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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Buns and Banter, a podcast buy work Busties

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<v Speaker 1>for work Busties. Hey, I'm Lauren and I'm Ali. We're

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<v Speaker 1>both morning show hosts for iHeartMedia.

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<v Speaker 2>We're both millennials.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're both trying to figure out how to build

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<v Speaker 1>the lives we dream about, dating, marriage, career, career and

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<v Speaker 1>being a mom.

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<v Speaker 2>How to get through a week without crying.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Buns and Banter.

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<v Speaker 2>We're glad you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, first of all.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, how many blonds does it take to put the

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<v Speaker 2>water chuck on the water cooler. It's my favorite job though,

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<v Speaker 2>of my I mean, we don't really have responsibilities and

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<v Speaker 2>duties here, yeah, but it is. It's my favorite thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do here is put the water on the thing. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know you did that at least on our floor,

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<v Speaker 2>not on this floor, you miss.

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<v Speaker 1>We are like, I'm kind of hard breathing because we've

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<v Speaker 1>got those I don't know who at Gordon Water. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Gordon.

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<v Speaker 2>Water, Shout out to Gordon Water. Well, I'm sure is

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<v Speaker 2>nothing as high draded.

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<v Speaker 1>Not aware that the thingy is kind of broken, So

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<v Speaker 1>we just pulled the giant drum of water onto it

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<v Speaker 1>to realize that the spagets weren't working, so all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, the thing just started spewing out water. And

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<v Speaker 1>we don't like to leave a mess because we're kind.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Dirty sink water because that was a hard piece of

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<v Speaker 2>water to get that it's not great, which they have

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<v Speaker 2>told us repeatedly not to drink because they don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what these pipes are made of. And this is an

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<v Speaker 2>extremely old building. So we're just we're taking our life

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<v Speaker 2>in our hands today.

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<v Speaker 1>Goal Wait, theer's crossed. I guess some kind of tapeworm.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never met someone who wants to get cholera as

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<v Speaker 2>much as you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not colera now, I'm all I'm nervous about the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Make it it's way into Michigan, and I just know

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<v Speaker 1>my medical anomaly self. I've already I had whooping cough

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<v Speaker 1>in November if y'all missed it, I am an absolute

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Ingles Wilder in present day.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like to know a fun fact about TB

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<v Speaker 2>tuberculos as I assume we're talking about right.

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<v Speaker 1>Please give me the fun fast.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you know why Adirondack chairs are called Adirondack

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<v Speaker 2>chairs because they would take TB patients to the Adirondack

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<v Speaker 2>Mountains when they were sick, and that they would sit

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<v Speaker 2>them on those chairs outside in the fresh air to

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<v Speaker 2>recuperate and heal. So aday chairs. I know there's a

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<v Speaker 2>few pieces of info in there. I miss it so

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<v Speaker 2>high level. That's the things you learn on buns and banter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shoot, if that's gonna give me a trip to

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains where I just have to sit on my

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<v Speaker 1>ass and breathe, come on into my lung I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like I don't want the TB, but I'll

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<v Speaker 2>take the time away.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I feel I just feel very out

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<v Speaker 1>of sorts today. First we had the water situation. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking TB, which I just feel like my lungs

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<v Speaker 1>love inviting a good illness. And I have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you real quick because I feel like this is a PSA.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have bougie appliances. So I have a washer,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is so new to me because I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had nice new things like that. H So we have

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<v Speaker 1>a new washer and dryer. Maybe yours does this if

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<v Speaker 1>you like it with a really big load, right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get all my clothes done. That's right. Take

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<v Speaker 1>the innuendo as you will. So I've got a big

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<v Speaker 1>load in there. And apparently as one does as one does,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not separate colors that do not do anything

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<v Speaker 1>adult like that. I'm a glorified child throwing clothes in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was so responsible. I'm like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>do this tonight. That way i have everything ready for

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<v Speaker 1>work tomorrow, and I can put things in the dryer

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<v Speaker 1>and have warm pants for work, which is my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh yeah. Sometime overnight the AI washer decided it was

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<v Speaker 1>not it was off balance, so it shuts the cycle

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<v Speaker 1>down and then it's like, hey, and Lizia. So this

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<v Speaker 1>morning I went to get nice warm pants or put

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<v Speaker 1>them in the dryer, and it was like, oh, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>could you just open the lid and redistribute the clothes

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<v Speaker 1>and the washing cycle will continue.

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<v Speaker 2>We put a man on the moon and our washing

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<v Speaker 2>machine the moon can't figure out how to recalibrate and reorganize.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going on vacation, so I wanted everything clean.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was everything I own. So today I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 1>leggings from college. I found a treetops shirt that says,

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<v Speaker 1>keep Calman, head up north and I put on a scarf.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this belonged to an old roommate of mine

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<v Speaker 1>to try and pull the look together.

