WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.680 You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:08.039 a UFO hanging in We don't want to report every 3 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:09.480 thirty one. Do you wish to report a. 4 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.960 UFO over hey, we want to one of those. 5 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:16.559 Areas thirty one. Do you wish to find a report 6 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:19.760 of any kind of it? I wouldn't know what kind 7 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:24.960 of reports clouds time areas thirty one? Me neither there. 8 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:30.480 See if it was anybody above us to pass us, 9 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:32.960 Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of 10 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:37.039 golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO. 11 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:39.719 Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. 12 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:42.759 Yes, I'll just passed over. God. 13 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:43.840 I don't know what. 14 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:46.479 It was, but it's from at least to three thousand 15 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:47.079 feet above us. 16 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:49.479 See, I passed out over the top of US. 17 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:53.479 Ninety one one. 18 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:55.479 You just called up to me before rest. 19 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:04.640 They're after staying the airplanes. He is to God on 20 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:08.599 an unidentified object every liberty four call or calm on 21 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:10.239 an unidentified flying object. 22 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.280 Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their 23 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:24.959 experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had an encounter, 24 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:27.560 I would like to be on the show. You can 25 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:32.519 email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 26 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.439 Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. I hope you're 27 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:54.400 all doing well this week. I'm Nick Hunter and it's 28 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.959 the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight, we have blessed with the 29 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:01.519 company of David Lovegrow and he comes to us from 30 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.359 New South Wales in Australia. He has a couple of 31 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:08.199 experiences for us, starting off with a childhood encounter from 32 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:11.919 nineteen sixty five and an unusual meeting with an extremely 33 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:16.400 beautiful redhead girl with very strange green eyes that told 34 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:20.280 him she was not from Earth. David's experience was also 35 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:24.520 included in Paul Wallace's book Echoes of Eden. David is 36 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:27.520 a man of many talents and he runs the Viking 37 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:32.639 Superpower's YouTube channel, which covers everything from the paranormal, spirituality 38 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:36.639 and the mythology of the ancient Northern World and other cultures. 39 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:40.639 David is a Viking age expert, a kung Fu master, 40 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.159 and holds a Master of Arts degree in visual art. 41 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:48.000 David is up next, but first, if you enjoy the 42 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.400 show and you would like to help support the podcast 43 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:52.960 on Patreon, you can do this for as little as 44 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:56.080 one dollar a month. Head on over to patreon dot 45 00:02:56.199 --> 00:03:00.240 com Forward slash Ufo Chronicles podcast. You can also a 46 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:03.000 link in the description of this episode. Any help is 47 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:22.080 very much appreciated. Now on the show. Hello Dave, welcome 48 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:22.960 to the podcast. 49 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:25.800 Heither Nick. It's a very nice to be here. 50 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.280 And you're calling from New South Wales in Australia. 51 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:33.759 Yes, I certainly am from sunny northern New South Wales 52 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:37.319 up nearby and Bay. Very beautiful part of the. 53 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:41.000 World, wonderful stuff, a beautiful partner the world. Indeed, now 54 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:43.840 you have some experiences you're going to be sharing us. 55 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:46.080 Would you like to start at the beginning, please, sir? 56 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:52.879 Yeah, well the beginning for me, I didn't really I 57 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:59.439 didn't know about flying sources until probably I saw the 58 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:03.639 movie The Day the Earth Stood Still when I was 59 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.080 a little fella and probably about five, and this is 60 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:12.400 in the early sixties. Had a great impact on me. 61 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:19.480 I think that movie started something as far as being 62 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:24.519 open to this subject. But I remember I didn't have 63 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:28.600 any kind of need to make up stories about it. 64 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.959 I didn't sort of think, oh, I wish a flying 65 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.279 saucer would come and see me. I was actually sort 66 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:38.680 of terrified of the idea, and looking back that movie 67 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.560 doesn't seem all that scary now, but it was very 68 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:47.319 scary for us in the sixties, and several years ago 69 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:51.800 I had this sudden