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<v Speaker 1>Wimbo Kelly one K six will come.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty eighty nine Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>Roble Force is obsolete and has no hope of becoming heroes.

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<v Speaker 3>That is until a mysterious code virus infects the UA

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<v Speaker 3>one oh one bots and no one besides Robo Force

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<v Speaker 3>can stop them. Robo Force, the animated series premieres April

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<v Speaker 3>twelfth on TV, which also happens to be the most

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<v Speaker 3>watched free TV and movie streaming service in the US. Producer,

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<v Speaker 3>director and friend to the show, and also founder and

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<v Speaker 3>CEO Today Sale Come, Brian Volkwiss is back to tell

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<v Speaker 3>us all about Robo Force the animated series and I

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<v Speaker 3>suspect the future of streaming entertainment as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian, nice to have you back on sir. How you doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Always a pleasure, and I do not use that term lightly.

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<v Speaker 5>It is literally always a pleasure. I was in a

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<v Speaker 5>good mood before I saw you. Just now now I'm

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<v Speaker 5>in a great mood.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you, well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a nice conversation before this conversation off air,

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<v Speaker 3>and it seems that my NERD credentials have expanded greatly,

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<v Speaker 3>very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Share that story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I'm reading this great book Now it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the.

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<v Speaker 4>Author's name, Steve Kozak. I don't know the name of

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<v Speaker 4>the book, but it.

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<v Speaker 5>Is about the Star Wars Holiday special. And I saw

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<v Speaker 5>this name Mo Kelly all throughout the book, so I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, oh, I'm talking to him tomorrow. So I've

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<v Speaker 5>been reading your name all over because we're doing press

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<v Speaker 5>worldwide international tour for Robo Force, and that is.

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<v Speaker 4>The book I I'm reading while on the tour.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi praise and I appreciate you for that, But let

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<v Speaker 3>me respond in kind. Everyone has seen your work, and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean everyone. Some may have seen your comedy specials

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<v Speaker 3>you produce for Kevin Hart, Jim Gaffigan, Andrew Schultz, built

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<v Speaker 3>Ingwell and others. Some know you work with icons on

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<v Speaker 3>Earth series installments. I'm always intrigued as to what motivates

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<v Speaker 3>you in this media space. What makes a good story

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<v Speaker 3>to tell or show?

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<v Speaker 5>In my mind, anything good needs two things, heart and humor.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know I always give two examples.

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<v Speaker 5>The perfect examples of that premise are seven you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the Brad Pitt Morgan Freeman movie and Bride'smaids.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven Dark Mean, What's in the Box?

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<v Speaker 5>The John Doe, Oh, the terrible blood gore. There's also

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of humor, like a lot just because you've

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<v Speaker 5>got a library card and make your Yoda one of

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<v Speaker 5>the funniest lines of all time. Conversely, Bride'smaids, people pooping

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<v Speaker 5>in stores, getting drunk at parties, knocking over fountains. There's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of heart in that movie. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of pathos the movie. Yes, it's about all the girls

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<v Speaker 5>getting back together and all the craziness at a wedding

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<v Speaker 5>and everything, but it's also fundamentally about friendship and marriage,

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<v Speaker 5>so you need both.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give you an even crazier example.

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<v Speaker 5>The greatest movie of last year, The Beekeeper. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 5>said it, dumbass action movie, stoopidter I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>I dressed like him for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 5>But it literally opens if you watch the movie again,

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<v Speaker 5>if you haven't seen it, it literally opens with like

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<v Speaker 5>this pretty powerful scene between Jason Statham and Alicia Rashad,

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Like this pretty intimate scene of them, like

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<v Speaker 5>not sexually intimate, but like two people having coffee as

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<v Speaker 5>the sunsets this very powerful surrogate mother story where her

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<v Speaker 5>surrogate like.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it's a dumbass action movie, but that scene.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes the movie work, and without that I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>be talking about it right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting you said that not to name job, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was just speaking to the director of The Beekeeper

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<v Speaker 3>and also his latest film, A working Man, David Ayre,

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<v Speaker 3>last week on this show. So it's it's almost serendipitous

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<v Speaker 3>that you happen to mention The Beekeeper. But I can

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<v Speaker 3>see where you're coming from. Let me ask you this

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Animation has seemingly gone under a remodel over

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<v Speaker 3>the decades. What was originally just for kids is now

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<v Speaker 3>for adults and kids, and this underlying action figure market

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<v Speaker 3>also supported by both I need not tell you that,

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<v Speaker 3>but why do you I think animation has become ageless,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's appeal ageless in many respects.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's because we start I always say, like

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<v Speaker 4>Was before Star Wars to a.

