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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. This is

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twelve ten am on Monday, July sixth. All four starting

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flights for the twenty twenty six World Series of Poker

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Main Event are done and dusted. That's going to be

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I think all we'll talk about today. I got to

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play tomorrow, guys. I want to be able to get

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a decent amount of sleep. But we're going to hit

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on what was, as expected, the largest starting flight for

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the WSP Main Event. The numbers are in through the

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first four starting flights. Of course, we still have Day

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two registration on both Day to ABC and Day two

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D to come, so don't know the final number just yet.

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A lot of big names were in the mix. We're

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going to be talking about it. There was a crazy

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hand within the first thirty minutes that we'll touch on

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the world. That's just about a week left, or exactly

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to the regular crisis. The final starting flight for the

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twenty twenty six WSP Main Event attracted four thousand, six

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hundred and ninety four entries. Yes, that is down. It's

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a decrease of six point one percent from last year's

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Day one d but a bit better than I think

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probably a lot of people expected for this final flight,

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even myself, you know, I thought this would come in

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around between forty three and forty four hundred. I'm just

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kind of looking at where some of the trends were

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so far. But things performed pretty pretty well overall. We're

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sitting at eight thousand and seventy seven entries before we

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tally any of the Day two late entries, and that

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is down seven point one percent from last year. Last year,

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at this point we were at eight thousand, six hundred

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and ninety four. I have been talking about what I

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think is going to be happening for the day two

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late entries. I still think we're gonna get around one thousand.

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Let's say nine hundred to one thousand is my final guess.

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And if we do that, the number goes back up

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over nine thousand, and it's it's you know, it's fine.

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It's certainly plenty fine. A lot of stuff is been down.

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Some stuff has been up, of course, but a lot

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of stuff has been down throughout the summer. It's just

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kind of a crazy wild world out there where things

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are expensive, people have less money. Bitcoin is down, like

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you know, they got the ninety percent tax law, like

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you got all this sort of stuff that's just going

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against poker right now. But still being able to maintain

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what I think is going to be right around nine thousand,

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probably a little bit more than nine thousand entries for

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the WSP made event in this current climate, I think

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is a very very big win for the World Series

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of Poker, and I am looking forward to next year

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because when you make this big push to build a

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new stage like they did, bring the streaming to ESPN.

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You know what sort of effect is that going to have?

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And it's not just ESPN because yes, it's ESPN in

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the the US, or the ESPN platform, I should say

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in the US, because it's split between the app slash

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plus and then also it'll be on ESPN and ESPN

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two for the final table. But there's there's some international

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deals as well. So you know, the US stuff, I know,

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a lot of US, a lot of the listeners out

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there see because we are you know, in the US,

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we're American, et cetera. But there's a lot of stuff

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going on around the rest of the world too. To

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beef up the distribution. That's not gonna be something that

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really pays any sort of dividends this year. It's if

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enough people see it, there's enough eyeballs on it, people

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get excited about it. They say, that's awesome. Maybe I

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forgot about poker. Maybe this reignites some sort of fire

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inside me to get back out there and fire this.

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And then next year is when you see the bump

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plus maybe you know, maybe Bitcoin goes back up and

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other crypto maybe you know, the economy is just doing

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a little bit better. All that sort of stuff. You know,

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we'd have we'd have a year, right, so that's a

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lot of time for things to to turn the right direction.

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but I generally like to be positive about things in

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the world. So you know, we gotta we gotta got

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a new highst hit next year. Of course, within the

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first thirty minutes of day one, as reported by Poker News,

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Patrick Lander was eliminated from the tournament in a pretty

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crazy fashion, bluffing it off with six high So listen

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to this hand. This is this is again, this is

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this is as reported by Poker News, but it does

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come from with the table reported two Poker News Under

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the gun you had Nicholas by Sirius. Believe I said

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that name correctly. He raised a five hundred again the

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first level in his minimum is one hundred, two hundred

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with the sixty k starting stack. Action folded all the

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way around to Brian Bonacor in the small blind. He

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made the call, and then Lander Patrick Lander was in

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the big blind. He three bet to fifteen hundred. Both

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players call it comes nine to eighty four. Small blind

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checks Lander out of the big blind bets two thousand,

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which is right around forty percent pot. Both players call

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turn is an ace, small Blind checks again. Lander comes

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with the same bet two k, so now this time

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he's betting around twenty percent pot, one fifth of the pot.

