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Speaker 2: So what I missed? An hour? Number one?
Speaker 4: Not the major.
Speaker 2: Now we hit all the sports stuff whatever you want
to talk about.
Speaker 5: We hit Monday night football, We hit Brian Kelly Better
have my money?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we did weekend winters that you walked in on.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I want to make sure you know
I didn't want to be redundant.
Speaker 4: And we make that's kids are gonna be YouTube star,
YouTube stars. Yeah everything we hit, subscribe, interact with.
Speaker 2: Me, interact, go to the chat.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be YouTube stars. Yea, yeah, what I miss that?
That's what they want to be. They want to be
influencers when they grow up. Oh yeah, because they watch YouTube.
And I was saying that they want to do YouTube
you know videos, when I said, well, no, lass it's
gonna be good and you're gonna have sixty million followers,
then do that like the kids you watch on TV. Yeah,
but you got a storyboard this idea for me, dude, Yeah,
gotta go.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like it like this. Oh well yeah, the
the Brian Kelly stuff. It's just not going away. Huh no. No,
still back on.
Speaker 7: Kelly's Kelly's going away, just people don't want it to
m hm.
Speaker 2: Well, there feels like both sides feel like they have something.
Speaker 3: Like that that they got that they can get, you know,
either all their money if you're Brian Kelly hitside or
if you're LSU. They feel like maybe it sounds like
they feel like they got something that they That's what.
Speaker 6: We were saying though, like what are you at the
out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: On both sides, like they both feel confident about it.
It feels like a situation where it's like, hey, Brian Kelly,
we have the money, we owe you the money. You
want this money, but we really don't want to pay
you this money, so sue us for it, so spend
money to get this money. What It kind of feels
like we're just gonna make it hard for you to
get this money, so then you have to make a
settlement with us. I don't think that's what the spirit
of a contract is. But you know, there's a lot
of things we don't know.
Speaker 3: Certainly because we don't know what we don't know, all
we can do is talk about.
Speaker 2: How it feels when we read these articles and the
things that we hear. We put all of that together
and we give our opinions on it, and their opinions
not based on all the facts, probably, and that's probably
can be said for almost everything that we read in
an article or hear people tell us.
Speaker 3: So you think Brian Kelly's gonna pull the I like money,
I have some, I'd like more, And that's where you
come in.
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, Brian Kelly's gonna pull the I left a
job to take this job because of money. Yeah, so
now that you don't want me to do this job,
but do you still own money?
Speaker 6: Like you owe me that?
Speaker 5: And I like, as much as we did not enjoy
him as the coach, like, I cannot blame Brian Kelly.
Speaker 6: For wanting his fifty more fifty four million dollars. I
really can't. And if you're saying that, you have cause,
and what is it.
Speaker 2: Doing a bad job at coaches? Not cause it should be,
but it ain't. It should be.
Speaker 3: Now like if we weren't good at this job, we
just we get fired and there would be.
Speaker 4: No well fired, Well you're not any good, that's the
call said.
Speaker 2: The ratings are down, and they could say, well the
winds are down.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, working like nine hours a day
isn't cause instead of working like twelve hours a day.
It's fried upon, it's frown upon. Yeah, but it's not cost.
We need a graphic of the timeline since the fourth
quarter ended against Texas.
Speaker 2: A and M.
Speaker 5: You know what, I want to make a timeline up. No, no, no,
it started with Texas A and M. And it didn't
start this season. It started last season halftime where we
just got ran all over in the second half from
Texas A and M. And it just slowly and slowly
got worse and worse after that. And I mean, if
I got some free time, I'll start to make.
Speaker 7: A little have a lot of straight free straight But
then you won three straight to in the season.
Speaker 4: Now, it wasn't an M in Alabama.
Speaker 7: It was Bandy, Oklahoma and Baylor, and you beat Clemson
in your own you're on cloud nine, like you're feeling
so good.
Speaker 6: And then turns out Clemson's ass to a launcher sport.
Speaker 3: And going back to that last game, it was I'll
never forget the feeling. So calling the game, it's halftime, boom,
all right, let's go get some coffee whatever, and all
the people that I know that cover A and M,
all of them, including our boy Billy Lucci, were like, well, great,
win a good job, like they they just yeah, given
over to the fact that Elish had won the game,
They're like, yep, that's my looks as advertised like, and
I just the look on their face like they lost
that game. And then all of a sudden, you get
bum rush. You lose that game starts to spiral. I mean,
same situation. You're up again at halftime against them, starts
to talk to people at halftime in the A and
M game, Man, Okay, well here we go, like nope, nope,
you gotta play four quarters in this game.
