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are in the finale. Travis here, you just kind of
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if not, I'll probably get his thoughts. Next week
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That's a show where it's always rotating member between two
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and what we've been watching stuff, because I know the
after nine, the next two is just a football one
and then the Oscar Ones. I don't know if Dexter's
coming up there, but I would like to talk about
Dexter the next time of the Patriots, because I know
John's watching, I know Mike's watching it, so but maybe
it'll come up to because don't forget we have so
they keep saying that I'm surprised because they're shooting right now,
but they say Dexter Resurrections, Resurrection.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it's great Dexter universe. Man, They're going to
have fifty projects like the Mu.
Speaker 2: It's Trinity coming to remember like that.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that project. Is Michael see all attached
to that as well?
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a Peiing No just Dumbledore, just Dumbledore.
Speaker 1: Just double Dore. Okay, but what do you think about
it here in the finale? What do you think about
this just the season as a whole. I guess you
can give kind of your I don't know if that's
better to discuss spoiler section versus spoiler free. I mean,
if you made it this far, you're you're pretty caught up.
You're like ninety percent of the way there for the spoilers.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you think so, Austin, Like I said last week,
I did a whole little recap, sing back whole thoughts.
But I feel like it's where, okay, start off very
rough for me, and then I think the middle portion
had like it was a good week, bad week, good week,
okay week, and then I feel like the last episodes
were better. I had some like canon stuff that I
didn't like them adding, but other than that, I was like, Okay,
this is better. I think this might be the worst
episode of the show, which is shitty to say. I'm
hoping it didn't end that way. I do feel like
there will be a season two. I really I can't
say this. I don't want it in the sense of
like as a viewer, but I didn't get to be
on the rest of these or the last ones. I
do think there is lots of fun moments, but unfortunately
the fun momentes are like so bad, it's so good
per my name, and I'll get to that in spoilers,
so I think I will review them. But as a take,
let's say z out for his ends, no more podcasting allowed.
Just as a viewer, do I want more of this Dexter?
Not really. I think this They had a big issue
to solve with one of the characters talk about last week,
and the way they solved it was very anti climat
to continue to make much sense, and then the issue
with another character just felt very comedic and action movie heavy,
which I don't like. Season one to four of Dexter,
like the Final Kills, the final seasons like, I think
the biggest thing one time was like he was on
the Carver's table or no, it was a skinner. He
was a skinner's table. He called the cops and he
had to like jump off a little dock to some water,
and he threw the skinner off a roof. But that's
like the most we got. Dexter's what I like is
usually but then the later seasons he just becomes Batman, right,
And I will say that he becomes Batman in this episode.
And what I just don't like about it is like
this is like the beginning stages. So to think about
the I'll just say the uh, the water sequence, and
to think about when we get to Dexter in season
one that he's been through this, I'm like, I feel
like this is already too much. You know, this just
feels like if you were to learn, oh, before Batman
was Bruce Wayne, he like beat the ping when he
beat it, like it's like no, like there's kind of
a trajectory of like there's certain things to me he
shouldn't be. He's he doesn't have the skill tree unlocked
yet to do these things, but he feels like he's Dexter.
You know season seven, season eight, and I think that's
what you guys talked about the beginning, which I agreed
to a point, But there was fun moments of saying, Okay,
this is an early Dexter. He's learning there's gonna be mistakes.
So that's what I enjoyed. Where this felt like all
that kind of went out the window. Everything worked out
really well, especially like how he nabs one person worked
out very well. So yeah, I did not enjoy this
episode as a looking at critically, as just enjoyment. I
had a really fun time because I think there was
just some very outlandish, over the top moments and yeah,
so like I said, for me, this is in that
negative category of prequels. I think overall it added a
lot of negative stuff too, and I think it's I
don't think it's as bad as season eight, which was
you know, Lumberjack Dexter and the brain surge and all
this stuff, but it's probably my second least out of
all the Dexters. This finale kind of cemented it, but
that's where I am. I don't think this was a
not as strong finale and it didn't leave me wanting more.
It left me being I'm fine if we stop here,
but I don't think they're gonna I feel like I
feel like they know now people tune in the show,
and I felt like it's not that there was cliffhangers
in the end of this season, but it felt very
much like they set up at least two to three
things that are like, oh, what could happen here? The
thing is, we know what's gonna happen, right, we know
the trictory, but they're saying, oh, what could happen to
young Dexter one, Debora, you're young Debora young Harry young.
Oh that's the other thing. My last point too. I'll
get into spoilers, but again, I have a hard time
very much connecting point A to point B right now.
The trajectory of where Harry ends up in the original
show makes really no sense to me now in this situation,
like in the moment, it's not non spoils because like
if you were watched this, hope you've seen Dexter. Dexter reveals
in the show that Harry, you know, I'm gonna wait
just in case. But I just feel like there's a resolution,
and I feel like this show really makes it like
I don't understand how we could get there with this character.
He's very proud of these things Dexter's doing. And in
the original show there's a point where Harry is not
and it just not even Christian Slater the actor, it
feels like the writing as well. They're very different characters.
And I know because resurrections coming, it's not I think
I would be way more excited about the show if
it was, Hey, we're rebooting Dexter, but we're gonna start over,
and I think that would be exciting. Oh the stuff
having with Brian, this's something happening with Harry. You'd be like, oh,
we don't know where we're going because this is like
a new con nony, a new timeline. Like I'd be
way more in the show if it was We're not
gonna we don't want to color in the lines. We're
starting a new and I think people would still watch
that and you can get those vibes and you do
like little illusions, like things get remade all the time.
So I'd be more excited if it was something new
because it connects that original show. I got some issues,
but there there was some fun stuff here. So that's
my thoughts and I'll give a score at the.
Speaker 1: End, so yeah, no, right on, I guess I'll yeah,
I'll start by saying I'm right there with you. I
think this is definitely the worst episode out of the
entire season, which is unfortunate to have in the finale.
Like I I messaged you when it was coming to
an end, and I'm like, is this the finale? Like
I wasn't sure if there was another episode or not,
just because we're doing so many reviews right now, I
get them mixed up on some end with nine, twelve
and eleven. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So I was that Spider Man had eleven episodes and
he we almost Pizza Bit and no it was ten.
So but that happens. We've got three shows on the.
Speaker 1: Go, right, absolutely so. But also yes, I was mixed
up for that. But also it just didn't feel like
a finale really, like I I I guess spoilery, but
like we end our main threat sort of in this episode.
But I just still didn't really get like the finale
vibe by it. I felt like we had so much
more left to answer. And that's where, yeah, I felt
like eighty five percent sure that there is another season,
just with how this one ended, and if it didn't,
I'm gonna look just so much worse. I think on
the season as a whole, for what they tried to
set up and what they tried to kind of like
I guess tie up, Like I don't know, it was
just kind of messy across the board for how they
wanted to end a lot of the storylines. I feel
like there's a lot of plot points that just were
introduced at certain stages of the show and just were
never followed up on. And maybe I'm kind of alone
with some of those, like specifically like some geo stuff,
like maybe I was expecting for maybe I'm alone with that.