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The original razor from under the gun VI Sierras He folds,

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but then the small blind bon Acorp he checked raises

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to seven k. Lander decides to make the call, having

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position on his opponent, River is a King. Bonacor bets

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twelve thousand, which is fifty percent pot, and Lander goes

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all in for what the table said was around forty

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five thousand. After a little bit of a tank, Bonacort

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called with pocket eights for a set of eights. He

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flopped a set of eights on the nine to eighty

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four flop. Lander had six five six five six high

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and was sent out the door. Now, listen, this isn't

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an easy call with the eights, So I think you

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got to tip your cap to Bonacor here, because listen,

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I don't recognize these players in the hand. And you know,

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forgive me if I'm just you know, not recognizing them.

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But let's just what I'm getting at is, I don't

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think that these players probably knew who each other were like,

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you know, it's not like you're sitting down You're like, Okay,

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this is Alex Fox and he can have X y

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Z hands. You know, he can kind of be out

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there doing something. I mean, when you have what you

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might think is an unknown player, you don't know that

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player and they're just going all in within the first

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half hour of the WSP Maine event, I mean, you

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have to have some sort of giant sirens just booming

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in your head, being like what the heck is going on?

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So you're sitting there with a set of eight. It's

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when listen, this guy could certainly have aces here, right,

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three bet pre flop, bets the flop, BET's the turn

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and betting the turn really small. If he were to

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have aces here. When he makes a set of aces

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and then he gets check raised, he just flats to

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keep all your opponents' hands in, gets a clean river card,

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and then just goes bombs away. You know, like that

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makes sense to me, right, I mean, kings maybe a

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little less, so you know probably, I mean, maybe you

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bet the turn like this and then you call a

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check raise. I don't know, maybe you want to splash

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around a little bit nine. I could possibly being there

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if he wants to get aggressive pre flop, probably more

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of it just a call, but you know, I think

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it's certainly likely that this player could have aces. Now,

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I don't know what Patrick Lander was up to for

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the you know, the twenty twenty five minutes or however

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long he was there first. Maybe he's just blasting off

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and everyone's like, you know, this guy's just he's going off.

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We got to call him down. But still it did

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say that Bonacor did tank call with the eights, you know,

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so you know, you got to tap the table, tip

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your cap to Bonicor there for making the call there

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and Lander, I mean, I mean, the guy just freaking

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went for it. He was six high. But he's out

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of the tournament. So that's that. You always just see

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these wild hands in the Level one of the WSP

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main event. It's just it's crazy out there, right, it

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really is. I mean, at the end of the day,

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I know it's the biggest and the best and the

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most prestigious tournament in the world, and one that it's

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on every poker player's bucket list. Everyone wants to try

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extra hard. Everyone's you know, a little bit more kind

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of buttoned up in a lot of spots. Not everyone,

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but you know a lot of people and some other

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people are just out there. They just take it to

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the opposite extreme right. They either just kind of treat

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it like they would any other tournament and just go

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for it in spots when they want to, or they're

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just there to just gamble up, try and run up

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a huge stack and just steamroll this whole thing from

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start to finish. And that's what leads to some pretty

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crazy hands early on. And of course with all eyes,

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all media, you know, focused on the WSP main events,

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all of this sort of stuff that happens in the

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early levels, it really does come to light with that

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increased spotlight on it. So we said goodbye to Patrick

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Lander early on with the six High Bluff and just

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you know, wild stuff there. Plenty of big names were

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in the field for Day one d You had Daniel

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mcgrano made it down to Paris. He played on the

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feature table all day long, well I shouldn't say all

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day from level I think three all the way till

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the end. Nick Schulman was in the mix. You had

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both the Fox and Kristin Fox and Alex Foxen were

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out there, Martin Cabrell was in there, Victor Blom, Darren Elias,

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Eric Lnglan, Ryan Race, Benny Glausser, Anthony Zen, Oshan deeb,

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Jennifer Tilly, Phil Locke was out there, Greg Mueller, Joe Hasham,

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Jonathan Tamayo, Jeremy Becker, Dylan Wiseman, Joey Weissman, Christian Harder

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and then rampage Ethan Rampagey how they were all in

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the mix. Don't really know how. Too many of them

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bagged up chips. I do know that Jennifer Tilly bagged

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around thirty thousand. I know that Daniel legrand New bagged chips.

