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your support. All right, So, talking a little bit about education,

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came across a tweet from Brian Balfour, he is with

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the John Locke Foundation, talking about North Carolina education funding

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this morning, and he pointed out that in the last decade,

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total spending on North Carolina public schools increased by forty

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eight percent over ten years. Forty eight percent increase in

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public education funding, total enrollment growth. Oh, actually that's not true.

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It wasn't. It wasn't growth. It's down four and a

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half percent in the last decade. So while the number

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of students has declined, the number of or the amount

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of money has increased. Forty eight percent increase in funding

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and a four and a half percent decline in student enrollment.

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So It's not the money, folks, It's not the money, unless,

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of course, you want to make the argument that the

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school districts are spending the money on the wrong things, which,

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as I mentioned at the end of the last hour.

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You know, parents in Carlsbad, California did not like their

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money being used to bring in a science of BDSM

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expert named Mita Beach. I don't know if that's a

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plan on words, I really don't a self described BDSM expert.

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The parents requested that this event be canceled. The school

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denied their request to even sit in on the event

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or any other presentation, or even allow them to pull

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their kids out of this important educational event that would

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include god knows what about sexuality, sexually deviant behavior, or

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how best to get gender affirming care. Quote unquote, David

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Strom at hot air dot com says, after all, the

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kids might kill themselves if they missed out on Mita's

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body modification lesson. Yeah, because what Mita Beach quote teaches

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in the workshops kink one oh one? Examining self injurious behavior?

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What does that mean? Examine self mutilation, cutting yourself, hurting

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yourself right, Examining self injurious behavior, erotic play, and body modification,

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and so the parents were like, hey, can we can

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we attend this thing if you're not going to cancel it. So,

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in response to the parental complaints, the school reportedly doubled

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down on their position, claiming they will not provide any

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kind of an opt out for students and will not

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inform parents about speakers or let them on campus to

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hear the speakers. After the parents plan to attend the

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event anyway, the school notified them that the event was canceled. So, parents,

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that might be the way to do it right. That

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might be a tactic in the toolkit that you could

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use if you're being denied access to some program that

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you find objectionable like this. Within twenty four hours of

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the social media post and the news that the parents

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were to attend this event, Beach's appearance was canceled, but

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it still moved forward with at least two other speakers

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from other organizations that helped facilitate gender transitions and surgeries.

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David Strom says over the past couple of decades, we

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have seen a substantial increase in schools delving deeper and

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deeper into sexuality and gender identity issues, and all of

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this is part of a movement called Social and Emotional

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learning or SEL. It really took off over the last

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fifteen years or so. I was actually talking to a

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family member, my niece who's in college, and we were

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talking about some of this stuff while I was on

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vacation up in New York, and I tried to convey

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to her that you know, you don't You're the I

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told her, I said, you're the fish that doesn't know

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it's wet, because this is the only thing you've known.

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You grew up in all of this. But your dad

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and me, we remember fifteen years and before, before all

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of this stuff started just rolling out into the K

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twelve education scene. The claim is that SEL exists to

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support the mental health of children. But a funny thing

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happens when you look into the statistics. Suicide and suicidal

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ideation among students have skyrocketed along with the spread of SEL.

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He says, you cannot argue that SEL has done anything

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to improve mental health among kids, which has seen a

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sharp decline, especially in the past few years. I did

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have a message here from Russ. Oh two messages actually

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hang on a second. Russ says, you mentioned the mental

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health grants that are being frozen. I don't know if

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it's the same ones, but I had read that many

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states were taking grants from that awful Biden gun bill

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earmarked to address the mental health issues that lead to

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school shootings and the rise in depression and anxiety, and

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they were diverting the money to promote LGBTQ and especially

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the trans ideology. That would not surprise me. And also,

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Russ says in the other message regarding the school money,

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based on most recent reading proficiency, English learners really could

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be everybody, not just e SL students. That's no, that's

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fair terrible grades. Among Trump's first executive orders was one

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that barred the grooming of kids into destructive ideologies, and

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the schools and blue state politicians are now fighting back hard.

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Strom says, I suppose they want to protect their unblemished

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record in improving child mental health and stuff. Okay, so

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much so that they don't even they don't want even

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pesky parents to know what they are doing or to

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have a say in whether their kids are subjected. I mean,

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education hated with the brainwashing BDSM training for the kids.

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Russ mentioned the grades. A couple of months ago, Helen

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Raleigh at the Federalist dot Com took a look at

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the National Assessment of Educational Progress test results. This is

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the NAPE scores and AEP known as the nation's report card. Okay.

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It assesses the reading and math skills of America's fourth

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graders and eighth graders. The reading and math scores of

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students in Mississippi and Louisiana have surpassed those in California

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and New York. When I grew up the New York

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high school diploma system, they had tracks. We had tracks.

