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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying. Okay, that's cool. Hello, ladies

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and gentlemen, welcome to another geek first review. I am

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one of your hosts Slice of Pie, Kirkland, Patzer, and.

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Speaker 2: I'll fucking kill you Travis Snail.

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Speaker 1: You need some door knocks in there too, some some

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fisted doors. Yes, ladies, gentlemen, if you don't know what

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we're talking about, we're gonna be revealing Dexter Original Sin.

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We got the season finale here tonight. Yeah, before we

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get into that, just a couple of plugs. We just

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did a big, juicy Marvel review Captain America New World Order. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Not all reviews are, like I'm not saying like they're

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we always put out good content. But I think there's

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always there's some bad reviews, you know those Travis Solo reviews, Holy.

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Speaker 1: Shit, Oh yes, but not Kirklan Solo reviews. Yeah, just amazing. Yeah,

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And uh yeah, we got just a lot of stuff

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going on. But I'm just excited to talk about Dexter,

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so I just want to jump into it. Here we

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are in the finale. Travis here, you just kind of

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took Taylor spot and that's okay. You know I had

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him in the beginning. You at the end it's long

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whose boat you were borrowing? But yeah, so we'll definitely

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and after nine when we talk to our patrons about

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what they were thinking about the show as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if not, I'll probably get his thoughts. Next week

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is me and him. That's the other thing. Weekly Geek

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is back next week. We all don't know what that is.

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That's a show where it's always rotating member between two

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of us because like Kirkland just said, we got Dexter, sorry,

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we got Darrel up and ors coming up. There's tons

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of reviews in the summer, so that's what we'd always

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got a newscast and the first bring it back is

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me and Taylor, So Mike might get his thoughts there

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and then the Oscar Ones. I don't know if Dexter's

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coming up there, but I would like to talk about

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Dexter the next time of the Patriots, because I know

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it'll come up to because don't forget we have so

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they keep saying that I'm surprised because they're shooting right now,

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but they say Dexter Resurrections, Resurrection.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it's great Dexter universe. Man, They're going to

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have fifty projects like the Mu.

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Speaker 2: It's Trinity coming to remember like that.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that project. Is Michael see all attached

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be a Peiing No just Dumbledore, just Dumbledore.

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Speaker 1: Just double Dore. Okay, but what do you think about

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it here in the finale? What do you think about

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this just the season as a whole. I guess you

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can give kind of your I don't know if that's

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better to discuss spoiler section versus spoiler free. I mean,

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if you made it this far, you're you're pretty caught up.

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You're like ninety percent of the way there for the spoilers.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you think so, Austin, Like I said last week,

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had like it was a good week, bad week, good week,

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didn't like them adding, but other than that, I was like, Okay,

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this is better. I think this might be the worst

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episode of the show, which is shitty to say. I'm

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hoping it didn't end that way. I do feel like

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the fun momentes are like so bad, it's so good

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per my name, and I'll get to that in spoilers,

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so I think I will review them. But as a take,

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to solve with one of the characters talk about last week,

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and the way they solved it was very anti climat

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to continue to make much sense, and then the issue

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with another character just felt very comedic and action movie heavy,

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which I don't like. Season one to four of Dexter,

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the Carver's table or no, it was a skinner. He

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and he threw the skinner off a roof. But that's

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usually but then the later seasons he just becomes Batman, right,

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this is like the beginning stages. So to think about

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to think about when we get to Dexter in season

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one that he's been through this, I'm like, I feel

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like this is already too much. You know, this just

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feels like if you were to learn, oh, before Batman

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a trajectory of like there's certain things to me he

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shouldn't be. He's he doesn't have the skill tree unlocked

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yet to do these things, but he feels like he's Dexter.

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what you guys talked about the beginning, which I agreed

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to a point, But there was fun moments of saying, Okay,

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this is an early Dexter. He's learning there's gonna be mistakes.

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episode as a looking at critically, as just enjoyment. I

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this stuff, but it's probably my second least out of

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feel like they know now people tune in the show,

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and I felt like it's not that there was cliffhangers

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in the end of this season, but it felt very

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things that are like, oh, what could happen here? The

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thing is, we know what's gonna happen, right, we know

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the trictory, but they're saying, oh, what could happen to

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very much connecting point A to point B right now.

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in the show that Harry, you know, I'm gonna wait

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just in case. But I just feel like there's a resolution,

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it was, Hey, we're rebooting Dexter, but we're gonna start over,

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and I think that would be exciting. Oh the stuff

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entire season, which is unfortunate to have in the finale.

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just because we're doing so many reviews right now, I

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get them mixed up on some end with nine, twelve

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Speaker 1: Go, right, absolutely so. But also yes, I was mixed

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vibe by it. I felt like we had so much

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more left to answer. And that's where, yeah, I felt

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like eighty five percent sure that there is another season,

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just with how this one ended, and if it didn't,

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the season as a whole, for what they tried to

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Speaker 2: One word to answer here pretty much like oh yeah,

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that's shitty about you, Eh, yeah, but you know, that's life,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So maybe I was expecting some more of that stuff, but.

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Speaker 1: I like the last couple of episodes have been like

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a just a down down hill trajectory in the sense

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kind of fun for me. That yeah, just dev has

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been a ten and of ten throughout the whole show.

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also I feel like the distancing that she had amongst

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like the rest of our crew maybe felt like the

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person be a prequel character right now, And yeah, no,

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jump into some spoiler stuff because I don't want to

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miss say anything, but uh yeah, I definitely got the

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feeling of what's a good terminology for it? The Boba effect.

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you know, and then we get a prequel for him.

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that's cool, yeah, or sorry, not a prequel. We're just

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a solo story. I guess with Boba learn more about

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the character. I fucking hate Boba Fett now, And when

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I watch the original Star Wars, I'm just like, I

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can't believe what this character ends up being, and I

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just look sour on that character.

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Speaker 2: Do you hate Dexter though? Is it Dexter a different character.

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Speaker 1: Not Dexter other things? I'll yeah, I'll point it out

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when we get there.

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Speaker 2: But it was like, man, that's that's resurrection is gonna

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be a tough review for.

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Speaker 1: You, Patrick Gibson, Patrick Gibson, And like Dexter, I think

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whole season. I think he's been really really solid, like

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and and other characters too, I think have been really

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really good. But us just feel in the cracks on

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character's history here. I guess a lot of Harry stuff

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I'm having issues with, and certain maybe brother of Dexter.

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I just hating what we're getting with that, so hating

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big h word. So uh yeah, if we have nothing else,

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we can just jump right into U. So we'll take

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to unravel this mystery. All right, we're back. Where do

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Speaker 2: I really don't know, Like I feel like there's I

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feel like there's three sections. You got Dexter and the Cop,

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and then you got the Morgans, and then you got

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Brother Brian. I really don't know.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with Brother Brian because that was

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that was the thing with me that because I was

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watching this was Shay and she's never seen like the

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original Dexter or anything, so so so she was asking

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many questions, yeah, and specifically about like Brian and that dynamic,

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and I was telling her some things and I don't know,

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I because because yeah, she's asking who this character is,

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and I'm like, man, he's like probably arguably one of

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the best villains in the entire Dexter mythos, Like like like.

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Speaker 2: Those are the two answers, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, And like I'm just laughing at the screen in

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some of these scenes and she's like, oh, you must

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really hate that character. I'm like, that's what's so sad

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is I love that character in season one and this

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is the Boba Fette thing where I fucking loved Boba

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Fett when I first saw him, and then I get

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more fill in story with him, and I just hate

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that character now and all of the scenes with him,

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whether it was him and Harry on the rooftop, whether

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it was some more flashbacks of him stabbing his brother

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in the hand because he stole his fucking pork chop

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or something, or just getting tossed around family to family.

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Everything I got with Brian Moser was just awful in

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this entire show. I think I think I was okay

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with it initially early on, Like I remember the episode

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where h Taylor brought that to my attention where it's like,

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you know, he's kind of they're covering some of like

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his early serial killer things, and I was open to it.

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But then the more we went down it, I just

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hate it so much. It just I see this character

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in such a cheeseball way. I think part of it

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is also like the way that the actor was just

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doing the character. I I don't know. I I don't

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want to be too harsh on like the end acting portrayal,

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but I just feel like a lot of the scenes

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that he was trying to pull off, I just I

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couldn't help but laugh because it was just so corny

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and cheesy, and the especially with Harry. I have many

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issues with Harry throughout this whole show, but it's.

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Speaker 2: When the both of them are together, it's it's a

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tough pill. Yeah, because that should be something, not that

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it's like a hype moment, because like I never have

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watched the show and been like, man, I really like that,

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like in a what if scenario, sure, but like I've

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never like, man, I wonder what Harry and O'Brien's scene

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would be like. Right, but it's like, Okay, the show's

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doing him, like I could see the benefit of Okay,

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interesting concept, but it's tough when it's this version of

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Harry in this version of Brian. And again I'm not

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gonna say, guys, bad actor. I'm gonna say maybe he's

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miscast or he's not well directed, because I'll just say

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is whatever it is, or yeah, maybe he's a bad actor.

