WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:08.679 Maculated voice in all Media, the Alternatives alternative Chuck o'celly, 2 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:13.199 twenty fifth day of May twenty sixteen. According to that 3 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:15.560 thing we call a calendar, This is the O'Kelly Effect, 4 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:20.320 broadcast live on American Freedom Radio at Americanfreedomradio dot com. 5 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:22.399 We do welcome you, no matter how it is you 6 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:25.160 decided to find us, whether it's further on down the stream, 7 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:29.280 through the archives, your applicable application, your final slab of choice, 8 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.640 whatever it may be that you have decided to access 9 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:36.719 this show, welcome anyway. Just after eight pm here on 10 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:39.320 the East coast of the artist formerly known as America. 11 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:43.079 And guess what we're gonna have kind of a different 12 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:47.000 discussion tonight. Why well, you know, it seems to me 13 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:50.799 as though, unless you're following websites like Gawker dot com, 14 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:56.359 you're not really keeping up on the whole. Jeffrey Epstein saga, 15 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:01.719 this thing, you know, it hit my news feed somewhere 16 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:05.000 at the beginning of this year really intensely and then 17 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:09.439 seem to go away oddly enough. And you would think 18 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:14.519 that a story that involves you know, big name politicians, 19 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:19.519 you know, public figures of all sorts, gee, lawyers, people 20 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.359 with last names like Clinton, Bush, Trump. You know, all 21 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.280 of those things coming together into one singular nexus with 22 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:29.280 a nefarious character. That might be the kind of thing 23 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:37.760 that's newsworthy, but instead we're following the Trumpsters twitter feed right, Well, 24 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:42.200 not on this show. So my guest tonight is Ed Opperman. Okay, 25 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:46.920 private investigator, extraordinaire, interesting character in and of himself, a 26 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:50.000 guest on this show before, certainly a guy who runs 27 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:53.040 his own show on American Freedom Radio and many other networks. 28 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:57.640 Absolutely the Opperman Report, which you can access at I 29 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:01.319 believe the Opperman Report dot com. I seem to find 30 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:04.120 it by a speaker and YouTube and stuff like that. 31 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.040 But he does have a membership section where you get 32 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:09.479 things that you don't necessarily get out in the public 33 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:12.039 as well. I'm sure we'll touch upon that as we 34 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:14.960 go further in this discussion, but our focus for the 35 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:18.960 most part should be on this. Jeffrey Epstein saga. I 36 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.000 think Ed, how you doing tonight? 37 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:22.319 Very good? 38 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:24.120 And as you know, I am an interesting character. 39 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:27.800 How's the gout check? No, it's going, you know. I 40 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:30.360 love pointing out that you yourself are just an interesting 41 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:34.560 character to begin with, you know, and maybe maybe there's 42 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:36.639 a little bit of prejudice here because of that, you know, 43 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.080 Northeastern kind of us attitude, And it is the way 44 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:43.639 it is. And you and I have absolutely trod in 45 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:47.439 the same mud together things like that on occasion, not 46 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:50.680 necessarily at the same time, but we both know the landmarks, right. 47 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:52.919 Yeah. 48 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:54.319 Remember the time when we were talking off I think 49 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:54.840 it was all fair. 50 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:56.759 We started talking about that guy we know, brother Frank, 51 00:02:56.800 --> 00:03:01.000 you know all right, yes, by the Manucci Frank Good 52 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:04.159 And there was a guy who you know and remember, 53 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:05.159 okay for. 54 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:07.240 The listeners, you guys remember earlier in the week I 55 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.159 was talking about inquirer stories and how I know they 56 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:13.400 get written right, Well, one of the many figures that 57 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:16.360 I've known that has had a story written on him 58 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:20.159 was brother Frank Manucci. Now what happened was HBO ran 59 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:24.400 this Mob Stories series. I don't know if you remember that, Ed, 60 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:28.199 Oh yeah, Well they had a thing about getting out 61 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.800 of the mob. Now, most of it was a bunch 62 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.560 of guys who were rats. You know, of course, you're Sammy. 63 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:37.120 The Gravano's have to come up in different people that 64 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:40.479 were informants and things like that over the years, and 65 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.000 somehow or other they threw brother Frank in there, even 66 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:45.599 though he had never been an informant, never been a turncoat. 67 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.159 He had just basically walked away from dealing with the 68 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.919 lu Casey's because he was tied into the nexus of 69 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:58.280 the Hell's Angels, the Nomads, right, and the mob connections 70 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:01.360 there in New York. And interesting guy even with his 71 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:05.000 lineage alone, because this is a guy who you know 72 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:08.280 was Italian and Irish. I mean, gee, why am I 73 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:11.639 identifying with that? But anyway, Italian and Irish, and his 74 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:16.680 grandparents had names like o'banian, right, And there was another 75 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:18.759 one whose name doesn't jump right to my mind, but 76 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.959 somebody else who was a significant figure in the Chicago 77 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:25.800 underworld at the very same time that o'banian was his 78 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.279 mother I think was O'Banion's daughter. And then of course 79 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:31.360 his father was an Italian whose name escapes me at 80 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:33.560 the moment, But either way, it was kind of a 81 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:37.680 fascinating thing. It was sort of a weird connection nexus thing. 82 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:42.319 And meanwhile, he got out of the mob by turning 83 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.079 his life around and deciding to become this like motorcycle 84 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:49.480 riding preacher. And it turns out me and I both 85 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:52.240 know this guy. Yeah, that's right. 86 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:53.959 For all the people. I always catch hell all the 87 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:55.560 time because I always go, oh, yeah, oh I got 88 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:57.399 a story about so and so. Oh yeah I met him. 89 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:59.199 I met him, you know, and everybody always gives me 90 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:01.160 all about it. But now we have an eyewitness, Okay, 91 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.879 man Shock talking about some guy out of the blue. 92 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:05.439 We both know the same guy who was a real 93 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.560 character himself. By the way, he was a real character. 94 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:11.759 Oh right. And again, like I said, with the Inquirer stories, 95 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.040 though years after he was out of all that, and 96 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:19.759 he's just the motorcycle riding preacher guy. Right. The Inquirer 97 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:21.680 comes to a town, a little known town in New 98 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:25.240 Jersey called Whiting, and sits down with him and actually 99 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:27.560 does a you know, a full page spread thing where 100 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:29.879 they're you know, showing him when he was younger, showing 101 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:33.720 him when he was the president National President of the Nomads, 102 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.759 which is a subset of the Hell's Angels and stuff 103 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:40.160 like that, and explaining all about his criminal background and 104 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:44.759 his turnaround and all that, and yeah, character, that's that's 105 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:47.560 one way to look at him too. So I'm winding. 106 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:50.040 I'm dropping you in the same box, aren't I. 107 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:53.399 Well, he wound up testifying at the Robert Plake murder 108 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:56.720 trial because Blake had hired him to make some threatening 109 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:58.959 phone calls. And this is when the guy was a preacher, 110 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.279 born again preacher, and he was still he still made 111 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.839 the phone calls. But hey, you know, brother Frank, he's 112 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:04.279 a good guy. 113 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:07.279 Well, you know, no matter how he extracted himself from 114 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:12.279 criminal activity, it's not like he didn't still have friends, 115 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:19.399 voice and kind of an imposing figure. Actually, I'll tell 116 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:21.720 you a funny story off the air about how imposing 117 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:25.600 a figure he could be. But it was pretty interesting. Meanwhile, 118 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:28.639 you never know what kind of characters you're going to 119 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:32.360 run into when you're run in certain circles. Now, like 120 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.160 I said, tonight's focuses on Jeffrey Epstein, I wound up 121 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:39.079 telling that whole other story. But let's give to people 122 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:42.800 in case they've never heard of Jeffrey Epstein. Who are 123 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:43.759 we talking about it? 124 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.319 You know, it's funny because you were saying, how you 125 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:49.360 know he's been on your radar about a year. I 126 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.279 was looking at my notes. The first notes I did 127 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:53.680 was on Epstein was a year ago in May May 128 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.720 third and back when I wanted to do my first 129 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.199 show on Epstein. I looked around. It was really no 130 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:04.160 guests available. I had on Robert Morrow. I remember reading 131 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:07.480 a story in a magazine about five years or so 132 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:10.920 before I had the show. No, No, I had to be 133 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:12.240 up to two thousand eight, because he's up us in 134 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:13.720 two thousand and eight, but it was around around of ten, 135 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:16.120 and I read about this billionaire down in Palm Beach 136 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:19.759 and he was luring these little kids into his home. 137 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:24.439 He would have one kid, a middle school age little girl, 138 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.519 and he would pay her to pay another little girl 139 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:30.720 two hundred bucks to get get them over to the 140 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:34.160 mansion and then for massage, a nude massage. But then 141 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.399 once the little girl was up there in his mansion 142 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:41.480 there he would start escalating things until he would molest 143 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.160 these kids. You know so. 144 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:49.480 Well. And the odd thing is ed Unfortunately you've had 145 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.360 to run across see I hear that sigh, right, you 146 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.639 run across this kind of mo before this is there's 147 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:59.759 nothing unique to this. A lot of times these predatory 148 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:03.759 guys who prey upon underage girls or boys, doesn't matter. 149 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:10.160 Fact is they'll turn around and get regular with somebody, okay, 150 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:13.519 and then they use them as a procurer so to 151 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:19.639 speak all right, And this, oddly enough, was the basis 152 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:22.000 of a script for one of those you know, wonderful 153 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.759 mainstream TV shows that you know occasionally reveals an element 154 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:30.600 of truth to you, although it's quite disguised by being 155 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.080 a fictional you know, none of the characters here are 156 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:36.960 based on anyone in real life, et cetera. Right, Remember 157 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:40.799 Law and Order SBU turned around and basically did the 158 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:42.159 Epstein story, didn't they. 159 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:44.799 I saw that, and I never noticed. 160 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:47.120 Oh no, they did. They had this guy who was 161 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:51.240 super rich and he had recruited, you know, some woman 162 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.879 who now had you know, aged out of his range, 163 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:57.360 but she was still being like a procurer for him 164 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:01.080 to bring in underage girls to get him into the situation. Okay, 165 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:03.440 we'll pay you five hundred bucks and you know, you 166 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:06.720 give him a massage and then he escalates the situation 167 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.919 and all that kind of stuff. Like I said, it's 168 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:16.080 not an exact match, but you know, eerily similar. They 169 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:18.080 did the same thing, and a lot of people you 170 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.440 can look it up. Actually, I'm sure there's people have 171 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:23.919 written about this. But I remember watching this episode myself 172 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.240 and saying, damn, that's the Epstein story right there. 173 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:31.759 Yeah, I didn't catch that one. I didn't catch that one. 174 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:34.559 But the story has started to take to pick up 175 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:38.200 steam in the press because because Prince Andrew was involved 176 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.840 there for a while. But the thing is what Epstein 177 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.000 and he was more than these little kids. Word got 178 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:46.080 out back to the cops. 179 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.639 They did a real thorough investigation on the local cops 180 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:51.600 down there in Palm Beach. That are real investigation on. 181 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:54.120 They put a camera across the street from his mansion 182 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:55.440 down there by the way his mansion. 183 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:57.120 Then I found it just recently. He's like a walking 184 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:58.879 distance to mar A Lago for Donald Trump. 185 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:04.600 Yeah, well, no surprise. You know, people say, well, look, 186 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:08.799 no surprise. Billionaires you know, are obviously going to congregate 187 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:12.240 in certain areas and all that. But you know, it's 188 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:16.159 not as though this is an isolated guy. He seems 189 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.000 to be have connections to well, every time he turned around, 190 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:22.240 somebody that you know, whose name you already know. 191 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.440 Yeah, and just I was just telling off the air 192 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:28.879 a second ago. Pierce Redman, we were talking about this 193 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:32.480 the other day, and he sent me a whole slew 194 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:38.080 of ProQuest documents that he had gotten from a listener, 195 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:41.240 a ton of new stuff I've never seen before where 196 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:48.799 Epstein was My god, He's running like a basketball team 197 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:53.679 in the Virgin Islands, and an orchestra, a teen orchestra 198 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.840 in the Virgin Islands for the schools down there, a 199 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:57.919 science fair. 200 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.039 All kind of this guy. You know, the amount of. 201 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:04.320 Money he must really have must be way more than 202 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:07.399 we know about, because he's given money to Harvard and 203 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:09.960 he's having a building named after some other guy you 204 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:11.000 know in Harvard. 205 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:14.000 Just really really. 206 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.559 Really really up there Clinton. We just came out in 207 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:18.799 the past week that Clinton flew on his plane twenty 208 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:21.600 six times. We had known previously that he's flew on 209 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:25.399 his plane eleven times, but it just came out there 210 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.840 was twenty six times total, and five of those times 211 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:31.200 he had ditched his Secret Service detail in order to 212 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:34.000 fly without them, without any kind of record or any 213 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:37.600 kind of witnesses on the plane with Epstein. Epstein has 214 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:41.440 his own seven forty seven. He has his own island 215 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:44.799 down to the Virgin Islands. The wife of the President 216 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:47.720 of the Virgin Islands works for Epstein. He has another 217 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:50.639 big garranch out in New Mexico, and he has the 218 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:56.399 most expensive piece of townhouse in Manhattan. I believed on 219 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:58.720 seventy first Street, and it's right across the street, by 220 00:11:58.720 --> 00:11:59.919 the way, from another guy, Bill con. 221 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:02.399 Neighbors. 222 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:07.000 That interesting, yeah, because when you hear those stories about Cosby, 223 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:08.879 and by the way too, in front of Cosby's house, 224 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:10.639 there's a little police hut out there, a little little 225 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:13.039 one of those little tiny mobile police things where a 226 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:15.639 cop stands in there and guards the neighborhood, you know. 227 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:17.960 And there's all these stories when you hear these stories 228 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:22.759 about Cosby where he's just he's carrying out a comatose 229 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:24.840 woman who's just been drugged out of his place down 230 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:26.759 and taking her down to the street and dumping her 231 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:28.840 into a cab, you know, and you wonder, well, how 232 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.240 is he getting away with that? And like the book, 233 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:34.159 what's going on across the street, it's even ten times worse, 234 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:34.840 you know. 235 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.360 Yeah. See, now I've got mixed feelings about the Cosby thing. 