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Speaker 5: A.
Speaker 3: You know, I was just thinking, how awesome would it
Speaker 3: be to have uh Royce and Brandon Croll in the
Speaker 3: same episode.
Speaker 1: Oh God, that would be fun.
Speaker 4: Because Royce hits me up and we discuss some of
Speaker 4: the finer points of things that multiple people will bring up,
Speaker 4: by the way, like Brandon Croll is one of them,
Speaker 4: and he gets a few things wrong when it comes
Speaker 4: to what his understanding of the Hebrew language and history
Speaker 4: and all these things are.
Speaker 1: Another one is Mike ah Dank.
Speaker 4: He gets quite a few things wrong, and with the
Speaker 4: Old Testament conversation and then with me with the New
Speaker 4: test conversation.
Speaker 1: So you know, that would be fun. That'd be very fun.
Speaker 4: Although as our boy Royce has said, he is not
Speaker 4: a expert in these things. You know, there's always new
Speaker 4: things and new information that you could learn and learn better.
Speaker 3: But pretty well, I mean it's pretty impressive the information
Speaker 3: you're able to retain their Royce, I always enjoy listening
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 6: Oh thank you.
Speaker 7: What I know I know very very well because as
Speaker 7: I was going through this process of learning myself, I
Speaker 7: needed to make sure that I had a damn good
Speaker 7: understanding of what.
Speaker 5: I was doing.
Speaker 4: So sweet, okay, you know what.
Speaker 3: You know what, since we got you here, Royce, I
Speaker 3: have a question for you. This is something me and
Speaker 3: Jacob were talking about earlier.
Speaker 1: Last night.
Speaker 3: I had the pleasure of talking to a Satanist and
Speaker 3: on meta mysteries and very interesting. He told us this
Speaker 3: story about how he works with demons and angels whenever
Speaker 3: he's uh invocating and evocating or something like that. Do
Speaker 3: you think that that is something like if somebody is
Speaker 3: communicating with demons? Would it just be that simple according
Speaker 3: to you know, the the Torah and all your texts
Speaker 3: and everything like that.
Speaker 1: Would is that something that could even happen?
Speaker 3: Is there ever any mention of somebody talking to demons
Speaker 3: and angels and like kind of using them both in
Speaker 3: a sense, So.
Speaker 7: In then tellment itself.
Speaker 6: I know that it talks about how Solomon had access
Speaker 6: and like the whole Seal of Solomon and the greater
Speaker 6: Keys of Solomon.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 7: I think there's a book I know for a fact
Speaker 7: that that you did that as funny up, there's actually
Speaker 7: a small story that one of the demons were actually
Speaker 7: managed to get the ring controlling him away from away
Speaker 7: from Solomon. Solomon got like booted out. Miles had to
Speaker 7: get back to the temp get back to his kingdom
Speaker 7: and say, hey, I'm the Kaler. No, no, no, what are
Speaker 7: you talking about? He's like on the throat.
Speaker 1: No, check his.
Speaker 7: Feet, because I guess demons can't change their feet. They're
Speaker 7: always like three toad So it's definitely in our zeitgeist
Speaker 7: in history. Some books of the Gamara talk more about
Speaker 7: it than others, so it's definitely a thing. How easy
Speaker 7: it is that I can't tell you. I'm sure that
Speaker 7: there are rituals that need to be made, and how I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, Okay, yeah, I was just curious. He said
Speaker 3: he called upon a specific demon. The demon said that
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be able to help them, so he referred
Speaker 3: to him to archangel Gabriel, which I thought was pretty
Speaker 3: interesting that he would even, you know, have anything nice
Speaker 3: to say about an angel. But being that you know,
Speaker 3: demons and all them used to be angels, right or
Speaker 3: is that is that true that all demons used to
Speaker 3: be angels or is it just some of them?
Speaker 4: Kind of a misnomer a demon is not necessarily a
Speaker 4: fallen angel.
Speaker 1: But I guess you could say it's the spirit of.
Speaker 4: Once was a fallen angel and then kind of because
Speaker 4: some of them are more of the watcher variety, Royce,
Speaker 4: your thoughts.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's also a difference. We have a different
Speaker 7: opinion of whether or not there is not there was.
Speaker 4: A fall in angels to where mainstream Judaism.
Speaker 7: Does not necessarily believe that the that they fell, that
Speaker 7: there may or may not be demons.
Speaker 6: But these were things that God, in his infinite wisdom
Speaker 6: created so that we can be tempted, because that's the
Speaker 6: only way that we can have free will.
Speaker 1: That's what me and Royce did have that conversation.
Speaker 4: He had asked me, basically, where Old Testament does it
Speaker 4: talk about like Satan's fall and how it took a
Speaker 4: third of the host with them and all these things
Speaker 4: the Jews do not acknowledge that the Christians do. And well,
Speaker 4: the third of the heavenly host falling with him, that's
Speaker 4: talked about in Revelation. But Old Testament there are some references,
Speaker 4: and the problem goes with this one.
Speaker 1: It is an.
Speaker 4: Interpretation of conversation right Book of Ezekiel Book of Daniel
Speaker 4: and Book of.
Speaker 1: Jeremy.
Speaker 4: There's a few times where a prophet specific guy is
Speaker 4: rebuking a king, earthly king right on earth, and the
Speaker 4: language that he is using is a little too grand
Speaker 4: to be just this one guy. And even when he's
Speaker 4: rebuking him, he is mentioning things about his fall from
Speaker 4: grace and his fall from on high and things like this.
Speaker 4: Where he's to us anyway, he's clearly not talking to
Speaker 4: the guy himself. He is talking to the evil one
Speaker 4: that is controlling the guy himself. However, in another interpretive lens,
Speaker 4: he is clearly calling out this evil king himself. So
Speaker 4: is there reference to the fall into the demons and
Speaker 4: all of these things? Again, it's kind of one of
Speaker 4: those interpretation conversations.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, spirit animal, what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 3: I saw you loading up the world's biggest bong there, sir,
Speaker 3: So what did it do?
Speaker 5: It's going fine with the angels and the demons. The
Speaker 5: demons themselves are not the fallen angels from my understanding,
Speaker 5: Yes that the there are like a third of the
Speaker 5: angels failed and everything. H So, I think there was
Speaker 5: two false The watchers were the fast fall and then
Speaker 5: the other angels failed with Lucifer after he tried to
Speaker 5: trick them, after he pretty much manipulated them and gassed
Speaker 5: at them. Because it says that the leader of the
Speaker 5: watchers was Azazel.
Speaker 1: And how he tied uh man. When I say man,
Speaker 1: I mean both women and men.
Speaker 5: He taught them, were taught them makeup and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Then with that being said, Jacob, you said the Book
Speaker 5: of Elijah. There's actually no Book of Elijah in the Bible.
Speaker 5: He has four chapters of I want to say, no
Speaker 5: first Kings, but the book of the Book of Laja
Speaker 5: party came from a movie Book of Eli which is
Speaker 5: actually my favorite Christian movie.
Speaker 1: I did miss spoke on that. Let me double check
Speaker 1: on myself. I know it was the Book of Ezekiel,
Speaker 1: Book of Daniel and Jeremiah.
Speaker 7: Jeremiah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I might have misspoken on that one.
Speaker 3: Every time I hear that word Jeremiah, I think of
Speaker 3: that song.
Speaker 4: But also, all right, so one thought process to where
Speaker 4: demons came from and how they are separate from but
Speaker 4: still connected to the fallen ones. Right, and again this
Speaker 4: is not I'm not speaking with some sort of biblical
Speaker 4: authority on this one. I've done some research and there's
Speaker 4: a few different thought processes to this one. This is
Speaker 4: the one that kind of stands out to me. Angels
Speaker 4: fall from heaven, right, they come to earth, they start
Speaker 4: fucking the female women and making nephelom. Right, they start
Speaker 4: making these giants, these half breeds. Right, the flood comes
Speaker 4: around to balled them out. The spirit that was imbued
Speaker 4: into these half divine, half human beings can't go to
Speaker 4: heaven or Hell, Okay, so that spirit itself goes and
Speaker 4: wanders of the earth and then inhabits other bodies. That
Speaker 4: spirit is what we would my might by today's standards,
Speaker 4: call a demon.
Speaker 3: Dude, you want to hear something crazy is And this
Speaker 3: has almost nothing to do with what we're talking about,
Speaker 3: kind of. But the second time that I ever got
Speaker 3: hypnotized for a past life regression, I was a fucking
Speaker 3: like watcher, right, like and take what you want out
Speaker 3: of past life regression. I just thought it was interesting
Speaker 3: because I was not into any of the biblical stuff.
Speaker 3: I didn't really know any of the stories that much.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that there were even people called watchers.
Speaker 3: But I was like this watcher and like it was
Speaker 3: crazy because the people forgot that they can call upon
Speaker 3: me to help them. And so I was like getting
Speaker 3: frustrated because I'm up there just hanging out all day
Speaker 3: and years are passing by and nobody remembers my name.
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks that I'm a myth.
Speaker 3: So I go up to homeboy Odin with you know,
Speaker 3: the one eye, and I'm like, yo, I want to
Speaker 3: make a bigger difference, right, And He's like, all right,
Speaker 3: you go down there then, And so it like in
Speaker 3: that way, it was kind of a fall right, like
Speaker 3: a in a weird way. And so it makes me wonder, like,
Speaker 3: did the fallen Whenever we talk about fallen?
Speaker 1: Are we are?
Speaker 3: We sure we're looking at it the exact right way
Speaker 3: we're supposed to be.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that they lowered their vibrational energy to
Speaker 4: come down and interact with Earth, if that's what you're
Speaker 4: getting at. No, they, according to my belief system, and
Speaker 4: I'm not saying this is the end all be all,
Speaker 4: just for me, they rebelled against God and for that
Speaker 4: purpose were kicked out of his presence.
Speaker 1: Same way with Satan. Like we just had this conversation.
Speaker 4: About like the the Holy Council and how like in
Speaker 4: the Book of Job, Satan goes up to the Holy
Speaker 4: Council and is with God in his presence. Well, that
Speaker 4: completely negates the entire conversation of him getting kicked out, right.
Speaker 4: But then and there's also the conversation of Sofia, which
Speaker 4: I asked Royce about this.
Speaker 1: So for anybody who doesn't.
Speaker 4: Know, I know that a lot of English speakers don't
Speaker 4: understand how a language can have genders thrown onto it, right,
Speaker 4: Like in the French language, for instance, une elaeve, which
Speaker 4: is a student okay, une is not uh okay like
Speaker 4: uh tableau or something like that, which is there's a
Speaker 4: female and a male pejorative thrown on it une versus
Speaker 4: uh right eleve, whether it's a boy or girl student
Speaker 4: has the feminine prerogative thrown on it, because that's just
Speaker 4: the way the mean frenchman wrote it down one.
Speaker 1: Day, and that's the way it is, right.
Speaker 4: A lot of the Romance languages are like this, Spanish, Italian, French, Portuguese.
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, miss Louisa, I believe that Portuguese
Speaker 4: also has genders thrown on into the language, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I see the thumbs up, And I was curious because
Speaker 4: they bring they mentioned Sofia. It's a female name, and
Speaker 4: it is also the term for wisdom in Hebrew. I
Speaker 4: was curious if Hebrew also had male and female pejoratives
Speaker 4: thrown on their words, because again there's only two genders.
Speaker 1: Talk for another day, but yes, they actually do.
Speaker 4: So what Roysa told me was actually, yes, Sophia is
Speaker 4: not meant to be the queen of heaven or a
Speaker 4: female angelic force or something like that. The word wisdom
Speaker 4: is a feminine word that does not mean female inclined.
Speaker 4: It's literally a male female language gap here, and when
Speaker 4: the Greeks took the Hebrew and went from the Hebrew
Speaker 4: word for it and made it into Greek, they use
Speaker 4: the word Sophia, which because it was a feminine prerogative,
Speaker 4: it is now a name that I know a few
Speaker 4: Sophias in my life that are girls. That's a female
Speaker 4: name these days. But it was never actually intended to
Speaker 4: be a name. It was more like the embodiment of
Speaker 4: wisdom itself, not a female.
Speaker 3: Which is actually where philosophy comes from. It's the love
Speaker 3: of wisdom is philosophy.
Speaker 1: Do you know that? Absolutely? Anyhow, Look, I kind of
Speaker 1: just wanted to throw it out there.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to make this a whole like you know,
Speaker 3: biblical thing or whatever, but I just had a couple
Speaker 3: of questions and may as well go back to the
Speaker 3: og source as far as you know, yahwegh and all
Speaker 3: that shit goes, so.
Speaker 1: That shit, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Uh So, the yo kid said, Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 1: The you ah our resident you.
Speaker 3: That's what made me think about Brandon Croll. Anthony said,
Speaker 3: what up everyone? What a do Anthony? My dude, dude,
Speaker 3: yo kid said, when it's career day and your mom
Speaker 3: brings her laptop, camera and dildo to class?
Speaker 1: The fuck. We were just.
Speaker 4: Having a conversation about this earlier today. Actually what me
Speaker 4: and Royce. It was me and someone else talking about
Speaker 4: how much these only fans girls make and how like
Speaker 4: so many young college women, there are men out there
Speaker 4: on only fans making that dollar two. Not throwing any
Speaker 4: shade on this. That's you know, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: judge someone on how they make a living. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, it's like, you know, that's like a
Speaker 4: actual career path that young adults are thinking, like, well,
Speaker 4: this is what I'm gonna do. There was this one
Speaker 4: chick that made was it Ruby Rose, the actress. Right,
Speaker 4: she got her start on OnlyFans. She was making ten
Speaker 4: mil a month on OnlyFans before she ever started being
Speaker 4: a quote unquote actress.
Speaker 1: Right, I bet you was mainly women, because isn't she
Speaker 1: a lesbian?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, but she's also got the jawline and
Speaker 4: everything to where she could look like a full on
Speaker 4: boy or look like a full on girl. But that's
Speaker 4: you know, whatever, whatever, She's not my personal cup of Joe,
Speaker 4: not enough curves for me, but that's just me, right,
Speaker 4: But whatever.
Speaker 1: She was making insane money off of that.
Speaker 4: And there's so many young adults out there that think that,
Speaker 4: like this is clearly the correct like career path I
Speaker 4: should be on. But I feel like a lot of
Speaker 4: them don't realize that there is a backside to that.
Speaker 4: And twenty years into the future, when you try to
Speaker 4: be a normal human being and like work some job
Speaker 4: or you're living your life and have kids, the chances
Speaker 4: are that your kids classmates when they get to middle
Speaker 4: school are gonna be able to search some things and
Speaker 4: find like their classmates mom's porn or her only fans
Speaker 4: account from back in the day.
Speaker 1: Because the Internet doesn't forget, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I think people really need to start thinking long term
Speaker 4: about shit.
Speaker 1: That's just me.
Speaker 3: I think that it's probably not to stick up for it,
Speaker 3: but I feel like it's highly unlikely. Think about how
Speaker 3: many millions of users there are on OnlyFans, right, and
Speaker 3: most of them don't go by their normal name, right.
Speaker 3: It's usually like Honeybear or spread these Lips or some bullshit,
Speaker 3: you know what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, Like it's some fucked up name.
Speaker 3: You're not going to be able to search for that name,
Speaker 3: so you would only really be able to identify by
Speaker 3: the face. And you know, I don't know, but I'm
Speaker 3: just I think that it's almost like trying to find
Speaker 3: a needle in.
Speaker 1: The haystack at that point.
Speaker 3: I put it like this, like think about the most
Speaker 3: most porn like you go onto you know, any porn
Speaker 3: side or whatever. It's like, unless you're super famous, you're
Speaker 3: probably not going to get noticed.
Speaker 1: I mean you say that. I was in middle school.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, we got this new science
Speaker 4: teacher and she was an ab salute dime.
Speaker 1: Like there's no fucking way this.
Speaker 4: Lady should be in Prairieville Louisiana, teaching at a public
Speaker 4: middle school. Like absolutely, no fucking way, right. Come to
Speaker 4: find out, she worked her way through college by doing porn.
Speaker 1: And we only reason we know that.
Speaker 4: And for the record, she was like very modest, always
Speaker 4: dressed very modestly, was very respectful, Like you would have
Speaker 4: never guessed.
Speaker 1: She just was a very very attractive woman.
Speaker 4: Some kid in class just randomly scrolling through the porn tubes.
Speaker 4: I don't even remember what.
Speaker 1: Sight it was that was popping off when I was
Speaker 1: in middle school. I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4: Right found her, and the only reason he realized that
Speaker 4: it was her with theanna shadow of a doubt was
Speaker 4: because of a wrist tattoo that she had, and then
Speaker 4: whenever the face turned around, she had really big ears too,
Speaker 4: so it was like there was a few telltale signs.
Speaker 4: But he actually called her by her stage name in
Speaker 4: class one day, which led to every fucking kid in
Speaker 4: the school searching this up, and like the next day
Speaker 4: she was gone.
Speaker 1: She got fired.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't think that that would be a thing, because
Speaker 4: you're right, there's millions, millions of people, not just women,
Speaker 4: but people willing to get naked and fuck on camera
Speaker 4: for a high dollars.
Speaker 1: I would imagine.
Speaker 3: I would imagine though, that if you're going on to
Speaker 3: only fans, you gotta like let's say, all right, let's say,
Speaker 3: for example, your mom decides to join only fans and
Speaker 3: she doesn't have any just any angle, She.
Speaker 4: Doesn't have any angle, doesn't really know what she's gonna
Speaker 4: be doing for the rest of her life.
Speaker 3: Let's just pretend, for shit, your mom, because your mom,
Speaker 3: your mom's a peace No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you're not the first person to tell
Speaker 4: me that, by.
Speaker 1: The way, But got a hot mom. Yeah, but and
Speaker 1: I mean that with all due respect.
Speaker 4: Sir, right right, Remember I'm saying with all dudes respect.
Speaker 3: Okay, but imagine your mom's thirty five years old. She
Speaker 3: gets on only fans, She does a little bit of content,
Speaker 3: she makes some, she makes some, shekels, right, she does
Speaker 3: what she has to do to get by and pay
Speaker 3: and you know, uh, pay for food and gas and
Speaker 3: all that other shit. Right, and then she decides, all right, well,
Speaker 3: I I don't want to be an onlyfanner my entire life.
Speaker 3: I want to make something on myself. I just I
Speaker 3: just popped out a kid, Jacob.
Speaker 4: And and and and I don't want him seeing this stuff, right,
Speaker 4: and and so she's like, all right, well I'm you
Speaker 4: just go and delete it then, wouldn't you? Like the
Speaker 4: cloud doesn't forget homie, The internet has records on records,
Speaker 4: every snap that's ever been snapped. By the way, Oh
Speaker 4: it's gone after it's seen, it's not. It's not though
Speaker 4: a decent hacker can pull up everything.
Speaker 3: I guess my point is is that your your mom
Speaker 3: in that instance, would would own all of the content.
Speaker 3: And she's not like selling it out to some porn
Speaker 3: producer or something like that that wouldn't take it down
Speaker 3: if she.
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter, dude, Even still leaks happen all the time.
Speaker 4: You remember Jennifer Lawrence when her when her nues first
Speaker 4: hit the internet, she was humiliated. She tried to launch
Speaker 4: a whole lawsuit against whoever leaked, and they got leaked
Speaker 4: off of her cloud.
Speaker 1: Some hacker this that the other. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Like, if it's out there into the internet ether, it's
Speaker 4: never coming down. Yeah, you could ask to have it
Speaker 4: removed all you want. There's copies. How many of these
Speaker 4: famous OnlyFans.
Speaker 1: Girls have you?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: All of their nude content is only on Only Fans,
Speaker 4: but it's literally a Google image search away because there's
Speaker 4: always people that will buy the only fans content, take
Speaker 4: screenshots and blast it everywhere anyway, because like, duh, so
Speaker 4: it's not Yeah.
Speaker 1: Dude, people be doing wild shit on OnlyFans and I
Speaker 1: mean that in the most fansly.
Speaker 4: Only fans has rules. Fansly they kind of got like
Speaker 4: almost no rules.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, but dude, you want to talk about wild
Speaker 3: shit to be going up on OnlyFans, it is wild.
Speaker 3: Like they're like they can sell their you know, their clothes,
Speaker 3: They can sell bags of shit if they want to like.
Speaker 1: That. That's fansly. The only fans has rules about bodily fluids.
Speaker 1: Fanin's lead is not.
Speaker 4: That must be new then, because the person that I
Speaker 4: heard that story from, that's like not.
Speaker 3: That old of of a story from what I hear.
Speaker 3: And let's I guess they found some kind of back
Speaker 3: end way to be able to do it.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, excuse me.
Speaker 4: They might sell it on there, but they can't have
Speaker 4: videos of them shitting on OnlyFans that will get them
Speaker 4: kicked off the platform. But I guess they could have
Speaker 4: like a menu where you can order it and I
Speaker 4: guess you're just left to assume that the ziploc bag
Speaker 4: of shit is from the person that you're buying it from.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't fucking know. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't delve into these realms, but uh, yeah, there's
Speaker 4: some there's some wild shit out there on the interwebs.
Speaker 1: Literally, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the guy just so happened to be working at
Speaker 3: a Chinese restaurant.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm not going to go any farther that one.
Speaker 1: But the dude who bought it, or the dude who
Speaker 1: was like making it, the address was to a Chinese restaurant.
Speaker 1: That'll make you wonder.
Speaker 3: But anyway, all right, let's let's calm it down over.
Speaker 3: White boy Wizard said, hello, you glorious bastards.
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Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 3: Rose Chaos said, what up? Pam Steph said it's Tuesday.
Speaker 5: It do be.
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Speaker 3: older than the Solar System and clues about its violent history.
Speaker 3: Three new studies of the asteroid sample material show the
Speaker 3: new or the near Earth asteroid Benu contained start us
Speaker 3: that I don't know why it has to repeat it
Speaker 3: seven fucking times. Scientists all over the world have been
Speaker 3: pouring over samples of Benu ever since material from the
Speaker 3: asteroid was brought to Earth in twenty twenty three, according
Speaker 3: to NASA's Osiris rix mission, which flew alongside the asteroid
Speaker 3: before briefly landing on it and scooping up samples in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty. The findings provide a glimpse of the conditions
Speaker 3: and the cosmos before our Solar system arose four point
Speaker 3: six billion years ago, and reveal more about the parent
Speaker 3: body that generated the sixteen hundred foot wide asteroid. The
Speaker 3: first of the three papers, published August twenty second, suggests
Speaker 3: Benu's ancestor broke apart in a violent collision after a
Speaker 3: complicated history. That older body contained minerals from a number
Speaker 3: of distinct environments close to the Sun, far from the
Speaker 3: Sun but still within our Solar System, and and beyond
Speaker 3: our Solar system in interstellar space. Scientists spotted these locations
Speaker 3: by looking at isotopes or element types in the sample
Speaker 3: of Benuz dust. Isotopes that originated in the Solar System
Speaker 3: had a different makeup than those that came from interstellar
Speaker 3: star dust, for example. All of these constituents were transported
Speaker 3: great distances to the region that Benu's parent asteroid formed.
Speaker 1: Says a person working for NASA.
Speaker 3: Scientists suggests that the parent asteroid formed in the outer
Speaker 3: Solar System, likely beyond Jupiter and Saturn, but then came
Speaker 3: a cataclysmic event. We think this parent body was struck
Speaker 3: by an incoming asteroid and smashed apart. Somebody from Arizona's
Speaker 3: Lunar and Planetary Laboratory said, the fragments reassembled, and this
Speaker 3: might have repeated several times.
Speaker 1: Damn interesting. What do they mean?
Speaker 3: Whether they say interstellar. Is that just like different different
Speaker 3: solar system?
Speaker 1: Is that what that means?
Speaker 4: So you remember how we talked about the Atlas interstellar object,
Speaker 4: and there's only three objects in our recorded history that
Speaker 4: had that eye designation by it meaning interstellar, meaning it
Speaker 4: came from outside of our solar system.
Speaker 1: But they also believe outside of our galaxy. Oh okay, interesting,
Speaker 1: So like a real foreigner, a true, true, true foreigner.
