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Speaker 2: I had on on Monday night was a feeling I
Speaker 2: really hadn't had in a long time, and that was
Speaker 2: watching my Louisville basketball team that I you know, I
Speaker 2: am a lunatic for If that is a thing, like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm a lunatic for you, that would probably not be
Speaker 2: something that people would hear and feel good about. They
Speaker 2: might think you're a crazy person, but hey, I know
Speaker 2: I'm not the only one that's crazy about the louisvill
Speaker 2: basketball program. And it's unhealthy for sure, but it is
Speaker 2: what it is. When I say, on hell healthy, it's unhealthy.
Speaker 2: How much my morale and mood changes whenever things are
Speaker 2: going good or bad. And clearly things have been bad
Speaker 2: for a while for Louisville basketball.
Speaker 1: But not anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean, really, it's been an upward climb since Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey got hired. He did everything I feel like you
Speaker 2: can do up until you know you can actually give
Speaker 2: results that matter and mean the most, which is winning
Speaker 2: and losing, and so far he's one to zero. But
Speaker 2: the way in which they played, and I mean I
Speaker 2: wasn't there obviously, I didn't get to go, and when
Speaker 2: I do go to games this year, I never can
Speaker 2: stick around for the whole thing because I got to
Speaker 2: do the postgame show. But I'll be at plenty of
Speaker 2: this year, trust me. But you know, just to see
Speaker 2: from my house watching the crowd get into it, and
Speaker 2: clearly they were feeding off of how hard this team
Speaker 2: was playing. And I went back and watched a little
Speaker 2: bit of it last night. I put it on the
Speaker 2: iPad for Moose. He's all in, baby, he's all in
Speaker 2: on mean, perfect age for him, perfect age for how
Speaker 2: this played out so selfishly for me. Not only is
Speaker 2: it great that you know, we're out with the old
Speaker 2: era in with the new one. But before this year,
Speaker 2: Moose wasn't old enough to really understand like if we
Speaker 2: were like winning and losing, right, But now he like knows, Hey,
Speaker 2: every time there's any game on football, basketball, baseball, anything,
Speaker 2: if we turn on wrestling or boxing or you have
Speaker 2: c anything, dad who we like, Dad who we like?
Speaker 2: He wants to know which team we're rooting for. And
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to ask me when it comes to
Speaker 2: the go cards because he knows that's our team. But
Speaker 2: you know, it's good now that he's you know, he's
Speaker 2: he's he's likely going to see a lot more winning
Speaker 2: than losing, and that's that's good. But anyways, when it
Speaker 2: comes to the you know, watching this group on Monday,
Speaker 2: I mean, I really do believe that they played better
Speaker 2: than they've played at any like they put it this way.
Speaker 2: They played harder. You could tell there was more attention
Speaker 2: to detail. The intensity was there, and that's been there
Speaker 2: every step of the way. And the two exhibitions in
Speaker 2: the Bahamas and the two exhibition games they played this
Speaker 2: year just a few weeks ago, like they've played hard
Speaker 2: and looked and looked the part and looked like a
Speaker 2: team that is coached by Pat Kelsey. But it was
Speaker 2: a different level on Monday night. And that's great to
Speaker 2: see because it's a real game and it counts, and
Speaker 2: I mean, you were able to jump up quite a
Speaker 2: bit in the Knpom because you beat a team by
Speaker 2: forty eight points. And you know, I'm well aware that
Speaker 2: they're going to have a different kind of challenge against
Speaker 2: Tennessee on Saturday. But to go back to those feelings
Speaker 2: that we didn't have for a long time, now they're
Speaker 2: coming back and they feel better than they probably did
Speaker 2: the last time around, because you know what, the last
Speaker 2: time around, it was more of a normal thing. It
Speaker 2: was more of, you know, a routine type of thing.
Speaker 2: We've been in a drought. We are desperate, we are
Speaker 2: starving for good vibes when it comes to Louisville basketball,
Speaker 2: and Monday was great. But now I'm feeling just the
Speaker 2: big game vibe right, like knowing, hey, here we go,
Speaker 2: Louisville basketball is about to have a big afternoon at
Speaker 2: the Yump Center, taking on a top fifteen team, and
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys, that can only speak
Speaker 2: for me. I think they're going to win. I do,
Speaker 2: and clearly that just sounds like the most Homerish thing
Speaker 2: to say. But if you listen to them even a
Speaker 2: little bit, I don't usually do that. Like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to say what I think will happen.
Speaker 2: But like if I felt like Louisville, you know, was
Speaker 2: likely going to lose, but man, they could compete and
Speaker 2: maybe they pull off a big upset like I I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. And again, you know me
Speaker 2: even a little bit. You know I'm often wrong. We
Speaker 2: all are. It was easy to you know, it was
Speaker 2: easy to be able to predetermine who wins any game.
Speaker 2: Then you know we wouldn't play sports because you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we would, but you could keep
Speaker 2: that a secret and make a billion dollars gambling on it.
Speaker 2: So again, what I'm trying to say is like, if
Speaker 2: you just look at the personnel on both sides, it's
Speaker 2: not a far fetched thing at all. In fact, I
Speaker 2: am eager to see what the spread is in this game.
Speaker 2: Tennessee will probably be favored but I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm wrong here because Tennessee being ranked preseason number twelve,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's due to the fact that they
Speaker 2: have a coach that deserves respect, like he deserves the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt, because more often than not, Tennessee's good.
