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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. This is

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<v Speaker 1>twelve ten am on Monday, July sixth. All four starting

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<v Speaker 1>flights for the twenty twenty six World Series of Poker

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<v Speaker 1>Main Event are done and dusted. That's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>I think all we'll talk about today. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>play tomorrow, guys. I want to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>a decent amount of sleep. But we're going to hit

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<v Speaker 1>on what was, as expected, the largest starting flight for

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<v Speaker 1>the WSP Main Event. The numbers are in through the

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<v Speaker 1>first four starting flights. Of course, we still have Day

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<v Speaker 1>two registration on both Day to ABC and Day two

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<v Speaker 1>D to come, so don't know the final number just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of big names were in the mix. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about it. There was a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>as well. If you're playing PLO this summer, allow me

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<v Speaker 1>the world. That's just about a week left, or exactly

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<v Speaker 1>a week left when you guys are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>July fourteenth. Don't miss it, because then things go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the regular crisis. The final starting flight for the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six WSP Main Event attracted four thousand, six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety four entries. Yes, that is down. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a decrease of six point one percent from last year's

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<v Speaker 1>Day one d but a bit better than I think

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<v Speaker 1>probably a lot of people expected for this final flight,

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<v Speaker 1>even myself, you know, I thought this would come in

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<v Speaker 1>around between forty three and forty four hundred. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looking at where some of the trends were

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<v Speaker 1>so far. But things performed pretty pretty well overall. We're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at eight thousand and seventy seven entries before we

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<v Speaker 1>tally any of the Day two late entries, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is down seven point one percent from last year. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>at this point we were at eight thousand, six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety four. I have been talking about what I

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<v Speaker 1>think is going to be happening for the day two

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<v Speaker 1>late entries. I still think we're gonna get around one thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say nine hundred to one thousand is my final guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we do that, the number goes back up

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<v Speaker 1>over nine thousand, and it's it's you know, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's certainly plenty fine. A lot of stuff is been down.

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<v Speaker 1>Some stuff has been up, of course, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff has been down throughout the summer. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a crazy wild world out there where things

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<v Speaker 1>are expensive, people have less money. Bitcoin is down, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they got the ninety percent tax law, like

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<v Speaker 1>you got all this sort of stuff that's just going

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<v Speaker 1>against poker right now. But still being able to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>what I think is going to be right around nine thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a little bit more than nine thousand entries for

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<v Speaker 1>the WSP made event in this current climate, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is a very very big win for the World Series

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<v Speaker 1>of Poker, and I am looking forward to next year

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<v Speaker 1>because when you make this big push to build a

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<v Speaker 1>new stage like they did, bring the streaming to ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what sort of effect is that going to have?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just ESPN because yes, it's ESPN in

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<v Speaker 1>the the US, or the ESPN platform, I should say

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<v Speaker 1>in the US, because it's split between the app slash

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<v Speaker 1>plus and then also it'll be on ESPN and ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>two for the final table. But there's there's some international

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<v Speaker 1>deals as well. So you know, the US stuff, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of US, a lot of the listeners out

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<v Speaker 1>there see because we are you know, in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>we're American, et cetera. But there's a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>going on around the rest of the world too. To

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<v Speaker 1>beef up the distribution. That's not gonna be something that

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<v Speaker 1>really pays any sort of dividends this year. It's if

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<v Speaker 1>enough people see it, there's enough eyeballs on it, people

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<v Speaker 1>get excited about it. They say, that's awesome. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot about poker. Maybe this reignites some sort of fire

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<v Speaker 1>inside me to get back out there and fire this.

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<v Speaker 1>And then next year is when you see the bump

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<v Speaker 1>plus maybe you know, maybe Bitcoin goes back up and

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<v Speaker 1>other crypto maybe you know, the economy is just doing

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better. All that sort of stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have we'd have a year, right, so that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time for things to to turn the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I mean they could go the other way, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I generally like to be positive about things in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. So you know, we gotta we gotta got

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<v Speaker 1>a new highst hit next year. Of course, within the

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<v Speaker 1>first thirty minutes of day one, as reported by Poker News,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Lander was eliminated from the tournament in a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>crazy fashion, bluffing it off with six high So listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this hand. This is this is again, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is as reported by Poker News, but it does

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<v Speaker 1>come from with the table reported two Poker News Under

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<v Speaker 1>the gun you had Nicholas by Sirius. Believe I said