236 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:44.159 I told you this before. I'm not convinced that all 237 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:46.720 of it is legitimate. I mean, it's it's a huge 238 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:51.639 amount now of women that have come forward, but I'm 239 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:55.440 not convinced that it's all entirely legitimate. However, it is 240 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:57.960 weird when you consider that if this guy's across the 241 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:01.919 streets from this Epstein, who you know, in the mainstream 242 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:06.279 press is generally just described as this mysterious financier of 243 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:10.039 great means. Right, He's somebody who's just made his money 244 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:13.080 in money, it seems like the way that they report it. 245 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.320 And yeah, earlier this week Fox News did say that 246 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:19.879 that what Bill Clinton had been on there, like you said, 247 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:23.440 more than two dozen times on these private you know, 248 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:27.120 these private flights which God knows what goes on, and 249 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:29.399 God knows where they're going, and God knows what happens 250 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:33.039 when they get their kind of deal. Although a lot 251 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.120 of that information has started to come out, and like 252 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:38.159 I said, even what's been bandied about before is like 253 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:42.320 you know, his Black Book, Epstein's Black Books supposedly, right, 254 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:47.840 you've seen that stuff around, right, Oh, yeah, yeah, the 255 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:48.360 Black Book. 256 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:50.039 What's interesting about the Black Book. 257 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.960 There was like twenty nine phone numbers to reach Clinton, 258 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.639 you know, Bill Clinton in the Black Book. But what 259 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.279 you never hear reported at all in the Black Book 260 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:02.120 is about Trump is in the Black Book, but also 261 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:05.879 Trump's ex wife, Evanna is in the Black Book. His 262 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:07.679 daughter Ivanka is in the Black Book, and only his 263 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:12.000 sons are in the Black Book as well. So, yeah, 264 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:15.279 a lot of weird names in the Black Book. And 265 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:17.639 it's one of the interesting things too, is that his butler, 266 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:22.559 who was a witness down there in the Palm Beach 267 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:25.200 mansion and described, you know, these little girls coming over 268 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:26.960 up to three a day, coming over to the house 269 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.039 three a day. And also to if you read the 270 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:33.399 probable Cause Affidavid that they used to get the search warrant, 271 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.840 they describe inside that home when you walked in there 272 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:39.679 through the kitchen entrance to all these girls was coming 273 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:41.360 through the kitchen, they'd go up the staircase of the 274 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:45.399 massage room. There was all over the house was framed 275 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:49.360 naked pictures of underage girls throughout the home. So yeah, right, 276 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:51.519 so anybody who walked in that home, including his butler, 277 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.600 was witness and possession of shild pornography. And a butler, 278 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:57.440 you know, after Epstein got in some trouble, he stole 279 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:59.440 the Black Book and he tried to sell it and 280 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:01.679 they threw him him in jail for more time than 281 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:02.600 Epstein got in jail. 282 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:08.399 Wow, that's that's just bizarre beyond I mean, but kind 283 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:12.480 of typical considering. I mean, look, I take the attitude 284 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:15.759 constantly that uh, if if you've got the if you've 285 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:17.840 got the cash, you don't have to do the time 286 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.480 for any crime, right, I mean it just it just 287 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:23.240 seems that way that you can become teflon if you 288 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.080 pay the uh you know, if you pay the entrance. Strange, 289 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:30.039 all right, Interesting, this guy also has ties to people 290 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:32.679 in the legal field that are pretty well known, at 291 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:36.080 least that's what I'm looking at, uh, you know, allegations 292 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:40.000 about what Dershowitz even being tied to him. I saw a. 293 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:43.600 Bunch of stuff like this, Yeah, Dershwitz, h was asked. 294 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:45.240 Before Epstein got busted. 295 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:50.639 Dershwitz was ranting and ranting and raving about his buddy Epstein, 296 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:52.960 what a brilliant man he was, and even if he 297 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:54.480 wasn't a billionaire, we'd still be. 298 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:56.080 Friends because he's just he's that kind of guy. 299 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:58.440 If he was selling hot dogs on Cony Island, we'd 300 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:01.120 we'd still be quick friends because that's such a brilliant mind. 301 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:05.840 And uh then later on, when uh, Dershowitz was pointed 302 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:09.080 out by Virginia Roberts as being being you know, forced 303 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:13.559 to uh service Dershowitz, you know, by this young victim 304 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:14.240 Virginia Roberts. 305 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:16.519 He said, why don't even know Epstein? Who's Who's that Epstein? 306 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:17.480 Who I don't know? 307 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:18.320 You know? 308 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:24.440 And he goes on to to to uh saying this 309 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:28.320 girl is a liar. So the girl sued him for defamation, 310 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:32.159 and now he's a defendant in a defamation lawsuit. So 311 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:34.960 he turns around, he goes back and he sues her lawyers, 312 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:36.679 and he's threatened to sue her lawyers. He's going to 313 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:38.919 sue the lawyers and report them to the Bar Association. 314 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:41.360 I'm a respect you should hear that. You should hear 315 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:46.960 his filings. I'm a respected Harvard professor, you know, and 316 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:49.759 these people are questioning me. He sues her lawyers, He 317 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:53.080 sues the reports them to the Bar Association. About three 318 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:57.440 weeks ago, you don't hear. On a Friday night, they 319 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.639 announced the settlement because her lawyers suited him right back, 320 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.240 you know. And then that's the settlement. That's a well, 321 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:07.359 we're going to drop our lawsuits. But and the thing 322 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.640 was that he really he really lost. He says, we're 323 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:15.279 gonna drop our lawsuits. But the Virginia Roberts attorneys had 324 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:17.000 to admit, well, it was a mistake. It was a 325 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:21.799 tactical error to include Epstein in this litigation. 326 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:24.279 Where we accused him of these of this stuff. 327 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:28.920 But they settle that out, but the lawsuit of Virginia 328 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:32.960 Roberts against Dershowitz continues, so that that's a huge victory 329 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:36.480 for our side. I really think in the courts, ultimately 330 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:37.799 we're gonna win this whole thing. 331 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:43.000 Yeah, it's crazy, right because look if everybody and this 332 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:45.599 does happen in a lot of these high profile cases, right, 333 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:47.920 so all of a sudden, suits start flying back and 334 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:51.839 forth and you have all sorts of legal maneuvering go on, 335 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:53.680 and you kind of have to wait for the dust 336 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:56.759 to settle in order to figure out what's actually happened. Now, 337 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:01.519 if there was no legitimacy to her lawsuit, that would 338 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:04.079 have been part of the bargain. Let's just say I think, 339 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:06.799 you know, I mean, look, I'm not a legal scholar. 340 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.559 I'm not somebody who necessarily totally understands the courts. But 341 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.440 when you see these things happen and somebody doesn't drop 342 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:15.720 their suit like that, when everybody's you know, shaking hands 343 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:17.960 and saying okay, okay, let's let this go. Let's let 344 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.759 that go, you know, back and forth, and this still stands. 345 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:25.640 That usually means there's a bit more than a bone 346 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:28.799 to chew on there, you know, there's some meat to it, right. 347 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:31.640 Oh no, yeah, I definitely think that's a victory for 348 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:34.880 the for the Roberts side of the Virginia Roberts are 349 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:39.079 the victims of Epstein against the abusers, you know, And I. 350 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:40.519 Case, I gotta put that the press release. 351 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:42.000 I got to put that up on the opper roomport 352 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:46.039 member section in two think just upload a whole bunch 353 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:47.559 of documents on there about the epsoin case. 354 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:48.920 There was also just. 355 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:55.599 Recently, this bizarre little lawsuit was filed in Riverside, California, 356 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:03.960 about three weeks ago by someone named Katie Johnson, and 357 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:06.160 she claims that she was one of the victims of Epstein. 358 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.039 She was suing for one hundred million dollars. She was 359 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:09.960 suing both Epstein and Trump. 360 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:14.000 Okay, Now, what's odd about this case that stands out 361 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:17.519 to me, if I recall this case properly, is that 362 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:20.279 there's been a lot of claims now that it's a 363 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:25.640 fictitious person, it's a fictitious address, there's fictitious phone numbers involved, 364 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:29.440 all kinds of stuff like this, What have you learned 365 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:29.880 about it? 366 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.279 Yes, it is. It is the name to me, anyone 367 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:35.559 is I think there was twenty six Katie Johnson's in 368 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:38.680 that age range in Riverside and then there with the 369 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:39.119 phone number. 370 00:19:39.160 --> 00:19:39.880 I traced the phone. 371 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:41.880 Number back and a lot of people are reporting that 372 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:44.319 it traces back to a dentist office that was disconnected. 373 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:46.200 But I have a trace back to a cell phone 374 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:49.759 service after that. But I was just told the other 375 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:51.480 day that it's starting to ring now. It wasn't ringing 376 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:54.640 when when it was first file. 377 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:56.880 But now here's the thing with that, Okay. 378 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:02.880 In the lawsuit, this titious person is suing both Epstein 379 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:07.519 and Trump, okay, and also to the laws cited or bogus. 380 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:11.799 She's not signing the correct laws to get with in 381 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:16.000 a legitimate lawsuit. But there's some interesting stuff in that 382 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:19.519 paperwork where she talks about she has a witness who 383 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:23.519 is a party planner for Epstein, who is willing to 384 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:27.119 come forward and testify. Now that's an interesting addition to 385 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.440 this bogus lawsuit. Why would that be in there? There's 386 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.599 no David right, there's no affidavit from this mysterious witness. Right, 387 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:36.000 but it's mentioned if there's we have this witness who 388 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:40.960 is willing to come forward and testify. Now, I've been 389 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:43.480 involved in some of these kind of cases before. Okay, 390 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:48.759 where you find a lawsuit against a celebrity, you want 391 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:53.359 to avoid bad publicity, So this negotiation goes on before. 392 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:55.640 Oh glory already does this all the time, right. 393 00:20:57.000 --> 00:20:59.920 This year? Well truthfully, right, just let me break in 394 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:01.759 or a second here. Truthfully, what happens to a lot 395 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:06.359 of public figures routinely, in fact, is that they're sued 396 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:10.039 by individuals for all sorts of things. Okay, This is 397 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:13.920 why as a prominent public figure, you almost always need 398 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:18.200 a legal team, because because people will allege one way 399 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:20.720 or another that you were somewhere, that you did something, 400 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:25.119 that your a brand of entertainment did something, your products 401 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:29.200 did something. You're constantly actually kind of confronted by this. 402 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:32.720 Like when Trump made that point about, hey, look, you know, 403 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:34.880 I realize I got lawsuits against me, but that happens 404 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:37.799 all the time. That was one of the most legitimate 405 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:40.599 points I ever heard of make, because if you're a 406 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:44.640 figure that rises to that level in the public consciousness, 407 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.240 you're almost guaranteed that you're going to receive lawsuits no 408 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:51.759 matter what you do anyway. Okay, So this kind of 409 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:54.880 thing happens, and most times it's either renuisance or if 410 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:59.440 there is anything that even remotely approaches you know, something 411 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:02.079 that's actually in a lot of cases, this is why 412 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:04.640 there's all sorts of weird settlements to come out, because 413 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:07.960 it'll do more damage to them to actually fight it 414 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:11.440 and things like that. I mean, am I misrepresenting this 415 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:13.880 in any way? Ed? No? 416 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:17.200 Listen. I used to follow this guy online years ago 417 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:20.480 named Wayne Mansu. He was a real character. I love 418 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:22.400 this guy. He was the craziest person in the world. 419 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:26.160 And he would sue NASA and as a co defendant, 420 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:28.880 he'd sue Madonna and then he'd see his mother in 421 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:33.039 law and his stepmother. Was that they were all in 422 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:36.680 conspiracy together to plot against him. Guy was, you know, 423 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:40.759 come on, man, I loved it. I love this guy. 424 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:43.960 It's just brilliant, like all kinds of crazy. He's just 425 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.319 suing everybody, right. And I'll bet you something about this 426 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:50.480 guy though before you say anything else, because I don't 427 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:53.160 know this story yet, but I'll bet you anything that 428 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:55.880 every once in a while this guy got paid no 429 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:57.720 matter how ridiculous his claims were. 430 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:00.279 No, they would throw him in the mental instition you 431 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:03.240 would get on. Now they throw these cases out, it 432 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:04.839 is you can go. You can go for the judge 433 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:08.119 and say listen, summary judgment gets thrown right out, which 434 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:10.960 which happened with this Katie Johnson thing. Now, what I 435 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:13.319 suspect though, could be going on with this Katie Johnson 436 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:16.799 thing is if there's someone a real lawyer. Because you 437 00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:19.960 filed this pro say a propers and file without lawyer, 438 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:24.680 I suspect there is a lawyer out there that has 439 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:27.279 a real client, and that there is a real party 440 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:29.880 planner okay, that exists out there that is wanting to 441 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:32.960 come forward and testify. Now, maybe this guy's in negotiation 442 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:34.480 with the Trumpet empty people or not. 443 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:35.200 I don't know. 444 00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:38.119 But you get to a point where you say to them, listen, 445 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:40.680 if we don't get some money right now, we're gonna file. 446 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:44.519 Okay, But if you file, you're pretty much shot. You WoT. 447 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.400 But if you file a bogus suit then has some 448 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:51.480 of the details in it, that's a nice shot across 449 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:51.880 the bow. 450 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:54.079 Hey man, we're serious. 451 00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:56.599 We're gonna file this again with a real lawyer. With 452 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.680 a real using our real names, and attach that affidavit 453 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.279 with a party planner we want to see it. 454 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:04.599 Yeah, I wouldn't even think of that kind of strategy. 455 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:07.920 So what you're saying is it's it's like the quick 456 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.920 fake out. Okay, the lawsuit we know is going to 457 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:13.279 fall apart as soon as anybody gets to look at it. 458 00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:17.240 But but here's the thing. If they actually look at 459 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:20.599 it and examine the details and go back to their 460 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:22.960 client and say, hey, are any of these details legitimate, 461 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.599 and they go, well, there's a couple of things in 462 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:28.319 there that are for real. Even though the lawsuit isn't 463 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:31.240 for real, you can say, okay, listen, that right there 464 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:34.839 is just us showing you part of our hands. It's 465 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:35.519 a poker game. 466 00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:35.799 Really. 467 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:37.759 It's like, you know, you got two up and three 468 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.119 down here right, and you're guessing what the other three are. 469 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:42.680 But you know, we've just shown you we got to 470 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:45.880 pair up and doesn't necessarily mean they can win, but 471 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:47.200 they got something right. 472 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:50.720 Yeah, we mean business. We're ready to go public. Here's 473 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:52.440 what we got. Take a look, and we're not gonna 474 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:54.200 put our names on it. But the next time we 475 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:55.599 do this, we're gonna put our names on it. 476 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:00.839 If we have to. And you know Empsteiness settled, you 477 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:02.720 know that we know about it. 478 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:05.079 About twenty of these cases for a million a piece each, 479 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:08.119 so you know, it's not like they don't have money 480 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:12.799 to pay this stuff off. Trump. You know, Trump himself too, 481 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:18.319 he fights a lot of this stuff. But he just 482 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.599 had an interesting lawsuit himself where he was sued by 483 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:28.599 a young model from Trump Modeling agency. Trump has two 484 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:32.319 modeling companies. One is a Trump Modeling Agency, another one 485 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:38.920 is Trump Entertainment Management, right. And one interesting thing is 486 00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:43.480 I spotted in there was that he had imported two 487 00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.240 hundred and fifty young girls as little as twelve years old, 488 00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:52.680 using these H one b vss to bring them into 489 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:55.200 the country. One of them was this young girl, this 490 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.960 little girl from Jamaica, and he brought her here saying 491 00:25:57.960 --> 00:25:59.519 that she was gonna make eight thousand dollars a year. 492 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:01.960 He's gonna say, H one visa might I might be 493 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:04.200 H one B one H one. I'm not sure what 494 00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:08.119 she is, but these visas. And when she got here, 495 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:10.599 you know, he put her up in a place and 496 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:13.240 got her modeling gigs, you know, and drove around in 497 00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:16.319 private cards and stuff like that, and surely made thirty 498 00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:19.839 eight hundred dollars. He kept eighty percent of her income. 499 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:22.039 So she sued. 500 00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:22.839 Trump Modeling agency. 501 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.480 She sued Trump for slavery, basically for being a slave 502 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:28.119 and you know, having them take all her money and all. 503 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:28.759 Kinds of stuff like that. 504 00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:34.119 But it's interesting to me that Donald Trump made five 505 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.119 million dollars. By the way, he declared five million dollars 506 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.240 an income from this Trump modeling agency. Okay, his modeling endeavors. 507 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.480 He also met his wife, Milania, the one he's married 508 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.279 to right now. He met her because she was a 509 00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:51.880 model for one of these modeling agencies and he owns. Okay, 510 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:55.119 so let's let's let's look at the pattern here. Okay, 511 00:26:55.559 --> 00:27:00.000 here's a guy. Okay, he's making money doing other stuff, 512 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:01.480 but but he wants to have he wants to be 513 00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:04.319 a modeling agent. Okay, he wants a modeling agency. 514 00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:05.359 Sure, why not? 515 00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.880 When I would do it? Listen, Chuck, I would do 516 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.440 it in a minute. Okay, if I had the money. 