WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:03.439 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and 2 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:07.679 Jay Gonzalid Sound Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova 3 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:12.519 Insurance Services and Sure Your most Prized Possessions kt c 4 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:14.919 R two, SAG and iHeartRadio Station. 5 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:29.239 National Champion Andy Lopus. You baby baseball. How are you coaching? 6 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.120 I'm doing good, Stee. Thanks for having me. Man, you're 7 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:33.320 an old veteran at this. I'll just find it out. 8 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:36.799 I had a radio show and a TV show in Gainesville, 9 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:38.679 Florida when I was coaching at the University of Florida. 10 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:42.759 Lois rating show in the history of radio and TV. 11 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:44.520 But but I survived it. 12 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:46.399 But you survived it? Was it difficult? 13 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:47.560 You know what? 14 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:49.960 By the grace of God I had, I had. I 15 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:52.320 was there seven years, and six of those years we 16 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:54.560 won we want a couple of conference championships, went to 17 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:56.719 Omaha a few times and went in his number one 18 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.600 team in the nation in nineteen ninety eight, and only 19 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:02.200 one year did we not go to postseason there in 20 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:05.680 the seven years I was there, and we started off marvelously. 21 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.519 We were twenty two and three going into Athens, Georgia 22 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:11.159 about the second week of conference and fifth in the nation. 23 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:13.560 We had just the year before gone to Omaha's a 24 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:15.159 number one team in the nation, and that's another story. 25 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.200 Didn't win the national title. Still have thoughts about that. 26 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:21.519 But anyway, and in that weekend I lost Jason dill 27 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:24.040 Are All American first basement hit three in the lineup, 28 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:25.799 a Friday. 29 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:28.239 Night guy, and our closer. We lost our. 30 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:30.120 Friday Night guy, our closer, and our number three old 31 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:33.159 Winter in one week in the season Indian injuries. So 32 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:35.480 we spit oil the rest of the way of the season. 33 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:38.480 We didn't get into postseason. And man, that radio show 34 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:40.359 was very interesting. 35 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:44.079 Well it predated or about the time internet started, but 36 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:47.000 not you know, online stuff, So that was when you 37 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.719 got your grief instead of online. 38 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:52.280 It was I gotta be honest, like I said, I 39 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:54.760 was really fortunate. Six of the seven years we were 40 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:57.719 in postseason. Everybody was happy, life was great, life was grand. 41 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.000 But woo nineteen ninety nine, Man, though, when did you 42 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:04.680 leave there? I came here in two thousand and one. 43 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:07.480 Okay, so two years later you must have did well. 44 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:09.439 The two thousand year, yeah, we were in. 45 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:14.680 We lost to Miami twelve innings they've won that regional 46 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:16.840 and then went on and won the national title. 47 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:20.319 Yeah, and yeah, you know, yeah, we played. 48 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.199 Okay, you had a fantastic career. It's easy to say 49 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.879 that you had a numero longtime career. How many years. 50 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:26.560 Thirty eight years? 51 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:29.439 Coach, head coach, head coach, always head coach. Okay, So 52 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:33.039 at Pepperdine you had a national title, correct, a fantastic 53 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:36.479 career there. You moved to Florida from Pepperdine. From Pepperdine, 54 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:40.639 then you moved here. So at what point along the road, 55 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:45.120 this glorious road that you took, did you think, oh crap, 56 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:48.039 this is kind of big time baseball. You know what 57 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.879 I'm saying. You're doing it for fun and you enjoyed it, right. 58 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.280 I mean yeah, I mean here's the reality of it. 59 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:55.680 I'll keep it as quick as because you know again, 60 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:59.319 I'll keep it quick. But I never ever, ever had 61 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:01.879 one thought of being a baseball coach. Ever, What do 62 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:04.919 you want to be when you grew up? Honestly? Yeah, 63 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:08.840 I grew up poor, kind of a poor kid. My 64 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:10.759 mom and they were the greatest parents on Earth, man. 65 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:12.319 But I grew up you know what I want? I 66 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:13.400 just want to make money. 67 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:14.319 I did. 68 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:16.159 I just want to make money and be able to 69 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:19.120 buy things that I wanted and kind of split. It 70 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.080 had to be something I didn't care. You didn't care, 71 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:25.039 I didn't care. I really didn't care. I was learning 72 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.199 to sell real estate life insurance policies. 