Speaker 1: Okay, we'll live.
Speaker 2: Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates
Speaker 2: on today's show of a very special guest. Very somebody
Speaker 2: has done really excellent research. His name, his memory Hold,
Speaker 2: came to my attention. I've been trying to go through
Speaker 2: all of his research on bit shoot. I got through
Speaker 2: a three part series that he was involved in the
Speaker 2: research of the title of that is Elite Human Trafficking
Speaker 2: Volume one and two and three. So I recommend people
Speaker 2: check those out on bit shoot. I'll put the links
Speaker 2: in the description. But he's also done a bunch of
Speaker 2: other research, some of which I saw in Odyssey. He
Speaker 2: was censored like me, so it was hard for me
Speaker 2: to kind of go back through all of his research,
Speaker 2: but he can talk more about that. I'm familiar with
Speaker 2: what's known as Pizzagate, which I don't think is a
Speaker 2: great term for really that what happened and what developed
Speaker 2: out of the drop from Julian Assange through wiki leagues
Speaker 2: of Hillary's emails and people allowing to research which what
Speaker 2: happened and very much influenced the twenty sixteen election and
Speaker 2: should have been something similar should have happened with Hunter
Speaker 2: Biden's emails have been put on Wiki leaks or something
Speaker 2: like that, which was a strategic blunder of epic proportions
Speaker 2: by the Trump campaign to not get those out anyway.
Speaker 2: That's my position. I'm delighted to have Memory. It's Memory hold.
Speaker 2: There's a different little hominin there, but it's E M
Speaker 2: R Y H O L D, and I'm glad. I'm
Speaker 2: delighted that he's here. So welcome Memory.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the Hunter Biden stuff, what a blunder. That really
Speaker 1: was right. I've never seen anything like it. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, for a moment, we had a golden opportunity,
Speaker 1: but then the range ban on the links, you couldn't
Speaker 1: even share them. It was wild. Some of the most
Speaker 1: wild things I've seen since twenty sixteen in terms of
Speaker 1: it was really crazy.
Speaker 2: And I think that's true. They really anticipated something like
Speaker 2: the Hillary Clinton emails. Trump's people thought they were going
Speaker 2: to have Hillary Clinton email Part two. They were censored,
Speaker 2: but they bunk. I still think they've bungled because they
Speaker 2: should have put it up on their own kind of sites.
Speaker 2: They did something through some Chinese guy who was friends
Speaker 2: with Bannon. Yeah, they made a mistake because there's just
Speaker 2: researchers and people really just interested in the truth who
Speaker 2: would look through those like I went through Hillary Clinton's
Speaker 2: emails and really ferret out and put together what's going on.
Speaker 2: So really strange days. So can you talk to people
Speaker 2: how you got into research and kind of the arc
Speaker 2: of what you've looked through. I have stuff on here
Speaker 2: that I really want to talk to you about about
Speaker 2: Peter Biden, DC to do true the ties between NEXIM
Speaker 2: and Pizzagate, and there's just a lot of lot here
Speaker 2: to mind. So can you talk about the background and
Speaker 2: what led you to this up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely so. I will say that I'm probably a
Speaker 1: little bit newer in this game than many of you,
Speaker 1: perhaps even some of you watching. I only got into
Speaker 1: this in twenty sixteen, and I was staunchly against much
Speaker 1: of it, to be quite honest with you, had twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen and those events never happened, those email links, if
Speaker 1: those never happened, I might have been watching a show
Speaker 1: such as this and been quite against the idea of it,
Speaker 1: thinking it was a conspiracy theory, think it gets baseless.
Speaker 1: And I had just continuously heard these Podesta emails, these
Speaker 1: Podesta emails, and I got sick of hearing about them.
Speaker 1: I got sick of hearing about them. So one day
Speaker 1: I finally decided to sit down and see what they
Speaker 1: were all about myself. Right, what do you know, critical thinking,
Speaker 1: Let me see what's going on, right? And as soon
Speaker 1: as I did that, I realized that there is a
Speaker 1: reason that these people were talking about it. And I
Speaker 1: was then introduced to the alternative platforms that were crowdsourcing
Speaker 1: the research within those Podesta emails. And these were sites
Speaker 1: I had never heard of, because once again, I had
Speaker 1: been so called, you know, a sleep up until that point.
Speaker 1: So I was being funneled through these more mainstream websites
Speaker 1: that were staunchly against ideas such as this. So as
Speaker 1: soon as I saw the crowdsourced research going on, gathering
Speaker 1: information through the Podesta emails, documenting not so much like
Speaker 1: maybe the crimes within them, but the rules being broken
Speaker 1: within them, the election questions being fed to Hillary early,
Speaker 1: things like these, things that should not be happening but
Speaker 1: are very important, I realized that this is where I
Speaker 1: belong is with this group. And then the advent of
Speaker 1: what came to be known Unfortunately, as pzz Gag came,
Speaker 1: and I was there from the very very beginning of that,
Speaker 1: when we first started discovering some strange things that people's
Speaker 1: curiosity down that line. I was there for when they
Speaker 1: started to pigeonhole us into the whole comet ping pong
Speaker 1: basement nonsense. I was even in the threads that were
Speaker 1: kind of debating guides we should really focus on more
Speaker 1: about the Haiti Laura Silsby connection side of things and
Speaker 1: how this connects back to the Podesta gag as opposed
Speaker 1: to simply just this pizza place in DC comment and
Speaker 1: unfortunately we lost out and they decided to go further
Speaker 1: with only the comet ping pong angles. So that's just
Speaker 1: a little bit of how I got started. I was
Speaker 1: doing a little you know, I was somewhat knowledgeable on
Speaker 1: certain topics before then. I was I had a baseline
Speaker 1: knowledge of September eleventh attacks, you know, alternative theories on that.