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There was first track AP basically second track that was

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the middle of the curve. Most of the kids were there.

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But you could get a region's diploma, and that region's

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diploma meant something because it meant that you were taking

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solid coursework, challenging stuff, minimum requirements and all that. And

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then there was the local diploma. If you did not

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get the regents or you didn't go for the AP,

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then you would be in. You would just get a

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local diploma, not a region's diploma. Well, apparently that system's

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now trash to heavily Republican states and among the poorest

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in the nation. Mississippi and Louisiana have surpassed California and

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New York. New York I think spends somewhere close to

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forty thousand dollars per pupil per year. The secret of

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Mississippi and Louisiana's educational success is not actually a secret.

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You may be shocked to learn this. It's about returning

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to the fundamentals and following the evidence. Mississippi's Republican led

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legislature has implemented effective education reforms starting back in twenty twelve.

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They prioritized phonics, which teaches kids to read by sounding

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out the word, and they have a policy for retaining

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or holding back third graders who do not meet essential

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reading benchmarks. By the way, this is something that the

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left has talked about for a long time. Education progressives

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in the education industry they talk about the school to

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prison pipeline. This is one of those data points. Kids

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who do not achieve at grade level in reading at

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grade three are way more likely to be in prison

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when they're adults or before, but not in Mecklenburg obviously

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way more likely. So if you can make the kid

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at grade level grade three, they got better prospects for

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the rest of their education, career, and the rest of

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their life. Why wouldn't you do that? All right? If

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media landscape more transparent. Alrighty, So this story at the

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Federalist dot com about the Mississippi Miracle and the Louisiana Miracle.

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But I guess I don't know. Louisiana is I guess

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a little bit behind Mississippi on this, but they both

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now have higher reading scores and math scores than California

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and New York and they are like among the poorest,

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if not the poorest, in the country. And what they

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did was in twenty twelve, they prioritized phonics, teaching kids

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to sound out words because it works, it always did work,

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worked for the vast majority of students, rather than adopting

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the whole language model that then broke everybody's brains. And

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then we find out later years later. I covered this

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when the story came out, the interview with the woman

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who created it, and she was like, oh, yeah, I

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don't even know if it works, Like, oh okay. But

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the reason why this happens is that every like ten

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or fifteen years, you get this overhaul in K twelve

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education circles and the cottage industry that surrounds this industry,

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and they sell their crap to the K twelve edocrats, Oh,

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we got to get new books, We have to do

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new teacher trainings, right, because they make money off of

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all of that stuff. So if you have a program,

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you have a model that works, it's not in their

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interest to continue that model because once you get the

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software or you get the books, you get the training,

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you don't need it anymore. And now you don't need

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them anymore. Also, they implemented and enforced a retention policy

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for third graders who do not meet essential reading benchmarks. Also,

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the state invests fifteen million dollars each year, which is

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about thirty two dollars a student, into training teachers on

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literacy and providing dedicated reading coaches in schools. That's it.

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Thirty two bucks a kid and you two can have

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these kinds of results. Now will large districts like cms

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will they look to the Mississippi miracle and say, hey,

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maybe we should do that. I doubt it. Mississippi's fourth

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grader's reading scores went from forty ninth in the nation

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back in twenty thirteen. They are now at the top.

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So in eleven years they went from second to last

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to number one reading scores. Governor Tate Reeves said, the

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state's black fourth graders have improved from forty fifth in

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the nation to third place, a learning gain equivalent to

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a full year of schooling and an extra year of schooling. Moreover,

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the state's graduation rate has seen a significant rise, going

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from seventy two percent back in twenty thirteen. It's now

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at eighty nine point nine percent, or ninety percent last year.

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The Mississippi miracle. Governor Reeves declared in an interview that

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the education out comes in his state is really not

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a miracle at all. It's really a result of conservative

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reforms implemented in public education. He said. So Louisiana, because

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it's so close to Mississippi, they could see it just

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by standing on their tiptoes, and they were like, hey,

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why don't we do that. That looks like it's working

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right there. So they implemented similar education reforms they did theirs.

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In twenty nineteen, the state focused on phonics instruction and

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providing content rich literacy curriculums. Additionally, Louisiana has invested in

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training programs for principles teachers and reading coaches on teaching

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kids how to learn to read. It was the only

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state Louisiana was the only state where fourth grade reading

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scores were higher last year than they were five years ago.

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What does that mean? Every other state saw a decline

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in reading scores over the last five years, which makes

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sense because there was COVID and we had to lock

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all the kids in their homes and such. The California

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reading scores for fourth and eighth graders have plummeted yet again.

