WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:06.160 You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. D 2 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:07.759 Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 3 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:12.439 Good morning. My problem is my family and the Bible. 4 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:14.480 Okay and not a good start. 5 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:17.199 Weird, but hello, yeah I'm here. 6 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:21.399 Okay, this may sound weird, but our whole family was 7 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:25.920 raised in Catholicism back in the days, and then life happened, 8 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:30.800 and I don't read the Bible. I try to run 9 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:32.960 my life with what I believe in my heart and 10 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:34.560 according I believe that. 11 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:36.000 I'm taking in the principles. 12 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:39.799 But most of my family are what people call the thumpers. 13 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:44.240 They pay everything literally, and I can't talk to anymore 14 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:48.039 because they just push it in my face instead of 15 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:52.880 like practicing what I think they're reading. But I don't 16 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:56.200 believe they practice it, and so I can't communicate, and 17 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:59.200 I feel like I'm wrong or they're right, or and 18 00:00:59.200 --> 00:00:59.920 I'm confused. 19 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:00.880 I'm confused. 20 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:04.359 Well, it's not necessarily either, or it could be both, 21 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:07.280 and you can learn something and so can they. Wouldn't 22 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.439 you agree? Sure, it doesn't have to be you're wrong 23 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:13.200 or or they are wrong. It's not about that necessarily. 24 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.359 Maybe maybe there's some learning that can be done on 25 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:21.359 both sides, because you know it, people often just get 26 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:24.319 to into that mindset that they're wrong or you're wrong. 27 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:26.480 And I would say that you have every right to 28 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:29.280 be left alone and to not have them cram it 29 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:31.760 down your throat, because you know what happens when people 30 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:32.840 cram things down your. 31 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:35.439 Throat, Well you don't listen. 32 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:38.319 Well, you're throw them back up, probably right, you know. 33 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:40.920 And it's not fair, and it's it's there's nothing in 34 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.480 scripture that says, you know, take this book and see 35 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:45.400 if you can feed it to somebody in thirty seconds. 36 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:50.519 It's it's not fair. But also they're not here to 37 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:53.599 defend themselves. So we'll just look at you if we could, candy, 38 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.480 and just look at ways that you can deal with this. 39 00:01:57.519 --> 00:01:59.480 I prefer the direct, honest route. 40 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:00.120 You know. 41 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:01.959 If somebody's doing that, just say, hey, listen, I know 42 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.159 that you think you're trying to do something good for me, 43 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:07.879 but really it's off putting. It just bothers me. It 44 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:12.759 seems it seems hoity and above, and you make me 45 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:16.400 feel bad about myself and I don't think that that's 46 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:20.560 that's productive. And you make me question things, but not 47 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:22.800 in a good way. You might make me question wanting 48 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:27.639 to talk to you or be around you, and really 49 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:30.240 if you want to have an open discussion to talk 50 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:32.719 about things. There might be times where it's appropriate and 51 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:35.599 where I would welcome it, but not every day. Sometimes 52 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:37.000 I just miss you guys, or want to see you 53 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:39.080 or want to talk with you or want to hang out. 54 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:45.879 And about starting at the beginning, and how people don't 55 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:48.240 do that when they share their faith. They just want 56 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:50.599 to kind of cram it down your throat rather than 57 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.280 just saying, hey, listen, this is some experiences I've had, 58 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:56.240 or this is why I have gone down the path 59 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:59.719 that I have, or why I'm no longer a practicing 60 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:03.159 cast like or whatever. Their change may be. Like the 61 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:05.840 way you put it, that life does happen and people change, 62 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:08.719 but it's not fair. You have every right to say 63 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:10.960 this is not what I'm interested in or what I 64 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:15.960 want to hear about. Having said that, I will because 65 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:18.840 you brought it up. I will say that I'm always 66 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:23.240 concerned about people who because both sides are a little extreme. 