Speaker 2: In the last seven years, Rick Barnes has won more
Speaker 2: SEC games than anybody else. So, you know, I get
Speaker 2: that their preseason ranked, but I think they're the perfect
Speaker 2: example of a team that's preseason ranked because of where
Speaker 2: they were last year and they did decent in the portal,
Speaker 2: but not to the level that Louisville did. And they
Speaker 2: do bring back one guy that I think is clearly
Speaker 2: worthy of, you know, not only respect, but like he's
Speaker 2: a good player, Zekai Zigler. He's been there a long time,
Speaker 2: he's been solid. Maybe he ends up being the guy
Speaker 2: for them this year. But if that's the case and
Speaker 2: he's their best player, which I think he is, I
Speaker 2: think that's pretty telling. Not that they're going to be terrible,
Speaker 2: but that Louisville maybe they don't have a guy that's
Speaker 2: as good as Ziggler, which I think they do. But
Speaker 2: let's just say you wanted to play Devil's advocate. Louisville's
Speaker 2: collection of players I think is substantially better than Tennessee's.
Speaker 2: I mean, Tennessee's got guys that have been there for
Speaker 2: a few years that didn't have much of a role. Well,
Speaker 2: now they're being expected to play many, you know, major minutes,
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't think they're going to be
Speaker 2: able to produce at a level that you would need
Speaker 2: to be in order to kind of maintain the top
Speaker 2: twelve status. And they've got portal guys just like Louisville.
Speaker 2: But Louisville's got more of them. And I think you
Speaker 2: can look at you know, for example, the guy they
Speaker 2: brought in from North Florida, I forget his name. He
Speaker 2: was a guy Kentucky wanted. He ended up choosing Tennessee,
Speaker 2: had a real big break I think Chas laneyar is
Speaker 2: his name. He had a big breakout season last year
Speaker 2: in North Florida, which is one of the lowest level
Speaker 2: Division one programs out there. And he may come in
Speaker 2: and drop forty on us because of you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, But you know, I think his numbers are
Speaker 2: more of a factor in where he played. I mean
Speaker 2: korin Johnson's more talented. Kaoran Johnson is our backup guard.
Speaker 2: I know what Terrence Edwards can do. I know Chucky
Speaker 2: Hepburn what he can do. Like I just think Louisville's
Speaker 2: a better team. They got better players.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Maybe Tennessee is able to keep Louisville from getting into
Speaker 2: what they want to do right. Maybe they're able to
Speaker 2: dictate pace and call some frustration on offense. And you
Speaker 2: know that wouldn't necessarily be a good recipe for Louisville.
Speaker 2: But I think they're better. I really do. So we'll
Speaker 2: have the postgame show on Saturday as soon as it ends,
Speaker 2: probably I guess roughly around two o'clock, the louisvill basketball
Speaker 2: post game show. No football postgame show, of course, because
Speaker 2: you know there's no game. But again, it's just nice
Speaker 2: to see a you know, a big game on the schedule,
Speaker 2: meaning a good team, and know that you're likely going
Speaker 2: to be in an atmosphere that's pretty awesome. Twenty two
Speaker 2: thousand certainly not. But I think that lower bowl is
Speaker 2: going to be full. I think the upper level will
Speaker 2: have you know, some fans up there. How many, I
Speaker 2: don't know, but look, if these guys come out and
Speaker 2: play hard. It's going to be a really big time
Speaker 2: atmosphere that we haven't had in a long time, and
Speaker 2: that can only potentially, I guess, you know, increase Louisville's
Speaker 2: chances of winning. So again, I know I sound super confident,
Speaker 2: and it's not that I'm telling you there's no scenario
Speaker 2: that they lose, But I guess I'm just excited to
Speaker 2: be able to look at this matchup and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe and maybe I'm maybe you're all laughing at me,
Speaker 2: and I'm, you know, in my own world here, just delusional.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't think looking at these two teams
Speaker 2: from a personnel standpoint and thinking Louisville is gonna win
Speaker 2: is crazy at all. And if it is crazy to you,
Speaker 2: it's because you're probably just still thinking of Louisville as
Speaker 2: a team that's been really down for the last however
Speaker 2: many years, that hasn't been ranked in the top twenty
Speaker 2: five since two thousand.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's where we.
Speaker 2: Are, or where we were, I should say, because it's
Speaker 2: certainly not that now. So it's exciting to be excited.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Scott who joins us here on the
Speaker 2: phone lines? What's happening, Scott, Ahi near?
Speaker 3: Howie you doing doing?
Speaker 1: Okay? How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing what? I'll thank you.
Speaker 4: I want to talk about a couple of things. Things
Speaker 4: I noticed when Pat Kelsey took over was energy effort
Speaker 4: and intensity.
Speaker 3: And I'm a.
Speaker 4: Sixty year old man who remembers Jenny Crumb. We had
Speaker 4: energy effort and intensity under him, under Patino, but when.
Speaker 3: The former coach.
Speaker 4: Showed up, it was nothing, no energy, nothing.
Speaker 3: He was just a lot kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Scott, it really you know it, trust me.
Speaker 2: It wasn't as if I could see it right away
Speaker 2: and knew that it was going to be as bad.
Speaker 1: As it actually was.
