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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app stories that were following Israeli Prime
Speaker 1: Minister of Bannet Yaho has vowed revenge for what he
Speaker 1: described as a cruel and malicious violation of the ceasefire
Speaker 1: agreement with Hamas, But Hamas apparently released the body that
Speaker 1: Israeli authorities found was not that of an Israeli mother
Speaker 1: of two young boys. HAMA said that it would conduct
Speaker 1: a review of the information regarding the body. The group
Speaker 1: suggested that the mix up was possible because they said
Speaker 1: Israel bombed the area where the hostages were being held
Speaker 1: and that they may have grabbed the wrong body. President
Speaker 1: Trump's envoy Ukraine and Russia has says he held extensive
Speaker 1: and positive discussions with President Zelenski of Ukraine after about
Speaker 1: the three year war. He praised the leader as an
Speaker 1: embattled and courageous leader of a nation at war. This
Speaker 1: is retired US Lieutenant General Keith. This is quite a
Speaker 1: departure from the rebukes of Zelensky that we have seen
Speaker 1: by Trump and some other senior US officials. A federal
Speaker 1: judge has allowed President Trump's mass firing of federal workers
Speaker 1: to move forward. District Judge said he could not grant
Speaker 1: emotion from unions that represent the workers to stop the layoffs,
Speaker 1: though he did say that there is some chaos as
Speaker 1: a result of all of this.
Speaker 2: And the fires.
Speaker 1: The Palisades fire, the Eton fire wiped out thousands of homes.
Speaker 1: That has forced all of these families to find places
Speaker 1: to live, and the tenants who were just getting by
Speaker 1: before the fires now are facing the search for a
Speaker 1: new rental home. La rental market had too few affordable
Speaker 1: homes to start with, and now they're suggesting that there
Speaker 1: are a lot of rent gougers out there. Attorney General
Speaker 1: Rob Bonte has worn property owners against price gouging and
Speaker 1: said you cannot accept a rent that exceeds a ten
Speaker 1: percent cap, even if the prospective tenant is willing to
Speaker 1: pay more. Speaking of our fires, the cleanup is in
Speaker 1: full swing and we got to get through the cleanup
Speaker 1: before we can do any sort of recovery. And if
Speaker 1: you think about the devastation in Altadena or Pacific Palisades,
Speaker 1: you're talking about millions of tons of trash. One estimate
Speaker 1: is that it's about four and a half million tons
Speaker 1: of ash, of wreckage, of junk, of damage, all of that.
Speaker 1: That would be one of the largest amounts of disaster
Speaker 1: debris in the state history. Now we know that everything
Speaker 1: that burned in people's homes, batteries, metals, appliances, televisions, couches,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, many of them have toxic chemicals in
Speaker 1: them that are released as a gas when they burn
Speaker 1: or are just spread out. When it comes to the
Speaker 1: ashes that are left over, and the previous assessment found
Speaker 1: that the ash did have levels of toxic chemicals that
Speaker 1: would be considered chemical considered hazardous by state standards. But
Speaker 1: the debris has been taken to landfills before any of
Speaker 1: the testing has been performed. As an example, up in
Speaker 1: Granada Hills, you got the Sunshine Canyon landfill. If you
Speaker 1: go up the New Hall Pass, it's just to the
Speaker 1: west of the highway. I go by there every single day,
Speaker 1: at least twice. And there are days I haven't figured
Speaker 1: out the weather pattern yet, like is it on a
Speaker 1: warm day, is it a cold day? But there are
Speaker 1: days you can smell that thing because it's a dump.
Speaker 1: I mean literally, it's a dump. It's a landfill. It's
Speaker 1: where everybody takes their trash, and there is a concern that,
Speaker 1: among other things, there's a school about a mile away
Speaker 1: van Go Elementary over in Granada Hills. The landfill is
Speaker 1: up in an area where there are strong winds that
Speaker 1: come through the New Hall Pass and there's a concern
Speaker 1: from the people who live in Granada Hills that those
Speaker 1: winds are going to blow this dust and ash into
Speaker 1: the community's downwind and one of the people who lives
Speaker 1: there says, yeah, it's dangerous to us. And the reason
Speaker 1: we know that is those guys all wear hazmat suits
Speaker 1: when they're messing around with it, and that they're depositing
Speaker 1: the material from six in the morning to seven at night.
