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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight Weekend. No, here is your host? TJ leaves.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a weekend that has world title fights in Dublin,

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Ireland and also in Anaheim, California, by the way, and

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we're ready to preview it, and we got tons of fight.

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Speaker 1: News to get to.

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Speaker 2: It is the Big Fight Weekend preview pod. I am

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the somewhat lucid host, although I don't know how lucid.

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TJ reeves. Hello to Big Dan Rayphiel. He's had an

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interesting week. There will be lawyers. What did Shakespeare say?

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Speaker 3: First thing?

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Speaker 1: We do kill all the lawyers. Nonetheless, good to be

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with you.

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Speaker 2: Ready to preview some fights, talk about some news head

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to the weekend. We got March madness. I'll explain more

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about that in a moment. But how are things are you?

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Are you off the phone with one eight hundred? I'll

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sue you or whatever else you for legal advice? All

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these law firms and everybody else. I have time to

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do the pod or you're done with the lawyers for

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at least a little while.

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Speaker 3: Here I am. I've talked to more lawyers this week.

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I mean I talked to lawyers in boxing all the time,

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but I talked to more this week in the last

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few days. Then if you took like managers, promoters and

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fighters and combined them, unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: And we should mention you're not in legal trouble yourself.

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Speaker 2: You're actually being sought out, including by an anonymous number.

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Speaker 1: We got to get to this.

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Speaker 2: We got to get to this about Jiyopataia and you're

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being sought out about lawyers.

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Speaker 1: So more on that in a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for finding us on the pod feed as

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we're previewing going into the weekend. Full disclosure, I am

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headed to Las Vegas, where this weekend I'm on the

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college basketball call of the Mountain West Conference title. Raypael

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only cares about Duke and the ACC title. Correct this

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weekend in Charlotte, I am in Vegas, Big Dan Thomas

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and Mack Center Mountain West Conference title game.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the live call Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Will it be the likes of Utah State, New Mexico,

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San Diego State, who wins that tournament goes to the

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NCAA Tournament. Maybe they end up planning Duke somewhere down

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the road. So I'm headed to Vegas for the weekend,

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but we're getting the pod out in the preview mode.

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So the first mention here, we will not have a

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recap podcast because of all the crazy college basketball and

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selection Sunday and me traveling back from Vegas. But we

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will hear from you and one time Keith Thurman on

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Sunday night on this podfeed. That's why you got to

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be subscribed up peeps, Apple, Spreaker, Spotify, rate us and

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review us Big Dan and Keith Thurman prior to the

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Sebastian Fundora fight upcoming later this month here on the

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pot feed coming on.

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Speaker 3: He was loquacious, always always.

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Speaker 2: We love one one time is one of my favorites,

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not just because he lives in Tampa Bay area, but

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he is versatile in that he is an athlete beyond

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just boxing. He plays musical instruments and then he'll start

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talking philosophy, politics, whatever else.

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Speaker 1: We love. We love that part.

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Speaker 3: I have known Keith Thurman since he first started out

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in professional boxing and always been a cool guy to

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deal with.

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Speaker 2: You will good, good setup, good tease. You will enjoy

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hearing Dan with him on Sunday night. All right, so

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preview mode here for you and me. Let's begin here

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before we get to the lawyers and the lawyer conversations,

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let's talk boxing in the ring. Golden Boy to owned

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Saturday Night card Anaheim, California. A non title fight between

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Arnold Barbosa and Kenneth Sims is the main event, but

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we got other world title fights on the card as well,

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some meat on the bone, if I do say so here.

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Speaker 1: From Golden Boy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's start first with Barbosa and Sims. What

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are we looking for in this matchup?

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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned it. It's not a world title fight,

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it's not even officially a title eliminator, but it's a

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the fact though title eliminator because you have two guys

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in Barbosa, you know, who's been a good contender for

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a long long time. He's only got the one loss

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in his last fight Forgivable. He lost the decision when

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he challenged Tiyathimo Lopez for the WBO and the lineal title.

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got that opportunity. That was the Times Square fight card.

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really good that night, obviously a lot better than he

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did when he lost. Such of course, Stevenson, but certainly

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a forgivable loss agar Ola Brobosa. So he is moving

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up to the one hundred and forty seven pound weight class,

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in a similar situation, also really good fighter, kind of underrated,

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unfortunately hasn't gotten a huge amount of activity, let's say,

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in recent times. He also, though, is coming off of

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a loss that took place in August, a few months

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after Barbosa's lost. He lost by the slimmest of margins,

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a majority decision in an excellent fight against Oscar Duarte,

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who traveled to Chicago, which is Kenny Simms's hometown. They

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put on a tremendous battle, and you know, he came

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up just a hair short in that fight. And so

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he's also moving up to Walter Waite. So he've got

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two guys who were very good, legit, solid contenders with

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some good backgrounds on their resumes as far as being

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an amateur standout, et cetera, coming off you know, tough

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losses in one hundred and forty pound notable fights, and

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now both are going up to one forty seven to

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fight each other. And you know, the guy that loses

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is going to have to figure some stuff out because

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debut at one forty seven. Not his debut, I mean

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but he's you know, he's now here, I guess for

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full time at one forty seven, and say with Barbosa,

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of you loses again, it's uh, you know, you kind

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of gotta figure things out. So uh, like I said,

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it's a the fact though eliminated because Walter Waite right

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now has got uh, you know a variety of title holders.

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and Arler Barbosa are right there as far as being

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good quality guys that you can match up with if

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you're not dealing with a mandatory and you don't have

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like a super fight. But they're guys that I think

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fans recognize their names and they usually you know, bring it,

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so uh, I expect this to be a pretty interesting fight.

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I have long been a fan of Kenny Simms. He's

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been in some good matchups. He was a heck of

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an amateur fighter, you know, has been on my mind,

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he was a he was a big time prospect coming.

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you know, close type fights, but just a skilled guy,

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like a lunch pal guy. You know, if you're gonna

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fight this man, you better be prepared to go the

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distance and have a rough night in Barbosa. Kind of similar.

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but again same kind of thing. You know, bring a

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lunch pal you know. Maybe not the most exciting in

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terms of Barbosa, but he knows how to fight. He

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wants to fight the best guys, and he's experienced against

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good opponents. So now they're going to do it against

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each other. So this is the main event on Golden

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out of contract with his own so this is a

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one off of their agreement as they still continue apparently

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to hammer to try to hammer out a longer term deal.

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in terms of the overall card where they don't have

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a long term deal, like I can live with it

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because it's not a bad show. Again, not the main

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event being a world title fight, but it makes up

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for it in terms of some of the other stuff

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on the show. But I like this main event as

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far as you know, unofficial stakes, you know, like survival

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basically of your career as a headliner.

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Speaker 2: It has significance for whoever wins it at well, which

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Speaker 3: And as you mentioned, and it also one where thing

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Barbosa hasn't had a chance away to headline at home.

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for him, I know he's very you know, him and

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his team are very much looking forward to being able

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to you know, to fight in front of the hometown crew.

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He's from Los Angeles. He has not been in those

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types of fights where he lives. He's been on the

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road for years, going to places like England and you know,

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New York City, like for the t fight in Manchester,

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England when he fought Jack Catterall and got you know

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a close win over him, et cetera. So you know,

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he gets a chance to bring it home fun in

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Saudi Arabia, been all over.

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Speaker 1: The place he did, He does, and we'll see what

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happens to the main event.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing is the co feature is the unified

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strawway champ Oscar Colazo, who is actually headlined a couple

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of times in various places for Golden Boy, Exciting Fighter,

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Porto Rico Fighter and Jesus Ouro is the is the opponent.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I got to confess, I don't know much

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about him.

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Speaker 2: I rely on you, but I think we're anxious to

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see if Kolaso has another big night here defending those

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two strawweight titles.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, he has the unified title. He is the

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Ring magazine champion. He's considered a lineal champion. He looked

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incredibly outstanding when he fought in the unification fight to

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maintain his WBO belt and also to win the WBA belt.

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This is back in November of twenty twenty four on

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the Latino Knight that was in Saudi Arabia when he

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obliterated your boy Nei Am Trong, Mman Noon Nemstrong in

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the unification fight.

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Speaker 2: Knock CP freshmart right also is the stage name whichever

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you'd like to call him.

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Speaker 1: Alaso butchered him.

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Speaker 3: He sure so, he's now so. Before the the arm

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Trong fight, he had gone the route in a decision

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win against Hirado Azapata. Since then include between the Neomtrong

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and then two more defenses, he scored knockouts. He's a

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very big you know, straweights. He don't get a lot

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of knockouts. You know, there's a few guys Roman Gonzalez

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the day. Got a lot of knockouts, but mostly strawwaits.

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of the reasons why he's so fun to watch is

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because he's a big knockout artist. He's got thirteen pro fights,

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He's thirteen to zero. He's won ten by knockout. Now,

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the negative part of this situation is that had Golden

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Boy finished their deal with his own and been in

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a contract, they would be getting more money to put

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this card on, and that would have meant we would

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have seen a fight that was already agreed to between

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Oscar Colaso with the WBC champion Melvin Jerusalem. It would

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have been a three belt unification fight. Now, he already

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has a victory against Melvin Jerusalem back when he won

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the title back in twenty twenty three. That was the

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fight where he wanted to get his first ever card. No,

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that was a defense. I guess he knocked him out,

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Speaker 1: Believe, I believe he won the title for the first

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timing instrument. Yes, we were double chestress.