recall of something that happened to 70 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:55.839 me a little bit later after I saw that movie, 71 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:59.560 probably about ninety sixty five. There was a period I 72 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:04.319 I knew exactly when I've lived in this particular house 73 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:10.120 in Brisbane, and there was a period between nineteen sixty 74 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:13.759 four and ninety sixty seven, and I would you know, 75 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:17.600 at that time, I would have been between five and 76 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:22.879 nine years old. So this memory came back to me 77 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.240 really strongly, and I actually told my wife about it. 78 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.480 I said, I remembered something that happened to me as 79 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:32.720 a kid that it hasn't exactly been lost, but so 80 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.439 long ago. I hadn't thought about it for a long time. 81 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:41.120 But I remember hiding in my bed as a little guy, 82 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.639 pulling the sheets over my head and being quite terrified 83 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:48.920 because I could hear a flying saucer outside my window. 84 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:55.120 And what I remembered was this buzzing sound and it 85 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:59.920 was very loud. And I lived in a place in Brisbane, 86 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.759 the Archerfield Aerodrome, which was it used to be a 87 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.839 US fighter base during the Sycmal War and the Australian 88 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:11.639 Rural Australian Air Force used it, so we had all 89 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:15.639 sorts of aircraft, and I was very, very interested in aircraft, 90 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:20.279 so I knew the sounds of these old planes that 91 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:24.240 the beatle around, you know, big old twin engine transports 92 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:28.439 and lots of small planes used to fly at that time, 93 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:31.800 and so I was I sort of knew the sounds 94 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.680 of all the aeroplanes. And we had a few what 95 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.120 we call revheads around the area that would rev their 96 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:42.560 motors up, you know, for an hour or so, revving 97 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:47.600 tuning their cars. But this particular sound was like nothing 98 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:50.240 I'd heard before, and I just knew it was a 99 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:52.600 flying sourcer, but I didn't actually see it. I didn't 100 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:58.319 see a light. From my memory, it was morning. I 101 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:01.519 sort of see daylight when I think back, but it 102 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:05.560 could have been a little earlier than that. But the 103 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:09.319 feeling was I really hope they don't find me, you know, 104 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:13.720 I felt like they were looking for me. So that 105 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:19.519 stayed with me. And then years later, when this memory 106 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:23.160 came back, I was pondering this and it suddenly hit 107 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:27.879 me that maybe maybe I'd just been put back into bed, 108 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:31.920 rather than you know, them being out there looking for me, 109 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:33.639 which is what I thought when I was a kid, 110 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:37.720 maybe something else had gone on. So I just happened 111 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:41.079 to be in Brisbane this particular day just after that. 112 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:45.360 And I'm an artist as well as a writer, and 113 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:48.639 I've done workshops at a library showing kids how to 114 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:53.439 do comics and manga, so the Japanese comics. And I 115 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.079 realized that I was very close to that old house. 116 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:59.560 So I just drove around there to see this house 117 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:01.519 that I'd had been for three years, but it was 118 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.920 a particularly happy place. And then it occurred to me, 119 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:08.759 I wonder if there's ever been any kind of UFO 120 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:13.920 activities around this particular place. So the first search I 121 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:18.160 did straight away, an article from the Carrier Mail newspaper, 122 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.279 which is the main newspaper in Brisbane, came up. Nineteen 123 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:27.480 sixty five, I think it was May, and there was 124 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:32.600 this family who the mother and this little girl it 125 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:38.480 was about seven, had been woken in the early morning 126 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:44.440 by a great big light and the mother had gone 127 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:51.519 outside and seen this glowing, bright orange craft and it 128 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:54.440 was just sort of floating about one hundred meters from 129 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:58.039 the house, and then it sort of winked out and 130 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:00.399 appeared on the outside of this big gum tree. And 131 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.759 then I had these rays coming sort of above it, 132 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:08.159 moving in an unusual pattern, and they were Dutch people, 133 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.600 and I remember that it was a Dutch name, so 134 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:15.799 I thought, wow, that's pretty cool. I wonder where they lived. 