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I didn't see what his number was. It wasn't in

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the app just yet, but I know they finished up

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their hand up on the main feature table. He did

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the phil ivey, he walked off and did a walk

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off interview they like. Jeff Platt met him, I don't know,

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twenty feet from the table in the middle of the

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main stage area and they walked off and filmed an

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exit interview or a day end interview. I shouldn't say

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EXE because he didn't bust the tournament. Daniel but a

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day's end interview, you know all they will they walked

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out of the room and then somebody else, you know,

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floor staff or whoever bags Daniel's chips up on the

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feature table. Another player that was in the mix, Paul, Missrocky.

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I know you guys know a lot about the Miss

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Rocky brothers. Well, this is a Miss Rocky son. Paul

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Msrocky is Michael the Grinder, Miss Rocky's son. He played

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I think his first like big major tournament in December

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when he had turned twenty one at WSP Paradise And

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here he is playing his first WSP main event. And

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guess how many chips this guy backed? One hundred and

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ninety seven, two under, more than three times the starting

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stack in true Miss Rocky fashion. You know, I was

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reading through. There's an article about it on on pokernews

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dot com and shout out to Poker News. By the way,

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I've been referencing them a lot throughout the summer. They've

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been doing a lot of hard work out there, a

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lot of articles, a lot of good stuff. With the

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live reporting. It's always good to have, Yes, it's great

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to have the streams and the coverage that way, but

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then also, you know to have written in other media

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going out as well. It's just if you want to

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consume it all and be a total nerd about it,

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you got to consume it all, right. But ms Rocky

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was kind of joking like did I get lucky today

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or you know, how did I play or whatever to

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his table, and his table said, no, you grinded. So

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you know, it sounds like he grinded it out. But

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we got at new miss Rocky here, Paul ms Rocky,

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Michael Mrocky's son bagging more than three times the starting stack.

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I mentioned Jennifer Tilly and how she bagged around thirty thousand.

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I think it was just shy of thirty thousand, so

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just shy of half of a starting stack. She hasn't

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been playing that Visit to be Man event for a while.

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And now you guys are gonna have to bear with

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us on the audio here because we shot it for

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a video. But we're gonna use the audio here because

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I do want to hear from Gentilly. You know why

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she's been not able to play the w C MANI

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for a few years. She talks about her love for poker,

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mentions you know, her boyfriend Phil Locke and you know

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him playing and you know all different kinds of stuff

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from Jennifer Tilly. Ka did this interview, So here's from

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Jennifer Tilly. This was before she bagged on the day.

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So on one of the breaks leading towards the end of.

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Speaker 2: The day, Jennifer, where have you been all these years

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in the main?

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Speaker 3: Well, I am so happy. It's been six years since

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I've played the main for Suicid Pandemic, remember the Pandemic,

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then three seasons of Chucking, which we filmed in the summer,

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two seasons.

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Speaker 2: Of the Real House. It's the Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 3: So this is my first main event tournament in a

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very long time. So it's fun. I'm a little rusty

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and tournament play like I played high sakes poker. Those

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guys play like crazy pants. They're like billionaires. They lose

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one hundred thousand dollars and then they laugh and they

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show you that they have three seven off suit. So

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these people you so when they raise you, they have something.

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So I'm learning how to adjust to how real people play.

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But my big goal is the lasted at the end

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of the day, because it'd be a gloomy time in

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the old Tilly Philly household tomorrow. If Phil is still

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in the tournament and I'm not, so I think I

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can hold on to my chips, just not do anything

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crazy and rash.

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Speaker 4: You've been at the World Chairs of bog before many years. Yes,

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the lore of the main event is huge. You have

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a bracelet, but you don't have a deep run in

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the main events.

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Speaker 2: So talk to me about what this tournament means to

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you and what that would mean.