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Speaker 3: So in twenty twenty three, he knocked out Jerusalem in

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the seventh round, he won the WBO title. So since that,

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since that loss that Jerusalem suffered, he went on to

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win the BBC title, which he presently holds, and they

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made the rematch, which would have been a unification fight,

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but because of the haircut that Golden Boy took on

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the money for this show, as far as I understand,

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their budget was not as great to get Jerusalem to

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get into the ring at a trim somewhere, so they

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trimmed it from that fight. So out was Jerusalem. Incomes

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A very indistinguished type of opponent. If you look at

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the resume, you're not going to see anybody that you've

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probably ever heard of. And so while I'm a huge

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fan of Oscar Colaso, I think he's one of the

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most exciting fighters in the sport today. His opponent, in

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my opinion, does leave quite a bit to be desired. Certainly,

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it pales in comparison if you were giving him a

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unification fight, even if he had already defeated that fighter.

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Melvin Jerusalem has fought in the recent fights a lot

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better I think than he fought the night that he

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he got knocked out by Klaso, you know, a few

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years ago. So it does take a hit in that sense.

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to see Oscar Colaso, so you know, you can take

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the good, you take the bad, And in that sense,

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he'll fight the fight if he wins, hopefully the Golden Boy,

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if they get their disonned stuff together, that they can

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now come back after that and make the unification fight,

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because there's really, honestly, at stroweight where the money's not

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big and neither are the fighters, there's no excuse not

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to be making unification fights and did the crown. And

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the wild thing to me is, given the lack of

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riches in the way class, there's never been an undisputed

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cru strawweight champion. And whether you're talking three belts or

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two belts or whatever, Ricardo Lopez had unified titles. Ironbore

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Calderon to my recollection, a unified titles, but it's not.

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There's not a lot of like unification fights in the division.

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And there's never been, off the top of my head anyway,

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never been an undisputed champ. And it's really unfortunate because

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it's a they're little guys, but they usually provide tremendous action.

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They throw a million punches.

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Speaker 2: And if you watch Colaso, he does just that. And

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that's and let's see how long this lasts with the

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little known opponent in the co feature.

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Speaker 3: Ye horror, by the way, like I said, is his record,

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you know, you never know what's gonna happen you get

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on the chin. I mean, now, he does have three losses.

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He's never been stopped, but in his thirteen wins, he's

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only stopped two opponents. That's not necessarily, you know, a

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good thing for him, because I just don't think he's

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stopping Oscar Colaso.

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Speaker 2: We'll see that's the co feature. But wait, there's more.

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Alexis Roacha also on this show against all right, here

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we go whatever's left of Jojo Diaz, but we see

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Roacha back at Welter Wade here also on this Golden

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Boys show Saday night.

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Speaker 3: So Roacha he's coming off a fight he hasn't fought

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since December of twenty twenty four. That was a great, great,

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exciting fight against rabl Krriell. They fought to a draw,

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a tremendous battle. They were supposed to have had a

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rematch recently. It got canceled at the last minute because

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Roacha was having issues with his weight and so the

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fight was canceled. Then, if you recall, this was the

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card that was just in January. Again, Golden Boy was

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no longer you know, in their contract. This was another

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one off they did and they ended up replacing Kuriell

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ended up fighting a replacement that they took from the

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undercard and he won like a pretty non descript fight.

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So apparently roach has got his situation under control. Now

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he's back in the ring for this undercard, and I

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like Broch, he's exciting to watch. Win or lose, You're

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gonna get a pretty good fight. Usually a nice guy

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and you know, hard worker and all that. But Joseph

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Diaz is long, long, long long past his best. I

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mean he was at his best at one hundred and

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thirty pounds when he won a world title. He was

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a United States Olympian and looked like he had a

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good future. And you know, he never did get that rematch.

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It he did deserve against Tevin Farmer, who got that

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close win against him to take the title. He got

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screwed it out of the rematch, and pretty much ever

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since then it's been mostly downhill. He had a draw

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after that, and then he got one win against Fortuna,

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and then he lost three fights in a row and

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it's been pretty much all downhill since then. He's won

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some fights, but they've been the you know, the the

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jermokes that he's won against anybody who's halfway decent.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is clearly there for Roacha to have a

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big night, but he's been inactive.

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Speaker 1: Will he be a bit rusty?

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Speaker 3: Well, here's your thing about it. I mean, like I

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was saying to you, Jojo Diaz Is has a name,

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but he has he's lost like so many. I mean,

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I'm not a guy that like throws a guy away.

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If you lose a fight, I get it. It's boxing.

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You're gonna lose, You're gonna win some. But when you

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go on such an extended period of time where you

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can't win consistently, and if you do win, it's only

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against the complete, you know, low level opponents, and anytime

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you even within a halfway decent guy, you know, you lose.

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he had that war with Regis Progra, who's been looking

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pretty shotski himself in recent fights. And Regis won that

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fight barely, but got the job done and he won

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that decision, and that was yet another loss for Jojo Diaz.

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The thing about is Diez was at his best at

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one thirty. He had problems at one thirty five. He

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lost that one forty two against Progray. Now he's going

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up to one forty seven to fight Rocha. So you're

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talking about quite a bit of weight above where he's

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been at his best. And he's not that big of

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a guy. So to me, you know, Roacha may not

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be you know, at the top world championship level at

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the moment, but he's sure as heck in my opinion. Anyway.

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You know, a lot younger, a lot stronger, a lot,

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a lot more active, you know, not active, I shouldn't say,

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but more better, a better recent opposition. I guess that

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it just looks like uh, just a look, Jojo Diaz

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is fucking desperate for some money, that's the bottom line.

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And you know they don't with a name that puts

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me in Golden Boy, which is working them for a

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very long time. You know, he has no no place

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to negotiate. Here's here, here's the offer. If you want

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to do it, let's do the fight. If not, no, sorry,

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but that's that's what the budget is. So you know

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he's in a no win situation. So I don't you know,

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Roacha should win this fight, in my opinion, should be

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a pretty handily a handy victory, and that's that fight.

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But you know, then you still got one more world

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title fight on the card, and.

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Speaker 2: That would be Gabriella Fondorra. Before her brother fights later

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in the month. She will just defend the undisputed women's

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flyweight championship against a mandatory challenger.

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Speaker 1: We said there was some meat on the bone.

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Speaker 2: Here for this Golden Boy de Own show, So tell

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me a little more about this fight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Claso and Fondora for their weight

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classes and where they're at, they're very interesting and exciting fighters.

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That's just you kind of you know, it's unfortunate they

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don't get the top level opponents. I already discussed what

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happened with Colasmo not getting the unification against Jerusalem. Gabrielle

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Fandora is one of the top female boxers pound for

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pount in the sports. She is undefeated at seventeen to

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oho now I knockouts. You mentioned she is the younger

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sister of Sebastian Vendora, who is the WBC's Junior Middleway Champion.

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And what I like about Gabrielle Fandor when I watch

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her is compared to most female boxers, she's a gal

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that knocks out her opponents. I mean, you don't see

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that many. She's riding the street. She's knocked got three

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opponents in a row, yep. And between those three opponents

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that she's beaten in her last three fights, they had

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a combined only two losses, one of them was undefeated.

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But she's still knocking these women out and doing so,

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you know, fairly dominating fashion. You know. So she's up

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like in pretty one sided scores on the scorecards before

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she gots them out. So she's very exciting to watch. Now,

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Her opponent in this particular front is a woman named

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Viviana Ruiz Cordera Corridor. She is the WBA's interim champion

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and the mandatory challenger. She's only ten wins and two losses,

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did not have a big resume. She's also, by the way,

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forty three years old, and she's fighting a girl and

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a woman in Gabrielle Fondora, who was basically half r Age.

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Gabrielle is twenty years younger. Okay, so the opponent is

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the mandatory is forty three and Gabrielle is twenty three.

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So that's a humongous red flag for me. Anyway, when

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I look at the matchup, so again, to me, this

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is more of a I know it's a mandatory, but

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it's more of a showcase sort of the same way

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I look at the Colaso fight, like the main event,

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Barbosa against Simms. In my mind, that does shape up

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as a very competitive fight where you know, I couldn't

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fight you if you told me you thought one guy

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was gonna win and I thought the otherwise other guy

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was gonna win. You know, on paper, it looks like

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it's a pretty even type of fight. Not so much

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with the other three bounds we're talking about whether it's

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Roach should being a big favorite or Fondora you know,

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or Colaso. So there's that as far as the cargoes.

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Speaker 2: All right, lots of good action on that. One more

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prominent fight of note and this one will be earlier

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in the day. The Queensbury dis Own main event US

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time Saturday afternoon Saturday night in Dublin, Ireland as James

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Jazza Dickens will take on Anthony Casace, a former world

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champion himself. This is for Dickens WBA Junior Lightweight title. Now, interestingly,

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Dickens was supposed to have fought on the night of

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the Samurai card in late December, but his opponent got

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hurt and so that shifted now to this fight. So

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pick it up on how this came about and what

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do we think of the matchup Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Well, like you said, he was on that card that

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the headliner was Noia in a way, and obviously they

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had Nakatani in the co features. They were trying to

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set up their fight that was just announced and unfortunately

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his opponents assume he had an injury and he was

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out of the show. So you know, Dickens just sort

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of like lost out on that opportunity, lost out on

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a great payday in Saudi Arabia, but still had the title.

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And so you know, I guess his team went and

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look to see if they can make what's the most attractive,

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lucrative interest thing fight they can find, and it turned

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out that it will be Dickens making his way to Belfast,

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Northern Ireland to fight the irishman in Kasachi, who's you know,

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got a fan base and like you said, he's a

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former title holder himself, and you know it should be

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in you know, if you see any kind of Irish

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type fight. I've been to fights with featured Irish fighters

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in New York, can only imagine what it's like when

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you're in a place like the Dublin I mean, they

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they love their fighters, they go crazy. Obviously, Ksachi's gonna

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have massive fan support. It should be quite the atmosphere.