Speaker 2: There's four of them. So yeah, that's seen.
Speaker 3: The timeline of that would be pretty remarkable. But even
if you just did it from this Texas A and
M game to all the things that have happened. AD
not a d AD, not AD president whatever, we're not even.
Speaker 2: Arre even we're not even done now. Well we we
reported it. We were the first to report it this day. Yeah,
today first one because with the morning show we get
to report breaking news here that November eleventh, Verge Osbury
is the athletic director. I know where you're about to
go breaking well.
Speaker 4: I had to ask earlier because I was like, he's
been named AD twice, so just making sure it was legit.
Speaker 2: That part, yeah, that part, Glad Verge is there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank goodness we had virgin place and goodness try
to shore up some things.
Speaker 2: So we were saying, like, thank god we had him
in place, because who would taken the AD job after
the you know, after the whole political situation happened, kind
of got rid of a athletic director. Who's coming with
that baggage? I mean somebody, but not to somebody you want. Yeah,
somebody is obviously. So it's like, thank god the Verge
was here, a highly qualified person that deserves a job
and hopefully we would do a great job. If you're still.
Speaker 3: Bickering and fighting with the head coach that's been let go,
we guess now officially.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if like apparently Woodward
couldn't fire him, but he did fire him.
Speaker 3: So you're not anywhere, you know, you know, anywhere close
to even maybe putting together the list of who potentially
could replace Brian Kelley and not to say that you
I mean on November the eleventh, you need that right now.
It could be hell, it could be January before you
actually do. It could be December, could be the end
of this month, depending on who you're hiring and where
their team is.
Speaker 2: So the A D.
Speaker 3: You told me this when you came, Like, AD cannot
fire without the approval the board. Yeah, the board's got
to be I mean, right, but is it kind of
understood that it's more of like a rubber stamp, like, yeah,
whatever you say, will just approve it.
Speaker 2: Like what's the job of the AD then at that point,
I mean, just to present the board with options? Is
that the job of the AD?
Speaker 3: I mean you have a board for a reason though,
like the A the AD, right, but the AD can't
go just hire somebody. The board has to approve the contract.
So you have a board, you know, I mean, just
like any any business.
Speaker 2: So they prove contract, proved the person of a CEO.
But the CEO has to go to the board. Do
they approve the contract, do they prove the person? Probably both.
I would assume more the contract than anything contract. Yeah,
then how does Woodward did the fall for it? If
the board has to prove everything, Look, you have so
the eight is going to go in talk to them.
Speaker 3: If they were business guys, he's gonna talk to the
agent and you're going to come up and you're going
to come up with the number, and then the board.
Speaker 2: Is going to I'm assuming they're gonna be like, okay,
well we're going to back our a d here. It's
got to be a rubber stamp situation where it's just like, yeah,
whatever you want to do, got it right.
Speaker 3: But they could have the power to say that. Then
the board doesn't happen very often, No, but they could.
I mean that's why you always hear like any any assistant, coach,
any anything, it's like, well, as soon as he gets
approval from.
Speaker 2: The board, it would be official. I don't know, it
seems weird to me. It's just like any I mean, no,
it makes sense.
Speaker 6: But if we're going to put it all on Scott Woodward.
Speaker 8: Then it doesn't really feel like it is like if
he had to go through the board to get that approved,
then somebody approved it, and we're putting all the blame
on him for giving a bad contract.
Speaker 6: They fired him for that.
Speaker 2: That they did, Derek, that they did. This is fun.
This is weird. I feel like this is not the
way it should work.
Speaker 6: Well, I said, we were talking about it and during
the break. I haven't heard anything out of Penn State.
I haven't heard anything out of Florida. Hugh Freeze was
the coach at Auburn. Haven't heard anything out of them.
Speaker 4: I mean, they don't have dirt on Hugh.
Speaker 2: Come on, can you talk about what fifteen million to
fifty four million I was? I said in the first hour,
you didn't have a plan. You've made the plan up.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see Brian Kelly's name in another
article this season. Pay the man is money, Shut up
about it and move.