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<v Speaker 1>that name correctly. He raised a five hundred again the

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<v Speaker 1>first level in his minimum is one hundred, two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>with the sixty k starting stack. Action folded all the

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<v Speaker 1>way around to Brian Bonacor in the small blind. He

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<v Speaker 1>made the call, and then Lander Patrick Lander was in

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<v Speaker 1>the big blind. He three bet to fifteen hundred. Both

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<v Speaker 1>players call it comes nine to eighty four. Small blind

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<v Speaker 1>checks Lander out of the big blind bets two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>which is right around forty percent pot. Both players call

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<v Speaker 1>turn is an ace, small Blind checks again. Lander comes

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<v Speaker 1>with the same bet two k, so now this time

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<v Speaker 1>he's betting around twenty percent pot, one fifth of the pot.

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<v Speaker 1>The original razor from under the gun VI Sierras He folds,

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<v Speaker 1>but then the small blind bon Acorp he checked raises

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<v Speaker 1>to seven k. Lander decides to make the call, having

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<v Speaker 1>position on his opponent, River is a King. Bonacor bets

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand, which is fifty percent pot, and Lander goes

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<v Speaker 1>all in for what the table said was around forty

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand. After a little bit of a tank, Bonacort

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<v Speaker 1>called with pocket eights for a set of eights. He

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<v Speaker 1>flopped a set of eights on the nine to eighty

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<v Speaker 1>four flop. Lander had six five six five six high

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<v Speaker 1>and was sent out the door. Now, listen, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>an easy call with the eights, So I think you

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<v Speaker 1>got to tip your cap to Bonacor here, because listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recognize these players in the hand. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>forgive me if I'm just you know, not recognizing them.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's just what I'm getting at is, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that these players probably knew who each other were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not like you're sitting down You're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Alex Fox and he can have X y

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<v Speaker 1>Z hands. You know, he can kind of be out

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<v Speaker 1>there doing something. I mean, when you have what you

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<v Speaker 1>might think is an unknown player, you don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>player and they're just going all in within the first

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<v Speaker 1>half hour of the WSP Maine event, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have some sort of giant sirens just booming

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<v Speaker 1>in your head, being like what the heck is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>So you're sitting there with a set of eight. It's

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<v Speaker 1>when listen, this guy could certainly have aces here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>three bet pre flop, bets the flop, BET's the turn

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<v Speaker 1>and betting the turn really small. If he were to

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<v Speaker 1>have aces here. When he makes a set of aces

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<v Speaker 1>and then he gets check raised, he just flats to

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<v Speaker 1>keep all your opponents' hands in, gets a clean river card,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just goes bombs away. You know, like that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense to me, right, I mean, kings maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little less, so you know probably, I mean, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>bet the turn like this and then you call a

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<v Speaker 1>check raise. I don't know, maybe you want to splash

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<v Speaker 1>around a little bit nine. I could possibly being there

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<v Speaker 1>if he wants to get aggressive pre flop, probably more

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<v Speaker 1>of it just a call, but you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's certainly likely that this player could have aces. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Patrick Lander was up to for

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the twenty twenty five minutes or however

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<v Speaker 1>long he was there first. Maybe he's just blasting off

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's like, you know, this guy's just he's going off.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to call him down. But still it did

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<v Speaker 1>say that Bonacor did tank call with the eights, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, you got to tap the table, tip

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<v Speaker 1>your cap to Bonicor there for making the call there

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<v Speaker 1>and Lander, I mean, I mean, the guy just freaking

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<v Speaker 1>went for it. He was six high. But he's out

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<v Speaker 1>of the tournament. So that's that. You always just see

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<v Speaker 1>these wild hands in the Level one of the WSP

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<v Speaker 1>main event. It's just it's crazy out there, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>really is. I mean, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's the biggest and the best and the

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<v Speaker 1>most prestigious tournament in the world, and one that it's

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<v Speaker 1>on every poker player's bucket list. Everyone wants to try

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<v Speaker 1>extra hard. Everyone's you know, a little bit more kind

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<v Speaker 1>of buttoned up in a lot of spots. Not everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know a lot of people and some other

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<v Speaker 1>people are just out there. They just take it to

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite extreme right. They either just kind of treat

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<v Speaker 1>it like they would any other tournament and just go

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<v Speaker 1>for it in spots when they want to, or they're

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<v Speaker 1>just there to just gamble up, try and run up

