other people, and this

869
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,800
is rumored, right, we don't have anyone who signed their

870
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:41,280
line of their name on the dotted line and said

871
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:47,079
I'm out is basically a desire to skip out on

872
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:50,280
the bloodbath basically to take your ball and go home

873
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,960
and survive to fight another day. So that's what I

874
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,679
think is going on there, Stormy.

875
00:56:56,679 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: You can't blame it on the woke right in Congress,

876
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,079
the America First Group hold on.

877
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,679
Speaker 9: Right. You can't blame it on the wolk right if

878
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,920
the Wolke right's gone.

879
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,679
Speaker 2: And so I think that if picks up its ball

880
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,760
and goes home beforehand, which I think gives us a OK.

881
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,360
This is another thing. There are certain other people in

882
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,360
our spheres that I don't know if you've noticed, but

883
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,159
they try and push a blinding allegiance to Trump right,

884
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:34,159
the refusal for anybody to get off the reservation. And

885
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:37,719
I think the purpose of that is to keep you

886
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,320
here for the blood path, because that's necessary. If you

887
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,400
picked up your ball and went home, then they can't

888
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:49,360
use you as a scapegoat. You can't. It doesn't work.

889
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:53,159
You have to be part of the Trump coalition for

890
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,480
the Trump Coalition to crash and burn. If you are

891
00:57:56,559 --> 00:58:00,519
off the plantation, then they can't blame it on you,

892
00:58:01,519 --> 00:58:04,679
and it is vital that they do. So I think

893
00:58:05,639 --> 00:58:09,880
I think the loyalty, so to speak, is the Trump

894
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,880
loyalty enforcers the people that are very intent on everyone

895
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:18,000
staying on the Trump train no matter what. And if

896
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,280
you criticize the administration in any way, then you know

897
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,159
you're disloyal. You're part of the problem. I think those

898
00:58:28,199 --> 00:58:29,760
guys are going to get us in a lot of

899
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,360
trouble because I think we should be taking Marjorie Taylor

900
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,960
Green's lead. And I think it's going to involve us

901
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:42,800
actually like making that decision consciously because not a lot

902
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,239
of people are going to want to do it. It's

903
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:49,039
going to seem really disloyal. But this takes their ball

904
00:58:49,079 --> 00:58:51,760
away from them.

905
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,039
Speaker 9: Well, and to that point, we already saw this happen

906
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:01,159
in the UK with the No Seats movement basically desire

907
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:05,000
to punish the Conservative Party by giving them nothing, by

908
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:10,119
taking away everything from them. Uh, and look like reform

909
00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:13,559
is certainly compromised. You know, they have their own allegiances

910
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:16,320
and I think Nigel Farage is too much of a boomer.

911
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,480
But it basically has majorly changed the political landscape. All right,

912
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:25,239
fair enough, Uh, one thing stormy and then I'll let

913
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:31,320
you go. People responded to a lot of your commentary

914
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,960
about Trump from a year ago, basically saying that you

915
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:38,719
were the you know, the plan Truster in chief, you

916
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,239
had sort of this like your unrealistic, you know, over

917
00:59:42,639 --> 00:59:47,039
overly positive view of the of the Trump administration, particularly

918
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:50,199
as regards his relationship to the State of Israel. So

919
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:52,760
obviously you and I have been talking the entire times

920
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,880
if I'm aware of the the nuance of your position.

921
00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:57,800
But uh, first, I guess would say, like, how do

922
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,880
you respond to those allegations? And two do you think

923
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,639
there's anything that you you got wrong?

924
01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 17: There?

925
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 9: Stormy, you're muted.

926
01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:14,679
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was just switching headphones there for a second,

927
01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:22,559
battery was dying. So with Trump, it seems to be

928
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,280
bearing out right. So what I've what I was hoping for,

929
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,239
is that our coalition would have been right.

930
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,719
Speaker 9: So, oh, Stormy, and for you on you just started

931
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:34,519
roboting hard.

932
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I switched. I switched. Mike's How does it

933
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:38,440
sound now?

934
01:00:39,079 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 9: Oh you're good, You're good. I just wanted to let

935
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,840
you know before you went on a rat that sounded

936
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,559
like megatrone.

937
01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:48,159
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay. So what I was hoping for

938
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:52,039
is doesn't seem to be what we're getting. And what

939
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:56,360
I what I mean by that is so prior to

940
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,599
my uh, my statements about the Trump admin for a

941
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:03,400
long time, when when Trump was not in powered it

942
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,719
was Joe Biden. Land was that there the power structure

943
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,400
is not a monolith, right, that there are factions within it.

944
01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:16,679
This seems obvious now, but three years ago, two years ago,

945
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,000
it very much was not obvious. And you know, thankfully

946
01:01:20,119 --> 01:01:26,039
academic agent has come over to my line of thinking

947
01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:32,840
that there are clearly factions fighting for the Trump administration, right,

948
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:40,480
fighting for control of Trump. And I was hoping, especially

949
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,280
in the first sixty to ninety days, that our faction

950
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,440
was winning out. When I say our faction, like, none

951
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,920
of these guys are really our faction, right, but they're

952
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,920
different and they don't hate us, which I can work with, right.

953
01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:02,599
So I mean people view politics in our sphere, which

954
01:02:02,639 --> 01:02:08,800
is very confusing the same way voters do, right, like, oh,

955
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,639
this is a politician, and I support this guy and

956
01:02:11,679 --> 01:02:14,039
not that guy. When it comes to president of the

957
01:02:14,159 --> 01:02:18,119
United States. It's not a man at all, right, he

958
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,320
is just a figurehead for hundreds and hundreds of people

959
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:28,960
and dozens of interest groups. So inside the Trump administration,

960
01:02:29,719 --> 01:02:33,960
unlike in the Joe Biden administration, I saw conflict, right,

961
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:38,400
People jostling for control of the microphone, which was the

962
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,400
first I had seen that in at least in my lifetime,

963
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:50,480
right where it wasn't unified neo con Reich. And it

964
01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:56,960
seems that, well, that is true our faction, at least

965
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,760
as it is now. When I say our faction, I'll

966
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,800
just same faction. The faction I was hoping to come

967
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:08,519
out on top. Doesn't seem to be so with Trump.

968
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,159
You get jd Vance, you get Elon, you get fel

969
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,960
you get Musk, Right, these people are obviously different people.

