Speaker 1: Welcome to Buns and Banter, a podcast buy work Busties
Speaker 1: for work Busties. Hey, I'm Lauren and I'm Ali. We're
Speaker 1: both morning show hosts for iHeartMedia.
Speaker 2: We're both millennials.
Speaker 1: And we're both trying to figure out how to build
Speaker 1: the lives we dream about, dating, marriage, career, career and
Speaker 1: being a mom.
Speaker 2: How to get through a week without crying.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Buns and Banter.
Speaker 2: We're glad you're here.
Speaker 1: Okay, first of all.
Speaker 2: Wow, how many blonds does it take to put the
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Speaker 2: of my I mean, we don't really have responsibilities and
Speaker 2: duties here, yeah, but it is. It's my favorite thing
Speaker 2: to do here is put the water on the thing. Really,
Speaker 2: I didn't know you did that at least on our floor,
Speaker 2: not on this floor, you miss.
Speaker 1: We are like, I'm kind of hard breathing because we've
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Speaker 1: to realize that the spagets weren't working, so all of
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Speaker 2: I mean like I don't want the TB, but I'll
Speaker 2: take the time away.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel I just feel very out
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Speaker 1: we're talking TB, which I just feel like my lungs
Speaker 1: love inviting a good illness. And I have to tell
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Speaker 1: I do not separate colors that do not do anything
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Speaker 1: and the washing cycle will continue.
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Speaker 1: I think this belonged to an old roommate of mine
Speaker 1: to try and pull the look together.
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Speaker 1: because I'm one hundred and five years old. They're like
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Speaker 1: This is I'm excited we were able to pod because
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Speaker 2: But you're at it for some vacae, some warmer temperatures. Yes,
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Speaker 2: about leggings or long sleeves or vests or scarfs where
Speaker 2: you're going.
Speaker 1: That's true. Good for you, Thank you so much. That
Speaker 1: was absolutely planned. But I'm excited what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: today because this was all your idea and I think
Speaker 1: it was a really good one.
Speaker 2: Well, I just you know what tipped me over the
Speaker 2: edge because I've been following the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni
Speaker 2: lawsuit woo that pertains to the movie It Ends with Us,
Speaker 2: which is based off a book written by Colleen Hoover.
Speaker 2: And we talked about the book, and you have the book,
Speaker 2: but you didn't read it. I did read you did
Speaker 2: I've read the book. Yeah, okay, okay, we can get
Speaker 2: into that in a little bit. But I mean, this
Speaker 2: is just like so fascinating to me because it has
Speaker 2: been such a shit show from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: So and the beginning is it feels to me like
Speaker 1: months and months and months and months ago. And I
Speaker 1: guess when you talk the press tour, but the legal
Speaker 1: side of this is only like a few weeks old. Really,
Speaker 1: it's like mid December.
Speaker 2: And this is going to drag on for years because
Speaker 2: one of the things that they're really worried about is
Speaker 2: that this is going to a jury trial. I'll give
Speaker 2: you a background of the lawsuit here or the several
Speaker 2: lawsuits here in just a second. But one of the
Speaker 2: things that I saw today was that they're worried about
Speaker 2: all of the coverage tainting the jury pool. And I
Speaker 2: was like, I can't believe that they are going to
Speaker 2: have a jury trial for this.
Speaker 1: It's wild. And I've never heard a half gag order,
Speaker 1: which was what So they were in front of a
Speaker 1: district judge in Manhattan yesterday and at the same time,
Speaker 1: and I feel like we hear this every time there's
Speaker 1: a new piece of news. Both sides considered it a
Speaker 1: victory weird, and I just I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you could possibly sit people that have
Speaker 1: never heard about this, unless you're talking all boomers.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, my oldest sister texted me last week and
Speaker 2: she said, Okay, I have I've seen enough of this
Speaker 2: Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively, shit, now I need someone to
Speaker 2: sort through it all and explain it to me like
Speaker 2: I'm five. And I was like, okay, Well, it's it's
Speaker 2: a lot to keep up with. Yeah, it's day by
Speaker 2: day updates. So if you're not familiar, here's the background.
Speaker 2: Justin Baldoni directed and co starred with Blake Lively. This
Speaker 2: is from Forbes, so I feel like that's pretty credible.
Speaker 1: That's a credible source.