Speaker 2: One word to answer here pretty much like oh yeah,
like I don't care if it spoils like someone's like,
that's shitty about you, Eh, yeah, but you know, that's life,
and then they yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So maybe I was expecting some more of that stuff, but.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like the last couple of episodes have been like
a just a down down hill trajectory in the sense
of I've just been liking it less and maybe just
seeing certain things that I didn't have issues with early
on in the season. They just kept like ramping up
and hearing the finale just seemed like it was like
the big, big snowball coming at me to just squish
my enjoyment of the show. There there's still some like
sparkles in here that I did enjoy. I think the
uh like, the dynamic of the Morgans has always been
kind of fun for me. That yeah, just dev has
been a ten and of ten throughout the whole show.
I kind of wish she was in it more. But
also I feel like the distancing that she had amongst
like the rest of our crew maybe felt like the
most realistic in the sense of, like, we're letting this
person be a prequel character right now, And yeah, no,
I I don't know. I kind of want to just
jump into some spoiler stuff because I don't want to
miss say anything, but uh yeah, I definitely got the
feeling of what's a good terminology for it? The Boba effect.
How I always thought Boba Fett was a cool character,
you know, and then we get a prequel for him.
When I hear about getting a prequel for him, I'm like,
that's cool, yeah, or sorry, not a prequel. We're just
a solo story. I guess with Boba learn more about
the character. I fucking hate Boba Fett now, And when
I watch the original Star Wars, I'm just like, I
can't believe what this character ends up being, and I
just look sour on that character.
Speaker 2: Do you hate Dexter though? Is it Dexter a different character.
Speaker 1: Not Dexter other things? I'll yeah, I'll point it out
when we get there.
Speaker 2: But it was like, man, that's that's resurrection is gonna
be a tough review for.
Speaker 1: You, Patrick Gibson, Patrick Gibson, And like Dexter, I think
has been like the solid pillar for me throughout the
whole season. I think he's been really really solid, like
and and other characters too, I think have been really
really good. But us just feel in the cracks on
character's history here. I guess a lot of Harry stuff
I'm having issues with, and certain maybe brother of Dexter.
I just hating what we're getting with that, so hating
big h word. So uh yeah, if we have nothing else,
we can just jump right into U. So we'll take
our first ad break here and then we'll be back
to unravel this mystery. All right, we're back. Where do
you want to begin.
Speaker 2: I really don't know, Like I feel like there's I
feel like there's three sections. You got Dexter and the Cop,
and then you got the Morgans, and then you got
Brother Brian. I really don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to start with Brother Brian because that was
that was the thing with me that because I was
watching this was Shay and she's never seen like the
original Dexter or anything, so so so she was asking
many questions, yeah, and specifically about like Brian and that dynamic,
and I was telling her some things and I don't know,
I because because yeah, she's asking who this character is,
and I'm like, man, he's like probably arguably one of
the best villains in the entire Dexter mythos, Like like like.
Speaker 2: Those are the two answers, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly, And like I'm just laughing at the screen in
some of these scenes and she's like, oh, you must
really hate that character. I'm like, that's what's so sad
is I love that character in season one and this
is the Boba Fette thing where I fucking loved Boba
Fett when I first saw him, and then I get
more fill in story with him, and I just hate
that character now and all of the scenes with him,
whether it was him and Harry on the rooftop, whether
it was some more flashbacks of him stabbing his brother
in the hand because he stole his fucking pork chop
or something, or just getting tossed around family to family.
Everything I got with Brian Moser was just awful in
this entire show. I think I think I was okay
with it initially early on, Like I remember the episode
where h Taylor brought that to my attention where it's like,
you know, he's kind of they're covering some of like
his early serial killer things, and I was open to it.
But then the more we went down it, I just
hate it so much. It just I see this character
in such a cheeseball way. I think part of it
is also like the way that the actor was just
doing the character. I I don't know. I I don't
want to be too harsh on like the end acting portrayal,
but I just feel like a lot of the scenes
that he was trying to pull off, I just I
couldn't help but laugh because it was just so corny
and cheesy, and the especially with Harry. I have many
issues with Harry throughout this whole show, but it's.
Speaker 2: When the both of them are together, it's it's a
tough pill. Yeah, because that should be something, not that
it's like a hype moment, because like I never have
watched the show and been like, man, I really like that,
like in a what if scenario, sure, but like I've
never like, man, I wonder what Harry and O'Brien's scene
would be like. Right, but it's like, Okay, the show's
doing him, like I could see the benefit of Okay,
interesting concept, but it's tough when it's this version of
Harry in this version of Brian. And again I'm not
gonna say, guys, bad actor. I'm gonna say maybe he's
miscast or he's not well directed, because I'll just say
is whatever it is, or yeah, maybe he's a bad actor.
But you know, it's fine. When we make films all
the time, we'll say, hey, do another take, that was
a bad take, Like we all have those, and maybe
they got maybe they're just trying to get through this
stuff and the director is not like doing other takes. Yeah, yeah,
that's good, good enough. Whatever's happening. That performance is just
it is white bread, like it is paint. It's tough
to watch because the thing about Brian Moser in the show,
he does have a very solemn, calm way of speaking.
But even Christian Carmago, which that's why I think you
say his last name, he has like a charisma about
him when he's not making the fake Rudy, when he's
being Brian, he has something even scary about him. There's
nothing scary about Brian here. It's just it comes off
as very awkward. And I understand you could say, oh, well,
he's a good guy. It's early years. He hasn't made
that faintness, but there's just still it doesn't feel genuine right,
And even myself where I feel like, okay for me,
Patrick Gibson, it depends the scenery, but maybe I'll give
him like somewhere between a sixty to seventy percent of
me going like the approval right, not the one hundred percent.
To me, it's not like when I watched Don Glover Playlando,
I'm like, oh, he nailed it one hundred percent right.
I don't think Gibson's that, but I think it's like,
you know, he's done a very good job. When I
think it started, I think he's gone better. There's some
things that's not good. But either way, even with my
hold ups, I can say, okay, I can get there.
I can see that this is Dexter Morgan. I can't
see that this is Brian Moser or the ice truck killer.
So the performance, yeah, it's not great because also he
got slayered that I don't think he's great, Harry. But
then to me, it's the content where I actually it
sounds like you hate it. I didn't mind the he's
he's he's a bad seed and he's like doing he's
getting hurt and all this stuff because like what I
liked about it was at least it was people doing
it to him. So it was kind of a way
of like what what I felt like, I didn't like
last week where they made him Oh he's always violent
for the little thing this, I buy it, Like, hey
has some violent tendencies and now people are pushing him,
He's gonna push back, right, he just goes too far.
Fork in the hand. What did he do to the
closet kid that locked him up? I can't remember what
he did to him. They just beat him up or something.
When he's a kid. Yeah, yeah, I can't remember. But
either way, like I didn't mind that stuff. I'm not
gonna defend it that much, but okay, we go and
I actually didn't mind me so opening it from his perspective,
he's talking to the therapist, kills this therapist. He's just
leaving a trail bodies. But where I just don't get
to is I talked about this so Taylor, and then
we talked about last week where it's like, Okay, there's
ten to eleven years from now until season one. You
now have established a Brian Moser is around. That's a
very tough thing to put in that area. It's the
prequel whitest because it's like, this is something that should
not be here, but it's here, So what do you
do with it? You know, he's gotta you know, you
gotta maybe fake kill him off. He has to get
locked up again. No, Harry gives him some speech about hey,
Dexter's a good guy, he can be normal. I've given
him a good life and leave us alone. And then
they do this weird thing where Brian, like again just
fucking has Harry's number every time and gets the cuff
from him, beats Harry up, knocks him out. Harry's such
a bit when it comes to Brian, like it's his bride,
isn't that right?