970
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:23,559
You get Tucker. These are different people than Mark Levin,

971
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:32,199
Susie Wiles, Mike Huckabee, people like that they're both in

972
01:03:32,239 --> 01:03:37,039
the same administration. Right, So plan trusting is kind of

973
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:42,039
stupid because it connotates that Donald Trump, the man, is

974
01:03:42,119 --> 01:03:49,840
the person that you're trusting blindly. The guy basically doesn't exist,

975
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,760
as Susie Wiles can show you with just by controlling

976
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,239
who the dude meets with, you can basically control what

977
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,920
he says. And this is why the commentary out of

978
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:07,079
the Trump administration has shifted really really far the other direction,

979
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,320
and not a really great direction. So, yeah, my initial

980
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,760
enthusiasm about the Trump administration was for the very first

981
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,679
time you had people there that had an opposite agenda.

982
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:23,360
Would those people come out on top? I don't know.

983
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:27,239
I mean, as of right now, it looks like the

984
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,119
Neocon team is taking tons of l's and there were

985
01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:32,519
a lot of ws that these guys got in early on.

986
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:35,440
There's the same people that told me I was a plan.

987
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,519
Truster also told me that we were going to war

988
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:41,159
with Iran and it was beyond a shadow of a doubt.

989
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,119
Things are already happening, were basically on the ground already,

990
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,800
and now here we are eight months into the Great

991
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:54,800
American Iranian War. There are hundreds of thousands of men

992
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,159
killed on both No, none of that happened. None of

993
01:04:57,159 --> 01:05:03,840
it did, And if their own reporting is to be believed,

994
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:07,320
it was people like JD. Vance Hegeseth and Charlie Kirk

995
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:08,440
that made that not happen.

996
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,119
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1006
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1007
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1008
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trigger asthma and lead to serious illness. So if you're

1009
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,480
going to light a fire in your home, makes sure to.

1010
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:01,599
Speaker 4: Use low smoke fuel.

1011
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 12: Oh and never wing at burning rubbish.

1012
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:07,239
Speaker 13: Choosing low smoke fuel is better for all of us.

1013
01:06:07,639 --> 01:06:09,039
Speaker 4: It's clear the air for everyone.

1014
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 13: And remember to clean chimneys and heating appliances at least

1015
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:12,480
once a year.

1016
01:06:12,679 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 4: Brought to you by the government of.

1017
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:21,199
Speaker 2: Ardens against almost insurmountable pressure to make that happen. Like

1018
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,880
you want to know why he got all those neocon bucks,

1019
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,719
Well it was for that, and that didn't happen. That

1020
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:34,280
was the only ask of the Trump administration by the

1021
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,000
Middle Eastern democracy fans, all right, was to turn the

1022
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:40,639
other way on a war that was already happening in Gaza,

1023
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,960
all right, and you need to do war and Iran,

1024
01:06:44,159 --> 01:06:46,239
you need to take out our only regional competitor. We've

1025
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,119
been waiting a very long time and that didn't happen.

1026
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:56,239
The other thing that was supposed to happen but didn't

1027
01:06:57,519 --> 01:07:02,360
was we were supposed to go to war in Ukraine

1028
01:07:02,519 --> 01:07:07,480
and that didn't happen either. So, I mean, we did

1029
01:07:07,519 --> 01:07:11,880
take a lot of l's recently. I'm really thankful that

1030
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,679
at least the initial you know, the faction that I

1031
01:07:15,719 --> 01:07:20,760
was hoping could do a lot in the first ninety days,

1032
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,679
they did, And if anything else, just them keeping us

1033
01:07:24,679 --> 01:07:32,239
out of Iran is good, frankly. But I think I

1034
01:07:32,239 --> 01:07:34,639
think what's going to come next is going to really

1035
01:07:35,559 --> 01:07:37,639
because the one thing that we didn't talk about is

1036
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,239
how metastable is this?

1037
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 9: Right?

1038
01:07:41,519 --> 01:07:45,559
Speaker 2: We have a very tentative tug of war session happening

1039
01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:51,159
right now over the heart of the administration. But what

1040
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,119
happens if there's any type of pronounced crisis, like let's

1041
01:07:54,119 --> 01:08:00,920
say a financial one. What happens then? How stable or

1042
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,360
durable is either of these power structures? We know what

1043
01:08:04,679 --> 01:08:08,159
one power structure will do. You know, we watched it

1044
01:08:08,199 --> 01:08:13,199
in two thousand and eight, But what about this new faction, Like,

1045
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,960
I ah, it's it's kind of it's kind of exciting

1046
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:25,800
because I don't think the Shapiro Leven Coalition has the

1047
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:31,880
ability of surviving any any type of crisis. I think

1048
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,880
the American people are hurting so much to a point

1049
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:39,279
now where if anything tips further and makes that situation worse,

1050
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,880
I think it'll be catastrophic for them.

1051
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:51,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think there's something to that. Effectively that their

1052
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,760
their dominance was dependent on an immense amount of surplus

1053
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,319
in this system. It was dependent on people, you know,

1054
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,479
generally feeling like we're trending up in the right direction

1055
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,520
and look like I think it's important to to recognize

1056
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,319
and a lot of people from bath Boomers get this wrong.

1057
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,560
We gotta understand that the people in that generation, despite

1058
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,439
being relatively wealthy, now lit through a lot of troubling

1059
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,199
economic times. Right the seventies weren't particularly pleasant to put

1060
01:09:20,199 --> 01:09:22,800
it mildly, either, they're the rough purd in the nineties.

1061
01:09:23,039 --> 01:09:26,880
Another you know, obviously the dot com you know, crash

1062
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:30,880
two thousand and eight, and so like you know, obviously

1063
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,680
each one of those was individually nasty but from talking

1064
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,640
to people who lived through it, there was never really

1065
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,079
this feeling that like, oh, the walls are really coming

1066
01:09:43,239 --> 01:09:45,359
or the walls are sort of coming in, the wheels

1067
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:50,199
are coming off, like America is on the ropes pro

1068
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,680
and yeah, And additionally, I think that there's another thing

1069
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,920
to be said for the fact that, like when we

1070
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,359
talk about houses, and you and I have been talking

1071
01:09:59,399 --> 01:10:03,600
about this story, this is maybe a discussion for another day.