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<v Speaker 1>a huge stack and just steamroll this whole thing from

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<v Speaker 1>start to finish. And that's what leads to some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>crazy hands early on. And of course with all eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>all media, you know, focused on the WSP main events,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this sort of stuff that happens in the

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<v Speaker 1>early levels, it really does come to light with that

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<v Speaker 1>increased spotlight on it. So we said goodbye to Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Lander early on with the six High Bluff and just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wild stuff there. Plenty of big names were

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<v Speaker 1>in the field for Day one d You had Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>mcgrano made it down to Paris. He played on the

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<v Speaker 1>feature table all day long, well I shouldn't say all

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<v Speaker 1>day from level I think three all the way till

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Nick Schulman was in the mix. You had

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<v Speaker 1>both the Fox and Kristin Fox and Alex Foxen were

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<v Speaker 1>out there, Martin Cabrell was in there, Victor Blom, Darren Elias,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Lnglan, Ryan Race, Benny Glausser, Anthony Zen, Oshan deeb,

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Tilly, Phil Locke was out there, Greg Mueller, Joe Hasham,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Tamayo, Jeremy Becker, Dylan Wiseman, Joey Weissman, Christian Harder

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<v Speaker 1>and then rampage Ethan Rampagey how they were all in

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<v Speaker 1>the mix. Don't really know how. Too many of them

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<v Speaker 1>bagged up chips. I do know that Jennifer Tilly bagged

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<v Speaker 1>around thirty thousand. I know that Daniel legrand New bagged chips.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see what his number was. It wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the app just yet, but I know they finished up

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<v Speaker 1>their hand up on the main feature table. He did

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<v Speaker 1>the phil ivey, he walked off and did a walk

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<v Speaker 1>off interview they like. Jeff Platt met him, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty feet from the table in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>main stage area and they walked off and filmed an

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<v Speaker 1>exit interview or a day end interview. I shouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>EXE because he didn't bust the tournament. Daniel but a

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<v Speaker 1>day's end interview, you know all they will they walked

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<v Speaker 1>out of the room and then somebody else, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>floor staff or whoever bags Daniel's chips up on the

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<v Speaker 1>feature table. Another player that was in the mix, Paul, Missrocky.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys know a lot about the Miss

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<v Speaker 1>Rocky brothers. Well, this is a Miss Rocky son. Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Msrocky is Michael the Grinder, Miss Rocky's son. He played

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<v Speaker 1>I think his first like big major tournament in December

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<v Speaker 1>when he had turned twenty one at WSP Paradise And

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<v Speaker 1>here he is playing his first WSP main event. And

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<v Speaker 1>guess how many chips this guy backed? One hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven, two under, more than three times the starting

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<v Speaker 1>stack in true Miss Rocky fashion. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading through. There's an article about it on on pokernews

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and shout out to Poker News. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been referencing them a lot throughout the summer. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing a lot of hard work out there, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of articles, a lot of good stuff. With the

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<v Speaker 1>live reporting. It's always good to have, Yes, it's great

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<v Speaker 1>to have the streams and the coverage that way, but

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<v Speaker 1>then also, you know to have written in other media

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<v Speaker 1>going out as well. It's just if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>consume it all and be a total nerd about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to consume it all, right. But ms Rocky

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of joking like did I get lucky today

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, how did I play or whatever to

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<v Speaker 1>his table, and his table said, no, you grinded. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it sounds like he grinded it out. But

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<v Speaker 1>we got at new miss Rocky here, Paul ms Rocky,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Mrocky's son bagging more than three times the starting stack.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Jennifer Tilly and how she bagged around thirty thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was just shy of thirty thousand, so

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<v Speaker 1>just shy of half of a starting stack. She hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been playing that Visit to be Man event for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you guys are gonna have to bear with

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<v Speaker 1>us on the audio here because we shot it for

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<v Speaker 1>a video. But we're gonna use the audio here because

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to hear from Gentilly. You know why

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<v Speaker 1>she's been not able to play the w C MANI

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<v Speaker 1>for a few years. She talks about her love for poker,

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<v Speaker 1>mentions you know, her boyfriend Phil Locke and you know

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<v Speaker 1>him playing and you know all different kinds of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>from Jennifer Tilly. Ka did this interview, So here's from

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Tilly. This was before she bagged on the day.

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<v Speaker 1>So on one of the breaks leading towards the end of.