Speaker 2: But the first like real impression that I got from
Speaker 2: Kenny Payne coaching Louisville was in that exhibition game that
Speaker 2: he lost, and I thought to myself, man, these guys
Speaker 2: are a reflection of this guy's energy on the sideline,
Speaker 2: and that's not a good thing. Pat Kelsey's high energy,
Speaker 2: he's a wild man, and these guys play just like that, which.
Speaker 1: I think is a pretty good recipe, right, And that's just.
Speaker 3: You know, my person.
Speaker 5: You're right. The first thought I had after the first
Speaker 5: game was this guy's blaw. You know, maybe not a
Speaker 5: good coach, a good teacher either that it was just
Speaker 5: the law. And I just remember Denny Crume. His players
Speaker 5: played hard for forty minutes, yep.
Speaker 3: And obviously the same thing for Patino, And for life
Speaker 3: of me, I cannot remember the.
Speaker 1: Guy that oh Chris Mac you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had high his team's had energy, intensity, effort.
Speaker 3: It was all there. But then Payne shows up and
Speaker 3: we lost that yep. And I, like you, I'm excited
Speaker 3: for this new energy and.
Speaker 5: Hopefully a new era for Cardinal basketball.
Speaker 1: No doubt. Thank you for the call, Scott. I appreciate it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, Pat Kelsey, we all know that he needs
Speaker 2: to win games here and I think he will, but
Speaker 2: we'll and we'll learn this one way or the other.
Speaker 2: But I think you know, if you're struggling now again,
Speaker 2: you can't be bad, like you can't be terrible consistently.
Speaker 2: But I have a feeling that, like if the guys
Speaker 2: pulled with the same level of effort and intensity like
Speaker 2: we saw on Monday Night all year, nobody's gonna be
Speaker 2: happy with losses. But I think fans will be able
Speaker 2: to live with it, you know what I mean. Again,
Speaker 2: if you've got way more losses than wins, that that
Speaker 2: that that's a that's a tough.
Speaker 1: Thing to see.
Speaker 2: But again I'm of the belief that that that scenario
Speaker 2: is not going to play itself out, meaning where they
Speaker 2: have like a bad record if they play that hard
Speaker 2: because they've got some talent, and in fact, last year's
Speaker 2: team in the year before that, even it was a
Speaker 2: reminder that talent really means nothing if you don't have
Speaker 2: uh an identity as a team, guys aren't locked in.
Speaker 2: There's not clearly a you know, I mean, Louisville was
Speaker 2: a very unseerious type of program with Kenny just because
Speaker 2: everything about it, from top to bottom, the play on
Speaker 2: the floor and every other thing outside of the actual
Speaker 2: game action was just unserious and and and lazy. And
Speaker 2: you know that's the exact opposite. Now, I mean, Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey right now is walking around campus at U of L,
Speaker 2: just walking up to students telling them to come to
Speaker 2: the game, asking them if they're coming to the game.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in it as a compliment. He's a madman,
Speaker 2: but he's the mad man we need basketball sicko as
Speaker 2: some are referring to him as. And again, that's probably
Speaker 2: not something that many would take as a compliment. Right
Speaker 2: if you call somebody a sicico under any circumstance, I
Speaker 2: would assume they'd be insulted. But I think he knows
Speaker 2: we mean it in a heart, a very you know,
Speaker 2: wholesome way, like he's our sicco that we needed to
Speaker 2: come and save us in this. This probably won't be
Speaker 2: great for a radio show because you know, there's no
Speaker 2: visual here, but this is the Instagram post that he
Speaker 2: just put up on his Instagram. Pat Kelsey just walking
Speaker 2: around talking to the student body, trying to make sure
Speaker 2: they're well aware of the big game on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Oh man, are you coming to the game?
Speaker 5: Of course?
Speaker 1: Hey, twelve o'clock.
Speaker 6: On Saturday, Louisville, Tennessee at the YUM.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be rocking you going? Is this like a
Speaker 1: kind of commitment? Are you going freaking go?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 1: Twelve o'clock Saturday at the Yum louis Tennessee.
Speaker 6: When you go on the game, you promise tell your
Speaker 6: friends Louisville, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: You guys going, Sure, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Hey, you going the game? I will's there and.
Speaker 6: Fired up with that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your friend's going, yeah, all of them going.
Speaker 1: All my roommates, I mean, roommate, You got.
Speaker 7: The game Saturday at the Young twelve o'clock Louisville, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: You a Bengals fan? Can I get a who day?
Speaker 2: So, first of all, my first reaction when seeing this
Speaker 2: is awesome. But the second reaction is there's nobody else
Speaker 2: that has ever coached here that would ever do that,
Speaker 2: and we need that right now. And I mean, who's
Speaker 2: the most relatable coach to our fans up to this
Speaker 2: point or not touch to our fans, but to students,
Speaker 2: because you know, we're we're kind of like I've never
Speaker 2: really Louisville is Louisville basketb is the pro basketball.
Speaker 1: Team in this town.
Speaker 2: And I know there's a ton of big Kentucky fans
Speaker 2: in Kentucky's their pro team, but I just mean, like,
Speaker 2: you know, in this city, obviously UK doesn't play here.