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But you know, it's fine. When we make films all

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the time, we'll say, hey, do another take, that was

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a bad take, Like we all have those, and maybe

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they got maybe they're just trying to get through this

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stuff and the director is not like doing other takes. Yeah, yeah,

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that's good, good enough. Whatever's happening. That performance is just

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it is white bread, like it is paint. It's tough

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to watch because the thing about Brian Moser in the show,

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he does have a very solemn, calm way of speaking.

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But even Christian Carmago, which that's why I think you

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say his last name, he has like a charisma about

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him when he's not making the fake Rudy, when he's

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being Brian, he has something even scary about him. There's

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nothing scary about Brian here. It's just it comes off

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as very awkward. And I understand you could say, oh, well,

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he's a good guy. It's early years. He hasn't made

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that faintness, but there's just still it doesn't feel genuine right,

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And even myself where I feel like, okay for me,

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Patrick Gibson, it depends the scenery, but maybe I'll give

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him like somewhere between a sixty to seventy percent of

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me going like the approval right, not the one hundred percent.

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To me, it's not like when I watched Don Glover Playlando,

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I'm like, oh, he nailed it one hundred percent right.

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I don't think Gibson's that, but I think it's like,

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you know, he's done a very good job. When I

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think it started, I think he's gone better. There's some

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things that's not good. But either way, even with my

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hold ups, I can say, okay, I can get there.

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I can see that this is Dexter Morgan. I can't

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see that this is Brian Moser or the ice truck killer.

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So the performance, yeah, it's not great because also he

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got slayered that I don't think he's great, Harry. But

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then to me, it's the content where I actually it

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sounds like you hate it. I didn't mind the he's

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he's he's a bad seed and he's like doing he's

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getting hurt and all this stuff because like what I

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liked about it was at least it was people doing

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it to him. So it was kind of a way

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of like what what I felt like, I didn't like

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last week where they made him Oh he's always violent

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for the little thing this, I buy it, Like, hey

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has some violent tendencies and now people are pushing him,

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He's gonna push back, right, he just goes too far.

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Fork in the hand. What did he do to the

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closet kid that locked him up? I can't remember what

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he did to him. They just beat him up or something.

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When he's a kid. Yeah, yeah, I can't remember. But

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either way, like I didn't mind that stuff. I'm not

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gonna defend it that much, but okay, we go and

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I actually didn't mind me so opening it from his perspective,

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he's talking to the therapist, kills this therapist. He's just

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leaving a trail bodies. But where I just don't get

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to is I talked about this so Taylor, and then

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we talked about last week where it's like, Okay, there's

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ten to eleven years from now until season one. You

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now have established a Brian Moser is around. That's a

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very tough thing to put in that area. It's the

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prequel whitest because it's like, this is something that should

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not be here, but it's here, So what do you

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do with it? You know, he's gotta you know, you

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gotta maybe fake kill him off. He has to get

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locked up again. No, Harry gives him some speech about hey,

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Dexter's a good guy, he can be normal. I've given

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him a good life and leave us alone. And then

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they do this weird thing where Brian, like again just

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fucking has Harry's number every time and gets the cuff

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from him, beats Harry up, knocks him out. Harry's such

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a bit when it comes to Brian, like it's his bride,

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isn't that right?

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Speaker 1: Brother? I was expected to honestly slap him again the roof,

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like I just I thought he was just gonna beat

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him and take his lunch money.

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Speaker 2: So then they have this conversation where to me does

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not fit at all. Brian just wants to see his brother,

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but Harry makes the point that hey, he's had a

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normal life, leave him alone. He knocks Hary out, uses

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his own blood to spout, you're right. So there's there's

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there's two things here, because I guarantee you some of

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the comments is gonna say this, but I don't think

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it tracks is or on discord whatever. During our discord,

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they're probably gonna say, hey, Brian's gonna keep following them

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and he's gonna see decks or kill someone, and that's

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when he's gonna realize, oh, he is like me. But

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to me, that just doesn't track with even this prequel.

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But the beginning where it's just like he just wants

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to get his brother. It's not even that it's a killer,

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just like he wants to see his brother. They heavily

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established that like he loves his brother, he's trying to

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he's being a good kid. If hey, mom's busy, you

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can't see her, she's just all chopped up. Like so,

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I just didn't buy that. And then it's also like

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if this Brian does go, you know what, Harry's right,

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I'm fucked up. He's not gonna leave him alone. The

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very next day they're dancing, he just there through the window.

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I make it so ob He's just like, so, what

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are we doing here? It's just it. That's the problem

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where they can't do anything with this character. He can't

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interact with deb They even fucking made him interact with Dexter,

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which is just like is that scene in the show

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or were they showing that that's something to happened off camera?

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Speaker 1: For what scene?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I was because he talked to Dexter. Remember they

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showed us that scene where he's like, oh was that

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off camera? Did that happened in that episode?

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Speaker 1: I don't really never saw his face, because I guarantee

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we would have discussed that when we when we saw it.

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I remember him saying that, but like, I don't remember

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every face, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: That I'm that is not as egregious as like where

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the thing? Look? Where having the name everything? Like why

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does she remember? That's fine, I don't expect Dexter remember

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this guy who he saw eleven years ago for fifteen seconds.

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That's fine, but it's like that's my worry of like

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if they're already like dipping their toes and like, oh,

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he's talking like how much more you brought? The Deborah

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thing like I don't think he all kidnapped Deborah, but

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it isn't the same thing of like what's he gonna

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do there? So I think it's just it's it's very messy.

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I think it's a cool thing to maybe add, but

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the problem is you can't you're in a box. You

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can't do anything with this character really, and then the

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content that's on screen is not fun to watch. So

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all around, it's just kind of a shit sandwich Brian

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mos which sucks is he's one of my favorite TV characters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely doesn't help the fact that the show

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is situated eleven years before the event actually happens, Like

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is he just watching him at restaurants for eleven years?

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And Dexter is so clueless that he never notices that

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this guy is just always around. I feel like at

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some point, like he keeps running into him, he's gonna

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he's gonna question it, especially for that long. So yeah,

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it's big shit champ shit sandwich. When it comes to

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Brian Moser here, I had to look it up. The

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closet kid, he doesn't get back to the kid, the

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mom like opens up the closet and he storms out

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and just bites her in the arm. I Okay, of

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course the lady's like reaction face is just hilarious. But

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all of those flashback sequences of the little evil Brian

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Moser chucky child, which just they're getting me, They're they're ridiculous.

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00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then also from this storyline too, we got

468
00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:12,440
like Batista's like, oh, wasn't that a serial killer? And

469
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,880
Harry's like, no, Laguiter is a fucking idiot. She got

470
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,480
it all wrong. And La Guida overhears this and it's

471
00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:20,079
like that is not some any interest in season two

472
00:21:20,079 --> 00:21:22,119
because that, to me is also like the result is

473
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,480
the Guerda has to look more into Harry more in

474
00:21:24,519 --> 00:21:28,759
the situation. And again, like I my backstory for La

475
00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:31,200
Guera and the Morgans and the show is she works

476
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,119
with them. That to me is kind of it like

477
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,880
now that they feel I feel they're gonna make her

478
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,799
have like maybe a mini feud with Harry. I'm like,

479
00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:38,880
I don't like any of It's just be like yeah,

480
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,759
I mean just didn't catch the like how did it

481
00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:43,440
not pan out? How did this chan saw murder Harry?

482
00:21:43,559 --> 00:21:46,559
Yeup didn't pan out that theory? It's like, but why not,

483
00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:49,279
Like what disproves this? There's not like I don't know,

484
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,279
it's no.

485
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,559
Speaker 1: I I hate when they tried to add some more

486
00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:58,359
like complex backstory to characters that we've already seen right

487
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,960
when it comes to and you know, you hate prequels

488
00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:03,640
for many reasons, and I feel like that is a

489
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,119
big issue with them, where if you have a character

490
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,039
that we've spent many seasons like just with them, when

491
00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:12,720
you try to like add a lot more content to

492
00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:16,039
their origin story, it just it adds some inconsistencies on

493
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,039
Like now, if I watch the original show, it's like,

494
00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:21,920
why didn't she have more hatred towards this character? You know,

495
00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:25,200
like if especially the way that that scene played out

496
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,319
where she's just like eavesdropping on him basically saying that

497
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,119
you know, she's an idiot. I'm just playing into it,

498
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,640
you know, I'm I'm just entertaining the idea. Just keep

499
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,480
her busy. Like, I just hated that whole sequence, and

500
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,160
I really hated the fact that she was like getting

501
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,000
sketched out by you know him, hide and files and

502
00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:43,759
all of this just revolves around the way that they're

503
00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:48,400
doing Harry here, and I'm just I was very neutral

504
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,920
on him, I think early on, and he's just been

505
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,480
one character that I just really really hated. And part

506
00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:55,480
of that, I think is the fact that it's Christian Slater.

