Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to the show for a special
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Live. A few things before we get started.
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Speaker 1: after is the Odyssey Conference being put on by Tony
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Speaker 1: I'll see you there. I'll be there as well. I'll
Speaker 1: actually be hosting a speaker panel that's gonna be broadcasted
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Speaker 1: those details. Anyway, So this is a been a long
Speaker 1: time coming. Many of you may know JP, but for
Speaker 1: those of you don't, we're gonna For those of you
Speaker 1: who don't, we're gonna get into his story and thoroughly
Speaker 1: kind of deep dive into who he is and where
Speaker 1: he came from and how he found his way into
Speaker 1: becoming or even enlisting in the army and then becoming
Speaker 1: a whistleblower and what he's seen and participated in as
Speaker 1: far as classified projects go, and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: JP is how most people know him. His name is
Speaker 1: Jorge Paban and he recently came forward with his identity
Speaker 1: and he just did a big podcast on Redacted, which
Speaker 1: was a two part interview which he kind of went
Speaker 1: through and broke down everything there as well. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna dive a little deeper this time and have a
Speaker 1: lot of fun and we're just very excited to have
Speaker 1: you here with us live tonight. How you doing, JP,
Speaker 1: I'm doing good.
Speaker 2: I'm really happy to be here to bring the love
Speaker 2: and to share the truth of what's really happening out
Speaker 2: there in the military community and also civilian sector.
Speaker 1: Right, And yeah, so I guess let's just dive straight in.
Speaker 1: I learned about you actually before I knew who you were.
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, Aaron and I were at a conference
Speaker 1: in Colorado where doctor Salas spoke Dimensions of Disclosure, and
Speaker 1: he was talking about this military that you weren't in
Speaker 1: the military, I don't believe yet. He was talking about
Speaker 1: this contact that he had who was getting these clear
Speaker 1: photos of these UFOs and these black triangle crafts, and
Speaker 1: he was showing some of those pictures back in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: had no idea that it was you obviously, and you know,
Speaker 1: so that's how I looking back on it, that's where
Speaker 1: I first learned about you. And I guess what, how
Speaker 1: did that even start? So where were you at in
Speaker 1: life to where you started getting the nudge to look
Speaker 1: up and take a picture and these craft were appearing
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 2: Well, I always had an experience since I was like
Speaker 2: nine in New York, but it stopped once I went
Speaker 2: to Brazil. And this is when I'm a civilian, right.
Speaker 2: I went to Brazil and I had a contact with uh,
Speaker 2: with the Nordic if you want to call him Nordic
Speaker 2: or age or inter dimensional being. For me, I feel
Speaker 2: when you get close to them, you feel a sense
Speaker 2: of peace. So I feel like they're angels for me.
Speaker 2: But yes, they look Nordic, you know, ets exratressholds. Of course,
Speaker 2: the Bible says that angels are not from this world,
Speaker 2: They're from a different realm.
Speaker 3: But in Brazil, I had a contact in the farm.
Speaker 2: I approached the ship at three o'clock in the morning
Speaker 2: and I touched it and everything. All my hairs went
Speaker 2: up and I felt like a metallic taste and I
Speaker 2: closed my eyes. I opened my eyes, and I was
Speaker 2: back in the farm and I could see my footsteps
Speaker 2: coming back. And when I came back to the States,
Speaker 2: so I stayed in Brazil for.
Speaker 3: A month to visit my wife's family over there, and
Speaker 3: I had that experience, you know.
Speaker 2: And I come from a Christian background, so my background,
Speaker 2: you know, I go to church and I still go
Speaker 2: to church. You know, I will never leave that portion
Speaker 2: of my life. But when I came back, I didn't
Speaker 2: know who to talk to. I was lost, I was I.
Speaker 3: Was actually scared, a little bit scared.
Speaker 2: H I found his number from Hawaii and it was
Speaker 2: doctor Michael Salah. I I think he did research with ets,
Speaker 2: and he's you know, he did research on that field.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask him about you know, contact,
Speaker 2: so I told him what happened. But before that, before
Speaker 2: I called doctor sala, I was getting picked up by
Speaker 2: military because my where I lived was in Tampa, Florida,
Speaker 2: right by McDill Air Force Base, and I was getting
Speaker 2: picked up in the meanie man and they brought me
Speaker 2: to near the base and they started interrogating me about
Speaker 2: my experience in Brazil interacting with these ets extra treacials,
Speaker 2: and the first time they interrogated me. I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you guys talking about. But when
Speaker 2: they kept like pushing and picking me up and I
Speaker 2: was losing hours, I almost lost my job because they
Speaker 2: picked me up because I used to walk to work
Speaker 2: and they picked me up and they keep me there
Speaker 2: for hours, and I don't know what to tell my boss.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm getting picked up by crazy people asking
Speaker 2: me about aliens ets and.
Speaker 1: So really quick, you were walking on the side, you
Speaker 1: were walking to work, and a van would pull up
Speaker 1: and literally pick you up physically and take you.
Speaker 3: It's like they knew.
Speaker 2: It's like they knew where I was the whole time,
Speaker 2: or they've been tracking me.
Speaker 3: So every time I walk out out mid.
Speaker 2: Mid like where I get to my work, it's like
Speaker 2: what two miles walk? So I used to walk two
Speaker 2: miles every morning to go to work, and they picked me.
Speaker 3: Up like a mile in and like four guys come out.
Speaker 3: They're lock and loaded. They're like get inside the van.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh crap. You know, Tampa is known to
Speaker 3: have like the history of mafia and all that. So
Speaker 3: behind my head, I'm like.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna get concrete feet, all right, These
Speaker 2: guys are gonna get rid of me.
Speaker 3: So, but when when studying, where were they're taking me?
Speaker 2: Where they were taking me and why they were doing
Speaker 2: what they're doing. They were asking me about how I
Speaker 2: contacted these beings or how did I what did they
Speaker 2: wanted or you know, they really want to know about
Speaker 2: the ship and how I contacted them, because apparently they
Speaker 2: knew that.
Speaker 3: When I'm working or something, I hum and I and I.
Speaker 2: Start singing or I do it, I get to a
Speaker 2: type of meditation that I can bring them down. So
Speaker 2: I think they started figuring out that I had that
Speaker 2: ability to bring these ships down.
Speaker 3: But me, I did not know I was doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm now in these past two or three years, I'm
Speaker 2: figuring out that, yeah, I can get to a state
Speaker 2: of mind and I figured to to connect with them
Speaker 2: and to connect with these orbs or connect with these
Speaker 2: Nordic beings that come out and they connect with me.
Speaker 2: There's a way to do it. And I guess so
Speaker 2: they were.
Speaker 1: So they were picking you up and interrograting you. At
Speaker 1: what point did they start giving you the nudge to
Speaker 1: look up and take a picture of a craft. Didn't
Speaker 1: something like that happen?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, right there. That was in Tampa also, so
Speaker 2: that started in the end part when I was living
Speaker 2: in Tampa because from Tampa I moved to Orlando. So
Speaker 2: and this was I think recently when Trump was running
Speaker 2: for presidency and he was about to establish Space Force.
Speaker 2: Well he won the presidency and NOI he won in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, right.
Speaker 1: That was the first mission twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, he won in twenty sixteen. So all this started
Speaker 2: happening towards the end part of the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: Okay, first invite, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's first term.
Speaker 2: About the soldiers coming up, because the ones that were
Speaker 2: interrogating me, I don't think they were friendly. I think
Speaker 2: these were the black hats, who we call the black cats.
Speaker 2: But there was other soldiers coming out in uniform and
Speaker 2: they were telling me. Also they come out in different
Speaker 2: types of vehicles, different types of mini van, and they're.
Speaker 3: Like scoo over here. I'm like, oh, these guys they
Speaker 3: don't want to leave me alone.
Speaker 2: Hey, in this time, in this particular time, we want
Speaker 2: you to get your phone and take pictures. Okay, and
Speaker 2: it's gonna be like in this location right here, take
Speaker 2: pictures and whatever picture you get make sure you send
Speaker 2: it out, and they probably knew I was talking to
Speaker 2: doctor Michael Sala already, right, because I kept documenting everything
Speaker 2: that was happening with me, my experiences, because in between
Speaker 2: I had a lot of the experien like little weird
Speaker 2: experiences connecting with UFOs and Nordic beings, and they kind
Speaker 2: of knew I was connecting with them because I was
Speaker 2: getting visited by orbs and all that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I remember you guys went to that conference.
Speaker 2: Throughout that time, I already took pictures of a lot
Speaker 2: and the Tampa Bay Times already published some of doctor
Speaker 2: Sala's article and all that, and doctor Salah was talking
Speaker 2: about my experience and all that. And I remember even
Speaker 2: in that conference where you guys were, I was talking,
Speaker 2: like I talked to David Wilcock two hours about my experience.
Speaker 3: And before that, I think I was emailing a lot
Speaker 3: of people. He was one of the guys I.
Speaker 2: Was emailing with some of my experiences. And throughout that time,
Speaker 2: there was a lot of confusion with the community of disclosure.
Speaker 3: I know, you guys know probably.
Speaker 1: There still is too, so so really really quick, so
Speaker 1: whenever you were told to okay at this time, look
Speaker 1: up and take a picture. Did that shock you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Were you like, did you well explain that a little more?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it shocked the hell out of me. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: was really why they're why if random people.
Speaker 2: Coming up to me saying, hey, go take pictures. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm like, leave me alone, man, let me work. Because
Speaker 2: I used to work two jobs. I was installing cameras
Speaker 2: and I was dealing with the power pumps of pools,
Speaker 2: so I will you know, I dealt with water purification
Speaker 2: systems and pools. So I was like, why these guys
Speaker 2: bothered me? And you know, they should be leaving me alone.
Speaker 2: And but every time they told me to take a
Speaker 2: picture and I looked up, you saw a craft light up,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, holy, okay, let me take these pictures.
Speaker 2: But I felt peace with these guys. These guys I
Speaker 2: considered them like the white hats. They wanted this information out.
Speaker 2: But you had another aggressive.
Speaker 3: Type that, oh, you know this is not good for you.
