1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,679 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Next Level Soul podcast, where we ask 2 00:00:05,719 --> 00:00:09,240 the big questions about life. Why are we here? Is 3 00:00:09,279 --> 00:00:13,439 this all? There? Is? What is my soul's mission? We 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,079 attempt to answer those questions and more by bringing you 5 00:00:16,199 --> 00:00:19,879 raw and inspiring conversations with some of the most fascinating 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,399 and thought provoking guests on the planet. Today, I am 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,519 your host, Alex Ferrari. 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The views and opinions expressed in this 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,359 podcast are those of the guests and do not necessarily 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,519 reflect the views or positions of this show, its host, 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,879 or any of the companies they represent. There are moments 26 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:40,599 in your life where you run into people who will 27 00:01:40,719 --> 00:01:46,879 change forever your life's journey. Today's guest was that person 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,840 for me. We have on the show best selling author, 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:58,439 radio personality, internationally known business consultant and personal advisor, Kannie H. Deutsch. Now, 30 00:01:58,519 --> 00:02:02,359 Connie has not given a public interview for over a decade, 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,840 so I was very humbled and honored that she would 32 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:08,960 agree to be on the show. And we talked about 33 00:02:09,439 --> 00:02:13,080 the big questions of life. Why are we here? Is 34 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,159 this all there is? What is your soul's mission? The 35 00:02:17,319 --> 00:02:21,400 power of visualization and how it affects your life if 36 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,360 used properly. And we also do a little bit of 37 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,400 a deep dive into the famed Indian guru Paramhanza Yomananda 38 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:33,280 and how his life's work impacted both of our lives. 39 00:02:33,759 --> 00:02:37,360 He was an absolute pleasure speaking with Connie and her 40 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,800 insights and wisdom truly rocked me to the core of 41 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,319 my soul. So let's dive in. I like to welcome 42 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,520 to the show, Kanyie Deutschman. How are you doing, Connie? 43 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm doing right. How about you? 44 00:02:52,159 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic. Thank you so much for agreeing to 45 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,520 come on the show. I'm very, very excited because I've 46 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,759 known you now for a couple of years at least, 47 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,639 and we've worked together for many, many years, and I 48 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,840 wanted to talk about multiple topics. But for people who 49 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,800 don't know who you are, can you tell people a 50 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,199 little bit about your books, your career, what you've done 51 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:16,680 in the counseling and consulting world. 52 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a business consultant. I'm also personal advisor. I'm 53 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:31,599 also a counselor. I've written my thirteenth book now and 54 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,479 twelve of them are on Amazon, and I have a 55 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,560 publishing company, and I've written something like twelve hundred articles 56 00:03:39,879 --> 00:03:40,840 that have been published. 57 00:03:41,439 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: You've done plenty of stuff. You've been around, You've been around. 58 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: I was enough to have been around. 59 00:03:48,039 --> 00:03:53,599 Speaker 1: Absolutely Now, how did you fall into counseling and business consultation? 60 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: I think it was probably by accident. I'm not quite sure, 61 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,159 but I want to ask you something please. I mean, 62 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,319 Next Level Soul is a very evocative title. How did 63 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,919 you come up with that title? 64 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:15,159 Speaker 1: I was looking for a title, a brand, or something 65 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:17,639 that people could really understand what it was all about 66 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,160 pretty quickly. And I wanted to be something in the 67 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,920 spiritual space, something that would ask the big questions about life. 68 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,040 Because you know, from my other podcasts that are focused 69 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,600 more in the entertainment and film industries, I would dabble 70 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:33,920 in that in that audience, but I felt a little bit, 71 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,160 you know, I wanted to express myself and kind of 72 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:40,279 go and explore these topics in ways that I just 73 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:43,160 couldn't in my other show. So I wanted to kind 74 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,839 of create this new platform where I could reach out 75 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:48,800 and talk to, you know, guests like yourselves about deeper 76 00:04:48,879 --> 00:04:52,399 questions about life. Where I still love everything I do 77 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:56,480 in the film and entertainment industry, but I also want 78 00:04:56,519 --> 00:04:58,519 to go a little bit broader, a little bit bigger, 79 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,959 and see what we can do as far as answering 80 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,680 questions and helping people through this podcast and through the 81 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,000 work I do through that company. 82 00:05:07,959 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: Well, you are a very special person. I've always known 83 00:05:10,879 --> 00:05:14,600 that in the what twenty five years that I've known you, 84 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,319 something like that, something like that, and You've always been 85 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:20,920 very special and I've always felt that you had a 86 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,519 larger purpose in life than what you were doing. I 87 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,079 still feel that way. I still feel that you haven't 88 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:30,600 cracked the beginning of it yet. 89 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: I'm trying that just in the. 90 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: Beginning stages of it, and you're going to be a 91 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,040 huge success. 92 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: Because well, this is why I keep you around, kind 93 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,120 of to stroke my ego. 94 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not surge at your audiences. But your ego 95 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,120 isn't a bashing every time that you talk. 96 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,759 Speaker 1: To me, fair enough, that's also the truth. That's why 97 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:03,680 I was laughing. But yeah, thank you for that. But 98 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,560 I'm just trying to help people through the work that 99 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:10,879 I do, and I'm slowly discovering more about myself and 100 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,319 more about what I'm here to do. And originally it was, 101 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,040 you know, just one thing, and now it's a multitude 102 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,240 of things. And I've never been happier, and I've never 103 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,639 been able to help more people through the different channels 104 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,519 that I work through. It has been an experience, to 105 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,040 say the least, and the journey I know, in many 106 00:06:31,079 --> 00:06:32,120 ways is just beginning. 107 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,079 Speaker 2: Well, you asked me about how I started to counsel, 108 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,000 and everything really by accident. I woke up one day 109 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,800 and I said, is that old? There is a wife? 110 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,360 You know. I'm happy with what I do. I'm very contented. 111 00:06:48,759 --> 00:06:52,360 I have enough of an income to live within my means. 112 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,040 I don't require very much. I'm not a materialistic individual, 113 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,680 and I guess happy very easily. But there has to 114 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,199 be something greater than what I'm experiencing. I'm feeling like 115 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:11,160 I'm an avoid there's nothing else around me, just nothing. 116 00:07:11,839 --> 00:07:13,920 I can do this, I can do that, I can 117 00:07:13,959 --> 00:07:17,000 do the other thing. It's not feeling me. And then 118 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:20,319 I got my first person who came to me and 119 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:23,600 wanted to know what I saw for him. And I 120 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,639 didn't know what the hell he was talking about. And 121 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,800 he told me he was the CEO of a company 122 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:33,000 and he was very concerned about the overpopulation that we 123 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,800 were going through at that time, and he said, how 124 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:40,040 are we going to manage millions of people? And without 125 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,879 baddy and eyelash. I said, well, we're not going to 126 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,120 have to worry about that, because millions of people are 127 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,560 going to die he said, that is such a morbid thought. 128 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,079 You know, you wouldn't be ashamed of yourself, And I 129 00:07:52,279 --> 00:07:57,040 wasn't really meant to sincerely, And look what happened. We 130 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,360 have the pandemic. Where we have lost new is the 131 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:04,839 people around the world. Our population is nowhere near where 132 00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:08,199 we were expecting it to be. All of a sudden, 133 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,920 we don't have enough children being born. When I first 134 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,720 heard that many many years ago, that we need more children, 135 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,360 I thought to myself, we can't even be the children 136 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,680 we have. And now look, it's the children who are 137 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,399 going to be supporting the older people in the different 138 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,079 programs that are designed for older people of Social Security 139 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:35,080 perfect example, medicare another example. How are we going to 140 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:40,200 supply the needs if we don't have enough children who 141 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,080 are growing up and bringing money into the system. So 142 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,799 it's an ongoing things and I think that we have 143 00:08:47,919 --> 00:08:51,080 to have answers in the near future. And that's where 144 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:58,000 you're going to come into, Alex. You are going to 145 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:02,879 pave the road to let people know the larger picture. 