Speaker 1: Brother? I was expected to honestly slap him again the roof,
like I just I thought he was just gonna beat
him and take his lunch money.
Speaker 2: So then they have this conversation where to me does
not fit at all. Brian just wants to see his brother,
but Harry makes the point that hey, he's had a
normal life, leave him alone. He knocks Hary out, uses
his own blood to spout, you're right. So there's there's
there's two things here, because I guarantee you some of
the comments is gonna say this, but I don't think
it tracks is or on discord whatever. During our discord,
they're probably gonna say, hey, Brian's gonna keep following them
and he's gonna see decks or kill someone, and that's
when he's gonna realize, oh, he is like me. But
to me, that just doesn't track with even this prequel.
But the beginning where it's just like he just wants
to get his brother. It's not even that it's a killer,
just like he wants to see his brother. They heavily
established that like he loves his brother, he's trying to
he's being a good kid. If hey, mom's busy, you
can't see her, she's just all chopped up. Like so,
I just didn't buy that. And then it's also like
if this Brian does go, you know what, Harry's right,
I'm fucked up. He's not gonna leave him alone. The
very next day they're dancing, he just there through the window.
I make it so ob He's just like, so, what
are we doing here? It's just it. That's the problem
where they can't do anything with this character. He can't
interact with deb They even fucking made him interact with Dexter,
which is just like is that scene in the show
or were they showing that that's something to happened off camera?
Speaker 1: For what scene?
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was because he talked to Dexter. Remember they
showed us that scene where he's like, oh was that
off camera? Did that happened in that episode?
Speaker 1: I don't really never saw his face, because I guarantee
we would have discussed that when we when we saw it.
I remember him saying that, but like, I don't remember
every face, and I'm.
Speaker 2: That I'm that is not as egregious as like where
the thing? Look? Where having the name everything? Like why
does she remember? That's fine, I don't expect Dexter remember
this guy who he saw eleven years ago for fifteen seconds.
That's fine, but it's like that's my worry of like
if they're already like dipping their toes and like, oh,
he's talking like how much more you brought? The Deborah
thing like I don't think he all kidnapped Deborah, but
it isn't the same thing of like what's he gonna
do there? So I think it's just it's it's very messy.
I think it's a cool thing to maybe add, but
the problem is you can't you're in a box. You
can't do anything with this character really, and then the
content that's on screen is not fun to watch. So
all around, it's just kind of a shit sandwich Brian
mos which sucks is he's one of my favorite TV characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely doesn't help the fact that the show
is situated eleven years before the event actually happens, Like
is he just watching him at restaurants for eleven years?
And Dexter is so clueless that he never notices that
this guy is just always around. I feel like at
some point, like he keeps running into him, he's gonna
he's gonna question it, especially for that long. So yeah,
it's big shit champ shit sandwich. When it comes to
Brian Moser here, I had to look it up. The
closet kid, he doesn't get back to the kid, the
mom like opens up the closet and he storms out
and just bites her in the arm. I Okay, of
course the lady's like reaction face is just hilarious. But
all of those flashback sequences of the little evil Brian
Moser chucky child, which just they're getting me, They're they're ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then also from this storyline too, we got
like Batista's like, oh, wasn't that a serial killer? And
Harry's like, no, Laguiter is a fucking idiot. She got
it all wrong. And La Guida overhears this and it's
like that is not some any interest in season two
because that, to me is also like the result is
the Guerda has to look more into Harry more in
the situation. And again, like I my backstory for La
Guera and the Morgans and the show is she works
with them. That to me is kind of it like
now that they feel I feel they're gonna make her
have like maybe a mini feud with Harry. I'm like,
I don't like any of It's just be like yeah,
I mean just didn't catch the like how did it
not pan out? How did this chan saw murder Harry?
Yeup didn't pan out that theory? It's like, but why not,
Like what disproves this? There's not like I don't know,
it's no.
Speaker 1: I I hate when they tried to add some more
like complex backstory to characters that we've already seen right
when it comes to and you know, you hate prequels
for many reasons, and I feel like that is a
big issue with them, where if you have a character
that we've spent many seasons like just with them, when
you try to like add a lot more content to
their origin story, it just it adds some inconsistencies on
Like now, if I watch the original show, it's like,
why didn't she have more hatred towards this character? You know,
like if especially the way that that scene played out
where she's just like eavesdropping on him basically saying that
you know, she's an idiot. I'm just playing into it,
you know, I'm I'm just entertaining the idea. Just keep
her busy. Like, I just hated that whole sequence, and
I really hated the fact that she was like getting
sketched out by you know him, hide and files and
all of this just revolves around the way that they're
doing Harry here, and I'm just I was very neutral
on him, I think early on, and he's just been
one character that I just really really hated. And part
of that, I think is the fact that it's Christian Slater.
I don't know, I don't want to judge him here,
but I feel like this is my only real media
thing that I can judge him with. So yeah, I
know he's bad.
Speaker 2: He's just miscast. I think that's where he is. I
think it's for me, that's where it is. But that's
where to transition into. So they actually know. We can't
talk about that yet because we got talk we got
talk about Pactor Dempsey first and the resolution there.
Speaker 1: Yes, Prince U what's his name, doctor, doctor McDreamy, dreamy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I swear, I'm telling you you need this tough.
I don't need you to watch Gray's anatomy. But I
do think he can be a great actor. I think
he's very underrated. It's very odd that he was just
in a movie last year where he was a villain character.
And I'm not gonna say it's like anything amazing Gold
and Geeks, but it's like, oh, this is a good
villain character. What's happening in this show, especially in this episode.
My man's just having fun because I was dying last
I watched this because we did Captain America. We did
Captain America and I had to edit that some up,
so I see it's like, okay, Dexter's lives. I was just
gonna watch it, right, So I'm watching and there's a
few things of like so we talk about kind of
very risk he dumb plan, but whatever Dexter plan completely
works where he because that's why I thought it would
be kind of somewhat fun as oh, early Dexter has
this great plan and it doesn't work, but no, he
leads him right to Nicki and Dexter saves Nikki. We'll
get there. But it's like, so Dexter's plan completely was
and then even his backup plan works out, but so
Dexter falls NICKI falls, you know the call, what's his
characters at Spencer, Spencer, thank you, Spencer to the hideout
big like villain, Like, I don't know where this thing is.
Speaker 1: He's a Russian fucking cargo take Peer two.
Speaker 2: This is where vest Ballid died in Casino run like
it's connect to that same bank. It's just crazy like
this this salary plays. Yeah, so he goes there and
I guess he's just gonna kill the kid. We do
get this nugget wish to me, it makes no sense.
Where Dexter confronts him and he tries like talking down
like I understand being a monster, and he's like there's
I Like, he's like there's ways of channel it, like
this guy's already killing kids, Like what are you gonna do?