Speaker 2: On to me.
Speaker 6: It sounds like he's still the head coach.
Speaker 2: We're back, but you have a head coach again. Did
the board to prove Frank Wilson as.
Speaker 5: Interim Scott Woodward didn't have the authority to fire.
Speaker 2: Did they approve the game plan? I think you just
have to have I mean, if I'm wrong, somebody let
me know. I just believe it's.
Speaker 3: Hey, we'll back you if you want to fire any like,
we got to figure this out. We'll vote on you
know whatever. I mean, that's why you have a board,
and you have a lot of.
Speaker 2: Times it's like, I get it. Financially you need to
get things approved by a board in business, but you
usually don't have to have approval to fire somebody. I
guess when it's fifty four million dollars, that money was
going to him anyway if he stayed or not. Right. Yeah, yeah,
because four million dollars, you just it's gonna get paid
like through then a few seasons. It's not like he
was just a gifted Yeah. I don't know. It just
feels like that. You know, somebody's gotta do the job.
If he's gonna get blamed for it and fired by
the governor, then let him do his job, either whether
it doesn't good or bad. Oh that's you. That's you.
Speaker 6: Big game, big robbery game.
Speaker 2: Coming.
Speaker 6: Let's go.
Speaker 7: They're gonna have to dust off that golden boot and
roll it onto the sidelines.
Speaker 2: Throw the l's up, let's go. Hey. One thing I
hope goes away now that Brian Kelly is gone is
the backwards L in pictures. I hope this never sees
the light of day again.
Speaker 7: The backwards zel is bad. But would you rather it
just be back? I would just rather just it's not
not ever a thing until what Yeah, I would rather
be backwards absolutely. Instead of doing this.
Speaker 2: In pictures bother It's always bothering. It's bothered me so bad.
I hate it. And also a couple of other things.
I started doing it in pictures just to send the
mat yep. Backwards L bothered me. The dancing with recruits
bothered me. And then putting recruits in a toy box
when they commit or signed with L s U. That
bothered me as well. Keep the kids out the toy box.
It's a real box. Keep them out of the toy box.
I've seen it. That was fireable.
Speaker 7: They're getting in like a sleep chamber, hyperbaric toy box.
Speaker 4: Hey, get in here real quick. We got to get
a picture.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, hold something with your right hand,
so you have to throw your L up with your
left hand, but turn your shoulder inwards, so it flips.
I feel like, how long has the L been around? Though?
Speaker 7: I feel like the L's been around for a while
since Doug Plantard.
Speaker 2: Do you think so?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, there was like two or three people that
threw the l's up when we were in school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually by holding the old and boot.
Speaker 3: All right, shout out, Doug, dang Alex telling me to
go back home. What did you do? How are you
feeling all right? You've been a little sick, yeah, the
last couple of days. And then the fam you know kids,
you know, I go to school.
Speaker 2: It's like a cesspool. They bring it all back home.
Speaker 3: Steve wants to know if I still want to be
on the committee, probably because of all the man Yeah,
I still do, of course I do. I want to
make sure try to help make sure it gets to
a good situation. I've got thoughts. I've got profiles on
coaches ready to go. I got like seven, bro, you
don't own a big enough company. Yeah no, no, No
percentage of the big company I think is the problem.
Speaker 2: I've got like profiles on like seven guys. I'm ready.
I'm ready.
Speaker 3: You don't run you don't run enough company to be
on that pick a head coach.
Speaker 2: As soon as they asked me?
Speaker 7: Or is Jake too much of a football game? Too
much about he's he can wait too actually waited too much?
Speaker 2: He knows the names of coaches?
Speaker 5: Uh, he really does. This just triggered a memory in
my head. Yesterday it came out that Lane Kiffin is
the betting favorite to go to the New York Giants.
So I don't get how he's supposed to coach for
college teams.
Speaker 3: And an NFL you at least minimum, right, and.
Speaker 5: An NFL team, But so whenever the Giants played the Saints,
I went to that game, Lane Kiffin was also there,
So I'm like, how long have they been plotting this?
And maybe just maybe you're talking about it at that game,
but I don't know.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 4: Actually would be really fun.
Speaker 2: Speculating about Lane Kiff and is he gonna say? Why
would he leave All miss Why wouldn't he take the
l Sue job? Watch this Watch New York. I got
a quarterback that's the meat head's gonna get nine concussions
every season and the running back to oh, I got
one of the best receivers in the country.
