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Speaker 2: Just fine, I'd be here great.
Speaker 1: So well, the reason you're here is because Antelope Hill
has done a third printing, a third edition of your
classic The Culture of Critique. But before we get into
that and start talking about that, let's let you tell
everybody a little bit about yourself and specifically talk about
what is an evolutionary psychologist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a retired professor of psychology at California State
University in Long Beach, and evolution of psychology is an
attempt to understand the human mind. I guess human social
behavior psychology in terms of evolutionary history. And so there's
a tendency to think of a lot of things that
humans do as a result of our revolution. You know,
evolutionary psychologists talking about modules. So you know, humans are
wired to be attracted to the opposite sex in general,
and and that sort of thing, and you know there
we're tendency to form coalitions and groups, and uh, so
that we explore that and talk about aggression and other
things and how it's modulated various ways. My own work
evolutionary psychologist, I studied the child development and applied evolutionary
psychology to that and personality psychology. My view is that
personality is based on five basic systems and they are
evolved systems. There are sex differences and some of them
that are very important and and can be understood in
terms of evolution evolutionary psychology. Women are tend to be
more fearful, more conservative in a lot of things. Men
are more aggressive and assertive, and uh, you know, they
want to be dominant in social situations much more than
women in general. But that's the sort of thing I did.
I wrote a lot of papers on that and on intelligence,
uh and and and intelligence as as as as an
evolved system that enables us to be very flexible. We're
not rigid like animals tend to be, where they have
sort of programmed responses to the environment. We we can
mix things up and create new strategies, react to the
present situation and uh, you know, figure out costs and benefits,
what will happen in the future, and that sort of thing.
So that that's very advanced cognitively, and that's why what
makes us human and we it was so interesting and
important why we dominate the planet and sadly for the animals,
you know, we're extriminating them rapidly.
Speaker 1: Well, we're here to talk about the book, the Culture Critique,
and the title of that book refers to the Jewish people.
How did you What do you think gave you the
impetus for to start studying them? What was what was
the what was the spark?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, the spark was that it was like a
dogma in evolutionary psychology that humans were always self interested
in that the idea of groups being a sort of
unit of natural selections something evolution worked on, was a
non starter because people, humans are always going to be
maximus interest and so on, and I don't think it
was right. And I wrote a book in nineteen eighty eight,
Social and Personality Development. The last chapter was on the
Spartans in Greece, and as the Spartans were a very
important group historically, probably saved the West from the Persians
a long time ago. And the idea was that the
Spartans were a group strategy, so they had a ways
to socialize their children to be warriors. Essentially, the male
all men would become soldiers. The women would you know,
basically become wives of soldiers. And have to deal with
the fact that they would die, they would bear children
and that sort of thing. But it was extremely militaristic
society from day one. They were socialized, they were taken
away from the parents and put in the special training facilities,
and so they became a very effective fighting force, incredible
group cohesion. And what that means is group cohesion is
self interest was muted. You can control individual self interest,
and that's what this Spartans did. And then after I
wrote that book, I said, well, where can I go
from here? And it was still very extremely controversial. I mean,
this was at the absolute origins of talking about what
I became to be known or was known as a
group selection, that groups could be a unit of selection,
that a group that's more is better put together, has
a better culture and able to compete in the world
in an attractive way, that they're going to do well.
And I means all the genes of those people in
the group are going to do better. It doesn't matter,
you know. And these are not the only two groups,
of course that have competed over history. It's just that
Jews that thought were very interesting and I didn't know
much about them at the time. Didn't have any preconceived
notions really except that, well, I was concerned frankly about
the Israel lobby even back in the nineteen eighties, and
it bothered me even then. Jimmy Carter, when he went
to New York, he started immediately going on how wonderful
Israel it was. He changed his mind later. Uh, And
but but that was the origines of it, and then
I just decided to elaborate on it in my books
on Jewish and the first book was called The People
of Football Alone is basically, uh, you know, the theory
of a group evolutionary strategy. Groups can ensure cohesion. So
you can you commute self interest in these groups? Uh
where Uh Jewish groups did? They would they would levy
taxes on Jews and if you didn't pay, you'd be expelled.