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<v Speaker 2>The day, Jennifer, where have you been all these years

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<v Speaker 2>in the main?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I am so happy. It's been six years since

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<v Speaker 3>I've played the main for Suicid Pandemic, remember the Pandemic,

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<v Speaker 3>then three seasons of Chucking, which we filmed in the summer,

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<v Speaker 3>two seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the Real House. It's the Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is my first main event tournament in a

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<v Speaker 3>very long time. So it's fun. I'm a little rusty

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<v Speaker 3>and tournament play like I played high sakes poker. Those

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<v Speaker 3>guys play like crazy pants. They're like billionaires. They lose

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred thousand dollars and then they laugh and they

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<v Speaker 3>show you that they have three seven off suit. So

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<v Speaker 3>these people you so when they raise you, they have something.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm learning how to adjust to how real people play.

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<v Speaker 3>But my big goal is the lasted at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the day, because it'd be a gloomy time in

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<v Speaker 3>the old Tilly Philly household tomorrow. If Phil is still

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<v Speaker 3>in the tournament and I'm not, so I think I

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<v Speaker 3>can hold on to my chips, just not do anything

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<v Speaker 3>crazy and rash.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been at the World Chairs of bog before many years. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>the lore of the main event is huge. You have

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<v Speaker 4>a bracelet, but you don't have a deep run in

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<v Speaker 2>So talk to me about what this tournament means to

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<v Speaker 2>you and what that would mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I have never gotten past the second day. I think

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<v Speaker 3>once I made it to the second day, and all

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<v Speaker 3>the other days I just didn't even get past the

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<v Speaker 3>first day. It would be so amazing to do a

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<v Speaker 3>deep run. I mean, and a lot of people dream

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<v Speaker 3>about making the final table. I dream of them saying

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<v Speaker 3>the bubble has burst and I'm there cheering along with

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else. So you know, hopefully that'll happen. But anything

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<v Speaker 3>can happen. This is the great thing about tournaments. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of times you say the cream rises to

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<v Speaker 3>the top. Sometimes you'll see some really top players at

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<v Speaker 3>the final table, but more often you see, like Joe

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<v Speaker 3>from Ohio, a guy with the dream like I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 3>next to lady that has like a farm. She's like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I left the cows for a couple of days to

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<v Speaker 3>come play poker. That's the greatest thing about this. Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>comes from all over, everyone has the same dream, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's legendary. I know there's other tournaments to have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot bigger buy in, like two hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>buy in, and obviously the Poker Players Championship is very

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<v Speaker 3>presty just but I just love this. I love what

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<v Speaker 3>it represents. I love that we have Norman, Chad and

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<v Speaker 3>Lon mcghernan back. I've got the ESPN broadcasting it because

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<v Speaker 3>I cut my teeth. I'm watching the World Series of

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<v Speaker 3>Poker live, not live, but on TV before I actually

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<v Speaker 3>came out here and played it myself. So this is

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<v Speaker 3>where legends are made.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent agreed.

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<v Speaker 4>The cash games, though, have gotten so much traction. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>whenever you play, it goes crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And what I found super interesting is that your fans,

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<v Speaker 4>they know you from your.

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<v Speaker 2>Acting career, and then every now and then.

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<v Speaker 4>You throw on a poker clip or something about poker,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's so fascinating to see their response.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, what is it like to you to show them

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<v Speaker 2>this part of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, it's so interesting because well, I say,

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<v Speaker 3>before Housewives, usually before Housewives, seven out of ten people

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<v Speaker 3>knew me from Bride of Chucky and three out of

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<v Speaker 3>ten people knew me from poker. So now most people

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<v Speaker 3>know me from Housewives. It's I don't know, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>huge show all around the world. But I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 3>when people say that they like watching me in poker,

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<v Speaker 3>and I always get a little like cringe, Like they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I was watching on TV last night. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>were you watching when I one hundred thousand dollars? You're

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<v Speaker 3>watching me handra I lost one hundred thousand dollars Because

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<v Speaker 3>on any given day, you're a terrible poker player or

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<v Speaker 3>you're a brilliant poker player, and the swings on those

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<v Speaker 3>games are insane. But the girls, like for example, in

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<v Speaker 3>Real Housewives and Beverly Hills, they get super excited. You're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I want ten thousand dollars last night, and you're like

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, ten thousand dollars, what are you gonna buy?

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<v Speaker 3>And to me, it's like that's such a baby pot.