Speaker 3: Don't do it. You know, it's do not take pictures.
Speaker 3: I don't know who's telling you to do it or
Speaker 3: how you're getting these pictures, but stop.
Speaker 2: So it was back and forth with these guys we
Speaker 2: had the good guys and we had the bad guys.
Speaker 2: I consider the bad guys that don't want this information
Speaker 2: to come out, and I consider the good guys. Yes,
Speaker 2: this information come out. So I don't know in that moment,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was classified or unclassified the
Speaker 2: stuff I was doing. But I was taking pictures of
Speaker 2: these UFOs or UAPs and these orbs and my experiences,
Speaker 2: and I was sending it straight to doctor.
Speaker 3: Sala, and I was sending it to somebody else.
Speaker 2: That I met, and he stayed in contact with me
Speaker 2: for a long time until he passed me to another
Speaker 2: dude that gives me the green light. So if something
Speaker 2: did happen to me, these people they have my information
Speaker 2: and they have my pictures and all that, because there's
Speaker 2: much more that I have, but because of the security
Speaker 2: of this nation, I can't I can't release yet.
Speaker 1: So at what point did you enlist in the army?
Speaker 1: What made you decide to want to join the army?
Speaker 1: And then what year was that.
Speaker 2: This was the end of twenty I think twenty twenty
Speaker 2: or twenty twenty one. I don't know the exact years
Speaker 2: right now, but yeah, I did four years and a
Speaker 2: half in the Army as a paratrooper, and I was
Speaker 2: a ninety one Juliet and I was another different type
Speaker 2: of MOS then I can't disclose yet, but in my
Speaker 2: DD fourteen it shows different duty stations, so people can
Speaker 2: put one one together and they can figure out what
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: But I think soon will I will say what it was.
Speaker 2: The other job that I did, I worked in NASA
Speaker 2: for a couple of months as well. I got all
Speaker 2: those documents. I even got the marine the Navy marine
Speaker 2: metal actually in the NASA base, so you can see
Speaker 2: my Navy marine metal there in the NASA.
Speaker 3: Base when I received when I was working over there.
Speaker 2: So I was living in Orlando, and these guys show up,
Speaker 2: the good guys.
Speaker 3: It says, hey, we need you to join.
Speaker 2: If you don't want these other guys to keep bothering you,
Speaker 2: we want you to join, And.
Speaker 3: All behind my back.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about my family and the safety of
Speaker 2: my wife and the safety of the people around me.
Speaker 2: Why I sat down with my wife said Babe, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to because she was always with me left
Speaker 2: to right with these experience.
Speaker 3: Even she had an experience.
Speaker 2: About I don't know if they interrogated her she still
Speaker 2: don't want to tell me, but I'm going to say
Speaker 2: here on this show.
Speaker 3: My wife was.
Speaker 2: The first Brazilian to sing for presidential candidate the national anthem. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know how she got the gig, but she
Speaker 2: got the gig. And since that day forward, other people
Speaker 2: have been following us and all that, and that's why
Speaker 2: we moved to Orlando because it was getting really scary.
Speaker 2: So how is somebody inviting her to sing for a
Speaker 2: presidential can And I'm going to tell you who this
Speaker 2: candidate is and we don't agree, but she decided to
Speaker 2: sing it just to give honor for the national anthem,
Speaker 2: and it was Hillary Clinton. And I got all the
Speaker 2: papers and all that she was in the room with
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton for like thirty or forty minutes talking to
Speaker 2: her or I don't know what she was asking my wife.
Speaker 3: They talked and after that, I think I never told
Speaker 3: this to nobody.
Speaker 2: The only one that knows this is doctor Michael Sala,
Speaker 2: and he has this, I think documented.
Speaker 3: And all that.
Speaker 2: I like to tell people about that, but I found
Speaker 2: it kind of weird, you know, about the whole situation,
Speaker 2: me having these experiences, my wife singing for her and
Speaker 2: everything like there was just I think there were scoping
Speaker 2: everything that we were doing or the connection that I
Speaker 2: was having I feel, you know. So they approached me
Speaker 2: and said, hey, join the military. So I first went
Speaker 2: to the Marines and they made me run like five
Speaker 2: miles the first day and I threw up and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh crap, this is not for me, this is not
Speaker 2: for me. So I went to.
Speaker 3: I went to.
Speaker 2: The Guard then I went to the Army and I
Speaker 2: had my ASRAD tests and after that they said, hey,
Speaker 2: if you want to leave.
Speaker 3: In two months, you can leave in two months. I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, stamp it, let me go.
Speaker 2: So after I joined, when I was in basics training,
Speaker 2: COVID hit and we were stuck in training in Fort Jackson.
Speaker 2: All these soldiers were stuck and we were the first
Speaker 2: first soldiers in the history of the Army that did
Speaker 2: not have a full graduation because of COVID, and it
Speaker 2: was still recorded. I have the DVDs of our graduation
Speaker 2: all that, but the bleachers were empty because of COVID nineteen.
Speaker 3: Then from Fort Jackson we went to Fort Lee, Virginia.
Speaker 2: Fort Lee, Virginia, that's where you do your mos your
Speaker 2: job and the jobs.
Speaker 3: That they give you to do.
Speaker 2: And then from there I went to Fort Benning, Georgia
Speaker 2: for Airborne School. That was crazy as well, because when
Speaker 2: you go to airborn school, you go with Marines, recon
Speaker 2: soon to be Marines, soon to be Green Berets, soon
Speaker 2: to be rangers. They approached me to be a Green Beret.
Speaker 2: They approached me to be a Ranger. I said, hey,
Speaker 2: I just want to be a paratrooper for now.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hit the tan Berets or the
Speaker 3: Green Berets.
Speaker 2: Tam Berets are rangers, the Green Berets are Special Forces operations.
Speaker 2: So after Airborne school, I get my papers and it
Speaker 2: says seven special for I'm like, I'm not even I'm
Speaker 2: not even a Green Beret. Why am I going there?
Speaker 3: You know? And it was in Florida, so hitting that
Speaker 3: duty station was like hitting the lottery. A lot of
Speaker 3: Drew sargeants told me, hey, how the heck you got that? Dude, Like,
Speaker 3: I've been.
Speaker 2: Here for almost twenty years and I've been wanting that
Speaker 2: duty station for years, and I how do you get that?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, you know, I do know
Speaker 2: three languages and it's part of South Comb. So I
Speaker 2: know Portuguese, Spanish and English and other languages as well,
Speaker 2: and it is part of South Comb. They're in charge
Speaker 2: of whatever what happened right now in Venezuela. So once
Speaker 2: I joined, UH, I was part of the Seventh Group.
Speaker 2: That is the best group that we have. God bless
Speaker 2: our troops. They do a beautiful job, you know. And
Speaker 2: I totally respect the military. I would never do nothing
Speaker 2: negative towards the military. I really trust. I really trust
Speaker 2: the process of what I went through. And I always
Speaker 2: tell people I'm not a recruiter, but I always tell
Speaker 2: people join. If you know nothing to do in your
Speaker 2: life and you're nineteen and you know, join the military.
Speaker 2: You know you will probably have an experience like mine.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you will, but you probably will, you know.
Speaker 2: So I joined seventh Group, and from there on the
Speaker 2: mission started popping up left to right, left right.
Speaker 1: So did you have to sign any NDAs anything? Okay,
Speaker 1: explain that. So whenever you first started to get into
Speaker 1: this stuff, Okay, you find out you were seventh Group
Speaker 1: Special Forces and you have to sign NDA's next and
Speaker 1: where you read in on any classified programs? Like what
Speaker 1: did that that work?
Speaker 2: Like I was told about programs on the point.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of weird how they do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, you can't talk about certain technologies that we have,
Speaker 2: but you could talk about like if somebody that is
Speaker 2: higher rank, right, and he tells you, hey, you got
Speaker 2: the green lights to talk about this, but you don't
Speaker 2: have the green lights to talk about this whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't talk about that was in my NDA, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: you know, so it is weird. I know a lot
Speaker 3: of people are like.
Speaker 2: Oh, this guy, you know, why is he allowed to
Speaker 2: say that he went to certain places or on the ground.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's weird that he's allowed. I don't
Speaker 3: know why.
Speaker 2: You know what the age of disclosures came out that
Speaker 2: that movie, right, And I am just a lower rank,
Speaker 2: you know, I got out with E four, but I
Speaker 2: shared a document that shows that probably something about a
Speaker 2: war officer too, Okay, So I don't know why I
Speaker 2: got that document, but I made a copy and I
Speaker 2: saved it, and then apparently they did a mistake and
Speaker 2: they kept calling me sir, and then they kept calling
Speaker 2: me a specialist. So somewhere in the system that I
Speaker 2: don't recall, I was a war officer too.
Speaker 3: But but I have the documents.
Speaker 1: So that's so that basically requires a clearance that you
Speaker 1: didn't have that you consciously remember. But in that documentation
Speaker 1: it says you're a war officer and they were calling
Speaker 1: you sir and like. So it seems to me like
Speaker 1: you potentially were involved in something that you don't have
Speaker 1: full recall of obviously, and you maybe weren't even supposed
Speaker 1: to see that form, or it was somebody arranged it
Speaker 1: so you would see it to help trigger that memory.
Speaker 1: There could be things there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: I remember my experiences, but during I was doing my experiences,
Speaker 2: I don't know that was A four or a war officer.
Speaker 3: You know, doing these missions. So I I, I'm.
Speaker 4: Sure there's like a I think you're onto something because
Speaker 4: there is something about NDA is about.
Speaker 2: Being a certain rank in order to talk about certain situations.
Speaker 2: So if I left as an E four but having
Speaker 2: my experiences as an officer, but then come back as
Speaker 2: a E four, it could be possible that I.
Speaker 3: Signed other nbas here as well.
Speaker 2: But see, I never got into I never got into
Speaker 2: the you know, like if I was twenty and back
Speaker 2: or fifteen back or ten in back.
Speaker 3: Because for me, that was always out of this world,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: But when I was recapping about all my experiences and
Speaker 2: all that and remembering my experiences, and then I went
Speaker 2: even into a place somewhere in the United States where
Speaker 2: they can manipulate space and time and.