67 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:25.240 You've got somebody who seems like they're not living it, 68 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:28.800 but they're just cramming it down other people's throats, as 69 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:31.360 you put it, and say that they're not really living it, 70 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:33.680 they're just talking about it. And then on the other hand, 71 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:36.960 you have somebody like yourself, you described that you, well, 72 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:39.080 I believe that I'm kind of living these tenants or 73 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:44.199 these beliefs, and that concerns me as well. I recently 74 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.400 had a conversation d with someone who was saying, well, 75 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:50.120 I'm a good person, and isn't that all that matters 76 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.000 is if you're a good person and you live this way, 77 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.319 And I said, no, it really isn't. That's a part 78 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:58.240 of it, but it's not the whole thing. And they 79 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:00.639 were having a hard time understanding that. And I explained 80 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:06.319 to them that, for instance, in a marriage all good 81 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:10.120 in all good marriages, there's not infidelity, right, So if 82 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:11.800 you're gonna have a if there, if you're gonna have 83 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:14.960 a good marriage, it can't be sleeping around as well, Right, 84 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:17.519 that's not going to produce a good marriage. However, just 85 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:19.800 because you're not sleeping around doesn't mean you have a 86 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.600 good marriage, right, that's true. Okay, So okay, So my 87 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:27.560 point here is that just because you're living a good 88 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.240 life doesn't mean that you're right with God or that 89 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:34.519 you're under you know, you're understanding or taking in the 90 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.720 truths of God or what God will have you do. 91 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:40.199 Just because you're not sinning. Uh, it takes more to 92 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.920 So the absence of doing bad doesn't mean that you're good. 93 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:49.160 It just means you're not doing those things. For first Secondly, 94 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:52.959 there's other parts of that good that are more important, 95 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:56.720 and those are the reasons for the laws or the 96 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:59.600 reasons for what you're doing that is called good. So 97 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:04.160 in the process of a law, there's the law. And 98 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.759 I always use this example because people remember it simply 99 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:10.160 is the speed limit. Okay, it's fifty five sixty five 100 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:13.839 miles per hour on the highways, So that's the law, 101 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.519 and you could say I'm driving fifty five sixty five. 102 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:19.040 But the spirit of the law is what's important, and 103 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.680 that is that driving in a safe manner keeps people 104 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:27.439 from dying or getting hurt. So people's people not getting 105 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.040 hurt is more important than the law, because that's what 106 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:32.639 the law is all about. So it's not why you're 107 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:35.560 good or that you're being good, it's why you're good. 108 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.920 It's important. So if you're good just because well culture 109 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:42.560 says to do it this way, that's not really necessarily 110 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:46.399 good because some cultures can be wrong. If it's because 111 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:49.360 God says to do it this way, and God is 112 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:53.000 the creator or the author of all creation, well then 113 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:55.360 you need to know more about God to understand the 114 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:58.319 purpose of what you're doing and why it's good. So 115 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.160 that's why I say it's not just about being good, 116 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:04.240 because like the marriage analogy, you can have a bad 117 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:07.759 marriage and not be sleeping around with other people. However, 118 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:09.920 you can't have a good marriage and be sleeping around 119 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:14.000 with people the old you know, uh, what they call 120 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:17.639 an informal logical fallacy. All police carry guns, but not 121 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:20.800 everybody that carries a gun is a police. So in 122 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:24.680 this particular sense, yes, all people who are living a 123 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:27.240 life for God should be doing good things, but not 124 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:29.360 everybody who is doing good things is living a life 125 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:33.199 for God. So that that's what I want you to 126 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:36.160 think about, d because you called, and so I want 127 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:37.800 to I want to impart you with something because you're 128 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.040 the one brave enough to call and they're not here 129 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:44.480 to defend themselves. However, do I condone condone people Bible 130 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.639 thumping and cramming their faith down in your throat? Absolutely 131 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:50.439 positively not. And if you told me you were an happy, 132 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:53.680 happy atheist and you didn't want that. I think you 133 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:55.600 absolutely should have the right to be such. 134 00:06:57.199 --> 00:06:59.639 Well, what should I do then? Do you feel that 135 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:02.600 I should be bridging the gap to reconnect with them, 136 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:06.439 because that's what I should be doing, even though when 137 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.759 they talk to me I feel that it's evil coming 138 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:10.199 at me. 139 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:12.519 Well, if you genuinely miss them, I think you can 140 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:14.680 call them and say, you know what, I genuinely miss you. 141 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:17.319 I miss I miss this. I miss when you tell jokes. 