Speaker 1: You know, I knew that there were some fishy things
Speaker 1: with that, but nowhere near the level of vigor that
Speaker 1: I put in post twenty sixteen. And I still have
Speaker 1: a lot to learn, you know, so I'm trying to
Speaker 1: quick catch up make up for lost time as quickly
Speaker 1: as I can, because I'm late to the game, but
Speaker 1: I'm trying my best to contribute, hopefully make up for
Speaker 1: the fact that I doubted you guys all this time.
Speaker 2: And so when you started kind of looking through pizzagate,
Speaker 2: what kind of stuff did or what's called pizza ga?
Speaker 2: What did you discover? I know you have a pretty
Speaker 2: much broader understanding of that whole phenomenon, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: than a lot of people do. Can you explain or
Speaker 2: expound at what you discovered?
Speaker 1: Sure? Yeah, So the beginning, people like to focus on
Speaker 1: the so called code terms, the food language within the emails,
Speaker 1: that those were really just an introduction, right. People look
Speaker 1: at the heated pool email where they're inviting kids to
Speaker 1: be in this heated pool for entertainment. They talk about
Speaker 1: the dominoes on cheese with pastas if it's code terms,
Speaker 1: and these coaches are these words may very well be,
Speaker 1: but we can never confirm that, We can never confirm
Speaker 1: the intention of the writers. It's the main issue is
Speaker 1: when you continuously look into the people writing the emails
Speaker 1: that have other media, other sources, other posting, other images
Speaker 1: that have these weird sexual innuendos regarding children that things
Speaker 1: become concerning, and it's then that you then begin to
Speaker 1: connect these people to the likes of Jeffrey Epstein. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say they're direct connections, right, other
Speaker 1: than the fact that, of course Podesto is Hillary Clinton's
Speaker 1: campaign chairman and Hillary Clinton Bill Clinton Epstein that's far
Speaker 1: more direct. But there's even other connections to mc square,
Speaker 1: such which is John Luke Burnell's modeling agency that supplied
Speaker 1: the girls to Jeffrey Epstein. He is peripherally connected to
Speaker 1: someone in James Alaphontas's social circle, James Alafontas being the
Speaker 1: real arbiter of pizza Gate to begin with, then.
Speaker 2: At one point one of the top fifty most influential
Speaker 2: people in watching in DC.
Speaker 1: Right, Absolutely, yeah, that's exactly what he was listed as.
Speaker 1: And here's the ironic part of the fact that the
Speaker 1: media wanted to paint him as simply a lowly pizza
Speaker 1: shop owner that was a victim of a false story,
Speaker 1: while simultaneously, if you look back in time, I think
Speaker 1: it was like GQ that put him as one of
Speaker 1: the top fiftieth most powerful people and the media pretended
Speaker 1: to not know who he is. However, if you go
Speaker 1: back in time, he is attending parties with big names
Speaker 1: in the media. This guy is brokering multimillion dollar art deals.
Speaker 1: This is not a small fry in any shape of
Speaker 1: the word. You don't make a pizza shop and then
Speaker 1: suddenly start visiting the White House multiple times. And that's
Speaker 1: who James aliphontis is. They want to tell him, tell
Speaker 1: us he's a small fry, but he's actually quite the opposite. Right.
Speaker 2: He was on Diners, drive ins, and dives. He's associated
Speaker 2: with the highest level of people in the culinary industry.
Speaker 2: So he's mixing in all these things. And I think
Speaker 2: that's really what opened up the Hillary Clinton emails when
Speaker 2: they saw is Instagram posts. And you did a lot
Speaker 2: of research on Instagram. Can you talk about what you found?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely so. Regarding Instagram, I discovered that it stretches
Speaker 1: further than just your average you know, the James Alafonta stuff.
Speaker 1: There are normal child modeling agencies that serve as essentially
Speaker 1: front companies in my opinion, and even worse, I've seen
Speaker 1: pages that seem to be mothers advertising their children through
Speaker 1: these through these modeling agencies, These these gymnastics companies. It's
Speaker 1: it's the most disgusting thing that you can ever see
Speaker 1: in your life. And they'll say that the pages mom monitor,
Speaker 1: they always have that little disclaimer at the top right,
Speaker 1: which means limited comments. Not everyone can comment, only followers
Speaker 1: can comment. Those are actually some of the worst pages
Speaker 1: that you can ever imagine. And I found one, and
Speaker 1: this is where I knew I was on the right track.
Speaker 1: I found one modeling agency that was called mile High Models,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, you know, who names a child
Speaker 1: modeling agency after a sexual innuendo, right, mile high club
Speaker 1: being you.
Speaker 2: Know first, right, But it also talks about mile high
Speaker 2: being you're traveling in an airplane exactly.
Speaker 1: So there you go. There's two of them right there,
Speaker 1: back to back as sexual innuendo and transportation. Right. So
Speaker 1: you look further into that, and I discovered that, you know,
Speaker 1: I think these people are being these children are being
Speaker 1: abused in some way, shape or form. So I was
Speaker 1: always making reports about them, you know, just general tips,
Speaker 1: saying maybe you should check this out. I'm not a
Speaker 1: law enforcement officer, I'm not a professional investigator, but check
Speaker 1: it out. And sure enough, one of the one of
Speaker 1: the children that was in that Mile High Model Agency.
Speaker 1: I mean the guy that made that company. He got
Speaker 1: arrested for sending lud photos back and forth. There was
Speaker 1: articles about it. Human trafficking stopped in Hearne County and
Speaker 1: it was his face was plastered all over the place.
Speaker 1: So it's like I knew, what was his name? Interrupt
Speaker 1: It was Isy Evans, short for Ishmael Evans. Yes, so
Speaker 1: he's not really too much on the radar of too
Speaker 1: much of anything. He was just an Instagram guy. He
Speaker 1: was a small company too, but that's the issue where
Speaker 1: he's just big enough to be able to get these attention,
Speaker 1: get these kids, get these girls into his group. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's just small enough to sort of evade detection,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: So that was one of them. So, but there's other
Speaker 2: weird things, references in those instagrams and friends and even
Speaker 2: in the things there was Lozato I think you mentioned her.
