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<v Speaker 1>You're putting we got some want or something out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go, but how I did?

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<v Speaker 2>My better?

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<v Speaker 3>Light came on and I did that.

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<v Speaker 2>But they left and they thing running across the yard.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a good sight man or nothing. I look like

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<v Speaker 2>the man. I don't know what it was. The right

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<v Speaker 2>across the yard.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to be a big foot leaning against the

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<v Speaker 1>tree in a wood an area.

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen plenty of people with big feet, but

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<v Speaker 2>not bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Tree lines and rush. He sees about a seven and

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<v Speaker 1>seven and.

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<v Speaker 2>A half foot tall sasquatch looking back at him, and

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of looks like a wolf, but not like

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<v Speaker 2>a neighborhood dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick these stores for what they are and hopes that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I, if it's out there, then show me Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and says he might have caught the mythical Cuba cabra

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<v Speaker 1>creature terrorizing.

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<v Speaker 2>His chickens like a grunt and a knock like a

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<v Speaker 2>w I think there's kind of a cultural tendency for

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<v Speaker 2>people to want to make Bigfoot a quote unquote monster.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to ECBR Bigfoot Radio. Hey ladies and gentlemen, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Daniel bin Wall back with another exciting and

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<v Speaker 1>awesome podcast with a special guest tonight who I believe

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna probably dive into some very interesting discussions.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, we're going to learn a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about his background and uh, you know, probably get right

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<v Speaker 1>into talking about some of his experiences and probably getting

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about theories or other beliefs all in between.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're gonna want to sit tight and check

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<v Speaker 1>this out. Please welcome mister l Or do you go

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<v Speaker 1>by al or Alfred Aler because we are al Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get we'll keep we'll keep it to as how

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<v Speaker 1>you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm doing great, Daniel, how you doing? Brother?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hanging in there, that's for sure. So yeah, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I want to thank you for jumping on

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<v Speaker 1>here with me tonight. This is great that you agree

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<v Speaker 1>to do this and everything. So so I got a

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<v Speaker 1>feel of your background, but I don't, you know, lay

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<v Speaker 1>it over to you so you can maybe share with

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<v Speaker 1>the audience and the listeners and kind of give him

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<v Speaker 1>a backfill on you if you want to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give us some feedback or you know, let us know

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<v Speaker 1>who you are, what got you into all this, and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of go from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, my name is alexand a Riga. My brother, Frank

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<v Speaker 2>was He was one of the first parapsychologists in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. He used to go out with Hans Holtzer's

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<v Speaker 2>right hand man and and and do investigations with their

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<v Speaker 2>psychic ethel My mom was. My mom was a psychic

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<v Speaker 2>who had people would come to her all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>She would get premonitions all the time, and people would

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<v Speaker 2>come to her, and she would talk in her sleep

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<v Speaker 2>so much that my father would make us sleep in

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<v Speaker 2>a spare room. They work instruction, and he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>get to work and he couldn't sleep. He couldn't work,

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't sleep at night with her talking. I started

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<v Speaker 2>the Bronxville Paranormal Society many many years ago, and we

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<v Speaker 2>started off as a paranormal I hate the term of

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<v Speaker 2>ghost hunting, but we were a paranormal group, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we just evolved into I'm the director of the New

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<v Speaker 2>York State Sasquatch Organization, the director of the New York

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<v Speaker 2>State UFO Project, the director of the New York State

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<v Speaker 2>dog Man Project, founder of the Bronxville Paranormal Society. Regentry,

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<v Speaker 2>director of the North American dog Man Project. For mister Cook,

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<v Speaker 2>Jody Cook and also a moufan member here in New

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<v Speaker 2>York State. And I do anything in everything. Good friend

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<v Speaker 2>of mine Chris Reinhardt from discovered Sasquatch. He investigates the

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<v Speaker 2>Berkshire Mountains and Connecticut. He gave me the nickname the

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<v Speaker 2>squatch Father. It kind of stuck, and it's what everybody

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<v Speaker 2>knows me as now, is the squatch Father. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I do a little bit of everything, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love I love squatching. I gotta be honest, It's

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite thing. But whatever comes my way, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm open to anything and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing you made mention and you touched on right there.

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<v Speaker 1>You discussed how you hate the term ghost hunter. It's

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<v Speaker 1>funny you mentioned that because I've been referred to it

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<v Speaker 1>as a big point or sasquatch hunter, quote hunter. It

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<v Speaker 1>just gives it an ugly ring that you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>always tell people, no, I'm a researcher, don't call me

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<v Speaker 1>a hunter. I mean, but at the same time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if people want to refer to me as a hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess to a certain except that could be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just a lot of ears and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that hear that perceive it in a still

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<v Speaker 1>a manner like yeah, we're out to kill something, you know. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the other thing is I've been titled as or

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<v Speaker 1>introduced as a big expert. Uh. That's like kind of yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of gut turning to me because I like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't call me that, you know. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>done a lot of research, I got some experiences, but

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make anybody an expert. I don't care how

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<v Speaker 1>long you've been involved with this, you know. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to touch base on that because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm sure you had your reasons. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to be called or a ghost hunter, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and I don't want to be called an

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<v Speaker 2>expert in anything. As a matter of fact, I tell

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<v Speaker 2>people all the time when they refer to me as

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<v Speaker 2>an expert, like when you get invited to symposiums and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and they say, oh, he's an expert and a No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not an expert on anything literally anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even call myself a research I call myself an experiencer

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<v Speaker 2>and an investigator. That's what I do. I investigate. I

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe I don't believe that there are any

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<v Speaker 2>experts in this field. There are people who are experiences

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<v Speaker 2>that experience stuff, and there are people with more experienced

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<v Speaker 2>time in the field, you know, investigating, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>There are no experts as far as I'm concerned, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, absolutely, for sure. I mean there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>scientists and people that do get involved with some of this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that they are experts in their field, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you know, for example, doctor Jeff Meldrum, I agree, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no doubt. I mean, and I agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>call him an expert in his field, yes, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but for him to say, yeah, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>pick for an expert. No, he just he speaks his

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<v Speaker 1>mind in beliefs on what he might believe something is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know he'll tell you himself. It doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it a fact. But there's the data he's collected and studied.

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<v Speaker 1>It points towards or gives him that conclusion. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>just like what we might have, what we gather an

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<v Speaker 1>observed and witness, you know that all that data gives

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<v Speaker 1>us conclusions to what we want to believe something is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, and everybody is entitled to their opinion

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<v Speaker 2>and what they you know, there's no wrong answers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>no right answers. You know what I mean. So, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean everybody is entitled to their to their belief and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, no one should criticize anybody or be

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<v Speaker 2>little anybody for what they believe. Another term that I

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<v Speaker 2>totally hate more than anything is when they when they

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<v Speaker 2>call people. Oh geez, I can't think of that. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't think of the term now. I just I just

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<v Speaker 2>blanked out.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, don't feel bad. I get that way off.

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<v Speaker 2>Just uh, Dave and Dave Scott says it all the time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll come to me later. We'll get back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, no, it's okay. Yeah, that's totally cool.

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<v Speaker 2>No, just blanked out. I can't stand when I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm famous for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well known for it. So I've had a blank

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<v Speaker 1>out many times when I would have questions to ask

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<v Speaker 1>my guests. Usually I try to have most of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff written down, but well, I'll write it down as I.

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<v Speaker 3>Go and you know, but no, it's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you also said that Bigfoot's been your favorite,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a subject got all the different things you've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten involved with. What got you into Bigfoot or liking it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when I was twelve years old, I had an

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<v Speaker 2>experience down in South Florida. My sister lived in a

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<v Speaker 2>little town called Davy, Florida, and she lived on the

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<v Speaker 2>outskirts of Davy and her property backed up against the Everglades.

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<v Speaker 2>And then teen seventy four lived in a little development

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<v Speaker 2>called Sunshine Acres. They were just building the development. It

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<v Speaker 2>was still cowboy country down there.

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<v Speaker 3>Back then.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that the biggest thing that came around

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor to July was the rodeo. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 2>there were no sidewalks or streetlights. There was a cowboy

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<v Speaker 2>down and everybody had three rifles on the pickup truck,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sure.

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<v Speaker 2>My father and my uncle would send me and my

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<v Speaker 2>cousin down to Florida every year. It was like our

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<v Speaker 2>summer vacation, and my brother in law would put us

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<v Speaker 2>to work around the property. We'd cut grass, we'd paint,

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<v Speaker 2>we did all kinds of stuff. But we also had

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<v Speaker 2>dirt bikes that we would ride in the swamp, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we hit, we'd go in the woods and

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<v Speaker 2>we'd shoot guns and everything. And we since we went

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<v Speaker 2>back every year, we knew a lot of the kids

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<v Speaker 2>in the area, you know, the kids that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been there from the beginning, and then the newer kids

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<v Speaker 2>had moved in. And so one summer we were down there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was nineteen seventy four. I was twelve, my cousin

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony was fifteen. It was a drought that summer in

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<v Speaker 2>South Florida. The Everyglades was on fire and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the wildlife was getting pushed in and us being

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<v Speaker 2>right on the cuffs of the Everglades. My cousin Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>and I were watching wrestling one night, and one Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 2>we're up late watching wrestling, and something walked past the

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<v Speaker 2>us that smelled the high heaven, you know, and my

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<v Speaker 2>sister had two you know, can nine German shepherds that

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<v Speaker 2>went ballistic and we had to throw him in the

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<v Speaker 2>garage because if they would have woke up my brother

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<v Speaker 2>in law, who was an ext marine, he would have

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<v Speaker 2>kicked everybody's ass. And because he had his own restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>and he worked late hours, so when he got home

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<v Speaker 2>he was tired, so Anyway, we tell my sister the

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<v Speaker 2>next morning and yeah, something walked by the house. It's

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<v Speaker 2>smelled the high heaven. And my brother in law said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>must have been the sky. And me and my cousin

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony looked at each and like, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the skunk game? You know, we thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>pulling our legs. We didn't believe him, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And my sister went on to explain, it's the Florida

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<v Speaker 2>version of Bigfoot. Now. Look, I seen the Patty video

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<v Speaker 2>in seventy two when I was ten years old, and

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<v Speaker 2>with all my cousins and I told them all right

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<v Speaker 2>then and there where we've seen it. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>Bond movie. I said, that thing is real. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>a man in a costume. The vibe I got was

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<v Speaker 2>that was a real deal, and I believed it ever

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<v Speaker 2>since I was ten years old. I'm sixty two now.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we went out that day. We used to

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<v Speaker 2>all the local kids and they were like, yeah, when

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<v Speaker 2>it gets hot like this, the skunk game comes around,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like nonchalant to them. It wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal, you know, And me and my cousin were like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this is insane, you know where you know, we're used

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<v Speaker 2>to dealing with thugs and back alleyways in the city

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, New York, not monsters in the woods

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<v Speaker 2>in South Florida, you know. And one night, so that

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<v Speaker 2>like a week later, again, we were up late one

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<v Speaker 2>night watching like Don Kirshion's Rocks concert. It came out

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<v Speaker 2>just ended around two, and we were going to bed

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<v Speaker 2>and she had a big queen sized bed in her

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<v Speaker 2>sun room that faced the front of the house or

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<v Speaker 2>the dogs. And we're laying in bed and the senseral

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<v Speaker 2>across the front of the wall. You know, Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>We're both looking up at this shadow and the dogs

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<v Speaker 2>start going ballistic. So I jumped out of bed. I

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed both dogs and drag him into the garage. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I came out, I belly crawled like an army

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<v Speaker 2>man to the window. Our bed was up against a

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<v Speaker 2>picture window that was like four feet high. It was

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<v Speaker 2>by four feet by eight, so it was a huge

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<v Speaker 2>picture window. I peeked out from under the window and

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<v Speaker 2>there in the middle of the driveway was this nine

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<v Speaker 2>foot monster that looked like King Kong to me. Okay wow,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's standing there and you know, Highside Beating twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know at the time, as a twelve year

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<v Speaker 2>old kid that it had seen its reflection in the

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<v Speaker 2>glass and it thought it was another skun game. And

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<v Speaker 2>it did this like incredible fult scream and flex and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like insane, you know. And my cousin

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony just frozen the bed. He wasn't moving an inch.

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<v Speaker 2>And it started to walk around side of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the particular side of the house that it

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<v Speaker 2>was walking along, there was empty lots because I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the development wasn't really built up. There was a few

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<v Speaker 2>houses here and there. So I pulled my cousin out

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<v Speaker 2>of the bed. I said, come on, man, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to check this out. And we ran into the bathroom

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<v Speaker 2>in between the kids rooms, and the window was we

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<v Speaker 2>kept the lights off. We had tinted windows and a

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<v Speaker 2>black screen, and we're watching this thing as it walks

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<v Speaker 2>along the fence line. And I'm going to say it

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<v Speaker 2>was nine feet tall, nine hundred pounds, and I'm probably

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<v Speaker 2>being light. And the reason I say it was nine

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<v Speaker 2>feet tall is because I know that fence was six

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<v Speaker 2>foot tall for the dogs, and it was head and

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders above the fence, you know. And as it's walking

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<v Speaker 2>past us, we're watching it. It's looking at us like

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<v Speaker 2>it can see us, and we can't understand how to

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<v Speaker 2>think and see us because we're in the dark. And

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<v Speaker 2>at one point it stops and it picks up a

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<v Speaker 2>wild watermelon and it takes a bite and it just

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing left but two nubs. It drops the nubs

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<v Speaker 2>and it starts walking towards the back of the property.

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<v Speaker 2>And again I dragged my cousin Anthony out to the patio,

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<v Speaker 2>which was screened in because I knew once it passed

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<v Speaker 2>the back to the corner of the house, the sensor

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<v Speaker 2>lights in the back would go on as well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And it had a red tint to it, like its

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<v Speaker 2>hair and hair looked it looked like the hair was black,

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<v Speaker 2>but when the sens of lights were hitting it, it

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<v Speaker 2>had like a red tint its hair color, and its

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<v Speaker 2>eyes were red. Now I don't know if that was

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<v Speaker 2>their color of its eyes or if that was just

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<v Speaker 2>from the reflection of the sense of lights, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it did have canines because when it screamed, I

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<v Speaker 2>could see the canines. And as it's walking past the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the house where we're hanging out and the

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<v Speaker 2>screened in patio watching it go by, and the whole

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<v Speaker 2>time it's walking by, it's turned looking at us, like

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<v Speaker 2>I can see us. Squats down at a man made

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<v Speaker 2>lake at the house behind our house had a man

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<v Speaker 2>made lake, squatted down there, drank the water out of

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<v Speaker 2>the lake, and then it walked off into the woods

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<v Speaker 2>where we used to ride our dirt bikes and go

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<v Speaker 2>horseback riding and everything, and it just started screaming. So

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<v Speaker 2>the next day we told my brother in law and

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<v Speaker 2>my sister when they woke up what happened, and we

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<v Speaker 2>went out and on the side of the fence line

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<v Speaker 2>there were tracks. I think there were like sixteen inches long,

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<v Speaker 2>and eight inches wide. And my brother said, Okay, when

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<v Speaker 2>I come home tonight, I'm gonna come home for lunch

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna cast him because he wanted to put

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<v Speaker 2>the tracks on the bar at the restaurant and two tracks,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wanted to put two tracks at the bar

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<v Speaker 2>in the house for a conversation piece, you know. But

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<v Speaker 2>the restaurant got really busy, and when the horse rancher

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<v Speaker 2>would come by to take tours out into the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>they always rode by our house and they walked, they

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<v Speaker 2>rode over the tracks and destroyed them. So we never

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<v Speaker 2>did get any tracks. And oh man, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, we didn't mind the rest because all

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<v Speaker 2>the girls would come by on the horses, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we would be hanging out by the fence balking to

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<v Speaker 2>them and stuff. But we lost the tracks. But then

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of nights went by and at the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of the development, I'm going to say it was like

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<v Speaker 2>the the west southwest end of development. And then we're

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<v Speaker 2>surrounded by canals and the only way to get up

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<v Speaker 2>to this development is over there is one lane, one

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<v Speaker 2>car bridge. Go yeah, with one car over the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the beginning of the development was this horse

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<v Speaker 2>rancher who was good friends with us because my sister

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<v Speaker 2>used to live across the street from him, originally in

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<v Speaker 2>a greenhouse. When they built the house in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of the property, they built a bigger one with an

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<v Speaker 2>end ground pool, you know. So our friend we would go.