You guys gonna team up, like.
Speaker 1: Gonna be apprentice?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you already cut his finger off. He's run around naked.
But there was a funny scene where he gets there
and there's just like a kitchen and pots and pants.
He's like, I don't even know what Dexter's doing. He
takes a paceful that he's hitting off. Oh Spencer, Yeah,
Oh you thought you thought I could get away and
leave me. It's like, what's going on here? Don't you
want the element of surprise? Like, what the fuck is
going on? They have this conversation they literally like Patrick
Dempsley literally does the like what type of moss you're
gonna be? You're gonna you're gonna say the kid or
get me. It's literally just bad. It's Green Goblin, the Riddler.
Speaker 1: I was thinking of The Riddler when he has when
he has Robin and the female level Kim. Yeah, yeah,
literally I thought that was the scene I was thinking of.
It's like you will have to choose Batman.
Speaker 2: It is a comic book nineteen sixties trope, like this
is what we're doing with this show, Like there's no
finesse know nothing, and then he uh yeah, Patrick Tims.
They have like a mini fight, which which is all right. Again,
I don't know if I need dexter having this amount
of hand to hand combat right now, but that is
something the show they do like the original show. They
say that he's very well trained. He took Nix's martial arts.
He has like so like because he beats up doakes
and doaks, like why is the lab heat like has
like a black belt in this like they've establed, they
have established in past can that he has trained. I
just didn't know if I need Like he hits him
with like a broom and Patrick Deimsy hits him with
the fire stinger. It got very like Batman sixty six.
But then yeah, he decides to save Nikki because he
just decides to, Like I don't even know where Patrick
Dempsy is in the rooms. We've seen them all in
these episodes. It's like a room and Patrick Timsey opened
the window. Now there's like ten feet up above them,
and there's like a lever that releases water. And that's
what he does to his son. And oh, sorry, we
went off the track. He reveals that. I guess another
reason is that this is not his biological kid. But
thats zero sense to me because I thought they're blood
matched on the box, Yes you are, So what am
I missing?
Speaker 1: Correct I inconsistencies in the writing, I guess. Or he's just.
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna kill your son and he's like, fuck,
he is my son or something like that, and then
he says again later to the wife, right, Patrick Dempsy says, like,
how could you tell me it was my son? But
like that was how Dexter caught him. Is Nikki's blood
matched the assaulter's blood?
Speaker 1: What are we doing I guess to play Devil's advocate.
Maybe he it is his son, but he's just so
twisted in the mind that he's just like I guess,
he's just formulating this this narrative that like it isn't
and that's why he's just snapping and going this crazy,
because you have to be crazy, you know, to just
murder your own son if you think that your wife
is chiefing with someone else or whatever the hell it
might be. So maybe they're playing that way, but they
didn't play that way at all. And the main issue
for me with that on why he is just so crazy.
I love the performance because it's just so entertaining. I
was tuning it up. I was laughing at my screen
so hard it was. It was crazy, and the dialogue
was just amazing. You know, we'll get there. Your name
was fantastic. But it's just I think the inconsistencies for
like how normal he was throughout the entire show, Like
there was no any glimpses of these of like him
like slipping or revealing something like this, where now it
just it you know, Captain America. It's like mind control,
like like he's just some code words went off and
I was just a completely different character and I I
just don't like that aspect to it. But then there's
the goofiness of it. And man, I honestly, when he
like chooses to save the kid, I'm like, man, this
is gonna be like a big thing, like he's probably
gonna escape, go into season two or something, you know,
like like like like this is not the end for
this character. This is gonna be a big thing that
Dexter didn't chase him because he's not gonna be able
to get him. Maybe this guy is gonna be able
to reveal something about Dexter. No, he just fucking shows
up at the wife's house.
Speaker 2: Oh no, none more time for this money. I think,
as Spinal Tap says, that's a destination of the bays
going on eleven or the half whatever, eleven out of ten.
Speaker 1: You know what, honey, who is the.
Speaker 2: When that happened? I'm up it's close to one. I
am and my god, because again, like this man's dead
to rights. He should be leaving the country's stat like yeah,
he like even if Dexter doesn't say the kid. He
knows it's him, He's gonna tell the cops, so he's
gonna go and kill the wife one again. This comes
back to many weeks where we said why is he
not canna the wife? Why why did they have the
scene where he's like hugging the wife that we're gonna
I'm gonna find our something like why didn't he kidnapp
them both? Why is he doing this stuff? We never
really wound to answer of why he kidnapped the judge's
son at all? Why did that kid need to die
at all? I don't understand it. Yeah, it makes no
sense that I was just trying to be you think
of Red Herring for the show. I get because like
it is trying to make it. I don't like even
a couple of weeks ago with the whole like cartail thing,
like I guess to take them out, but it's just
like it's very convoluted. And yeah, when she's watching the
news and the new husband's like, oh what you do,
and like, may let's say somethingbout Nikki. All right, well
I'm going to bed. So he's a piece of shit guy.
He comes flying down the stairs and if you are listening,
didn't watch the show. And then Patrick Dempsey comes downstairs.
He turns the corner and like that clip, I'm gonna
fucking kill you, and he is that for the next
three minutes. In that scene, he is wired. If you
would have told me, hey, Jack Nichols Gensey took a
little bump before that scene, I'd be like one hundred
percent because he is fucking he is going for Yeah,
he's genus in the shining, but like that when he
just kill he's like fromhi to be like ta the
whole season like calm to like now he's just lost
it and he just didn't feel warranted. So it was amazing.
I don't think that will ever come up again. But
I'm I can't delete that clip because that's gonna just
make me happy. It's I could not believe what I
was watching. I was just laughing, having a good time.
And then lo and behold Dexter who saved Nikki. Call
the police, Well, no, he shot a bunch of flares. Uh,
he's there. He manages to syringe him, get him out
of the house without anybody, the wife, the ex husband,
anyone seeing. And it's even Dexter, how cocky the writing
of the show. He starts pulling him. There's some on
the TV. Dexter stops to watch the TV like ohh
and then goes back to pulling. He's like, there's no
like like anticipate or not. There's no agency here. There's
like Dexter's in a house with people that are even
the woman who's conscious right now they can see me.
I gotta fucking go. It's just like, oh, just another
day being Dexter. So it's like Dexter was already in
like god tier mode here and it was like I said,
it was fun because it was funny but not fun
to watch his uh like wanting it to be good quality.
But that that moment him chase down the wife, fuck man,
that would that's the TV Emperor Drogue moment right there,
Like that was crazy.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I feel like this Dexter doing those moments. It's
like the showrunners just they really are leaning into the
plot armor of what this is, of like this being
a prequel, and it's like, no matter what happens, Dexter's
gonna make it through because that's what it's gonna happen.
So it doesn't matter if he has an Ak forty
seven and blowing up the whole fucking neighborhood like like
he's gonna get away, Fine, no one's gonna know who
he is. And like I I hated that when was
it mad Dog? Is that who that character was? When
uh dex when he ran out in the streets and
then he got hit by the car that's how he died.
Like that character when Dexter is running through the street
like just that.