Speaker 3: They get samples from asteroids, but can't get a picture
Speaker 3: of Australia with the people walking upside down.
Speaker 1: Can't get it because they're not upside down, That's how
Speaker 1: crazy it is.
Speaker 3: But they are from a perspective they would be, wouldn't
Speaker 3: they No, from no perspective. If you're standing on the Moon,
Speaker 3: let's just say that, I don't know, you're outside of
Speaker 3: low Earth orbit and you're looking at the Earth. From
Speaker 3: your perspective of which you're standing and staring at the Earth,
Speaker 3: there's nobody standing upside down?
Speaker 1: Is it flat? If that's what you mean? I mean? Okay.
Speaker 4: So there's that app where you can open up on
Speaker 4: your phone and you look up at the night sky
Speaker 4: and it will show you all the consolations, right and
Speaker 4: then you can go down as in like what's on
Speaker 4: the other side of the Earth, and it shows you
Speaker 4: the consolations that they are looking at that side of
Speaker 4: the Earth, depending on where your phone's pointed. So sure,
Speaker 4: from where I'm sitting, if you were to go pole
Speaker 4: to pole, Let's say I am currently the north pole.
Speaker 4: If you were to go all the way to the
Speaker 4: South pole, that person, per my perspective, would be upside down.
Speaker 1: But I'm not. It's not like that. That's that's kind
Speaker 1: of crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, from from every perspective, there would be
Speaker 3: somebody walking up right, somebody walking along the side, somebody
Speaker 3: walking upside down. I mean from every perspective. You'd be
Speaker 3: able to see that from any ball structure.
Speaker 4: Those allegedly, But if you're in Australia, you're not upside down.
Speaker 4: Gravity still works the same way it goes to the ground.
Speaker 4: You don't get it, I do flat not flat people. Well,
Speaker 4: you're kind of making a point for the flat earthers
Speaker 4: by saying that there's nobody walking upside down?
Speaker 1: How is that okay? Sure?
Speaker 3: Because there is anybody walking upside down? If there was,
Speaker 3: if the Earth was flat.
Speaker 1: There's so much math and so much physics to explain
Speaker 1: how it's not flat. And they have been saying this
Speaker 1: since ancient Greece. They said it in ancient Rome, they
Speaker 1: said it throughout the Middle Ages. Like that's not even
Speaker 1: a debatable point, and somehow we're still here.
Speaker 4: Crazy to me, Hold on, I need to find this out.
Speaker 4: Tall twenty the elder was talking shit on people that
Speaker 4: believed this.
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna find out what the tallest building
Speaker 3: in Australia is. So what we don't need to zoom
Speaker 3: in on a person. Just zoom in on a fucking
Speaker 3: building that seems upside down from that perspective. The tallest
Speaker 3: building in Australia is the Q one Tower in Gold Coast. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's where John mcclucky's from, and which stands at three
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty two feet three hundred and twenty two meters,
Speaker 3: which is almost eleven hundred feet tall.
Speaker 4: Let's say three hundred feet is not a tall building. Okay,
Speaker 4: three hundred meters now, okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: All right, So we need to zoom in on the
Speaker 3: Q one Tower in Gold Coast. You hear that NASA,
Speaker 3: hear that nailed to grass?
Speaker 1: All right, Just zoom in.
Speaker 3: All you got fucking millions of satellites out there, right,
Speaker 3: Let's just take one picture of an upside down building
Speaker 3: and you'll convince me.
Speaker 1: That's all I need.
Speaker 4: So you're asking for them to take their resources, of
Speaker 4: which there are many, and the Earth being the ball,
Speaker 4: and let's have a satellite way out here to take
Speaker 4: a picture of something in the upright position and also
Speaker 4: something in the upside down position from space, and that
Speaker 4: would be enough to convince you. Yeah, why not we
Speaker 4: How can we believe anything NASA has ever said or
Speaker 4: taken a picture of, because everything's photoshop Jonathan good point.
Speaker 1: They're always lying no matter what.
Speaker 4: Well, see, dude, I'm excited to see about this whole
Speaker 4: Atlas object that's moving towards us. Is it a mothership?
Speaker 4: Is it just an asteroid? Slash comment? What the fuck
Speaker 4: is it? Is it gonna beam us with the radio waves?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I am excited to see what happens.
Speaker 4: We got about two months till it passes by us.
Speaker 1: The aliens are gonna save us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually, you know, a funny story, you know,
Speaker 3: because we always hear about how there's a oh, there's God,
Speaker 3: his love, but we always hear about how the usually
Speaker 3: over like nuclear launch sites, there's always like alien sightings
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and maybe they prevented a couple
Speaker 3: of slips of said button that would cause the end
Speaker 3: of the world.
Speaker 1: I was listening to this and.
Speaker 3: Say whatever you want about this, but it was like
Speaker 3: this one guy who's a channeler, and he said that
Speaker 3: there were over three hundred times that the aliens prevented
Speaker 3: that from happening.
Speaker 1: So do with that as you will.
Speaker 4: I yeah, you know how I feel about channelers, especially
Speaker 4: of the alien variety.
Speaker 3: The sharks full of shit, so I know, but the
Speaker 3: profits are always right.
Speaker 4: At least their shit came through to fruition Bashar talking
Speaker 4: about how the woman was gonna win the presidential election.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, and let's not even start on all the
Speaker 4: other wild shit that he's claimed. When he rolls his
Speaker 4: eyes back and goes into an autistic rant that people were.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, he's so enlightened.
Speaker 4: What's not him? It's it's the most shark. It's like, oh, dude,
Speaker 4: it's a fucking it's a grifter.
Speaker 3: Obviously, he's actually come out and said that he's he's
Speaker 3: not really channeling an alien what he's doing, Yeah, which
Speaker 3: I've always understood anyway, Like I never believed that he
Speaker 3: was channeling a fucking alien from planet fuck off or whatever.
Speaker 3: It's just that he's putting himself into a meditative state,
Speaker 3: and essentially that is like.
Speaker 1: His higher self coming through. Is really what's going on?
Speaker 4: It sounds like autistic screeching to me, brother, I don't
Speaker 4: know what to tell you.
Speaker 3: It's like anybody that's ever looked into automatic writing. It's
Speaker 3: kind of the same thing, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's also kind of like just like mumbo jumbo
Speaker 4: for the most part, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's like scrying? Is that what it's called?
Speaker 3: Jacob? You are such a non believer, sir. You you
Speaker 3: have come out on fire tonight.
Speaker 1: I'm not meaning to. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I just said we're talking about alien channelers, and I'm
Speaker 4: just like, uh huh, let's let's consider that source.
Speaker 1: To be alive. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Zombie said, since we have a mothership coming saw this
Speaker 3: article about space dust heard.
Speaker 4: That, and again, who knows if it is actually a
Speaker 4: mothership or not. It very well might be a comet
Speaker 4: or something similar. It's just gonna pass by us. Haley's
Speaker 4: comet style shit, and then it will be gone and
Speaker 4: it would just be a thing that happened.
Speaker 1: It'll be very interesting. Maybe we'll get a chance to
Speaker 1: get an up close look and study it, and that
Speaker 1: will just be the end of it. Who knows, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, you never let no good, oh not disaster go
Speaker 3: to waste.
Speaker 4: What's the term you can said? A catastrophe disaster? Yeah,
Speaker 4: you can't let one of those go to waste. We
Speaker 4: gotta we gotta get the people going.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Steph, what's up, dude?
Speaker 8: Well, I had a quick question about the mothership. Wanted
Speaker 8: your great opinion. I was thinking about this concept of
Speaker 8: faith and this concept of fear, and how fear is
Speaker 8: spread like wildfire, but faith is a bit more individualized,
Speaker 8: although it can be kind of somewhat of an energy transfer,
Speaker 8: but usually if you have faith, it's like an individual process.
Speaker 8: And I think about this alien mothership, and I've been
Speaker 8: thinking a lot just about UFOs and how it's strange
Speaker 8: to kind of live in a world where it's talked
Speaker 8: about all the time, even in the conspiracy community, because
Speaker 8: it used to be I don't know, it used to
Speaker 8: be like looked down on I guess a little bit
Speaker 8: used to be kind of out there and far left,
Speaker 8: even in the conspiracy community. I was listening to Sasquatch
Speaker 8: chronicles like back in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and they
Speaker 8: hesitated to talk about the lights in the sky and
Speaker 8: all this type of thing. But I think that I
Speaker 8: think what's interesting is to I think this mothership and
Speaker 8: talks about UFOs and aliens is because they have convinced
Speaker 8: a good portion of the population that God does not exist.
Speaker 8: And so it's very difficult to traumatize those people into
Speaker 8: like an end of the world when they can't quite
Speaker 8: They can't quite do it with enough floods and earthquakes.
Speaker 8: So what else can we do to traumatize people that
Speaker 8: don't necessarily believe in God? Convince them to believe in aliens,
Speaker 8: convince them to believe in some sort of incoming ship.
Speaker 8: And the propaganda is just gearing up a notchure two.
Speaker 8: So I just wanted to know what you guys think
Speaker 8: about that, and if it is possible that the whole
Speaker 8: point of motherships and aliens is not necessarily for us
Speaker 8: crazy conspiracy theorists, is more so for those that are
Speaker 8: a bit more scientific and believe not so much in
Speaker 8: a higher power.
Speaker 1: There's definitely a talking point for that.
Speaker 4: So I agree with you that there is a war
Speaker 4: being waged on religion, specifically yes, Christianity, but there is
Speaker 4: equally a war being waged on Buddhism and Hinduism and
Speaker 4: Islam and Judaism. Like I would say that having some
Speaker 4: sort of a cultural dogma like the oh, what did
Speaker 4: our ancestors really believe in? And by ancestors I mean
Speaker 4: like two, three, four, five generations back anything of the
Speaker 4: way things used to be. There is a war being
Speaker 4: waged on that right now. I agree with you, but
Speaker 4: it's more about what did the ancestors of a thousand
Speaker 4: years ago, two thousand years ago?
Speaker 1: What did they believe?
Speaker 4: That's kind of on the rise in weird pockets of
Speaker 4: our society right now. More people are throwing away tradition
Speaker 4: and embracing whatever their version of modernity is. So I
Speaker 4: think you're onto something with that, for sure. But I
Speaker 4: also believe that the alien conversation isn't the opposite of
Speaker 4: that is that the religious nuts out there are saying,
Speaker 4: and not everybody who believes this is a nut. I'm
Speaker 4: saying that there's like two sides to every coin, right,
Speaker 4: there's one side of this coin that is saying, oh,
Speaker 4: I don't believe in aliens, but I believe in demons,
Speaker 4: and like that's clearly what the lights in the sky are.
Speaker 4: That's clear what the sorciers are, and the tic TACs
Speaker 4: and all that. They're clearly demonic. And it's like, because
Speaker 4: you don't understand them, they must be demonic.
Speaker 1: That's like the talking point we're using here.
Speaker 4: The other side is to say, see, there is no
Speaker 4: god because there's interstellar travel and those are obviously beings
Speaker 4: from another planet. And it's just this, it's like you
Speaker 4: don't have to be an extremist on either side of
Speaker 4: that coin. There can be room for some wiggling on
Speaker 4: both of these. But yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does seem like it used to be like
Speaker 3: a fugazy kind of term, like if you believed in aliens,
Speaker 3: then you were a whack job, like you were kooky,
Speaker 3: Like how how could you possibly even believe in that?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: And now it seems to be very much so accepted,
Speaker 3: especially within like politics and the news stations and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. They're kind of throwing it out as if,
Speaker 3: as if everybody already accepts Aliens to be true.
Speaker 1: And I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit here and say that I don't
Speaker 3: believe them, believe in them at all. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think that there's probably something too aliens. I don't know
Speaker 3: what the fuck it is. I you know, I've said,
Speaker 3: you know this whole time that I believe that it
Speaker 3: would be you know, interdimensional. But that's just my own
Speaker 3: take on it. I'm not even saying that I know
Speaker 3: for one hundred percent fact that that's what it is.
Speaker 4: There's a more government disclosure coming out every single day,
Speaker 4: And to your point, they're not exactly giving us answers
Speaker 4: about interplanetary inner Solar system interdimensional. They're just kind of
Speaker 4: acknowledging that, yeah, that shit in the sky, we see
Speaker 4: it too, and we've seen it for years and like
Speaker 4: we don't exactly be knowing, but we kind of be
Speaker 4: knowing but not exactly And like, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: But to make a point for you know, what Jacob
Speaker 3: has said all along, you know, the whole time we
Speaker 3: were talking about the orbs and stuff over in New Jersey,
Speaker 3: like at least the vast majority of them, if not
Speaker 3: all of them were government.
Speaker 1: Like contractual contractual.
Speaker 4: Governmental entities, right, And then you know even some of
Speaker 4: them that were flying over in where was it New
Speaker 4: York or something like that, in New.
Speaker 1: Jersey area, and some in Pennsylvania as well, I might add.
Speaker 3: And somebody spotted they were like following it to see
Speaker 3: where this orb was gonna go, right, and it just
Speaker 3: so happened to go over to like the Boeing headquarters.
Speaker 3: It's like, wait a second, could we like, could we
Speaker 3: actually be being fooled right now?
Speaker 1: Could because what was it?
Speaker 3: Was it Ronald Reagan or Nixon that said all we
Speaker 3: need is, you know, some kind of alien invasion for
Speaker 3: a new world order, right, and that's how we would
Speaker 3: get everybody to come together. And maybe it was always
Speaker 3: the long con. And you'll get like a lot of
Speaker 3: government whistleblowers that say, this is the long con. I've
Speaker 3: been saying it for the past three or four decades
Speaker 3: that they've been saying this is this is the final
Speaker 3: chess move right to convince everybody that aliens exist.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, to be on like I want
Speaker 1: to believe that aliens exist, but just the.
Speaker 3: Fact that they're being so open about it, right, now
Speaker 3: causes me to hesitate just a little bit.
Speaker 4: So it was to your point, it was Reagan that
Speaker 4: said that, And it was around the same time frame
Speaker 4: that he was talking about Operation Star Wars, where he
Speaker 4: wanted freaking satellites with freaking laser beams on them, and
Speaker 4: they're like, sir, we can't, like, we can't do that.
Speaker 4: Give us a couple decades maybe, but like we're in
Speaker 4: we're in the mid eighties, or we don't have that.
Speaker 4: Yeah we do, Yeah we did. I was in Hollywood.
Speaker 4: I know what I'm talking about. No, no, sir, we
Speaker 4: don't actually have lasers. We could strap onto satellites as
Speaker 4: of this moment. We'll start working on it. We will
Speaker 4: get on it, but like we don't have it right now.
Speaker 4: But yeah, So he was the one that was saying
Speaker 4: that basically because it was getting to the end of
Speaker 4: the Cold War, right there was a lot of divide
Speaker 4: going on, not just in the country, all over the world,
Speaker 4: and he was saying, look, alien invasion right now, you
Speaker 4: would see everybody just come together and that would be
Speaker 4: all that we needed to bring about a new world
Speaker 4: order with one leader to be the answer to the crisis.
Speaker 1: And that's all would take. And also how about George
Speaker 1: Poppy Bush.
Speaker 4: Georgia hw Bush said said that same kind of sentiment
Speaker 4: about the New World Order on nine to eleven of
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1: I think it was, Oh, I believe.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 4: Of course he was basically seen as a Reagan junior,
Speaker 4: but he was not as good or as likable.
Speaker 1: As your boy Reagan. I'll be honest with you, right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, it all ties in.
Speaker 4: I believe that, Yeah, there's probably something out there that
Speaker 4: we don't exactly know.
Speaker 1: But also to your point, Jonathan.
Speaker 4: They keep having more and more big hearings where they
Speaker 4: bring in these experts. Some of them are legitimate experts
Speaker 4: and some of them are quote unquote so called experts.
Speaker 4: I'm being very generous to all parties here where they're
Speaker 4: talking about more and more UFO disclosure conversation. Some of
Speaker 4: these people have first hand accounts. Some of these people
Speaker 4: are like David Grush and are kind of giving you
Speaker 4: third party information to protect those that actually saw things.
Speaker 4: How much of it is verified, how much of it
Speaker 4: is just to kind of fill the airwaves for the
Speaker 4: time being.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I have such a natural distrust of the government especially
Speaker 4: these days. I don't believe that they're having these UFO
Speaker 4: hearings for the betterment of the American population. I just
Speaker 4: have a really hard time believing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I want to believe that aliens are
Speaker 3: out there, and I want to believe that, you know,
Speaker 3: the time has come where they're finally just gonna rip
Speaker 3: the band aid off and tell the Americans and tell
Speaker 3: the world that aliens exist. My thing is is that
Speaker 3: as much as we've researched, the government doesn't tell you
Speaker 3: anything that it can't stand to benefit from. Like that's
Speaker 3: just the cold, hard truth about it. And yes, you
Speaker 3: got whistleblowers and stuff like that, But the problem is
Speaker 3: is that these whistleblowers have to go through so many
Speaker 3: hoops and loops to be able to get cleared, to
Speaker 3: even be able to come out and say this kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. So it's already been wargamed in that sense.
Speaker 4: And so it's like, well, David Grush, you know here
Speaker 4: he is he's talking about this, or Jake Barber or
Speaker 4: any of the whistleblowers. It's like the government and the
Speaker 4: military already knows exactly what they're about to say, and
Speaker 4: they've already come up with a plan about how can
Speaker 4: we use this way? You know, look, Jake Barbie's gonna
Speaker 4: come out and he's gonna talk about this fucking egg, right,
Speaker 4: he got footage of it on his cell phone, and like,
Speaker 4: how can we use this to our benefit?
Speaker 1: You know that they're doing that.
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, And that's that's the thing. I'm not denying
Speaker 4: that something out there exists. I have a difference of
Speaker 4: opinion than a lot of people. You yourself believe they're
Speaker 4: more interdimensional than an interplanetary And I'm not saying there's
Speaker 4: more credence one way or another on that. I believe
Speaker 4: that both might be happening at the same time. I
Speaker 4: don't know, right, but and that was the thing. I
Speaker 4: had to forget who I was talking to. But I
Speaker 4: had this conversation with somebody talking about Atlas, right, and
Speaker 4: how if this is an alien mothership hypothetically speaking of course, right.
Speaker 4: They were like, see, the demons are on their way
Speaker 4: right now, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, pause, pause, fucking pause, Okay, why do demons
Speaker 1: need a craft to move through the Solar System?
Speaker 4: Per all logic, they don't need that. They can jump
Speaker 4: from spot to spot. If that is an alien mothership,
Speaker 4: the conversation about aliens being demons.
Speaker 1: Is completely negated. That's right.
Speaker 9: Off.
Speaker 4: There's no way reason why angels or demons or anything
Speaker 4: of the loohem or ethereal realm need a actual craft
Speaker 4: to fly from place to place in unison like that.
Speaker 4: So if that is alien mothership, we can drop the
Speaker 4: whole aliens are equally demons thing.
Speaker 1: It's fucking retarded, right. The other side of that is.
Speaker 3: Unless our interpretation of demons and angels is wrong.
Speaker 4: Okay, to that point, there's not a single mention of
Speaker 4: them having to fly through space to get to us.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that means that's a zero percent chance.
Speaker 4: I'm saying we have no record or mention of that
Speaker 4: from any credible source.
Speaker 3: But maybe they don't even have to fly through space.
Speaker 1: What if?
Speaker 3: I mean, what if we are having the interdimensional conversation.
Speaker 1: So that's the other point, right, So the interdimensional thing.
Speaker 4: If aliens are or what we believe as aliens, right
Speaker 4: with little Green men or the tall.
Speaker 1: Whites whatever, whatever. Okay, if they're interdimensional, why are they
Speaker 1: flying on a craft from another galaxy to hear Why
Speaker 1: didn't they just jump dimensions to get here already, Why
Speaker 1: are they coming at one hundred and sixty thousand miles
Speaker 1: per hour. That also negates the interdimensional.
Speaker 3: Conversation necessarily though, because if you think about it, you know,
Speaker 3: especially it depends on.
Speaker 1: What you lend credence to.
Speaker 3: Because Diana Posalka wrote the book American Cosmic. I always
Speaker 3: bring this book up, But she talks about these meta materials,
Speaker 3: which are basically like, you know, weird metals, and and
Speaker 3: she believes that they were left behind because she found
Speaker 3: some along with you know, the government found a lot
Speaker 3: of it over in like the Vegas Desert in Nevada
Speaker 3: and New Mexico and all that kind of shit, right,
Speaker 3: and she believes that not only those, but everything else
Speaker 3: that was quote unquote crashed, that they were more gifts
Speaker 3: to humanity in a sense. Right, So if we are
Speaker 3: to sit here and just believe that all aliens or
Speaker 3: angels or whatever are just so so far advanced that
Speaker 3: they don't even need any technology to be able to
Speaker 3: go anywhere, then how why would they be leaving behind
Speaker 3: this kind of you know, like physical material kind of shit.
Speaker 4: That's my point. They're not it's not angels and demons.
Speaker 4: They're leaving behind these materials. I believe it might be
Speaker 4: interdimensional slash interplanetary slash intergalactic beings. I do not believe
Speaker 4: that those are angels and demons, just me personally. And
Speaker 4: if these beings are able to jump dimensions like this,
Speaker 4: then why are they traveling in this way?
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's and I'm not saying there is not equally interdimensional
Speaker 4: beings and that that's not what's on the mothership.
Speaker 1: That might be an ergalactic species.
Speaker 4: And we also same conversation we're having, but also separately
Speaker 4: have a eighth dimensional being that can you know, traverse
Speaker 4: down to our dimension and communicate in some way.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I believe like they're talking about the ORBS conversation, I
Speaker 4: don't believe that orbs are UFOs.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I don't know either. I mean I've never
Speaker 3: never checked one out like on the inside. But you know,
Speaker 3: and that's the thing, it's like, who do you listen
Speaker 3: to whenever it comes to that kind of stuff, because
Speaker 3: you ask, literally, you asked Chris Bledsoe and he has
Speaker 3: a story. You ask Betty and Barney Hill, they have
Speaker 3: a story. You ask no matter who you ask, they
Speaker 3: all have some kind of story. Sometimes it's really scary,
Speaker 3: sometimes it's really awesome. Sometimes it's not really good or bad.
Speaker 3: It was just an experience, right, And it's like, whose
Speaker 3: word do you take at that point?
Speaker 4: Tell them about Bledsoe. So I looked more into his story.
Speaker 4: I haven't read his book yet I want to. But
Speaker 4: reading more into the overarching themes here. The entity that
Speaker 4: said that its name was Hathor, So that is an
Speaker 4: Egyptian goddess that was we understand it to be demonic
Speaker 4: in nature.
Speaker 3: Well, and according to everything Christian, everything's demonic.
Speaker 1: That's not no, no, no, you know that. I don't
Speaker 1: do that. You know that.
Speaker 4: I don't say that every single deity of every single
Speaker 4: pagan pantheon is clearly demonically based. There are those that
Speaker 4: do say that Jacob is not that guy. I will
Speaker 4: say that if you look at Hathor specifically and the
Speaker 4: way in which she was worshiped and some of her attributes,
Speaker 4: there is a very strong case to be made that
Speaker 4: that particular deity was a demonic based spirit.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: And then speaking on this and also kind of some
Speaker 4: current event shit, the plagues of Egypt that took place
Speaker 4: for all of the Hebrews to be released from Egypt.
Speaker 4: Every one of those ten went directly against an Egyptian deity,
Speaker 4: Hathor being one of them. Speaking on that, did you
Speaker 4: know that that's currently red right now?
Speaker 1: What's red? See? Oh? Okay, it just.
Speaker 4: Turned red bloom that happens every five hundred years.
Speaker 1: Is that like a prophecy or something?
Speaker 4: No, But I personally am of the belief that that
Speaker 4: is what happened when the rivers turned red as blood.