They would prevent Jews from marrying other people non Jews,
and in general they acted to further the interests of
the group. So the whole Jewish morality is what's good
for the group, what's good for the Jews. And that's
a cliche, isn't it, And it's true, It's very true.
And even now you look at the Gaza thing and
most shoes still in this country, despite the slaughter often
I think correctly called genocide. They are going to side
with Israel because that's good for Israel, and they see
that as good for Israel, and that's all liberally matters
and anything. If you complain about that, you're in any
semi And we see increasingly that there is no free
speech on Jewish issues. Students who have protested on Palestine
have been rounded up, a far cry from what happened
to the Black Lives Matter protesters that were greeted on
the left. They were relyingized in the media and they
didn't suffer in a legal consequence as well. With this,
on the other hand, students are being expelled. If they're
foreign students, they are being deported. And students who get
you know, run apologies your lobby are having very serious consequences.
And so Jews do not believe in free speech. And
that's another thing I emphasize. Jews don't have principles, they
have interests. So you might see, especially American conservatives are
going to are going to have principles, that is, things
that they believe in, and they would you know, oftentimes
to the point that they don't believe in their own
self interest. I mean they want to. They believe in
free speech even though it's going to you know, influence
them negatively in some way. Jews don't think that way,
Jews saying is it good for the Jews? And so
right now, I mean, back in the nineteen fifties, Jewish
groups were all in favor of civil liberties, free speech
because communists, many of whom were Jewish, were being brought
up in congressional committees and they were going over their
Communist connections, and you know, so the Jewish groups were
all in pay or of free speech, and you had
a whole whole literature on that in the nineteen fifties,
and I discussed that a couple of places, but you
know that disappeared now because Jews are in the driver's seat,
and so they instead want people to shut up about
Jews and don't talk about Gaza, don't be negative, don't
be pro Palestinian and this struggle over there, and that
they will shut people down. So the ADL is pioneered
trying to scrub the Internet of anything they don't like.
They have pioneered so called hate speech laws that would
inhibit people from saying bad things about the Holocaust or this,
that and the other thing, and we are the first
Amendment here, but in Europe that's not the case, and
they have really clamped on free speech over there, and
you know, to the point where you know, if you
offend somebody that hurts somebody's feelings, the police are likely
to pay you a visit. In the UK, I just
saw a story about one of those today, so you know,
it's a very different world out there. And the Jews
there are activist organizations like the Adel doing all they can
to circumvent the Person Amendment, and Jews Supreme courtesse like
Elena Kagan have talked about how to get around it,
and so they always emphasize, you know, pre speech ends
where someone is threatened or injured or something like that,
and as you know, you don't want to support violence.
But at the same time, they have a very thin skin,
and we'll call it just if anything hate that they
don't like. So that's you know, how I got into it,
And the more I read the second book was called
Separation is Contensus on any Semitism over history, and basically,
by the point there was all the major outbreaks of
many Sevenitius. I wasn't talking about, you know, people being
unhappy about something, talking about the riots, the programs, the
expulsions over and over again in European history. So I
talked about that, you know, with including a chapter on
national socialism and talking about national socialism as a sort
of an opposed mirror image group strategy against the Jews.
That they were fundamentally concerned about competing with Jews and
liked the Jews. They didn't have any qualms about you know, basically,
you know, they didn't have a lot of moral scruples.
Came to the Jews in the same way that Jews
have not had moral scruples when it comes to dealing
with non Jews. You know, if you look at Jewish ethics,
it's really about Jewish interests, and non Jews have no
moral value. I mean, they can be treated anyway that
advances your interest as a Jew. And you see, you
go to your Wikipedia and read the entry on Jewish ethics,
it's like fantasyland. It has nothing to do with Jewish ethics.