Speaker 4: Team, I mean, they got a pretty win. The right,
that could be good. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2: I wonder what I wonder what odds are the best
whether that so he's odds on favorite Florida I think
I think it was one one for Giants.
Speaker 3: I don't know how y'all feel, but like Lank Kiff
and obviously he's one of the best play callers in football,
and I think he do well.
Speaker 2: I think you do well here. I think you do well.
Speaker 3: Florida is doing well at Old Miss. So this isn't
any slight at Lank because I think he'd be great.
But when somebody like that, that like all these people want,
and you're gonna have to convince him again to come
to your spot. I don't want anybody that I've got
to convince to come to LSU this time.
Speaker 2: I want somebody that's like I want there.
Speaker 3: Please you offer me. I will walk to Baton Rouge
if I have to get there.
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to take this offer and bring
it to my current school, right, I'm not going to
take that. You're offering me to come coach LSU. Whose
car are we taking? Let's go. That's what LSU needs.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, they don't like and I'm not saying
that if you had to convince that coach, they wouldn't
want to be here. But if you have to convince somebody,
that means there's also a place in their mind that
they would be okay not coming to coach LSU. And
that's the thing you would have to convince them on
is to get rid of whatever that other thought is.
Speaker 2: To come to LSU. I don't want that this time.
Speaker 3: I want a guy that when you call and say
I'm offering you to be the head coach at Louisiana
State University, he didn't even hang up the phone because
he's like, I'm here on boom like a cartoon.
Speaker 2: The thing that pisses me off so much about everything
that's the situation around it is because somebody brings up
in the chat. It's like, what what makes LSU so
desirable right at this second? Because of all the madness
that has happened around around the administration all? Like I said,
thank god ViRGE was here because ad job wasn't very
desirable at least right this second. And I get it.
Speaker 3: You have to you have to find a way from
administration to make things a little bit better, clear yourself
from it, make it a football only thing, So like
what makes a desirable LSU.
Speaker 2: Of course a top a top three football job, but
I get it, there's so much mess around it. And
now you're talking about sueing a coach to not pay them,
sue a former coach to not pay them. That makes
it less desirable, certainly. So you better be painting a
real nice picture to whoever you're going again or going after,
because I agree, I mean everything. Why leave something stable
to take something messy right now, even if it is
the LSU, that's a sad thing to say, for that
to even be a thought. And if that is the case,
and if that's going through creeping up in any whether
it's Lane Kiffin, whether it's drink, what's whether whoever you're
going after, even if that's even a thought in their brain,
a deterrent to take the LSU job. You've done this university,
at this service.
Speaker 6: It's a lot, Jeff.
Speaker 2: Anyway, all right, I know we've got to take a break.
Kissed me off so much I'm bad. No, I get
it though. I think that's what I think everybody's thinking
the same thing, right, we all are, And maybe what
we're saying is off base, because we don't know all
the facts. We just know what we what we know,
and I know that's not it, that's not all of it.
All right, we're looking for a break. We'll take it. Obviously,
we'll find our way back to this conversation.
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Speaker 1: The bench, from the locker room to the airwaves, gets
off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: On dude. All right, welcome back here to OTV Live.
Speaker 3: From the Raising Kines studio. It's aggressive typing over there, Budd,
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Speaker 2: It was the home keys. Oh I never took typing.
Oh we got a little we had of poll in
the chat earlier. Does Brian Dayball deserve a eulogy today?
Sixty one percent say yes, Thirty nine percent say no,
which surprisingly high amount of none.
Speaker 6: That is surprisingly high amount of No's.
Speaker 2: A lot of people, I guess just don't care NFL.
Speaker 6: Thirty nine percent people eulogies.
Speaker 2: Thirty people hate the eulogies.
Speaker 6: He do you think it's just Brian Table Maybe.
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly made a lot of burner accounts.
Speaker 4: Could have been, could have been. It's possible.
Speaker 2: So I will because this is a democracy. I will
do a eulogy for Brian day Ball later on the show,
but I will only do it at sixty one enthusiasm
out of respect for the thirtys.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: You need to, Okay, I go on, thank you, and.
Speaker 4: You drive a tough bargain. It takes a lot of
convincing you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm tough. Did y'all see that?