Speaker 2: I tried to look for something that wasn't like the
Speaker 2: Globe or the Post or like US Weekly or something,
Speaker 2: but Justin Baldoni directed and co starred with Blake Lively.
Speaker 2: It Ends with Us, the movie adaptation of Colleen Hoover's
Speaker 2: best selling book, which was released last August. Now disclaimer,
Speaker 2: I have not seen the movie. I don't plan to
Speaker 2: see the movie. Same I have not read the book.
Speaker 2: I don't plan to read the book.
Speaker 1: You have read the book.
Speaker 2: Rumors of a rift developing between Lively and Baldoni during
Speaker 2: post production began to emerge around the movie's release so
Speaker 2: in August, and they were further funeral during the film's
Speaker 2: press tour when Blake Lively appeared to avoid mention of
Speaker 2: him in interviews, which was like kind of glaring. Speculation
Speaker 2: emerged that there were disputes over creative control, and sources
Speaker 2: told TMC Baldoni had fat shamed her by inquiring about
Speaker 2: her weight, telling an onset trainer he wanted to avoid
Speaker 2: injury while lifting her up in the movie. Baldoni and
Speaker 2: Lively were never photographed together when they were promoting the movie,
Speaker 2: Rumors of the feud grew, and Baldoni hired Melissa Nathan,
Speaker 2: a crisis pr manager who represented Johnny Depp, Oh, that's right,
Speaker 2: in his defamation case against ex wife Amberhard. According to
Speaker 2: texts published by The New York Times, Nathan suggested plans
Speaker 2: including quote full social takedowns by creating threads of theories
Speaker 2: and planting pieces in the media of how horrible Blake
Speaker 2: is to work with. That was like the beginning of this,
Speaker 2: and I feel like that's when everybody kind of started
Speaker 2: rallying around Blake, being like, this guy is a menace.
Speaker 2: While Lively said the alleged smear campaign had caused severe
Speaker 2: emotional distress for her and her family. She's married to
Speaker 2: Ryan Reynolds in case you didn't know, I think they
Speaker 2: have four kids, three or four, prompting her to back
Speaker 2: out of hosting the SNL Season fifty premiere.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 1: See, it's like something's fall through the cracks because there's
Speaker 1: just so much of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've got like the timeline here, I'm going
Speaker 2: to run you through it. This starts February. No, this
Speaker 2: is up until now February third, so this starts months
Speaker 2: and months and months ago.
Speaker 1: It's it's wild. And I remember the first time doing
Speaker 1: this in my celeb scoop on my shows was really
Speaker 1: the New York Times article because we'd heard rumors. But
Speaker 1: then you had the New York Times article and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, just like you said, people start rallying all this.
Speaker 1: Baldoni immediately comes out and he's like, this is not
Speaker 1: what it seems. Then you start to have co stars
Speaker 1: from other projects they've worked on that get involved, other
Speaker 1: Gossip Girl alums that didn't have great things to say.
Speaker 2: And see, that is the social media effect right now.
Speaker 2: Celebrities are taking a more humanized approach to social media
Speaker 2: where they're just like us and they talk about stuff
Speaker 2: that we talk about on social media. So you had
Speaker 2: all of these celebrities kind of coming to her defense
Speaker 2: and like rallying around her. But then also you had
Speaker 2: the ones that were like, I don't know, I haven't
Speaker 2: had the best experience with her in the past.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That fuels it. And then you've got
Speaker 1: the Times article and then what the next big thing
Speaker 1: is that then she files her lawsuit that was two
Speaker 1: point fifty two hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and uh, I'm curious. I did not look
Speaker 2: this up, but I would like to know how much
Speaker 2: the movie made, because oh, that's a good point I heard. Again,
Speaker 2: I have not seen the movie, but I have not
Speaker 2: heard glowing reviews on the quality of the film.
Speaker 1: And this is really you're doing a lovely job, because
Speaker 1: there was like, did this press tour all wrong? She
Speaker 1: was like promoting her wardrobe and her hair care products
Speaker 1: and things like that. There were so many other like
Speaker 1: tangents off of this stuff. Yeah, every day it was
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: Like around the time of the It Ends with Us premiere,
Speaker 2: Blake Lively was the subject of intense criticism online targeting
Speaker 2: how she promoted the film. And we all saw the
Speaker 2: press tour, right, yeah, we the press tour was a disaster.
Speaker 2: You could tell that every time she did press about
Speaker 2: this movie, she was agitated. She was irritated. She was
Speaker 2: taking it out on the people that were interviewing her.