Speaker 4: I do believe that there is a more pragmatic reason
Speaker 4: why the plagues of Egypt happened, some of them, not
Speaker 4: all of them.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't show a natural reason why the first born
Speaker 4: of every house without Lamb's blood died. Okay, that's into
Speaker 4: the realm of the miraculous and the faith based in
Speaker 4: these things. But the river's turning red as blood, right,
Speaker 4: that is from an algae plume that comes about about
Speaker 4: every five hundred years, and it can jump from the
Speaker 4: river to even the vessels. So like if you have
Speaker 4: a pot of water in your house, that algae bloom
Speaker 4: can go there through the air and turn that into
Speaker 4: red as well. Now here's the thing is because of
Speaker 4: iron oxidation or something like that. That's a that's a
Speaker 4: fair thought process. Yes, but they do know, and it's
Speaker 4: trackable that every five hundred years this happens, right, the
Speaker 4: nile runs red. The Once this happens, the frogs that
Speaker 4: used to inhabit the water can't because the oxygen levels
Speaker 4: are too fucked up, so they jump out.
Speaker 1: That would be the plague of frogs.
Speaker 4: When the frogs do jump out, they start attacking the
Speaker 4: insect population, which makes them fly.
Speaker 1: I eat the plague of locusts.
Speaker 4: And so there's like a chain of events that can
Speaker 4: be said for the majority of the plagues of ease
Speaker 4: Egypt to where the red algae bloom that took place
Speaker 4: might have chain reacted and caused all the other ones
Speaker 4: to happen. We not all most of the other ones
Speaker 4: to happen as well. How long does it stay red for?
Speaker 1: Do you know? I do not? I do not. Off
Speaker 1: the top would be.
Speaker 3: Interesting because locus only come up, what's every seven years
Speaker 3: or something like that, right, I don't believe, because cicadas
Speaker 3: and locus are basically the same insects. Yeah, they come
Speaker 3: up every year, but locus are only once every seven years.
Speaker 3: So it would be interesting that if it magically aligned
Speaker 3: to that cycle.
Speaker 4: I've never heard the locus only come up every so often.
Speaker 1: I'm that's interesting.
Speaker 3: That's as told as a kid. I've never fact checked that.
Speaker 3: I just remember like somebody saying, oh, you know, I
Speaker 3: can't wait until these fucking locusts are gone. Then we
Speaker 3: got seven years for free of them. I remember like
Speaker 3: a lot of people saying.
Speaker 4: That, I want to say, the algae is for like,
Speaker 4: I think two months.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up. I'm a search that. You
Speaker 1: see your hand, Royce, what you got.
Speaker 7: So there is an opinion as far as the plague
Speaker 7: that the entirety basically like lasted about a year, So
Speaker 7: that like Pharaoh was warned for like a week or
Speaker 7: three and then like it happened after that, So you
Speaker 7: would they would have warned for like a week and
Speaker 7: then the plagues would last for three or something around
Speaker 7: that point. So there is a pinion that it was
Speaker 7: like a plague lasts for between one week or one month.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so I'm looking right here.
Speaker 4: It says that there's no fixed timeline for the algae
Speaker 4: bloom in Egypt. It can persist for days weeks or
Speaker 4: even months with warmer seasons extending its duration.
Speaker 1: And it just happened.
Speaker 4: And it's in summer, and this is a hot year
Speaker 4: this year, so it's very possible to the last a
Speaker 4: few months.
Speaker 1: Who knew?
Speaker 3: All Right, I'm trying to see if de locus only
Speaker 3: come out every seven years, Okay.
Speaker 4: Just saying it all And then I've just never really
Speaker 4: looked into the life cycle of a locus, so I
Speaker 4: got no idea. Unlike periodical cicadas, which emerge every thirteen
Speaker 4: to seventeen years, locus can swarm and reproduce multiple times
Speaker 4: within a year.
Speaker 1: Okay, So cicadas and locus, like I said, they're cousins,
Speaker 1: but they're not the same.
Speaker 4: So fair enough, is it? Wait, wait a fucking minute.
Speaker 4: I live in the South. I hear cicadas screaming every
Speaker 4: single night. Yeah, it's only come out every seventeen years.
Speaker 4: I'm calling bullshit.
Speaker 3: There are there are different types of cicadas. This one,
Speaker 3: the one that it's referring to, is periodical cicadas.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm about to say, boy, that I am catching
Speaker 4: the worst run of like this generation, this generation, this
Speaker 4: generation on a fucking weekly basis.
Speaker 3: But all right, yeah, uh spared animal, what are your
Speaker 3: thoughts sir?
Speaker 5: The also the lotus, they are really the lotus on
Speaker 5: more like mutindy grasshoppers, because if one I was looking
Speaker 5: into it all, when one lotus actually goes into a
Speaker 5: colony of glasshopers, they can it can actually just swalk
Speaker 5: them and make them con obu to act more loads
Speaker 5: like to where they will start eating everything. And funny
Speaker 5: enough though I don't I was a weird kid. So
Speaker 5: whenever the cicadas would come and then they would mold
Speaker 5: and everything, I would try to I would find all
Speaker 5: that the moultings, and I would try to collect as
Speaker 5: me as I could and everything, and I would put
Speaker 5: them like around the house to scare my grandma and
Speaker 5: everything because he hated them.
Speaker 1: Color's that's a child thing in the South. Man.
Speaker 4: You find those locus shells, you gotta funk with them.
Speaker 4: Color me shocked that Sam was a weird Hey, I
Speaker 4: did it too. I didn't like put them around the
Speaker 4: house to fuck with people. But yeah, you you know,
Speaker 4: build you a little collection of them over the years
Speaker 4: and then one day throw them all away.
Speaker 1: I can't say anything, dude.
Speaker 3: We used to have like we used to do like
Speaker 3: hide and seek with the uh the lightning bugs or
Speaker 3: the fireflies whatever people call them, and just smear them
Speaker 3: all over our face, just their.
Speaker 1: Make a frog? Want you ever make a frog?
Speaker 4: Eat one and then turn off the lights and watch
Speaker 4: it glow inside its stomach?
Speaker 1: No sounds fun though, that would be. It's pretty fun.
Speaker 1: It's pretty fun, you know. The Roly Police. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 5: I'd uh be flipping rocks trying to get one that
Speaker 5: I would try police. Uh, I would always mess up
Speaker 5: for ant power to throw the police into the ant
Speaker 5: powder as a kid.
Speaker 1: Damn, you're cruel. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: I would do a handful of them and I'll watch
Speaker 5: them and it was like because my favorite movie at
Speaker 5: the time was The Ants, and I would always try
Speaker 5: to reenact the battle of the Ly Police against the Ants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was. That was The Ants. I know the movie.
Speaker 1: That's a That's a fucking solid movie. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: hands all day though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, although ship have y'all seen talking about Roly Police
Speaker 4: made me think about this.
Speaker 1: I don't know what encephalopod is. Yeah, yeah, have you
Speaker 1: seen that?
Speaker 4: There's some crazy fucks out there that boil them and
Speaker 4: eat them.
Speaker 1: Like lobster.
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised they're probably in Louisiana. We don't have
Speaker 3: them here otherwise I promised we would. But like, I'm
Speaker 3: just watching these people and I watched this one home
Speaker 3: boy try to make a sushi roll out of it.
Speaker 3: I'm just watching the process to clean this thing, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I'm I'm not saying I wouldn't give
Speaker 3: it the old college try, but I am saying that.
Speaker 1: That's that's the level of skepticism I have on this one.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I don't know, like, how does this smell?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good on most seafood, to be honest with you, Like,
Speaker 3: I'm not eating a squid. I'm not eating no octopus.
Speaker 3: I'm not eating no fucking oysters.
Speaker 4: That's that's gross most fish, Dude, I'm not.
Speaker 5: Broiled.
Speaker 3: You know how close that is to swallowing bro on
Speaker 3: some real like no homeo like that is that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you're into oysters, it's kind of gay.
Speaker 4: Most people would disagree with you, But I hear your point.
Speaker 4: I do, but hold on, what about like Charle royleed, No,
Speaker 4: it doesn't have the same texture like jack.
Speaker 1: And cheese. On that mug. Even fried I think they're disgusting.
Speaker 4: Damn, They're just not good like in okay, some muscles
Speaker 4: the same way.
Speaker 1: That's really saying something.
Speaker 3: If I fry you and you are still disgusting, like
Speaker 3: because fried food is just always going to be delicious, right,
Speaker 3: terrible for you, but delicious for the most part. If
Speaker 3: you suck fried, there's just no help in you.
Speaker 4: I respectfully disagree, But you and I have a different palette.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I get it.
Speaker 3: We do you like to eat the Oh you tried
Speaker 3: nutriar rat before, haven't you?
Speaker 1: Oh? Nutra's delicious, dude.
Speaker 4: Everybody gets so thrown off because of the term rat
Speaker 4: associated with it, But it's basically a beaver with a stumptail.
Speaker 1: It's not the size of a rat. It's the size
Speaker 1: of a fucking beaver. Dude. The same with kapy barra.
Speaker 1: But is anybody like weirded out about eating kappy barra? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why would you? I didn't even know people eat those.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, let's have a little history lesson, bro, have
Speaker 1: a kapy bara magnet on my fridge.
Speaker 4: Once upon a time, the Pope had to give special
Speaker 4: permission for the missionaries in Central America to eat kappy
Speaker 4: bara on lint, and their argument for it was that
Speaker 4: it spends more time in the water than it does
Speaker 4: on land, and the popes like that sounds like a
Speaker 4: fish to me.
Speaker 1: Tat al, so they could eat kapy bara during lnt.
Speaker 3: By the way, anybody doesn't know what a nutrier rat is.
Speaker 3: It's this fucking godforsaken creature.
Speaker 1: It's not like aggressive or that sheeth. They look like
Speaker 1: full on carrot sticks. Have you ever seen a beaver
Speaker 1: up close? They don't have teeth, dude, orange, Look up
Speaker 1: a beaver.
Speaker 4: Look up a beaver in the wild, bro, not some
Speaker 4: little zoo somebody's pet like.
Speaker 1: They're not They're not cute creatures.
Speaker 4: And also we me and my people wage war on
Speaker 4: those fuckers for damming up all the waterways their assholes.
Speaker 3: H Well, they got yellowish teeth, but it's not pure
Speaker 3: orange like the other ones.
Speaker 1: That is much herbing.
Speaker 4: My point is neutra eat only fresh vegetation. They never
Speaker 4: eat anything dead or rotten, even plant light. They don't
Speaker 4: eat like dead logs and shitoe.
Speaker 1: They're right.
Speaker 4: Their fur is as waterproof as beaver is, and they
Speaker 4: have about as much meat, and they are fucking delicious,
Speaker 4: and their fur is great as.
Speaker 1: Far as like making stuff out of because it's so waterproof.
Speaker 1: Look at this baby beaver. Look how cute that thing is.
Speaker 1: That is a baby, and I believe that's AI. You
Speaker 1: think so it looks very AI could be wrong, but
Speaker 1: it's even if it's okay. Look at a baby neutra.
Speaker 1: I've never actually seen one. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Is it kind of like you've never seen a baby pigeon?
Speaker 4: Therefore pigeons aren't real?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but saying pigeon's been Oh look here's
Speaker 3: a baby neutral.
Speaker 1: Look at this little baby. Look at it. They look
Speaker 1: like little hamsters the time to get big? Do that
Speaker 1: thing delicious? I know they had blonde ones.
Speaker 4: I did not know that either. Is that an albino
Speaker 4: might be damn now I would. I'm curious about this
Speaker 4: and never eating an albino animal, I am curious if
Speaker 4: albino meat tastes different than regular I just there's not
Speaker 4: enough of them to for us to like really hold
Speaker 4: that experiment. But if I ever am out hunting and
Speaker 4: kill like an albino squirrel or an albino rabbit or
Speaker 4: something like that, best believe there will be an experiment conducted.
Speaker 1: What's his name, that.
Speaker 3: The guy the famous serial killer that was eating everybody.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a little bit.
Speaker 4: I think you probably mean Dahmer, but there's a few
Speaker 4: eating people. He was eating like different.
Speaker 3: Colored people as well, Like he was getting He didn't
Speaker 3: give a fuck if they were white or black. He
Speaker 3: was just eating whatever came to his place.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, is this whatever you could catch Domino?
Speaker 5: He actually preferred. Uh, he preferred the gentleman of the
Speaker 5: darker complex. Though he did have if I can't remember,
Speaker 5: I don't remember if it was a Hispanic boy or
Speaker 5: I think it was probably even maybe even been a
Speaker 5: Filipino boy. But he had like a fourteen year old
Speaker 5: boy that ran away rund of the cops. He was
Speaker 5: he had cuffs on and everything, and he was kind
Speaker 5: of already beaten.
Speaker 1: But the cops just gave him back to Dahmer.
Speaker 5: Because they were like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is a
Speaker 5: domestic thing. And you gotta keep in mind that the
Speaker 5: homosexuals was more of a taboo thing back in the day. Also, Uh,
Speaker 5: while Dahmer was in the army, he got a little drunk.
Speaker 5: He was a medic and he raped you guys, and
Speaker 5: that's why he got discharged from the army from while
Speaker 5: he was over in Germany.
Speaker 1: So he was eating American and he was raping the crowds.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of uh. He was. He was a
Speaker 1: troubled man.
Speaker 4: Troubled that's that might be the most pc term I've
Speaker 4: ever heard to describe a serial killer.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 5: He got he met he he uh, he met the
Speaker 5: mopping bucket while he's and so he kind of went
Speaker 5: out clean of ish.
Speaker 3: He had his fair share of fans though. He was
Speaker 3: getting a lot of fan mail and ship too, which
Speaker 3: is kind of crazy.
Speaker 4: That ballers mean that so many serial killers get fan mail.
Speaker 4: Oh look at Ted, the Ted Bundy, John William Gate
Speaker 4: or John Gasey.
Speaker 1: Where John Wayne Gacy, that's the one all of.
Speaker 3: Them, which, by the way, John WAYE. Gacy was Penn
Speaker 3: Palace with Nickelodeon guy. You remember that, the old pickle Boy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Vinsky and the uh wait yeah, Ted Grensky
Speaker 5: and the the ice Man.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's with Yousky.
Speaker 10: He he was they said he was a he had
Speaker 10: over two hundred and fifty murders.
Speaker 5: He would he didn't he overinflated his thing. It was
Speaker 5: an ego and it was a lot of his thing
Speaker 5: was because his dad beat the ship out of him.
Speaker 5: Same with John Gaysey, and that's why he really he
Speaker 5: had a couple of kids with his wife. But he
Speaker 5: was really more of a gay man. He just he
Speaker 5: had to present as a straight man. He was a
Speaker 5: pillow of his community. But that's just goes to show
Speaker 5: people can wear multiple masks.
Speaker 1: That was his beard, you know. But yeah, Koklinsky old iceman.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 4: At one time he said he had had like over
Speaker 4: five hundred kills under his belt or something like that,
Speaker 4: and he wrote these books. He gave all these things
Speaker 4: about him being a mafia hit man, and then you're right,
Speaker 4: the number was substantially lower than what he said.
Speaker 1: He fell in love with his own legend at one point.
Speaker 1: There's so many dudes.
Speaker 5: But he also wanted to kill his brother while he
Speaker 5: was in prison because his brother killed a thirteen year
Speaker 5: old gold tossed off of a roof of about off
Speaker 5: of a roof of a building after he raped through
Speaker 5: a couple like a couple of days straight.
Speaker 1: So he said that the guard tried to take him
Speaker 1: off because he was going to try to kill his
Speaker 1: brother in prison.
Speaker 4: Yeah, most of the contract killer variety are not down
Speaker 4: with killing children and or women for the most part,
Speaker 4: some of them don't care. But Koklinsky, at least I'll
Speaker 4: give him that credit. He didn't he didn't dabble in
Speaker 4: that realm. But uh, yeah, there's so many people and
Speaker 4: like I understand like embellishing stories from time to time.
Speaker 4: I get it, but I'm finding out more and more
Speaker 4: to kind of detract but kind of on the same
Speaker 4: vibe here. There are so many people in the vetbro
Speaker 4: community that have embellished their stories to such a ridiculous
Speaker 4: regard and then they're getting found out later. Like old
Speaker 4: Tim Kennedy. He's one that just got drugged through the
Speaker 4: mud for his story being bullshit. Chris Kyle is another one.
Speaker 4: His book was highly highly embellished, and his family even
Speaker 4: got sued by Jesse Ventura for lying about a situation
Speaker 4: that happened with him.
Speaker 1: There's this other dude named Shrek. He was known as
Speaker 1: the Sheriff of Bagdad or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 4: He is currently getting drugged through the mud because most
Speaker 4: of his stories complete bullshit.
Speaker 1: It's I understand like that same with the oh, what's
Speaker 1: his name alone? Survivor boy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many of these guys that like, if
Speaker 4: they were to just be completely forthright and honest about
Speaker 4: their story, it would be fine. Like their true story
Speaker 4: is actually pretty incredible in of itself.
Speaker 1: Is that a version like stolen Valor? You think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: not necessarily it.
Speaker 4: I guess it depends on to what level the story
Speaker 4: is being told and like what lies are being told.
Speaker 4: Like if you want to medal for something that you
Speaker 4: didn't do, yes, I would say stolen valor. If you
Speaker 4: wrote a book and embellished some stuff, but like your
Speaker 4: service was legit, your deployments were legit, and some of
Speaker 4: the stories may have been a little more open to
Speaker 4: interpretation and this kind of then maybe you could say
Speaker 4: that was like you, you know, taking creative liberties or whatever.
Speaker 4: It's not technically stolen valor, but yeah, have you got
Speaker 4: some sort of an award because of it? Yeah, I
Speaker 4: would say that that would absolutely be stolen Valor.
Speaker 5: Good Sam, Jacob, you can go first.
Speaker 10: I just touched off Marcus Litrael because he even said
Speaker 10: that he put during the fire fight, he put his
Speaker 10: weapon down and he covered his ears while his buddy
Speaker 10: was his mother and arms was injured but shot bleeding out,
Speaker 10: saying help me, Marcus helped me, and he just held
Speaker 10: his hands over over his ears till his buddy stopped talking.
Speaker 1: So fuck him on that alone, and then you have
Speaker 1: what was the other I think he admitted that, though
Speaker 1: didn't he.
Speaker 5: Also Chris col he he was a notorious fucking liar.
Speaker 5: He's actually the reason why, uh, Jesse, the body of
Speaker 5: VENTROI cannot go back to any.
Speaker 1: More US or seals.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, defens because he said in his book he
Speaker 5: said he punched Jesse because Jason said that Navy seals
Speaker 5: deserved to die when Jesse himself was a frogman, the
Speaker 5: precursor the seals, but not even that.
Speaker 4: They weren't even in the same room. Like the entire
Speaker 4: story is made up.
Speaker 1: And everybody's jumping on Jesse because he is.
Speaker 5: He he was suing Chris Kal's family and they said, oh,
Speaker 5: he's a war ven, He's a war hero.
Speaker 1: Dude. Had he lied? Uh?
Speaker 5: He lied about having a multiple uh like rewards that
Speaker 5: he had. He had. I want to say he had
Speaker 5: like a couple of Bond stars stars, but he said
Speaker 5: he had even more than so than that and he
Speaker 5: had a couple of purple hearts, and like growing up,
Speaker 5: like I was always real big in the military.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 5: Hell I went to the Marine Corps. But I watched
Speaker 5: that movie and out and everything. As when it first
Speaker 5: came out, I thought dude was a hero.
Speaker 1: But now looking back, I'm like, now that no more.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I under I think I still respect.
Speaker 5: Him because he was protecting his men, but that that
Speaker 5: kind of like you kind of tarnished the Seals legacy,
Speaker 5: my dog.
Speaker 4: You know, if you if you're on an embellish like
Speaker 4: he didn't have to. The true Chris Kyle's story like
Speaker 4: was badass in and of itself. There was no need
Speaker 4: for the embellishments in the book. There was no need
Speaker 4: for the embellishments in the movie. The actual true events
Speaker 4: of what he did while in country were badass enough
Speaker 4: to make a decent movie out of.
Speaker 1: You didn't need to do all that extra shit. But
Speaker 1: it's you know, Jacob, you know the the his name
Speaker 1: is Sam childer As.
Speaker 5: They did a movie about him, and it's a true
Speaker 5: it's true based on a true story.
Speaker 1: I recognized their name. Helped me out.
Speaker 5: Machine Gun Preacher. He was an outlaw biker. Then he
Speaker 5: was made to a stripper and everything that they got.
Speaker 5: I watched the movie and everything.
Speaker 1: Uh he typical.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't think he was a military or anything.
Speaker 5: I'm not exactly should but I know he was in
Speaker 5: an outlaw. He was an outlaw biker.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 1: He ended up going, uh, going to Africa. I want
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 5: Anyway, he's he started helping the being a missionary for
Speaker 5: God and everything. He's he actually started helping with orphanages.
Speaker 5: I highly recommend watching the movie. It will make you cry.
Speaker 5: What's the name of it, The machine Gun Preacher.
Speaker 1: The machine Gun Preacher. I'll check it out. I highly
Speaker 1: recommend it, and I think you would thirty enjoy it.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, man, look this up and I think that also.
Speaker 5: Look up Hughes Molzach. He was the first black captain
Speaker 5: of a shipped on World War Two. Though he was
Speaker 5: not a part of the Navy, he was actually part
Speaker 5: of the mudget mines.
Speaker 1: Yo. Gerard Butler played in this. Yes, sir, oh damn, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll check this shut out? Fuck you.
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just got my bubble bursted a little bit.
Speaker 3: There was this new movie that came out and me
Speaker 3: and the kids went to go see it. It's called Weapons,
Speaker 3: And at the beginning of the movie, they said, this
Speaker 3: is based on a true story, and I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, how did I not hear about this because
Speaker 3: it was like a story not to I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: blow it off or anything like that, but basically, seventeen
Speaker 3: school children went missing and then there was a little
Speaker 3: bit of witchcraft involved and it got a little crazy,
Speaker 3: and I was like, holy shit, this is based on
Speaker 3: a true story. And then you go back and find
Speaker 3: out it's like, none of it's based on a true story.
Speaker 3: It was all entirely fictional. How are they able to
Speaker 3: write that it's based on a true story if it's
Speaker 3: all fictional, that doesn't make.
Speaker 4: Sense because if even like one small section of it
Speaker 4: actually happened, then the rest can be creative liberties.
Speaker 1: Something we talked about that before, right, I mean, but
Speaker 1: not even one percent of it was true.
Speaker 4: That's fucked It's absolutely fucked up. And I've heard mixed
Speaker 4: reviews about the Weapons movie.
Speaker 1: I heard it was so awesome.
Speaker 4: Now I've also heard it's not worth your time to
Speaker 4: watch because it's fucking cringe.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know enjoyed it. Seen it, I thought,
Speaker 3: I mean, it definitely threw me through a loop. I
Speaker 3: thought it was a pretty good movie. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't see many horror films. I don't really even know
Speaker 3: what to compare it to. I wouldn't even know if
Speaker 3: I would call it a horror film. It was more
Speaker 3: of a thriller than anything else.
Speaker 1: I get down with horror movies.
Speaker 4: If it's like slasher and psychological thriller, I'm really not
Speaker 4: into horror movies. If it has anything to do with
Speaker 4: like actual dark shit demonics or witches or witches and
Speaker 4: zombies and that kind of shit, Okay, I could probably
Speaker 4: fuck with it if it's like that style. It's just
Speaker 4: a lot of those things, those horror movies that are
Speaker 4: based in like actual satanic ritual and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: These dudes don't just like pull something out of their ass.
Speaker 4: They typically do some source material to figure out and
Speaker 4: get it right on camera. And I personally believe that
Speaker 4: those types of movies have a true spirit attached to.
Speaker 1: Them, and I don't enjoy inviting that into my life.
Speaker 4: But like Jason X and Freddy Krueger and Mike Myers, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'll watch it all day because like that, that's just
Speaker 4: fucking ridiculous, and that's the point, you know, But I digress.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting though, because the whole time
Speaker 3: I was watching it, so the witch in that movie,
Speaker 3: she looks so familiar. But I realized that I recognized
Speaker 3: her from like a really old movie, and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, that was John Candy's wife.