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<v Speaker 2>We would go work at his father's horse ranch, would

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<v Speaker 2>shovel shit to make a few dollars to get beer

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<v Speaker 2>or something, you know, or we would take tours out

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods in the swamps when he didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>anybody to take the tours out. But he had just

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<v Speaker 2>picked up a horse from like Wyoming or Montana that

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<v Speaker 2>was really wild, and he couldn't put it in the

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<v Speaker 2>stalls because they would kick it amid all the other

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<v Speaker 2>horse is nervous. So he kept it out in the

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<v Speaker 2>corral that night, and he had a Native American Seminole

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<v Speaker 2>Indian work in the horse to break it well. One night,

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<v Speaker 2>my brother in wall came home from the restaurant around

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<v Speaker 2>twelve thirty one o'clock, and he used to bring all

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<v Speaker 2>like the burnt pizzas home, you know, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was like our midnight snack, and we would sit

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<v Speaker 2>out in the patio and we'd eat the burnt pizzas.

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<v Speaker 2>And one night we're sitting out there, we're all talking,

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<v Speaker 2>talking to me and my sister, my brother in law,

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<v Speaker 2>and my cousin, and we started hearing gunfire coming from

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<v Speaker 2>the horse rancher's house. So we run to the front

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<v Speaker 2>of the house and you can see muzzle flashes like

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty thirty going off. Boom boom, boom boom, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And my brother says, jump on your bikes and go

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<v Speaker 2>check it out. So we jumped on our dirt bikes

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<v Speaker 2>and we ran it. We drove over everybody's lawn that

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<v Speaker 2>was we just because we were trying to get there

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<v Speaker 2>as fans as we could. So we just drove over

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's lawn and we got down to the corner and

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<v Speaker 2>we see our friend that were talking to our friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole neighborhood is out, you know, and we're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on, and he says, yeah, the skunk ape

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<v Speaker 2>came here tonight and he tried to get my father's

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<v Speaker 2>new horse, you know, snuck up on my father's new

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<v Speaker 2>wild Mustang or whatever it was. And and what happened

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<v Speaker 2>was it creeped up on this wild mustang, and it

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed it from its hind quarters, you know. But the

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<v Speaker 2>horse must have kicked out, jumped the corral and got

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<v Speaker 2>into the pasture. And at that point the rancher came

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<v Speaker 2>out and he started shooting at the skunk gate. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the sheriff comes, everybody comes. It's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>big deal. The next day we go back down there again.

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<v Speaker 2>The Native American comes to get the horse. He goes

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<v Speaker 2>out to the pasture to get the horse. He brings

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<v Speaker 2>it back in and when he got in, the horse

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<v Speaker 2>had handprints on its hind quarters, like to grab you

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<v Speaker 2>by your wrist and squeeze real hard. That's what it

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<v Speaker 2>had on its hind quarters. Not claw marks, fingerprints on

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<v Speaker 2>its hind quarters. And it was a Native American who

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<v Speaker 2>said he had a horse must have kicked out to

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<v Speaker 2>get to break the grip to get away, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And the sheriff said, okay, we're gonna pick up the

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<v Speaker 2>patrols in this area because you know, you guys, you're

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<v Speaker 2>right on the on the on the edge of the Everglades,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you got a lot of action going

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<v Speaker 2>around here, you know. And you gotta understand, this was

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<v Speaker 2>a little, little town back in seventy four, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like it was like in Maybury. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>the sheriff and the deputy and that was it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And our development was like a two miles square and

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<v Speaker 2>I used to jog it every day. And at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of our road was a cattle rancher and he

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<v Speaker 2>had a white Brahma bull. And this bull was as

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<v Speaker 2>big as a mini van, you know what I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he was. He had to hump in his back and

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<v Speaker 2>he was just a big, big boy. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>how big he was because I had to get into

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<v Speaker 2>the pasture went. I was jogging past this lady's house

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<v Speaker 2>and she had a Saint Bernard and she happened to

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<v Speaker 2>be coming up the street and she hit the automatic

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<v Speaker 2>gate to open the gates because she could drive in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm running by. The dog is going crazy barking

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<v Speaker 2>at me. The dog comes running out chasing me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, Kujo, this dog's gonna eat me down. In

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<v Speaker 2>South Florida, it's not like New York. We don't have

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<v Speaker 2>There's not trees all over the place that you can

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<v Speaker 2>climb to get away. And then this dog is gaining

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<v Speaker 2>on me, and the only place I thought to go

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<v Speaker 2>was that pasture because the fence was only like four

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<v Speaker 2>feet high, you know what I mean, And I knew

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<v Speaker 2>that dog was probably too heavy to jump over it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I dove over the fence to go into the pasture,

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<v Speaker 2>and the dog jumped up against the fence and was

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<v Speaker 2>going absolutely crazy. And at that point I got up

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<v Speaker 2>and I looked up and the bull was looking at me,

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<v Speaker 2>and the bull was looking at the dog, and the

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<v Speaker 2>dog was making so much noise that the bull was

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<v Speaker 2>really focusing on the dog. So I started working my

421
00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:19.720
<v Speaker 2>way around to the front gate, and I was using

422
00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:22.720
<v Speaker 2>the cows as protection. I was hiding behind the cows

423
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.680
<v Speaker 2>so the bull wouldn't charge me, you know. By the

424
00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:27.880
<v Speaker 2>time I got By the time I got to the

425
00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:30.279
<v Speaker 2>front gate, the lady down the street had called the

426
00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:32.559
<v Speaker 2>dog backs. I was able to go get out of

427
00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:36.039
<v Speaker 2>the gate and go home. And actually, the dude who

428
00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:41.480
<v Speaker 2>owned that cattle ranch hated us because we would come

429
00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:43.799
<v Speaker 2>flying out of our street one hundred miles an hour.

430
00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:46.240
<v Speaker 2>No streets were all gravel back then down there, you know,

431
00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:49.759
<v Speaker 2>and not to go down on the dirt bikes, we'd

432
00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:52.160
<v Speaker 2>had to take a wide turn and we would tear

433
00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:56.519
<v Speaker 2>up his lawn every day, every day. And my brother

434
00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.839
<v Speaker 2>in law was always paying this dude to reside his

435
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.759
<v Speaker 2>lawn because we were tearing it up every time we

436
00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:04.519
<v Speaker 2>came around that turn. You know, it was like, you

437
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:06.359
<v Speaker 2>guys got to slow down when you come out of

438
00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:10.039
<v Speaker 2>this road, you know. And uh, you know, we were

439
00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:12.559
<v Speaker 2>two kids from New York were wild and crazy. We're

440
00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:14.440
<v Speaker 2>having fun. We're having the fun of you know, time

441
00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.440
<v Speaker 2>of our lives down to Florida. You know, we didn't

442
00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:19.000
<v Speaker 2>have dirt bikes in the city. You know, we're guns

443
00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, right, so.

444
00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.079
<v Speaker 3>You guys are doing doing what kids like to do,

445
00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:25.039
<v Speaker 3>have fun, you know.

446
00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Everything everything that the local kids were doing, we were doing.

447
00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:34.319
<v Speaker 2>You know. We were yeah, whatever you want to do,

448
00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:39.200
<v Speaker 2>let's do were We were into everything, you know. And uh,

449
00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:44.160
<v Speaker 2>one night, my brother in law and my sister were

450
00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.559
<v Speaker 2>going there. We had some had some friends flying from

451
00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:49.160
<v Speaker 2>New York and they we're gonna take them down to

452
00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Miami dancing and dinner and all of that jazz. And

453
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.160
<v Speaker 2>they told us, you know, we had to watch stay

454
00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:57.039
<v Speaker 2>home babysit the kids. And they said, listen, you know

455
00:23:57.440 --> 00:23:59.519
<v Speaker 2>these are what the guns are. If you have any

456
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.279
<v Speaker 2>issues you know, let the dogs out first, and if

457
00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:04.319
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't do it, you know, here's here's what the

458
00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:06.599
<v Speaker 2>guns are. You know, just make sure what happens to

459
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.519
<v Speaker 2>the kids. And you know, they got home around two

460
00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:14.599
<v Speaker 2>o'clock in the morning, and it was a pretty quiet night.

461
00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Nothing had happened. And you know, of course the dogs

462
00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.759
<v Speaker 2>go nuts when they hear the car pull into the driveway.

463
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:22.359
<v Speaker 2>So I had to let the dogs out because they

464
00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.039
<v Speaker 2>would have just tore up the door jumping up against it.

465
00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.759
<v Speaker 2>And so we all go out. We're all sitting in

466
00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:29.640
<v Speaker 2>the driveway and my drug law had just bought a

467
00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:31.759
<v Speaker 2>brand new like I don't know if it was a

468
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Mark two, Mark three Lincoln Continental. It was loaded, it

469
00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>was gorgeous, and we're all standing around the car and

470
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:43.880
<v Speaker 2>we hear this blood curdling scream. I mean, it just

471
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>put the fear of God in you and nobody knew

472
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:50.119
<v Speaker 2>what it was. And then right after the scream, you'd

473
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:54.799
<v Speaker 2>seen like a double barrel shotgun go off, boom, and

474
00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:57.559
<v Speaker 2>it was coming from the cattle rancher's property, you know.

475
00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:01.119
<v Speaker 2>So my sister grabbed the door and ran his side.

476
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:03.960
<v Speaker 2>She was petrified, and my brother us to jump into

477
00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Carllege because see what happened. So my cousin Anthony jumped

478
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:09.440
<v Speaker 2>in the front seat, I jumped in the back. I

479
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:12.200
<v Speaker 2>had my brother law open up the sunroof. I'm hanging

480
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:14.559
<v Speaker 2>out of the sun roof. We drive down to the

481
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:16.960
<v Speaker 2>end of the corner, and just as we get to

482
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 2>the corner, the deputy is coming down the street doing

483
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the patrol, and we get stuck behind the deputy and

484
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.039
<v Speaker 2>he's going like two miles an hour, and he's got

485
00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 2>his spotlight facing to the left, facing the swamp, you know,

486
00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:32.160
<v Speaker 2>and we're behind him and we're watching and we can

487
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:34.640
<v Speaker 2>see another car at the other end of the development,

488
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>because you know, one thing about Florida, it's flat, you know,

489
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.559
<v Speaker 2>so you can see for miles. And we've seen another

490
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:41.960
<v Speaker 2>car at the end of the draw, at the end

491
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:44.519
<v Speaker 2>of the doult. We just assumed it was probably the sheriff,

492
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:50.400
<v Speaker 2>and everybody's looking to the left, looking to the left,

493
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>when the creature comes running out of the darkness from

494
00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>the right and the deputy hits it, and the deputy's

495
00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:03.680
<v Speaker 2>car stopped like it hit a telephone pole. Okay, this

496
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.680
<v Speaker 2>thing just stopped dead. But the creature stumbled and went

497
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:09.960
<v Speaker 2>down and he took down like a school bus sign.

498
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:13.519
<v Speaker 2>And from what the guys were telling me who replaced

499
00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:16.000
<v Speaker 2>the sign, those signs are supposed to be able to

500
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:17.960
<v Speaker 2>take like two hundred mile an hour winds and not

501
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>get bent. Well listening landed on that sign and it

502
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>pancaked that sign. Okay wow, And it gets back up

503
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and it starts limping over to the police car. Now

504
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.400
<v Speaker 2>my bron Wai hits it with the high beams. He

505
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:34.799
<v Speaker 2>got a better look at it. I'm hanging out of

506
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the out of the sun roof. It's like slow motion.

507
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:42.480
<v Speaker 2>It's it's surreal, you know what I mean. Like it

508
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.839
<v Speaker 2>you don't even believe what you see. You're you're I

509
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.599
<v Speaker 2>tell people, when you see these things, your brain can't

510
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.640
<v Speaker 2>comprehend what your eyes are seen because it's supposed to exist.

511
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:55.759
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting there and we're only four feet behind

512
00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 2>the deputy's car, and it limps over to the deputy's

513
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:01.839
<v Speaker 2>car and it stopped and it looks down at the

514
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 2>deputy and it screams at him, and it does like

515
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:08.279
<v Speaker 2>a hammer punch in the front of the car. He

516
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 2>hits his car so hard that the back of the

517
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:14.319
<v Speaker 2>car comes off the ground. Okay wow, and it limps

518
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>off into the swamp. At this point, the sheriff has

519
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.160
<v Speaker 2>turned the corner. He's coming down and he puts his

520
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>lights on. He comes racing down and he's taking reports. Now,

521
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:29.400
<v Speaker 2>back then, the sheriff, the deputies used to carry the

522
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.559
<v Speaker 2>shotgun in the front seat between the driver and the passenger.

523
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not like today when they keep everything

524
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>in the trunk. And the sheriff said to the deputy,

525
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>why ain't she shoot it with the shotgun? And the

526
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:47.880
<v Speaker 2>deputy said, gun wasn't big enough, you know, he wasn't

527
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:52.759
<v Speaker 2>big enough. And he's taken the deputy's report of what happened.

528
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:55.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's taken our report what happened because we

529
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>were witnesses, because the car was totaled, you know. And

530
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.599
<v Speaker 2>the cattle rancher comes flying up in this pickup truck

531
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:04.319
<v Speaker 2>and he says, you got to come back to my ranch.