Speaker 2: Like it just there was something going on and you
Speaker 2: could definitely tell, but we didn't know if it was
Speaker 2: pertaining to the movie retaining to her personal life or
Speaker 2: possibly something else. The opportune release of her hair care
Speaker 2: line and other behaviors were like a huge talking point
Speaker 2: of the things that she was promoting in this film
Speaker 2: that just seemed like a movie about domestic violence. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know that this is necessarily your jumping off
Speaker 2: point for launching your hair care brand.
Speaker 1: And not having seen the movie, but having read the book.
Speaker 1: I mean, the entire thing is domestic violence. It's not
Speaker 1: you know, building up to one big moment where she has,
Speaker 1: you know, clarification about what's going on, and she has
Speaker 1: this epiphany. The entire thing is about this really serious
Speaker 1: subject matter.
Speaker 2: And in one promotional video, she encourages the audience to quote,
Speaker 2: grab your friends, wear your florals, and head out to
Speaker 2: see the movie, which was pretty instantly criticized because of
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, her tone. People were pissed
Speaker 2: that she was like trying to sort of pass this
Speaker 2: off as some like feel good girls night out chick
Speaker 2: flick like no, and then people also claim she was
Speaker 2: attempting to promote the movie as a light hearted love story,
Speaker 2: cheapening the serious take on domestic abuse.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was told when I posted that I
Speaker 1: was reading that book last year. I had multiple women
Speaker 1: DM me and go, it's really great, but here's your
Speaker 1: trigger warning. That's how intense the book is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Baldoni took a completely different approach to
Speaker 2: promoting the movie. He was very serious, like from the beginning,
Speaker 2: he was very quiet, he was very demure when he
Speaker 2: was doing press and on carpets, which they never did together.
Speaker 2: They never did anything together, and Baldoni was praised for
Speaker 2: how he handled the promotion of the movie. Lively was
Speaker 2: also criticized for seeming to promote her newly launched hair
Speaker 2: care line, Blake Brown, off the back of the film.
Speaker 2: It was later revealed that the two were never supposed
Speaker 2: to launch at the same time, So what happened there?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Duction delayed caused by the Hollywood strikes in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: three also pushed the premiere of the movie, and it
Speaker 2: coincided with the predetermined launch date of the brand. So
Speaker 2: it just seems like they weren't supposed to launch at
Speaker 2: the same time, but then the Hollywood strikes, so then
Speaker 2: they had to launch at the same time. Push the
Speaker 2: launch back, push the launch back.
Speaker 1: You know what, I mean.
Speaker 2: Lively was also criticized for her reaction to an interviewer
Speaker 2: in a resurfaced twenty sixteen clip. This is the one
Speaker 2: that I've seen the most online where this is the
Speaker 2: how's your bump? Right? Mm hmm, that's that one where
Speaker 2: the interviewer Blake is pregnant at the time, and the
Speaker 2: interviewer asks her, Hey, thank you so much for being here,
Speaker 2: love to see you. How are you and your little bump?
Speaker 2: And Blake was like, how are you and your little bump.
Speaker 1: And then refused to look at her and address her
Speaker 1: again for the rest of the interview. It was I
Speaker 1: think I can't remember who the other woman was. It's
Speaker 1: not hyper parabo. Somebody different actually did like the entire thing,
Speaker 1: and Blake just continued to look very irritated. But again
Speaker 1: then you'll go into the comments and people are like,
Speaker 1: this is taken out of contexts, this has been edited together,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. By the way, the movie grossed over
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 2: Is that good these days?
Speaker 1: Or I don't know, but two fifty from Blake and
Speaker 1: then justin now counter swewing for four hundred million. This
Speaker 1: does not seem like a success.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, because this movie launched in August, I'm just
Speaker 2: kind of fast forward to December because that's when all
Speaker 2: of this really started ramping up. So December twentieth, Blake
Speaker 2: Lively filed a complaint with the California Civil Rights Department,
Speaker 2: claiming Baldoni invaded her privacy by entering her makeup trailer
Speaker 2: uninvited while she was undressed, pressuring her to lose weight
Speaker 2: after giving birth, and a coordinated pr campaign with a
Speaker 2: crisis firm designed to destroy her reputation. That was December twentieth.