Speaker 1: And have you ever seen Uncle Buck, oh his girlfriend?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, dude, it was her, but she's like
Speaker 3: way older now. Obviously it was like whatever thirty something
Speaker 3: years ago that movie came out. And then literally the
Speaker 3: next day I saw an article that was posted on
Speaker 3: the day that I went to go see the movie
Speaker 3: saying that Uncle Buck is thirty six years old today.
Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, what a weird coincidence. John
Speaker 1: Candy a fucking legend, all legend, Dawn before his before
Speaker 1: his prime, you.
Speaker 4: Know, him, and Chris Farley, dude, both of them. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, we got to get to these chat messages.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot. I wanted to.
Speaker 3: I wanted to mention this meme that The Spirit Animal posted.
Speaker 3: It's a fireman talking to a classroom full of kids
Speaker 3: and he goes, so remember stop drug, and the kids
Speaker 3: go shut them down, open up shop. The fire goes,
Speaker 3: whoa no, and then the kids are like, that's all
Speaker 3: rough riders roll.
Speaker 1: I wish, but i'mna be honest with you.
Speaker 4: I guarantee that maybe in a classroom of like fifty,
Speaker 4: possibly one kid would get that reference.
Speaker 1: And nowadays, yeah, and our in our day it was.
Speaker 4: But I've had to teach of my kids that when
Speaker 4: somebody screams regulators, the only correct response would be mount up.
Speaker 1: And I had to introduce them to why that is. Okay,
Speaker 1: we listened to og Rapp in this house. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: funny enough. I'm the only guy.
Speaker 5: I was one of the few, uh in my home
Speaker 5: room was like pe and everything Domo senior year, I
Speaker 5: was like the only white guy in my pe cass
Speaker 5: and yes I'm white. What my mom was a half
Speaker 5: bleed she's half white, half Asian. I didn't know it
Speaker 5: was an agent at this point.
Speaker 1: I think that counts. Sam.
Speaker 3: I think you're just you know, it's like if you
Speaker 3: got a little mixture, then you're that. That's the way
Speaker 3: I've always understood it.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh my god, is that right? The term you're using?
Speaker 5: I don't know the actual term, but that is like
Speaker 5: one drop of black blood. You're You're not white, you're black.
Speaker 5: That was the ruler of everything.
Speaker 1: I don't live that.
Speaker 5: Okay, I might be racially Asian or whatever Asian, but
Speaker 5: I'm I'm culturally white as fuck.
Speaker 1: Denying that.
Speaker 5: But I was the only guy I've ran the music
Speaker 5: and everything. I was the only one who knew dm X,
Speaker 5: and that kind of scared me. Like none of the
Speaker 5: like the coaches move like who put this on? And
Speaker 5: it was the only white guy that was I had
Speaker 5: DMX pastor Troy, I had had all of them playing.
Speaker 4: Still, one of my favorite things on YouTube right now
Speaker 4: is a British guy who's doing a poetic reading of
Speaker 4: DMX Bring your Whole Crew. Yeah, it's prime YouTube, it's
Speaker 4: you know, but anyway, classic. There is also a meme
Speaker 4: that Spirit Animal posted from Maos Dong in nineteen seventy
Speaker 4: six that says.
Speaker 1: A dog that barks is not cooked. Well, ah correct.
Speaker 3: Tony said Mau died in nineteen seventy six, but he
Speaker 3: said a lot of things, and I honestly don't know
Speaker 3: if this is his joke or someone else's. He had
Speaker 3: like twenty heart attacks in nineteen seventy six, twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll have that doll, could be could be.
Speaker 3: Rob Vision says, what's up, Colt Famo. We're we're finally
Speaker 3: getting back to the chat. We're gonna we're gonna start
Speaker 3: paying a lot of these We're gonna catch up, y'all.
Speaker 1: Whatever, Raw.
Speaker 3: Zombie said, Ruby is fire. There is a lot of
Speaker 3: women that think that Ruby Rose is really sexy.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that she's not attractive.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that, you know, I like my women
Speaker 4: with a little more curves on them and not looking
Speaker 4: like a skeletal figure.
Speaker 1: That's all. She got a pretty face, I'll give her that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure.
Speaker 4: But like there's a lot of people that think that
Speaker 4: Miley Cyrus is like so hot, and I'm like, I
Speaker 4: respectfully disagree. Taylor Swift, Oh god, she's like I personally
Speaker 4: like a woman with you know, some things up top,
Speaker 4: some hips, some curves, some thigh meat. I know I'm
Speaker 4: a weird one for liking my women to look womanly,
Speaker 4: but whatever.
Speaker 1: Speaking of her and Travis Kelsey just got engaged today.
Speaker 1: You see that. Oh yeah, I know. The Internet's losing
Speaker 1: their absolute shit over this, and it's.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, well, maybe perhaps y'all, perhaps Taylor Swift will
Speaker 4: quit making breakup tracks. We shall see either that or
Speaker 4: she'll probably lead Travis Kelcey to commit suicide one day.
Speaker 5: Who fucking mean, it'd be a cold day in hell
Speaker 5: that bitch would freeze over before that bitch stops breaking
Speaker 5: art's just to write another fucking album.
Speaker 9: Bro.
Speaker 4: I guess we'll see if she breaks Travis's She broke
Speaker 4: a trickster God's heart, dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But Loki, she's broken Tom Hidlson, Yeah.
Speaker 5: He played a Hank senior in Hank's autobiography. He actually saying, oh, oh,
Speaker 5: what's the song?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Love sick Blues? You can sing?
Speaker 5: And then I saw a video of it the other
Speaker 5: day and that point saying, wait, did they really have
Speaker 5: a hankin color?
Speaker 1: Was it really him singing? Though?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen no Brother or art thou? Right?
Speaker 4: You remember all so soggy bottom boys? For the record,
Speaker 4: That was not George Clooney singing. That was a voice
Speaker 4: over by a band. It sounded a lot like him,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't him. Are we sure that it was Hittles?
Speaker 1: I think the star is born Bradley Cooper singing that
Speaker 1: isn't he?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: He is, But also look at his vocal talent as
Speaker 4: opposed to the actual professional singer next to him. It's
Speaker 4: a fucking night and day comparison. Plus, he's like a
Speaker 4: country singer and it's not much singing involved with that.
Speaker 1: Have you seen pictures modern country?
Speaker 4: I should say modern country is not much singing old
Speaker 4: country and and Chris Stapleton.
Speaker 1: I'll give the credit where.
Speaker 5: It to do.
Speaker 1: There's a few of not much an auto tune.
Speaker 3: But have you seen Nick Cage getting ready for the
Speaker 3: role he's about to play John Madden? No, what he
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's some kind of bodysuit or he actually put on
Speaker 3: two hundred pounds. But holy shit, it is crazy how
Speaker 3: much he looks like John Madden.
Speaker 4: But you also understand that Nick Cage plays the same
Speaker 4: character in every movie he's ever played in ever.
Speaker 1: Nick Cage just is Nick Cage. And how in the
Speaker 1: fuck is he about to pull off John Madden and
Speaker 1: not just sound like he's a national treasure. I don't
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 3: I'm about to show you a picture of him, dude,
Speaker 3: it is. It's like crazy, how good they got it?
Speaker 1: This fucker all right, so Nick Cage show me images.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Check him out, dude, look at him. Yo,
Speaker 1: that's fucking awesome, son, Son, What is happening right now?
Speaker 4: I'm praying to that that's a body suit because Nick
Speaker 4: Cage has always been a pretty uh slender dude overall
Speaker 4: that he looks like in this picture. For Cold members
Speaker 4: listening right now not seeing this, first of all, jump
Speaker 4: on Patreon you should. Secondly, it looks like he, no shit,
Speaker 4: put on about two hundred extra pounds your boys, looking
Speaker 4: like he's walking around at three eighty on the hoof.
Speaker 3: Okay, Like, bro, I'm just waiting for him to like
Speaker 3: burst through the screen and say boom, tough act into acting.
Speaker 1: Remember those commercials? Oh I remember him? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I well see, maybe he'll do well by the role.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll quit being Nick Cage for a second and
Speaker 1: be John Madden.
Speaker 4: I just I can only see him still being Nick
Speaker 4: Cage but trying to be John Madden boom or some
Speaker 4: dumb shit.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't do a good
Speaker 1: Nick Cage impression. That was actually pretty good. Oh, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. H It's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Because he was even if you ever seen uh into
Speaker 3: the Spider Verse, he's like the old Spider.
Speaker 1: Man, I have none.
Speaker 3: It's the same Nick Cage voice as always. It's funny
Speaker 3: because he's only got one thing that he does. You know,
Speaker 3: but who doesn't love Nick Cage?
Speaker 13: Though?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I like him in movies.
Speaker 4: I think his best would have been Gone in Sixty
Speaker 4: Seconds and or National Treasure. Just me speaking, will be
Speaker 4: half myself. But yeah, no, he's a phenomenal actor. He
Speaker 4: just has no range.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could agree to that. Him and Johnny depperah
Speaker 3: actually boys in real life, you.
Speaker 1: Know they are.
Speaker 4: But Gihnny Depp is somebody who's got fucking range. Dude,
Speaker 4: motherfucker needs to be Willy Wonka. Does he need to
Speaker 4: be Captain Jack? Does he need to be uh Edward
Speaker 4: Fear and Loathing?
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: I know just talking about this, Damn I know that name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, the rank. I know it was something S
Speaker 1: but I could not think of what? Yeah? Does he
Speaker 1: need to be Hunter S. Thompson? Does he need to
Speaker 1: be a dude in Vietnam. Does he need to be
Speaker 1: a dude? With World War Two? And the dude's got
Speaker 1: fucking in range. Dude.
Speaker 3: Between him and Leo, I would say, two best male
Speaker 3: actors of our generation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just sucks that they're also batshit crazy, you know,
Speaker 4: But I mean, I guess that's what happens when you're
Speaker 4: that level of an artiste or whatever.
Speaker 3: Well, they're both super into the occult too. Like I said,
Speaker 3: Nick Age, actually doesn't he live in New Orleans.
Speaker 4: Uh, he has a house in New Orleans and he
Speaker 4: bought a mausoleum shaped like a big white pyramid in
Speaker 4: the middle of one of the cemeteries here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean there's a lot of famous people
Speaker 4: that have houses in New Orleans, especially in the French Quarter,
Speaker 4: and shit that those houses.
Speaker 1: Go for insane money.
Speaker 3: But dude, it was always like a huge deal whenever. So, like,
Speaker 3: my parents live in Lake Havasu City in Arizona, right,
Speaker 3: and we go out there every year. We used to
Speaker 3: go out there every year during the summer and we
Speaker 3: would spend a couple of weeks out there. It was
Speaker 3: just like our favorite place to go.
Speaker 1: And at the top of.
Speaker 3: One of the mountains, everybody knew that was Arnold Schwartzen
Speaker 3: Nigger's house, and like he all he lived at the
Speaker 3: dude one single house at the top of a mountain,
Speaker 3: the tippy top, and everybody could see it from no
Speaker 3: matter where you were standing at and everybody was always like, hey,
Speaker 3: you know Arnold lives here. You know, don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's like a proud thing that people from like Avezu.
Speaker 1: Were, I get it.
Speaker 4: Big area, especially party towns and shit. Hell, Channing Tatum
Speaker 4: owned a bar down Bourbon Street at one point. Matthew
Speaker 4: McConaughey owns a house down Bourbon Street. Sandra Bullock when
Speaker 4: she used to live in New Orleans for I mean
Speaker 4: when she would come through town. I actually was buddies
Speaker 4: with one of the bodyguards that would be assigned to
Speaker 4: her locally. And there's you know, big cities, big popular
Speaker 4: tourist destinations and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, famous people just be having houses. I mean Brad
Speaker 1: Pitt too in New Orleans, him and Angelina.
Speaker 4: I want to say they did it. One point, I
Speaker 4: couldn't tell you. Honestly, I don't. I don't get starstruck
Speaker 4: by much anymore. Honestly, living in DC and meeting a
Speaker 4: bunch of famous people at the time. I get it
Speaker 4: killed the whole starstruck thing for me. There's them I
Speaker 4: would love to meet, But honestly, it's like there's tons
Speaker 4: of them that I would love to like sit and
Speaker 4: have a chat with. But I also know that I'm
Speaker 4: never going to get to the level of like having
Speaker 4: a chat with these types of people.
Speaker 1: But like, some of them seem cool, some of them
Speaker 1: seem douchey, but it's not like, oh, do you know
Speaker 1: who that is?
Speaker 4: It's like a dude that wakes up and takes a
Speaker 4: big watery shit like the rest of us and puts
Speaker 4: his pants on one leg at a time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same as I mean, I'm assuming.
Speaker 3: You know what, though, I would love to drop some
Speaker 3: acid with Johnny Depp. Though that sounds like a hell
Speaker 3: of a good time.
Speaker 1: I feel like you get raped, you're molested. Hey, it's
Speaker 1: by Johnny Depp.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just kidding. Is he Is he your
Speaker 1: gay hall pass?
Speaker 4: For the record, I would say there's no shame in
Speaker 4: that being your gay hall pass, I get it.
Speaker 1: No, No, he looks like he smells so probably not.
Speaker 1: He looks like he smells like Patuli and red Wine.
Speaker 1: I feel this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's probably not. I don't want to go there.
Speaker 3: And there's like, to be honest, like gay hall Pass
Speaker 3: is kind of like wild to me because there's never
Speaker 3: been a single man to where I looked at and
Speaker 3: been like, you know who I'd really love to have
Speaker 3: behind me for one night. I've never thought that in
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 4: I guarantee I can name one right now, go go ahead,
Speaker 4: Brett Favra, No, I would.
Speaker 3: I would have a beer with him. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna fucking bone him or vice versa or whatever. That's okay, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm not into the gay shit. That's no judgment for
Speaker 3: the people that are. It's just not my flavor, you know.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 4: I just if there was somebody that you'd be like,
Speaker 4: whatever you want, Well, I can name a thing that
Speaker 4: I want, Okay, Like I thought that might be your guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, not at all, not even close. There's not a
Speaker 3: single man at all. That's fair, but spirited animals said,
Speaker 3: not gonna lie. I came close to starting and OnlyFans.
Speaker 1: Oh Samuel, I'm glad you didn't, because again, it lives
Speaker 1: on the internet forever. Keep in mind, at the time
Speaker 1: I was I was a big whore, so fair.
Speaker 4: I thought about starting an OnlyFans but being super g
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Speaker 4: like I would be like wearing an apron doing dishes,
Speaker 4: not just an apron, like no, no, well dressed, well
Speaker 4: groomed doing dishes, and like complimenting the camera. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying For the women out there that don't
Speaker 4: get the compliments from their husband, I'll just be sitting
Speaker 4: there doing this just like, honey, your hair looks amazing today,
Speaker 4: and just charge like two dollars for a monthly subscription
Speaker 4: of me like folding, laundry, mopping, yet just the randomest shit,
Speaker 4: just to see what would happen. But I was also like, yeah,
Speaker 4: that sounds like a lot of work for a joke,
Speaker 4: and I don't want to commit to the bit that hard.
Speaker 1: Just condition your beard. Maybe flat iron it a little
Speaker 1: bit I can't do.
Speaker 4: When I flat iron this shit, it looks it's like
Speaker 4: nanny goat shit. It doesn't it doesn't have no body
Speaker 4: whenever I flat iron it.
Speaker 1: Yeah you are you? You got some wiry hair on
Speaker 1: my face. My hair up here not so wiry.
Speaker 4: If I flatten this, it just goes straight down and
Speaker 4: I look like I'm trying to have an emo phase.
Speaker 1: But I like, I like my hair having some bounce,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I like having body with it.
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Speaker 14: a hearse and she actually made like a whole joke
Speaker 14: about it, and it's pictures of her with this hearse
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Speaker 14: but like she actually makes a good bit of money
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Speaker 1: It's I've seen this chick.
Speaker 4: I couldn't recall her name, but she's like the whole
Speaker 4: esthetic of her look is very goth and she leans
Speaker 4: into it heavy and it's just her living her life
Speaker 4: with a hearse.
Speaker 1: There's also one chick that cooks called only Pans. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I like that an OnlyFans cooking shit. Fuck yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Like she makes a lot of like dordy jokes
Speaker 5: and everything and not like she is a dying piece
Speaker 5: within dying pieces.
Speaker 1: But I watch a lot of cooking stuff. I get
Speaker 1: more so I watch cooking. I can't cook, but like
Speaker 1: watching it, and I'm just like, Okay.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's because you have really nice
Speaker 5: smile or the putty as where you can fucking throw
Speaker 5: down in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: But one of the reasons I want to marry he go.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, being able to cook is hot.
Speaker 4: I think that's actually gender fluid as far as that goes.
Speaker 4: Like a dude that can cook, women find that really
Speaker 4: hot and vice versa, not just being in the kitchen
Speaker 4: cooking being good at it. So no shame in watching
Speaker 4: some cooking shows to hone in on this skill set, Sir.
Speaker 4: I myself enjoyed that as well. I love cooking, though, I.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm now trying.
Speaker 5: I'm about to make my first attempt at making traditional
Speaker 5: Japanese women from scratch.
Speaker 1: I want to try to make the noodles and everything
Speaker 1: from scratch. You can't do that, you're white. Oh my god, listen,
Speaker 1: am we doing right now like that? We can't make
Speaker 1: spaghetti because you're not Italian?
Speaker 5: Like, no, come on, I'm not a Hispanic either, but
Speaker 5: I fucking love tacos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like to get better at making Mexican
Speaker 4: food honestly, just on a personal note, but Mexican vacation
Speaker 4: food's kind of been my whole jam for so long.
Speaker 3: It's it is what it is, Sam, not the spirit animal.
Speaker 3: Sam said, I want this comment to do some crazy shit,
Speaker 3: wake us the fuck up out of all this crap,
Speaker 3: and then said, yes, our solar system, Jonathan, come on,
Speaker 3: let me just say something right now, real quick. I'm
Speaker 3: only just now coming around to the idea that the
Speaker 3: universe might actually be real.
Speaker 4: Okay, Like I'm only which is mind bledting to that.
Speaker 4: So all the different terms I'm I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: it absolutely is. There is, and I'm just trying to
Speaker 4: be a little bit more open minded to the to
Speaker 4: the to, you know, the the universe.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know all the fucking.
Speaker 4: Terms interplanetary, innerspace, interstellar. I'm like, I think inter I'm
Speaker 4: like interdimensional. Is that what we're talking about?
Speaker 3: No, that's where my mind went initially, only because you
Speaker 3: know that movie with Matthew McConaughey, Interstellar, he was he
Speaker 3: went to another dimension.
Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, maybe that's what it means.
Speaker 1: I've actually not seen that great movie.
Speaker 4: I've heard that it was, which, for the record, I
Speaker 4: don't think i've seen Matthew McConaughey in a bad movie.
Speaker 4: There's a few actors that, like, you would have to
Speaker 4: look hard to find a bad movie they were in.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Matthew McConaughey is one of them.
Speaker 1: But he's a classic.
Speaker 4: It's another guy who he got one character. He plays NonStop,
Speaker 4: but it works. You know, middle aged Texas draw gentleman
Speaker 4: kind of fits the mold for a lot of different.
Speaker 1: Characters in a whole wide variety of movies. Time to
Speaker 1: find out.
Speaker 3: But anyway, Tony said, why are the Japanese and the
Speaker 3: other j people both so associated with porn?
Speaker 13: The other j people is petropolitically correct way of saying
Speaker 13: the US Tony, Now, uh, I mean to be fair
Speaker 13: and right underneath, Sam's like, wait, did the Jews do
Speaker 13: weird porn like the Jabs?
Speaker 1: No, but they own OnlyFans.
Speaker 4: And if I'm not mistaken, most of the porn websites
Speaker 4: are owned by Jewish.
Speaker 1: People, not the State of Israel. Just so everyone's clear.
Speaker 4: But yeah, they are owned by people who happen to
Speaker 4: be Jewish, very much like most of Hollywood, you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a thing. Here's a full fact.
Speaker 3: I did a little bit of research before the show,
Speaker 3: just out of my own curiosity, and I was trying
Speaker 3: to figure.
Speaker 1: Out who was it.
Speaker 4: Who was the first person to ever write it in
Speaker 4: a newspaper, the first person to ever blast it to
Speaker 4: the masses that what happened over in Nazi Germany.
Speaker 1: Who was the first person that called that the Holocaust?
Speaker 4: Like who was the you know, because there's always somebody
Speaker 4: that pushed is out of term and then it catches,
Speaker 4: like I don't want to say, catches like fire. But
Speaker 4: the Jewish people named it that, right, Uh, Actually it
Speaker 4: was so there they had h it was the first
Speaker 4: time it was mentioned was in the New York Times.
Speaker 4: And uh, the New York Times actually had a Jewish correspondent.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what his name was, but turns out
Speaker 4: he was actually being funded by the Zionist fucking Political
Speaker 4: Party of Israel or whatever, right, sure, And and so
Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting that, you know, a a
Speaker 4: jew essentially is what called that the Holocaust, which means
Speaker 4: burnt offering, so you know, my my whole magical witchcrafty
Speaker 4: mind whatever. I'm like, wait a second, you're trying to
Speaker 4: call that an offering. That's weird, you know, like you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree that, but it was. It was a
Speaker 1: burnt offering. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just thought that that, like, of all the terms
Speaker 3: that you could use, you would use the one that
Speaker 3: meant a burnt offering. Like that's kind of either a
Speaker 3: very insensitive or be like, yo, you trying to gain
Speaker 3: something out of this fucking offering, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I don't think they were trying to gain I think
Speaker 4: they were saying that the Nazis were following a demonic
Speaker 4: spirit and that it was a burnt offering to the
Speaker 4: evil one. I don't think that they saw it as
Speaker 4: being an offering to their God.
Speaker 3: Maybe not, I don't know. I just thought it was
Speaker 3: strange that, you know, they would say that because Holocaust
Speaker 3: is like a what, it's not Greek, It's like it's Hebrew.
Speaker 3: I believe it has this Hebrew stem or something like that.
Speaker 1: I believe it. But that's the other thing too.
Speaker 4: If a certain group of people have a genocide waged
Speaker 4: on them. I think it's their rights to name it
Speaker 4: wherever the fuck they want, whether it's Jewish or Rwandan
Speaker 4: or whatever the case. The victims that survive it, they
Speaker 4: can name it what they want.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Not I may not like the term they choose.
Speaker 4: But like, it wasn't my genocide, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: the Natives called the trail of tears the trail of tears.
Speaker 1: White people didn't come up with that shit.
Speaker 3: I guess my point is is that, like, let's just say,
Speaker 3: knock on wood. Hopefully this never happens to anybody that
Speaker 3: anybody knows, but like let's just say that there's some
Speaker 3: crazy kid, right and he just so happens to burn
Speaker 3: up a fucking Jewish temple or something like.
Speaker 1: That, and then the Jews would be like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was it was a full on Holocaust. You'd be like,
Speaker 1: what the what do you mean? Like, what are you saying?
Speaker 1: I think that one. I don't think they would call
Speaker 1: it that at that point, because it's it's compare to
Speaker 1: the Holocaust, where millions of them burn versus one temple
Speaker 1: full I feel like we're comparing like a drop in
Speaker 1: the bucket to the whole bucket. They might.
Speaker 3: I don't know, But do you need like, what's the
Speaker 3: number that you would need in order to call it
Speaker 3: a burn offering? I wonder how much how many people
Speaker 3: are needed for a sacrificial burn offering you? Is there
Speaker 3: a specific number?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 4: Like the whole thing about a mass shooting, technically speaking,
Speaker 4: if four people get shot, that's considered a mass shooting.
Speaker 1: I'm like four, four, I mean, that's what's considered mass.
Speaker 1: That's fucking ridiculous. That's small. Yeah, I would four people
Speaker 1: get in a fistfight. Is it a mass brawl? No,
Speaker 1: it's a fucking scuff, dude.
Speaker 3: Four people are an in an elevator. You're not saying
Speaker 3: that that's a mass, like a large mass of people,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Four is considered mass. Dot dot dot.
Speaker 1: That's propaganda, you know what I'm saying. God is love.
Speaker 1: You have a good looking shirt on there for you, Sarah,
Speaker 1: What a do.