1072
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,920
Housing houses, like owning a house is sort of a

1073
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,560
totem of a bunch of other things. What it really

1074
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,720
means is will I be able to beat like a

1075
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,359
respectable member of society with something at stake? Is there

1076
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,279
some way I can index myself so that I have

1077
01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:25,319
a stake in the system as it exists. That's just

1078
01:10:25,399 --> 01:10:28,000
off the table for a large number of people. And

1079
01:10:28,039 --> 01:10:31,359
that's a very real problem because before there was always

1080
01:10:31,399 --> 01:10:35,159
the combined carrot and stick of like, well, yeah, we

1081
01:10:35,279 --> 01:10:38,680
will both. You know, you're you have the opportunity to retire,

1082
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,000
you know, you have benefits, you have things that sort

1083
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,640
of keep you on the straight and narrow, and also

1084
01:10:44,399 --> 01:10:46,560
you know you have a lot to lose. And I

1085
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,680
think the problem is, and look, I'm not talking about

1086
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,640
some sort of seventeen seventy six will commence again. But

1087
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,960
the problem is it's like, look like when the consequences

1088
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,880
for being goss, when the consequences for being you know,

1089
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,800
socially ostracized by kuning get lower because people simply have

1090
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:08,239
less to lose, that that soft power goes away, the

1091
01:11:08,279 --> 01:11:12,319
power of bribery goes away, And uh yeah to me,

1092
01:11:12,399 --> 01:11:17,439
I think that ultimately these people are floundering, especially this

1093
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,079
this kind of bastardized conservative.

1094
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: Movement, if demand control going well.

1095
01:11:26,079 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 9: To just also do to the fact that they're all

1096
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:32,560
mentally challenged. Like Mark Levin is not a capable political operator.

1097
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,840
He's a raving lunatic. And to your point, he keeps

1098
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:41,399
saying things that Joseph Gebels couldn't pay him to set voluntarily.

1099
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,000
It's like that old, that old meme, right, you know,

1100
01:11:45,079 --> 01:11:47,520
reacting to the Sewer tunnels where it says, you know,

1101
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,640
Gerbels couldn't have made this with a billion dollars. You're

1102
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,439
joking about the you know the nature of that propaganda.

1103
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,279
And I think that that is another problem for them.

1104
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: So they demand to stay in charge at the same

1105
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:08,199
time as they demand that they should not be expected

1106
01:12:08,199 --> 01:12:13,960
to have a solution. It's fundamentally unworkable and to real quick.

1107
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:21,119
As far as predictions that I did get right the

1108
01:12:21,159 --> 01:12:25,520
housing market situation, I mean two years ago. I think

1109
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:30,079
actually when you and I first started talking privately, I

1110
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:34,119
talked about at a certain in about two or three years,

1111
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,119
there is not going to be enough boomers to support

1112
01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:43,359
the housing market, right, So you have a functional problem, like, yes,

1113
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,279
the boomers are spending through your inheritance, but they're not

1114
01:12:47,279 --> 01:12:48,680
going to be able to spend through all of it,

1115
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,079
even though it may seem that way. Cruise after cruise

1116
01:12:51,159 --> 01:12:55,520
or whatever else they do, Margueritaville, it doesn't fucking matter, right,

1117
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,199
they're going to pass on some form of wealth to you.

1118
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,640
A lot of the now that we fucking know, one

1119
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:10,920
hundred million people have landed on our shores illegally and

1120
01:13:11,039 --> 01:13:15,399
legally in the last twenty years. That's literally one third

1121
01:13:15,399 --> 01:13:20,920
of the population. One third, Right. These people haven't been

1122
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,319
here long enough to accumulate assets, and what dollars they

1123
01:13:25,359 --> 01:13:27,880
have been able to scrape together, they send back home

1124
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:33,560
because they're not fucking from here. So that means that

1125
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,680
there's going to be a bit of a generational turnover. Right,

1126
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:42,680
so the existing Americans, the real Americans, they will be

1127
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:52,840
inheriting either wealth or assets, and a large portion of Americans,

1128
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,000
literally one third, are not going to have it. They're

1129
01:13:56,039 --> 01:14:02,039
not going to have that happen. So something happens to

1130
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:06,239
asset prices when like let's say, right now, if you

1131
01:14:06,279 --> 01:14:13,279
go to native born Americans of your generation, all right,

1132
01:14:13,319 --> 01:14:16,840
this kind of hides in the statistics. It was really

1133
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:21,039
hard for me to suss out because the census, when

1134
01:14:21,039 --> 01:14:27,000
it talks about population numbers, it lumps everyone in together.

1135
01:14:27,119 --> 01:14:29,079
So if I want to go like what is the percentage,

1136
01:14:29,159 --> 01:14:32,279
like how many gen zers are there? How many boomers

1137
01:14:32,319 --> 01:14:36,000
are there, how many millennials are there? It doesn't let

1138
01:14:36,039 --> 01:14:42,279
me break down those cohorts ethnically. That took a lot

1139
01:14:42,279 --> 01:14:48,640
of work, but was able to do it. And there

1140
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,199
is five times as many foreign a quarter times as

1141
01:14:52,199 --> 01:14:58,279
many boomers as there are born Americans. People like you

1142
01:14:58,319 --> 01:15:06,119
and me, Well, that's a problem because how do you

1143
01:15:06,199 --> 01:15:09,000
sell four and a quarter houses to a single person?

1144
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,279
You don't, right, One or two things have to happen.

1145
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:20,159
Either that person spontaneously turns into four people, or the

1146
01:15:20,199 --> 01:15:22,840
price you are asking to sell your house has to

1147
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:27,279
be reduced by a factor of three people. Right, So

1148
01:15:27,319 --> 01:15:32,279
it's either sixty percent marked down, seventy percent markedown, or

1149
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:39,039
three people spontaneously appear. And the problem with the importing

1150
01:15:39,079 --> 01:15:42,840
people to spontaneously make them a peer route is those

1151
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,680
people actually don't accumulate enough capital to buy shit. That's

1152
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:52,079
a problem. So the other thing, I mean, this just

1153
01:15:52,079 --> 01:15:55,920
sounds like, oh, it's boomer house prices. But Jay, you

1154
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,880
don't know a lot about finance, but you know enough

1155
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,880
what happens to mortgages. They get put into you know,

1156
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,880
books with hundreds of other mortgages, and they get sold

1157
01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:10,920
as assets called mortgage backed securities. Two things hold up

1158
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:21,119
the financial market mortgage backed securities and treasuries. Well, if

1159
01:16:21,119 --> 01:16:23,199
we know mortgage backed securities are about to be real

1160
01:16:23,239 --> 01:16:28,760
fucked up, pardon my fringe. What about treasuries? One here

1161
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,760
lies another problem and one that I didn't want to

1162
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,119
talk to about, to you briefly about it. So this

1163
01:16:34,199 --> 01:16:35,479
is a good at place as any and I'd like

1164
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,000
to get your thoughts and we can close on that.