517 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:14.440 That's that's right up my line. That's what I would do. Now, 518 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:17.119 he has no problem creeping on these girls who are 519 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.680 working for him as models because he married one Okay, 520 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:23.119 he dated a couple, he married one, Okay, right. What 521 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.480 troubles me though, is he's importing kids as young as 522 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:27.119 twelve years old. 523 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:29.000 And out of. 524 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.440 Out of all of his businesses, this guy that he 525 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.799 has when all the construction companies, of all the h 526 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.240 one beat visa applications that he's filed, he's filed one 527 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:43.200 thousand in total for all of his companies, and out 528 00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:46.799 of that, two hundred and fifty were to import little 529 00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:51.720 girls from foreign countries to the United States, where one 530 00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:55.000 of them we know, only made thirty eight hundred bucks 531 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:56.319 in like three years. 532 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:01.440 Now, well that's that's over three years at thirty yeah, 533 00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:03.200 oh my god. 534 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:05.880 And the only reason why he won that lawsuit that 535 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:09.279 got thrown out, okay, was because the lawyer who filed 536 00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:11.799 it did it all incorrectly and he should have went 537 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.039 to the labor board and counted up for hours and 538 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:15.279 all kinds of weird stuff like that. 539 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:16.599 But so it was. 540 00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.599 Thrown out, not not on the merits, but because it 541 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:20.519 was filed incorrectly. 542 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:25.680 Wow, so you have you have basically a paperwork snafoo 543 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:29.440 here with with somebody who didn't fill out the paperwork properly, 544 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.680 which is why the now was it dismissed without prejudice? 545 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:33.160 I mean, does it? 546 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.279 It's gone from that court. He needs to go to 547 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.200 like the labor board, you know, to get paid on that. 548 00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:43.839 But another interesting thing is that ties all this in 549 00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:49.279 again with Epstein. Epstein had a buddy named Jean Luke Brunel, 550 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.839 who was again a modeling scout. And this guy had 551 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.000 a notorious reputation of roofis and doing all kinds of 552 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.680 stuff like that. You could just google his name. There's 553 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:01.160 all kinds of the minutes did a show about this 554 00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:06.000 guy years ago? Oh wow, Okay, he's Epstein's buddy. As 555 00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.559 a matter of fact, when Epstein was in that little 556 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.319 Rinki Ding jail. See, people need to realize that when 557 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.240 Epstein pled guilty, okay, and took his non prosecution deal, 558 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:19.200 he went to a jail in Florida where he had 559 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.799 donated eighty thousand dollars to a sheriff's department. In that 560 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:25.359 same jail, they housed him in a wing of that 561 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:28.079 jail all by himself. It was under construction. He was 562 00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:32.839 the only inmate in that section of the jail. He 563 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:34.519 didn't have to he only had to sleep there. He 564 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:36.880 could leave in the morning, get on his seven forty 565 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.480 his private seven forty seven, go to Virgin Islands, go 566 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.640 to New York City, go to New Mexico wherever he 567 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:42.720 wanted to go, and come back. 568 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:43.480 There at night and go to sleep. 569 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:45.319 The only day he had to stay there all day 570 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:49.200 long was Sunday, who came to visit him more than 571 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:53.839 fifty two times. He was only after thirteen months and 572 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:58.640 more visits than per possible visiting days. Okay, in that 573 00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:02.640 jail was just see Luke Brunell, the modeling scout with 574 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.039 this priverty reputation. 575 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.079 Oh so let's get this straight. That's you know, if 576 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:10.880 you average it out, that's about once a week, right, right, 577 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:13.519 for you know, thirteen months, you might as well call 578 00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:15.599 it a year. And if you got fifty two weeks 579 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.480 and a year, bang, it's once a week. This guy's 580 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.119 checking in with him right while he's at and this 581 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:22.960 is just while he's at the jail. That doesn't mean 582 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.920 that he wasn't checking in with him otherwise we're talking about. 583 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.759 That's the minimum that we can figure out because he's 584 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:35.359 there at his you know, cheaply built but definitely segregated housing, 585 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.200 right which he only has to sleep at. This is 586 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:39.319 a pretty good deal here. 587 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.359 Yeah, more visits from this guy than that were available 588 00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:47.400 visiting days. So the guy and one day visited twice. Okay. Brunell, 589 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.720 his reputation in this little group with Epstein and all 590 00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.079 this stuff was going on was that he had a 591 00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.680 way to get visus. 592 00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.000 He was the guy with the visus. 593 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:02.440 They can go to the countries like the Czechoslovakia and 594 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.440 you know, these Eastern European countries in Thailand and go 595 00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.000 there and pick up these little girls and get them 596 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.160 visas to come to the United States. Okay, that was 597 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:14.279 his little deal in its ring, according to Virginia Roberts. 598 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:16.759 And now where do we see that same pattern taking 599 00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:21.480 place over a Trump modeling agency with these visas. 600 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.279 Yeah, because when you're talking about you know, little girls, 601 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.640 I mean literally you're meaning to say, you know twelve 602 00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:28.200 year old. 603 00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.640 Girls, right, Yeah, when you look at the picture. There's 604 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:36.160 a widely circulated picture out there of Virginia Roberts with 605 00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.440 Prince Andrew and she's seventeen years old. In that picture, 606 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:42.880 she got a big smile on her face, you know, 607 00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:44.799 and people looking and said, oh, look at her, she's 608 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:45.559 enjoying herself. 609 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:46.400 Oh look at I said. 610 00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.559 But if you go back and look up some of 611 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.440 the original filings in this case, you'll see pictures of 612 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.720 Virginia Roberts when she's a little kid. She's a little 613 00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:59.720 kid on the Staten Island ferry in little kid clothes. 614 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.160 You said thirteen fourteen years old on that picture. And 615 00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:07.359 then you see messages from her mother saying, Virginia, you 616 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:08.960 got to figure out a way to get away from 617 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:09.319 that man. 618 00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:10.519 You got to figure out a way to. 619 00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.119 Get away, you know. And you know, I thought that 620 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:18.519 stuff is that was you know to me, it's heartbreaking. 621 00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.799 I got my kids the same age. There was another 622 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:26.319 thing too, in the in the the probable cause affon 623 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.440 David for the search warrant, where they discussed the two 624 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:32.920 cops discussed, you know, identifying all these little kids that 625 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.400 were being molested by Epstein and going to their homes 626 00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:39.160 knocking on the door dinner time. You know, Hey, you know, 627 00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:40.920 mom and dad, we got to talk to you about 628 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.759 your kids. Your kid's been you know, getting paid two 629 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.359 hundred bucks to go. Besides, this guy, a naked guy, 630 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.359 and he's you know, molested them. Can you imagine, you know, 631 00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.359 the police knock on your door at dinner time, you know, 632 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:54.839 and your little daughter. 633 00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.279 The kid denies it, Well, mom, it never happened, never 634 00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:57.480 have it. 635 00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:58.279 Line now, I don't know anything. 636 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.119 After there, then a couple of days later, the police 637 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:05.119 and then the parents contact the police. Our daughter admitted everything. 638 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:06.799 She told us, everything's going you know. 639 00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.160 No, I got I got a seven you know right now, 640 00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.720 I got I got a daughter who's going to be seventeen, 641 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.559 right and I can I can wrap my mind around 642 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.319 that concept of you know, at first, she would probably 643 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:26.400 deny that anything happened, you know, and meanwhile, I'm going 644 00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:28.119 to pursue that a little bit and try and do 645 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.160 it gently. You know, come on, it's okay, you can 646 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.880 explain this to me, you know, kind of deal. And 647 00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.119 then probably a couple of days later, Yeah, the parents 648 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:36.920 have to call the cops back and say, you know what, 649 00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.559 after giving a little bit of time, and you know, 650 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:41.240 she went in a room for a while, slept for 651 00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.400 two days whatever, you know, she came back and told me, 652 00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.559 you know, hey, guess what, there's there's more to this. 653 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.000 And then you know, how many families, you know, are 654 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.400 we talking about that they that they seem to uh 655 00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:56.759 you know, go knocking on doors for I mean, what 656 00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:58.480 what kind of number are we talking about here? 657 00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:01.440 I believe it was about thirty family there in Palm Beach, Florida. 658 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.559 They yeah, they identified about thirty victims there. But you 659 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.880 gotta remember too, it was way more than that, because 660 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.559 the butler testified that there was a three little girls 661 00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:13.400 a day, you know, so there was a There was 662 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.840 stuff too, man like when they executed the search, weren't 663 00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:22.440 he had the school transcripts of these girls from their 664 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.920 their school records and their stuff at school. So he 665 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:28.159 had to have somebody in the school helping him out 666 00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.559 giving them information, giving them these documents, that's for sure, 667 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:33.320 And so he could pick out the ones who were 668 00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.400 from troubled families and had proms and you know, were 669 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.960 failing at school and showing up late, you know, like 670 00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.800 he was targeting people. And the other thing too, is 671 00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:43.079 like you said, you have a daughter seventeen years old. 672 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.199 You know, when we first started walking and working on this, 673 00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.039 my daughter was fourteen, which is right around the age 674 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:47.840 of all these kids. 675 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:50.119 And I asked her, I said. 676 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.360 Hey, if any of this was going on at you're 677 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.039 a school where one girl was coming there and trying 678 00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:56.960 to recruit other girls for two hundred bucks to go 679 00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.920 massage and naked. Guy, what did this spread like wildfire 680 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.239 and everyone in the school? No, like in a week 681 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.400 And she says, yeah, absolutely, everybody would know, you know, 682 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.800 so it was See that's that's. 683 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:11.639 The thing that always kills me about these guys who 684 00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.679 operate on such a massive scale as president as predators. 685 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:18.639 Uh and it you know, yes, of course there there 686 00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.079 there is a certain level of evil. There's a certain 687 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.679 level of sickness that has to be you know, for 688 00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:26.360 the predator to exist. But then uh, you know, some 689 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:29.599 of the helpers they might have been victims whatever, all right, 690 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:33.039 but it goes beyond that because there's a lot of 691 00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:36.360 people that are you know, that are turning, that are 692 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.800 turning a blind eye to it, you know what I mean. 693 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:41.719 It has to be because after a while, like you said, 694 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.639 you know, if you're looking at middle school or early 695 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.800 high school, right, it would not take long at all. 696 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:49.960 And I mean I saw this kind of thing emerge, 697 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:52.840 you know one time when I was a kid where 698 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.960 there was a you know, it never took long for 699 00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.480 the local you know, pedophile who was giving you, you know, 700 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:03.000 quarters to go play pac Man or whatever to get 701 00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.039 caught up because one kid would tell another kid and 702 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.119 so on and so forth. And yeah, it might stay 703 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.480 contained briefly. But how long are we talking about this 704 00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:14.639 going on with this character, this Epstein. 705 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.320 Well that's a good question. At least a year, because 706 00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.599 the investigation went on for a long long time. But 707 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:23.360 as far as you can to talk about like everyone 708 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:27.519 knowing and everyone being aware, you got to remember, Virginia 709 00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:31.800 Roberts was one of the main plaintiffs in this litigation, right, 710 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.880 been one of the main people. The way that Epstein 711 00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.599 got a hold of her was she was working over 712 00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:42.800 at mar A Lago at the Trump property in the 713 00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.800 girl's locker room, folding towels, and her father worked there too. 714 00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.559 It was the maintenance man over there at mar A Lago. 715 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:56.760 And she was recruited by Gashlaine Maxwell was Robert Maxwell's 716 00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:00.719 daughter now Gishlaine Maxwell too, who was known as this 717 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:04.079 person who was like a party plan, party plane going. 718 00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.280 She was like a kind of a like a social light, 719 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:09.760 you know, my fond Robert Maxwell is a big con man, 720 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:11.440 ran like News of the World and in the UK 721 00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.840 and stuff like that, stole their their money, you ever 722 00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.000 heard of him, right, He had all kind of intelligence 723 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:18.239 background and stuff too as well. 724 00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:22.199 Yeah, he's a weird character who knows why he was 725 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:23.840 doing some of the things he was doing. But he 726 00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.000 was also a grifter who you know, sucked the money 727 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.920 out of things, you know, embezzlement and so on and 728 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.760 so forth. I mean, there's all kinds of different stories 729 00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.199 about him. An interesting character in and of himself. And 730 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:37.280 his daughter is. 731 00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.840 Over there right okay, and also too, you know, his 732 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.320 oldest son, the mysterious death of his oldest son, had 733 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.679 like eight nine and nine kids or something total. 734 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:47.719 You know, it's a whole rabbit hole by itself. 735 00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:52.760 Kishlaine Maxwell was the one who first targeted Virginia Roberts 736 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:56.159 at a Trump property and got her over to Epstein. Okay, 737 00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:01.199 Virginia Roberts father worked for Trump as well. Now Here 738 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.559 we have statements of Virginia Roberts mother saying you've got 739 00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.719 to get away from these people. Okay. So and then 740 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.360 we have Kishlaine Maxwell showing up at Bill Clinton's in 741 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:12.559 Chelsea Clinton's wedding after Epstein was convicted. 742 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:15.679 So we've got a whole pattern. 743 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.360 Yet there's a whole pattern here of crap going on 744 00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:19.639 with people looking the other way. 745 00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:25.400 Well, you know, the sociopathic aspects of you know, the 746 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:30.719 Clinton's and and jeez, you know many other political figures 747 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.159 is something that you know, I'm willing to accept as 748 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:38.440 a given most of the time. But it's very bizarre 749 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:43.000 to watch these nexuses continue to emerge because, like you said, 750 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.199 I mean, we're not talking about they just happen to 751 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.079 do business together. We're not talking about they just happened 752 00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:54.400 to There's all sorts of intimate contact here between family members. 753 00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:56.840 You know, your your children are in contact with other 754 00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:01.599 people's children. I mean, this is like like a whole 755 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:03.199 other world. 756 00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.760 It sure is, man, you know, and it's very. 757 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.880 Incestuous, I think is the phrase. You know, we're both 758 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:10.639 trying to look for here. 759 00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:13.840 Yeah, that's perfect incestuous, right. 760 00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.679 Yeah, with all these bunches, and they will live next 761 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:18.000 door to each other. Epstein was right next door to 762 00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.079 Marrow Lago by the way, too. I just found it 763 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.679 just very very recently, and this document dump that was 764 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.960 sent over to me by Pierce Redmond from Porkin's Policy 765 00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:31.840 was that there exists a photograph of Donald Trump, Jeffrey 766 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:35.360 Epstein and Prince Andrew in the same photo. 767 00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:38.800 It's totally scrub from the internet. You can't, it's not. 768 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.079 I've seen every single photo of Jeffrey Epstein that he's 769 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.000 ever been in. I've seen everything, but the one with 770 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.440 him walking down the street with Woody Allen and that 771 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:48.559 little girl. 772 00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:53.519 He was going on, Man, you're talking about what what 773 00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.679 doy Allen with the the Soon deal? And uh. 774 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.320 Yeah, Woody Allen was hanging out with Epstein, you know, 775 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:02.800 and is near oh. 776 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:03.079 By the Way too. 777 00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:04.719 I found out something else too recently too, that in 778 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:09.599 that New York place by the way, Epstein's only client 779 00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:14.119 that we know of is Leslie Wexler, who owns a 780 00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:18.039 Victoria's Secrets, owns The Limited and only these clothing stores 781 00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.719 for teenagers and stuff like that. The Limited has another 782 00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.400 clothing line called The Limited too, where they sell clothes 783 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:28.440 to preteen girls under twelve years old. And it's all 784 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:30.519 like grooming too to get these girls into this kind 785 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:34.360 of prerogative clothing. It's all like this huge giant pattern. 