507
00:22:55,759 --> 00:22:58,279
I don't know, I don't want to judge him here,

508
00:22:58,279 --> 00:23:00,640
but I feel like this is my only real media

509
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,279
thing that I can judge him with. So yeah, I

510
00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:03,880
know he's bad.

511
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: He's just miscast. I think that's where he is. I

512
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,279
think it's for me, that's where it is. But that's

513
00:23:08,319 --> 00:23:11,799
where to transition into. So they actually know. We can't

514
00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:13,319
talk about that yet because we got talk we got

515
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,799
talk about Pactor Dempsey first and the resolution there.

516
00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: Yes, Prince U what's his name, doctor, doctor McDreamy, dreamy.

517
00:23:22,279 --> 00:23:25,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I swear, I'm telling you you need this tough.

518
00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:28,119
I don't need you to watch Gray's anatomy. But I

519
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,559
do think he can be a great actor. I think

520
00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:33,359
he's very underrated. It's very odd that he was just

521
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,880
in a movie last year where he was a villain character.

522
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,799
And I'm not gonna say it's like anything amazing Gold

523
00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:39,119
and Geeks, but it's like, oh, this is a good

524
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,319
villain character. What's happening in this show, especially in this episode.

525
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,160
My man's just having fun because I was dying last

526
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,400
I watched this because we did Captain America. We did

527
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,240
Captain America and I had to edit that some up,

528
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,920
so I see it's like, okay, Dexter's lives. I was just

529
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,200
gonna watch it, right, So I'm watching and there's a

530
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,119
few things of like so we talk about kind of

531
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,480
very risk he dumb plan, but whatever Dexter plan completely

532
00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:04,839
works where he because that's why I thought it would

533
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,559
be kind of somewhat fun as oh, early Dexter has

534
00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:09,160
this great plan and it doesn't work, but no, he

535
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,359
leads him right to Nicki and Dexter saves Nikki. We'll

536
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,960
get there. But it's like, so Dexter's plan completely was

537
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,119
and then even his backup plan works out, but so

538
00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:21,400
Dexter falls NICKI falls, you know the call, what's his

539
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,599
characters at Spencer, Spencer, thank you, Spencer to the hideout

540
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,200
big like villain, Like, I don't know where this thing is.

541
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: He's a Russian fucking cargo take Peer two.

542
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,599
Speaker 2: This is where vest Ballid died in Casino run like

543
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:41,319
it's connect to that same bank. It's just crazy like

544
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:48,640
this this salary plays. Yeah, so he goes there and

545
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,119
I guess he's just gonna kill the kid. We do

546
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,319
get this nugget wish to me, it makes no sense.

547
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,000
Where Dexter confronts him and he tries like talking down

548
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,720
like I understand being a monster, and he's like there's

549
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,119
I Like, he's like there's ways of channel it, like

550
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,079
this guy's already killing kids, Like what are you gonna do?

551
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,000
You guys gonna team up, like.

552
00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: Gonna be apprentice?

553
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you already cut his finger off. He's run around naked.

554
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,119
But there was a funny scene where he gets there

555
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,160
and there's just like a kitchen and pots and pants.

556
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,559
He's like, I don't even know what Dexter's doing. He

557
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,519
takes a paceful that he's hitting off. Oh Spencer, Yeah,

558
00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:23,960
Oh you thought you thought I could get away and

559
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,799
leave me. It's like, what's going on here? Don't you

560
00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:28,319
want the element of surprise? Like, what the fuck is

561
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,440
going on? They have this conversation they literally like Patrick

562
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,880
Dempsley literally does the like what type of moss you're

563
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,440
gonna be? You're gonna you're gonna say the kid or

564
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,400
get me. It's literally just bad. It's Green Goblin, the Riddler.

565
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: I was thinking of The Riddler when he has when

566
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,440
he has Robin and the female level Kim. Yeah, yeah,

567
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:51,480
literally I thought that was the scene I was thinking of.

568
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:53,400
It's like you will have to choose Batman.

569
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,319
Speaker 2: It is a comic book nineteen sixties trope, like this

570
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,119
is what we're doing with this show, Like there's no

571
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:03,559
finesse know nothing, and then he uh yeah, Patrick Tims.

572
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,839
They have like a mini fight, which which is all right. Again,

573
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,640
I don't know if I need dexter having this amount

574
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,240
of hand to hand combat right now, but that is

575
00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:12,279
something the show they do like the original show. They

576
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,319
say that he's very well trained. He took Nix's martial arts.

577
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,920
He has like so like because he beats up doakes

578
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,279
and doaks, like why is the lab heat like has

579
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:22,240
like a black belt in this like they've establed, they

580
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:24,519
have established in past can that he has trained. I

581
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:27,519
just didn't know if I need Like he hits him

582
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:29,400
with like a broom and Patrick Deimsy hits him with

583
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,839
the fire stinger. It got very like Batman sixty six.

584
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,880
But then yeah, he decides to save Nikki because he

585
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:37,720
just decides to, Like I don't even know where Patrick

586
00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:39,839
Dempsy is in the rooms. We've seen them all in

587
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,359
these episodes. It's like a room and Patrick Timsey opened

588
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,359
the window. Now there's like ten feet up above them,

589
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,000
and there's like a lever that releases water. And that's

590
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:51,880
what he does to his son. And oh, sorry, we

591
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,640
went off the track. He reveals that. I guess another

592
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,480
reason is that this is not his biological kid. But

593
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:02,599
thats zero sense to me because I thought they're blood

594
00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:06,359
matched on the box, Yes you are, So what am

595
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:06,839
I missing?

596
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: Correct I inconsistencies in the writing, I guess. Or he's just.

597
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna kill your son and he's like, fuck,

598
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,519
he is my son or something like that, and then

599
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:17,920
he says again later to the wife, right, Patrick Dempsy says, like,

600
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,720
how could you tell me it was my son? But

601
00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:22,720
like that was how Dexter caught him. Is Nikki's blood

602
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,839
matched the assaulter's blood?

603
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: What are we doing I guess to play Devil's advocate.

604
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,160
Maybe he it is his son, but he's just so

605
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,400
twisted in the mind that he's just like I guess,

606
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,599
he's just formulating this this narrative that like it isn't

607
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:37,759
and that's why he's just snapping and going this crazy,

608
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,279
because you have to be crazy, you know, to just

609
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,160
murder your own son if you think that your wife

610
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,119
is chiefing with someone else or whatever the hell it

611
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,880
might be. So maybe they're playing that way, but they

612
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,920
didn't play that way at all. And the main issue

613
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,680
for me with that on why he is just so crazy.

614
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,000
I love the performance because it's just so entertaining. I

615
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:56,799
was tuning it up. I was laughing at my screen

616
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,200
so hard it was. It was crazy, and the dialogue

617
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,000
was just amazing. You know, we'll get there. Your name

618
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:05,160
was fantastic. But it's just I think the inconsistencies for

619
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,480
like how normal he was throughout the entire show, Like

620
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,599
there was no any glimpses of these of like him

621
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,279
like slipping or revealing something like this, where now it

622
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,599
just it you know, Captain America. It's like mind control,

623
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:19,920
like like he's just some code words went off and

624
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,720
I was just a completely different character and I I

625
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:25,319
just don't like that aspect to it. But then there's

626
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,640
the goofiness of it. And man, I honestly, when he

627
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,000
like chooses to save the kid, I'm like, man, this

628
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:32,640
is gonna be like a big thing, like he's probably

629
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,480
gonna escape, go into season two or something, you know,

630
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,559
like like like like this is not the end for

631
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:39,599
this character. This is gonna be a big thing that

632
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,599
Dexter didn't chase him because he's not gonna be able

633
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:43,279
to get him. Maybe this guy is gonna be able

634
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:46,240
to reveal something about Dexter. No, he just fucking shows

635
00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:47,680
up at the wife's house.

636
00:28:48,200 --> 00:29:16,759
Speaker 2: Oh no, none more time for this money. I think,

637
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,160
as Spinal Tap says, that's a destination of the bays

638
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,599
going on eleven or the half whatever, eleven out of ten.

639
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: You know what, honey, who is the.