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Last year. They remained lower than those in twenty seventeen,

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lower last year than five years prior. While there was

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a slight improvement in fourth grade math scores, they still

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lag behind the scores from five years ago. California's experiments

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with alternatives to teaching phonics, despite extensive research that phonics

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works best, have obviously failed. Obviously, less than half of

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all public school students in California met state grade level

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standards for English Language Arts, which is what they call

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it now reading ELA. Forty seven percent can can meet

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the grade level standard for reading. The reading scores of

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Black and Spanic students are even worse. Thirty percent of

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Black students and thirty six percent of Hispanic students are

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at grade level. So tell me who actually cares about

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the kids who actually cares particularly right about minority kids

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who's closing the achievement gap? How are they doing it right?

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If if you can't identify the answers in this piece

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that I have just given you, I would submit you

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should be nowhere near K twelve education. Here's a great idea.

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California and New York when it comes to education outcomes,

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Mississippi and Louisiana now doing better than California and New

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York despite the two Democrat controlled states spending way more

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money but doing really stupid things and the Mississippi Miracle

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it's been dubbed, which isn't really even a miracle at all.

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It's just using the models that have worked in the past.

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Legislation requiring schools to implement more phonics based reading curricula

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failed to pass in California's legislature last year. Why good question,

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Want to take a guess I'll give you three guesses.

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First two don't count. That's right. It's the unions, right,

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the unions didn't think about that. Why Why on earth

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would you be opposed to using phonics. This was primarily

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due to opposition from Democrat party leadership, teachers, unions, and

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advocacy groups, so leftists. The San Francisco Chronicle editorial board lamented, quote,

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the California childhood literacy rates have fallen significantly beneath those

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of the poorest states in the nation should be considered

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a stain on progressive values. This state claims to stand

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for no, no, no, no, no. That's the These are

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the progressive values because the performance, the merit doesn't matter.

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And you know what if that means kids don't know

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how to read and do math and you damn them

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to a life of either prison or poverty, well, you

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know you got to break some eggs to make the omelet,

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the utopian omelet, the perfect omelet. Editorial board said, insuring

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Californian kids receive the most effective reading lessons didn't even

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merit a discussion among Democrats in the face of union opposition.

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And then there's this from Nicole Russell. This was at

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USA today. Yesterday, k twelve students in America lag peers

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in other industrialized countries in math and reading skills, and

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they've hit a new low. And while students struggle in

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core subjects, many parents say their children have been indoctrinated

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with a liberal political bias. If you doubt that last point,

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she says, listen to the NEAs. That's the Teachers' Union

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National Education Association's Teacher of the Year. I watched this

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woman's speech. It was her name is Ashley or cross

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On or Croissant, and anyway, she delivered her speech that

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hailed education as a political endeavor. That was her speech.

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She's an English teacher at Mifflin County High School in Lewistown, Pennsylvania,

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and said what teachers want is the same as what

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students want. No, No, I know, I don't think that's accurate.

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I think that if you were to draw a Kamala

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Harris approved ven diagram, there would be some overlapping of

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the circles. But it's not all the same obviously. I mean,

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a kindergartener doesn't care about whether or not she's going

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to get a pension, you know, the teacher does stuff

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like that. But anyway, crossing or Croissant told her fellow

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union members, quote, what's good for educators is what's good

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for students. The best way to advocate or our students,

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truly is to advocate for ourselves. Oh my gosh, you

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narcissistic sociopath. No, you are not the same as the

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kids your interests, and the way to advocate for kids

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is not to advocate for yourself. Okay, you are a

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different person. Stop trying to live vicariously through these kids,

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or to try to use them as props to get

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what you want. It's understandable that the NEA's Teacher of

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the Year is pro union, obviously, but the idea that

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the same things that are good for teachers and their

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unions are also good for students that is utter nonsense.

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Exhibit a my previous story from The Federalist about the

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Mississippi miracle. Unions actually shield their members from the consequences

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of poor performance and even bad behavior. How does that

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help students. Croissant also said teaching is a political endeavor,

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and it always has been so. Now that the NEA's

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Teacher of the Year admits this, maybe lefties, you can

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stop attacking me when I say that because I've been

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saying that for years. Obviously, obviously K twelve education is

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being used to promote political ideology. Has been my schooling.

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When I was in school, I remember it. I would

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have arguments with teachers about it. I know that's hard

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to believe, but it's true. I would have arguments with

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teachers about them injecting politics. Had a had a this

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was in college, I will say this. I had a

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professor who made us read a book and I forget

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the name of the book now, but it was a

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book by or about the Vietnam War. And the final exam,

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she gives us a multiple choice essay question why why

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was America destined to lose the Vietnam War? And then

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she gave you know, was it? This? Was it? This?

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Was it? This? And the correct answer was none of

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the above. She did a trick question on us on

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the final exam, and the reason why is because none

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of the above the right answer, according to her, because

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she was a leftist who was like hungover after Bill

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Clinton one election came to class, though, I will say,

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but it was a short class. She cut it short

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because she was hungover. Anyway, she she made the answer

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it was an unwinnable war because it was a people's war.