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They're doing this at the Three Arena in Dublin. That

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is the same arena where, for example, Katie Taylor had

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her two fights with Shantell Cameron that were you know,

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very very excellent fights that were also you know, huge

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turnout from the Irish fans that were there to see

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Katie do her thing. And again this is you know,

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Ireland versus England, so you know Dickens is in a

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in a you know, he's a very beatable guy. He's

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got five loss, has been stopped four times. Not to

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say that Kachasi is invincible, but you know him being

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at the home, this is one of those deals where

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it's like, okay, you can definitely see perhaps the title

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changing hands. He the regular title back in July of

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last year when he went on the road to his

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credit fought in Istanbul, Turkey on an IBA card. He

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was a heavy underdog against Bargazia, who was an Olympic

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medal winner, and he shocked everybody that night. We're getting

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a fourth round knockout. That was a major, major upset.

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He's supposed to make that first defense, like I said,

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against Tssumi in Saudi Arabia didn't happen. So now he's

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making his first defense against Kasachi. Whether he survives through

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this defense with his title intact, I am highly suspected

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about Kasachi. He's got just a one loss. He got

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to go way back to twenty seventeen, a decision against

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Martin Ward. He's looked good since then. You know, one titles,

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one a title and has some solid wins. Beat Joe Cordina,

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that was the big upset where he knocked him out

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and dominated to win the belt the IBF DELP. This

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is back in twenty twenty four and one of the

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big shows I had in Riad. Then he had Denny

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beat josh Warrington in Wembley in a big card. This

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was the undercard of Anthony Joshua was getting knocked out

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by Daniel Dubois. And now he come back and he

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has another good, solid victory in uh in May of

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last year where where he had a knockout against the

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Lee Wood. So, I mean, that's that's some pretty good Cordina,

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Warrington Wood back to back.

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Speaker 2: Those are three names and a couple of world champs. Yeah,

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I mean, so were world champs that he's beaten.

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Speaker 3: Right, like Wood and Warrington. Maybe they weren't at their

470
00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:20,319
absolute best, but they were still pretty damn good fighters

471
00:21:20,319 --> 00:21:21,920
when he beat them. And Cordeina at the time was

472
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,279
undefeated and you know, was supposed to be the heavy

473
00:21:24,279 --> 00:21:26,920
favorite in that fight. So you know the fact that

474
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,160
he's at home, the fact that he's on the kind

475
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,839
of streak he's on the fact he's been you know,

476
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,720
in against those three good names. He knocked two of

477
00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:38,480
them out. Like it's hard to see Casace uh, you know,

478
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,319
not not taking the title this fight. But Dickens did

479
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000
pull the upset in in the stand ball when he

480
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,599
beat the hotshot Olympic medal winner that was undefeated, that

481
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,200
everybody over in that area was trying to build towards

482
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,440
and thought it was gonna be something spectacular, and he

483
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,079
shocked everybody. Not so sure, he shocks that. A lot

484
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,960
of people come this weekend on this card.

485
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Speaker 2: Okay again, that is in uh bab Blind's Saturday afternoon

486
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,519
on diz own US time before the Golden Boys show

487
00:22:05,519 --> 00:22:09,920
Saurday night. It's primetime obviously from Queensbury for that.

488
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 1: Now some news.

489
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,079
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm trying to travel back from Indianapolis. I

490
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,759
did travel back from Indianapolis calling college basketball Tuesday night,

491
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,839
got back, got some stuff done, did a live college

492
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,680
basketball show Tuesday and then my man's rayheel is like

493
00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,799
on a rampage on social media. One swatting the savages

494
00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:34,960
and the trolls, but two you're tweeting about lawyers and

495
00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:37,400
lawyers contacting you, and I read into this a little

496
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,359
more on what is this? Is this lawyers for the prosecution?

497
00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:43,240
Is this injury?

498
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Speaker 1: Personal luxury?

499
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Speaker 3: Lawyers?

500
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Speaker 2: All right, So this relates to ji Opataiah, who when

501
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,200
last we saw him on Sunday night, was winning in

502
00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:53,440
Las Vegas, and the threat was there after the fight

503
00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:55,920
that they were looking he and ZUFA Boxing and Dana

504
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,519
White into maybe suing the IBF.

505
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: That has now escalated, and.

506
00:23:01,599 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: You pick it up from there because you've had a

507
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,079
bit of a weird day, my friend, hearing from lawyers.

508
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,559
Speaker 3: So just for the clarity's sake, the IBF, despite their

509
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,920
news dump on Friday Saturday night saying that that they

510
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,119
had withdrawn the sanction of the of the I take

511
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,759
that back Friday night, forty eight hours before the fight,

512
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,640
after the press conference, they as we discussed on the

513
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,559
preview or I mean, I guess on a post show

514
00:23:28,599 --> 00:23:31,400
on some of the in the recap exactly that they

515
00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:35,559
had put out a statement on on a late Friday

516
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,920
night that they were going that they had withdrawn the

517
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,960
sanction of the fight, which I'd only agreed to sanction

518
00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:43,440
earlier in the week, and and they cited their specific

519
00:23:43,519 --> 00:23:46,559
rule and if a champion fights in an unsanctioned out

520
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:50,559
at the weight that whether that champion wins or loses,

521
00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:53,279
then they will vacate the title. So Gi o'catiah fit

522
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:58,039
all of those those those elements. He did fight the fight,

523
00:23:58,519 --> 00:24:01,799
it was unsanctioned, he fought at the weight, and he

524
00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:04,519
won the fight, and so therefore by by their statement,

525
00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:06,279
he should have been stripped by what they said. Now

526
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,799
the IBF has backtrack. They put out another statement where

527
00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:12,480
they gave their version of the story but said they

528
00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:15,519
were considering their situation. They made up or they stated

529
00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:17,480
that they felt like maybe Opa TI didn't know what

530
00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:20,599
was going on. I mean, in my opinion, they're trying

531
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:23,240
to avoid a lawsuit because they didn't do the right

532
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:26,440
thing in this particular case. That said. I'm mine in

533
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,720
my own business, working on some stuff in my office

534
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:30,720
on what day was it?

535
00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 4: It must have been on Wednesday, on Tuesday, on Tuesday

536
00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:37,920
night for the first time thing, and I get a

537
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,920
text message and the text message was from a number

538
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,400
that's not in my phone. So but uh okay, So

539
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,839
I look at the text message and it was a

540
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,960
three page document.

541
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: I had a teacher. I'm so fucking blind, like I

542
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,079
saw at the top of it, but I had to

543
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,799
like cop I had to like do a cutt and

544
00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:57,200
paste from my phone and I had to email it

545
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,680
to myself and blow it up so I could read

546
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,839
it because I'm so blind. But anyway, the gist of

547
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,599
the letter was it was from a lawyer from a

548
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:06,519
It was on lawyer let like a law firm's letterhead

549
00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:11,160
from Las Vegas. The lawyer's name, I believe was Jordan Smith.

550
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,599
It was a letter that was addressed to Mauricio Suliman

551
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,319
from the WBC, I believe it or not. And in

552
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:21,359
the He's like, what in the world does Maursio Suliman

553
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,279
have to do with an IBF championship or theoretically an

554
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:25,039
IVF championship.

555
00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: We're going to connect them dots here, we are going.

556
00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:27,599
Speaker 3: To connect them dots.

557
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 4: So uh.

558
00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:31,039
Speaker 3: I looked in to see, like, Okay, is this an

559
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,559
actual lawyer, Is this an actual law firm? Yes? Yes, yes,

560
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:37,240
it checked all the boxes I knew of. Another one

561
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:40,880
of my boxing writing colleagues who I knew had gotten

562
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,880
this letter also. We touched base and kind of compared

563
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,400
notes a little bit, and he had also received the

564
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,599
same thing, and we had all he'd also check things out.

565
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,079
So the two of us who've been doing this a while,

566
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:54,119
we're pretty well convinced, like this is legit. Like as

567
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:54,720
far as like.

568
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,039
Speaker 1: This is a legitimate lawyer.

569
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: It's got some crank correct acting like a lawyer, it's

570
00:25:59,319 --> 00:25:59,960
a lawyer.

571
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: Continue.

572
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: The number that it came from which I called was

573
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:07,480
obviously like what do they call that? A like burner phone?

574
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,960
Because it was said the number was disabled or disinected

575
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:10,400
or whatever.

576
00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: My first thought would be that this is a scammer

577
00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:16,559
who's trying to hack my phone. No, no, whatever, you're

578
00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:17,960
far more brave than I am.

579
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: It's not about brave types. First of all, the letter

580
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,559
was seeking it was It's clear that this letter, if

581
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:26,680
it was sent to Mauricio, was also sent to other

582
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,839
people within the business, the other organizational presidents and other

583
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,519
promoters and people of consequence within the business. It was

584
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:36,640
the demand for record preservation. So if you're not familiar,

585
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,960
if somebody's about to do a lawsuit and they believe

586
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,880
there are people out there that have things that would

587
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,400
be germane to their case, they do a court a

588
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,319
llegal letter that that demands, just so it's on the record.

589
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:49,839
Don't destroy your emails related to this subject. Don't destroy

590
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,240
your text messages, don't destroy you if you're a journalist,

591
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,759
don't destroy your notes. Blah blah blah. Now I have

592
00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:56,519
some experience in this, so if you go back to

593
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:58,839
my days at ESPN, I can think of at least

594
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,319
one occasion where there was about to be a litigation

595
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,559
and this was not on the negative side. I was

596
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,480
on the ESPN employee and I was copied on an

597
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:10,839
email from the ESPN legal department that included myself and

598
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,079
about twenty other people that were involved in boxing in

599
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,880
some capacity at the network, telling us, Hey, there's this

600
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,920
brewing litigation between us and XYZ on this topic. Make

601
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,200
sure you don't destroy any of your notes, any of

602
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,160
your records, any of your phone messages. Iver. I'm not

603
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,559
going to fuck a out with that anyway. So I've

604
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,839
seen these types of things happen. So what their reason is,

605
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,519
because clearly this was, as the letter stated, this is

606
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:39,240
from team Opataia, a lawyer that had been retained. The

607
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:41,359
lawyer said in the opening that he had been retained

608
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,200
by Opataia and that they believed that the IBF's decision

609
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:49,440
to withdraw their sanction was based and coordinated, and I

610
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,960
will quote an industry wide collusion designed to punish him

611
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,039
for working with zoop of Boxing and to deter other

612
00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:58,880
athletes from doing the same. And they went on to

613
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,640
say that it's been aided and embedded by other promoters,

614
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,480
other sanctioning bodies, and that the IBF intentionally inflicted or

615
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:09,759
threatened to inflict financial and reputational harm upon mister Opataia,

616
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:13,599
et cetera, et cetera. Uh, and so he basically said,

617
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:17,519
to preserve all your records. Ye, don't screw around. And uh,

618
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,000
you know the.