Speaker 2: The very next day, December twenty first, Baldoni was dropped
Speaker 2: by his talent agency. Three days later, just number twenty
Speaker 2: fourth Vital Voices, a nonprofit that focuses on empowering women,
Speaker 2: rescinded an award it was originally going to give to
Speaker 2: Justin Baldoni, who has made a career expressing his support
Speaker 2: of women's stories and co hosted a podcast about masculinity
Speaker 2: called Man Enough, which his co host pulled out of
Speaker 2: the same day. YEP. Also December twenty fourth, Baldoni was
Speaker 2: sued by his ex publicist, Stephanie Jones over an alleged
Speaker 2: conspiracy to discredit her and steal her clients.
Speaker 1: And that stems I believe from the New York Times article.
Speaker 2: Yes, December thirty first, New Year's Eve, Blake Lively formally
Speaker 2: files a lawsuit in New York Federal court against Baldoni,
Speaker 2: his publicist, Wayfarer Studios, and other defendants for retaliating against
Speaker 2: her for reporting sexual harassment and workplace safety concerns. Also
Speaker 2: on December thirty first. There's just so much, so like
Speaker 2: there are multiple things happening every day and every day.
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot about how that world works,
Speaker 2: Hollywood in itself, but the legal aspect of things, this
Speaker 2: stuff is not just reactionary, right, Like you can't just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: someone filed a lawsuit against me, so I'm going to
Speaker 2: file a lawsuit back and get that in on the
Speaker 2: same day. Like this stuff takes a little bit of
Speaker 2: pre planning, right. So same day December thirty first, New
Speaker 2: Year's Eve, who knew this was going on? I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I did dad on my couch while this was happening.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: Baldoni files a two hundred and fifty million dollar libel
Speaker 2: lawsuit against The New York Times for reporting on Lively's allegations,
Speaker 2: accusing the outlet of having coward to the wants and
Speaker 2: whims of two powerful, quote untouchable Hollywood elites, referring to
Speaker 2: Blake Lively and her husband ryled Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 1: And he and then part of that lawsuit was him
Speaker 1: going and saying, you took text messages edited, where they
Speaker 1: were hitting, what they were about, how they were given.
Speaker 1: You didn't publish all of the text messages, so a
Speaker 1: lot of meaning and context was lost. Right.
Speaker 2: That was one of the interesting things about this was
Speaker 2: that it was the back and forth and that game
Speaker 2: of like chicken with the text messages. Like she had
Speaker 2: him in her suit and he was like, no, release
Speaker 2: all of them exactly, and.
Speaker 1: She was like.
Speaker 2: Okay, and he was like, yeah, release all of them.
Speaker 1: He is He's been very I feel front and center,
Speaker 1: like I do have the receipts and I am ready
Speaker 1: to show all of them.
Speaker 2: So three days later, January third, Friedman tells today he
Speaker 2: plans to file a lawsuit against Blake Lively after she
Speaker 2: was subjected to sexually inappropriate behavior by Baldoni on the
Speaker 2: set of their twenty twenty four film, but wouldn't say
Speaker 2: exactly what the countersuit would allege, though denied Lively's claims
Speaker 2: that Baldoni and his team launched a smear campaign against
Speaker 2: the actress.
Speaker 1: So Friedman is Baldoni's main lawyer.
Speaker 2: Got it ye. January seventh, Friedman appeared on Megan Kelly's
Speaker 2: YouTube show to discuss Baldoni's plans to sue Lively into oblivion?
Speaker 2: Did he really use those words? I think so wow?
Speaker 2: And pushed back on several of the actress's allegations, accusing
Speaker 2: Lively of not reading the source material for the film,
Speaker 2: refuting claims that she was sexually harassed, and accusing her
Speaker 2: of orchestrating her own smear campaign against Baldoni. The interview
Speaker 2: also included newly released sound from a voice note from
Speaker 2: Baldoni explaining that he was quote sent to the basement
Speaker 2: of the film's premiere because Lively didn't want to be
Speaker 2: anywhere near her or the rest of the cast didn't
Speaker 2: want him near her. The rest of the cast.
Speaker 1: Have you heard the voice note? It's it's it's wild,
Speaker 1: he says. I believe. He says he's down and he's
Speaker 1: down there with friends with family, like an hour and
Speaker 1: a half yeah, and just sat down there. According to him.