Speaker 2: Three kids were mentioned in the Podesta emails as like
Speaker 2: we're going to be in a pool, like very like
Speaker 2: non kind of benign, but like we're in the pool,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be there. I'm assuring you they're going to
Speaker 2: be in the pool.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very.
Speaker 2: Weird and there was also a reference. There was another
Speaker 2: email that said I have a map with a cankerchief
Speaker 2: on Domino's or something weird like that, but it was
Speaker 2: a map is a neologism. It's a new term for pedophilia.
Speaker 2: Minor attracted person. Right, sounds better than calling somebody a pedophile.
Speaker 1: That's incorrect.
Speaker 2: There's tons of little kids and weird stuff all over
Speaker 2: those instagrams and those connections as well.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, the pizza related map. I think you left
Speaker 1: a handkerchief here. It seems to be pizza related? Is
Speaker 1: it yours? And it's like, so, why isn't hank Why
Speaker 1: is a handkerchief important enough to have an email sent
Speaker 1: about it? Hey? Is this your handkerchief? Let me eat? Like,
Speaker 1: what are we going to do? Send it to you
Speaker 1: by postal? It's a handkerchief, you know what's so important
Speaker 1: about a handkerchief? How is it pizza related? And how
Speaker 1: is a map? How is there a pizza related map
Speaker 1: on it? So, of course you're right, that's where the
Speaker 1: acronym map comes in. Minor attracted person. That's the new
Speaker 1: euphemism that virtuous pedophiles have been using nowadays. And the
Speaker 1: heated pool email to Maria Lozato's she was the former
Speaker 1: either the head or close to it of the Pew
Speaker 1: Charitable Trust.
Speaker 2: It's incredible that the Pew Charitable Trust comes in because
Speaker 2: I've just done other research into Pew Charitable Trusts with
Speaker 2: Michael Bennett book, right, and they're into all kinds of stuff,
Speaker 2: and he's hanging out at Bohemian Grove.
Speaker 1: There you go and Tamara, you know, she has the website.
Speaker 1: It doesn't just stop at the heated pool emails, right,
Speaker 1: So it's odd that she specifies the age in that email,
Speaker 1: saying the pool. You know the kids are going to
Speaker 1: be in that pool for sure. Bonnie Mave and the.
Speaker 2: Third shut all the details down.
Speaker 1: Exactly uber service. We're gonna uber service them to you.
Speaker 1: She's eleven, she's nine, she's seven. But then you go
Speaker 1: to her website and you know she straight up mentions,
Speaker 1: if you know, if you want to see these little
Speaker 1: girls roun uncut for an hour, it's for premium subscribers
Speaker 1: on life.
Speaker 2: It's like, so there's all these euphemisms, there's there's all
Speaker 2: of your research, there's like inside nomenclature that people kind
Speaker 2: of know what the outsiders don't get but they're just
Speaker 2: all telling inside joking. Somebody researched her kid those kids.
Speaker 2: Did you ever hear that? They were names of people
Speaker 2: from some kind of show or something, So they're not
Speaker 2: really her kids, they're fake names.
Speaker 1: You know. I've heard different variants of that, and some
Speaker 1: were very attractive to me in the sense that, like
Speaker 1: I never knew what to believe. I did really I
Speaker 1: didn't hear anything about the show, but I know the
Speaker 1: alternative theories you're talking about, and I wouldn't discard them
Speaker 1: right off the bat either. In fact, now that you've
Speaker 1: reminded me, I might actually go back and but it's
Speaker 1: all that's.
Speaker 2: Just like might just expanding on my point is that
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of inside weird stuff going on that
Speaker 2: is not normal.
Speaker 1: No, not normal at all. And it's consistent themes too
Speaker 1: across the board. It's always with children. It's always sexual
Speaker 1: in nuendo with these children, and just weird phrasing language
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't use in relationship to kids, and it
Speaker 1: always has something to do with the people that are
Speaker 1: within this group. That area's secondhand disconnected from actual confirms
Speaker 1: human traffickers like John of God, you know, like Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 1: like Jean Luke Burnell, and that's where the real concern
Speaker 1: comes in.
Speaker 2: Right, So, yeah, of God is friends with Marina ab Barbarmovic.
Speaker 2: And that's in your one that this video humans the
Speaker 2: human sex trafficking one two and three, that you did
Speaker 2: the reach for elite, right, human trafficking one two and three.
Speaker 2: I recommend people go to bitch you and check that
Speaker 2: out so you can see Marina Barbaramovitch who did the
Speaker 2: spirit cooking, hang out with the Yo of God who
Speaker 2: is doing unspeakable acts. And the person who got revealed
Speaker 2: came out and said, you know, this is what's going on.
Speaker 2: She was dead within a week. I heard the rumor
Speaker 2: was a very elite, but a very elite yacht stopped
Speaker 2: off in Spain. Somebody got off, she was dead. They
Speaker 2: got back on the boat and left, very elite style,
Speaker 2: you know, suicide Arcanic side or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't doubt it at all. And it's
Speaker 1: just you know, you've also got Naomi Campbell, also a
Speaker 1: big Epstein person, right, She's flying back and forth in
Speaker 1: order to see John of God as well.
Speaker 2: So it's like this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so these people, well it looks to me
Speaker 1: to be a singular sell of people that are just
Speaker 1: recycling new people back and forth in between these main
Speaker 1: trafficking points. Right.
Speaker 2: So, Virginia Giuffrey wrote her biography and she remembered on
Speaker 2: a certain point that she went to Diamie Campbell's birthday
Speaker 2: in France and people said she's vocal of Boloney and
Speaker 2: then they found pictures of her with Epstein Maxwell.
Speaker 1: And precisely, precisely, yep, absolutely, So it goes deep like that.