Speaker 3: I could see what they can do.
Speaker 2: That's when I went, Wow, they probably they probably used
Speaker 2: me like a bucket because the things I remember are.
Speaker 3: Insane.
Speaker 2: Imagine the things that I don't remember or what it was.
Speaker 2: So whatever they let me remember about my experiences, I
Speaker 2: always got the green light to talk about. And they
Speaker 2: always they never made us sign papers before a mission,
Speaker 2: So that's that's one thing I want to make clear.
Speaker 3: They never made me sign papers.
Speaker 2: But before I left, yes, they made me sign papers,
Speaker 2: but I signed it in a way that was different.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: Or we can use that, we can use our imagination.
Speaker 1: So explain to me this. So there's so many questions, obviously,
Speaker 1: and I know we're just kind of barely scratching on
Speaker 1: the surface here of what you've been involved in. But
Speaker 1: explain to me this place you were brought that can
Speaker 1: manipulate space and time, Like, what did you see or
Speaker 1: you allowed to talk about that?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I saw. I even wrote it here. Well,
Speaker 3: I know we went black right now, there we go.
Speaker 3: Sorry about bad guys this slide.
Speaker 2: So, so I saw different doors right, twenty ninety, the
Speaker 2: year twenty ninety, I saw the year twenty fifty, I
Speaker 2: saw the year nineteen forty, and I saw the year.
Speaker 3: Fifteen sixty.
Speaker 2: In between fifteen sixty and fIF and fifteen fifty, these
Speaker 2: different doors, right, they had the dates on top, and
Speaker 2: what I saw was Nordic beings that looked like us.
Speaker 2: They were in charge of this technology. And there was
Speaker 2: also another like a looking being that wasn't inside a
Speaker 2: type of capsule that was in charge of the communication
Speaker 2: part of it. I think this is an extra thresciods,
Speaker 2: but they live within our oceans and it's a type
Speaker 2: of intelligent.
Speaker 3: Occupy. I don't know what it was, but it looked
Speaker 3: weird for me.
Speaker 2: So it was running around doing other things. And the
Speaker 2: Nordics they were in charge of this machine, so called
Speaker 2: machine that can go to different times, and we could
Speaker 2: see people.
Speaker 3: The guy that was with me, uh, he said, let
Speaker 3: me get that. We need to get the hell out
Speaker 3: of here. We can't see this.
Speaker 2: We need to get we need to get the heck
Speaker 2: out of here because what we're seeing. I don't think
Speaker 2: we should be experiencing this.
Speaker 3: I am nervous right now. I'm scared for my life.
Speaker 2: So the other guy was saying that because the Nordics
Speaker 2: were asking us if we wanted to be part of
Speaker 2: this program to go to these different years and we
Speaker 2: have to do a task and then bring back some information.
Speaker 2: But the problem is that if we do visit the
Speaker 2: fifteen sixties, we have to go without no medication. We
Speaker 2: have to go with the clothes designated for that time.
Speaker 2: Ninety forties is the same thing. Two thousand and fifties,
Speaker 2: two thousand nineties also the same thing. You have to go.
Speaker 3: Dress accordingly of that time.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And we saw people coming back from the.
Speaker 2: Twenty nineties or twenty fifties coming back like with futuristic
Speaker 2: type of technology and clothes and all that, and they
Speaker 2: take off their clothes, they go through a tube thing
Speaker 2: for cleansing, and they come back and they go to
Speaker 2: another year. But every every the the time is different
Speaker 2: in those in those when you go to those dates, uh,
Speaker 2: nine hours can be like what like eight years or
Speaker 2: nine years. So they radio up. They say, hey, if
Speaker 2: something happens to you, we can't bring you back. So
Speaker 2: you have to sign a crapload of papers before going
Speaker 2: to these missions. And if you're you're If you die
Speaker 2: in that time, that's that's you. You know, it is
Speaker 2: up to you to survive, and it is up to
Speaker 2: you if you want to do these missions. And I'm
Speaker 2: sure this technology can be used for for wrong for
Speaker 2: the wrong thing sometimes, but I don't think we use it,
Speaker 2: but I think other people have this technology, like maybe
Speaker 2: China or Russia.
Speaker 1: Was this was this? Uh? Can you disclose what location
Speaker 1: this was at?
Speaker 2: I cannot disclose the location. But I left from Aglin
Speaker 2: Air Force Base on a Chinook helicopter, okay, and it
Speaker 2: took us like two hours two hours flight Okay?
Speaker 1: Interesting? Yeah, because I know Dan Cooper talks about Fort
Speaker 1: Bragg below Fort Bragg there being what he calls temporal
Speaker 1: Management Command, which is where the time time missions are
Speaker 1: you know, happen out of. If that's true, Yes, that's
Speaker 1: go ahead, the f P.
Speaker 2: I f P I, Ay, that's what do you call it?
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what your friends call it?
Speaker 1: What what is? What does that stand for FPI.
Speaker 2: Future Future Past Intelligence Agencies. Oh yeah, that's that's the
Speaker 2: knowledge I got about that. Yeah, the name of these
Speaker 2: programs if the f p I A.
Speaker 1: So this was this one of the first things that
Speaker 1: you encountered.
Speaker 3: Oh no, this was more towards the end.
Speaker 2: I encountered the the Nordics all right, interacting with the
Speaker 2: military and teaching them how to fly the the flying saucers.
Speaker 2: I saw that somewhere in Alabama, and for some reason
Speaker 2: this year last year, Trump moved the space came into Alabama.
Speaker 3: So we have it. We have it all documented. Yeah, Huntsville, Alabama.
Speaker 2: So we have it all documented with doctor salah Ah.
Speaker 2: The things that happens before and the things that Trump
Speaker 2: has been doing is like one after another, you know,
Speaker 2: like one after another, like if you see I know
Speaker 2: people have been talking about mad beds and all that.
Speaker 2: That's also another experience I had, But I posted two
Speaker 2: weeks prior to the Trump posted it after that with
Speaker 2: a similar story, but it was AI but he posted
Speaker 2: it and then he took it out to give it
Speaker 2: more attention.
Speaker 3: So that was kind of.
Speaker 5: Cool, right right right? Do you think do you think
Speaker 5: that's because they're getting ready to roll that out pretty soon.
Speaker 3: I think so. I think we're going to be rolling
Speaker 3: a lot of things out.
Speaker 2: And before before what happened in Venezuela, I even posted
Speaker 2: in my Instagram and also in my YouTube, I posted
Speaker 2: a couple of videos about what's happening. Because we have
Speaker 2: these arcs in the Atlantic, we have these arcs in
Speaker 2: the Pacific, and.
Speaker 3: We have.
Speaker 2: These buried ships all over the place and smaller ones
Speaker 2: people that can probably call it vimanas or ancient ships
Speaker 2: that were buried that they're so old. But the technology
Speaker 2: still works. Somehow, the technology still works. These things are
Speaker 2: alive or is a type of futuristic AI that we
Speaker 2: can't comprehend yet, but it seems like it's organic and
Speaker 2: and I'm sure in the future we're gonna have the
Speaker 2: ability to integrate AI into our body and you know, be.
Speaker 3: Part of one connection like borg or somethhing like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm I don't know. I said a bad word,
Speaker 2: so my bad.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're there's no censorship here, Okay.
Speaker 2: So, before what happened in Venezuela, I put out a
Speaker 2: video saying that yes, the Nordic the arc was in
Speaker 2: between Puerto Rico and Venezuela. And they found also in
Speaker 2: the south part of Venezuela similar structures of what they
Speaker 2: found under the Pyramid of Giza, similar structures of ancient
Speaker 2: ruins under the ground in the south part of Venezuela. Ah,
Speaker 2: closer to like the Amazon, you know, the area over.
Speaker 1: There, right, So that would be like the ultimate power
Speaker 1: grab then for Trump or the United States if for one, of.
Speaker 3: Course, of course the oil, but well the oil.
Speaker 1: You're you're stopping the drugs, you know, obviously liberating, liberating
Speaker 1: with this.
Speaker 2: I'm really happy with this administration and what they're doing.
Speaker 2: They're stopping the bad guys. You know, they paint themselves
Speaker 2: like good guys. But Trump is doing the heck of
Speaker 2: a job with this administration, you know. And and I
Speaker 2: really I know what he's doing. And Trump knows a
Speaker 2: lot of things. He's been in contact with a lot
Speaker 2: of different things. And I think soon disclosure is going
Speaker 2: to happen with the Trump administration.
Speaker 3: I believe so. And it's already happening. You know. We
Speaker 3: had that film Aid of Disclosure.
Speaker 2: We have this other film that's going to come out
Speaker 2: with Steven Spielberg in June that it is going to
Speaker 2: bring a lot of information of what is happening with all.
Speaker 3: This and in reality, all this is is spiritual.
Speaker 2: It connects to the spiritual realm and interdimensional realm like crazy, guys.
Speaker 1: This is yep, you're good, So yeah, go ahead continue.
Speaker 3: Sorry, So.
Speaker 1: You said it connects to a spiritual realm in a
Speaker 1: dimensional realm like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these these beings, I think they're connected to the
Speaker 2: spiritual and interdimensional realm.
Speaker 1: I believe so, right, And a lot of the technology
Speaker 1: that we use are that you've come across. Obviously, I
Speaker 1: think we're seeing a blend of science and spirituality there.
Speaker 1: It's not just tech, right, it's like integrated with the
Speaker 1: beings consciousness.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Even even what quantum communication connects to the interdimensional realm,
Speaker 2: you know, if we get into the study of like
Speaker 2: what is quantum entanglement and quantum physics, you know, right
Speaker 2: now these technologies that we're using is connected, you know.
Speaker 1: Right? So at what point were you well, really quick,
Speaker 1: going back to Venezuela, So do you think that basically
Speaker 1: the white hats for lack of a better term, are
Speaker 1: monitoring you and they are basically seeing what you put
Speaker 1: out there and actually taking that as legitimate intel and
Speaker 1: then making a move based upon that in some capacity.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not just me, right bringing out this information.