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<v Speaker 5>Certain degree, you could argue from a pop culture point

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<v Speaker 4>Was before Star Trek.

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<v Speaker 5>Even it was the first brand that had a movie,

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<v Speaker 5>then another movie, toys, then a TV show and everything else,

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<v Speaker 5>plates bowls, t shirts. So it's like we've gotten to

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<v Speaker 5>this multi generational.

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<v Speaker 4>Stage of pop culture.

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<v Speaker 5>I played with Bumblebee, I played with Optimist Prime. So

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<v Speaker 5>does my six year old kid last night. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's a huge part of what's also happened with animation,

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<v Speaker 5>because the same way I grew up watching Transformers and

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<v Speaker 5>my parents didn't. When my kids got into Rescue Bots

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<v Speaker 5>initially and Dino Trucks and now Transformers, I'm with them, like,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so excited to sit on the couch with them

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<v Speaker 5>and watch this. And that wasn't going on in the

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<v Speaker 5>nineties or eighties, let alone the seventies.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that.

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<v Speaker 5>Had a lot to do with the switch, the transition.

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<v Speaker 5>And a great example of that is the original X Men,

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<v Speaker 5>which of course now we call X Men ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 5>But I watched X Men by myself, but in retrospect, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I think my parents would have loved it too.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you in your mind effectively translate, explain, describe

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<v Speaker 3>the subtleties, the nuances. Because you talked about Rescue Box,

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<v Speaker 3>we could talk about Transformers, we can talk about rober

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<v Speaker 3>different spaces and people dinal box people understand the subtleties

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<v Speaker 3>and nuances because I know someone's listening, Like my eyes

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<v Speaker 3>are glazing over. I don't understand the differences in all

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<v Speaker 3>these properties. How is it different? Why is it different?

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<v Speaker 3>Why do people find themselves attracted to one summer?

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<v Speaker 5>All Not to be cheesy, but you're asking in a

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<v Speaker 5>have to give you a very simple answer. It's the writing.

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<v Speaker 5>The writing creates the characters. And everybody talks about.

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<v Speaker 4>The world and world building and cannon.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we use these big artsy fartsy words like

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<v Speaker 4>The truth of the matter is it's about characters.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I always have responded to Jedi Luke and Ahsoka

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<v Speaker 5>but that which brings me into Star Wars is a

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<v Speaker 5>very specific Luke Skywalker, not even a new Hope Luke

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I was watching Wicked for the second time

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<v Speaker 5>with my daughter Sunday night, and like, again, this is

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<v Speaker 5>gonna sound crazy, but the whitest man ever I relate

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<v Speaker 5>to Elthabah. So I'm sitting here almost forty nine white

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<v Speaker 5>green woman in a movie, and like, that's who I

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think that connection is there for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Before we go to your daughter?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's because my life and career are similar

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<v Speaker 5>to the whoop.

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<v Speaker 4>I almost said the S word to the stuff. Not

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<v Speaker 4>that word. I said it S word. My life and.

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<v Speaker 5>Career, especially my career, just happens to connect with what

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<v Speaker 4>My daughter, who.

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<v Speaker 5>Is eleven and has not yet had her teeth kicked

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<v Speaker 5>in the way we all do. After we leave our home,

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<v Speaker 5>our parents home, shenects with Gutland. So again, forty nine

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<v Speaker 5>born and raised in la Completely different connections. But that's

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<v Speaker 5>what makes anything great is you have something in there

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<v Speaker 5>for all of you, for everyone, I mean, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>what pulls you in a character.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Volkwiss, we have to take a quick break, but

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<v Speaker 3>that is a great stopping point and we can all

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<v Speaker 3>marinate on that.

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<v Speaker 2>During the break.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk about Robe Force, the animated series,

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<v Speaker 3>which is going to premiere on April twelfth on two BM,

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<v Speaker 3>speaking with Brian volk Weiss, front of the show, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>but president and CEO of Nasal Company more in just

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<v Speaker 3>a moment, can't if I Am six forty Live everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>Someone has to turning down one on one.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been attacking people and we have the power to

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<v Speaker 3>start it.