Speaker 2: According to him, so up until now, this is very
Speaker 2: much and I guess it still is. It's very much
Speaker 2: like he said, she said, but I felt like the
Speaker 2: pendulum was very much swinging in her favor and this
Speaker 2: was going to be another one of those instances where
Speaker 2: he's not going to get away with this, like it
Speaker 2: ends no pun intended, but it ends here like this
Speaker 2: is this is done.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But then on January eighth, so literally a day later,
Speaker 2: in an interview with Baldoni's attorney Brian Friedman, TMZ founder
Speaker 2: Harvey Levin said about the co stars competing accusations about
Speaker 2: online campaigns to damage one another's reputation. Both sides tried
Speaker 2: to skew this story. We've been on the recipient end
Speaker 2: of that. It has happened on both sides in the
Speaker 2: Blake Lively Justin Baldoni war, both sides.
Speaker 1: Like when you have TMZ acting as the mediator. Oh god.
Speaker 2: Baldoni's lawyer responded by saying, that's good to know. In
Speaker 2: recent days, the lawyer for Baldoni has denied Blake Lively's
Speaker 2: allegations that she faced a smear campaign by his PR team,
Speaker 2: claiming that her team was instead working to smear him.
Speaker 2: January tenth, Paul fag fig Fag.
Speaker 1: I think it's fig Actually, I think.
Speaker 2: Paul Figue, who directed Lively's upcoming film A simple favor too.
Speaker 2: Oh they're making another one of them with Anna Kendrick, right,
Speaker 2: mm hmmm, huh. They didn't really leave that open for
Speaker 2: a second, and I didn't think anyways. Sorry. He responded
Speaker 2: to viral rumors about the film that it had been
Speaker 2: shelved indefinitely partly due to the legal battle, calling it
Speaker 2: total bs and confirming the film is finished and it
Speaker 2: is coming out soon. I wonder how that shakes out,
Speaker 2: because that was January tenth, and it's February now.
Speaker 1: You have not heard anything either about it.
Speaker 2: Also January tenth, Deadline reports Baldoni's former publicist, Stephanie Jones,
Speaker 2: who had sued the actor in a handful of others
Speaker 2: defination and breach of contract in December, had issued subpoenas
Speaker 2: to WhatsApp, signal and website hosts Hostinger and name cheap
Speaker 2: digital publishing platform any Flip and chat pot chat bought
Speaker 2: company gab Ai in attempts to discover who may have
Speaker 2: been behind posts and websites aimed at harming Lively and
Speaker 2: Baldoni's reputations.
Speaker 1: Just can't trust anything online weird.
Speaker 2: January sixteenth, Baldoni files a federal lawsuit in New York
Speaker 2: against Lively, her husband Ryan Reynolds, her publicist Leslie Sloane,
Speaker 2: and the firm Vision pr alleging his co star tormented him,
Speaker 2: his family, his partners, falsely accusing him of sexual harassment
Speaker 2: and using him as a scapegoat to dodge the narrative
Speaker 2: press or the negative press surrounding. He also pushed back
Speaker 2: on claims he sexually harassed her, instead claiming she calculatingly
Speaker 2: devised fake stories to destroy his reputation. In Livelihood sees
Speaker 2: control of the film he was directing and set out
Speaker 2: to damage his career and Wayfarer Studios quote if they
Speaker 2: did not bend to her incessant demands.
Speaker 1: WHOA you're still going?
Speaker 2: Yeah, still going?
Speaker 1: I know I haven't said a lot because there's still
Speaker 1: so much more to cover. I guess.
Speaker 2: January twenty first, Baldoni's legal team countered Lively's claims that
Speaker 2: he acted inappropriately while filming a slow dance scene for
Speaker 2: the film by releasing a ten minute video from the
Speaker 2: set that includes three takes of the same scene, which
Speaker 2: Baldoni's team says is the entirety of the footage shot
Speaker 2: for that scene, during which Lively alleged in a lawsuit
Speaker 2: that Baldoni leaned forward and slowly dragged his lips from
Speaker 2: her ear and down her neck as he said it
Speaker 2: smells so good. The footage shows a similar interaction where
Speaker 2: where Baldoni is seen nuzzling her neck and she says,
Speaker 2: I'm probably getting spray tan on you, to which he
Speaker 2: respond it smells good. Lively's team says the footage fully
Speaker 2: corroborates her account, and any woman who has been inappropriately
Speaker 2: inappropriately touched in the workplace will recognize miss Lively's discomfort.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that video, Baldoni's lawyer said. The footage
Speaker 2: proves both actors clearly behaved well within the scope of
Speaker 2: the scene, with mutual respect and professionalism.