Speaker 2: We got other people that are you know, well read
Speaker 2: in and also bringing out information. But I'm sure, I'm
Speaker 2: sure they're looking at our information that we're giving out, like.
Speaker 3: When we go on, when you go on, when I
Speaker 3: go on.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure they're tracking of you know, who
Speaker 2: you guys are interviewing who? Who am I interacting with?
Speaker 2: Why am I allowed to talk about all this?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Right, So, at what point did you or were you
Speaker 1: made aware of off planet operations like getting into this?
Speaker 1: Did you know that we had a base on the
Speaker 1: Moon or did you learn that through your time in
Speaker 1: the military. How did that all play out?
Speaker 2: I kind of felt that we had after I had
Speaker 2: my experience in Brazil and I started doing my own
Speaker 2: my own research when I had my experience interacting with
Speaker 2: these Nordics in Brazil. When I got back home, I
Speaker 2: also was building a technology I was building with a
Speaker 2: USF professor.
Speaker 3: He was a neuro scientist.
Speaker 2: So we're building like a like a wand type of technology.
Speaker 3: To heal a wand that can heal.
Speaker 2: And also technology that was made of a black box
Speaker 2: with a metal.
Speaker 3: That we have the military has that other people with
Speaker 3: high level they have.
Speaker 2: This metal can also if you get, depending how close
Speaker 2: to it you get, if you have a debt plant,
Speaker 2: you put it right next to it and the debt
Speaker 2: plant can revive. And also if you feel sick or
Speaker 2: if you're feeling down and you get close to this device,
Speaker 2: it makes you feel happy, it makes you feel good,
Speaker 2: and it heals you. I think it has to do
Speaker 2: with the frequency and connected with you, with your consciousness.
Speaker 2: And you know, because everything that you think is electrical post,
Speaker 2: everything that happens is everything that you do in life
Speaker 2: is an electrical post.
Speaker 3: So it's connected.
Speaker 2: And then my house got ransacked with the bad guys,
Speaker 2: you know, the black hats, and they took all all
Speaker 2: that technology.
Speaker 1: And this was when you were still in Brazil.
Speaker 2: This was when I was still in when I was
Speaker 2: in Tampa, when I came back. This is at the
Speaker 2: same time I was getting interrogated.
Speaker 3: Okay, So there's a lot.
Speaker 2: Of in between that happened that it's it goes beyond.
Speaker 2: But I think in the three books that doctor Salah
Speaker 2: wrote that he really did a good job tracking and
Speaker 2: everything that I did an experience in book one, two
Speaker 2: and three of US Army Inside Missions.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he like me.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I I don't remember no more.
Speaker 3: It's so much things that happening. And I believe, you know, after.
Speaker 2: I left the military, I think I've been getting attacked
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 3: I've been feeling sick, you know, I've been feeling under
Speaker 3: the weather.
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm here to bring what they're letting
Speaker 2: me to bring.
Speaker 3: I'm not breaking the rules.
Speaker 2: I'm not I know you have here whistleblower, but I'm
Speaker 2: being told what to do and what to say, and
Speaker 2: by a superior person.
Speaker 3: That's connected with Washington, DC.
Speaker 2: And he every time he comes to Egglin calls him,
Speaker 2: I'm here, you got an update whom I tell him
Speaker 2: my experience and he tells me, Okay, you.
Speaker 3: Can say this, you can say this, but make sure
Speaker 3: you don't say this.
Speaker 2: Okay, this you cannot say. You can say certain locations
Speaker 2: where you've been, but don't say that this happened there.
Speaker 2: So he tells me really legitimately what to say and
Speaker 2: my experiences, and I you know, because I was part
Speaker 2: of the military, I have to respect that and I
Speaker 2: trust him as in the white hat.
Speaker 3: I trust him as making the right choice.
Speaker 2: And you know, he's been the person giving me the
Speaker 2: green light to talk about my experiences.
Speaker 1: So okay, there's so many questions.
Speaker 3: I know it gets it redacted.
Speaker 2: I was going crazy because there's so much information in between.
Speaker 2: Remember this has been going on since two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: almost what eighteen years?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? So okay, since so can you tell us
Speaker 1: which underground basis that you've been to? Which one you
Speaker 1: can disclose? And like, is this, you know, planetary all
Speaker 1: over the world just here in the States.
Speaker 2: We have on the ground bases all over our planet.
Speaker 2: I cannot disclose the location. I know other people probably
Speaker 2: have disclosed location, but I just can't. But I can
Speaker 2: tell you about one place where I've been where I
Speaker 2: saw people that.
Speaker 3: Look like that look like the grays or or the
Speaker 3: ant people.
Speaker 2: Like if you take the the dreads that they have away,
Speaker 2: these these things they hang out like this, But if.
Speaker 3: You cut that off, people might confuse them. That's grace
Speaker 3: gray aliens.
Speaker 2: But uh, they just they just when you interact with them,
Speaker 2: they're more organic. They're not like the gray people, the
Speaker 2: grays that people talk about that they're mechanical and all
Speaker 2: that these guys that ant people, and and their color
Speaker 2: is more like a grayish brown color. And but their
Speaker 2: eyes are are are like like really and they look
Speaker 2: oriental like. Their nose is flat and like two slits.
Speaker 2: Their lips are really small, really, their head is like
Speaker 2: slightly big. And you know a lot of I think
Speaker 2: people will confuse them if they see them for the
Speaker 2: first time.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a great alien, you know. But you just
Speaker 3: have to know.
Speaker 1: And where did you encounter them?
Speaker 2: And posts still one over here in Florida. It's a spring.
Speaker 2: So I can tell you the park's name, but the
Speaker 2: entrances I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't give you the location. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1: So can you? How many places just let's just stick
Speaker 1: in the United States? How many places do you believe
Speaker 1: there are that are housing extraterrestrials right now below our feet?
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to say, you don't have
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: We got we got Florida, Okay, we got Texas, we
Speaker 2: got Nevada, we got Colorado, we got California. Off the
Speaker 2: shore of California, we got Puerto Rico south in the ocean,
Speaker 2: north in the ocean. We got the Bermuda Triangle that
Speaker 2: location right there. We got the Devil's Triangle in the
Speaker 2: location off of Hawaii, Alaska. And I'm talking about America only,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure Brazil, I'm sure Russia, I'm sure China.
Speaker 3: Got I just don't have that information.
Speaker 2: I know about the location and and and the basis
Speaker 2: that we are in charge of and Antarctica.
Speaker 5: Okay, And I would assume New Mexico is probably.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, out, New Mexico has like a.
Speaker 3: A major is not like a base though.
Speaker 2: New Medicool is like a it's like an international things
Speaker 2: for for extra thresholds, like Man in Black type of thing,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, there's the famous Dulce base that said at
Speaker 5: least used to have ets and yeah, still does. Uh,
Speaker 5: but that's a fan that's a super famous one.
Speaker 3: New Mexican. Are you talking about the Dreamland? Are you
Speaker 3: talking about the Dreamlands area?
Speaker 5: Fifty one?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: Dulce is like northern northern New Mexico, like almost to
Speaker 5: the Colorado border, like very northern.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay.
Speaker 1: And you have Kurland Air Force Base where some testimonies
Speaker 1: come out of there as well.
Speaker 5: I'm sure Arizona.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say you just you know, just
Speaker 1: you know, throw up the dark land in the Southwest you're.
Speaker 2: Talking about are you talking about major extra treastural cities,
Speaker 2: because the one I named was major. Now, when you
Speaker 2: get into the basis the bases that they interact with,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of states there, like almost every state
Speaker 2: has a small base where extraterrestuals they come.
Speaker 3: In and out from, like almost every every state.
Speaker 2: But like major et cities or underground was the states
Speaker 2: that I mentioned.
Speaker 1: Okay, that helps. Yeah, so yeah, I know, like here
Speaker 1: in Sedona or Arizona, I mean there's a lot of
Speaker 1: military activity and extraterustrial activity. I mean, the whole place
Speaker 1: is just crawling with it. So very interesting. I mean
Speaker 1: I swear I see people walking down the streets sometimes
Speaker 1: that are human. I'm not exaggerating, like you have.
Speaker 3: No you can feel the presence, you can feel them,
Speaker 3: and they look just like us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, get write it off as anything,
Speaker 1: but sometimes like I just I just think that dude's
Speaker 1: not human. You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've seen people shasta as well.
Speaker 1: Right, So okay, going back to we never really answered this,
Speaker 1: but as far as like learning about off world bases,
Speaker 1: and stuff like let's just say basis on the Moon
Speaker 1: where you read in on like we have so many
Speaker 1: bases on the Moon. We have one and the and
Speaker 1: h see off Tranquility and and the and the creator
Speaker 1: of Sabin d you know all these different places. Were
Speaker 1: you briefed on that or that? Is that something that
Speaker 1: you just remember from specific missions?
Speaker 2: I remember from specific missions. They just call you up
Speaker 2: and you go to these missions and and they tell you.
Speaker 3: Don't talk about this or else. You know.
Speaker 2: Uh, so you really got to not talk about what
Speaker 2: they tell you not to talk.
Speaker 1: About, right, But you did. You did go to a
Speaker 1: base on the Moon.
Speaker 3: I did go to a base in the Moon. I did?
Speaker 1: And can you disclose any of that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: We went through these tubes that I think the Moon
Speaker 2: has these tubes, right, a lot of Yeah, and they
Speaker 2: have like a it's like made of when you enter it,
Speaker 2: it's made like a like a copper.
Speaker 3: Like it's a tube that goes in. But this tube
Speaker 3: goes in like.
Speaker 2: This, and then it flattens out and then it goes
Speaker 2: into like a big cavern.
Speaker 3: And then this big cavern is.
Speaker 2: Connected to like ancient ruins that look like the time
Speaker 2: of ancient Rome or ancient India.
Speaker 3: And when I went there, I felt.
Speaker 2: Well that the air was similar to the air when
Speaker 2: you're in the highest mountain in Colorado. Okay, it's it's
Speaker 2: but it's pure, like you feel the peer.
Speaker 3: Of the oxygen.