146 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:05,519 God Willing, I'm not going to be around to see that. 147 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,879 I'm going to see it from the other side, and 148 00:09:07,919 --> 00:09:10,559 I'm going to laugh to myself and say, see, I 149 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,799 told you, I told you, And that's what's going to happen. 150 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,720 You're going to be one of the people who are 151 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:24,279 going to have this tremendous ability at mass communications. Right 152 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,200 now you're starting in the film industry. That's not the 153 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:30,240 be all and all for you. That's just the beginning, 154 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,279 and you're going to see many, many changes in the world, 155 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,320 some of which you are going to be the ones 156 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,440 who implement it. So get ready for that, because I 157 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,679 can feel it coming from you. Anyone who's around you 158 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,440 longer than five minutes is going to feel bad. There's 159 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,159 an energy about you that just reaches out to people, 160 00:09:54,159 --> 00:09:57,559 and I certainly felt that when I met you twenty 161 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,840 five years ago. I knew you were going to be 162 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,559 everything special. I knew you were special. It just took 163 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,919 you a little while to catch up. 164 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:09,919 Speaker 1: I'm a slow learner. As they say, no, you're not. 165 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:18,519 Speaker 2: Oh, you learn so quickly, you retain everything. I'm very 166 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,039 careful about what I say in front of you because 167 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,759 I know that the next time, knows how many years 168 00:10:23,799 --> 00:10:25,440 you're going to remember it for batim. 169 00:10:25,879 --> 00:10:26,639 Speaker 1: I tend to do that. 170 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: Yes you do, Yes I do. 171 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:34,159 Speaker 1: But when you're working with your clients. First of all, 172 00:10:34,159 --> 00:10:36,519 when you ask that question like is this all there is? 173 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,440 What was the answer that you came up with, Because 174 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,679 I'm sure that's a question that so many people around 175 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,080 the world have, which is like, is this all there is? 176 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,679 For me? Is this me getting up every morning, going 177 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,399 to work at a nine to five, running through the 178 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,639 rat rays, coming home, paying taxes? Maybe I have a 179 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,399 little fun on the weekends, and then you wake up 180 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,440 and then fifty years have gone by, and then a 181 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,200 little bit later you die. And that's a good case scenario. 182 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,480 A lot of people it made it's a lot worse. 183 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:09,519 So what was the answer that you came up with. 184 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:14,159 We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 185 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:19,320 and now back to the show. 186 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: With me. It was very simple. First of all, the 187 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:26,679 things that you were talking about never appealed to me. 188 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,279 I didn't go that route. My parents always said me, 189 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,679 no matter what I wanted, it was no, you can't 190 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,360 have it. And I'd say, but all the kids have it, 191 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,799 and they would say you were different. So all my 192 00:11:42,919 --> 00:11:46,279 life I kept hearing you were different, you are different, 193 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,799 You're different. Well, they taught me to think to myself, 194 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,879 to question everything, and not care about public opinion. And 195 00:11:53,919 --> 00:11:56,200 then they wondered why I was such a difficult child 196 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,159 to raise. And I've always been difficult, traverted by nature, 197 00:12:01,799 --> 00:12:06,159 very quiet for the most part, very withdrawn, and very private. 198 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,320 So for me, going on a show like this, which 199 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,039 is something that's very dear to my heart, is going 200 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,919 out of my comfort zone enormously. Yeah, it was about 201 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,039 many times. Yeah. 202 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:22,159 Speaker 1: I was going to say, you've been on multiple radio shows. 203 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,000 You had your own radio show for a long time. 204 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: Yep, a year and a half and coming to that 205 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,840 was an interesting situation. Program director of the radio station 206 00:12:34,279 --> 00:12:37,240 quit the job, and he a couple of years went 207 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,960 by and all of a sudden I got a phone 208 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,600 call from him. He said, I'm going with a new 209 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,120 radio station. It's a syndicated station that's around the country, 210 00:12:48,519 --> 00:12:52,480 and I want you on it with starting Friday morning 211 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,679 at nine o'clock, and you're going to be an Astrologerrata. 212 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,519 I don't know anything about astrology. He says, you have 213 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:04,960 between now, this is Monday. You have between now and 214 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:13,120 Friday to become an astrologer. And he hangs up the phone. Hasenstrologer. Okay, 215 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,080 and I run out to the store. Now astrology magazines 216 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,480 for those who have never had this experience, and I 217 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:26,480 didn't at that point. There's a different astrology magazine for 218 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:29,960 each month of the year, and that meant that I 219 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:35,360 had by twelve magazines. I bought them, came home, and 220 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,799 all the way home, I kept saying, I'm an astrologer, 221 00:13:37,879 --> 00:13:41,919 I'm an astrologer, I'm an astrologer, I'm an astrologer. I 222 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,559 had no idea what they've been and so I sat 223 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:50,559 down with these books and I said, okay, let's make charge. 224 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:53,120 At that time, I was living in the house that 225 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:58,799 had tremendous kitchens and a tremendous backsplash, so I could 226 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,000 pin things up. Now, I could tape them up on 227 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,440 on back wall, and I taped every month, every sign, 228 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:13,159 and all the things that were prominent because that month, well, 229 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:16,440 that week, whatever it was, and I taped them up 230 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:18,879 that I could just run from one to the other. 231 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:23,440 I'll give you an example. Good morning, Alex. What's your birthdate? 232 00:14:24,919 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: June twenty eight. 233 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,519 Speaker 2: June June twenty eight, So you're a cancer. You must 234 00:14:32,559 --> 00:14:38,440 be having a wonderful time you have going on this month. Oh, 235 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,200 you're going to be meeting people you've never met before. 236 00:14:42,639 --> 00:14:46,360 They're going to be very influential in your career. Have 237 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,200 you met the me yet? Not yet, They're coming this week. 238 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,840 You're going to be meeting them. And this is the 239 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,919 way I started each week with someone saying their birth 240 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,519 date and me running to that sign on the wall. 241 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,879 I was talking about it and it was like, Oh 242 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:13,240 my god, I really do best. I'm an astrologer. I'm 243 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,240 an astrologer. I'm an astrologier. Oh, I kept thinking, I'm 244 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,919 an astrologist and the words just flew out of my mouth. 245 00:15:21,399 --> 00:15:25,639 Apparently nobody questioned it. They will want to know better, 246 00:15:25,679 --> 00:15:28,840 their birthdate is best, And I kept running from one 247 00:15:29,039 --> 00:15:31,799 sign to the next time on the on the wall, 248 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,399 and I'm an astrologist. 249 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm an astrologist. Sure, you basically just became one out 250 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,600 of just saying that you were. 251 00:15:40,879 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: That's exactly what is and that is part of the 252 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,759 visualization that I wanted to talk about. 253 00:15:47,559 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what is your definition of visualization? Because visualization 254 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,279 is something that is extremely powerful and important in our 255 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,080 lives and some people athletes do it all the time. 256 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:01,799 You know, people at high levels do it all the 257 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,879 time in every aspect of life. They do it. What 258 00:16:05,039 --> 00:16:05,960 is your definition of. 259 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: Visualization, It'd be the same as anyone else's. Actually, okay, 260 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,759 what it is a tremendous focus. One of my clients 261 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,039 quote and I told her her husband was dying and 262 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,320 she was praying, and I said, well about visualizing. He says, Oh, 263 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,679 I visualized every single day. I said, would you please 264 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:30,919 walk me through it? Whatever you do, walk me through it. 265 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,200 If she started and I stopped her, that's not visualization. 