640
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:38,319
Speaker 2: When that happened? I'm up it's close to one. I

641
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:41,559
am and my god, because again, like this man's dead

642
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,440
to rights. He should be leaving the country's stat like yeah,

643
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,119
he like even if Dexter doesn't say the kid. He

644
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,559
knows it's him, He's gonna tell the cops, so he's

645
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:52,920
gonna go and kill the wife one again. This comes

646
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,880
back to many weeks where we said why is he

647
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,079
not canna the wife? Why why did they have the

648
00:29:57,079 --> 00:29:58,640
scene where he's like hugging the wife that we're gonna

649
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,920
I'm gonna find our something like why didn't he kidnapp

650
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,640
them both? Why is he doing this stuff? We never

651
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,000
really wound to answer of why he kidnapped the judge's

652
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,519
son at all? Why did that kid need to die

653
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:09,359
at all? I don't understand it. Yeah, it makes no

654
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,519
sense that I was just trying to be you think

655
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:12,759
of Red Herring for the show. I get because like

656
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,960
it is trying to make it. I don't like even

657
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,680
a couple of weeks ago with the whole like cartail thing,

658
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:19,240
like I guess to take them out, but it's just

659
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,440
like it's very convoluted. And yeah, when she's watching the

660
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,079
news and the new husband's like, oh what you do,

661
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:27,039
and like, may let's say somethingbout Nikki. All right, well

662
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:28,599
I'm going to bed. So he's a piece of shit guy.

663
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:32,480
He comes flying down the stairs and if you are listening,

664
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:35,720
didn't watch the show. And then Patrick Dempsey comes downstairs.

665
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:38,559
He turns the corner and like that clip, I'm gonna

666
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,480
fucking kill you, and he is that for the next

667
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,160
three minutes. In that scene, he is wired. If you

668
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,880
would have told me, hey, Jack Nichols Gensey took a

669
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,240
little bump before that scene, I'd be like one hundred

670
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,319
percent because he is fucking he is going for Yeah,

671
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:56,599
he's genus in the shining, but like that when he

672
00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,680
just kill he's like fromhi to be like ta the

673
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,279
whole season like calm to like now he's just lost

674
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:08,160
it and he just didn't feel warranted. So it was amazing.

675
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,559
I don't think that will ever come up again. But

676
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:12,359
I'm I can't delete that clip because that's gonna just

677
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,960
make me happy. It's I could not believe what I

678
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,480
was watching. I was just laughing, having a good time.

679
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:22,559
And then lo and behold Dexter who saved Nikki. Call

680
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,200
the police, Well, no, he shot a bunch of flares. Uh,

681
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:28,079
he's there. He manages to syringe him, get him out

682
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:30,680
of the house without anybody, the wife, the ex husband,

683
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,359
anyone seeing. And it's even Dexter, how cocky the writing

684
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,319
of the show. He starts pulling him. There's some on

685
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:38,519
the TV. Dexter stops to watch the TV like ohh

686
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:40,599
and then goes back to pulling. He's like, there's no

687
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,799
like like anticipate or not. There's no agency here. There's

688
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,799
like Dexter's in a house with people that are even

689
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,160
the woman who's conscious right now they can see me.

690
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,720
I gotta fucking go. It's just like, oh, just another

691
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:54,559
day being Dexter. So it's like Dexter was already in

692
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,480
like god tier mode here and it was like I said,

693
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,480
it was fun because it was funny but not fun

694
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,279
to watch his uh like wanting it to be good quality.

695
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:05,960
But that that moment him chase down the wife, fuck man,

696
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,920
that would that's the TV Emperor Drogue moment right there,

697
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:10,720
Like that was crazy.

698
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:17,599
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I feel like this Dexter doing those moments. It's

699
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,680
like the showrunners just they really are leaning into the

700
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,119
plot armor of what this is, of like this being

701
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,279
a prequel, and it's like, no matter what happens, Dexter's

702
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:28,400
gonna make it through because that's what it's gonna happen.

703
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,480
So it doesn't matter if he has an Ak forty

704
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:33,240
seven and blowing up the whole fucking neighborhood like like

705
00:32:33,559 --> 00:32:35,799
he's gonna get away, Fine, no one's gonna know who

706
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,720
he is. And like I I hated that when was

707
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:42,960
it mad Dog? Is that who that character was? When

708
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:45,920
uh dex when he ran out in the streets and

709
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:48,160
then he got hit by the car that's how he died.

710
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Like that character when Dexter is running through the street

711
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,480
like just that.

712
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,039
Speaker 2: Even the guy who like went to like shoot like

713
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:56,519
he Dexter another one he one to.

714
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like neo and the main he just dodging

715
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,720
bullets like he's literally as a force field around him.

716
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,920
That's so much plot armor he has, and it's just

717
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,240
super egregious throughout the whole season. I feel like they're

718
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:12,240
not even trying to like explain it in like a

719
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:14,519
clever way on how he gets away with these Why

720
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,440
there's like no one in the neighborhood that would see this,

721
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,240
that aren't hearing Patrick Dempsey just screaming I'm a fucking girl,

722
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,680
yeah at the nine o'clock news. So, yeah, that's been

723
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,200
really frustrating for me. I already kind of said, like

724
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,559
the inconsistency inconsistency, Oh my gosh, inconsistencies of the of uh,

725
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:38,839
just throughout the whole season. We're already talked about Patrick

726
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Dempsey and how he's just been very tactful early on,

727
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:43,440
and here he is at the end Jack Nicholson's style,

728
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,880
the Geo storyline that seemed like it was gonna be

729
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,119
going somewhere and then it didn't, and then what else?

730
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,160
What else? The Judge's son exactly, Like it feels like

731
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,319
something was rewritten, like throughout this whole season, and they're like, oh,

732
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,960
that's just not follow these stories.

733
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,079
Speaker 2: Like Brave New World, Yeah, what's happening?

734
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

735
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: And I guess, like I'm trying to track, So did

736
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,159
he take the judge his son to? Like I don't

737
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:11,400
even know, because.

738
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,199
Speaker 1: Like it makes no sense how he framed them.

739
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: Couldn't he just frame them with kidnapping just his son,

740
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,400
you know? And like did he want to tail the car? Tell? Like,

741
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,559
I have no idea what's between this between like I said,

742
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:26,440
his and like you said, maybe he's just he went crazy.

743
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,920
But there's so much I feel like they're trying. They

744
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,239
were trying to just do some wild twists to throw

745
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,599
you off. But then when you're at the end of it.

746
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,559
It just does not feel make sense, and maybe somebody

747
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,039
there can break it down. If someone's listening, please tell

748
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:42,840
me why he did the Judge's son specifically, because I thought, okay,

749
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,239
if you're trying to get away with it, and I

750
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,880
guess someone could say that was the pitch, right, that

751
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,760
he is trying to get away with in Dexter's The

752
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,199
Thorn Inside, But to me, it didn't seem like that

753
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,440
when it's really like he's not my son, like it

754
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,800
felt way more. It felt like a lot more work

755
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,519
than he should, Like he could just can nick I

756
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:00,679
don't know, kill but like no one found him, right

757
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,079
Dexter's when that found Nicky because this whole blood box thing,

758
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:05,280
Patrick Gamsony probably would have been better off just to

759
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,840
get Nikki and shoot him day one and he would

760
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,320
have got away with it because like he's keeping alive

761
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,480
for some weird rich or so I don't know, and

762
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:16,840
like why even then, like if he kills the other kid,

763
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,760
why does he do that?

764
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, I get it, I cut you off.

765
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: No, I just thought it was weird that I was

766
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,800
wondering how they're gonna end it, and he just plastered

767
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,239
wrapped him and get on the boat, which I guess

768
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,159
them was funny, like oh I'm here again. But uh,

769
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,239
that was almost anti climatic for me too, because once

770
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,239
you do the plastic wrap one, it's like, what are

771
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,039
we gonna do for like the fall up, Well, we'll

772
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:40,400
just wrap him plastic and it's like, okay, that's it,

773
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,679
like like nothing, and I say the boat that's very risky.

774
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,639
He's all about non risk, like I don't.

775
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: Know the boat that he's borrowing from that lady, you know,

776
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,320
like just covered blood and all the credits, Like there's

777
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,199
no way he got all the crevices, you know, like

778
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,599
there's no plastic wrap covering any of the blood and

779
00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:57,960
it got all over everything.

780
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: But poor fucking what's her name? That like it's gonna

781
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,000
go to prison when they like to call they go

782
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,960
when they tracked down who killed Captain Spencer and Caill's

783
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,639
bull just coppered in his blood.

784
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: But man like especially that they're setting up that, uh,

785
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,960
Patrick Dempsey believes that this isn't his son, so he

786
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,679
fucking like he would fucking hate the child. I would imagine,

787
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,599
right if he if he hates the wife to this extent,

788
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,400
and then they go through the effort of like when

789
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,079
he's chopping off his finger and giving him the lunchibules

790
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:30,679
and like taking his jersey off him. He's like, don't worry,

791
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,639
it's not your like. It feels like a genuine like

792
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,639
type of like you did nothing wrong there.

793
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: Resist cut remember, Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right.

794
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,679
Speaker 1: But then here he is, he's ready to fucking kill

795
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,559
you and drowned the boy. I don't know. It's just

796
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:48,199
so inconsistent with what they're trying to portray the character,

797
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,280
and uh yeah, it's it's frustrating to watch, but also entertaining.

798
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,719
So I did enjoy because if you're gonna be goofy like,

799
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,760
you might as well go to balls to the walls,

800
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:11,760
like go full fucking guy. Just yeah, all right, we'll

801
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,880
take our next outbreak here and we'll be right back.