786 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:40.880 But in that home in Manhattan where Jeffrey Epstein lives today, 787 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:42.559 they're the one with the pictures that came out with 788 00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:44.519 wood You all out in front of the house. I 789 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.719 just found out something in an architecture magazine that in 790 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:52.079 that home there's a room, a lead lined bathroom underneath 791 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.679 a staircase that has like like a safe room with 792 00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:57.840 and it has in there. There's a telephone there in 793 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.159 a hidden compartment, there's a there's video surveys from that 794 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:02.679 bathroom of the rest of the house. 795 00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.039 Okay, he's got a panic room. 796 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:08.760 Yeah, well it even seems to be a little bit 797 00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:11.400 beyond the padic room because it's the leadlined you know, 798 00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:13.840 like like maybe he doesn't want to be like it 799 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:18.360 can prevent surveillance on him in that room, so. 800 00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:20.559 They couldn't even go in there with like, wow, that's 801 00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:21.519 that's crazy. 802 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:23.639 You want to hear another bizarre thing too when you 803 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.960 walk into that home. Uh, when you first walk in, 804 00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:32.000 there's a whole wall of artificial eyeballs from World War One. 805 00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:36.199 Uh that from for prosthetic eyeballs in little glass cases 806 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.400 pointing back at you. You know, and if you know 807 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:42.760 anything about this kind of black magic stuff, that's so 808 00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:44.880 that people can't see what you're doing, it's like the 809 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.440 evil eye pointing back like uh, Jimmy Saville had that 810 00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.199 ring with an eyeball on it, you know, like they 811 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.639 think it's like protection against people seeing what they're doing. 812 00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:56.519 And in some cases I think it works. 813 00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.079 But yeah, but this. 814 00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.360 Comes from the you know, the the the voodoo thing 815 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.079 that was sort of adopted by the Italians, where you 816 00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.000 you know, you do the maloic kind of deal and uh, 817 00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:10.920 you know, you put the evil eye on somebody, that 818 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:14.039 kind of thing, and it's an odd sort of deal, 819 00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:18.880 but there's plenty of people that have that superstition, and uh, 820 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.719 you know, it goes a little beyond an odd decorating choice. 821 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:25.559 You know, that's creepy, man. 822 00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:27.719 Oh no, Yeah, when you read about the way that 823 00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.440 the place in Manhattan was decorated, there's all kinds of 824 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.840 creepy occult stuff in there too. And then the descriptions 825 00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:37.360 of the place that in Palm Beach, like the gargoyles 826 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.039 out in front, you know, of the house. 827 00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:40.800 With all the typical stuff, you know. 828 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:43.599 And by the way too, you know, he was friends 829 00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.480 with the Rothschild evonnd Rosschild. 830 00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:48.280 Do you know that. 831 00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:50.840 No, I was not aware of that at all. 832 00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.679 Dude, he's a member of the council formulation. No, I 833 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:55.559 know that, but I didn't know he was, you know, 834 00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:59.599 Epstein is remember the Council Farm relations and friends and 835 00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.199 party with Evelyn Russa. In fact, when Dershowitz was talking 836 00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.360 about how he met, he says, oh, well, maybe I 837 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:09.000 met him once or twice at Evelyn's parties. 838 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:10.400 You know. 839 00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:13.239 That's the only time they met was at the Rothschilds. 840 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:18.039 You know, wow, yeah, that's pretty crazy. I didn't realize that. 841 00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:21.239 You know, there is so much on this guy out there, 842 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.320 you know that it's almost impossible to wrap your mind 843 00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.960 completely around it. All right, Yeah, it really is. 844 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.559 It makes me wonder how they were able to get 845 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:33.719 a case at all against him, you know. 846 00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.119 But once they did, they did a great investigation. 847 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.760 Was comps down in Pombiche, Florida, and where they set 848 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:40.679 up a video camera across the street. They went through 849 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.239 his garbage and they rounded up the names of all 850 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:47.519 these kids. They visited their parents homes. But after that 851 00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.360 he went out and hired this legal dream team with 852 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:54.119 the Jerry Leftcourt, who was Abby Hawfin's lawyer, you know, 853 00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.400 great fourth mental lawyer from New York City, and Roy 854 00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:01.920 Black and Dershwitz and Ken star Are That's the legal 855 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.159 team he hired man these guys, and it was Roy 856 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.639 Black's PI that went out and contacted all these little 857 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:09.280 girls and stuff. He was giving them rental cars and 858 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:10.920 you don't give them cars the drive around stuff like that, 859 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:11.360 trying to. 860 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:14.400 It was questioning them. 861 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.440 The cops would go back to these girls and say, well, 862 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.599 has anybody talked about this? And they said, yeah, this 863 00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:23.920 private investiay came me closer. What to say, open, It's 864 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.519 already open. And then Epstein get this man, he went, 865 00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:28.719 I think we talked about this lesson. 866 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:29.360 I was like show. 867 00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:35.039 He went and started investigating the federal prosecutor for the 868 00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.639 Southern District of Florida, Okay, which is. 869 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:39.119 Just like trying Rudy Giuliani. 870 00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:41.199 We went up against Rudy Giuliani in New York City, 871 00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:42.960 so this would just be like trying to you know. 872 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.039 And it was a big mafia case in New York 873 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:49.239 City on the defense against Rudy Giuliani prosecuting us. And 874 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.920 these guys never dreamed of saying, well, let's investigate Julianni 875 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:54.559 to what he has to hide. They never dreamed to 876 00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:58.960 say this. Epstein says, let's investigate the prosecutor. Let's investigate 877 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:00.840 his family. Let's see what a dirt we can dig 878 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:02.840 up on him. They went after him, They went to 879 00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:06.760 his bosses, They went to Jeb Bush down in state 880 00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.199 of Florida. They went to Bill Clinton's I guess it 881 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:13.840 was Clinton's White House to put pressure on the federal 882 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.320 prosecutor to drop the charges can get him. And yeah, 883 00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:21.159 he wrote a three page letter about what he endured 884 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.159 by this Epstein team against well. 885 00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:28.760 Yeah, and let's not gloss over ken Starr being involved 886 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:33.320 in it, because g doesn't that name sound familiar? You know, 887 00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:37.639 this is the guy who was what after Clinton for 888 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.880 the you know, the Lewinsky deal, right, I mean it 889 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.400 wasn't he the special prosecutor they brought in. I mean, 890 00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.000 we're talking about the same guy, aren't we. 891 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:47.719 Yeah, it's the same guy. But what I hear is 892 00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.960 he's been a fixer all along, Okay, way back. He 893 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.800 was involved way back in me and Arkansas. Ken Starr 894 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:57.199 all along throughout all this and he was also involved 895 00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:01.159 to in them that guy been s Foster case too. 896 00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:04.079 Ken Starr has been like a sweep up kind of guy, 897 00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.800 clean up kind of guy all along and all this stuff. 898 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:08.960 Yeah, I was gonna just say you know, maybe you 899 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:10.840 should explain to the listener what you mean by a 900 00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:14.239 fixer exactly, because you know, there's a lot of definitions 901 00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.800 that can be applied to that, you know, but when 902 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.480 it comes to being in a legal position of being 903 00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.079 a fixer, this is the guy who who makes your 904 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.599 problems go away basically. 905 00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:25.920 Right right. 906 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.840 And while it may look like he was dogging Clinton, 907 00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:31.679 you know, ruthlessly, you know, he was really just putting 908 00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:32.159 on a show. 909 00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:34.880 And you know over Lewinsky crap when it was a 910 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:36.079 time was. 911 00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.400 Much bigger stuff you can go after the Clinton's with 912 00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:41.760 rather than Lewinsky and Paula Jalonson this kind of stuff. 913 00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:44.159 You know. Well, I always found that amazing too, is 914 00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:46.159 that you know, they never really went after the Clintons 915 00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.079 for the stuff that was big. It was always about 916 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.000 you know, well, what about the Whitewater investment thing. I 917 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.320 don't think that was that big a deal, to be 918 00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:56.320 honest with you, when you look at it, that was 919 00:46:56.440 --> 00:47:00.079 nothing compared to you know, what was going on in 920 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.880 in Mina and uh and and what you know what 921 00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.119 else he was trying to hide. I mean, always there's 922 00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:08.599 dirt on these guys, uh that they get to rise 923 00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:12.079 to a position of power. But what I find interesting 924 00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:17.960 years so far is that Trump is involved directly, okay, 925 00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:20.760 all over the place, and I don't see him being 926 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.079 really called out on it. 927 00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.559 Nope. As a matter of fact, he seems to getting 928 00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.119 a total pass on this, which is amazing because there's 929 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.400 a direct quote where he says, you know, Epstein's a 930 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.280 great Guy's as friends for fifteen years. He loves beautiful women, 931 00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:38.440 some on the younger side. You know, he really enjoys 932 00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:42.760 the social life. There's a direct quote, you know, alluding 933 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.239 and every I mean, by the way, at that point, 934 00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:47.880 everyone knew this guy was a pedophile because when you 935 00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:51.920 let's read the Vicky Ward articles for New York magazine, 936 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:55.920 she talks about that they would they would be parties 937 00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.400 at his mansion in New York where they would be 938 00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.840 these really young girls, like fifteen year old girls dressed 939 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:06.159 like from from the Eastern Europe, European blonde girls, you know, 940 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.719 brought in from Russia, you know, like dress like processes 941 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:13.320 like street walkers at these parties, like so out of place, 942 00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:16.360 and so you know, and it was like people were 943 00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.000 shocked by what was going on with this character. So 944 00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:22.199 it wasn't like this was a secret what was going 945 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.119 on with this guy. So yeah, and you're right, Trump 946 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.280 seems to land at his doorstep in so many ways. 947 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:31.280 When you look at the Trump Modeling agency and all 948 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:33.400 that stuff he's doing with that, When you look at 949 00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:38.519 the one of these victims worked for Trump and and 950 00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:42.039 her father worked for Trump. You know, you know, Trump 951 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:43.679 had a lot of control of when you some of 952 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:47.360 the stuff went on on Trump property. Because Prince Andrew 953 00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.719 was molested in this girl and he's right there at 954 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:53.119 the tennis match. And I was reading an article today 955 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:56.760 Prince Andrew, Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump all at this tennis 956 00:48:56.760 --> 00:49:01.639 match there on mar A Lago, Epstein and Prince Andrew 957 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:08.599 staying at mar A Lago. So the pattern there is 958 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:12.559 way too much to ignore. Then there's stuff about Marlon 959 00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.159 Maples when when she's talking about you know, this is 960 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:16.199 when he was still married. 961 00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:17.639 She's married to Trump. 962 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:20.920 And I was just gonna say, we got to remember 963 00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:26.119 that Marlon Maples was the you know, the wife after Ivana, right, 964 00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.679 And there's a whole thing about that too, where again 965 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.159 they're giving him a they give him the past completely 966 00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:35.000 on all of this stuff, when you know they want 967 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.199 to keep sticking to his statements in his Twitter feed, 968 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.199 Like I said, But but they're not talking about his 969 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:42.719 character when it comes to, you know, how he was 970 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:46.280 handling things. He can call out Bill Clinton as a 971 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:49.920 serial predator pretty much, but but nobody wants to talk 972 00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.519 about how this guy conducted himself for any of the stuff, 973 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.360 because if they really start to dig, I think they 974 00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.239 find them all under the same pile of manure. 975 00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:05.440 You know, well, Marla Maples said when she was still 976 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.360 married to him and he was buying a teen Miss Usa, 977 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:12.039 she made a snide remark, well, that's right up your. 978 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:16.000 Ally, right right in front of the Vanity Fair reporter, 979 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.960 you know. Now by the way too, you know, there's 980 00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.079 a great video of a documentary that came out by 981 00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:25.679 this woman named Liby. I had her on the show 982 00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:30.760 and she did a Trump documentary. It's available only on iTunes, 983 00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.800 but if you google Libby l Ibby and then Trump documentary, 984 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.440 it'll pop up. You can buy it on iTunes for 985 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.920 two bucks. And there's all this kind of great film 986 00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:43.679 footage from way back in the eighties in New York City, 987 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:47.000 which I'm sure you would remember. And it was this 988 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:48.960 one thing about remember back in the eighties when they 989 00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.039 started doing that thing with the condo conversions. You could 990 00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:55.719 convert apartment buildings to co ops and condos. So the 991 00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:58.599 landlords were kicking people out and making people miserable and 992 00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:01.960 not removing Santa Fe and that's the providing water and 993 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:04.000 stuff to get the tenant sounds that he could sell 994 00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:10.280 the apartment, right, And they have clips of Trump saying, well, 995 00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:12.079 we got to get these people out. I think I'm 996 00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:14.039 gonna turn this building into a homeless shelter and let 997 00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.119 homeless people come in here and take showers and stuff 998 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.400 and use these apartments and take showers and stuff like that. Right, 999 00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.719 you know, you know what I mean, Why don't they 1000 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:23.679 play that stuff? 1001 00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:28.039 It's about, Yeah, they won't touch it, and it's probably 1002 00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:30.880 out there without you know, without too much of an 1003 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.559 effort to get hold of it. Right. There's all kinds 1004 00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:36.719 of stuff on this guy, like I cracked up the 1005 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:40.639 other day, just bringing on, you know, the discussion about Okay, look, 1006 00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:44.679 in order to do any kind of work, let's just 1007 00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.320 say on a large scale in the Northeast, you know 1008 00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:52.639 you're going to absolutely bump up against Italian businessmen. Let's 1009 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.800 just say, okay, you know this is what's gonna happen. 1010 00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:57.880 And I don't care what you're doing. If you have 1011 00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:01.840 waste disposal, you have union involved, you have any kind 1012 00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:04.559 of construction. Let's be honest. I mean it may not 1013 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:08.079 be the great, you know, situation where they were in 1014 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:12.320 control of everything back like they were then. Uh, but 1015 00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:18.320 they're still involved everywhere. Okay, you can't have possibly had 1016 00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.000 the type of experiences that Trump had as a developer, 1017 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.400 as a real estate guy, et cetera, et cetera, without 1018 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:29.079 having bumped into these guys. That's true, but he knew 1019 00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:32.400 about it. It's not like, uh, you know, it's not 1020 00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:34.960 like he just was doing a little bit of business 1021 00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.599 with the devil because he knew that was the only 1022 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:41.000 way to get business done. He was perfectly fine with it. 1023 00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:43.960 He was involved with these people. You know, you want 1024 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:45.800 to talk about the weddings. Take a look at all 1025 00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.519 the guest lists on these weddings, right, he got all 1026 00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:54.239 all sorts of interesting relatives of different people showing up. 1027 00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.440 I mean he was intricately involved, or intricately involved. Let's 1028 00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:03.400 just say with with lot of criminals, lots of politicians, anybody, 1029 00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.320 and everybody who's palm could be greased in order to 1030 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:09.360 get something done Trump was involved with and it didn't 1031 00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:13.559 matter for what the moral consequences of it was. And 1032 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:17.880 and that includes this Epsteine character. You know, I mean, 1033 00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:21.719 are we looking at somebody who? I mean? Yeah, goo ahead. 