619
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: Question I have, does it show on the letter that

620
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:25,599
they copied this letter to other organizations and other people.

621
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: No.

622
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: My my understanding based on what i've and I can't

623
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,480
say this for sure, is that a letter went to

624
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,119
Maurici Suliman. Another letter that basically said the same thing,

625
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,279
but that the numbers and the emails and all that

626
00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:41,559
was changed went to Guestavo Oliveri from the WBO, and

627
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:45,000
one went to Daryl people Interest separately, one went well

628
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,000
Gilberto Mendoza from the w b A, and probably one

629
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:50,359
went to you know, pick your promoter. One went to

630
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,720
Eddie Hearn, probably one because he cited in the letter.

631
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,519
One went to uh, you know, a top rank. Probably

632
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:59,000
one went to you know, PBC whoever. So they're they're

633
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:03,039
basically saying, you know, all these people, uh, they basically

634
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:06,640
they're saying, we believe you possess documents and communication and

635
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,359
informations that are related. Not that they're not accusing them specifically,

636
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,440
but it's related to the potential claims against the IBF.

637
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:18,480
You know any sites also, Daryl People's at WBCWBAWBO, matroboxing

638
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,759
and other entities and individuals like it's you know, it's

639
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,079
a it's a legal letter meant to rattle the cage.

640
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,119
And so we'll see what becomes of it. But it's

641
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,240
just another step in this whole process. Now, the way

642
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:32,279
this can all go away is if the DIBF just says,

643
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:34,279
you know, what are bad, you can keep the title.

644
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,319
Then they have no damages really to speak of. So

645
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,799
probably the thing goes away. Whether that will happen or not,

646
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,839
I can't answer. But it was interesting to get.

647
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,119
Speaker 2: But you've got a letter, and you've done some digging.

648
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,519
It appears to be legitimate lawyer, legitimate law firm. And

649
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,960
the only other question I have is Opataia has not

650
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,240
commented that this is his lawyer. As we do this

651
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:55,519
pod and head into the preview mode, Opataia is not

652
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,720
confirmed yet as far as we know, yeah, this is

653
00:29:57,759 --> 00:29:58,240
my lawyer.

654
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:00,279
Speaker 3: The only thing I've heard we don't know that thing

655
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:02,559
from JAHI was his comments immediately after the fight in

656
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:03,960
the ring and then at the press converce, but he

657
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,759
didn't say anything about having a lawsuit. Now, the interesting

658
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:09,039
thing is this, Okay, so I get the letter from

659
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,359
some random number. Now, if there's a lawyer, a random

660
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,200
lawyer in Las Vegas on a law firm, he just

661
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:16,160
pulled my number out of his ass, you have to

662
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,759
get it from somebody now. Not to say my number

663
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:20,640
is not hard to get if you're in the boxing industry. Obviously,

664
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,200
I know you know, I know everybody pretty much, but

665
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,519
they're working on behalf of Timo but Die. It's clear

666
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:29,640
to me most likely that somebody from Opatia's team who

667
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,640
I know, I deal with and I have their numbers

668
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,160
and people I know plenty of people that weren't Bob

669
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,559
with ZUFA Boxing that right, you know their pr staff.

670
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,599
Dana White you know, Nick con these are people that

671
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,960
I'll have my numbers. So somebody said, hey, here's Rayfiel's number,

672
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,519
send them the fucking letter, and that's what they did.

673
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,079
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see if it goes anywhere else from there.

674
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:49,960
You would like to confirm that a partner in the

675
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:55,119
firm is not Jackie Chiles, the pseudo Johnny Cochran character

676
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,240
from Seinfeld. You are confirming on this pod the fictitious

677
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,279
Shackie Chiles not a.

678
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:01,559
Speaker 1: Partner in the firm on the letter.

679
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,039
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a partner in the firm.

680
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,279
Speaker 2: Archie Bunker's lawyers, do you know your trivia? Archie Bunker's

681
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:09,920
lawyers from the seventies were Rebina Witz, Rebena Wits, and

682
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,200
he kept saying, I gotta get my lawyers Rebno Wits,

683
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,480
Rebino Wits and Rebino Wits. They're not silent partners or

684
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:17,880
on the letterhead either of this.

685
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: Love right.

686
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: Childs was one of the all time television characters on

687
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,799
Seinfeld in the history of No doubt about it, No

688
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,480
doubt about it?

689
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:30,359
Speaker 2: What is the line about ridiculous? What what is like

690
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,799
send of like Don King and Johnny Cochran, What is.

691
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: The ridiculous, preposterous, something.

692
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,839
Speaker 1: Like that and outrageous and any other os this is.

693
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: It's outrageous, it's preposterous, It's ridiculous.

694
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:43,319
Speaker 1: Shall we move on?

695
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:46,359
Speaker 2: In case you get any more correspondence, you will update

696
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,720
us about the Opataiah situation. Uh oh hey, speaking of

697
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:55,039
legal proceedings, Gravante Davis is back in the news, but

698
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,480
it's not for a legal matter. However, I have an

699
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,920
immediate question. Is he going to be allowed to fight

700
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,720
a rematch coming up? He's under charges again in South

701
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:09,200
Florida for domestic violence, but you're reporting this week. I

702
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,680
saw it on the substack that the talks are down

703
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,759
the road for him to rematch Pitbull Cruise.

704
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: Correct.

705
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, the legal case is working its

706
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,079
way through the courts, and you know, you know, these

707
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:23,079
things don't happen overnight. These type of criminal things take

708
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,680
some time to go through the process, and so I

709
00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:28,480
guess Tank and his team believe that they can get

710
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:32,279
in a fight sometime, you know, this summer, probably like June, July, August,

711
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,480
before he actually asked to be in court to deal

712
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,119
with the case. Because it does take some time, and

713
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,200
so maybe he needs the money. Maybe he knows that

714
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:42,799
he might be in some more trouble and wants to

715
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,960
put a big payday away before whatever happens, you know,

716
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:48,759
in whatever happens in the in the court case, I mean,

717
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,640
certainly could walk three, but perhaps they'll get toss in

718
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,079
jail for a period of time. Who that knows. But

719
00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:56,039
in any event, he hasn't fought, you know, since March

720
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,039
last year when he fought Lamont roach, so he's that

721
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,599
was the you know, the highly controversial probably be coming

722
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,319
off of that. It is my understanding from the people

723
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:05,279
I spoke to or involved in this discussion, that the

724
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,799
fight would in fact have Tank going back up to

725
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:09,720
one forty, where he's fought one time in the past,

726
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:12,079
back you know, several years ago when he knocked out

727
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,880
Mario Barrios and won you know, the the regular title

728
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,960
in that weight class, and then immediately vacated and went

729
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,920
back down to one thirty five where he's been for years.

730
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,319
But he did fight in a title defense at one

731
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,160
thirty five against Isaac Pittbull Cruz back in twenty twenty one.

732
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,400
It was a very competitive fight, really good fight. They

733
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:32,119
duked it out. This was a big crowd at Staple

734
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,559
Center in Los Angeles. You know, Tank had a good

735
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:36,720
fan base and Pitt Bull's a popular Mexican fighter, so

736
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:39,759
they put on a great show. Tank did get to win.

737
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:41,960
There was a lot of conversation right off the bat

738
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,680
after that happened that they would do a rematch. You know,

739
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,000
for various reasons, it did not happen. He went out

740
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:47,839
his way and he fought, you know, fights against guys

741
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,200
like Roly Romero and Hector Luis Garcia, the big Mega

742
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,839
fight with Ryan Garcia, and you know, then you know,

743
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,880
the Frank Martin fight and then of course the Lamont

744
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,680
Roach fight. Then he turned down the rematch. He tried

745
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,759
to go for the Jake Paul exhibition. That guy canceled

746
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:02,920
because he got in trouble because of the domestic violence.

747
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,880
He got dumped out of that fight. So they're going

748
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,000
to look to do this matchup, and uh, he will.

749
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,960
He'll go back up to one pitbull in that weight

750
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,960
class has the WBC's interim title, which I guess would

751
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,559
be at stake in the fight. Uh, you know, I

752
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:19,239
think it will be a pretty good fight. I mean,

753
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,159
I'd rather see him fight the best of the lightweight division.

754
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,559
I mean, nothing against Pitbull. But you know, he has

755
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,079
not shown the desire to take on the legitimately top

756
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:33,239
guys in his own weight class for most of his career. Now,

757
00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:37,000
the interesting thing is Pitbull. In his most recent fight,

758
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,360
that was the part that was in December in San Antonio,

759
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,960
the headline the PBC pay per view. He got a

760
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:45,239
majority draw against Lamont Roach. And in his last fight,

761
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,360
Tank Davis got a draw against Lamont.

762
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: We got a whole triangle. We got Tank Roach Pitbull.