142 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:19.839 I miss when we would bake together. I miss when 143 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:21.720 we would talk about books that we read that weren't 144 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.199 the Bible. I missed that when we talked about movies 145 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:27.639 we watch. I miss the person I grew up with. 146 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:30.959 And I just wanted you to know the reason why 147 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:34.519 I'm missing that, the reason why I've sacrificed that in 148 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:38.000 my life, because every time we get together it's about X, 149 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:41.480 Y and Z, and I can't build a relationship with that. 150 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:45.160 That's not a relationship builder. Do you think that I 151 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.240 sat around the fire with the twelve and only talked 152 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:50.480 about the Bible all the time. No, that's just not 153 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:53.680 the way things work. And in this particular case, the 154 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:56.000 best thing to do is to be very honest with 155 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:59.199 them and say, I know this may come across as hurtful, 156 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.839 and it's not that I'm not curious, and it's not 157 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.079 that I don't want to grow, but the way you're 158 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:08.279 doing it to me, it offends me and it makes 159 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:10.480 me not want to see you. And if you tell 160 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:13.000 me that that's the way it's going to be, then 161 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:14.839 I respect that and I'll go on my merry way. 162 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.120 But I do miss you and I do miss us 163 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:22.680 having normal interaction and you know those things, and just 164 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:25.800 explain that to them and if if they listen, they listen, 165 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.600 and hopefully, you know, God will plant that seed in 166 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:32.080 their heart will grow, and if they choose to reject it, 167 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:33.120 then you move on. 168 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:36.919 Okay, thank you very much. 169 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.000 Well, thank you for calling D very brave of you 170 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.000 and I and I always like when when someone calls 171 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:47.039 who's uh, you know, maybe being mistreated by Christians or 172 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:49.480 the church. It doesn't The fact that you find this 173 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:52.080 to be a safe enough place uh to bring your 174 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:56.200 concerns really pleases me. And it doesn't mean that I'm 175 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.799 always going to agree with you. Doesn't mean that in 176 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:02.000 your eyes, I will will always treat you nicely. Some 177 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:07.440 people don't see tough love or a firm response as nice, 178 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:10.120 and I don't understand that. But the fact that you 179 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:13.320 called d pleases me, and that you're very brave and 180 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:23.480 stand your ground and truth will out on both sides. Frank, 181 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:24.679 Welcome to the Jesus Christio. 182 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:31.960 Hi Jesus, Frank, thank you for your show and I appreciating, 183 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:34.159 enjoy especially all your analogies. 184 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:35.120 Oh, thank you. 185 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:36.600 Well, you know what they're like. 186 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:40.799 Yes, analogies are like I got another one for you, Frank, 187 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:47.759 what if there were no hypothetical questions everyway? 188 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.120 My question is something I have kind of a problem with. 189 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:52.960 I'm a believer in you, and I believe you are 190 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:57.519 who you've said you are. And I have a hard 191 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:01.879 time thinking that people of other religions, maybe especially the 192 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:07.919 Abrahamic religions, are not in fact praying to the same God, 193 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:11.159 the Father God, that I pray to. And I wondered 194 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:16.759 if does God not here since the sincere prayer and 195 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:23.440 intention of people of other religions, And I have a 196 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:27.639 hard time believing these people are not saved and go 197 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:28.519 to heaven. 198 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:33.759 As many people sort of taught kind of an ugly thought. 