Speaker 3: UCLA is trying to move away from the Rose bul No,
I didn't see.
Speaker 2: That, but it's I don't know, it might be a
good idea, try to play it so Far.
Speaker 6: Oh wait, I did see that stadium.
Speaker 4: You've probably been to it. From what I hear. It's
not super close like to their campus.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, wait, the Rose Bull or so Far,
neither one of them is. Neither stadiums close.
Speaker 4: I didn't know where so Far was, but I had
always heard that way. Getting of the Rose wasn't the easiest.
Speaker 3: No, it's like in a neighborhood and it's incredibly hard
to get in and out of. And a great scene obviously,
But I mean you see LA, Like, what do y'all have?
Like what program? Yeah they got they got Jerry New
feel like they should just build their own. Tighten it
up a little bit, Yeah, maybe tighten it Yeah, I
mean they use people for all sorts of dumb things.
In California, twenty five thousand seat stadium. Yeah, who recently
did that?
Speaker 2: Uh? San Diego State built a brand new stadium.
Speaker 3: They tore down the Q nasty where I played, and
they built like snap Dragon Stadium.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's actually really nice too, it's.
Speaker 3: Like a soccer basically stadium, you know, yeah, just Southwestern.
Vandy's got a small one. That's nice. Yeah, they renovated that.
Did lane do that? Two lane is great?
Speaker 2: Was great.
Speaker 6: Vandy. I don't know about two lanes, but Vandy's is not.
Speaker 5: It felt like I was at a high school football
game in Texas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because we're so but like the end
zones are kind of cool unique, I guess, like you.
Speaker 5: Know, the and the air tonight thing they did.
Speaker 6: It was cool, but.
Speaker 3: You could tell like it's they got like brand new
on each end and then old alf like on the sides.
But you know, that's what you got to do. But
you know, hey, at least got something because when Flynn
and I played there, you could see straight from the
football field to the street fair enough.
Speaker 2: There was no stands in one of the end zones.
Speaker 3: There was like some tints that they went and got
an academy and like set in the end.
Speaker 6: Zone and everything was like in one area.
Speaker 5: Like the baseball stadium was like right across.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there's not a lot of room there. In Nashville.
Speaker 4: You get you get in a home run in Vandy
Stadium and make it into the football stadium.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Blair was telling me like all the time, like foul
balls will lay in the base our football stadium. M.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's literally right there. So I don't know.
Speaker 3: If u c LA didn't have the Rose Bowl, you
don't have that, you don't have a coach. You're also
the other team in l Ah.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 3: They got Jeoffrey, but maybe not if you hire a
new head coach and he doesn't want to keep Jerry.
Speaker 2: What if they just make Jerry head coach, you could
do it.
Speaker 4: I mean they're low down on the pecking order in
terms of like I would think, like desirability, why not
give him a shot.
Speaker 2: They got good uniforms, always have, always have gold face masks,
pretty nice.
Speaker 3: There are so many there's so many jobs that are open,
and there's so many big jobs that are open. Somebody's
gonna get a really bad coach. Somebody's getting stuck with
the bad coach for sure. And there's gonna be a
lot more jobs in college, and there's gonna be a
lot more jobs in the NFL. You're gonna have college
coaches go to the NFL. You're gonna have NFL coaches
go to college. But you're right, multiple people are gonna
get stuck in a bad situation.
Speaker 2: Like if you're Oklahoma State right now, who pull you fishing?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, who do you think you're going to go
get right now? That can change your program? You're horrid?
Speaker 2: What do you want? Since you fired Gundy?
Speaker 4: By the way, what's your goal? Like if you if
your goal is to hey can we score points and
get some excitement? I'm calling Eric Morris from North Texas
right now and hiring him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like even that, and I agree, I think
he's a really good coach. There's only like so many
of those guys, right. Just think about this, even at
the big schools. Yeah, a lot of schools are gonna
end up with really bad head coaches. There's gonna be
a lot of big schools that are gonna end up
with really first time or bad coordinators.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of coordinators canna be taking jobs
like Oklahoma State coordinators gonna be taking jobs like North Texas.
Just in your if the North Texas head coach goes
somewhere else, they're gonna be taking There's gonna be a
lot of first time head coaches that are coordinators and
big colleges having to replace those guys. So there's gonna
be a lot of people's careers and resumes getting a
lot better after the season.