532
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:06.559
<v Speaker 2>You gotta see what that damn skunkcape did to my

533
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 2>prize bull. And I'm thinking, there's no way, there's no

534
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>way the skunkcake could do anything to that bull. That

535
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>bull had to be twenty five hundred pounds. It was

536
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:20.319
<v Speaker 2>as big as a minivan, you know. So the sheriff

537
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 2>takes off with the with the cattle rancher. We go

538
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 2>around the deputy, We followed it, We followed the shoe,

539
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 2>We followed the sheriff. We get to the cattle rancher's

540
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>house and the sheriff is panning the pasture and there

541
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the pasture is this white Brahma

542
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 2>bull bleeding out with no head. And wow, and then

543
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.079
<v Speaker 2>he pans the pasture like another hundred yards to the

544
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 2>to the to the east, and there's the head. You

545
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.759
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. This creature ripped the head off

546
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>this Brahma bull. Now, being a twelve year old kid,

547
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I love bull riding, you know what I mean. So

548
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:01.720
<v Speaker 2>when the rodeo came to town, I was hanging out

549
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>as close as I could to the bull riders, you know,

550
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 2>and I was talking to the cowboys and everything, and

551
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>they were telling me that the Brahma bulls were the

552
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:13.240
<v Speaker 2>worst because they were ornery, you know. And then they said,

553
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>you never want to draw a Brama because the Brama's ornery.

554
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.039
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and I got this in the

555
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>back of my head. This bull was ornery, and this

556
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:24.400
<v Speaker 2>creature ripped its head off, you know. And then at

557
00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:27.279
<v Speaker 2>that point they called it a state police and the

558
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 2>county police, and they came in with helicopters and horses

559
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 2>and dogs and they searched the swamp high and load.

560
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.319
<v Speaker 2>They never found anything. And we thought that they were

561
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 2>going to come and into view us like the news people,

562
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>because that whole summer they were interviewing county police, state police,

563
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of people who were seeing skuncapes all over

564
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Florida because the fires and the everglades and the skuncapes

565
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>were all over South Florida. So we thought that they

566
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>would come and interview us. We raced it out in

567
00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 2>the morning to get the newspapers. We were in the papers,

568
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 2>went to the local wind Dixie and got all the newspapers,

569
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 2>and there was nothing about any of it in the newspapers.

570
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>No one ever came to interview us. It was like

571
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 2>it never happened. But I was. I was talking to

572
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Dave Sheeley. I mean he's the guy, Yeah, he ran

573
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 2>the Skunkate Museum in Florida.

574
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 1>Right, Oh, yeah, I was actually thinking about him when

575
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:24.599
<v Speaker 1>you were telling me this. I was like, yeah, this

576
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 1>should be too far from his area.

577
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>And he we was talking and he had me put

578
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 2>that experience in in his website on his museum, right,

579
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 2>and some chicks from the BFR row read it, and

580
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 2>she called me. She was actually like the state director

581
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>from the BFR row And I forgot her name, read

582
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Merrylit or something like that. She was the same age

583
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>as I was. She lived in the next town over

584
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:02.000
<v Speaker 2>from from Davy. Her father had a garage and Davy,

585
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:05.480
<v Speaker 2>and her uncle was a cop in the next town over,

586
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it was called Cooper City, and they would

587
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.319
<v Speaker 2>come home at night and he would tell his family

588
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>about all these sightings in Davy, you know, and her

589
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>uncle would come over and tell all the sightings that

590
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>they would have all these sightings in Cooper City. So

591
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>she was telling me about all our stuff and when

592
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>as I was telling her about my stuff, and she

593
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>put my story into the BFRO website. But she was

594
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 2>like she went above beyond the call of duty.

595
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:35.240
<v Speaker 3>Man.

596
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>She got like photographs, aerial photographs of sunshine acres, and

597
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>she marked out where our house was, where the course

598
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>ranchers ouse was, where the cattle ranchers house was. She

599
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 2>got all these articles from all the papers in South Florida,

600
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.559
<v Speaker 2>from the early seventies and up to seventy four about

601
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>all the skunkcap reports. So she put everything into my

602
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>report and just blew me away when and then I

603
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 2>ended up talking to Sevilla Erwin and she did an

604
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>artist rendering of the creature I seen, you know, and

605
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>she put that in the report as well. I mean, yeah,

606
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 2>it was it was. It was when I could wait

607
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>to get home to New York to tell my brother

608
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>what happened, you know, because I know my brother was

609
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 2>like my brother had every kind of book you could

610
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>think of under the Son in his room, from UFOs

611
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>and Big for Lockness, Monster, you know, all demons and

612
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of so whenever he finished reading it, I

613
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:40.599
<v Speaker 2>read it. So I couldn't wait to get home to

614
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 2>tell my brother about it. And my cousin Ante, he's like, no,

615
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Speaker 2>you can't tell you brother, And I was like, why

616
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>why can't I tell my brother? And he's like, because

617
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>if you tell your brother, your brother's going to tell

618
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.039
<v Speaker 2>everybody else in the family and we're going to get

619
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:56.759
<v Speaker 2>riddle culed. And if we get the way my families

620
00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:59.079
<v Speaker 2>were a big Italian family, the way we show our

621
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 2>love is by breaking everybody's chops, you know what I mean. Oh,

622
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 2>my cousin Antony. He said, if they break my bulls,

623
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna kick this shit out of you, you know what.

624
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I And he was a weightlifter, he was a big

625
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 2>dude for fifteen and I was a martial arts guy.

626
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:19.039
<v Speaker 2>We fought all the time, you know. But I didn't

627
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 2>really want to fight my cousin Antony. They had no

628
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>desire to fight him, you know. So when I got

629
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 2>back to New York, I only told like my two

630
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>best friends about it. I never mentioned anything to my cousin,

631
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 2>to my brother, And about thirty years later, forty years later,

632
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>my brother wrote a book and he called my sister

633
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>because my sister's an intuitive, you know, and my sister said,

634
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you should talk to Al. Al's the one in the

635
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>family that has all the experiences, like mom, you know.

636
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 2>So then when I told my brother about it, He's like,

637
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>why didn't you ever tell me? And I was like,

638
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 2>cause Anthony threatened to kick my ass.

639
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:53.279
<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

640
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to have to fight my cousin, you know.

641
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>And my brother, like my brother called my sister to

642
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:03.519
<v Speaker 2>validate everything. But at the time, my cousin Anthony had

643
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.559
<v Speaker 2>passed and my brother in law had passed, so it

644
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>was just my my, my, my version and what my

645
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>sister remembered, you know. I mean, of course you remember

646
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:15.400
<v Speaker 2>the incident that summer and everything, but yeah, I know,

647
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>so it was it was, it was. It was when

648
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I got back to New York and I lived in

649
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>the city and the only patch of grass I had

650
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.239
<v Speaker 2>in the front of my house was maybe like ten

651
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 2>feet by eight feet little piece of grass, like like

652
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:36.679
<v Speaker 2>a postage stamp piece of grass. And my my actually

653
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>my bedroom used to be the front porch. My father

654
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 2>was a carbager. He closed it off and made an

655
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>extra bedroom out of it. But the only windows he

656
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>had at the time in his carpenter shop was like

657
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>a front porch of front window. So I had a

658
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>big picture window in the front with two little ones.

659
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 2>And I always used to think that the Bigfoot was

660
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:59.119
<v Speaker 2>going to come to come to the city and reach

661
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:01.480
<v Speaker 2>through that window, grabbed me out of my bed and

662
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>pulled me out because my bedroom was like the size

663
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 2>of a prison cell, you know. Man, I was like

664
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 2>for like two years, I couldn't sleep. It just freaked

665
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:16.760
<v Speaker 2>me out so much because it was such an experienced

666
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 2>traumatic experience. I couldn't sleep for like two years, you know.

667
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean I still went into the woods with my

668
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:24.400
<v Speaker 2>friends and we hung out in the woods and we

669
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:26.400
<v Speaker 2>built forts and we did all that stuff and be

670
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 2>begun fights. But so as it got dark, man, I

671
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 2>got out of those woods.

672
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, because you know up in New York. Yeah,

673
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't realize what they're thinking New York.

674
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.599
<v Speaker 1>They're thinking of the Yeah, in the cities. You know,

675
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>they don't realize how much mountains and woods there is

676
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:43.079
<v Speaker 1>in New York.

677
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, I live in the right on the tip

678
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:52.199
<v Speaker 2>of the southern the southern Catskill Mountain Range. Oh and

679
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 2>the Catskill Mountain Range by itself is five hundred thousand

680
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:57.320
<v Speaker 2>square acres.

681
00:35:58.400 --> 00:35:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, beautiful.

682
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And north of that is the Adirondack Mountains, and

683
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 2>that's six million acres, you know what I mean. So

684
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:12.360
<v Speaker 2>people don't realize how much how how New York or

685
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:16.719
<v Speaker 2>the Northeast looks like the Pacific Northwest, you know what

686
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

687
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

688
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've often told people, even with my research and

689
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>what I when people ask about the East Coast or

690
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>like here in Virginia, well, I don't.

691
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:28.079
<v Speaker 3>Just speak for Virginia.

692
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>But I say, people on the restimate the East coast,

693
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, just because the Pacific Northwest has the reputation

694
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>for Bigfoot. Uh, you're neglecting what we got over here

695
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 1>because they saw a lot of them have never been

696
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>out here, you know. Again, they think of the city

697
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>like I'm originally from Massachusetts, but like, oh, you're from Boston. No,

698
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't live in the city. I lived in a

699
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 1>rural town, you know, a couple hours outside of Yeah.

700
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know.

701
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've been to Boston. My parents took us

702
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.199
<v Speaker 1>there when we were little kids on the Amtrak, you know,

703
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to go to the you know, check out the aquarium

704
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and all that good stuff. But you know, I grew

705
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I always grew up in the woods.

706
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 3>But to see the city. It's cool to see in

707
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 3>the city.

708
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't get me wrong, because it's some cool stuff in

709
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the city.

710
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, city, The city is good and cool

711
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.400
<v Speaker 2>for young, young adults, you know what I mean, our

712
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>young friends. Like I mean, I took my kids to

713
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Madison sut Garden to see the circus and down, you know,

714
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 2>to see the Nick Games, a range of games. Yankee

715
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Games City, you know, the statue of liberty, to empire,

716
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.760
<v Speaker 2>state building. The city is a beautiful place, but not

717
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 2>to live, you know what I mean. I don't want

718
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 2>to live in the city. I want to live up

719
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.320
<v Speaker 2>here in the country, you know, an hour and a

720
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>half away, you know, up in the woods I got.

721
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I got about one hundred acres of woods behind my

722
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:48.400
<v Speaker 2>house that was all apple orchards, and across the street,

723
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 2>I have another one hundred acres of wetlands. And I

724
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 2>like where I like. We don't have any sidewalks, we

725
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.400
<v Speaker 2>don't have any street lights. I love living up in

726
00:37:58.440 --> 00:37:59.400
<v Speaker 2>the country, you know.

727
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 3>All right, Oh yeah, absolutely.

728
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>A lot of your a lot of your upper class,

729
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.639
<v Speaker 1>upper class, rich city people are now moving to.

730
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.719
<v Speaker 2>The country, screwing everything up, that's for sure.

731
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, they're making they're making the cost of living go

732
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>up in the in these you know, country areas. Now.

733
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they're they're they're they're buying up all our

734
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.599
<v Speaker 2>farms and turning them into a million dollar homes. I mean,

735
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 2>that's all I see them. All right. Yeah, it works

736
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 2>for me because it makes the value of my house

737
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:34.639
<v Speaker 2>go up. But I got to be honest with you,

738
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Ever since COVID, all those people that moved up from

739
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the city. You don't know how much dirtier it is

740
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 2>now with these people living up here, because they just

741
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 2>to throw their crap out the windows of their cars,

742
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. They don't bring it home

743
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 2>with them and throw it in the garbage. And it

744
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.800
<v Speaker 2>drives me absolutely insane when I see that stuff on

745
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>the side of the road or you know, on the

746
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>parkway and stuff. It was never like that before. You know,

747
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.119
<v Speaker 2>I've been up here in thirty years, and when I

748
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>moved up here was really rural and it was beautiful

749
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 2>and it was peaceful, and there were no city folks

750
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 2>up there. That was the only city folk up here,

751
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 2>you know. And now it's it's they're really you know,

752
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>they're they're very inconsiderate people, and they I think everybody

753
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 2>should pick up after them like they're above you, you know,

754
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 2>because they're rich and stuff. And it makes makes me insane.

755
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:29.719
<v Speaker 2>But you know, that's one of my pet peeves.

756
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. Yeah.

757
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I had a question regarding I wanted to go back

758
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to when you were talking about the experience you heard.

759
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.199
<v Speaker 1>You've heard the scream on a couple of different occasions.

760
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 1>One of the one of the ways you described it

761
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:46.559
<v Speaker 1>was blood curdling.

762
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, the blood curdling scream, the blood curdling scream was

763
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 2>actually the Brahma ble get his head ripped off.

764
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it was the bull that was making that noise.

765
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh okay. When I heard the bigfoot scream at

766
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.239
<v Speaker 2>towards the window, when he thought there was another skunk

767
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:06.920
<v Speaker 2>ape there in the yard, you know, with him, that

768
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 2>was totally totally different than the than the Brahma bule

769
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 2>get its head ripped off. Yeah, it wasn't blood curdling.

770
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.360
<v Speaker 2>It was deeper. It was more of like a roar,

771
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.400
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Yeah, it was. It was

772
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:26.320
<v Speaker 2>more of a roar. It was weird because I'm behind

773
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:31.039
<v Speaker 2>a plate glass window and when it screamed at the

774
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.559
<v Speaker 2>its reflection in the window, I could swear I felt

775
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 2>they come through the window and my hair get blown back,

776
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. It was that powerful, you know.

777
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:45.639
<v Speaker 2>And when it got off into the woods where we

778
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.519
<v Speaker 2>used to have our bonfires and ride our dirt bikes

779
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, and it would go off in

780
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 2>there and it would echo through the woods. The animals,

781
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 2>all the animals, the horses and the cows, all the

782
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>animals were the dogs in the Neighborhoo would go off

783
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>everything when everything was just crazy, when crazy, you know,

784
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 2>when it when they did that.

785
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

786
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 3>So is there any.

787
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Kind of animal that you could like compare it to

788
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>or was it something just totally unique itself?

789
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>The sound only other thing I ever heard that sounds

790
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>not that it sound like the skunk ape, but it

791
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>was just as powerful. Was I heard a lion one

792
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:35.480
<v Speaker 2>time at the zoo having a bad day, and it

793
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.199
<v Speaker 2>was going off, I mean really really going off, so

794
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 2>much so that the people in that area where he

795
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.760
<v Speaker 2>was were all running away, you know what I mean. Wow,

796
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.320
<v Speaker 2>And everybody was running away from it, and you could

797
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like the the infrasound hitting you and freaking you out,

798
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:58.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, like my wife and kids, they stopped dead

799
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.840
<v Speaker 2>in their tracks, like where going any further? And the

800
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.519
<v Speaker 2>people that were in the area, because the way the

801
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:08.440
<v Speaker 2>lion then was set up, it was down in a pit,

802
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, so that war was coming up over the pit,

803
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:16.559
<v Speaker 2>and as everybody was running away from the lion, I

804
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 2>ran towards it, you know what I mean. It was

805
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.480
<v Speaker 2>the only thing that I ever heard at that time

806
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 2>that sound like it sounded like the big Foot, you know,

807
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:32.199
<v Speaker 2>it was that deep and that powerful and just that scary.