Speaker 2: Even the guy who like went to like shoot like
he Dexter another one he one to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like neo and the main he just dodging
bullets like he's literally as a force field around him.
That's so much plot armor he has, and it's just
super egregious throughout the whole season. I feel like they're
not even trying to like explain it in like a
clever way on how he gets away with these Why
there's like no one in the neighborhood that would see this,
that aren't hearing Patrick Dempsey just screaming I'm a fucking girl,
yeah at the nine o'clock news. So, yeah, that's been
really frustrating for me. I already kind of said, like
the inconsistency inconsistency, Oh my gosh, inconsistencies of the of uh,
just throughout the whole season. We're already talked about Patrick
Dempsey and how he's just been very tactful early on,
and here he is at the end Jack Nicholson's style,
the Geo storyline that seemed like it was gonna be
going somewhere and then it didn't, and then what else?
What else? The Judge's son exactly, Like it feels like
something was rewritten, like throughout this whole season, and they're like, oh,
that's just not follow these stories.
Speaker 2: Like Brave New World, Yeah, what's happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I guess, like I'm trying to track, So did
he take the judge his son to? Like I don't
even know, because.
Speaker 1: Like it makes no sense how he framed them.
Speaker 2: Couldn't he just frame them with kidnapping just his son,
you know? And like did he want to tail the car? Tell? Like,
I have no idea what's between this between like I said,
his and like you said, maybe he's just he went crazy.
But there's so much I feel like they're trying. They
were trying to just do some wild twists to throw
you off. But then when you're at the end of it.
It just does not feel make sense, and maybe somebody
there can break it down. If someone's listening, please tell
me why he did the Judge's son specifically, because I thought, okay,
if you're trying to get away with it, and I
guess someone could say that was the pitch, right, that
he is trying to get away with in Dexter's The
Thorn Inside, But to me, it didn't seem like that
when it's really like he's not my son, like it
felt way more. It felt like a lot more work
than he should, Like he could just can nick I
don't know, kill but like no one found him, right
Dexter's when that found Nicky because this whole blood box thing,
Patrick Gamsony probably would have been better off just to
get Nikki and shoot him day one and he would
have got away with it because like he's keeping alive
for some weird rich or so I don't know, and
like why even then, like if he kills the other kid,
why does he do that?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I get it, I cut you off.
Speaker 2: No, I just thought it was weird that I was
wondering how they're gonna end it, and he just plastered
wrapped him and get on the boat, which I guess
them was funny, like oh I'm here again. But uh,
that was almost anti climatic for me too, because once
you do the plastic wrap one, it's like, what are
we gonna do for like the fall up, Well, we'll
just wrap him plastic and it's like, okay, that's it,
like like nothing, and I say the boat that's very risky.
He's all about non risk, like I don't.
Speaker 1: Know the boat that he's borrowing from that lady, you know,
like just covered blood and all the credits, Like there's
no way he got all the crevices, you know, like
there's no plastic wrap covering any of the blood and
it got all over everything.
Speaker 2: But poor fucking what's her name? That like it's gonna
go to prison when they like to call they go
when they tracked down who killed Captain Spencer and Caill's
bull just coppered in his blood.
Speaker 1: But man like especially that they're setting up that, uh,
Patrick Dempsey believes that this isn't his son, so he
fucking like he would fucking hate the child. I would imagine,
right if he if he hates the wife to this extent,
and then they go through the effort of like when
he's chopping off his finger and giving him the lunchibules
and like taking his jersey off him. He's like, don't worry,
it's not your like. It feels like a genuine like
type of like you did nothing wrong there.
Speaker 2: Resist cut remember, Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: But then here he is, he's ready to fucking kill
you and drowned the boy. I don't know. It's just
so inconsistent with what they're trying to portray the character,
and uh yeah, it's it's frustrating to watch, but also entertaining.
So I did enjoy because if you're gonna be goofy like,
you might as well go to balls to the walls,
like go full fucking guy. Just yeah, all right, we'll
take our next outbreak here and we'll be right back.
All right, we're back.
Speaker 2: I gotta I'll probably what I'll do is I'll cut.
When I keep that clip with that, I'll cut it
and I'll just have the Dempsey I'll fucking kill your
part to some reactions because it's a it is a
long clip, but man, it's the tumbles.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you got it. In there though, because it's
so funny that he like he like snuck into the
upstairs and then waited for the husband to get up
there to kick him down, just spart and kick him
down the stairs, and then that's how he starts the attack.
He doesn't just come in through the door or something.
Speaker 2: I guess maybe my thought is he was hoping there sleeping,
so he's gonna come in there and then kill them
and then leave. But yeah, I don't I don't know
them too. Oh yeah, why is he not just shooting
through the door when he's like like with his like
Jack Nicholson only had was an axe. So it's like, well,
I gotta cut down this door, Like, why is he
not like I believe Patrick jam would just put his
gun against the door and just start rapid firing. You know,
I need what I need called duty. I know you're
not gonna do this, but call duty. Need to do
a Dexter season you get down in there. Great, do
you get Dexter in there? But I need Captain Spencer
with that amode, I'll fucking kill you. Like I will
pay a full price game if I can have Spencer. Yeah,
oh no, no, I'll pay I'll pay a full game
price just to get Spencer and as long as it
carries over, you gonna make you that promise. But if
I can, for the rest of my Warzone career, every
time I gotta kill here, Patrick Jamsony, I'll fucking kill
you tense skin. That would be the promp thing. But yeah,
ripe to Captain Spacey, you will You'll be missed or Spencer. Sorry. Yeah,
and just because I'll forget about her. Shut Sarah Michelle Geller,
who really didn't do much at all in the show,
thought it was gonna be much more important. I thought
she was gonna be a victim. It's odd because, like,
you know, maybe just want to work, but I just
feel like Sarah Michelle Geller is at least my er.
It's different because I guess I grew up with a
Buffy a lot of other movies and everything, but just
feels like Patrick Dempsey. This feels like that feels like
a roll for a start. Take out the writing and
the character, some of the overacting. It's like that feels like, Okay,
you'd get like a star actor for the Big Bat, right,
because that's your villain. That makes sense. Graz now he's
been a bunch of movies. To me, you cast him
and what he was used for that feels appropriate, Sarah
Michelle Gellar just feels kind of like an afterthought in
this show. And I guess she's just is a part
of the crew, which was kind of odd for me.
So I don't know, if there's a season two, if
that gets a bigger relationship, I don't know. I said,
if she does get kill eventu, but it just just
didn't feel like a big deal. And even like, you know,
Masuka had one thing in here, Batista came back, but yeah,
I was surprised by just the lack of her, to
be honest.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I love the scenes that we had
with her. It was definitely making me just want more conclusions.
So hopefully we get that season two And she said.
Speaker 2: It you're in the hopefully card.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just by my reactions in the last couple
episodes because Shae wasn't with me for every episode. She
wasn't with me when I was loving it, you know,
in the early portions, just in these last couple of weeks,
just like, yeah, like you happy this is over. He
really hated the show, and I'm like honestly no, Like
I do want to see Patrick Gibson again. I think
he deserves another season. I think he was really really
good in this, just the fact that he was able
to like really capture the just Goofball Dexter when he's
like just being like a normal person, I guess, interacting
with everyone like he's got that Miami Metro badge. He
was doing the spins in the chair like I'm like, man,
like he's he's home here. Like I do like seeing
this aspect of the character and with where we are
with our Michael C. Hall, Like we're never gonna get
that again of him, like working in the lab because
you know, the bunny he's out of the hat, like
he's too late for him. Yeah, it's too late for him.