73 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:28.280 What age were you? 74 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:31.240 Right out of UCLA twenty two and then the guy. 75 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:33.800 I was about ready to be certified, and the guy said, 76 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:35.199 you know what, I got to be honest, you you 77 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:37.240 look way too young. I don't think you can go 78 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:41.639 into a home and sell term policy life insurance policy. 79 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.479 And so he kind of discouraged me, right, but he said, 80 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.240 you know if you want, and I got a little discouraged. 81 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:49.080 So I drove home and uh never it was raining. 82 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:51.479 I was living in LA and I went to junior 83 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:53.719 college before I went to UCLA. So I stopped by 84 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:55.599 the junior college and then you know, I was there 85 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:57.800 and told the coach and he said, well, why don't 86 00:03:57.800 --> 00:03:59.599 you come help me? And I went well, and he goes, 87 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.400 it's helped me, and I said, well, I need some money, 88 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:04.960 so I can't pay anything, but you know, do something else. 89 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:07.560 My family were all long shortman, so I worked on 90 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:09.360 the dots. I work on the docks a little bit, 91 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:11.479 but you get your degree before history. 92 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.759 So what the hell you get in? What history is 93 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:15.879 not gonna pay you anything? What's wrong with you? 94 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:18.959 Well, you know, my wife's a graduated UCLA as well. 95 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.199 Now she's really sharp, she's a three point five. 96 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:22.040 So you're a smart man. 97 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:26.319 Married Andy Lopez is the epitome of c's getting degrees. 98 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.800 Stay eligible, stay eligible, and play baseball. Right and uh 99 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:33.680 so that was that was my hope and prayer. 100 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:36.000 Okay, so you go back and you get the job 101 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:36.519 at the JC. 102 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:38.040 I'm working at the j C. So I was an 103 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:41.120 assistant that one year. It's a great story from this standpoint. 104 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:44.120 Go ahead, okay, ready, uh for young anybody out there 105 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.000 that's a young coach or this and then I I've 106 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.959 shared it with my coach, my coaches, and with my 107 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:50.759 son who's coaching at the University of make Swore. Now 108 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.600 this is a true story. So I'm at I'm at 109 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:55.279 l A Harvard Junior College in Los Angeles on a 110 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:58.160 thirty man roster. Number one is the best player on 111 00:04:58.199 --> 00:04:59.920 the team. Number two is the second best. Three four 112 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.759 If I said, the thirtieth man is a young guy 113 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:06.680 man named Jeff Turchie. Okay, he's now a very Successfuldnnist 114 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:08.600 in Orange County. But Jeff Turchi, so he comes to 115 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:09.959 me all the time. I say, hey, loas we you 116 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:12.639 hip ground balls me before practice? Will you throw BP? 117 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.680 Will you hit within? All these things. I'm twenty two 118 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:17.480 years old, and I'm going, yeah, why I do that? 119 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:19.800 The head coach even came to me one day, I said, 120 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:23.160 why are you working with this guy? He's never gonna play. 121 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:25.079 I said, yeah, I know, but you know he asked me. 122 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.199 And this is a credit to my mother, my father, 123 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:30.360 my grandmother. They always taught me, you befriend the guy 124 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:33.120 that's not the rumpeter guy. So I did that the 125 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:36.120 whole year. Right, we played for the state championship. I 126 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:39.079 bet you Jeff played maybe five games and had maybe 127 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:42.920 four bats, right, Okay, laid any defensive replacement or whatever. 128 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:45.399 So the season ends and I'm going, hey, I'm not 129 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:46.959 doing this. I'm not making any money, so I'm going 130 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:48.519 to go back on the docks. I'm not figuring out 131 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:49.920 what I'm gonna do. So now I'm thinking about getting 132 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:51.800 my real estate light chains. I'm doing all these things 133 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:53.959 and I get a call at my home. Now, this 134 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:57.000 is nineteen seventy six, seventy seven, seventy eight. 135 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:57.600 Maybe seventy eight. 136 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:02.519 No, no phone, sty I pick up the phone. 137 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:04.680 I hear, is this Andy Lopez? 138 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:06.680 Well, buddy of mine, Bobby Ramirez and I we would 139 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:08.360 play jokes on each other and say, hey, this is 140 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.759 Bill Smith with the Cincinnati Reds. Hey meet me at 141 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:13.720 the at Peck Park in San Pedro at ten o'clock. 142 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:15.079 I said, I'm going to give you a workout, maybe 143 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.639 I'll sign you a contract. So I think it's Bobby Ramirez. 144 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:19.839 I say, hey, Bobby, nice, try hang up the phone. 145 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:22.639 It's a true story. So I start walking away and 146 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:26.319 the phone rings again and I hear, is this Andrew Lopez? 147 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.160 Is Andrew Lopez? Well, I was only called Andrew in 148 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:33.279 my life. I was in trouble. Yeah, So I said, ooh, 149 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:35.879 excuse me, sir, I'm sorry, Yes, this is Andy. And 150 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:37.600 I thought this was a prank, called that a well 151 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:41.160 long story shirt. This gentleman says, I'm Dick Jacobson, superintendent 152 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:43.160 of school South Bay Union High School District, which is 153 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:47.000 in southern California, matt In Beach, Elsagundo, Torrence Ridondo. 