Speaker 1: Because then later on you'll fast forward and find his
Speaker 1: other allegation about the intimacy coordinator and the meetings she's
Speaker 1: skipped out.
Speaker 2: On January twenty seventh, Daily Mail publishes a nearly seven
Speaker 2: minute voice note. It says Baldoni sent to Lively at
Speaker 2: two am during the filming of the movie, in which
Speaker 2: he allegedly apologizes for not being open enough to script
Speaker 2: changes that she made, admitting he is a very flawed man,
Speaker 2: and makes a reference to her breastfeeding her then newborn child.
Speaker 2: It's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: It's it because I listen. I think I listened to
Speaker 1: almost the entire seven minutes of it, and I believe
Speaker 1: what he was discussing is her talking about coming into
Speaker 1: her dressing room and when she was unclothed and things
Speaker 1: like that. And he is alleging that she invited him in,
Speaker 1: that he had told her exactly what he wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about, and then suddenly that changed for her and
Speaker 1: put him in this negative light when he was doing
Speaker 1: everything in his power to make sure that he wasn't
Speaker 1: making her uncomfortable and was talking about things that needed
Speaker 1: to happen with the movie as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'd another update on January twenty seventh, like multiple
Speaker 2: things every.
Speaker 1: Day say I've been doing I mean every single day,
Speaker 1: I was doing this on my shows. It was so absurd.
Speaker 2: Lyman told Lively and Baldoni's lawyers to prepare for a
Speaker 2: March ninth, twenty twenty sixth, trial date and set a
Speaker 2: pre trial conference to discuss, among other things, complaints from
Speaker 2: Lively's teams about the conduct of Baldoni's lawyer. Lively's lawyers
Speaker 2: have claimed that Friedman, Baldoni's lawyer, is trying to paint
Speaker 2: potential jurors by creating a website to release communication between
Speaker 2: the two actors and documents from the set, and accused
Speaker 2: him of making an endless stream of defamatory and extra
Speaker 2: judicial media statements. Please make the website. We would love
Speaker 2: a place where we can get all of this in one.
Speaker 1: So he did. He published it over the weekend this weekend,
Speaker 1: this past weekend. I believe it's just called like because
Speaker 1: that was what was a big topic in the court
Speaker 1: hearing on Monday.
Speaker 2: January twenty ninth. Hollywood Reporter cites unnamed sources in reporting
Speaker 2: that Baldoni has lost three jobs and hundreds of millions
Speaker 2: of dollars since Lively first filed the suit against him
Speaker 2: in December, and that an in the works pac Man
Speaker 2: movie project he was set to direct is now in jeopardy.
Speaker 2: January thirtieth, lawyers for Lively and Reynolds set in a
Speaker 2: letter to Lyneman that they planned to move to dismiss
Speaker 2: the lawsuit filed against them at a pre trial conference
Speaker 2: scheduled for Monday February Yesterday, yes February first, Baldoni's team
Speaker 2: published a website dedicated to supporting his lawsuit against Lively
Speaker 2: and Reynolds that links to an amended complaint filed on
Speaker 2: January thirty first. It contains a timeline of the events
Speaker 2: outlining what he says happened on the set of It
Speaker 2: Ends with Us, including corresponding text messages, emails, and a
Speaker 2: statement Baldoni has said he was pressured into releasing by
Speaker 2: Reynolds and Lively that would have seen him take the
Speaker 2: blame for quote troubled production of the movie. He refused
Speaker 2: to put out that statement. In addition, he released a
Speaker 2: text message exchange with Lively that showed she chose not
Speaker 2: to meet with an on set intimacy coordinator that he
Speaker 2: had hired, leaving him to relay uncomfortable information from the
Speaker 2: meeting on his own.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the name of the website because
Speaker 1: it's just so, it's.
Speaker 2: Like February third, this is yesterday. New York Federal Judge
Speaker 2: Lewis J. Lyman told lawyers for Lively and Baldoni that
Speaker 2: he would move up the trial date set for March
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, if the case continued to be litigated
Speaker 2: in the press. Lyman ordered both sides to adhere to
Speaker 2: the New York Roles of Professional Conduct, which stops lawyers
Speaker 2: from making public comments that have a substantial likelihood of
Speaker 2: tainting a jury, but stopped short of sanctioning Baldoni's attorney,
Speaker 2: Brian Friedman, despite claims from Lively's team that he has
Speaker 2: gotten close to defaming her and has made extra judicial
Speaker 2: statements about her and her character.