So I do want more of that. I want more
dev I want more Batista, like all of our other characters,
I am really enjoying. It's just a lot of the
I think a lab stuff they were doing with with Harry,
who not really a fan here. I I guess I'm
not surprised that we didn't get him like dying here.
Speaker 2: I kind of but like yah, And see that's where
we can circle back to where we started with the
whole Patrick Dempsey thing because I didn't want to talk
about ntil we did this. So he gets beat up
by brian right, he gets how brothers lapped, He's concussed,
he's bleeding, shows up with the hospital no like and
same thing like LaGuerta, I guess I should set up
that they are going to the dexter. Uh what are
they called social worker, right or Brian's social worker murder?
You know, I didn't mean to separate you. I'm gonna
separate you that thing right, chance on the roof. So
we get that whole scene of Harry and brian Na.
But during this Laguera is looking for Harry actively, right,
They're like, hey, we want to bound some theories off him.
You like, where is Harry, where's the tectamor you had?
I would assume she never found him because he got
knocked out, and then he went to the hospital because
I think he was checking on deb that he was
maybe worried that he was gonna go there or something.
He walked to the hospital. He's bleeding, like, but he's
actually nonchalant in the nonchalant but like blood is dripping
down his head and no one's like, sir, you okay,
worst nurses and doctors ever around. You're not helping mister Morgan.
But anyway, so he gets checked out or they just
who cares. Mike is all right whatever his friend is.
But we skipped to the next day where because Harry
doesn't know what's going on with Dexter, right, and then
he learns like all the news, oh the number one
suspect is Captain Spencer and uh the boy was found
and the boy said he was saved by someone. And
here's like you did all that. He's like, yeah, I
did it, and it would be only because of you
because the code. Two things One, I was very disappointed
that the last time we had Dexter come and say like, hey,
I think Captain Spencer's a fucking killer like me. We
should do something. Harry's just like, you are fucking crazy.
They never had another conversation about it till then we
didn't get a scene of Harry like looking at Spencer
and differently, to me, that's a huge dramatic point. That
was its boss. It's one of Harry, I'd say in
this show, best friend, and I think Harry barely reacted
to getting this confirmed that Spencer was a child murderer,
like he just felt like a It'd be different if
there's just like a just on a work there, right
like Batista. Fine, but this is like they're having drinks together,
they're going to the bar after work, they are friends
outside of work. Felt like a no chalanp thing. And
for me again, so if you're not seeing the original
series of Dexter Myersports, but the setup is Harry eventually
finds Dexter killing a guy. It's a criminal whatever, all
by the code, but he finds him, he sees them,
he throws up, and then Harry commits suicide because he
decides like, man, I really fucked up here. But to me,
this revelation of like Dexter, like I said, being full
batman saving a life, saving a kid, to me, that
would make even if Harry saw him chopping a guy up,
would put the perspective of kid, this is gross, and
maybe he would be like sort of like you have
the code, but Dexter, I can't see you anymore, like
you're to me your monster, Like I can't process seeing you.
But like he's still is deb around and he sells
his life. So to me, how happy and how proud
Harry was of him here does not compute me later
on that he sees him killing Guy's like, I'm gonna
end my fucking life. Dexter's complete monster. Especially Dexter Here's
like to me, very like emotional. Yeah, I couldn't let
him get that kid. I had to say it, like
it feels like it's more like the most human we've
seen Dexter, which I don't enjoy because, like, to me,
Dexter when we meet Michael see all season one, he's
a fucking android. He's a robot. It takes a while
for him to like get some personality. So again I
just feel like Harry is this is not tracked for me,
that Harry is gonna feel so ashamed by Dexter that
he's gonna kill himself. I could understand, if you know,
he just kills Spencer and they don't make a big
deal about him saving the kid, and Harry doesn't think
about that. But now he's already processing the idea of
man my code is leaving to people's lives being saved.
But again, in ten years or like eight years time,
he's gonna see Harry in the Dexter in the kill Room,
which again I was on that review, but I fucking
hated Harry on the table as well because Harry, I know,
you guys point out he's concussed, he's drug but still
Harry has a concept of what Dexter does to me,
and the original series, that's what it was. It's kind
of like the donuts don't tell policy back in the day, right,
like someone might say like, hey, you're you're a soldier,
you're gay, but as long as I don't see you
kissing a man, dat a man, whatever, go do what
you want. And then the second you'd see that big
it would be like, how dairy? How could you that?
Speaker 1: To me?
Speaker 2: Was Harry, I'm gonna teach the code, but just do yourself.
You go be a serial killer. I don't want to
talk about discuss it. So I would buy that when
he sees it, it's like Harry like he can't process it.
But this feels like he's way too much in the weeds.
He feels like he's fully on board with Dexter the
serial killer. So for me, it just again doesn't technically
break any cannon, but it just doesn't match to me
kind of motivations wise for what happens later on, So
I know it was a lot, but it just that
was stuff that was hurting. The original show for me
was this conversation because Harry was really proud and when
they were dancing, the thing against like the code's yours
now and all this stuff, which is not true. It's
always Harry's code. It together now each other. Yeah, so
I didn't. I didn't enjoy any of that aspect of
Harry and the Captain Spencer resolution.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, me, me neither. It seems like it
should have been so much bigger for specifically because they
are so close and they have been best friends for
so long and I imagine like pretty much twenty ish
plus years that they've like noticed from.
Speaker 2: Almost Dexter's whole life, because remember the flashbacks and the
Dexters of like a five four year old kid, and
Dexter's now what in his twel so he's not.
Speaker 1: Almost two decades now at least at least, yes, and
like for.
Speaker 2: For their friends that whole time, I assume.
Speaker 1: And like, was he just this crazy or is it
just because his ex wife just made him this crazy?
Like that that's just it, That's what he.
Speaker 2: Was sucking some guy, but still was his son at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I why not.
Speaker 2: Just kill him? Why not just kill the husband and
the wife instead of the kid.
Speaker 1: You know, but I'll fucking kill you he was going
to you know. Yeah, oh yes, I hated that so much.
I almost feel like with I almost feel like with Harry,
it'll be it would be better if they kind of
change the suicide, like like it like maybe it isn't
a suicide, maybe it's supposed to be done that way,
or like just different circumstances, because you're completely right, it
does not it's not gonna feel like it, Like it
should make sense if if he is this close to
Dexter actually doing the deeds and like kind of pretty
much he was on the table, he's seen the POV
of people getting stabbed, and then to where he is
later on, he just walks. He just walks in sees
it and that's enough for him to just, uh yeah,
commend it aside. And I I can't. I can't digest
that pill. So I honestly I'm hoping that they do
switch it up in some way to make it seem
like it's more than what meets yet, but the problem.