Speaker 2: So like when I my first memories of going to
Speaker 2: games at Freedom Hall, like I don't remember seeing anybody
Speaker 2: who I thought was a college student. I saw people
Speaker 2: who were wearing sweater vests, and you know, I mean
Speaker 2: there was a there was a type, there was a
Speaker 2: demo right the the you know, when I was a
Speaker 2: young kid, somebody old enough to be maybe not my grandpa,
Speaker 2: but like between the age of my dad and my grandpa,
Speaker 2: they looked like they did well for themselves and man
Speaker 2: they had most likely the wife with them would likely
Speaker 2: be wearing a red sweater and they would stand up
Speaker 2: and scream and just go all out during Louisville games, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, the people who make this one of the
Speaker 2: most profitable basketball programs in the country aren't students. It's
Speaker 2: it's you know, because again we're not just catering to
Speaker 2: students around here. It's it's Louisville's team and both football
Speaker 2: and basketball. Again, there's no NFL, there's no NBA, So
Speaker 2: you guys get what I'm saying. But I never once
Speaker 2: really thought about, like if you had a coach who
Speaker 2: really did make it a priority to engage with the
Speaker 2: student body. And I don't mean just like, hey, talk
Speaker 2: to the student section, because Chris Mack really tried to
Speaker 2: do that, and I think he did a good job
Speaker 2: of getting the student section going whenever he was here
Speaker 2: early on. And then you know, obviously things happen and
Speaker 2: they weren't even allowed to come to games and is
Speaker 2: you know, in one of his last years here. So
Speaker 2: but but Chris's personality wise is nothing like Pat Kelsey nothing.
Speaker 1: And look, you can be good in both ways.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that like Chris is a bad guy,
Speaker 2: but like the personality is totally different. And he told
Speaker 2: me that before you know, he became official, that Pat
Speaker 2: was going to be the guy like you know, he's energy,
Speaker 2: and I mean at every turn people have mentioned that.
Speaker 2: So I think the fans aren't just going to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's cool that the coach is like, you know, he
Speaker 2: said the students are great and we should come, like
Speaker 2: it wasn't just a canned statement, It wasn't some pre
Speaker 2: recorded video. Like I think Pat will be able to
Speaker 2: connect with them differently than anybody has and that can
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, it can only help, but
Speaker 2: I think it can go a long way, like We've
Speaker 2: always lacked, you know, a real big student presence. For
Speaker 2: the most part, we haven't really needed it. But as
Speaker 2: you're trying to get things built back up to where
Speaker 2: you have big crowds on hand every every game, certainly
Speaker 2: bigger crowds for the bigger games, but if you want,
Speaker 2: you know, like, students are the ones. If they're into it, man,
Speaker 2: and they're engaged, they'll show up on a Monday against Morehead.
Speaker 1: Stay what else they got to do?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: They're they're here away at school. So I don't know.
Speaker 7: I got another interesting observation, and maybe this will make
Speaker 7: me sound stupid, but one thing I've noticed with Pat
Speaker 7: Kelsey is he the only person who constantly refers to
Speaker 7: the young center as the young, because I feel like
Speaker 7: I've never heard people say that.
Speaker 2: Well, people have certainly said it, like I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't refer to it as the young, but I've heard
Speaker 2: other people do it. But yes, to your point, he
Speaker 2: is clearly trying to like make that yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the young, And you know, I'm trying to think, like
Speaker 2: I know it's been said, but when I say the young,
Speaker 2: I think, I you know, you listen to me. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: you have to every day because you know, you're my producer.
Speaker 2: But when I say the um siner, I don't say
Speaker 2: the yum do I No, I've never I think I
Speaker 2: just say I think I just say the YOUM center.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's where most people usually look.
Speaker 2: He's trying to, you know, look, if it leads to
Speaker 2: there being more of an incentive and more of a
Speaker 2: field to like, hey, we're going it's gonna be awesome
Speaker 2: the atmosphere of the place them, then I'll embrace it.
Speaker 2: I'll get it tattooed on my face. I mean probably not,
Speaker 2: but like, let's if it works, let's let's keep it rolling.
Speaker 2: So I'm i'm, i'm, I'm I'm fired up for Saturday, man,
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm not just saying it because I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, you guys would want me to say it.
Speaker 2: In fact, I don't think you would care what I
Speaker 2: say as far as what I think is gonna happen,
Speaker 2: because again, I'm often wrong, We're all often, we're all
Speaker 2: wrong pretty often. But I think they're gonna win and
Speaker 2: it's gonna be awesome. Figures crossed that that's what actually happens.
Speaker 2: But regardless, we'll react to it on the post game show,
Speaker 2: So make sure you know if you're there and you
Speaker 2: get in your car when you leave, turn us on.
Speaker 2: If you're not there and you're watching at home, papasan
Speaker 2: as soon as it ends, and we'll react to it.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side.
Speaker 2: A few things I want to make sure we get
Speaker 2: to before we run out of time. John Caliperry. He
Speaker 2: had his debut last night at Arkansas and they won
Speaker 2: by like fourteen fifteen. But I kind of thought cal
Speaker 2: would be re energized and really just you know, a
Speaker 2: new man kind of reincarnated down there in Fayetteville, and
Speaker 2: I feel like I was way off because maybe it's
Speaker 2: just one game. But he sounds like a lunatic in
Speaker 2: his postgame press conference, like a guy that's just like
Speaker 2: not really there. We'll let you hear it and we'll
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Speaker 1: Brother. It is well done, Little Brooks and done good stuff.