808
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, wow, it was really really this lion was

809
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 2>having a bad day. I don't know what this problem was,

810
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>but man, he was going off. And then the only

811
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 2>other thing I felt I ever heard that was as

812
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.440
<v Speaker 2>powerful as that was a dog man. But it was

813
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:53.280
<v Speaker 2>a totally different kind of sound that didn't sound like

814
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:55.599
<v Speaker 2>a big foot in any way, shape or form, but

815
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you could feel the power of its force when it's

816
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.760
<v Speaker 2>when it screamed or howled or whatever you want to

817
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:04.800
<v Speaker 2>call what it was doing, you know what I mean.

818
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 2>That was the only other thing I ever felt that

819
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 2>felt that powerful, totally different sound but just as powerful.

820
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well they must have one heck of a set

821
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 1>of lungs on them, because I mean, I've heard other

822
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:24.760
<v Speaker 1>stories where people like describe some very loud like baring

823
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 1>yells or screams.

824
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah they do when they do the one

825
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 2>thing you can you will never mistake a dog man

826
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>going off for a big foot, believe me. And they're not.

827
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 2>They're they don't even it's not even close. It's not

828
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 2>even close. The dog man's got this real weird, raspy

829
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of howl. Scream, whatever you want, to call it,

830
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 2>where the Bigfoot is much more basier, deeper, and it

831
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have like that, that's that rough kind of screen

832
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 2>to it. It's just pure power, you know, right, Yeah,

833
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's just totally different, different sounds, but they're

834
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 2>both as powerful. But the only day I ever heard

835
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>that sounded like the big Foot of the skunk gpe

836
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:13.519
<v Speaker 2>was the lion.

837
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, that's awesome though. Yeah.

838
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I couldn't believe it, you know what I mean.

839
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Like I flashed back to twelve years old when I

840
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:25.159
<v Speaker 2>was a kid in Florida when I heard that thing

841
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 2>go off, you know.

842
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you never forget any experience like that.

843
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.599
<v Speaker 2>No, And I had to go see for myself that

844
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 2>it was actually a lion and not a skunkcape, you

845
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:38.920
<v Speaker 2>know right. Like my wife and kids were like, no,

846
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 2>we're not going down there, Dad will stay up here.

847
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, I'm like that, you know, right.

848
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 3>So do you think since the seventies.

849
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Up to modern times do you think the sightings may

850
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>have increased or perhaps decreased?

851
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh second, yeah, I got you back, Okay, okay there,

852
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 4>so yeah, yeah, since the seventies up to now, do

853
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:14.880
<v Speaker 4>you think sightings either increased or decreased over time, or

854
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:17.119
<v Speaker 4>what's your take on that.

855
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I think they increased. I think there's more there's more

856
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 2>people intruding on their on their lands. Number one. I

857
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>think Colvin made a lot of people hikers, you know

858
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.320
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, And campers. They got a lot of yeah,

859
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 2>you know. So I think there's more people in the

860
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 2>woods hiking. I think they're they're they're they're invading. They're builders.

861
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Builders are invading on their territory and build. Like I said,

862
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>up here, we're losing all our farms to these giant,

863
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 2>million dollar homes, you know, where before it was just cattle, uh,

864
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, and horses and stuff like that. So there's

865
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.679
<v Speaker 2>more people up here now, there's more people hiking. I

866
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:05.159
<v Speaker 2>mean when I go out and and I'm I hate

867
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.239
<v Speaker 2>to he's the term researcher because I'm really not. But

868
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 2>when I'm just out there investigating, running around looking for stuff,

869
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:15.559
<v Speaker 2>and I see people in the woods, like these yuppies

870
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:18.360
<v Speaker 2>and stuff with their kids, and the kids are like

871
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty feet ahead of the parents, and

872
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the parents are on the phone and no one's paying attention.

873
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:27.599
<v Speaker 2>These kids are running around and I'm thinking, my god, man,

874
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to your kids. Something can grab something. Not

875
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.239
<v Speaker 2>only could something grab them like a big foot or

876
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:36.559
<v Speaker 2>a dog man. But you know, we have I don't

877
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:40.079
<v Speaker 2>care what anybody says. We have mountain lions in New York. Now,

878
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:43.679
<v Speaker 2>we have black bear. We even have wolves. The wolves

879
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:49.840
<v Speaker 2>are even back now, you know. So I mean, yeah, somebody, somebody,

880
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:53.039
<v Speaker 2>something can grab your child. And by the time you

881
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:55.440
<v Speaker 2>get around that bend to see where your child is,

882
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:58.639
<v Speaker 2>your child to be gone. And they walk around the woods,

883
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:02.440
<v Speaker 2>they walk around, they go in on arms. They're not carrying.

884
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean not that everybody should have a firearm on them,

885
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.719
<v Speaker 2>but at least some kind of survival knife or a

886
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:12.800
<v Speaker 2>walking stick or something to protect yourself in case you

887
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.239
<v Speaker 2>come up against a wild animal, you know.

888
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, some strong bear spray or something, Yeah.

889
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Pepper, some kind of bear spray, something that can you

890
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>could put between you and a wild animal. Because the

891
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.920
<v Speaker 2>woods are there's just tons of wild animals up here,

892
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>and and these kids are running around. The parents are

893
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 2>oblivious to it. And I'm like, you know, who am

894
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.679
<v Speaker 2>I to tell them how to raise their kids, you

895
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? So I keep my mouth shutting

896
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 2>I just watch and say, I say a prayers, and

897
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I hope these people, you know, catch up to those

898
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 2>kids before they get taken or something, you know, because

899
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I know what's in these woods. I spend a lot

900
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.519
<v Speaker 2>of time in these woods that night, you know, and

901
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.039
<v Speaker 2>I go in on all different kinds of you know,

902
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:02.880
<v Speaker 2>evenings I go out. I'll go in on Halloween. I'll

903
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>go in on a full moon. I'll go in when

904
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.119
<v Speaker 2>there's no moon. I'll go in when there's a lunar eclipse,

905
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 2>when there's a solar eclipse. I'm always going out in

906
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:18.159
<v Speaker 2>different times because I'm out there investigating how what's out

907
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.719
<v Speaker 2>there on certain nights and how the energy changes and

908
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:22.719
<v Speaker 2>all of that stuff, you know what I mean. So

909
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 2>I know it's out there. Man. I've seen so much

910
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:30.119
<v Speaker 2>stuff in the woods that you know, if I tell

911
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:33.840
<v Speaker 2>people what I've seen, that would definitely put me in

912
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.280
<v Speaker 2>a straight jacket and throw me in a panted room

913
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and throw the key away. Absolutely. Yeah.

914
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, considering you know things I know. Back

915
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.159
<v Speaker 1>when I first got involved with all this, you know,

916
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you didn't hear too many people talk about it. You know,

917
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it's only about fifteen years ago. But I mean people were,

918
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess, but they were more online. I discovered when

919
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 1>I got on social media. I discovered that, Wow, there's

920
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.199
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people all with this. But you know,

921
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:04.199
<v Speaker 1>they stayed inside their little groups on social media, you know,

922
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and discuss theories and different things. But you know, I guess.

923
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Over the years, more and more and more got out.

924
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, it was becoming I guess the best way

925
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:19.119
<v Speaker 1>to put it, less taboo. You know, reality was becoming more.

926
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It was becoming more of a reality to people, you know,

927
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.599
<v Speaker 1>even to the skeptics. I mean, there's more and more

928
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.320
<v Speaker 1>skeptics now than anything there. You know, I like a

929
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.039
<v Speaker 1>good healthy skeptic because they're considering that possibility.

930
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:34.400
<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, well you need you need to be

931
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.199
<v Speaker 2>you need to be. You need the skeptics to be

932
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 2>out there to question everything you do. And you and

933
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I believe you should question everything.

934
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 3>You know absolutely.

935
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, there are some people that no matter what

936
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.000
<v Speaker 2>you tell them or what you show them or how

937
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:52.519
<v Speaker 2>you present it, they're just not going to buy it

938
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.480
<v Speaker 2>in any way, shape or form, you know, And then

939
00:49:55.519 --> 00:50:00.280
<v Speaker 2>you have you know, and I understand because uh, it

940
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.760
<v Speaker 2>was bad enough with CGI and paradolia and stuff like that.

941
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.760
<v Speaker 2>And now we have AI and it's forget about it.

942
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:11.079
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna make stuff impossible to know the truth, you

943
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

944
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>So absolutely AI is flirting social media.

945
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:17.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean there are.

946
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>These fake pages putting out fake flyers and posters from

947
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>movies that are not even happening, you know, So you know,

948
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.119
<v Speaker 1>and now they're even using celebrity or they use AI

949
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:33.280
<v Speaker 1>images on creating celebrities and like you know, and so

950
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>much more.

951
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:36.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, I got them come across my feud

952
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:40.119
<v Speaker 2>all the time. There's celebrities promoting something that they know

953
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:44.000
<v Speaker 2>nothing about, you know what I mean, right, you know,

954
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 2>But but it's just gonna make it's gonna make the

955
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:51.039
<v Speaker 2>legitimate research is life a lot harder, you know, to

956
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 2>prove the real photos, you know, compared to the fake

957
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 2>ones and the real audio and stuff like that. So

958
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:05.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, I have all that equipment and I and

959
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I use it all. You know, I got everything when

960
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I go out, I got all kinds of digital I

961
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:12.519
<v Speaker 2>always you know, I always tell everybody, if you're gonna

962
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:17.239
<v Speaker 2>invest in digital voice recorders, get two from two different

963
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:21.480
<v Speaker 2>manufacturers because they use different frequencies. You know what I mean?

964
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:23.639
<v Speaker 2>And what you miss the one you may catch on

965
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:27.079
<v Speaker 2>the other. I got all of that stuff. I got

966
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.679
<v Speaker 2>a full spectrum, I got a night vision, I got

967
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:34.000
<v Speaker 2>a thermal, I got all kinds of stuff. But I'm

968
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:38.920
<v Speaker 2>more into at this stage of the game environmental readings

969
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:43.280
<v Speaker 2>and how the readings change when stuff is presented to

970
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the environment and what brings what in. There are certain

971
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:50.880
<v Speaker 2>frequencies and vibrations and stuff like that that you can

972
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.440
<v Speaker 2>put out there to bring to see what comes in.

973
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:56.519
<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's not always bringing in a Bigfoot.

974
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe sometimes you'll bring in a wind to go or

975
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:03.719
<v Speaker 2>dog man. You know, you don't know because you're experimenting

976
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:06.199
<v Speaker 2>with all of this stuff and you and you're just

977
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:11.000
<v Speaker 2>seeing what happens, you know what I mean. And we

978
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:15.719
<v Speaker 2>ran into something last this this Halloween was it this

979
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Helloween though I think it was last Halloween. My cousin

980
00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:20.400
<v Speaker 2>and I were out there and we ran into something.

981
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Psychic said, you're gonna see I have a team psychic.

982
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:28.800
<v Speaker 2>She's from Arkansas, she's Native American. She's like fifth generation psychic.

983
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:31.519
<v Speaker 2>And she didn't even tell me she was a psychic

984
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:35.440
<v Speaker 2>till three years after we knew each other, and she

985
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.199
<v Speaker 2>told us she is you're gonna see something. She called

986
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:40.480
<v Speaker 2>it a bear squad. She said, it looks like a bear.

987
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 2>It looks like a bigfoot, but it's got a bear's head.

988
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Be careful with this thing. It's very, very dangerous, you know.

989
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:50.559
<v Speaker 2>And I gotta be honest with you. When she tells

990
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:53.880
<v Speaker 2>me stuff like that, I think, like, what are you smoking?

991
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:58.559
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? But I've been working with

992
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 2>this woman for like fifteen years, and she's never wrong. Oh.

993
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Whatever she said this is going to happen, happens. And

994
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.800
<v Speaker 2>my cousin and I were out there and it was

995
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.239
<v Speaker 2>like a Halloween and it was like a lunar eclipse

996
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.599
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, and she said this thing was

997
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.039
<v Speaker 2>going to come out. And I had these quick, little,

998
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.760
<v Speaker 2>quick little story. I had glow sticks set up in

999
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:26.119
<v Speaker 2>a circle around us. It's different color glow sticks, and

1000
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 2>at one end of the one end of the area,

1001
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:32.599
<v Speaker 2>I had a yellow glow stick, and at one point

1002
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:35.639
<v Speaker 2>I was seeing three yellow gloves sticks. So I turned

1003
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.599
<v Speaker 2>to my cousin and go, sure, am I losing my mind?

1004
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Or is it three yellow glow sticks looking back at us?

1005
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, yeah, he goes, that's weird. There was

1006
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:45.880
<v Speaker 2>only one in that pack, and I go, yeah, what

1007
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:48.239
<v Speaker 2>the hell was that? So I said, come on, let's

1008
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:50.159
<v Speaker 2>go see what it is. So we got up and

1009
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:52.840
<v Speaker 2>we put our headlamps on. We had really powerful headlamps,

1010
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:55.559
<v Speaker 2>and we're walking over. They go say, that night there

1011
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 2>was like one percent of the moon, so it was

1012
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 2>really dark. So we're looking over and we get about

1013
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:05.880
<v Speaker 2>fifty feet maybe seventy five feet away from it, and

1014
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 2>two the yellow glow sticks blink. So I stopped my

1015
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:12.760
<v Speaker 2>cousin because but this is like the first time my

1016
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 2>cousin's ever been out squatshing, you know. And I stop

1017
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:18.719
<v Speaker 2>him and I say, Sean, light your machete. I'm gonna

1018
00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:21.280
<v Speaker 2>plow my machete because I don't know what we're walking

1019
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:25.639
<v Speaker 2>into here. So we start walking again, and we got

1020
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 2>our headlamps. There were there. They were food. They went

1021
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:30.559
<v Speaker 2>from flood to spot and put them on flood so

1022
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:32.599
<v Speaker 2>we can light up as much area as we can,

1023
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:36.280
<v Speaker 2>you know. And as we're getting closer, all of a sudden,

1024
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 2>this thing starts to stand up and it goes up,

1025
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's going up and up and up and up.

1026
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:45.239
<v Speaker 2>This thing is like ten feet tall, two thousand pounds

1027
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 2>and We're looking up at this thing and it's looking

1028
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:52.800
<v Speaker 2>at us, and my cousin's like, yo, cous what are

1029
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:55.679
<v Speaker 2>we doing? So we should start backing out. And as

1030
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:58.679
<v Speaker 2>we start to back out, it turns and it runs

1031
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.760
<v Speaker 2>north up the woods and it was like a four

1032
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:04.800
<v Speaker 2>foot stone wall and up here and then you probably know,

1033
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.760
<v Speaker 2>being from Massachusetts, we have a lot of stone walls

1034
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:11.320
<v Speaker 2>that just run through the woods in all different directions. Well,

1035
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:14.320
<v Speaker 2>this thing, we heard it crash through the woods and

1036
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was taking down treet I thought it

1037
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:18.360
<v Speaker 2>jumped over the stone wall and was taking down trees

1038
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:20.920
<v Speaker 2>on the other side. Well, the last time we went back,

1039
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:24.639
<v Speaker 2>we noticed that it had run through the stone wall.