266 00:16:35,639 --> 00:16:39,720 That's a waundry list of things. When you visualize, you 267 00:16:39,879 --> 00:16:45,440 have to focus entirely on one thing and nothing else. 268 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:49,840 But it has to be such intense focus that nothing 269 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,679 interferes and has to be with everything inside of You 270 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,440 have to have that determination, You have to have that perseverance, 271 00:16:58,879 --> 00:17:02,480 You have to have that g Everything has to be focused. 272 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,359 You can't think of another thing because it's going to happen. 273 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,359 Yoga Nanda is world famous as a yogi, said that 274 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:17,000 miracles are just the rearrangements of atoms and molecules, and 275 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,160 that's what you have to do. You have to rearrange 276 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,799 those atoms and molecules. 277 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: So for people who don't know who paramhasa Yogananda is, 278 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:27,119 can you talk a little bit about who he is 279 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:29,240 and his impact on your life and career. 280 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: He had the most tremendous impact on my career and 281 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,920 my life that I've ever experienced. He said, if you 282 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:41,240 don't like your life, change it. If you don't like 283 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:45,599 your karma, change it. Now. In all years, I had 284 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,160 never heard that karma could be changed. You know, you've 285 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,839 done something in the past life. You're going to have 286 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,480 retribution in this life. That's what you're here for. I 287 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:58,440 was wrong. He was right. I said, Okay, I'll give 288 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:01,920 his a shot and see how I can change it. 289 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:06,119 And I changed my life considerably. I got rid of 290 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:10,599 everything that was not important. I heard this voice inside 291 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,480 of me, very soft, still voice, saying, simplify your life, 292 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,759 and Alex, my life was so simple at that time. 293 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,079 I couldn't think of anything more to simplify. And in 294 00:18:23,279 --> 00:18:27,240 doing that, I learned what Yo Gonanda was talking about. 295 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:34,480 You can't have extraneous things that are occupying you, your emotions, 296 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:38,799 your activities. It has to be very focused. Now his 297 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,519 focus was on God and that has always been my focus. Now, 298 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,799 in listening to him to talk about it, I said, Okay, 299 00:18:48,079 --> 00:18:51,559 this has got to change. And God became the center 300 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:57,200 of my being. And that's how I learned about finding 301 00:18:57,319 --> 00:19:03,960 something rather than myself, than my family, rated than my activities, 302 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,759 that's something that was missing in my life. That's something 303 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:12,839 that was bigger than anything that I had ever encountered, 304 00:19:13,519 --> 00:19:18,000 and so I concentrated on that. I heard a woman 305 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,000 was talking about God holding one end of the rubber 306 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:25,440 band and you holding the other end of the rubber band. 307 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,240 You keep pulling on your end. God keeps pulling on 308 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:34,680 his end, and all of a sudden, God says, you 309 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,720 know what, it seems she wants to handle this herself. 310 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,079 That God drops his end, and now you're left with 311 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:48,119 the whole problem yourself. However, if you let God handle 312 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,079 what he's supposed to handle and stop pulling away from him, 313 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,720 your whole everything is going to be solved for you. 314 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,000 Of course, the main thing that I would definitely recommend 315 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:04,640 is before you turn yourself your problems over to God, 316 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,200 do whatever you can yourself. 317 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: To solve it, right, because you can't expect God to 318 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,680 just you know, just like, oh, well I owe twenty 319 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,880 thousand dollars on my credit card, God take care of 320 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,400 that for me. 321 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: Well, you're coming close to this. I owed seven hundred dollars. 322 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,480 I had no income. This was at the beginning of 323 00:20:25,519 --> 00:20:29,720 my career, and I had just heard this buck, this woman, 324 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,240 and I had tried everything that I could to earn 325 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:37,359 money and couldn't And I said, okay, God, I'm turning 326 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,640 this over to you. I need seven hundred dollars here 327 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,480 all my bills. I have tried everything that I can, 328 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:48,119 and I'm running out of options. And this is the 329 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,960 day I needed far The day before those bills would do, 330 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,759 I got a check from an insurance company for an 331 00:20:55,799 --> 00:20:59,519 accident that I have had years and years and years 332 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:03,319 prior to that day, never stood I would never get 333 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,640 a penny. I got seven hundred and twenty seven hundred 334 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,319 dollars and twenty five cents. 335 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 336 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:20,680 and now back to the show. 337 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: By twenty five cents left over. 338 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: Hey, there was a tip. 339 00:21:24,759 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: Uh huh, And the tip was that I should do 340 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,759 what I can and anything I can't do, I have 341 00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:35,640 to have faith, and that faith has to be unshakable, 342 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,200 because every time I thought about the seven hundred dollars 343 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,440 that I owed, I said, Okay, God's handle it, get 344 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,839 rid of it, and I would drop it, make myself 345 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,240 stop thinking about. 346 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: It, and kindly when you say God, because I know 347 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,079 a lot of times when people use the term God, 348 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,480 they automatically go to religion. Oh no, or some sort 349 00:21:54,519 --> 00:21:57,359 of dogma or something along those lines. I just want 350 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,279 to make that very clear that Yogananda and you, when 351 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:03,680 you say God, you're talking about just the spiritual aspect 352 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:05,359 of God, right. 353 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,799 Speaker 2: It creative force of the universe. 354 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: Right right, No dog no religious implications. 355 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: No. As a matter of fact, I really don't have 356 00:22:14,839 --> 00:22:18,359 much use for revision. I think it's man made. I 357 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:23,319 think that people are divided into cults because of it. 358 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,480 I don't want that. I want something that is very 359 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,759 solid inside of me, where I can have the faith 360 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,880 that God, this God which is now the center of 361 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,000 my universe, is going to help me and I will 362 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:41,319 have the faith because doubts and fear cannot coexist with faith. 363 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:46,119 It simply cannot. They say that two objects cannot occupy 364 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,119 the same space. That's statistics. Well this is different. You 365 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,599 can't have faith coexisting with fear and doubt. So choose 366 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,240 whichever one want to do. It's stick with it. 367 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: And that was the one thing I loved about Yogananda 368 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,480 and his amazing book Autobiography of a Yogi and all 369 00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:07,839 of his work where he was telling people to look 370 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,880 within themselves, to connect with God, with the higher Power, 371 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,279 with the universe, whatever you'd like to call it, but 372 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,279 to look inside as opposed to look outside. And he 373 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,440 was doing this in the thirties, which was you know, 374 00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:22,799 heresy essentially. 375 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 2: Well I was doing is not much later than that, 376 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,839 except that I didn't know what the hell I was doing. 377 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,960 I was sixty years old and I was at the 378 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,000 beach with my mom. As I said, I'm an introvert, 379 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:41,400 and I was really shy, very withdrawn, and didn't have 380 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,200 any friends. We went to the beach, was sitting on 381 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,599 the blanket and when mom's friends came over and she 382 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:50,119 had her daughter with her, and her daughter's name was 383 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,160 Marvine got All these years later and I was thinking 384 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,839 about Marlene. She had this bubbly personality. Well, there's nothing 385 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:04,119 about me that bubbles good do it? And I didn't 386 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,279 know about bubbly personality. I wanted to have what she had, 387 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,319 but I didn't want to be her. I write being me, 388 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:15,279 I write being different. I just didn't want to be 389 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:18,359 the way I was. I wanted to have friends, and 390 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,720 I wanted something. So I'm sitting on the blanket and 391 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:26,079 I'm looking at Marlene and she's bubbling over and she's 392 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,079 talking about and I'm sitting there quiet with drawing, not 393 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:34,880 saying a single word, and I'm studying her. Well. All 394 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,839 of a sudden, I looked down at her feet and 395 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,880 right an inch below her ankle bone, there is a 396 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,599 light round birthmark. And I'm thinking to myself, if I 397 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,880 had that light brown birthmark in the same place on 398 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:55,599 my ankle, right below my ankle, I would be like Marlene. 