Speaker 9: I was gonna say that was in like the nineteen seventies,
Speaker 9: right when that came out in the New York Times.
Speaker 1: That was like the fifties. I think it was right
Speaker 1: after the war ended. I could be wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not good with the years.
Speaker 9: Uh you know, I mean the Zionist worked with the Nazis.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 9: One thing that really opened my eyes was Jewish author
Speaker 9: Lenny Brenner's book fifty one Documents the Nazis Collaboration or
Speaker 9: the Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis, where he you know,
Speaker 9: goes through in their own documents, in their own words,
Speaker 9: and shows all the collaboration. And then on a grand
Speaker 9: theft World two nights ago, they had a guy who
Speaker 9: you know, went through the full history of that whole
Speaker 9: thing and was talking about, you know, their stated goals
Speaker 9: from like the eighteen hundreds was to wipe out the Palaestines.
Speaker 9: But the whole thing is crazy.
Speaker 1: Now, No, I'm glad you brought up the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: I just searched this.
Speaker 4: So the word holocaust was first used to describe the
Speaker 4: Ottoman massacre of American Christians in nineteen or eighteen ninety
Speaker 4: five by the New York Times, but it became associated
Speaker 4: with the Nazi genocide of the Jews, primarily in the
Speaker 4: nineteen fifties. So the term holocaust was first used for
Speaker 4: a Christian genocide that took place.
Speaker 1: Very interesting, well, probably first used in America, right, Well,
Speaker 1: there was the New.
Speaker 4: York Times that ran that article, but it was about
Speaker 4: the Ottomans killing a massive group of Christians in eighteen
Speaker 4: ninety five, So that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Huh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't really want to talk about Christian genocides,
Speaker 4: even though they happened like a lot.
Speaker 1: But whatever.
Speaker 9: The other crazy thing he was saying, which you know,
Speaker 9: I haven't verified myself, but this guy seems it was
Speaker 9: done his research, was the way they were treating the
Speaker 9: way the people in Israel were treating the Holocaust survivors
Speaker 9: who ended up migrating to Israel, which was not good.
Speaker 9: Like they shunned them and looked down on them, I
Speaker 9: guess for not fighting back harder or whatever, but they
Speaker 9: were kind of really shunned and mistreated. They the ones
Speaker 9: who ended up going to Israel after surviving.
Speaker 1: I can believe that it's similar to how people in
Speaker 1: Africa are reading the African Americans that are moving to
Speaker 1: their homeland by their mission, not Jacob, this is them,
Speaker 1: and when they get there, the native Africans do not
Speaker 1: want to fucking deal with them at all and treat
Speaker 1: them as outsiders and have like some serious racism towards them,
Speaker 1: and shit, I could to americanized.
Speaker 4: Uh, I honestly can't speak on why it is they
Speaker 4: they treat this full on foreigners, like, yeah, just because
Speaker 4: of the same skin color does not mean that you're
Speaker 4: my people by any means.
Speaker 1: People in Africa do not feel that way.
Speaker 4: Hell, they wage genocide on people that look just like
Speaker 4: them because they're great grandfathers from a different tribe. So like, yeah,
Speaker 4: this this whole American push into Africa that had tried
Speaker 4: to get some traction underneath it. Yeah, the people in
Speaker 4: Uganda and Ghana and all these places were like, yeah
Speaker 4: you can, you can get back to where you came from.
Speaker 1: Fuck off.
Speaker 4: So I could mission a world where the Jews that
Speaker 4: were living in Israel are what I'm it wasn't called
Speaker 4: Israel at that time, treated the Holocaust survivors poorly.
Speaker 1: I could see that It's just called Palestine back then,
Speaker 1: wasn't it.
Speaker 4: Uh Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, it was called Palestine
Speaker 4: ever since Rome took over the area after seventy a d.
Speaker 1: They renamed Judea is Palestine.
Speaker 4: That's why I like the big thing with Jesus, and
Speaker 4: it was Pontious Pilot, the third governor of Judea. That's
Speaker 4: also important because Rome didn't have many governors over Judea
Speaker 4: for very long, because after they had their uprising they
Speaker 4: tore the temple down in seventy a d.
Speaker 1: They renamed it Palestine.
Speaker 3: Okay, Tony said, Jewish people generally don't participate in porn
Speaker 3: like sports, but they owned the studios and pioneered its
Speaker 3: legal justification. Al Goldstein is a prominent example. Les Wexner
Speaker 3: ran Victoria's secret and also was a close Epstein associate.
Speaker 3: The Jogid then said, just keep in mind that these
Speaker 3: are non religious ones.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, there's quite a few porn stars
Speaker 4: that are of the Jewish variety as well.
Speaker 1: They absolutely exist, right.
Speaker 3: Joe, from Australia and has an Australian flag with a kangaroo, said,
Speaker 3: I don't feel upside down.
Speaker 1: I walk up right depending on my marijuana consumption.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you Joe for explaining that no, you
Speaker 4: are not upside down, even though you're on the same
Speaker 4: ball that we are. But you know, some people, some
Speaker 4: people of the flat earth variety, don't believe all that,
Speaker 4: and that is that is their right as human beings.
Speaker 1: To believe what they believe.
Speaker 4: Is there necessarily an upside down or a right side
Speaker 4: up in space at all?
Speaker 15: Though?
Speaker 1: Like, how did they you know? How would you know?
Speaker 3: Like if you're just out there floating and you're you're
Speaker 3: around all these road planets and fucking you know stuff
Speaker 3: stuff out there floating, how would you know which way
Speaker 3: is up?
Speaker 4: You don't like to to your point, So when you're
Speaker 4: in zero gravity, like for instance, you know how us
Speaker 4: standing up, feet down, head up right, Our heart, our blood,
Speaker 4: our circulation flows a certain direction. Cool, And if you've
Speaker 4: ever hung upside down, you can feel all the blood
Speaker 4: rushing to your head. You don't have that in a
Speaker 4: zero gravity type situation. It's just kind of all flowing naturally.
Speaker 4: But because there's no gravity and there's no resistance on
Speaker 4: your body, your muscles will suffer dystrophe very very quickly.
Speaker 4: So that's why a lot of the people that work
Speaker 4: on the International Space Station and stuff, they have to
Speaker 4: start doing like real strength training just that they don't
Speaker 4: like they're not weaklings when they get back to Earth.
Speaker 3: Damn, that sounds not fun. Spirit animal. He raises his
Speaker 3: real hand before he hits the raised hand icon.
Speaker 1: Where are we at in the chat? I'm trying just
Speaker 1: so you.
Speaker 16: Talk about you talk about dystrophe. I have actually had
Speaker 16: muscle district fee before. My leg was in a cash
Speaker 16: for about six months. That shit sucks and it sucks
Speaker 16: to you build the muscle. I still have bom my
Speaker 16: leg because of how much moss A lost.
Speaker 1: Oh, it absolutely does.
Speaker 4: Now, imagine going from space where there's no weight essentially,
Speaker 4: then you get back to Earth where at sea level
Speaker 4: everything is fourteen points six ninety six pounds on you,
Speaker 4: so you feel like every ounce of your body is
Speaker 4: wearing a body suits. The same whenever I wear armor,
Speaker 4: I feel like now I have an extra eighty pounds
Speaker 4: of weight on me at all times. Even just to
Speaker 4: move my hand is extra effort. Breathing is extra effort.
Speaker 4: It's it's the same thing that's if space is in
Speaker 4: fake and gay.
Speaker 5: Of course with that assumption, so it'd be like you
Speaker 5: have your main pack, not not your day pat but
Speaker 5: like your main pack full of all all your bullshit
Speaker 5: on your body at twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: But it's not just on your chest.
Speaker 4: Even moving your hand takes extra effort. That it didn't
Speaker 4: Moving your foot takes extra effort. It's it's every single
Speaker 4: bit of your body, like.
Speaker 1: Being what like being in a swimming pool.
Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. There you go, Like walking the
Speaker 4: bottom of a swimming pool. I say, you're holding a
Speaker 4: weight till I keep you at the bottom. Just moving
Speaker 4: forward is extra effort that you wouldn't have had prior
Speaker 4: to kind of thing. So, yeah, when they're in space,
Speaker 4: they have to use a lot of resistance bands and
Speaker 4: shit to try to make sure that their muscles don't
Speaker 4: atrophy or you know, go to that level.
Speaker 3: A lot of their footage is underwater. You can see
Speaker 3: a lot of the bubbles. But I mean, Steph, what
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 8: Well, I I I actually want to had a question
Speaker 8: for you guys. I think it's a bit more flat
Speaker 8: than it is around.
Speaker 1: Let's go stay f right.
Speaker 8: I also freaking, you know, when it comes to science
Speaker 8: and stuff like that, I also acknowledge I don't know
Speaker 8: fuck about shit. But I was listening to Jay Dreamers.
Speaker 8: He's well known for his research on the plasma apocalypse,
Speaker 8: and he was talking about density, buoyancy and pressure high
Speaker 8: pressure low pressure, and he theorized that with high pressure
Speaker 8: and low pressure. When those when low pressure and high
Speaker 8: pressure collide, if there is some sort of dome, whether
Speaker 8: it's the Van Allen Belt or some sort of like
Speaker 8: outside pressure, it could create that type of thing that
Speaker 8: you see in NASA where you see all the astronauts
Speaker 8: floating around and there's there's for sure green screen stuff
Speaker 8: that they do, and you know there's random astronauts that
Speaker 8: were stranded for a year and somehow they have like
Speaker 8: Santa Claus hats and stuff like that. So there's an
Speaker 8: like that fake and gay shit. But my question is
Speaker 8: kind of around this idea of like high pressure and
Speaker 8: low pressure and whether it could create an area or
Speaker 8: a zone, you know, several miles up where you could
Speaker 8: basically float without being really far out, because I don't.
Speaker 8: My belief is that we've never really gone outer outer space.
Speaker 1: At least it's never been filmed.
Speaker 3: Because every single thing that is filmed, whether they're on
Speaker 3: the ISS or they're in a space shuttle, that is
Speaker 3: the fakest shit I've ever seen every time, Like even
Speaker 3: the the rovers on Mars, get the on Mars, get
Speaker 3: the fuck out of here with that dude, Like, get
Speaker 3: the actual fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: You're trying to fool me with that.
Speaker 3: Come on, all you need to do is just tint
Speaker 3: the fucking screen, do it on some barren land and
Speaker 3: oh look, you know, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 3: just it's not real. It's like, how many times do
Speaker 3: you need to be fooled? And I'm not I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that that proves that they're not going to space.
Speaker 3: I used to think that, but I think that maybe
Speaker 3: they just if they actually are going to space, the
Speaker 3: idea that you know, they would just be feeding us
Speaker 3: bullshit only shrouds it in even more secrecy, almost like they're, uh,
Speaker 3: they're a lot more privileged to have that kind of
Speaker 3: infer rather than giving it back to the masses, because
Speaker 3: it makes you wonder, like, first of all, we don't
Speaker 3: there is speculation out there that there could be other planets.
Speaker 3: You know, some people think in Niberu or Planet X
Speaker 3: or you know, you want to talk about the nodes
Speaker 3: and the moon nodes and is there another sun and
Speaker 3: all these other things, and it's like, you know, if
Speaker 3: you're getting information, you're getting video access to what's going
Speaker 3: on out there. I don't think that they would want
Speaker 3: us to see that for whatever reason. I don't know why,
Speaker 3: but I don't know what are your thoughts on it?
Speaker 3: God is love?
Speaker 9: Who was the guy y'all had on who used excuse me,
Speaker 9: NASA's own physics to disprove all that, because that was
Speaker 9: pretty damn convincing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lou Luke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to get my physicist buddy on
Speaker 4: the show with Luke because he speaks that high educated language,
Speaker 4: and Luke love him to death. But he starts going
Speaker 4: into concepts and theories and math that I just simply
Speaker 4: don't have the mental bandwidth to keep up on. I try,
Speaker 4: I try my damnedest, but he's he's on some next
Speaker 4: level shit. I want to get my physicist buddy, who
Speaker 4: actually is in school for that, to come and have
Speaker 4: a little back and forth with him, not like a debate,
Speaker 4: but just somebody with a little more education. Tell me,
Speaker 4: is my boy on one or is he off his rails?
Speaker 1: I need to know, you know. But yeah, we love
Speaker 1: Luke to death. A cult member through and through.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, Sam said, we all had that one
Speaker 3: teacher that we wish we would I had a few
Speaker 3: of them, man, no doubt, that's for sure. We had
Speaker 3: a teacher at Dutchtown High School that got in trouble
Speaker 3: for you know, fucking kids.
Speaker 1: It wasn't kids. I mean he was a senior, but
Speaker 1: he the fucked a senior boy. Yeah, yeah, who was eighteen.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like, you know, yeah they're still
Speaker 3: in school, but not necessarily pedophilia.
Speaker 1: We had a.
Speaker 4: Guidance counselor at Santamo that rented a party bus and
Speaker 4: brought a bunch of kids way I say a bunch
Speaker 4: of kids. They were also all seniors and to my
Speaker 4: knowledge were all over eighteen, but uh brought them to
Speaker 4: like a strip club and partied and allegedly fucked a
Speaker 4: few of them, and then she got arrested and fired.
Speaker 4: They almost were not allowed to walk at graduation. Then
Speaker 4: in response, when they finally get in the thumbs up,
Speaker 4: they drove to the graduation ceremony and.
Speaker 1: A party bus like that crowd. It was a whole thing.
Speaker 4: It was a whole, big scandal at the high school. Meanwhile,
Speaker 4: it's like, what'd you expect was gonna happen? Obviously they're
Speaker 4: gonna lean into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God is love.
Speaker 3: I think he's referring to Bashar here said I just
Speaker 3: don't consider him or Crowley or Parsons or any of
Speaker 3: these other evil fucks channeling demonic spirits as any kind
Speaker 3: of talent or genius.
Speaker 1: Thank you, I would agree.
Speaker 3: Spirit animal said, I believe the earth is more of
Speaker 3: a snow globe. Could be all right, also said, if
Speaker 3: I was in a room with Stalin Hitler and Myhammad
Speaker 3: with a gun with two bullets, I'm shooting Stalin and
Speaker 3: his pelvis and ate off in his pelvis, and I'd
Speaker 3: beat Mohammad to death with a rock.
Speaker 1: I'd channeled the rage of Cain.
Speaker 4: Damn, you don't have to, dude, You could just kill
Speaker 4: Mohammad in the way that he died. Actually, which bro,
Speaker 4: my YouTube algorithm has been showing me so many things
Speaker 4: on Islam lately.
Speaker 1: Just real quick pop quiz. Anybody know how Mohammad died?
Speaker 5: Go ahead, sam Uh, he said God, according to the
Speaker 5: Koran is uh, He's God said that he fabricated any
Speaker 5: words that all I didn't say.
Speaker 1: He would God would say, it is a order, and
Speaker 1: he even made it. He lied, he said, he said,
Speaker 1: God say was that he didn't say, and is a order? Seven.
Speaker 1: So here's the the yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, but let's let's overarching theme this right, So he
Speaker 4: said that everything he ever said was true. Then he
Speaker 4: gave a speech one day that later he was demonically inspired.
Speaker 4: Satan had gotten into his head that day that wasn't divine,
Speaker 4: but the rest of it was even though, like you
Speaker 4: just said, if he ever said something that wasn't of
Speaker 4: a law, then he was a false prophet and he
Speaker 4: would be killed in.
Speaker 1: A certain way. So here's how he died.
Speaker 4: He murdered a village of Jewish people, right, and there
Speaker 4: was only a few survivors.
Speaker 1: One of them was this woman.
Speaker 4: And keep in mind he just torched the town and
Speaker 4: killed her entire bloodline, her husband or children, all this,
Speaker 4: and she said, hey, let me cook you a meal,
Speaker 4: and Mohammed, because he was also enlightened, thought this was
Speaker 4: a really good idea.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you know that she poisoned him.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, why would she do that after he just
Speaker 4: destroy her entire life in one afternoon?
Speaker 1: But okay, and then it was a very slow, painful death.
Speaker 4: And he even has in the Koran where he felt
Speaker 4: his ajor to sever, which was another sign, per his
Speaker 4: own words, that he was a false prophet. But yes,
Speaker 4: of course this is all according to Halla literally calling
Speaker 4: him a false prophet.
Speaker 3: Why would that make him his order being severed? Why
Speaker 3: would that make him a false prophet?
Speaker 4: It was written in the Qur'an that it would make
Speaker 4: whoever is a false prophet and teaches ill would have
Speaker 4: their a order severed. Oh these were his words it Oh,
Speaker 4: and he's saying that bad part was demonically inspired.
Speaker 1: No, that wasn't even the demonically inspired part. So he's
Speaker 1: just full of shit. Then start to finish.
Speaker 4: Yes, like I swear anybody who's listening to his words
Speaker 4: like it's it is really really bad.
Speaker 1: He couldn't read or write. He's really go off.
Speaker 3: So we we have Royce as our Jewish correspondent. I
Speaker 3: wish we had an Islam correspondent, not not necessarily to
Speaker 3: ship on anybody or to say that anybody's right or
Speaker 3: wrong or anything like that, but just to I want
Speaker 3: to be able to have that side so that I
Speaker 3: can better understand it from a side of of the
Speaker 3: perspective of somebody who actually believes that you know, because
Speaker 3: I don't know what whenever y'all talk about it, because
Speaker 3: it's like I don't believe with I don't believe you
Speaker 3: whenever you talk about any other religion other than Christianity.
Speaker 4: Personally, Please look up if I have said anything towards Islam,
Speaker 4: please fact check me. Please do not just you saying
Speaker 4: that's all the good cult members out there, because there's
Speaker 4: chapter and verse in the Koran of these taking place,
Speaker 4: and there are so many and I don't mean like
Speaker 4: a handful, I mean thousands of not just Christian, not
Speaker 4: just Jewish, not just educated people who are debating Islamists
Speaker 4: like toe to toe, and it is like every single
Speaker 4: one of them is a dog walking I haven't seen
Speaker 4: one debate where a Muslim came out on top when
Speaker 4: you're going scripture for scripture, verse for verse, proving that.
Speaker 1: What they believe is the way in the truth.
Speaker 3: Because Mohammad he was like what five or six hundred
Speaker 3: years after Jesus, I think.
Speaker 1: Right over, yeah, six hundred years after so, and he
Speaker 1: was saying that he was like the second coming of Jesus.
Speaker 4: No, he believed that Jesus was a prophet, but not
Speaker 4: like the guy, even though Muslims believed that when Jesus
Speaker 4: returns that will be a sign of the apocalypse.
Speaker 1: And it's like he took bits and pieces from religions right.
Speaker 4: He took the Torah, all of the Torah, so the
Speaker 4: first five books of the Bible, the same five books
Speaker 4: that the Jews and the Christians acknowledged to be truth.
Speaker 4: He took those because if all of these people are
Speaker 4: saying it's truth, that's gotta be right. Then he took
Speaker 4: some folklore, some legend, he took some gnostic texts, and
Speaker 4: he kind of put that into his own amalgamation and
Speaker 4: then through his own pagan spent on it, based off
Speaker 4: of other pagan tribes or around his area of operation,
Speaker 4: and made this whole new religion. And he was supposed
Speaker 4: to be the divine prophet sent by Allah to lead
Speaker 4: people to the light.
Speaker 1: And it's like, not the Savior, He's not.
Speaker 4: He wasn't ge he was the prophet that is supposed
Speaker 4: to lead people in the correct way.
Speaker 1: And it's like, start to finish you. You were literally
Speaker 1: so full of shit your entire time.
Speaker 3: It's baffling when you say pagan, what do you mean
Speaker 3: more specifically, because that's very that's that's a catch all term.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, that's fair. So around the area of.
Speaker 4: Mecca, before it became Mecca, there were tribes that worshiped,
Speaker 4: for lack of better words, pagan deities, right, Sun God,
Speaker 4: sky God, sand God, water God, and goddesses and the
Speaker 4: whole nine. It wasn't It wasn't Egyptian, it wasn't Greek,
Speaker 4: it wasn't Persian.
Speaker 1: It was its own style, right.
Speaker 4: And this is the same way to say, like a
Speaker 4: Native American tribe has their own like quote unquote pagan deities.
Speaker 4: These are not a one to one comparison to the
Speaker 4: Egyptian pagan pantheon and the Greeks and the Romans and
Speaker 4: the Nordics.
Speaker 3: They have their own spin on it, you know, Like
Speaker 3: Hercules would have been pagan, yes, yes, but the.
Speaker 4: Tribes that he was taking from to make that type
Speaker 4: of pagan these were like sand tribes in the Arabic world.
Speaker 4: This wasn't like most of these people had never heard
Speaker 4: of Hercules or or Isis and both, and like these
Speaker 4: people didn't get down with that. These are people that
Speaker 4: lived and died within one hundred miles of where they
Speaker 4: were born.
Speaker 1: So some pagans are worse than other pagans. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying worse.
Speaker 4: I'm saying that he took it from these obscure tribes
Speaker 4: that you if we were to go into like the
Speaker 4: historical breakdown of this area and the gods that they worshiped,
Speaker 4: it's gods that you would not recognize. Like it's it's
Speaker 4: terms that you might have never heard in your life.
Speaker 4: It's the same with like a Native American tribe, to say, well,
Speaker 4: you know who the Navajo's main god was, Yeah, we
Speaker 4: could look it up, but like if I was to
Speaker 4: tell you right now, you've probably never heard that name before,
Speaker 4: kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I never heard of the Blue Star Kachina for the
Speaker 1: longest time either.
Speaker 4: But my point, my point, and like, yeah, these days
Speaker 4: with all of the academic, academic study and scholarship that
Speaker 4: has been done for the history in this area, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's probably been some deep dissertations that have been done
Speaker 4: on this. But my point is he took gnostic texts,
Speaker 4: he took a little bit of the Methusians, he took
Speaker 4: a little bit of the the esoteric shit, he took
Speaker 4: the Torah, he took some jew he took some Christian,
Speaker 4: he took some things, and he kind of blended it
Speaker 4: into this amalgamation of what he called.
Speaker 1: What we would now call anyway Islam. And then after
Speaker 1: he died is when the not the see what's it called?
Speaker 4: It starts with the h the other book that basically
Speaker 4: tells them about the seventy two versions of the hadith
Speaker 4: thank you that was developed after he died. So I
Speaker 4: should mention that he didn't have nothing to do with
Speaker 4: the hadiths, right, And then the whole line of succession
Speaker 4: after he died, who should lead Islam? That's a whole
Speaker 4: other other conversation. It went to his father in law first,
Speaker 4: then it goes to a cousin, and then it goes
Speaker 4: to this nephew, Then it goes to this. This is
Speaker 4: where the whole sheite and soon he split breaks off
Speaker 4: because some believe that it should be merit based who
Speaker 4: leads the religion should be somebody who was obviously the
Speaker 4: best guy for the job. Then you have this other
Speaker 4: group that believes that it should obviously be somebody of
Speaker 4: direct bloodline descent from Mohammed. Then he got the Kurds
Speaker 4: fucking off doing Kurtis shit over there. It's yeah, it
Speaker 4: spins off into its own shit Islam. Like are they
Speaker 4: like literalists or more of the gnostic kind of sense?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Is what are their how do they look at it.
Speaker 1: They are literalists to their words in their books.
Speaker 4: But whenever you get one of them, and like I
Speaker 4: mean just like a random Muslim, right, not just oh
Speaker 4: Ali down the street kind of thing. But if you
Speaker 4: get like a Muslim scholar and you can show them, Oh,
Speaker 4: you believe X Y and Z about Jesus for instance,
Speaker 4: you understand that that was taken from these Gnostic texts.
Speaker 4: And the only reason why he knew this was because
Speaker 4: it was told to him because Mohammed couldn't read or write,
Speaker 4: so because he was doing warlord shit and on the
Speaker 4: Silk Road and all these things, he heard stories from
Speaker 4: people as they were traveling. Some of these stories were
Speaker 4: from the Gnostics, and that that's why he believes X
Speaker 4: Y and Z.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with any truth behind it.