154 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:48.920 On that by the airport, he. 155 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:51.680 Says, I'm looking to hire a baseball coach, football coach, 156 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:55.319 rush offt football, varsity baseball, and teach five classes of 157 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:56.399 freshman Spanish. 158 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:57.800 I said, I. 159 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.600 Got no job right, twenty two? Yeah, I'm twenty two. 160 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:02.120 And I said, well listen, I'm interested, but I don't 161 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:04.319 have a teaching credential. He said, well, let's meet next week. 162 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:06.720 So we meet and when I get there, he's got 163 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:09.519 an emergency credential. All mapped out. I go to this 164 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:11.920 junior college in La. Then I go to La Kel 165 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:13.879 State in LA. But I got to go to school 166 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:16.519 all summer. Now I'm having this meeting in June. School 167 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:20.199 starts in September out in LA after Labor Day. So anyway, 168 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.000 I take the job right But as I'm walking out 169 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:25.720 of his office, I say yes to the job. So 170 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:27.040 I'm going to do it, and I ended up doing 171 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:28.839 I started as the high school I did for five years. 172 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.879 As I'm walking out, I said, mister Jacobs said, can 173 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:31.800 I ask you a quick question? 174 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:33.120 Yeah? What's up? Great? 175 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.360 Lesson? Great, lesson. This is how I got into coaching, 176 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:39.160 he says. I said, how did you get my name 177 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:42.879 a number? He said, well, my dentist is Mark Turchie. 178 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:44.160 This is right. 179 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.560 I'm getting my teeth worked on the other day, and 180 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:47.360 he asked how I was doing. 181 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:48.759 I said, I'm doing good, but I got to hire 182 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:49.560 a baseball coach. 183 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:53.879 Mark Turchie is the father of Jeff Turchie, the kid 184 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:56.439 I worked with every day before and after practice. 185 00:07:56.480 --> 00:08:00.759 Now, if i'd have blown him off, sure, yeah, those long. 186 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:02.839 I mean, you're working on the dogs. 187 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:05.680 Don't know. You were telling me this something. And there's 188 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:07.360 three people already that I know. You have to say 189 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:10.560 thank you to the guy who told you. To the 190 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:13.000 first guy who stirred you away. There was two of them. 191 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:14.560 There was two of them, and then you went somewhere 192 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:18.000 else and then this guy, there's three of them. You know, 193 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.720 to go here there. This is a butterfly effect. Yeah, 194 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:22.639 where you know this, this and that and then here 195 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:25.519 you are. Right. So, so is he still around? 196 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:27.199 Who's that mister? You missed? 197 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:27.879 The dentist. 198 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.360 Yeah, yeah, he's still out there. Yeah, still out there. Well, 199 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:32.879 the kids doing well. I don't know if his father's 200 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:33.240 still well. 201 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:35.279 Oh yeah, but the kid is doing well. 202 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.759 He's doing well. He's he's a very successful dnist in 203 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:40.360 Orange County. And yeah, we communicate every now and then. 204 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:42.679 Didn't you write some books, didn't you? I wrote one 205 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.200 after the National champion. When you win the National champions 206 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.039 you're the flavor of the hot, right. You got answers 207 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:50.919 everything you can solve world peace from Pepperdine or did 208 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.679 you do it for Okay? It started at Pepperdine, the book, yes, 209 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:55.720 but you didn't finish it. 210 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:57.120 Finish it in Florida. 211 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:59.399 In fact, if anybody got it, it's not I don't 212 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:01.759 think it's in the pub case anymore. It's funny because 213 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.679 I started it was started at Pepperdine ninety two. We 214 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.559 win the national championship in ninety four is my last 215 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:09.679 year there for two years. So you can see how 216 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:13.799 quick I wasn't doing it? Okay, I had a ghost writer. 217 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:16.360 What was this was the premise of the book. It 218 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:22.279 was called Coaching Baseball Successfully about Baseball. It was about me. Yeah, 219 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:25.200 so every every every chapter was a little bit about 220 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.720 my background and then you know why we did the 221 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.559 things we did, and yeah, etattat cetera and drills and 222 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:33.559 all these other things, but philosophies and the whole thing. Okay, ahead, okay, 223 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:36.279 So so I take the job to Florida in ninety five, 224 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.600 I'm off to Angel, Florida, nineteen ninety five. I finished 225 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:44.440 the book in ninety six, okay, and and I vowed 226 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:47.200 I'd never do another one. It took me forever, but 227 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:51.200 I finished the book in ninety six. And there's pictures 228 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:55.399 of guys in Florida baseball uniforms all over the book. 229 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:56.840 Because I was at Florida the time. 230 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:59.840 So there's Pepperdine guys and there's Florida guys in it. 231 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:02.519 Sometimes it gets a little confusing, but it went well 232 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:03.000 for a while. 