399 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,960 People would like me and focused, focused, and I focused. 400 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,480 I focused, and I really really focused. You didn't hear 401 00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:06,319 a peep from me because I was so busy concentrating 402 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,319 on that thing. Well, nothing happened. I was still withdraw on, 403 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,960 I was still introverted. I didn't have any friends. And 404 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:18,000 a few days later I looked down at my ankle. 405 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:24,960 There's the same birthmark that lowline had. I thought, wow, 406 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,160 And that's when I first started learning about visualization without 407 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,000 knowing what it was. Never heard the words. I came 408 00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:35,920 from a very conservative background. You didn't hear these things, 409 00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:40,720 especially in those days, and I carried that birthmark on 410 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,720 my ankle bone for the next forty years before it 411 00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:49,880 went away. But he was not ripped. He That was 412 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,000 my first experience with that. 413 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:56,839 Speaker 1: Now, you said that you looked around and you started 414 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,599 to make your life simpler, almost becoming more minimistic in 415 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,920 your life in all shapes, not only in the material world, 416 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,799 but also in relationships and other things like that. But 417 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,799 with material things. I think that humanity in general and 418 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:16,279 people get so caught up with this concept of I 419 00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:19,279 need more stuff, I need the latest gadgets, I need this, 420 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,119 I need that thing. And I heard a great quote 421 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,319 the other day, a great comment I think it was 422 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:29,119 from one of my guests that said, you never see 423 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,200 a U haul in the back of a hearse, And 424 00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:37,119 I just thought that that was such a wonderful comment 425 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,519 because it's so true. You know, we fight and we 426 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,799 kill and we hurt people and each other for things, 427 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,359 for stuff, but at the end of the day, you 428 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,519 can't really do much with it. What are your thoughts 429 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:55,160 on trying to make your life a little bit more minimalistic, 430 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,839 try to pull some of that away from you, to 431 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,480 kind of free you a bit more, because I think 432 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,319 the more stuff you have, the more of a prisoner 433 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,799 you are to the stuff, and that it ends up 434 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:06,839 owning you and not the other way around. 435 00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: The only thing, the only thing I have of value 436 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:12,400 my books. 437 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: Right because they actually mean something to you. 438 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: I had twenty five hundred books when I moved into 439 00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:21,640 this house. I have to tell you that it felt 440 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,400 like I was giving away some of my children, and 441 00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:27,519 I had to give away a thousand, both Snakeroom the 442 00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:32,279 other fifteen hundred. I'm not a materialistic person. I couldn't 443 00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:36,480 care less about gadget In fact, I don't even own 444 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,599 gadgets that I know how to use. A friend of 445 00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:44,400 mine st you have the most nophisticated gadgets in the world, 446 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,640 and you murdered them. You don't know how to use them, 447 00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:52,279 you're not learning why do you have them? And I 448 00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:56,960 couldn't answer. I have a computer. I still haven't learned 449 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,359 how to turn it on and off. So when you 450 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,799 asked me about a minimalizing what I had, I didn't 451 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,599 have this kind of things that you were talking about. 452 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,680 I never cared about them. What I did have were 453 00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:14,519 some friends which turned out to be not friends, and 454 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:17,000 I got rid of them. I got rid of things 455 00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:20,240 like but I can still show you some of my 456 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,960 things from kindergarten, and I have I really have not 457 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,759 been a collector of things. I hate shopping with the passion. 458 00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:35,119 I was just a single running naked through the jungle. 459 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,400 As to go into a store and buary clothing. It 460 00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:42,200 wasn't interest me. So these kinds of things that I 461 00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:47,119 simplified for conversations. I learned how to say no, which 462 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,200 was very difficult for me. I learned the things that 463 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,720 were important to my life, and I concentrated on that. 464 00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,759 And that was at a very young age. I remember 465 00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:00,720 one of the things prior to that, when I was 466 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,799 in elementary school, and again I wanted to have something 467 00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:09,559 that other kids have. Well, the popular girls all had 468 00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:13,359 dimples in their cheeks. I did not have dimples. 469 00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:19,759 Speaker 1: Something something tells me I knew. I knew that already. 470 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: No, wait a moment, I didn't say I don't have 471 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:30,440 Now I said I didn't have them. Then I sat 472 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:36,079 in class with my fingers my thumb nail on each 473 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,440 side of my face where a dimple should appear, and 474 00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:52,400 I pressed in and I concentrated simple dimples. Well, I 475 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,640 don't have dimples, but I do have creases that remained. 476 00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:02,319 After all these centuries have passed. A friend of mine called, 477 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,559 probably about thirty years later, and I hadn't spoken to 478 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:09,920 her in about five years. He said, Oh, Connie, I 479 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,480 miss you so much, and I miss seeing your dimples. 480 00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:16,599 That thing to myself, I've had dimples. I have prices 481 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:25,440 to see if I had temples. 482 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: Now, there's one thing you said earlier about karma and 483 00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,839 Yogananda spoken about karma. And karma is not a new 484 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,559 concept by any stretch of imagination, and it's been spoken 485 00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:42,319 about by many religions and many thought leaders throughout history. 486 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,759 Can you explain to the audience a little bit about 487 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,599 what karma is and how we can change that. Karma? 488 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,480 According to Yogananda. 489 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: Or or not, Kara is like this law of gravity, 490 00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:59,599 what goes up must come dance. What you do in 491 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,200 one life lifetime, you've read in another lifetime you've been 492 00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:07,319 wonderful in a past life. Well the next lifetime to 493 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,079 go and have wonderful things happen. 494 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 495 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,880 and now back to the show. 496 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: You've been a miserable individual in a past life. In 497 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:27,079 this life, you're going to be the object of misery. 498 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,160 Everyone has to experience a present at being the oppressor, 499 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,279 rich or poor. They have to experience all aspects of living. 500 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:43,319 There are seven planes of consciousness. Each plane is divided 501 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,640 by seven subplanes. You have to pass through these planes 502 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,119 of consciousness to get to God's consciousness, which means that 503 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:55,039 you've got a lot of living to do. They say 504 00:31:55,079 --> 00:32:00,759 that Jesus had thirty three lifetimes, and tonsidering that he 505 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,000 came in at the level he came in, he'd say, 506 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,200 he that's the life. Why does he have to go 507 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:10,640 to so many It was to prove himself, not only 508 00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:15,000 to himself, but the world in general. This is what 509 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,759 it takes to become an ascended master. 