802
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,239
All right, we're back.

803
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:18,679
Speaker 2: I gotta I'll probably what I'll do is I'll cut.

804
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:20,519
When I keep that clip with that, I'll cut it

805
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:22,880
and I'll just have the Dempsey I'll fucking kill your

806
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,039
part to some reactions because it's a it is a

807
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:27,079
long clip, but man, it's the tumbles.

808
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,079
Speaker 1: I'm glad you got it. In there though, because it's

809
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:31,920
so funny that he like he like snuck into the

810
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:34,679
upstairs and then waited for the husband to get up

811
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:36,480
there to kick him down, just spart and kick him

812
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:39,159
down the stairs, and then that's how he starts the attack.

813
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:40,920
He doesn't just come in through the door or something.

814
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: I guess maybe my thought is he was hoping there sleeping,

815
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,280
so he's gonna come in there and then kill them

816
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,880
and then leave. But yeah, I don't I don't know

817
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,679
them too. Oh yeah, why is he not just shooting

818
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:54,519
through the door when he's like like with his like

819
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:56,679
Jack Nicholson only had was an axe. So it's like, well,

820
00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:58,519
I gotta cut down this door, Like, why is he

821
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:01,000
not like I believe Patrick jam would just put his

822
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:03,239
gun against the door and just start rapid firing. You know,

823
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:05,920
I need what I need called duty. I know you're

824
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,159
not gonna do this, but call duty. Need to do

825
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:10,719
a Dexter season you get down in there. Great, do

826
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,320
you get Dexter in there? But I need Captain Spencer

827
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,800
with that amode, I'll fucking kill you. Like I will

828
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,599
pay a full price game if I can have Spencer. Yeah,

829
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,039
oh no, no, I'll pay I'll pay a full game

830
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:28,039
price just to get Spencer and as long as it

831
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:29,679
carries over, you gonna make you that promise. But if

832
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,920
I can, for the rest of my Warzone career, every

833
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,639
time I gotta kill here, Patrick Jamsony, I'll fucking kill

834
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:39,400
you tense skin. That would be the promp thing. But yeah,

835
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:46,840
ripe to Captain Spacey, you will You'll be missed or Spencer. Sorry. Yeah,

836
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,079
and just because I'll forget about her. Shut Sarah Michelle Geller,

837
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:52,079
who really didn't do much at all in the show,

838
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:53,760
thought it was gonna be much more important. I thought

839
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,039
she was gonna be a victim. It's odd because, like,

840
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:58,360
you know, maybe just want to work, but I just

841
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,960
feel like Sarah Michelle Geller is at least my er.

842
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,400
It's different because I guess I grew up with a

843
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,480
Buffy a lot of other movies and everything, but just

844
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,159
feels like Patrick Dempsey. This feels like that feels like

845
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:11,000
a roll for a start. Take out the writing and

846
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,719
the character, some of the overacting. It's like that feels like, Okay,

847
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,599
you'd get like a star actor for the Big Bat, right,

848
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:17,920
because that's your villain. That makes sense. Graz now he's

849
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,719
been a bunch of movies. To me, you cast him

850
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,920
and what he was used for that feels appropriate, Sarah

851
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,039
Michelle Gellar just feels kind of like an afterthought in

852
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,239
this show. And I guess she's just is a part

853
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,960
of the crew, which was kind of odd for me.

854
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:30,679
So I don't know, if there's a season two, if

855
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:34,119
that gets a bigger relationship, I don't know. I said,

856
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:36,639
if she does get kill eventu, but it just just

857
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,079
didn't feel like a big deal. And even like, you know,

858
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,800
Masuka had one thing in here, Batista came back, but yeah,

859
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,960
I was surprised by just the lack of her, to

860
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,559
be honest.

861
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:48,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I love the scenes that we had

862
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:51,760
with her. It was definitely making me just want more conclusions.

863
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,480
So hopefully we get that season two And she said.

864
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: It you're in the hopefully card.

865
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just by my reactions in the last couple

866
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:04,239
episodes because Shae wasn't with me for every episode. She

867
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,719
wasn't with me when I was loving it, you know,

868
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,360
in the early portions, just in these last couple of weeks,

869
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,119
just like, yeah, like you happy this is over. He

870
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,079
really hated the show, and I'm like honestly no, Like

871
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,239
I do want to see Patrick Gibson again. I think

872
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,320
he deserves another season. I think he was really really

873
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,239
good in this, just the fact that he was able

874
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,840
to like really capture the just Goofball Dexter when he's

875
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,880
like just being like a normal person, I guess, interacting

876
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,280
with everyone like he's got that Miami Metro badge. He

877
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,519
was doing the spins in the chair like I'm like, man,

878
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:36,239
like he's he's home here. Like I do like seeing

879
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,639
this aspect of the character and with where we are

880
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,800
with our Michael C. Hall, Like we're never gonna get

881
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,920
that again of him, like working in the lab because

882
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,840
you know, the bunny he's out of the hat, like

883
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,119
he's too late for him. Yeah, it's too late for him.

884
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:51,960
So I do want more of that. I want more

885
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,719
dev I want more Batista, like all of our other characters,

886
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,960
I am really enjoying. It's just a lot of the

887
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,119
I think a lab stuff they were doing with with Harry,

888
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,880
who not really a fan here. I I guess I'm

889
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,320
not surprised that we didn't get him like dying here.

890
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: I kind of but like yah, And see that's where

891
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,239
we can circle back to where we started with the

892
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,960
whole Patrick Dempsey thing because I didn't want to talk

893
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,039
about ntil we did this. So he gets beat up

894
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:23,960
by brian right, he gets how brothers lapped, He's concussed,

895
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:26,400
he's bleeding, shows up with the hospital no like and

896
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,800
same thing like LaGuerta, I guess I should set up

897
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,840
that they are going to the dexter. Uh what are

898
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,960
they called social worker, right or Brian's social worker murder?

899
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,159
You know, I didn't mean to separate you. I'm gonna

900
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:41,480
separate you that thing right, chance on the roof. So

901
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:43,119
we get that whole scene of Harry and brian Na.

902
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,320
But during this Laguera is looking for Harry actively, right,

903
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:49,519
They're like, hey, we want to bound some theories off him.

904
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:52,039
You like, where is Harry, where's the tectamor you had?

905
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,880
I would assume she never found him because he got

906
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,840
knocked out, and then he went to the hospital because

907
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,239
I think he was checking on deb that he was

908
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:00,960
maybe worried that he was gonna go there or something.

909
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:03,480
He walked to the hospital. He's bleeding, like, but he's

910
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,239
actually nonchalant in the nonchalant but like blood is dripping

911
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,760
down his head and no one's like, sir, you okay,

912
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,960
worst nurses and doctors ever around. You're not helping mister Morgan.

913
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,719
But anyway, so he gets checked out or they just

914
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,760
who cares. Mike is all right whatever his friend is.

915
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,599
But we skipped to the next day where because Harry

916
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:25,599
doesn't know what's going on with Dexter, right, and then

917
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:27,920
he learns like all the news, oh the number one

918
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,760
suspect is Captain Spencer and uh the boy was found

919
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,480
and the boy said he was saved by someone. And

920
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,239
here's like you did all that. He's like, yeah, I

921
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,119
did it, and it would be only because of you

922
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:42,559
because the code. Two things One, I was very disappointed

923
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:45,400
that the last time we had Dexter come and say like, hey,

924
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,159
I think Captain Spencer's a fucking killer like me. We

925
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:50,840
should do something. Harry's just like, you are fucking crazy.

926
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,159
They never had another conversation about it till then we

927
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,559
didn't get a scene of Harry like looking at Spencer

928
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:57,440
and differently, to me, that's a huge dramatic point. That

929
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,679
was its boss. It's one of Harry, I'd say in

930
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,239
this show, best friend, and I think Harry barely reacted

931
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,400
to getting this confirmed that Spencer was a child murderer,

932
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,239
like he just felt like a It'd be different if

933
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,280
there's just like a just on a work there, right

934
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,159
like Batista. Fine, but this is like they're having drinks together,

935
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:19,159
they're going to the bar after work, they are friends

936
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:21,480
outside of work. Felt like a no chalanp thing. And

937
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:23,599
for me again, so if you're not seeing the original

938
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:27,280
series of Dexter Myersports, but the setup is Harry eventually

939
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,719
finds Dexter killing a guy. It's a criminal whatever, all

940
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,280
by the code, but he finds him, he sees them,

941
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,280
he throws up, and then Harry commits suicide because he

942
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,320
decides like, man, I really fucked up here. But to me,

943
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:43,079
this revelation of like Dexter, like I said, being full

944
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:46,159
batman saving a life, saving a kid, to me, that

945
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:48,800
would make even if Harry saw him chopping a guy up,

946
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,039
would put the perspective of kid, this is gross, and

947
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:54,039
maybe he would be like sort of like you have

948
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:56,039
the code, but Dexter, I can't see you anymore, like

949
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:59,320
you're to me your monster, Like I can't process seeing you.