1165
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,239
The other one is treasury bonds. Everyone should get a

1166
01:16:42,319 --> 01:16:44,359
chance to hold a treasury bill at least once in

1167
01:16:44,399 --> 01:16:49,199
their life. They are very very very pretty IOUs. I

1168
01:16:49,239 --> 01:16:52,079
mean they have gold leaf and silver leaf and it's

1169
01:16:52,199 --> 01:16:58,640
really nice. But on them it says that it's backed up. Right,

1170
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:03,800
So this, this IOU is backed by the future tax

1171
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:12,520
revenue of the United States. Okay, well who's that? And

1172
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:17,680
in this h one be you know, tumult in the

1173
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:23,600
snap benefit tumult and really the state of the discourse

1174
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:28,399
the last three or four months a lot of information

1175
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:35,239
about who is a taker and who is a maker

1176
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:39,000
in the economy. So who takes tax dollars who makes them?

1177
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:44,359
And it just so happens, Jay, that eighty two percent

1178
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:50,000
of all tax revenue collected by the United States comes

1179
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,640
from men that look like you and me and no

1180
01:17:51,680 --> 01:18:00,439
one else. So at what point do men you and

1181
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:06,239
me say, well, okay, you blew up the Republican Party.

1182
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,880
These other people hate me, and no matter who gets

1183
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,960
into government, my government is going to hate me. Why

1184
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,520
do I continue funding this.

1185
01:18:19,079 --> 01:18:22,520
Speaker 7: Ice skating dot Ie has Christmas in mind. Dublin's most

1186
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,479
loved ice skating the finest you'll find Blanchardstown and Dunleary

1187
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,199
is where we will meet with family and friends for

1188
01:18:29,279 --> 01:18:33,000
the best Christmas treat for last minute shoppers, We'll save

1189
01:18:33,039 --> 01:18:36,079
you ahore, get an ice skating gift card for those

1190
01:18:36,159 --> 01:18:40,279
you adore. Dublin's favorite ice skating experiences are waiting for

1191
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:44,439
you with extended opening hours over Christmas in Blanchetstown and Dunleary.

1192
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,880
Buy tickets and gift cards now at Ice Skating dot Ie.

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01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,319
Speaker 19: At Christmas, visit to Dondrum with mam Stuff followed than

1194
01:18:52,399 --> 01:18:54,880
Santa Sac. On the twenty fourth at the ice rinks,

1195
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,119
she's clutching the edge. Well, my little one is lapping

1196
01:18:57,239 --> 01:19:00,720
us and Brown Thomas's spraying the perfumes around like fresheners.

1197
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,640
We do Harvey Nichols and always reaes m Ands. She

1198
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,039
gets her browsed one at Edvard and pink talk about

1199
01:19:06,039 --> 01:19:08,840
a new face. Then it's Katsus and Wagamama and a

1200
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,560
Hansel and Gretel Panto at the Mile Theater. Later I

1201
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,439
drop her home and Mom says, thank you, pet. Best

1202
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,880
day out in ages, search Dondrum Town Center and make

1203
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,720
a day of it this Christmas.

1204
01:19:21,399 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 2: Because if the white guys stop paying taxes, just like

1205
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:32,000
that mortgage backed security market. Yes, the government grinds to

1206
01:19:32,079 --> 01:19:35,199
a halt, but all of a sudden, the US treasuries

1207
01:19:35,239 --> 01:19:38,840
have no value, and that's what the global financial system

1208
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,600
runs on. So what I've been thinking about more and

1209
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:47,640
more is the pocket veto that we have. And this

1210
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:52,880
is why it took only like crisis for that information

1211
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,079
to come out of who actually pays the fucking dolls?

1212
01:19:58,079 --> 01:20:00,720
And if you go and you build the higher global

1213
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:05,760
financial system on those bills, you have created a leverage

1214
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:12,319
point for people like me and you like, fine, you

1215
01:20:12,399 --> 01:20:15,840
can basically nuke all of our people that we want

1216
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,359
in office. You can Charlie Kirk the ones you don't cancel,

1217
01:20:22,119 --> 01:20:28,119
you can deny us representation. But at the end of

1218
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:32,960
the day, all of this stops tomorrow if we simply

1219
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,319
just don't open our checkbook.

1220
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, so there are several things there. I mean, I

1221
01:20:44,039 --> 01:20:46,600
think that that is when we're talking about the deal

1222
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,039
being offered sort of what we're talking about. This is

1223
01:20:50,079 --> 01:20:53,119
something that you know, Dave Green's mentioned multiple tients, you know,

1224
01:20:53,159 --> 01:20:54,960
when talking to people like this, He's like, all right,

1225
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,520
just tell me what deal we're offering me, because what

1226
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,600
it basically sounds like the deal is for you and

1227
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,880
I it is basically we're going to take your money,

1228
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,479
use it for the benefit of other people, all while

1229
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,600
discriminating against you and your children for the crime of

1230
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:22,359
being productive members of society. Oh yeah, and also a

1231
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,720
large portion of that is it even unproductive members of

1232
01:21:26,039 --> 01:21:32,640
your own society. But another one right halfway across the world. Now, look,

1233
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,199
there are few things as dangerous to suggest as a

1234
01:21:36,279 --> 01:21:40,560
tex rebellion. Right, that's a very very good way to

1235
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:41,640
get a knock on the door.

1236
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: But and I don't think that's what we should do,

1237
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,479
but just simply just reminding voters of it or reminding

1238
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:49,439
legislators of it.

1239
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 9: Well, and I think that this is something we've already

1240
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:57,920
seen with We've already seen with the tech crowd.

1241
01:21:58,399 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 10: Right.

1242
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 9: Why is Silicon Valley invested in right wing politics? Because,

1243
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,800
to be honest, the left started being so retarded that

1244
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,039
it became very unlikely that you could continue to be

1245
01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:10,000
a tech billionaire if they were.

1246
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: In trunle exactly exactly.

1247
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 9: And I think that that is very much, you know,

1248
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,840
a possible situation that that same idea will spread to

1249
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,319
other sections of industry. Now, I will say, and you

1250
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:26,600
and I have spoken about the UK at length before,

1251
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,159
it's a whole hell of a lot worse there, and

1252
01:22:30,199 --> 01:22:33,399
those rich people haven't gotten to that point yet, right,

1253
01:22:33,399 --> 01:22:36,000
they've fled the country, which we may start to see

1254
01:22:36,039 --> 01:22:36,439
as well.

1255
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: Well, you can't if you're a US person. That's the thing.