510 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: And ascended masters are people who have transcended this world, 511 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,960 this plan of existence, if you will, like Jesus or 512 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,599 Buddha Mohammad, these kind of figures throughout history. 513 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,759 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, they figured it out. 514 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,039 Speaker 1: In other words, they cracked the nut, if you will, 515 00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:42,640 of getting out of this endless it seems to be 516 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,920 almost endless circle of karma of getting in and out 517 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,839 being stuck in this body. I mean again, I'm definitely 518 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,519 not the first to say this, but from my understanding 519 00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:56,319 and from my readings of great spiritual texts, the concept 520 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,599 of the soul and the body, as if as the 521 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,400 soul is traveling, is having a physical experience as opposed 522 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,200 to a physical being having a spiritual experience, it's the opposite. 523 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:14,440 We're here, we're souls driving around in our bodies experiencing life. 524 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,119 And then when this body is done, and this time 525 00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:19,559 to get off the train. You get off the train 526 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880 and you move on, and then you might and then 527 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,799 you hopefully or might come back into another body to 528 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,839 experience something else, something different from another perspective, like you 529 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,359 were just saying, until you learn to the point where 530 00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:34,240 you don't have to come back anymore and you can 531 00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:36,519 transcend this level of existence. 532 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:41,839 Speaker 2: You have to pass through all seven planes. When Jesus 533 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,799 came this last time ran he had just passed through 534 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,759 the sixth plane of consciousness, which is renunciation. That was 535 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,279 the plane where he had to give up his body, 536 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:58,359 which he did. He had to give up all earthly possessions, 537 00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:04,440 which he did, give up everything, and that was his renunciation. 538 00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:08,599 Then he was ready to go to the seventh plane 539 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,280 of consciousness, which is a plane of God consciousness. 540 00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:16,159 Speaker 1: And where was all of this with the seventh the 541 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,840 consciousness and karma? Is this all? Where did this all 542 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,639 come from? As far as the knowledge the text is, 543 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,559 who's the one who brought this into what texts? Can 544 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,920 people go out and study more about these concepts? 545 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:34,199 Speaker 2: I can tell you that Yogananda had a tremendous influence 546 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,760 on my life, much more so than any of the others. 547 00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:41,639 Familiar with all of the others, I bought all the 548 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:48,239 different religions to study those or the philosophies I have. 549 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,119 I'm teens in books, but nothing prepared me for Yogananda. 550 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,079 He summed up things for me in such a way. 551 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,840 I mean, I did not know that I could change 552 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,599 my karma. Do you know, Alice, that after I changed 553 00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:07,199 my karma, I watched my negative karma lift up for 554 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,079 my body and move away. 555 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: And how do you change. 556 00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: Your karma living a spiritual life? 557 00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: And what does that mean? Exactly? 558 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 2: Well, for me, it meant I can forgive myself first 559 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,159 of all, and I can learn to love myself. From there, 560 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,440 I can radiate that forgiveness and that love everyone else. 561 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:35,280 Not to hold grudges, not to hold bad thoughts about people. Yes, 562 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,280 this one has these kinds of preslegures but that's his path, 563 00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:43,880 it's not yours. Let him go those Some of the 564 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,679 things that I learned was that my destiny is to 565 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,360 help mankind, and that's what I was looking That's what 566 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,360 I was looking for. 567 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: I can only tell, and I've said this I think 568 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,360 on this show as well as my other shows, is 569 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,079 that I found that in my own life. I've been 570 00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:05,760 chasing the dream of being a big time film director 571 00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:11,079 for decades almost, and I kept trying to break through 572 00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:13,480 and trying to hack it and trying to figure things out. 573 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,320 It never really worked out the way I wanted it to. 574 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,119 But the moment I started to be of service to 575 00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:25,840 people in a big way is when opportunities started to 576 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,800 present themselves. And I saw glimpses of that in five 577 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,039 when I released my first short film and provided a 578 00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,320 tremendous amount of service with what I did with the 579 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,400 products and DVDs that I created from it, I got 580 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,119 opportunities and I met people that I just wouldn't have otherwise. 581 00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:46,840 But then I put that down and didn't go back 582 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,079 to it for ten years. But the moment I opened 583 00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:53,599 up Indie Film Hustle in my other companies and started 584 00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:56,960 providing service to other people. My life changed in ways 585 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,119 that I can't comprehend and can continue to change on 586 00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:05,360 a daily basis, in a profound way. And the more 587 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,079 I gave, the more it came back to me. And 588 00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:12,880 the more I enjoyed giving of myself, the more I received, 589 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,159 and it is completely transformed my life. It's one of 590 00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:19,280 the reasons why I wanted to start this show is 591 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,639 because I wanted to give back to a larger community 592 00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:26,119 that not just the film industry and the entertainment industry. 593 00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:29,679 I wanted to give back to a much larger basically 594 00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:33,559 the rest of the world, because the show can touch 595 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,880 anybody in any field. But that was the thing that 596 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,960 I found in my life which was so profound, and 597 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,880 it really has changed my life completely in a way 598 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,440 that I can't even really comprehend yet and I might 599 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,000 one day, But all I know is I enjoy giving, 600 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,719 And I think we're all kind of hardwired to enjoy 601 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,440 giving because when you give a gift, you get an 602 00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:02,599 endorphin rush on a physical standpoint. You know, when you 603 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,840 give or you help somebody, it makes you feel good. 604 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,079 And I think a lot of people forget that a. 605 00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:13,039 Speaker 2: Lot of people have never experienced that that's true when 606 00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:16,280 you talk about giving. You and I were both born 607 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,320 as givers. If you were not, you would not have 608 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,960 a mission like you have in this lifetime. If I 609 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,840 were not, I would not have mission that I have 610 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:32,239 in this lifetime. There are many many people who can 611 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,079 only feel joy in chasing something that they can't have, 612 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,559 and they only have enjoyments accumulating things that they have 613 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,079 no regard for or once they get it, their interests 614 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:52,159 to exist. Whether it's a relationship, whether it's an electronic device, 615 00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:55,840 makes no matter. They just want to pursue it the 616 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,559 sake of pursuing it. They can look at some of 617 00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:04,079 these companies that are run by the titans of industry. 618 00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:07,079 How many of them are really happy. Take a look 619 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,440 at their faces, Take a look at their eyes. How 620 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,079 many of them smile with their eyes? They don't. They 621 00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:18,440 smile with their mouths. They say the appropriate things that 622 00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:22,800 they don't really convey that sense of happiness. They don't 623 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,360 convey that feeling. Let me share this with you. I'm 624 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,480 not out for your money. I want you to enjoy 625 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:34,679 something that I enjoy. It will help you to enjoy life. 626 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:40,480 Something that says I want to help humanity now I 627 00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:43,400 learned at a very very young age that I was 628 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,719 supposed to help humanity. I learned that at the age 629 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,599 of seven. That was when I got my first vision, 630 00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:54,840 and it's been a revelation ever since, because I would 631 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,719 much rather give than to receive. In fact, people have 632 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,800 said to me, what to get you for your birthday? 