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That was the right answer, according to her, but she

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didn't offer that as one of the options to write about.

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Education should not be political and certainly not partisan. But

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according to the Pew Research Center, about sixty percent of

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teachers identify with or leaned toward the Democrat Party. The

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NEA's partisanship has grown so extreme that even the union

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admitted that it has to do a better job of

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representing its Republican members. Randy Weingarten, remember this, a couple

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of weeks ago, president of the American Federation of Teachers Union.

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She served as a member of the Democrat National Committee

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for more than two decades, and she resigned in June.

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And don't tell me that what's good for students is

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good for teachers and vice versa. So we're all the same.

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And to advocate for kids, truly, you got to advocate

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for teachers because the teachers' unions, I'm old enough to remember,

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pushed to keep the schools closed, which was not in

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Or come on, it's k umn. I don't know which

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Phonics and math memorization, that's the key. Yeah, I tend

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to agree. Oh, and then there was this Teresa Opeka

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at the Carolina Journal. This is hilarious over if you

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go to the website of the North Carolina Governor Josh

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Stein and look at the very top of his web

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page again, it's back, everybody. At the very top of

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the website page, there's a red bar across the whole top,

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and there's a little exclamation point in a triangle, and

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it says a state of emergency for public education. Governor

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Cooper has declared that wait, what that's right? It says

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Governor Cooper has declared that public education in North Carolina

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is facing a state of emergency and de urges North

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Carolinians to contact legislators read more about how to protect

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public schools, and then there's a link. It's literally the

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banner from my good friend Ray Cooper's his his stunt

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of emergency is what I called it, because it wasn't

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an actual state of emergency. But he declared quote unquote

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a state of emergency for public education because he wanted

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more money to go to K twelve spending than what

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the Republican legislature had allocated. And so he has a

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big press conference and declares a stunt of emergency or

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state of emergency. It was a stunt. There wasn't an

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actual state of emergency. He literally So now you got

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Josh Stein up there, who literally does the exact same thing,

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to the point where they just copied and pasted Cooper's thing.

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And when you go there, yeah, here it is. Teresa

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Opika follows up. Governor Cooper had the banner on his

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web page when the state legislators pushed for and got

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opportunity scholarships for parents to send their children to schools

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of their choice. And if you click on the banner,

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it has all of the old information about the general

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Assembly wanting to make the quote unquote cuts. Yeah, there

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you go, that's our governor, Josh Stein. Good lord, what

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a joke. Then you've got Oh, this was interesting. I

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did not know. I guess the NAACP. I guess they

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paid for a whole bunch of sponsorships over at the

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Charlotte Observer because man, like you go over onto that website,

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the Charlotte Observer website, and it's just like they became

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the press shop for the NAACP, which is in town.

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So I understand why you've got a bunch of stories there,

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but I mean, this is a little bit over the top.

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You know, you're just you're quoting everybody in their panel

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discussions and you're not doing any kind of pushback or anything.

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It's you're just acting as stenographers for this event. So

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one of the stories, one of the many stories that

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they churned out of this event. NAACP events call for

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pro union voting in the North Carolina midterm elections. Labor

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unions speaking on Monday, called for attendees to vote for

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candidates who are in favor of labor unions in the

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upcoming North Carolina midterm elections. In other words, Democrats right,

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they're out there politicking for Democrats. By the way, they

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did not invite Donald Trump to attend, which in years past,

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I think they've always invited the presidents to attend, and

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they did not invite Trump. The afl CIOs nationwide bus

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Tour began here in Charlotte. The name of the tour

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is quote, it's a better union. Sorry, it's better in

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a union fighting for freedom, fairness and security. Bus Tour. Okay,

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that's the name of it. Guys might want to work

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on that. It's it's not very memorable anyway. It began

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on July ninth, first off at the annual convention here

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in Charlotte. Altogether, the bus tour will visit twenty six

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states over the next two months, using three buses. That's

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what your dues are being used for. Charles Clark, Southern

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Regional director for the National afl CIO, said the tourist

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mission is to bring awareness to how labor workers are

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being affected by the Trump administration. He said the executive

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orders firing federal workers and ending the Collective Bargaining Agreement,

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along with the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, are some

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of the changes that most affect them. Did you see,

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by the way, the layoffs at the State Department. You

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see those videos, these people walking out like they're being

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celebrated and applauded, and they're weeping in the streets and

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look full disclosure. As a radio industry veteran now for

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almost thirty years, I have seen a lot of mass firings.

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I have been part of mass firings. Nobody gets this

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kind of Nobody gets this kind of riff party. On

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the way out the door, You're lucky if you get

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a box to put your stuff in. All right, that'll

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do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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I could not do the show without your support and

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the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast,

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so if you'd like, please support them too and tell

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patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again,

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.