233 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.639 And you know I mean it. You know I did 234 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:07.039 not make a lot of money on it. I can 235 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:07.440 tell you that. 236 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:10.039 Yeah, No, No. One of the mysteries of books is 237 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.840 there's no money unless your bill. Unless you're Bill Clinton 238 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:14.600 or Donald Trust, they're going to pay you a million 239 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:17.120 dollar advance. Other than that, you're saying, okay, twenty five, 240 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:19.600 you're like Pete Diddy or somebody. I shouldn't say that 241 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.279 with the guy with with things in your trunk, say hey, 242 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.039 you want to buy a book. You know I give 243 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.559 you a discount. You know you buy them for ten bucks, 244 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:27.320 you sell it for twelve. 245 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:29.120 Let me put it this way, we get our with 246 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:30.240 the residual checks. 247 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:30.600 Yeah. 248 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.000 On the every month. My wife and I in Florida 249 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:36.279 and she go, here's another one. Yeah, and go, hey, 250 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:37.879 that's twenty five dollars in bad. 251 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.200 Long John Silver's here we come. Yeah, yeah, no, no, 252 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:43.279 hear what one of the reasons why you're here? You 253 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.519 tell the greatest stories. I think you have a better book, book, 254 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:49.559 better book inside you. Mike Kendred. We talk about this 255 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.000 all the time with him having a book because he has, 256 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:55.519 you know, eight titles, A lot of people who love him. 257 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:58.080 You do because you're you got a great story to tell. 258 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:00.559 You just do the way you grew up where you're at. 259 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.639 How you butterfly effect. Come on, if you had you 260 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:05.039 not taking care of that kid. 261 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:06.080 I don't know what I'd be. 262 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:09.399 It's just like these things happen. Yeah, these things happened. 263 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.399 SA mean, I got here, I stayed, but a lot 264 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:12.600 of people along the way have helped me. 265 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.159 And then I tried to get out of coaching three times. 266 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.320 Where let's see, I took the Dominga's Hill I was 267 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:21.879 at America's High school for five years and then I 268 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:24.039 got offered the Kelctate Domingu's Hills job, which is a 269 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.720 Division two program in Los Angeles, and it was an 270 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.279 absolute nightmare there. Just it was the worst job a 271 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:32.720 man could take in his life. I said no to 272 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:34.519 it for three days in a row. My dad. I 273 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:37.240 went to see my dad one day and I told him, hey, Dad, 274 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:39.559 I got this Dominga's Hills job offered. I told him 275 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:41.440 everything that was wrong with the job. There was no 276 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:44.960 money for assistant coaches. You had to teach four lecture classes. 277 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:48.240 There was no irrigation on the infil. I dragged the field. 278 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.039 I dragged the field every day before practicing, after practice 279 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:55.240 with my own car, in my own car. The crips 280 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:58.679 and the Bloods. This is a true story. People think 281 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.360 I lie about this. If anybody wants to challenge out 282 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.919 of this, you need to call Steve and he'll give 283 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:05.879 you my number, and I'll let you talk to my wife, 284 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.159 because why I got married my second year there. 285 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:09.039 She lived to help you. 286 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:12.559 The crips in the blood stole our equipment on a 287 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:16.840 nightly basis. So I put all of our equipment, every 288 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.879 piece of baseball equipment, in the back of my little 289 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:24.200 hot my little Jetta. It was a GMC jetta. I'm 290 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:27.559 not a Jedda this little hatchback. I put it in 291 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.399 the back, so I dragged the field of my car 292 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:31.200 and then I put all the equipment in the back 293 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:33.360 of my car and drove it home, then drove it 294 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:34.639 back and take it out. 295 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:36.919 And that was my routine every day. 296 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:38.919 I would think that you'd need a look, a small 297 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:40.879 pinto or something like that, just to kind of take it. 298 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:43.960 Out of unblu. Like I said, not one penny for 299 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.519 assistant coaches. At that time, the nc DOUBLEA allotted fifteen 300 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:51.679 scholarships to a Division two Division one NCAA baseball. 