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Speaker 3: I have never gotten past the second day. I think

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once I made it to the second day, and all

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the other days I just didn't even get past the

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first day. It would be so amazing to do a

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deep run. I mean, and a lot of people dream

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about making the final table. I dream of them saying

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the bubble has burst and I'm there cheering along with

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everybody else. So you know, hopefully that'll happen. But anything

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can happen. This is the great thing about tournaments. I mean,

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a lot of times you say the cream rises to

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the top. Sometimes you'll see some really top players at

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the final table, but more often you see, like Joe

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from Ohio, a guy with the dream like I'm sitting

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next to lady that has like a farm. She's like, Oh,

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I left the cows for a couple of days to

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come play poker. That's the greatest thing about this. Everybody

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comes from all over, everyone has the same dream, and

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it's legendary. I know there's other tournaments to have a

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lot bigger buy in, like two hundred and fifty thousand

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buy in, and obviously the Poker Players Championship is very

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presty just but I just love this. I love what

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it represents. I love that we have Norman, Chad and

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Lon mcghernan back. I've got the ESPN broadcasting it because

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I cut my teeth. I'm watching the World Series of

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Poker live, not live, but on TV before I actually

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came out here and played it myself. So this is

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where legends are made.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent agreed.

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Speaker 4: The cash games, though, have gotten so much traction. Yeah,

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whenever you play, it goes crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And what I found super interesting is that your fans,

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they know you from your.

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Speaker 2: Acting career, and then every now and then.

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Speaker 4: You throw on a poker clip or something about poker,

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and it's so fascinating to see their response.

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Speaker 2: Right, what is it like to you to show them

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this part of your life.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's so interesting because well, I say,

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before Housewives, usually before Housewives, seven out of ten people

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knew me from Bride of Chucky and three out of

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ten people knew me from poker. So now most people

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know me from Housewives. It's I don't know, it's a

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huge show all around the world. But I'm so happy

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when people say that they like watching me in poker,

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and I always get a little like cringe, Like they're like,

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I was watching on TV last night. I was like,

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were you watching when I one hundred thousand dollars? You're

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watching me handra I lost one hundred thousand dollars Because

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on any given day, you're a terrible poker player or

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you're a brilliant poker player, and the swings on those

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games are insane. But the girls, like for example, in

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Real Housewives and Beverly Hills, they get super excited. You're like,

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I want ten thousand dollars last night, and you're like

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and they're like, ten thousand dollars, what are you gonna buy?

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And to me, it's like that's such a baby pot.

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So it is fun, you know, to have a lot

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of things that I'm interested in and have a lot

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of things that I love to do. But I was

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saying to Phill the end day philed my boyfriend Phil

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Lock in the UNI Bomber, we're really getting back into

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wanting to We used to follow the tournament circuit and

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it's really fun. And then one day we decided like, oh,

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we're old stirs. We can't be tramping around but we're

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all chasing these elusive stats. But now we've got like

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renewed vigor and we were even thinking that maybe next

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year we're just gonna go around to some of these

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exotic places and you know, compete, compete with Ill.

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Speaker 2: Why not? Why not? Final question? Poker has been a

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consulant in your life?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: What does the game mean to you?

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Speaker 3: You know what I love about poker is it's it's

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really a microcosm of life. Like this morning, I woke

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up with dread, like, what terrible thing is gonna happen

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at the end of the day. I mean, they're gonna

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be happier. I'm gonna be not happy. But it's it

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is like life. You have these extreme emotions and it's

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so much like I used to be haunted by, Oh,

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you know the thing a lady went through the intersection,

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got broadsided by the carl. You know, you think I

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would think what if she left house a little lad,

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what if she left the house a little earlier. I

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always feel like when poker, we're always like, what if

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I check raised on the turn? Or what if I

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hadn't played that hand, or what if I played it

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a little bit differently? Would I still be in the tournament?

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And you have a lot of self incriminations and ruminations,

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you know, you're always exploring your soul, like did I

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just tilt off those chips? Was a like a really

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good bluff that just didn't work. I'm very kind to

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myself because I feel like I make the best decisions

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given the information that I have. And you know, it's like,

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how was I to know the guy I had quads?

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You know, you don't know these things. And the thing

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with people who are professional poker players or even amateur

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poker players, they tend to beat themselves up a lot.