199 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.799 It seems awkward to think that God, that God would 200 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:38.879 work in that way, doesn't it. 201 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.960 Yeah, yeah, I mean, just that's I mean, I have 202 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:47.519 to live with my head in my rationaley things no 203 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:51.799 matter what I hear or what I you know, it's 204 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:54.519 hard to believe that. I mean, there's so many good, 205 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:01.080 good people, wonderful people, maybe people better than someone, some 206 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:04.720 people who are received or say they received Jesus Christ 207 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:09.759 as their savior. Okay, this is difficult for me to 208 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:11.759 to rationalize, you know. 209 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:15.840 Okay, so let's ask ourselves those questions and think about 210 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:22.759 the possible responses. And there's the sincerity, the human touch 211 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:25.279 on things and getting wrapped up in the humanity of 212 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:29.080 something is good. I mean, you're human. That's the purpose 213 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:32.080 of it. Is to think humanly about the way you 214 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:33.960 interact with the world and the way the world interacts 215 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:39.240 with you and to you. It's legitimate and fair to 216 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:42.559 have differing opinions and thoughts out there. However, if you're 217 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:46.639 a math teacher, you wouldn't allow that same premise. You 218 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:49.559 wouldn't say, well, whatever you think two plus two equals 219 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:52.799 is fine. If you were a chemist, you wouldn't do that. 220 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.279 A scientist, you wouldn't do that a baker, you wouldn't 221 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:59.759 do that. Well, one cup, one tablespoon. You know they 222 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:03.000 both have flower in it. No, the recipe comes out 223 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.240 completely different, as does the equation, as does the chemical compound, 224 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:10.080 as does all of these things. That's just the way 225 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:13.519 life works. In truth, the emotional aspect of it is 226 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:17.480 when you think, really, what comes down to it is 227 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:21.759 if you think that way, it's you're not putting enough 228 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:26.559 importance on the absolute nature of God. You're making God 229 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:30.960 kind of chameleon like. Well, God can look the other 230 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:35.799 way on this. Well, that's not up to Frank, that's 231 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.759 up to God. Right, So hold on tight. We got 232 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:41.200 to take a quick break, but I want you to 233 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.120 hang on, Frank, because I want to explain some more 234 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:46.320 things in just a moment as to why that's different 235 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.120 and why differing views may have problems, and where that lands, 236 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.480 and why that's not just an ugly part of God 237 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:58.960 we've been talking with Frank. Frank, your question essentially is, 238 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:04.600 you know, does God respect all religions? And I know 239 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:13.919 you mentioned the Abrahammick belief systems, but ultimately it's very 240 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.039 human to go, you know, what God should be fair 241 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.080 and kind of give somebody a pass here, give somebody 242 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:22.120 a pass there. But if you read through scripture, the 243 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:26.399 whole problem lie lays in the fact that everybody wanted 244 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:29.519 to pass all the time, and the people of Israel 245 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:31.759 wanted to pass, and there was always well, can't we 246 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:33.960 just do this? Can't we just do that? There has 247 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:39.440 to be a right way. There has to be otherwise 248 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.480 you can't. If there's no right way, then you can't 249 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.639 do anything wrong. And if you can't do anything wrong 250 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:47.799 that there's no morality. There's no otness, there's no ethos, 251 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:50.759 there's no moraise, there's no there's none of that because 252 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:57.480 there's no implied should do or implied should not do? Right. 253 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:00.360 You kind of need that in life. 254 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:04.519 No, I think I do. But I think there are 255 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:08.360 people and other religions who are extremely moral and have 256 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:13.080 you know, very even strict moral codes, and are very 257 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:18.559 good people, and they're not contrary to even the ways 258 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.080 I act like a good Christian. 259 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:23.360 Okay, should be, Let's take it off of good person 260 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:27.080 because person is so ambiguous. It's really well, that means 261 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:28.960 you don't murder. Let's take it off that and say 262 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:33.320 a good soldier, Now if you said somebody was being 263 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:39.480 a good soldier. That would imply specific understandings, and no 264 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.639 longer you get out of the ambiguity of oh, well, 265 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.320 they're a good person, because nobody wants to judge what 266 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:47.559 a good person is. That's where the problem lies. That's 267 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:50.039 where your humanity comes in. Frank you don't want to 268 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:54.720 judge another person for being human. But God can. And 269 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.320 so if I say soldier, if I put one modifier, 270 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:00.759 