Speaker 4: It's third, fourth, fifth, seventh person stories that have been
Speaker 4: passed down to him. And they just disregard that because
Speaker 4: it was obviously given to him by a law and
Speaker 4: a dream.
Speaker 1: So you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting?
Speaker 3: How is there not a single shred of paper of
Speaker 3: Jesus writing anything?
Speaker 1: He As far as him writing things, he had people
Speaker 1: write down things as he was saying. I mean he did.
Speaker 4: He never wrote a single thing down, I mean, not
Speaker 4: that we would know of, but we do know that
Speaker 4: he could read, write, He was very literate.
Speaker 1: Where's the proof of that, though?
Speaker 3: You know, like I feel like that would be the
Speaker 3: most expensive autograph of all time, right, Like, if you
Speaker 3: had a Jesus autograph, you'd be like, I'm I'm literally
Speaker 3: rich for the rest of my life, and.
Speaker 1: My kids kids kids are rich for the rest of
Speaker 1: their lives.
Speaker 4: Like you would think that there would be some shred
Speaker 4: of some kind of literature that he specifically wrote.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 4: However, he keep in mind as a carpenter, not a philosopher, right,
Speaker 4: and so it's not like when he wrote things down
Speaker 4: people like paid attention. He had some of his followers
Speaker 4: write things down that he was saying. But to the
Speaker 4: point about him being able to read or write, there's
Speaker 4: multiple accounts of him reading the Torah. There's multiple accounts
Speaker 4: of him reciting chapter and verse to the prophecies of
Speaker 4: Old and things like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying.
Speaker 3: In a Jewish rule, I'm not saying he couldn't read.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like you would think there'd be some
Speaker 3: evidence of him writing anything. I mean as a carpenter,
Speaker 3: or surely he made fucking calculations or something like that,
Speaker 3: you know, like measures.
Speaker 1: Cut one's kind of deal.
Speaker 4: But whenever he left his craft and went on his ministry,
Speaker 4: he didn't like continue his carpentry work. But I will
Speaker 4: say this, I actually just got in this debate with
Speaker 4: somebody the other day talking about uh, historical sources for
Speaker 4: Yeshua of Nazareth, and like, how much of that is verified?
Speaker 4: There are legitimately so many secular sources that verify that,
Speaker 4: even atheist sources that verify that the dude himself absolutely
Speaker 4: walked the earth, absolutely was crucified. His followers called him Christ.
Speaker 4: He allegedly could perform miracles, he rose from the dead. Again,
Speaker 4: these are secular, non Christian, non Jewish sources that are
Speaker 4: saying this about the guy in question.
Speaker 1: So it blows my mind when people are like, what
Speaker 1: do you even know if he existed?
Speaker 4: It's like like even the most atheistic staunch scholars will
Speaker 4: acknowledge that at least your boy did live and die
Speaker 4: and was crucified, Like that's an all historically sound fact. Now,
Speaker 4: whether he was the son of God or not, Okay,
Speaker 4: I wish the yogid was here. He might be able
Speaker 4: to clarify this.
Speaker 1: I think he left.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 4: Even the talent that talks about him, they don't say
Speaker 4: good things about him, but they absolutely acknowledged that he existed.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I was.
Speaker 3: I heard something and I wanted to clarify it with him.
Speaker 3: Damn I saved that up for a minute too. Somebody
Speaker 3: was saying that like about how you know Jesus coming
Speaker 3: fulfilled all the prophecies and stuff like that, being born
Speaker 3: of a virgin dah da da da da. But then
Speaker 3: you go all the way back and I guess born
Speaker 3: of a virgin. In the Old Testament, it was never
Speaker 3: meant to be interpreted as a virgin. It just meant
Speaker 3: a young maiden, a maiden, yeah, which, but that's the thing.
Speaker 4: A maiden means an unwed woman, and then the Jewish
Speaker 4: tradition an unwed woman would be a virgin.
Speaker 1: Interesting spirit animal, Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 15: Also when it talks about when Jesus ex crucifixion, how
Speaker 15: the sky darking and everything, yep, I can't remember what dynasty,
Speaker 15: but a guy in China jotted it down, talked about
Speaker 15: the eclipse and everything.
Speaker 4: We talked about that on an episode where some of
Speaker 4: the ancient Chinese religions line up really crazily to traditional
Speaker 4: Hebrew tradition, and they might call it by a different name,
Speaker 4: but some of their rituals and things like that, there
Speaker 4: is a line of thinking. I'm not saying I necessarily
Speaker 4: agree with this, but there is a line of thinking
Speaker 4: that when the tribes were scattered to all corners of
Speaker 4: the earth, some of them set up shop.
Speaker 1: In what we would now call China.
Speaker 3: Oh, I just found an article that's explaining it. I'm
Speaker 3: just I'm gonna share the screen so everybody can see this,
Speaker 3: so you know, I'm not making this shit up. And
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, I never heard of the source,
Speaker 3: but we'll see. It says we all know the story
Speaker 3: of the Virgin Mary and the Bible and the immaculate
Speaker 3: conception that led to the birth of baby Jesus. However,
Speaker 3: there has recently been speculation. Recently, this is written in
Speaker 3: twenty twelve, been speculation regarding the use of the word
Speaker 3: virgin with regards to Mary. The reason for the speculation
Speaker 3: being that it has been discovered that in the original
Speaker 3: Hebrew text, the word ha alma was used, a word
Speaker 3: similar to the English young or made. The mistranslation occurred
Speaker 3: when this text was translated into Greek, where the word parthenos,
Speaker 3: meaning virgin is used. The Hebrew word for virgin is
Speaker 3: bethulah and cannot be found anywhere in the original Hebrew
Speaker 3: ti text, meaning that the original writer did not intend
Speaker 3: for it to be read as virgin but as a
Speaker 3: young girl. This error in the text begs the question
Speaker 3: was it really a mistake or was it purposeful? Taking
Speaker 3: into account that the word virgin is not in the
Speaker 3: original text, is quite a leap from young to virgin,
Speaker 3: especially in the context of religion. Moreover, if this was
Speaker 3: only a mistake, imagine a world where Mary was just
Speaker 3: an average young girl. How much would this change things.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, there are others that argue that
Speaker 3: it was not an error, but the word virgin was
Speaker 3: strategically chosen instead of the word young, the end result
Speaker 3: being that Mary was held above other women and led
Speaker 3: a holier existence.
Speaker 1: In the book Orpheus, a Hebrew scholar Solomon Rannoch wrote
Speaker 1: that as early as the second century BC, the Jews
Speaker 1: perceived the error and pointed it out to the Greeks,
Speaker 1: but the Church knowingly persisted in the false reading, and
Speaker 1: for over fifteen centuries she has clung to her error.
Speaker 1: The mystery and questions over the choice virgin remain unsolved
Speaker 1: to this day. So here's I'm out with it.
Speaker 4: I do believe that she was a virgin at conception
Speaker 4: of Jesus, right, because again, the term for maiden in
Speaker 4: the term for virgin are two different words. But a
Speaker 4: young maiden, an unwed woman or young woman, especially during
Speaker 4: this time of the staunch Hebrewic way, would have been
Speaker 4: a virgin because that was like the way that.
Speaker 1: I think that this is the prophecy before Mary, though,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, the prophecies predate Mary by.
Speaker 1: A good bit. But I mean, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm not sitting here saying that Mary wasn't a virgin.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that the prophecy might have just said
Speaker 3: that she would have been a young maiden, not necessarily
Speaker 3: a virgin.
Speaker 1: But that's the point.
Speaker 4: A young maiden would have, by default had been a virgin.
Speaker 4: But that being said, but there is a word for
Speaker 4: virgin though. There is a word for virgin, yes there is.
Speaker 4: But all this to be said, the term for her
Speaker 4: being the Virgin Mary that continued even after. In the
Speaker 4: Gospels they mentioned that Jesus had brothers and like, and
Speaker 4: I just went on this big retreat and you could
Speaker 4: you hear these.
Speaker 1: Dudes talk about It was silence, so they didn't talk
Speaker 1: about it then.
Speaker 4: But you I've had these conversations with Catholics that are
Speaker 4: like staunch about Mary dying of Virgin two and it's like,
Speaker 4: even on this retreat, they talked about the Saint James,
Speaker 4: literally Jesus's brother. I should mention that not James's disciple
Speaker 4: to followed him, not Big James or little James.
Speaker 1: James.
Speaker 4: The Saint James was Jesus's biological brother. Yes, son of
Speaker 4: Joseph and Mary. They literally, yeah, they literally found his
Speaker 4: ostuary which is like a box used for bones after
Speaker 4: burial and shit inscribed on the side of it, and
Speaker 4: they've dated it. It's it's accurate. James, son of Joseph,
Speaker 4: brother of Jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and somehow it says.
Speaker 3: The exact ages of Jesus's brothers are not specified in
Speaker 3: the Bible, but they are generally believed to be younger
Speaker 3: than Jesus, who was the eldest. The Gospels named four brothers, James, Joses.
Speaker 1: Josephs, which is about like a Joseph.
Speaker 3: Junior, okay, Simon, and Jude, but there are specific ages
Speaker 3: relative to Jesus are not detailed.
Speaker 4: You might also see Judas instead of Jude, but because
Speaker 4: of Judas the one that betrayed him, they've swapped that
Speaker 4: because Jude is like a shortened version of Judas. But like, yeah,
Speaker 4: all of this is accurate. And he also at least
Speaker 4: had two sisters. We know that as well.
Speaker 1: They're not named, but they do mention them at one point.
Speaker 4: And I've gotten in debates with certain Catholics before and
Speaker 4: they're like, well, you know, there's a term that, like
Speaker 4: the term brother could mean like really close kinship, like
Speaker 4: a cousin or something. And I'm like, no, they have
Speaker 4: a word for cousin. That's how we knew that John
Speaker 4: the Baptist was his fucking cousin. Like they have a
Speaker 4: word for that in Hebrew and in Greek. The transference
Speaker 4: is not there. Then they're like, well, what about later
Speaker 4: when Paul is writing to his brothers at another church,
Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, he's talking about his brothers in Christ.
Speaker 1: The term is the same.
Speaker 4: We use that term today, like you know, I have
Speaker 4: a brother, his name's Cody, But then I have also
Speaker 4: used like my brother in Christ.
Speaker 1: Let me talk to you real quick, like, yes, that
Speaker 1: term is that term.
Speaker 4: But as per the context of Jesus's biological.
Speaker 1: Or technically half because he was half.
Speaker 4: To find my point is, yeah, Joseph and Mary had
Speaker 4: other children, but it was such a big thing for
Speaker 4: them to keep Mary a virgin that then they started
Speaker 4: coming up with other ideas of oh, these were Jesus's
Speaker 4: step brothers from a previous marriage that Joseph must have had,
Speaker 4: and it's like the documentation shows that Joseph was never
Speaker 4: married before he married Maria aka Mary. So it's yeah,
Speaker 4: I am still the belief that the conception was immaculate.
Speaker 4: That is a faith based thing that I personally believe.
Speaker 4: But yeah, as far as the the prophecies go, me
Speaker 4: and Royce have talked about this offline a few times,
Speaker 4: and I've we've broken down how the prophecies wolf were
Speaker 4: fulfilled by Jesus.
Speaker 1: The biggest issue that the Jews have, Yes, they have
Speaker 1: some issues with some of.
Speaker 4: The stuff he did, breaking Sabbath and all these things,
Speaker 4: and then you can combat it with the greater themes
Speaker 4: behind it and why these things were done.
Speaker 1: Their biggest issue is that the timing was wrong.
Speaker 4: That's their big thing, because Israel was Even though you
Speaker 4: could read the accounts of the Jews that were under
Speaker 4: Roman rule, they would have said that they were oppressed
Speaker 4: and in some accounts enslaved, but Jesus leading them out
Speaker 4: of captivity. He didn't do that, so clearly he wasn't
Speaker 4: the guy. And it's like, well, if you read the accounts,
Speaker 4: that never said that he was going to lead Israel
Speaker 4: out of captivity. He said he was going to lead
Speaker 4: all of God's children out of captivity. And he didn't
Speaker 4: mean physical chains and bondage. He's not Moses. He was
Speaker 4: talking about out of sin and like that. It's an
Speaker 4: interpretation dissemination at that point, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it is kind of weird though, because all right,
Speaker 3: for example, anybody that is doing a ritual, whether it's
Speaker 3: religious ritual or witchy ritual or whatever, if you do
Speaker 3: something like one thing wrong, the ritual doesn't work right.
Speaker 3: Like you if you get a like a red heifer
Speaker 3: that has one stray fucking hair, right like that.
Speaker 1: Is not a pure heifer. Therefore the ritual wouldn't work.
Speaker 1: Am I right on that? So I'm glad you brought
Speaker 1: this up.
Speaker 4: Continue your thought, but we're gonna circle back to the
Speaker 4: red heifer in a minute. But yes, to your point, Yes,
Speaker 4: if one thing is out of place, then it's all
Speaker 4: a wash.
Speaker 3: So that being said, if there were I don't know
Speaker 3: how many prophecies there that Jesus was meant to fulfill.
Speaker 1: How many were there, like a thousand? Oh, there was
Speaker 1: a shitload of them.
Speaker 4: And and those prophecies were, for lack of a better word,
Speaker 4: channeled from God, right like, prophesied whatever you got information
Speaker 4: from God somehow, telepathically whatever.
Speaker 1: You got all that information from God.
Speaker 4: And then for Jesus to come and it's like, all right,
Speaker 4: he fulfilled most of them, but not all of them.
Speaker 4: Now do you leave that up to the interpreter that
Speaker 4: got it wrong, that was receiving message from God that like,
Speaker 4: all right, there's this one guy. He fulfilled most of them,
Speaker 4: not all of them, right, Like, So who's in the
Speaker 4: wrong at that point?
Speaker 3: Would Jesus be in the wrong, would God be in
Speaker 3: the wrong, or would the person that would be that
Speaker 3: was interpreting the messages from God be in the wrong.
Speaker 1: At that point.
Speaker 4: He fulfilled all of them, but the prophecies were laid
Speaker 4: down by people of the Hebrew tradition, right, and in
Speaker 4: the day and age when Jesus did walk the earth,
Speaker 4: the people that were the keepers of the Hebrew tradition
Speaker 4: did not like Jesus at all because he was not
Speaker 4: shy about calling them hypocrites to their face in public.
Speaker 1: The whole nine this is yeah.
Speaker 4: They they absolutely saw him as a threat. And at
Speaker 4: this time the political turmoil, not just in Judea but
Speaker 4: under Roman rule as a whole. They were terrified at
Speaker 4: another Jewish uprising happening. So the Pharisee and all of
Speaker 4: them wanted to keep this whole thing under wraps. They
Speaker 4: didn't need no person leading some sort of a revolt
Speaker 4: to throw them from their seats of power, especially somebody
Speaker 4: who is calling them out publicly and making people in
Speaker 4: their flock turn away from their teachings.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: So it was a double entendre of people that really
Speaker 4: wanted him silenced. But then cut two not even forty
Speaker 4: years after Jesus died, they had a Jewish uprising which
Speaker 4: led to them being kicked out of their land again,
Speaker 4: their temple being torn down, all their holiest and religious
Speaker 4: relics just thrown about to the winds. Allegedly the Ark
Speaker 4: of the Covenant made it out. It's a mess. It's
Speaker 4: a it's an absolute mess. But yeah, even the dude Caiaphas,
Speaker 4: the one who oversaw Jesus, is a.
Speaker 1: Judgment, I should say.
Speaker 4: You know, he was kicked out of his position as
Speaker 4: the high priest or whatever, almost immediately after Jesus was crucified.
Speaker 4: It's it's crazy how it all played out, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it was. They believe that the timing was wrong, or
Speaker 4: that he wasn't of the correct bloodline and lineage, even
Speaker 4: though there are other sources that say that he was.
Speaker 4: And it's, as I'm saying, it's like an interpretation issue
Speaker 4: on that.
Speaker 1: But this is something. But to the red Heffer point, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was just gonna say. This is from medium
Speaker 3: dot com. And I was just like, all right, which
Speaker 3: prophecies did he not fulfill? Right, because that seems would.
Speaker 1: Be com to ask a Jesus prophecy question.
Speaker 3: Well, I just typed it in on the computer and
Speaker 3: this is what I got, or on my phone rather,
Speaker 3: and so the Messianic Age of peace.
Speaker 4: So prophecy was Isaiah chapter two, verse four. Micah chapter four,
Speaker 4: verse three described the Messiah ushering in an era when nations,
Speaker 4: in quotes, shall beat their sword, shall beat their swords
Speaker 4: into plowshares, and nation shall not lift up sword against nation.
Speaker 4: It says that wars and violence continued after Jesus's time.
Speaker 4: Christians believe that this will be fulfilled at his return. Yes,
Speaker 4: I was about to say that's talked about in Revelations,
Speaker 4: a thousand year reign of peace and things.
Speaker 3: But another one is a universal knowledge of God. So
Speaker 3: Jeremiah thirty one thirty four and Isaiah chapter eleven, verse
Speaker 3: nine say that in the Messianic Age, all people will
Speaker 3: know the God of Israel and worship him alone. It
Speaker 3: says Christianity spread belief in the God of Israel globally,
Speaker 3: but we still see many faith and disbelief, not universal acknowledgment.
Speaker 3: Christians interpret this as something still to come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, and now, and that's the problem. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's like anything that hasn't happened or didn't happen, it's like, well,
Speaker 3: it's going to So that's the problem with prophecy, though,
Speaker 3: Isn't it like he was supposed to come and fulfill
Speaker 3: prophecy like all wasn't wasn't like him being here was
Speaker 3: supposed to fulfill all that?
Speaker 1: Are we supposed to interpret it as like, well, he will.
Speaker 4: The prophecies that I'm referring to are his works, right,
Speaker 4: being born of a virgin, making the blind see, making
Speaker 4: the lame walk, raising the dead, no broken bones, the
Speaker 4: manner of which his blood would be shited, cast out
Speaker 4: by even his own kind, kicked out of his own
Speaker 4: city of birth. Like, there's a whole list of things
Speaker 4: that he absolutely did fulfill. But then that's the thing,
Speaker 4: the messianic age, we're not there yet, right where that's
Speaker 4: the thing that's after, That's after the showdown, Right, that's
Speaker 4: after the apocalypse happens. That's after the seven years of
Speaker 4: trial and tribulation. Now, all that to say, there are
Speaker 4: those that believe that that has already happened, right, and
Speaker 4: that all these things took place a thousand years ago
Speaker 4: or something like that.
Speaker 1: We're living in Satan's little season in that whole thing.
Speaker 4: I'm personally not of that belief fully, I understand I
Speaker 4: understand where people are going with that, and this is
Speaker 4: not me trying to throw shit and say you're wrong, Like, no, no,
Speaker 4: I I really do understand why people believe that. But
Speaker 4: to that point, we are clearly not living in the
Speaker 4: Messianic age. These are things that are to come. And
Speaker 4: if you look at the chain of events of when
Speaker 4: these things were supposed to happen and why people say, well,
Speaker 4: that couldn't have been Jesus being the Messiah because they
Speaker 4: haven't happened yet.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, the temple has to be rebuilt, it's
Speaker 1: torn down.
Speaker 3: But let me ask you this though, Like, so we're
Speaker 3: talking Torah Old Testament kind of stuff. Whenever it was
Speaker 3: prophesizing about Jesus fulfilling all these prophecies and that would
Speaker 3: be the proof that he was God in the flesh
Speaker 3: and all that other stuff, right, Like, did it say
Speaker 3: that he would fulfill a lot of them now and
Speaker 3: then a lot of the other ones like two thousand
Speaker 3: years after his death, three thousand years after his death,
Speaker 3: or was he supposed to fulfill all of them right then?
Speaker 1: As he came.
Speaker 4: They talk about the ending of a certain age in
Speaker 4: the beginning of a new age, right and then there
Speaker 4: was that believe that oh well zero AD, that's the
Speaker 4: beginning of a new millennia.
Speaker 1: Obviously, that's the beginning of a new age, and that's
Speaker 1: what they meant.
Speaker 4: But I feel like we're putting human timeframes onto a
Speaker 4: divine timeline.
Speaker 3: Well, those things were like so cut and dry, even
Speaker 3: like in India they have a well not just in India,
Speaker 3: but I think that's where it's comes from, as far
Speaker 3: as the Yugas, as far as ages, which is like
Speaker 3: every twenty six thousand years or something crazy like that.
Speaker 1: Right, So is that an age?
Speaker 4: Are we talking about shifting from the age of Pisces
Speaker 4: to the age of Aquarius?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean? Like at which age? Exactly? Exactly?
Speaker 4: And so this is where we get into true intent
Speaker 4: behind some of these things the Hebrew writers or the
Speaker 4: Jewish writers later on, like what was their intent by
Speaker 4: an age or an era? Did they mean a millennia?
Speaker 4: Did they mean a two hundred and fifty years span?
Speaker 4: Did they mean a season? Like There's a lot of
Speaker 4: interpretations to be said on that. So, just with my
Speaker 4: own study and background, that is why I believe what
Speaker 4: I believe, But I do respect others that have another
Speaker 4: thought process, as long as they've done their research to
Speaker 4: formulate their own thoughts, at least I can respect that.
Speaker 4: But real quick, the red halfer that was sacrificed. Okay, Jonathan,
Speaker 4: are you ready for this? I didn't know this until
Speaker 4: two days?
Speaker 1: All right? All right? Was it not perfect?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa. It wasn't even like you. I promise
Speaker 4: you can't see where this is about to go. I
Speaker 4: didn't see where this was about to go. Okay, So
Speaker 4: the red heifer sacrifice that took place, by all all
Speaker 4: all all counts that I can find, it was a
Speaker 4: trial run. That being said, still don't know why they
Speaker 4: would use one of the only certified red heifers that
Speaker 4: we have in existence. Why wouldn't you use a regular
Speaker 4: cow as your practice run? But okay, can you guess
Speaker 4: the group that actually was at the forefront of this
Speaker 4: sacrifice being done?
Speaker 1: Zionist no.
Speaker 4: Islam, Messianic Jews aka Christian Jews.
Speaker 1: Why is that significant? These are Christians? These Christians performed
Speaker 1: this sacrifice.
Speaker 4: Even the guy that was like locked up in his
Speaker 4: crib forever to do the sacrifice, that that guy was
Speaker 4: a Jew.
Speaker 1: He wasn't a Messionic. This is why I don't understand.
Speaker 4: They got with a group it's called Bona Israel or
Speaker 4: something like that. It is a Israeli group and a
Speaker 4: Jewish group at that. But this was being done. It
Speaker 4: was nothing about Orthodox Jews at all. We're like associated
Speaker 4: with this going down. There was like some references that
Speaker 4: were made Messianic Jews, which, for anybody who doesn't know,
Speaker 4: Messianic Jews are people of the Jewish faith that acknowledge
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior, and they lived
Speaker 4: their life in accordance with Jewish tradition, but under the
Speaker 4: understanding that they are a sect of Christians by faith,
Speaker 4: Jewish by blood and by culture.
Speaker 1: Okay, which is what Jesus said, you know, keep on
Speaker 1: doing what you're gonna do exactly. He told the Jews
Speaker 1: to continue being Jewish.
Speaker 4: He told the Gentiles to, you know, change your ways
Speaker 4: and live a more upright life. He told the Jews
Speaker 4: to change your ways and be more upright life. But
Speaker 4: as far as your cultural moral stigmas and the Noah,
Speaker 4: Hydes and the Law and Moses, continue doing that. But
Speaker 4: why in the actual fuck did Messionics perform this sacrifice
Speaker 4: even if it was a mock, even if it was
Speaker 4: just a trial run, and they agree that there is
Speaker 4: no sanctimonious shit with this. It was just a trial run,
Speaker 4: a practice run. Why the fuck are y'all performing the
Speaker 4: practice run?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they? Why would they? It's not their sacrifice.
Speaker 4: Well they're still Jewish, yeah, but the temple's not rebuilt,
Speaker 4: the san Hadrian is not up and running. Like, there's
Speaker 4: no purpose to this group at all having their hands
Speaker 4: at all in this sacrifice being performed.