1256
01:22:41,239 --> 01:22:43,359
The US is a tax haven for the rest of

1257
01:22:43,399 --> 01:22:46,279
the world. But if you make your money in the US,

1258
01:22:47,239 --> 01:22:50,079
you don't get to leave. The US will chase you

1259
01:22:51,119 --> 01:22:58,039
to every corner of the world. So what exactly The

1260
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:03,199
US is a roach motel right for money? And I'm

1261
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:06,199
dead serious, Like right now, if I have a I

1262
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:08,079
have a friend in Hong Kong, let's say, who wants

1263
01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:10,840
to give me one hundred million dollars as like a

1264
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,119
wedding present or something like that. He can give me

1265
01:23:14,159 --> 01:23:17,319
one hundred million dollars and I will pay zero tax

1266
01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:20,079
on it. I say to the government, say, it's called

1267
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:23,039
the foreign Gift tax tax exemption. You can look it up,

1268
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,920
use it. You can go and say, hey, mister government,

1269
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:33,960
I've gotten one hundred million dollars for free from someone

1270
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,640
else far away. How much do I owe you. Government's

1271
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,279
going to say, no, nothing, because it wants to put

1272
01:23:40,359 --> 01:23:47,800
zero barriers between money coming in the system. But if

1273
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,239
you ever try and take it out or you try

1274
01:23:51,239 --> 01:23:55,239
and move it somewhere else, then all hell breaks loose.

1275
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,359
So it is quite literally a roach motel for money.

1276
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,680
Money can I'm in no problem at all, But when

1277
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,960
money tries to leave, the US government will chase you

1278
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:11,760
to the end of the earth, ask Roger Verair. So

1279
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,319
our real people don't have that option. They're trapped in

1280
01:24:15,399 --> 01:24:16,720
here with us.

1281
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,279
Speaker 9: So who knows, right, genuinely, who knows on that front?

1282
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:27,000
I mean, I think that the the the ultimate problem

1283
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:33,239
of scale accurate right there, there's just simply too many takers,

1284
01:24:33,239 --> 01:24:36,520
too few producers, with the kind of like welfare Ponzi

1285
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:40,359
scheme let alone. Right as regards the welfarees that the

1286
01:24:40,359 --> 01:24:46,359
boomers benefit from, things like you know, obviously healthcare for seniors,

1287
01:24:46,359 --> 01:24:51,239
but also social Security, and that becomes particularly poignant if

1288
01:24:51,279 --> 01:24:54,159
we do see a massive correction in real estate, because

1289
01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:56,439
let's be honest, for the average boomer, seventy percent of

1290
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:00,000
their net worth is in their houps. And yeah, sure

1291
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,640
there is those who squandered at on cruises and the like.

1292
01:25:04,079 --> 01:25:06,720
But the idea that you're going to fund an additional

1293
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,479
you know, the twenty years of life on thirty percent

1294
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,920
of your net worth, well, all of a sudden, those

1295
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,840
government programs become very very important. You know, that's not

1296
01:25:17,039 --> 01:25:19,840
like icing on the cake, that is, do you do

1297
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,680
you survive? So, I mean I think that that is

1298
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,720
that's sort of a catabolic I guess decay. I mean,

1299
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,479
there's definitely something to it. I like I said, I

1300
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,239
don't know enough about finance like that. I find the

1301
01:25:34,239 --> 01:25:38,800
picture you're painting to me to be convincing, But like

1302
01:25:39,359 --> 01:25:42,960
it's not my it's not my day.

1303
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 2: I mean, just the same number of obligations you have

1304
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,760
to reduce you want people to reduce them head counts

1305
01:25:50,199 --> 01:25:54,760
right now, right, you're you're basically as the boomers go away.

1306
01:25:55,199 --> 01:25:58,039
I mean boomers still have to pay taxes on Social Security.

1307
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,000
You get a social scuritych I. You have to paid

1308
01:26:00,039 --> 01:26:02,800
taxes on it. All their money and their retirement fund,

1309
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:07,840
their IRA, they're four one k when they take it out,

1310
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,119
they have to pay taxes on it. Capital gains.

1311
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:15,039
Speaker 9: Sorry, which admitted that you and I pay, But like

1312
01:26:15,079 --> 01:26:16,800
that's still as that you pay.

1313
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all my money is capital gains.

1314
01:26:22,199 --> 01:26:25,319
Speaker 9: But yes, and all of mine is ten ninety nine.

1315
01:26:26,119 --> 01:26:29,800
Boy do I really love paying like a TAXI?

1316
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 2: Yes, nothing nothing gets nobody gets fucked in the American system,

1317
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,399
like the small business owner, Oh.

1318
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 9: Did you try and do what you're supposed to do

1319
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:46,000
and better yourself and build something? Well, guess what, get ready,

1320
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,399
we're going to collect our pound to flesh.

1321
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 2: But oh, you really start your own business. We're going

1322
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,880
to make it impossible for you to get a mortgage.

1323
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I mean to that to that point, Stormy,

1324
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,840
But couldn't you also say that is a actively been

1325
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:05,039
the chamber of converse Republican Party like for a long time,

1326
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:09,039
like I'm being taken out of racial terms, but still

1327
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:15,800
like you small business American, that's a new euphemism. You

1328
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:20,000
small business American. You are being screwed. Let's go in

1329
01:27:20,039 --> 01:27:22,560
there and smash up welfare. And I mean, look like

1330
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,920
you could even say look at Dose right, which was

1331
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,760
shuttered today officially, like that was that was an extension

1332
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,119
of that same idea of like, well, we'll go in

1333
01:27:31,119 --> 01:27:34,039
there with an AX and start cutting. Like I'm not

1334
01:27:34,119 --> 01:27:37,880
saying that that isn't an accurate feeling, but like I

1335
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,720
don't know if that will produce dramatic electoral results just

1336
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,600
because we've seen that experiment run.

1337
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,279
Speaker 2: Before now and if the boomers die off, just like

1338
01:27:47,319 --> 01:27:51,760
the housing prices, their tax dollars stop going in the machine,

1339
01:27:53,159 --> 01:27:56,319
so they're on a time clock. No matter what, right,

1340
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,760
you can't support the massive welfare state, and you can't

1341
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:04,720
suppport all these people here that are basically dependents. You

1342
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,760
could with the boomers, you know, cashing out the four

1343
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,800
oh one K. Only the four oh one K is

1344
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,039
intaxable on its way up.

1345
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 10: Right.