or a good cook or a good chef and all 271 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:04.320 those those those things could be subjective. If you say 272 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:08.840 good baker, not really subjective because bakery is more science 273 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:11.759 based in the fact that it's it's very measurement focused, 274 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:14.679 in chemistry focused. But if you go through these things 275 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:16.279 and you say, oh, they're good this or get it. 276 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:19.759 Once you add a modifier, you feel it's okay to 277 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:21.519 define whether they're good at it or not. They're a 278 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:24.679 good mechanic, they're a good driver. But when you say 279 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:26.960 good person is where you get, Oh, I don't feel 280 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:30.080 I don't feel okay about defining that. But God can. 281 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:32.759 God can say it's you're not a good person because 282 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:35.840 you don't murder someone. There's more to it than that. 283 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:39.720 God is the author of those rules to begin with, 284 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:43.159 so God can say when they're applied properly or not. 285 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:46.840 Now you get into the different faiths. Yes, it seems 286 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:50.039 very awkward and rude as a human being to go 287 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:53.120 they're wrong. But you brought up the word sincere a 288 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:57.360 couple of times, and and you can be sincere and 289 00:15:57.399 --> 00:16:02.759 be sincerely wrong. And so that applies to many things, 290 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:09.639 including religion. And it's not about it's not about the belief. 291 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:13.919 It's about what you reject. And if you're rejecting God 292 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:20.840 on God's rules, God's wants, God's demands, then you're wrong. 293 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:26.120 So it's not about while Christians are better than Muslims, 294 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.480 or Muslims are better than Jews, it's not about that. 295 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:33.000 That's a human desire to want to say my club's 296 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:36.360 better than yours. You separate the club factor. It's not 297 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:39.879 about that. It's God saying this is how you get 298 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:43.519 in my house. Now, if that's like me saying that 299 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:46.000 it's weird that when you go to your house, Frank, 300 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.480 that people have to take their shoes off, that's like saying, well, 301 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:53.799 that's wrong, why would no, it's Frank's house. If you 302 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:57.559 want your visitors take their shoes off. That's right in 303 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:01.679 your house. Correct, correct, Because whether it's you know, some 304 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:04.359 silly reason, maybe you've got white carpet. I've never understood 305 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:06.440 white people get white carpet and then nobody's allowed to 306 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:08.920 walk on it. But let's say you have white carpet, Frank, 307 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:12.640 and you don't want anybody walking with their soiled feet 308 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:15.279 on it. You say, you take your shoes off. That's 309 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:19.559 your rule. Now you may not feel comfortable telling everybody 310 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.480 that that's wrong, but when it comes to your house 311 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:25.240 and who gets in your house, that's okay. And I'm saying, 312 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:29.799 when it comes to my house, which is Heaven, there's 313 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:36.440 one way in. That's the understand who I am. That's important. 314 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:38.440 Now you people say, oh, so you could be a 315 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:40.160 murder and do whatever, and all you got to understand 316 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:44.000 is Jesus is God. No, because if you understand that 317 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.400 Jesus is God, you're not going to be out murdering. 318 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:52.440 So people of other religions who have indeed heard your 319 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:56.279 name and know about you and reject it and reject 320 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:02.160 it are in fact not safe. And that's the story 321 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:02.640 for them. 322 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:05.480 Well, let me put it to you this way. If 323 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.480 if there's a grocery store at the end of main street. 324 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:11.960 And you tell them there's a grocery store at the 325 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:14.160 end of main street and they reject that. Will they 326 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:15.920 ever get to the grocery store at the end of 327 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:21.599 main street? Why is that difficult? That is not about 328 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:24.000 It's that people keep wanting to put the names in 329 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:26.480 the faces of these religions so that it pulls on 330 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.200 your heartstrings. You go, these are people. Of course, there 331 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.359 are many cults out there, and I'm not talking about 332 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:35.279 the mainstream religion. I'm talking about many factions and cults 333 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:40.839 filled with good people, but they're horrible, horrible belief systems 334 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:46.039 that are damaging to those individuals. And that's like, do 335 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:49.519 you want a sincere doctor or do you want an 336 