1034 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.920 In that documentary, I'm sorry to in that documentary it's 1035 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:29.199 talking about it talks about how when he built Trump Tower, 1036 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:32.960 he built it using cement and concrete. Now, back at 1037 00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:35.000 that time, there was only one concrete company in New 1038 00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:37.480 York City, Scare Mix, owned by Paul Castellano. 1039 00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:39.760 Okay, And even though it. 1040 00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:42.400 Costs more money to build the building using concrete and 1041 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:46.760 cement instead of steel, you know, he did it that way. Okay, whatever, 1042 00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.400 that's his reason. But he's all he was in partnerships 1043 00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:54.400 with Tony. Uh, that's only a Tony Cilano. That Tony Cilanti. 1044 00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:56.400 He had a business with. 1045 00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:59.519 Him, right, He was in a partnership with him in 1046 00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.400 company he was tied to the You're right, there was 1047 00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:05.280 only one cement company at the time Costellano was running that. 1048 00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:08.000 If people don't know Costellano was, he was the boss 1049 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.519 of the Gambino family that winds up catching a bullet 1050 00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:13.400 outside of sparks and then we got the rise of 1051 00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.360 a guy like Gotti, and I guarantee you if you 1052 00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:18.760 look hard enough, you'll probably find him doing some business 1053 00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:20.760 with him as well. We run out of time in 1054 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:22.480 the first hour, but I'm telling you we're going to 1055 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.840 continue this discussion about Jeffrey Epstein in the second hour 1056 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:29.679 with my very special guest, Ed Opperman. And yes, all 1057 00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:31.840 praise to Fierce Redmond, who I wish could have joined 1058 00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:34.760 us tonight but wasn't able to. We will do a 1059 00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:38.719 show with our friend from Porkins Policy Review very soon. 1060 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:41.679 But stay tuned to American Freedom Radio. Guys, The Ocelli 1061 00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.519 Effect has another hour coming up, and we're gonna go deeper, 1062 00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:54.800 stick around, designed. 1063 00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:55.159 To make you think. 1064 00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:57.679 And the thing is money credit. 1065 00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:01.880 Soon you won't be able to buy with your monopoly money. 1066 00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:07.880 Can you tell me? What? 1067 00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:15.239 What? What? What? Kill? We are certainly talking about the 1068 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:20.960 Jeffrey Epstein saga, Okay, And if you don't know who 1069 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.639 he is, you know you're gonna have to listen to 1070 00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.440 the first hour. And really it's hard as guy is anyway. 1071 00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.039 Like I said, the mysterious kind of stuff is how 1072 00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.320 he's described in the press, and what do we have 1073 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:37.360 here buffs to Trump, to Clinton, et cetera, etra, and 1074 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.199 well a whole bunch of other people too. And I say, again, 1075 00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:42.880 I don't know how a lot of this stuff goes 1076 00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:49.719 on under the noses of so many people. Okay, you know, 1077 00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:54.480 it isn't about how he had the files from some 1078 00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:58.039 of these kids locally from their schools, which meant that 1079 00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:01.440 somebody had to be assisting it. I mean, did anybody 1080 00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:04.239 ever turn up who that might have been at No? 1081 00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:08.000 And I just interviewed Kaschitah Saranoff, who just wrote the 1082 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:12.280 new book traffic King about Jeffrey Epstein. And as a 1083 00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:14.719 matter of fact, she was formerly she had been acquaintances 1084 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.719 with Epstein and Kashlaine Maxwell on a social level in New. 1085 00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:22.400 York City, and she runs this, I guess. 1086 00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:28.760 A teen trafficking advocacy group in Washington, d C. And 1087 00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:30.639 I was asking her. I kept ask him, how did 1088 00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:34.960 you know he get those documents? But you know, how 1089 00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:38.119 do you get these school transcripts in his on his 1090 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:41.480 desk during his search warn Obviously the cops thought was 1091 00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:44.199 suspicious enough because they mentioned it, you know, in the 1092 00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:47.039 problem cause EFFI David so very interesting. 1093 00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:48.719 We don't know how he got them. 1094 00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:50.559 But he has been involved in a lot of weird stuff, 1095 00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.239 like I was telling you done in the Virgin Islands, 1096 00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:58.960 all this stuff, a teen orchestra, a science there, a basketball, 1097 00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:01.599 youth basketball. You know. He had another thing too with 1098 00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:06.159 these with this ballet school. Well, he gave them a 1099 00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:09.039 grant so that these ballerinas could go out and get massages. 1100 00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:14.480 Wait a minute, now, you know, look like like I 1101 00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.440 was saying before, and and and I had to kind 1102 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.000 of put it in context with your run of the 1103 00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:23.880 mill sort of predator, right, These guys often uh uh 1104 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:27.000 you know, and notice we're almost always talking about men, 1105 00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:30.000 by the way, Usually female predators are a lot more rare. 1106 00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:31.840 I've never been able to sort that one out, but 1107 00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.039 let's put it aside for now. The thing is that 1108 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:40.679 these guys often insert themselves into situations, involve themselves and things, 1109 00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:45.119 you know, like, gee, you know the old adage about 1110 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:48.159 the cub Scout leaders. You know, those single men who 1111 00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:52.679 aren't married but want to be Cub Scout leaders. Raise eyebrows, right, Uh, 1112 00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.000 the guys who are, you know, coaching a baseball team 1113 00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:58.480 but they don't have a kid on the team, you know, 1114 00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:00.639 or sometimes they do have a get on the team, 1115 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:03.519 and it's even stranger. But the thing is that a 1116 00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:05.880 lot of these guys will insert themselves into these things. 1117 00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:09.599 Now for these like upper crust sort of predators, the 1118 00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:12.400 guys who have the bank to do things, what do 1119 00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:17.639 they do. They establish whole organizations. They organize events, trips, 1120 00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:20.960 all kinds of things so that they can get you 1121 00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:24.800 know what a lazy Susan look at their desserts, you know, 1122 00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:30.559 basically because they're they're they're shopping for victims, right, and 1123 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:30.880 this is. 1124 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.199 The kind of set up a modeling agency and import 1125 00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:36.719 them from foreign countries. One of these and by the 1126 00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.480 way to there's a girl that lives with epicein to 1127 00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.159 this day that is described as being purchased from her 1128 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.760 parents in a in an East European country, and as 1129 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:47.480 another young girl who lives with him and hang in 1130 00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:49.920 his little group that was a former Olympic athlete. 1131 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:53.800 She was a you know, like in the Olympics. But 1132 00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:55.679 you know, when you look. 1133 00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:59.599 At all this, it's still it's all in the same pattern. 1134 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.599 And it's in the same pattern too as well. With Cosby, 1135 00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:07.719 who would be involved with these young actresses that he 1136 00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:09.760 would be their mentor and stuff like that. And you 1137 00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:15.119 hear about these girls who these big William Morris agencies 1138 00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.559 will get them apartments and pay for their acting lessons 1139 00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.280 and groom them up to be actresses. You know, where 1140 00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:23.159 anybody else once again into the acting busy, get into 1141 00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:25.920 the Hollywood. You know, no one's coming along doing all 1142 00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.039 that stuff. Well you're waiting tables and trying to you know, 1143 00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:29.840 audition for gigs and stuff. 1144 00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.199 Yeah, it's real rare. I mean, look, there are occasions, 1145 00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:37.000 and that's not to say that every time there is 1146 00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:39.440 one of these backers who is doing it in a 1147 00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:44.880 professional manner, giving an apartment, giving them a car, giving 1148 00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:48.039 them stuff like that. Sometimes it is legitimate, and that 1149 00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:50.000 is a way to sort of like, look, I'm gonna 1150 00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.280 make sure that all you've got to do is focus 1151 00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:54.920 on your craft, your art, whatever it may be. I mean, 1152 00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:57.360 I knew a guy who was a composer in New 1153 00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:00.119 York City, one of my best friends, and he he 1154 01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:06.159 composed ballets. Uh. The company that brought him to America. Okay, 1155 01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:08.760 and this is a full grown man that brought him 1156 01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:12.760 to America from Spain, all right, gave him an apartment, 1157 01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:16.400 gave him a stipend gave him some things. So that listen, 1158 01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:18.960 all you've got to do, my friend, is be here 1159 01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:22.760 and do your thing, because we believe in you that much. 1160 01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:26.719 That is part of the legitimate way of doing business. Right. 1161 01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:32.480 But these predators, once again, if they've got the bank 1162 01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:36.840 to work with, they can build I mean a huge 1163 01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.239 like menagerie of this. 1164 01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:44.239 Stuff stuff, right, yeah, you know, and with HB one 1165 01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:48.760 versus you know, it's just it's just so freaking bizarre, 1166 01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:49.159 you know. 1167 01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.880 You know we're talking before though, before we did the 1168 01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:56.039 break up. Another thing about Trump is I don't feel 1169 01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:58.239 familiar with the who story about Trump and his helicopter pilot. 1170 01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:01.880 You know, I've heard part of it. But let's let's 1171 01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:04.559 lay it out like one oh one for everybody real quick. 1172 01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:10.679 Trump had this long time helicopter pilot who had a 1173 01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:15.719 history of smuggling marijuana and cocaine and stuff like that 1174 01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:19.239 just happened to be Trump's pilot too. Now, then he 1175 01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:23.239 gets arrested for smuggling drugs. Now, But during that tiny 1176 01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:24.920 little period of time when he gets arrested, he's not 1177 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:28.039 working for Trump, supposing, and then who does he wind 1178 01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.239 up in front of in court when he's you know, 1179 01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:34.320 his case is about to be prosecuted. Donald Trump's sister 1180 01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:36.519 is the judge in the case. 1181 01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:43.079 Now. Now, look, nobody even talks about his sister very much. 1182 01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:46.199 But when they started talking about when they started talking 1183 01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:48.719 about the remember the whole Well, if I was to 1184 01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:51.360 pick a Supreme Court justice, right, I don't even think 1185 01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:53.880 that's part of the news cycle anymore. But if I'm 1186 01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:56.480 going to pick a Supreme Court justice, and then you know, 1187 01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:59.559 the newspeople said, well, maybe he'd pick his sister. Interesting 1188 01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.960 character she is, though, Yeah, Well. 1189 01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:04.719 She worked for the Department of a Justice, you know, 1190 01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:07.519 before she became a federal judge. So all this time 1191 01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:11.079 when when Trump's getting you know, DOJ lawsuits for discrimination 1192 01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:14.000 on his properties and stuff like that, she's working over 1193 01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:16.159 there in that department and made no secret about it 1194 01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:17.440 that Trump was her brother. 1195 01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:19.079 You gotta remember too. 1196 01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:21.079 There's a lot of good stuff in this Libby documentary. 1197 01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.840 I was telling you about this that was suppressed, you know, 1198 01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:25.880 back in the eighties and the nineties, and it'll bring 1199 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:28.920 back a lot of your memories. One of the things 1200 01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:32.960 he talks about, too, is about how a bean was 1201 01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:38.440 high school friends with Trump's father and a beam at 1202 01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:40.119 one time at a party or something put his arm 1203 01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:44.280 around Donald Trump and said, this young man gets whatever 1204 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:47.679 he asked for, okay, you know, And that was the 1205 01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:49.760 whole thing with the woman rank in Central Parking stuff. 1206 01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:51.880 That was all a bean stuff, you know. So so 1207 01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.079 Trump's had a free ride his whole life. 1208 01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:56.039 And also too, if you go back to ad Bean, 1209 01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:57.480 there's a lot of stuff too with him, you know, 1210 01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:01.239 And a lot of stuff were up for the whole 1211 01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:03.679 Son of Sam stuff by the way too, And we're 1212 01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:08.280 really getting into a far field, but you know, you know, 1213 01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:12.159 all that stuff, okay, with the Son of Sam murders 1214 01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:15.639 in New York City in the seventies under eighteen, where 1215 01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:19.559 the Queen's prosecutor dropped the ball on that supposedly or 1216 01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:22.960 covered things up. There's a lot of facts about that. Now, 1217 01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:25.599 there's a lot of stuff that's not very widely reported. 1218 01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:27.679 But this Son of Sam cult, these kids called the 1219 01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:31.360 children that were in Yonkers there in Undermeyer Park doing 1220 01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:33.760 all that stuff. Those guys used to hang out at 1221 01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:37.280 Studio fifty four. This was not some kind of you know, 1222 01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:38.960 rag tag bunch. 1223 01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:41.760 No, this wasn't like a bunch of homeless kids underneath 1224 01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:45.599 bridges sacrificing cats, which was there, by the way also, 1225 01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:49.480 but at the same time, no, these were actually kids 1226 01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:50.519 who had some means. 1227 01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:54.599 Right, under Meyer Park was in a cult. This thing 1228 01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:57.599 is in a cult creation. The stones for Undermeyer Park 1229 01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:01.639 were brought here from England. Okay, this is an occult 1230 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.519 location in the United States, has no doubt about that, 1231 01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:08.760 where this stuff is going on. But these these processed people, 1232 01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.039 these son of Sam process people, used to hang out 1233 01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:14.280 at Studio fifty four. And allegedly one of the people 1234 01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:17.079 was in this little mix of people was Roy Cohen, 1235 01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:20.440 the attorney Roy Cohen, the homosexual attorney by the way, 1236 01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:23.920 then at a Studio fifty four and who is he? 1237 01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:28.000 Lawyer for Donald Trump? Yeah, we attorney. 1238 01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:31.760 Donald Trump, as well as being involved with McCarthy, as 1239 01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:35.599 well as being in all sorts of interesting adventures as 1240 01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:39.239 Roy Cohne character who later on you know, of course, died, 1241 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:46.079 died of aids, right, And that was the amazing epitaph 1242 01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:48.719 to his story. After you know, attacking people for being 1243 01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:53.360 homosexuals publicly, attacking people for being a communist publicly, all 1244 01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:56.719 that kind of stuff. It turns out that this guy, 1245 01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:01.000 this guy hasn't hasn't as yet untold story in my estimation. 1246 01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:04.639 So you know, there you go, we were trying. 1247 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:06.519 To by the way, too, you know, we just found 1248 01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:09.400 we were trying to do a show on Roy Cohen, right, 1249 01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:11.679 and so we started looking up who can we get 1250 01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:13.760 him to book for Roy Cohen? And then we found 1251 01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:18.159 out that John Holmes, the porn star, used to fly 1252 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.639 on Roy Cohen's plane with Roy Cohen, hang out with 1253 01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:22.239 Roy Cohen. Who's get hired to go there and hang 1254 01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:24.599 out with Roy Cohen? And that's how we booked Sally, 1255 01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:32.960 that girl Deborah Schiller, who was John Holmes girlfriend, the 1256 01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:35.840 little teenage girlfriend that we had in that show I 1257 01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.039 did with the John Holmes girlfriend show. 1258 01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:41.760 Yeah, that was well John John Holmes. And you know 1259 01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:44.679 John Holmes turns up in a lot of odd places too, 1260 01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:45.119 doesn't he. 1261 01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.079 The Wonderland Murders, Yeah, you know, and by the way, 1262 01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:53.159 let's let's even more okay, wonder Land Murders down there 1263 01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:58.960 involves what it involves Scott Thwarton, Right. Scott Thorton, who 1264 01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:01.480 was a liberation the boy toy LEBRONCEI got his hands 1265 01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:03.400 on his kid when he was fifteen years old. And 1266 01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:05.719 sort of doing plastic surgery in his face and stuff 1267 01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:10.719 like that. Scott Dawson was Michael Jackson's boyfriend. As a 1268 01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:13.760 matter of fact, there's a picture of Scott Dawson, Michael Jackson, 1269 01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:19.320 and Liberaci in a convertible rolls Royce on Buckingham Palace. Okay, 1270 01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:22.480 characters hang it out together now, then you go back 1271 01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:23.159 full circle. 1272 01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:24.280 Okay, back to Trump. 1273 01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:28.079 Okay, Michael Jackson around at the same time as roy 1274 01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:31.000 Con has hand out Studio fifty four. Michael Jackson is 1275 01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:34.079 on the Broadway play The Wiz. He's hanging out at 1276 01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:36.599 Studio fifty four until the wee hours of the morning, 1277 01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:40.280 and his sister LaToya Jackson said he would come home 1278 01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:46.320 with fresh baby diapers, infant diapers, soiled diapers with urine 1279 01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:50.039 and baby poop in these diapers. Where was he getting 1280 01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:53.079 it from? Coming from Studio fifty four bringing it home. 1281 01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:57.840 It's so totally bizarre all the you know, I don't 1282 01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:01.199 know how much seriously to take from LaToya. You know, 1283 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:06.119 she seems to be Look, I'm not blaming her because 1284 01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:09.840 I think something was severely traumatized her at some point, 1285 01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:14.400 just based on my observations of you know, of of her, 1286 01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:19.519 her body language, okay, her speech patterns. They suggest to 1287 01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:23.599 me that that she has been through some pretty nasty things. 