1040
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:27.599
<v Speaker 2>It ran right through this stone wall that was four

1041
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:31.440
<v Speaker 2>feet high and about two feet thick, and it knocked

1042
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:35.679
<v Speaker 2>all the stones into the other direction, running north. And

1043
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.639
<v Speaker 2>at that point I called the psychic and she said, well,

1044
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:41.599
<v Speaker 2>I told you this thing was dangerous. Why did you

1045
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:43.559
<v Speaker 2>guys go towards it? And I was like, because we

1046
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:45.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what it was, and I wanted to see

1047
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:47.639
<v Speaker 2>what it was. I wanted to see what was looking

1048
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.760
<v Speaker 2>at us, you know, never thinking that it was a

1049
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 2>bear squatch until we got right, we've seen it, you know.

1050
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 2>And because I was thinking, she was saying bear squatch

1051
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking gugway maybe, you know, but I never

1052
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:03.400
<v Speaker 2>heard of a gugway in the Northeast, you know. And

1053
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.079
<v Speaker 2>so then we called her and she said, it's time

1054
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.239
<v Speaker 2>for you guys to leave, you know. So we said, okay,

1055
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:13.400
<v Speaker 2>we'll leave. And as we were leaving along the Appalachian Trail,

1056
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:16.440
<v Speaker 2>we were walking along the fifty two acre lake. The

1057
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:20.119
<v Speaker 2>trail ran along this lake. This thing must have came

1058
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.000
<v Speaker 2>back and threw a stone at us that was like

1059
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the size I don't know. It had to be like

1060
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:29.000
<v Speaker 2>a two hundred pounds stone because when it hit the lake,

1061
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the splash went up like twenty five feet, you know

1062
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:32.639
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

1063
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

1064
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:36.400
<v Speaker 2>And my cousin was like, what's that. I told him

1065
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:39.519
<v Speaker 2>it was a beaver, just a beaver, don't worry about it.

1066
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:43.440
<v Speaker 2>He's from the city, he doesn't know, you know, I'm

1067
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:46.760
<v Speaker 2>not familiar with the with the woods the country. So

1068
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:49.239
<v Speaker 2>he goes, that was just a beaver. I go, yeah,

1069
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.800
<v Speaker 2>we got big beavers up here, you know. And we

1070
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:54.559
<v Speaker 2>hiked out without any incident. And then when we got

1071
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:56.280
<v Speaker 2>to the car, I told him I said, yeah, I

1072
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:58.239
<v Speaker 2>just want to let you know that wasn't a beaver,

1073
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:01.840
<v Speaker 2>because yeah, I didn't think it was, but but we looked.

1074
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:04.519
<v Speaker 2>We looked up up on the hill because right where

1075
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:07.519
<v Speaker 2>we were there had been like a fire at one

1076
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:09.719
<v Speaker 2>point in the woods, so it was a clear clear

1077
00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:12.599
<v Speaker 2>almost like a clear cut from the fire. And we

1078
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.840
<v Speaker 2>were looking up there with our high powered headlamps and

1079
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.079
<v Speaker 2>our headlamps I didn't go like seven hundred feet when

1080
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:21.280
<v Speaker 2>you put them in the spot, and we were looking

1081
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:23.639
<v Speaker 2>for eye shine and everything, and we didn't see nothing

1082
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:26.400
<v Speaker 2>up there. So whatever this thing was, it was hiding

1083
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:30.079
<v Speaker 2>either behind a really big tree or a really big rock,

1084
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:32.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, because we didn't see any eye shine, We

1085
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't see anything you know, up there. But it definitely

1086
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the rock definitely came from above us, you know, to

1087
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.480
<v Speaker 2>the and over our heads. It wasn't trying to hit us,

1088
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I think it was just trying to

1089
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 2>get us out of that location. You know, we were

1090
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:47.559
<v Speaker 2>leaving anyway.

1091
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.559
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think the most cases, when you know,

1092
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:55.000
<v Speaker 1>when rocks get thrown, which I've had a football size

1093
00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:59.079
<v Speaker 1>stone thrown at me some years ago, you know, and

1094
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:02.360
<v Speaker 1>and I I think, yeah, exactly what you said. I

1095
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:05.199
<v Speaker 1>honestly believe they are just trying to intimidate you, like, hey,

1096
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:07.639
<v Speaker 1>get out of this area. You don't belong here, You're

1097
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:11.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, for whatever reason, you know, either if that's

1098
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the area they're inhabiting, or like the incident I had,

1099
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I think because there was young ones in the area,

1100
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, and you know they were just trying

1101
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to protect.

1102
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I mean they When I go out into

1103
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:28.360
<v Speaker 2>the woods, I don't usually light a fire for two reasons.

1104
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:29.960
<v Speaker 2>They I don't want to burn the woods down because

1105
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:33.159
<v Speaker 2>it's always in the fall. And number two, I don't

1106
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:35.400
<v Speaker 2>want to give away my location to anybody that may

1107
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:38.559
<v Speaker 2>be out there, you know. So I have glow sticks.

1108
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I put glow sticks down and whenever we're out there,

1109
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.039
<v Speaker 2>and I have like five different locations I go to

1110
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:47.599
<v Speaker 2>because different times of the year are different clans and

1111
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:51.480
<v Speaker 2>different different locations. And no matter where I go to,

1112
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll put a circle of glow sticks down around us,

1113
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:58.519
<v Speaker 2>and at some point during the night, they'll come in

1114
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:01.519
<v Speaker 2>and they'll start throwing a little at us. No one

1115
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:04.360
<v Speaker 2>ever gets hit. The rocks land on the other side

1116
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:06.360
<v Speaker 2>of the glow sticks. They don't even land in the circle.

1117
00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:09.239
<v Speaker 2>But when they want you to go, they'll let you

1118
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:12.239
<v Speaker 2>know it's time to go, and then you have to go.

1119
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:16.039
<v Speaker 2>And we usually get herded out to a certain point,

1120
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:20.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like one of my locations is four miles

1121
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:23.000
<v Speaker 2>deep in, so we get to about the two mile point.

1122
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 2>That's when they usually stop and turn around and go back.

1123
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:29.000
<v Speaker 2>But we usually get heurted out to that location, so

1124
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:31.519
<v Speaker 2>they know that we're actually leaving.

1125
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:31.440
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1126
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:35.639
<v Speaker 2>But like I said, we never One time, we were

1127
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:40.440
<v Speaker 2>actually doing an investigation on Hollow's Eve and it was

1128
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>a full moon and it was a meteor shower and

1129
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:46.559
<v Speaker 2>we didn't know what to really expect, and we heard

1130
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:49.079
<v Speaker 2>a fast squatch walk over to us with the parabolic

1131
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.079
<v Speaker 2>mic and it was walking over to us and it

1132
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:57.239
<v Speaker 2>was heavy and it whooped three times at us. Of course,

1133
00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't going to leave because the night was just

1134
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:01.920
<v Speaker 2>getting started and I thought there was I just felt

1135
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:06.320
<v Speaker 2>like there was more to come. And at one point

1136
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.639
<v Speaker 2>we didn't know that we were camped out right above

1137
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:13.320
<v Speaker 2>a dogman then, you know, so we weren't arms way,

1138
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 2>but we didn't know that it wasn't We weren't there

1139
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:19.079
<v Speaker 2>for the dogman. We were just there because I found

1140
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.519
<v Speaker 2>this location that was really it had three quartz crystal

1141
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 2>stones set up like in a pyramid, and I wanted

1142
01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:28.400
<v Speaker 2>to do all kinds of experiments. And then we were

1143
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:30.719
<v Speaker 2>going to work our way back. We had three locations

1144
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.679
<v Speaker 2>picked out that night, and work our way back towards

1145
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:35.079
<v Speaker 2>the car. But we're sitting there and we got the

1146
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:38.719
<v Speaker 2>three whoops, and you know, and my camera guys like,

1147
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I think it's time to go, and I go, no, no,

1148
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:43.480
<v Speaker 2>not yet, and we heard him come over with the

1149
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:47.039
<v Speaker 2>parabolic mic sounded like, you know, sounded like he weighed,

1150
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:49.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, a thousand pounds the way he was walking.

1151
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:56.719
<v Speaker 2>And at one point, this bigfoot threw a stone the

1152
01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:00.800
<v Speaker 2>sides of a bowl and ball. We were up on

1153
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:04.079
<v Speaker 2>a ridge about forty feet above the swamp and it

1154
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:08.239
<v Speaker 2>was west of the swamp, maybe one hundred feet west

1155
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:11.480
<v Speaker 2>of us, below us. It threw this stone. Not only

1156
01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:13.840
<v Speaker 2>did it throw the stone up towards us, but he

1157
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.199
<v Speaker 2>threw it over the top of the trees we were

1158
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:20.039
<v Speaker 2>sitting under. And this stone came down between me, my

1159
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:24.880
<v Speaker 2>cameraman and my tech guy and landed between us and

1160
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:27.960
<v Speaker 2>rolled down and hit my tech guy's chair and my

1161
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.519
<v Speaker 2>tech guy was like, I think it's time to go,

1162
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:33.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I was like, no, I'm not ready

1163
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:36.360
<v Speaker 2>to leave yet. But he threw that stone. It was

1164
01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:38.440
<v Speaker 2>a boll and ball sized stone. If that would have

1165
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:41.719
<v Speaker 2>hit anybody, it would have killed us. Oh yes, yeah,

1166
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:44.320
<v Speaker 2>he got it, He get it. He got it. He

1167
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:46.840
<v Speaker 2>got it in between three people perfectly, you know what

1168
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean. And he was trying to get us out

1169
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.400
<v Speaker 2>of there because we were in harms way. The long

1170
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:56.719
<v Speaker 2>story short, later on that night the dog man did

1171
01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 2>bluff charge us, come charging up the ridge, but that's

1172
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:03.519
<v Speaker 2>a different story. But he was trying to get us

1173
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:05.480
<v Speaker 2>out of there because we were in harm's leg, you know.

1174
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:09.440
<v Speaker 2>But we didn't know, We had no clue that, you know,

1175
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:11.960
<v Speaker 2>there was a dog man den in the swamp. We

1176
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:15.719
<v Speaker 2>couldn't see the way it was situated. It was camouflage perfect,

1177
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:20.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, behind the pack cattails that were like fifteen

1178
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.239
<v Speaker 2>feet high and stuff like that. So we well, even

1179
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 2>being up on the ridge, you couldn't see. You couldn't

1180
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:29.159
<v Speaker 2>tell there was a den in the swamp, you know.

1181
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.360
<v Speaker 2>So but like I said, I don't think they throw

1182
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:36.440
<v Speaker 2>stones at us hurt us. I think they want us.

1183
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I think they're letting when they start with the little stones.

1184
01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:43.800
<v Speaker 2>And again, this is just one man's opinion, you know

1185
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.519
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. Don't kill me on this, but I

1186
01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:49.280
<v Speaker 2>think when he throw the little stones at us, they

1187
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:51.960
<v Speaker 2>want you to know they're there. We're here now, you

1188
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:54.239
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. And then, like I said, we

1189
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:57.199
<v Speaker 2>were out of that one time and they were ready

1190
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:00.280
<v Speaker 2>for us to leave, and they broke a branch, a

1191
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:03.800
<v Speaker 2>fresh branch. It must have been had to be six

1192
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:07.360
<v Speaker 2>inches in diameter, but it was fresh because when this

1193
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:11.480
<v Speaker 2>branch broke, it sounded like a thirty odd six going

1194
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:15.000
<v Speaker 2>off by your ear. You know, if you would have

1195
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:16.559
<v Speaker 2>heard it from the other side of the woods, you

1196
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:20.199
<v Speaker 2>would have thought it was a gunshot. And I said, okay,

1197
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.800
<v Speaker 2>now it's time for us to go. That was like, okay,

1198
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:23.880
<v Speaker 2>it's time for you guys to go.

1199
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:24.159
<v Speaker 3>Now.

1200
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:26.119
<v Speaker 2>We want to hunt or whatever we want to do.

1201
01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:28.920
<v Speaker 2>And you're in our way, and we packed up and

1202
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.559
<v Speaker 2>we left, you know, like, okay, you know, we're in

1203
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:33.840
<v Speaker 2>your we're in your home. We're going to leave now,

1204
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.519
<v Speaker 2>you know. And uh, and we left, you know, but.

1205
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:39.840
<v Speaker 3>It was all this stuff in New York.

1206
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all in New York.

1207
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:44.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, very cool.

1208
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Now do you still do like campouts and in investigations

1209
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:49.880
<v Speaker 1>till this day?

1210
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, we went out. We went out this Halloween too.

1211
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we had enoughhing happened. We had nothing happened to

1212
01:03:56.519 --> 01:03:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Halloween too, but uh, yeah we go. I like to

1213
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:02.960
<v Speaker 2>go out a couple of times during I like to

1214
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.000
<v Speaker 2>go out once in the summer, at least once in

1215
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the summer, once in the fall, once in this once

1216
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:10.960
<v Speaker 2>in the spring, summer, fall, and once in the winter.

1217
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Because you know, the ones up here, they're not migrating

1218
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:19.400
<v Speaker 2>south down to Florida, you know what I mean. I

1219
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:23.000
<v Speaker 2>believe they migrate, but I believe again one man's opinion.

1220
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Don't kill me on this. I believe they migrate in

1221
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:29.639
<v Speaker 2>a circular pattern, you know what I mean. And that

1222
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and that range may be you know, three thousand miles

1223
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:36.000
<v Speaker 2>worth of range. I don't, you know what I mean,

1224
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Because they're and I think they do that so they

1225
01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:42.800
<v Speaker 2>don't kill all the prey, all the animals out in

1226
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the area that they're eating, you know what I mean.

1227
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:48.400
<v Speaker 2>And it takes them, it takes them like a whole

1228
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:51.960
<v Speaker 2>year to get back to your location. That's why I said,

1229
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I got five different locations, and each each location is

1230
01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:59.599
<v Speaker 2>a different plan there at a different time of the year,

1231
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:03.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So, but the one location

1232
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 2>I've been working at the longest I call the Sacred Site.

1233
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I've been working there the longest, and they're always there.

1234
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:13.719
<v Speaker 2>They're there in the summer, you know, to a certain extent,

1235
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:17.719
<v Speaker 2>but they're always there in the fall. They're always there

1236
01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:20.639
<v Speaker 2>in the floor. And I think they're there because there's

1237
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:25.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of acorns there. I mean, zillions and zillions

1238
01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:28.199
<v Speaker 2>of acorns. There's just so many of them, it's ridiculous.

