Speaker 1: Ready, get ready for it?
Speaker 2: Hey march, let me chap this bang March sixth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar,
Speaker 2: and this is the o'celli effect. And it's Friday night,
Speaker 2: so we're doing the call in show. We started about
Speaker 2: thirteen minutes late. But what the hell are you gonna
Speaker 2: do when technology doesn't want to cooperate anyway? We could
Speaker 2: be discussing a variety of things tonight, but that's mainly
Speaker 2: up to you guys, unless you don't call in, and
Speaker 2: then I just wind up talking to be Pete And
Speaker 2: that worked out fine a couple episodes, or maybe it
Speaker 2: was last episode a go. We talked about music a
Speaker 2: lot of the night. I kind of enjoyed that it
Speaker 2: was way low stress and everything. Of course, you might
Speaker 2: want to discuss the action in Iran and spreading throughout
Speaker 2: the Middle East at the moment, because Lebanon's been bombed,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. I don't know, maybe you want
Speaker 2: to talk about that. Maybe you want to talk about
Speaker 2: ice Barbie getting iced?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe is there more cabinet changes coming? I mean,
Speaker 2: did she really disappoint Trump? Why is she stepping down.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe you got ideas. Maybe we discuss
Speaker 2: the upcoming baseball season. I don't know, just throwing it
Speaker 2: out there. It's up to you, guys. Three one nine,
Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six. Now. I tried
Speaker 2: to do the Donald Jeffrey Show, believe it or not.
Speaker 2: I started around five Eastern and I tried to do it.
Speaker 2: And you know what I got to do is be
Speaker 2: a jerk on there. So I'm waiting to see what
Speaker 2: the reaction is from the Tony Rderburn Network, because then
Speaker 2: technical difficulties knocked me completely off of the show.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: It just kept knocking me off and screwing up things
Speaker 2: and making me disappear and all kinds of nonsense. And
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't cope with it, and neither could
Speaker 2: anybody else. But I tried to talk to Don for
Speaker 2: about an hour and fifteen, and I'll tell you, I
Speaker 2: don't even know what got recorded. So I guess we'll
Speaker 2: have to see when he posts his latest episode of
Speaker 2: eye Protest. But I spent a good twenty minutes trying
Speaker 2: to say, Don, you're smarter than to accept the we
Speaker 2: didn't go to the moon bs on his show, and
Speaker 2: I was willing to make a larger point, but don
Speaker 2: defaulted to his Well that's your opinion. This is my
Speaker 2: opinion when I'm trying to tell him no. With logical, observable,
Speaker 2: objective things, you can see that Bart Sibrel is on
Speaker 2: a hustle. And yes, Dave McGowan was a very interesting author,
Speaker 2: but he was wrong, dude. And look at the loaded
Speaker 2: statements that you make just in expressing your opinion about
Speaker 2: the certainty of well, why didn't we go back to
Speaker 2: the Moon after we went there in nineteen sixty nine? Okay, Well, anyway,
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, three four deep statements about things
Speaker 2: that didn't happen, couldn't have happened, we didn't continue the
Speaker 2: space program, et cetera. And I went look logical fallacies
Speaker 2: in your statements. We didn't go to Mars, we didn't
Speaker 2: got Yeah, we did, just unmanned. See, just like we
Speaker 2: went to the Moon first unmanned. Well, how do you
Speaker 2: explain breaking the Van Allen Belt. It's thinner in certain spots,
Speaker 2: and a little bit of shielding makes a lot of
Speaker 2: difference in a different atmosphere that happens to be a
Speaker 2: vacuum logical, scientific stuff that defeats majority of the moon
Speaker 2: hoax stuff. Unless you believe that you know, nothing is
Speaker 2: real in that case, how about it. Anyways, I was
Speaker 2: doing that for twenty minutes, and I didn't think I
Speaker 2: made Don a little upset, and then I had technical
Speaker 2: difficulties cut me off when we got to talk in politics.
Speaker 2: So I might have angered Don. Jeffries B Pete. What
Speaker 2: do you got thoughts, Well, no, I was gonna.
Speaker 5: Doesn't he realized we landed on the moon with men
Speaker 5: six times? No, he says, we didn't go past after
Speaker 5: nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 2: Well, but there it is. Even if they accept that
Speaker 2: somebody you know, went to No, it's all been faked.
Speaker 2: You see, all of it's been faked, vped according to
Speaker 2: these guys. So everything is faked.
Speaker 5: The sixty nine trees, Sandy Hook was faked. I mean,
Speaker 5: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: But that's what I was trying to get out of matter.
Speaker 2: It's like, listen, Sandy Hook. We could argue through minutia
Speaker 2: what was reported in the news versus what was actually collected.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to go there, and I didn't
Speaker 2: even want to go to any of these harsh political
Speaker 2: brutalities with him. I wanted to go to the lightest
Speaker 2: subject possible, which is don you should be smarter than
Speaker 2: to believe that the moon landing was a hoax. And
Speaker 2: he sticks by the two authors that he believes in,
Speaker 2: and one of them was recently on Joe Rogan.