633 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,679 Is so difficult to shop for nothing interests you, And 634 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,000 it's true, I really don't have a whole lot of 635 00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:14,880 interest in material things. I could wear the same outfit 636 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,960 every day for the next twenty five years. 637 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: Agreed, Well, I know I'm maybe. 638 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:28,199 Speaker 2: Doing just that, but you know it's true. Some people 639 00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:33,840 need to have their lives surrounded by things. That's their 640 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,920 measure of success. My measure of success is very different. 641 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,880 My measure of success is have I made a difference 642 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,880 in anyone's life, even one person would satisfy Then make 643 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,039 a difference in somebody's life and make it better for somebody. 644 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,119 That gives me tremendous amounts of joy. As far as 645 00:40:56,559 --> 00:41:00,559 buying things for myself, I really don't. I think for 646 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,880 other people, yes, particularly things that I think that they 647 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,760 will enjoy, Like someone is that I know wants to 648 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,719 become a full time writer. 649 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 650 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:19,480 and now back to the show. 651 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: But she didn't own a book called Writer's Market. So 652 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,400 for her birthday after shortly after I found out that 653 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,760 she didn't have that book, I bought it for her. 654 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,000 Gave me tremendous pleasure, being that she was going to 655 00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:41,880 use that book to try to start selling the worsts 656 00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:45,079 that she was writing. Whether or not she'll get a 657 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,800 buyer for it, I don't know, but at least I 658 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,880 gave her a tool to begin the search. And that 659 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,039 gave me a lot of joy. 660 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: Now, one thing that has become very popular in these 661 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,960 last probably the last twenty years or so, is meditation. 662 00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:07,000 And so many people now I mean before when you meditated, 663 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,880 when you said you meditated, people looked at you weird. 664 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,840 And now so many people around the world and in 665 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,719 the West are meditating and they understand the benefits of 666 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,639 it on a physical level, butf you, I feel, understand 667 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,119 the spiritual level of it and how it connects you 668 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,800 deeper with that creative force, the God force, if you will. 669 00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,079 How important is meditation in your life and what has 670 00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:34,480 it done for you? Because you've been meditating probably longer 671 00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:36,719 you were meditating before it was probably. 672 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 2: Cool I was. I started out with seven or eight 673 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,960 hours of meditation a day. 674 00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: It's a serious amount of meditation. 675 00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: Well, I had read a book in my books could 676 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,880 be my danceflaw as well as everything else. I read 677 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,599 a book that talked about meditation opening up your chapters 678 00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:03,599 and your charkers. Of course, are those units of energy 679 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,880 that open up best universes for you. 680 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,079 Speaker 1: Right. It's been discussed in many, many religious texts and 681 00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:12,480 spiritual texts throughout time. 682 00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I read whatever I could about the Chokras, 683 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,760 and I read everything that I could about meditation, and 684 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,599 what I found was very disturbing. I don't know if 685 00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:29,519 anyone else has coined this expression, but I ended up 686 00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:33,880 coining this expression called phony holies. I started out by 687 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,400 reading books and books was saying things, but I wasn't 688 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,559 seeing those same people often as I say, was spiritual. 689 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,599 The words that came out of their mouths or out 690 00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:51,199 of their writings sounded spiritual, but they're born't doing anything spiritual. 691 00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:54,679 Speaker 1: So, Conna, you mean to tell me that there's people 692 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,639 out there who will pretend to be holy and spiritual 693 00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:04,039 just to sell products and books and to become famous. 694 00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:06,559 I can't believe it. I can't believe it. 695 00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 2: Connie, Yep, I even own some of them. 696 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure you do. I'm sure we all do. If 697 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,960 you're into this world. I'm sure there's a lot of 698 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,880 people out there who'd love to talk to talk, but 699 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,320 generally don't walk the walk. 700 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,039 Speaker 2: They really did. And I call them phony holies because 701 00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:29,280 what happened was when I started reading the books and 702 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,000 I started realizing that these were just words that had 703 00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:37,119 no bearing on reality, no bearing on what I was 704 00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:42,159 actually seeing in operation. And I was beside myself because 705 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,519 when you go other than books, I don't forget. There 706 00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:48,280 were no audio books in those days. There were no 707 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,480 computers in those days. But I did have the written 708 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,760 for it. And the thing that bothered me the most 709 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,440 was that I said to myself, well, maybe you're not 710 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:03,920 spiritual enough. Maybe you should be really doing with those 711 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,039 books are saying because you're not spiritual enough, or you 712 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:11,800 would be doing it. And what I found out was 713 00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:15,000 they weren't doing it either. It was just talking about 714 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,559 When I came across Yogananda, it had very very different 715 00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:23,679 flavor to it. It was like, oh, yes, this is 716 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,039 somebody I could follow easily. This is someone who touches 717 00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,960 something inside of me that says, follow me. And it 718 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,239 was the first one that I ever felt that way about. 719 00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:36,880 And I know that there have been a lot of 720 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,559 descended masters, and I know that I have one, but 721 00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:44,480 the one that really really touched my soul in a 722 00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:48,320 way that nothing else has ever touched my soul has 723 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,840 been Yoga Nanda. 724 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,119 Speaker 1: Well. I mean, considering that his book Autobiography of a 725 00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:57,400 Yogi has sold tens of millions of copies around the world, 726 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,119 and I was considered one of the premiers spiritual text 727 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,000 of the last hundred years. I understand why, because the 728 00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:10,920 cream does rise to the top. People connect with authenticity. 729 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,920 You know, you can fool people to a certain extent, 730 00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:16,800 but for true connection, you can't fake that. 731 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:21,159 Speaker 2: Well, I kept feeling like I couldn't be spiritual if 732 00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:25,159 I wasn't doing what those books were saying. But when 733 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,800 Yoga Nitis was talking about the things, I connected immediately. 734 00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:32,400 And I can't tell you how many books are sold 735 00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:35,800 to people I met or I said, you have got 736 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,440 to buy this book, you have got to read it, 737 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,800 and you have got to read it in a way 738 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,639 that you don't read a novel, read a few and 739 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,199 you think about it and you try to integrate it 740 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,039 into your life, and then you read a few more pages, 741 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,360 but you don't read it as a novel. And that 742 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,440 has been a turning point for a lot of people 743 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,880 because they started out with, oh, this is a great novel. 744 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:05,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's a fantastic story. Yeah, it's a great autobiography. 745 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 2: And just the fact that a really like a novel 746 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,840 doesn't make it a novel. It makes it something that's 747 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,000 interesting enough that engages you at a level that you 748 00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:24,119 have never been engaged in your life. 749 00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:26,679 Speaker 1: Well, I mean he was a very big influence on 750 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,320 the Beatles. I think he's on the cover of Sergeant Pepper. 