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But the reason why this is such a great game,

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it's a game of incomplete information, and the luck factor

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really throws her mention to think, isn't it, Philahelm, You said,

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if for luck, I'd win every time. But that's why

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we have all the amateur players from all over the

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world coming and chasing their dream because they've had themmen,

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this amount of luck in their poker league, get home,

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and they really want to come and try their luck

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with the best. I think, you know, obviously, when Chris

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Moneymaker won against Sammy Fara, a seasoned gambler with an

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insane bluff, I think that that really inspired everybody. Everyone

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could be a poker champion. Yeah, everybody can. Why not me?

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Speaker 1: Good stuff there from Jennifer Tilly. Interesting to hear how

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she's kind of feeling like she has to figure out

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how tournament players play, and specifically in the dobas v

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min event play in a contrast to how players play

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in the cash games, you know, high stakes poker, no gamble,

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no future, all the big stuff, Poker Stars, big game,

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whatever it is that Jennifer Tilly plays on. You know,

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it's more just like a rich home game. People are

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splashing around, they're in there with you know, kind of

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really wide ranges, they're doing kind of wild stuff. They're

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willing to gamble a bit more in a tournament, and

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especially in the w P Man event, it's it's not

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like that out there. I mean, maybe once in a

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while you get that absolute unicorn of a table draw

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where there are people all splashing around. It is like,

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you know, just a cash game atmosphere. But for the

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for the most part, you know, people are you know,

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much more buttoned up with everything. They play a bit

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closer to the vest. And you also get a wider variety,

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a wider range of all types of players. You get

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people that are in on satellites and that could be

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smaller buyings to free roles to whatever. You get rich

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people that are in there. You get grinders that are

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in there, you get shot takers that are in there.

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You know, you get all this sort of stuff where

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it's a little bit more confined the player type. When

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you know gentility is going to play let's say a

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high six poker for example. And by the way, you

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can catch her on season sixteen available.

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Speaker 2: Now on a Poker go.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was just interesting to hear from her

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how she you know, she's got to kind of change

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up her game and kind of refigure things out. You know,

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Jenn's played a lot of poker in her life to yeah,

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here she is backgrinding and both her and Phil Locke

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did advance to Day two. As long as the app

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is correct, I think Phil lock bagged around seventy seven thousand,

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and then I mentioned Tilly bagged around thirty thousand. Another

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player to bag chips and some of you listeners out

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there may know this name and also have heard his voice,

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Ben Ludlow. Ben Ludlow good friend of mine, friend of

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the pod, but also co host of the Poker News podcast.

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I wanted to talk to Ben because he was stuck

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up on the feature table, the main feature table for

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three levels today, because he had a starting table that

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belonged to the one Daniel mcgroney. Ben battled with Daniel

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in a few pots, some early on offstream, then a

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couple on stream. I just wanted to get the lay

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of the land, you know, see how his day went.

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What was it like playing on the feature on day one?

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You know, I think it's interesting especially for people who

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maybe you're nervous, maybe you're coming out and you're you're

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planning to play the main event, and you're like, oh, man,

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like what if they put me on a feature What

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if I get a table draw with one or two

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big names, or I draw like like bended here with

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with Daniel. You know, am I am I gonna be

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nervous going up there? You know, how's it gonna be? Yeah.

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I mean a lot of times you see people kind

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of go one of two ways when they get to

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a stream table. One is that they get really tight

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and conservative because they're overly cautious and they don't want

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to make mistakes. On the other side, you get people

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that their ego really comes out and they start going

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from confident to cocky. And once you do that, that's

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bad news. And you're trying to pull off big bluffs

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and you're trying to you know, make a show out

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of a hand or whatever it may be, and that

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can also you know, backfire against you. And you know

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that's why they say. You know, a lot of the

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a lot of the pros or experienced players who have

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have you know a lot of hours out there playing

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under the bright light. It's with the cameras on, you know,

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all that sort of stuff. They can take advantage of

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tables like that because they're just used to that, right.

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But Ben got the play up there for I think

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it was six hours today, three full levels. So let's

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hear from Ben Ludload, now co host of the Poker

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News podcast. You played on the feature table, the main

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feature table with Dane on the Grand Nude pretty much

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all day on day one. How was that experience. Did

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you feel like you had to do anything differently, you know,

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bright lights, cameras, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: I definitely was a little nervous coming up here. I

475
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mean I don't think that I've really this is by

476
00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:37,079
far the biggest like streamed moment I've ever had. I

477
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think I was on a stream a couple of times before,

478
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,000
much smaller stuff. So yeah, I was definitely nervous. It

479
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didn't change really anything how I played.