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<v Speaker 3>So it is fun, you know, to have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things that I'm interested in and have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things that I love to do. But I was

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<v Speaker 3>saying to Phill the end day philed my boyfriend Phil

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<v Speaker 3>Lock in the UNI Bomber, we're really getting back into

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to We used to follow the tournament circuit and

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<v Speaker 3>it's really fun. And then one day we decided like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're old stirs. We can't be tramping around but we're

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<v Speaker 3>all chasing these elusive stats. But now we've got like

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<v Speaker 3>renewed vigor and we were even thinking that maybe next

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<v Speaker 3>year we're just gonna go around to some of these

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<v Speaker 3>exotic places and you know, compete, compete with Ill.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Why not? Final question? Poker has been a

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<v Speaker 2>consulant in your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>What does the game mean to you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I love about poker is it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>really a microcosm of life. Like this morning, I woke

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<v Speaker 3>up with dread, like, what terrible thing is gonna happen

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day. I mean, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be happier. I'm gonna be not happy. But it's it

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<v Speaker 3>is like life. You have these extreme emotions and it's

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<v Speaker 3>so much like I used to be haunted by, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know the thing a lady went through the intersection,

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<v Speaker 3>got broadsided by the carl. You know, you think I

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<v Speaker 3>would think what if she left house a little lad,

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<v Speaker 3>what if she left the house a little earlier. I

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<v Speaker 3>always feel like when poker, we're always like, what if

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<v Speaker 3>I check raised on the turn? Or what if I

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't played that hand, or what if I played it

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit differently? Would I still be in the tournament?

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<v Speaker 3>And you have a lot of self incriminations and ruminations,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're always exploring your soul, like did I

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<v Speaker 3>just tilt off those chips? Was a like a really

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<v Speaker 3>good bluff that just didn't work. I'm very kind to

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<v Speaker 3>myself because I feel like I make the best decisions

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<v Speaker 3>given the information that I have. And you know, it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>how was I to know the guy I had quads?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you don't know these things. And the thing

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<v Speaker 3>with people who are professional poker players or even amateur

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<v Speaker 3>poker players, they tend to beat themselves up a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reason why this is such a great game,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a game of incomplete information, and the luck factor

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<v Speaker 3>really throws her mention to think, isn't it, Philahelm, You said,

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<v Speaker 3>if for luck, I'd win every time. But that's why

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<v Speaker 3>we have all the amateur players from all over the

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<v Speaker 3>world coming and chasing their dream because they've had themmen,

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<v Speaker 3>this amount of luck in their poker league, get home,

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<v Speaker 3>and they really want to come and try their luck

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<v Speaker 3>with the best. I think, you know, obviously, when Chris

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<v Speaker 3>Moneymaker won against Sammy Fara, a seasoned gambler with an

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<v Speaker 3>insane bluff, I think that that really inspired everybody. Everyone

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<v Speaker 3>could be a poker champion. Yeah, everybody can. Why not me?

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<v Speaker 1>Good stuff there from Jennifer Tilly. Interesting to hear how

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<v Speaker 1>she's kind of feeling like she has to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how tournament players play, and specifically in the dobas v

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<v Speaker 1>min event play in a contrast to how players play

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<v Speaker 1>in the cash games, you know, high stakes poker, no gamble,

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<v Speaker 1>no future, all the big stuff, Poker Stars, big game,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that Jennifer Tilly plays on. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more just like a rich home game. People are

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<v Speaker 1>splashing around, they're in there with you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>really wide ranges, they're doing kind of wild stuff. They're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to gamble a bit more in a tournament, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the w P Man event, it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like that out there. I mean, maybe once in a

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<v Speaker 1>while you get that absolute unicorn of a table draw

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<v Speaker 1>where there are people all splashing around. It is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just a cash game atmosphere. But for the

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, you know, people are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>much more buttoned up with everything. They play a bit

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<v Speaker 1>closer to the vest. And you also get a wider variety,

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<v Speaker 1>a wider range of all types of players. You get

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<v Speaker 1>people that are in on satellites and that could be

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<v Speaker 1>smaller buyings to free roles to whatever. You get rich

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<v Speaker 1>people that are in there. You get grinders that are

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you get all this sort of stuff where

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit more confined the player type. When

417
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<v Speaker 1>you know gentility is going to play let's say a

418
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<v Speaker 1>high six poker for example. And by the way, you

419
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<v Speaker 1>can catch her on season sixteen available.