Speaker 1: But they did. Bro maybe they just want to be
Speaker 1: a part of it.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing to me, Like all the thing ritualistically,
Speaker 1: it's that's the wrong way you're saying what. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can't verify if the guy that actually did the
Speaker 4: sacrifice was in fact of the Levi bloodline or the
Speaker 4: Cohen if you want to go by the modern terms,
Speaker 4: and if it was done in the proper ways and
Speaker 4: this that and the third. I don't know, but according
Speaker 4: to everything that I could look up on this of
Speaker 4: all different backgrounds, not just Jewish sources or Christian sources,
Speaker 4: like just regular secular sources, it was done by for
Speaker 4: lack of better terms, a Christian group performing an ancient
Speaker 4: Hebrew sacrificial rite.
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing to me.
Speaker 4: So before anybody says this was a part of the
Speaker 4: Zionist propaganda machine, it actually was not.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, turn this out, Go ahead, Tony.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I wanted to mention that historically, way back in
Speaker 11: the first millennium, Christians regarded it as a very bad
Speaker 11: thing to try to rebuild the Temple again because they
Speaker 11: thought Jesus himself was the third Temple. And there was
Speaker 11: an emperor named Julian the Apostle in three sixty three
Speaker 11: AD who attempted to rebuild the Temple of Jerusalem, but
Speaker 11: it was ended by an earthquake that destroyed it halfway
Speaker 11: through construction. And I'd say it's only in modern post
Speaker 11: Protestant history that some Christians have taken the opposite belief,
Speaker 11: which is that we should help to build the Third Temple,
Speaker 11: and the Catholic Church does not believe that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, most people don't know about Julian the Apostate, But
Speaker 4: and just me speaking on behalf of my own faith,
Speaker 4: I believe that that was thwarted by we could say
Speaker 4: a natural disaster, some might say supernatural means, because that
Speaker 4: was not the correct timing to rebuild the temple, and
Speaker 4: I'm not even saying that now is the correct timing either.
Speaker 4: There are so many people that are saying that it
Speaker 4: will be rebuilt by twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 4: before twenty thirty, all these things. It's very possible that
Speaker 4: some other shit happens to keep it from being built,
Speaker 4: because we still as of right now, may not be
Speaker 4: in the correct time and place for this to go down.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think we're closer than we've ever been, but I
Speaker 4: don't who's to say if this is the time and
Speaker 4: place to where it's supposed to go down, you know, M.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it'll get rebuilt. They will do some
Speaker 11: kind of sacrifice, and a lot of people are expecting
Speaker 11: the end of the world. But I don't think the
Speaker 11: end of the world will come, even if we rebuild
Speaker 11: it and do the sacrifices. I think we got another
Speaker 11: few hundred years probably.
Speaker 1: I think you might be onto something there.
Speaker 4: That's the other thing too, I don't believe that the
Speaker 4: rebuilding of the Temple means like the next day is
Speaker 4: when the Antichrist will walk in and do his thing.
Speaker 1: It's possible. I don't see that as a guarantee.
Speaker 4: It's very possible that the temple gets rebuilt and they
Speaker 4: have the san Hadrian reform and like they operate it
Speaker 4: for a few centuries before the time happens. I take
Speaker 4: the rebuilding as a sign of the times, not like
Speaker 4: the sign. You know, it's one of the signs.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you on that. Spinn Animal, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 1: Sorry about the the temple.
Speaker 5: I thought that for for them to do the sacrifice,
Speaker 5: that the temple would already have to be built. And
Speaker 5: I thought that the temple is where the the Muslims
Speaker 5: hat took over and made the temple on the rock
Speaker 5: or whatever it's called.
Speaker 4: So for the sacrifice with the red heifer, and we
Speaker 4: just talked about this with Roy, so I want to
Speaker 4: say last week, as a matter of fact, the ashes
Speaker 4: from that burnt to offering are used in the purification
Speaker 4: of certain things, including the site where the temple will
Speaker 4: be rebuilt. The sacrifice for atonement that is done within
Speaker 4: the temple is different.
Speaker 1: That's not the red heifer sacrifice. Also, I do have
Speaker 1: a question about Jesus and everything.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know how people say will always ask you, well,
Speaker 5: what when they want to be condescending or whatever the
Speaker 5: uppitty snooty bitches that people.
Speaker 1: When I say that, I mean people, they what would
Speaker 1: Jesus do? They looked at me.
Speaker 5: They look at me, not having an assho when I said, well,
Speaker 5: he has been known to fashion a whip and drive
Speaker 5: motherfuckers out of a building before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're like, Jesus was a hippie. But Jesus
Speaker 1: wasn't a hippie. No, he certainly wasn't that.
Speaker 4: He lived a lifestyle kind of nomadically, and so people
Speaker 4: think he might have been hippie esque.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you say what would Jesus do?
Speaker 4: People forget that brandishing a bull whip and beating the
Speaker 4: fuck out of people and tearing shit up is like
Speaker 4: not out of the realm of possibility of what would
Speaker 4: Jesus do?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 4: Granted time and place, that was because the money changers
Speaker 4: were turning a prophet inside of the temple for the offerings,
Speaker 4: so he literally got so mad that they turned the
Speaker 4: temple into a den of thieves. His words, not mine. So,
Speaker 4: like time and Place, situation dictates. But there is a
Speaker 4: greater than zero percent possibility of it, for sure.
Speaker 17: So and then when y'all were talking about the virgin
Speaker 17: murder Mary and everything. Though I believe she was a
Speaker 17: virgin at Jesus' birth, I believe she ended up having
Speaker 17: children and everything.
Speaker 5: I put down there, I don't know if there's gonna
Speaker 5: be basting. I think this is gonna be basting. And
Speaker 5: I fucked people up over my mama. I don't want
Speaker 5: to know what Jesus would do over his mama, and
Speaker 5: that that that's a scary thing to talk about.
Speaker 1: A man's mama. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of stories about her and how
Speaker 4: she actually was raped by a Roman soldier or something,
Speaker 4: and that's who Jesus true father was.
Speaker 1: And there's it depends on which sorcer read. I tote
Speaker 1: said that they're getting fucked with a cactus down and hell.
Speaker 4: Right now, believe it or not, Mohammed said that, and uh,
Speaker 4: as it turns out, even in his own book, he
Speaker 4: got railed out by ten big old you know, big
Speaker 4: dark guys with huge dicks.
Speaker 1: So you might be honest.
Speaker 5: I mean, he he said homoset he told them to
Speaker 5: kill off all the homodes and everything.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he like getting his h prostate massaged by
Speaker 1: big old.
Speaker 4: Men, and then married a six year old but waited
Speaker 4: until she was nine to consummate the marriage because he
Speaker 4: was a gentleman like that.
Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm sorry, you fucking what, bro.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna call so, y'all won't get the flat, but
Speaker 5: I'll take all the flat and all the bullshit. Hey,
Speaker 5: he's a fucking pedophile and he's in the hall, oh
Speaker 5: for sure, for sure. And if that is a I'll say, now,
Speaker 5: if that is a bassma or whatever it may, I
Speaker 5: be struck down. Now.
Speaker 1: No, I'm still alive, So fuck that bitch. I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna be fine on that one. Brother, But uh, Jess,
Speaker 1: I see your hand, raise what you got.
Speaker 5: I's just gonna say it's off topic.
Speaker 1: But every time he says, Jesus is so cute.
Speaker 14: Jesus.
Speaker 1: James, power and Blood of Jesus. Yes, indeed, I love it,
Speaker 1: that's Sam.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the power of Christ compels you. All Right, let's
Speaker 4: get back to the chat. We almost caught up and
Speaker 4: then we lost it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tony said, I trust Edward Snowden, and he said
Speaker 3: that he could not find any records of aliens or chemtrails.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that proves that aliens and Kem
Speaker 3: trails don't exist though, just because he couldn't find them.
Speaker 4: But I'd say Kim trails have been verified, not even
Speaker 4: just by conspiracy theorist, but like there's even legislation passed
Speaker 4: where certain places can't do Kim trails or kim spraying. Now,
Speaker 4: so like that's that's understood. And couldn't find any records
Speaker 4: of aliens. I mean, do we know if he looked
Speaker 4: he was trying to blow the lid off of the
Speaker 4: NSA spying on us. I don't know if he also
Speaker 4: dabbled in aliens being real or not.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but God his love said gh world's
Speaker 3: biggest heroin salesman Bush hence Poppy.
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, that was HW's dad, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he was the head of the CIA at
Speaker 4: one point, and the CIA had to start We talked
Speaker 4: to about that once upon a time they stopped getting
Speaker 4: funding from the executive branch. They had to start making
Speaker 4: their dollars to fund their you know, extracurricular activities in
Speaker 4: some way, so they started selling drugs. That goes back
Speaker 4: to the Vietnam War actually, so yeah, ohw he was
Speaker 4: absolutely big with the the H sales.
Speaker 1: If you not HW what I said, hw gh, which
Speaker 1: was HW's dad.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, George W. Bush was the one in
Speaker 4: two thousand and one. George hw was the one under Reagan.
Speaker 4: So what I said was correct.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm I'm I'm all right, I'm terrible with GH.
Speaker 4: Yeah, George Herman Walker Bush. Yeah, I'm with you, Herbert,
Speaker 4: isn't it Herbert? Excuse me, excuse me?
Speaker 3: Said, they laugh in our face, just like him being
Speaker 3: put in charge of the Miami cocaine problem under Reagan.
Speaker 3: The problem only got worse, only got four times worse.
Speaker 3: Of course, you put a drug trafficker Bush working for
Speaker 3: the world's biggest drug smugglers CIA, in charge of the
Speaker 3: drug smuggling problem.
Speaker 1: They laugh in our faces.
Speaker 3: Great drugs right there, baby, agreed on all fronts, also said,
Speaker 3: according to Bledsoe, the hidden one is raw.
Speaker 4: Which we can do a conversation on if that's demonically
Speaker 4: based or not.
Speaker 5: Too.
Speaker 3: But yep, yep, Rose Chaos said, I too, am a Christian,
Speaker 3: and I don't believe in all the bullshit about everything
Speaker 3: bad as a demon or demonic.
Speaker 1: I think that there are some of it that clearly is.
Speaker 4: But I also feel like every single pagan deity that's
Speaker 4: out there is clearly a demon. It's like you just
Speaker 4: you just cut out the legs of hundreds, if not
Speaker 4: thousands of years of culture in that one statement.
Speaker 1: Maybe, but I'm just not fully convinced as of this time.
Speaker 3: Said, speaking of demons, I sent y'all a PM earlier
Speaker 3: today about one of my encounters with one. I will
Speaker 3: check that out, okay, all right, Rosqueo said, then I'm
Speaker 3: super gay. I eat oysters straight out the can.
Speaker 1: Rose Aphie. Don't trust girls because girls suck dick, and
Speaker 1: that's gay, right, I know that.
Speaker 4: Midnight cong said, Raccoon is good if prepared right, correct, correct,
Speaker 4: It's greasy. I've said it before and i'll say it again.
Speaker 4: You gotta grill that ship first to get all the
Speaker 4: oils out, then bake it that's the best way, or
Speaker 4: deep fried afterwards. That's also pretty good.
Speaker 3: Spirit Animal said, I'd eat a platypus.
Speaker 4: I'm curious what they taste like, but also i'd feel
Speaker 4: weird about killing one because they're such a cool animal.
Speaker 4: It's like a graft. I want to kill and eat
Speaker 4: a g raft one day. But I also think they're
Speaker 4: too cool to fuck with, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I want to. I want to go out
Speaker 1: and uh hunt a black bear. I'm gonna put my
Speaker 1: name in the lottery for this snupcoming lottery. I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to eat it, and I want the pelt.
Speaker 5: I want to turn it into a bug because I
Speaker 5: want to eventually build me my only little hobbit hole
Speaker 5: with a fireplace. And I want to push that bitch
Speaker 5: out because I think it'd be all romantic that to
Speaker 5: have wine by the fire on a bear rug that
Speaker 5: I sleep.
Speaker 1: I'll say this black.
Speaker 4: Bear meat is delicious. Bear meat in general is delicious.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm putting my name in for the lottery
Speaker 4: in Louisiana as well. But I'm gonna make a cape
Speaker 4: out of mine.
Speaker 1: So I feel that I got told that to. You
Speaker 1: want to marinate it in buttermilk? What do you think?
Speaker 4: I believe that I have a feeling it'd be very
Speaker 4: gamey tasting, which like that's the same thing we do
Speaker 4: to cure deer meat. We soak it a buttermilk for
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 5: I've got any tips for gator hunting, because I'm gonna
Speaker 5: put my name in the lottie for that. I only
Speaker 5: have my twenty two long rafe I to sell my
Speaker 5: I I lost my other guns bills came up.
Speaker 4: Twenty two ain't gonna cut it on this one, big homie.
Speaker 4: I'll say this, Yeah, no for the gator. Twenty two
Speaker 4: is not gonna cut it for this homie. I will
Speaker 4: say what you've seen on TV with swamp people is
Speaker 4: very dramatized.
Speaker 1: That old thing where they pull the string up and
Speaker 1: they okay, well, all right.
Speaker 4: When you go gator hunting, you need to use essentially
Speaker 4: a trot line for words. Already set those up all
Speaker 4: the time so you understand. But you're gonna use much, much,
Speaker 4: much bigger hooks.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: You need to use rotten meat. Beef smelt works the best,
Speaker 4: the stinkier and the more rotten the better. They love
Speaker 4: that shit. And when you pull them up, you're not
Speaker 4: It's not gonna be no big fight on TV. You
Speaker 4: see these people are oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they just rise up like what the fuck you want?
Speaker 1: Pretty much when that happens. Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 4: Now, you're also if you're gonna use a tag and
Speaker 4: you win the lottery, you're not gonna want to waste
Speaker 4: it on something that's like under six foot just gonna
Speaker 4: give you that just for the amount of meat and
Speaker 4: the amount of skin you'll get off of it. The
Speaker 4: juice ain't worth the squeeze. But I mean, you can't
Speaker 4: always predict what you'll catch.
Speaker 1: On the hook, so my first one.
Speaker 5: So whatever it is, I already plan on game and
Speaker 5: the head mounted, and I'm gonna I don't care how
Speaker 5: big it is. That thing's gonna either become a coffee table,
Speaker 5: what's gonna become a thing for the studio when I
Speaker 5: build it?
Speaker 4: Fair enough, that being said, also study up on the
Speaker 4: anatomy of the gator's skull that shits like damn near
Speaker 4: as hard to steal. There's about a quarter sized spot
Speaker 4: that is the soft spot where you need to shoot.
Speaker 1: And that's all I was gonna say. Get you some.
Speaker 4: It doesn't need to be like a fucking fifty color
Speaker 4: even a thirty odd six. It doesn't need to be
Speaker 4: anything like that. Twenty two, forty five, seventy should do.
Speaker 4: But I mean it's it's you don't wanna You just
Speaker 4: want to penetrate. You're not trying to blast a fucking
Speaker 4: beer can sized hole in the bitch, all right. When
Speaker 4: you pull him up the head's gonna come up. You
Speaker 4: put the barrel right on it, Caya, and you got him.
Speaker 4: Another tip, do not let him sink back in the water,
Speaker 4: because once he extales and that whole lungs fill up
Speaker 4: with water, he gets like twice as heavy a pull
Speaker 4: into your boat when you shoot him, fucking haul him up.
Speaker 1: For your knowledge, my brother. Okay, not that I would know,
Speaker 1: because I've never gone gator hunting, and we do not
Speaker 1: outlaw in my neck of the bayou. Obviously. It's so
Speaker 1: damn good, though it is.
Speaker 3: Zombie posted an article from another one from Live or
Speaker 3: Life Science that says first ever pig to human lung
Speaker 3: transplant attempted in brain dead person in China.
Speaker 4: You know, they say that pig flesh and human flesh
Speaker 4: are the closest related in the animal kingdom, So I
Speaker 4: could imagine a world where that works. Like hell, they've
Speaker 4: already done with pig hearts and pig valves and stuff
Speaker 4: into the hearts. So a lung transfer That's not the
Speaker 4: craziest thing I've ever heard, But damn all right, seems fun.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be doing the things, yo kid said. Good night,
Speaker 4: Colt fantasy you next week. God is love said, Johnny
Speaker 4: Depp really knows how to channel those demonic spirits. Yeah,
Speaker 4: on depth is on another level on a lot of things,
Speaker 4: And I honestly think I blame Amber Heard for a
Speaker 4: lot of it.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he wasn't about that before her.
Speaker 1: I'm saying she made it exponentially worse. Oh yeah, what
Speaker 1: did she say? She shut in his bed and then
Speaker 1: send him a picture of it to be a bitch.
Speaker 3: It was like pint sized glasses or super pint or
Speaker 3: a mega pint or some shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of wine, mega pint, a mega pint of wine
Speaker 4: every night. And He's like, I've never heard of mega pint,
Speaker 4: I know of a bottle, line know of a glass.
Speaker 1: But okay, that was probably the most entertaining thing in
Speaker 1: court I've ever seen. And at that moment I felt
Speaker 1: bad for him.
Speaker 4: You know, he might be a weirdo and a psycho
Speaker 4: and all these things, but like, yo, you bring this
Speaker 4: woman into your home, you're trying to have a life
Speaker 4: with her, and then she runs you through the mud
Speaker 4: and shit's in your fucking bed.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's nice to what level? Where is the line?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: I can't help but think that he pushed her to
Speaker 1: that a little bit.
Speaker 4: Though there's reports of people that she dated before Johnny
Speaker 4: that all will testify and say that she is a
Speaker 4: batshit crazy. I think that she wasn't when she got
Speaker 4: into Hollywood, but I think the fame and the fortune
Speaker 4: and her being just oh so hot and so sought
Speaker 4: after gave her a fucking weird god complex in and
Speaker 4: of herself. And I think she got a little too
Speaker 4: high on her own fumes personally.
Speaker 3: Dude, it is like the extra hot ones are willing
Speaker 3: to go that extra mile, dude, not all of.
Speaker 1: Them, but good god, when they do, it's a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 3: Well let's let's let's ask fucking pimp Daddy himself, what
Speaker 3: is your experience with the extra hot ones there spirit animals?
Speaker 1: Since you're such a stud he is, indeed, I mean
Speaker 1: when the hot a lot of times are gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: You know what they say. If they have them grippy
Speaker 1: sobs are gonna have the grippy box.
Speaker 5: Got it. You have to deal with the insanity with
Speaker 5: the hotness. Seek it's a chart, my dog.
Speaker 1: Keep you a straight face, bro. I fucking right.
Speaker 18: When they got the grippy socks, they got the grippy box,
Speaker 18: Samuel Sam, I'm not saying you're wrong, but god, damn boy,
Speaker 18: how did they find the best snatch dog?
Speaker 1: Is that what I'm here? I just don't understand how
Speaker 1: the two even correlate.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, she has a body pillow. You know
Speaker 1: what that means?
Speaker 4: No, I mean the crazy ones are the best in bed.
Speaker 4: I think that's actually a certified truth across the board.
Speaker 1: I've never heard it to that level. But all right, dope, dude,
Speaker 1: my ask.
Speaker 5: Golf from high school. Fucking performatters she went to. She
Speaker 5: had got and committed in everything. You fucking try to
Speaker 5: hit his issue with an axe or whatever, don't know,
Speaker 5: don't care.
Speaker 1: She is when he cool last be still what he
Speaker 1: good finds.
Speaker 5: But yeah, one of those ye yeah, her dad they
Speaker 5: used to run lumber as a family and everything, so
Speaker 5: with access, she actually, uh does the axloing competition.
Speaker 1: Sh it scary.
Speaker 9: Wait.
Speaker 3: A second Nick Cage named his son kl L.
Speaker 1: Is that for real? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? He has like
Speaker 1: a full on metal head kid too, Like it's it's
Speaker 1: crazy named. Is it? That's fucking Superman? Isn't it? Isn't
Speaker 1: that Kal which actually is also a Hebrew name.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, oh, well, is I actually have a question
Speaker 5: Papa loves not trying to thought? Did did you know
Speaker 5: that there was the down in I want to say
Speaker 5: in oh yeah about Amber heard oh conspiracy wise, there's
Speaker 5: a good chance from.
Speaker 19: What I've read.
Speaker 5: Of course I was on it was between Reddit and
Speaker 5: uh core and all that bullshit. Apparently she was in
Speaker 5: relationship with Elon before she was with Johnny and the
Speaker 5: kid that she has actually Elon, she like, wo feed
Speaker 5: him and stole his baby batter, I believe it, and
Speaker 5: like he didn't want the kid. He's he didn't want
Speaker 5: the kid, he has nothing to do with it. And
Speaker 5: she's like, why did you state with this kid? Like, bitch,
Speaker 5: you raked him.
Speaker 4: You know, knowing that she's that batshit crazy and also
Speaker 4: that he's that rich. Yeah, I can imagine a world
Speaker 4: where that's an accurate statement.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 5: I have been a whore in my past, but I
Speaker 5: would not touch that bitch with a ten foot pole.
Speaker 1: Fuck that. Yeah, come on, animal does not know you,
Speaker 1: Stay away from that. I feel the same way about
Speaker 1: Megan Fox.
Speaker 4: At one point I thought she was so fucking hot,
Speaker 4: and then when I found out that her and MGK
Speaker 4: are doing blood rituals and she's like, only four ritual
Speaker 4: purposes though, and it's like, that's how you fucking detracted
Speaker 4: from what you just said is to acknowledge openly that
Speaker 4: it was only for ritualistic purposes.
Speaker 1: The fuck bitch. I mean they could just be drinking,
Speaker 1: you know, grape juice and eating crackers.
Speaker 4: Oh, they use knives and cut each other for their blood.
Speaker 4: That's that's their own admission. I might add, Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: that's going the extra mile, but only Jonathan, don't freak out.
Speaker 4: Don't freak out. It's only for ritual purposes. And it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: you're assumed, Yeah, yeah, you're fucking batshit.
Speaker 1: Well she's like proclaimed, which I think too.
Speaker 5: Oh I.
Speaker 1: Did that.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 1: They cut it, then put it in. I could bowl
Speaker 1: with like.
Speaker 5: Paper, invite sage and stuff, then light the light it.
Speaker 5: Because I can understand that I got.
Speaker 1: No idea to what level of the ritual was.
Speaker 4: I know that they've broken up now and is coming
Speaker 4: out and talking about how she's out of her fucking mind.
Speaker 4: And again, again, hot ones are typically the craziest when
Speaker 4: it gets to that level.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I think it was like a blood
Speaker 3: brothers kind of situation, wasn't it. It's like cut yourself
Speaker 3: and then handshake or something like that.
Speaker 5: And that's how it was done back in like the Nordic.
Speaker 5: So that's how they would accept each other into family.
Speaker 5: That taught you why and now he uh Peter my
Speaker 5: v and it is in the rock is that's the
Speaker 5: reason why the rock and everybody's anointed into the now
Speaker 5: he family because his uh father Rocky Jock, No, his
Speaker 5: grandfather was was blood brothers with uh the he is
Speaker 5: uh Peter my Va and uh I can't remember the
Speaker 5: other guy, but they they became blood brothers through that process.
Speaker 4: Uh their Native American tribes to do something somewhere as
Speaker 4: far as like making familial connections happen like that and
Speaker 4: ship but also yeah, but no, the uh the Megan
Speaker 4: Fox thing, she believes that she manifested him when she
Speaker 4: was four years old, because she is four years older
Speaker 4: than him. She believes that the rituals that they were
Speaker 4: doing is how they got so close in all this.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't like a familiar connection cutting of the
Speaker 4: hand thing. From from what I've been given to understand,
Speaker 4: it was absolutely dark occult magic.
Speaker 1: With it that they were trying to perform, So it's
Speaker 1: just strengthen their bond.
Speaker 3: Megan Fox and MGK have mentioned that they drink each
Speaker 3: other's blood for ritual purposes, which they described as a
Speaker 3: controlled act involving just a few drops. Fox explained that
Speaker 3: these rituals are part of their metaphysical practices, which include
Speaker 3: terror readings in astrology rather than traditional blood magic.