Speaker 1: There are portions of that material that are gonna get dry,
Speaker 1: and the winds are going to keep blowing and then
Speaker 1: that's going to disperse this particulate matter across the San
Speaker 1: Fernando Valley. Another one in Calabasas, they have a landfill.
Speaker 1: A bunch of different signs on their policies for toxic
Speaker 1: matter or dangerous matter that would go into the landfill.
Speaker 1: One of them just simply says no hazardous waste. Another
Speaker 1: one says you can't put these electronics, these household items
Speaker 1: because they may contain toxic substances. Think about batteries or
Speaker 1: cans of paint or spray paint or something like that.
Speaker 1: There's a new sign in front of the Calabass landfill
Speaker 1: that says any incoming fire debris must have a certificate
Speaker 1: that verifies its non hazardous.
Speaker 2: The problem is that.
Speaker 1: Only pertains to the private contractors who have been hauling dirt,
Speaker 1: not the federally hired crews that are taking part in
Speaker 1: the debris removal. Guy lives in Agura Hills, president of
Speaker 1: the Loso virgin A School Board in Calabasses, said you
Speaker 1: legally cannot throw away a double A battery in this landfill.
Speaker 1: But now they're allowing hundreds of thousands of tons of
Speaker 1: burnt batteries, paint chips, and other things into the community
Speaker 1: and it's incomprehensible. They're not saying just take it somewhere else,
Speaker 1: we don't care where it goes. They're saying that there
Speaker 1: are hazardous waste landfills that are equipped to handle the
Speaker 1: potential toxic, dangerous material because they have, among other things,
Speaker 1: sturdy line in the bottom of them. To prevent leakage.
Speaker 1: They have monitors to detect unintended discharges, etc. LA City
Speaker 1: Councilman John Lee represents that northwest side of the San
Speaker 1: Fernando Valley. He has introduced a measure calling on the
Speaker 1: city attorney to take legal action to block any of
Speaker 1: the wildfire debris from being dumped at Sunshine Canyon and
Speaker 1: said the proposal without sufficient testing and oversight, would be
Speaker 1: an insult. The proposal for them to accept the debris,
Speaker 1: he said, it would be an insult to the communities
Speaker 1: that are located near the landfill. The district has already
Speaker 1: faced numerous environmental challenges and simply can't allow another one
Speaker 1: to make its way into the neighborhoods the landfill. According
Speaker 1: to the landfill people, Republic Services is the owner of
Speaker 1: the landfill at Sunshine Canyon. They say they are equipped
Speaker 1: to handle this. They said, it's a strong community partner.
Speaker 1: It's responsible option for the non hazardous waste. They have
Speaker 1: extensive experience firing handling fire waste. Land Bill does have
Speaker 1: one of those state of the art liner systems, a
Speaker 1: cover system, a gas collection system. All of them helped
Speaker 1: to ensure that the material is managed safely and responsibly.
Speaker 2: This is another one of those fights.
Speaker 1: There's kind of an aftermath of the disaster that we
Speaker 1: saw back on January seventh, started on January seventh, that's
Speaker 1: not going to end anytime soon as this cleanup continues.
Speaker 1: Speaking of though, yesterday we spent some time talking about
Speaker 1: how Karen Bass has been in the hot seat, a
Speaker 1: well deserved hot seat, since she left Ta Ghana when
Speaker 1: we knew that there was this dangerous wind situation that
Speaker 1: was happening in the hills. Gavin Newsom is another one
Speaker 1: of those guys who's going to be judged by guys,
Speaker 1: I mean politicians, who's going to be judged based on
Speaker 1: the response to this disaster. It's not just another wildfire.
Speaker 1: This is the largest disaster that we've seen in California history,
Speaker 1: at least monetarily speaking. Gavin Newsom has been seen in
Speaker 1: and around south southern California, La County, La City specifically
Speaker 1: since the fire started back on January seventh.