Speaker 2: I think they get the oxygen from the moon itself.
Speaker 2: It has a lot of.
Speaker 1: It's it's something within the soil. It actually creates its
Speaker 1: own oxygen. Or there's like a plant life or an
Speaker 1: algae that that is exists there that from what I've heard,
Speaker 1: that actually creates an oxygen that's not talked about.
Speaker 3: Well, we have water there too, like crazy on the moon.
Speaker 3: All right, and depending on.
Speaker 2: The Okay, so you get the crater right, So you
Speaker 2: know the crater when the sun hits it, it creates
Speaker 2: a shadow in between. In between that shadow, right, you
Speaker 2: have what it's called the goldieglock. So similar to what
Speaker 2: Earth has. How far it goes from the sun. You know,
Speaker 2: it has a golilocks one. So this crater in between
Speaker 2: the shadows, right, that's where we land, okay, and from
Speaker 2: that shadow we have to It's really time precision because
Speaker 2: the temperature can change the blank of n eye and
Speaker 2: there's there could be a catastrophe, so they know when
Speaker 2: to land when not to land. But there's a crater
Speaker 2: that is made like as a diamond shape, right, so
Speaker 2: when the shadow hits it, the shadow lasts longer than
Speaker 2: when it's.
Speaker 3: An around shape.
Speaker 2: So that Goldilocks one lasts probably like twenty to thirty
Speaker 2: minutes every.
Speaker 3: In every side of it, so depending on the.
Speaker 2: Time they land on the different sides. And it has
Speaker 2: opening that the ships can go inside, and it's a
Speaker 2: lava tube.
Speaker 3: And this lava tube was like it is built like
Speaker 3: in ancient times, like crazy.
Speaker 2: So the Goldilock zone actually the temperature in between in
Speaker 2: between the shadow and when the sun hits can reach
Speaker 2: to like like ninety to eighty or seventy degrees depending
Speaker 2: of how far you are from the shadows or how
Speaker 2: far you are from the sunlight.
Speaker 3: It's like a thin.
Speaker 2: Okay, like thirty feet by thirty feet of Goldilocks. So
Speaker 2: that we figure out, yes, there could be a temperature
Speaker 2: that and then once you get in the tubes, the
Speaker 2: temperature it's also like it's colder. It gets like sixty
Speaker 2: to fifty degrees around there. And we went there and
Speaker 2: I went to pull security were some other green Berets
Speaker 2: that were there, and they were also pulling security. And
Speaker 2: we went there on like a TR three B type
Speaker 2: of craft, and we we came back home, and we
Speaker 2: landed back home and I went, I went to my
Speaker 2: house like nothing happened.
Speaker 3: Sometimes in these missions, we leave, like at four o'clock
Speaker 3: in the morning. They call you up.
Speaker 2: Okay, boom, you do pet, Then they call you up again.
Speaker 2: They meet up in this location. Sometimes they use signals,
Speaker 2: sometimes they don't. Sometimes they use a regular phone. They
Speaker 2: meet up in this location. They give you a location
Speaker 2: with numbers, and you go to that location and they
Speaker 2: pick you up. It could be a black Hawk or
Speaker 2: it could be one of these crafts, the TR three
Speaker 2: bs that they are the size of four school buses
Speaker 2: if you put a corner to corner like triangle, like
Speaker 2: if you put three school buses in a triangle, look
Speaker 2: shape the size of these ships. So it's not really
Speaker 2: like I call it a TR three B, but it's
Speaker 2: probably like a TR three six or something like that.
Speaker 3: It's a smaller version of a triangle craft that we have.
Speaker 2: And we've been having this for I think above forty
Speaker 2: forty years or fifty years.
Speaker 3: We've been having these type of ships.
Speaker 1: So are these strips? Are they? How long does it
Speaker 1: take you to get to the must say?
Speaker 2: So, once you take off, you black out, like you
Speaker 2: close your eyes, you like blackout, and then you open
Speaker 2: your eyes and you're there. So the time I do
Speaker 2: not really can tell you the time. How long does
Speaker 2: it take? I know it could be fast when we
Speaker 2: come back the same day.
Speaker 1: Is there a reason? Is there a reason you black out?
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem to do that intentional?
Speaker 2: For you guys, I think they do it intentionally. I
Speaker 2: think they do it intentionally. The reason why we black out? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and there's no windows. There's no windows on these ships
Speaker 2: they have.
Speaker 3: They have seats that come out from the wall.
Speaker 2: You say, I know, I fuck yourself up and these
Speaker 2: seats are connected to the walls and you just buckle
Speaker 2: up and take off.
Speaker 1: Really, so is there what do you say to a
Speaker 1: theory like the flat Earth? You know and as far
Speaker 1: as you know, you are well aware of like off
Speaker 1: planet operations and bases and other planetary bodies and stuff,
Speaker 1: and uh does that theory? Is that just complete this disinformation?
Speaker 2: I don't believe in the flat earth theory. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys believe in it.
Speaker 1: No, no, we don't. I just we see that pushed
Speaker 1: a lot and the world is round.
Speaker 2: Ah. Everything if you study what is energy, everything starts
Speaker 2: off as so it's a ball, right, Everything is in
Speaker 2: a frequency and vibration, right. I I saw the Earth
Speaker 2: is round, but it kind of looks like it's not
Speaker 2: completely round. It looks like a potato.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, deal.
Speaker 2: But what do you see when you see the Earth
Speaker 2: for the first time in space. The feeling that you feel,
Speaker 2: It's like you can never change that in your life.
Speaker 2: The feeling when you see Earth for the first time
Speaker 2: in space and you look back and you see that,
Speaker 2: and you feel the light, the light on Earth.
Speaker 3: See people, A lot of people don't talk about this, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel the light of the sun, all right,
Speaker 2: But when you feel the light bouncing off on Earth,
Speaker 2: and it you feel the frequency of Earth itself, the
Speaker 2: light of Earth, not the light.
Speaker 3: Of the sun.
Speaker 2: The sun can be behind you, but the light that
Speaker 2: is coming from Earth. That light is bouncing off from Earth,
Speaker 2: off of all living things on Earth, off of water,
Speaker 2: that frequency that hits you.
Speaker 3: In your face, that light, It changes your life.
Speaker 2: It changes your life when you see that, and it's
Speaker 2: like that with Awe when you see the Moon also
Speaker 2: has a certain frequency that when you get close to
Speaker 2: it and you feel the light from the Moon, not
Speaker 2: coming directly from the Sun, but coming from the Moon,
Speaker 2: you feel like a vibration is like wow.
Speaker 3: The same thing with Jupiter.
Speaker 2: You feel that with Jupiter, you feel that with Saturn,
Speaker 2: and every planet has a heartbeat that your body have to.
Speaker 3: Get used to it after you come in contact with.
Speaker 2: And it just engulfs you with the energy of the planet.
Speaker 2: It is incredible, incredible the feeling when you do these
Speaker 2: What I remember in these missions, I know probably a
Speaker 2: lot of things happening between that I don't remember, but
Speaker 2: what I can recall on these missions, interacting with these
Speaker 2: different planets, or interacting with these massive ships in our
Speaker 2: oceans as well, interacting with these different beings, it carries
Speaker 2: a vibration that if you're not ready, it can it
Speaker 2: could damage you, like your mind that you know. I
Speaker 2: think they chose me because I've been through a lot
Speaker 2: of missions, Like if you read these books, I've been
Speaker 2: through a lot of missions, and I think they choose
Speaker 2: people that have been through these experiences and also know
Speaker 2: how to communicate with these beings, these extra Tradustrials, these Nordics,
Speaker 2: or these orbs that come out and or these ancient technologies.
Speaker 2: Also it's a similar frequency. When we went to the
Speaker 2: Arc for the first time, we went with a group
Speaker 2: of astact Indians from Mexico.
Speaker 3: We went with.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it was Chinese and Russians there were
Speaker 2: in the mission with us and these Astac Indians, and
Speaker 2: we had a translator that came with these Astec Mexicans
Speaker 2: because they spoke not Spanish, but they spoke a different
Speaker 2: dialect that we did not understand. And somehow with a
Speaker 2: dance that they did and frequency of their voice, they
Speaker 2: could activate certain things that we could not activate. They
Speaker 2: started singing a song called Akuriamate, and that's where.
Speaker 3: Comes from a lot of people ask me, oh, where
Speaker 3: is it comes from?
Speaker 2: These Aztec Indians that they sang these songs to activate
Speaker 2: and the meaning of this song means heaven to earth
Speaker 2: and it connects.
Speaker 3: It opened up. It opens up like a like a
Speaker 3: space or.
Speaker 2: Inter dimensional portal, and you can go in and you
Speaker 2: go out from these portals. So I think the ancients
Speaker 2: they had a lot of knowledge on frequency and how
Speaker 2: to activate it with sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think most of the ancient sites, the sacred
Speaker 1: sites all around the planet that have these structures that
Speaker 1: may seem insignificant, I think their voice activated. I've always
Speaker 1: said that. I think with a very specific chant or
Speaker 1: song or dance or whatever it is, you don't need
Speaker 1: a technology. We are in technology, but it's probably spoken
Speaker 1: in a forgotten language. Just kind of like you said, So,
Speaker 1: where was this arc in particular that you that you
Speaker 1: went to with the Aztecs.
Speaker 2: This arc was in between the Bermuda and in between
Speaker 2: Puerto Rico and the time, but it was still and
Speaker 2: we kept visiting, and we the United States.
Speaker 3: We have this ship that looks like a donut ship.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if you saw the movie and
Speaker 2: or or the show ind or that donut shape ship
Speaker 2: that is on the water. We have a ship like
Speaker 2: that that's huge, huge, It looks like a stadium. And
Speaker 2: you have these helicopters that land there. International people that
Speaker 2: are part of the art of it is accord they
Speaker 2: land there. We had Russian one time, China one time
Speaker 2: interacting with these massive ship that we have. And this
Speaker 2: ship has an elevator that's in the middle that connected
Speaker 2: to the arc. The arc wasn't It was deep, but
Speaker 2: not as deep as people think, as you know, if
Speaker 2: it was like the.