Speaker 3: There's only so many right fits for coaches that can
go around, and that's you know, when you have this
many and you have this many high profile Like we're
talking about proud programs, not just Penn State, Florida and LSU.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech, who's very proud program. You know, Arkansas is open,
Oklahoma State and like all these jobs alburn like somebody's
getting a back coach and somebody's gonna be paying a
buyout in in three years time, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Jimmy Sexton. Just what's that name of that guy? Birdman?
That that guy, it's Birdman Man.
Speaker 3: I forgot you're from Louisiana. I like that bird You
know who Birdman is. It's good, pretty good.
Speaker 6: Oh No, I don't know what you're trying to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're all right, though, whoever said it earlier, Like
we haven't heard anything really out of Penn State, Florida, Arkansas?
Speaker 2: Whoever said that? Yeah, you're right, Junior sextet. Nothing you
haven't heard anything quiet.
Speaker 4: Haven't seen any governors on TV?
Speaker 2: I'm usually right, No, we haven't seen any governors.
Speaker 5: Not even not even Ronda Santas, who is like the
most out there governor.
Speaker 2: Tweets a lot.
Speaker 6: So all right, two QB system.
Speaker 2: Next, Matt loves a QB system. It's really hard when
you're the only quarterback plane to get in a rhythm.
I like to switch it up. What about it there was?
We should probably just talk about that when come back
to break.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, yeah, two QB system when we
come back.
Speaker 2: Matt's favorite topic.
Speaker 1: The bench.
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Speaker 3: One of Matt Flynn's favorite things to talk about is
a two quarterback system. He used to love, and I
mean love when he was in the game and then
here comes another quarterback trying out there to uh to
run a special ball play.
Speaker 2: Favorite time of a game. So Matt, I'll let you
start this conversation.
Speaker 3: Well, everybody on the team has a you know, the
opportunity to tap the top of their head, get a
little breather, come out of the game for a little bit,
except the quarterback. When I was playing, There's nothing more
that can get a quarterback out of rhythm, out of sync,
then having to sit on the sideline. Even still, you
still see it sometimes with I think we did a
did we do a wild cat this year where Nuss
kind of came off the field to do it?
Speaker 2: Or was that the Saints?
Speaker 3: I can't remember, No, because the one wild cat that
LSU did, they did it from the six yard line
on third and six.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he scooted over, scooted over at the
that's true.
Speaker 8: Uh So.
Speaker 2: The quarterback is a rhythm sport. It's just like anything.
It's like taking a picture out for a couple of
pitches and putting them back in. In baseball, you don't
see that. That didn't happen. Obviously we can't do it.
The rules wouldn't allow it. But it's the same mindset.
Speaker 5: Like you.
Speaker 2: You get in a rhythm. You see the field, you're
in the zone. You're the guy that calls the play,
the guys that call a snap count. You are the
engine that makes the whole vehicle go. And to be
taken out of that position, taking off the field is
it's tough to do. Now, it's not impossible. We've seen
successful dual quarterback systems before. University of Florida had it
and what six Chris Leek and Tibo Yeah, and then
O seven Parallel would come in and do something. There's
some really nice things, especially that Florida game, a lot
of you know, some third down packages, goal on packages,
things like that. And I'm not saying that it was
a bad thing, but it certainly didn't doesn't help a
quarterback in staying within that rhythm of a game. And
we all always talk about that air quote quote unquote
like the zone when quarterbacks feel it and the and
it's kind of an unexplainable what that really is, what
that really means. I think athletes will know what it
feels like to be in a zone, whether it's playing golf,
whether it's playing you know, throwing darts, whether it's whatever
you're doing Tidley winks that's right, horse shoes and hand grenades,
whatever it is, y'all understand, y'all get it, y'all know
what that feels like. And at the quarterback position, I
kind of I always explain it like this, like you
get into the rhythm of the game, the flow of
the game.
Speaker 3: You can feel the ebbs and flows, the ups and downs.
Sometimes you got to push the ball, sometimes you got
to pull back a little bit. There's different and you
feel all that when you're in the game. Also, like
there's a there's a certain vision that comes with it,
like if you play Madden or NCAA football, like you
understand like they do a lot with the crowd noise
now where like if it's a tight situation, like the
field vision narrows, like you don't see all the buttons.