Throughout history, I mean, Jews were the great slave traders
and everything else. So there's just a lot of you know,
mythology going on there. So that was the second book.
The third book, Folks, is in the twentieth century. It's
The Culture of Critique now in the third edition, and
that focuses on Jewish influence in the West in the
twentieth century. The subtitle is an ablutionary analysis the Jewish
involvement in intellectual and political movements in the twentieth century.
And so it's focused narrowly on this century, last century
now and so I talk about various influential movements, and
I talk about the Boas in anthropology, and basically the
idea is to show that these the central figures there
had strong Jewish identity, that they interacted with other Jews,
they formed these cohesive groups that were able to have
strong influence. In their case, they dominated the American Anthropological
Association from about nineteen twenty five, and the eradicated the
idea of race, which is very common at the time.
And then I talk about Jews in the left. You know,
very long history of Jewish involvement with the left, and
a lot of emphasis on what happened in the Soviet
Union the early decades of the Soviet Union, the slaughters,
the mass murders, Jewish involvement and all that, and the
Jewish identity of these people. It's like that, it's not
like they are common things that you hear from Jewish apologists. Well,
they weren't really Jews. They were communists. Well they were
also Jews, and they you can show that they had
a strong Jewish identity and they cooperated as Jews. And really,
you know, we're pursuing Jewish interests because there was this
long hatred. And that's the thing about the Jews. They
have a grudge on their shoulder. I talked about the
programs in the long history Jews in Europe. Well, from
their point of view, Jews have been innocent victims the
whole time. They ordered anything wrong to anybody, and it's
all irrational and crazy on the part of non Jews.
So I talk about that. I talk about things like,
actually I had a chapter on neo conservatism to the
new edition, because that would in nineteen ninety eight. When
I wrote the first issue, the first constantiation of this
first edition, I didn't talk about neol concert. I didn't
think you were very important. I mean, I have a
little footnoting chapters chapter on Jews in the left, because
they're shore An outcross the Jews in the left. But
then in the Bush administration they really came to the fore.
Suddenly I realized, and a lot of people realized that
we were going to war for Israel, and there's a
very strong Jewish lobbyist country. So I have a chapter
now on new Conservatives, talk about their history, talk about
their Jewish identities, and talk about their influence. They're still
extremely influential. You know, Mike Johnson right now this rigure
at the House, he's talking about Republicans can't be isolationists,
and what that means is cold word is we have
to keep intervening and you know, promote American power and
conform me with Jewish interests. So I have a chapter
in psychoanalysis. I have a chapter on the Frankfurt School.
I have a chapter on the New York intellectuals. And
importantly I have a chapter on immigration, which has been
all this stuff has been updated. This new edition is
for longer than the second edition, and that's longer than
the first edition because I added like an eighty page
preface this time I got. The preface is over one
hundred pages and a lot of new stuff in there.
So it's really a new book and very you know,
it's a long book. It's over seven hundred pages. I
apologize for that, but anyway, that's what it is. And
then I talk about Jewish involvement. As I said Press,
the most important chapter is Jewish involvement of immigration policy
because society as usubted within the West, and it really
everwhere they have advocated immigrations. You just realized after World
War Two they could not allow a homogeneous white society,
and they took upon themselves to promote immigration, and it
took them a long time. They were repeated in nineteen
twenty four, and then we had forty years of very
low immigration. But then in nineteen sixty five the gates
were opened. And here we are where whites are slave
to become a minority in this country and throughout the West,
you know, in Germany and England, Scandinavia, everywhere. So very important,
very influential group. And that's the thing I mean. I
talk about Jewish power in the new edition. I talk
about background traits that facilitate this, that make it, make
was influential. You know, the intelligence, the wealth. A lot
of Jewish influence comes down to wealth because they fund
these NGOs if they fund political candidates, and if you're
a political politician and you go against Israel, you will
find your opponents in the next election. You'll probably be
primary and in any case, your opponent will have a
huge amount of money and will have good media coverage
and all that. So I talk about Jews and the
media in the new preface. That's an update from two
thousand and two edition. But yeah, Jews are still very
much involved in the media. Go into that. I go
to Jews in the university and all these things.