Speaker 2: He was here the next day.
Speaker 1: He has been living and working out of the Governor's office,
Speaker 1: the one that exists here in LA for quite a while.
Speaker 1: And listen, I am not one who is a giant
Speaker 1: fan of Gavin Newsom, but I got to give him
Speaker 1: credit for being here. Cal Matters actually wrote up an
Speaker 1: article that said that a politician at whatever level can
Speaker 1: rise or fall depending on the way they respond to disasters,
Speaker 1: and in this case, they're suggesting that because the governor
Speaker 1: has been so present after the fires, that he might
Speaker 1: even be considered the governor of Los Angeles. Interesting title,
Speaker 1: but this is clearly a crucial moment in whatever legacy
Speaker 1: he's going to have as a two term governor of
Speaker 1: the state of California and whatever political future that he's
Speaker 1: got working around that finally quaffed head of his And
Speaker 1: as much as he wants to deny that that's on
Speaker 1: his mind, that's completely on his mind. There's a guy
Speaker 1: who a journalist wrote a biography about former Governor Brown
Speaker 1: and now teaches at UCLA. Said people do turn to
Speaker 1: leadership state or federal when all hell is breaking loose.
Speaker 1: We know that, and said it's a time when you
Speaker 1: can really seal the affections of people by seeming to
Speaker 1: be there for them. And sometimes it's a term that
Speaker 1: my father in law used to use or still uses.
Speaker 1: It's called the ministry of presence. Sometimes people just need
Speaker 1: to know that you're physically there when they're going through something.
Speaker 1: And to his credit, Gavin Newsom has been at every
Speaker 1: one of these photo ops, every one of these not everyone,
Speaker 1: but most of these news conferences, the higher profile ones.
Speaker 1: When cal Matters went to the governor's office and asked
Speaker 1: for comment on all of this and asked to speak
Speaker 1: to the governor, they turned him down.
Speaker 2: They said, nah, he's too busy.
Speaker 1: But the senior advisor for communications did insist that the
Speaker 1: governor and his staff are not contemplating his legacy as
Speaker 1: they navigate the response to the fires.
Speaker 2: How is that possible.
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom was one of the loudest people, the loudest politicians,
Speaker 1: the loudest Democratic politicians that was going against a second
Speaker 1: Trump administration.
Speaker 2: Remember the campaign.
Speaker 1: He was going to travel around the country and he
Speaker 1: was going to help safeguard states from the power that
Speaker 1: was the evil Republican Party. That's what he was planning
Speaker 1: to do. He's been really quiet on the second Trump
Speaker 1: administration since it's come to fruition, since inauguration day.
Speaker 2: On January twentieth.
Speaker 1: He was in southern California on January seventh. Lucky for
Speaker 1: him because he was already there for an event with
Speaker 1: Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden was in town. You remember that night too.
Speaker 1: That event was ultimately scrapped because of the fires that
Speaker 1: were going on, and Gavin Newsom made it to the
Speaker 1: fire zones within a couple of hours and said, when
Speaker 1: it became very clear, this is his communications director, when
Speaker 1: it became clear that this was one of the worst
Speaker 1: disasters in California history. We stayed being down there seeing
Speaker 1: the level of devastation. It was clear that this was
Speaker 1: something that was going to take all of his time. Now,
Speaker 1: think about the difference between that attitude and the attitude
Speaker 1: that Karen Bass had, And again we talked about it before.
Speaker 1: She says she was never warned about the potential danger.
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom gets lucky by being in southern California. I
Speaker 1: don't think he would have come down here if he
Speaker 1: knew just that the red flag warning was considered a
Speaker 1: particularly dangerous situation. But he gets to have the slight
Speaker 1: positive bump, while Karen Bass is dealing with the negative
Speaker 1: bump for the way that she handled it. And to
Speaker 1: be honest, and at least part of it is just
Speaker 1: the bad timing of the Biden request that she go
Speaker 1: to Ghana to act as a sort of a diplomatic
Speaker 1: liaison for the United States at that inauguration there in Ghana.