763
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:56,079
Speaker 3: But Roach has yet to fight Pitbull crew. So maybe

764
00:34:56,119 --> 00:35:00,519
they'll fight someday. Right, So they have that common in

765
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:03,119
terms of the opponent, and uh, we'll see if they

766
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:04,760
get that done. I suspect they get it done.

767
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:08,119
Speaker 2: Here's a legitimate question because we remember this from back

768
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,199
now almost three years ago. Remember they raced to have

769
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:14,880
the Tank Davis Ryan Garcia fight before the hit and

770
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:18,719
run trial because they were trying to settle that in Baltimore,

771
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:21,760
where ultimately he pled guilty to a felony and other

772
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,719
charges and ended up getting a sentenced by the judge.

773
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,639
Is this the similar thing it could be. I mean,

774
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,199
they're having to race to have this in the next

775
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,280
sixty to ninety days.

776
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,599
Speaker 1: I don't know.

777
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,559
Speaker 2: I'm just asking you he because the man has legal

778
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:36,840
problems that are going to come to a head coming

779
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,639
up at some point.

780
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,559
Speaker 3: Look, he pled in the in the in the hit

781
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:42,000
and run case, he ended up doing you know, well,

782
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,599
he got he originally was not sent to jail. The

783
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,039
problem was he was given home confinement. He broke the

784
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:49,360
terms of the probation in the home confinement, correct, and

785
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,840
the judge was not taken that shit, and she cast

786
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,800
him in jail. And he served like forty four days

787
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,320
in the lock up, which to me is you know,

788
00:35:57,519 --> 00:35:59,719
if you're if I'm Tank Davis, I don't want to

789
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,840
spend one day, much less an hour in prison or

790
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,599
jail or whatever, you know, whatever the case may be.

791
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:05,559
He did them, you know, the month and a half

792
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,760
and got out and was still still under probation at

793
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,519
this point. And so maybe he does feel like it's

794
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:13,480
a similar situation that he may be going. He made

795
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,519
all that money against Ryan Garzen, he couldn't enjoy it

796
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:18,920
because he was cooling his heels in a Baltimore Jael cell. Right,

797
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:21,000
we'll see what happens. This is different. This is uh

798
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:26,000
that was a a a broken probation or the breaking

799
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,239
of the home confinement situation. I believe that the domestic

800
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,719
violence is more serious because it's a criminal complaint and

801
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,119
it seems to be a bigger deal than a probation violation.

802
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,760
You know, in terms of breaking the probation. He didn't

803
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,239
he wasn't convicted of like doing another violent act against

804
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,239
somebody in the domestic violence well, no, that was the

805
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,000
hit and run case.

806
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: He was not right, right, But there is still probation

807
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:53,639
from the hit and run case, and he's charged with

808
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,400
domestic violence felonies, multiple felons.

809
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 3: I'm just making the point that when he when he

810
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,079
broke to probation, that was the infraction that put him

811
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:04,079
back in the camp. It wasn't because he went out

812
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:07,360
when he somebody else outside.

813
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 2: My thing is this was len This was back last fall.

814
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,599
There are chargers. Remember they couldn't find him either. They

815
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:16,400
were trying to take him into custody.

816
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: That he was hiding for two weeks. So on the

817
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:20,559
US marshals involved.

818
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: The last chapter is not written on whether a Davis

819
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:28,239
pitbull rematch can happen before the legal stuff gets going,

820
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:28,800
stay tucked.

821
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,079
Speaker 3: The fact that they know the timing ball that he

822
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:33,920
probably will be able to do the fight and then

823
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,599
whatever happens happens with their case.

824
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,039
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, all right, But wait, there's more on the

825
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:43,000
news front. I was reading my Dan Rayphael Substack, and

826
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,239
we knew that Dmitri Bivol and the IBF light heavyweight

827
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,159
mandatory challenger Michael Eiffert were negotiating was there going to

828
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:52,880
be a purse bid? Well, it's it's resolved, and you've

829
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,440
got the latest here on when he's going to fight

830
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:59,840
and where and what could be coming after this as

831
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,519
Evil is coming off of a back surgery, so go ahead.

832
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: So he had the back surgery last August. He has

833
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,119
been out for that period of time. He's back, He's

834
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,840
already been back for a few weeks. I think, you know,

835
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,960
doing some light training and you know, get him getting

836
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,960
his body back in the groove and ready to you know,

837
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,280
go into a full training can of fight. So Michael

838
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,519
Eifert has been his mandatory for quite a while. Uh,

839
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,079
he stepped aside, gave up his you know, to let

840
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,800
the rematch between better be off than bibe happened so

841
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,000
all the belts could be at stake. Obviously, Bibol won

842
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,559
that fight became the undisputed champion. Then there was the

843
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:35,320
Eiffert mandatory that was there. The WBC also ordered there

844
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:37,280
in the mandatory, even though I believe they did so

845
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,199
out of order of when it should have been, but

846
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,440
nonetheless they ordered the David Benavides fight, and at that point,

847
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,880
uh the plan was for better for Bible to have

848
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,960
a third fight with better BF. Eiffort probably would have

849
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,039
taken another step aside deal and he vacated the WBC

850
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,320
title and didn't fight David Benabdees. Then the third fight

851
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,119
with with a better BF. There were some issues, but

852
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,639
they were still hoping to do the fight. But when

853
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:03,039
it seemed like that was going kind of sideways a

854
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,519
little bit, he ended up having the back surgery on

855
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,679
this problem. It wasn't like an injury that we suffered

856
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,920
that he suffered in the bout with a better BIB.

857
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,440
This was the way it was described to me by

858
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,480
his manager, Betty in cornewob Is. This was a nagging

859
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:19,280
back injury that's given him problems for literally several years,

860
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:21,239
and it was just time to get it taken care

861
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,280
of because it was causing too much problems. So he

862
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,480
did have that surgery and apparently it went okay, and

863
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:27,320
he's been back in something like I said, light training,

864
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:30,760
doing his thing. So Eiffert was still the mandatory due

865
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,760
by the IBF. When he had the surgery, the IBF

866
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,199
issued a medical exemption, so it extended the length of

867
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,360
time before he had to do the mandatory that's going

868
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,400
to come up. So as he comes back from surgery

869
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,880
and he's looking for a fight and there's not like

870
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,039
the mega fight that's right there to be made right away,

871
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,320
he's this was the perfect time to take care of

872
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,519
the mandatory effort. Has been waiting very patiently to do

873
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:53,960
the fight, and so they will do this matchup. They

874
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,280
had the pers bit from the IBF was scheduled like

875
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,400
four times. It was canceled, postponed because they were getting

876
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,679
close with deal, again, postponed again. Finally it was supposed

877
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:04,760
to take place this pat like this week on Tuesday,

878
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,400
but the two sides finally made the deal. They told

879
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,599
the IBF canceled the perspon so they have a deal

880
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:11,440
in place. And as I am told, this has not

881
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:13,559
been officially announced anything like that, but if when it

882
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:16,199
does happen, I'm told it's scheduled to take place on

883
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,280
the May twenty third card that is headlined by Alexander

884
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,159
Usik's heavyweight title defense against your boy Reek over Hooven,

885
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:24,679
the kickboxer. That's going to be uh at least for

886
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,039
the moment out doors at the Pyramids and Geezy. There

887
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:31,000
are rumblings if you talk to people in the business,

888
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:33,400
there's a lot of skepticism whether not that the fight

889
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,840
between Usik and Verhova won't happen, but they may have

890
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,719
to move into a different location given all the stuff

891
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,880
that's happening in the Middle East and.

892
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:43,119
Speaker 1: The rest currently in the Middle East because Iran.

893
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:45,599
Speaker 3: Bombing other places while the United States is at war

894
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:47,880
with them, and this and that, and they're throwing bombs

895
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,000
into Dubai and other places in the Middle East, and

896
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,400
you know, some people may not feel it's the best

897
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,639
plan to do this heavyweight title fight open air, you know,

898
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,800
in the middle of the fucking desert at the Pyramids.

899
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:02,360
So we'll see what happens. So anyway, so be it.

900
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: But even if it's not at somewhere else, your understanding

901
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:06,559
is this is gonna be the co feature.

902
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 3: I didn't say the co feature, not necessarily.

903
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:11,199
Speaker 2: I mean you would find the cart I'll speculate you

904
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:13,159
would think it would be, but who knows it will

905
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:15,760
be on the card. And then cornel Off, the manager

906
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,679
also suggested to you another opponent or two.

907
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: I was going back and forth with with that deem

908
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,000
about it because you know a lot of people were

909
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:26,119
pissing on the Eiffer fight, even though they didn't. I

910
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:28,760
don't understand people sometimes. Okay, I understand there are certain

911
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,119
fights w you want to see guys fight, but jost

912
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,159
have to understand there's a human beings. Here's a man

913
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,920
who was fought a lot of top guys, had two

914
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:39,239
tremendous battles with U with Arthur better bev super close fights.

915
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:41,559
He won the second one, lost the first one, and

916
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:43,039
now he's been out of the ring for a while

917
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,559
because of a back surgery. He has a mandatory that's due.

918
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:47,039
He already gave up one Dove doesn't want to give

919
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:50,360
up the other one. So you you do the mandatory

920
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,760
and it covers you on two bases. Number one, we

921
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,039
get to see how you were feeling after a surgery

922
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,559
against a good, solid professional what not somebody at the

923
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,079
level of an Arthur better Beev or another top top guy.

924
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:04,679
And number two, you take care of your mandatory obligation.

925
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,000
This man has been waiting for you for a long time.

926
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:10,559
You owe it to him. And so that Dean outlined

927
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,480
what this is Arthur. This is what Dmitri Biebel hopes

928
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,639
that will take place over the next three fights. Do

929
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,440
the May twenty third probably you know, probably made twenty

930
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,079
third against Eiffert for the mandatory in the next fight,

931
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:22,719
probably later in the year. He would like to have

932
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,639
the third fight with Better Beef, which at this point

933
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:27,440
I think a lot of people were like, we don't

934
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,519
need to see those three fights back to back to back.