Speaker 3: Titanic, it wasn't that deep. It was I think it
Speaker 3: was on top of a.
Speaker 2: It was on top of a hill bank plateau under
Speaker 2: the water, okay, but around it, yes, it goes down
Speaker 2: and there's there is a extrarestrial type of city with
Speaker 2: these beings that they look like us, but they're taller
Speaker 2: and they have longer hands. But they're like what seven
Speaker 2: or eight feet tall. Like if you go down to
Speaker 2: you feel like you're in the NBA, you know when
Speaker 2: you see these guys, they're like freaking tall. They're all different, racist,
Speaker 2: like black, white. So if they come up here, they're
Speaker 2: just tall, but they look just like they look just
Speaker 2: like us, eight feet seven foot eight like tall some
Speaker 2: of them. Some of them, yeah, they could be our
Speaker 2: height as well, but most most of them, they're like above.
Speaker 1: Seven five And they just have a city just below
Speaker 1: the ocean. Is it in the ocean below?
Speaker 2: Just below the ocean, they have a city and they
Speaker 2: got these pyramid, like I'll send you a picture after.
Speaker 2: They have these pyramids that are made like a glass metal.
Speaker 3: It's like, it can't be glass.
Speaker 2: It's like a glass metal that you see through a
Speaker 2: a is a metal that we don't know about that
Speaker 2: can withstan.
Speaker 3: Ocean pressure. Yes, the cities are a little bit deeper.
Speaker 2: And but I think they something happened to the world
Speaker 2: every couple thousands of years that the water rotates in
Speaker 2: a certain way.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happens. I don't know because I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Say this here in your channel for the first time.
Speaker 2: Well I said it and redacted, and Clayton.
Speaker 3: Was like, oh, that could be possible.
Speaker 2: You know, we have a civilization right that live in
Speaker 2: our moon as well.
Speaker 3: It's not only basis that we have there.
Speaker 2: We have a civilization that live on the Moon that
Speaker 2: has superior technology than us.
Speaker 3: But these people they look like us, but they look
Speaker 3: from India, like.
Speaker 2: People from India, Like if you go to India, the
Speaker 2: same complexion, same everything, and they fly.
Speaker 3: These egg shaped ships.
Speaker 2: Right, So I think think it was two years ago
Speaker 2: or a year ago that Air Force Pilot came out
Speaker 2: and they captured this egg shaped ship.
Speaker 3: That's their ship.
Speaker 2: And in the book, prior of this Pilot coming out,
Speaker 2: I talk about this egg shaped ship about this guy
Speaker 2: his name is Lovin, that he used to pick me
Speaker 2: up as well, and he used to fly me to
Speaker 2: these these domes of biodomes that have vegetation.
Speaker 3: It's just so much man.
Speaker 1: So getting back to getting back to the water and
Speaker 1: what you think happens under the ocean, And you said
Speaker 1: every so many thousand years, it like something shifts.
Speaker 2: So every couple of thousands of years, right, this moon
Speaker 2: that we have that is moving up away from Earth
Speaker 2: two inches and a half, I think it moves away year.
Speaker 3: Okay, and moves away. Why is it moving away?
Speaker 2: A lot of scientists know, a lot of people know,
Speaker 2: but they don't want to tell people about it.
Speaker 3: I guess apparently this civilization, right.
Speaker 2: These people that live here that are connected with Nordics
Speaker 2: and other cities inside our oceans that are connected with
Speaker 2: the ancient India. I don't know if you ever read
Speaker 2: the ancient texts of India about the Vimanas and all that.
Speaker 5: Vedis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they have a way to move the moon.
Speaker 2: Closer, and that's what people are scared that might happen. Okay,
Speaker 2: if these people decide to move the moon closer, I
Speaker 2: don't know what technology they have on the moon. A
Speaker 2: lot of people think the moon is it's a type
Speaker 2: of ship that was wrong there. I believe it is
Speaker 2: a type of ship that was brought from somewhere else
Speaker 2: and put there.
Speaker 5: Alex Color always talks about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I totally agree with him.
Speaker 2: I think this moon that we have is a ship
Speaker 2: that if it does move slightly, only fifty feet closer. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's just put fifty feet, it could change the whole
Speaker 2: face of Earth with these massive waves that we will
Speaker 2: get slamming into the shores.
Speaker 3: And some of these.
Speaker 2: Locations on Earth under like for example, Florida, it looks
Speaker 2: like a sponge with so many like if a waves
Speaker 2: keep slamming in, it will collapse and the whole world
Speaker 2: would change dramatically in how it would look. Like if
Speaker 2: the moon just moves like one hundred or fifty feet
Speaker 2: closer with the wave.
Speaker 1: Right, so it's affecting it's affecting.
Speaker 2: The water, not if it moves slowly, but if it
Speaker 2: moves dramatically like fifty to one hundred feet.
Speaker 3: Closer, like like just the.
Speaker 2: Effect would be crazy with the magnetic field and the
Speaker 2: rotation with the Earth, and it gives like a break
Speaker 2: on the earth or something like that. That the oceans.
Speaker 2: I think that's where we got all those the no
Speaker 2: wall the flood stories and all that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's like as well would cause that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would rate a postship as well.
Speaker 2: Uh, if something like that happens, if something like that happens, okay.
Speaker 5: Well we could be protected from something like that happening.
Speaker 2: In Yeah, that's ah, that's when we get into the
Speaker 2: These beings are are like angels that are that are
Speaker 2: interacting with us as well.
Speaker 3: And and people.
Speaker 2: Like I, I still go to church, right, and I
Speaker 2: believe in Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: I don't know if if people here, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: know he was.
Speaker 5: He was a very real powerful being and he can't
Speaker 5: Yeah he was. He came to to wake us up basically,
Speaker 5: and said.
Speaker 2: He came to wake us up. I believe in him.
Speaker 2: I believe in Yahweh. I serve Yahweh. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you guys know who yahwe is. That's the god
Speaker 2: I serve. Some people might say he's an angry god,
Speaker 2: but I don't believe that. I know there's certain things
Speaker 2: that happen for a reason.
Speaker 3: But we are eternal beings.
Speaker 2: We never die, you know, if you study consciousness, if
Speaker 2: you study if he did created the flood and people perish,
Speaker 2: people realize, okay, yeah, we're still alive.
Speaker 3: Like if you realize that.
Speaker 2: We are eternal beings, then you will understand who is
Speaker 2: how yawe it works, and how he does his things,
Speaker 2: you know. And I think all this that happened to me,
Speaker 2: and I've been saying this a lot, I think this
Speaker 2: is really really it connects to the spiritual, spiritual, spiritual
Speaker 2: realm with me because these beings they show up. And
Speaker 2: I even have a video that I shared with doctor
Speaker 2: Slam these. I'm sorry, I don't know how long is
Speaker 2: your show.
Speaker 1: There's no time there's no time limit. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: just however long you want to stay. We won't keep
Speaker 1: you any longer than like four or five hours.
Speaker 3: Oh geez.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you send a video that Salah.
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 2: I even said a video to Sala about me interacting
Speaker 2: with a Nordic being and I ripped My wife.
Speaker 3: She saw this video and she started crying. She's like, oh,
Speaker 3: they're angels. What are they? Their angels are the angels?
Speaker 3: So I ripped up.
Speaker 2: I ripped up a Nordic beings because I didn't want
Speaker 2: him to go.
Speaker 3: I said, you need to stay here and give you
Speaker 3: more information. Stay here. I love the way I feel
Speaker 3: when you're around me. Stay here. I need I need
Speaker 3: more information.
Speaker 2: So I ripped his and he disappeared, and I had
Speaker 2: the fabric in my hand. I recorded with a phone
Speaker 2: from back in the days there was no AI, nothing,
Speaker 2: And you can see the fabric turn into a liquid form.
Speaker 2: I'm recording this and I start shaking and this fabric
Speaker 2: turns into a liquid form, and it turns into like
Speaker 2: a glitteraly form, and it falls off.
Speaker 3: My hand and disappears like if it was from another realm.
Speaker 3: And lady these these and I have a video of that, and.
Speaker 2: We're waiting for the right time, because you could tell
Speaker 2: that this is real, like you can put.
Speaker 3: It through any AI or any thing and it.
Speaker 2: Tells you this is real evidence of what happened behind
Speaker 2: my backyard. I live in the wood wooded area. Okay,
Speaker 2: I live in the wooded area behind my backyard. I
Speaker 2: have interacted with Nordics, Okay. I have interacted with these beings,
Speaker 2: these people that are like angels, and they have given me,
Speaker 2: They have been giving me messages, and I have been
Speaker 2: telling doctor Saula about these messages about hey, come down,
Speaker 2: you know, give this message to the governments.
Speaker 3: Around the world. And I have been doing that.
Speaker 2: I've been connected with people that are high ranks, and
Speaker 2: I've been giving information to other people that are connected
Speaker 2: to just the United States, and they want to share
Speaker 2: it with other governments. They can share it with other governments,
Speaker 2: but I'm only sharing my information with the United States
Speaker 2: of America.
Speaker 5: Can you share with us what those messages were that they.
Speaker 3: Told you to be careful.
Speaker 2: Because we are legions and it's nothing to do with
Speaker 2: Satan or nothing like that.
Speaker 3: When you say legions, that means it's a lot of them.
Speaker 5: Okay, this means a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just means a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: people get that confused.
Speaker 2: But they said for us to be careful, for us
Speaker 2: to be fair with each other.
Speaker 3: And I think I did this in.
Speaker 2: The like two updates ago with doctor Salah about this being.
Speaker 2: His name is this being's name? His name was raj
Speaker 2: Yell And when we do research of what his name meant,
Speaker 2: it is actually one of the angels that they talk
Speaker 2: in the Bible that talks about justice and all that.
Speaker 2: So all that hair is in my body, were like,
Speaker 2: oh crap. So these could be angels that I've been
Speaker 2: interacting with. There's bad angels and there's good angels. That's
Speaker 2: why we have to be careful.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: There's always a yin and yang. There's there's good people
Speaker 2: and there's bad people. There's good doctor's, bad doctor's, good
Speaker 2: cops bad cops.