751 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,239 I think he's one of the people who's on the 752 00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:36,639 cover of the album cover. And I mean that book 753 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,400 has connected to so many people. And I think, isn't 754 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:44,519 he the first spiritual master if you will, that wrote 755 00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:48,400 about being a yogi and that path? I don't think 756 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,880 there was another book prior to him, correct. 757 00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,559 Speaker 2: You know, I really don't know the answer. 758 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: To that, but his has become obviously the most popular 759 00:47:56,159 --> 00:47:59,440 of that genre, if you will, of yogi's and getting 760 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,320 closer to in that way in his path that he's taken. 761 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,559 I haven't been able to find the book. 762 00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:10,039 Speaker 2: Both like Christian Marty mm they say pretty much the 763 00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:13,719 same things, but Yogananda has a different way of saying it. 764 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing too, And I've noticed that about 765 00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:20,800 even with the work that I do is a lot 766 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,760 of the things that I say on my other shows 767 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,960 are you know, things that people know about and other 768 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,559 people say it. But people like my flavor and some 769 00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:31,679 people might like other people's flavor. So I always tell 770 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,719 people try as many flavors you want, and whichever one 771 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,320 you connect with, then go down that road, because it 772 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,960 might not be me, it might be somebody else. And 773 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,639 I say that again with everybody listening now, like, if 774 00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,119 this is a show that connects with you, then great, 775 00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:47,960 keep listening. If it isn't, then find the show or 776 00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:50,559 find something that will connect you in the way that 777 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,280 is meaningful to you. 778 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 2: Well, one of my clients made a comments someone else 779 00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:00,000 within my hearing, and he didn't know what I was listening, 780 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,079 and he said, Tommy can bring things into existence that 781 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,800 don't exist, and she can stop them from happening just 782 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,000 by the force of her will. And I thought to myself, wow, 783 00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:18,199 that's interesting that. Yeah. Well, my sister in law had 784 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,800 sent me a plant for my birthday. It was one 785 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:28,960 of these gorgeous delft pottery containers, and the arrangement was 786 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,480 just absolutely stunning. I called my friend and I said, 787 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,559 would you do me a favor. I'm going to make 788 00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:40,239 an experiment. My sister in law just sent me most 789 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,599 gorgeous floral arrangements I have yet to see. Would you 790 00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:50,360 consent to by calling you every single day and telling 791 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,880 you which flowers are still alive? And she said sure. 792 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,599 So every day I would sit down in front of 793 00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:04,039 the flower, put my hands around them, not touching them exactly, 794 00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:08,239 but around them. My eyes closed, and I would focus 795 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,719 on keeping these cut flowers alive. And every day I 796 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,800 would call and say, well, there's still alive. But some 797 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,920 of the flowers had fallen off, some of them turned round, died, 798 00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:25,840 but basically this this still alive. And then one day, 799 00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:29,559 a couple of weeks later, my hands flipped and all 800 00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,840 of a sudden I looked down and I see that 801 00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:36,239 the bottom row of flowers that was so gorgeous and 802 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:47,440 so vibrants were artificial. No wonder they was so alive. 803 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:53,079 Speaker 1: Looking fantastic Jesus. 804 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,039 Speaker 2: But I had done that with Honestly, I had put 805 00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:01,960 them into existence, and I have stopping from existing. 806 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,079 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you a question. How can people 807 00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:09,360 break through the limitations that they or society puts on them, 808 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,119 because I feel that it is a challenge that most 809 00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:16,199 human beings have to go through. We'll be right back 810 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:22,280 after a word from our sponsor, and now back to 811 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,320 the show. 812 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I was very fortunate in one respect. My parents 813 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,880 told me not to care about public opinion and to 814 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,280 question everything, and that has been the story of my life. 815 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,960 When you talk about other people influencing your life and 816 00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:44,719 stopping you from progressing, it's how you were brought up. 817 00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:47,920 A lot of people pleases in this world. They have 818 00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:52,840 the most difficult times of all because they're constantly trying 819 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,760 to please everyone and you can't. The only one you 820 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,159 can is yourself. And if you are really pleasing yourself, 821 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,320 then you're pleasing God as well. If you're not happy 822 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,599 with yourself, then you're separating yourself from God. 823 00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: Is this why people struggle so much in life? 824 00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:14,119 Speaker 2: They struggle because they don't have a concept of what 825 00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:17,119 they're going towards. You know, Like I told you, I 826 00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:20,159 woke up one day and I said, why am I here? 827 00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:23,719 What am I supposed to be doing? I really feel 828 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,440 like I'm taking a time and space on this planet 829 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,719 and I'm not accomplishing anything. I mean, I'm doing things. 830 00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:37,760 I'm accomplishing things on a material basis, but I don't 831 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,719 feel it inside of me. I don't feel fulfilled. It 832 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,760 wasn't until much much later that people started coming to 833 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,800 me to solve their problems, and I got such a 834 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,840 feeling of well being from helping them solve the problems 835 00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:56,360 that all of a sudden it dawned on me. You're 836 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,400 here to fix things. You're here to show people out 837 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,559 to fix their lives, out the observers to mankind, to 838 00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:10,039 dig into themselves so that they can feel what feels 839 00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:15,000 good and then they can emulate that they can replicate it. Now, 840 00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:19,280 if I show somebody out to fish and he can 841 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,559 then go out and fish every day for his dinner, 842 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,679 I have given him something of value. If I've just 843 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,880 given him a fish dinner, he's only eaten for one 844 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,320 night and he doesn't have that feeling of well being 845 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,960 in him. But if he learns has to fish and 846 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,079 he can fish for himself and his family. Then he 847 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,000 has this feeling of accomplishments. Well, you can't beat that 848 00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:48,760 feeling of accomplishment. It's there within you, saying Okay, now 849 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,760 you've got something tangible that you can do. What else 850 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,000 would you like to do? What else would give you pleasure? 851 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:01,159 I symptomes make people, well, not just sometimes, many times 852 00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:05,760 I have them make a list two hundred things that 853 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,119 gives them pleasure that they enjoy, and they're look at 854 00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:13,199 me as if I'm crazy, And I said, every day, 855 00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:16,480 you start a new list every day. I don't care 856 00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:20,639 if you repeat things from the previous day, makes no difference. 857 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,760 So what's that list? Are the things that give you pleasure? 858 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,159 Then after about three months of this, I say, okay, 859 00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:32,960 now take four things a day that give you pleasure 860 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,000 and do them. The one person had things that gives 861 00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:42,800 him pleasure was having a hot shower, so that became 862 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,199 one of the things that he had to do. So 863 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,679 that week he had to give himself a hot shower 864 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:54,280 one day a week. But people have a very difficult 865 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,440 time saying what really gives them pleasure. They can tell 866 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,440 you more about what they don't like then what they 867 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,559 do like when I do your counseling, I will say 868 00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:10,199 to them, Okay, what do you feel passionate about? And 869 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,199 I'll say, I don't know. You mean, you don't know. 870 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,000 You now here's five years old. You don't know what 871 00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:20,599 you feel passionate about anything. 