935
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,840
But with a little time and space and maybe another

936
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,519
guy has another fight in between, now people maybe have

937
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,239
an appetite for it. Again, the second fight was really good, Okay, fine,

938
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:39,599
so and then again this is all presuming he wins

939
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,719
and he's healthy. Iffert end of the year against Better Bef.

940
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,760
And then for the third fight of the three fight plan,

941
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,039
he mentioned three possibilities. Either, he would love to have

942
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:50,320
a rematch with Canelo, who he beat back several years

943
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,960
ago in an upset when Canelo went up from sixty

944
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,000
eight to challenge him for the WBA belt at light heavyweight.

945
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:02,280
Canelo turned down his contract actual option for an immediate rematch,

946
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:04,280
but that doesn't mean they still wouldn't like to have

947
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,840
that fight. Obviously, it's a lot of money against a

948
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,119
guy already beat if barring that, he said, I'd love

949
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:11,320
to fight David Dennavides, whether David wants to come back

950
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,400
to light heavyweight or he would go to cruiserweight either way,

951
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,760
and if not, that somebody with a cruiserweight title, because

952
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,320
he would like to win the title in that weight vision.

953
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,280
Dimitri has been a you know, a long time, long

954
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,519
time career long light heavyweight where he's done, you know,

955
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,760
the biggest fights that he's had, and you know, to

956
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,480
go up and wait at his career age and you

957
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:33,199
know how much wear and Terry's had on them through

958
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:35,800
the years long amateur career. To us, if he can

959
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,519
get a title another weight class would be a big

960
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,079
accomplishment for him. And so that was those that's the

961
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:44,480
hit list. Basically, Ifert Canelo or rather I'm sorry, Eifert

962
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:48,199
better bev and then either Canelo Bennovites or somebody with

963
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,000
a cruiserweight title, that's a pretty damna.

964
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: Stay tuned and get the win first and then find

965
00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:55,800
out can better be of who's up there in age

966
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:56,880
over what now?

967
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: Forty one, forty two?

968
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: He's getting up there?

969
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: Is he gonna? Is he gonna to fight?

970
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:00,519
Speaker 2: On?

971
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,159
Speaker 1: We shall see if that, if that fight even comes

972
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,519
up again, and how how much longer is Canelo fighting?

973
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:06,639
By the way, if he.

974
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: Has to wait a year before, so well, is it

975
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,119
too far fetched? Okay, I'm just saying this and then

976
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:17,119
we'll move on. Is it too far fetch to say

977
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,039
that Bivol comes back, looks good, wins this fight, and

978
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:22,519
maybe Canelo was next in the fall instead.

979
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:24,159
Speaker 1: Maybe who knows.

980
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,159
Speaker 3: I don't know about that because I don't think Canelo

981
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:26,800
wants that fight.

982
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,079
Speaker 1: Okay, good, good, good debate, And the list.

983
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: I gave you was Dimitri's desire.

984
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: Not what to fight? Better be a third time for

985
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,800
a long if.

986
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: Turkey, who is the next couple of Canelo fights, says, hey, Canelo,

987
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:41,880
I love you to fight. Uh Bivol? You know, here's

988
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,960
the money? You know Canelo probably stay tuned.

989
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: A couple more items.

990
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: Frank Sanchez is having problems with a surgically repaired knee

991
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,960
and now is not able to fight in a couple

992
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,280
of weeks. On this Sebastian fund Dora Keith Thurman fight.

993
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:02,119
So what what does this mean for Richard Torres, who

994
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:03,960
we were anxious to see back in the ring here.

995
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,760
What does that mean and what is he going to

996
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,360
do now that Sanchez can't fight?

997
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,599
Speaker 3: Well? The fight was supposed to be the co feature

998
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:15,239
on the under Cardiffondora against Keith Urn on March twenty eighth. So,

999
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,920
like you said, just a couple of weeks away, he's

1000
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,679
had the knee prepared. He was having some inflammation in

1001
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:23,840
the knee. You went and saw the doctor in San

1002
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,239
Diego where he's been training. He saw the doctor on

1003
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:30,199
h on Tuesday, and he ended up having to pull

1004
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,159
out of the fight, or not pull out of, but

1005
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,800
postpone the fight. I guess I take that back. It

1006
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,400
was on Wednesday, I guess where he saw the doctor,

1007
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,840
and the doctor, from what I was told, told Sanchez, listen,

1008
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:40,760
you go, you gotta lay off it for two or

1009
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,159
three weeks. So the doctor gave him that instruction. Obviously,

1010
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,360
if you can't prepare for the next two or three weeks, right.

1011
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,119
Speaker 2: And talking about running for conditioning and talking about training

1012
00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:51,440
being able to spar and if the doctor is saying this,

1013
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,599
you know you got arrest this how are you going

1014
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:55,199
to be ready a week and a half from now, So.

1015
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: He's he's postponed the fight, which unfortunate because if you remember,

1016
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:00,679
there was a lot of adgitive trying to get somebody

1017
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,320
to accept the fight against him in the first place,

1018
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,559
when he went to all including Richard Torres, who turned

1019
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:07,280
it down the first time because he had another fight schedule,

1020
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,159
and then when they came back around to him this time,

1021
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:12,280
he accepted the fight. Richard Torres, as I talked to

1022
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,000
Carl Murady from Top Rank, which is Richard's promoter, did

1023
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:17,119
apparently did not take the news very well. It's he's

1024
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:19,800
a you know, not the most experienced professional. He's never

1025
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,800
had this happen. In terms of a major fight. This

1026
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,440
was This is a significant fight from the standpoint of

1027
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,599
it is an IBF official final eliminator. The winner of

1028
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,880
this fight will become the IBF Heavyweight mandatory challenger, whether

1029
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,199
it's against Alexander Usik, somebody that might beat us Sick

1030
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,440
perhaps for a vacant title, but the guy who wins

1031
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:38,760
that fight is getting a shot eventually at the IBF

1032
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,800
Heavyweight Championship, which is still a big deal for a

1033
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:46,519
lot of fighters anyway, uh, I am told that Sanchez,

1034
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:49,639
we'll see his specialist because, like you said, he had

1035
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:51,480
a surgery, you know, back a while ago. He's had

1036
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:53,760
only one fight since then. They'll see this. They'll see

1037
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,480
the specialists to get a sort of a second opinion

1038
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:57,920
or a deeper take on it compared to the regular

1039
00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:00,440
doctor he saw in San Diego. Well, a little more

1040
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,199
information about that, and in the meantime, I guess it

1041
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,199
depends on what the doctors have to say. But the

1042
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,639
fight is theoretically going to be rescheduled, will take place

1043
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,119
on May thirtieth, if they get the PBC on Prime

1044
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:15,960
Video pay per View main event done, which is winding

1045
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,519
its way towards conclusion between Devin Haney and Roly Romero.

1046
00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:21,800
So if that gets all squared away, that would be

1047
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,199
May thirtieth and Brooklyn, New York on PBC on Prime

1048
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,440
Video pay per View, and the rescheduled down between Torres

1049
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,400
and Sanchez would take place on that card.

1050
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: Let's hope Sanchez gets healthy. Otherwise Richard Torres is out

1051
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,800
of a fight. Well, I'm saying Torres is an exciting

1052
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,559
American up and coming fighter who's been out of the

1053
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:45,760
ring because the top rank stuff, and if he's not

1054
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,760
fighting here in March and they can't make the fight

1055
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,639
for may get him in the ring with somebody coming out.

1056
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 3: But he did just fight in December in Mexico and

1057
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,119
had a good solid count to work out there.

1058
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:56,039
Speaker 1: A couple more items.

1059
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: The IBF on Tuesday announced that janebec and Lim Kan

1060
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,000
is no longer they're Middleway champion.

1061
00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:07,559
Speaker 1: However, what are we parsing here?

1062
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: The IBF that it's not just due to the VADA

1063
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:13,639
failed test, but what else here on why the IBF

1064
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,480
made this decision.

1065
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 3: Now, it's not really that much later. He had the

1066
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,079
failed test, the result came back in December, early December.

1067
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:25,599
This was in the few days leading up to what

1068
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,320
was supposed to be a unification fight for three belts.

1069
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,159
He had, of course had the IBF and the WBO.

1070
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,519
He was supposed to fight Aristondi Lara to unify those

1071
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:36,519
three tunnels. This was the co feature on the card

1072
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:39,199
we just spoke about where Pitt Bull Cruz fought Lamont

1073
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,360
Roach in the main event, and then, like I said,

1074
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,239
during the week of the fight, the VADA test comes back.

1075
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,800
He's positive for the band substance meldonium, he gets dropped

1076
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,679
from the fight. He's out. They match up Lara with

1077
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,960
the guy from the undercard that comes up, and now

1078
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:54,719
they go through the process. And so it didn't take

1079
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,079
a long time. I know, we're sitting here at the

1080
00:48:56,159 --> 00:48:58,239
very beginning of March, and that was in the beginning

1081
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,800
of December. But they go they have a period of

1082
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,320
time time to get the b sample tested. They went

1083
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,280
through that process that of course came back positive as well.

1084
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:08,960
Then you had the hearing that he had with his

1085
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:12,719
home federation and the Kazakhstan regulators. They took their time

1086
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,039
to go through and do a hearing and hear all

1087
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:17,800
the evidence, and there's a lot of delays and letters

1088
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,599
back and forth. In other words, the timing is perfectly

1089
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,840
normal and acceptable. And as you remember, as we spoke

1090
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,159
about not that long ago, like last week, the Kazakhstan

1091
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:32,440
Commission Federation gave him a six month ban. They claimed

1092
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,559
that it was that they believed what was presented, which

1093
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:38,519
was that the reason for the meldonium being in his system,

1094
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,320
which is enough substance that is banned worldwide. It has

1095
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,639
been since twenty sixteen. If you take that or it's

1096
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:46,719
in your system, for some reason. It's the kind of

1097
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,119
thing that stays perhaps for months and months and months.