1239
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:31.440
<v Speaker 2>And I think they're they're harvesting those acorns and they're

1240
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.239
<v Speaker 2>eating they're eating those they're putting them away for the winter,

1241
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:39.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, for protein during the winter. So oh yeah, yeah,

1242
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:42.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, yeah, just again, just one man's opinion,

1243
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1244
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:46.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's totally cool.

1245
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:48.719
<v Speaker 1>The one reason I was asking if you still do

1246
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:53.440
<v Speaker 1>all that is, you know, we we usually host two

1247
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:55.679
<v Speaker 1>group camp outs. Usually we try to do one in

1248
01:05:55.719 --> 01:05:58.719
<v Speaker 1>spring and one in the fall. Our actually next schedule

1249
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:01.760
<v Speaker 1>one is coming up May. It's May eighteenth through the

1250
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:05.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth. The location where, of course it's here in

1251
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Virginia and we're in a different area than we normally

1252
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:13.199
<v Speaker 1>camp at because this area here is very interesting and

1253
01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:15.159
<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of reports from there.

1254
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:17.280
<v Speaker 3>But we're returning there.

1255
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:20.119
<v Speaker 1>We were there back in October, but we're returning here

1256
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:24.079
<v Speaker 1>come May. And I was going to say, if you're

1257
01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:26.239
<v Speaker 1>up for I wanted to throw the invite out to you,

1258
01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you and your crew. If you guys want to come

1259
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.960
<v Speaker 1>down and camp out with us and check that area out,

1260
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:32.079
<v Speaker 1>you're more than welcome to you.

1261
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:35.360
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I got to be brutally honest, which I

1262
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:38.119
<v Speaker 2>would love to do that in a heartbeat, but my

1263
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:42.800
<v Speaker 2>anniversary falls on May fourteenth. Yea, oh, well, you know

1264
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:44.880
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I know my wife would be happy

1265
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:50.119
<v Speaker 2>if I left to go down there for around our anniversary,

1266
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:53.199
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. But it may be a

1267
01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:57.000
<v Speaker 2>little difficult to get away at that time. But are

1268
01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:59.719
<v Speaker 2>you like in the Shannondola Valley or anything like that.

1269
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's exactly Yeah, that's exactly where I'm at.

1270
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:05.519
<v Speaker 2>So we're at yeah, yeah, yeah, I know there's at

1271
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:07.159
<v Speaker 2>a hot spot down there for sure.

1272
01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1273
01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.

1274
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:11.559
<v Speaker 2>I would love to do it, Believe me, I would.

1275
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I would be down to me. My cousin. We would

1276
01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:16.320
<v Speaker 2>be down here in a heartbeat. I'd even invite Chris

1277
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:21.079
<v Speaker 2>rein Harfro discover Sasquatch because he's, oh yeah, he's been

1278
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:23.960
<v Speaker 2>coming down to my location. And I was supposed to

1279
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:29.960
<v Speaker 2>go up to his location this uh this fall with him,

1280
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:35.280
<v Speaker 2>but something came up and I couldn't make it up there,

1281
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So, and like I said,

1282
01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:39.880
<v Speaker 2>he's he's like an hour and a half north to

1283
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:44.760
<v Speaker 2>me in Connecticut. But you know, so I'm going with him.

1284
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I want he's coming with me. I'm going up to

1285
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:51.840
<v Speaker 2>his location where we're sharing locations and doing stuff. And

1286
01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:54.239
<v Speaker 2>so you know, I know Chris would do it in

1287
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:57.679
<v Speaker 2>a heartbeat. Chris's Chris goes all over the United States,

1288
01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and he went he went with Doug Hicheck last two

1289
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:02.599
<v Speaker 2>years up to snow Grove with them. You know what

1290
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

1291
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, So I mean.

1292
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know Chris would do it in a heartbeat.

1293
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:10.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, I just would have to be able to

1294
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:12.719
<v Speaker 2>work around my anniversary.

1295
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, I totally get that. No, that's totally

1296
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.359
<v Speaker 1>understanding of camping.

1297
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I pulled all the camping gear and everything last summer.

1298
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I got all kinds of stuff, all brand new stuff

1299
01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:28.439
<v Speaker 2>because Chris and I plan on camping out at these locations,

1300
01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:30.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, and we just haven't got around to it yet.

1301
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure.

1302
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Well i'll definitely you know, let you know about when

1303
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:39.600
<v Speaker 1>we schedule our fall our next ball one, which we're

1304
01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna probably do around September. We did October this last

1305
01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:46.520
<v Speaker 1>year of this past year here, but uh, usually we

1306
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:49.800
<v Speaker 1>try to do it in September. Of course October. It

1307
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:52.279
<v Speaker 1>was pretty good in October, but yeah, we had some

1308
01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:54.840
<v Speaker 1>very cold nights. They dropped down into the teams.

1309
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh you know.

1310
01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we had a couple of cold night it's

1311
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:02.840
<v Speaker 1>out there in October, but it's uh, you know, we're

1312
01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:04.800
<v Speaker 1>out here in the mountains too, Yeah.

1313
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Mountains, absolutely, Yeah, I know. I've been out there. I've

1314
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:10.640
<v Speaker 2>been out. I've been It seems like every time I

1315
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:14.640
<v Speaker 2>go out, it's always like, you know, twenty degrees or

1316
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:18.119
<v Speaker 2>fifteen degrees or twelve degrees. It's never nice and warm.

1317
01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:19.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, Like when I go out in the fall,

1318
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:23.279
<v Speaker 2>you think, okay, let's get out there in October. It

1319
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:28.000
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't really be that bad. But as it seems like

1320
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:30.239
<v Speaker 2>every time I go out, it's always in the teens,

1321
01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:34.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, always it's always cold out, you know, it's time.

1322
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:37.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have a ski suit that I wear

1323
01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:40.520
<v Speaker 2>a body it's a full body ski suit, and yeah,

1324
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:43.479
<v Speaker 2>it's waterproof and all of that stuff, and it really

1325
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:45.960
<v Speaker 2>does keep you warm, you know what I mean. It's

1326
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.920
<v Speaker 2>a great It's a great thing to have if you're

1327
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:51.680
<v Speaker 2>going to be out in the elements doing this kind

1328
01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:55.880
<v Speaker 2>of research, you know, right. I love it to death

1329
01:09:56.039 --> 01:10:00.920
<v Speaker 2>and it works great. But you know, the other guys

1330
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.159
<v Speaker 2>that I'm with don't have that, you know what I mean,

1331
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:05.720
<v Speaker 2>And they can only take the cold for so long

1332
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:08.279
<v Speaker 2>and then they everybody wants to pack up and go,

1333
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, so, uh, you have to you have to

1334
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:13.159
<v Speaker 2>be a team player, you know what I mean, and

1335
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:15.079
<v Speaker 2>do what everybody wants to do.

1336
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:17.000
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, I get that.

1337
01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I would love to come down here, man.

1338
01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I would be down there in a heartbeat. Absolutely, I

1339
01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:24.520
<v Speaker 2>would be down. I would love to get into the

1340
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Shannanolah Valley. Oh my god, not only for the sasquat stuff,

1341
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:33.199
<v Speaker 2>but the paranormal stuff. Oh my god, must be insane.

1342
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh there's plenty of that around here.

1343
01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:39.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could imagine, Oh, my god.

1344
01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got some friends of mine, real good friends

1345
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of mine who actually.

1346
01:10:46.119 --> 01:10:47.479
<v Speaker 3>Are well, they're sponsors for.

1347
01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:49.760
<v Speaker 1>My event as well that I put on every June

1348
01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:53.800
<v Speaker 1>down here and there. They're a paranormal team, which they

1349
01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:57.760
<v Speaker 1>have their own paranormal series going on called Hometown Haunts,

1350
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and I was actually the very first one.

1351
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:01.560
<v Speaker 3>They filmed for.

1352
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.039
<v Speaker 1>It's called the Beast of Elkhorn Lake, who was based

1353
01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:08.600
<v Speaker 1>off of my twenty fourteen characters. Okay, that yeah, they

1354
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.680
<v Speaker 1>they got Okay.

1355
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean I bet my bottom dollar I've

1356
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:15.279
<v Speaker 2>seen that for sure.

1357
01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1358
01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:20.399
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, of course that's that's around.

1359
01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:21.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well that was filmed.

1360
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:23.319
<v Speaker 1>That was my main research area. But I mean there's

1361
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:26.399
<v Speaker 1>other areas I've been investigating as well. It's all part

1362
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:28.800
<v Speaker 1>of the National Forest, don't get me wrong, but yes,

1363
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:32.479
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, there's other areas I kind of been neglecting,

1364
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:36.159
<v Speaker 1>and you know where things are slowly starting to heat

1365
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:37.600
<v Speaker 1>up a little bit in some of the years as

1366
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:41.079
<v Speaker 1>we learned a little bit more information and you know.

1367
01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:45.399
<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, again, we'll be there in May and

1368
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure probably.

1369
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Let me write those dates down, give me those dates again.

1370
01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:52.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here by my desk I got the paper

1371
01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:54.800
<v Speaker 2>paper right here, give me, give me those dates again.

1372
01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:59.359
<v Speaker 1>So the spring camp out May eighteenth of the twenty

1373
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:07.079
<v Speaker 1>four spring. Yeah, now we yeah, we don't have dates

1374
01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:10.800
<v Speaker 1>uh for the fall one quite yet, but that will

1375
01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:12.520
<v Speaker 1>be in September.

1376
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, all right, so you know, and then if

1377
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:21.159
<v Speaker 2>you want to, may be able to make it because

1378
01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:24.640
<v Speaker 2>it's after my it's after my anniversary, so you know

1379
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:25.039
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

1380
01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean if you can't, just see I

1381
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:30.479
<v Speaker 1>keep in touch and let me know because I only

1382
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't put the location out publicly on social media.

1383
01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:37.199
<v Speaker 1>I only give it out like the GBS formats to

1384
01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:40.199
<v Speaker 1>those who I talk to you personally about it.

1385
01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:44.560
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'd love yeah man.

1386
01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Because we learned after a few of us

1387
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:51.159
<v Speaker 1>have left, my friends David and Melissa were still at

1388
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:53.720
<v Speaker 1>camp and there was another couple that came down from

1389
01:12:53.720 --> 01:13:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania and uh, to make a long story short, uh,

1390
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the couple that were there, you know, from where our

1391
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:05.239
<v Speaker 1>campus said up at They rode down the gravel road

1392
01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:07.600
<v Speaker 1>to the gate to where you have to park at

1393
01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:09.159
<v Speaker 1>the gate and walk in to get to where the

1394
01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:13.119
<v Speaker 1>lake is. And they had just pulled into they were

1395
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 1>just pulling up to the gate and the wife was

1396
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:18.640
<v Speaker 1>looking over as they were turning in making that turn

1397
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:22.760
<v Speaker 1>to park. The wife thought she saw a bear. And

1398
01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:27.560
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, she doesn't have no comprehension of wildlife,

1399
01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:33.399
<v Speaker 1>how they behave and what they do. Right, she's looking

1400
01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:36.720
<v Speaker 1>over and she's telling her husband, oh my god, there's

1401
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a bear.

1402
01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:41.479
<v Speaker 3>There's a bear, you know. And then her husband's like, oh, no,

1403
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:43.640
<v Speaker 3>don't worry about it. Don't worry about no bears.

1404
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:45.239
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to bother the rest. Plus I got

1405
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:49.960
<v Speaker 1>my side on with me, blah blah blah. Well, after

1406
01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:53.439
<v Speaker 1>they leave that area and go back to camp, she

1407
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:57.039
<v Speaker 1>starts talking about it. And she's talking with you know,

1408
01:13:57.159 --> 01:13:59.760
<v Speaker 1>David and Melissa, and her husband even didn't even know

1409
01:13:59.880 --> 01:14:02.479
<v Speaker 1>the details. But when she looked over and saw it,

1410
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:06.000
<v Speaker 1>she started standing there off the edge of behind the gate,

1411
01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:09.279
<v Speaker 1>behind some trees, and all of a sudden, she said,

1412
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:13.560
<v Speaker 1>it ran off really fast after standing there, and like,

1413
01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:15.840
<v Speaker 1>they were like, what are you talking about? Ran off?

1414
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, she said it was on two feet.

1415
01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:18.640
<v Speaker 3>It was.

1416
01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:21.920
<v Speaker 1>She described it standing up and it ran off while

1417
01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:26.279
<v Speaker 1>it was channing up, and they were like, bears don't

1418
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:29.920
<v Speaker 1>run on two feet. They will stand and walk a

1419
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:33.199
<v Speaker 1>little bit on some occasions. But for what she saw,

1420
01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:36.720
<v Speaker 1>it was standing around almost six feet tall and jetted

1421
01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:40.560
<v Speaker 1>across that forest road back into the woods, and it

1422
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.600
<v Speaker 1>was on two feet the whole time. So we believe

1423
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:46.319
<v Speaker 1>she saw it small. Yeah, that's what we were thinking.

1424
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:50.000
<v Speaker 1>But after they explained to her and got the details

1425
01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:52.960
<v Speaker 1>from her, it's like, yeah, you didn't see a bear.

1426
01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, but you're probably better off not telling her

1427
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.640
<v Speaker 2>she's because you probably didn't sleep the whole time she

1428
01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:03.520
<v Speaker 2>was down there.

1429
01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:07.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, they came down they well, I guess they felt

1430
01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:10.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of secure and we were all tank camping. They

1431
01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:12.000
<v Speaker 1>had they brought the small camp. Yeah, they brought a

1432
01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:16.680
<v Speaker 1>camper with them, Okay, yeah, So and they had their

1433
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, they had their little dog too. So and

1434
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.479
<v Speaker 1>my friend David Melissa, they bring your German shepherd with her,

1435
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, with them, So and that German somebody. Her

1436
01:15:25.039 --> 01:15:28.720
<v Speaker 1>name's Luna. She's still a young, young dog. But she's

1437
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:31.439
<v Speaker 1>very nice to have around because you could tell it's

1438
01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:33.960
<v Speaker 1>interesting watch her at night when we're sitting around the fire.

1439
01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:36.079
<v Speaker 1>She'll send things. You can see her get alerted to

1440
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:36.960
<v Speaker 1>certain things, you know.

1441
01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the one thing I had the German shepherds

1442
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:41.840
<v Speaker 2>for fourteen years. That the best lugs in the world.

1443
01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:46.920
<v Speaker 2>The one thing about German shepherds they're very voicy, so

1444
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:50.520
<v Speaker 2>they will let you know if there's something around. They

1445
01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:54.000
<v Speaker 2>will start barking and barking and barking. Oh my god.

1446
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:56.279
<v Speaker 2>They love to hear themselves bark.

1447
01:15:57.239 --> 01:16:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, she's a good dog.

1448
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love but uh yeah, so yeah.