301 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.440 I had one and a third. That was what the 302 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:56.120 university game. 303 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:59.519 That's not you guys worked magic because of the scholarship limits. Yeah, 304 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.879 and all other sports like that where football gets all these 305 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:06.440 and you have like fifteen or not even fifteen seven 306 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:07.480 seconds now, which is good. 307 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.360 I'm happy for chipping those guys. It's changing. 308 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:12.639 But anyway, I did that for a while, and about 309 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:15.639 my third year there, I was offered a job. I 310 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:17.399 was going to be the director of Athletes and Action 311 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:20.320 Christian Organization. They were going to send me to Colorado Springs, 312 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:22.600 put us up in a home. It was all set 313 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:25.200 and I said yes, and my wife was out shopping. 314 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:27.960 She came home and I said, Linda, we're set free, man. 315 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:30.919 We're going to Colorado Springs. We had one you know, 316 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.039 I have four kids. My first daughter was born at 317 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:36.480 that time. And she said, what are you talking about. 318 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:39.120 I said, I took the job today from you know, 319 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:40.960 I took the job. This is my last year to me. 320 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.399 She was back to the job and she didn't like that. 321 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:45.240 She said, you know, we need to pray about this 322 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:48.000 as a couple. So we prayed about it a couple 323 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:50.000 of times that night, and I woke up the next 324 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:51.159 morning and I had to call the general. 325 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:52.799 We say, I'm not taking that job. 326 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:56.039 And then another time, in nineteen ninety one, I was 327 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.480 offered a management position. What happens. I had a player 328 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:00.840 at Pepperdine. I took the Pepperdine. I'm in eighty nine. 329 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:02.919 There was a player on that program that first year. 330 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:05.080 I'd heard the program and he was kind of a 331 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:07.440 kind of a rough edge kid, and I, you know, 332 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:09.399 I was I was a very demanding coach. I'm not 333 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.360 gonna apologize for it, but I was very demanding on 334 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:14.200 the field. And he got his life in order and 335 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:16.120 it impressed his dad. So his dad came and he 336 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:18.159 took me to lunch. In nineteen ninety one, I was 337 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:20.480 at Pepperdine. I was at Pepperdine in eighty nine, ninety ninety, 338 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:22.279 my third year there, and he says, hey, I'm going 339 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.759 to offer you a management position, your own office, and 340 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.240 ready for this, a fifteen thousand dollars. 341 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:30.759 Raise from my salary. Yeah. So I'm thinking this is 342 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:31.600 an answer to prayer. 343 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:35.799 I'm out of here, right, I'm getting out, and I 344 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.919 go home and I tell my wife and she goes, oh, 345 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:41.080 let's pray about Like, oh, Linda, No, come on, you know, 346 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.519 come on, you know we're both we both are born 347 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.120 again Christians. I said, hey, come on, this is this 348 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.200 is too good to be true. I don't have to 349 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.440 recruit anymore. I don't have to worry about winning forty games. 350 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:51.440 Yeah, thank you very much. 351 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:53.559 Yeah, and I'm gonna get a fifteen thousand dollars race. 352 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:56.039 Come on, Lynn, what we gotta pray about? And the 353 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:57.799 next one I won't go to. Oh my god, I'm 354 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:00.399 not taking this job. Oh guess what happens next year 355 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:02.080 nineteen ninety two, you. 356 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.200 Get the job at pepper where you win the title. 357 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:06.320 We win the national team win the title. Yeah, so 358 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:07.480 I would have left the year early. 359 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:10.919 And again again, your your path would have been different. 360 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.720 As we're flying home on the charter jet from Omaha, Nebraska, 361 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:15.759 we just won a smaller school they ever win a 362 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.799 national title, only three thousand students, no football program of 363 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:23.039 Pepperin only three sounds, three thousands enrollment. My wife nudges 364 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:24.679 me and says, hey, you probably need to stay in 365 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:25.080 this job. 366 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:27.559 That's for a little while longer. Okay, we gotta go. 367 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:29.759 We had to even mentioned the guests. We're gonna We're 368 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:32.559 gonna talk to Larry Gilman, a former TV guy in Cincinnati, 369 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:35.879 while Pete Rose was a player and a coach, I 370 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:37.960 think for sure a player. And then we're gonna talk 371 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:40.039 to Donnie Salem at the four to fifteen hour. If 372 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:44.799 you paid attention to our social it's reversed. So Gilman 373 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:48.200 will come on first and then Donnie Salemon. Donnie Salem 374 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.720 will be afterward. Let's take the break. 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