Speaker 1: So when people that's what we were talking about right before
Speaker 1: the show is there's a reason that they want us
Speaker 1: to focus on the pizza place on the basement because
Speaker 1: that just is about as narrow of a scope as
Speaker 1: you can get, when in reality, it's all of this.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can connect. I mean Alifontas is lawyer
Speaker 1: Max mcabee is on the board of directors for the
Speaker 1: orphanage that Laura Stillsby abducted children from in Haiti's there's
Speaker 1: too many. That's not even a coincidence. That's just a direct,
Speaker 1: almost a nearly direct.
Speaker 2: Correct right, No, it's incredible. And then on the Instagram
Speaker 2: people are commenting on his site, who are US attorneys Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like, so these lawyers are like, oh, hey, this
Speaker 2: is really cool, and they never mentioned anything unethical or
Speaker 2: anything like that. So the connections are just incredible. Can
Speaker 2: you talk more about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, I believe it was like they said the
Speaker 1: guy's name was Aaron Row. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: pronouncing it correctly. Yeah, I forget exactly. That's that's an
Speaker 1: angle I haven't looked into for a while. But you
Speaker 1: are correct in this sense that like, these aren't just
Speaker 1: nobody's commenting on Ali Fontas's work. I mean, we also
Speaker 1: have people like that work in embassies, US embassies, Italian
Speaker 1: embassies commenting on his work. We have multiple high ranking
Speaker 1: people commenting on his Instagram work, including Aaron Raw, including
Speaker 1: you know, a guy named Celadon that actually works at
Speaker 1: an embassy. You know, there's just multiple high level people
Speaker 1: that do this, and we're led to believe that he
Speaker 1: just has no connection and any of these people, and
Speaker 1: he's just nothing. He's a pizza guy, and and that's it.
Speaker 1: Stop right there. You know, when it's the complete opposite
Speaker 1: of that, complete opposite of it. You wouldn't be hanging
Speaker 1: with these people if it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Right, and his boyfriend was David Brock, who was friends
Speaker 2: with Barney Frank, who owned who ran a gay prostitution
Speaker 2: ring or allegedly right, I don't know whether it was
Speaker 2: ever found to be the case, and people were talking
Speaker 2: about it. Says if you guys exposed me, I will
Speaker 2: expose all of you, right, kind of did a little
Speaker 2: counter blackmail threat. I don't know if he ever went
Speaker 2: to jail about that. So there's pictures of those guys together,
Speaker 2: Brock and Barney Frank. I don't know if you know
Speaker 2: if Barney Frank's around her alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good question, good question. Yeah. But and you know,
Speaker 1: it's like just the very fact that when you start
Speaker 1: considering what the real image, the big picture comes into
Speaker 1: frame here is when you see the interlocking connections to
Speaker 1: the main purveyors, right what John God, Laura Silsby, thet is,
Speaker 1: James Lafontis even is at folder as well, their friends.
Speaker 1: So it's like if you put all these people together,
Speaker 1: that's when you start to realize that you've got sort
Speaker 1: of like a little nexus, like a little network happening, right,
Speaker 1: and everything else that we're seeing those random innuendos, those
Speaker 1: sexual innuendos. It does seem to be people that are
Speaker 1: peripherally involved, but in the nose, so to speak. I
Speaker 1: mean that's why by get, I can never prove it
Speaker 1: without a shadow of doubt. But I think we've proven
Speaker 1: that there is undoubtedly smoke in this situation.
Speaker 2: No doubt. I think there was enough to marry a
Speaker 2: legal investigation that never Absolutely it was incredible. I mean
Speaker 2: in all these people, there's like rich people hanging out
Speaker 2: with Obama. I mean it just goes on. It just
Speaker 2: the connections just jaw dropping. Can you talk about the
Speaker 2: connection between uh DC to do tro that video?
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: The way that works is we know that Marina Abramovic
Speaker 1: is connected closely with the Tony Podesta and John Podesta. Now,
Speaker 1: both of the Podesta's are very tight with James Lafontas
Speaker 1: of Comet Ping Pong. Now when Dutroux comes in is
Speaker 1: the fact that Marina Abramovic and Alafonts are both tight
Speaker 1: with one of the individuals that were in the dutroux
Speaker 1: X dossiers aka the list of individuals that were a
Speaker 1: list of people that were apparently engaged in the sex ring,
Speaker 1: the pedophile ring that Dutreaux was either snatching children from
Speaker 1: assisting and operating and why does his name leave me
Speaker 1: for this moment.
Speaker 2: I'll you can look for it, but I'll work in
Speaker 2: that thing. Dutrou was much larger. He was snatching young
Speaker 2: girls off the street. The X Files is online. People
Speaker 2: can read that. It's a compilation of all the research done.
Speaker 2: There was enough, and then the whole investigation was almost
Speaker 2: like what happened with Comict Ping Pong shut down. The
Speaker 2: prosecutor was hamper. There was a huge march by the
Speaker 2: people of Belgium. They knew something was wrong and it
Speaker 2: led My understanding is it led up into the highest
Speaker 2: echelons of the elite of Belgium, old line families, Nights
Speaker 2: of malta kind of weird stuff like that, and really
Speaker 2: nothing really ever came of it. And you want to
Speaker 2: talk about a cover up, there's a documentary that will
Speaker 2: peel the skin off your face. Because all it was
Speaker 2: was after the du tro how many people got whacked.
Speaker 2: It was like twenty was like that Kennedy assassination. There
Speaker 2: were twenty five people within like six months, shot himself, suicide, electrocuted,
Speaker 2: car crash. It was off the chart. So almost all
Speaker 2: of the witness it seemed, in my opinion, it was
Speaker 2: just a massive cleanup job. So there was a lot
Speaker 2: of smoke there. And there's all kinds of allegations of
Speaker 2: Satanic rituals in that stuff.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, there's the praxis that comes in where brings
Speaker 1: the Satanism in, yes, and the gentleman's name that they're
Speaker 1: connected to. And there is a actual post by James
Speaker 1: Alavantis too that that tags this guy. His name is
Speaker 1: axel Vervore. He's a once again another art another art purveyor. Right,
Speaker 1: he's got big art galleries over in Belgium. Uh So,
Speaker 1: Marina Abramovic and James Alafontis are both known to communicate,
Speaker 1: hang out with, and be acquainted with axel Vervoort, who
Speaker 1: was listed in the mark Utroux ex dossier.