Speaker 2: Is if you switch it up. That's a huge moment
for Dexter because oh yeah, I know, yeah yeah. In
season two, Dopes tells him this, and then in season
three it's all about how Dexter hates Harry and he can't,
like he just feels his whole life is a lie
because he like gave up on him. So that's where
I like, now the original show would be hurt by
this whole arc of and you know what happens is
because he's so mad at Harry. He reveals to Debora
like Dad wasn't perfect, he was kind of an asshole,
and he reveals the whole cheating thing, and that leads
Deborah to start looking into Brian Moser and then she
makes connections. So that's like it's a complete because the
original one to four fought things out and it's a
complete domino effect. So to me, it would be now
weird of like, oh, now, if we watch season three,
Dexter shouldn't be mad at Harry because it didn't go
down that way. My worry and what I really don't
want them to do, but I could see them doing it,
as I worry they're gonna make Brian do it. That
is my That is my concern that they're gonna have
Brian take it out Harry and I just I really
don't want that Attican. That's a huge thing for Michael C.
Hall's dexter to not find out. And even then it'd
be like retroactively, like after the fact, like Brian's already dead,
so it wouldn't do it like that bastard killed my
Like it's it's messed up. I maybe hope that the
show actually never gets the point where Harry kills himself,
you know, because for this show, then it might not
we don't have to worry about feeling clunky because it's
just it just ends and maybe go in between years
something happened. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Like from my perspective, I feel like it's
it's pretty much a lose lose situation where the show
is already getting so so far from the normal continuity
of what the original show is that like they can't
they can't really like meet the two roads together when
it comes to the Harry stuff, so it might as
well just make it way different, you know, like like
don't even try to get it close because because you're
not gonna it's not gonna be satisfying. You're not gonna
make it digestible in the sense that we the viewers
like believe that this is the same Harry. We already
don't feel that way, especially when you have those Miami
Vice seventies flashbacks with Lord Moser that you know, well, well,
we'll definitely be missing but yeah, I don't know, like
just commit to the completely different storyline there. But what
you said there about potentially just yeah, us not get
to the point of him commit suicide. I feel like
that would actually be a lot more interesting. Well, we'll
have a lot more I feel like we'll have deb
like basically on the Force by then with we're just
gonna have the three Amigos, the three Morgan's working together,
and it's it doesn't really make sense cont newitywise, but
like at the same time, I'm down with it sort
of with like the cast that we have, so like,
let's just go full multiverse here and like really just
have this be its own little story. And I maybe
maybe we're too far gone though maybe that's something that
maybe the you know, they should have had early on.
But I think that's a lot of a lot tougher
of a show to sell, you know, when they're when
they're pitching their originals in the idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure what the because I just
rewashed and I can't, like, I know, deb reveals that
she like she reveals that she did tell Harry she
was gonna be a cop. But I don't think they
ever talked about if and then he commits suicide.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the kill room thing.
Speaker 2: Heart blew out. Yeah, it wasn't that's what they'll do.
It'll just be he did kill himself, but it was
something else that week that made him kill himself, and
it just happened to be the same week that he
saw Dexter and threw up and said stay away from me.
It's like it's gonna be something he made a bad
debt or you know, yeah, he remembered he killed his
fucking other kid by being a drunk. I don't know
what it is, but like that, Yeah, I don't think
in the show they ever clarified if Harry was still
in the force when deb started being because when the
show starts with Debra, she's like she's an undercover, like
call girl, Like she's pretty low in the total poll.
So I don't know if they'll ever get there, but
I guess you got because like how like I don't
know what in the nineties, how long does it take
to be cop? To become a police officer?
Speaker 1: Six months?
Speaker 2: Interesting? You think it's six months.
Speaker 1: I guess, like what to have a cop though, like a detective.
Speaker 2: Training runs three to six months, and then well Vancouver
Police Department training takes forty four weeks.
Speaker 1: You can mean good cops.
Speaker 2: That's to me at least at least two years. I
feel like that's kind of well, there's just under a
year become a cop. I know there's but still just
become a cop after less than a year.
Speaker 1: I would imagine like there's like criminology degrees where like
that's probably what you'd go with, like a detective and
like that type of avenue. So but like she does
also just service because she because she starts as an
off like a like a uniformed officer.
Speaker 2: Yeah she is, yeah, because she's undercover as a call girl,
trying to catch the you know, and then it was okay,
So to be a detective says about two to five years.
Obviously a bunch of stuff and like key points. Remember,
so you need police Academy training patrol. After the academy,
do patrol duty, which you typically work as a patrol
officer for period time experience requirement. Most departments require several
years of patrol experience before considering for detective experience position
detective exams to become detective you usually need to pass.
So that's where it's two to five. So that's where
I guess, like the two to five is questionable because
like if someone's like just a fuck and I guess
great Porolofs or whatever, they're just like or patrol, they're
just like nabbing all the bad They're like fucking Patrick
Dempsey on the streets. They can go up high and stuff.
So that's where Yeah, so I guess there could be
a chance that she gets on the first spot. I
would prefer that, even if he's alive, for him to
be retired while she's there. I don't know if like she's.
Speaker 1: Got the NISM thing though, right, that could fast track
her career. Just the fact that she's a Morgan, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, they could. And then La Guarda still hates
her and stuff, even though in the show she doesn't
hate her for that. But look where it is after Harry.
Speaker 1: Now, so I'm gonna take this down on your on
your daughter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's it for me. I'll check my notes.
I know I had some notes, but I think i've.
Speaker 1: Hear I liked the scene. I pretty much liked every
scene that deb was in this whole show, but the scene.
Speaker 2: I only had one note for this shot.
Speaker 1: That's the only note that you need.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: I like the scene between deb and uh Bob was
that his name? The guy that got shot like her
godfather m.
Speaker 2: I thought it was Mike, but I think you're right,
that's probably Bob. But yeah, it was good. Yeah, Like
I like the scene.
Speaker 1: She's just she's just so good at this character. I
really like that actress portrayals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like that they kind of like dovetail
the thing of their friend, you know, just like, oh,
like guys, guys should have given been on your side
a bit more in it.
Speaker 1: DA.
Speaker 2: Like that's a character that like, I don't love, but
I also didn't hate. I liked the actress enough too,
so like if you were to pop up and seas
it like, because here's the thing like Deborah just being
on the police force like academy, Like let's say, go
to season two, we get it and there's like no
time jump if it's just like deb training become a cop,
other than like, oh there's some asshole women that hate
her or bully her or whatever, like there's nothing too
fun and juicy to do with dead that if she's
training to be a cop, right, where at least her
going out parting with her friend, like you can get
into some situations. Maybe you bring Gill back that way
or something. Maybe it's like her first case or something.
Maybe do something like that. I don't know, but that's
where I think it's it's good at least I'm not
saying I don't need a whole season and then go
on road trip, but like an episode two, hey, I'm
going out with this person and something happens, right, or
maybe because Deborah is a cop, maybe they do their
verse where her friend's dating somebody that she thinks is
shady and that's some tension there, which also could end
up being lame. But it's just I'm happy that she's
like around for something else, because you know, Dexter's gonna
keep killing people, so that's Dexter Harry's gonna have some feud.