Speaker 1: April twenty six of the Youum Center, by the way
Speaker 1: at them.
Speaker 2: I bet Pat Kelsey will be there. He might be,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what his music. I did ask him that.
Speaker 2: I asked him that question when he was on the
Speaker 2: show the first time, and it was now that i'm reflecting,
Speaker 2: it was kind of a corny question, but I think
Speaker 2: it was with us having so many music festivals, because
Speaker 2: I think one of the things you think of when
Speaker 2: you think of Louisville, if you're not from here, obviously
Speaker 2: think of the Derby.
Speaker 1: You think of, you.
Speaker 2: Know, basketball, Louisville Slugger, that kind of stuff probably KFC.
Speaker 2: But if you are into music festivals, I would imagine
Speaker 2: by now you know that we do we do pretty
Speaker 2: well when it comes to that kind of stuff. So
Speaker 2: I asked him, if you were putting together your own stage,
Speaker 2: the Pat Kelsey stage one of these music festivals, you
Speaker 2: could get anybody, anybody you want, which for musicians or
Speaker 2: artists would you would you choose?
Speaker 1: And he chose. I think he said Springsteen.
Speaker 2: I think he said, I know he said Zach Bryan,
Speaker 2: but I'm blanket on who else it was.
Speaker 7: You think he was there at Bourbon and beyond, you know,
Speaker 7: in the VIP section.
Speaker 2: He was probably watching film or recruiting or something of that.
Speaker 2: Although I did hear that he uh, he was supposed
Speaker 2: to go to Well, he was potentially going to go
Speaker 2: to Clemson with Josh Hurt. Apparently they ended up having
Speaker 2: room in in the charter and he decided to stick
Speaker 2: back because you know, they had their opener just a
Speaker 2: couple of days away. But he later made he called
Speaker 2: an audible and he actually went up to I believe
Speaker 2: it was Indy took his daughter to see Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: on look at that on Saturday. So I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if that if Taylor Swift would be in his his
Speaker 2: uh his on his stage in his music festival. But
Speaker 2: you know, a good dad daughter moment. I'm sure I
Speaker 2: had some friends that took their kids to of their
Speaker 2: daughters to the Taylor Swift concert and Indie and apparently,
Speaker 2: I mean again, I'm sure it's not easy to get tickets,
Speaker 2: but I'm surprised when people I know go, like Pat Kelsey,
Speaker 2: not as surprised he'd be somebody that could get access.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just feel like she's such a big artist right
Speaker 2: now that like any ticket going on sale, you're looking
Speaker 2: at paying like seven hundred and fifty bucks or something,
Speaker 2: which sounds crazy.
Speaker 1: It is crazy, but like that's that's.
Speaker 2: What the tickets go for for her concerts a lot
Speaker 2: of times something like that.
Speaker 1: And this tour that she's been on is almost over.
Speaker 1: It's been going on for us. As I say, it
Speaker 1: seems never ending. Yes, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: So anyways, John Calla Perry last night debuted at Arkansas
Speaker 2: in front of nineteen thousand fans. They won and were
Speaker 2: never really in trouble, But I don't I didn't get
Speaker 2: the sense that it looked like they played all that well.
Speaker 2: Seventy six to seven or seventy six to sixty was
Speaker 2: the score. They won the first half by nine, second half,
Speaker 2: I guess by Actually they're one of the first half
Speaker 2: by eleven, second half by by six, so I don't
Speaker 2: know if they covered, but either way it's not. It
Speaker 2: doesn't look like it was a game where they were
Speaker 2: really you know, it was in doubt. But Cal Perry
Speaker 2: afterwards he had his press conference and look, Cal for
Speaker 2: a long time has been a coach that just and
Speaker 2: it's one of the things that I think drove Kentucky
Speaker 2: fans so crazy after a while. He can do it,
Speaker 2: he can you know, Cal can be cal and say
Speaker 2: the things that he has said during his time in Lexington,
Speaker 2: and fans will just eat it up if he's winning
Speaker 2: at a high level. But when you're not winning at
Speaker 2: a high level, they become stale pretty quickly. And it
Speaker 2: became to it started to really fascinate me towards the end.
Speaker 2: Like he would I mean, he would just talk about
Speaker 2: not being able to like I haven't haven't seen my player.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I haven't talked to him, Like when
Speaker 2: he was asked about an update on a player, like
Speaker 2: he he's just kind of, you know, kind of lost
Speaker 2: his mind a little bit.
Speaker 1: Uh. But I've looked at that more as.