Speaker 1: Let me jump on immigration for a second there, because
there's a couple other things I want to I want
to highlight. But Maurice Samuel's book You Gentiles, Yeah, that
book is just you read it and you think that
you're you're just reading the rantings of a madman, and
well you get to the end of it and you
realize the reason he wrote this screed is because of
the nineteen twenty four.
Speaker 2: Immigration Act, right exactly. That's it.
Speaker 1: And then you have to ask yourself. It's like, Okay, sure,
there are Catholic charities you can talk about, there are
Lutheran charities you can talk about. But when it comes
down to it when you look at places like like
there's a town in Pennsylvania, Charleray, I can't remember what
it is there where all these Haitians just showed up
and it's Jewish family services that are coming in to
bring the money and to find them housing. And then
you find that all over the place. And when you
realize that and you go, okay, well, you know, Catholic
Charities is over here. Look at the names of some
of the people on the Catholic Charities board. They don't
I'm Catholic. I haven't seen these names in church ever.
And then you look at you look all over the
place and you're like, oh, okay, well this makes sense.
I mean, they they truly believe that you can if
you have a multi racial society, multicultural society, and that
everybody is fighting with everyone else, this small group can
organize well enough, and they're funded internationally with unbelievable amounts
of money, and they can run the show in everything,
in everything that's important.
Speaker 3: That's sadly true the case. Yes, as I said, money
is very important for them, and they fund you know,
promegration movement now and they I didn't realize that about
Catholic charities actually, but there's also the Hebrew Immigrana Society,
I mean, and they're very much in Ball. But I
know all these NGOs have been have been financed also
by the federal government, and they got to cut that
completely out because you know, basically the pederal government has
been putting on the left for a long time. And
but Jewish activism is very important for trying to understand
what is going on in America in the West. You
can't understand much of anything without that. It's real phenomena.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about critique. So it seems that you know,
I'm going through on the show about episode seventy two
of just going over Alexander Solciani since two hundred years together.
And when you look at the history of these people,
every where they go, they seek to change, They seek
to change the culture, change how things are done. Yeah,
what beyond beyond the survival mechanism? You know that that
seems that that seems like somebody who's you know, reasonably intelligent,
could be like, oh, this is a survival mechanism.
Speaker 2: Beyond that, what else is there? Why?
Speaker 1: Why do they have to go into a culture that
has existed for one thousand years and destroy it beyond Oh,
we need to change it so we can survive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, then they they believe that. You know, again,
they have a huge grudge on their shoulder. From their
point of view, Western history is nothing but persecution. Middle
Ages you had expulsions, you had the Catholic Church had
began in the fourth century, was a lot of very
uh vehement anti anti semi. It's like on Saint John Crutistan,
who still has a chapel in the Vatican. And so
it goes back a long long ways, and Jews became
more and more powerful in the West, especially after World
War Two that they were influential before that. Certainly Lodge
Jews in Roosevelt's candidate, in Wilson's candidate, but it really
wasn't until after World War Two that any semi has
basically disappeared. And then in nineteen thirties you had Henry
Ford and you had Father Charles Cofflin and people like that.