Will look where now. So I don't want that, but
that's what Harry is doing, like I said, as right now,
the trajector would just be we're gonna fall Deborah into
like police academy, which is like, like I said, not
a pitch, Like, that's nothing against me juicing right now.
So I need need to to have some more stuff
going on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's fair. I Uh. One last thing for me,
I hated the I guess adolescent teen sort of Brian
Moser like when he's in like the hospital asking for
more pills and they give him the you know, the
good old Dexter hair.
Speaker 2: I fucking need him, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was the same energy basically as
kind of a spencer. It's just such a ball man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't enjoy that.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool. Uh do you want to give your final
number rating?
Speaker 2: Oh listen, this is a This is a tough rating
for me.
Speaker 1: You're gonna pass it or fail it. I guess that's
the first.
Speaker 2: That's even tough for me too, Like it's it's an
episode by episode, but for me, I have to I
gotta fail it for And there's two scores here. The
segregated show by itself to me is like a six
six point five fine enough, had some episodes that's some
really bad plots and episodes that brought it down. So
that's where it is. But as a show in the
you know, in the Dexter family tree, as someone that's
a diehard Dexter fan, that's where I have to fail
because to me, it's just when we start getting to
and I definite agree with you guys and say, Okay,
is it a big deal that Dexter, like Harry's gonna
the Harry when he kills himself. Seen, is it a
big deal that Dexter's gonna have short hair? No? Whatever, Right,
it's just the hair. Now for me, this show started
to do more stuff that, you know, the Brian stuff,
some of Harry's motivations, like even the stuff with Dexter
in this where it's like this feels too grandiose form.
It started to do that where it's like I wish
it was more just like the little connuity stuff that
I issue it. This is more just it's impacting how
characters would act. To me, it's like I said, it's
no longer they would be on the same trajectory. It's
like a Marvel multiverse. It'd be like, now they should
pivot down road be So that's where I have to
fail because I just feel some of it's a little
lazy from the writers that they just to me, it
feels like the writers are just writing their own show.
But that's where it's not. It's still, as far as
I've been told, a prequel and Michael Shole's narrating it
is a prequel to Dexter season one, And that's where
I think I have to fail them because I don't
think they match up with what the what the job
is there, with what the characters are, what the arcs,
what the story is, and I think there's elements of
like we said, the Brian stuff. Hey, if you can't
pull it off, that's when there's a whole writers room
with TV shows. That's why everyone should look at you
and be like, you know what, this isn't working. There's
too many holes, Like I get it, I struck here,
that's a cool tie or something like that. But you know,
maybe this is just too tough for us to pull off.
But to me, it's just like someone's in the room like,
but you know, would probably do good ratings or people
remember that, right, So let's just do it, and it's
just so that's where I'm I'm a four out of
ten there. I'd have to fail it on that aspect,
and that would be my overall score if someone did ask, hey,
if I had just pick one score, it's a four
just because they had. There's some stuff, but this sh
overall was a fine enough watch. Very much of a
roller coaster though, of you never knew each week what
you were what you were getting. And yeah, what I'd
say too, is because there's some rumors, and I don't
know how much to bud, but there's some rumors that
Patrick Gibson's in New York right now where they're filming Dexter.
That's what I would be down for is in the
news shows of Dexter. The next time I see Patrick Gibson,
it's just when they do a flashback at Dexter, it's
no longer Michael c All in a wig. It is
Patrick Gibson playing with them. That's what I want. That's where,
more than a season two of Dexter do some story
where in Dexter Resurrection it does tie to his past
where he thinks about flashbacks again. Maybe that's how James
Mars back I would love to see Patrick Gibson act
with James Ramar and not Christian Slater. I know James
Marris gonna look like twenty years older now, but still
it's like whatever, So that's where I would like to
see Gibson. I do hope those rumors are true. I
don't need a season two, but if it happens, I'll
be here because I love Dexter. Someone was hoping, but
uh again, just like Pat Patrick Dempsey stuff, There'll be
some fun stuff, but that's rare am I had to fail.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately fair enough. Yeah, this is uh, this is a
tricky one for me. I haven't watched Dexter in a while.
This show did a good job at making me want
to like just reminded me of you know, some of
the Prime Peak moments and just the the everyday Dexter
when he's working at Miami Metro, like solving crimes. I
liked how this show had a little bit of that
in there wasn't the main focus of it. Maybe I
maybe I wish that was actually the case. We didn't
have this crazy Captain Spencer, you know a little bit. Yeah,
because I think those moments were really good, just the
way that he was like reading the crime scene. It
felt very genuine like Michael C. Hall, so uh a
little unfortunately didn't go that that way. I think overall, though,
I am going to pass the show just because I
did have a really good fun time with it. It
was also fun just to have a week to week
or sorry, a weekly show. We skipped one week there
for some reason? Did they did they say why they
skipped a week?
Speaker 2: No idea because it wasn't even during a holiday.
Speaker 1: They just yeah, it was like mid January. It was weird.
It worked out for us for Taylor and I because
we both had some time.
Speaker 2: It wasn't ready they stuff.
Speaker 1: But no, I I'm I didn't gonna give this one
a six out of ten, which us it's an alright score,
but it is pretty It is a pretty drastic drop
off from maybe where I thought I would have rated it,
where where I was like episode two or three, like
I was really really viving with the show, like I
was like nine ish up there, So definitely a sharp
drop off at the end.
Speaker 2: You guys were pretty hid at the ben remember, yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, absolutely it was fun to you know,
have you in the comments you can hear your your
vocal complaints with the continuity issues there.
Speaker 2: It's like the show though, you know, like the original
Dextra show starts strong and then just quickly, not quickly,
but over time peered off. And that's what this was,
except it was with episodes were kind of a downward directory.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there there is a real reason why you replaced, Taylor.
You know you you're listening to our reviews.
Speaker 3: If people want to wonder.
Speaker 1: When that was you coming into the.
Speaker 2: Review, that's what I did, Taylor. Yeah, I people want
to wonder what happened off camera pants Will attacked me.
It was pretty much that it was pantsol Will come down,
I'm gonna fucking kill you, and I had to fight
for my life. Luckily the police showed up. But yeah,
I'm happy that clipping.
Speaker 1: That's why I got to use as much as we can.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, like I said, I'm gonna get a
truncated version, so not on show that aren't dexter people
are gonna understand. But yeah, yeah, you know, so who
who knows? I don't know what's happening, but uh yeah,
we'll see. We'll cover on newscats. I guess if they
announced the season two I think it's gonna. I think
it's gonna There are a lot of I won't say
loose ends, but open doors left open. And to me,
it's like if they did a Dexter prequel Dexter Resurrection,
and a Trinity prequel show, I feel like that show's okay.
People are watching Dexter. They still like this genre, this character,
the story. So I imagine there will be a season
two and uh yeah, we'll see what we cover. At
least I'm kind of happy because I did say at
the beginning of the show that I didn't want them
to like fight a big serial killer, and I guess
he didn't. Patrick Empsey isn't a serial killer. Only took
two victims, right, So there wasn't like a a serial
It was a criminal. It was a serial killer tormenting Miami.
But uh yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: We'll see. All right, Well, we'll be there, so make
sure checking you know, keep youry on the feeds during
the discord, do all those good things, and until next time,
we'll see you.