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<v Speaker 2>Now on a Poker go.

421
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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, it was just interesting to hear from her

422
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<v Speaker 1>how she you know, she's got to kind of change

423
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<v Speaker 1>up her game and kind of refigure things out. You know,

424
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<v Speaker 1>Jenn's played a lot of poker in her life to yeah,

425
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<v Speaker 1>here she is backgrinding and both her and Phil Locke

426
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<v Speaker 1>did advance to Day two. As long as the app

427
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<v Speaker 1>is correct, I think Phil lock bagged around seventy seven thousand,

428
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<v Speaker 1>and then I mentioned Tilly bagged around thirty thousand. Another

429
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<v Speaker 1>player to bag chips and some of you listeners out

430
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<v Speaker 1>there may know this name and also have heard his voice,

431
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<v Speaker 1>Ben Ludlow. Ben Ludlow good friend of mine, friend of

432
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<v Speaker 1>the pod, but also co host of the Poker News podcast.

433
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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to Ben because he was stuck

434
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<v Speaker 1>up on the feature table, the main feature table for

435
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<v Speaker 1>three levels today, because he had a starting table that

436
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<v Speaker 1>belonged to the one Daniel mcgroney. Ben battled with Daniel

437
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<v Speaker 1>in a few pots, some early on offstream, then a

438
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<v Speaker 1>couple on stream. I just wanted to get the lay

439
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<v Speaker 1>of the land, you know, see how his day went.

440
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<v Speaker 1>What was it like playing on the feature on day one?

441
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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's interesting especially for people who

442
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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're nervous, maybe you're coming out and you're you're

443
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<v Speaker 1>planning to play the main event, and you're like, oh, man,

444
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<v Speaker 1>like what if they put me on a feature What

445
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<v Speaker 1>if I get a table draw with one or two

446
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<v Speaker 1>big names, or I draw like like bended here with

447
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<v Speaker 1>with Daniel. You know, am I am I gonna be

448
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<v Speaker 1>nervous going up there? You know, how's it gonna be? Yeah.

449
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<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of times you see people kind

450
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<v Speaker 1>of go one of two ways when they get to

451
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<v Speaker 1>a stream table. One is that they get really tight

452
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<v Speaker 1>and conservative because they're overly cautious and they don't want

453
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<v Speaker 1>to make mistakes. On the other side, you get people

454
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<v Speaker 1>that their ego really comes out and they start going

455
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<v Speaker 1>from confident to cocky. And once you do that, that's

456
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<v Speaker 1>bad news. And you're trying to pull off big bluffs

457
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<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to you know, make a show out

458
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<v Speaker 1>of a hand or whatever it may be, and that

459
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<v Speaker 1>can also you know, backfire against you. And you know

460
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<v Speaker 1>that's why they say. You know, a lot of the

461
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the pros or experienced players who have

462
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<v Speaker 1>have you know a lot of hours out there playing

463
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<v Speaker 1>under the bright light. It's with the cameras on, you know,

464
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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff. They can take advantage of

465
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<v Speaker 1>tables like that because they're just used to that, right.

466
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<v Speaker 1>But Ben got the play up there for I think

467
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<v Speaker 1>it was six hours today, three full levels. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>hear from Ben Ludload, now co host of the Poker

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<v Speaker 1>News podcast. You played on the feature table, the main

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<v Speaker 1>feature table with Dane on the Grand Nude pretty much

471
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<v Speaker 1>all day on day one. How was that experience. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you had to do anything differently, you know,

473
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<v Speaker 1>bright lights, cameras, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely was a little nervous coming up here. I

475
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<v Speaker 5>mean I don't think that I've really this is by

476
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<v Speaker 5>far the biggest like streamed moment I've ever had. I

477
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<v Speaker 5>think I was on a stream a couple of times before,

478
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<v Speaker 5>much smaller stuff. So yeah, I was definitely nervous. It

479
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<v Speaker 5>didn't change really anything how I played.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, it was nice.