So any Semitism was in mainstream, you might say, But
after World War Two it was not, and Jews ascended
the heights of American society. You know, they're not stupid,
they're intelligent, and they headed for the most elite institutions, Harvard,
the Ivy League institutions, Wall Street. The media should already
been substantially under Jewish control for a long time. I mean,
even in the nineteen thirties, the broadcast networks like CBS,
NBC were owned by Jews. Hollywood studios are all owned
by Jews, going back to the early nineteen twenties, even
before that, and so it was a gradual process. And
when a big watershed that was the nineteen sixties, Amazon
College in the nineteen sixties, and it was just apparent
in me that Jews were leading all the protests, that
Jews were deeply involved in the anti war protests of
the period, and they were on the left, and I
knew many of them because I had Jewish roommates in
the whole nine yards. And they're very proud of being Jews,
thought of themselves as superior to non Jews, thought of
non Jews as sexually uptight and repressed, and very sort
of psychoonalitic point of view, very common in those days.
But in nineteen sixties you had this huge countercultural revolution
and nothing was the same after that. You know, I
grew up in the nineteen fifties and expected you're going
to get married, you're going to have an engagement, and
you're going to hold off on sex until after marriage
and all that that completely went out and people started
living together and everything at that point, and the old
sexual mores and the left really made an ascendence in
the culture as a whole. And that was the real,
really the rise of Jews in the culture. And you know,
we're still living in that era. Jews have not really
lessened in their power. If anything, they've increased their power.
And here we are once again. I mean, this has
happened before in history where Jews have become dominant and
you know, sometimes a lot of times they end up
getting you know, there's a movement against that and it's
sometimes quite successful, and Jews understand that, but they don't
ever stop being Jews and never ask themselves what did
we do to foment this? And they never asked that,
and they're not going to ask that. I mean, it
really is part of Jewish identity. I talk about Jewish
background traits. It's not just intelligences, things like aggressiveness. And
you can see, you know, what's going on in Israel
now where the ethno nationalists. Religious right is in charge,
and they're extremely aggressive and you know they allow of
them would want to kill every last Palestinian. Uh, not
only in Guys, but on the West Bank, and they're
in the process of doing that pretty much. So it's
just really a tough group. And you think how aggressive
they are, how you know, the shameless they are. I mean,
Jews never expressed regret for much of anything or apologetics
about it. You know, it's one rationale after another, and
it's just a tough nut to crack. They're very powerful,
competent opponent if you believe your interests are not aligned
with theirs, and that's what I believe. I mean, my
view is that our interests are not the same as
theirs at all, but radically against our interests to become
a minority and throughout the West disaster. You think about
what happened in the Soviet Union in nineteen twenties. They
slaughtered native Russians, they slaughtered the middle class, they slaughtered
the aristocracy, and uh, you know that's kind of thing.
They don't have any moral compunctions about that. They will
say we're doing it for the good of the society,
that we're doing it for some kind of abstract moral
code that they have. So the you know, that's what
it is.
Speaker 1: So there are people out there that when you bring
up the concept of Jewish supremacy, uh, they like to
mock you say, this doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: This isn't a thing in your research? Is there Jewish supremacy?
Speaker 3: Do?
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're you know, as my friend doctor
Johnson likes to say, you know, we're not talking about
your dentist down the street. Maybe your dentist down the
street is you know this, you know, a totem of
exactly what we're talking about. But does Jewish supremacy exist?
Do they think they're better than us?
Speaker 3: They definitely do, and there is Jewish supremacy. You know,
I do have a wrinkle on that. I say that
I write in the last chapter it's a new edition.
I say that we could have a new lead in
this country, non Jewishly, because what really Jews needed to
become this dominant, you know, Jewish supremacist force is money
and needed media access. Well we have the money. Elon
Musk has enough money to run a presidential campaign and
contribute three hundred million dollars to Donald Trump. He can
do that again and more so. And for something like
Mosk a billion dollars is no problem, and he can
do that, and I think he would do that. He's
he's politically involved now and he's you know, men made
some tweets and said some things that have suggests he's
sort of on page with white identity and white interests.
But besides money, you know, a big source of Jewish
power has been media. And now that you could just
see the mainstream media is tanking is not as influential
as it was. They have podcasts like your podcast and others.