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:55.359 educated and a doctor who's efficient. I mean, well, I 337 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.559 really really thought I could do brain surgery. I really 338 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:03.480 believed it. I really believed it. That's not what you want. 339 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:06.440 And so it's not just about those things. And I 340 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.000 know it sounds nasty because now because people think, well, 341 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:13.279 now it's Frank saying that his religion's right. No truth 342 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:15.359 is truth is truth. When you say two plus two 343 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:19.319 equals four, that's not Oh, Frank, says his math is right. No, 344 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:21.160 that's two plus two equals four. 345 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:27.279 Okay, So here we have I believe, accept and believe 346 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.920 everything you're saying. And from the get go I believe 347 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:36.039 in you. Now, for me personally, I don't seem to 348 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:42.160 have any particular you know, impetus to go out and evangelize. 349 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:46.000 I feel that if people have heard your name and 350 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:51.279 God knows you're you're you're everywhere and the news and 351 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:54.880 the churches and schools and everywhere. I don't I don't 352 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:57.920 feel the need to go out and everybody I need 353 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:02.920 say listen, you know I'm a Christian and this is 354 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:05.480 this is it and you should be and you know 355 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:09.960 so I don't know how to how to deal with that. 356 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.839 You know, well, Frank, let me tell you something. You 357 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:16.039 drive up in a beautiful car. What's the first thing? 358 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:20.000 And another guy says, hey, wow, that's beautiful. Where'd you 359 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:22.799 get it? How fast is it? Wants to know about 360 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:25.960 it immediately. If you lose weight, you come into work 361 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.960 losing thirty pounds, what's first thing? Someone says, Oh, my goodness, 362 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:34.759 how'd you do it? Someone who people life, they exactly 363 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:37.119 and it doesn't mean that you shouldn't share it. It 364 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:40.880 means that sometimes I hound Christians for being so darn 365 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:43.880 lazy because they prefer to talk about it rather than 366 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:46.200 do it in a way that inspires other people to 367 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:49.839 ask questions. One Peter three fifteen says, to sanctify Jesus's 368 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:53.960 Lord in your heart, be ready to give a defense, 369 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:56.720 to give an answer to those who ask about the 370 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:59.640 hope that lies within you, with meekness and reverence. Now, 371 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.720 now that is such a beautiful synopsis of the whole thing. First, 372 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:05.960 it's about God. God's got to be first in your 373 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:09.680 life individually. Second, live in a way that people want 374 00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:11.960 to ask you about who you are and why you 375 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.119 are the way you are, and be ready to give 376 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:17.279 them a legitimate answer when they ask, and always do 377 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:21.319 it in meekness and reverence. So being kind and respectful. 378 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.599 And when Christians we heard calls earlier would get people 379 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:29.559 that are being mean spirited or saying, well, this is 380 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:31.440 the truth. So I got to pound it. Could you 381 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:35.960 imagine if a teacher did that, the kid would reject it. Yeah. 382 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:39.200 So it's a matter of finding a balanced way, Frank, 383 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:43.000 to express these things. But I guarantee people desire to 384 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:46.279 know truth. They do. Everyone does. And if they see 385 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:49.440 you reacting to something truly, because remember it's not what 386 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:51.839 people say, it's not how they act, it's how they 387 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:54.519 react to something that really shows you the character of 388 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:57.799 who they are. And because they're taking off guard and 389 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:02.079 its spur the moment and they're reacting. And so when 390 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:04.839 they see you react painful things or through things in 391 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:08.960 your life or whatever you're going through, and you react 392 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:11.519 a certain way, they want to know, how can you 393 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:14.480 how can you deal with that that way? Or such 394 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:18.759 a great loss or pain? They will ask. You are 395 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.559 a walking marketing machine for your faith if you live 396 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:25.519 it properly. If you don't, then you got to talk 397 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:29.759 about it like those like an infomercial. But wait, there's more, 398 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.400 and it's licenses and dices and and everything else. And 399 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:36.559 they keep adding more information because they can't live live 400 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:41.440 up to it, and that demonstrative kind of execution of 401 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.000