Speaker 2: Him being stubborn, and really, I mean, at times he
Speaker 2: used the line of doing a radio interview whenever everybody
Speaker 2: wanted to hear from after a bad loss, or showing
Speaker 2: up to press conferences and just saying whatever he wanted,
Speaker 2: an act acting like he didn't really care about the loss.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 2: That I think is arrogance, Like I thought, I think
Speaker 2: at times he wanted people to know like, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 2: like I'm the coach and I don't care that you
Speaker 2: want me to play this guy or you want me
Speaker 2: to play more modern basketball like. It was clearly a stubborn,
Speaker 2: arrogant kind of thing for him on the way out there,
Speaker 2: and I thought there was a chance and he might
Speaker 2: look Maybe this is just a bad observation on my end,
Speaker 2: but I thought the scenario where he would go to
Speaker 2: Arkansas and be really successful is he'd have to get
Speaker 2: re energized. He'd have to be motivated to win at
Speaker 2: a high level. And again, I guess what his motivation is,
Speaker 2: what gives him that motivation, It doesn't really matter. But
Speaker 2: I would have thought that the best chance would be
Speaker 2: that he just wants to show first of all, he
Speaker 2: wants to go on another deep tournament run without losing
Speaker 2: the teams like Oakland and Saint Peter's, but also Spike,
Speaker 2: he wants to win in spite of Kentucky. He maybe
Speaker 2: it isn't crazy to think that the driving force for
Speaker 2: him now is that he wants to win, not only
Speaker 2: because he's a competitor and he wants to win, but
Speaker 2: he wants to show Kentucky fans that they should have
Speaker 2: appreciated him and you know, begged him to stay instead
Speaker 2: of you know, letting him walk and being happy that
Speaker 2: he did. But the guy that I'm hearing at SEC
Speaker 2: basketball media days, the interviews that he's done, and this
Speaker 2: press conference last night, like I just think he's kind
Speaker 2: of I think he's just goofing off. I mean, I
Speaker 2: hate to say that, but like this is a montage
Speaker 2: somebody put together, and this is you know, context is
Speaker 2: not going to be there, because this is just a
Speaker 2: mix of just random things he blurted out at his
Speaker 2: press conference last night that I'm sure Kentucky fans wouldn't
Speaker 2: be surprised by because you know, they've heard it for
Speaker 2: a long time. But Arkansas fans heard their first Calipari
Speaker 2: postgame press conference last night, and you know they thought
Speaker 2: it was funny enough to create all these mixes of
Speaker 2: his different random things. He said, because you know it's not.
Speaker 1: What you get Cal.
Speaker 2: And when Rick was here and even Rick still like
Speaker 2: those guys can get away with things. And I don't
Speaker 2: mean like criminal acts, but just like they can say
Speaker 2: things that we all know is nonsense, not true. They
Speaker 2: can just blatantly lie and everybody knows it. But it's
Speaker 2: just all that's Cal being Cal, that's that's Rick being Rick.
Speaker 2: But here's one minute of John Calli Perry's best moments
Speaker 2: from his press conference. According to Corey Stewart, who covers
Speaker 2: Arkansas basketball, how about.
Speaker 6: This thought make a three? It takes me on every
Speaker 6: time we make a mistake. No, I don't. CBS is
Speaker 6: covering the gamey threes. But because a guy wants, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna start this, uh give it to Jimmy, he has
Speaker 6: to come back.
Speaker 1: No he doesn't.
Speaker 6: I have not watched that game too late. I was
Speaker 6: in bed.
Speaker 1: What why would you do that? And as you get
Speaker 1: older it really.
Speaker 6: So they called a time out so you have no
Speaker 6: questions now that.
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for he stopped talking. What gold block
Speaker 1: that Ball.
Speaker 6: How about that statement, I mean.
Speaker 2: The visual I mean again, and just for those that
Speaker 2: just turned on the show and you heard just random
Speaker 2: things Cali Perre's yelling again, those are just that's just
Speaker 2: there's no context to what he's saying. Those are just
Speaker 2: all individual things that he just said. That again, sound
Speaker 2: pretty normal because I'm used to hearing Cali Perry around here.
Speaker 2: But for Arkansas, especially those in the media, that might
Speaker 2: have been an experience they weren't really expecting. So maybe
Speaker 2: it's it's just him being him. But him being him
Speaker 2: hadn't worked. Man, he still plays the same way like
Speaker 2: he had. You know, he still wanted to play old
Speaker 2: school bigs. He doesn't want to space it out.
Speaker 1: He does.
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that he didn't play Dillingham, Shepard
Speaker 2: and Reeves last year together. I mean that stupidity, stubbornness,
Speaker 2: and I mean malpractice. If you're a Kentucky fan, I'm
Speaker 2: sure is what you're thinking. But I mean, I think
Speaker 2: he's going to do the same things he's always done
Speaker 2: and expect it to be different, and it won't be.
Speaker 2: He won't be terrible at Arkansas, but I just get
Speaker 2: a feeling that he'll be fine. There, but he won't
Speaker 2: be as energized because as much as it pains me
Speaker 2: to say it, you know it's the truth.
Speaker 1: So it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Like Kentucky's the best job in college basketball, and he
Speaker 2: had that, didn't really appreciate it, didn't really realize, Hey,
Speaker 2: I should make adjustments. I should adapt to the game changing.
Speaker 2: I should evolve because I have the best job in
Speaker 2: the country, a job that nobody else would would would
Speaker 2: pay me this much money to do. And instead of like,
Speaker 2: you know, buckling down, getting creative again, maybe reinventing yourself
Speaker 2: a little bit like Nick Saban did in football, Like
Speaker 2: he didn't do that. And I don't know if he'll
Speaker 2: ever regret it, because he doesn't seem like somebody who
Speaker 2: would ever regret or think he was wrong. He's very stubborn.