481
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<v Speaker 5>I felt way more locked in. In the back of

482
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<v Speaker 5>my head. I was like, well, you can't do anything

483
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<v Speaker 5>stupid because everyone you know is going to see if

484
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<v Speaker 5>you do. Playing with Daniels a lot of fun. It

485
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<v Speaker 5>was an interesting day because no one went bust. This

486
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<v Speaker 5>was the nine that we started with and the nine

487
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<v Speaker 5>that we ended with, so I think I bagged the

488
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<v Speaker 5>most ships of anyone with one oh three point eight,

489
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<v Speaker 5>So there wasn't a ton of big hands. Everyone played

490
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<v Speaker 5>really solid. I don't know if the Future table had

491
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<v Speaker 5>anything to do with it. There were it was kind

492
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<v Speaker 5>of the same before, so I would say, uh, it

493
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<v Speaker 5>was fun. It was fun, but you know a little

494
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<v Speaker 5>bit of nerves at the start. But you know, a

495
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<v Speaker 5>few minutes in, it's just poker.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta put you on the spot a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>How uh, how would you rate Daniel's play on day one?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh God, I hope he's not listening. No, no, I

499
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<v Speaker 5>mean Daniel was Daniel. He played a lot of hands,

500
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<v Speaker 5>he saw a lot of flops. You know, we were

501
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<v Speaker 5>talking about PLO all day. He just won one hundred

502
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<v Speaker 5>k PLO. He was like, you know, I love PLO

503
00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:38.359
<v Speaker 5>because I get the limp and no matter what, I'm

504
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<v Speaker 5>gonna call. So he definitely employed the limp in his

505
00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.039
<v Speaker 5>pimp and strategy a little bit. He didn't. I don't

506
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<v Speaker 5>think he made very many hands. He ended up bagging

507
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<v Speaker 5>more than starting. He had played one big one at

508
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<v Speaker 5>the end where he made a good call with trips

509
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<v Speaker 5>versus top two. But he didn't show down a ton

510
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<v Speaker 5>of hands. He saw a lot of rivers unfolded. But

511
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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's Daniel Gronde.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the goat.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, after you have this experience, you're up here playing

514
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<v Speaker 1>on the stream. Is it something you're more wanting to

515
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<v Speaker 1>get back to or are you like, you.

516
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<v Speaker 2>Know what, I did it on day one.

517
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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to avoid it for a few days and

518
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<v Speaker 1>then maybe on day five basics, when it's real, let's go.

519
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<v Speaker 2>Then it's a good question. I think I want more.

520
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<v Speaker 5>I think I want more. I think I felt like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I definitely made a couple of mistakes today,

522
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<v Speaker 5>and there's always things to improve on. But I definitely

523
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<v Speaker 5>I struggle here and there with being present at the table.

524
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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm a little add I'm looking all over

525
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<v Speaker 5>the place, going on my phone, I'm taking a break.

526
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<v Speaker 5>So this was this was like you can't do that,

527
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<v Speaker 5>you just you literally cannot. So I want more of this.

528
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<v Speaker 5>I hope it's not till day five, but I hope

529
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<v Speaker 5>I'm back here for sure.

530
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<v Speaker 3>I want one.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a great start for Ben Ludlow. He

532
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<v Speaker 1>bagged more than one hundred thousand, bagged one hundred and

533
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<v Speaker 1>three thousand and eight hundred. He also told me off

534
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<v Speaker 1>Mike that he flopped a straight flush at one hand.

535
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<v Speaker 1>I think it was in the last level of the night.

536
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<v Speaker 1>Want a small pot or so something there. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean things went pretty well for Ludlow, and you

538
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<v Speaker 1>guys can check him out if you want to, over

539
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<v Speaker 1>on the Poker News podcast that's he co hosts alongside

540
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<v Speaker 1>Chad Holloway and Mike Holts. Mike Colts was also in

541
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<v Speaker 1>the field today. Don't know how he fared, but he

542
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<v Speaker 1>was looked like he was having a blast when Jeff

543
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<v Speaker 1>Platt went out there and interviewed him about halfway through

544
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<v Speaker 1>the day or so. And of course we know because

545
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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it on this show already this summer.

546
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<v Speaker 1>But Mike Colts won a bracelets the super Turbo bounty.

547
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<v Speaker 1>He won for around two hundred and forty thousand dollars.

548
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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was on the other side of things.

549
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<v Speaker 1>Of course, plenty of players did, unfortunately have to bust out.