Speaker 1: The lawsuit info dot com he published everything over and so,
Speaker 1: and now that judge was threatening to move the trial up,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, then you guys won't have the time
Speaker 1: necessary maybe and you'll find a duram. We'll figure this
Speaker 1: out out it is And all of that went own
Speaker 1: in like six weeks. Incredible there, And there's so many
Speaker 1: other things like what he was saying. His wife came
Speaker 1: out in support of him. He had other people that
Speaker 1: were showing text messages to them about things like when
Speaker 1: he was trapped down in this basement at the Red
Speaker 1: Carpet premiere. Colleen Hoover left Instagram. Yeah, Colleen left Instagram
Speaker 1: because of all the commentary.
Speaker 2: Because she couldn't handle it. And at first she had
Speaker 2: been like really really supportive of Blake Lively, and she
Speaker 2: had come out and said like she was great. She's
Speaker 2: exactly who we wanted. She was exactly the person you
Speaker 2: would want to be handling this type of content. And
Speaker 2: I did think it was a little bit weird that
Speaker 2: on both sides they had such a complete and succinct
Speaker 2: record of everything that had happened and when it had happened, Like,
Speaker 2: is that just like a normal thing people do on
Speaker 2: movies now to protect themselves, which is just like, why
Speaker 2: don't you I yeah, I guess I don't work in
Speaker 2: the business, so I don't know. But I saw online
Speaker 2: a person speculating that it was Justin Baldoni's wife who
Speaker 2: had kind of sniffed Blake Lively out right away and said,
Speaker 2: you need to make sure you'd document everything on this one.
Speaker 2: It's so, of course, we don't know if that's true.
Speaker 1: Right right. Taylor Swift was mentioned in a lawsuit, even
Speaker 1: though she was not being sued, that there was some
Speaker 1: conversation paraphrasing about Blake using her dragons to take him down.
Speaker 2: I don't care how close we are as friends. I
Speaker 2: would I got a short list of people I would
Speaker 2: take a bullet for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
Speaker 2: But if you were embroiled in a high profile lawsuit
Speaker 2: and you were speaking about me as if you were
Speaker 2: Kalisi and I was one of your dragons, I might
Speaker 2: call you and be like.
Speaker 1: What the not? Not the look? Not the look. Even
Speaker 1: though I did goes Clacy for Halloween one year, I
Speaker 1: did have dragons, I would never not in a legal setting.
Speaker 2: I bet they weren't Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 1: No, none at all, not at all. But there's so
Speaker 1: much there.
Speaker 2: And then it came out that Taylor Swift was allegedly
Speaker 2: again this is all speculation because Hollywood.
Speaker 1: All speculative and we don't want to get sued, but.
Speaker 2: Was possibly distancing herself from Blake Lively because she felt
Speaker 2: a little bit used in all of this. And then
Speaker 2: you know, we have seen Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds
Speaker 2: together or separately with Taylor Swift at some NFL games,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, you know they weren't there.
Speaker 2: Are they invited to this football game we got coming up?
Speaker 2: Or won't they be there? That's one of the prop
Speaker 2: bets I saw.
Speaker 1: Oh really, well, that's interesting, And I mean, who even
Speaker 1: knows what changes when this gets posted? Like right, our
Speaker 1: pod usually hits on a Friday, we're talking about this,
Speaker 1: and that could there could still be so much in
Speaker 1: a couple days.
Speaker 2: So here's the question. You haven't seen the movie. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen the movie. When there is this much scandal
Speaker 2: around a movie, does it make you want to go
Speaker 2: watch it even a little bit?
Speaker 1: It makes me want to watch it less right, It
Speaker 1: really does. And I think that was an unintentional when
Speaker 1: you hear this saying no, all press is good press,
Speaker 1: no such thing as bad press, I very much disagree,
Speaker 1: because most of the people I know and my friends
Speaker 1: that we're gonna see it are like, I don't think
Speaker 1: you could watch it anymore without feeling so cringey about
Speaker 1: what is happening behind the scenes, especially given the subject matter.