1346
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,119
Speaker 2: It allows you to make money in your four oh

1347
01:28:16,119 --> 01:28:19,279
one K provided you don't ever take it out until

1348
01:28:19,279 --> 01:28:21,479
you're retired. But then when you take it out to

1349
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,000
live on in retirement, right, then you are taxed on

1350
01:28:25,079 --> 01:28:28,239
it as if it's money you made yesterday. So all

1351
01:28:28,279 --> 01:28:31,359
of these boomers in retirement are quite literally keeping the

1352
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,720
stock market where it is right, they're paying the bill,

1353
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:38,920
they're paying taxes along with working white people. So as

1354
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:43,520
the boomers die off, there simply isn't enough of us.

1355
01:28:45,279 --> 01:28:47,960
Even if we I mean, this is like the I

1356
01:28:48,039 --> 01:28:50,039
wasn't inside of a tax rebellion. I think that would

1357
01:28:50,079 --> 01:28:54,760
be kind of libertarian and unfortunate. If that's actually what

1358
01:28:55,079 --> 01:28:58,960
got people to you know, toss off the regime, that

1359
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,720
would be really gay. But there it just points out

1360
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,439
to a problem. There is not enough of us there

1361
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:11,399
simply isn't if the government if sorry, if the boomers

1362
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:15,680
go away, as they are at an exponentially growing rate,

1363
01:29:16,399 --> 01:29:20,760
their tax dollars go away, their consumption tax dollars go away,

1364
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:25,840
their consumption period goes away. The only people buying houses

1365
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,399
right now are boomers. The only people buying cars right

1366
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,399
now are boomers. The only people buying new TVs, new refrigerators.

1367
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:36,039
Knew anything else or boomers, And they're going away all right.

1368
01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:39,840
So they're funding the government largely along with us working slaves,

1369
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,079
but they're doing most of the buying. So if you

1370
01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:48,159
have a consumption let economy, you're in a really bad

1371
01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:52,560
place as this goes with this many dependents, right, So

1372
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:59,800
like unless they reverse course, right, unless they allow people

1373
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,319
with our type of politics in because we're the only

1374
01:30:02,359 --> 01:30:06,960
ones advocating for it. That's that tiny group. They only

1375
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,720
care about that place in the Middle East. They will

1376
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:15,159
literally crash and burn this whole thing just to keep

1377
01:30:15,239 --> 01:30:20,199
that flow of capital to their place going. So like

1378
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:22,920
you're talking about about like the tech elites, things like that,

1379
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,840
Like the hour of Decision is kind of coming right,

1380
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,640
Like these group of people will keep out the people

1381
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,119
that want to fix things because those people that want

1382
01:30:34,119 --> 01:30:38,760
to fix things, they they particularly don't want to keep

1383
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,800
funding this other place. So we have to keep them

1384
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:46,279
out because they won't fund this other place. But like

1385
01:30:46,319 --> 01:30:50,279
you said about Mark Levin, these are only serious, unintelligent

1386
01:30:50,359 --> 01:30:53,920
people that only got to where they are through various

1387
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,800
types of nepotism. And you know, like Ben Shapiro, a

1388
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:03,159
very gated, very police sandbox. So they're not people with solutions,

1389
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,079
but it is imperative to them that the people with

1390
01:31:07,239 --> 01:31:14,359
solutions are kept out. And it seems that, I mean,

1391
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,239
I thought it would be Trump and this is a

1392
01:31:16,279 --> 01:31:19,600
big mea culpa for me. I thought it would be

1393
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:24,760
in the lens of the Trump administration that either that

1394
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,000
faction wins out.

1395
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:31,079
Speaker 17: Santa's House Express at Farmerstown House Estate, where Christmas Magic

1396
01:31:31,159 --> 01:31:35,319
comes alive as winter approaches and families gather. Take our

1397
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:39,000
magical train to Santa's Grand manor make a wish on

1398
01:31:39,079 --> 01:31:42,920
the tree, see the magical lights with fun, fir spins

1399
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,319
and festive delights. Bring your loved ones for the most

1400
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,880
magical time of the year. Book your tickets now at

1401
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,279
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1402
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,119
Speaker 20: The weeks before Christmas, I just take time to enjoy

1403
01:31:56,199 --> 01:32:01,560
the present present Shuger. We got London's It's any three

1404
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,640
for five year across urpringles Range gets selected seven up

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Speaker 2: Or the I'm not that that we'll call it tech

1412
01:32:27,359 --> 01:32:34,119
faction wings out, or the foreign nation in the Middle

1413
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:38,600
East becomes so unpalatable it will force a heel turn

1414
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:42,640
in the administration. Because that was my big Trump prediction, right,

1415
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,319
that Trump is going to be the guy that'll be

1416
01:32:46,359 --> 01:32:52,600
like the first president to turn away from Zionism. What

1417
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,760
I didn't basically by the rate at which it's growing

1418
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,720
awareness I guess to the problem, which you can use

1419
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:03,680
like Roger's theorem to track out. But I think it's

1420
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:09,399
gonna be the Congress that it happens and not the presidency.

1421
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,159
Ted Cruz just got booed off stage. Today at a

1422
01:33:14,199 --> 01:33:18,079
fucking at a fundraiser put together for him at a

1423
01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:25,199
Christian university in like Texas or something, right, Like allegiance

1424
01:33:25,239 --> 01:33:35,039
to this state is like is a campaign destroyer. So

1425
01:33:35,119 --> 01:33:36,960
I don't know how that factors in with the whole

1426
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,079
like we're gonna we're gonna tank the midterms on purpose.

1427
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,600
I think it involved. I think that's why Marjorie Taylor

1428
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:49,920
Green and everyone is stepping back. I think to her politically,

1429
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:54,359
like A, it dodges, it dodges the Samson option. But

1430
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:59,720
B when you come back in you can actually talk

1431
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,119
about the stuff you want to talk about, because it

1432
01:34:03,159 --> 01:34:07,359
seems that like I mean, just look at Thomas Massey's success,

1433
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:13,359
him taking a pack zero a pack dollars, He raised

1434
01:34:13,359 --> 01:34:18,119
more money than he's ever raised before. When Miriam Madelson

1435
01:34:18,239 --> 01:34:20,760
and Paul Singer came out of the Zionist came after him,

1436
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:27,159
he raised money from everywhere across the country. Like, I

1437
01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:30,600
think this is going to be a really big thing

1438
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:34,600
in electoral politics. I think allegiance to this place is

1439
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:39,319
going to be career suicide, just like it is in media.

1440
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:46,119
Speaker 9: I mean, look, here's hoping man, were we are well

1441
01:34:46,159 --> 01:34:50,279
over time every time to die now really.

1442
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 2: Say the hours the other day and.

1443
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 9: My wife when you know, like looking out the back

1444
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,920
window watching me, you know, race leads while we were

1445
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,600
talking and he's like, what did you guys talk about?