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<v Speaker 4>You sure you wouldn't want to join us? Well? That

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<v Speaker 4>went well.

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<v Speaker 5>What was unthinkable a few days ago has become a pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>Those one on ones were infected with some ro code.

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<v Speaker 4>You got this, You're program to lead? You got this?

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<v Speaker 1>You got this?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Duke, she's going to figure this out.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to do so before she does. Using the

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<v Speaker 4>entire army of you a one on ones to attack

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<v Speaker 4>humanity isn't a liberation, it's a slaughter. Heart.

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<v Speaker 3>everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. We're talking about Robo Force,

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<v Speaker 3>the animated series, which is going to premiere April twelfth

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<v Speaker 3>now with Brian volge Weiss, who has been on the

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<v Speaker 3>show a number of times. You know his work from

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<v Speaker 3>Icons on Earth and his many comedy specials that he's produced,

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<v Speaker 3>and animation and action figures. He does a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of everything. But right now, let's talk about Robo Force,

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<v Speaker 3>the animated series. I got to ask you, Brian, sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>I think the city of Detroit gets a bad rap.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like it's nothing but bad news and media

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to the city. RoboCop Detroit, Assault on

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<v Speaker 3>Precinct thirteen Detroit, The Betsy Detroit, The Crow, dark Man,

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<v Speaker 3>Evil Dead Detroit.

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<v Speaker 2>You get by point, why Detroit for Robo Force.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna give you an answer you're not even gonna believe.

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<v Speaker 5>But I will say this before I answer you. I

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<v Speaker 5>believe the Detroit that we showed is positive. You won't

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<v Speaker 5>see any burnt out buildings or any of the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's why it's in Detroit. It's funny to me

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<v Speaker 4>you started with this question.

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<v Speaker 5>We were this close to buying Robo Cop, so I

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<v Speaker 5>had found out while making movies that made us. I

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<v Speaker 5>was in Dallas, which is where RoboCop was shot for

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<v Speaker 5>meant the rights were going back to him in about

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<v Speaker 5>nine months. So we made an offer and we were

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<v Speaker 4>And while that was all going on, we were developing.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope I don't confuse everybody with all the robos

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<v Speaker 5>robo Force. So I said to myself, when we get

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<v Speaker 5>the deal done for RoboCop, we will have RoboCop and

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<v Speaker 5>robo Force work together. Well, I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 5>heard of this company. You seem smart Mode, but maybe

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<v Speaker 5>you don't notice. There's a company called Amazon, and this

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<v Speaker 5>is going to blow your mind.

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<v Speaker 4>They got more money than I do.

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<v Speaker 5>They bought MGM while we were negotiating. So when I

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<v Speaker 5>thought we were about to get the deal done, Amazon

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<v Speaker 5>came in bought MGM. And remember I told you they

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<v Speaker 5>got more money than I do. So we ended up

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<v Speaker 5>not getting RoboCop, but we were already in pre production

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<v Speaker 5>on robo Force, so we left it in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk more about robo Force set the stage for

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<v Speaker 2>the story for me.

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<v Speaker 5>So the story of season one we took from real life.

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<v Speaker 5>What happened in real life was the toy company that

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<v Speaker 5>for the biggest toy launch of all time, robo Force.

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<v Speaker 5>Most toy lines launch with seven characters. Robo Force launch

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<v Speaker 5>with thirty two characters. Most toy lines first waves start

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<v Speaker 5>with maybe one vehicle. Robo Force started with three vehicles.

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<v Speaker 4>You never have a play set for a first wave.

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<v Speaker 5>The biggest playset you've ever seen, of course, except for

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<v Speaker 5>the USS flag.

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<v Speaker 4>They go to Toy Fair.

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<v Speaker 5>And for anybody who doesn't know what toy Fair is,

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<v Speaker 5>imagine like the Sundance Film Festival for toys. But imagine

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<v Speaker 5>if there were no other film festivals, only Sundance.

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<v Speaker 4>That's toy Fair.

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<v Speaker 5>So they go to Toy Fair nineteen eighty three, they're like,

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<v Speaker 5>look at this, isn't this great? And everybody thought it

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<v Speaker 5>was great. Toys r US made the biggest order in

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<v Speaker 5>the history of toys.