1288 01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:26.039 I'm not sure what. I don't want to make any 1289 01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:30.400 kind of statements about exactly what. But but don't you 1290 01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:32.400 get that same sense from her though? And you're not 1291 01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:37.159 quite sure on occasion exactly how connected the reality she is? Yes? 1292 01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:40.920 Absolutely, and she lived and she might still live here 1293 01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:43.320 in Henderson right by me. In fact, we used to 1294 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:44.760 go to the same dry cleaners together. 1295 01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:45.000 Okay. 1296 01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.440 She always looked beautiful and very expensive outfits, very expensive car. 1297 01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:50.840 But she was married to Jack Gordon. Okay. 1298 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.400 Now, Jack Gordon was a pimp, a full blown pimp. 1299 01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:54.920 You know. 1300 01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:58.679 He ran massage pollers. All of his partners wound up dead. 1301 01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:01.840 There's a story about how he paid off Harry Reid 1302 01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:03.800 and then when Harry Reid didn't do what he was 1303 01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:05.960 supposed to do, Harry Reid's car blew up. 1304 01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:08.760 Okay, and Jack Gordon was spos to be behind that. 1305 01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:10.039 I believe that story. 1306 01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:14.360 Okay, So oh no, Jack Jack Gordon was was clearly 1307 01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:18.239 like a serious thug. I mean, there's no no doubt 1308 01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:19.319 about that in my mind. 1309 01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:22.199 And a pimp and that was his business, was pimp 1310 01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:24.880 so you know, and you know LaToya Jackson was a 1311 01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:27.800 victim of sexual abuse too as well. I'm obviously you know, 1312 01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:30.159 it's clear with this whole bunch, you know, you know, 1313 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:32.079 you know a lot of these Jackson brothers too. You know, 1314 01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:35.000 the two of the Jackson brothers have a baby with 1315 01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:38.960 the same woman. You know, the two brothers both have 1316 01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:40.960 babies with this one woman. You know, it goes back 1317 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:43.319 and forth between them. The whole Jackson man was the 1318 01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:47.600 whole other story. But again, Michael Jackson connects to Studio 1319 01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:51.479 fifty four, but also to back around at the same 1320 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:56.399 time to who odd non Koshogi, Michael Jackson, Elizabeth Taylor, 1321 01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:00.840 who's that other one? Uh, Lizabetail sex husband who just 1322 01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:05.479 died recently, that character all partying on odd non Koshogi's boat. 1323 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:09.479 Now Odd Non Koshogi supposedly sold that boat to Donald Trump, right, 1324 01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:12.359 and it was the biggest yacht in the world, the Princess, 1325 01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:14.640 I think it was called the Pacific Princess something like that. 1326 01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:15.840 He sold it to Donald Trump. 1327 01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:19.119 But yet Koshoki was still allowed to throw parties on 1328 01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:21.119 that boat, so they had some kind of partnership deal 1329 01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:22.880 going on with that boat where they were boat saying 1330 01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:28.119 that they owned the boat. Okay, Adnan Koshogi international arms dealer, 1331 01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:32.119 involved with the Iran contra, involved with everything. Man, you 1332 01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:34.439 got to look into Shogi. This guy's involved in everything 1333 01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:36.800 that's gone on in the past, the twenty thirty years. 1334 01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:38.800 I just had Peter deal Scott on the show talking about. 1335 01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:42.840 Right, and Peter Peter Dell Scott makes some very interesting 1336 01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:46.520 points about Koshogi and knows exactly about how he's tied 1337 01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:49.600 into a whole lot of this stuff. I mean, intelligence 1338 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:53.039 agencies know who this guy is. You know, arms dealers 1339 01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:55.880 know exactly who this guy is. I mean he is, 1340 01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:59.039 He's definitely a player. And meanwhile Trump has some sort 1341 01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:01.880 of comfortable relationship with him where he buys a yacht 1342 01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.920 but still lends it out to the former owner. That's 1343 01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:07.960 pretty bizarre in and of itself. I'm telling you, people 1344 01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:10.840 don't recognize you know, they talk about like I said, 1345 01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:15.239 you know, Hillary, Hillary whatever, she is a criminal? Sure 1346 01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:18.279 has she been involved in all kinds of dirty things? Yes? 1347 01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:22.760 Is you know even today, right, we have the you know, 1348 01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:27.199 the the the distinct idea coming out that hey, look 1349 01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:30.000 you know what, she acted inappropriately here and all this 1350 01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:32.439 other stuff, and she gets away with it. She gets 1351 01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:35.600 away with it, She gets away with it. I get that, 1352 01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:38.640 And people go, welld you know, Trump doesn't know anything 1353 01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:41.079 to anybody, and he's not the you know, the same 1354 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:44.920 kind of politician. All this guy is is the same 1355 01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:48.039 kind of criminal in my estimation as all these other 1356 01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:52.720 people that we complain about. Okay, except one thing. He 1357 01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:56.640 never actually held public office. That's the only difference other 1358 01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:00.680 than that, this guy's hands are dirty. This guy business 1359 01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:05.000 is dirty. Everything about him seems to lead to you know, 1360 01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:09.000 I mean pedophiles, people who are running effectively and I'm 1361 01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:13.720 gonna say bluntly slavery rings of all sorts. Okay, He's 1362 01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:17.239 taken advantage of people that you know, either through his 1363 01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.479 businesses or his friends, are taking advantage of people that 1364 01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:23.359 are vulnerable because they're coming to this country and they've 1365 01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:27.880 got no way to do any sort of protection of 1366 01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:33.760 themselves personally as a con constant and even praying upon children. 1367 01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:36.279 And it's like nobody seems to want to hear this 1368 01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:39.840 among the you know, Oh, Trump's a good guy. He's 1369 01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.560 actually telling it like it is, and he's just not 1370 01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:45.840 hiding his criminality as well. But it doesn't matter because 1371 01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:47.119 nobody's calling him out on it. 1372 01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:52.560 Just his connections to Koshogi alone should should terrify people, 1373 01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:56.079 because when Koshogi was he had all his financial problems 1374 01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:58.239 and he was duck in subpoenas. He was hiding out 1375 01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:01.039 at mar Lago. Okay, you know, and by the way, 1376 01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:03.680 mar a Lago is not just a resort. Trump lives 1377 01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:06.520 on that property when he's down in Palm Beach. He 1378 01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:10.359 lives there, so he's walking around. People see him there, 1379 01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:12.880 walking around. You know, people used to see him walking around, 1380 01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:15.720 by the way, walking around Trump Tower in Manhattan. He's 1381 01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:19.279 a hidden away guy. You know, maybe now more recently 1382 01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:23.079 after they practice and stuff. But Koshogi also is a pimp, 1383 01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:27.920 by the way, who is always denied using prostitutes to 1384 01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:32.399 get his contracts, arms deals and his contract stuff. But 1385 01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:34.199 he was also a drug dealer. He had his own 1386 01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:36.920 airstrip down the Bahamas doing all that drug period. You know, 1387 01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:38.239 I'll say the stuff a lot. 1388 01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:42.880 Of I'm sorry your skype broke up a little bit. 1389 01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:45.720 These guys are always doing like this high level business 1390 01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:49.600 and you know, as a sidebar to it, there's always 1391 01:12:49.720 --> 01:12:53.760 these prostitutes and and plenty of drugs that go around. 1392 01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:55.840 I mean, this is the way big business is done. 1393 01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:58.319 It seems like to me. I wouldn't know, because I've 1394 01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:00.960 never been involved in figures that low arch, but it 1395 01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:03.399 seems to me as though every time I turn around, 1396 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:07.720 when there's millions and possibly even billions of dollars being exchanged, 1397 01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:10.359 you know, it comes along with the territory. There's gonna 1398 01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:12.960 be hookers, there's gonna be drugs, there's going to be this, 1399 01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.560 that and the third thing, and pretty much anything you 1400 01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:17.880 want can be ordered up if you've got the cash 1401 01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:21.439 to to deserve it. You know, in those circles, it 1402 01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:23.800 seems like and you know, one of the things that 1403 01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:25.920 stuck with me during one of your one of your 1404 01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:29.000 shows that I was listening to, is when you just 1405 01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:31.600 basically stopped for a second and said, you know, when 1406 01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:33.560 when people go to Vegas and they want to talk 1407 01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:35.520 to me about, gee, you know, hook me up with 1408 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.720 the hookers and all that stuff, the fact is that 1409 01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:42.079 that you know enough about the reality of that business 1410 01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:45.920 to to not want to be involved, and you don't 1411 01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:48.560 realize what you're asking me when you're asking me is 1412 01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:51.159 what you said on your show. I remember you saying that, 1413 01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:53.720 and I remember thinking to myself, this is a guy 1414 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.840 who actually is aware of what that really means. I mean, 1415 01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:04.439 there is a serious sin of slavery, that is, you know, 1416 01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:10.119 preying upon children and women and young girls and even 1417 01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:14.600 young boys. That is a worldwide syndicate. I mean it 1418 01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:18.680 bunches up in certain places, but the fact is there's 1419 01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:22.000 a worldwide syndicate. And really even in your neighborhood, no 1420 01:14:22.079 --> 01:14:24.479 matter who you are where you're listening to this right now, 1421 01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:29.000 somewhere in your neighborhood, there is probably individuals who are 1422 01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:33.600 completely vulnerable, that are absolute captives of somebody who is 1423 01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:36.039 a pimp. And that's why you can hear a level 1424 01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:39.640 of disgust in your voice when you use the word pimp. Okay, 1425 01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:42.319 I know that, and I wanted to point that out 1426 01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:44.600 to the listeners right here because I think you know, 1427 01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:50.159 from an objective point of view, prostitution if it was 1428 01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:54.000 you know, what, if somebody decided to sell their body 1429 01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:56.560 or sell their services. I mean people do that all 1430 01:14:56.640 --> 01:15:01.159 the time. People that are essentially captive, that are slaves 1431 01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:03.520 to somebody else. This is there are so many different 1432 01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:07.880 levels and so many different layers of filth involved in 1433 01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:11.039 that sphere. I think I think people don't realize what 1434 01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:15.319 they're dipping themselves into when they encourage it. Uh uh, 1435 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.079 you know, traffic in it or participate in it in 1436 01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:23.000 any way, shape or form. I know it's off topic here, ed, 1437 01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:26.880 but you know, am I am I inaccurate in your 1438 01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:27.720 restumation here? 1439 01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:30.479 No, you're right, or even trivialize it, you know, like 1440 01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:33.319 it's like the happy hooker, you know, because even when 1441 01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:35.319 you look into these stories like Linda Lovelace and stuff 1442 01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:37.840 like that, in her whole you know, someone who really 1443 01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:40.000 promoted this whole thing and took it to another level, 1444 01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:43.279 you know, when you let you hear the real story 1445 01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:46.359 behind that. The poor woman was so abused. You know, 1446 01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:51.600 it's to such a level and and it, Yeah, the 1447 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:55.199 whole prostitution thing is really horrible, from from Craigslist all 1448 01:15:55.239 --> 01:15:57.600 the way onto Dennis Hoff you know, who's kind of 1449 01:15:57.640 --> 01:15:59.760 a friend of mine, and I've had them on the show, 1450 01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:03.239 we've talked off the air, and but even that level 1451 01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:05.439 of legal prostitution was supposed to be so fine, and 1452 01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:06.640 well it's really not. 1453 01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:09.920 You know, Uh, you're right if someone is just a. 1454 01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:15.239 Woman who needs to pay some bills, you know, and 1455 01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:19.479 she's not being uh you know, like pimped out, you 1456 01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:22.359 know what I mean, like in prisons and drugged and beaten. 1457 01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:23.039 You know. 1458 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:24.399 Okay, if you want to do that, I can find 1459 01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:25.359 to any I know, people. 1460 01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:27.880 Are liberals, you know whatever, in free spirits all that fine, 1461 01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:30.279 this stuff is great. Uh but but you're right, man, 1462 01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:32.600 it's it's just when you with the real industry of 1463 01:16:32.720 --> 01:16:34.560 prostitution and even pornography too. 1464 01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:37.800 Uh you know, it's it's it's an ugly it's an 1465 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:38.439 ugly business. 1466 01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:42.680 And and and but Koshogi though, was a pimp as 1467 01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:45.640 well to get these arms deals. One of his prostitutes 1468 01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:51.680 was Paul McCartney's wife, Heather Mills. And also too. Google 1469 01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:55.760 a non Koshogi Paris Hilton, and you will see a 1470 01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:59.960 series of photos. Okay, guys where on on Koshogi was 1471 01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:02.640 throwing this party. And I even interviewed this guy too, 1472 01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:05.359 who went down to Kashowgi's a sex palace, this sex 1473 01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:07.239 dungeon down there in Spain. 1474 01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:07.640 Or wherever it was. 1475 01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:12.720 And there's a series of photos where Kashogi's throwing this 1476 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:16.000 party and all is the young starlets Paris Hilton and 1477 01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:19.159 Chloe Savoni, that girl you know, uh starts showing up 1478 01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:19.640 to this party. 1479 01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:20.960 And they show up to the party and they're all 1480 01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:22.640 bright eyed and happy and stuff like that. 1481 01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:26.760 Ten fifteen minutes later down the series of these pictures, 1482 01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:28.039 they are zonked out. 1483 01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:31.119 Man, they are zomked out on some kind of serious dope. 1484 01:17:31.680 --> 01:17:35.319 They're nodding out and they're passing out, you know, at 1485 01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:37.800 this freaking party. So there's something going on at these parties, 1486 01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:39.439 and you get it's right on the internet. You can 1487 01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:40.079 find on Google. 1488 01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:43.279 No. And I made that point, you know, when we 1489 01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:46.560 first started talking about the cosm thing, where you know, 1490 01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:49.479 you go to some of these higher level parties where 1491 01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:51.960 you got rich people that are there that are actually 1492 01:17:52.039 --> 01:17:54.359 the financial backers. And I mean I only got to 1493 01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:57.560 witness this in the entertainment industry some you know, because 1494 01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:00.279 I never made it to the higher echelon, let's say, 1495 01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:02.680 But I mean just being able to kind of hang 1496 01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:06.800 around some of those people. You see this happening constantly, 1497 01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:10.199 and anybody who's there, you know, who goes there of 1498 01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:12.279 their own free will. I'm not talking about the hired 1499 01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:14.640 help again here, but I'm talking about those who go 1500 01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.119 there of their own free will are kind of aware 1501 01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:19.800 that this is exactly the way things are done. You know, 1502 01:18:19.960 --> 01:18:22.920 women get drugged, men get drugged. Even in some of 1503 01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:26.239 these cases, that's an underreported thing. By the way, lots 1504 01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:30.359 of these male figures in the entertainment industry, if you 1505 01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:33.319 get them to break down for you a little bit, 1506 01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:37.319 they'll tell you some pretty earthshaking stories about sexual abuse 1507 01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:40.199 and all kinds of wild things that go on. It's 1508 01:18:40.279 --> 01:18:42.479 you know, it's not just women, but it's primary, you know, 1509 01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:46.439 it's more prominent among you know, there's more female victims, 1510 01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:49.239 let's just say, than there are male victims. But it's 1511 01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:51.760 not as though there are hardly any male victims here. 1512 01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:55.720 There are lots of people that are preyed upon by 1513 01:18:56.399 --> 01:18:59.479 those in the in the higher sort of you know, 1514 01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:03.960 again the upper echelon of finance, right, And this is 1515 01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:06.000 something that goes on and on and on and on, 1516 01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:09.720 and it's just one of those like sickening cycles. And 1517 01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:13.199 I said that, you know, if you've got a situation 1518 01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:17.039 where Cosby's involved in those kind of circles, I'm not 1519 01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:20.520 so shocked now if he's drugging women, you know, and 1520 01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:22.399 the way the stories are coming out and all that. 1521 01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:26.159 That's that's a different story to me. But if you 1522 01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:28.439 go to one of these parties, you know, again of 1523 01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.079 your own free will. You're not brought in there. You're 1524 01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:34.039 not being hustled in there and hustled out and you know, 1525 01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:36.399 and kept in a box like a veal somewhere in 1526 01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:38.760 a hotel room and not allowed to have, you know, 1527 01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:41.760 a cell phone or contact with the outside world like 1528 01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:44.560 some of these women get treated. You know, it's it's 1529 01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:47.199 you know, kind of what you're going in for. And 1530 01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:50.720 men and women both quite often they would say, you know, yeah, 1531 01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:53.359 I got hurt and things went wrong and things happened 1532 01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:56.000 that I didn't want. But the truth is I kind 1533 01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:58.720 of knew that this was going to be the the 1534 01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:03.680 dangerous situation, and I was placing myself in. But when 1535 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:06.560 you're talking about somebody being a pimp, I mean, what 1536 01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:09.479 you mean is that this is somebody who has control 1537 01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:13.880 over other human beings, you know, I mean, uh, it's 1538 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:17.279 it's like a mind control thing. It's a it's it's 1539 01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:22.279 a level of abuse and captivity that their victims are 1540 01:20:22.399 --> 01:20:26.640 kept in that's uh not appreciated I think by the 1541 01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:28.680 general public. In any way, shape or form. 1542 01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:33.079 An Yeah, even if you got some kid, because you know, 1543 01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:34.840 you see it here a lot in Vegas, And if 1544 01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:38.560 you had some kid who was just has no no nothing, 1545 01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:41.680 no other no no hope, no other hope, no other 1546 01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:44.239 way of making a living. My client Shelley trip up 1547 01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:45.920 there in Alaska, you know, when she was doing a 1548 01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:48.640 little happy endings with a little massage business. You know 1549 01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:51.199 she had she had no other hope, She did nothing, 1550 01:20:51.439 --> 01:20:53.119 no other opportunity to get out of that. 1551 01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:54.039 She was dead broken. 