480
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Speaker 2: Honestly, it was nice.

481
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Speaker 5: I felt way more locked in. In the back of

482
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my head. I was like, well, you can't do anything

483
00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:52,119
stupid because everyone you know is going to see if

484
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you do. Playing with Daniels a lot of fun. It

485
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,200
was an interesting day because no one went bust. This

486
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was the nine that we started with and the nine

487
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,480
that we ended with, so I think I bagged the

488
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,960
most ships of anyone with one oh three point eight,

489
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,039
So there wasn't a ton of big hands. Everyone played

490
00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:08,920
really solid. I don't know if the Future table had

491
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anything to do with it. There were it was kind

492
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of the same before, so I would say, uh, it

493
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was fun. It was fun, but you know a little

494
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bit of nerves at the start. But you know, a

495
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few minutes in, it's just poker.

496
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Speaker 1: I gotta put you on the spot a little bit.

497
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How uh, how would you rate Daniel's play on day one?

498
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Speaker 5: Oh God, I hope he's not listening. No, no, I

499
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mean Daniel was Daniel. He played a lot of hands,

500
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he saw a lot of flops. You know, we were

501
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,160
talking about PLO all day. He just won one hundred

502
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,599
k PLO. He was like, you know, I love PLO

503
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,359
because I get the limp and no matter what, I'm

504
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,960
gonna call. So he definitely employed the limp in his

505
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,039
pimp and strategy a little bit. He didn't. I don't

506
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think he made very many hands. He ended up bagging

507
00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:48,400
more than starting. He had played one big one at

508
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the end where he made a good call with trips

509
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:53,440
versus top two. But he didn't show down a ton

510
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of hands. He saw a lot of rivers unfolded. But

511
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I mean it's Daniel Gronde.

512
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Speaker 2: He's the goat.

513
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Speaker 1: Now, after you have this experience, you're up here playing

514
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:03,680
on the stream. Is it something you're more wanting to

515
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,799
get back to or are you like, you.

516
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Speaker 2: Know what, I did it on day one.

517
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Speaker 1: I'm happy to avoid it for a few days and

518
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then maybe on day five basics, when it's real, let's go.

519
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Speaker 2: Then it's a good question. I think I want more.

520
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,319
Speaker 5: I think I want more. I think I felt like,

521
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,599
you know, I definitely made a couple of mistakes today,

522
00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:22,079
and there's always things to improve on. But I definitely

523
00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:25,400
I struggle here and there with being present at the table.

524
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,079
You know, I'm a little add I'm looking all over

525
00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:29,319
the place, going on my phone, I'm taking a break.

526
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So this was this was like you can't do that,

527
00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:35,240
you just you literally cannot. So I want more of this.

528
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:37,880
I hope it's not till day five, but I hope

529
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,799
I'm back here for sure.

530
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Speaker 3: I want one.

531
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Speaker 1: So it was a great start for Ben Ludlow. He

532
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,079
bagged more than one hundred thousand, bagged one hundred and

533
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,640
three thousand and eight hundred. He also told me off

534
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,319
Mike that he flopped a straight flush at one hand.

535
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:55,720
I think it was in the last level of the night.

536
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:58,839
Want a small pot or so something there. So yeah,

537
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:01,359
I mean things went pretty well for Ludlow, and you

538
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,200
guys can check him out if you want to, over

539
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,160
on the Poker News podcast that's he co hosts alongside

540
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,039
Chad Holloway and Mike Holts. Mike Colts was also in

541
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,519
the field today. Don't know how he fared, but he

542
00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:14,880
was looked like he was having a blast when Jeff

543
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,000
Platt went out there and interviewed him about halfway through

544
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:18,960
the day or so. And of course we know because

545
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,039
we talked about it on this show already this summer.

546
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:26,039
But Mike Colts won a bracelets the super Turbo bounty.

547
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,119
He won for around two hundred and forty thousand dollars.

548
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:31,720
I believe it was on the other side of things.

549
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:35,000
Of course, plenty of players did, unfortunately have to bust out.