You have people listening to Tucker Carlson and and Canie
Owens and other people who are not really on page
with things that the Israel abbie wants. And even something
like Charlie Kirk was heading the right direction. He was
not taking He stopped taking money from Jewish donors. He
rejected that Yahoo's money, He didn't want to go to
Israel again. And I think I think they were understanding
that Israel is just a rogue state, spend an accused
of genocide by the UN very credible, and uh so, yeah,
they are very powerful, but we can we can take
back the country where we have enough money. And the
media is now what it used to be. The MSNBC
is defunct, and even conservative media, uh and you know
that that is you know, not conservative. It's not right
way enough show, we say, And we have to have media,
and we do that media and supposed to talk about
white interests, white identity, talk about Jewish power, Jewish influence
and that sort of thing. So you know, it's definitely changing.
And right now I'm autographing books for James Edwards. You know,
you just had me on a show quite a few times,
Political Soss School, very good show. And you know, this
is the way it is now. Young people especially don't
don't reread the New York Times, they don't read the
Wall Street Journal and even Fox News, you know, they
they they want to hear podcasts Joe Rogan and and
he's you know, Joe Rogan is not on page with
me or anybody like me, but he uh, you know,
he's definitely not the kind of guy that that the
mainstream media does wants to see idolized. And you can
see the reaction to Charlie Kirk in mainstream media. It's
you know, a lot of people have actually been fired
because they have, you know, going off on Charlie Kirk
and and then you know, in a way while you're
opposing pre speech. But again we have to get beyond
principles to interest ourselves, I mean emulate the Jews. I
mean it's in our interest two uh, at times h
curtail free speech and to shut it down and to
put people in prison, and that sort of thing. Who
are is really always so our interest and that's no
Jew would hesitate to do that.
Speaker 1: And well that's that's the supremacy, right, that's the supremacy angle.
So if Jews are, if Jews are in charge of something,
and you pointed out, you're going to have people who
aren't even Jews mocking you because oh, you're just blaming
your problems and your failures.
Speaker 2: In life on them. And you know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure you're a PhD. And I'm
sure you've heard that. Yeah, it's like what is there
to envy? Okay, So they have power. They they can
punish anyone who comes up against them. They never they
never admit that they're wrong about anything ever comes to
and and they will I mean like something like October seventh.
How many times in history has a band of people
and let's not even say that they've been they've been
you know, kept under it, kept in a cage for
sixty years or seventy years, and they have some kind
of animosity. Just a foreign power or a foreign group
comes over the border and kills people and attacks and
it has this is history, This is this is what's
happened in history. Okay, why is this special? Why do
I have to feel like, oh my god, this is
the worst thing that's ever happened. Oh and this this
is how you can go and just how you can
make excuses for killing civilians. If that isn't Jewish supremacy,
feeling like you're better than everyone else. Anyone who doesn't
believe that is is more is morally and intellectually lost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are other countries can get away with something
like that? Is killing sixty seventy thousand people at least,
and you know, shooting at people who who are trying
to get food and all that, and it's just it's
an amazing display of Jewish power, Jewish arrogance, and the
Jewish ability to get away with it. I mean, and
the Trump administration has done nothing. Really we'll see, but
you know it keep seeing reports that having difficulties with
that in Yahoo, but at the same time, nothing really happens.
And I am very concerned that he's just going to
keep up that way.
Speaker 1: Well he has, Like so when you have governors who
are passing anti Semmitism laws, are not only passing anti
Summitism laws, but they're flying to Israel to sign them
and then and then they're they're the attorney general of
that state, and people who were basically groomed in that
state get hired into the Trump administration. And we already
know that Trump has Israel probably has something on Trump somewhere.