Speaker 2: So it's so.
Speaker 1: Out of left field. So it's not even just Elafonta's
Speaker 1: is also Marina Abramovic who just happens to also be
Speaker 1: hanging out with Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2: It's hanging out with Lady Gaga Soros kids, I think, yep,
Speaker 2: and we have a spirit cooking. I mean, she was
Speaker 2: all over the place.
Speaker 1: Right and then when you get into the idea that like,
Speaker 1: it's not just that she's only an artist. I mean
Speaker 1: she does art on behalf of the State Department. Right,
Speaker 1: So if you want to think about branding as the
Speaker 1: State Department, if you were the State Department, right, would
Speaker 1: you want someone like that representing what? You know, cultural
Speaker 1: diplomacy being spread around the world? Is that cultural diplomacy?
Speaker 1: Is that? What that is? Is that what I'm led
Speaker 1: to believe, I wouldn't want someone like that representing me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying if I were in the
Speaker 1: State Department. And yet they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so she's getting paid out of these funds.
Speaker 2: She does all these so called art things that are
Speaker 2: almost very similar to Satanic rituals. Her biography admits she
Speaker 2: admits all kinds of crazy stuff communicating, She has all
Speaker 2: kinds of you know, paranormal skills. She goes into closets
Speaker 2: and talks with demons or not human entities. So it
Speaker 2: just gets creety, I mean, the creepiness and aliphantis if
Speaker 2: my memory serves me correct, which it may not, but
Speaker 2: I thought that he had an art connection to Berlin
Speaker 2: in Europe or some type of connection with his business
Speaker 2: where he was trading an art European, so he did
Speaker 2: have a European connection. Do you remember anything like that?
Speaker 1: No, he may have. I know he was connected to
Speaker 1: different establishments over there. That actually leaves me. But you're
Speaker 1: on the right track, and it leaves my mind at
Speaker 1: this moment now as well.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I haven't looked at this stuff for a while.
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of things I've been researching in
Speaker 2: the intervening things. But yeah, I mean it's incredible that
Speaker 2: even something in the name of Dutrou pops up. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, can you talk about this art project? You
Speaker 2: did the research for the State Department and they're kind
Speaker 2: of weird thing that I think people need to know about.
Speaker 2: I forgot the name of it, but they have some
Speaker 2: kind of internal art thing where they're trading in art.
Speaker 2: Can you talk about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, So the State Department has this program that
Speaker 1: was early iterations of it were created in the nineteen
Speaker 1: fifties and what it eventually turned into was the modern version,
Speaker 1: which is called the Art and Embassy's Program, and another
Speaker 1: iteration of it is for the Federal Preservation of Art
Speaker 1: in Embassy's Program FAPE is what it's called, but they
Speaker 1: can kind of be combined to do the same thing.
Speaker 1: So the Podestas are members of FAPE, Marina Abramovic are
Speaker 1: members of the Art and Embassies program. We've also got
Speaker 1: Jeff Koons that is also the member of this. Now
Speaker 1: Jeff Kuhns has allegations going back quite a while from
Speaker 1: his ex wife about molesting his child.
Speaker 2: So choose a porn star, very well known porn star
Speaker 2: in your.
Speaker 1: Correct yep, correct. So you've got these people that do
Speaker 1: have shoddy paths that are evolved into this Art Embassies program.
Speaker 1: But most importantly about the program, and this is more
Speaker 1: theoretical about the infrastructure of what they could be capable of,
Speaker 1: should they should they choose to do it, is the
Speaker 1: fact that these are independent shipping programs that are allowed
Speaker 1: to ship art masterpieces from embassies around the world. Now,
Speaker 1: you can't just go sending things to US embassies unsecured
Speaker 1: on check, using your own your own transportation, your own airplanes,
Speaker 1: commercial airliners. You know, you can't just do.
Speaker 2: To the yours or mine. Yeah, no, this is incredible.
Speaker 2: This was like they were cheving stuff and Jeffkins I
Speaker 2: would say I wouldn't go off the that and say
Speaker 2: something as degenerate art. But I would say his art
Speaker 2: is pretty that if I remember correctly. And I mean,
Speaker 2: and the other thing is I think some of the
Speaker 2: State Department guys were involved in pedophilia. There was a
Speaker 2: guy in Europe. I think it was in Belgium. It
Speaker 2: was mentioned one of the Memory Holds documentaries where you
Speaker 2: just blocked out for a little while I was trying
Speaker 2: to fill the space.
Speaker 1: But no, no, sorry about that. Have no idea, but
Speaker 1: you were right. I heard about the Jeff I heard
Speaker 1: about Jeff Coods. Yeah. And basically what they do is,
Speaker 1: I mean, they have this company called Masterpiece International that
Speaker 1: is a company that handles the shipping process for them,
Speaker 1: and that means that they have their own independent teams.
Speaker 1: They circumvent the traditional security such as the TSA any
Speaker 1: port checks, so when ships come into land a part, right,
Speaker 1: they circumvent those. So it's basically like you guys get
Speaker 1: out of here, we'll put our guys in and we'll
Speaker 1: do we'll oversee the security checks. Right. So technically, right,
Speaker 1: these embassies can be accessed with these shipping caniners, these boats,
Speaker 1: these cargo plants, and sure it could be just art
Speaker 1: that they're shipping, but it could also be something more
Speaker 1: and we would never know about it. It sounds outlandish,
Speaker 1: but the fact, the point that I'm trying to prove
Speaker 1: in those videos is the fact that it could be
Speaker 1: possible should you know, they decide to do it, and
Speaker 1: we know the types of people that are already involved
Speaker 1: in it, and they're shady.