550
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:38,279
That's just how poker tournaments work. Some of the notable

551
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:40,640
players to hit the rail on Day one D include

552
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:43,640
Scottie Winn, Doug Polk. Doug Polk, by the way, had

553
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,839
a wild level up and down and all over the

554
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:48,880
place to start this thing that ultimately could never recover

555
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,519
and bust it. Nate Silver Sugar, Sean O'Malley, the UFC fighter,

556
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,079
He was out there battling. He was on one of

557
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,559
the feature tables for a while. He ultimately got moved

558
00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:01,480
off or his table got you know, replaced with another

559
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:05,880
table up there, and then Sugar Sean busted out. So

560
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,880
I think in the either the second to last level

561
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,359
or the last level of the Night Team or Margrelin,

562
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:13,319
a three time Bracele winner. He busted Michael Burke, John Juwanda,

563
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,680
David Odb Baker friend of the Pod Odb. His main

564
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,400
event run comes to an end, and the PLO god

565
00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:23,559
Lataro Guera also hit the rail on Day one d

566
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,920
of the main event. I think that's going to do

567
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,680
it for the w SP main Event, and honestly, that

568
00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:33,519
just might do it for the POD. I'm excited for

569
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,960
my Day two. It's on Monday, starts at eleven am.

570
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,079
I believe I'm in the Horseshoe room as opposed to

571
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,759
the parish room this time, so at some point we

572
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,440
might break if I survived that long. But yeah, I'm

573
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,319
excited coming off what was a rough you know, what

574
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,799
was it eighty percent of Day one that ultimately the

575
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,799
last level turned out to be pretty good from where

576
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:03,039
I was. I know I talked about in the last episode.

577
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,759
So overall feeling good going into Day two. Think my

578
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,000
table draw is okay, don't. I mean I recognize a

579
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:13,200
couple names there, but doesn't seem like it'll be too bad.

580
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,440
But again, it doesn't matter what your table draw is. Yes,

581
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:19,119
some can be good, some can be bad. You know,

582
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:20,839
that's just the luck of the draw. But at the

583
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,000
end of the day, you have to sit down and

584
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:24,960
you have to face those players in front of you.

585
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:27,319
So I'm ready for whatever they throw at me and

586
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:30,599
hopefully I perform my best. So short and sweet here,

587
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,119
but this main event is building again. We are over

588
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,279
eight thousand entries in the WSP main event this year.

589
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,039
We'll see what the Day two ABC and Day two

590
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,599
D late registration brings. I'm thinking nine hundred to one thousand,

591
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,519
which gets this total field size up over nine thousand.

592
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:53,200
My guess on the field size was nine and seventy seven,

593
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,400
so that could still be achieved. Yes, and uh, we're

594
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,400
off and running. It's the World Series of Poker Main event.

595
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,319
It's the best freaking time of the year, so let's

596
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,559
freaking go. My name is Donny Peters. As always, don't

597
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:07,680
forget that. If you enjoy this podcast, please hit the

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follow or subscribe button wherever you guys listen, leave a

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with a fellow Hooker fan. And we want to hear

601
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from you guys. Actually, let me just say this. One

602
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:19,599
of the things that I want to hear from you

603
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,000
guys now that it is Main Event time. I know

604
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:23,559
a lot of people have been out there on social

605
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,000
media saying this, that and the other thing about the

606
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,079
coverage this year. I want to hear from you guys,

607
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,559
the listeners. But I don't want to hear just complaining

608
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:35,640
and rants and whatever. Give some provide some actual suggestions

609
00:29:35,799 --> 00:29:38,079
or some thoughts as to things that you would like

610
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,000
to see with the coverage. I plan on sitting down

611
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:43,960
to watch the full main event, you know, basically from

612
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,039
start to finish. I'll just binge it once the final

613
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:49,279
table is reached and I have a bit more time

614
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:51,920
on my hands to actually consume it all. But you know,

615
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,640
I would like to get some thoughts from the listeners

616
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,119
out there and be like, hey, you know, what if

617
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:56,839
they did this, or what if they did that? Or

618
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,559
I think this would be cool or I think that

619
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would be cool. I don't think we've ever asked for

620
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,960
that before on this podcast. I'd be interested to hear it,

621
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,480
and you guys can send that stuff into podcast at

622
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:10,839
PokerGO dot com. Thanks as always to producer Rich for

623
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,599
his work behind the scenes. My name is Donnie Peters

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and I will catch you guys for next time.

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Speaker 2: Express