Speaker 4: So they're just drinking each other's blood just a little bit,
Speaker 4: only for ritual purpose.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like what real man doesn't like, what
Speaker 1: real man doesn't have their red wings? Though, all right,
Speaker 1: some guys are grossed out by that. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't understand, But that's not Also, if you're if
Speaker 4: you're eating box for a ritualistic purpose on her period,
Speaker 4: for that purpose, like for ritual purposes, and like yeah,
Speaker 4: you're you're probably out there in the list with the
Speaker 4: crazies on the top.
Speaker 1: Level, you know.
Speaker 3: So what's so they say, though, is that like the
Speaker 3: strongest form of magic is actually sex magic, so or
Speaker 3: one of the strongest. I don't if it's the strongest,
Speaker 3: but one of the strongest is is that like you
Speaker 3: just picture whatever you're trying to manifest or whatever in
Speaker 3: your life at the moment that you're about to orgasm,
Speaker 3: like you could be in the middle of having the
Speaker 3: craziest best X of your life or whatever, and then
Speaker 3: you're like, I really want that Ferrari and then like
Speaker 3: you think about that.
Speaker 4: Ferrari, eh, and there it is. So that's that say
Speaker 4: it works that way. I don't know that was developed
Speaker 4: by Crowley. And like our boy God is Love said earlier,
Speaker 4: if Crowley had his hands on it, just as a
Speaker 4: general rule of thumb, thou shalt not fuck with it.
Speaker 3: Well, you better get away from everybody practicing yoga. Better
Speaker 3: get away from that then, because Crowley was the one
Speaker 3: that brought yoga over here, he's not the one that
Speaker 3: developed it. No, he brought it over here, though, he
Speaker 3: brought it over here. But the Vedics are doing that
Speaker 3: for a very long time. But to your point, also necessarily,
Speaker 3: yoga over there is way different than yoga over here.
Speaker 3: This is yoga has nothing to do with stretches like
Speaker 3: like that. It's not just about stretching out. It's it's
Speaker 3: yoga literally, the at least the way the gurus explained it.
Speaker 3: It's just like like a body meditation or some shit
Speaker 3: like It's it's more so to put you into a
Speaker 3: meditative state.
Speaker 1: I mean it is.
Speaker 4: Supposed to be used for meditation, for sure, but also
Speaker 4: there stretches involved.
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, Gandhi was big with that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's more about your specific postures to get
Speaker 4: in while you're meditating.
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure.
Speaker 4: But yeah, to your point, yes, if Crowley was fucking
Speaker 4: with it, I just as a general rule of thumb,
Speaker 4: I think that we should probably just kind of slowly step.
Speaker 1: Away from it and do as thou wilt. That's my point.
Speaker 1: That's not a good thing.
Speaker 3: Um Spirit Animals said, either I'm bringing my mullet back
Speaker 3: or I'm gonna go grunge.
Speaker 4: Do the mullet for sure, Dude, bring back them mud flaps.
Speaker 4: Fuck yeah, bring back the mud flaps and a fanny pack.
Speaker 4: You'll have to actually start beating them off you with
Speaker 4: a stick. Dirty Sanchez said, I'm so mad I could spit.
Speaker 4: I got locked out of the house, had to pay
Speaker 4: almost two hundred bucks to get broken into legally, and
Speaker 4: worst of all, missed an out of the show. I
Speaker 4: was waiting for the link for thirty minutes last night
Speaker 4: and realized it was Monday, good fucking evening.
Speaker 1: Boys and girls. Damn, we are that far behind. Yes,
Speaker 1: holy shit, wait, why aren't you just break into your
Speaker 1: It was your house or your car? It's my house.
Speaker 19: The WRX is in the shop again, front end got
Speaker 19: ripped off.
Speaker 9: Oh my god.
Speaker 12: So we accidentally left the keys in the house and
Speaker 12: the garage openers in my WRX and the pin on
Speaker 12: the garage door.
Speaker 1: Does it work now? So it was it was fucking fine.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thinking on it myself, I would break my
Speaker 4: own window, but it would probably be better to call
Speaker 4: a lock smith in.
Speaker 19: New Orleans now, so I didn't want to have a
Speaker 19: broken winded I live way out in the country, so
Speaker 19: it's not likely somebody will break in, but if they do,
Speaker 19: it's also not likely somebody's.
Speaker 4: Gonna Oh are you planning on going to Mardi All
Speaker 4: this year? Yes, all right, if you are there for Dogan.
Speaker 19: We're gonna bring the kids this year too.
Speaker 12: Just we're gonna get hotels right on the strip.
Speaker 4: If you go to the Excalibur parade, I'm going to
Speaker 4: be riding on one of the floats that's gonna be
Speaker 4: on the Friday before the.
Speaker 1: Mardi Graul, like the beginning of the weekend of the debauchery.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on one of the floats, so it'll
Speaker 1: be fun right on. Hell yeah, Well I'm expecting the
Speaker 1: biggest of beads. I'm gonna call your.
Speaker 9: Name and.
Speaker 1: Got them always just the giant dick beads.
Speaker 4: No, although it's in Spanish Town, dude, that's that's what
Speaker 4: they throw there. It's that used to be the gay parade,
Speaker 4: like as far as Marti gral goes, that was the
Speaker 4: gay Pride Mardi Gras parade. Now it is shifting gears
Speaker 4: a bit and people are bringing their whole families out
Speaker 4: there and stuff. It's it's definitely tame down from.
Speaker 1: All this town.
Speaker 4: It's a good one, I think it is now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: But like growing up early nineties, mid nineties, that was
Speaker 4: like the thing. Pink Flamingos are a big Spanish Town thing.
Speaker 4: It's a neighborhood of Baton Rouge just anybody who doesn't know,
Speaker 4: and it was understood that if you have a pink
Speaker 4: flamingo in your yard, then you're like openly gay and
Speaker 4: probably about the swinger life with the gay community. So
Speaker 4: the Spanish Town parade, Like, yeah, you had dudes throwing
Speaker 4: giant dick like suckers out and dildo's and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: That has calmed down a lot now it's like one
Speaker 1: of the better parades.
Speaker 6: To go to.
Speaker 1: Technically all dicks are suckers though, weren't they I suppose.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're into that kind of thing, sure.
Speaker 3: Uh to be alive said, there's a lot of hoax
Speaker 3: active shooter calls recently at a lot of universities. One
Speaker 3: happened yesterday here locally at the University of Arkansas. Seems weird.
Speaker 3: To be honest, I'm getting boy who cried Wolf vives
Speaker 3: from it.
Speaker 1: I believe it. I absolutely believe it.
Speaker 4: I don't understand what the point of that would be though,
Speaker 4: Like it's to cause mass hysterian shit than okay, But
Speaker 4: if it's all fake and like they get there and
Speaker 4: nobody's freaking out, nobody's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Some people just want to be famous.
Speaker 4: I think, I guess, yeah, you're gonna get famous from
Speaker 4: a prank call about a mass shooting. I hear you,
Speaker 4: and I agree that it's probably somebody who's like trying
Speaker 4: to get their fame. But like dude, you might get
Speaker 4: your mug shot in the evening local news and that's
Speaker 4: about it. If that's the limits of the fame you're
Speaker 4: trying to go for, there's other ways, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, let's see a spirit animal, said a Muslim
Speaker 3: leader versus a Christian.
Speaker 1: In a debate.
Speaker 3: The Muslim said, if said if that whoever is speaking false,
Speaker 3: may the gi mute he in this?
Speaker 1: Okay, Sam, I can't read that shit, dude.
Speaker 5: He said, whoever speaking false witness and everything, may God
Speaker 5: strike him mute. And in that same debate, the Muslim
Speaker 5: guy was struck mute for seven years, cannot speak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you'll have that. That'd be fun.
Speaker 5: Um.
Speaker 3: Dirty Sanchez said. Every time y'all say pagan, I'm hearing
Speaker 3: pagan Like, I mean, hey.
Speaker 4: Whatever floats your boat, you know if I'm not talking
Speaker 4: about like pagans like you boys getting rail with a
Speaker 4: strap one, but I mean whatever you gotta do to
Speaker 4: get there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I guess I technically would be considered somewhat of a
Speaker 3: pagan at that point, right, you're.
Speaker 4: Into pegging, dude, No, a pagan. I thought that we're
Speaker 4: talking about getting pegged. And then you said you're kind
Speaker 4: of a pagan. At that point, I'm like, wait, whoa whata?
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not even in I'm not really a
Speaker 3: fan of butt stuff in general all around.
Speaker 1: I didn't think you were. That's why when you said this,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, now, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: I prefer the front box personally, and preferably one where
Speaker 3: they're wearing grippy socks.
Speaker 1: You know, that needs to be a cult to conspiracy shirt.
Speaker 4: There are so many quotes that we could have turned
Speaker 4: into T shirts by now, but we don't have a
Speaker 4: decent T shirt distributor.
Speaker 1: We're still on the search for one brand.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna forget that one, brother, I promise you,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start using that more in my day to
Speaker 4: day vernacular.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm stilling like a biblical whoy.
Speaker 5: I haven't smoked since last Live I was trying to
Speaker 5: save the lead and I'm.
Speaker 1: A week off. It feels nice. Yeahs like a biblical whore.
Speaker 1: Yet again, another excellent quote, Sam, eyes.
Speaker 3: Are a lot more squinty right now than they were
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the episode.
Speaker 4: You truly are just the cult of conspiracy spirit animal.
Speaker 4: Like there's nobody that embodies it better.
Speaker 1: Dude, there used to be.
Speaker 3: There used to be a time like whenever we first started.
Speaker 3: I think for maybe the first year that we were
Speaker 3: doing this show, I used to think, oh, man, I'm
Speaker 3: way better at talking on the mic because I used
Speaker 3: to be you know, a little I don't know, a
Speaker 3: little weird in front of the microphone, just getting comfortable
Speaker 3: with it at first. And so I used to think, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna smoke before I go on the show. That way,
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a loose and and it worked
Speaker 3: well a few times, but then there was a couple
Speaker 3: of times where I got like way too high and
Speaker 3: I was like scared to even look at the microphone,
Speaker 3: and just ever since then, I can't smoke before show.
Speaker 1: I gotta wait until after. I was the same with drinking.
Speaker 4: I used to like drink while I shot, and I
Speaker 4: thought it would you know, made me a little looser,
Speaker 4: you know, open up the mind to some things.
Speaker 1: It didn't. It did not benefit me at all. No,
Speaker 1: you need a clear head for this kind of shit,
Speaker 1: you know, Like that way in the topics we talk about,
Speaker 1: holy fuck, Oh.
Speaker 3: Dude, that way you'd be able to, you know, spit
Speaker 3: it out and read and think clearly and all the
Speaker 3: other things like if you're stoned or drunk or whatever,
Speaker 3: like Sam, I honestly you were. I don't know when
Speaker 3: you were sober or when you're stone. You're just the
Speaker 3: same all around usually, so some people are like.
Speaker 5: That when I'm When I'm so it's pretty much my
Speaker 5: personality stays the same. It's just when I'm stone, everything
Speaker 5: comes in lot slower, it comes in more naturally.
Speaker 1: I'm not my mind isn't vicing.
Speaker 5: I'm not as anxiety all because I'm not taking any
Speaker 5: of the anxiety medicine or anything like that. I told
Speaker 5: them stuff, I ain't taking it. But yeah, when I'm smoked,
Speaker 5: I'm okay. It's like everything comes in. I sew down
Speaker 5: my I get more busa.
Speaker 1: But it's.
Speaker 5: When I only time I'm I get I was on
Speaker 5: a Midwest mythos last night and I was you could
Speaker 5: tell in my voice I was nervous, like I was
Speaker 5: drummler up my words and everything. And I think I
Speaker 5: realized it's because I a new people and the only
Speaker 5: time I feel natural and comfortable like speaking is when
Speaker 5: I'm with the cult.
Speaker 1: Because I know no one's gonna judge me and everything.
Speaker 5: And even if they do, I know that y'all, my
Speaker 5: boys and everybody here is my people, and I love y'all.
Speaker 1: I know y'all are not gonna make fun of me.
Speaker 1: Y'all laugh with me, not at me. For sure, we
Speaker 1: make fun of you in front of you though, Yeah
Speaker 1: that you know. Yeah, And I know that y'all. Y'all
Speaker 1: are not doing it with ill, with ill content.
Speaker 5: Y'all say the fucked up ship in front of me,
Speaker 5: then it's nice by when I'm not here, You know
Speaker 5: what I mean, no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 1: It's just us giving and taking the piss, you know,
Speaker 1: giving each other ship as it were.
Speaker 5: But yeah, said I uh Jake Jonathan, I'm thinking about
Speaker 5: giving you my dragon, and it has a crystal skull.
Speaker 3: WHOA, that's quite a bong, So I will accept that
Speaker 3: as a token of your honor, sir.
Speaker 5: It was a two hundred dollars bon, but I I
Speaker 5: had the thing. I had like a seventy five percent off.
Speaker 5: It was a Veteran's Day and everything that and I
Speaker 5: had a coupon, so that's how I got save five
Speaker 5: percent off.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I'd be down let's get weird.
Speaker 3: Although I'm such a lightweight dude, like one bong rip,
Speaker 3: I am fucking done for probably the next twelve hours.
Speaker 5: On this uh this bowl, I can hold a two
Speaker 5: and a half grounds. I filled this the skull up three.
Speaker 5: I want to say three times this live and it
Speaker 5: blew my fucking lungs out.
Speaker 1: How am I gonna hide? How am I going to
Speaker 1: hide that from my kids? Though that thing is huge?
Speaker 1: Just a little flowers in it and say it's a
Speaker 1: it's a really fancy flower face. Isn't that the old way?
Speaker 5: Wait? I don't know if my dad always let my
Speaker 5: dad always told me what things were orno he said
Speaker 5: he'd always say, I'd rather you know what it is
Speaker 5: and be open with me about it, then hide that ship.
Speaker 1: So that's just how I am. I keep myself out
Speaker 1: and open. Uh fair noise. MICHAELA said.
Speaker 3: If there is any evidence of Jesus writing something, I
Speaker 3: bet the Vatican has it, probably probably or somebody.
Speaker 4: Although I'm not like the best expert there is on
Speaker 4: the topic, but to my knowledge, there's no there's nothing
Speaker 4: uh we still have of Jesus' actual handwriting or something.
Speaker 4: Maybe something exists and it's just not common knowledge.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's it.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing though, it's like, how is it
Speaker 3: the most famous man allegedly in history, right, and there's
Speaker 3: not a single document with his writing. There's not a
Speaker 3: single like maybe somebody kept his sandals or his his shirt,
Speaker 3: or maybe a pillow that he slept.
Speaker 1: On, or we have the shroud of Turin.
Speaker 3: But not even everybody agrees that that's a real thing,
Speaker 3: which is mind blowing to even popes don't agree that
Speaker 3: it's a real thing.
Speaker 4: Again, mind blowing to me. Pope Leo's about that life.
Speaker 4: Pope Francis was the only one that was like really
Speaker 4: going against it. Most popes, most have been like very
Speaker 4: much in the belief of what that thing is. But
Speaker 4: then there's also fragments of like the true cross allegedly.
Speaker 4: I don't I'm not saying that I believe that they
Speaker 4: kept shards of the cross that he was crucified on,
Speaker 4: but there's depending on which medieval socier reading, there are
Speaker 4: something that believed.
Speaker 13: That they had it.
Speaker 4: On the Spirit of Destiny too, allegedly, Yeah, but the
Speaker 4: spear of Destiny and what's his name, saint not legless
Speaker 4: something saint something with an l that sounds super Roman.
Speaker 1: That whole thing came. That's the one that.
Speaker 4: Came around hundreds of years after the fact when that
Speaker 4: story even first sprung up. If that was an actual
Speaker 4: religious relic or holy artifact or something, you think that
Speaker 4: it would have been super pertinent at the moment.
Speaker 5: Napoleon had it. So did an old filed painter Adolph.
Speaker 5: He had it, and I believe he had it all
Speaker 5: the way up through the wall until he lost his
Speaker 5: bad around the time that shit.
Speaker 1: Hit the fan and they that's when they started losing.
Speaker 1: I believe he didn't lose it. He probably would have
Speaker 1: worn whatever the thing. Did they really have it or
Speaker 1: did they just say they have it?
Speaker 4: Very similar to Baldwin the Second of Jerusalem having the
Speaker 4: true Cross and that's what led to his defeat of
Speaker 4: Saladin at the Big Or is it because he just
Speaker 4: was really good at defeating Salady?
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: Check this though, though, You know, if you're gonna use
Speaker 3: the whole spear of destiny not being found until hundreds
Speaker 3: of years after, then you got to do the same
Speaker 3: thing for the shroud because and I just I couldn't
Speaker 3: remember what year they founded or what year they proclaimed
Speaker 3: to have it or whatever. So I just looked it
Speaker 3: up and it says the shroud of Turn was first
Speaker 3: documented in thirteen fifty four.
Speaker 11: Bro.
Speaker 4: We talked about that on the Shroud of Turin episode.
Speaker 4: Though the chain of custody checks out it was first
Speaker 4: documents at that time, but they did have it at
Speaker 4: the Church of Antioch.
Speaker 1: In eighty a d.
Speaker 4: I mean first documented though, but to say that it
Speaker 4: was the absolute death shroud of Jesus that first was
Speaker 4: said during that time frame, but it was talked about
Speaker 4: when it was still in Constantinople, right, and then it
Speaker 4: was talked about when it was at Antioch. Like there's
Speaker 4: a true chain of custody that goes all the way around,
Speaker 4: but they may not have used the correct term. And
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. The whole thing about it being
Speaker 4: fa or a forgery, the if that is even possible,
Speaker 4: Like you realize this is there's no way, there's no
Speaker 4: possible way, not even like oh uh uh, you know
Speaker 4: there's a one a million chance.
Speaker 1: No, dude, not even that much of a chance.
Speaker 4: They got the pollen right, the bloodstains right, the markings
Speaker 4: from his scorked body, the fucking actual linen that was used,
Speaker 4: the pattern that was used, the three to one uh
Speaker 4: hero and bone pattern, like the whole nine. This would
Speaker 4: have been such an extreme level of forgery to be
Speaker 4: taken to make sure that it's never discovered that it like,
Speaker 4: they would have had to have been able to predict
Speaker 4: the future to get this forgery right to this level.
Speaker 3: But it makes me wonder why certain like church officials
Speaker 3: would declare it not genuine.
Speaker 4: Because it gives the uh, the bearer of it more credibility. Right,
Speaker 4: It's more of like a oh yeah, well I have
Speaker 4: this religious relic from this saint. Oh yeah, I got
Speaker 4: the actual death shroud of Jesus. My denominations more correct,
Speaker 4: thank you. It's like it's pettiness, it's human ego.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on it? God is love? You
Speaker 1: ever looked in the shout of Turn?
Speaker 9: Well that, yeah, I've seen a lot of stuff on it.
Speaker 9: And that last Tucker Carlson interview a couple of weeks
Speaker 9: back was really good about it. He talked about, you know,
Speaker 9: every aspect, including the lineage, because that's one thing i'd
Speaker 9: heard something similar to that. It just popped up. But
Speaker 9: he went all the way back and like Jacob just said,
Speaker 9: he went through all the different things you would have
Speaker 9: to do, different types of blood, like you know, blood
Speaker 9: with the water I don't know, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 9: and a lot of you know, in addition to the
Speaker 9: things that are not even replicable today with our modern technology.
Speaker 9: But also as far as jesus writings, I mean, writing
Speaker 9: materials and whatnot were a rarer and more expensive back then.
Speaker 4: The case, It's very true even having paper with writing
Speaker 4: materials like that was expensive as hell. But I mean
Speaker 4: even still, you had Matthew that was documenting things as
Speaker 4: he was walking with Jesus, and you had James that
Speaker 4: was writing things after his death and all these things.
Speaker 4: But like Jesus is not such an important figure because
Speaker 4: of his writings. He is important because of his works
Speaker 4: and what he did. In the fact that there were
Speaker 4: so many eyewitness accounts to testify for what he did.
Speaker 1: I just saw something today.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, these people that are saying that, like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: nothing was written about him until after he died, so
Speaker 4: how can we believe any of it? Just a quick
Speaker 4: question for everybody. Alexander the Great, does anybody know when
Speaker 4: the first historical account of his life was actually written down,
Speaker 4: not just legends and lore, but like actual documentation on it.
Speaker 4: Take it, take a wild guess. I wouldn't even know
Speaker 4: where to guess, all right, Oh you know it. Just
Speaker 4: so I'm not speaking out a term here, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: look up when did he live?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: So, Alexander the Great lived from three point fifty six
Speaker 4: BC to three twenty three BC. Okay, So tell me
Speaker 4: when you think the first documentation of his life was
Speaker 4: written down.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it wasn't until like hundreds of years after that.
Speaker 4: Right, So the first biography that could be done on
Speaker 4: him in any way, shape or form was in thirty BC.
Speaker 1: Okay, So like what three hundred something years after over
Speaker 1: three hundred years after his death? Right?
Speaker 4: So, to question if Jesus really walked the earth and
Speaker 4: did the things he said he did is to literally
Speaker 4: question the majority of historical figures from.
Speaker 1: The ancient times. I wonder why, though, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Why which part Jesus or Alexander the Great?
Speaker 4: I mean both, Because everybody knew his story, nobody thought
Speaker 4: you would need to write this shit down.
Speaker 3: It almost just makes you wonder if, like you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of those stories were just very word of mouth,
Speaker 3: and they probably just probably maybe they just relied on
Speaker 3: storytelling always being a thing and you wouldn't necessarily need
Speaker 3: to write it down, so it would be misinterpreted. And
Speaker 3: that's how a lot of the ancient religious stuff was.
Speaker 4: I don't even think it maybe the misinterpreted. But like,
Speaker 4: especially when we're talking about history, right, the history of
Speaker 4: Alexander the Great. There's so many cities all around the
Speaker 4: Mediterranean that are named Alexandria, and there were all these
Speaker 4: recordings of his actions and like what happened, even by
Speaker 4: the people he conquered, but like it was more towards
Speaker 4: like the battle that took place, and it was Alexander
Speaker 4: the Great versus this guy, and like that's what Cartha.
Speaker 1: Trot, that's what this group wrote. That's what this group wrote.
Speaker 4: So like it wasn't like you didn't need to have
Speaker 4: a start to finish biography of his life. You knew
Speaker 4: what he did in the timeframe. That's like important and
Speaker 4: pertinent information to.
Speaker 1: Be passed down.
Speaker 4: Thirty BC, somebody actually thought, you know what, maybe we
Speaker 4: should commit pen to paper about this guy, you know,
Speaker 4: just to make sure his name doesn't get lost in
Speaker 4: the sands.
Speaker 1: Of time.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Jesus has four biographies written about his life from
Speaker 4: eyewitness accounts or one person removed from eyewitness accounts. The
Speaker 4: only other person from that time period, from the turn
Speaker 4: of the millennia time period to have four biographies written
Speaker 4: about them was the fucking Roman Caesar Tiberius. So like
Speaker 4: the question of Jesus walk the earth is the question
Speaker 4: if Tiberius was in charge of Rome.
Speaker 1: Ever, that's the equal like equal comparison here.
Speaker 4: It's crazy to me, spirit animal, Go ahead, sir, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was gonna.
Speaker 5: Talk about I was gonna bring up the shout of
Speaker 5: turn and then everything and how. But I was also yes,
Speaker 5: I say it was around four twenty eight about Alazander
Speaker 5: to the Great. But yeah, I'm sorry, I lost my
Speaker 5: train of thought.
Speaker 1: I dropped. I committed a sin. Ah. You all good, brother,
Speaker 1: as long as you can't burn your bowels you might
Speaker 1: need them. Well, Sam you I don't know if you
Speaker 1: need those. I don't know. I can't imagine a bunch
Speaker 1: of little Sam's running around, but just playing with you, buddy.
Speaker 3: That being said, it's about that time, Samuel. How about
Speaker 3: we get that send off, sir?
Speaker 1: Just for love you, my blessed be the Chaos. Much
Speaker 1: love for the Creek Boys, very much love Sam. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys for joining us tonight. It was awesome.
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