Speaker 2: Super shaddy, So they could be trafficking anything really almost
Speaker 2: like a diplomatic pouch.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And look, if you're shipping mass if you're shipping
Speaker 1: absolute million dollar pieces of art, you're not just throwing
Speaker 1: it in like a metal box in the sun in
Speaker 1: the heat. That's going to be climate controlled containers. You're
Speaker 1: going to have like the necessary uh, the necessary resources,
Speaker 1: you know, tech, maybe perhaps even in order to keep
Speaker 1: a human alive. I don't know, I'm not an expert
Speaker 1: in shipping containers, but all of these things are lining
Speaker 1: up to be very suspicious to me. In fact, that company,
Speaker 1: Masterpiece International, is the only company one of all like, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like one of the only companies that like brags
Speaker 2: that they're around or sitting around like or able to
Speaker 2: circumvent customs. Yeah, I think they bragged that they had
Speaker 2: thirty internal customs agents or something like that.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's exactly. It's a small it's a small team,
Speaker 1: and out of all the teams in the world, you know,
Speaker 1: you try to get on an airport tarmac to go
Speaker 1: directly to an airplane, it's not going to work, you know,
Speaker 1: But these people are allowed to do that, you know.
Speaker 2: Right, So there's definitely a different set of rules for
Speaker 2: these elites. And that's really kind of what the importance
Speaker 2: of your research is. It's not this kind of thing
Speaker 2: that happened in DC. It's the watching this international transnational
Speaker 2: sex trafficking something strained. Human trafficking is really weird going on,
Speaker 2: and all these elites seem to have they try to
Speaker 2: get a cover organization. So it's either some type of
Speaker 2: corporation that looks good on the surface. It's either like
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about the kids or the something. And Elaine
Speaker 2: Maxwell had Tara Mark, can you talk about what these
Speaker 2: guys do. It seems like they're doing it to cover
Speaker 2: up some kind of neferous activity.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, I definitely agree with it. So I
Speaker 1: think number one is they go for like the five
Speaker 1: oh one c three nonprofits, right, And I think there's
Speaker 1: a number of reasons for that, because you can number one,
Speaker 1: put a name to that nonprofit such as Save the
Speaker 1: Kids International or you know, whatever it might be. But
Speaker 1: then you can also funnel money arounds that I believe
Speaker 1: makes it a little bit easier to conduct the money laundering. Now,
Speaker 1: once again, I'm not a professional financial advisor here that
Speaker 1: would know the nitty gritty, but we've seen that there's
Speaker 1: historical precedence for that.
Speaker 2: No, the thing is like Epstein to Maxwell have hundreds
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars, but there's records, so there's only
Speaker 2: I would say, in my opinion, their money laundering skills
Speaker 2: are a plus plus.
Speaker 1: Plus absolutely yeah, and that's on records. So it's like
Speaker 1: there's clearly these are things we have to pay attention to.
Speaker 1: So taramar Is is just one perfect example of that.
Speaker 1: They had no offices and yet she was speaking looking
Speaker 1: at the United Nations on behalf of taramar right, So
Speaker 1: there was clearly something going on with these, you know,
Speaker 1: nonprofits that didn't have an office at aare for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: So what was their main goal? Well, their main goal
Speaker 1: seemed to be to control the oceans, to own the oceans.
Speaker 1: Whatever that means right, it seemed to stretch further than
Speaker 1: to simple ocean conservation. But where my attention really goes
Speaker 1: to if you figure you combine all of these elite
Speaker 1: individuals that have their own nonprofits, they have their own organizations, right,
Speaker 1: I mean Richard or what was it, Jeff Coons. I
Speaker 1: believe his family is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Coons has all Yeah, there's just all kinds of
Speaker 2: weird stuff. I actually saw something today I was researching,
Speaker 2: and it was it was Maxwell was touting Tara Mar
Speaker 2: for the University of Texas and a lot of rich
Speaker 2: people are giving her money. So I don't even know
Speaker 2: where that money went. But she was at the University
Speaker 2: of Texas in twenty fourteen talking with Tara mor and
Speaker 2: is it it was Taramar project. If you want to
Speaker 2: see this, I'm going to put it up on the screen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 2: Hold on, just a second, look at this. I'll check.
Speaker 2: So this is the tarrorn Mar Project, University of Texas.
Speaker 2: But get this here it goes This is like a
Speaker 2: virtual scrabit. Look who's on there. It's to Christine Maxwell.
Speaker 2: That's her sister. But she's like just touting all this stuff.
Speaker 2: She's got her naturals and all these symbols, and she's
Speaker 2: hobnobbing with all these people. It's really too much.
Speaker 1: And it's incredible that we don't pay attention too much
Speaker 1: to Christine or Isabelle Maxwell either too, because well.
Speaker 2: Here, this is where I was going to get at
Speaker 2: was Christine Maxwell is married to a Molina whose dad
Speaker 2: was part of the suicide squad and worked with none
Speaker 2: other than Jack Parsons.
Speaker 1: Jack Parsons, yep. Isn't it crazy how that works?
Speaker 2: It's so crazy. And they were part of something in
Speaker 2: New Mexico. I think it was the New Mexico something
Speaker 2: or like. It was kind of an elite thing where
Speaker 2: it's kind of like the Monterey You ever see the
Speaker 2: Monterey Club where all the tech guys and Epstein was there.
Speaker 2: There's something like that in New Mexico, close to where
Speaker 2: Epstein had a thing. And there were stories about Epstein
Speaker 2: bringing in kids from South America through Mexico, like driving
Speaker 2: them up. So there was a lot of rumors of
Speaker 2: trafficking or a ranch. Thanks Lee, yeah there, but just
Speaker 2: to finish that up, there was something there and they're
Speaker 2: at there at the the New Mexico. I can't remember
Speaker 2: it right now, it's Santa Fe Club or something. They
Speaker 2: had a huge monolith, like right out of two thousand
Speaker 2: and one. So they just have all these occult symbols.