Speaker 1: So big stories out of Hollywood today as well. Netflix
Speaker 1: is going to drop all kinds of money in another
Speaker 1: country for some of the production for TV and movies.
Speaker 2: This is a new one we haven't heard before. That.
Speaker 1: And James Bond, the property that is James Bond is
Speaker 1: now owned by another evil genius. A couple stories that
Speaker 1: we're following throughout the day today. I don't know what
Speaker 1: kind of a mess this made, but six elephants were
Speaker 1: killed when a passenger train collided with a herd in
Speaker 1: Sri Lanka. They said it was four young elephants and
Speaker 1: two adult elephants near a wildlife sanctuary there in Sri Lanka.
Speaker 1: That just sounds absolutely awful. Luigimangioni is doing court today.
Speaker 1: Man accused of shooting the CEO of United Healthcare back
Speaker 1: in New York City and then leading everybody on a manhunt,
Speaker 1: scheduled to be in court today for the first time
Speaker 1: since his arraignment on state murder and terror charges in December.
Speaker 1: Prosecutors and his defense attorneys are expected to do a
Speaker 1: bunch of updates and stuff, status of the case, etc.
Speaker 1: But the judge could set the deadlines for some of
Speaker 1: the pre trial paperwork and possibly even a trial date.
Speaker 1: And then Ukrainian intelligence is suggesting that Vladimir Putin is
Speaker 1: preparing an announcement to declare victory in its war with Ukraine.
Speaker 1: That he's expected to frame this announcement not only as
Speaker 1: a triumph over Ukraine but also over NATO and portraying
Speaker 1: this conflict as a broader defeat for the West. We'll
Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about that we get in
Speaker 1: a swamp watch just in terms of this would be
Speaker 1: similar to what President Trump has been giving to Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1: But these already getting a bunch of pushback from some
Speaker 1: pretty high high profile Conservatives and Republicans who disagree with
Speaker 1: the way that he's going about trying to broker a
Speaker 1: peace deal between Ukraine and Russia. All Right, So Netflix
Speaker 1: is planning to spend a billion dollars in Mexico over
Speaker 1: the next few years. Ted Sarandos, of course, the head
Speaker 1: co founder I believe it is co CEO, announced the
Speaker 1: plan yesterday during a press conference with the President of
Speaker 1: Mexico Claudia Shinbaum. They said it could fund about twenty
Speaker 1: productions per year on average. During the event, they also
Speaker 1: announced two million dollars in Mexico City's studios called Churubusco
Speaker 1: Studios to improve their facilities. Mexico, they said, is a
Speaker 1: key place in Netflix's history because the TV show Club
Speaker 1: de Quervos, produced in Mexico, premier back in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: was the first Netflix series that was shot outside of
Speaker 1: the the United States. Since then, they've put a bunch
Speaker 1: of projects in Mexico. Have been popular films like Roma
Speaker 1: and Bardo and Pinocchio by Mexican directors. They've been standouts
Speaker 1: for Netflix. In twenty twenty, they established the Latin American
Speaker 1: headquarters for Netflix there in Mexico City, and they said
Speaker 1: for the last five years, the workforce in that office
Speaker 1: has grown tenfold, which is pretty amazing. The CEO Ted
Speaker 1: Sarandos again revealed that the production of the feature film
Speaker 1: Pedro Parramo contributed more than eighteen and a half million
Speaker 1: dollars to the GDP of Mexico and generated thousands of
Speaker 1: jobs in those sectors, and he spoke very eloquently about
Speaker 1: the scenes.
Speaker 2: There the journey in Mexico. This is Ted Sarando speaking.
Speaker 1: Our journey in Mexico has taken us from north to south,
Speaker 1: from sunsets on the Baja California Peninsula to sunrises on
Speaker 1: the Caribbean. We have produced more than in more than
Speaker 1: fifty locations in twenty five states. With this renewed commitment,
Speaker 1: we look forward to deepening our partnership even more. The
Speaker 1: business opportunities there are all over the place, and you
Speaker 1: think about this, just if all you did was look
Speaker 1: at the number of potential streaming customers in Mexico. A
Speaker 1: lot of them, just like we hear in the United States,
Speaker 1: maintained several subscriptions at a time. They said Netflix is
Speaker 1: among the three most popular streaming platforms among Mexican people,
Speaker 1: is the second most used video on demand application, with
Speaker 1: a market share about twenty one percent. So they're pouring
Speaker 1: a lot of money into that market.