Speaker 2: But I'd say there's a better chance that he ends
Speaker 2: up kind of just being above average there, and that's
Speaker 2: the ceiling, the scenario where they're like really bad. I
Speaker 2: doubt it because that would be uncharacteristic of him as
Speaker 2: a coach. And he's still going to bring in talent,
Speaker 2: Like he's still going to have good players, but I
Speaker 2: think they'll continue to have head scratching losses at times
Speaker 2: because they're mostly built on youth. And I also think
Speaker 2: that you know, they'll be easy to pick off in
Speaker 2: the tournament, depending on the matchup.
Speaker 7: I hope there's more of this, by the way, more
Speaker 7: of his weird sound bites throughout the season.
Speaker 2: Who do you think has a better chance of making
Speaker 2: a Final four in the next five years? John Caliperry
Speaker 2: misses at Arkansas or Rick Patino at Saint John's.
Speaker 7: Oh, that's a really I'm gonna say cali Perry just
Speaker 7: because he probably has a lot better resources. And yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't think, I mean not that Rick Patino can't,
Speaker 7: but it wouldn't surprise.
Speaker 1: It'd be less surprising to say that.
Speaker 2: I would agree, But I would say, you know, if
Speaker 2: I had to guess, do either of them or one
Speaker 2: of them, like, I would say, it's more unlikely that
Speaker 2: either of them make a final for than they do
Speaker 2: make a final for in their time there, however long
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 7: Here's another question, who you think retires first.
Speaker 2: Cal Rick is older, and Rick does seem to enjoy
Speaker 2: other things in life that he didn't used to seem
Speaker 2: to enjoy, Like you know, he's still very much, you know,
Speaker 2: a coach, and I don't think he ever wants to
Speaker 2: just stop doing it, but there may be a point
Speaker 2: where Rick, like I could see Rick now It's well
Speaker 2: maybe not now, but like I could now see a
Speaker 2: side of Rick that makes me believe he would leave
Speaker 2: coaching to do broadcasting because he would still be involved
Speaker 2: in basketball, if that makes sense. And you know, he's
Speaker 2: very much a me guy. So him just kind of
Speaker 2: fading into retirement. I don't ever see happening, but part
Speaker 2: of me says he'll he'll either coach until he's simply
Speaker 2: physics can anymore, or he won't. He won't be having
Speaker 2: fun because he's not winning, and then he just decides
Speaker 2: to become an announcer broadcaster and anybody would hire him,
Speaker 2: and I think he'd be good at it, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I mean, clearly, the man's got away
Speaker 2: with words. We've all learned that over the years aroundhim.
Speaker 7: I want to Patino, Tom Crean, Playboy play and you
Speaker 7: know whatever the color commentary. That probably be really insane,
Speaker 7: but uh, it'd be fun to listen to for at
Speaker 7: least a few minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think rarely the coaches go into
Speaker 2: the go straight to broadcasting and and you know, seemed
Speaker 2: Tom Crean is great at it. I don't know why
Speaker 2: he's not like on the A list for ESPN. Maybe
Speaker 2: he's still keeping his options open and wants to make
Speaker 2: it clear that he will come back and coach if
Speaker 2: he was presented a good job.
Speaker 1: But Krean's great at it.
Speaker 2: Rick would be good as far as the analysis, But
Speaker 2: Rick's somebody like like if put it this way, Saban
Speaker 2: is great when it comes to analysis and talking football
Speaker 2: on game day. I think he would need to ramp
Speaker 2: up the energy level to be on a broadcast. And
Speaker 2: I think you could say the same thing about Rick.
Speaker 2: So that makes sense, like you don't need to be animated,
Speaker 2: but like you know, you're you're not just just saying
Speaker 2: what you're seeing.
Speaker 1: And and like Bob Knight on, you're like you are,
Speaker 1: you're you.
Speaker 2: Are, You're delivering like there's Again, that's one of those
Speaker 2: things that a lot of people don't realize. It's not
Speaker 2: difficult to talk like that. I mean, it's not like,
Speaker 2: you know, the the people who think they could just
Speaker 2: come in and host a three hour show and it
Speaker 2: would be cake. Some of them may be right, but
Speaker 2: it's really about like delivery, how you say things. I mean,
Speaker 2: stretching segments out and whatnot. So again delivery. And look,
Speaker 2: they could be coached up on it. I mean maybe
Speaker 2: they could.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how coachable coaches are. But like Sabin,
Speaker 2: eventually I want to hear him on on a game,
Speaker 2: like in a game, because I think he point out
Speaker 2: things that none of us would know. But one he
Speaker 2: probably doesn't want to do that, but again, you got,
Speaker 2: you gotta you got. For example, Lou Riddick, he went
Speaker 2: from being just an analyst and he's always been great
Speaker 2: at it, and then he went to being a color guy.
Speaker 2: And initially he was providing good analysis, but the broadcast
Speaker 2: sounded flat because he wasn't used to that. That wasn't
Speaker 2: Typically he would join a show for a segment, not
Speaker 2: do a game, but this in the last couple of games, specifically,
Speaker 2: like I think le Ritick's killing it as an announcer.
Speaker 2: So it takes a little time, but yeah, it could
Speaker 2: be good at it.
Speaker 1: Jay Williams games here, he too long. He did a
Speaker 1: game the other night, did he now?
Speaker 2: Jay Williams was on the Gonzaga and they put him
Speaker 2: on that Baylor game. Wow, yeah, huge game. Well it's
Speaker 2: football season, so you know it's a big game for
Speaker 2: those who love college hoops. But you know, ESPN's not
Speaker 2: necessarily prioritizing the product just yet. But yeah, he's he's
Speaker 2: he's not the best. Did you see the score of
Speaker 2: that game.