Speaker 2: Like it's harder to play. Well, that's the case in
real life because it's trying to simulate that. So if
you're a young quarterback, that's why young quarterbacks struggle sometimes.
If you are your vision is a lot narrower than
it usually is, Like you kind of have tunnel vision.
That's why people say they can't get through their reads. Well,
it's really hard to do when you got people bearing
down on you. You haven't played a lot, you're fresh
in the fresh into the game. And then let's just
say you can see it's a fifty three yard wide field,
Like you got this tunnel vision where you can clearly
see twenty yards of the field complete, a pass that
scoots out a little bit about twenty two complete, a
pass that was twenty five complete, another pass year in
the rhythmic game, they having six success. Now I can
see thirty five yards. And then eventually you get quarterbacks
that you say, man, this guy's just in the zone.
That means he's seeing all fifty three yards of the field.
He's seeing everything that has happened in top to bottom,
he's seeing underfronts overfront, he's seeing Sam on the ball,
he's seeing hand signals from the mic linebacker to the safety,
safety to the corner corner to the nickel. You can
you can see everything, you can hear everything. Everything slows down.
And it's hard to explain to somebody that's never felt that,
but people have felt that in different things in life.
Like you're just hyper concentrated, and that's what it is.
That's what happens when you're tight and playing tight, playing
under pressure, playing like I can't make a mistake. That
that vision narrows th one interception, that vision narrows a
little bit. Back now, the great quarterbacks, that vision widens
and you see the whole field faster than others. Sometimes
it's slower, though not quarterbacks that are new, quarterbacks that
are young, not a lot of experience on the road
at a way environment, that vision is very tight. Yeah,
that's kind of how I always explain it to people,
and that's a really basic way to explain it. But
I think it gets the point across that getting into
the rhythm is a huge thing and a huge advantage
for a quarterback or any position. And when you change
that up and you do like a two quarterback system.
When you take a quarterback.
Speaker 3: Out on a third down or a fourth down or
a big play, that vision narrows and you kind of
get you out of that rhythm.
Speaker 2: Now, some quarterbacks are better at it to get out
of it. But yeah, that's just like a little basic
explanation of what I believe the zone means for a quarterback.
So for you, you would rather.
Speaker 3: You would just have one guy come in and if
that guy can't get it done, then he gets replaced.
So you'd rather see more like we saw in Tuscaloosa
than you know, Hey, you get two series, and you're
gonna get a series, and you get two more and
you get two And I did.
Speaker 2: And I listened to Frank Talk yesterday and I didn't
hear anything that said that there's going to be a
two quarterback system.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: He said both quarterbacks would play. I believe, I believe
that's the right. I don't want to miss quote anything,
but he said, and this is going to take the
first reps, but both quarterbacks are going to play. There's
a plan in place for them. What does that look like?
How does that operate? I think it's better to do.
Like if you want to get vam Bura in the
ball and get him, get him some time in there.
Speaker 2: I believe a series situation, a series in series out
or Garrett gets three series, vam Buren gets one series.
How over that looks, or maybe Frank's just playing on
blowing him out and he know Van Buren's gonna play
the fourth quarter. I don't know, like that's it could
be a lot of different things. But I don't like
to see and I'm not saying this that that this
can't be successful. I don't want to see van Buren
come in if it's third and eight plus, because he
gives you the option, you know, a little bit more
of an option with his with his legs to scramble. Yeah,
like if there's a package in place a third and short,
or there's there's ways to do it where it's okay
and he doesn't really screw up the rhythm. I just
want there to be like a good, clean, crisp plan
that makes sense, that helps elevate both quarterbacks instead of
bringing him back down a little bit. Because it's hard.
Speaker 3: It's hard to switch, it's hard to give up reps
as a quarterback and stay in that rhythm and that
doesn't help them play better. Sally like nuts like you're
trying to get him back to where he was he
used to see all fifty three. He's seeing a third
right now, right, it's just happened. It's just not clicking
for him. Yeah, because he's pressing, pressing. They haven't had
a lot of Success's gonna be my last vision from Garrett.
They're a narrow narrative. It's not gonna help him to
throw another guy in there. That's gonna be My question
is when you know that you might be one bad
throwaway from getting replaced, how difficult is that to not
press because you feel like you gotta be perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just gotta have that dog and that
ja in you like came the third. All right, we'll
take a break.
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