872 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,079 Speaker 3: I don't know. 873 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 2: I find that incredible. You know, if anyone would to 874 00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:30,639 ask me that, I wouldn't hesitate for a single second. 875 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,519 I know it gives me pleasure. But it's like going 876 00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:37,400 into a restaurant, looking at the menu and saying, well, 877 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,719 I don't want this, I don't want that, I don't 878 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,039 like this, I don't like right. But what do you like? 879 00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:46,159 What would you like to have for dinner? 880 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 881 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 2: And it's the same thing. If you have no idea 882 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,280 what you would like, everything else becomes things that you 883 00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,320 don't like. That's the core of why you don't feel 884 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,920 fulfilled in this lifetime. 885 00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:04,639 Speaker 1: Now, where do you see us going? Where do you 886 00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:10,159 see humanity going in the next twenty years, fifty years? 887 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 2: You're not going to like this? 888 00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 1: Well, as I asked the question, I was afraid to 889 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,519 ask it, but just out of curiosity, just your opinion 890 00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:25,559 of what you think, you feel that the humanity is 891 00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:29,119 going to be going through in the next fifty years. 892 00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:32,679 Speaker 2: Very difficult times. We have got to hit back bottom 893 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,519 where people start to see the value of their lives, 894 00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:41,159 where people start to see that their lives are not 895 00:56:42,159 --> 00:56:46,679 just for themselves, that they interact with other wives, that 896 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,360 we are interdependent on other people. Like John Dunn said, 897 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,000 no man is an. 898 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,599 Speaker 3: Island, very much true, and it's true, I mean the 899 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:02,079 first time ever and so I because remember growing up 900 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,320 we are now global. 901 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 2: Thing that we do depends upon our global communication with 902 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:19,760 other countries, our food, our beverages, our xt books, our art, 903 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,880 everything doesn't make any difference what it is. We are interconnected, 904 00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:31,119 we are interdependent on other people, on other countries. We 905 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,840 keep losing sight of that, and we keep having wars 906 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,639 that make absolutely no sense. What are we trying to 907 00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:44,000 do destroy each other? We're only destroying ourselves right now. 908 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:49,679 To answer the questions more specifically, until we get to 909 00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:54,079 that point where we understand what it is that we've 910 00:57:54,119 --> 00:57:58,039 been doing wrong, we cannot get to the understanding of 911 00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:01,079 what we can do that is right. So we have 912 00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:05,519 to start looking at Okay, we've been declaring war on 913 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,679 all these countries. Now there are our friends, and we 914 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,920 give them top secrets, and five years from now they're 915 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,480 going to use these top secrets against us. But this 916 00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:22,800 is absolutely ridiculous. We need to make partners of these people, 917 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,880 not adversaries. We need to show them that we understand 918 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,079 that we have different cultures and that we can sustain 919 00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:37,360 our individuality and still love them and still want to 920 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,920 be partners with them, and still have something in common 921 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:46,400 even though we have different countries and different habits and 922 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,519 different cultures and everything else. And until we can get 923 00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:54,079 to that level, then you're going to see the destruction 924 00:58:54,199 --> 00:58:58,280 of mankind in a very big way. And that part 925 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,559 is not far from happening. 926 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,639 Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you a large question, not 927 00:59:04,719 --> 00:59:06,800 that the questions I've been asking you haven't been large, 928 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,760 but why do you think we are here? Or, at 929 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,559 least from your point of view, why do you think 930 00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:17,000 that we as souls, as people, as a species are here. 931 00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:18,880 What's the purpose of all of this. 932 00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:27,239 Speaker 2: To become perfected? This is our university. It's where we 933 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,840 learned the lessons. It's where we practice on each other, 934 00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:37,639 on ourselves. How can you learn kindness if you don't 935 00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:41,920 have the experience of doing a kindness to someone or 936 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,079 having someone else do a kindness for you. How do 937 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:47,760 you learn these things if you don't have a practice. 938 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:54,039 So Earth is a practice. It's a university. Unfortunately to 939 00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:57,079 any people don't take notes on it, they would learn 940 00:59:57,159 --> 01:00:02,360 a lot. What I'm hoping for is a reawakening, and 941 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,760 I have this feeling that you're going to play a 942 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,079 very pivotal role in the reawakening. 943 01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that confidence, Connie. 944 01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Oh, don't appreciate it too quickly. 945 01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:20,039 Speaker 1: You may. 946 01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 2: You may say, oh my damn, Connie. 947 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Oh, I've said that a couple of times over the years. Now, Connie, 948 01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:32,159 I can keep talking to you for hours, But I 949 01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:34,360 wanted to ask you where can people find out more 950 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,039 about you and your book? The many books as you 951 01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:37,559 have written. 952 01:00:38,119 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Oh, I have twelve that are on Amazon, and a 953 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:48,320 couple of CDs of the Book of Whispers of the 954 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,920 Soul book. That was my first book that I wrote. 955 01:00:53,239 --> 01:00:55,400 And there was a reason that I wrote that book. 956 01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:58,800 My brother was saying of cancer. I wanted to give 957 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,719 him something that he see that he was going to 958 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:07,400 be written up in the dedication, and so I said, 959 01:01:07,559 --> 01:01:09,320 I wrote it to base. 960 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 961 01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:18,639 and now back to the show. 962 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,159 Speaker 2: Three months and he died shortly thereafter. 963 01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 1: Now is there a website that everyone can go to 964 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:27,800 to find out more about you? 965 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 2: KANIEH Deutch dot com. 966 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: And I will put that link in the show notes. Connie, 967 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,239 thank you so much for being on the show. It's 968 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,679 been an absolute pleasure and honor talking to you, and 969 01:01:39,719 --> 01:01:41,920 hopefully some of the stuff we've talked about today can 970 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,239 help some souls out there get to the next level. 971 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 2: I think that you will do a great job doing that. 972 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,480 I think you have what it takes to do it. 973 01:01:54,159 --> 01:01:57,039 Speaker 1: I appreciate you and thank you for all the service 974 01:01:57,039 --> 01:02:01,320 that you've provided people over the years. Thank you, my friend. 975 01:02:01,519 --> 01:02:03,199 Speaker 2: Thank you, sweetheart. You take care. 976 01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 1: I hope this conversation with Connie has enlightened you in 977 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,280 a way that helps you on your life's journey and 978 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,639 helps you figure out why you are here and what 979 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,880 is your life's mission, and how you could be more 980 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,679 of service to others in this world, and how being 981 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,199 of service to others is what will help you get 982 01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:31,639 to where you might want to be in life. As 983 01:02:31,719 --> 01:02:34,599 someone said once, if you want to have your dreams 984 01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:38,519 come true, help somebody else with theirs. If you want 985 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:41,599 to do a deeper dive into Connie and her work, 986 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,440 head over to the show notes at Next levelsoul dot 987 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:50,480 com Forward slash zero zero eight. Now. If this conversation 988 01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,920 stirred something in you, there's more waiting. You can listen 989 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,519 to this episode completely commercial free on Next Level Soul 990 01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:03,360 TVs app where Soul meets Watch and listen on Apple iOS, Android, 991 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:08,280 Apple TV, Rouku, Android TV, Fire, tv LG and Samsung 992 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:14,480 apps anytime anywhere. Begin your awakening at Next levelsoul dot TV. 993 01:03:15,239 --> 01:03:17,599 Thank you so much for listening. As I always say, 994 01:03:18,159 --> 01:03:21,920 trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see 995 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:22,400 you next time.