Speaker 1: If this is a comedy we're talking about, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: the actors are fighting whatever funny movie, not this, not
Speaker 1: this one, And I have absolutely zero desire. And Netflix
Speaker 1: keeps trying to serve it to me. You love this,
Speaker 1: you would love this. I'm like, I don't think I would.
Speaker 1: Book was enough for me. This is really unfortunate because
Speaker 1: I think it could could have been a really good movie.
Speaker 1: It was a good book.
Speaker 2: And I haven't seen Blake Lively. I haven't seen paparazzi
Speaker 2: photos of her. I haven't seen her photographed out and
Speaker 2: about everywhere. So maybe she's just kind of chilling at
Speaker 2: home and like taking some time to ride this out
Speaker 2: because I'm sure it's overwhelming and I'm sure it's super stressful.
Speaker 2: But I did see Ryan Reynolds was out the other
Speaker 2: day and he was like photographed by a bunch of
Speaker 2: paparazzi like signing, hey, sure's.
Speaker 1: The wit and surprised Hugh Jackman at his think he's
Speaker 1: doing something on Broadway right now, and isn't that awful,
Speaker 1: because like I looked at the video and I was like,
Speaker 1: alhwa's trying so hard to be nice. But you also
Speaker 1: have been in this industry long enough where you know
Speaker 1: that it's very important to create a public image, especially
Speaker 1: one that may have been tainted by whatever is happening.
Speaker 1: Right I don't know, it's so it sounds terrible and
Speaker 1: they both have kids too, and you're just like, damn,
Speaker 1: you're in Google this sooner rather than later, just know everything.
Speaker 2: I didn't think about that aspect of it.
Speaker 1: I always do with celebrities that have kids. I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: good luck.
Speaker 2: And it's messy, and it's just like it's the spectacle
Speaker 2: of the moment right now.
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel bad about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the Johnny Depp and Amber heard stuff like
Speaker 2: everybody was glued to the TV watching that and I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't watch the trial because I was like, this
Speaker 2: is like really sensitive information that they are talking about.
Speaker 2: This stuff happened. When you're a celebrity like that, you
Speaker 2: probably have to have such a tight inner circle, like
Speaker 2: there are maybe a handful of people that you can
Speaker 2: truly be yourself around, and you would hope that your
Speaker 2: significant other, the person that you love and for all
Speaker 2: intents and purposes will spend the rest of your life with,
Speaker 2: would be one of those people where you can let
Speaker 2: the mask down right and do and then all of
Speaker 2: those things, all of those moments that you think are
Speaker 2: like private and like they won't tell we have an
Speaker 2: understanding then they're all public and anybody can watch that trial. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is just that is my not for me.
Speaker 1: Where's thy marige for you all to realize what I'm
Speaker 1: actually like? Yes, that.
Speaker 2: Worst case scenario.
Speaker 1: It was a great rundown. Though well done it. I
Speaker 1: know you researched that it.
Speaker 2: Was all all out of it. I got a shout
Speaker 2: out to Forbes. There's so much other stuff like surrounding this,
Speaker 2: and it's like it is so day by day, but
Speaker 2: it's so confusing and there's so much and that's because
Speaker 2: there's so much happening every day, there's multiple things happening
Speaker 2: in the course of twenty four hours. With this, it's
Speaker 2: hard to keep up. So I wanted to like sift
Speaker 2: through it for myself, but also so I could tell
Speaker 2: my sister what was going on, like she was a
Speaker 2: five year old.
Speaker 1: And once again, just so much money.
Speaker 2: And it's so much it's so much stuff happening, but
Speaker 2: also nothing's happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should be a reporter on this. That's perfectly said.
Speaker 1: So much is happening and yet.
Speaker 2: And yet nothing. I don't think this has moved forward
Speaker 2: aside from the like I think one of the biggest
Speaker 2: developments was the judge setting a trial date March of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Twenty six, y'all, more than a year away.
Speaker 2: That's too much. That is too much runway for something
Speaker 2: else to happen. Number one, It's just it's too much
Speaker 2: time for PR companies to scheme.
Speaker 1: Ooh good word right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, spin or do whatever they need to do.
Speaker 1: It's wild anyway, now that your brain is also melting
Speaker 1: out of your ears, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it, Like I feel like
Speaker 2: this isn't something that I want to take up any
Speaker 2: brain space with, and yet here we are, but I
Speaker 2: still don't want to see the movie.
Speaker 1: Nope. Sorry, Netflix,