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<v Speaker 2>You look amazing, So I'm just feeling very off.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're watching YouTube right now, I promise that I

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<v Speaker 1>probably would wear something like this, but this is really

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<v Speaker 1>low key for me. This was this was AI's fault.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm blaming it on.

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<v Speaker 2>You look cute today.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel these like I don't know where I got these,

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<v Speaker 1>but they go all the way up to like my boobs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my favorite kinds. Oh, that's my favorite kind.

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<v Speaker 1>No that high?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I feel like I should have like an

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<v Speaker 1>afghan across my lap and be sitting on the davenport

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm one hundred and five years old. They're like

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<v Speaker 1>old man pants. I'm just having I'm having a time today.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I'm excited we were able to pod because

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise it's just going nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're at it for some vacae, some warmer temperatures. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know what, you don't even have to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about leggings or long sleeves or vests or scarfs where

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<v Speaker 2>you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. Good for you, Thank you so much. That

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<v Speaker 1>was absolutely planned. But I'm excited what we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>today because this was all your idea and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just you know what tipped me over the

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<v Speaker 2>edge because I've been following the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuit woo that pertains to the movie It Ends with Us,

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<v Speaker 2>which is based off a book written by Colleen Hoover.

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<v Speaker 2>And we talked about the book, and you have the book,

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<v Speaker 2>but you didn't read it. I did read you did

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<v Speaker 2>I've read the book. Yeah, okay, okay, we can get

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<v Speaker 2>into that in a little bit. But I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is just like so fascinating to me because it has

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<v Speaker 2>been such a shit show from the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>So and the beginning is it feels to me like

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<v Speaker 1>months and months and months and months ago. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess when you talk the press tour, but the legal

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<v Speaker 1>side of this is only like a few weeks old. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like mid December.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is going to drag on for years because

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that they're really worried about is

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<v Speaker 2>that this is going to a jury trial. I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you a background of the lawsuit here or the several

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuits here in just a second. But one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I saw today was that they're worried about

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<v Speaker 2>all of the coverage tainting the jury pool. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I can't believe that they are going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a jury trial for this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild. And I've never heard a half gag order,

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<v Speaker 1>which was what So they were in front of a

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<v Speaker 1>district judge in Manhattan yesterday and at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like we hear this every time there's

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<v Speaker 1>a new piece of news. Both sides considered it a

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<v Speaker 1>victory weird, and I just I agree with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you could possibly sit people that have

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<v Speaker 1>never heard about this, unless you're talking all boomers.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, my oldest sister texted me last week and

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<v Speaker 2>she said, Okay, I have I've seen enough of this

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively, shit, now I need someone to

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<v Speaker 2>sort through it all and explain it to me like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm five. And I was like, okay, Well, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to keep up with. Yeah, it's day by

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<v Speaker 2>day updates. So if you're not familiar, here's the background.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Baldoni directed and co starred with Blake Lively. This

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<v Speaker 2>is from Forbes, so I feel like that's pretty credible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a credible source.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to look for something that wasn't like the

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<v Speaker 2>Globe or the Post or like US Weekly or something,

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<v Speaker 2>but Justin Baldoni directed and co starred with Blake Lively.

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<v Speaker 2>It Ends with Us, the movie adaptation of Colleen Hoover's

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<v Speaker 2>best selling book, which was released last August. Now disclaimer,

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<v Speaker 2>I have not seen the movie. I don't plan to

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<v Speaker 2>see the movie. Same I have not read the book.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't plan to read the book.

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<v Speaker 1>You have read the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Rumors of a rift developing between Lively and Baldoni during

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<v Speaker 2>post production began to emerge around the movie's release so

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<v Speaker 2>in August, and they were further funeral during the film's

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<v Speaker 2>press tour when Blake Lively appeared to avoid mention of

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<v Speaker 2>him in interviews, which was like kind of glaring. Speculation

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<v Speaker 2>emerged that there were disputes over creative control, and sources

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<v Speaker 2>told TMC Baldoni had fat shamed her by inquiring about

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<v Speaker 2>her weight, telling an onset trainer he wanted to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>injury while lifting her up in the movie. Baldoni and

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<v Speaker 2>Lively were never photographed together when they were promoting the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>Rumors of the feud grew, and Baldoni hired Melissa Nathan,

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<v Speaker 2>a crisis pr manager who represented Johnny Depp, Oh, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>in his defamation case against ex wife Amberhard. According to

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<v Speaker 2>texts published by The New York Times, Nathan suggested plans

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<v Speaker 2>including quote full social takedowns by creating threads of theories

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<v Speaker 2>and planting pieces in the media of how horrible Blake

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<v Speaker 2>is to work with. That was like the beginning of this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like that's when everybody kind of started

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<v Speaker 2>rallying around Blake, being like, this guy is a menace.

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<v Speaker 2>While Lively said the alleged smear campaign had caused severe

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<v Speaker 2>emotional distress for her and her family. She's married to

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Reynolds in case you didn't know, I think they

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<v Speaker 2>have four kids, three or four, prompting her to back

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<v Speaker 2>out of hosting the SNL Season fifty premiere.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>See, it's like something's fall through the cracks because there's

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<v Speaker 1>just so much of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I've got like the timeline here, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to run you through it. This starts February. No, this

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<v Speaker 2>is up until now February third, so this starts months

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<v Speaker 2>and months and months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's wild. And I remember the first time doing

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<v Speaker 1>this in my celeb scoop on my shows was really

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Times article because we'd heard rumors. But

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<v Speaker 1>then you had the New York Times article and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, just like you said, people start rallying all this.

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<v Speaker 1>Baldoni immediately comes out and he's like, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>what it seems. Then you start to have co stars

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<v Speaker 1>from other projects they've worked on that get involved, other

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<v Speaker 1>Gossip Girl alums that didn't have great things to say.

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<v Speaker 2>And see, that is the social media effect right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Celebrities are taking a more humanized approach to social media

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<v Speaker 2>where they're just like us and they talk about stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that we talk about on social media. So you had

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<v Speaker 2>all of these celebrities kind of coming to her defense

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<v Speaker 2>and like rallying around her. But then also you had

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that were like, I don't know, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. That fuels it. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the Times article and then what the next big thing

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<v Speaker 1>is that then she files her lawsuit that was two

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<v Speaker 1>point fifty two hundred and fifty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and uh, I'm curious. I did not look

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<v Speaker 2>this up, but I would like to know how much

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<v Speaker 2>the movie made, because oh, that's a good point I heard. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I have not seen the movie, but I have not

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<v Speaker 2>heard glowing reviews on the quality of the film.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is really you're doing a lovely job, because

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<v Speaker 1>there was like, did this press tour all wrong? She

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. There were so many other like

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<v Speaker 1>tangents off of this stuff. Yeah, every day it was

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<v Speaker 1>something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like around the time of the It Ends with Us premiere,

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<v Speaker 2>Blake Lively was the subject of intense criticism online targeting

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<v Speaker 2>how she promoted the film. And we all saw the

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<v Speaker 2>press tour, right, yeah, we the press tour was a disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>You could tell that every time she did press about

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<v Speaker 2>this movie, she was agitated. She was irritated. She was

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<v Speaker 2>taking it out on the people that were interviewing her.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it just there was something going on and you

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<v Speaker 2>could definitely tell, but we didn't know if it was

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<v Speaker 2>pertaining to the movie retaining to her personal life or

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<v Speaker 2>possibly something else. The opportune release of her hair care

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<v Speaker 2>line and other behaviors were like a huge talking point

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that she was promoting in this film

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<v Speaker 2>that just seemed like a movie about domestic violence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that this is necessarily your jumping off

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<v Speaker 1>And not having seen the movie, but having read the book.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the entire thing is domestic violence. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, building up to one big moment where she has,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, clarification about what's going on, and she has

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<v Speaker 1>this epiphany. The entire thing is about this really serious

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<v Speaker 2>And in one promotional video, she encourages the audience to quote,

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<v Speaker 2>grab your friends, wear your florals, and head out to

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<v Speaker 2>see the movie, which was pretty instantly criticized because of

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, first of all, her tone. People were pissed

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<v Speaker 2>that she was like trying to sort of pass this

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<v Speaker 2>flick like no, and then people also claim she was

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<v Speaker 2>attempting to promote the movie as a light hearted love story,

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<v Speaker 2>cheapening the serious take on domestic abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was told when I posted that I

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<v Speaker 1>was reading that book last year. I had multiple women

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<v Speaker 1>DM me and go, it's really great, but here's your

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<v Speaker 1>trigger warning. That's how intense the book is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then Baldoni took a completely different approach to

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<v Speaker 2>promoting the movie. He was very serious, like from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>he was very quiet, he was very demure when he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing press and on carpets, which they never did together.

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<v Speaker 2>They never did anything together, and Baldoni was praised for

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<v Speaker 2>how he handled the promotion of the movie. Lively was

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<v Speaker 2>also criticized for seeming to promote her newly launched hair

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<v Speaker 2>care line, Blake Brown, off the back of the film.

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<v Speaker 2>It was later revealed that the two were never supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to launch at the same time, So what happened there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Duction delayed caused by the Hollywood strikes in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three also pushed the premiere of the movie, and it

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<v Speaker 2>coincided with the predetermined launch date of the brand. So

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<v Speaker 2>it just seems like they weren't supposed to launch at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, but then the Hollywood strikes, so then

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<v Speaker 2>they had to launch at the same time. Push the

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<v Speaker 2>launch back, push the launch back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Lively was also criticized for her reaction to an interviewer

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<v Speaker 2>in a resurfaced twenty sixteen clip. This is the one

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<v Speaker 2>that I've seen the most online where this is the

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<v Speaker 2>how's your bump? Right? Mm hmm, that's that one where

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<v Speaker 2>the interviewer Blake is pregnant at the time, and the

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<v Speaker 2>interviewer asks her, Hey, thank you so much for being here,

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<v Speaker 2>love to see you. How are you and your little bump?

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<v Speaker 2>And Blake was like, how are you and your little bump.

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<v Speaker 1>And then refused to look at her and address her

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<v Speaker 1>again for the rest of the interview. It was I

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<v Speaker 1>think I can't remember who the other woman was. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not hyper parabo. Somebody different actually did like the entire thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and Blake just continued to look very irritated. But again

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<v Speaker 1>then you'll go into the comments and people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is taken out of contexts, this has been edited together,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. By the way, the movie grossed over

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and fifty million.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that good these days?

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<v Speaker 1>Or I don't know, but two fifty from Blake and

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<v Speaker 1>then justin now counter swewing for four hundred million. This

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<v Speaker 1>does not seem like a success.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, because this movie launched in August, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of fast forward to December because that's when all

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<v Speaker 2>of this really started ramping up. So December twentieth, Blake

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<v Speaker 2>Lively filed a complaint with the California Civil Rights Department,

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<v Speaker 2>claiming Baldoni invaded her privacy by entering her makeup trailer

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<v Speaker 2>uninvited while she was undressed, pressuring her to lose weight

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<v Speaker 2>after giving birth, and a coordinated pr campaign with a

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<v Speaker 2>crisis firm designed to destroy her reputation. That was December twentieth.

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<v Speaker 2>The very next day, December twenty first, Baldoni was dropped

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<v Speaker 2>by his talent agency. Three days later, just number twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fourth Vital Voices, a nonprofit that focuses on empowering women,

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<v Speaker 2>rescinded an award it was originally going to give to

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Baldoni, who has made a career expressing his support

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<v Speaker 2>of women's stories and co hosted a podcast about masculinity

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<v Speaker 2>called Man Enough, which his co host pulled out of

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<v Speaker 2>the same day. YEP. Also December twenty fourth, Baldoni was

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<v Speaker 2>sued by his ex publicist, Stephanie Jones over an alleged

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy to discredit her and steal her clients.

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<v Speaker 1>And that stems I believe from the New York Times article.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, December thirty first, New Year's Eve, Blake Lively formally

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<v Speaker 2>files a lawsuit in New York Federal court against Baldoni,

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<v Speaker 2>his publicist, Wayfarer Studios, and other defendants for retaliating against

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<v Speaker 2>her for reporting sexual harassment and workplace safety concerns. Also

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<v Speaker 2>on December thirty first. There's just so much, so like

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<v Speaker 2>there are multiple things happening every day and every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know a lot about how that world works,

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood in itself, but the legal aspect of things, this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff is not just reactionary, right, Like you can't just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>someone filed a lawsuit against me, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>file a lawsuit back and get that in on the

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<v Speaker 2>same day. Like this stuff takes a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>pre planning, right. So same day December thirty first, New

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<v Speaker 2>Year's Eve, who knew this was going on? I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I did dad on my couch while this was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Baldoni files a two hundred and fifty million dollar libel

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuit against The New York Times for reporting on Lively's allegations,

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<v Speaker 2>accusing the outlet of having coward to the wants and

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<v Speaker 2>whims of two powerful, quote untouchable Hollywood elites, referring to

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<v Speaker 2>Blake Lively and her husband ryled Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds.

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<v Speaker 1>And he and then part of that lawsuit was him

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<v Speaker 1>going and saying, you took text messages edited, where they

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<v Speaker 1>were hitting, what they were about, how they were given.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't publish all of the text messages, so a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of meaning and context was lost. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of the interesting things about this was

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<v Speaker 2>that it was the back and forth and that game

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<v Speaker 2>of like chicken with the text messages. Like she had

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<v Speaker 2>him in her suit and he was like, no, release

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<v Speaker 2>all of them exactly, and.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and he was like, yeah, release all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>He is He's been very I feel front and center,

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<v Speaker 1>like I do have the receipts and I am ready

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<v Speaker 1>to show all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So three days later, January third, Friedman tells today he

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<v Speaker 2>plans to file a lawsuit against Blake Lively after she

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<v Speaker 2>was subjected to sexually inappropriate behavior by Baldoni on the

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<v Speaker 2>set of their twenty twenty four film, but wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what the countersuit would allege, though denied Lively's claims

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<v Speaker 2>that Baldoni and his team launched a smear campaign against

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<v Speaker 2>the actress.

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<v Speaker 1>So Friedman is Baldoni's main lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it ye. January seventh, Friedman appeared on Megan Kelly's

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube show to discuss Baldoni's plans to sue Lively into oblivion?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he really use those words? I think so wow?

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<v Speaker 2>And pushed back on several of the actress's allegations, accusing

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<v Speaker 2>Lively of not reading the source material for the film,

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<v Speaker 2>refuting claims that she was sexually harassed, and accusing her

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<v Speaker 2>of orchestrating her own smear campaign against Baldoni. The interview

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<v Speaker 2>also included newly released sound from a voice note from

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<v Speaker 2>Baldoni explaining that he was quote sent to the basement

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<v Speaker 2>of the film's premiere because Lively didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere near her or the rest of the cast didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want him near her. The rest of the cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard the voice note? It's it's it's wild,

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<v Speaker 1>he says. I believe. He says he's down and he's

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<v Speaker 1>down there with friends with family, like an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half yeah, and just sat down there. According to him.

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<v Speaker 2>According to him, so up until now, this is very

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<v Speaker 2>much and I guess it still is. It's very much

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<v Speaker 2>like he said, she said, but I felt like the

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<v Speaker 2>pendulum was very much swinging in her favor and this

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be another one of those instances where

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<v Speaker 2>he's not going to get away with this, like it

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<v Speaker 2>ends no pun intended, but it ends here like this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But then on January eighth, so literally a day later,

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<v Speaker 2>in an interview with Baldoni's attorney Brian Friedman, TMZ founder

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<v Speaker 2>Harvey Levin said about the co stars competing accusations about

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<v Speaker 2>online campaigns to damage one another's reputation. Both sides tried

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<v Speaker 2>to skew this story. We've been on the recipient end

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<v Speaker 2>of that. It has happened on both sides in the

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<v Speaker 2>Blake Lively Justin Baldoni war, both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you have TMZ acting as the mediator. Oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>Baldoni's lawyer responded by saying, that's good to know. In

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<v Speaker 2>recent days, the lawyer for Baldoni has denied Blake Lively's

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<v Speaker 2>allegations that she faced a smear campaign by his PR team,

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<v Speaker 2>claiming that her team was instead working to smear him.

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<v Speaker 2>January tenth, Paul fag fig Fag.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fig Actually, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Figue, who directed Lively's upcoming film A simple favor too.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they're making another one of them with Anna Kendrick, right,

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<v Speaker 2>mm hmmm, huh. They didn't really leave that open for

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<v Speaker 2>a second, and I didn't think anyways. Sorry. He responded

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<v Speaker 2>to viral rumors about the film that it had been

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<v Speaker 2>shelved indefinitely partly due to the legal battle, calling it

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<v Speaker 2>total bs and confirming the film is finished and it

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<v Speaker 2>is coming out soon. I wonder how that shakes out,

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<v Speaker 2>because that was January tenth, and it's February now.

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<v Speaker 1>You have not heard anything either about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Also January tenth, Deadline reports Baldoni's former publicist, Stephanie Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>who had sued the actor in a handful of others

422
00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:04.359
<v Speaker 2>defination and breach of contract in December, had issued subpoenas

423
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<v Speaker 2>to WhatsApp, signal and website hosts Hostinger and name cheap

424
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<v Speaker 2>digital publishing platform any Flip and chat pot chat bought

425
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<v Speaker 2>company gab Ai in attempts to discover who may have

426
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<v Speaker 2>been behind posts and websites aimed at harming Lively and

427
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<v Speaker 2>Baldoni's reputations.

428
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<v Speaker 1>Just can't trust anything online weird.

429
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<v Speaker 2>January sixteenth, Baldoni files a federal lawsuit in New York

430
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<v Speaker 2>against Lively, her husband Ryan Reynolds, her publicist Leslie Sloane,

431
00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and the firm Vision pr alleging his co star tormented him,

432
00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:44.920
<v Speaker 2>his family, his partners, falsely accusing him of sexual harassment

433
00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.279
<v Speaker 2>and using him as a scapegoat to dodge the narrative

434
00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:51.160
<v Speaker 2>press or the negative press surrounding. He also pushed back

435
00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:55.079
<v Speaker 2>on claims he sexually harassed her, instead claiming she calculatingly

436
00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:59.880
<v Speaker 2>devised fake stories to destroy his reputation. In Livelihood sees

437
00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:02.839
<v Speaker 2>control of the film he was directing and set out

438
00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:06.799
<v Speaker 2>to damage his career and Wayfarer Studios quote if they

439
00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:10.480
<v Speaker 2>did not bend to her incessant demands.

440
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<v Speaker 1>WHOA you're still going?

441
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, still going?

442
00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I know I haven't said a lot because there's still

443
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<v Speaker 1>so much more to cover. I guess.

444
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<v Speaker 2>January twenty first, Baldoni's legal team countered Lively's claims that

445
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<v Speaker 2>he acted inappropriately while filming a slow dance scene for

446
00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the film by releasing a ten minute video from the

447
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<v Speaker 2>set that includes three takes of the same scene, which

448
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<v Speaker 2>Baldoni's team says is the entirety of the footage shot

449
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<v Speaker 2>for that scene, during which Lively alleged in a lawsuit

450
00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:46.960
<v Speaker 2>that Baldoni leaned forward and slowly dragged his lips from

451
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:50.400
<v Speaker 2>her ear and down her neck as he said it

452
00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>smells so good. The footage shows a similar interaction where

453
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<v Speaker 2>where Baldoni is seen nuzzling her neck and she says,

454
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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably getting spray tan on you, to which he

455
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<v Speaker 2>respond it smells good. Lively's team says the footage fully

456
00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.079
<v Speaker 2>corroborates her account, and any woman who has been inappropriately

457
00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:14.680
<v Speaker 2>inappropriately touched in the workplace will recognize miss Lively's discomfort.

458
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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen that video, Baldoni's lawyer said. The footage

459
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<v Speaker 2>proves both actors clearly behaved well within the scope of

460
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<v Speaker 2>the scene, with mutual respect and professionalism.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Because then later on you'll fast forward and find his

462
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<v Speaker 1>other allegation about the intimacy coordinator and the meetings she's

463
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<v Speaker 1>skipped out.

464
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<v Speaker 2>On January twenty seventh, Daily Mail publishes a nearly seven

465
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<v Speaker 2>minute voice note. It says Baldoni sent to Lively at

466
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<v Speaker 2>two am during the filming of the movie, in which

467
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<v Speaker 2>he allegedly apologizes for not being open enough to script

468
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.839
<v Speaker 2>changes that she made, admitting he is a very flawed man,

469
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and makes a reference to her breastfeeding her then newborn child.

470
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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of weird.

471
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<v Speaker 1>It's it because I listen. I think I listened to

472
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<v Speaker 1>almost the entire seven minutes of it, and I believe

473
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.480
<v Speaker 1>what he was discussing is her talking about coming into

474
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<v Speaker 1>her dressing room and when she was unclothed and things

475
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:11.640
<v Speaker 1>like that. And he is alleging that she invited him in,

476
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:13.880
<v Speaker 1>that he had told her exactly what he wanted to

477
00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:17.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about, and then suddenly that changed for her and

478
00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.119
<v Speaker 1>put him in this negative light when he was doing

479
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<v Speaker 1>everything in his power to make sure that he wasn't

480
00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:23.599
<v Speaker 1>making her uncomfortable and was talking about things that needed

481
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<v Speaker 1>to happen with the movie as quickly as possible.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'd another update on January twenty seventh, like multiple

483
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<v Speaker 2>things every.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Day say I've been doing I mean every single day,

485
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I was doing this on my shows. It was so absurd.

486
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<v Speaker 2>Lyman told Lively and Baldoni's lawyers to prepare for a

487
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<v Speaker 2>March ninth, twenty twenty sixth, trial date and set a

488
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<v Speaker 2>pre trial conference to discuss, among other things, complaints from

489
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<v Speaker 2>Lively's teams about the conduct of Baldoni's lawyer. Lively's lawyers

490
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.920
<v Speaker 2>have claimed that Friedman, Baldoni's lawyer, is trying to paint

491
00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:01.799
<v Speaker 2>potential jurors by creating a website to release communication between

492
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:04.160
<v Speaker 2>the two actors and documents from the set, and accused

493
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:07.960
<v Speaker 2>him of making an endless stream of defamatory and extra

494
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.799
<v Speaker 2>judicial media statements. Please make the website. We would love

495
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:13.599
<v Speaker 2>a place where we can get all of this in one.

496
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<v Speaker 1>So he did. He published it over the weekend this weekend,

497
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>this past weekend. I believe it's just called like because

498
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>that was what was a big topic in the court

499
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>hearing on Monday.

500
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<v Speaker 2>January twenty ninth. Hollywood Reporter cites unnamed sources in reporting

501
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:35.200
<v Speaker 2>that Baldoni has lost three jobs and hundreds of millions

502
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:38.599
<v Speaker 2>of dollars since Lively first filed the suit against him

503
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:42.160
<v Speaker 2>in December, and that an in the works pac Man

504
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:45.440
<v Speaker 2>movie project he was set to direct is now in jeopardy.

505
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:51.880
<v Speaker 2>January thirtieth, lawyers for Lively and Reynolds set in a

506
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:55.359
<v Speaker 2>letter to Lyneman that they planned to move to dismiss

507
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the lawsuit filed against them at a pre trial conference

508
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<v Speaker 2>scheduled for Monday February Yesterday, yes February first, Baldoni's team

509
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:08.039
<v Speaker 2>published a website dedicated to supporting his lawsuit against Lively

510
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>and Reynolds that links to an amended complaint filed on

511
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 2>January thirty first. It contains a timeline of the events

512
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 2>outlining what he says happened on the set of It

513
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Ends with Us, including corresponding text messages, emails, and a

514
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.640
<v Speaker 2>statement Baldoni has said he was pressured into releasing by

515
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Reynolds and Lively that would have seen him take the

516
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 2>blame for quote troubled production of the movie. He refused

517
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 2>to put out that statement. In addition, he released a

518
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 2>text message exchange with Lively that showed she chose not

519
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 2>to meet with an on set intimacy coordinator that he

520
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>had hired, leaving him to relay uncomfortable information from the

521
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:48.839
<v Speaker 2>meeting on his own.

522
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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to find the name of the website because

523
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:54.799
<v Speaker 1>it's just so, it's.

524
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<v Speaker 2>Like February third, this is yesterday. New York Federal Judge

525
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Lewis J. Lyman told lawyers for Lively and Baldoni that

526
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.599
<v Speaker 2>he would move up the trial date set for March

527
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six, if the case continued to be litigated

528
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.799
<v Speaker 2>in the press. Lyman ordered both sides to adhere to

529
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the New York Roles of Professional Conduct, which stops lawyers

530
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:23.880
<v Speaker 2>from making public comments that have a substantial likelihood of

531
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 2>tainting a jury, but stopped short of sanctioning Baldoni's attorney,

532
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Brian Friedman, despite claims from Lively's team that he has

533
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>gotten close to defaming her and has made extra judicial

534
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>statements about her and her character.

535
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>The lawsuit info dot com he published everything over and so,

536
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and now that judge was threatening to move the trial up,

537
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, then you guys won't have the time

538
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 1>necessary maybe and you'll find a duram. We'll figure this

539
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.319
<v Speaker 1>out out it is And all of that went own

540
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>in like six weeks. Incredible there, And there's so many

541
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>other things like what he was saying. His wife came

542
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:13.279
<v Speaker 1>out in support of him. He had other people that

543
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:16.079
<v Speaker 1>were showing text messages to them about things like when

544
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>he was trapped down in this basement at the Red

545
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Carpet premiere. Colleen Hoover left Instagram. Yeah, Colleen left Instagram

546
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>because of all the commentary.

547
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Because she couldn't handle it. And at first she had

548
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>been like really really supportive of Blake Lively, and she

549
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.839
<v Speaker 2>had come out and said like she was great. She's

550
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.160
<v Speaker 2>exactly who we wanted. She was exactly the person you

551
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>would want to be handling this type of content. And

552
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I did think it was a little bit weird that

553
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>on both sides they had such a complete and succinct

554
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>record of everything that had happened and when it had happened, Like,

555
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:51.480
<v Speaker 2>is that just like a normal thing people do on

556
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:54.519
<v Speaker 2>movies now to protect themselves, which is just like, why

557
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>don't you I yeah, I guess I don't work in

558
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the business, so I don't know. But I saw online

559
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 2>a person speculating that it was Justin Baldoni's wife who

560
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>had kind of sniffed Blake Lively out right away and said,

561
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>you need to make sure you'd document everything on this one.

562
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 2>It's so, of course, we don't know if that's true.

563
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<v Speaker 1>Right right. Taylor Swift was mentioned in a lawsuit, even

564
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>though she was not being sued, that there was some

565
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 1>conversation paraphrasing about Blake using her dragons to take him down.

566
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<v Speaker 2>I don't care how close we are as friends. I

567
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>would I got a short list of people I would

568
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:37.640
<v Speaker 2>take a bullet for.

569
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right.

570
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>But if you were embroiled in a high profile lawsuit

571
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:46.119
<v Speaker 2>and you were speaking about me as if you were

572
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Kalisi and I was one of your dragons, I might

573
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 2>call you and be like.

574
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<v Speaker 1>What the not? Not the look? Not the look. Even

575
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.279
<v Speaker 1>though I did goes Clacy for Halloween one year, I

576
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>did have dragons, I would never not in a legal setting.

577
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I bet they weren't Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds.

578
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>No, none at all, not at all. But there's so

579
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 1>much there.

580
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 2>And then it came out that Taylor Swift was allegedly

581
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 2>again this is all speculation because Hollywood.

582
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>All speculative and we don't want to get sued, but.

583
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Was possibly distancing herself from Blake Lively because she felt

584
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 2>a little bit used in all of this. And then

585
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, we have seen Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds

586
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>together or separately with Taylor Swift at some NFL games,

587
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, you know they weren't there.

588
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Are they invited to this football game we got coming up?

589
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Or won't they be there? That's one of the prop

590
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 2>bets I saw.

591
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh really, well, that's interesting, And I mean, who even

592
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:58.559
<v Speaker 1>knows what changes when this gets posted? Like right, our

593
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>pod usually hits on a Friday, we're talking about this,

594
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 1>and that could there could still be so much in

595
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:05.519
<v Speaker 1>a couple days.

596
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 2>So here's the question. You haven't seen the movie. I

597
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen the movie. When there is this much scandal

598
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 2>around a movie, does it make you want to go

599
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:16.240
<v Speaker 2>watch it even a little bit?

600
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It makes me want to watch it less right, It

601
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 1>really does. And I think that was an unintentional when

602
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>you hear this saying no, all press is good press,

603
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>no such thing as bad press, I very much disagree,

604
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 1>because most of the people I know and my friends

605
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna see it are like, I don't think

606
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you could watch it anymore without feeling so cringey about

607
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>what is happening behind the scenes, especially given the subject matter.

608
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 1>If this is a comedy we're talking about, and it's like, oh,

609
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the actors are fighting whatever funny movie, not this, not

610
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>this one, And I have absolutely zero desire. And Netflix

611
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>keeps trying to serve it to me. You love this,

612
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 1>you would love this. I'm like, I don't think I would.

613
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Book was enough for me. This is really unfortunate because

614
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it could could have been a really good movie.

615
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:04.759
<v Speaker 1>It was a good book.

616
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 2>And I haven't seen Blake Lively. I haven't seen paparazzi

617
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>photos of her. I haven't seen her photographed out and

618
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 2>about everywhere. So maybe she's just kind of chilling at

619
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.240
<v Speaker 2>home and like taking some time to ride this out

620
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.599
<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure it's overwhelming and I'm sure it's super stressful.

621
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 2>But I did see Ryan Reynolds was out the other

622
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>day and he was like photographed by a bunch of

623
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.200
<v Speaker 2>paparazzi like signing, hey, sure's.

624
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>The wit and surprised Hugh Jackman at his think he's

625
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.359
<v Speaker 1>doing something on Broadway right now, and isn't that awful,

626
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:36.839
<v Speaker 1>because like I looked at the video and I was like,

627
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>alhwa's trying so hard to be nice. But you also

628
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>have been in this industry long enough where you know

629
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.559
<v Speaker 1>that it's very important to create a public image, especially

630
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>one that may have been tainted by whatever is happening.

631
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<v Speaker 1>Right I don't know, it's so it sounds terrible and

632
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<v Speaker 1>they both have kids too, and you're just like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in Google this sooner rather than later, just know everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think about that aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I always do with celebrities that have kids. I'm like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good luck.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's messy, and it's just like it's the spectacle

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<v Speaker 2>of the moment right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever feel bad about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like the Johnny Depp and Amber heard stuff like

641
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<v Speaker 2>everybody was glued to the TV watching that and I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't watch the trial because I was like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is like really sensitive information that they are talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>This stuff happened. When you're a celebrity like that, you

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<v Speaker 2>probably have to have such a tight inner circle, like

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<v Speaker 2>there are maybe a handful of people that you can

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<v Speaker 2>truly be yourself around, and you would hope that your

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<v Speaker 2>significant other, the person that you love and for all

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<v Speaker 2>intents and purposes will spend the rest of your life with,

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<v Speaker 2>would be one of those people where you can let

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<v Speaker 2>the mask down right and do and then all of

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<v Speaker 2>those things, all of those moments that you think are

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<v Speaker 2>like private and like they won't tell we have an

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<v Speaker 2>understanding then they're all public and anybody can watch that trial. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that is just that is my not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's thy marige for you all to realize what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually like? Yes, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Worst case scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great rundown. Though well done it. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you researched that it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was all all out of it. I got a shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to Forbes. There's so much other stuff like surrounding this,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like it is so day by day, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's so confusing and there's so much and that's because

665
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<v Speaker 2>there's so much happening every day, there's multiple things happening

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<v Speaker 2>in the course of twenty four hours. With this, it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to keep up. So I wanted to like sift

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<v Speaker 2>through it for myself, but also so I could tell

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<v Speaker 2>my sister what was going on, like she was a

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<v Speaker 2>five year old.

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<v Speaker 1>And once again, just so much money.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so much it's so much stuff happening, but

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<v Speaker 2>also nothing's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you should be a reporter on this. That's perfectly said.

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<v Speaker 1>So much is happening and yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet nothing. I don't think this has moved forward

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<v Speaker 2>aside from the like I think one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>developments was the judge setting a trial date March of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six. Twenty six, y'all, more than a year away.

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<v Speaker 2>That's too much. That is too much runway for something

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<v Speaker 2>else to happen. Number one, It's just it's too much

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<v Speaker 2>time for PR companies to scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh good word right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, spin or do whatever they need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild anyway, now that your brain is also melting

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<v Speaker 1>out of your ears, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like it, Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't something that I want to take up any

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<v Speaker 2>brain space with, and yet here we are, but I

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<v Speaker 2>still don't want to see the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope. Sorry, Netflix,