550
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<v Speaker 1>That's just how poker tournaments work. Some of the notable

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<v Speaker 1>players to hit the rail on Day one D include

552
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<v Speaker 1>Scottie Winn, Doug Polk. Doug Polk, by the way, had

553
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<v Speaker 1>a wild level up and down and all over the

554
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<v Speaker 1>place to start this thing that ultimately could never recover

555
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<v Speaker 1>and bust it. Nate Silver Sugar, Sean O'Malley, the UFC fighter,

556
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<v Speaker 1>He was out there battling. He was on one of

557
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<v Speaker 1>the feature tables for a while. He ultimately got moved

558
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<v Speaker 1>off or his table got you know, replaced with another

559
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>table up there, and then Sugar Sean busted out. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the either the second to last level

561
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<v Speaker 1>or the last level of the Night Team or Margrelin,

562
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:13.319
<v Speaker 1>a three time Bracele winner. He busted Michael Burke, John Juwanda,

563
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<v Speaker 1>David Odb Baker friend of the Pod Odb. His main

564
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<v Speaker 1>event run comes to an end, and the PLO god

565
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<v Speaker 1>Lataro Guera also hit the rail on Day one d

566
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<v Speaker 1>of the main event. I think that's going to do

567
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<v Speaker 1>it for the w SP main Event, and honestly, that

568
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<v Speaker 1>just might do it for the POD. I'm excited for

569
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<v Speaker 1>my Day two. It's on Monday, starts at eleven am.

570
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<v Speaker 1>I believe I'm in the Horseshoe room as opposed to

571
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<v Speaker 1>the parish room this time, so at some point we

572
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<v Speaker 1>might break if I survived that long. But yeah, I'm

573
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<v Speaker 1>excited coming off what was a rough you know, what

574
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<v Speaker 1>was it eighty percent of Day one that ultimately the

575
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<v Speaker 1>last level turned out to be pretty good from where

576
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<v Speaker 1>I was. I know I talked about in the last episode.

577
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<v Speaker 1>So overall feeling good going into Day two. Think my

578
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<v Speaker 1>table draw is okay, don't. I mean I recognize a

579
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<v Speaker 1>couple names there, but doesn't seem like it'll be too bad.

580
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But again, it doesn't matter what your table draw is. Yes,

581
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<v Speaker 1>some can be good, some can be bad. You know,

582
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<v Speaker 1>that's just the luck of the draw. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, you have to sit down and

584
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<v Speaker 1>you have to face those players in front of you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm ready for whatever they throw at me and

586
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<v Speaker 1>hopefully I perform my best. So short and sweet here,

587
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<v Speaker 1>but this main event is building again. We are over

588
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<v Speaker 1>eight thousand entries in the WSP main event this year.

589
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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what the Day two ABC and Day two

590
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<v Speaker 1>D late registration brings. I'm thinking nine hundred to one thousand,

591
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<v Speaker 1>which gets this total field size up over nine thousand.

592
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<v Speaker 1>My guess on the field size was nine and seventy seven,

593
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<v Speaker 1>so that could still be achieved. Yes, and uh, we're

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<v Speaker 1>off and running. It's the World Series of Poker Main event.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best freaking time of the year, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>freaking go. My name is Donny Peters. As always, don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget that. If you enjoy this podcast, please hit the

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<v Speaker 1>follow or subscribe button wherever you guys listen, leave a

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<v Speaker 1>five star rating and a review, and share the show

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<v Speaker 1>with a fellow Hooker fan. And we want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from you guys. Actually, let me just say this. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I want to hear from you

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<v Speaker 1>guys now that it is Main Event time. I know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have been out there on social

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<v Speaker 1>media saying this, that and the other thing about the

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<v Speaker 1>coverage this year. I want to hear from you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners. But I don't want to hear just complaining

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<v Speaker 1>and rants and whatever. Give some provide some actual suggestions

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<v Speaker 1>or some thoughts as to things that you would like

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<v Speaker 1>to see with the coverage. I plan on sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the full main event, you know, basically from

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<v Speaker 1>start to finish. I'll just binge it once the final

613
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<v Speaker 1>table is reached and I have a bit more time

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<v Speaker 1>on my hands to actually consume it all. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to get some thoughts from the listeners

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<v Speaker 1>out there and be like, hey, you know, what if

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<v Speaker 1>they did this, or what if they did that? Or

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<v Speaker 1>I think this would be cool or I think that

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<v Speaker 1>would be cool. I don't think we've ever asked for

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<v Speaker 1>that before on this podcast. I'd be interested to hear it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys can send that stuff into podcast at

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<v Speaker 1>PokerGO dot com. Thanks as always to producer Rich for

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<v Speaker 1>his work behind the scenes. My name is Donnie Peters

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<v Speaker 1>and I will catch you guys for next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Express