1446
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,600
And I was like, I don't know, like six different things.

1447
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,720
There's got autism, a brief digression about cars, international finance,

1448
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:17,640
black magic. What didn't we talk about? But in seriousness,

1449
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:22,000
I enjoyed having you on. You have been posting sort

1450
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:25,600
of audio essays to your substack, which I'll be sure

1451
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,520
to do substack as your Twitter. Yeah, yeah you do,

1452
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:33,319
that is actually you, So I'll be sure to link

1453
01:35:33,359 --> 01:35:35,680
to your substack. But yeah, man, thank you so much

1454
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,239
for coming on. Man, this was not an encouraging conversation,

1455
01:35:38,359 --> 01:35:39,359
but I think it interesting one.

1456
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 2: I think I think so really, I mean we're talking

1457
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:46,319
about like this, who was that guy? Who was that

1458
01:35:46,399 --> 01:35:50,000
guy that like set himself on fire for Palestine or whatever?

1459
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 9: Aaron Bushnell.

1460
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 2: We're literally watching all of our enemies Aaron Bushnell themselves.

1461
01:35:59,079 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 9: Which I think it's very funny that apparently the only

1462
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:06,640
people who remember Aaron Buschelle, it's the only right, Like

1463
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:08,439
we're the ones who still make fun of him. But

1464
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,239
other than that his his his memory has just died,

1465
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:12,720
which is I guess.

1466
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 2: Quick question, Nick, Yeah, quick question. Do you think we

1467
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:19,119
on the right have the ability to do what Marjorie

1468
01:36:19,119 --> 01:36:23,199
Taylor Green did and not become poems in this basically?

1469
01:36:23,239 --> 01:36:27,680
Do we have to jump ship like she did only

1470
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,079
to remove that option from them? Do you think actually

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01:36:30,119 --> 01:36:35,560
that we have the collective you know, yeah, I guess

1472
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:41,000
you could say the collective conscious mind to make that happen.

1473
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,039
Speaker 9: I don't know the answer to that, because I mean,

1474
01:36:45,399 --> 01:36:47,840
as far as like people listening to this podcast, one

1475
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:52,039
hundred percent the right wing we're at large, I don't

1476
01:36:52,079 --> 01:36:54,399
know the answer to that because I think what will

1477
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,560
probably happen is that the vast majority of people won't

1478
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:02,560
even have entertained that I intellectually, it'll simply be a

1479
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:06,039
sense of creeping happening, you know, like what's even the point.

1480
01:37:06,239 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 2: I think that's what we.

1481
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 9: Saw with the the you know election where labor swept

1482
01:37:13,159 --> 01:37:15,319
that it wasn't that you know, the vast majority of

1483
01:37:15,359 --> 01:37:18,079
people said, I have heard about this campaign on the internet,

1484
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:20,720
no more, no seats, and I've decided not to do it.

1485
01:37:21,079 --> 01:37:23,439
But it's been you know, the conservatives were in power

1486
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:27,239
for fourteen years, every aspect of my life has gotten worse.

1487
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:32,359
I don't like Keere Starver, but I just can't be bothered.

1488
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:34,840
And I think that's what we will see, especially because

1489
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:40,680
remember Stormy, what are the demographics that push Trump to victory? Well,

1490
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,439
it is gen x right, the largest conservative bulwark in America,

1491
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:50,760
It's certainly true. But also it's men under thirty and

1492
01:37:52,119 --> 01:37:57,000
that magic is gone, like well and truly gone. Especially

1493
01:37:57,159 --> 01:38:01,079
agreed what we expect to happen happen, and that they,

1494
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,359
the so called woke right, are made the whipping boy

1495
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:08,359
of both the right and the left. I think that

1496
01:38:08,359 --> 01:38:10,880
that will that will create a sense of apathy in

1497
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,359
itself because let's be honest, man, I really hate the Republicans,

1498
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,319
but like you could literally put a gun to my

1499
01:38:16,399 --> 01:38:18,720
head and I would not vote for Kamala Harris.

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01:38:19,239 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 2: I just wouldn't.

1501
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:24,239
Speaker 9: I refuse to assent to someone like that. So, even

1502
01:38:24,279 --> 01:38:26,720
out of spite, and don't get me wrong, story there's

1503
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,680
a lot of spite I have towards you know, the GOP,

1504
01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:32,399
I just wouldn't do it. I just would not vote.

1505
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,279
And so I think that is more likely to be

1506
01:38:35,359 --> 01:38:39,479
the reaction less so that people decide. You know, I'll

1507
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,239
take it to the wire. You know, I will punish you,

1508
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:44,800
but I think it will produce the same effects.

1509
01:38:46,119 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 2: So the only way to get out in front of

1510
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,039
it den is to call it out and say these

1511
01:38:50,079 --> 01:38:51,319
guys are differ.

1512
01:38:52,119 --> 01:38:55,199
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, And I mean, look, man, I was actually

1513
01:38:55,279 --> 01:38:59,079
listening back because because I always want to check, because

1514
01:38:59,119 --> 01:39:02,399
I think it's easy to edit your statements in your mind,

1515
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:03,239
be like.

1516
01:39:03,199 --> 01:39:06,319
Speaker 2: Oh I always knew who now. Yeah.

1517
01:39:06,359 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 9: I've been going back to Pomis and I have, you know,

1518
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,960
mind Faser, which is our current events podcast, and it's

1519
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,319
every two weeks, and there aren't that many episodes of it,

1520
01:39:14,359 --> 01:39:17,319
like worked at about thirty, but it's been going for

1521
01:39:17,399 --> 01:39:20,159
over a year now, and it's actually pretty helpful because

1522
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,319
it lets you track with a pretty high degree of

1523
01:39:23,319 --> 01:39:26,159
specificity how you evolved over time. And so I was

1524
01:39:26,199 --> 01:39:30,920
going back and listening to our coverage of the twenty

1525
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:35,760
twenty four election, and I wanted just say one you

1526
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:37,439
didn't have to be a genius, But I called that

1527
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:41,439
Trump was gonna win very very early, because we all

1528
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:45,800
knew it. But I also said, look, Trump is not

1529
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,319
coming to save us. Trump is not our guy, and

1530
01:39:50,039 --> 01:39:55,000
we should we should effectively realize that one we live here,

1531
01:39:55,319 --> 01:39:57,560
so I would rather live in a Trump America, the

1532
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,600
Nicopola Harris America, that decision needs to be made, but

1533
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:05,199
also think what you can get. And even during the

1534
01:40:05,279 --> 01:40:07,520
time like I was, I think the height of my

1535
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:11,880
enthusiasm was during the early Doge months, when it seemed

1536
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,800
as if there was a real effort being made to

1537
01:40:14,039 --> 01:40:17,960
roll back the administry of state. But very quickly the

1538
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:22,119
problem of the judiciary writ rid as head, realizing that

1539
01:40:22,159 --> 01:40:26,880
things would just basically fail to happen, that someone would,

1540
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,119
you know, some random judge of the Bill of nowhere

1541
01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:31,439
would stop it. And I realized, if this doesn't stop,

1542
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:35,520
this thing is done. And it was never stopped. And

1543
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,960
that which I think was the best that we got

1544
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:42,039
that inclination, aside from the border stuff, which I do

1545
01:40:42,079 --> 01:40:45,279
think is still positive.

