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<v Speaker 1>Come from that space with me calu Aga. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>on this space we're talking money, the economy, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course finance. This week we're doing taxes. We're doing which

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<v Speaker 1>we say, a masterclass on taxes this week, right, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to essentially talk around those tax tax law that's

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<v Speaker 1>being past right, how it affect you on a personal level,

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<v Speaker 1>what important thing? How would it affect you as an

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<v Speaker 1>semi right, we wanna do more like a masterclass edition ticket, slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>step by step going through the boasts of account I e.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do the income statement, We're gonna do the

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<v Speaker 1>balance sheet, We're gonna talk about VAT, We're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>with holding tax. We're gonna make it really, really practical.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be those real questions that you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to come that's gonna come to you from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven this year, not the hypotheticals, but the real things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a great accountant, great co host with

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<v Speaker 1>me today, bella man. She's going to reduce herself in

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<v Speaker 1>just a second, and then she's going to take us

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<v Speaker 1>through space. It's going to be more of like an

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<v Speaker 1>co interviewing where I ask questions and then she's answering.

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<v Speaker 1>Giving us those answers, Levita also just address this top

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<v Speaker 1>of the list of the session. We know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of issues with the tax reforms, lots of sho we say, error,

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<v Speaker 1>duplications and regards and all that, but most of all

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about here are not each of that. We're

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<v Speaker 1>in contention even when the law was passed, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about those those col things they tax rate,

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<v Speaker 1>the exemptions and all that. When we get to the

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<v Speaker 1>place where we think there's been some confusion, of course

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<v Speaker 1>would mention it. But really this taclay is here and

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<v Speaker 1>it's good for you as an SEME business owner, as

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<v Speaker 1>a guide that's playing taxes to understand what the taxes

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<v Speaker 1>are going to say so that you know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>to do. So we're not talking now to the shuld

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<v Speaker 1>we see the CEOs of large companies. Really our target

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<v Speaker 1>for this space is going to be at sm guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a small company, you're employed five people, ten people,

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<v Speaker 1>living one hundred people, and you haven't been paying the

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<v Speaker 1>taxes the way you should have been, or you're unsure

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<v Speaker 1>how this new taxi gym would affect you. You are

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<v Speaker 1>our target today because we're going to be very very practical,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm using the world very very slow and deliberator.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow and of course you can have those

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<v Speaker 1>notes and you can ask your questions. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>just ask my coast to induce your self, tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what it's all about, and then we're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>start the session. Thanks for holding on, guys, bell but

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good here everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Mary Mark. I'm here to host. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a very interest in topic and we're going to dissect it.

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<v Speaker 3>So everybody is clear. Then, just to be clear on

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<v Speaker 3>my profession, I have my master's in finance. I have

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<v Speaker 3>worked as an account as an accounting assistant, but I

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<v Speaker 3>cannot call myself an accountant because I do not have.

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<v Speaker 2>A degree in accounting.

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<v Speaker 3>So to put it out there, so one mischools or

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<v Speaker 3>calu in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so yeah, fantastic And again I just put

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<v Speaker 1>a slide up there. We're also on YouTube, guys, so

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm just follow visuals w also on YouTube. We

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<v Speaker 1>did share the links to YouTube page. Just do Thinkland Calgary.

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<v Speaker 1>You see YouTube. You can also flow those spacials as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, just overall, we're doing education right we're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing a facial advice or tax advice. It's more of education.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the end take what you've learned to go

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<v Speaker 1>speak to your tax person and of course you should

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<v Speaker 1>get more clarity on that. So we're not doing tax advice,

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<v Speaker 1>just education. But I'm going to be set the state

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<v Speaker 1>for you, belam. This is going to be a there

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a company, right, and I'm the CEO.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the sea of the company. I own this company.

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<v Speaker 1>I own a second company, and I'll tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>the company. But this company now is making maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>just round figure, so it's very very easy to remembers

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<v Speaker 1>making a million, never turnover and all that. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>off just by asking you what income I am the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of this company. What income am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>file as a personal for my company? As an individual? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>What income is exposed to taxation? Personal income taxes?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so let me start here. You're CEO, you have

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<v Speaker 3>the company. So first of all, whatever that your income

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<v Speaker 3>is already tax deducted, it has already gone through taxation.

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<v Speaker 2>And whatever thing you hold as income, if.

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<v Speaker 3>One million is your income, it's no longer subjected.

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<v Speaker 2>To taxation anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Now if you as a company, you may let's say

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<v Speaker 3>ten million and turnover.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we can talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About what is subjected to taxation now. But before you

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<v Speaker 3>now go to the taxation. If you have an accountant,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say your CARNU, you're a business person, you have

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<v Speaker 3>one exhibited as a company, and you run the booth

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<v Speaker 3>of them together.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, One thing the.

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<v Speaker 3>Taxo wants you to do is the taxo wants you

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<v Speaker 3>to separate your businesses from your personal income. So you

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<v Speaker 3>should never ever there should be a world in China

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<v Speaker 3>world between your personal income and your.

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<v Speaker 2>Business income as from the first of January. Dose two things.

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<v Speaker 2>If you used to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Them before, do not do them anymore, because if there's

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<v Speaker 3>no clear destinction, the taxman can come for your income.

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<v Speaker 3>So because there's a lord that talks about the presumptive,

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<v Speaker 3>I will just talk on there. These are for people

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<v Speaker 3>that do not know accounting, the losses. If you don't

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<v Speaker 3>know accounting and you bring your statement to say this

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<v Speaker 3>is what I make, I make one million and from

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<v Speaker 3>that account, this is where you spend money from. So

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<v Speaker 3>so it is going to assume that all of the

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<v Speaker 3>one million that's in your account is a changeable income.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a need for also separate this, sue, So

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<v Speaker 3>will you ask me the question again? If I'm a person,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a business, and I have a company, my

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<v Speaker 3>business makes ten million, what is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Tax I pay on this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to talk about just myself, not ignoring

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<v Speaker 1>my company. So let's say correct, I'm the CEO. My

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<v Speaker 1>company has paid me, pays me a salary, and my

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<v Speaker 1>company also I also own shares in the company. I

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<v Speaker 1>also a company also paid me a dividend? Is the

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<v Speaker 1>salary taxable to me? I have a file? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>income to me as an individual, not the company? For me? Now, Calu,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the CEE of Carlo Company. Car company pays me

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<v Speaker 1>a salary. I also get a dividend check from Carlo Company.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I pay tax on the salary and the dividend?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So first, before you you get your salary as call,

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<v Speaker 3>your company already collected pay from it, so your income

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<v Speaker 3>is already your your next position, so you no longer

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<v Speaker 3>pay anything from that. Then from your dividends, it's already

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<v Speaker 3>deducted at source. So the person the portfolio manager, before

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<v Speaker 3>they give you your dividends, the taxes as if are

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<v Speaker 3>already dedorted at souce. Therefore, your personal income that's paid

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<v Speaker 3>to you as a salary, it's already collected. They've already

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<v Speaker 3>collected their taxes or your company accountacs already collected that

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<v Speaker 3>taxes your payroll.

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<v Speaker 2>Comply, So.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm going to right, do I have to file

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<v Speaker 1>taxes on individual? You have?

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<v Speaker 3>So you don't have to because your tax has already

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<v Speaker 3>been deducted at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So when the companies pay your tax?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, will you company s pay you your salary right

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<v Speaker 3>before your salary is paid like you know before you

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<v Speaker 3>probably do now pre twenty twenty six, is you go

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<v Speaker 3>the company accounts and you send salaries, you can no

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<v Speaker 3>longer do that again is wrong and it's legal.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have a payroll. Oh man, you have

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<v Speaker 2>businesses need to have a payroll.

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<v Speaker 3>So, mister Carlus, if you have a company, your company

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<v Speaker 3>has to pay you salary and that salary has to

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<v Speaker 3>be tax deductible. It has to go through all the deductions,

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<v Speaker 3>the statitute deductions and the contributions if the company is

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<v Speaker 3>doing that for you, right, So, once it hits your account,

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<v Speaker 3>your money that's comming to you account is the next

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<v Speaker 3>position not a taxable position anymore, because before he leaves

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<v Speaker 3>the company it.

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<v Speaker 2>Must be taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>Question for you is what if I what if the

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<v Speaker 1>company does not do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there are penalties.

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<v Speaker 3>There are penalties, So no, you don't have to fast.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we have to.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're meeting two things this year. You're still

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<v Speaker 3>putting yourself as Carlo the company. You have to separate

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<v Speaker 3>yourself mister calum, mister company.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So if your company, let's say ABC Limited, is paying

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<v Speaker 3>carlous salary, right, by the law as of today, there

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<v Speaker 3>must be a payroll. There must be a payroll that

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<v Speaker 3>you will that your accountants. If you're the world that's

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<v Speaker 3>doing it yourself, you must meet the deductions right, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you must pay your tax.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a company.

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<v Speaker 3>If your companies pay your salary, you must fall under

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<v Speaker 3>the pay role they pay your band. So you must

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<v Speaker 3>go through that pay band before you pay yourself salary,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the payroll. I think Drances have not been

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<v Speaker 3>talking a lot or we're not using payroll as a

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<v Speaker 3>love before younger, but from friend they when I'm this

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<v Speaker 3>already in law, you have to go through payroll, and

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<v Speaker 3>payroll constitutes off the statutute deductions and the statutory and contributions.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, mister calum, even if your company is pay

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<v Speaker 2>your money, once he.

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<v Speaker 3>Hits your account, it's the next position.

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<v Speaker 2>You no longer pay tax anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Lets I get that, unless you do have an accompany. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The point I'm trying to make is this right, the

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<v Speaker 1>company has paid the taxes and it's a company as

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<v Speaker 1>the next position.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, you don't don't pay anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I get you. What do I have to file? Is

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<v Speaker 1>the question? Do I have to file?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to file because no, you personally do

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<v Speaker 3>not have to file because the company is paying you.

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<v Speaker 3>But your company will fire tax. Your company will not

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<v Speaker 3>fight c C. So under the c I T in

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<v Speaker 3>the accounting, everything like a company paid to employers is adopted.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you understand?

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, as a company will file the company tax,

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<v Speaker 3>but your company has already adopted paid from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, understand yes? So so so now what about my income?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say I'm asking this question on purpose. Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>I own a Coco exported company. I own that coques

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<v Speaker 1>in company one right, the coortance company gives me a

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<v Speaker 1>million ira return. I do export cocoa. I get a

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<v Speaker 1>million ira, that's my dividends or in company? Is that tax?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it taxable? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So let me get in the street. Let me get

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<v Speaker 2>you correctly.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a cocoa company right and made perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>You're asking if it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Because feeder government is trying to make exports, it's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to make exports what is called attractive to Nigerians. We

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<v Speaker 2>Into the country.

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<v Speaker 3>So further, government is saying that there are things that

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<v Speaker 3>are tax exempts in the exporting exporting category. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing those activities that follow that the tax is

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<v Speaker 3>the category for exporting, then all of the process that

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<v Speaker 3>come from there is one hundred percent tax agent.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's the cave there's a caveage there which.

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<v Speaker 3>It says that if you're engaging in this exempts category,

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<v Speaker 3>you must make sure that the financial activities you're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever thing you're doing there, if you're farming or you're

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<v Speaker 3>exporting cocoa, let it be that if it's coco or

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<v Speaker 3>any other cash product, it's one hundred percent under the

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<v Speaker 3>exam category. If it is no, undred hundred percent under

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<v Speaker 2>So let's maybe you're a farming cocoa.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you're farming what is it called carrots for example,

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<v Speaker 3>exporting carrots, or you're exporting passue, and it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>the exempt it's an example, you don't have the exams

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<v Speaker 3>and position right. The government says that in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>you're the other thing that you're also.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing as an activity.

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<v Speaker 3>Financial activity should be twenty five percent or less than

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five percent for you to have that exempts status.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're doing another activity in that export and

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<v Speaker 3>partgorary that is not for the exents list, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you now miss them up and maybe the other one

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<v Speaker 3>is forty percent of your activity that you're doing and

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<v Speaker 3>that one is sixty percent, you do not miss that

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<v Speaker 3>category anymore to get.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me understand what you're saying. So if if,

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<v Speaker 1>if if the export is on that list, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>percent exemption on they don't come from. But carrots are

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<v Speaker 1>not on that list. So even if I so even

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<v Speaker 1>if I export carrots, I can clean carrots because car

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, you cannot clean carrots.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Let it be that the carrot activity is

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<v Speaker 3>not more than spenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So can I claim five percent?

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<v Speaker 3>If it's less or twenty five percent, then you can

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<v Speaker 3>see four D one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>So the activity altogether is on hundred percents.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say one part is seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>Five percent and particistants five percent. You see for long

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<v Speaker 2>that that's as category.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's say maybe your current business is so big

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<v Speaker 3>that is certificience. Then you no longer fall into the

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<v Speaker 3>category the government is going to charge you outrightly as

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<v Speaker 3>they charge everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You're no longer pense.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So even though you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing it what is it called as.

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<v Speaker 2>Category, you have to stick to that product. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So again, Lenny, point for me here that I

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<v Speaker 1>have to get that list of exports activities that qualify exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that list has to deal with with sports, education, agriculture,

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<v Speaker 1>sports education, agriculture. What about if I just go ahead?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so no, that list for exports is no, sports

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<v Speaker 3>is agriculture mainly, but this sport only is. I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is you're touching on the point of what is

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<v Speaker 3>it called people that are exempt from v e C.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm what I'm trying to say, is this okay? Like

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<v Speaker 1>for me, right, So I am the CEO. The lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>is saying that if I do certain activities dividends received,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting it on a dividens from investments in holy

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<v Speaker 1>export points of dominent oil company in respect to good

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<v Speaker 1>exempt and if you export goods and you're practiced through

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<v Speaker 1>officials and Nigeria, the lawyer saying, you'll know the tax

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<v Speaker 1>this is holy export related businesses. So in that list

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<v Speaker 1>it's talking about sporting, religious, educational. Then agricola I got

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<v Speaker 1>as a five year no no taxes holiday, five year

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<v Speaker 1>tax for the day for what carrot? You have five

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<v Speaker 1>year but holy export driven activities them from taxes. That's what.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for your reason, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So once I gets from that is let me take

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<v Speaker 3>my slides that I prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that you you you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have the exensienist for experts category, but you cannot mix

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<v Speaker 3>it like even if you're doing cocoo. Now it has

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<v Speaker 3>that and that sense of one hundred percent exports, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but if you're not missing coco, your activity has to

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<v Speaker 3>be fully fully on that category list that the government

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<v Speaker 3>is exented from it. If you miss it up with

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<v Speaker 3>something on other products, even in agriculture.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not the exensiveness. Then that means that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're missing your activity together even though it's exports.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, understood, Just to let us ask again, I get

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<v Speaker 1>that point now. So like I know in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord, it's not talking about the person. This is

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<v Speaker 1>top that about Calum, not Calo company Calu. If Calu

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<v Speaker 1>gets an interest, interest dividends from outside Nigeria, it's exempt.

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<v Speaker 1>So if for instance, I own a property in America

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<v Speaker 1>and that property in America pays me dollars and I

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<v Speaker 1>bring that dollar back to Nigeria through approved channels, the

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<v Speaker 1>law is saying that I don't pay tax on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So dividends, interest, rent, royalty derived from outside Nigeria and

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<v Speaker 1>brought into Nigeria through approved channels, I don't pay tax.

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<v Speaker 1>It says. Dividends received from investments in export businesses, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay tax on that. It's saying dividends from collective

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<v Speaker 1>investment scheam. So I go and buy an ATF or

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<v Speaker 1>a mutual from Nigeria, I don't pay that. It's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>If I do a profit, if I invest in sports

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<v Speaker 1>and so if I own it. If I own an ina,

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<v Speaker 1>profits of a company, engage in sportsn it is, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay tax on that. If I also buy federal

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<v Speaker 1>governments and state boards the copper income, also don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>tax on that. So again for Calu, not Carlo company.

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<v Speaker 1>For I'm gonna come the Carlo company. Now for Candu

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<v Speaker 1>as an individual, these are all my passive income strategies

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't pay tax on, right mm hmm okay,

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<v Speaker 1>perfect to clarify before we're going to the company.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, okay, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Jump into the company. Now the biggest question before you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's I mean to ask you this question. If I

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<v Speaker 1>receive money into my bank account, do I pay tax

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<v Speaker 1>on it? If I get tenline into my bank account?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, you do not pay because government

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<v Speaker 3>does not tax your bank accounts don't. The only thing

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<v Speaker 3>government tax is if you're using your bank accounts as

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<v Speaker 3>your business accounts. This is where where you find your tax.

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<v Speaker 3>You tax what your personal accounts of. Men do not

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<v Speaker 3>look into it. It doesn't concern them. Or men do

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<v Speaker 3>not have gifts. Your gifts are tax So let's say

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<v Speaker 3>somebody send your money and send me twenty million his

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<v Speaker 3>gifts not that, okay, how will.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask me?

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's your personal account. It's your personal account.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't take business accounts, right. So if the person that

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<v Speaker 3>is paying that money is in you their money for services, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A different thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But if the person is paying you that money, I

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<v Speaker 3>think gift. Now I transfer tell me them to my

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<v Speaker 3>to my brother, or tell me to my sister.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty millions to my sister. If I targeted gifts, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it's a gift and it's in my personal accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>Money is in my.

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<v Speaker 3>Personal account, and I'll listen to But if let's say

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<v Speaker 3>the money is like fifty million, money gets to that

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<v Speaker 3>point where they say you need to pay, you need

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<v Speaker 3>to pay what is it called?

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<v Speaker 2>You need to pay a CID? Now the tax man

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<v Speaker 2>is not really care.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at the administrative law, the tax man

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<v Speaker 3>is not really clear on what they would do or

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<v Speaker 3>how they will go into your account. I saying this

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<v Speaker 3>is what is subject to People are saying that the

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<v Speaker 3>tax is not clear, the tasty the administrative law is

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<v Speaker 3>not goad of that. And I think when I have

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<v Speaker 3>doing this, he said they are going after small people,

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<v Speaker 3>They're going after the people. Right, So did you not

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<v Speaker 3>specifically say if you sit, then.

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<v Speaker 2>The government is going to call it.

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<v Speaker 3>The tax man has the authority to call you, send

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<v Speaker 3>you to courts as peoplet penalty on you and you

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<v Speaker 3>will pay while you're going to court. So this is

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<v Speaker 3>a discretion of the taxman. But let's say your money is.

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<v Speaker 2>Not hitting the presshore.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the red flag there.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody comes for you. Let's know you get five million regularly.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's fine, but think it starts to have condeminium.

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<v Speaker 2>In your personal accounts.

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<v Speaker 3>The tax man might come to you, and in fact

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<v Speaker 3>the bank reports you because now they say in the

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<v Speaker 3>administrative law that banks are not required by the law

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<v Speaker 3>to report suspected cast activity.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you understand.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the end of the day, it depends on

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<v Speaker 3>the volume of money that goes into your acco.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's also the discussion of the taxman.

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<v Speaker 3>To say, okay, we're going to call to explain to us,

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<v Speaker 3>but tell us where this money is coming from and

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<v Speaker 3>why do you receiving the money. The tax man is

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<v Speaker 3>not clear on who does that, but who you will

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<v Speaker 3>go for. They do not tax accounts. So the learning

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<v Speaker 3>personal accounts, the learning.

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<v Speaker 1>Point is do not do not mix your personal accounts exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if so, anything personal goes to my personal account,

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<v Speaker 1>anything business, okay account.

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<v Speaker 3>And if somebody is giving you money, that's a gift.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's undred million, they should put it there.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a gift and puts my personal account.

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<v Speaker 2>And you go see your personal accounts and it gives issues,

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<v Speaker 2>it gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 1>So in terms of the exemptions for the individual, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there are some not this five classical rent? What

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<v Speaker 1>you know is it now five hundred thousand or two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand?

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<v Speaker 2>Again about yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back now. So if I pay rent of five million,

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<v Speaker 1>is the cap five hundred?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that five hundred thousand?

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<v Speaker 4>Five?

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<v Speaker 2>Un towns?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So there's rent. I can claim my rent. I

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<v Speaker 1>can pay for life insurance myself and my wife reduction

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<v Speaker 1>for the premium. I can buy national housing fund. I

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<v Speaker 1>can use national health insurance scheme. What's the last one?

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<v Speaker 1>I can do retirement in the count. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>outside is five? Is there any other above the line

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<v Speaker 1>deduction to produce my income outside this five?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? So answer this is I'm thinking yourself employed.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, not just for CALU, just no limited.

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<v Speaker 3>Self employed self okay, So yourself employed okay, So yes,

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<v Speaker 3>there are business inductions for you. The same rule applies, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So any money that you use.

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<v Speaker 2>In making like anything that.

431
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<v Speaker 3>Falls into financial activity. So let's see mister can as

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<v Speaker 3>in person you use send your error to make your

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<v Speaker 3>business operations in a month. Let's say maybe you buy

434
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<v Speaker 3>and you say that you buy, you buy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me use this pertical example. Mister can't walks.

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<v Speaker 3>In his house because he's a freelancer. Right, you cannot

437
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<v Speaker 3>just say okay, because I'm a freelancer the utility bill,

438
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<v Speaker 3>you're not like all the utility bill or all the

439
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<v Speaker 3>lens bill and gift to tax man.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a politic.

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<v Speaker 3>That's man cannot poltic because they say that it has.

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<v Speaker 2>To be the only business.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you're using back of your house, are you

444
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<v Speaker 3>living for business? You cannot just put all of the deductions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So you have to partition it and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be clear.

447
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<v Speaker 3>So they think this is why that's man looking for

448
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<v Speaker 3>and they're looking for small fish or they're looking for

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<v Speaker 3>briefish to fry.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's gonna come for you.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you do all your business deduction, for example,

452
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<v Speaker 3>your your intimity.

453
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<v Speaker 2>Your internet or for people that.

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<v Speaker 3>Won't pay for listen, you pay for training, you can

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<v Speaker 3>deduce that.

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<v Speaker 2>You pay for what is it called you pay for

457
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<v Speaker 2>you maybe all these people that do graphic design, and

458
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<v Speaker 2>you have all your accounts that you pay for and

459
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<v Speaker 2>you have received.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, But anyway, you cannot make any deduction without receipts.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

462
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<v Speaker 3>Also you want to make mostly received if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the receipt I'm sorry, that's not just take.

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<v Speaker 1>You seriously want to be a paper receipts or receives No,

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<v Speaker 1>it is okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So the administrative law is talking about physicalization, right.

467
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<v Speaker 2>It says that everybody they.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to physicalization, meaning that every receipt has to be digital.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to see digitally. Right, So as a freelancer

470
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<v Speaker 3>you have to approach your digital receipts and show that. Okay,

471
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<v Speaker 3>if you want to do maybe you prepay for Figma

472
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<v Speaker 3>for example, because you designer, you have to put your.

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<v Speaker 2>Receipts twenty dollars every every month.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So you there and then you can do it received.

475
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<v Speaker 3>You're not.

476
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<v Speaker 2>You cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope again, So you slow down, somebody, you slow down

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<v Speaker 1>so they can follow, right, okay, so that question. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I buy Diesel, I'm at home, I use diesel.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course at home, I also do my for my computer.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you that received the mind gives me it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be digital or how does that work? Give

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<v Speaker 1>it to me? How does that digital?

484
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<v Speaker 2>You has to be digital? Your receipts.

485
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<v Speaker 1>Digital.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you go to buy diesel, give you your

487
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<v Speaker 3>received and gives it to you, you slap it and

488
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<v Speaker 3>then you take your take it, you upload you're finding

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<v Speaker 3>well as any individual file.

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<v Speaker 2>I think once a year.

491
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<v Speaker 3>I once a year. So when you want to fill

492
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<v Speaker 3>that year, you take all of your sets, everything that

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<v Speaker 3>you want to it needs to have a receipt. If

494
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<v Speaker 3>you receipts, you cannot adopt because you cannot do that

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<v Speaker 3>certain expense. And then you stay from your house. If

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<v Speaker 3>you may be your house is you pay a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of about rents because already you know it's already cant

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<v Speaker 3>at five hundreds. So what you say, I use my

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<v Speaker 3>house for business? The lords know less you take the

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred thousand, whether business or not. You cannot move

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<v Speaker 3>a five thousand thousand, So the rest is for the other.

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<v Speaker 2>So any other thing you use that money, it's regarded

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<v Speaker 2>as the expense.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me for me that I have to take

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<v Speaker 1>photo of the receipts, take a picture of scanning to

506
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<v Speaker 1>take photo and keep it. Okay, that's a many of

507
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<v Speaker 1>the many two business we don't do this, so yeah,

508
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<v Speaker 1>it's important.

509
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody needs to do it. Everybody needs to do all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So can we You can reduce your tax that

511
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<v Speaker 1>you can use your text?

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<v Speaker 3>Look fantastic, you can Is your a changeable income?

513
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, moved to the company. Now, yes, let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>the company. First thing, let's look at an income statement.

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<v Speaker 1>The first on the incomes is going to be revenues. Right,

516
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<v Speaker 1>what what can we say about revenues for a company

517
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<v Speaker 1>in terms of this new tax year? First of what

518
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<v Speaker 1>qualifies me as a small community pay tax or the exempt?

519
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<v Speaker 1>What is it give me? That? Is it one hundred million?

520
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<v Speaker 1>What qualifies me to pay.

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<v Speaker 4>Today?

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<v Speaker 3>We're not sure because they dispute what what the house fast?

523
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<v Speaker 2>So the president said that we don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So another copy is saying fifty million million, Another copy

525
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<v Speaker 3>is saying is one hundred million to fifty million? We

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<v Speaker 3>cannot really say what?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting again, I know the world that is to over.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the old law, it's still saying tournover that

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<v Speaker 1>means revenue is revenue or tono. Okay, So that does

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<v Speaker 1>means that if the sales I am making is that qualitify?

531
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<v Speaker 1>Is it sales that qualifies me as a company? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this sales assets together or just sales they don't qualifies?

533
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<v Speaker 1>So if I'm at home, I have a computer and

534
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<v Speaker 1>I have an aptop, I have it or my total

535
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<v Speaker 1>assets fifteen million Ira, but I get lucky, somebody wants

536
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<v Speaker 1>to come to an I just to do business and

537
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<v Speaker 1>the and the sales and the goal between and I

538
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<v Speaker 1>get the commission of a billion Ira. It's possible. Right,

539
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<v Speaker 1>I made a billionaire revenue on assets of fifteen million,

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<v Speaker 1>So do I I might do I qualify?

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<v Speaker 5>Or because I have now assets but your income but

542
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<v Speaker 5>I don't have a set. I don't have the assets.

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<v Speaker 3>But even if if if that money is basically as

544
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<v Speaker 3>an income, you qualify.

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<v Speaker 1>But my question of asking is this right? Because I

546
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<v Speaker 1>hear you say that the turnover, the revenue and the

547
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<v Speaker 1>assets they have to go together to qualify. Correct. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm saying that if I used to million

549
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<v Speaker 1>assets to generate one billion RA turnover, am I a

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<v Speaker 1>big company.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm going to But you're you're saying the

552
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<v Speaker 2>same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Your your revenue is your turnover, right, So that's revenue there,

554
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<v Speaker 3>that's fifteen billion. So you use let's say you you

555
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<v Speaker 3>invested a fifteen million error and you got million.

556
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<v Speaker 2>Of course you.

557
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<v Speaker 3>Fall into it doesn't matter, you fall into the taxicle category.

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<v Speaker 3>So once they're looking at they're looking at the revenue

559
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<v Speaker 3>you make, not the money you're using investing to make

560
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<v Speaker 3>That revenue is the revenue you make at the end

561
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<v Speaker 3>of the month or at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what government is taxing you on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but what I'm saying is that so both of

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<v Speaker 1>them have to take qualified. So what if one of

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<v Speaker 1>them does not qualify and the other one qualified. If

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<v Speaker 1>I have revenue of one has the meeting, okay, just

567
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<v Speaker 1>one has the meetings. Okay, okay, Okay, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>was going. Okay, So let's so with let's income. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think if there's anything I can talk think about

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<v Speaker 1>outside income. Let's now go to expenses or is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything with income you don't talking around Before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to expense this, then any other issue with income as

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<v Speaker 1>a person has to be aware of the taxman, say

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<v Speaker 1>we have to file income or please go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at my slice because I think I was

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<v Speaker 3>talking of and I wanted to Okay, okay, so very

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<v Speaker 3>important is I was that from your operating the door tables?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, But we're going to expenses now, right, So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not. Let's so not with don revenues I made

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<v Speaker 1>in one hundred million revenues right now? Expenses? Now, what

583
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<v Speaker 1>is the more self expenses? What's the general language?

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<v Speaker 3>So letter you make what is it called hundred million revenue? Right,

585
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:19.319
<v Speaker 3>so do not say that your expense there will be

586
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<v Speaker 3>and what is it called expert Your expense doctible will

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<v Speaker 3>be adamable.

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<v Speaker 2>No, your expense doctable will be all of your groups.

589
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 3>Profits, costal sales divided by costal.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're going to you're going to accounted for us

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<v Speaker 1>just to say and exclusively, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, okay, let me make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me holy an exclusively. So essentially, if

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<v Speaker 1>I do any if I have an expense that I

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<v Speaker 1>used to make that one one hundred million, I can

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<v Speaker 1>claim it. Is that the simple way to say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, you can no issues received.

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<v Speaker 2>You can claim it.

599
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and your tax can also be zero as well.

600
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:09.359
<v Speaker 2>You can claim it.

601
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<v Speaker 3>You can make come over four hundred million, and if

602
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<v Speaker 3>you have a good accountants legally right, no you're not.

603
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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing illegal about this.

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<v Speaker 3>If you in cure the expenses, they are holy and

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<v Speaker 3>they are exclusive.

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<v Speaker 2>You can prove it.

607
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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day, you can end up

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<v Speaker 2>paying zero on.

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<v Speaker 3>Taxation because you're not going to spend your money, like

611
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<v Speaker 3>you have to take away.

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00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Your expenses out of your revenue. You have to take

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<v Speaker 2>away your.

614
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Expenses, so the taxman is not looking at your revenue saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>although it's like a snapshot to say, okay, you made

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<v Speaker 3>one undred million if for example, now, okay, this is

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<v Speaker 3>where the presumptiveness is coming. So I'll go back to

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<v Speaker 3>that point again.

619
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<v Speaker 2>So the law says.

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<v Speaker 3>That the taxman has the right or the discretion to

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<v Speaker 3>look at people that fall into the presumptive tax. So

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<v Speaker 3>preson's they The law says that if a person right

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<v Speaker 3>that does not keep an accounting books now doesn't know

624
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<v Speaker 3>an account Let's say you're enough, you don't know nothing

625
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<v Speaker 3>about accounting, and you have a business account and lets

626
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<v Speaker 3>that business account you tend millionaire to study business and

627
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<v Speaker 3>the business now makes twenty billion, right, do not says

628
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<v Speaker 3>in this case, do not can look at your whole

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<v Speaker 3>account statement because you don't have records for anything, and

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<v Speaker 3>do I will tell you, okay, for this money, you

631
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:31.839
<v Speaker 3>will either pay six percent.

632
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<v Speaker 2>Or you'll pay eighty percent.

633
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<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't file, they would present no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no no no, you failed.

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<v Speaker 3>You failed, but not filing. You love physical lives because

636
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<v Speaker 3>you do not know accounting, so they're not spending lives

637
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<v Speaker 3>in you for not knowing accounting and not getting an accountant. Wow,

638
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<v Speaker 3>So if you do not know accounting, you do not

639
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<v Speaker 3>get an accountant, and you just say the let'sical addition. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>it's easy to just give the no man, okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>no money. What happens is I do it as well

642
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<v Speaker 3>in my former businesses.

643
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<v Speaker 2>I just give my business.

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<v Speaker 3>Statements, my business and my segments of account from my

645
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<v Speaker 3>business accounts, and then it goes through the taxation processes.

646
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, and I pay my tax.

647
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.920
<v Speaker 3>But now it cannot be done this way anymore.

648
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, you need somebody to do your proper accounts.

649
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.159
<v Speaker 3>If you say, oh, I don't have any statement. I

650
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:26.679
<v Speaker 3>don't have any records. I don't have any receipts. I

651
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 3>just have transaction records in my accounts. So the taxman

652
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 3>cannot look at that you are compassing these accounts six

653
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<v Speaker 3>percent in basic percent on your total turnover.

654
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 2>For your total turnover.

655
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's be very clear what you're saying, and I hope

656
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>folks know what you're saying. If you do not, if

657
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 1>you make all this profits, I do not have a

658
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:52.039
<v Speaker 1>professional that would arrange your books of accounts and file

659
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 1>those taxes the taxman. Even if you file and you

660
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:58.320
<v Speaker 1>just don't be the taxman can say we disagree, we

661
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:00.840
<v Speaker 1>just filing. I would have do give you a different

662
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>tax to pay. The point here is that you've got

663
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:07.159
<v Speaker 1>to seek advice. If you can't just assume that there's

664
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>debit credit and five taxes, You've got to seek advice.

665
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Make sure someone that is trained is looking at your books.

666
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm hearing from you here.

667
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, you have to. You have to because this.

668
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Is where the question received.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, before you go ahead, someone is just asking here

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<v Speaker 1>if I do graphics design, I'm at home, do I

671
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:36.559
<v Speaker 1>qualify as on the depressional Let's leave Why it's asking

672
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.079
<v Speaker 1>is that because the tax will exempts small business below,

673
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.320
<v Speaker 1>it's in a ton of accept professional services. So it's

674
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>saying it's graphic designing a professional service.

675
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 3>So how do we know?

676
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>How do you know?

677
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 3>Let's even forget about whether it's professional or not.

678
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Right, you make income. That's what it's talking about. The

679
00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>income you make.

680
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Right, whether you say is professional or it's own professional,

681
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:04.199
<v Speaker 3>that's that doesn't really matter. You're a graphic designer in

682
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 3>your house and you make an income that is less

683
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:11.719
<v Speaker 3>than the taxable brand, so defer taxes. I think it's

684
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:16.880
<v Speaker 3>for twenty million and above paid twenty percent or twenty

685
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 3>five million or twenty million. So we're not sure that's

686
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:22.719
<v Speaker 3>year because we don't know which one that we're working

687
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.000
<v Speaker 3>with because the federal government had then, so we all

688
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:26.760
<v Speaker 3>know what's going on there, So we don't know. But

689
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.320
<v Speaker 3>let's add you with twenty five million, and you are

690
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 3>you are a.

691
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Graphic designer in your house.

692
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.280
<v Speaker 3>As long as you don't make up to twenty five million, right,

693
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.559
<v Speaker 3>you don't pay tax, but you won't file the fact

694
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:41.360
<v Speaker 3>that you don't make twenty five million doesn't mean that you're.

695
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Going to file your taxes. Even if it's zero.

696
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.599
<v Speaker 3>The law requires you to file your tax. So as

697
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 3>a graphic designer in your house, you only file once

698
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 3>a year. Right, so once a year you go to

699
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 3>your state where you live. You have to file through

700
00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:00.599
<v Speaker 3>the state higher race. You go to your state. Please, everybody,

701
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:01.840
<v Speaker 3>if you're listening to me, go.

702
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>And get your team number.

703
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 1>You need it.

704
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 3>You get your team number, you file right, you'll see

705
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 3>the process or you will.

706
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 2>See how they ask you to find it.

707
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.400
<v Speaker 3>So, whether or not you you make what is it

708
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:19.079
<v Speaker 3>called you make twenty million, that's less than the average

709
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:20.159
<v Speaker 3>that government wants to tax.

710
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.199
<v Speaker 2>You need to stay for your tax regardless.

711
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.599
<v Speaker 3>But yes, if you fall below then you don't pay

712
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:27.440
<v Speaker 3>any tax. Yeah, so they only talking about people that

713
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 3>are both.

714
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>The threshold, not people.

715
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:33.840
<v Speaker 3>That are below the threshold, and sayingle for companies.

716
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:36.559
<v Speaker 1>As well, gotcha? So I think So, I think where

717
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 1>he's going to this, right, all the stuff we're talking

718
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>about exempts professional affairs like lawyers and accountants. They can

719
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>actually claim most of these things we're talking about. That's

720
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.199
<v Speaker 1>what he's going to So I think it's trying to

721
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 1>ask it. A graphic designer is going to be looked

722
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 1>at as the same as a lawyer and as an

723
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 1>account I don't think. So that's why I don't think.

724
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 3>But they know doesn't really focus on that because he's

725
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.159
<v Speaker 3>quoting more particular place, but he's not looking at the

726
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 3>other lord, the other things that preceded and the one

727
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:07.599
<v Speaker 3>that goes after it. Right, what is this company incompact?

728
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<v Speaker 3>Is if you make below a certain threashore, which is

729
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.119
<v Speaker 3>either a five million or fifteen millions.

730
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>You don't pay tax.

731
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 3>So whether you're your you're a graphic designer that's in

732
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:19.039
<v Speaker 3>your house, are you.

733
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Ready below that?

734
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:21.159
<v Speaker 3>You have zero?

735
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 2>So the fact that you're you only make you know

736
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:24.679
<v Speaker 2>you don't miss that threshold.

737
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 3>You see me to fare and you're seeing to father

738
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:27.360
<v Speaker 3>that zero.

739
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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, but more we're going we're gonna stop like eleven

740
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 1>get questions. But let me also just let's go back

741
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>to income. What if I what if that company sold

742
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>a building that I bought the building a towndred narra,

743
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 1>they sell it for a thousand just they make capital

744
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>against tax? What's the low say about capital against tax?

745
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yes, so let's go to capital gains tacks. Give

746
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 3>me a minute, So capital against tacks the norse what

747
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 3>the losses there is if you buy a building, right,

748
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 3>there's schedules.

749
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 2>For the capital gains.

750
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean for the capital allowance you have.

751
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 2>So when you buy, you buy like.

752
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:11.199
<v Speaker 3>A building and less any building is five hundred million.

753
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 2>The law says you have the first.

754
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Schedule, which is I think is about ten percent.

755
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go through.

756
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:23.559
<v Speaker 3>My slight to get that it is about ten percent.

757
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 3>So it has two points, right, So the first schedule

758
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.280
<v Speaker 3>and the annual schedule. So you have to do the

759
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 3>first one and the second one. I think all of

760
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:35.079
<v Speaker 3>this will be twenty five percent. Then you dedoct it

761
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 3>gradually over a period of time. You don't take all

762
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 3>of the money if you buy your house, you don't

763
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.559
<v Speaker 3>dedot it all of it from your your business expense.

764
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>You have to adopt this baits by bas.

765
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Yearly and I think the first schedule ten and fifteen.

766
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Then I think it's twenty five percent, So you don't

767
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.360
<v Speaker 3>deduct if you buy a house of five hundred million,

768
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.480
<v Speaker 3>you don't wish you to your accounting and you doc

769
00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 3>all of them for capital allowance. There's a there's potential

770
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 3>that you would issue buying house if you make capital expenditure.

771
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 1>So So there's capital allowance when I invest correct, right,

772
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>when I invest in in capital assets, house tract or

773
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.519
<v Speaker 1>what it works, I get capitle allowance more or less.

774
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:21.039
<v Speaker 1>Then if I make a profit on the sale of

775
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>an asset, I pay tax on that seal. That's what

776
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to like. If I sell my head office,

777
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I pay profit on that seal. If I make a profit,

778
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 1>that's capital gains. That's not asking. So that's also taxable. Right,

779
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the gain on the seal of an asset is taxable.

780
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is taxable.

781
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:40.559
<v Speaker 1>It is taxable.

782
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's is taxable.

783
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.639
<v Speaker 3>So they say capital gain is taxable, but it's taxable.

784
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.840
<v Speaker 3>It's it's taxable by ten percent of the profits.

785
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:53.719
<v Speaker 2>But before you go to the capital gains tax, I

786
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.639
<v Speaker 2>think it's I think it's no.

787
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Subject to ten percent.

788
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Capital gains captial gains and losses.

789
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 3>No, it's object ten percent percent ten percent okay ten

790
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 3>all right?

791
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, fine, so that's ten percent.

792
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, before the aroound of time, let's just start briefly

793
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>on V eighty and withholding tax work us through because

794
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:18.800
<v Speaker 1>lots of people are now saying I'm on Twitter, Oh

795
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 1>I went to the market, I got charge with V eighty,

796
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>walk me through V eighty and withholding tax as a

797
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>small semi who can I just I have the chart.

798
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>V eighty is mandatory, So what's the worst die walk

799
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:34.679
<v Speaker 1>me to?

800
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

801
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So first of all, if people want to ask you,

802
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 3>if people want to take a V eighty from you,

803
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.960
<v Speaker 3>please ask them. There's the government website that you can

804
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:51.360
<v Speaker 3>confirmed eighty the date number is correct. So if you

805
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.480
<v Speaker 3>want to come and buy services from you, or you're

806
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.480
<v Speaker 3>buying something from letter that you're buying food from me,

807
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.800
<v Speaker 3>and I'm telling you that, oh I'm putting V eighty

808
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.880
<v Speaker 3>the first to look at the receipts, right, or the

809
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 3>receipts people that are authorized to get digital connectivity from

810
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:11.199
<v Speaker 3>other people, from other businesses or individuals, you have to

811
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:14.559
<v Speaker 3>be registered first by fire race.

812
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 2>You have to also not just being registered for you register.

813
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>You need to read a treashold.

814
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:19.360
<v Speaker 3>As a business, you need.

815
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 2>To be doing a certain turnover, right.

816
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 3>You need to be doing at please twenty five million

817
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 3>turnover for you to be able to charge V eighty

818
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:27.960
<v Speaker 3>your customers.

819
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, hold on, I said in a shop in

820
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>a shop in a bar that is just making five

821
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:39.760
<v Speaker 1>million direct tonover. No you can't touch the eighty.

822
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:41.960
<v Speaker 3>No, you cannot have it. And you know what, it's

823
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.039
<v Speaker 3>easy to find out, right, it's very easy to find out.

824
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>You can go, I will what will have?

825
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:49.679
<v Speaker 3>What will happen is I think my social media hand

826
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<v Speaker 3>li is here and the questions please this listen. I

827
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 3>know you can hear me and my pay pers, my

828
00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:59.760
<v Speaker 3>social media president paypers write down these things for me

829
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 3>so I will give it to you later. There's a

830
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:07.719
<v Speaker 3>website where people can go and search for companies that

831
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 3>are authorized a government website to pay v So, if

832
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 3>somebody is giving you a receipt, look at the receipts,

833
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.039
<v Speaker 3>look at the receipts number. If that person is not authorized, well,

834
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 3>once you go and put it in the government website,

835
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:23.679
<v Speaker 3>you will see they will tell you that this person

836
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 3>is not authorized to take vity from you, do not

837
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:29.880
<v Speaker 3>pay them VIT. So if the person is not authorized,

838
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 3>it's easy to find out. You don't need to make arguements.

839
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Do they go to the website, you have your phone

840
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 3>put their viaty numbers. So the first thing you ask

841
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.360
<v Speaker 3>them is do you have your viating number? If they

842
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:41.039
<v Speaker 3>say yes, serviating number. If they say yes, they give

843
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 3>it to me, let me search.

844
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 2>You search it.

845
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 3>If it's not correct, do not pay them, viating they're

846
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.599
<v Speaker 3>not authorized like government to take vity from you.

847
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Second one I heard also that as a company,

848
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.239
<v Speaker 1>as an semi company, right, if you if you pay

849
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:57.159
<v Speaker 1>for V eighty or if you buy an asset and

850
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 1>that person did not pay import duty of the eighty

851
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:03.760
<v Speaker 1>on that ass that you cannot claim it.

852
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, yes, So for example, I pay as a company. Right,

853
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.679
<v Speaker 3>when you make expense from the company, they have vaty

854
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 3>inputs and v the outputs. Right, So the VTY input

855
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.719
<v Speaker 3>is when you you you you buy, when you buy

856
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:26.639
<v Speaker 3>from somebody, right, when you buy from somebody and the person.

857
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Is removing you pay, you pay.

858
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.920
<v Speaker 3>It's a let's say I bought goods and then there's

859
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<v Speaker 3>a VI eighty of seven percents. I recorded that in

860
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:39.599
<v Speaker 3>my I recorded in my accountant when I buy goods

861
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:42.159
<v Speaker 3>as a company, maybe as a company that I purchased,

862
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:44.440
<v Speaker 3>and there's a VTY on it.

863
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 2>I also keep it on my record. So I go

864
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 2>to v input and output.

865
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:51.719
<v Speaker 3>I did the VAT that I have spent as a

866
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 3>company from what I have bought.

867
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 2>And what I will have sold. Right, when I did this,

868
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 2>the balances what I get to the governments.

869
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:06.119
<v Speaker 3>So let's if somebody has bought it and so and

870
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:10.559
<v Speaker 3>the person did not pay proper vit, I cannot pay

871
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 3>it because the receipt is a correct So this is

872
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:14.719
<v Speaker 3>why it's very very important.

873
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Before you pay viating on anything. Right are your company

874
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 2>it's only company thats are this company that hass that.

875
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 3>You only want to authorized to collect doct viated back

876
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 3>from the typesman and attachment gives it deviated back.

877
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 2>You have those mvity output and inputs and you have

878
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 2>an extra.

879
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.159
<v Speaker 3>When you finding your tax right, you will pay you

880
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:42.559
<v Speaker 3>subtract from your companity.

881
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:43.079
<v Speaker 6>I see.

882
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 3>So it's not like government is giving you money. Goverment

883
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.840
<v Speaker 3>is not giving you money. It is your taxable income.

884
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 3>So if you're going to buy you the raator from

885
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 3>somebody that does not pay via your that gene and

886
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 3>then the person has not given you VID to pay

887
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.760
<v Speaker 3>and you paid it, you cannot adopt it because in

888
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:01.559
<v Speaker 3>that invoice the inverse is not.

889
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Needed to defer system. So you cannot adopt it and you.

890
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Cannot claim it.

891
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.000
<v Speaker 3>So this is why for me to go online as.

892
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Search to be sure that the number of debt is

893
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:13.920
<v Speaker 2>correct and.

894
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Their authority dev p perfect. Let's let's pause here so

895
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:21.159
<v Speaker 1>we can get folks and ask questions, because if you

896
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 1>be listening, we've we're talking about personal fans and SME

897
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 1>taxes in our tax space today we've got the lemma

898
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:30.800
<v Speaker 1>also sharing those insights. I want to make it a

899
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:32.760
<v Speaker 1>bit of a practical session, not so much on the

900
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>act from all more of the operations for the SME folks.

901
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Let me get an optimist of the universe to ask

902
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.639
<v Speaker 1>this question. We've got better mind myself here and I

903
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>will do better and let's do actually doing a fantastic.

904
00:46:56.039 --> 00:47:04.880
<v Speaker 7>Well that if I buy and there's captive apposition, there's

905
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 7>an apposition on this talk.

906
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>So if I sell this dog to football, I think

907
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:16.079
<v Speaker 1>there is limit what goes out there. You don't have

908
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>another one. But what was the The one I did

909
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:24.400
<v Speaker 1>see was and fifty and ten right one fifty with

910
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:28.559
<v Speaker 1>the total Look at it that in terms of a

911
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>gross opte. Look at say, let's say the whole share

912
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>to be brass one million, but the profit makes transactually

913
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.559
<v Speaker 1>has to be ten. It's pa the captive against below

914
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing. The only one about captare against for

915
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>now it's mostly for big boys in code that the

916
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:54.840
<v Speaker 1>tired mm hmm look food and did say for transaction

917
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.760
<v Speaker 1>for the transaction. Yeah, so if you are you meet

918
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>that leads.

919
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.800
<v Speaker 3>The treashould well going to charge your own capital gains?

920
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Right if everybody you need an accounts. It's not just

921
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 3>capital gains. There are capital losses. So capital gains is

922
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:15.519
<v Speaker 3>placed against capital losses.

923
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.920
<v Speaker 2>So even though you've made gains, but maybe you're also

924
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.320
<v Speaker 2>made loss. Maybe you brought.

925
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Something else that's also a capital ascess that made loss.

926
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.559
<v Speaker 2>You're good also deducted from the capital gains.

927
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 3>And also remember that as a business you also have

928
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 3>business expenses.

929
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:37.039
<v Speaker 2>So in a financial year, even if you're a freelancer.

930
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.599
<v Speaker 3>Right, you have business expenses. So what the I thing

931
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 3>you did that made you get that capital gain? Maybe

932
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 3>you you did you paid this as soon as you

933
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:51.280
<v Speaker 3>have your because comment it's won't femium, it's still that. Yes,

934
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.639
<v Speaker 3>it's bought to be that at the end of the

935
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:57.079
<v Speaker 3>day if you have an account that that you'll go

936
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 3>through your deductions, your business deductions, and you might end

937
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:01.960
<v Speaker 3>up being little or nothing.

938
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:07.320
<v Speaker 2>The profit are less on capital gains, not so say

939
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:09.159
<v Speaker 2>like that against fix.

940
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:11.360
<v Speaker 3>What capital gains, you get that money you see, then

941
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:12.880
<v Speaker 3>you got this place or world?

942
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Have you seem to make these erophensis.

943
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Declar capital as you don't come do we deserving commons

944
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:26.079
<v Speaker 1>where you can only claim passive that is passive. Can

945
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>you go and take capital gains loss and apply to

946
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 1>your orga.

947
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 3>Loss trying to cut at game fix?

948
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.639
<v Speaker 2>So yes, a so have that asset. Let's say you do.

949
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:43.039
<v Speaker 3>Made money right, but me inchuraging yourso made this your

950
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:44.280
<v Speaker 3>your your.

951
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Loss of your digital assets. So digital asset loss is.

952
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Put against this assets distinct for capital and gates as

953
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.599
<v Speaker 3>well on the meetings right against loss.

954
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:59.239
<v Speaker 2>So the capital that success, it's good for the assist.

955
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.760
<v Speaker 2>So as soon that you made losses and I feel

956
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:04.159
<v Speaker 2>that you expenses.

957
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 1>That's so for optimists, I think we're going together. Is

958
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:08.599
<v Speaker 1>that optimist number one?

959
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:10.000
<v Speaker 8>You have to do it.

960
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:13.760
<v Speaker 1>You have to do one fifty to qualify. And also

961
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.679
<v Speaker 1>said usually talk a loss. So if you sell your

962
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.679
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote shares right and you make a loss, you

963
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.559
<v Speaker 1>can pack that loss. If you don't make a profit,

964
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you can use that loss there with taxable profit you

965
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>will that's still yea even.

966
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Your your business expenses. And also I will save this

967
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 2>in right.

968
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 3>So my company financial company as well, we are specialized

969
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 3>in taxation, so.

970
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to We're doing the law for you

971
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 2>so you don't have to do it.

972
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.880
<v Speaker 3>So if you go to pay packs, you download us,

973
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:52.480
<v Speaker 3>you use us ek me. It's just like a click

974
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:55.960
<v Speaker 3>of the bottom. Just qualify for capital loss. Yes, no,

975
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:59.239
<v Speaker 3>you will see everything once you put your your your

976
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 3>income for the for the year, or your revenue for

977
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:06.519
<v Speaker 3>the year. Everything is automatically calculated for you as a

978
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:08.639
<v Speaker 3>freelance so it wants and capital.

979
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:11.960
<v Speaker 2>So all you're asking me, if you.

980
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Are using our products, our digital products, then taxation is

981
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:19.960
<v Speaker 3>made easy for you. If your business your business expenses

982
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:20.440
<v Speaker 3>as well.

983
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, bide the way for businesses.

984
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.079
<v Speaker 3>Please, If you have any business and you have more

985
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:29.199
<v Speaker 3>than three more than three staffs, remember then says that

986
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:31.239
<v Speaker 3>even if you have three staff you have.

987
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:33.280
<v Speaker 2>To give one percent of your payroll to it.

988
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:37.159
<v Speaker 3>If oh payroll is composed, you need to do payroom

989
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:41.159
<v Speaker 3>because it little the end of this not even February.

990
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:43.800
<v Speaker 3>From this end of this month, you need to have

991
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:48.239
<v Speaker 3>payro a SAP if you don't have their penalties.

992
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:49.960
<v Speaker 2>For you as a business and you will pay it.

993
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Paid.

994
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So from the end of the months, whatever thing

995
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:56.159
<v Speaker 2>you do, if you have.

996
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:59.360
<v Speaker 3>An accountant or your brother's an accountant, or you won't

997
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.199
<v Speaker 3>payer to do it for you, you can you know,

998
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 3>register or the ears for Peru, and then you can

999
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:08.119
<v Speaker 3>stream like all of your businesses, and then you do

1000
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:08.880
<v Speaker 3>your perial for.

1001
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Your staff because at the end of the most bass, if.

1002
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.440
<v Speaker 3>You do not talk from your staff, you're going to

1003
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:16.679
<v Speaker 3>pay it by yourself.

1004
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:20.599
<v Speaker 2>As a business. This is good to your profit.

1005
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you must be I got you. Let's go

1006
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to bed Optimists. Ben, You've got the floor. Then I walks, Yeah,

1007
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:34.519
<v Speaker 1>my friend.

1008
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:39.039
<v Speaker 6>Thank you very much to them. You really touched a

1009
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 6>lot of taking below blending loads, you know list guy

1010
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:53.239
<v Speaker 6>calling from a broder, compliance aspects that you mentioned in

1011
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:54.679
<v Speaker 6>training for night year.

1012
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 4>And there's also the any sight Ye yes.

1013
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes we're still paying those things. But we're still paying

1014
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.199
<v Speaker 1>those things with dout the things.

1015
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:06.639
<v Speaker 4>It's a couple of things. India and SID.

1016
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you try to be a contract they have a BP.

1017
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 4>You have to do in this business is what rooms

1018
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.400
<v Speaker 4>around these things. So you can't go work with the government.

1019
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:20.360
<v Speaker 6>You can't work with the government if you plants in

1020
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:21.960
<v Speaker 6>everything including your taxi.

1021
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:24.679
<v Speaker 4>If you don't have all these.

1022
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 6>Things, then fun that goverment which have no entire company,

1023
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 6>you know, So all these things are very very very important.

1024
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:36.519
<v Speaker 4>One of the the key came to clarify.

1025
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 6>There was a question can ask can you said, if

1026
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:43.519
<v Speaker 6>my assets let's say twenty million now as a company,

1027
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:47.280
<v Speaker 6>you know, and and I get and I do your.

1028
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 4>Business and I get paid one billion, I still WiFi

1029
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.840
<v Speaker 4>for d C, I T shoots and others, So can

1030
00:53:56.760 --> 00:54:01.480
<v Speaker 4>one doesn't counts? You know, said changed, he won't be

1031
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:06.719
<v Speaker 4>I was there immediately, that won't be. So your assets

1032
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:07.360
<v Speaker 4>are no longer.

1033
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:11.039
<v Speaker 1>That's a good, that's good.

1034
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 3>That's so.

1035
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.519
<v Speaker 1>So you are saying that that cash, that cash becomes

1036
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the aster that they're using. Looking at cash, you're looking

1037
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>at okay, okay, okay, mixed mixed, thank yeah, you know

1038
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:35.480
<v Speaker 1>said you are right out. He would have said, oh,

1039
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:39.119
<v Speaker 1>his as is fifty miller than a computer. But now

1040
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.119
<v Speaker 1>you are saying the toll by itself then goes from

1041
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:46.320
<v Speaker 1>income because I hear you. I hear you, but still you.

1042
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 4>Know, I hear you. Liquid position to reflective.

1043
00:54:55.039 --> 00:55:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Escape there Okay, that was just on my slide.

1044
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Now, So why you want to do your business deductions

1045
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:08.440
<v Speaker 2>to do like you're allowing your fits. You know you

1046
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:10.119
<v Speaker 2>start from your act you said, profect, go.

1047
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:13.719
<v Speaker 3>A little bit of accounting, right when you deduct allowing

1048
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 3>your allowable experenses, you can also deduce your interests.

1049
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is important. Let me touch you on this.

1050
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:24.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing this off it like there are things that

1051
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:26.639
<v Speaker 3>already know offer that I'm looking at my slides. I'm

1052
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:29.880
<v Speaker 3>getting a big confused. Okay, So for what is it

1053
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:33.119
<v Speaker 3>called interest? For example, now you're a business person. This

1054
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:34.119
<v Speaker 3>is a perfect example.

1055
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:38.559
<v Speaker 2>You're a business person, right, you grow money too your company?

1056
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Hm.

1057
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 3>You know that when as a business person you grow

1058
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:43.880
<v Speaker 3>men into your company.

1059
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:48.960
<v Speaker 2>This is a capital capet. It's a capital expenditure.

1060
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>You learn your company money, you learning.

1061
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Of course computer as a person.

1062
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes, because anybody you invest in your company, proud, it's

1063
00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:02.800
<v Speaker 3>not free money.

1064
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Because it's.

1065
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Make the point, make the point the point I can.

1066
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Let me, let me let me say, let me say

1067
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:12.960
<v Speaker 3>it's pleasing.

1068
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:17.199
<v Speaker 2>And then you have a company. Right, you invest money

1069
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:20.800
<v Speaker 2>in your company. You invested me of the company. I

1070
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 2>not bring that money to the company.

1071
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Are you giving the.

1072
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Company from the point ahead?

1073
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, let me make it okay, okay, So once

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<v Speaker 3>you what is it called? Once you pro money as

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<v Speaker 3>a business to the company, right, what did not looking

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<v Speaker 3>at They're not talking about related persons and thought party loan.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember all business experies hundred person the doctable. But loans

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<v Speaker 3>are interested the doctable. Right, so those interest that the

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<v Speaker 3>doc from the loan, it's hundred persons collecting that lo

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<v Speaker 3>probably thought party. So if you collected you know, from

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<v Speaker 3>the bank, you dedot the interesting. But if you collet

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<v Speaker 3>that alone, if I give my business paper swifty little,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a cap what I can call it?

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<v Speaker 4>For each year?

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<v Speaker 1>What you can claim?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes that I can claim that can clea back?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting? Interesting is it bank?

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00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.519
<v Speaker 3>And I can think all the interest on the persons

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00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:29.119
<v Speaker 3>I can claim it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the losses any song payable by way of interest

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<v Speaker 1>on debt employed in generating the income of the trade

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<v Speaker 1>because the vocation is allowable. That's what the lawyer is says.

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<v Speaker 1>So you saying that if I do this exact same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have the one not the intro debt is

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<v Speaker 1>coming from me, not from a third party. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>claim a percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that exactly.

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00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:56.119
<v Speaker 3>You can later you can claim it like continuously, but

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<v Speaker 3>you're not going to claim this immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to claim me.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's another thing also the talk about capital allow

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<v Speaker 3>us right is to talk of adjusted profits to tho

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00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:12.000
<v Speaker 3>of adjusted profits. So you cannot just also clean all

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00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:15.039
<v Speaker 3>of them at homes. So what you finish through your

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00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.559
<v Speaker 3>accounting and you have to tod of the adjust.

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<v Speaker 2>Profits, right, you will not take to that. It's what

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00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you not take as capital.

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<v Speaker 1>Allows questions for you existing in your app or in

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00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:29.360
<v Speaker 1>other apps. So because also the guys were telling me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're talking about.

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00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Like everything I'm telling you right now, I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what capital to do for us. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>so as a as an SM guy, what I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 1>you say is that if I want to finance my company,

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00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's preferable. If it were preferable. Now, if I

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00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:51.239
<v Speaker 1>go to a bank, I can clean the interest as

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00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.639
<v Speaker 1>a deductible. If I go to myself, if I use

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00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:57.519
<v Speaker 1>my own money, I can't clean a deductible. Hundred person

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<v Speaker 1>say the person understood, under, okay, let's let's get ben.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's should you.

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<v Speaker 4>Good evening were for this space.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I go on.

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<v Speaker 9>Let me ready the uh the discussions tonight. But I

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00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:31.199
<v Speaker 9>want to quickly ask a question before I go on

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<v Speaker 9>to what I want to discuss is this space is

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00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:36.039
<v Speaker 9>on sort space?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah there, if you look at it, you stay powered

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<v Speaker 1>by past. It's down the fly correct. Okay, So don't

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<v Speaker 1>let me do let me do it too much on that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just want to try and fight like one or.

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<v Speaker 9>Two peas that she has mentioned during because of our discussion.

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<v Speaker 9>But I think for the clarification sy and for the

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01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:03.400
<v Speaker 9>listeners so they won't use it.

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<v Speaker 1>They will use it.

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<v Speaker 2>We have.

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<v Speaker 10>The new set of law Niger's appreciation that NATS Jennings

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<v Speaker 10>Revenue Board establishments.

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<v Speaker 1>Hats please it would be better going forward, sorry to

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01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:26.760
<v Speaker 1>be quoting from those.

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<v Speaker 9>Laws because from during because of your discussion, you should

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<v Speaker 9>being twenty five million.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, maybe this is a slip off from.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know said, we don't know what it is

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<v Speaker 2>because for the.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry for the for the sake of C.

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<v Speaker 4>I T.

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01:00:58.239 --> 01:00:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Millionaire.

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<v Speaker 9>Based on this promotion of the sex season past art

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01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:07.039
<v Speaker 9>you can read what was the definition of most hours,

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01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:11.519
<v Speaker 9>definition of the large company or small company? And it's

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01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:13.760
<v Speaker 9>for your red in session two or.

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<v Speaker 1>Two or that say a Ganta's art. So that's that

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01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:24.719
<v Speaker 1>on that and some of the key segments made. If

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<v Speaker 1>you you as you as a pass payer, you have

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01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you have.

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<v Speaker 11>Liberty to engage the task practitioner's person and account like

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<v Speaker 11>you said under the Professions of other provision of the

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<v Speaker 11>Passion Anty Session six sub section six one and two.

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<v Speaker 1>Please you can further read that. So you engage a practitioner,

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01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:51.519
<v Speaker 1>it's not proposed to you.

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<v Speaker 9>You have to be good and hands that can or

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01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:59.079
<v Speaker 9>going forward before you can have somebody jas an deal

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<v Speaker 9>agent that well, now you have to be in chatter accountants,

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<v Speaker 9>c C and member before you practice starts going for

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<v Speaker 9>It's the same whichever one that you have that is organized,

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<v Speaker 9>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me let me what what are you saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying that if I betrayed and I have an

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<v Speaker 1>APP that tells me how to do with to tax,

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01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:28.039
<v Speaker 1>I can't use that your satisfied sho It's not satisfied.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not it's not satisfied. The app is

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<v Speaker 1>not certified. I have an app canculated.

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<v Speaker 9>When you want to fire your records with the new side,

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<v Speaker 9>they should be organized, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Not filing with the app you're not filing with Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me know. I was going to stop

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01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:52.920
<v Speaker 1>because again the space is an space, but that I

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01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:55.840
<v Speaker 1>hear a folk that don't really know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Level.

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<v Speaker 1>Let let me land, let me learn. Okay, learn, So

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<v Speaker 1>when we are quoting tax load tax load, that people

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01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:09.840
<v Speaker 1>don't follow those things. People don't understand. This fort your field.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's your field. So yes, you understand that. What

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do in this space. Today's side is

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01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:17.639
<v Speaker 1>to bring up sort that knows that I talk to

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01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.079
<v Speaker 1>people and say, hey, this is what you have to do,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm doing after it. Obviously you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to file with an accountant, but you've got to understand

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<v Speaker 1>what you are doing day to day. If you go

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01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.079
<v Speaker 1>to the marketing should go to the markets in al Baba.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have something that tells you and tracks

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01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:40.719
<v Speaker 1>your revenues, that tracks your expenses, that aligns with your

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01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:43.559
<v Speaker 1>business strategy. Never talk about if you want to pay

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<v Speaker 1>VI eight check AV eighty is whatever allots to check

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<v Speaker 1>ev eity the guys charging vity. We don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait for that guy to be quote unquote tax compliant

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<v Speaker 1>before we go to that app to see that guy

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<v Speaker 1>charging U V eighty taxed fire. We've got to do

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<v Speaker 1>our homework. If you want to file, you even not

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01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:06.719
<v Speaker 1>to do this tax Act. You cannot file with the

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01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:09.719
<v Speaker 1>non chatter accounter, can you? Even in the past act,

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<v Speaker 1>you still have to go back to chudge the account.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't want to get to.

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<v Speaker 3>On this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah with this that what you say is factual, but

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<v Speaker 1>you still have to file the judge, the accountant. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't wake up and don't say it. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>file and say, okay, take If you do that, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into the fire. That's what emphasized. If

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't file and you do it wrongly, you are

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<v Speaker 1>opening yourself up to presult your tax number.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to come back for the LEMMA response, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I want.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me terify you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you talk about the app, remember it app

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<v Speaker 3>that you see what's there chatter account working behind the scene, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not just the app as staybacks.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people working there that are qualified to do

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<v Speaker 2>these things.

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01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:11.440
<v Speaker 3>So yes, you're seeing the app, but the app staffs

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01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:14.320
<v Speaker 3>that are paid and are qualified to do these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Then The other thing that the app does actually you

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<v Speaker 3>can pay your tax really app because we're also partnered

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<v Speaker 3>with rebelter Right. So if you do your tax properly,

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01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:28.880
<v Speaker 3>you can file and paid. But you're not filing on

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<v Speaker 3>your own. So we asked two different questions. Are you

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<v Speaker 3>filing at somebody that's an accountant, you have an accounted

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01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:38.519
<v Speaker 3>to your business. You say no, then the system is

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<v Speaker 3>filing it on your behalf. If the system is doing

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<v Speaker 3>it as a system, we are qualified to do it

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<v Speaker 3>because if this system was made by accountants, a chattered

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<v Speaker 3>accountant and the person behind the scene can find this

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<v Speaker 3>thing for you if you want, if you make maybe

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<v Speaker 3>an inaus reports, when the accountants to do it personally

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<v Speaker 3>for you, they can, And if you also want to

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01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:03.719
<v Speaker 3>do it for your own you can also do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the app was not just built by somebody on

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01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:09.880
<v Speaker 2>the street. No, it was bused with engineers.

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<v Speaker 3>It was bused with accountants that knows exactly what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So by the law they are covered like yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I what saying is that if you are filing attacks

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<v Speaker 1>account to the laws now you will have to have

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<v Speaker 1>the quota for the legal rights to file attacks. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I hear him saying yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I'm sivitariing that if you want somebody from

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01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:38.079
<v Speaker 3>papers to do that for you, we can do it

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01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:40.840
<v Speaker 3>for you. That person started then if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>do it by yourself, the app itself was done by

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<v Speaker 3>accountants working with papers.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yes.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, now for a company digitart company to have

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<v Speaker 3>people's for the start community to have people's records, I

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<v Speaker 3>need to be compliance with the what's it called nc

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01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:07.920
<v Speaker 3>NDCP something like that, I need to be compearence with them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have the compliance certificate on behalf of my company.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm the d CEO on behalf of my company.

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<v Speaker 3>So right now, because of I own the company, I

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<v Speaker 3>can handle those documents on bere for the company. But

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<v Speaker 3>let's assume that I do not have this right, I

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<v Speaker 3>cannot employ a d C. That d C or in

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<v Speaker 3>that company not qualifies my company to handle people's information.

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<v Speaker 2>So the same thing goes for taxation. If you have

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<v Speaker 2>people that are qualified that is working in the company

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<v Speaker 2>as representative.

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<v Speaker 3>If a tax my comody law comes to say, who

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<v Speaker 3>is the person that's qualified to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do this thing?

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<v Speaker 3>You show the person in charge of the accountants dispersive beauty.

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<v Speaker 2>This person is qualified.

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<v Speaker 6>This person can do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope have clarified this, mister Shaw know, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You got your company, but I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually know I can't. I can't because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Have personally and I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, personally that is your best nal training.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, except yes, yes, yes, I I think personally,

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<v Speaker 3>I am the one hunding the data and compliance personally.

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<v Speaker 1>For the company. Are good? Yeah, all right, better, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you coming, You're welcome. You know, thenation of a small company?

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<v Speaker 1>That were again either fifteen million ordia, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>I should show the two numbers in the law. The

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<v Speaker 1>law you are quoting has two numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>Jam is okay?

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<v Speaker 9>Jam saying fifty Nigeria PA's art N twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 9>is saying twenty for fifty million?

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<v Speaker 1>Why Nigeria past Admisation part school so on the we're

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<v Speaker 1>still waiting for uifications.

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<v Speaker 2>When when that.

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<v Speaker 1>Pleasure the hold on? There's no, there's no question we

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<v Speaker 1>have to wait.

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<v Speaker 4>Condition.

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<v Speaker 9>There are two or three conditions to be qualified as

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<v Speaker 9>a small company past letter.

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<v Speaker 1>Let people get it's right.

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<v Speaker 9>One of those classes is either you're one hundred you

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<v Speaker 9>have don't know hundred million or fifteen million, which is

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<v Speaker 9>here to be clarified or your face are said, yes,

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<v Speaker 9>there's no exceed two und fifteen million if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Have two fifteen million.

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<v Speaker 1>If you said you are.

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01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:45.760
<v Speaker 9>A small company and you have if it's assets of

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01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.319
<v Speaker 9>more than two and a fifteen million, you are.

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01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Not a small company. Says you're not a small company.

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<v Speaker 9>And lastly, since you are company registered with the CC

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<v Speaker 9>as a professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Service, you are not a small company.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll pay you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the lawyers, wires and accountant.

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<v Speaker 3>Right can you repeat yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you repeat yourself on what you just said?

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<v Speaker 1>So the small companies has three main keys.

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<v Speaker 9>The first of eighties higher your tone wise hundred million

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<v Speaker 9>or fifteen which is yes to be clarified by the

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<v Speaker 9>revenue body.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or your six asset.

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<v Speaker 1>Exit does not exceed fifteen million. If it's exceeded fifteen million,

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<v Speaker 1>you are not a small company.

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<v Speaker 2>M Lastly, if you registered.

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<v Speaker 9>As a professional service mm hmm, you are not a

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<v Speaker 9>small company. The law doesn't include you as one of

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<v Speaker 9>the small companies.

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<v Speaker 6>That's where I want to cry FI as you respect

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<v Speaker 6>you of when are you missed situation or not?

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<v Speaker 1>As far as you registered as peters you're not yes

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I want you to.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was making that point again, so again

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<v Speaker 1>just to be clear, right, I'm shining from mentioning numbers, mister,

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't have the numbers to be evenly was

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<v Speaker 1>it wants to get the physical printed gazette. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>totally on point. Let us folks be aware. We're just

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01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:31.159
<v Speaker 1>shining away from saying fifty you want to go to

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<v Speaker 1>get the real physical one because of what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But fantastic thanks to your contribution. Let's get Peter Peter

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01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:47.840
<v Speaker 1>off from Peter. All right, thank you, thank you, thank.

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<v Speaker 4>You for the conversation. So far, we are really learning

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01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:54.560
<v Speaker 4>the lots. So I wanted to ask about a part

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01:11:55.840 --> 01:11:59.760
<v Speaker 4>it returns from investment and yeah, do to invest with

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01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:03.279
<v Speaker 4>be as or individual?

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<v Speaker 1>How does it treated?

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<v Speaker 4>And secondly, I want to request going to share a slide.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I will share my life, but not immediately I'll

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<v Speaker 3>say data, I'll say it after this space.

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<v Speaker 2>Just forgive me. I'm supposed to give you can this slide,

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01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:26.479
<v Speaker 2>but I'm a.

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01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:30.720
<v Speaker 3>New mom, so my baby is not clibrates. Because of that,

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01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:33.760
<v Speaker 3>I could not provide this. I will share this light

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01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:34.079
<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Then on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>So what the love says, and I do not want

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<v Speaker 2>to be wrong on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can quote, I can really what is saying is saying, dividends,

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01:12:47.159 --> 01:12:53.279
<v Speaker 1>dividends distributed by authorized collective investment scheme you need trust

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01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:57.520
<v Speaker 1>private equity, venture capitals and ets douse I don't be

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<v Speaker 1>exempt from your income. So if you if you invest,

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01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:03.399
<v Speaker 1>if you buy a mutual fund or ATF in Nigeria,

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01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:08.359
<v Speaker 1>collective investment scheme rested by sex, the dividends you get

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01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:10.680
<v Speaker 1>from them are not going to be taxable to you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 12>Peter, all right, okay, so are you are you treating

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<v Speaker 12>the dividend as the returns as you have money market

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<v Speaker 12>on the dividends.

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<v Speaker 1>Money markets will give you return your yield. They will

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<v Speaker 1>give you your coupon yield or eco distribution that yield

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01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:33.079
<v Speaker 1>you get the dividends they give you back to you

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<v Speaker 1>from the collective. It has to be collective. Not you

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<v Speaker 1>going to buy the shared directive collective. Yes, it's ex

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to encourage more nitrants to invest in

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<v Speaker 1>captol marketing. One earths are doing gambling and crypto, so

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01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:47.560
<v Speaker 1>they're doing this to allow you to go in through

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01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:50.159
<v Speaker 1>collecting teams. So what it means for you, peit is,

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01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:52.960
<v Speaker 1>if you want to invest, I want to take advantage

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01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:56.359
<v Speaker 1>of the tax benefits. Try to buy the ETFs, the

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01:13:56.479 --> 01:14:00.600
<v Speaker 1>unit trust, the mutual fund, not the individual stocks directly.

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01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:02.840
<v Speaker 1>If you want to put money in the bank, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I want to look at a money market fund as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to say in commercial paper or a fixed deposit.

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<v Speaker 1>But remember federal government bonds and state bonds are exempt

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<v Speaker 1>from taxes. So when you want to invest now you

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01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:20.439
<v Speaker 1>have to have your your your investing leans on. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to avoid taxes, you go for bonds, you

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01:14:23.560 --> 01:14:25.960
<v Speaker 1>go for collective schemes. If you just want to address

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<v Speaker 1>and get your income chase collected the individual stops.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, okay, So another thing again in papers, we

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<v Speaker 3>have our investing and we have investment partners the musical

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<v Speaker 3>cord rules.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Investing with state perks, our investment partners are giving you

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<v Speaker 3>money markets of eighteen percents.

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<v Speaker 2>You can invest in what's it called. You can invest

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<v Speaker 2>in solvereign worlds.

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<v Speaker 3>You can invest in eurobonds, you can invest in usc

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01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:58.680
<v Speaker 3>you can invest in what is called You can do

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<v Speaker 3>your fix step on this. But one very interesting thing

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<v Speaker 3>about what's it called about the money market? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>your money market is like every day the profit that

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01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:11.840
<v Speaker 3>is made on that day when trades are made, so

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01:15:11.960 --> 01:15:14.119
<v Speaker 3>you make your profit everybody. So if you have maybe

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thousand or ten thousand or your money markets.

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01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:19.359
<v Speaker 2>And accounts, if maybe the trade.

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<v Speaker 3>For that day is it can be ten percents, it

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<v Speaker 3>can be it has never going to be low fitting percents,

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<v Speaker 3>but usually between fifty percent or eighteen percents, So maybe

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01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:30.840
<v Speaker 3>today or ten thousand, the trade might be ten percent

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<v Speaker 3>or fifteen percent.

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<v Speaker 2>You make that money.

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<v Speaker 3>So every day your money market, you're making money.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>Enough information about investing, but only twenty fourth. If you're

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01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:46.199
<v Speaker 3>in a buja, we're doing our launch party right if

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01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:46.560
<v Speaker 3>you go to.

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<v Speaker 2>Our handle, you will see it there. We have our

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01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:52.000
<v Speaker 2>investment parties are coming to talk about everything that has

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01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:55.159
<v Speaker 2>to do with investments. So if you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>take her.

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<v Speaker 3>Backs investment can put it in money, get in nine

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01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:03.760
<v Speaker 3>insur round, put this intension.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone, put this in, put it in all these places.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't further.

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01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Out of this will take your money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is what happens all over the world, Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called a tax tax intication strategy. So again it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be down to your liquidity. If you make income, Yes,

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01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:24.479
<v Speaker 1>right now in America, we're going to pay taxes between

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01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:28.520
<v Speaker 1>now and April fifteenth. What many people do if you

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01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:33.079
<v Speaker 1>have what's called an IRA, people would wait and file

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01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:35.880
<v Speaker 1>see what they're supposed to pay in taxes, then go

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01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:38.920
<v Speaker 1>buy an IRA so that way they can reduce their

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01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:41.319
<v Speaker 1>above the line income. And if you're what I mean,

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01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:44.720
<v Speaker 1>you file see the taxes are going to pay matybe

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01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:46.479
<v Speaker 1>you do to both tax if you file on too,

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01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:49.279
<v Speaker 1>both taxes will tell you this is your taxes. Then

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01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you go back and go and buy or contribute to

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01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:55.760
<v Speaker 1>your IRA yours account or even buy make more con

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01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:58.880
<v Speaker 1>down to your phone okey, then need to reduce your taxes.

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01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:01.039
<v Speaker 1>So that's a legirl with to is it that you

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01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:05.399
<v Speaker 1>pay tax or you're investing yourself? You choose one. Still

1443
01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you know you pay tax for investing yourself.

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01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Give governments or you invest fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>You're good, Well let's get dollar Peter, good fantastic, Let's

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01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:20.920
<v Speaker 1>get dollargy that we'll go to no information dollargy. You've

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01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:28.000
<v Speaker 1>got the floor. Dollargy is not ready. Let's get no information.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing, I'm carry about you. I'm doing very well.

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01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:39.840
<v Speaker 1>So thanks for asking. All right, I'm going to ask

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01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the question are about services? And when amos speaking?

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01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Yea, thank you. Let's questions because us a specific world

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01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:53.439
<v Speaker 4>where it.

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01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Was describing for services.

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01:17:56.039 --> 01:17:57.840
<v Speaker 4>He said, if you register.

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01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:03.680
<v Speaker 1>As a professional asset. So I'm just struggling with the

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01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:11.239
<v Speaker 1>definition of professional and he used that, Yeah, yeah, I

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01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:18.039
<v Speaker 1>don't want you registered. Something comes to you. No, it's

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01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it's really, it's really those guys, those professional firms like

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01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:25.239
<v Speaker 1>a lawyer and accountant and auditor chatter, so they or

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01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.520
<v Speaker 1>anything chattered. Anything that needs you to qualify before you

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01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:34.800
<v Speaker 1>can practice, that's okay, anything that needed to take an

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01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:39.479
<v Speaker 1>old not but that maybe you're qualifying in like an accountant,

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01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the architect, dentist related professions.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. So yeah, at the end of the day, what

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01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:53.960
<v Speaker 4>is going to matter is if you if you want

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<v Speaker 4>a company. That's what they call the the memorandum of association,

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01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:01.840
<v Speaker 4>the articles of association.

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<v Speaker 6>Now in the memorial ranslation, that's what they call the

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<v Speaker 6>objects of the memoralim of reverslation.

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<v Speaker 4>Those objects are basically the object.

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<v Speaker 6>Those objects explain in these legal terms what the law

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<v Speaker 6>will see as the activities that this company or this

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01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:20.079
<v Speaker 6>legal entity.

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<v Speaker 4>Is carrying or it was created to engaging. So your

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01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:27.800
<v Speaker 4>business activities will be bliged in that object. So if

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01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:29.239
<v Speaker 4>you if you want, if you want to know if

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01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:31.840
<v Speaker 4>your prof about most good and can look.

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01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:35.119
<v Speaker 6>At your objects, if your objects stays there that you

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01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:39.079
<v Speaker 6>actually engage in professional saiss or auditing.

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<v Speaker 4>Or whatever the case may be. If it's there, then

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01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:43.039
<v Speaker 4>there'll be a wall to be seen by law, by

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01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:46.319
<v Speaker 4>the by the SACY and by the NASS as a

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01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:47.319
<v Speaker 4>compens respect.

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<v Speaker 6>But if if it's not, then you know, so it's

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01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:52.880
<v Speaker 6>all matters of what decide that you will do those

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01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:55.920
<v Speaker 6>your objects web side objects of your memo. So that

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01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:59.399
<v Speaker 6>that's that's the that's the Gottom line. You know, you

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01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:01.560
<v Speaker 6>can't talk house where you're doing and we're not doing.

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<v Speaker 6>The bottom line is what is in your objects out

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<v Speaker 6>how to row and see you and that also that

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01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:09.199
<v Speaker 6>me how much you'd be You know, this is an

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<v Speaker 6>issue that me have also taken to some of the authority.

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<v Speaker 4>Is true because like I said, this is my amine because.

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't going to so we're trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we've been trying to get almost go back exemptions, but

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<v Speaker 6>leaving give goes about exception as first you're PSF and

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<v Speaker 6>there's pers objects and you can't sertify for somebody you

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<v Speaker 6>know benefits.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye, I don't know. I don't know if that crifes,

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01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:37.079
<v Speaker 4>thank you?

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01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Can I say something?

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01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:41.840
<v Speaker 3>I think the focus should not solely be what.

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01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:45.760
<v Speaker 2>You qualify as. Maybe you are as person.

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01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:49.039
<v Speaker 3>What if you focus on I think the law focus

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01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:53.239
<v Speaker 3>is solely on your income. So whether you're register you're

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01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:56.760
<v Speaker 3>not registered as a professional SERVI this person, maybe you're

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01:20:56.920 --> 01:21:01.119
<v Speaker 3>bat on the streets rights and is doing so well

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01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:05.960
<v Speaker 3>that you make it both the strendhold. When you least

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01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:09.199
<v Speaker 3>that said, you will be taxed, so it doesn't really matter.

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01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:12.520
<v Speaker 3>So you don't focus on whether you are a professional

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01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:15.560
<v Speaker 3>this person. You focus on the income that you make.

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01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:17.880
<v Speaker 2>It's all over that you make within the period of time.

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01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:24.199
<v Speaker 1>This is what cool.

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01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:26.079
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting.

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01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Lady. Yeah she broke up, but I actually broke up

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01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:38.479
<v Speaker 1>with bit. But but I think the point again that

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01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:42.800
<v Speaker 1>man standa. PSLs are quoted specifically the Act. So once

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01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:45.319
<v Speaker 1>once we agree that your too has got to hit

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01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that level. They are quotes specifically that your PSF you,

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01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:52.600
<v Speaker 1>So they're saying, irrespective of what we have said, irrespective

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01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're PSF, these things don't apply to you. That's

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01:21:55.960 --> 01:21:58.439
<v Speaker 1>what they're trying to say. So he's trying to all

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01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the time from all these things are saying. You know,

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01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:03.840
<v Speaker 1>pack it. It's not for you. So it's a very

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01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:07.880
<v Speaker 1>good you know if yours YEA important to know that

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01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.279
<v Speaker 1>you are. If you are, some things that we're saying

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01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:14.920
<v Speaker 1>might not applied to you. That's just it. Yeah, have

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01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you have you spoken all? Because you know why did they?

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01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:22.920
<v Speaker 1>So please go ahead and what's your question?

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01:22:24.399 --> 01:22:27.199
<v Speaker 4>Okay, good evening and thank you for hosting the space.

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01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for the explanation so far.

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01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:34.680
<v Speaker 13>Okay, I wanted to find out if you are a

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01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:40.079
<v Speaker 13>rotation worker and this this applies pretty much space right

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01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:44.640
<v Speaker 13>now and you get paid in ex now the country

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01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:48.600
<v Speaker 13>you walk the air touched low applies when you bring

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01:22:48.680 --> 01:22:50.079
<v Speaker 13>your money back to the Nigeria.

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01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:51.680
<v Speaker 4>Is that money tax?

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01:22:52.720 --> 01:22:55.239
<v Speaker 1>You're jumping many guns here your many goals? Where are

1539
01:22:55.239 --> 01:22:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you working?

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01:22:57.800 --> 01:23:01.159
<v Speaker 4>Okay? This is your working Sayla or in Qatar?

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01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:05.399
<v Speaker 1>So how how how many days do you live in Nigeria?

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01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:12.119
<v Speaker 13>So typically rotation is twenty days on twenty almost like

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01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:13.520
<v Speaker 13>half a year in Nigeria.

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01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so look at what I wear. I'm going to

1545
01:23:15.640 --> 01:23:18.239
<v Speaker 1>do this right. You only pay tax if you're a

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01:23:18.399 --> 01:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>resident of Nigeria. So if you spend one hundred and

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01:23:22.680 --> 01:23:27.239
<v Speaker 1>eighty three days in Nigeria, or your permanent home is

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01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:32.479
<v Speaker 1>in Nigeria, or you have a significant economic or family

1549
01:23:32.640 --> 01:23:36.279
<v Speaker 1>tie in Nigeria. Those three things are very important, then

1550
01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:39.479
<v Speaker 1>you must pay tax in Nigeria. So in respect of

1551
01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:42.199
<v Speaker 1>where you work, if you work in Katar in rigging Katar,

1552
01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>but you spend one eighty three days in Nigeria, or

1553
01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you have a permanent home in Nigeria, or you have

1554
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:52.239
<v Speaker 1>a permanent or you have significant business or economic terms

1555
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>in Nigeria, then you are going to pay tax in Nigeria.

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01:23:55.840 --> 01:23:58.640
<v Speaker 1>So that income you make foreign is going to be

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01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>income that you pay tax on. The question for you

1558
01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>now is this because it's salary. It's not dividend, so

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01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>you can't claim export anything. So it's pure salary. I

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01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:10.640
<v Speaker 1>think you're going to pay pi T. That's why I

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01:24:10.720 --> 01:24:11.479
<v Speaker 1>think about you.

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01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Think yes, I think it's whatever it's is that you're

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01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:19.399
<v Speaker 3>paying tax. Let's assume that the tax one didn't you

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01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:19.880
<v Speaker 3>fits that?

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01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you do X Y Z this outside of the country.

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01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Are you just reading this here?

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01:24:25.680 --> 01:24:28.920
<v Speaker 3>There's something called tax credits, right, So whatever thing you're

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01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:32.439
<v Speaker 3>paying that country, when you fly your tax in Nigeria,

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01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:33.520
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be.

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01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Either rainbowsed or you'll pay more.

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01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>But he will pay to p I T. So the

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01:24:37.680 --> 01:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>point is that respont the of the of the tax credits,

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01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>double tax, he's liable to pay. He's will do. I

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01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>think there's no PI T. That's not that's there's no

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01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>double tax agreement with the Nigeria and Qatar and Nigeria

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01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and Angola. You're going to pay PID in Nigeria even

1577
01:24:56.640 --> 01:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>if you end that income in golar. That makes sense

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01:24:59.800 --> 01:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that you.

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01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:05.600
<v Speaker 4>All right. So so when she said no, no double task.

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01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:09.520
<v Speaker 14>So if I'm good on tax law applies, and I'm

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01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:13.000
<v Speaker 14>already I was, I've already been taxed and am and

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01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:16.880
<v Speaker 14>then I come back to night and based on baby

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01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:18.000
<v Speaker 14>family ties.

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01:25:18.079 --> 01:25:21.840
<v Speaker 4>You know you mentioned something like that, right, Am I

1585
01:25:22.039 --> 01:25:23.600
<v Speaker 4>going to another.

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01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:28.159
<v Speaker 1>It's saying if are you saying? If you are, let's

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01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:30.640
<v Speaker 1>look at let's google what natureia have double tax and

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01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna Google, here double double you will.

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01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Not be double tax. But you can't confirm you will

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01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:41.520
<v Speaker 2>not be double tax.

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01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Let let's find out. So now you have double Now

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01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:52.279
<v Speaker 1>you have double tax with the U, k US, Canada, China, France, Singapore,

1593
01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>South Africa, and Spain, Spain, uh In Europe we have

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01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Cripul Belgium, France, in Atherlands, Romania, Spain, suit in the UK,

1595
01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>in Asia, Singapor, Philippines, Pistan, Africa. Cannot cawind the outside

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01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna pay.

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01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Let me just add many that.

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<v Speaker 8>Irrespective of the country that that you has digities with

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01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:27.319
<v Speaker 8>that that that's w irrespective of those countries.

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<v Speaker 4>There's there's a provision called even at relief. So the

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01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.159
<v Speaker 4>worst case scenario way of going to see is humor.

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01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:34.640
<v Speaker 4>Have to pay.

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01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:37.399
<v Speaker 6>That's first, but then you will do a future fighting

1604
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:38.319
<v Speaker 6>and you get your reformed.

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01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:40.920
<v Speaker 4>You guys, are you give me? You guys?

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01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Are you guys are giving?

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01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:48.039
<v Speaker 6>But that really Google, I will find you sexual really

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01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:54.279
<v Speaker 6>relieve all Nigerias against the the who and the country

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01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:57.000
<v Speaker 6>the other countries. It does not have a digity in Nigeria.

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01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>So I just want to listen acts a very simple question.

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01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Here's a simple question. He works in Angola and Qatar.

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01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Will he be taxed, Yes, he'll be taxed. Those cuntures

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01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:08.319
<v Speaker 1>are not listed here. So all this fine going to

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01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:10.479
<v Speaker 1>do later in Ben. All this you're gonna do in

1615
01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>natural he's going to be he has to file packs

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01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:16.039
<v Speaker 1>with that income in Nigeria because those countries to Qatar

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01:27:16.199 --> 01:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and Angola is not listed here in the countries are named.

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01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:21.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but is your residence in Nigeria.

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01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't given you he has to answer. I told him,

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01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>if you stay one eighty three days in Nigeria or

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01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>your ben let's talk, let's my interrupt place that you learn.

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01:27:32.159 --> 01:27:35.520
<v Speaker 1>He's asking the question if you stay one, if you

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01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>stay one eighty three days in Nigeria, number two, you

1624
01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:44.199
<v Speaker 1>have family ties or builds in Nigeria. Number three, your

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01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>permanent home is in Nigeria, then any income you make

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01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>in Angola or Qatar is taxable in Nigeria. That's what

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01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of says.

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01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I was also alluding to the same thing.

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01:27:59.079 --> 01:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Because you think your primary residence.

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01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:04.600
<v Speaker 3>So that's why I'm actually if he's a residence in Nigeria.

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01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:07.399
<v Speaker 3>If you have a primary residence but you live in Angola,

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01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:11.279
<v Speaker 3>but your Angolar residence is not declared as your primary residence,

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01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:13.600
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to pay tax in Angola. You pay

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01:28:13.720 --> 01:28:17.000
<v Speaker 3>tax in the place that you declare as your primary residence.

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01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:17.840
<v Speaker 2>So even if he.

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01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Works in Angola, Butania is declared as primary residence, it's

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01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:22.159
<v Speaker 3>good to pay.

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01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Tax in Nigeria.

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01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:28.319
<v Speaker 1>It's an American irrespective of where he declares tax, he

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01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>will pay American taxes her respective.

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01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:34.119
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and this is where the the the tax credit

1642
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:36.960
<v Speaker 3>comes in. Right, Let's say he's an American and he

1643
01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:39.680
<v Speaker 3>pays that tax well his own.

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01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Residence in Anigulia. So they will not be like what

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01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:46.039
<v Speaker 2>is it called a tax credits? Either will pay too.

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01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Much then the tax my hair and you are not

1647
01:28:49.359 --> 01:28:52.199
<v Speaker 3>more than you. If you pay less, then you have

1648
01:28:52.239 --> 01:28:54.600
<v Speaker 3>to pay the men want to do Naginian government. So

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01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:58.800
<v Speaker 3>for me an example, right, my primary residence.

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01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Is okay, it's in is in Belgium.

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01:29:01.880 --> 01:29:05.319
<v Speaker 3>So I'm working now if this is also my ownest, Okay,

1652
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:06.760
<v Speaker 3>my primary primary.

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01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Residence is in Belgium.

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01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm working, I'm working and I'm making my day, so

1655
01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I have to pay tax Belgium law.

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01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Right because I have to do this.

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01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:18.880
<v Speaker 3>So also still compliance, I have to put the Belgium

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01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:22.479
<v Speaker 3>law tax. But le's assume the detaxation in Belgium is

1659
01:29:22.680 --> 01:29:27.239
<v Speaker 3>lower than detaxation in Nigeria. Right, I'm still going to

1660
01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:29.680
<v Speaker 3>pay the bags to the Nigerian governments.

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01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't want you guys to make the team

1662
01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:35.199
<v Speaker 1>a complicated right, So it's not complicated. Yeah, well let

1663
01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>me let me go. I don't don't, I don't want,

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01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't make it. I'm really the DMS. So look

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01:29:42.279 --> 01:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>at so he's asking a questions are asking and because

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01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>he's putting katar and go ahead, look at the he's

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01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>asking if you and if you are in Nigerian that

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01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:56.079
<v Speaker 1>maybe you go to your impotcast from Belgium. You go

1669
01:29:56.199 --> 01:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to Belgium port trucks. You go to Belgium in port trucks.

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01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>You stayed fifty days in Belgium total. You live in

1671
01:30:03.199 --> 01:30:06.199
<v Speaker 1>your family houses in Keja, your your wife is in

1672
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the Kecha, your kids are in the Kecher. What you

1673
01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>are spending nearly half the year in Belgium? Is he

1674
01:30:12.680 --> 01:30:16.399
<v Speaker 1>going to pay tax? This simple question? No, b No,

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01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just I'm not saying the simple way. The

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01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:22.279
<v Speaker 1>answer is this, where are you a resident of That's

1677
01:30:22.279 --> 01:30:26.039
<v Speaker 1>a simple question. Where Once you determine your residency, then

1678
01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you ask yourself, is that country does you have a

1679
01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>double tax Uprea agreement? If this question, if you were

1680
01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>saying he has, he's in Spain, the answer will be no,

1681
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>because Spain and Nigeria have a double tax agreement. So

1682
01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:41.239
<v Speaker 1>he's fine. He will not pay tax in Nigeria because

1683
01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:44.079
<v Speaker 1>whatever he pays in Spain, he will claiming to do

1684
01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it from Nigeria. It's clear, simple, it was in South Africa. Yeah,

1685
01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it's there Spain. Yeah, but you are going to you

1686
01:30:56.680 --> 01:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that he's not asking, he's asking will he.

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01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Have the same Him and I have the same situation

1688
01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:05.760
<v Speaker 3>now in disregards of taxation.

1689
01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:08.840
<v Speaker 2>So I am making my echo from Nigeria.

1690
01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Right example, and I live in those from my primary

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01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:14.039
<v Speaker 3>residence is not Langeria.

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01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:18.960
<v Speaker 2>And what about salary? I did myself living in this country?

1693
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1694
01:31:20.680 --> 01:31:21.319
<v Speaker 2>That's moly.

1695
01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:24.359
<v Speaker 3>If even if let's say Nigeria, okay, let's let me

1696
01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:26.640
<v Speaker 3>do you that you as my primary.

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01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Residence, You're going to be.

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01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Better. That's my primary stories.

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01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Hello, what say is it a nation of.

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01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Even if you're permanent resident?

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01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:45.079
<v Speaker 1>Are you an already that many days?

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01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Three'?

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01:31:47.159 --> 01:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>That is the simple in Nigeria.

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01:31:50.239 --> 01:31:55.119
<v Speaker 15>Now those in Italian Union lateral whatever Baby was talking about,

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01:31:55.399 --> 01:31:59.680
<v Speaker 15>if those in countries that we do have in double

1706
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:03.960
<v Speaker 15>tax agreement with that's something isn't really that they don't

1707
01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:08.079
<v Speaker 15>be paying. That is, if the space only three days

1708
01:32:08.079 --> 01:32:10.399
<v Speaker 15>in Nigeria, you pay tax. If you do want to

1709
01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:12.439
<v Speaker 15>pay tax, that you want to live under the tax

1710
01:32:12.520 --> 01:32:14.399
<v Speaker 15>to live in Sugaradia.

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01:32:13.840 --> 01:32:16.279
<v Speaker 1>From Arab countries, that is you have to spend one

1712
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>into three days.

1713
01:32:16.880 --> 01:32:20.479
<v Speaker 15>And yeah, ecloonatize strong family tized in Nigeria.

1714
01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, and they've they've gone further. Let me even

1715
01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:25.479
<v Speaker 1>tell what the tax law where they went further. The

1716
01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>tax law says, if you are in if you are

1717
01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>a resident of Nigeria and that country pays you income

1718
01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and that country does not tax you, Nigeria tax you.

1719
01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>That's what he's explaining. This is the tax law for

1720
01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:44.439
<v Speaker 1>non residents here. You yeah, for non residence employment income.

1721
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:48.399
<v Speaker 1>If you go to Saudi and the Sadi government does

1722
01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:52.079
<v Speaker 1>not tax you, and I just NIGERI will tax you.

1723
01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:54.439
<v Speaker 1>That's what they're seeing in the tax law. So yeah,

1724
01:32:54.479 --> 01:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you won't go for that. We will make it that

1725
01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't want. So if if you're salar Radia and

1726
01:32:59.119 --> 01:33:02.199
<v Speaker 1>they give you a exemption and you don't pay your Nigerias.

1727
01:33:02.479 --> 01:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>So be very careful about we're talking about Google. Yes,

1728
01:33:07.439 --> 01:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean no no, Ben. That's why I say

1729
01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:14.079
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to Z instead of a I don't

1730
01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:17.199
<v Speaker 1>like access. Simple question he walks into countries. The quoted

1731
01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the countries for US is asking will he pay taxes?

1732
01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:25.239
<v Speaker 1>So no, it's question I don't know how. Then then

1733
01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the answer is this, where is mister della in resident

1734
01:33:29.960 --> 01:33:34.399
<v Speaker 1>of Once you answer where he's resident of, it answers itself.

1735
01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Its mister will saying he's working in Spain. End of

1736
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:43.039
<v Speaker 1>story because Spain and Nigeria have a d t T.

1737
01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>But mister Deyla is not working in Spain or South

1738
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Africa or Philippines, or he's not he's working in two

1739
01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>nations that do not have dedity with Nigeria, which means

1740
01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:56.159
<v Speaker 1>we don't have to go to the residence and say

1741
01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:59.359
<v Speaker 1>is he spending one eighty three days in Nigeria? Yes

1742
01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:02.199
<v Speaker 1>or no? Does he have family in Nigeria, Yes or no?

1743
01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Does he have bas Nigeria yes or no? Does he

1744
01:34:05.159 --> 01:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>have a family house perman Nigeria, Yes or no? When

1745
01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:11.119
<v Speaker 1>he answers those four questions, he will know it's going

1746
01:34:11.159 --> 01:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>to be taxing those countries or Nigeria. It's a simple determination.

1747
01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to argue about the lawyer is there

1748
01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:21.159
<v Speaker 1>feeling the blanks and I think you have bit clear

1749
01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:25.359
<v Speaker 1>now right, you're big clearing now it's the lawyer is there.

1750
01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>He can post her to spend tomorrow.

1751
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:29.199
<v Speaker 4>Right.

1752
01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:34.560
<v Speaker 14>So the conditions are either or So if I don't

1753
01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:38.239
<v Speaker 14>do want three, what I have family, ties, strength.

1754
01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>What those four things? So if you spend one day

1755
01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:47.079
<v Speaker 1>but you have a family permanent, I just about Ben's

1756
01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:50.720
<v Speaker 1>permanent in Nigeria in Nigerian type. Good your permanent address

1757
01:34:51.079 --> 01:34:54.079
<v Speaker 1>in Nigeria, if your family, if your wife is in Nigeria,

1758
01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>your kids are Nigeria. But you spend two many days

1759
01:34:57.279 --> 01:35:00.079
<v Speaker 1>in Italy. No, you have the permanent your signal, you

1760
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>can't families in Nigeria. He had catuals fabulations.

1761
01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:10.000
<v Speaker 15>The follow up question and letty for instance, I go

1762
01:35:10.159 --> 01:35:13.319
<v Speaker 15>to government has taxed team and attached him many fifteen

1763
01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:19.279
<v Speaker 15>percent and now you're spent over wanted to treat this

1764
01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:22.960
<v Speaker 15>in Nigeria. So the Gian government is to tax hims

1765
01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:26.000
<v Speaker 15>on that based on this in compression twenty percent. So

1766
01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:28.479
<v Speaker 15>if you fan twenty fifty percent, he's gonna be fifty

1767
01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:30.479
<v Speaker 15>five percent Nigeria.

1768
01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>That's what Ben is now saying. This is where Ben's

1769
01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of Well, that's that you're gonna get that will come

1770
01:35:37.960 --> 01:35:40.359
<v Speaker 1>in because that's where you now say you know what

1771
01:35:41.039 --> 01:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he's got. Yes, he's great for point of that session.

1772
01:35:43.920 --> 01:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>That my point he's going he's going to want don't

1773
01:35:52.479 --> 01:35:57.319
<v Speaker 1>don't see answer the guy properly see is if it's foreign,

1774
01:35:57.800 --> 01:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>he will pay the tax in Angola he will paid.

1775
01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Then he will go on file. If you keep on

1776
01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:05.720
<v Speaker 1>saying you can go and fire and not answering properly,

1777
01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you say oh no, no, no, no, he will pay

1778
01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:12.079
<v Speaker 1>the taxes and Angola, then he will try not there's

1779
01:36:12.079 --> 01:36:15.199
<v Speaker 1>not giving back the money. God, God's gonna say you

1780
01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>are in residents here, we have no dtity here, pay

1781
01:36:18.840 --> 01:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and go. That's the point of making America will give

1782
01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:23.199
<v Speaker 1>you back. Well, I'm good to give you back. It's

1783
01:36:23.199 --> 01:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>no guarantee, there's no dtty.

1784
01:36:25.319 --> 01:36:27.079
<v Speaker 4>So don't you.

1785
01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:34.680
<v Speaker 6>Come to simpling words too countries before whatever he's reason,

1786
01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:36.760
<v Speaker 6>you've paid in Angola or whatever the case may be.

1787
01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:39.720
<v Speaker 4>Nigeria and Naga decides not to tax. You have been

1788
01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:43.199
<v Speaker 4>safe and you can decide not to take you based

1789
01:36:43.239 --> 01:36:44.720
<v Speaker 4>on everything instead of paid.

1790
01:36:44.840 --> 01:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>It's not that it doesn't work.

1791
01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:48.119
<v Speaker 4>You processed.

1792
01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, an agreements place an agreement? Why do country? Why

1793
01:36:56.319 --> 01:37:01.039
<v Speaker 1>do countries sign an agreement? Two nations come to and sign.

1794
01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to.

1795
01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:08.199
<v Speaker 6>Against like, you missed my point by taking now together

1796
01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:12.520
<v Speaker 6>to sign that treaty. Now, one nation called Nigeria has

1797
01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:16.319
<v Speaker 6>created the univers that relief. That relief means that if

1798
01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:18.920
<v Speaker 6>you you're in like in this guy's case, nice working

1799
01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:22.680
<v Speaker 6>in our country and you're now pay that day, you

1800
01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:25.239
<v Speaker 6>can bring the documentary used to pay tax there and

1801
01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:25.960
<v Speaker 6>keep nine.

1802
01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:30.399
<v Speaker 1>But he's going to pay the tax, that's his question. Yes,

1803
01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:33.439
<v Speaker 1>well then you are going to we're going to run

1804
01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:36.279
<v Speaker 1>back to his The question is will he pay the

1805
01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>tax and go like yes, he's not, he's he wants

1806
01:37:40.319 --> 01:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to know where he will first.

1807
01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:47.039
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm focusing on his questions and where you go.

1808
01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, that's that's what the other follow up.

1809
01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:55.560
<v Speaker 15>Let me your say this and now do you tell

1810
01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:59.039
<v Speaker 15>the agreement where with kind of the us and the

1811
01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:02.600
<v Speaker 15>race is let's see your treasure distinctive percent in Canada,

1812
01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:04.680
<v Speaker 15>your treasure is twenty percent in Enginia.

1813
01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>You maybe are paid in Canada.

1814
01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:09.560
<v Speaker 3>That is act if you come to and good lad that.

1815
01:38:09.560 --> 01:38:12.479
<v Speaker 15>We don't have anything with you've paid twenty percent day

1816
01:38:12.800 --> 01:38:15.119
<v Speaker 15>and in the junior you are to paid on five percent.

1817
01:38:15.439 --> 01:38:17.079
<v Speaker 1>You will still paying many five percent.

1818
01:38:17.319 --> 01:38:19.359
<v Speaker 15>But even as good as there is, if it's in

1819
01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:22.079
<v Speaker 15>Canada and other country that were we have agreement with,

1820
01:38:22.199 --> 01:38:24.119
<v Speaker 15>you're not going to pay anything. Same way we do

1821
01:38:24.279 --> 01:38:28.279
<v Speaker 15>have agreement with Tudi Arabia because their TuS really at

1822
01:38:28.319 --> 01:38:31.199
<v Speaker 15>that point you pay all the percents yet Euria. So

1823
01:38:31.399 --> 01:38:33.479
<v Speaker 15>if you're living in a country, if you are now

1824
01:38:33.680 --> 01:38:35.279
<v Speaker 15>the bab you're paying forty percent.

1825
01:38:35.680 --> 01:38:37.359
<v Speaker 1>In Nageria you are to patre five percent.

1826
01:38:37.760 --> 01:38:40.399
<v Speaker 15>Nagia will not refund you to just get their bidiens

1827
01:38:40.399 --> 01:38:42.520
<v Speaker 15>that okay, you've paid over gay. But the potron lie

1828
01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:45.680
<v Speaker 15>is that you know you will stive five tax. So

1829
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:51.079
<v Speaker 15>the point of finding tax then look have a version

1830
01:38:51.119 --> 01:38:51.640
<v Speaker 15>of country.

1831
01:38:51.960 --> 01:38:54.359
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so gaduy, what do you think the new you?

1832
01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>What do you think it dos? What benefit you think

1833
01:38:57.039 --> 01:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>people can benefit from?

1834
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:02.359
<v Speaker 15>The really is for nations that we do not have

1835
01:39:02.479 --> 01:39:06.239
<v Speaker 15>agreements with like nation that is not like outside Canada, US,

1836
01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:08.640
<v Speaker 15>you can sort, I can do res So Like now

1837
01:39:08.800 --> 01:39:11.359
<v Speaker 15>let's say I'm any two hundred million in Canada. They're

1838
01:39:11.479 --> 01:39:14.800
<v Speaker 15>taxing into eighty percent of that already million nguriacs. Whoever,

1839
01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:16.960
<v Speaker 15>I will not five percent, but I'm saying that we

1840
01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:19.680
<v Speaker 15>will have five percent paid five percent.

1841
01:39:19.840 --> 01:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I need that used to make you said you said

1842
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:24.279
<v Speaker 2>that twenty percent.

1843
01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:27.640
<v Speaker 15>If we take it of twenty percent of five percent,

1844
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:30.399
<v Speaker 15>then I will glance twenty five percent. But if that's

1845
01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:34.079
<v Speaker 15>an apple with Canadia now perlans Joe, there's an agreement already,

1846
01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:35.600
<v Speaker 15>So I don't know if you know what I'm saying.

1847
01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:39.119
<v Speaker 1>You balance five percent? Say you balanced ty five percent?

1848
01:39:39.319 --> 01:39:41.800
<v Speaker 15>Like even I'm good as they say you're paying twenty

1849
01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:44.359
<v Speaker 15>percent of your hundred million, and I'm good at but

1850
01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:46.600
<v Speaker 15>in Injuria, if you have made this one Injuria, you

1851
01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:51.000
<v Speaker 15>you have touching twenty five percent of that amount. Now,

1852
01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:53.359
<v Speaker 15>but you have paid twenty percent in amount, paid the

1853
01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:54.600
<v Speaker 15>balance five percent.

1854
01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:58.199
<v Speaker 4>Injuria, and by dream that you've avoided Google. That's a show.

1855
01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:01.439
<v Speaker 15>If you're if you're in Canadia, if you're if you're

1856
01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:04.720
<v Speaker 15>twenty percent of the amount in Canada, and then you're

1857
01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:07.800
<v Speaker 15>to five percent there empty because they have an agreement,

1858
01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:09.359
<v Speaker 15>so they're not put on that shore.

1859
01:40:09.399 --> 01:40:09.920
<v Speaker 4>They gain.

1860
01:40:12.399 --> 01:40:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's true, that's true.

1861
01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:16.880
<v Speaker 4>Obviously it is better than the another release, you know,

1862
01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:20.439
<v Speaker 4>realigres with the knowledge.

1863
01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:23.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so just to be clear that they are, Yes,

1864
01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you will pay tax and Angola catable when you come

1865
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:28.319
<v Speaker 1>to Nigeria. You can use it in lateral tax and

1866
01:40:28.520 --> 01:40:31.359
<v Speaker 1>clean back what you have paid, even if there's fluid dedity.

1867
01:40:31.960 --> 01:40:36.479
<v Speaker 1>So just to be clear. Yeah, so you won't lose

1868
01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:41.479
<v Speaker 1>that money. Yeah, you won't lose that money, gotcha, fantastic.

1869
01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I think about both buying down. We've got about three

1870
01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:47.039
<v Speaker 1>minutes till twelve. I don't see any other questions.

1871
01:40:46.640 --> 01:40:49.760
<v Speaker 2>On the don't talk about go for it.

1872
01:40:50.800 --> 01:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we look down with told in tax? Yes,

1873
01:40:52.800 --> 01:40:56.079
<v Speaker 1>so what is told in tax? What is told in tax?

1874
01:40:56.159 --> 01:41:06.119
<v Speaker 3>Okayvance payments. So example, mister A is going to buy something,

1875
01:41:06.399 --> 01:41:09.119
<v Speaker 3>is maybe doing his service with another company.

1876
01:41:09.479 --> 01:41:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving mister bean my go and cut the verse.

1877
01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:16.359
<v Speaker 3>Or you have a you have a learning company that

1878
01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:19.319
<v Speaker 3>does loading services, and I said, okay, mister bean, your

1879
01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:23.520
<v Speaker 3>company come and work for my company. Right for that services,

1880
01:41:23.640 --> 01:41:28.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to deduct ten percent of whatever money I'm

1881
01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:29.880
<v Speaker 3>paid to mister Bean as the company.

1882
01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:32.119
<v Speaker 2>But for me to deduct ten percent.

1883
01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:36.760
<v Speaker 3>From that money, I have to qualify by my treasholder

1884
01:41:36.840 --> 01:41:41.199
<v Speaker 3>the company makes. So if my compaign makes the thresholder

1885
01:41:41.359 --> 01:41:45.920
<v Speaker 3>qualifies me to pay see IC and I have also

1886
01:41:46.079 --> 01:41:51.960
<v Speaker 3>registered with the tax people for withholding as well, then

1887
01:41:52.039 --> 01:41:56.079
<v Speaker 3>I can pless withholding from Ben our the doc ten

1888
01:41:56.119 --> 01:41:59.359
<v Speaker 3>percent of that money. I starts advant payment for Ben.

1889
01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:03.720
<v Speaker 3>So when benoans do not file his tax right, Ben

1890
01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:06.399
<v Speaker 3>will not collected the credit news. Remember when idot that

1891
01:42:06.479 --> 01:42:10.039
<v Speaker 3>money from Ben, I have to give Ben a tax

1892
01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:13.159
<v Speaker 3>credit nes that Ben is going to use to upset

1893
01:42:13.279 --> 01:42:15.159
<v Speaker 3>his tax when he does his filing.

1894
01:42:15.880 --> 01:42:17.800
<v Speaker 2>So Ben, I have paid Ben.

1895
01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Ben has me one million, I gave you nine undred thousand.

1896
01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:23.399
<v Speaker 3>I take ten percent of that money. I better ten

1897
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:29.600
<v Speaker 3>percent of government with Ben's competity empty number or Ben's

1898
01:42:29.720 --> 01:42:32.640
<v Speaker 3>personality number, whatever I want to use this I collected.

1899
01:42:32.760 --> 01:42:35.199
<v Speaker 3>I collected it, but it's for competent not for individuals.

1900
01:42:35.439 --> 01:42:38.800
<v Speaker 3>I collected cis completing number, and then I paid up to.

1901
01:42:38.880 --> 01:42:40.399
<v Speaker 1>The impax to government.

1902
01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:42.439
<v Speaker 2>So I give Ben credit notes.

1903
01:42:42.520 --> 01:42:44.880
<v Speaker 3>When Ben wants to file his tax for the year,

1904
01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:48.479
<v Speaker 3>he uses that to deduct his taxable income.

1905
01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so he uses that to the doc startsable income.

1906
01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:58.840
<v Speaker 3>So for example, if I have retailed, let's say I

1907
01:42:59.039 --> 01:43:03.319
<v Speaker 3>don't say this is so things and those people I

1908
01:43:03.399 --> 01:43:07.600
<v Speaker 3>collected withholding and tax from them, and then I bought things.

1909
01:43:07.800 --> 01:43:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Or I I did some jobs and the job paid me.

1910
01:43:11.479 --> 01:43:14.119
<v Speaker 3>But related withholding tax from me, and they give me

1911
01:43:14.199 --> 01:43:16.840
<v Speaker 3>the reholding credits. When I want to find my own

1912
01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:18.319
<v Speaker 3>as a company, I'm going.

1913
01:43:18.279 --> 01:43:21.720
<v Speaker 2>To pix that. That's credit notes to reduce my tax.

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01:43:22.159 --> 01:43:25.520
<v Speaker 3>When also find his tax for his company, because I

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01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:29.479
<v Speaker 3>collected his ten percent of his income, then he too,

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01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:32.359
<v Speaker 3>he's going to use that as a credit note, a

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01:43:32.439 --> 01:43:37.479
<v Speaker 3>credit notes dischargeable tax, turgical income tax. So this way,

1918
01:43:37.680 --> 01:43:41.199
<v Speaker 3>when companies do business with companies, you are expecting your

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01:43:41.439 --> 01:43:45.000
<v Speaker 3>tax agents, by the law, to collect withholding tax, but

1920
01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:46.880
<v Speaker 3>you have to be qualified first.

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01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:47.039
<v Speaker 4>To do that.

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01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>So for me, that's what I'm hearing as an semi

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01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:53.760
<v Speaker 1>for me that when I do my supplies and I

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01:43:53.880 --> 01:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>am charged in withholding tax, as you could get my

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01:43:56.840 --> 01:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>tax tax.

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01:43:58.720 --> 01:44:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, you you must get it from because you

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01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:06.399
<v Speaker 3>can claim me back. Well that's you're the company. But

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01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:10.279
<v Speaker 3>focus because I do my launch, I wanted to. I

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01:44:10.359 --> 01:44:13.399
<v Speaker 3>wanted to dogs. I told them about it to inter

1930
01:44:13.680 --> 01:44:15.880
<v Speaker 3>the doortion. But then I told them that they did not.

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<v Speaker 2>Know about this.

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01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I use that that moment to educate them that well,

1933
01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm not qualified as of this moment because I don't

1934
01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:24.880
<v Speaker 3>miss the chreshold who withhold it? But did you know

1935
01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:28.199
<v Speaker 3>that when you're doing businesses company, the company has the

1936
01:44:28.359 --> 01:44:31.520
<v Speaker 3>right to behold the tax from the money and dip.

1937
01:44:31.640 --> 01:44:33.319
<v Speaker 3>They actually agree that I should be told you, but

1938
01:44:33.399 --> 01:44:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I said no, no, no, I'm just telling you for

1939
01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:38.680
<v Speaker 3>information purposes. I do not qualify to withhold. But the

1940
01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:41.199
<v Speaker 3>thing is, if you rehold the tax, you have to

1941
01:44:41.399 --> 01:44:45.479
<v Speaker 3>your COMPLI. You're obligated by law to give that person

1942
01:44:45.560 --> 01:44:48.960
<v Speaker 3>that you're withholding detached from them their credit news. Just

1943
01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:52.039
<v Speaker 3>like the e eighty as well, when you're doing your

1944
01:44:52.119 --> 01:44:54.920
<v Speaker 3>V eighty, the person that you're giving your vity too

1945
01:44:55.439 --> 01:44:59.199
<v Speaker 3>must also have that thevice to collectiviating from you because

1946
01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:01.960
<v Speaker 3>you're going to simply.

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01:45:03.239 --> 01:45:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Is the same way you makes for behold intact because.

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01:45:07.239 --> 01:45:11.119
<v Speaker 1>It goes both just very important when you pay your

1949
01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>when you get charged with all intax demand for tax certificate,

1950
01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that but very.

1951
01:45:18.720 --> 01:45:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Very important, very important.

1952
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if anybody else has any closing remarks,

1953
01:45:24.119 --> 01:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>anyone that is still here before we saw of wind down.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me just let me just say that in this

1955
01:45:34.479 --> 01:45:36.000
<v Speaker 4>transition as a business.

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<v Speaker 6>Person, it's very important that you keep all your records,

1957
01:45:39.279 --> 01:45:42.840
<v Speaker 6>especially when it comes to your voices and stuff. Is

1958
01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:44.840
<v Speaker 6>very very important because at the end of the day,

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01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:48.439
<v Speaker 6>very all the time, company time, and it's best well

1960
01:45:49.079 --> 01:45:51.159
<v Speaker 6>you always prepare us if you're going to be audited,

1961
01:45:54.760 --> 01:45:57.840
<v Speaker 6>so that that happens that you get audited, you have

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01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:01.399
<v Speaker 6>all the documents to back up your claims, because that's

1963
01:46:01.439 --> 01:46:04.560
<v Speaker 6>operating becauses where they see a lack of lack of documentation,

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01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:09.960
<v Speaker 6>do we use that the penalties YEA to their penalties

1965
01:46:10.039 --> 01:46:12.640
<v Speaker 6>on and their interests and war the punishments that if

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01:46:12.720 --> 01:46:14.399
<v Speaker 6>you just suppose to see that, then.

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01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:16.800
<v Speaker 4>You can't defend your position again.

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01:46:16.880 --> 01:46:18.760
<v Speaker 8>So it's very good that they keep your documents and

1969
01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:21.880
<v Speaker 8>keep all your your receive you you know, the invoices,

1970
01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:25.399
<v Speaker 8>almost very related documents. Keep everything properly, you know, because

1971
01:46:25.399 --> 01:46:27.479
<v Speaker 8>you don't know when you need them to defend your

1972
01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:28.119
<v Speaker 8>position and.

1973
01:46:28.439 --> 01:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Your company money. Compet completely agree. So this last law

1974
01:46:33.680 --> 01:46:37.159
<v Speaker 1>has been very very controversial, right, I would say this

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01:46:38.159 --> 01:46:40.439
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the whole lot, look at the whole

1976
01:46:40.520 --> 01:46:43.680
<v Speaker 1>more in totality, what does it bring. It brings simplification,

1977
01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:48.159
<v Speaker 1>it brings modernization, and it brings a lot of exemption

1978
01:46:48.439 --> 01:46:51.880
<v Speaker 1>for this very progressive So if you're really a small taxpayer,

1979
01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:55.319
<v Speaker 1>really on the business side though, on the business side,

1980
01:46:55.359 --> 01:46:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it gives you a lot of leeway. On

1981
01:46:58.399 --> 01:47:01.079
<v Speaker 1>the business side, I would say on the side. On

1982
01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:04.439
<v Speaker 1>the personal side, I think my biggest issue with the

1983
01:47:04.520 --> 01:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>tax law is the removal of the automatic deduction, the

1984
01:47:10.119 --> 01:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty percent CR That's my biggest because it's twenty percent,

1985
01:47:14.960 --> 01:47:17.720
<v Speaker 1>but look at it this way. It's automatic. So in

1986
01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:21.039
<v Speaker 1>the old law, I don't have to do anything. I

1987
01:47:21.159 --> 01:47:26.159
<v Speaker 1>get twenty percent tax deduction automatically. In this new law,

1988
01:47:26.359 --> 01:47:28.479
<v Speaker 1>I have to do go do something, even if nothing

1989
01:47:28.600 --> 01:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>is good for me, I still have to go do it.

1990
01:47:31.039 --> 01:47:35.760
<v Speaker 1>My fear is that some Nigerians would be cash poor.

1991
01:47:36.359 --> 01:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's say next year you get married, or you buy

1992
01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:43.199
<v Speaker 1>a new car, or you are but forbid, you get

1993
01:47:43.640 --> 01:47:48.199
<v Speaker 1>somebody gets still and you cannot afford to buy those deduction.

1994
01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can't afford to do additional bunting contributions, or

1995
01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't afford to do the buy liveing. That means

1996
01:47:54.680 --> 01:47:56.720
<v Speaker 1>for that tax year you will not get a deduction

1997
01:47:56.960 --> 01:47:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that tax year because you didn't buy anything. In the

1998
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:03.479
<v Speaker 1>old scheme, you've got the twenty percent automatic with me.

1999
01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Even if you bought a car in quotes or you

2000
01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:08.479
<v Speaker 1>are ill, you still got to twenty percent of your

2001
01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:13.000
<v Speaker 1>income as a tax break. That's my big issue with

2002
01:48:13.159 --> 01:48:16.439
<v Speaker 1>this tax skin But in a tons of simplicity, modernization,

2003
01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and on the business side, the allowance is very, very progressive.

2004
01:48:20.960 --> 01:48:23.439
<v Speaker 1>So that's just my take on it. No, where don't

2005
01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>with arguing it's here. The law is here, so we

2006
01:48:27.039 --> 01:48:30.199
<v Speaker 1>have to learn how to operate within the bit of

2007
01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:33.199
<v Speaker 1>the law. Saying you will not pay it's not a strategy.

2008
01:48:33.479 --> 01:48:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Saying you are angry, it is not a strategy. You've

2009
01:48:35.720 --> 01:48:38.800
<v Speaker 1>got to understand the law and you've got to implemental

2010
01:48:38.920 --> 01:48:43.720
<v Speaker 1>deductions exemptions so you can reduce your taxable incomnastic keyword

2011
01:48:44.239 --> 01:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>reduce your taxable income venomor you have a closing word there, Yeah, you.

2012
01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:54.439
<v Speaker 3>Study, Oh, does make sure your business physicalization meaning get

2013
01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:58.960
<v Speaker 3>a receipt for everything everything you do that is business related,

2014
01:48:59.039 --> 01:48:59.960
<v Speaker 3>so you don't go it a.

2015
01:49:02.159 --> 01:49:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Business. But why can't Why can't I why can't I eat?

2016
01:49:05.880 --> 01:49:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Why can't I do that? But if I if I,

2017
01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:13.800
<v Speaker 1>if I have a meeting with with the colin, yeah,

2018
01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:25.039
<v Speaker 1>if I haven't, okay, because why can't I get cereals?

2019
01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Why I go to the restaurants for my partners in

2020
01:49:35.479 --> 01:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the I don't like when you make this when you

2021
01:49:37.680 --> 01:49:40.079
<v Speaker 1>make this thing drinking as if? What is this money

2022
01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about? If I go to a restaurant and

2023
01:49:43.760 --> 01:49:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I have the business meeting with the partner in the restaurant,

2024
01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:55.319
<v Speaker 1>that's a business expense. So what was okay? Okay? So

2025
01:49:55.840 --> 01:49:58.119
<v Speaker 1>because your life, people get confused, don't know if you're

2026
01:49:58.159 --> 01:50:03.039
<v Speaker 1>being it's what the money. Let's don't make money.

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01:50:02.840 --> 01:50:08.039
<v Speaker 4>That way, make money that way.

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<v Speaker 15>The people that make money that way.

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<v Speaker 1>My last my last question for you, but my last

2030
01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:18.159
<v Speaker 1>question for you, last question for you the video, last

2031
01:50:18.199 --> 01:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>question for the video. It's a musician, isn't the show

2032
01:50:23.039 --> 01:50:27.079
<v Speaker 1>based Mister video buys a Lamborghini, so he's instet up

2033
01:50:27.079 --> 01:50:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a company called the video Limited and limited buys a Lamborghini.

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01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, mister Wido uses that Lamborghini for videos, not

2035
01:50:40.199 --> 01:50:44.199
<v Speaker 1>that video that Wido limited by the Lamborghini. That video

2036
01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:48.039
<v Speaker 1>the person uses that Lamborghini for video shoes for to

2037
01:50:48.319 --> 01:50:51.840
<v Speaker 1>keep his image of because he says that that Lamborghini

2038
01:50:52.479 --> 01:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>is an expense and also a capex being used holy

2039
01:50:57.479 --> 01:51:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and exclusively to manufacture your entertainment content, can that Bido

2040
01:51:04.560 --> 01:51:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Limited claim that Lamborghini as a business expense?

2041
01:51:10.680 --> 01:51:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Okay, So.

2042
01:51:13.359 --> 01:51:16.319
<v Speaker 3>That expense will not if he wants to claim it

2043
01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:20.920
<v Speaker 3>holy immediately because you cannot claim your copex all of

2044
01:51:21.039 --> 01:51:23.800
<v Speaker 3>it at once. So that means it depends on what

2045
01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:26.319
<v Speaker 3>he uses the Lamborghini for. So if he bought it

2046
01:51:26.439 --> 01:51:30.479
<v Speaker 3>with the company, it's completely a business expense because it's

2047
01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:31.560
<v Speaker 3>not in the Dvidos name.

2048
01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:34.960
<v Speaker 2>It's in the company's name. So one is a business expense.

2049
01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Then secondly, if he wants to now the dog sits right,

2050
01:51:39.439 --> 01:51:39.680
<v Speaker 3>then you.

2051
01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Not say, okay, what do you use in Lamborghini for?

2052
01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:45.000
<v Speaker 3>If the video says I use that Lamborghini to shoot

2053
01:51:45.039 --> 01:51:48.119
<v Speaker 3>my music videos, I use the Lamborghini to do things

2054
01:51:48.159 --> 01:51:50.119
<v Speaker 3>that have to do with my music, and I use

2055
01:51:50.119 --> 01:51:53.920
<v Speaker 3>the Lamborghini every day or every month, So this now

2056
01:51:54.039 --> 01:52:00.000
<v Speaker 3>goes into operating expense, so the Lamborghini is operating every month.

2057
01:52:00.039 --> 01:52:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Wants for him to help him to achieve the financial

2058
01:52:03.199 --> 01:52:05.119
<v Speaker 3>activities that now turns to profit.

2059
01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:08.359
<v Speaker 2>It goes before that business expense, not.

2060
01:52:08.479 --> 01:52:11.640
<v Speaker 3>From that capext at this point, it's other business experts.

2061
01:52:11.680 --> 01:52:16.680
<v Speaker 2>So you can, yes, hundred present the Lamborghinia from.

2062
01:52:17.279 --> 01:52:23.920
<v Speaker 3>The from the company's expense in this category. I can

2063
01:52:24.039 --> 01:52:27.199
<v Speaker 3>not a missis category. He uses this maybe every month,

2064
01:52:27.359 --> 01:52:31.279
<v Speaker 3>all the time for whatever thing he's doing as business related, right,

2065
01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:32.279
<v Speaker 3>and it's not.

2066
01:52:32.479 --> 01:52:33.159
<v Speaker 2>In his name.

2067
01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:36.880
<v Speaker 1>What if you put the Lamborghina in his name?

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01:52:38.119 --> 01:52:41.520
<v Speaker 3>No, he can no longer adopt this because what is

2069
01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:43.760
<v Speaker 3>because first he will pay visit and put it in

2070
01:52:43.880 --> 01:52:46.279
<v Speaker 3>his name, and you cannot take company money to buy

2071
01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:47.159
<v Speaker 3>something for yourself.

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01:52:48.439 --> 01:52:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what I hear you saying is this, if

2073
01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:55.439
<v Speaker 1>I am making any revenue apart from my salary, any

2074
01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>revenue whatsoever, it makes sense for me to incorporate that

2075
01:52:59.359 --> 01:53:00.479
<v Speaker 1>activities out here.

2076
01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, a hundred percent create.

2077
01:53:03.600 --> 01:53:06.399
<v Speaker 1>That's what that was what I was going to Okay, fantastic,

2078
01:53:07.439 --> 01:53:10.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, guys, can him yeah, go for it.

2079
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<v Speaker 6>If he poses in his name, let's don't missed too, lily,

2080
01:53:14.600 --> 01:53:17.199
<v Speaker 6>and he puts in his name, I believe that there's

2081
01:53:17.199 --> 01:53:19.760
<v Speaker 6>a way he can lease his personally to the company

2082
01:53:20.640 --> 01:53:21.159
<v Speaker 6>and then.

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01:53:21.079 --> 01:53:24.359
<v Speaker 4>They don't the least. The least feed that accompanies.

2084
01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Paying to keep his alarm in his name, but in

2085
01:53:27.840 --> 01:53:29.359
<v Speaker 1>his name, in his name.

2086
01:53:29.439 --> 01:53:34.560
<v Speaker 6>If he puts in his name drop him, he can

2087
01:53:34.720 --> 01:53:38.239
<v Speaker 6>lease it to his own companion him drug can.

2088
01:53:38.199 --> 01:53:40.720
<v Speaker 4>Lease his personal vel get into his own company. So

2089
01:53:40.960 --> 01:53:42.680
<v Speaker 4>and then he has to talk to what they're paying

2090
01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:45.239
<v Speaker 4>in the least. You can't talk what he companies pay.

2091
01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:48.159
<v Speaker 4>Was only or your link in this from from your

2092
01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:49.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, from your taxical income.

2093
01:53:53.520 --> 01:53:55.399
<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's a good question, is asking, I

2094
01:53:55.439 --> 01:53:58.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I just as made you called the struggle

2095
01:53:58.840 --> 01:54:00.439
<v Speaker 1>in his name and the company us.

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01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, your scenario is correct. Your scenario is correct. He

2097
01:54:06.720 --> 01:54:08.079
<v Speaker 2>can do that is correct.

2098
01:54:08.479 --> 01:54:11.680
<v Speaker 3>But that remember that mister carry is asking if the

2099
01:54:11.800 --> 01:54:16.359
<v Speaker 3>purchase of the Lamborghini can be in business deductions. But

2100
01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:19.039
<v Speaker 3>now you're saying that if he bought the Lamborghinna in

2101
01:54:19.119 --> 01:54:21.680
<v Speaker 3>his name, that means that the money he used in

2102
01:54:21.800 --> 01:54:26.119
<v Speaker 3>binding Lamborghinia, that money has removed from his company accounts,

2103
01:54:26.479 --> 01:54:28.199
<v Speaker 3>it has gone to his personal account.

2104
01:54:28.359 --> 01:54:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that that money from his company.

2105
01:54:29.720 --> 01:54:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Account to his personal account has already been changed? You know,

2106
01:54:33.880 --> 01:54:36.640
<v Speaker 3>he has already paid the tax on that money. And

2107
01:54:36.760 --> 01:54:39.880
<v Speaker 3>then he's not buying that car personally. If he now

2108
01:54:39.920 --> 01:54:42.560
<v Speaker 3>rents the cart to his company, of course he can

2109
01:54:42.640 --> 01:54:46.079
<v Speaker 3>now collect that one to If that one is that

2110
01:54:46.119 --> 01:54:48.399
<v Speaker 3>coming has an income, that's also going to be tax.

2111
01:54:49.159 --> 01:54:49.680
<v Speaker 4>That was.

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01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:52.199
<v Speaker 1>An income.

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01:54:53.119 --> 01:54:56.079
<v Speaker 3>So the only so, the only way that what the

2114
01:54:56.159 --> 01:55:00.800
<v Speaker 3>scenario works is he's buying the Lamborghini with company money,

2115
01:55:01.079 --> 01:55:03.560
<v Speaker 3>with the company names so on. The Lamborghini is the

2116
01:55:04.039 --> 01:55:09.520
<v Speaker 3>entertainment that owns the Lamborghini, lamb the Lamborghinea. So if

2117
01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:13.079
<v Speaker 3>the video is buying Lamborghinia with his own personal money,

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01:55:13.520 --> 01:55:15.920
<v Speaker 3>then that means that for the mint to the personal.

2119
01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:16.920
<v Speaker 2>He has already paid tax.

2120
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<v Speaker 1>This no longer okay, My last question I promised last question?

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<v Speaker 1>What if I Calu, my example, Calu lives in the

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<v Speaker 1>house paid by the company, and Calu drives a car

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<v Speaker 1>paid by the company, how would I record that as

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<v Speaker 1>a person and would they change into camp How would

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<v Speaker 1>it be recorded in my own personal books? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>house and that car is it income to me? As

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<v Speaker 1>Carlu individual is paid by calorimeter, is.

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<v Speaker 4>It income to me?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So for example, mister Calu works in mister right, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and then mister Carmitted has given mister Calu company car.

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<v Speaker 2>Company, house and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So the position of the law is that the cars

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<v Speaker 3>that is given to mister Calum is going to the

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<v Speaker 3>law is going to look at the what is it

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<v Speaker 3>called the equivalents of that car, the world of that car,

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<v Speaker 3>the work of that house is going to follow under

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<v Speaker 3>your chargeable income is not free. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>the company is buying it for you doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 3>it's not going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Form a salary base where it's deducted.

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<v Speaker 4>In.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yes, the company has both it for you, but

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<v Speaker 3>your will not look as Okay, that house called ten million,

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<v Speaker 3>the car cost twenty million.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to bundle it up in your group

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<v Speaker 1>salary so that those benefits and can be of income.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, in based of your gross your gross.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why was it different with the video? The video's

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<v Speaker 1>company also brought him a car, So how come he

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<v Speaker 1>gets a deduction? I don't get a deduction?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I think we're mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>As the question for I'm asking you a question from yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>why why is it? Why can't I it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Different for divido because DVD company purchases is not only

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<v Speaker 3>the car, the name the owner of the car is

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<v Speaker 3>the limited.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what if by company gives the car with calor

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<v Speaker 1>limited and the bears there has its own bike.

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<v Speaker 3>So if all of the company's name for example, now, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>how do I put this? If all of the companies,

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<v Speaker 3>if the company gives you the house and the car,

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<v Speaker 3>if you be salary right, but if they be limited

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<v Speaker 3>by the Lamborghini and the uses inmborghinea is the difference

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<v Speaker 3>in the row that can be deducted in tax. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make up your gross salary. But if the compliment

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<v Speaker 3>says okay, okay, even in two scenarios, they're giving you

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<v Speaker 3>a car, right, the completely painful Remember.

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<v Speaker 2>You said the company bases, what are they complicted by?

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<v Speaker 3>What if you do what the company is limited? There's

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<v Speaker 3>a portaise, right, and it was made by the company.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be done as an expense at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day. But the beneficiary of this one,

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<v Speaker 3>now enough prompts your.

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<v Speaker 2>Base, your big group b and everything kind.

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<v Speaker 3>So this usually happens when you are in an employment

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<v Speaker 3>contract with somebody. So if you're working for yourself, it's

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<v Speaker 3>also you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Also being yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, it still makes your group salary.

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<v Speaker 1>It still makes well what I wanted to go. I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to make it differension between an inner and

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<v Speaker 1>an employee, an owner and an employer, and I thank

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<v Speaker 1>you that you you found that. And I'm saying because

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<v Speaker 1>I look, people are understanding what we're saying. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are an owner, you are there from my employee, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it's your company, if your company employees an employee, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you own the company owner, so do that

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<v Speaker 1>information what you will. There's a little fantastic Sunday guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've blent a lot lot myself, and lots

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<v Speaker 1>of folks have lent a lot as well, lots of

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<v Speaker 1>d ms. Again, had to read dms. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>them to be true. And of course have to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to our baby. So do I appreciate you coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>but no matter again you said you were launching your

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<v Speaker 1>pay pers. Where was it on the twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Four of January as was blown? Okay, if you are interested,

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<v Speaker 3>please go to our paypers accounts and fill the fam

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<v Speaker 3>And also if you have any questions about tax you

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<v Speaker 3>want to know how we can give to the taxation.

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<v Speaker 2>Please hit the pay pers.

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<v Speaker 3>Stealing all of your questions, I will answer, so the

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<v Speaker 3>graphic designer can make it as what is it called

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<v Speaker 3>as a flyer where we answer all of the questions.

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<v Speaker 4>You might have.

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<v Speaker 3>So even if able to treat your you particularly today

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<v Speaker 3>right now, you can still continue the conversation after this

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<v Speaker 3>faced flow to the DM and after these questions from

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<v Speaker 3>two days after the other and will make it an

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<v Speaker 3>implyers so every person can see, can.

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<v Speaker 1>You also give gifts of my books to folks and

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<v Speaker 1>actually nice?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, yes, yes I can. I can't give gifts.

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<v Speaker 3>So the issue now is where do we get the

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<v Speaker 3>books in Nigeria. So if you're if you're someone that

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<v Speaker 3>can get mister callous book in Nigeria, we want to

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<v Speaker 3>give three of mister Callow's books because you'll have to

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<v Speaker 3>be fine. If finance is something.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody needs to know. Everybody needs to know finance.

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<v Speaker 3>And this before we end, I just want to touch

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<v Speaker 3>this last thing right and and young government is trying

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<v Speaker 3>to take the money.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's something they did as I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit clever.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if I say that's ever by half because they

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<v Speaker 3>are charging seventy percent. Is if you if you're elders

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<v Speaker 3>than seventy percent, then they're not taxing you. It's another story.

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<v Speaker 3>A doon'e going to it, but a please. They are

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<v Speaker 3>incentivising you to have a pension that comes. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you're working in an employment so as an employer, if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have all the fifty stuff, you're not you're

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<v Speaker 3>not required by the law to register with pain Come.

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<v Speaker 3>But you as an individual, you can register.

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<v Speaker 2>In pain Come.

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<v Speaker 3>So imagine you're eighty four, right, and remember you can

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<v Speaker 3>put eight of your money what a salary you're being

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<v Speaker 3>paid if you're a freelancer, into your pain Come accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine you start doing that every month, one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>every month until the day you're fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll be a millioneer and you retire without having your

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<v Speaker 3>children to give you food.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so take advantage of this laws. Imagine you're paying

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<v Speaker 2>for your relative. Right if you're you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't have to go and look for contributions by medicine

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<v Speaker 3>because you're already paying for your insurance and also that

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<v Speaker 3>life insurance pree your annuity. Please take advantage of this.

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<v Speaker 3>If you do not do it, the young will take

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<v Speaker 3>your money. So do not let them take your money.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do it is really really important. Register for your life insurance.

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<v Speaker 3>But what now advise you do not tell the person

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<v Speaker 3>the head in the nests of king, do not tell

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<v Speaker 3>anybody that you registered a general advis advice people to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, But don't tell anybody that because I'm kidding

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<v Speaker 3>you to take insurance because there's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of money or the insurance if you die.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, just imagine that you enter into an accidents,

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<v Speaker 3>you that your family. I'm not going to pry.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather, I'll say this way right, buy life insurance and

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<v Speaker 1>put your trust as the beneficiary. So this way right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you pass away, the money goes to your trust.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a trustee and be a copied trusty that then

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<v Speaker 1>takes over your wishes. So if you have daughters, you

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<v Speaker 1>have sons, you have grandparents in the village, you support,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe your church in the village and all that, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not righting. The will write and trust and say, should

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<v Speaker 1>I pass away, all my money should be used to

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<v Speaker 1>educate my daughters. When my daughters are for educated, give

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<v Speaker 1>them a life salary of million a month or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Whatever balance I have, send it to my truck.

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<v Speaker 1>You put all these wuistions in your trust. You give

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<v Speaker 1>your appoint a corporate trust is that many of them

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<v Speaker 1>are first trustees and lead tructre all over the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Negos get them corporate trustee. Then you when you buy

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<v Speaker 1>life insurance, even your arrested, you put a corporate beneficiary,

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<v Speaker 1>not yourself, and then you can tell you your relatives.

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<v Speaker 1>My beneficiary is the trust. So nothing happens to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you pass away today, no one's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get your money because your trust gets the proceeds and

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<v Speaker 1>your trust will then carry out your wishes to educate

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02:03:55.800 --> 02:03:59.119
<v Speaker 1>your kids. They give money to your kids after they've graduated,

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02:03:59.439 --> 02:04:02.039
<v Speaker 1>and they can't support your charge or your hobby after

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02:04:02.159 --> 02:04:05.720
<v Speaker 1>your pass testamentary trust. So even if you have passed

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<v Speaker 1>me that trust, godless are still going to be taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of. So do those things use finance to your benefits.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do exactly and you don't as well. But thanks

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. We'll talk about the books. Yeah, all right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Bob, and I appreciate you guys

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in here, and I hope you guys listening today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you guys next next week, we're bringing a

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<v Speaker 1>stockbroker that's gonna come in and show us his twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six plan Nigerian stocks for the stocks. What portfolio

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<v Speaker 1>is he building now for twenty twenty six. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have that stockbroker here, very experienced guy. You guys make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you join and I'll definitely see you guys next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks you so much for being.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, Thank you so much for having me. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you guys have a good one.