Speaker 1: I know Baylor got spanked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think Baylor is still going to
Speaker 2: be really good this year, but man, to see the
Speaker 2: way they lost one oh one to sixty three unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And I look Baylor, I said before the season started,
Speaker 2: I actually think that they're underrated despite being ranked number
Speaker 2: eight before they got killed. And maybe I end up
Speaker 2: being way wrong. But when it comes to talent, I mean,
Speaker 2: Mark Few, he's got some real good players that team.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side.
Speaker 2: We haven't let you hear it yet. But there is
Speaker 2: a scenario that I can't think of his name, Chris,
Speaker 2: maybe Chris. I'll get his name Corret because I want
Speaker 2: to give him proper credit. He put out something a
Speaker 2: scenario that is not likely, but it also isn't that
Speaker 2: crazy to where a Big twelve team could miss the playoff.
Speaker 2: We'll let him explain it, because again, he did a
Speaker 2: pretty good job at it. That's on the other side.
Speaker 2: As we wrap this thing up, don't go anywhere. It's
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Speaker 2: ninety all right, Dennis Texan and says Nick, what would
Speaker 2: it say about Kenny Payne if in the second week
Speaker 2: of the season in his first year, Pat Kelsey has
Speaker 2: Louisville ranked in the top twenty five with a top
Speaker 2: twelve win. I mean, I would assume if a top
Speaker 2: twelve team loses that whoever beat them, if they were,
Speaker 2: you know, sniffing the rankings, they would probably climb into
Speaker 2: the top twenty five. I mean, it's so silly, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's tough to know how good anybody is
Speaker 2: this early in the year, especially in this new world
Speaker 2: of the portal. But hell, if they ended up being
Speaker 2: ranked after beating Tennessee, I mean I'd be talking about it.
Speaker 2: I would be happy about it. I mean, it would
Speaker 2: be a good early sign, no doubt. But yes, it
Speaker 2: would say a lot about Kenny. But it would also
Speaker 2: say more I think about the ability you have to
Speaker 2: quickly turn something around in the new world with the
Speaker 2: portal and nil, and yeah, I think, I mean, they
Speaker 2: got some votes preseason, but not a lot. So a
Speaker 2: win against the number twelve team I think would probably
Speaker 2: will probably jump the jump them up there. But we'll
Speaker 2: find out if they win, and again I think they
Speaker 2: will all right, real quick, this is a clip from
Speaker 2: one of the college football podcasts that I listened to,
Speaker 2: and I get a couple of them mixed up. But
Speaker 2: this is Chris Asel who or Hassle, I'm sorry. He
Speaker 2: works for CBS Sports, and he laid out a scenario that, again,
Speaker 2: it is unlikely, but I don't think it's like troll
Speaker 2: clickbait either, because it's not an insane scenario. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe some people view it as insane, but he threw
Speaker 2: out a situation that could lead to the Big Twelve
Speaker 2: getting left out of the College Football Playoff altogether. Again
Speaker 2: a long shot, but here's what would need to happen
Speaker 2: for that scenario to play out.
Speaker 8: Here's another possibility that I don't think anyone's thought about,
Speaker 8: and this is a very very unlikely scenario, but there
Speaker 8: is a scenario where the Big Twelve champion doesn't even
Speaker 8: make the College Football Playoff. Here it is Army is
Speaker 8: eight to zero, They have Notre Dame on their schedule,
Speaker 8: they have Navy on their schedule, and then an American
Speaker 8: Conference championship game. If they win every game and they're
Speaker 8: perfect with a win over Notre Dame on their resume,
Speaker 8: Army might be a higher ranked American Conference champion than
Speaker 8: Iowa State and Boise could be a higher ranked Mountain
Speaker 8: West champion than Iowa State. Only the five highest ranked
Speaker 8: conference champs are guaranteed a playoff spot, So if you're
Speaker 8: an Iowa State fan, you should root against Army.
Speaker 3: Army.
Speaker 8: Look, if Army goes thirteen to zero with a win
Speaker 8: over Notre Dame, they are going to be in the playoff.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So BYU is the Big twelve team that right now
Speaker 2: clearly is in the driver's seat of that league. So
Speaker 2: that wasn't mentioned in that specific clip, but it does
Speaker 2: later come up because obviously they would need to lose.
Speaker 2: But I think BYU, I mean again, they're in a
Speaker 2: pretty good spot right now, but I think the committee
Speaker 2: basically said with where they're ranked, if they lose there,
Speaker 2: they're dropping pretty far because they don't have any opportunities
Speaker 2: left to get big wins, and any loss that they
Speaker 2: could get wouldn't be looked at as like a quality loss.
Speaker 2: So again it's unlikely, but I kind of want the chaos.
Speaker 2: And I mean, how if it comes down to a
Speaker 2: scenario where you're really having to choose between two teams,
Speaker 2: maybe three, and one of them is an undefeated army,
Speaker 2: you know, the United States military, Like they're not leaving
Speaker 2: them out, not at all. And you know what, the
Speaker 2: guy who was just voted president, he has any say
Speaker 2: so at that time, I don't think you would given
Speaker 2: the timeline, but like, you know, Trump would make a
Speaker 2: deal about that, would he not?
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