1098
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:50,920
It's not the kind of thing where you take it

1099
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,800
and it's out of your system with the piss, you know,

1100
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,000
three days later. If you take meldonium, it can be

1101
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:56,840
deeping your system for months and months and months. So

1102
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,719
if you go back to what he fought in Kazakhstan

1103
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,480
in his last fight whenever, that was like a freaking

1104
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,000
almost a year ago, I guess it was right. He

1105
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:06,559
had a medical emergency. This is what they say. And

1106
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:09,880
in terms of getting treatment for that medical emergency, whatever

1107
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,559
they gave him had meldonium in it. He got better

1108
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:14,559
from that, and that was somehow still in his system

1109
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:17,280
all these times later when he took the drug test

1110
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,159
for the Laura.

1111
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: But you're here, and we debated this before you hear

1112
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:23,840
all these different excuses as to how something got there.

1113
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:26,599
Point number one is you and I both agree on

1114
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:29,360
the strict liability thing it got there. And two, if

1115
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,400
you know anything about this, which we debated before, and

1116
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,000
we've talked about several times, the Eastern Europeans, the Russians,

1117
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,039
in all sports in athletics, including boxing, have been caught

1118
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,880
using this and so it made highly suspicious on whatever

1119
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,400
the extent.

1120
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 3: I am not making a judgment on whether he purpose

1121
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,880
or not. I'm merely saying to you that the Kazakhstan

1122
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,559
Federation say they looked at the various evidence and their

1123
00:50:54,639 --> 00:50:58,239
determination was the reason for his particular test was based

1124
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,320
on the medical treatment he received in urgency situation in

1125
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,679
Kazakhstan at the time, and that, you know, nine months

1126
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,079
later or whatever it was, was still in his system

1127
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,440
as he was tested prior to the Laara fight. So

1128
00:51:09,519 --> 00:51:11,679
they gave him a six month ban. Once that ban

1129
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,039
was announced by his federation, then the WBO announced their ruling,

1130
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:17,079
which was they didn't strip them of the title. They

1131
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:19,639
we talked about that last week. They suspended them for

1132
00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:22,400
a year. They ordered the eliminator fight that was already

1133
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,239
set to be for the interim title and said, when

1134
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,400
you come back and fight after your time is up,

1135
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,440
you then have to fight whoever wins this interim title fight.

1136
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,079
The IBF took a little bit of a different instead,

1137
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,199
they stripped them of the title because in their rules,

1138
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,760
if you are having a doping violation, you're automatically suspended

1139
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,519
for a year. The problem that they said is so

1140
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,239
he gets stripped the title, not specifically because of the

1141
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,039
positive test, but because it butts up against another rule

1142
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:51,280
where if you're suspended for a year and you're a champion,

1143
00:51:51,679 --> 00:51:54,239
you're not able to fulfill your mandatory defense in the

1144
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,159
timeframe in which you're supposed to defend the mandatory. His

1145
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,320
mandatory happens to be due July on or before July fourth,

1146
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,159
So if you're suspended until December, which is when the IBF,

1147
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,679
they don't backdate it. The date that the test result

1148
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,159
came back was December two. He suspended for or you know,

1149
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,760
he's not able to fight in an IBF sanctioned.

1150
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,559
Speaker 1: Fight until this December, twelve months later.

1151
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,519
Speaker 3: So if you can't fight in an IBF fight till

1152
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:20,760
December second, but your mandatory is due on July fourth,

1153
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,840
you can't make your mandatory. Therefore, they they had their

1154
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,360
little confab on the on the conference call, and the

1155
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,400
board of directors, the majority of them said he's going

1156
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,840
to be stripped, and they stripped them to the title.

1157
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,880
So he still has the WBO when he comes back,

1158
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:35,079
but the IBF is no longer part of his uh

1159
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:37,320
his resume or it's on his resume, but he no

1160
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:37,880
longer holds it.

1161
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,079
Speaker 2: It's getting late. I'm getting punchy because they've been traveling.

1162
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:43,199
Do you fear that you're going to hear from a

1163
00:52:44,159 --> 00:52:48,440
international Kazakhstan law firm on the IBF stripping Olympic.

1164
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: One thing that makes this this job fun is you

1165
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,280
just never know if that's gonna happen.

1166
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: You never know. Stay tuned.

1167
00:52:56,599 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 3: I have thought to Kazakhstan lawyers before I will tell

1168
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:58,920
you that.

1169
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:02,039
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't have enough time. Uh.

1170
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,599
Speaker 2: Tim Zoo, by the way, officially announced midweek is back.

1171
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,880
Tell me a little more. This is coming up in Australia.

1172
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:15,519
It is not Errol Spence. However, he is fighting an

1173
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:20,079
Albanian fighter right in Nurgia, Dennis Nurgia if I have

1174
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:23,599
the pronunciation correct. This is coming up in early April.

1175
00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:25,920
This will be here soon. Tell me more about the

1176
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:27,880
Zoo fight being officially announced.

1177
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: Here well, as we spoke about, and I wrote about,

1178
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,440
and plenty of mothers wrote about back in February. PBC,

1179
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:37,159
which works with Tim, but his main promoter in Australia

1180
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,079
No Limit Boxing. Obviously, PBC also works with Ero Spence.

1181
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,280
They were planning to make a match between Spence and

1182
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,760
Zoo to take place this summer around June time frame.

1183
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:48,880
It would be a pay per view in the United

1184
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,639
States on Prime Video, but it would take place in Australia,

1185
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,880
and the timing works out. Go okay, because in Australia

1186
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,400
there used to these morning kind of fights are like

1187
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:58,119
late morning, early afternoon. For here in the United States

1188
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,360
would be our prime time. And uh, for whatever reason,

1189
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:05,239
Tim Zu, who did fight in December, wanted to have

1190
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,159
a tune up fight. I think it's the crazy I

1191
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,920
just I just don't agree. I think this is a

1192
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,159
bad idea, that's my opinion. I mean, you don't blow

1193
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,280
you don't risk the aerol Spence fight when you don't

1194
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,519
really need the tune up you just fought in December.

1195
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,480
So to go from then until June is really not

1196
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:25,000
that big of all, doesn't It doesn't. It says two things.

1197
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: It says two or three things to me. One, he's

1198
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,440
getting a payday. Two he must not think this guy's

1199
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,880
that big of a threat, else why do it again?

1200
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,199
But more importantly, hold on door number three. Is he

1201
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,280
skeptical that a Spence fight ever happens because he's been

1202
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,159
out of the out of the ring almost three years,

1203
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,000
and Errol Spence has reportedly been about to fight two

1204
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:45,880
or three other guys.

1205
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: This one is a little more serious, it seems to me.

1206
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,960
And even if you have relative debate about it, you

1207
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:54,800
just don't fuck around and and and get.

1208
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: You back to my first two doors. If you want

1209
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,239
the money and you believe this guy's beatable, you got

1210
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,159
three this year.

1211
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,639
Speaker 3: Again. When you take a tune up, no matter what

1212
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,920
the situation is, you're risking a lot. I guarantee you

1213
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,400
he's not making crazy money for a nerd of fight

1214
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,320
compared to what he make for a Spence fight one

1215
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,039
hundred percent.

1216
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,559
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you.

1217
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: There's debate in his own camp about whether there's ever

1218
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:17,840
going to be a Spence fight.

1219
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,039
Speaker 1: Okay, tune, stay tune.

1220
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 3: They are planning to do the Spence fight. Whatever you can.

1221
00:55:23,199 --> 00:55:24,360
If it doesn't happen, doesn't happen.

1222
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,599
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just having fun with you. I'm

1223
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:29,559
just having fun with you.

1224
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:31,679
Speaker 2: There was supposed to be an Aero Spence Sebastian Fundora

1225
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,960
fight all last year. He was in the ring with

1226
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:37,000
Fundorra after he beat Tim Zuo the first time. Or

1227
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:38,559
was he in the ring with him after you beat

1228
00:55:38,639 --> 00:55:40,719
him the second time last July, he was in the

1229
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,199
ring with him and that fight has never happened.

1230
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 3: So I don't know. Maybe that I think the tune

1231
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,960
up is stupid and even though it's still gonna happen.

1232
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,159
Here the deal they are going to fight. It will

1233
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:54,079
be Saturday, April fourth, the United States time. It will

1234
00:55:54,159 --> 00:55:57,880
stream live on Prime Video for Prime members. It will

1235
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,960
be one of the rare non pay per view fights.

1236
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,639
I told you they were going to do some more

1237
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,880
non pay per views. This is one of them. It

1238
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,199
will be from Australia in our prime time. If you

1239
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,519
if you have Prime membership, like one hundred million people

1240
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:10,320
do in the United States or something like that, you

1241
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,000
just watch it now. So that'll be that, and then

1242
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:15,039
it will.

1243
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 2: Be Sunday in Australia and they will have it on

1244
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,400
in pay per view. We actually have some audience. I

1245
00:56:19,519 --> 00:56:22,559
see this in the analytics in Australia. Yeah, gotta pay

1246
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:25,559
for the pay per view mate in Australia on Sunday afternoon.

1247
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they'll do it on there, like what do

1248
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,320
they call it a main event or t t A

1249
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,559
t k O pay per view whatever they call it. There,

1250
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:34,360
it'll be on paper view here in America and probably

1251
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,199
all the places around the world it won't be on

1252
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:36,679
paper view.

1253
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,519
Speaker 2: Still, he's still a very popular, if not the most

1254
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:40,880
popular Australian fighter.