Speaker 2: These people have their own story and they have their
Speaker 2: own religion. It's like their own there's a there's a
Speaker 2: religious aspect that I think is very secret, and they
Speaker 2: and what's her name, Virginia giud Frey talked about that
Speaker 2: they had statuaries and you've seen pictures I think of
Speaker 2: Maxwell with some weird art and stuff like that satanic. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I kind of yeah, maybe you can talk more about Taramorton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know that with Tara my when you think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep coming in and out. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's you or me, but I think it's you.
Speaker 2: Let's see any questions. Does anybody want to write any
Speaker 2: questions in in YouTube?
Speaker 1: That's weird. I'm so sorry about that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's like the third or fourth time. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: so let's try again with Terry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I was gonna say it was just the
Speaker 1: private island system. You have to look at the close
Speaker 1: vicinity between Epstein's Island, Little Saint James Richard Branson's Island,
Speaker 1: Necker Island, which by the way, hosted Nexium the sex
Speaker 1: cult on his islands not that far away. You have
Speaker 1: to remember Glenne Maxwell's a submersible pilot, a certified submersible pilot.
Speaker 1: You have to remember the close vicinity of both of
Speaker 1: those islands, Richard Branson's Necker Island, little Saint James.
Speaker 2: And Biden has an island right down there too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Water Islands. Yep, they have property that was like
Speaker 1: exchanged on that island in that same vicinity. And this
Speaker 1: is all within the vicinity of Haiti as well, right
Speaker 1: where that abduction took place back in twenty ten after
Speaker 1: the earthquake that directly connects it back precisely. Yep. And
Speaker 1: you know there's also White House visitor logues that show
Speaker 1: that Silsby visited the White House multiple times in twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: and every time she visited only hours after that James
Speaker 1: elaphont Is visited just coincidentally, right, So a pizza guy
Speaker 1: is visiting the White House only within like five hours
Speaker 1: that you know, a confirmed human trafficker is, but not
Speaker 1: once but twice. Right, So all within this small little
Speaker 1: realm these this it's like an island neighborhood is what
Speaker 1: I call it is technically they could be creating some
Speaker 1: type of self sufficient sideline operation there that's sort of
Speaker 1: a peppering of islands separate from the rest of the mainland. Again,
Speaker 1: this is speculation, but we do know that the rest
Speaker 1: of what we discussed is not speculation. These are human traffickers.
Speaker 1: These are people connected to human trafficking, and this is
Speaker 1: the type of behavior they're engaging in, and they have
Speaker 1: the infrastructure in place to complete these types of visions
Speaker 1: should they want to.
Speaker 2: Right, and you talk in Taramar, I think it was
Speaker 2: in your documentary that they thought of a tera More
Speaker 2: as almost somebody of a citizen of another.
Speaker 1: Nation, exactly precisely, and that was in our deposition too.
Speaker 1: Thank you for reminding me that was precise. That was
Speaker 1: in her deposition where when Gilaine was being questioned by
Speaker 1: authority is what country she's a citizen of? She listed
Speaker 1: to the countries and then they asked, are you a
Speaker 1: citizen of any other nation? And she said yes, tera Mar.
Speaker 1: And unless that, I don't know if that's supposed to
Speaker 1: be some tongue in cheek smart alec response on her part,
Speaker 1: but given the pressure and the situation, the severity of
Speaker 1: the situation she was in at the time. To give
Speaker 1: that a sir, that tells me there's something more to this.
Speaker 1: Who would respond that you're a nation of a non
Speaker 1: you're a citizen of a nonprofit. It does not make sense.
Speaker 1: So there's something more to Terramary than meets the eye,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. In my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you. It's almost like she
Speaker 2: was up to something else. And all of the ocean
Speaker 2: stuff that she was in submersibles and being in the ocean,
Speaker 2: that was kind of like her cover to me in
Speaker 2: my opinion, her cover and a way to also get
Speaker 2: a crew money. So oh yeah, this is you're saving
Speaker 2: the oceans. This is great. I'll give you cash.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, just incredible. Can you talk about the
Speaker 2: connections between and the Pizzagate social set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure. So some of the more basic connections comes
Speaker 1: through the Gwendolen and Morris Kofritz Foundation. So this is
Speaker 1: a foundation they have set up that has donated to
Speaker 1: both the Nexium side of things as well as the
Speaker 1: Pizzagate side of things. So there are pizza Gate connected
Speaker 1: entities that have done like the graphic design Uh, for
Speaker 1: the Kafritz Foundation. And not only that, but there are
Speaker 1: members of the ka Fritz family I believe that have
Speaker 1: attended parties with the Podestas, who of course are connected
Speaker 1: to Alifontis. And then of course you have to remember
Speaker 1: that Pamela Kafritz was the original individual within Nexium that
Speaker 1: was dealing with the enslavement of women, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: until either she passed if I remember correctly believe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, she was. She was an early member, and
Speaker 1: then I think Alison Mack came in and sort of
Speaker 1: reinvigorated this slave enslavement process and changed up Nexium uh
Speaker 1: into d O S right, that's that's it, yep, which
Speaker 1: is basically the the the slave women within Nexium. So
Speaker 1: there was Nexium members that apparently did not know that
Speaker 1: this was going on. But you know, Alison Mack and
Speaker 1: Keith are very much recruiting women to be personal all
Speaker 1: sex slaves, which is where the branding comes in. So
Speaker 1: Pamela ka Fritz used to be doing that Alison Mack
Speaker 1: took over. But it's the same Kafritz Foundation that is
Speaker 1: also involved with individuals in Pizzagate, because we've got them
Speaker 1: donating to entities that are connected to Alafontas. We've got
Speaker 1: them doing and people from Pizzagate handling the graphic design
Speaker 1: and the artwork for different ka Fritz websites. We've got
Speaker 1: members of the Kafritz family attending parties of the Podestas. Right,
Speaker 1: So once again it's as common just cycle back and forth,
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth between things we're told
Speaker 1: as separate. And let's think of the timing too, Guys,
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Pizzagate or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: comes out. We're told it's nonsense. But then what happens
Speaker 1: in the next five years? John of God goes down,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein goes down, Glenn Maxwell goes down, Jean lu
Speaker 1: Brenell goes down, Peter Nigard goes down. And guess what
Speaker 1: all of these people have similar friends, Right, Prince Andrew
Speaker 1: has his arms around Virginia right with Glaine and Epstein,
Speaker 1: But meanwhile he's visiting Peter Nigard on his island. Right.