Speaker 3: So these angels I could tell.
Speaker 2: When there's a negative entity trying to communicate with me,
Speaker 2: I stay away, I don't communicate back, and I keep
Speaker 2: doing what I need to do. But when these guys
Speaker 2: connect with me, you feel a sense of peace. You
Speaker 2: feel like you're connected with them. You feel like they
Speaker 2: can they they talk to you without moving, like telepathically.
Speaker 2: But I think it's a type of technology that they
Speaker 2: have that interacts with the frequency of your brain patterns.
Speaker 2: So I think something that connects with them or a
Speaker 2: device that they got or wearing that connects with the
Speaker 2: brain pattern that's connected to you, and it makes it
Speaker 2: you can hear their voice like in your head, like
Speaker 2: you can hear it clear and in your life language.
Speaker 2: I speak a total of three languages, so when they
Speaker 2: speak to me, they speak to me in three languages,
Speaker 2: like certain words I understand better, and Portuguese or English
Speaker 2: or Spanish, and they talk to me like in three languages.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, wow, it's crazy. So now I'm seeing,
Speaker 2: uh that all this could be.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: When you read, when you really read the Book of
Speaker 2: Enoch MH, you can really get into what who these
Speaker 2: people are h the watchers and all that.
Speaker 3: Ah. And you know, throughout throughout the Bible, you.
Speaker 2: Have angels visiting people, telling me, Hey, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: a son. Hey, you're gonna have another son. His name
Speaker 2: is gonna be Sam Simar. Canna have a uh.
Speaker 3: Or we have angels.
Speaker 2: Visiting noises or God speaking to noises in the mountain,
Speaker 2: you know, and you think about that there there's there's
Speaker 2: people out there. I'm not saying that I'm not I'm chosen. No,
Speaker 2: I'm saying there's a lot. There's people like me, a
Speaker 2: lot of people out there that are communicating with these beings.
Speaker 2: And and it's not it's not because I've been in
Speaker 2: the military. It's not I've been having I think this
Speaker 2: is also a generational thing. My grandpa had an experience,
Speaker 2: my father had an experience.
Speaker 3: In a receival Puerto Rico of a burning ball fire.
Speaker 2: Uh, and me, I had the experience, but my experiences.
Speaker 1: Intense, intense, right, So, yeah, this is fascinating and I
Speaker 1: agree one hundred percent. Like with the we have spiritual
Speaker 1: angelic help from high realms right now. And I and
Speaker 1: I think that's a very fair warning to be careful
Speaker 1: because what you're talking about is a false light, you know,
Speaker 1: and the devil's never going to show up as the devil, right,
Speaker 1: They're going to be unrecognizable most of the time. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's a very fair warning. But that that brings
Speaker 1: me to a question I wanted to ask you earlier. So,
Speaker 1: whenever you do these missions, is this all seems to
Speaker 1: be for the light benevolent white hat missions? Were you
Speaker 1: ever approached to do something that you didn't agree with,
Speaker 1: like a deep state faction of the military or something.
Speaker 2: No, all the missions that I did, I want. I
Speaker 2: decided to go to do it. And because you could
Speaker 2: opt out, But if you opt out, how can I
Speaker 2: put this? They won't call you no more. It's like
Speaker 2: they won't use you no more, you know. And I
Speaker 2: really wanted these experience. I really wanted these missions, So
Speaker 2: every time they came up, I said yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: We sometimes we go to these places and there is
Speaker 3: aggressive people there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're involved and they will kick you in
Speaker 2: a face if you don't if you question them after
Speaker 2: you're part of the mission, and you're because you can
Speaker 2: mess up the whole mission, you know.
Speaker 3: But once you're part of the mission, it's a goal.
Speaker 3: There's no turning back. It's a goal.
Speaker 2: It's it's like finishing airborne school. They'll kick you out
Speaker 2: the plane. They'll they'll drop kick you out of the
Speaker 2: plane just for you to finish airborne school is an
Speaker 2: Article nineteen, meaning.
Speaker 3: You'll get out.
Speaker 2: They'll kick you out of the military and you can
Speaker 2: serve time by not jumping out.
Speaker 3: Of the plane.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's it's like that. When you go
Speaker 2: on these missions. You got people that are straight, straightforward,
Speaker 2: and if they see somebody that is different, if they
Speaker 2: see somebody that is doing the wrong things, they'll take
Speaker 2: you out. They'll like really take you out because they'll
Speaker 2: kick you in the face. They don't put no jokes
Speaker 2: when you're on these missions, and some people will take that.
Speaker 2: But when you join the military, you signed to be
Speaker 2: part of the organization like an army and marine. When
Speaker 2: you sign these papers, you are told what to do.
Speaker 2: And doctor Saul told me, are you sure you want
Speaker 2: to join? I say, ah, But behind my head, if
Speaker 2: I join, they will they will leave me alone.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That's what I had behind my head. I said, Doc,
Speaker 2: I'm going to join. I'm going to join the military,
Speaker 2: you know. And you know it was also like part
Speaker 2: of me too. I always wanted to sometime because also
Speaker 2: my grandpa and also other family members joined the military
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: So it was always part. I think they were always
Speaker 3: looking at us. Yeah, absolutely, since the beginning with these experiences.
Speaker 2: And then when I started going to these conferences right
Speaker 2: like the g SIG or other big conferences, and we
Speaker 2: started summoning.
Speaker 3: I started summoning these these ships, these orbs.
Speaker 2: I even did it in Eastbourne, h We summoned these
Speaker 2: I had this drum and I was banging it and
Speaker 2: I was singing at kuia mate, and I had everybody
Speaker 2: singing at kia mate, like three thousand people.
Speaker 3: And in Eastbourne, this ORB came.
Speaker 2: And everybody saw. Everybody started crying. Everybody was so happy,
Speaker 2: and it just blinked away.
Speaker 3: And disappeared. And this happened in France.
Speaker 2: This happened in Japan, this happened in Colorado.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's amazing, it's amazing. How and then they
Speaker 3: started knowing that, like they knew I could do that.
Speaker 2: You know, if you implement that with the dog whistle,
Speaker 2: these ships they show up like crazy.
Speaker 1: Right, wow, So okay, where are you at today with
Speaker 1: all this stuff? You said? You know, you feel like
Speaker 1: you've been getting attacked a lot? Uh do you?
Speaker 2: Once I did, once I did Redacted, it's been going crazy,
Speaker 2: Like I've been getting phone calls out of nowhere. It's
Speaker 2: been getting scary right now, like people, well we know
Speaker 2: we live, be careful, like call me out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: After I did the show Redacted, I think it hit
Speaker 2: like what three hundred and ten thousand views like in
Speaker 2: one week.
Speaker 3: But it was it was crazy. It was crazy after
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: But yeah, of course I always been bothered, you know,
Speaker 2: doing the show with doctor Michael Salah, and we've been
Speaker 2: we've been attacked. You know what happened recently to doctor
Speaker 2: sala He've been attacked. I've been attacked. Sad to say,
Speaker 2: what happens to James Rank the other day?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: You know, so this is dangerous. This is dangerous the
Speaker 2: information that we're bringing. But I think twenty twenty six
Speaker 2: it's going to be the age, the real age of disclosure.
Speaker 3: I think the people that I think this time, I know.
Speaker 2: High officers in that movie Age of the Closure came
Speaker 2: out with this information.
Speaker 3: But I think twenty twenty six are going to be
Speaker 3: the soldiers. And I think I think doing that, like
Speaker 3: when these.
Speaker 2: Shows, you know, it can open the doors for other
Speaker 2: soldiers to come out. So if you're watching this show right,
Speaker 2: for all the soldiers that are watching and showing you've
Speaker 2: been through the experience that I am experience and get
Speaker 2: in touch with Journey to the Truth, or get in
Speaker 2: touch with doctor Salah, email him or or you know,
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 3: You need to talk about these experience.
Speaker 2: These experience can each you from the inside out and
Speaker 2: it can drive you nuts. And a lot of people,
Speaker 2: you know, they can't take it, and certain things happen
Speaker 2: when they can't take it, you know, and it's sad,
Speaker 2: and it happens to a lot of military people when
Speaker 2: they see that we.
Speaker 3: Have a medbad technology that can heal.
Speaker 2: The world, and it can't come out because the technology
Speaker 2: that it has can also be used to kill millions
Speaker 2: of people, So it's a percentage issue.
Speaker 3: Look what happened to the atomic bomb?
Speaker 2: You know, you can use that for clean energy and
Speaker 2: you can also use that for destruction. So when when
Speaker 2: you're a soldier and you're going through these experiences and
Speaker 2: you get on these these ships and you're like, what
Speaker 2: the heck we're getting on at seven forty seven when
Speaker 2: we have this.
Speaker 3: Why are these people suffering? Why why we can't just
Speaker 3: take this information out?
Speaker 2: Because the technology, if it falls on the wrong hands,
Speaker 2: it can it can be havoc to the world if
Speaker 2: it falls on the wrong hands. So I think I
Speaker 2: agree getting rid of negative people that are dictators and
Speaker 2: before these technologies come into play, you don't want people with.
Speaker 3: Great power that if they get hold of this. Imagine
Speaker 3: if Venezuela had a weapon of mass destruction, you know,
Speaker 3: it can be it can be way.
Speaker 5: For it or China or Korea or oh yeah, right.
Speaker 5: And the cabal operates kind of behind the scenes, you know,
Speaker 5: they they don't operate through they operate through countries and governments,
Speaker 5: but they're above all that and they kind of they
Speaker 5: they've always been manipulating things to try to start war,
Speaker 5: start wars fund both sides, you know, and and bed
Speaker 5: themselves in all these governments and intelligence agencies and different things.
Speaker 5: And I feel like we're still in the clean up
Speaker 5: phase of that. But that's why so much on the
Speaker 5: surface either doesn't make sense or seems like, well, why
Speaker 5: why are we just now going to Venezuela and doing
Speaker 5: this and why are we doing that? And now I
Speaker 5: think it's because there are things happening that are a
Speaker 5: little more behind the scenes and deeper that there's a
Speaker 5: there's a very good reason why we just went into Venezuela,
Speaker 5: into that and I and I you know, that's a
Speaker 5: whole long episode and of itself to go through that,
Speaker 5: but it's way more you know, people want to think, oh,
Speaker 5: it's just a about the oil, it's just about the
Speaker 5: It's like no.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no, no, no.