Speaker 2: And then James Bond, this is a shakeup.
Speaker 1: They're saying, they could stir the film industry, get it shaken, stirred.
Speaker 1: Amazon MGM announced that the studio has taken the creative
Speaker 1: rain of the Double O seven franchise from the family
Speaker 1: that controlled it for a long time. Michael Wilson and
Speaker 1: Barbara Brockley said they were going to be stepping back,
Speaker 1: so Amazon MGM, Wilson, Brockley they formed a new joint
Speaker 1: venture in which they all co own the intellectual property rights,
Speaker 1: but it's Amazon that's going to have creative control on this.
Speaker 1: They didn't explain how much this is a few hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars, but they said it's expected to close sometime
Speaker 1: over the next year. Amazon bought MGM for six billion
Speaker 1: in change a few years ago. They said it's significantly
Speaker 1: motivated by the acquisition of one of the movies most
Speaker 1: beloved and long time franchises. Of course, No Time to
Speaker 1: Die was the last James Bond. There's a question now
Speaker 1: about what they're going to do with this. Do they
Speaker 1: turn this into sort of the Star Wars, I mean
Speaker 1: a huge franchise like this, Think think Star Wars, I
Speaker 1: think Marvel movies.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of off shoots that you can do
Speaker 1: that have never really been done with James Bond. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the character's been in dozens, if not a couple one
Speaker 1: hundred different stories in book form, movie forum, et cetera.
Speaker 1: But they've never done the beginning of James Bond, the
Speaker 1: life story of this guy. How did he become the
Speaker 1: world's most handsome secret agent?
Speaker 2: And what about the other people that he works with?
Speaker 1: Are there backstories to these other characters that are involved
Speaker 1: that that could have some sort of spin off on
Speaker 1: all of them? What Joe Russo though Marvel Cinematic Universe
Speaker 1: co director guy he did Avengers Endgame, he says, don't
Speaker 1: Cinematic Universe James Bond stick with just James Bond movies.
Speaker 1: Don't get into those other character discussions and offshoot movies.
Speaker 1: All right, changing gears significantly in the next segment, something
Speaker 1: happened yesterday that I talked about at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the show yesterday, and this was the turnover of the
Speaker 1: bodies of Israeli hostages by Hamas. Two of those were
Speaker 1: of babies, when was nine months old, when was four
Speaker 1: years old, and then their mother. The problem, according to
Speaker 1: Israel is that body was not their mother. And Benjamin
Speaker 1: Netanyaho has basically said, in echoing Trump, all hell is
Speaker 1: going to break loose.
Speaker 2: The story out of Israel got gruesome.
Speaker 1: That place has been absolutely showered in blood for year decade.
Speaker 1: I mean it is a hard place to be. The
Speaker 1: ceasefire that we've seen between Israel and Hamas has at
Speaker 1: the very least resulted in some hostages being released.
Speaker 2: Yesterday was.
Speaker 1: Very sad chapter in that because four dead hostages. The
Speaker 1: bodies of those four hostages were released, but it didn't
Speaker 1: go as planned. Talked yesterday about how Hamas was parading
Speaker 1: these flag draped not flag draped, a cloth, black cloth
Speaker 1: draped coffins that were apparently locked, and when they were
Speaker 1: finally handed over to the Red Cross, the Red Cross
Speaker 1: hands them over to the Israeli Defense Forces. The IDF
Speaker 1: then does forensic tests, autopsy basically on the remains of
Speaker 1: those four people. Two of them were Aril and Kafir Bibas,
Speaker 1: the youngest of the hostages that were taken back on
Speaker 1: October seventh of twenty twenty three, and Hamas had said
Speaker 1: that they died in an Israeli air strike. Now we've
Speaker 1: talked with ABC's Jordana Miller. She filed this report from Jerusalem.