Speaker 1: Oprah is the one that made John of God famous. Well,
Speaker 1: guess what you know, she's visiting Peter Nigard's island as well.
Speaker 2: Friends with the what's the producer Weinstein.
Speaker 1: Yeah, R, that's perfect. That's the other one I forgot. Yep,
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein. And guess what, We've got testimony from a
Speaker 1: witness that said that Harvey was over getting a massage
Speaker 1: from one of Epstein's girls in France. Now, apparently Harvey
Speaker 1: tried to take it a little further and Epstein got
Speaker 1: a little upset with him about that. Now, that came
Speaker 1: from Jean Luke Burnell and a witness himself, so I
Speaker 1: consider it credible the fact that it also came from
Speaker 1: Jean Luke Burnell, since he's festing up to it. And
Speaker 1: the South America thing might even be true as well,
Speaker 1: because I've found some old John Luke Burnell websites that
Speaker 1: showed him clearly very much engaged in South America.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I've heard the same thing about Epstein and Maxwell
Speaker 2: that they were involved in in Venezuela. So a lot
Speaker 2: of traveling, I believe it or not out of Venezuela.
Speaker 2: Rumor not verified. But they were up to no good.
Speaker 2: They had one of those planes that you could drop
Speaker 2: the back down, so they could be flying over you know,
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand feet chuck drugs, truck people. You know, it
Speaker 2: could be anything. I mean, it's off the charts. There
Speaker 2: were these guys were involved in so much, so much
Speaker 2: malevol and stuff. It's really off the chart, so that
Speaker 2: they it took that long to actually bust them. Let's
Speaker 2: see what other subject can we talk about. Let's see
Speaker 2: if he's back. Anybody have any questions? Yeah, no, lead
Speaker 2: these are there's a weird Does anybody know that in
Speaker 2: the chat about I think we lost the guest. Does
Speaker 2: any of anybody in the chat know about this thing
Speaker 2: with nexium where they were had a space opera or
Speaker 2: actually some kind of connection to Alistair Curley Because I
Speaker 2: just saw this thing. I don't know enough about nextium
Speaker 2: on a surface thing. I talked to Frank Barlotto. But
Speaker 2: here's this graph and you can see that they supposedly
Speaker 2: drew from Rosicrucianism, free Masonry, Crowley, Blovotsky, Hubbard, Earhart, and
Speaker 2: I knew about the Rand, objectivism and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: but I didn't know about the space opera, saucer culture.
Speaker 2: Do you ever know anything memory hold about the space
Speaker 2: opera or saucer culture element of nexiim or Crowley? Because
Speaker 2: I never heard I heard the scientology part.
Speaker 1: No I've heard the scientology part. I've heard those names
Speaker 1: though before, but I don't know much further than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to look into that in greater detail.
Speaker 2: Where can people find your research?
Speaker 1: Sure? So you can primarily find me on bit shoot.
Speaker 1: So that's bitchhoot dot com slash memory hold. I am
Speaker 1: on YouTube. We'll continue to be on there, even though
Speaker 1: Susan keeps spanning me NonStop. So that's memory hold four
Speaker 1: point Oh, I really put the effort on bit shoot
Speaker 1: dot com, uh, slash memory hold. If you want to
Speaker 1: catch the show live right and join in on the chat,
Speaker 1: We've got a very good community, a very good lively
Speaker 1: chat that does great research. That's d live dot tv
Speaker 1: slash memory holds, and all of those live streams will
Speaker 1: then be uploaded to bit shoot. We repeat that.
Speaker 2: Can you repeat that live show for me again? I
Speaker 2: missed it?
Speaker 1: You got it? Yep. So that's d live d live
Speaker 1: dot tv tv slash memory hold yep. And I'm basically
Speaker 1: eventually going to be on every al platform. I can imagine.
Speaker 2: That's a d live TV mem forward slash anyway, it's
Speaker 2: d live dot tv dot memory He keeps coming in
Speaker 2: and out of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have very bizarre somebody doesn't want you to
Speaker 1: do any talking, wouldn't surprise me, So yeah, check that out.
Speaker 2: I would like to check that out as well. I'd
Speaker 2: like to listen to some of the live shows. How's
Speaker 2: what's your experience with d live?
Speaker 1: Like, Oh, you know, I really experience. I love it.
Speaker 1: No censorship so far, very smooth streams, no real big interruptions,
Speaker 1: so I got to give it one hundred percent so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm supposed to be starting to stream there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, excellent research. Guys, go check out this stuff.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time. Again. It's Memory Hold
Speaker 2: m E m O R y h O l D
Speaker 2: and there's a lot more we didn't even cover. I
Speaker 2: think we could probably do another show. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of other issue, you know, very important things to cover.
Speaker 2: But also go check out the title of this show
Speaker 2: is going to be a lead human trafficking, so you
Speaker 2: want to look for those on bitshoot as well. And
Speaker 2: it's under mouthy Buddha m o U t h y
Speaker 2: b u d d h A. But he mentions memory
Speaker 2: Old as one of the primary, if not the primary
Speaker 2: researcher of those documentaries so memory, well, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for your time. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thank you for having me on. I really
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I enjoy your work and watching for a while.
Speaker 1: So hopefully we can do another one.
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, yeah, anytime. Let's keep in touch.
Speaker 1: Cool all right, guys, have a good one.
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere.