WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:07.320 My dog. 4 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:09.320 We're flying through the air over the tree. I don't 5 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:14.400 know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. 6 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:16.480 All I saw was my dog coming over the fence 7 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:18.239 and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like, 8 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:20.160 I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my 9 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:38.960 dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are you putting? 10 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:43.759 We got some wonder or something crawling around out here? 11 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Did you see what it was or was it was? 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now 13 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:58.600 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus, 14 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:05.480 quice you better or hello? Hit somebody out here when 15 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:08.480 I'm out there. It's good of a venture about text nine. 16 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.400 I don't know out there? Yeah, I'm walking right ay, I. 17 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:13.920 Booked on a walk of My guest to the show. 18 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:19.000 It is author and researcher George Mitrovic, coming from across 19 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:21.640 the Pond in Australia. Welcome to the show, sir. 20 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:24.879 Hello, how are you? Would you believe I've forgotten your 21 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:28.719 name already? I'm tapeless with people's names. I feel like 22 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.079 a big ball run, but I'm used to that. I 23 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:33.879 just asked to introduce the guy next to me years ago, 24 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:35.799 and I looked to him as I've got no idea 25 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:37.799 what your name is. That I'm a brother, you idiot. 26 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:41.799 Oh okay, that's the way my brain works. And then 27 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:45.280 you ask me about some by barthrocking every single part 28 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:48.879 of it. I'm a researcher, an author, and it's raal Blazer. 29 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:53.120 They've published over one hundred and forty books since twenty 30 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:58.280 twelve whilst working full time. I'm nearly seventy. I get 31 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:02.040 into a lot of prophecy with people because I don't 32 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.680 have a hypothesis and charge in and find ways of 33 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:09.039 proving it. I let the data prove and bring up 34 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.919 whatever hypothesis at wants, and some of them can be 35 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:16.879 quite start. One of my favorite subjects is our bloved 36 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:21.680 friend Bigfoot, a sasquatch or Harry Homidd, whatever you want 37 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:22.159 to call it. 38 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:24.719 Let's get into that. Let's talk a little bit about Bigfoot. 39 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:27.680 Let's talk about what got you interested it in the subject. 40 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:31.039 To begin with, I've always been interested in strange mysteries, 41 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:35.520 weird archaeology, stuff like that. My brother was only mentioning 42 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:37.840 to me other day. They said, I still remember you 43 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:40.319 dogging on the piano when you were five. I said, 44 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:43.080 I know, it's horrendous, and I figure I remember wailing 45 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:46.280 about it at the same time. What five year old 46 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:49.800 does that. By seven, I was reading the aa Yendi Letters, 47 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:54.319 which is about the Philadelphia Experiment. I started gathering books 48 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:56.159 and there was a really good bookshop in the Australia 49 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:59.319 event called the Ada Bookshop. It's been closed for years now, 50 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.639 and I got some amazing books from there. And one 51 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:06.319 thing my parents did, they spoiled me rotten with books. 52 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.199 I read the Entact of Peter Britannic and by the 53 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.000 time I was five. But it was helped by the 54 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:14.520 fact that I was most tatly crippled from a car 55 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:18.680 accident and couldn't do anything else. I'm fine now apart 56 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:20.800 from old age. But I think it's what got is 57 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.400 going and looking in every other direction. Most people don't 58 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:28.680 have a chance to whilst looking through every mystery on Earth. 59 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:32.199 I don't like mysteries. They annoy me. Every mystery is 60 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:35.360 a question. Every question needs an answer, and I'll give 61 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.360 you the answer. I met Bigfoot along the way the 62 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:43.439 American Bigfoot. I met him for Ivan Sanderson's works brilliant 63 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.960 often the founder of cryptozoologies, you would know along with 64 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:50.400 Burned her Woman's and his book Bequests for the Sea 65 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:54.439 Serpent was pretty amazing too. And I met Bigfoot and 66 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:58.240 I met the frozen Minnesota Iceman. Did he exist? They 67 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:02.280 did not exist? Hang on. I have a books I've 68 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:05.919 read have mentioned them in China, in Asia and the 69 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:10.240 Himalayas in South America. I hadn't heard of any in 70 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.479 Australia yet of that time. I's only it's seven or eight, 71 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:18.680 and I thought, let's look at bigfoots. I've had arguments 72 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:22.920 with researchers. Since it's big feet, it's not bigfoots, or 73 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:27.160 it's a bigfoot lural. I've got benefitsative and argue, semantics. 74 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:29.399 Call it what you want, call it late for dinner. 75 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.319 I really don't care. Just don't call me late for dinner. 76 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:34.480 You can call me anything else. And they've been called 77 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:39.399 lots of things. I wanted to know who is Bigfoot? 78 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:44.079 Who is this large cryptid preacher? And in those days 79 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.759 we only fought of them as wandering up and down 80 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:51.879 the Great Forest Melts Washington, Iregon, Northern California, so I 81 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:57.040 started to gathering books. I had these old compositors tables 82 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.519 from printing when they used to use little eyes, and 83 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.639 they each had a slot. Each of those was twenty 84 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:08.759 four units long, which was eight z or z, and 85 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:12.120 so everything with a wait in thereb next to it. 86 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.839 It's amazing what you're mass when you start doing a 87 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:19.240 alphabetic I work on patterns. My brain works on patents. 88 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:22.600 You can't do anything else. Thank on. Look at what's 89 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:27.160 happening here. There aren't just big woods in West coast. 90 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:30.240 They're on the East coast, not that many in the 91 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.240 middle part because there aren't that many trees in the 92 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:38.079 middle part. This animal's designed to hide amongst big brown trees, 93 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:41.360 so it looks like a tree. They're built like a tree. 94 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:42.920 There ain't and a half to nine and a half 95 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:47.879 feet tall on average. Amongst sightings, they stink to higher heaven. 96 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:51.879 On most cases. They generally tend to become carnivores. Where 97 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:55.399 there is the Coombey ark crowd that says they're vegans 98 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:58.000 and peaceful, but I'm not sure how many of them 99 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:02.120 have actually approached one very close. But I'll leave into 100 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:07.040 their opinions as well. Is this a real creature. So 101 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:14.439 the advantage of going through thousands of is you sign themes. Yes, 102 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:18.120 I know, I'm a theme fanatic like you. The most 103 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:22.519 common theme, the most common theme in North American Bigfoot stories, 104 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:26.399 and of course North American authors don't bever mentioning it 105 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:30.759 very much or even regarded as having any significance. From Australia, 106 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:34.879 we'll write anything. I must remind you every single one 107 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:38.160 of my books as a bibliography, so you can chase 108 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:42.839 the paper trayal. These aren't my ideas, this isn't my data. 109 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:46.000 I'm just getting it for you, preserving it so it's 110 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:50.600 still here so it doesn't disappear. Simple story. Randy and 111 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:56.319 Andy young men, public college, late high school, driving around 112 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:58.160 at two o'clock in the morning. I may have had 113 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:00.519 a couple of beers. They may not have had a 114 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.040 couple of beers. They reach that point of the drive 115 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:06.759 in the woods for the forest, it's time to get 116 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:10.839 out to relieve themselves. A lovely euphemism. We don't use 117 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.680 that one in Australia, but this is a family program. 118 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:21.839 Sol sticktivate euphemism. Next second, something is yelling, screaming, jumping, throwing, rocks, 119 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:27.160 throwing wood, carrying on like a banshee, red eyes blazing, 120 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:32.360 full height grown, And of course when afropoints get excited, 121 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:36.639 their first stands out. That looks even bigger. They're saying, 122 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:40.560 he is pierced off. Complately, Brandy and Andy, mysteriously enough, 123 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:45.000 have stopped relieving themselves and got back to their car 124 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:47.959 very quickly. And you say, what's out about. That's just 125 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.519 a bigfoot carrying on. No, that is a bigfoot for 126 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:59.560 reacting two two homined creatures. Yes, we are hominids urinating 127 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:02.600 on its territory, which to the bigfoot means I am 128 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:07.160 faming your territory. It's no longer yours. You try doing 129 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.480 that in the April Monkey House at the zoo. You'll 130 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:14.160 get the same response. If you go and makes the chimps, 131 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.839 they won't be gentle at all. It won't be just 132 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.800 a stern warning. It'll be God help you, because you'll 133 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:24.399 need one. So if what that's interesting, that's hormon and 134 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.959 anthropology one O one it's basics for apes and monkeys, 135 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:35.080 and another little one another common theme. Randy and not Andy, 136 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:38.039 but Randy and Sheryl are deep in the woods on 137 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:42.159 a Friday night, it's dark, they're come together for warm 138 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.879 they're obviously studying for very SAPs. What else would they 139 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.759 be doing there? And they're busy doing whatever they're doing 140 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:52.960 there in the woods away from prying eyes, or so 141 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.679 they sing. The next second, there's his big hairy face 142 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:00.440 at the windscreen or a side window and tends to 143 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:04.720 freak out, so does Andy. Next time you see the 144 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:08.759 monkey cage or the ape page at the zoo or 145 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:12.879 the ape enclosure, it's what they like watching. It's not 146 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:16.639 the seven PM news. It's other monkeys doing the way 147 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:21.159 on thing because it the most natural physical process on earth. 148 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:24.120 How do you think we are got here? There's no 149 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:28.960 other technique known. Once again, this is anthropology one oh 150 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:34.679 one here. And then it's a large territorial animal, very 151 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:39.159 territorial animal, very wary of us, because every time we 152 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:42.080 seem to show up, we're trying to shoot it. So 153 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:45.480 they've learned the camouflage pretty well. They've learned to stay 154 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:49.080 away from us. And yet the thousands of reports. I've 155 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.559 just ordered a copy of nine books of mine in 156 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:55.679 one set, amazing big for the encounters of the United States, 157 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:59.039 state by states, some of the books having their own 158 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:03.320 books a state. It's three hundred and thirty one pages. 159 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.799 Someone's ever published. I published it two years ago. That's 160 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:10.799 a lot of bigfoots. Why is it then in the 161 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.759 United States, and in fact almost anywhere else has seen 162 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:18.200 on earth? Remember that's Randy and Andy. They've gone back. 163 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:21.519 They're going to fix this big barment. They're going to 164 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:24.279 go and get him. And they've got their guns, the 165 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.559 usual little small town American arsenal that you carried. And 166 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.320 they've been shooting squirrels since I'm a knee high to 167 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:34.159 a grasshopper. And they can shoot a squirrel at one 168 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:37.600 hundred yards, how can they can't hit a nine and 169 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.559 a half foot tour Harry Harmon at about twenty feet? 170 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:45.320 Did they suddenly get nervous? Why? How come they did 171 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.440 not hit fun? How come there is no record of 172 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.480 one hanging on a barn wall somewhere. I'm not a 173 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:54.399 very bright man. I have to give things very simple 174 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:59.960 to understand them. I've found five reports have shot big foot, 175 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:06.360 one in Canada in nineteen forty eight. Multiple pages doing 176 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:09.440 this set of books. I was just mentioning you can 177 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:12.200 get them on Amazon. In fact, I discovered there are 178 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:17.600 more bigfoot sightings around Los Angeles, and there are in 179 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:22.039 northern California, which is interesting. Like most Bigfoot sightings, I 180 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.799 tend to phase out once the trees disappear. Christie not 181 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:31.600 that finds animals, but there are some reports, but not many. 182 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:34.399 Being over in Australia. I was over in the United 183 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.519 Kingdom last summer to speak at a conference over there, 184 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.120 and I got out in the woods at a couple 185 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.440 of places out in the Summerset area in the UK. 186 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.559 I was shocked, honestly to see the type of forest 187 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:52.480 that they have there. They're very similar to what we 188 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:54.840 deal with. I'm in North Carolina here in the United States. 189 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.200 I've been in the Pacific Northwest. It's a little different 190 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:01.320 out in Washington State obviously, but it was very similar. 191 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:06.320 And there are people who claim to have encounters with Sasquatch, 192 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:10.279 Bigfoot in the United Kingdom and obviously the Yowie in Australia. 193 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:14.039 Over the years, Have there been any stories that you 194 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:17.279 have researched or found, whether it be in the United Kingdom, 195 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.720 whether it be in Australia or just around the world 196 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:22.799 that stuck out to you and your research that you 197 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.159 found more credible or something extraordinary about them. 198 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:29.360 Is there only one credible story I've found, and it's 199 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:34.000 credible because it was relating into an incident. I'd have 200 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:37.759 to read it. I love it. This is an incident 201 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:41.600 in nineteen fifty five in a little place near Lawrenceburg 202 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:46.600 and Tennessee. It's written by an American Indian woman. Fifty 203 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:49.759 five years later, around two thousand and eight. It has 204 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:54.039 been published nineteen fifty five. In those times, no one 205 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:59.120 talked about Bigfoot. About for the American Indians, the indigenous populations. 206 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:02.440 I didn't figet the East coast. It's almost got as 207 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:06.399 many Bigfoot reports, but with lot more names. I just 208 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:09.000 want to read this to you. My apologies for my 209 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:13.600 bad American accent. This was fifty three years ago. It 210 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:17.360 was in Ethridge, Tennessee. I don't remember how to get 211 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:20.600 back to the old farm place, but even if I did, 212 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:23.840 it is not the same anymore. So much land as 213 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:28.279 being cleared. Hello all, I'm a fifty six year old woman, 214 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.279 but has never gave a second thought to the life 215 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:33.799 of what people call him Bigfoot. I knew him as 216 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:37.480 Whistling Paddy as a child. That is what my grandparents 217 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:40.960 and all the neighbors called him. Our neighbors were few 218 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:44.279 and far between that every one of them knew for 219 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:48.200 whistling Paddy. That is what they called him. I myself 220 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.559 can remember his screaming and whistling sounds as a child. 221 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:54.879 We lived in the deep woods in Ethridge, Tennessee, with 222 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:58.840 no electricity or indoor plumbing. Who was always around and 223 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:00.799 we were used to his sound until he came for 224 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:04.720 scraps at night. He did not eat any meat, only 225 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:08.159 peeling some potatoes and have a binge. He or she 226 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:10.960 was white with red eyes, as I know some folks 227 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:15.720 that called albillino. I guess my grandparents are not learned people. 228 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.679 They could not read or write. They had to sign 229 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:21.360 with an X. But I knew he was real. They 230 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:25.039 did not fear him. I saw him or her lots 231 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.840 of times. My aunt Wi lived about a mile away, 232 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.080 opened their back door one night to throw out a 233 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:33.360 dishwater and threw it on Paddy because he was standing 234 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:36.200 at the back door. It did not scare her because 235 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:38.799 she was used to it, although she had nine children. 236 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.360 She went and got some potatoes and gave him. He 237 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:45.440 was hungry. This's Paddy was about seven to eight feet 238 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.440 tall and did not ever hurt anyone. I'd like to 239 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:50.600 know if anyone else has ever heard one called a 240 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.600 whistling Paddy, because that is what he was called when 241 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:56.799 I was a small child growing up in those woods, 242 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.000 and we did not fear him, but we had to 243 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:02.679 come inside right before dark because Mama would say, Paddy 244 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:05.639 is out here and we can't trust him. We don't 245 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:06.480 know who he is. 246 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:10.840 And stay tuned for more sasquatch arleousy. We'll be right 247 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:12.360 back after these messages. 248 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:18.919 If anyone else Evan knew have a bigfoot that was 249 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:22.120 called by the name of whistling Paddy, I'd like to know. 250 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:26.879 My grandparents were Indian. I knew many things, but we're 251 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:29.600 not smart when it came to the real world. I 252 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:31.919 knew how to get by with ten children, I live 253 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.120 a good life in the woods, and how spiderwebs packed 254 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:38.159 into a wound would stop bleeding. They knew as I did. 255 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.480 Paddy was real. He would tear bark off the trees 256 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:44.240 and by young uncles and tree houses built in My 257 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:47.120 uncles are still alive. They could tell more than me. 258 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.840 Everyone who lived in this area knew Paddy. He would 259 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:54.799 always come at dusky dark, never bright daylight. It was 260 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.440 hardwood forest towards. All around there was whiskey stills in 261 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:03.080 the woods by Grandpa had one also always as a child. 262 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:06.360 Neighbors would come sometimes and tell about the Paddy was 263 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:08.679 at their house or in the woods behind the house, 264 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:11.840 or the other night. They gave him food too, even 265 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:14.679 if it was just potato feelings. It would take it. 266 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.480 We were poor people and cooked out feelings for the 267 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:22.159 family to eat. My mum always made sure we had 268 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.559 a full belly, the same something for Paddy. I love 269 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:32.679 the elegant simplicity. There's nothing made up, there's nothing fatsful 270 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:36.440 about it. It gives great credits in the retelling. I've 271 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:40.159 also left the grammar and spelling, which is quite amazing. Intact, 272 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:45.279 it's such a wonderful sighting, full of originality and spirit, 273 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:48.279 and it is my favorite Bigfoot sighting. I know it 274 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.320 went on for a while. It is pure from the heart. 275 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:55.200 No one made better and that's it. It really gets 276 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:58.879 to you. You can visualize it in the deep woods 277 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:02.120 of Tennessee. Around there treach is as far as I know, 278 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:05.839 it's still pretty wild. Is she s too far from you? Actually? Yeah? 279 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:09.359 Tennessee's only a few hours away from here. That's one 280 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.640 of the interesting things about this phenomenon. I have always 281 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.200 been a very skeptical person when it comes to Bigfoot. 282 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:18.839 Just recently last summer, I had my own encounters. I 283 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:20.720 was out in the Pacific Northwest. I got to see 284 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:23.880 these things three times in two days. And I am 285 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:27.359 now a knower. So I am more in the camp 286 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:32.240 of trying to figure out what these things are, why 287 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:36.880 we can't prove them with science. Why it seems that, 288 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:40.400 as you alluded to earlier, you've got multiple volumes of 289 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:43.440 all of these encounters. This is an encounter's based podcast. 290 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:46.200 At this point, I'm over six hundred episodes in. I've 291 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:49.839 probably interviewed a thousand people at this point face to face, 292 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:52.519 either on the show or at a conference or a 293 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:55.160 festival or a convention or a book signing, that have 294 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:56.319 had encounters. 295 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:56.640 With these creatures. 296 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:01.440 Yet, very much to your point earlier, nobody's ever shot one. 297 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:03.720 We don't have a body that we know of. There's 298 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.119 some conspiracy theories out there that think they may be 299 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:08.359 at the Smithsonian. They're in the basement with all the 300 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.720 other things that people know about. Don't forget the giants 301 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:14.799 exactly the red hair giants that I don't think ever 302 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.720 truly exist in the Lovelock Caves. There's so many different things. 303 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:21.079 Let me ask you this, and you're research and looking 304 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:23.559 into this, why do you think it is that we 305 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:27.599 do have such a problem even though there's so many 306 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:31.240 anecdotal experiences that people relate to people like me, you, 307 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:36.559 and other repositories for this kind of information, Yet these 308 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:42.039 things remain so elusive that we can't prove them scientifically 309 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.319 and get them recognized by science. Why do you think 310 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.799 that is? Do you have a theory on what could 311 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:48.640 be going on there? 312 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:51.640 I didn't have a theory. I have an observation of 313 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:54.920 a practice. When you go to high school, you learn 314 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:58.799 based on the curricula given to you by academia. When 315 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:04.079 you go into academic to develop your powers or your skills, 316 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:07.519 you were still limited by the academia that sent you 317 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:10.079 in there. And if you don't answer their questions the 318 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:13.079 way they want it, you don't get tenure, you don't 319 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:16.920 get a job to enforced fair guideline. Because if they 320 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:21.279 suddenly said, oh, we've decided to actually analyze this data 321 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:26.160 for hair scrapings and the odd bit of bigfoot we've 322 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:30.720 found over the years. It's actually real. Holy Mother of God, 323 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.079 it means we've got to include everything. Before you know it, 324 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:38.920 they're bringing out supercubra bodies and gargoyles from the Midwest Texas. 325 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:43.279 It would destroy their paradigm that they've worked so hard 326 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:46.720 to keep constructed. I'll give you a simple analogy. It's 327 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:49.440 not a big Foot analogy. I'll give you a simple analogy. 328 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:53.359 Have you heard of Lewis Leaky. Lewis Leaky was the 329 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:58.920 greatest paleontologist that ever lived. He discovered Lucy and the 330 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:04.640 Old Gorge ten plus other eightient commoned fossils. He was 331 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:08.720 the expert. He wrote for books. He established for science 332 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:13.160 that humans were around millions of years ago, in various forms, 333 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:17.079 all happily evolving away. His books are here's the boss. 334 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:20.119 He knows what he's talking about. He went to North 335 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:24.640 America for a visit. He visited Calico in Texas and 336 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:29.119 another sight in California. Were shown little stone tools called 337 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:33.359 elists saw them here, and he declared and published that 338 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.400 these were eolifs. These they're exactly the same as the 339 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:41.279 ones he found in Africa. But American academia said no, 340 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:46.960 don't exist now was here before eighteen thousand BC. Excuse me. 341 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:49.920 This is the prime person in charge of all of 342 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:54.319 this in the world, and American academia says, no, you're wrong. 343 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:58.559 It depends on who's protecting whose turf. I bite the 344 00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:01.720 American academic turf quite often. I've been running an argument 345 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:05.119 with one lately, and God, they got annoyed when they'd argue, 346 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:08.759 and all I kept giving them was science articles from 347 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:14.640 proper respect to academic sources refuting their arguments. Because my 348 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:19.359 research has found remains of ancient man mammos with spear 349 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:22.880 points in Puebla State south of Mexico City, at a 350 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.599 quarter of a million years old. My books are full 351 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:28.200 of them. That's why I also bibiography. Do you want 352 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:31.599 to argue with me, argue with the knowledge train, because 353 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:35.960 I will argue knowledge has to be promoted, it has 354 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:40.000 to be saying. That's how I answer that question. It's 355 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:45.680 our job to continue collecting data. I need to learn 356 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.279 what these people have done. How I've written in all 357 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:53.200 my books on bigfooted monsters. I know your grandma went 358 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:56.440 out and she saw something, but you forgot to mention 359 00:21:56.599 --> 00:21:59.440 where and when, which means that bit of data is 360 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:03.839 totally useless. It's of no use. I can't find anything 361 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:06.079 about it. I can't find it for a number fifty 362 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:09.279 within a mile of it. I can't find passage. But 363 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:12.640 that's only from my viewpoint of finding somebody off. But 364 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.799 write a book on how us similarities of big food. 365 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:19.599 I've never met one that they might. So that's my answer. 366 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:22.119 Let's talk a little bit about some of the patterns 367 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:25.200 because that comes up. You mentioned one earlier. You mentioned 368 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.759 the smell in a lot of the encounters that people, 369 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:33.440 at least here in North America often talk about. Honestly, 370 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:36.119 for me, it's only been at about twenty to thirty 371 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:40.799 percent of the stories that people share as far as 372 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:44.240 their encounters where they either see something and or hear 373 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:46.599 something have some sort of encounter with what they believe 374 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:49.359 to be a sasquatch, but the smell is not there 375 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:52.440 in a lot of cases. Are there other patterns that 376 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.240 you have found as you've collected these encounters in these 377 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:58.640 stories for your books and your research. Are you finding 378 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:02.559 other patterns as far as as what these creatures look like, 379 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:05.000 some of the things that they do, the wood knocks, 380 00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:06.680 some of those things. Can you talk a little bit 381 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:09.240 about some of the patterns that you've discovered, and what 382 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:12.640 do you think contributes to some of those patterns. Do 383 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:16.559 you equate it to known primate and ape behavior? Is 384 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:18.200 that what you're looking at in those. 385 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.160 Patterns, remembering the primate behavior, it's just one of my 386 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:25.319 hands is for Bigfoot. It does get more confusing. It 387 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:28.640 was stick to that. Other animals bash rocks on things, 388 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:34.519 that's quite common. Other animals use voices to communicate with whistling. Paddy, 389 00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:38.920 so many reports of whistling Big Feet to each other. 390 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:43.319 Because a whistle carries further than a holla, it's a 391 00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:46.559 higher tone. You'll pick it up better. The creatures are 392 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:49.799 designed for the air environment. They build nests. Lots of 393 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:53.880 nests have been found, Lots of scatter's been found, and 394 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.359 I wouldn't like to go near anything that produced something 395 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.400 that large. When we generally find the scat and it's 396 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.559 not scat, it's not humans scat, it's not wolverine skat, 397 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:07.079 it says bloody big scatter. Something enormous has had a 398 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:10.759 big crap. If we want to put it into basic words. 399 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:13.960 As I said before, I'm not a very bright person. 400 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.759 I do have to keep things very simple. Bigfoot is 401 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:21.319