Speaker 5: No, no no, it is not about that at all. It's
Speaker 5: way deeper and more important and good than.
Speaker 1: That, right, I mean, And if you listen to like
Speaker 1: I've read Carry Cassidy's recent article and she's you know,
Speaker 1: through her whistleblowers got information saying that a lot of
Speaker 1: what's behind Maduro and like Venezuela and the cartel is
Speaker 1: actually extraterrestrials like negative like grays and stuff from what
Speaker 1: she's heard. So it's like, you know, on the surface,
Speaker 1: we're going in there and it's about drugs and oil
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. But they'll never tell you this
Speaker 1: is like an ET war and that's a whole component
Speaker 1: of it that will never be disclosed because they can't
Speaker 1: at this point. You know, yes, Oka.
Speaker 3: Carry Cassidy. Oh my god. When I met her the
Speaker 3: first time, she was really.
Speaker 1: Me, brother, does that's her style?
Speaker 3: Ship out of me? I'm like, lady, you know, because
Speaker 3: you know she's carry Cassidy. I think you know, I Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: she is. You know, people always want proof.
Speaker 2: But that's one of the reasons I think I came
Speaker 2: out with my D two fourteen because a lot of
Speaker 2: people saying, oh, you're a stolen valor.
Speaker 3: No, you're not military. So we were going to I
Speaker 3: think this is happened in New York.
Speaker 2: I was with her with Loura Eisenhower, with Brad Austin,
Speaker 2: and we were doing this conference over there in New
Speaker 2: York and we were visiting Camp Hero, right, yeah, And
Speaker 2: to enter Camp Hero you have to pass a checkpoint
Speaker 2: and I took out my military you know, my military card,
Speaker 2: and I showed it to the to the guy in
Speaker 2: the checkpoint and he's like, you're good to go, soldier.
Speaker 3: Everybody looked at me, like what.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, But.
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, little things like that, you know that
Speaker 2: I don't like to really push h really really I
Speaker 2: didn't want to show my DD to fourteen or show
Speaker 2: that you know, I was from seventh Group. I was
Speaker 2: trying to keep that entight, seventh Group, because I don't
Speaker 2: want people going to the base, you know, or bothering
Speaker 2: Agglin Air Force Base. They called this actually the area
Speaker 2: fifty one of the South. It's the biggest air force
Speaker 2: base that we have in the United States of America
Speaker 2: is Agglin Air Force Base, and so in in it's
Speaker 2: a conference like huge, and we have a lot of
Speaker 2: things there, and it's man, the technology that we have,
Speaker 2: it's like probably six hundred years more.
Speaker 3: Advanced in what we think we have now.
Speaker 2: So if you think AI or cell phones or computers
Speaker 2: or what we have now is cool that we have
Speaker 2: in the military, I think that's why I love this country,
Speaker 2: the United States of America. You know, I don't know
Speaker 2: about you guys, but I love this country, and we
Speaker 2: have technology that can manipulate space and time.
Speaker 3: It is insane.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they essentially publicly said that. What was
Speaker 5: that last year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Krastios, the White House advisor, came out and
Speaker 1: literally said, we have technology that can manipulate space and
Speaker 1: time and leave the distance annihilated.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, leave distance annihilated. Yeah, ye, space and time. Yeah,
Speaker 5: because space and time are one time anyway, So you
Speaker 5: can manipulate space, you can also manipulate time and vice versa.
Speaker 5: And that's how most that's how many at least et
Speaker 5: craft are traveling because they have that interdimensional realm, right,
Speaker 5: and interdimensionally as well, right, right.
Speaker 2: But I think I think there's a lot of evilness,
Speaker 2: a lot of evil entities connecting with a lot of
Speaker 2: people still, so we have to be really careful.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a spiritual warfare that's happening.
Speaker 5: Right now, ultimately a spiritual war.
Speaker 3: It's a spiritual war. And that's why I go to
Speaker 3: church every Sunday.
Speaker 2: That's why I that's why I serve yahweh, I serve Jesus.
Speaker 3: You know, and I will never change. I might go
Speaker 3: through my experience it Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: I still believe in ets because the Bible, if you
Speaker 2: read in Hebrews chapter eleven, it talks about the faith
Speaker 2: and how God frames the world's it says the Bible
Speaker 2: that God frames the world. So, uh, it's it's real.
Speaker 3: It's real.
Speaker 2: The spiritual round the ets are real, the UFOs are real.
Speaker 2: The technologies like space soldiers traveling in space, it's real.
Speaker 2: Portals are real.
Speaker 3: We got soldiers on the moon. We got soldiers on Mars.
Speaker 2: We got soldiers on the biggest moon in our solo
Speaker 2: sism getting made, that is the moon on Jupiter. We
Speaker 2: got soldiers in Europa. We got soldiers surrounding Titan. We
Speaker 2: got soldiers mining the rings of SATs using these massive ships.
Speaker 2: We got it is it's just mind blowing. If this
Speaker 2: comes out twenty twenty six. Well, I've been saying it,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not And a lot of people have
Speaker 2: been talking about.
Speaker 3: These experiences and all that. You know, like Tony Roderiguez.
Speaker 3: You know you guys have been to him, Yeah, oh yeah, friends.
Speaker 3: So man, he's an excellent guy. I love Tony. He's
Speaker 3: really down to earth and he's he's just he's amazing.
Speaker 2: He's a person that once you have him by your side,
Speaker 2: nobody can take that away.
Speaker 3: He's an amazing person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he plays a big role in our upcoming documentary,
Speaker 1: which we're actually hoping that it catches some traction and
Speaker 1: you know, plays a bigger role in the collective you know,
Speaker 1: you know, collectively, not just you know, in our community here.
Speaker 1: We really want this film to go far and wide,
Speaker 1: and it really builds a case for the secret space
Speaker 1: program and stuff, and Tony plays a crucial role in that.
Speaker 1: And it's a really powerful film. It's about two hours long,
Speaker 1: and it's getting ready to launch, so that's also we
Speaker 1: think we're hoping that's going to play a part in
Speaker 1: this whole rollout of disclosure in twenty twenty six and
Speaker 1: be awesome. Yeah, so we can't wait for people to
Speaker 1: see that.
Speaker 5: I'm really excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and anything you need help from me, I'll help
Speaker 2: you push it as far as you can, you know too,
Speaker 2: because people need to hear these these stories, these information,
Speaker 2: these experiences.
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, thank you for that, and thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. This has honestly been one
Speaker 1: of the most fascinating interviews in a long time, I
Speaker 1: really thought, you know, everything was just incredible that you
Speaker 1: were saying that. Yeah, I know people really want that
Speaker 1: evidence and want that proof. But we've been doing this
Speaker 1: long enough. Like there's an energy that people carry when
Speaker 1: they're telling the truth, and you know, when they're just
Speaker 1: being authentic, and that's all we can ask for at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, you know, pay
Speaker 1: barilling goes so far. Yeah, okay, I have this form.
Speaker 1: I was in the military, but there's you know, the
Speaker 1: truth is a frequency, right and we understand that. So
Speaker 1: we appreciate what you're doing, and you know, good luck
Speaker 1: moving forward. Stay safe. I understand like what it's like
Speaker 1: to be under the you know, over the target and
Speaker 1: under fire sometimes through these attacks and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: So you know, you're protect You're protected, like you like
Speaker 1: you said though, you're protected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're protected. We're protected. You know.
Speaker 2: I got another update coming up with doctor Solad is
Speaker 2: going to be amazing. It's going to be a mission
Speaker 2: late mission that we just did and soon I'm going
Speaker 2: to be working also for the government again on the
Speaker 2: other agency. So it's going to be amazing. When I
Speaker 2: disclosed that.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, we'll be looking forward to that and yeah,
Speaker 1: is there anything that any final words you'd like to
Speaker 1: leave the audience with, or how they connect with you
Speaker 1: or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Like I always said, the frequency of love is the
Speaker 2: center of all things.
Speaker 3: If we have love.
Speaker 2: In our heart and we connect with other people with love,
Speaker 2: that's just bring the frequency of love.
Speaker 3: Help your neighbors.
Speaker 2: Call your family members if you haven't called them for
Speaker 2: a while, if you haven't called your mom, you haven't
Speaker 2: called your dad, you haven't call your brothers and sisters
Speaker 2: or cousins. Give them a call, say I love you.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what they did to you, Just give
Speaker 2: them a call. I love you and I miss you.
Speaker 2: That that that counts so much. Love is the frequency
Speaker 2: that we need to carry in a daily basis in
Speaker 2: order to have these types of contacts and these types
Speaker 2: of experiences.
Speaker 3: So love, love, love, love, love, love.
Speaker 2: Love, love, love, love your neighbor, love yourself, and love
Speaker 2: the world that you live in.
Speaker 3: Heaven to earth.
Speaker 1: Absolutely love. That What a beautiful message to end on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: agree more and thank you so much. And in fact
Speaker 1: I'll be seeing you. You know you're coming out here
Speaker 1: in May to Sedona for the Rise of wa Yeah, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but we I live right here, so I'll be there
Speaker 1: and we'll be able to catch up in person, make.
Speaker 2: Sure, and yeah, we'll grab something to eat. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you showed me a good place to eat over there.
Speaker 1: I'll show you your restaurants. You take me to the
Speaker 1: military base. How about that.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Right right? Yeah? Okay, Well, thank you so much. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys all for being here tonight and sticking with us.
Speaker 1: We love you all. We can't do this without you.
Speaker 1: Grab a ticket and join us in Hawaii in April.
Speaker 1: You can go to our website, Journey to Truth dot
Speaker 1: online and our stay tuned for our documentary. It's right
Speaker 1: around the corner and we can't wait to see you
Speaker 1: guys out there everywhere. We'll see you later. Good night,
Speaker 1: and have a great right