135 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:21.000 So I started making some inquiries, just you know, I 136 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:22.720 like talking to people who went to some of the 137 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.279 local shops, looked for somebody pretty old, and it's when 138 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:30.840 old gentleman said, oh, yes, I know that family. Actually, 139 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.519 because it's a Dutch name, it was a bit unusual. 140 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.960 The sister's still living down the road here, and I 141 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:42.159 was like wow. So I said how could I contact her? 142 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:43.720 And he goes, I'll just go down and knock on 143 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.879 the door. I thought that was a bit rude, but 144 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:50.200 he insisted. He said, no, she's a really nice lady, 145 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:52.399 easy going. Just go down knock on the door. So 146 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:55.399 I went down and they had a big fence and 147 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:58.200 there was an intercom, so I buzzed that. I said, look, 148 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.840 I'm terribly sorry. I don't like to be a stranger 149 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:04.759 and just appear, but you know, and I told her 150 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:08.799 basically about the article and how I was interested. She 151 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:12.320 welcomed me in and made me a cup of tea 152 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:19.600 some biscuits, and we started chatting to chatting about this episode. 153 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:22.759 And then she said to me, you know it landed 154 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.159 up the back here. Oh that's not in the paper. 155 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:29.120 She said, look, come back tomorrow and I'll take you 156 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.879 up to where it landed. So next day I came around, 157 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:36.759 she took me up. It was like what we call 158 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:41.360 paddocks in Australias, you know, fields which I've had cows 159 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:46.799 in them, whatever, And she had actually triangulated this old 160 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:51.480 farmhouse and there was a body of water down a 161 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:54.120 hill on the other side and back to her house, 162 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:58.759 and she said, this is the exact spot. And it 163 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:03.960 had been grass and you know, just like an open paddock, 164 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:07.720 but now there was lots of trees. But I could 165 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:11.440 see clearly there was still a denuded area, just a 166 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:14.639 little tiny bushes, but a ring, you know, just as 167 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:16.240 she said. And she told me all about how this 168 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.320 ring had been there for years apparently, and people had 169 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.000 come from all over the world researchers. I think there 170 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:29.399 was a famous American researcher in the sixties. I don't 171 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:33.159 think it's John Mack. I think it's before him. But anyway, 172 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:36.000 there was all these people had come. I have now 173 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:39.799 really fine records of these people. But I ended up 174 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:44.639 talking to on the phone to the young girl, and 175 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:47.919 I also talked to the older brother, and they told 176 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:50.480 me what their mum had told them, that this craft 177 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:54.960 was not just orange, but it was sort of cycling 178 00:11:55.120 --> 00:12:00.159 through from super bright white to like an electric blue Perlo. 179 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:06.399 Apparently the whole it was like lit up like daylight outside. 180 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:10.320 The girl told me that she'd woken up in her 181 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.279 bed and couldn't get out of bed. She'd sort of 182 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.799 felt around the wall, and the wall went right around 183 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.360 the bed, and so she started to cry in fear. 184 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:22.399 And the next thing she was in her actual bed, 185 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.879 but her head was down the wrong way. And then 186 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:28.279 her mom came in. She said, I'll get your glass 187 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:31.039 of water. There a mum like thing to do. And 188 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.039 then mom goes out. And then suddenly, like Close Encounters 189 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:38.279 of the third kinds, it's just the whole house got 190 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:43.200 brightly lit up by this bright orange light. So mom says, 191 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:45.480 you stay there, darling, and she goes out, and she's 192 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:48.039 standing there in wonder looking at this thing. So and 193 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:51.919 this was a Dutch lady who come from New Guinea, 194 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:55.559 didn't speak much English, really didn't want to tell anybody 195 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:58.519 about this whole thing, so I think she was a 196 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:02.600 very good witness. In the end, I said to the 197 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:07.200 girl lady, you know, do you think you're actually on 198 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:11.639 that craft? Do you think you're maybe not in your 199 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:14.960 bed when you first woke up and the wall was 200 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.200 right around your bed And there was a pause, and 201 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:20.559 she said, yes, I know what you're saying. She said, 202 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:27.000 I have thought that. So yeah. I then thought, well, 203 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:30.919 like maybe I was on there too, you know, maybe 204 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.399 they had just put me back in bed and I 205 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:37.879 was just coming too out of the hypnosis or whatever 206 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:41.559 they do, which is you know, it's quite well chronicled. 