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<v Speaker 4>R US two million units of robo Force Wave one.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>You might be asking yourself, well, if it was such

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<v Speaker 5>a big deal, how.

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<v Speaker 4>Come nobody really knows what robo Force is?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>That announcement was on a Tuesday guess what was announced

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<v Speaker 5>on Thursday, Transformers. So Transformers comes out, destroys robo Force.

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<v Speaker 4>Sticking with the same comp.

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<v Speaker 5>Robo Force toys r us order two million goes to

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<v Speaker 5>two fifty KB had done.

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<v Speaker 4>Half a million order.

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<v Speaker 5>Goes to fifty destroys to robo Force. Not only that

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<v Speaker 5>bankrupts the company that made it. So we took that

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<v Speaker 5>story and made it our DNA. So at the beginning

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<v Speaker 5>of robo Force, essentially you see Roboforce getting announced to

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<v Speaker 5>the world like Yay, we're the best.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna save the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Across town an evil company, Utopia Ages they announced their

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<v Speaker 5>new robots, the UA one o Ones. The UA one

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<v Speaker 5>o ones are much better than Roboforce, and robo Force

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<v Speaker 5>is decimated. So for fifteen years, the members of Robofce

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<v Speaker 5>have miserable lives, horrible jobs, they fall apart, they get

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<v Speaker 4>It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>Then, believe it or not, the UA one o ones

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<v Speaker 5>they get hacked, they get corrupted, and guess who is

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<v Speaker 5>the only force that can stop the UA one o

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<v Speaker 5>ones robo Force.

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<v Speaker 4>You got it?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, never we can invite you to Jeopardy. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>our story. So the story takes place fifteen years after

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<v Speaker 5>they had their teeth kicked in and their shins broke

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<v Speaker 5>and all of that. And this is what I can

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<v Speaker 5>promise anybody who watches. It's a redemption story. There is

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<v Speaker 5>not a single character at the beginning of the series

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<v Speaker 5>that's the same at the end. Heroes become villains, villains

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<v Speaker 5>become heroes, and you're watching everybody evolve in a way

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<v Speaker 5>that's really I think typical of life in that it's

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<v Speaker 5>your experiences, you know, going back to Wicked, it really

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<v Speaker 5>is your experiences that make us. And we show that

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<v Speaker 5>Robo Force rising basically all but from the grave.

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<v Speaker 4>They learned a lot in.

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<v Speaker 5>Those fifteen years of being in the wilderness, and now

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<v Speaker 5>they're finally getting their shot at being heroes.

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<v Speaker 3>My time is run short with you, Brian Vogewise, very

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<v Speaker 3>quickly tell me the significance of this being on two

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<v Speaker 3>B and the future of streaming as you see it.

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<v Speaker 3>You have that free model where everyone else struggles seemingly

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<v Speaker 3>with charging the subscription.

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<v Speaker 5>Why to be so we were very lucky, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we financed Robo Force and then we took it out

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<v Speaker 5>to the market. So it was obviously a little risky,

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<v Speaker 5>but we got a bunch of offers and we went

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<v Speaker 5>with tub because they remind me of like the early

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<v Speaker 5>days of streaming in that they're very aggressive in a

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<v Speaker 5>good way.

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<v Speaker 4>They're very confident, and they really.

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<v Speaker 5>Picked their battles carefully, and one of the battles that

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<v Speaker 5>they picked was that they are free, so they've made

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<v Speaker 5>it so easy for anybody to sign up, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>part of the reason, I think, other.

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<v Speaker 4>Than Netflix in the YouTube I think to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Is number three overall and number one as it relates

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<v Speaker 5>to the rise and percentage of all the viewers that

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<v Speaker 5>they have. So we wanted to be with a partner

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<v Speaker 5>that was kind of young and scrappy like us, and

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<v Speaker 5>like would fight to win and not just be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>let's put it out and see how it does.

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<v Speaker 4>That was our goal and we have had no better partner.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't have a better guest. Brian Volk Weisse Robo Force.

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<v Speaker 3>The animated series premiere is April twelfth. On to me,

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Volk, wise, thank you so much for always coming

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<v Speaker 3>on and sharing your work with us. And you know

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<v Speaker 3>it's not going to be the last time, so I

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<v Speaker 3>look forward in advance to our next meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>At Zoe's Mode. Thank you for having me.

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