950
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,639
But like he's still is deb around and he sells

951
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:04,320
his life. So to me, how happy and how proud

952
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,039
Harry was of him here does not compute me later

953
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:09,039
on that he sees him killing Guy's like, I'm gonna

954
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:12,159
end my fucking life. Dexter's complete monster. Especially Dexter Here's

955
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:15,039
like to me, very like emotional. Yeah, I couldn't let

956
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:16,599
him get that kid. I had to say it, like

957
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,039
it feels like it's more like the most human we've

958
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:21,360
seen Dexter, which I don't enjoy because, like, to me,

959
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,719
Dexter when we meet Michael see all season one, he's

960
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,400
a fucking android. He's a robot. It takes a while

961
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,000
for him to like get some personality. So again I

962
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:32,599
just feel like Harry is this is not tracked for me,

963
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,639
that Harry is gonna feel so ashamed by Dexter that

964
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:38,679
he's gonna kill himself. I could understand, if you know,

965
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,440
he just kills Spencer and they don't make a big

966
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,920
deal about him saving the kid, and Harry doesn't think

967
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,360
about that. But now he's already processing the idea of

968
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:48,960
man my code is leaving to people's lives being saved.

969
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:52,159
But again, in ten years or like eight years time,

970
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,519
he's gonna see Harry in the Dexter in the kill Room,

971
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,039
which again I was on that review, but I fucking

972
00:44:57,159 --> 00:44:59,920
hated Harry on the table as well because Harry, I know,

973
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,199
you guys point out he's concussed, he's drug but still

974
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,440
Harry has a concept of what Dexter does to me,

975
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,400
and the original series, that's what it was. It's kind

976
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,679
of like the donuts don't tell policy back in the day, right,

977
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,960
like someone might say like, hey, you're you're a soldier,

978
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:15,199
you're gay, but as long as I don't see you

979
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,480
kissing a man, dat a man, whatever, go do what

980
00:45:17,519 --> 00:45:19,800
you want. And then the second you'd see that big

981
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,280
it would be like, how dairy? How could you that?

982
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:21,679
Speaker 1: To me?

983
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,079
Speaker 2: Was Harry, I'm gonna teach the code, but just do yourself.

984
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:26,800
You go be a serial killer. I don't want to

985
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,440
talk about discuss it. So I would buy that when

986
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,239
he sees it, it's like Harry like he can't process it.

987
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,400
But this feels like he's way too much in the weeds.

988
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:37,639
He feels like he's fully on board with Dexter the

989
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:40,320
serial killer. So for me, it just again doesn't technically

990
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,280
break any cannon, but it just doesn't match to me

991
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,519
kind of motivations wise for what happens later on, So

992
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:47,039
I know it was a lot, but it just that

993
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,320
was stuff that was hurting. The original show for me

994
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,880
was this conversation because Harry was really proud and when

995
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,639
they were dancing, the thing against like the code's yours

996
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:56,519
now and all this stuff, which is not true. It's

997
00:45:56,519 --> 00:46:00,480
always Harry's code. It together now each other. Yeah, so

998
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,199
I didn't. I didn't enjoy any of that aspect of

999
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:06,239
Harry and the Captain Spencer resolution.

1000
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, me, me neither. It seems like it

1001
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,440
should have been so much bigger for specifically because they

1002
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,440
are so close and they have been best friends for

1003
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,719
so long and I imagine like pretty much twenty ish

1004
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,119
plus years that they've like noticed from.

1005
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,639
Speaker 2: Almost Dexter's whole life, because remember the flashbacks and the

1006
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:26,679
Dexters of like a five four year old kid, and

1007
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,840
Dexter's now what in his twel so he's not.

1008
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: Almost two decades now at least at least, yes, and

1009
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:34,360
like for.

1010
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: For their friends that whole time, I assume.

1011
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: And like, was he just this crazy or is it

1012
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,840
just because his ex wife just made him this crazy?

1013
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,400
Like that that's just it, That's what he.

1014
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: Was sucking some guy, but still was his son at

1015
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,639
the end of the day.

1016
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I why not.

1017
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: Just kill him? Why not just kill the husband and

1018
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,599
the wife instead of the kid.

1019
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: You know, but I'll fucking kill you he was going

1020
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,400
to you know. Yeah, oh yes, I hated that so much.

1021
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:03,639
I almost feel like with I almost feel like with Harry,

1022
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:05,880
it'll be it would be better if they kind of

1023
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,000
change the suicide, like like it like maybe it isn't

1024
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,000
a suicide, maybe it's supposed to be done that way,

1025
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,960
or like just different circumstances, because you're completely right, it

1026
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,079
does not it's not gonna feel like it, Like it

1027
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:21,880
should make sense if if he is this close to

1028
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,199
Dexter actually doing the deeds and like kind of pretty

1029
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,599
much he was on the table, he's seen the POV

1030
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,840
of people getting stabbed, and then to where he is

1031
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,239
later on, he just walks. He just walks in sees

1032
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,400
it and that's enough for him to just, uh yeah,

1033
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,000
commend it aside. And I I can't. I can't digest

1034
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,400
that pill. So I honestly I'm hoping that they do

1035
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,239
switch it up in some way to make it seem

1036
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,840
like it's more than what meets yet, but the problem.

1037
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:51,639
Speaker 2: Is if you switch it up. That's a huge moment

1038
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,320
for Dexter because oh yeah, I know, yeah yeah. In

1039
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,679
season two, Dopes tells him this, and then in season

1040
00:47:56,679 --> 00:47:59,679
three it's all about how Dexter hates Harry and he can't,

1041
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,679
like he just feels his whole life is a lie

1042
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,360
because he like gave up on him. So that's where

1043
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,559
I like, now the original show would be hurt by

1044
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,840
this whole arc of and you know what happens is

1045
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,239
because he's so mad at Harry. He reveals to Debora

1046
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,920
like Dad wasn't perfect, he was kind of an asshole,

1047
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:18,360
and he reveals the whole cheating thing, and that leads

1048
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,199
Deborah to start looking into Brian Moser and then she

1049
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,519
makes connections. So that's like it's a complete because the

1050
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:25,679
original one to four fought things out and it's a

1051
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:28,280
complete domino effect. So to me, it would be now

1052
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,079
weird of like, oh, now, if we watch season three,

1053
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:33,639
Dexter shouldn't be mad at Harry because it didn't go

1054
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:35,960
down that way. My worry and what I really don't

1055
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,679
want them to do, but I could see them doing it,

1056
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,800
as I worry they're gonna make Brian do it. That

1057
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,920
is my That is my concern that they're gonna have

1058
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,280
Brian take it out Harry and I just I really

1059
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,239
don't want that Attican. That's a huge thing for Michael C.

1060
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,360
Hall's dexter to not find out. And even then it'd

1061
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,760
be like retroactively, like after the fact, like Brian's already dead,

1062
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,159
so it wouldn't do it like that bastard killed my

1063
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,159
Like it's it's messed up. I maybe hope that the

1064
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:05,360
show actually never gets the point where Harry kills himself,

1065
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,760
you know, because for this show, then it might not

1066
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:11,000
we don't have to worry about feeling clunky because it's

1067
00:49:11,039 --> 00:49:13,079
just it just ends and maybe go in between years

1068
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:14,639
something happened. I don't know.

1069
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, Like from my perspective, I feel like it's

1070
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,360
it's pretty much a lose lose situation where the show

1071
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,880
is already getting so so far from the normal continuity

1072
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,440
of what the original show is that like they can't

1073
00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:32,440
they can't really like meet the two roads together when

1074
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,639
it comes to the Harry stuff, so it might as

1075
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,480
well just make it way different, you know, like like

1076
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,800
don't even try to get it close because because you're

1077
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,360
not gonna it's not gonna be satisfying. You're not gonna

1078
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,920
make it digestible in the sense that we the viewers

1079
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:48,800
like believe that this is the same Harry. We already

1080
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,719
don't feel that way, especially when you have those Miami

1081
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,480
Vice seventies flashbacks with Lord Moser that you know, well, well,

1082
00:49:56,519 --> 00:49:59,320
we'll definitely be missing but yeah, I don't know, like

1083
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,039
just commit to the completely different storyline there. But what

1084
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:06,320
you said there about potentially just yeah, us not get

1085
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,880
to the point of him commit suicide. I feel like

1086
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,320
that would actually be a lot more interesting. Well, we'll

1087
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,360
have a lot more I feel like we'll have deb

1088
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,159
like basically on the Force by then with we're just

1089
00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:18,599
gonna have the three Amigos, the three Morgan's working together,

1090
00:50:18,679 --> 00:50:21,519
and it's it doesn't really make sense cont newitywise, but

1091
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:24,199
like at the same time, I'm down with it sort

1092
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:25,920
of with like the cast that we have, so like,

1093
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,280
let's just go full multiverse here and like really just

1094
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,400
have this be its own little story. And I maybe

1095
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,440
maybe we're too far gone though maybe that's something that

1096
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,760
maybe the you know, they should have had early on.