1546
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 2: It was done.

1547
01:40:47,079 --> 01:40:51,239
Speaker 9: And to me, this is in my mind a long

1548
01:40:51,359 --> 01:40:56,720
slow realization. And look like, are we still better off?

1549
01:40:57,039 --> 01:40:57,319
Speaker 2: Yes?

1550
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,520
Speaker 9: And I think if anything, in a weird way, going

1551
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,640
so hard against the wolk right has sort of stealed

1552
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:07,119
their fate, which I think is doubly doubly obinous. But

1553
01:41:07,359 --> 01:41:10,960
uh yeah, man, I went back to check that I

1554
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:12,840
wasn't drinking the kool aid. And I think that the

1555
01:41:13,279 --> 01:41:17,439
takes that we've had as a group were largely accurate.

1556
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:19,560
And I think that to your point of the reason

1557
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:23,560
why we're doing this now is basically to say, I

1558
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,319
put a pin in this, and if and when this happens,

1559
01:41:27,079 --> 01:41:32,600
don't blame me, right, don't blame me. We called it out,

1560
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,720
and so I think that that is something that definitely

1561
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:37,880
has some promise to it. I think we're we're looking

1562
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:41,039
at the same Tea Leaves who knows that this may

1563
01:41:41,039 --> 01:41:42,880
be something used to mock us in a year and

1564
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:44,279
a half, in which case.

1565
01:41:44,199 --> 01:41:48,279
Speaker 2: Well, what will be really interesting is watching the tech right. Right, So,

1566
01:41:48,359 --> 01:41:55,920
okay said the judicial coup has happened. The judicial coup says, okay, well,

1567
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,279
we can't do this because you can do the tech

1568
01:41:59,359 --> 01:42:02,319
right guys, have they been outside of politics or not

1569
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,800
very very interested except for maybe Peter theol a little

1570
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,800
bit right, and they come into politics thinking like, okay,

1571
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,319
we just got to get a guy in the White House,

1572
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:13,760
like we have to do things above board, right, and

1573
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:19,239
they try that, they do it successfully, and then all

1574
01:42:19,279 --> 01:42:24,520
the judiciaries basically like no, no, no, no, no, we're

1575
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:26,239
just not going to let you do things at the

1576
01:42:26,279 --> 01:42:30,279
Constitution says you can do. You silly people thought that

1577
01:42:30,359 --> 01:42:32,920
this worked how the rules say it works, and it

1578
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:36,439
does not. Right Like, these people don't want to go

1579
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,399
down with the ship, and they definitely don't want to

1580
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:42,720
be I mean, because a dark enlightenment makes this point

1581
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,520
a lot, right, Like, doesn't matter how rich you are,

1582
01:42:46,359 --> 01:42:54,239
if you can't keep the power on, you're just a nerd.

1583
01:42:55,119 --> 01:42:58,760
It doesn't that money doesn't mean anything if all this

1584
01:42:59,119 --> 01:43:03,039
kind of comes crashing down. So usually just as incentivized

1585
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:08,039
as we are. So I wonder now that the that

1586
01:43:08,119 --> 01:43:11,000
the above board moves have been kind of taken off

1587
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:15,039
the table for them. I think it'll be really interesting.

1588
01:43:15,199 --> 01:43:17,840
And you know, obviously they were not able to get

1589
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:24,239
control of the Trump administration. To to my deep sadness,

1590
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,079
I think it'll be really interesting what these guys do next.

1591
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:40,840
And I think on that note, mister Burden, well over

1592
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,159
time we are. Wow.

1593
01:43:43,279 --> 01:43:45,279
Speaker 9: I had a really funny joke, but I was muted.

1594
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,399
That would have been really okay, So it just goes

1595
01:43:48,399 --> 01:43:50,800
into the ether. Then, yes, we are well over time.

1596
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:55,279
I'll be sure to link to your stuff, Stormy as

1597
01:43:55,279 --> 01:43:58,960
far as my stuff you are. Can you hear me, Stormy?

1598
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 2: By the way, I can, I can. Your mic is

1599
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,159
UH is working again?

1600
01:44:04,079 --> 01:44:06,239
Speaker 9: I just want to make sure so, for instance, if

1601
01:44:06,279 --> 01:44:10,119
you are a billionaire and the is firing tech right,

1602
01:44:10,319 --> 01:44:14,279
you can head over to uh my my channels on Patreon,

1603
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:18,520
Substack or gum road to get the episodes early in

1604
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:20,520
D free. This is what I do full time. To

1605
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:21,960
your support helps me.

1606
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:22,640
Speaker 2: Keep the lights on.

1607
01:44:23,199 --> 01:44:25,199
Speaker 9: You can find the regular episodes a few days later

1608
01:44:25,319 --> 01:44:27,840
anywhere you listen to podcasts. If you want to support

1609
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,560
us more directly, Axio's remote fitness and coaching as you

1610
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,560
can probably tell a little bit under the leather. But nonetheless,

1611
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,399
I've been continuing to use the workhouse Jada. You give

1612
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:42,119
me and I am constantly sore. He just abuses me.

1613
01:44:42,319 --> 01:44:44,279
But it's for my own good at least I've been told.

1614
01:44:44,359 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 2: Anyway, Stormy, literally you deserve to be abused. You have

1615
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:51,960
an abusable face, you.

1616
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:57,600
Speaker 9: Know, with friends like these, right, But anyway, THANKSVINGO, Yes,

1617
01:44:58,159 --> 01:45:04,560
last hour, good night? What oh.

1618
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:12,119
Speaker 2: What what?

1619
01:45:12,279 --> 01:45:15,199
Speaker 3: What's what's what?

1620
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:19,600
Speaker 11: What's that's

1621
01:45:21,279 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 10: Gammer gam