1449
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:08.560
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of history around the area. The information,

1450
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:11.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the reports and the information I've learned,

1451
01:16:11.640 --> 01:16:15.399
<v Speaker 1>uh from this particular location. You won't find information on

1452
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the data the b f r O database. You know,

1453
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:19.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out in this area they don't

1454
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:22.560
<v Speaker 1>they don't talk openly or some of them, A lot

1455
01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of them don't know about the bf r O, you know,

1456
01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:28.079
<v Speaker 1>right right, you know, I mean you're this is these

1457
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a country folks.

1458
01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:34.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, I do a lot of I do. I

1459
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:39.239
<v Speaker 2>spend a lot of time either at pow wows talking

1460
01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:43.119
<v Speaker 2>to the elders or the medicine men, oh yeah, to

1461
01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:46.560
<v Speaker 2>pick their brains. We have an Airquois museum up here

1462
01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:49.319
<v Speaker 2>not too far from me that I spend a lot

1463
01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:51.399
<v Speaker 2>of time at. You know, now that they know who

1464
01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:55.159
<v Speaker 2>I am. They will talk to me openly about certain

1465
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:59.239
<v Speaker 2>things that they wouldn't do in the beginning, you know,

1466
01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:02.159
<v Speaker 2>but after being there a lot, you know, and then

1467
01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:04.920
<v Speaker 2>getting used to seeing you there, and hey, you know,

1468
01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:06.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm one of those guys that can I ask

1469
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:09.119
<v Speaker 2>you a question? Can I ask you a question? You know?

1470
01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:12.359
<v Speaker 2>And one leads to another. And I'm the type of

1471
01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:15.359
<v Speaker 2>guy like my son won't go my son won't go

1472
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:17.239
<v Speaker 2>anywhere with me because I'm the type of guy. If

1473
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I make eye contact you with you online at the

1474
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:24.119
<v Speaker 2>grocery store, we can get into a half hour conversation

1475
01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:26.119
<v Speaker 2>like we've known each other our whole lives, you know.

1476
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:28.840
<v Speaker 2>So my son won't go out with me just because

1477
01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I talk to anybody and everybody, you know. But oh

1478
01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:36.920
<v Speaker 2>that's the way you find stuff out, you know, and

1479
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:40.039
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, you learn things, you know, like I was

1480
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:43.000
<v Speaker 2>told about this. There was a little a Native American

1481
01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:45.319
<v Speaker 2>shop in my town when I first moved up here

1482
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:49.520
<v Speaker 2>thirty years ago, and that's how I met the I

1483
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 2>think they were Mohegans. I think they were from the

1484
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Mohegan truck. That's how I met the elders there, and

1485
01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:59.520
<v Speaker 2>then they turned me on to the there's a couple

1486
01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.479
<v Speaker 2>of different and how wills that they do where you

1487
01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:05.439
<v Speaker 2>get like five or six different tribes, you know, and

1488
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:07.359
<v Speaker 2>then you know, you go there and now I have

1489
01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:09.640
<v Speaker 2>it in because I know the I know the elder

1490
01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:12.720
<v Speaker 2>from this from the store, you know, in the Native

1491
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:16.359
<v Speaker 2>American store, and then he introduces me to these people

1492
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:19.279
<v Speaker 2>and he's start talking in because you have an inn

1493
01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:24.279
<v Speaker 2>who is someone who's an elder that's well respected, they'll

1494
01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:26.840
<v Speaker 2>talk to you about stuff. You know, if you just

1495
01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:28.520
<v Speaker 2>go in there cold and I don't know you from

1496
01:18:28.520 --> 01:18:30.119
<v Speaker 2>a hole in the world, you're never going to get

1497
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:31.520
<v Speaker 2>anything from anybody, you know.

1498
01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

1499
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:39.479
<v Speaker 1>I learned through uh from my father's father's side of

1500
01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:44.039
<v Speaker 1>the family, because my father's father, he's Canadian French and

1501
01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:47.119
<v Speaker 1>somewhere along the lines he's got what they called nick

1502
01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Mac Indians, which they originated out in Nova Scotia and

1503
01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:53.520
<v Speaker 1>settled in the main and through other parts of Canada.

1504
01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:56.960
<v Speaker 1>And also there there is air Corps from my understanding,

1505
01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:01.319
<v Speaker 1>somewhere along the blood line there, but also from my

1506
01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:02.840
<v Speaker 1>father's side of the family, so.

1507
01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:06.119
<v Speaker 3>Nothing from his mother's side.

1508
01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:10.079
<v Speaker 1>She was she was one hundred percent Italian, Okay, so

1509
01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:13.479
<v Speaker 1>she was a Frenchman that married an Italian woman. You know,

1510
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 1>had my father who end up marrying an Irish woman.

1511
01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:28.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah.

1512
01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:30.079
<v Speaker 3>Uh so.

1513
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's all kinds of interesting history behind all the

1514
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:37.359
<v Speaker 1>bloodlines and you never know what might be there at

1515
01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:40.399
<v Speaker 1>some point in time or you know, all that good stuff. Yeah.

1516
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I've gone through all kinds of stuff of my bloodline too,

1517
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:48.079
<v Speaker 2>And you know, my my family dates my on my

1518
01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:52.760
<v Speaker 2>father's side goes back to the ancient Romans, you know, Okay,

1519
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:58.760
<v Speaker 2>And my mother's side, she was from northern Italy and

1520
01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:04.720
<v Speaker 2>her father, her grandfather was a count or something like that,

1521
01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:07.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know, like I said, her family had royalty

1522
01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:12.640
<v Speaker 2>in it on her side and my father the bloodline

1523
01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:16.239
<v Speaker 2>goes back to ancient Rome. And we've had two I

1524
01:20:16.239 --> 01:20:20.720
<v Speaker 2>think we researched the family line back to two high

1525
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:23.760
<v Speaker 2>ranking officials in the in the Roman legion. One guy

1526
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:26.199
<v Speaker 2>was like I guess he would cold you would consider

1527
01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:29.079
<v Speaker 2>it to be like a colonel in today's army. And

1528
01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:33.800
<v Speaker 2>his son, his son was captain of the Pretorian guard

1529
01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:37.000
<v Speaker 2>that actually protected the emperor when his son got older,

1530
01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:39.439
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So, and they were both

1531
01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:42.560
<v Speaker 2>had the same name as my father, you know, which

1532
01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:47.840
<v Speaker 2>My father's name was Fabio. So yeah, yeah, it was.

1533
01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:50.640
<v Speaker 2>It was funny. You know. It's just crazy when I

1534
01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:54.520
<v Speaker 2>did when I did my show for the Travel Channel,

1535
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I did a UFO show for the Travel Channel. They

1536
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:00.680
<v Speaker 2>took my blood type and it was a whole bunch

1537
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:02.199
<v Speaker 2>of us on the show, you know what I mean,

1538
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:05.960
<v Speaker 2>And they took everybody's blood type and mine was the

1539
01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:09.760
<v Speaker 2>other one that came back HR negatives and they're like, dude,

1540
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:14.760
<v Speaker 2>you may be alien, you know, you know, I don't know,

1541
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:19.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe it could be. It was. It was funny, you

1542
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:21.520
<v Speaker 2>know that I was the only one that came back

1543
01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:25.079
<v Speaker 2>with the HR negative stuff. But uh, you know, again,

1544
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:28.680
<v Speaker 2>who knows how how legit that stuff is, you know,

1545
01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:31.720
<v Speaker 2>with the bloodlines and stuff like that. But my last

1546
01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:34.560
<v Speaker 2>name in Italian means holy line.

1547
01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, yeah.

1548
01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Again, bloodlines, names, stuff like that. Just I don't know.

1549
01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:44.760
<v Speaker 2>It's just all kinds of all kinds of work for me,

1550
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.159
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Like I couldn't make this

1551
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:48.720
<v Speaker 2>stuff up if I wanted to.

1552
01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:54.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, right, yeah, yeah, I think there're the small

1553
01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:57.560
<v Speaker 1>percentage that I have of Italian I can't remember. I

1554
01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:01.119
<v Speaker 1>think it might be I'm might be southern only I

1555
01:22:01.119 --> 01:22:05.640
<v Speaker 1>can't remember I did that DNA thing. There were you

1556
01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:10.039
<v Speaker 1>know where most of it came back or whatever, and

1557
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:12.119
<v Speaker 1>when we saw it was a lower percentage of the

1558
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Italian than it was on the French side. And my parents,

1559
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:17.000
<v Speaker 1>even my mom's like, I thought you would have had

1560
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>more more Italian than you than you have this as

1561
01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this what's coming back, but you know.

1562
01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Ye, everybody comes back with the Iberian Peninsula. It's like

1563
01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:32.159
<v Speaker 2>everything is Iberian Peninsula, Liberian Peninsula. I don't know what

1564
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:34.359
<v Speaker 2>that means, but it all comes back. It always goes

1565
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:36.920
<v Speaker 2>back to that. And I was like, I don't know

1566
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:39.119
<v Speaker 2>how this stuff was, you know what I mean. Like

1567
01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:44.119
<v Speaker 2>my wife is half Italian and half Irish, but her

1568
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:47.920
<v Speaker 2>father's family is from southern Italy. I think college at

1569
01:22:47.960 --> 01:22:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Calibre is or something like that, Colabria, that's where they're from.

1570
01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Southern Italy. My family is from Rome and my mother's

1571
01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:59.079
<v Speaker 2>family is up north in like Milan up that way.

1572
01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>So okay, uh yeah, as I know, Like I said,

1573
01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't keep up with it too much now, but

1574
01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:10.119
<v Speaker 1>every so often, your your DNA platform, it kind of

1575
01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:14.159
<v Speaker 1>gets updated as they discover more and things get dug into,

1576
01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and like some of your percentages do go up a

1577
01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit, but it's not entirely too much of a

1578
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:23.880
<v Speaker 1>change on what they kind of produce or you know,

1579
01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>what they show.

1580
01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.279
<v Speaker 3>But so, like I said, I kind.

1581
01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Of every now and then I'll get email notification from

1582
01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the DNA thing, and so, yeah, we have an update

1583
01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>about so and so and your family, you know, blah

1584
01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:37.239
<v Speaker 1>blah blah.

1585
01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, my family, being from being the tying and being

1586
01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:44.279
<v Speaker 2>from the city, my family kind of don't want to

1587
01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:48.079
<v Speaker 2>do that DNA thcause nobody wants to have their DNA

1588
01:23:48.199 --> 01:23:49.880
<v Speaker 2>on file, you know what.

1589
01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Right, Yeah, don't don't do the DNA thing.

1590
01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:56.039
<v Speaker 2>You'll put all our DNA on file. So it's like

1591
01:23:56.439 --> 01:23:59.399
<v Speaker 2>it goes it's like a wildfire when it goes through

1592
01:23:59.399 --> 01:24:02.479
<v Speaker 2>our family. Whatever you do. Don't called Gina telling us

1593
01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:06.720
<v Speaker 2>to do that DNA thing. They stay away from that

1594
01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:11.800
<v Speaker 2>DNA stuff because you know, everybody, everybody's related and if

1595
01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>one of my cousins do it, then my stuff is

1596
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.640
<v Speaker 2>out there too, you know. So it was like, stay

1597
01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:17.920
<v Speaker 2>away from that stuff, you.

1598
01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Know, right, it's cool. Nonetheless, you know.

1599
01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>They say the less lea, Yeah, my wife did it absolutely.

1600
01:24:27.079 --> 01:24:30.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, my mom.

1601
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:32.000
<v Speaker 1>She she did it to the point where she paid

1602
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:35.439
<v Speaker 1>into it more to learn more history. I think one

1603
01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>of the coolest things that she shared with me that

1604
01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:42.159
<v Speaker 1>somewhere along her family bloodline someone she had somebody that

1605
01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>was in the Civil War, which I thought, oh wow, that's.

1606
01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Cool, you know, very cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1607
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I learned a little bit about the Civil War when

1608
01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:54.479
<v Speaker 1>I moved down here. I kind of got into that

1609
01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:56.279
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know, I learned the history and stuff.

1610
01:24:56.319 --> 01:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm a I'm a history buff. I love history,

1611
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:02.840
<v Speaker 2>so I read. I always read, you know, especially when

1612
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:06.479
<v Speaker 2>I was younger. I was always reading about world history

1613
01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:10.439
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the United States history, and I'm just

1614
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm attracted to like war and stuff like that. So

1615
01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:17.119
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of my thing, you know. So like whether

1616
01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:23.359
<v Speaker 2>it's Native American wars against the you know, the the Americans,

1617
01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>or you know us fighting whoever, you know what I mean,

1618
01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:31.039
<v Speaker 2>or find amongst ourselves as everything on everything when it

1619
01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:34.520
<v Speaker 2>comes to war, I love, I just love history, you know,

1620
01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:37.840
<v Speaker 2>And I think, like my I got my son is like,

1621
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:41.399
<v Speaker 2>who cares about history, It's already happened. I'm like, he

1622
01:25:41.520 --> 01:25:44.000
<v Speaker 2>drives me nuts when he says stuff like that, are

1623
01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:45.239
<v Speaker 2>you out of your mind?

1624
01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:46.279
<v Speaker 3>You have to.

1625
01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Learn from the past that you don't make the same mistakes,

1626
01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:54.119
<v Speaker 2>otherwise you'll make the same mistakes over and over again,

1627
01:25:54.239 --> 01:26:01.159
<v Speaker 2>you know. But you know, yeah, he's not that way.

1628
01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:04.520
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want he doesn't care what happened in the past.

1629
01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:07.239
<v Speaker 2>He's always worried about that. He's young, he's worried about

1630
01:26:07.239 --> 01:26:08.199
<v Speaker 2>the future, you know.

1631
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:11.479
<v Speaker 3>So take it one day at a time.

1632
01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:14.359
<v Speaker 2>That's how I take it, brother, One day at a time.

1633
01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't stress anything. I don't worry about anything. I

1634
01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>don't stress anything. If I if I got no control

1635
01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:24.319
<v Speaker 2>over it, then I'm not going to stress over it,

1636
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:26.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. It's not going to All

1637
01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:28.479
<v Speaker 2>that stress is just going to make you sick. Like

1638
01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:31.159
<v Speaker 2>my wife stresses if the sun's going to come up tomorrow,

1639
01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:33.920
<v Speaker 2>my god. You know, I'm like, son's going to come up,

1640
01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:36.039
<v Speaker 2>comes up every single day. Don't worry about it, you

1641
01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:39.720
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. I just I don't stress over shit.

1642
01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:42.479
<v Speaker 2>I just I just roll with it. I think one

1643
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>day at a time, and I roll with I roll

1644
01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:46.920
<v Speaker 2>with it and I get through one day at a time.