1097
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,400
But I think that's a lot of a lot tougher

1098
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,400
of a show to sell, you know, when they're when

1099
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,280
they're pitching their originals in the idea.

1100
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure what the because I just

1101
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:50,000
rewashed and I can't, like, I know, deb reveals that

1102
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:52,920
she like she reveals that she did tell Harry she

1103
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:54,519
was gonna be a cop. But I don't think they

1104
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:57,239
ever talked about if and then he commits suicide.

1105
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,599
Speaker 1: It wasn't the kill room thing.

1106
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: Heart blew out. Yeah, it wasn't that's what they'll do.

1107
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:05,599
It'll just be he did kill himself, but it was

1108
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:07,719
something else that week that made him kill himself, and

1109
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,559
it just happened to be the same week that he

1110
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:11,880
saw Dexter and threw up and said stay away from me.

1111
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,920
It's like it's gonna be something he made a bad

1112
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:18,159
debt or you know, yeah, he remembered he killed his

1113
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,119
fucking other kid by being a drunk. I don't know

1114
00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:23,840
what it is, but like that, Yeah, I don't think

1115
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,480
in the show they ever clarified if Harry was still

1116
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,519
in the force when deb started being because when the

1117
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:32,920
show starts with Debra, she's like she's an undercover, like

1118
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:35,199
call girl, Like she's pretty low in the total poll.

1119
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,880
So I don't know if they'll ever get there, but

1120
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,840
I guess you got because like how like I don't

1121
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,519
know what in the nineties, how long does it take

1122
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:44,079
to be cop? To become a police officer?

1123
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: Six months?

1124
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: Interesting? You think it's six months.

1125
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: I guess, like what to have a cop though, like a detective.

1126
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,079
Speaker 2: Training runs three to six months, and then well Vancouver

1127
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:58,760
Police Department training takes forty four weeks.

1128
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: You can mean good cops.

1129
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,599
Speaker 2: That's to me at least at least two years. I

1130
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:06,679
feel like that's kind of well, there's just under a

1131
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,920
year become a cop. I know there's but still just

1132
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,760
become a cop after less than a year.

1133
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: I would imagine like there's like criminology degrees where like

1134
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,360
that's probably what you'd go with, like a detective and

1135
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,880
like that type of avenue. So but like she does

1136
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,599
also just service because she because she starts as an

1137
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:26,920
off like a like a uniformed officer.

1138
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:29,199
Speaker 2: Yeah she is, yeah, because she's undercover as a call girl,

1139
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,000
trying to catch the you know, and then it was okay,

1140
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:35,159
So to be a detective says about two to five years.

1141
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:37,440
Obviously a bunch of stuff and like key points. Remember,

1142
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:42,000
so you need police Academy training patrol. After the academy,

1143
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:43,920
do patrol duty, which you typically work as a patrol

1144
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,559
officer for period time experience requirement. Most departments require several

1145
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,360
years of patrol experience before considering for detective experience position

1146
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,559
detective exams to become detective you usually need to pass.

1147
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:56,280
So that's where it's two to five. So that's where

1148
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,639
I guess, like the two to five is questionable because

1149
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:00,480
like if someone's like just a fuck and I guess

1150
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,119
great Porolofs or whatever, they're just like or patrol, they're

1151
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:05,840
just like nabbing all the bad They're like fucking Patrick

1152
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,159
Dempsey on the streets. They can go up high and stuff.

1153
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:11,119
So that's where Yeah, so I guess there could be

1154
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:13,599
a chance that she gets on the first spot. I

1155
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:16,840
would prefer that, even if he's alive, for him to

1156
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,159
be retired while she's there. I don't know if like she's.

1157
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: Got the NISM thing though, right, that could fast track

1158
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:24,519
her career. Just the fact that she's a Morgan, you.

1159
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, they could. And then La Guarda still hates

1160
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,320
her and stuff, even though in the show she doesn't

1161
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,440
hate her for that. But look where it is after Harry.

1162
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:33,599
Speaker 1: Now, so I'm gonna take this down on your on

1163
00:53:33,639 --> 00:53:34,119
your daughter.

1164
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's it for me. I'll check my notes.

1165
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,480
I know I had some notes, but I think i've.

1166
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: Hear I liked the scene. I pretty much liked every

1167
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,519
scene that deb was in this whole show, but the scene.

1168
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 2: I only had one note for this shot.

1169
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,039
Speaker 1: That's the only note that you need.

1170
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 2: Really.

1171
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: I like the scene between deb and uh Bob was

1172
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,199
that his name? The guy that got shot like her

1173
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,119
godfather m.

1174
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,559
Speaker 2: I thought it was Mike, but I think you're right,

1175
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:05,360
that's probably Bob. But yeah, it was good. Yeah, Like

1176
00:54:05,519 --> 00:54:06,360
I like the scene.

1177
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: She's just she's just so good at this character. I

1178
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,639
really like that actress portrayals.

1179
00:54:11,679 --> 00:54:13,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like that they kind of like dovetail

1180
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:16,079
the thing of their friend, you know, just like, oh,

1181
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,880
like guys, guys should have given been on your side

1182
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:19,480
a bit more in it.

1183
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: DA.

1184
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 2: Like that's a character that like, I don't love, but

1185
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,159
I also didn't hate. I liked the actress enough too,

1186
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,559
so like if you were to pop up and seas

1187
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:29,920
it like, because here's the thing like Deborah just being

1188
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,599
on the police force like academy, Like let's say, go

1189
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:34,079
to season two, we get it and there's like no

1190
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:36,519
time jump if it's just like deb training become a cop,

1191
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,199
other than like, oh there's some asshole women that hate

1192
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,599
her or bully her or whatever, like there's nothing too

1193
00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:45,320
fun and juicy to do with dead that if she's

1194
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,239
training to be a cop, right, where at least her

1195
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,480
going out parting with her friend, like you can get

1196
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,920
into some situations. Maybe you bring Gill back that way

1197
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:54,159
or something. Maybe it's like her first case or something.

1198
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:56,239
Maybe do something like that. I don't know, but that's

1199
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,840
where I think it's it's good at least I'm not

1200
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,199
saying I don't need a whole season and then go

1201
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:01,360
on road trip, but like an episode two, hey, I'm

1202
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,320
going out with this person and something happens, right, or

1203
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,639
maybe because Deborah is a cop, maybe they do their

1204
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,000
verse where her friend's dating somebody that she thinks is

1205
00:55:08,039 --> 00:55:10,599
shady and that's some tension there, which also could end

1206
00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:12,719
up being lame. But it's just I'm happy that she's

1207
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,599
like around for something else, because you know, Dexter's gonna

1208
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:20,039
keep killing people, so that's Dexter Harry's gonna have some feud.

1209
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:22,559
Will look where now. So I don't want that, but

1210
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:24,360
that's what Harry is doing, like I said, as right now,

1211
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,119
the trajector would just be we're gonna fall Deborah into

1212
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:30,360
like police academy, which is like, like I said, not

1213
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,760
a pitch, Like, that's nothing against me juicing right now.

1214
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,440
So I need need to to have some more stuff

1215
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:34,880
going on.

1216
00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:39,679
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's fair. I Uh. One last thing for me,

1217
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:47,239
I hated the I guess adolescent teen sort of Brian

1218
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,159
Moser like when he's in like the hospital asking for

1219
00:55:50,159 --> 00:55:52,039
more pills and they give him the you know, the

1220
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:53,000
good old Dexter hair.

1221
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: I fucking need him, man.

1222
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was the same energy basically as

1223
00:55:57,519 --> 00:56:01,079
kind of a spencer. It's just such a ball man.

1224
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:03,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't enjoy that.

1225
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:06,159
Speaker 1: Yeah cool. Uh do you want to give your final

1226
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,000
number rating?

1227
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,039
Speaker 2: Oh listen, this is a This is a tough rating

1228
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:12,480
for me.

1229
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna pass it or fail it. I guess that's

1230
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,159
the first.

1231
00:56:18,199 --> 00:56:20,599
Speaker 2: That's even tough for me too, Like it's it's an

1232
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:23,679
episode by episode, but for me, I have to I

1233
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,840
gotta fail it for And there's two scores here. The

1234
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:32,119
segregated show by itself to me is like a six

1235
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,760
six point five fine enough, had some episodes that's some

1236
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,119
really bad plots and episodes that brought it down. So

1237
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:39,360
that's where it is. But as a show in the

1238
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,400
you know, in the Dexter family tree, as someone that's

1239
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,320
a diehard Dexter fan, that's where I have to fail

1240
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,280
because to me, it's just when we start getting to

1241
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,159
and I definite agree with you guys and say, Okay,

1242
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,760
is it a big deal that Dexter, like Harry's gonna

1243
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,760
the Harry when he kills himself. Seen, is it a

1244
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,880
big deal that Dexter's gonna have short hair? No? Whatever, Right,

1245
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,920
it's just the hair. Now for me, this show started

1246
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,039
to do more stuff that, you know, the Brian stuff,

1247
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:06,800
some of Harry's motivations, like even the stuff with Dexter

1248
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,920
in this where it's like this feels too grandiose form.