1552 01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:55.279 But what are you gonna be on the street next 1553 01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:57.199 you and then you wind up, you know, with some guy, 1554 01:20:57.800 --> 01:21:01.960 and I mean it's all downhill from there, you know. 1555 01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:05.560 But but these are the guys, the kind and these 1556 01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:07.279 are the kind of a Trump's always hung out with, 1557 01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.840 you know, even back in New York, even back in 1558 01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:13.319 the eighties and stuff like that. You know, even with 1559 01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:16.279 when he had trump uh Plaza in New York City. 1560 01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:20.840 Everyone knew that there were certain floors on Trump Plaza 1561 01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:22.359 you can only get into it with a special key 1562 01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:24.319 card in the elevator. Was like a membership thing, you know. 1563 01:21:24.720 --> 01:21:27.760 And all of the strippers from Scores, they all knew 1564 01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:29.279 about it. They were all going up there every night 1565 01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:31.840 after the scores. You know, there was a whole thing 1566 01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:35.239 going on. This isn't a mystery to anybody from New 1567 01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:37.520 York City that I know of. You know, this is 1568 01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:42.000 all very well known stuff. Uh uh and in the 1569 01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:44.079 same thing and the same thing in Atlantic City. 1570 01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:48.319 Yeah. You you know, you know very well that you 1571 01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:51.680 you could buy invite okay, when they first came out 1572 01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:54.560 with those uh with those card keys, right, you know, 1573 01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:57.800 the little credit cards right that you could get handed 1574 01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:01.199 certain ones if you were or you know, high roller 1575 01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:03.560 or you were a high profile guy whatever, and you 1576 01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:07.079 could get access to areas at at the casino even 1577 01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:09.119 where they had the hotels, you know, and there were 1578 01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:12.000 certain floors which were known about. And that was in 1579 01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:13.800 ac also you know. 1580 01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:17.159 Not goes to at the airports too, by the way, Okay. 1581 01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:20.239 Now see I never heard about the airports, but I 1582 01:22:20.279 --> 01:22:23.680 knew about the hotels. I knew about the casinos. I 1583 01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:26.239 knew about you know, there was a couple other things 1584 01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:29.000 that seemed to be connected in one way or another 1585 01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:33.800 because if you went to certain certain strip clubs that 1586 01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:37.520 seemed to be there temporarily or certain massage parlors, you know, 1587 01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:40.920 and you wanted to get a little some private time 1588 01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:45.800 with certain women. A lot of them had ready already, 1589 01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:48.840 you know, the key cards in their little purses, and 1590 01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:51.199 you know, you could make an arrangement. Of course, you 1591 01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:53.319 made an arrangement with another guy who was standing next 1592 01:22:53.319 --> 01:22:55.560 to you at the strip club or whatever. But what 1593 01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:57.680 I'm saying is this kind of business was being done. 1594 01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:02.680 You know, the independence were tolerated there, and there seemed 1595 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:06.359 to be this other, you know, segregated section where if 1596 01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:09.319 you were a big kind of deal you would get 1597 01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:13.960 invited into. And uh and and that's I didn't even 1598 01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:16.880 think to bring that up, actually, but that was just 1599 01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:19.640 a well known fact, you know. 1600 01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:25.079 Also to the whole Atlantic city stuff. Okay, listen, there 1601 01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:26.880 was a whole thing going on to an Atlantic seat. 1602 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:29.760 And when gambling first was getting started in the casinos 1603 01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:31.800 down were first getting started back in the eighties, where 1604 01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:34.680 it was well known in New York and in Brooklyn 1605 01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:36.880 that if you could lure some drug dealers down there 1606 01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:40.039 to to do a deal in these hotels, that the 1607 01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:42.079 security guards at the hotel would help you rip these 1608 01:23:42.079 --> 01:23:44.760 guys off. Okay, you could do a drag grip off 1609 01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:48.920 at these in Atlantic City hotels, and it was all protected, 1610 01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:49.680 all controlled. 1611 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:52.399 You know. Well, look, I'll say i'll say a name 1612 01:23:52.520 --> 01:23:55.840 right now that that I know, you know, not necessarily 1613 01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:58.159 him directly, but people that ended up in his crew. 1614 01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:04.199 A Scarfo's guy right, used to do that routinely. They 1615 01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:06.800 would come across because it was only you got to realize, 1616 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:09.640 New Jersey's a very narrow state. So in less than 1617 01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:13.159 an hour you can go from the Pennsylvania border to 1618 01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:16.840 Atlantic City without a problem, even with traffic. Okay, So 1619 01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:19.479 these guys would come into town and they would bring 1620 01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:21.880 somebody in from New York. They'd split it up, and 1621 01:24:22.199 --> 01:24:25.119 any of these hotels or whatever would sort of you know, now, 1622 01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:26.800 I didn't happen to see the guy. I got a 1623 01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:29.319 signature card here, but it's scribble, you know what I mean. 1624 01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:31.880 You got no idea who was who who got knocked over? 1625 01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:35.560 Even if a body turned up, they would go, you know, unclaimed. 1626 01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:37.840 It was just the way it was because look, a 1627 01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:39.920 drug trafficker is not going to tell his family where 1628 01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:43.479 he went, you know, So these guys would disappear. Sometimes 1629 01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.319 these guys would end up you know, yeah, okay, the 1630 01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:48.239 cops got to come and scrape things up. But we 1631 01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:49.920 used to call it, you know, the bucket of blood 1632 01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:52.439 hotels on the strip there. And we're not talking about 1633 01:24:52.439 --> 01:24:55.039 the nice casinos or anything like that, but the little ones, 1634 01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:58.119 you know out by the beach that are supposed to 1635 01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:01.079 be there for the tourists, right, the ones you're talking about, 1636 01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:04.319 the little the little older uh script type motels like 1637 01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:07.119 uh like the additional part of the like like what 1638 01:25:07.239 --> 01:25:10.119 the Bates Motel looks like, almost but without the big house. 1639 01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:12.279 This is what we're talking. 1640 01:25:12.039 --> 01:25:15.159 About, right, No, I'm telling you, I'm telling a boy 1641 01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:16.720 some of the big name hotels down there that the 1642 01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:19.079 word was that if you could lure a guy down there, 1643 01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:20.199 that they would help you rip him off. 1644 01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:22.239 But they but they used to do that at those 1645 01:25:22.319 --> 01:25:24.079 two which you're just outside of the strip. 1646 01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:25.960 Well, yeah, I don't know it that well, I don't 1647 01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:27.319 know what I'm going to say that. Well, hey, but 1648 01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:29.159 what do you know about the whole deal with Trump 1649 01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:32.640 and MERV Griffin? Uh, with that whole bidding war that 1650 01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:38.439 went on. We basically MERV Griffin won and and out 1651 01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:40.239 smart Trump in every possible way. 1652 01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:43.479 Oh yeah, well that was during the time when he 1653 01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:46.720 when he over overdid it and uh, one of his 1654 01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:48.399 go ahead. 1655 01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:49.880 We had Resorts International. 1656 01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:52.199 MERV Griffin owned Resorts International, and they were both bidden 1657 01:25:52.239 --> 01:25:55.199 for the same property. And then merv Adam bid all 1658 01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:57.159 the stuff up. And it's funny too because at the 1659 01:25:57.199 --> 01:26:00.359 same time that was going on, that that MERVH. Griffin 1660 01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:04.399 was eating Donald Trump's lunch and taking this guy to 1661 01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:09.800 the bank. Uh, Murph Griffin, who was homosexual as well, 1662 01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:13.000 was chasing around that guy Denny Terrio from Dance Fever 1663 01:26:13.399 --> 01:26:14.279 and Danny Terrio. 1664 01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:17.319 Danny Terrio was had to file like. 1665 01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:20.920 A sexual harassment suit against Merph Griffin, you know, because 1666 01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:24.319 at the time, Danny Terrio was roommates with my girlfriend's brother, 1667 01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:25.960 so we knew the whole story. 1668 01:26:26.319 --> 01:26:29.960 Well, yeah, he lived in New York. Terrio was actually 1669 01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:32.840 involved in the club scene in New York a lot. 1670 01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:36.920 That's kind of how he got picked out of that, 1671 01:26:37.399 --> 01:26:40.039 you know, to be brought in there, I think is 1672 01:26:40.079 --> 01:26:43.199 because he was just like a constantly present figure there. 1673 01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:46.960 I heard about that stuff secondhand, you know. But h 1674 01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:50.159 but no, you knew his roommates. 1675 01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:53.079 Yeah, his roommate was my girlfriend's brother. 1676 01:26:54.840 --> 01:27:00.319 Wommates you know. Uh, yeah, it's just so much No, 1677 01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:03.600 but I remember that he actually was like he wouldn't 1678 01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:06.000 leave him alone, is what the story was like. He 1679 01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:10.319 was constantly on this guy and uh yeah, Danny Terryo 1680 01:27:10.439 --> 01:27:11.520 from Dance Fever. 1681 01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:14.920 Mark was in love with him then, you know. 1682 01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:16.079 Uh. 1683 01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:18.800 But at the same time, Merv, you know, was beating Trump, 1684 01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:21.479 you know, at every game there, you know, and when 1685 01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:24.560 you see and then Trump after Trump lost, he put 1686 01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:26.359 out all this press stuff like that, saying he won, 1687 01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:28.760 he won, he beat Marv Griffin, and they would interview 1688 01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:32.119 Merv Griffin and he would just smile and said, I 1689 01:27:32.199 --> 01:27:35.399 got everything I wanted. I got everything I wanted. 1690 01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:39.760 You know, because he over extended himself so bad trying 1691 01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:43.560 to beat Merv at everything. There's one of his bankruptcies, 1692 01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:44.760 right yeah, you. 1693 01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:46.840 Know, yeah, my god. 1694 01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:49.840 The whole Trump thing is just so obnoxious it's not 1695 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:52.439 even funny. And then he got his whole connection to 1696 01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:58.079 Al Sharpton. You know, these two guys a longtime buddies. 1697 01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:04.840 Al Sharpton was trying to get into a boxing right 1698 01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:05.399 right now. 1699 01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:08.600 Now, that's not too unusual. Look, this is previous to 1700 01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:12.079 the days that he basically resembles a bobblehead version of 1701 01:28:12.199 --> 01:28:18.279 himself on MSNBC, right but when he was still running 1702 01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:21.079 around in the track suits and all that, he was 1703 01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:23.479 definitely a self promoter kind of guy. And this is 1704 01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:26.000 during the time when there were lots of people that 1705 01:28:26.039 --> 01:28:29.880 you could run into that called themselves promoters and and 1706 01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:34.880 and things like that. And of course the boxing scene 1707 01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:38.159 on the East Coast at that time was pretty interesting. 1708 01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.840 And yeah, I do recall that that was one of 1709 01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:46.279 the REVS businesses that he was trying to get into 1710 01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:49.239 in between fighting with you know, Roy Ennis on the 1711 01:28:49.319 --> 01:28:51.000 Morton Downey Junior Show and all that. 1712 01:28:52.439 --> 01:28:54.880 Wait, okay, go about that. 1713 01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:58.920 You know, a Trump's I mean a Sharpton's girlfriend had 1714 01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:02.039 an apartment at Trump's Tower is one thing, right, And 1715 01:29:02.159 --> 01:29:05.199 also too, you know that Rogers Stone ran Al Sharpton's 1716 01:29:05.199 --> 01:29:08.159 presidential campaign, the same guy that runs Trump's campaign right now. 1717 01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:08.920 Rogers Stone. 1718 01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:12.000 Yeah, the off the books guy that you know was 1719 01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:14.600 dismissed from the campaign. I'm holding up air quotes for 1720 01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:17.920 you at home. Who's dismissed from the campaign. I literally 1721 01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:20.600 call him Donald Trump's brain. You know, they used to 1722 01:29:20.680 --> 01:29:24.840 say that Carl Rove was George W. Bush's brain. Now 1723 01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:28.479 I really think that Roger Stone is actually Donald Trump's brain. 1724 01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:31.359 Oh yeah, well he brought in that guy Manicourt from 1725 01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:36.159 Manifort Manicurt. Uh, we have Paul Manicourt, who there's a 1726 01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:38.319 whole thing. Then these guys are outed that these were 1727 01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:43.039 these guys will call me the the torturers lobbyists. Uh, 1728 01:29:43.319 --> 01:29:46.000 way back when this is the whole mixing bunch coming back. 1729 01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:48.079 Roger Stone, Uh. 1730 01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:49.319 Who's that guy? 1731 01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:49.560 Uh? 1732 01:29:50.039 --> 01:29:53.960 The speech writer, Pat Buchanan and Paul Maniford. 1733 01:29:54.319 --> 01:29:57.680 You know this, guys, you know we're bringing back Nixon 1734 01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:02.920 with with that Sharpton thrown in because Al is so 1735 01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:05.159 connected to all this crap, it's not even funny. 1736 01:30:05.439 --> 01:30:06.640 Al Sharpton, by the way, the. 1737 01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:10.680 FBI asset that worked undercover for the FBI running around 1738 01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:13.560 wire tapping everybody all over New York City making cases 1739 01:30:13.600 --> 01:30:16.039 against mafia guys, the same mafia guys as Sharpen that 1740 01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:17.039 Trump is dealing with. 1741 01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:23.600 Yeah, that's all bizarre thing too. Yeah, what was his 1742 01:30:23.720 --> 01:30:25.039 confidential informat number? 1743 01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:27.279 Again, I forget, I don't know the number. 1744 01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:29.039 But he had a phone. 1745 01:30:29.119 --> 01:30:32.680 He had a phone in his apartment, a Sharpton that 1746 01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:35.039 when he picked it up, the FBI had an open 1747 01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:38.039 line to that phone, listening to every phone call live 1748 01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:42.159 on that line. Okay, he had a special phone, plus 1749 01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:43.800 that little briefcase used to carry around. 1750 01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:46.600 Yeah, now we know what was in the briefcase. 1751 01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:51.640 It was wired up. Yeah, oh my god. 1752 01:30:52.239 --> 01:30:55.279 It's so it's so amazing to watch all these interesting 1753 01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:59.079 people come together and you wonder, you know exactly how 1754 01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:02.399 dirty each other hands are, But they're all stuck in 1755 01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:05.279 the same slop sink as far as I'm concerned. You know, 1756 01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:07.840 That's what it comes down to when you talk about 1757 01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:13.079 And it's amazing to me because again, I see legitimate 1758 01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:17.520 people that want to get behind Bernie Sanders. Yeah, okay, 1759 01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:21.119 I see legitimate people, as dumb as it seems, want 1760 01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:26.560 to get behind Donald Trump. I don't run into Hillary supporters. 1761 01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:29.119 I recently had somebody tell me that they actually knew 1762 01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:32.720 some but and you know what, until I see it, 1763 01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:35.319 I ain't believe in it because everywhere I go and 1764 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:38.479 anybody I talk to pretty much, for the most part, 1765 01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:44.199 you can't find anybody who's passionately backing you know, Schillery Hillary, 1766 01:31:44.319 --> 01:31:48.159 whatever you want to call her, who is effectively really 1767 01:31:48.479 --> 01:31:52.359 the neocon that's being presented to us. And at the 1768 01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:55.079 same time, you know, it's like, well, this guy's different. 1769 01:31:55.319 --> 01:31:57.319 How is he different? I don't get it. I mean, 1770 01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:00.640 like I said, the only difference I see is that 1771 01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:04.279 instead of holding political office okay, and getting his TV 1772 01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:06.880 time that way, he actually got a paycheck from the 1773 01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:11.079 TV networks. And now instead of him paying to be 1774 01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:16.600 on television constantly, they cover him for free continuously. I mean, 1775 01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:19.720 this guy doesn't have to spend campaign dollars to get 1776 01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:23.319 his advertising. He's got it for free as a constant. 1777 01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:27.840 And meanwhile, it's not like he's any different than any 1778 01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:30.840 other criminal. You can tie these people all sorts of 1779 01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:37.439 criminal enterprises, disgusting human beings like this Epstein. I mean, 1780 01:32:37.720 --> 01:32:40.239 what else can you say? And I'm telling you watch, 1781 01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:44.880 by the way, watch that lawn order sbu thing if 1782 01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:47.520 you get a chance at if you got Netflix or something, 1783 01:32:47.520 --> 01:32:52.560 I'm sure it's on there. It is really eerie, some 1784 01:32:52.720 --> 01:32:55.199 of the stuff that's going on there. You know, the 1785 01:32:55.279 --> 01:32:58.640 girl that's procuring, the interesting way the girls are getting 1786 01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:02.840 sent out, the massage, which is the whole The character 1787 01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:08.159 who would be representative of Epstein effectively winds up actually 1788 01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:11.840 saying that he was raped by one of the girls 1789 01:33:11.960 --> 01:33:15.279 at one point in his defense, but other than that, 1790 01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:18.920 it's really bizarre. And somebody else brought that up to 1791 01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:20.359 me on the Skype here. I got a bunch of 1792 01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:22.439 Skype messages while we were talking about all this stuff. 1793 01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:23.760 By the way, yet, so. 1794 01:33:26.279 --> 01:33:31.159 It's really really bizarre to see this. You know, would 1795 01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:34.760 you even want these people to come to a barbecue 1796 01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:37.279 at your house? You know what I'm saying if you 1797 01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:42.199 knew all of the dirty, disgusting things that they're involved in, 1798 01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:46.039 all of the illegitimate business, all the criminality, all of 1799 01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:49.159 the people that are being shuffled around, you know, in 1800 01:33:49.319 --> 01:33:52.279 order to service other individuals who are being chewed up 1801 01:33:52.319 --> 01:33:55.439 and spit out as slaves, all of the profitteering on 1802 01:33:55.600 --> 01:34:00.399 other people's misery and all that stuff. And meanwhile they 1803 01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:03.000 end up on television with people cheering for him. You know. 1804 01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:07.079 It's just it's such a backwards world. 