207 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:48.039 So that was interesting for me because I hadn't been 208 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:52.879 particularly a UFO fanatic. I've always been really interested in 209 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:56.759 sci fi and I like the UFO subject, but at 210 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:00.480 that time, you know, several years ago, I wasn't into it. 211 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.679 But I got right into it after that, started really 212 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:11.200 reading and researching, and then fast forward a couple more years, 213 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:17.120 another ancient memory came to me. So essentially what happened was, 214 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.080 once again it was like a window and my memory 215 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:23.799 opened up, and they do say, as I'm sixty six, 216 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:26.159 so they do say as people get into their late 217 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:30.559 fifties sixties, often their youth starts to come back in 218 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.080 a lot of detail. And I was once a nurse, 219 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.919 and I noticed this amongst older people, that they would 220 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.919 just have these incredible, clear memories of being little kids. 221 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.799 And they told me, you know, I just remember, I'm 222 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:50.639 starting to really remember things about my youth that have 223 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:53.960 been gone for a long time. So it came back 224 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:59.240 to me something pretty extraordinary that it would have been 225 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:01.559 one is seventy. I really do believe it was nineteen 226 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:03.679 seventy eight. So I think about the job I had. 227 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:07.559 I remember I was a surfy I remember hair was 228 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:11.200 quite long, and that sort of happened about nineteen seventy eight. 229 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:15.000 I started surfing late seventy six, but my hair grew 230 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:19.159 gradually and I coffee shops were a new thing in 231 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:22.759 Australia at that time, and there was a little coffee 232 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:25.799 shop in this big shopping center in Brisbane, in Tripoli 233 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:31.480 shopping town West Big Westfield. So I remember, I clearly 234 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:34.879 remember sitting down at this table and they brought me 235 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:36.679 out of coffee and it was just all quite a 236 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:42.000 novel experience. I'd only ever really drank instant coffee. And 237 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:49.519 next thing, this extraordinarily beautiful young woman, so imagines me 238 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.200 I was twenty, comes up to the table and she's 239 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.279 really well dressed. She wasn't sort of the type of 240 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:56.879 girl that I would hang out with, you know, surfer girls, 241 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:01.320 you know, always wore surf type clothes. But she was 242 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:04.159 well dressed. I don't think it was a suit, but 243 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:10.519 it was unusual in big city clothing, and very very 244 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:15.519 pretty in a strong Scandinavian sort of way. And the 245 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.799 thing that amazed me was her eyes. She had these 246 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:25.279 unnatural green eyes, like it was a not just like 247 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:29.960 an Irish green. They are actually not glowing. But you 248 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:35.240 know those green lenses that came along later, so I'll 249 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:38.440 tell you about that, But people started using lenses in 250 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:42.440 the late eighties to change their eye color. But at 251 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:46.480 that time I'd never seen such eyes before. And she 252 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.200 said to me, may I sit with you? And that 253 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:54.720 was really like, wow, this is unusual. Usually, really gorgeous 254 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:58.039 girls don't just rock up and say can I sit 255 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:01.720 with you? So I said yes, of course, and she 256 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:05.359 sat there and she said, you're a very handsome young guy, 257 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:12.680 I would like to make love to you. And I'm like, really, 258 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:16.119 it just was too forward, you know. It was like, 259 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:19.480 you know, I was a pretty wild, adventurous young guy, 260 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:23.799 but still it was like, what's going on here? And 261 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:28.039 I said, well, sure, you know, let's going back to 262 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:31.839 my place. And you know, my place wasn't too far away, 263 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:38.680 and she said, oh no, not right now. And then 264 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:42.319 I said where are you from? And I thought this 265 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:44.519 must be a girl from Sydney, because we used to 266 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:49.359 think that girls from Sydney were really forward and really fun. 267 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.960 But you know, a different sort of girl, much more 268 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:59.759 sophisticated and modern and you know, free. So she's I said, 269 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:02.960 from Sydney. She said, no, I'm not from