Speaker 3: Terris and Gaza murdered quote with their bare hands, nine
Speaker 3: month old fear Bibus and his four year old brother Aril.
Speaker 3: Those are the gruesome results from Israel's National forensic institute
Speaker 3: that identified and did autopsies on the bodies of the
Speaker 3: young Israeli hostages. It's another painful blow for the Bebas
Speaker 3: family and Israeli's at large after Hamas failed on Thursday
Speaker 3: to return the body of the children's mother, Shiri, handing
Speaker 3: over instead the body of a Gazen woman Jordana Miller,
Speaker 3: ABC News Jerusalem.
Speaker 1: So it's hard to figure out what is true, what
Speaker 1: is not true, what's going on back there. Benjamin Etna
Speaker 1: who recorded a speech to the Israeli people and said,
Speaker 1: may God avenge their blood and we will also have
Speaker 1: our vengeance. Now, a lot of people in Israel if
Speaker 1: those allegations are true, that these kids were literally killed
Speaker 1: by Hamas, not by an Israeli strike. If that is
Speaker 1: not the body of Shiri Bibas, their mother, people want
Speaker 1: Hamas wiped off the face of the earth.
Speaker 2: Enough.
Speaker 1: Toylie Bennett, a former Prime minister, said that the treatment
Speaker 1: of that family, the Bebas family, shows the majority of
Speaker 1: Gozen's want to murder all of the Israelis, and for
Speaker 1: some of the people who live in Israel, they have said,
Speaker 1: this is exactly why we need to not stop this war.
Speaker 2: They don't like the ceasefire. Now.
Speaker 1: The ceasefire itself is supposed to end early in March,
Speaker 1: and when that happens, at least the way it's gone
Speaker 1: in the past, is Israel picks up right where they
Speaker 1: left off and blows up things and breaks things. Buzzel
Speaker 1: Schmotrich is a far right finance minister in Israel and
Speaker 1: said the only solution is the destruction of Hamas and
Speaker 1: this must not be postponed. There are voices that are
Speaker 1: calling for calm that the fate of the family. The
Speaker 1: Bebas family exemplified why they need to extend the ceasefire
Speaker 1: to bring home the seventy hostages that are still there
Speaker 1: and in some cases dead. Hamas said in a statement
Speaker 1: it's investigating the claims that that wasn't Shiri Bibas's body
Speaker 1: and said that they may have mistakenly confused her body
Speaker 1: for that of a dead Palestinian woman in the aftermath
Speaker 1: of the bombing that they said took place late in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. That they've been sitting on these bodies
Speaker 1: literally for well over a year before they return them.
Speaker 1: Nobody has been able to verify the accounts of either
Speaker 1: side of them of either side here, whether in fact
Speaker 1: it was a mistaken Palestinian woman, if it was a
Speaker 1: game that was being played by Hamas, if this was
Speaker 1: something that Israel is saying simply to stoke up anger, whatever,
Speaker 1: We just there's really no way to independently verify that.
Speaker 1: While that was going on, three buses exploded near Tel Aviv,
Speaker 1: and what Israeli police said was a suspected coordinated terror attack.
Speaker 1: The buses where the bombs exploded were empty. They were
Speaker 1: in separate parking lots about five hundred yards away from
Speaker 1: each other. No injuries reported from the explosions.
Speaker 2: They said.
Speaker 1: Another bomb is also found undetonated on a fourth bus.
Speaker 1: The explosive devices, they said, resembled bombs that Israeli police
Speaker 1: have seen throughout the West Bank. One person has been arrested,
Speaker 1: but they haven't given a whole lot of other details.
Speaker 1: There was a note on one of the bombs that
Speaker 1: said revenge revenge against the tul Karm camp, referring to
Speaker 1: one of the Israeli operations in the West Bank last week.
Speaker 1: So all right, swamp Watch, we'll get into the stories
Speaker 1: about what's going on in DC. The importance of using
Speaker 1: weights in your strength training dogs, sleeping.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are all Friday topics, are they not.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about some of the fun stuff and the
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