1805 01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:13.399 Yeah, I know, you're absolutely right. These are such sleazy 1806 01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:17.920 people in every possible way, way beyond what you would 1807 01:34:17.960 --> 01:34:20.800 would accept, you know, in your own home or as 1808 01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:23.319 a friendship with someone you know, or even doing a 1809 01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:24.279 business deal with them. 1810 01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:26.279 But yeah, these are our leaders. 1811 01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:26.479 You know. 1812 01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:29.439 It seems like the people at the top of you 1813 01:34:29.560 --> 01:34:33.520 get up there through blackmail, and because there was with Epstein. 1814 01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:36.479 Back to Epstein, you know, in his home. They talk 1815 01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:38.479 about how there was hidden cameras all over the home, 1816 01:34:38.520 --> 01:34:41.279 you know, and they said in the probable cause affidavit 1817 01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:45.119 that it was likely for blackmail purposes, you know, so 1818 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:48.800 and you just hear it over and over and over again, 1819 01:34:49.520 --> 01:34:51.920 just used over and over. Had Henry Vincent on the show, 1820 01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:56.119 who was the Confessions of a DC Madam, the homosexual madam, 1821 01:34:56.640 --> 01:34:58.439 you know, and he talked about how he was mixed 1822 01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:02.039 up with Craig Spence and Larry King in Washington, d C. 1823 01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:06.439 And UH and Craig Spence had working for him and 1824 01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:10.359 his blackmail deal. He had secret service agents. 1825 01:35:11.399 --> 01:35:14.119 Well, when you mentioned Larry when you mentioned Larry King here, 1826 01:35:14.119 --> 01:35:15.920 you're not talking about the interviewer it used to be 1827 01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:18.319 on CNN for years and years. You're talking about the 1828 01:35:18.359 --> 01:35:23.279 other Larry King, like Franklin cover up Larry King, right, yeah, yeah. 1829 01:35:23.159 --> 01:35:25.279 The Larry King from the Franklin cover up that's saying 1830 01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:29.319 the national anthem at the Reagan inaugural. And by the way, 1831 01:35:29.319 --> 01:35:31.680 you got all these folks who left the rant and 1832 01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:34.600 rave about what a great guy Reagan was. You know, 1833 01:35:34.800 --> 01:35:36.239 it's so you know, it's all. 1834 01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:37.960 And by the way, too well, we're at it too. 1835 01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:41.560 When you had the Bush Convention right later on and 1836 01:35:41.720 --> 01:35:44.560 Coreta Scott King set in the Bush Box with next 1837 01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:47.239 to Barbara Bush and George Bush, you know who arranged 1838 01:35:47.239 --> 01:35:51.079 at Al Sharpton broke it that deal and he got ah, 1839 01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:53.640 he got a payoff out of it through Alta Modo. 1840 01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:56.119 You know, it's it's all. 1841 01:35:56.279 --> 01:35:58.800 You know, there's a great series of articles on Al 1842 01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:02.399 Sharpton in the Village Voice. I'm trying to get them 1843 01:36:02.439 --> 01:36:04.000 to come on the show and talk to me about this, 1844 01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:06.520 and they never respond to me. But maybe now that 1845 01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:10.720 I become buddies with that guy, uh who's the big 1846 01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:12.439 scientology guy. 1847 01:36:12.840 --> 01:36:15.840 And I forget his name, but he was the editor 1848 01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:16.880 for the Village Voice. 1849 01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:23.079 May megan him come on now, Tony Ortega, who was 1850 01:36:23.319 --> 01:36:26.079 the big scientology guy. But but there's a great series 1851 01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:28.279 of articles in the Village of Voice about Al Sharpton 1852 01:36:28.279 --> 01:36:31.800 and and how the GOP ran his presidential campaign, about 1853 01:36:31.880 --> 01:36:35.079 Roger Stone ran his campaign, all of his you know, 1854 01:36:35.239 --> 01:36:37.640 bizarre stuff with the GOP. He's always been in their 1855 01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:40.840 pocket all this time, and he is a Trump's buddy. 1856 01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:43.960 Yeah, we'll talk about controlled opposition. 1857 01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:48.039 When when he's full time FBI working for the FBI, 1858 01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:50.920 and now when there's a kid gets shot with his 1859 01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:54.319 hands up in Ferguson, Missouri, and Al Shrump says, well, 1860 01:36:54.359 --> 01:36:56.399 let's turn it over to the Department of Justice. We'll 1861 01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:59.640 get justice there, we will, right, and he's turning or 1862 01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:02.199 after we FBI handlers and nothing happens. 1863 01:37:02.279 --> 01:37:04.239 We get screwed every time they shoot us all now. 1864 01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:08.119 Yeah, exactly, And now you know, on a daily basis, actually, 1865 01:37:08.199 --> 01:37:11.279 although again the media is not covering it, not the mainstream, 1866 01:37:11.399 --> 01:37:15.439 not the alternative, on a daily basis, effectively, somebody is 1867 01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:21.239 being killed in confrontations with the police all over the country, okay, 1868 01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:24.560 and and nobody's focusing on it. You know. That's why 1869 01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:29.840 I've taken using the hashtag on Twitter no Lives Matter, Okay, 1870 01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:33.479 because this is what we're looking at. When you have 1871 01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:39.920 a thoroughly evil, okay, core of individuals who have risen 1872 01:37:40.039 --> 01:37:43.319 the power, who seem to run every single thing, who 1873 01:37:43.359 --> 01:37:46.640 are involved in every kind of business that affects, you know, 1874 01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:49.520 the lives of the public. H not the least of 1875 01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:52.920 which is the political system, but everything. It seems as 1876 01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:57.439 though it is permeated by these truly demented and I 1877 01:37:57.600 --> 01:38:01.960 hate to use the term, but demonic most individuals. And 1878 01:38:02.439 --> 01:38:07.039 and and you're not surprised by anything any longer when 1879 01:38:07.079 --> 01:38:11.039 you start to understand that everybody's in bed with everybody else. 1880 01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:15.479 Everybody is UH you know, fully committed to UH to 1881 01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:19.640 to making sure they protect their predatory buddies one way 1882 01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:23.439 or another. Everybody's profiting from it. And meanwhile, you know, 1883 01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:25.520 where where does that leave guys like you and me? 1884 01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:28.239 And who are what suckers that actually want to make 1885 01:38:28.279 --> 01:38:32.279 a living, you know, doing something that doesn't always prop 1886 01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:33.840 it off of the blood of other people. 1887 01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:38.800 You know, we're the fools, you know, but I think 1888 01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:40.920 we are, you know, because I grew up with Sharpton. 1889 01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:42.359 I knew how shopped and when I was a kid, 1890 01:38:42.439 --> 01:38:44.880 you know, back in New York City, and even I 1891 01:38:44.960 --> 01:38:48.640 had brushes with Trump. Trump's a head of security right now, 1892 01:38:48.720 --> 01:38:50.119 is a guy that I had to work with, you know, 1893 01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:53.439 And all these guys have brushed up against them in 1894 01:38:53.560 --> 01:38:56.960 all this time, you know, And now here I am 1895 01:38:57.079 --> 01:38:59.000 running my mouth and I'm getting death threats, you know, 1896 01:38:59.039 --> 01:39:00.000 almost every frigging day. 1897 01:39:00.039 --> 01:39:03.920 He now from these characters and it seems like. 1898 01:39:03.920 --> 01:39:06.600 They were all like profiting in really really high places. 1899 01:39:06.920 --> 01:39:08.199 You know, one of us is doing the wrong thing, 1900 01:39:08.279 --> 01:39:09.640 one of the one of us made a big mistake 1901 01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:10.239 with their life. 1902 01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:13.319 It's me or them, but they seem to be getting 1903 01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:14.760 away with it, man like blatantly. 1904 01:39:14.880 --> 01:39:18.479 You know. Uh yeah, that's that's the truth. But you 1905 01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:20.520 know what, at the at the end of it all, ed, 1906 01:39:21.319 --> 01:39:24.279 I would say that, you know, there's no amount of 1907 01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:26.399 paper that somebody is going to be able to present 1908 01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:29.920 me or digital representations thereof that are gonna make me 1909 01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.039 sell my soul. So uh so this this is where 1910 01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:34.720 it's at. I'm willing to put in the work, but 1911 01:39:34.760 --> 01:39:37.319 I'm not willing to give you the entire store, you know, 1912 01:39:37.439 --> 01:39:39.920 which is which is my guts and my my mind 1913 01:39:39.960 --> 01:39:42.439 and my my heart and soul basically. You know, if 1914 01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:44.119 I'm going to do that, I'll do it like I 1915 01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:47.399 am now and give it away. You know that that's 1916 01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:49.520 that's just fine. I'll give it away to somebody. I'm 1917 01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:52.720 not gonna sell it, you know, because because that's that's 1918 01:39:52.840 --> 01:39:55.319 just the choice that I've made, and you're making the 1919 01:39:55.359 --> 01:39:57.239 same choice, you know I am. 1920 01:39:57.640 --> 01:39:59.359 And then I see a kind of like Reverend Pinkney 1921 01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:01.920 sixty seven years old. He's doing ten years in prison 1922 01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:05.760 for some trumped up political charges, you know, And that's 1923 01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:06.680 what I have to look forward to. 1924 01:40:07.079 --> 01:40:09.399 You know, this is pretty much what I have to 1925 01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:10.000 look forward to. 1926 01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:14.279 Man, you know, unfortunately it may be. But I'll tell 1927 01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:16.960 you what. And and you and I are talking a 1928 01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:18.880 little bit. I think I'm gonna try and bring Reverend 1929 01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:21.720 Pinney on this show and uh and see if we 1930 01:40:21.840 --> 01:40:24.960 can't get get the word out about what's actually happened 1931 01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:27.760 to him. Of course, uh uh, Webster Tarpley was talking 1932 01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:29.319 to him for a little while and stuff like that, 1933 01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:31.960 so people might have heard it there. But but the 1934 01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:35.319 truth is that there's a whole lot of people that 1935 01:40:35.600 --> 01:40:41.439 are being you know, preyed upon, and generally it's people 1936 01:40:41.600 --> 01:40:45.359 like you and me who are you know, not connected, 1937 01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:47.359 who are not part of the evil nexus, who are 1938 01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:50.680 not selling our souls and giving in to uh, you know, 1939 01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:54.159 basically what what what boils not basically forget it, what 1940 01:40:54.319 --> 01:40:57.359 boils down to child rape? What boils down to you know, 1941 01:40:57.840 --> 01:41:01.279 trafficking and pimps and trafficking and other people's misery and blood. 1942 01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:05.239 But look, before we run totally out of time, you know, 1943 01:41:05.399 --> 01:41:08.800 tell people about, you know, the Opperman Report, because I 1944 01:41:08.920 --> 01:41:10.760 know that we're on the same network and people can 1945 01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:14.119 catch your show on Saturdays here on American Freedom Radio. 1946 01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:17.399 But you also have a website, you know, and there's 1947 01:41:17.479 --> 01:41:19.279 other things you do, and I want to give you 1948 01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:21.439 time to talk about that a little bit before we're done. 1949 01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:24.560 Yeah, Well, Opperman Report dot com. 1950 01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:28.439 We've got a special member section a lot of these documents, 1951 01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:30.239 these court docks and stuff like that we're talking about. 1952 01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:35.199 I just uploaded fourteen PDFs of all the Trump University 1953 01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:40.560 lawsuit documents on there, plus his exclusive interviews. Today, I 1954 01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:50.760 interviewed Kevin Sullivan about the Bundy murders, interviewed Montgomery Blair 1955 01:41:50.840 --> 01:41:55.560 Sibley that the attorney for the DC, Madam Palfrey, Geen Palffrey. 1956 01:41:56.439 --> 01:41:58.760 We uploaded all those docs, all the phone numbers. 1957 01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:00.680 If you want to look at the phone numbers everyone's 1958 01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:03.199 talking about about her on her Horizon bill. That's up 1959 01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:06.079 on operareport dot com. You can find on there. So yeah, 1960 01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:09.199 on Friday on Saturdays, we're on American Freedom Radio. We 1961 01:42:09.319 --> 01:42:10.800 do other shows as well. You can find in the 1962 01:42:10.960 --> 01:42:13.439 archives on speakers and iTunes and iHeart and all that 1963 01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:14.000 kind of stuff. 1964 01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:17.279 We're working. I have a GoFundMe right now. Go fundme. 1965 01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:20.840 Front Flash Operaman Report. We're trying to raise funds to 1966 01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:22.319 get to California in the. 1967 01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:25.279 Next two weeks. I'm going to film with Hank Harrison. 1968 01:42:25.640 --> 01:42:28.520 Hank Harrison the father of Courtney Love, who has broke 1969 01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:32.079 some incredible stuff on my show about how his daughter 1970 01:42:32.239 --> 01:42:34.560 was dating a CIA agent and went to Ireland with 1971 01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:38.119 the fifteen thousand hits LSD and was involved in child 1972 01:42:38.199 --> 01:42:41.039 trafficking herself. She was on Jeffrey Epstein's plane, by the way, 1973 01:42:41.439 --> 01:42:44.600 and also too, he was friends with Kenneth Anger, and 1974 01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:48.159 Kenneth Anger told him that the people at MTV when 1975 01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:50.239 they created an MTV and started MTV, they were all 1976 01:42:50.279 --> 01:42:55.079 doing all kinds of occult rituals and sacrifices and all 1977 01:42:55.159 --> 01:42:57.720 kinds of stuff going on. That's what Kenneth Anger told 1978 01:42:57.880 --> 01:43:00.119 Hank Harrison. So I'm trying to get to California the 1979 01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:02.640 tape with Hank Harrison. I'd also like the table them 1980 01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:04.760 out there with Peter Dale Scott, who's invited me to 1981 01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:05.720 come out there and talk to him. 1982 01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:07.600 So we need these funds. 1983 01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:12.319 Go fund me Opperman Report to fund that, or you 1984 01:43:12.359 --> 01:43:16.039 can join the members section at Oppermanreport dot com and 1985 01:43:16.119 --> 01:43:18.000 that'll help support this trip next week. 1986 01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:18.840 That we're trying to put together. 1987 01:43:19.359 --> 01:43:21.399 But otherwise, you catch my show on American Freedom Right 1988 01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:22.479 on Saturday's five pm. 1989 01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:28.119 Yeah, absolutely, and it's always interesting. In fact, recently I 1990 01:43:28.239 --> 01:43:33.319 have you posted the thing with Apridity Jones yet? Yeah, 1991 01:43:33.399 --> 01:43:33.920 that's up there. 1992 01:43:33.960 --> 01:43:38.279 That's on Speakerts on YouTube on the Ed Opperman YouTube channel. 1993 01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:42.079 That's an interesting show where she's trying to defend Michael Jackson. 1994 01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:44.359 Oh my god, oh yes. 1995 01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:47.760 Oh yes. And here's the fun part about that. I 1996 01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:51.159 actually want to interview Aphrodity Jones, but not about Michael Jackson. 1997 01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:55.439 I want to talk to her about the BTK killer Okay, 1998 01:43:55.640 --> 01:44:00.359 this Dennis Raider, because she she also wrote a book 1999 01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:01.880 on that. She's written a lot of books. She's been 2000 01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:04.479 on you know, investigation, Discovery, all that kind of stuff. 2001 01:44:05.199 --> 01:44:08.600 Interesting lady for sure, But who knows, maybe I'll get 2002 01:44:08.640 --> 01:44:11.840 to interview her about a completely different subject and I 2003 01:44:11.960 --> 01:44:13.479 might not piss her off like I did. 2004 01:44:14.199 --> 01:44:18.279 So check out Pat Brown Pat brown Criminal profile. She 2005 01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:22.439 did her about BTK and she has some good information 2006 01:44:22.520 --> 01:44:25.279 on that too, there's another suspect in the BTA killer 2007 01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:28.920 and that first murder of the first BTK murder who 2008 01:44:29.960 --> 01:44:32.600 had had like human hair under his bed and stuff 2009 01:44:32.640 --> 01:44:35.560 like that. It was like a bag full of trophy 2010 01:44:35.600 --> 01:44:38.840 hair and stuff. Who was another serial killer in that neighborhood. 2011 01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:42.800 They're doing stuff whole another take, and and Dave McCowan 2012 01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:46.600 was more in tune with that theory than Afortity Jones. 2013 01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:49.640 Well right, Unfortunately Dave passed away not long ago, but 2014 01:44:51.359 --> 01:44:54.560 incredibly interesting information that he developed. And one of the 2015 01:44:54.920 --> 01:44:57.159 things that I found funny about that before we close 2016 01:44:57.199 --> 01:44:59.399 and get out on out of here, is that you 2017 01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:01.920 brought up something that did occur to me when I 2018 01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:05.279 was flipping through some of the photographs that had been 2019 01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:09.039 passed around. There was this small folder of photographs that 2020 01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:12.880 had been passed around a few years ago, you know, electronically, 2021 01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:16.840 and gee, it does seem as though somebody knew what 2022 01:45:16.920 --> 01:45:21.039 Dennis Rader was doing. Because you couldn't easily take a 2023 01:45:21.119 --> 01:45:25.680 photograph of yourself in a certain position. I thought that 2024 01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:29.720 was pretty fascinating. And you know what, just because the 2025 01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:33.760 mainstream media and the documentary filmmakers in Hollywood tells you 2026 01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:38.079 certain stories about the predators that are out there, it 2027 01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:41.479 doesn't necessarily mean they got all their facts straight by 2028 01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:46.159 the bye. Like I'm thoroughly convinced that Charles Manson is 2029 01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:50.680 probably not as guilty of all the things they claim 2030 01:45:50.800 --> 01:45:53.319 he is. And I know I take a lot of 2031 01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:55.279 heat for that, But when I take a look at 2032 01:45:55.439 --> 01:46:00.680 the Bugliosi behavior and the prosecutors off in l A 2033 01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:03.640 at the time and everything else, I say that there 2034 01:46:03.720 --> 01:46:07.159 is lots of reasonable doubt contained within even that case. 2035 01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:10.000 And people give me heat for that, but I don't care. 2036 01:46:11.479 --> 01:46:14.840 There there's always questionable stuff when these guys push these 2037 01:46:14.920 --> 01:46:19.159 narratives in the media, and that's something that that you 2038 01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:21.199 you know real well, don't you. 2039 01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:24.359 Yeah, I think the whole Manson thing might be more 2040 01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:27.760 to cover up, uh, his his involvement with people like 2041 01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:31.479 the Beatles and the Beach Boys and the Processed Church 2042 01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:34.840 and uh and the process Church is involvement with Sir 2043 01:46:34.920 --> 01:46:37.039 Hansir hand you know, I have an iron did I 2044 01:46:37.039 --> 01:46:37.560 have a sing of that? 2045 01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:41.199 I n s document that I have, Well, I'll send 2046 01:46:41.239 --> 01:46:41.439 it to you. 2047 01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:44.920 Well, please please do, because that that is exactly the 2048 01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.479 direction I'm going in here, that I think that there 2049 01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:51.439 was some myths on Manson and his people that nobody 2050 01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:55.199 wants to have emerged, just like with Sir hansor Han. 2051 01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:57.960 I mean, they they quashed that trial real quick, got 2052 01:46:58.039 --> 01:46:59.640 rid of all the evidence, got rid of all the 2053 01:46:59.680 --> 01:47:02.560 investment gated material. You know that they could. I mean, 2054 01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:05.000 Jamie Scott Enyert was on this show talking about his 2055 01:47:05.079 --> 01:47:08.199 photographs disappeared. But I assure you there's a lot more 2056 01:47:08.239 --> 01:47:12.119 to that story too, and it's really really bizarre. And 2057 01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:15.439 Los Angeles is probably one of the most corrupt police 2058 01:47:15.479 --> 01:47:18.439 departments I've ever seen in my life. You know. Uh, 2059 01:47:19.119 --> 01:47:21.359 fear is what I have the only time I've been 2060 01:47:21.439 --> 01:47:23.800 in Los Angeles when it comes to law enforcement there, 2061 01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:25.520 and that was years and years ago. 2062 01:47:26.079 --> 01:47:28.359 You know this document that I have, I got it 2063 01:47:28.399 --> 01:47:32.000 from Maury Terry and it says that Sir hanser Han 2064 01:47:32.239 --> 01:47:34.760 was at a drug and sex party thrown by the 2065 01:47:34.840 --> 01:47:39.159 Processed Church at Sharon Tates home. Wow, yep, And that's 2066 01:47:40.399 --> 01:47:44.640 that's that's incredible. And it talks to about Papa Phillips 2067 01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:48.560 uh being the main funder of funded raising the funds 2068 01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:51.600 for the process Church. And I got other stuff too 2069 01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:53.720 that I really can't talk about on the air with 2070 01:47:53.880 --> 01:47:57.720 the the Roy Raiden hitman being involved. He was a 2071 01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:02.640 bodyguard for my papa, Mama casts Phillips, and I got 2072 01:48:02.680 --> 01:48:03.039 a whole lot. 2073 01:48:03.079 --> 01:48:05.239 I got a ton of stuff, you know. 2074 01:48:05.439 --> 01:48:10.079 And Manson probably brought drugs to Mama too at certain 2075 01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:12.520 points and all this, I mean, people don't realize exactly 2076 01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:14.680 how deeply this wasn't a guy just sitting in the 2077 01:48:14.720 --> 01:48:17.039 desert with a bunch of dirty hippie chicks that he 2078 01:48:17.079 --> 01:48:19.680 would show up with, you know, randomly at parties. There 2079 01:48:19.800 --> 01:48:23.359 was a whole thing going on there that that was 2080 01:48:23.560 --> 01:48:26.600 you know. Like I said, there's a lot more behind 2081 01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:30.640 the headlines and the legend of Helter Skelter than people realize. 2082 01:48:30.680 --> 01:48:33.279 And I'm not saying that he's an innocent guy. I'm 2083 01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:36.760 just saying that they sort of put the wrong noose 2084 01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:39.680 around his neck and dragged him away so that you 2085 01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:42.199 wouldn't bother to look at what was actually behind him. 2086 01:48:42.479 --> 01:48:45.319 That's all I'm saying about it. But anyway, Ed Opperman 2087 01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:46.760 has been my guest tonight. Got