1249
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:10,840
It started to do that where it's like I wish

1250
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,960
it was more just like the little connuity stuff that

1251
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,199
I issue it. This is more just it's impacting how

1252
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,280
characters would act. To me, it's like I said, it's

1253
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,920
no longer they would be on the same trajectory. It's

1254
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,079
like a Marvel multiverse. It'd be like, now they should

1255
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,239
pivot down road be So that's where I have to

1256
00:57:26,239 --> 00:57:28,679
fail because I just feel some of it's a little

1257
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,639
lazy from the writers that they just to me, it

1258
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:33,199
feels like the writers are just writing their own show.

1259
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:36,679
But that's where it's not. It's still, as far as

1260
00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:40,280
I've been told, a prequel and Michael Shole's narrating it

1261
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,880
is a prequel to Dexter season one, And that's where

1262
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,840
I think I have to fail them because I don't

1263
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,880
think they match up with what the what the job

1264
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,039
is there, with what the characters are, what the arcs,

1265
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:52,360
what the story is, and I think there's elements of

1266
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,440
like we said, the Brian stuff. Hey, if you can't

1267
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,280
pull it off, that's when there's a whole writers room

1268
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,840
with TV shows. That's why everyone should look at you

1269
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,119
and be like, you know what, this isn't working. There's

1270
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:03,480
too many holes, Like I get it, I struck here,

1271
00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:05,960
that's a cool tie or something like that. But you know,

1272
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:08,800
maybe this is just too tough for us to pull off.

1273
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:11,320
But to me, it's just like someone's in the room like,

1274
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,679
but you know, would probably do good ratings or people

1275
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,840
remember that, right, So let's just do it, and it's

1276
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,599
just so that's where I'm I'm a four out of

1277
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:20,960
ten there. I'd have to fail it on that aspect,

1278
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,440
and that would be my overall score if someone did ask, hey,

1279
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,400
if I had just pick one score, it's a four

1280
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,920
just because they had. There's some stuff, but this sh

1281
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,760
overall was a fine enough watch. Very much of a

1282
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,920
roller coaster though, of you never knew each week what

1283
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:36,239
you were what you were getting. And yeah, what I'd

1284
00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:38,800
say too, is because there's some rumors, and I don't

1285
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,239
know how much to bud, but there's some rumors that

1286
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,039
Patrick Gibson's in New York right now where they're filming Dexter.

1287
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,679
That's what I would be down for is in the

1288
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:48,559
news shows of Dexter. The next time I see Patrick Gibson,

1289
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:50,679
it's just when they do a flashback at Dexter, it's

1290
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:52,440
no longer Michael c All in a wig. It is

1291
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,360
Patrick Gibson playing with them. That's what I want. That's where,

1292
00:58:55,519 --> 00:58:58,079
more than a season two of Dexter do some story

1293
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:00,840
where in Dexter Resurrection it does tie to his past

1294
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,400
where he thinks about flashbacks again. Maybe that's how James

1295
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,119
Mars back I would love to see Patrick Gibson act

1296
00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:09,360
with James Ramar and not Christian Slater. I know James

1297
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,440
Marris gonna look like twenty years older now, but still

1298
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,800
it's like whatever, So that's where I would like to

1299
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,920
see Gibson. I do hope those rumors are true. I

1300
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,760
don't need a season two, but if it happens, I'll

1301
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,760
be here because I love Dexter. Someone was hoping, but

1302
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,800
uh again, just like Pat Patrick Dempsey stuff, There'll be

1303
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,000
some fun stuff, but that's rare am I had to fail.

1304
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,119
Speaker 1: Unfortunately fair enough. Yeah, this is uh, this is a

1305
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:33,920
tricky one for me. I haven't watched Dexter in a while.

1306
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:36,159
This show did a good job at making me want

1307
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:38,800
to like just reminded me of you know, some of

1308
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,639
the Prime Peak moments and just the the everyday Dexter

1309
00:59:42,719 --> 00:59:45,320
when he's working at Miami Metro, like solving crimes. I

1310
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:48,000
liked how this show had a little bit of that

1311
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:51,039
in there wasn't the main focus of it. Maybe I

1312
00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:53,320
maybe I wish that was actually the case. We didn't

1313
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:58,639
have this crazy Captain Spencer, you know a little bit. Yeah,

1314
00:59:58,679 --> 01:00:00,880
because I think those moments were really good, just the

1315
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,519
way that he was like reading the crime scene. It

1316
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:05,719
felt very genuine like Michael C. Hall, so uh a

1317
01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:08,960
little unfortunately didn't go that that way. I think overall, though,

1318
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,719
I am going to pass the show just because I

1319
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,559
did have a really good fun time with it. It

1320
01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:15,719
was also fun just to have a week to week

1321
01:00:16,119 --> 01:00:19,400
or sorry, a weekly show. We skipped one week there

1322
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,039
for some reason? Did they did they say why they

1323
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,000
skipped a week?

1324
01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:25,639
Speaker 2: No idea because it wasn't even during a holiday.

1325
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: They just yeah, it was like mid January. It was weird.

1326
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,599
It worked out for us for Taylor and I because

1327
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:30,519
we both had some time.

1328
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,719
Speaker 2: It wasn't ready they stuff.

1329
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: But no, I I'm I didn't gonna give this one

1330
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,079
a six out of ten, which us it's an alright score,

1331
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:45,679
but it is pretty It is a pretty drastic drop

1332
01:00:45,679 --> 01:00:48,039
off from maybe where I thought I would have rated it,

1333
01:00:48,119 --> 01:00:51,039
where where I was like episode two or three, like

1334
01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:53,119
I was really really viving with the show, like I

1335
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,239
was like nine ish up there, So definitely a sharp

1336
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,119
drop off at the end.

1337
01:00:57,159 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: You guys were pretty hid at the ben remember, yeah.

1338
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, absolutely it was fun to you know,

1339
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,800
have you in the comments you can hear your your

1340
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,039
vocal complaints with the continuity issues there.

1341
01:01:08,159 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: It's like the show though, you know, like the original

1342
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,039
Dextra show starts strong and then just quickly, not quickly,

1343
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:14,880
but over time peered off. And that's what this was,

1344
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,039
except it was with episodes were kind of a downward directory.

1345
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, there there is a real reason why you replaced, Taylor.

1346
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:30,320
You know you you're listening to our reviews.

1347
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:33,719
Speaker 3: If people want to wonder.

1348
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: When that was you coming into the.

1349
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:37,599
Speaker 2: Review, that's what I did, Taylor. Yeah, I people want

1350
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:39,880
to wonder what happened off camera pants Will attacked me.

1351
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,199
It was pretty much that it was pantsol Will come down,

1352
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,800
I'm gonna fucking kill you, and I had to fight

1353
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,639
for my life. Luckily the police showed up. But yeah,

1354
01:01:47,679 --> 01:01:49,000
I'm happy that clipping.

1355
01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:52,639
Speaker 1: That's why I got to use as much as we can.

1356
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, like I said, I'm gonna get a

1357
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,639
truncated version, so not on show that aren't dexter people

1358
01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:02,920
are gonna understand. But yeah, yeah, you know, so who

1359
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,679
who knows? I don't know what's happening, but uh yeah,

1360
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:07,360
we'll see. We'll cover on newscats. I guess if they

1361
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,000
announced the season two I think it's gonna. I think

1362
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,000
it's gonna There are a lot of I won't say

1363
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:13,960
loose ends, but open doors left open. And to me,

1364
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:17,199
it's like if they did a Dexter prequel Dexter Resurrection,

1365
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,760
and a Trinity prequel show, I feel like that show's okay.

1366
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,519
People are watching Dexter. They still like this genre, this character,

1367
01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:26,440
the story. So I imagine there will be a season

1368
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,360
two and uh yeah, we'll see what we cover. At

1369
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,239
least I'm kind of happy because I did say at

1370
01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:32,280
the beginning of the show that I didn't want them

1371
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,440
to like fight a big serial killer, and I guess

1372
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,519
he didn't. Patrick Empsey isn't a serial killer. Only took

1373
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:41,199
two victims, right, So there wasn't like a a serial

1374
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,880
It was a criminal. It was a serial killer tormenting Miami.

1375
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,000
But uh yeah, we'll see.

1376
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: We'll see. All right, Well, we'll be there, so make

1377
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,119
sure checking you know, keep youry on the feeds during

1378
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:54,840
the discord, do all those good things, and until next time,

1379
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,360
we'll see you.