But you have all these competing forces, even within Judaism,
going going at each other. It's like whichever way it goes,
win or lose. They've set up the system that Jews
come out on the right side, whether it be left
wing or right wing, and they can switch. And what
we saw after after people started to realize the problem
with immigration in this country, that Jews will just jump
from right to left.
Speaker 2: Willy nilly, Yeah they will. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's the thing about you is they're very flexible. They
don't have principles you have, this is their interests, and
so they will quickly turn on a dime. And you know,
but still, I mean, Jewish organizations are still by and large,
the mainstream Jewish community is still very pro emegration. And uh,
you got you got an outlier like Stephen Miller. They
hated him, they threw him out of a synagogue, and
so yeah, yeah, this is uh, Jews are just they
will maintain this this animosity towards the white America. It
goes way back. It's not even white America, it's entire West,
going back to the beginnings of the Western civilization.
Speaker 2: Yeah. People, when you mentioned how.
Speaker 1: They've been in certain countries historically European countries and they've
been told to leave or been kicked out, you people
will say things like, well, you know, this dictator or
this emperor or this mayor of a town invited them
in because he heard that Jews could help them make money.
And then all of a sudden they started not only
because because of what they do, they start lending money
to the normal, to the to the normal people. And
like you know, in Russia, the peasants we were backwards.
Really the only thing the peasants really knew how to
do was till the soil. They were excellent at tilling
the soil. But they weren't worldly people. They weren't people
like who had been who have traveled from country to
country like they have. And so when the Jews start
to exploit them, like modern capitalism almost says, well, you
have to get you have to hand it to them.
You know, hey, if these peasants had been smarter, you know,
this wouldn't have happened. But you know, hey, when you
have when you have an advanced group who comes in you,
no matter what they do to the people, even if
the people don't like it, they have to sit back
and take it, right. I mean, who so the Jews
complain about, oh they come over, these Palestinians come over
on October seventh and cross the border and kill all
these people. Well, you crossed borders for the last two
thousand years and have like enslaved people with usury and
you know, taken over the alcohol trade and you know,
targeted it at.
Speaker 2: Targeted at certain populations.
Speaker 1: And then when you get when people get mad at you,
you're not. I mean, how do you deal? How do
you survive with the people who never do anything wrong,
and then they have tons of you know, most of
the gentiles around are like, hey, leave them alone. They're
the smartest among us. They're probably responding, they're probably the
only reason why we have air conditioning.
Speaker 3: Right now, I am being Shapiro, try to take over
to Turning Point USA. You know, it's pervasive that it
as you said, I mean, it's hard to to deal
with them because from their own point of view, they
are always right, they've always been victimized, they're always innocent,
and they're always the good guys. And uh, you can't
break through that just can't.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna let you go. I really appreciate you
coming on The Culture of Critique third edition put out
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second edition over here. I've read it. I it's I
think a lot of you know, like I've also had
Michael Jones on the show. So we look at the
Jews from when you have you Michael Jones and the show.
You look at the Jews from a theological perspective, but
there's nothing. I think the scientific and the theological come
together perfectly. And yeah, so what you've written and the
way you've laid this out from an evolutionary perspective, I
think is perfect for people to under perfect way for
people who you know, may not be into the metaphysical
to try to understand this group.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's there are different ways to think about it.
Michael Jones certainly does does a lot of good work.
I have a very different point of view. We've had
arguments a couple of times, but in general we are
on page with this and this is something there are
a lot of things we can agree on, you know,
the exployer of nature of Judaism and then and they
have different interests than we do. But it's uh fascinating journy.
I mean, once I got into Jewish history and and
all that, I couldn't stop. I mean it was so
interesting to see it. And as an evolucious I mean,
I expect that the conflict to happen. I expect these
different groups have different interests, They're going to clash and
just the way life is.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna sign off right now. Stay to stay
in the room. Stay in the room because I have
to wait for the audio to upload. And thank you
to thank you very much, doctor McDonald. I really appreciate
your time there.
Speaker 3: Thank you