1255
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:43,559
Speaker 3: That maybe his problem is where he got you know,

1256
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:47,159
he basically got stopped and quit against Fandor in the rematch.

1257
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,159
I mean his last three real fights. He lost Fandora

1258
00:56:50,199 --> 00:56:52,199
in the blood bath in the first fight. That is mark.

1259
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,159
Speaker 1: I continue, I continue to say this.

1260
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,159
Speaker 2: He has not won a significant fight outside of Australia.

1261
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:01,159
Speaker 3: He has correct he got he got caught up and

1262
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:03,440
beat up by by Fandora in a close fight. He

1263
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:05,880
got Blitzpeimer, Taza Lev. He came back in Australia, he

1264
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,519
blew away you know, Joey Spencer, a much lower level

1265
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:10,880
opponent than he you know, quit and got beat up

1266
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,119
against Fondor in the rematch in July of last year.

1267
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:14,960
I was at that fight. And then he came back

1268
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,719
in Australia again and he took on the undefeated New

1269
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,159
England club fighter and what a ten round decision against

1270
00:57:20,159 --> 00:57:24,320
Anthony Malaskaz. Yeah, always taking another sort of against an

1271
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,199
unknown type of guy in Nergia, hoping to set up

1272
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:29,360
the Spence fight. So you know, the good news is

1273
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,719
if if you don't care about whether he wins or

1274
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,440
loses the fight, at least you can watch this fight

1275
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:36,400
on prime video. The Alaskas fight was not televised here

1276
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,199
in the United States or streamed anyone in the United States.

1277
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:40,480
So one thing about Tim is that he's always got

1278
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:42,440
something going on. There's always some drama, I think, and

1279
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,719
you know, we can check it out.

1280
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: Now.

1281
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 3: The rest of the card that they're going to show,

1282
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,199
they're not showing all like you know, ten fights on

1283
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,039
the show, but the prime video will show two additional bouts.

1284
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,760
He'll see the Australian Sam Goodman, who's going to be

1285
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,639
fighting in his hometown because this fight is taking place

1286
00:57:56,679 --> 00:58:00,840
in Wollongong, Australia, and so he's in a w and

1287
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,079
an IBF Junior featherweight title eliminator against Rodrigo Ruiz. And

1288
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:07,599
there'll be one other fight that features one of the

1289
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:11,960
twenty twenty four up and coming Australian Olympians who will

1290
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,920
be in a in a prospect fight on the card

1291
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,400
as well. And so that's you, that's your card.

1292
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: So that Zoo card coming quickly here in about three weekends,

1293
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,079
not this weekend, but three weeks after that. On April

1294
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:25,760
the fourth and fifth time zone and part of the

1295
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,320
globe adjusted. One more thing and then we're gone, and

1296
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,480
that is Zufa Boxing made the announcement they're also going

1297
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:36,199
to be back on Sunday night, April fifth, that night

1298
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,079
in the United States in Las Vegas and real quick

1299
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:41,119
one are those fights for their their latest card.

1300
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna do that. That's their Their April show

1301
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:46,400
will take place once again at the Apex, where they've

1302
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,880
had all of their shows so far, including the Opa

1303
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,159
Tai fight. It was Sunday night when the Opa Tai

1304
00:58:51,199 --> 00:58:52,719
will fight was taking place. They put up on their

1305
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,320
social media. They may have announced it also on the broadcast.

1306
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,639
The main event for that card will be Andres Cortes,

1307
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:01,199
the he had been. We've discussed this. He was one

1308
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:03,760
of the fighters that was not extended a contra a

1309
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,760
new contract by top rank when and when his deal

1310
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,840
ran out. Even though he's, you know, an unbecoming contender.

1311
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,119
He's twenty e years old. He's on the feet of

1312
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:12,280
top ranks, but a lot of time and fights into

1313
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,400
him over the last few years. He's a Las Vegas guy.

1314
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,800
He's twenty four to zero with thirty knockouts. He's moving

1315
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,360
up to lightweight. He's taken on Aridson and Garcia is

1316
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,559
twenty three and one with fourteen knockout He's a Dominican

1317
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:25,199
SouthBay who's won six fights in a row. That'll be

1318
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:26,639
a ten rounder for the main event. That was the

1319
00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:29,079
fight that was announced, and even though it wasn't officially announced,

1320
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:31,360
I am told by my sources that the co feature,

1321
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:33,119
which to be quite honest, I actually find to be

1322
00:59:33,199 --> 00:59:35,360
a slightly more interesting fight than the main event, and

1323
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,880
that's the former WBC featherweight title holder from the Philippines,

1324
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,280
Mark Megsio. He is going to take on the irishman

1325
00:59:42,679 --> 00:59:46,239
Feargol McCrory, who challenged and you know he lost by knockout,

1326
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,360
but he gave a pretty you know, good account of

1327
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,000
himself in terms of entertainment when he lost Lamont Roach

1328
00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:53,199
in a title shot at one thirty. He's also moving

1329
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,000
up to lightweight and you'll see that a lot in

1330
00:59:55,239 --> 00:59:57,800
some of these ZUFA shows that are upcoming, because they're

1331
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,159
not using a lot of the other they're dealing with,

1332
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,440
mainly the senior weight classes. So these guys were junior lightweights.

1333
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,320
Now they're fighting in the lightweight division because that's a

1334
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,079
division that ZUPA Boxing will recognize, So that will be

1335
01:00:09,159 --> 01:00:11,199
the ten round code feature. I actually think that's a

1336
01:00:11,239 --> 01:00:12,039
pretty interesting fight.

1337
01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:17,679
Speaker 2: Okay, we gave you a bunch on this again on

1338
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:22,719
the timeline, the Jazza Dickens fight with Kasachi is the

1339
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,559
afternoon in the United States. In Ireland on Saturday, the

1340
01:00:26,679 --> 01:00:31,199
Queensbury Dezone Show Saturday afternoon and then Saturday night.

1341
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: The Golden Boy de Zone Show. All the way in.

1342
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: Anaheim, California, a long way from Dublin, Ireland, has Arnold

1343
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,960
Barbosa and Kenneth Simms in the main event, Oscar Colazzo

1344
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:44,039
in the co feature defending his unified strawweight titles, Alexis

1345
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:46,880
Rocha the welterweight on the undercard, and Gabriella Fondora, the

1346
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,480
undisputed women's flyweight champ as well on the on the undercard,

1347
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:54,199
making any a defense. You will recap all of those

1348
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,199
fights on your sub stack. You'll be posting on social

1349
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,719
media as those fights go on. So again for the audience,

1350
01:01:02,239 --> 01:01:05,119
read Dan substack, Subscribe, read his newsletters. See him on

1351
01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:07,440
social media, you'll get his thoughts on those fights. We

1352
01:01:07,519 --> 01:01:09,960
will not have a recap pod on the weekend. However,

1353
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:13,199
you and one time Keith Thurman will be the Sunday

1354
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,360
Night podcast before the Fundra fight. Here Keith, in his

1355
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:21,199
own words, trying to get a junior middleweight world title.

1356
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:25,239
He has been on and off in the ring, out

1357
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,960
of the ring for a while. Back in the ring,

1358
01:01:27,039 --> 01:01:29,000
that out of the ring for the while. Can he

1359
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:31,079
pull the upset I considered an upset of fun drawy

1360
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:33,559
hear him in his own words, Sunday Night with Big Dan.

1361
01:01:34,039 --> 01:01:35,280
You'll enjoy that conversation.

1362
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,679
Speaker 1: Other than that, I think we're good for the weekend.

1363
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,639
Speaker 2: Lots of college basketball that's going on. I'm headed out

1364
01:01:41,679 --> 01:01:44,239
to Vegas. I'll be back in touch with you when

1365
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:47,239
I get back, and we'll see what happens with everything

1366
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:47,840
this weekend.

1367
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,679
Speaker 1: Big Dan, have a great weekend here in March.

1368
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,599
Speaker 3: We made it through an entire show. I got zero

1369
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:52,960
text messages from many lawyers.

1370
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,639
Speaker 2: And you know, honestly, you had about thirty nine f

1371
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,000
bombs in the show because you were so worked up

1372
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:02,599
last Sunday Night. I honestly think you just made it

1373
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:05,159
through a full hour and there was not one of them.

1374
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,880
I don't normally have a counter. I don't have the tickers.

1375
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: I think I let a couple go.

1376
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,719
Speaker 2: Actually I don't know that there was. The audience will

1377
01:02:11,719 --> 01:02:14,440
have to play the show and find out. If I

1378
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,159
don't know that there was one, well.

1379
01:02:16,119 --> 01:02:18,119
Speaker 3: I won't drop one right now, just in case we can.

1380
01:02:18,159 --> 01:02:19,239
Speaker 1: Ye, don't break the street.

1381
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,679
Speaker 3: Don't break the street, drop a couple.

1382
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: But in any event, have a great weekend.

1383
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: Let's enjoy the fights this week and follow and subscribe

1384
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,960
on his fight for each to night. Substack to read

1385
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,880
the recaps that he will have, and follow him on

1386
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,480
social media as well for all of it on Twitter, x,

1387
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:37,960
Facebook page, the Instagram, TikTok.

1388
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: All of it.

1389
01:02:38,199 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: I don't do TikTok.

1390
01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:41,719
Speaker 1: Please don't do TikTok. Never mind, but find him on

1391
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,599
those other offorts, Big Dan, have a great weekend.

1392
01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 3: Thank you all right? DIDJ enjoy the basketball?

1393
01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: There we go Beat Thurman with Dan Sunday Night on

1394
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,199
this pod. Feed, follow, subscribe you'll get it automatically when

1395
01:02:53,239 --> 01:02:56,000
it's up on Sunday night. Rate us and review us

1396
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,639
as well. You've been listening to the Big Fight Weekend

1397
01:02:57,719 --> 01:02:58,559
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