Sydney. I'm 270 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.960 not from around here. Okay, well where are you from? 271 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.599 And she looks me dad in the eye says I'm 272 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:15.039 not from this earth. And i'd actually been a nurse 273 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:19.759 for a couple of years, and I thought, like, there's 274 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:27.240 this girl, you know, escaped from the clinic. So I 275 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.920 don't remember what I said next, but I would have 276 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:33.440 got really cautious with that what I said to her. 277 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:38.880 She said, look, I'll cut to the chase I'm not 278 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:43.400 from here. I'm from somewhere other than the Earth. I 279 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:46.160 want you to come with me. The Mothership is meeting 280 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:48.880 me to pick me up. I've been on a mission. 281 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:51.920 The Mothership's coming to meet me down at Redland Bay. 282 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:55.279 I'm sure I was Redland Bay, but I used to 283 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:59.200 surf and Redland Bay is one of the places we 284 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:01.599 used to go and to get the ferry too, Stradbroke 285 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:05.640 Island where some great ways were, so I knew the area. 286 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:08.720 And she said, you know, the mothership's coming to get me, 287 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:12.240 and if you've got the courage to come down just Saturday, 288 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:17.160 you can come with us, specifically with me, and be 289 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:21.559 with me. And I was, you know, gobsmacked, going wow, 290 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:26.160 this girl is so hot. She really was a great beauty, 291 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:32.000 and yet it sounded like she was nuts. And she 292 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:36.839 said to me, you can't be concerned about your family 293 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:39.640 and friends. You're going to be away for quite a 294 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:42.799 long time. And I said, well, you're going to bring 295 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.000 me back, and she said, yeah, we'll bring you back, 296 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.200 but you'll be away for a fair while. So you've 297 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:50.920 got to leave behind any girlfriend. You've got your parents, 298 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:55.000 your family, your friends. And I was starting to take 299 00:19:55.079 --> 00:20:00.680 her seriously, as bizarre as it may seem, and I thought, nah, no, 300 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:04.000 I just this is too much. You know, if this 301 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:08.799 is real, I just can't do it. You know, I 302 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:11.079 just can't leave everybody behind. As much as I'd love 303 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:15.400 to go into space spend some time with this beautiful girl, 304 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:19.279 I can't really see myself being happy for too long 305 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:23.440 doing that. And then I thought, maybe, you know, if 306 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:28.039 she's a prankster, she could It's possible, quite possible. I 307 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:31.000 suppose she could have been pulling a prank. But the 308 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:35.400 problem is those eyes. When I started thinking about this 309 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:39.440 again and remembering at the time, I thought, these eyes 310 00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:42.400 are impossible. But when I remembered this and started to 311 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:47.960 recall the details, I started searching. You know, when did 312 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:54.640 colored contacts come into Australia. And it turns out they 313 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:59.359 weren't here until about nineteen eighty seven. They had been 314 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:03.720 developed in the States, like in Hollywood earlier, I think 315 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:06.799 as early as like the early seventies, but they were 316 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:12.519 handpainted and they were very rare, and you know, I thought, well, 317 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:16.759 could this girl have been to the States, you know, 318 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:20.039 could a family be wealthy and she got some of 319 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:22.240 these colored lens and she's just having a bit of fun. 320 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.920 So there is that, I mean, there is that to 321 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:30.440 be skeptical, but it seems sort of a long shot. 322 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:35.839 So that story, and there's another aspect to this I 323 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:40.799 wanted to bring up well fast forward again until fairly recently, 324 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:48.079 maybe maybe two years ago. I'm somebody that when I 325 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:50.279 get a b in my bonnet, when I get interested 326 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:53.920 in the subject, I really go deep. And I'd spent 327 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:58.319 you know, a number of years really listening to heaps 328 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:03.880 and heaps and heaps of testimonies of people who'd seen UFOs, 329 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:10.880 who'd encountered beings. Yeah, I'd really done my research. And 330 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:16.000 one of the cases that's obviously very well known to 331 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:20.519 most people in the scene is the Frederick Valentich disappearance 332 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:27.559 in Victoria, and that happened in nineteen seventy eight. Took 333 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:31.440 off from I think it was Morabin Airport, flying to 334 00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:36.119 King Island, disappears and those who know the case, which 335 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:39.519 is probably most of your listeners, it was pretty extraordinary. 