1645
01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>That's it. My wife says, well, you know, you go out,

1646
01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:52.600
<v Speaker 2>you go to these goddamn woods and you do all

1647
01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>this crazy stuff and you put yourself at risk, and

1648
01:26:55.960 --> 01:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>you put other people at risk, and you know, you

1649
01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:00.920
<v Speaker 2>can get killed out there. I'm like, yeah, I know,

1650
01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:04.079
<v Speaker 2>but that's what I love doing. So, you know, I mean,

1651
01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't force anybody to come with me, you know

1652
01:27:07.319 --> 01:27:10.399
<v Speaker 2>what I mean if they want, everybody signs waivers and

1653
01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:14.840
<v Speaker 2>confidentiality clauses and everything else. You know, I'm not getting

1654
01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:18.199
<v Speaker 2>sued for anything when someone gets hurt out there. And

1655
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:22.479
<v Speaker 2>but you know, everybody or everybody that comes out with

1656
01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:24.960
<v Speaker 2>me loves loves it the way I love it, you know,

1657
01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:26.960
<v Speaker 2>So we love being out there.

1658
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:27.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1659
01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Do we put ourselves in harm's way? Absolutely? Could we

1660
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>have been killed a hundred times off or absolutely? If

1661
01:27:35.039 --> 01:27:38.319
<v Speaker 2>these creatures that are out there wanted to kill us,

1662
01:27:38.760 --> 01:27:42.600
<v Speaker 2>they could have killed us many times. But here here

1663
01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:45.439
<v Speaker 2>I am. I'm still here. So what does that tell you?

1664
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:49.239
<v Speaker 2>They're not as dangerous as everybody makes them out to be,

1665
01:27:49.239 --> 01:27:52.399
<v Speaker 2>because if they were, there would be nobody going in

1666
01:27:52.439 --> 01:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the woods because and the ones who go in the

1667
01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:55.800
<v Speaker 2>woods would never come out, you know, So.

1668
01:27:56.399 --> 01:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean That's the way I look at it,

1669
01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, you know, people think crazy because over

1670
01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the years I've spent a lot of times out there

1671
01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>by myself, hiking, exploring camp and numero times by myself,

1672
01:28:07.800 --> 01:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, I mean, and you know we

1673
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>all know about all the other wild animals live out there.

1674
01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's it's whatever, But you know

1675
01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>we take that chance because you know, we love the adventure.

1676
01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>We love exploring and learning, uh in hopes of discoveries

1677
01:28:23.680 --> 01:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of other things. But you know, that's the way I

1678
01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:27.159
<v Speaker 1>look at it.

1679
01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I find it exciting, you know what I mean. It

1680
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>is thrilling to to live on the edge like that.

1681
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:38.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, when stuff comes into camp and you don't

1682
01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>know what it is, and it's sniffing around, and you know,

1683
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:45.279
<v Speaker 2>like I can't get out of the tent fast enough

1684
01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:50.039
<v Speaker 2>to see what's out there, you know, right, It's like, no,

1685
01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:52.399
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm there for. I want to see what's

1686
01:28:52.479 --> 01:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>out there, you know exactly.

1687
01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:57.479
<v Speaker 1>And not to mention, you know, it's a you get it,

1688
01:28:59.079 --> 01:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I know for me, I'm I'm sure for many others,

1689
01:29:01.720 --> 01:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, but just being out there in nature, it's

1690
01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:10.079
<v Speaker 1>like a it's a world and a home in itself

1691
01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:14.159
<v Speaker 1>where you find you find peace out there. It's like

1692
01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of.

1693
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Like it's it's a zend thing for me too. Absolutely

1694
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:24.000
<v Speaker 2>when I'm when I'm in the woods. Not that I'm

1695
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:26.279
<v Speaker 2>a great white hunter or anything like that, a little

1696
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:28.720
<v Speaker 2>hunting as a kid with my cousins and stuff, but

1697
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm just I just I love being in nature. I

1698
01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:37.199
<v Speaker 2>love being surround. I just feel like all my energy

1699
01:29:37.279 --> 01:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>is in harmony, you know what I mean. I feel

1700
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:41.880
<v Speaker 2>like that's where I'm supposed to be, you know, And

1701
01:29:42.520 --> 01:29:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I love being out there. And like I said, I've

1702
01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:49.159
<v Speaker 2>never had anything bad happen to me, and any you know,

1703
01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:51.600
<v Speaker 2>people say, oh, you got you know, rocks thrown at you.

1704
01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:55.159
<v Speaker 2>That's that's a you know, No, that's not that's that's

1705
01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>not violence. You don't. I don't consider that to be

1706
01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:00.520
<v Speaker 2>a violent issue, you know what I mean, because no

1707
01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:03.600
<v Speaker 2>one ever gets hit with any rocks, you know, Or

1708
01:30:04.039 --> 01:30:06.239
<v Speaker 2>oh you had a tree that was broke, that sounded

1709
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:09.119
<v Speaker 2>like a gunshot, isn't that you know? That's a warning. Yeah,

1710
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:11.840
<v Speaker 2>it's a warning. But you know, if you leave, you

1711
01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:13.680
<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about it, you know what I mean.

1712
01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:15.039
<v Speaker 2>The only time you have to worry about it is

1713
01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:18.800
<v Speaker 2>if you stay now. I've I've pushed the envelope a

1714
01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:21.079
<v Speaker 2>couple of times over the course of my life, you

1715
01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:23.800
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Because I'm the type of guy

1716
01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:26.079
<v Speaker 2>who gets vibes and like, if I feel like there's

1717
01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>still more to come, I won't leave, even though everybody's like,

1718
01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:31.359
<v Speaker 2>come on out, let's go. You know, I kind of

1719
01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:36.439
<v Speaker 2>like force the issue. But again, we've always we've always

1720
01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:40.199
<v Speaker 2>walked out one piece, you know, so exactly.

1721
01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same here.

1722
01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:46.520
<v Speaker 3>But tell you what, as we're getting.

1723
01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Ready to come to a clothes I want, I want

1724
01:30:48.319 --> 01:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>to give this.

1725
01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I want to hand this over for you.

1726
01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you want to throw out there to

1727
01:30:53.159 --> 01:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the public that you want them to know?

1728
01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Just the same thing I tell everybody that squatches. First

1729
01:31:02.760 --> 01:31:05.920
<v Speaker 2>of all, don't go looking for dog men. You don't

1730
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:08.479
<v Speaker 2>need to go looking for dog men. You know what

1731
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean. Dog man it's a whole different animal. And

1732
01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>you really don't want to You really don't want to

1733
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:17.479
<v Speaker 2>find dog man, and you don't want dog men to

1734
01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>find you. They will come to your house. They've come

1735
01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:25.399
<v Speaker 2>to my house on a couple of occasions. It's not

1736
01:31:25.479 --> 01:31:27.479
<v Speaker 2>like the sasquatches come into your house, it's a whole

1737
01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:30.239
<v Speaker 2>different animal. But when you do go in the woods,

1738
01:31:30.279 --> 01:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>protect yourself physically, you know, and protect yourself spiritually because

1739
01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:38.680
<v Speaker 2>there are things in the woods other than wild animals

1740
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:42.079
<v Speaker 2>that can attach themselves to you and harm you in

1741
01:31:42.159 --> 01:31:46.279
<v Speaker 2>other ways or harm your family members. So always protect

1742
01:31:46.279 --> 01:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>yourself spiritually and physically when you go out. And another thing,

1743
01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>if you go to those stupid Halloween haunting houses and

1744
01:31:55.720 --> 01:32:01.439
<v Speaker 2>cemetery tourts, protect protect when you go in, sage when

1745
01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:03.520
<v Speaker 2>you come out, because I can't tell you how many

1746
01:32:03.560 --> 01:32:07.640
<v Speaker 2>times I know how many people have taken Darth things

1747
01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:11.199
<v Speaker 2>home with them from those locations. So please protect going

1748
01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>in and sage when you leave.

1749
01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Awesome.

1750
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've actually heard a lot of similar things too

1751
01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:19.159
<v Speaker 1>like that.

1752
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:22.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's awesome.

1753
01:32:22.840 --> 01:32:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

1754
01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I can't thank.

1755
01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:26.119
<v Speaker 3>You enough for being on.

1756
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I had a great time, man, I had a great time.

1757
01:32:28.760 --> 01:32:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Thank you for having me, man, I have

1758
01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the pleasure was on mine.

1759
01:32:33.319 --> 01:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I definitely want to make sure I get you

1760
01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:37.439
<v Speaker 1>back on here too, because on some occasions we do

1761
01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>have roundtable discussions that go all over the place. But

1762
01:32:40.800 --> 01:32:44.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're fun, you know, so perhaps somewhere in

1763
01:32:44.079 --> 01:32:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the near future, because you know, we're well we're in

1764
01:32:47.399 --> 01:32:51.439
<v Speaker 1>the middle of January already, and so yeah, I've been

1765
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>covering a lot of podcasts in them up of January,

1766
01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:57.039
<v Speaker 1>which I'm about to get a little busy, so I

1767
01:32:57.159 --> 01:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>probably picked back up towards either towards the into January,

1768
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>come back in February or February, depends on my schedule

1769
01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and what's going on with me.

1770
01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:09.000
<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, yeah, if I'm available, I definitely would

1771
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:11.960
<v Speaker 2>love to sit in with you guys and chew the fat,

1772
01:33:12.079 --> 01:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, and see what we could

1773
01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:17.359
<v Speaker 2>come up with. But absolutely, just drop me a line

1774
01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:20.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'll, uh, as a matter of fact, when we

1775
01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:22.840
<v Speaker 2>get off there, I'll give you my personal phone number.

1776
01:33:22.880 --> 01:33:24.560
<v Speaker 2>You can just call me, you know.

1777
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, absolutely absolutely, and.

1778
01:33:27.880 --> 01:33:30.039
<v Speaker 1>I'll definitely keep in touch and you know, kind of

1779
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>keep your filling in on, you know, the camp out

1780
01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:34.319
<v Speaker 1>if you know, if that's what you think you can

1781
01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:37.159
<v Speaker 1>work out. I mean, if not, I totally understand.

1782
01:33:37.279 --> 01:33:41.239
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, some things are out of my control, you

1783
01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean?

1784
01:33:42.840 --> 01:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Right, absolutely, And with this being said, I'm going to

1785
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:50.279
<v Speaker 1>close this. I got a little commercial ad. I'm gonna

1786
01:33:50.279 --> 01:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>go out there to close us out. But again I

1787
01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:56.159
<v Speaker 1>want to thank you again and uh we'll be in

1788
01:33:56.199 --> 01:34:00.479
<v Speaker 1>touch soon. Okay, all right, have a good either. Thanks

1789
01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>again night, DCBRO. Bigfoot Radio fans, It's time to grab

1790
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:10.079
<v Speaker 1>your pens, your calendars and start writing down these dates

1791
01:34:10.079 --> 01:34:13.039
<v Speaker 1>for these upcoming events. In the twenty twenty five year,

1792
01:34:13.880 --> 01:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>February eighth, the ECBRO is hosting a big Foot in

1793
01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Lunch gathering in Lexington, Virginia, happening at the Legendary Eats Cafe.

1794
01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:25.039
<v Speaker 1>If you have a Bigfoot story or if you're just

1795
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>a fan of Bigfoot and you want to learn what's

1796
01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>going on with the ECBRO and I know who they

1797
01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>are and what they do.

1798
01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:32.720
<v Speaker 3>This event's for you.

1799
01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a free event. The only thing that is going

1800
01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:37.159
<v Speaker 1>to cost you if you want to buy off the

1801
01:34:37.199 --> 01:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>menu and enjoy a delicious meal while you sit among

1802
01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:43.039
<v Speaker 1>other researchers.

1803
01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:44.199
<v Speaker 2>All right.

1804
01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Moving ahead in the month of March March twenty nine

1805
01:34:46.720 --> 01:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>is the pen Ohio parn omal Con happening at the

1806
01:34:49.880 --> 01:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Timomy Biquot Center and Book Free Ohio.

1807
01:34:53.399 --> 01:34:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

1808
01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>That is also sponsored and hosted by mister Bill Rigby.

1809
01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Jumping into the month of June, boy do we have

1810
01:35:04.079 --> 01:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>some awesome stuff going on in June again.

1811
01:35:07.439 --> 01:35:08.079
<v Speaker 3>I hope you're.

1812
01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Marking this down and I'll hope you prepare yourself to

1813
01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>attend these events. June sixth, seventh, and eighth happening in Marionville, Pennsylvania,

1814
01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>the Forest County Bigfoot Festival. The event that's grown so

1815
01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:28.079
<v Speaker 1>huge it's unbelievable. You're going to want to attend this event.

1816
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Over one hundred vendors, food trucks, and guest speakers. This

1817
01:35:34.039 --> 01:35:37.079
<v Speaker 1>event is something you want to attend. Not to mention

1818
01:35:37.239 --> 01:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>if you'd like to go squatching. There is the Alleganty

1819
01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:43.079
<v Speaker 1>National State Forest nearby. You're going to want to check

1820
01:35:43.119 --> 01:35:49.479
<v Speaker 1>that forest out. It's very squatching. June twentieth and twenty

1821
01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>first happening in Where's Cay, Virginia at the Where's K

1822
01:35:53.960 --> 01:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Community Center is the annual ECBRO Virginia Bigfoot Conference right

1823
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>there being held at the Community Center and Where's Cay, Virginia.

1824
01:36:03.760 --> 01:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Both indoor and outdoor vendors, guest speakers for an activity

1825
01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and contest for the kids.

1826
01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:12.159
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna want to check this out. If you've never

1827
01:36:12.199 --> 01:36:12.520
<v Speaker 3>been to.

1828
01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:15.159
<v Speaker 1>This event, it's very fun. You get to meet up

1829
01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:18.119
<v Speaker 1>with other light minded people get to go out and

1830
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:20.319
<v Speaker 1>hang out with them in the evenings around the fire.

1831
01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>If you're get that special invite, you get to have

1832
01:36:23.279 --> 01:36:25.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot more. You're gonna want to check that out

1833
01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and start becoming a part of that event, because that

1834
01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>is not just in an event, it's like a family gathering.

1835
01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>That's June twentieth and twenty first, so feel free to.

1836
01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Check that out.

1837
01:36:37.359 --> 01:36:39.720
<v Speaker 1>And ladies and gentlemen happening in.

1838
01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:40.600
<v Speaker 3>The month of June.

1839
01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Also June twenty sixth, twenty seventh, and twenty eighth happening

1840
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>in Sutton, West Virginia is the annual Western Virginia. You

1841
01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:56.039
<v Speaker 1>have Bigfoot Festival, another massive, huge festival with over one

1842
01:36:56.119 --> 01:36:59.439
<v Speaker 1>hundred a vendors, all kinds of activity and fun and

1843
01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>content us for kids and people of all ages, guest steakers, celebrities,

1844
01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:07.239
<v Speaker 1>people you're going to want to get to know, get

1845
01:37:07.239 --> 01:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to meet and learn from.

1846
01:37:09.520 --> 01:37:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Ladies and gentlemen.

1847
01:37:10.119 --> 01:37:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys are taking the time to mark

1848
01:37:11.840 --> 01:37:14.760
<v Speaker 1>these dates and these locations down. If you have any

1849
01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>questions regarding any of these events, send an email to

1850
01:37:18.359 --> 01:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>ecb r O ninety eight at gmail dot com.