336 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:47.000 What he was communicating to the air traffic control I 337 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:50.160 think it was Melbourne and what he saw, you know, 338 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:53.240 he said, it's not an aircraft, it's circling me. It's 339 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:56.039 definitely not an aircraft. It's playing with me, and then 340 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.839 there's this great grinding, metallic noise and then that's the end. 341 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:05.839 And they never found his aircraft. So that's a very 342 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:09.759 famous case. And you know, I'd thought about it for 343 00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:12.359 quite a long time, and then it just suddenly hit 344 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.720 me that it happened in nineteen seventy eight and that 345 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:22.240 he was twenty, and I, you know, I bet that 346 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:24.680 it was nineteen seventy eight, when I was twenty that 347 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:30.880 this beautiful girl approached me. So then I thought, wait 348 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:35.039 a minute. Frederick Valentich had been an officer in the 349 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:40.079 Royal Australian Air Force Air Training Corps and I had 350 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:42.720 been an officer in the Royal Australian Air Force Air 351 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:48.319 Training Corps and he'd stuck with it, and I decided 352 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.519 to leave after school, or could have remained in and 353 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:54.319 become a reserve officer. I would have held the rank 354 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:58.240 of a pilot officer, but I went on to sort 355 00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:05.640 of nonation careers and then I just got this eerie feeling. 356 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:10.559 I thought, what if that mothership she was talking about 357 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.240 was real and it was the one who grabbed him 358 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:19.880 Because we were virtually the same guys, you know, young. 359 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:22.559 He was a good looking guy, dark headed, sort of 360 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:27.480 twenty year old. I was a blonde, you know, good looking, surfy, 361 00:24:28.160 --> 00:24:34.839 and we were both aviation nuts with significant experience, as 362 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:38.680 young guys can have, you know, not the actual part. 363 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.519 He was an actual pilot. I used to teach aviation 364 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:46.000 and really into it. It's a funny thing to make 365 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:49.880 that connection, but I just felt that somehow added a 366 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.839 little bit of weight to my feeling that perhaps that 367 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:57.440 girl was real, and which immediately led me to think, well, 368 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.920 who was she? Who are we dealing with here? And 369 00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:06.240 you know, that's the story. That's my two experiences, which 370 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:08.519 you might call that first one, when I was a 371 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.519 kid hearing the flying saucer, I guess you call it 372 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:14.759 a close encounter of the second kind, where you know, 373 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:17.680 I didn't see anything, but I heard something. If it 374 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:23.160 was real, I can't prove that this one with the girl, well, 375 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:27.519 that could have just been close encounter with a really 376 00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:31.720 funny prankster, close encounter with a girl who was a 377 00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:36.000 little bit mentally unstable, or it could have been an 378 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:41.160 actual close encounter with a humanoid, beautiful person not from 379 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:41.599 the Earth. 380 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:46.799 I must admit Dave, you know that is a strange connection. 381 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.480 I mean, on service yet we have meet into people 382 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:53.880 all the time. But you meet a girl with green eyes. 383 00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:56.079 I mean that, in itself, I believe is rare. I 384 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.079 think it's only two or three percent of the world's 385 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:02.319 population of me green eyes, So that in itself is 386 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:04.480 a chance of running to a green eyes. I'm sure 387 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.200 they're out there listening right now. It's a rare eye color. 388 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:09.960 One thing I do have on this show is people 389 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:13.960 have these strange encounters with other people which sometimes they 390 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.279 think they could be from somewhere else. 391 00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:19.839 Not just green eyes either. They weren't just I've got 392 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:25.160 green eyes. My family's quite Irish and southern Scottish and 393 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.440 these you know when you I don't know, you've probably 394 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:34.200 always been aware of people having colored contacts, but in 395 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:37.119 the seventies it was like, we've never seen it. So 396 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:39.839 for me it was like, what's with this girl's eyes? 397 00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:46.480 They weren't just a normal human rare green. They were 398 00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.480 really emerald green. And I'll just chuck this in for 399 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:54.319 what it's worth. But the Nordic brand of alien, the 400 00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:59.319 very humanoid, good looking, very good looking, often quite tall 401 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:04.119