Speaker 5: I don't know how recently, long loss, Yeah, good, long
Speaker 5: lost sun of Fetzer.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the messed up thing is when he's citing
Speaker 2: all these things that help him to believe stuff, right,
Speaker 2: he seems too rational to accept fetserisms, but he cites
Speaker 2: Fetzer as somebody who did good work on stuff, and
Speaker 2: I go on, what listen, the guy has you know,
Speaker 2: what he's got good work on is a simple speech.
Speaker 2: I mean seriously, his simple speech about conspiracy theory and
Speaker 2: how it is a lot much more logical course than
Speaker 2: a single lone wolf nut doing things. Is a good
Speaker 2: presentation until he veers into the facts of things, or
Speaker 2: alleged facts of things that he thinks he's you know,
Speaker 2: projecting forward. And that's the problem. The philosophy with Fetzer
Speaker 2: sounds right, and then he goes off on tangents that
Speaker 2: are absolutely ridiculous. So this is my thing. He is
Speaker 2: kind of like a smaller and more rational version of Fetzer,
Speaker 2: who's less hostile. And I'm like, dude, listen, let's go
Speaker 2: the moon landing thing. Why are you doing this? And
Speaker 2: let me listen to your statements about it and tell
Speaker 2: you where you're building in logical fallacies into your statements.
Speaker 2: We never went to Mars. Okay, the space program was discontinued. Don,
Speaker 2: the space program was not discontinued. They just didn't send
Speaker 2: astronauts again there. Well why didn't we go back to
Speaker 2: the Moon? I said, don, why would we? You? See?
Speaker 2: This is the thing. It's not like you have this
Speaker 2: crazy idea that somebody needs to build a base there
Speaker 2: and everything else. Maybe they're not quite ready to do that,
Speaker 2: although they have built habitats enclosed in domes here on
Speaker 2: Earth as part of the experimental process. But then you
Speaker 2: have to figure out what the environment out there is
Speaker 2: affecting people, you know, like Sibrell talks about, well the
Speaker 2: temperature is nine hundred degrees on the Moon or whatever
Speaker 2: the hell, And it's like, dude, okay, yes, true, and
Speaker 2: how is it these guys didn't melt very simple? They
Speaker 2: are not in Earth's atmosphere where they would burn to
Speaker 2: a crisp at nine hundred degrees because it is not
Speaker 2: just the heat but the thing that conducts the heat.
Speaker 2: So literally, if you're in a vacuum and that heat
Speaker 2: can't be transferred to you, it doesn't matter what the
Speaker 2: temperature is, does it. You know, like this is the problem,
Speaker 2: like simple basic side, Well, how did we get through
Speaker 2: the Van Allen belt? You know, the radiation belt? Well,
Speaker 2: there's a simple like In other words, there are simple
Speaker 2: and scientific explanations that require not much more than they
Speaker 2: used to teach us in middle school, and a little
Speaker 2: bit of investigation when it comes to things like, you
Speaker 2: know the properties of radiation, what happens the cumulative effects?
Speaker 2: You know, much like an X ray you know, indeed
Speaker 2: is an intense form of radiation for a second, so
Speaker 2: it doesn't pile up and cumulate on your body. Now,
Speaker 2: if you're being exposed to X rays for hours or
Speaker 2: days on end, you're gonna cook yourself. You know, this
Speaker 2: is why. And also sensitive things like why do they
Speaker 2: still put lead on your junk when they're X raying
Speaker 2: the rest of your body? Right? Because shielding And that's
Speaker 2: the funny thing when you look at the Van Allen Belt.
Speaker 2: There are certain areas where it's not that dense, and
Speaker 2: indeed they would have to be in there for an
Speaker 2: hour or two, you know, in the Van Allen Belt.
Speaker 2: But during that hour or two, one they're shielding, and
Speaker 2: two it's really not that much that gets onto and
Speaker 2: cumulates on anything else because you don't have the same
Speaker 2: type of exposure. Now, somebody blasted you with that much
Speaker 2: radiation on Earth, they'd fry you, you know. But this
Speaker 2: is the thing. There is different conductivity. It's sort of
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna run my electricity through a rubber wire,
Speaker 2: different conducit, you know, different conduit means different effect. You
Speaker 2: ain't rubbing in it through a rubber wire without the
Speaker 2: metal in it, are you. So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's I just tried to like break up a couple
Speaker 2: of his statements, like explain to me why you believe this?
Speaker 2: And his overall great points are the ones that the
Speaker 2: moon you know, hoax people make, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: let's examine that. They didn't go back they discontinued the
Speaker 2: space program. They never did. They minimized it, you know,
Speaker 2: but they did not eliminate it. They just stopped sending
Speaker 2: people to the moon. So b Moore, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And it's like, oh, and I read this
Speaker 2: book and of course it's the casing book that freaking
Speaker 2: what's his name, Sebrell, you know, leans into. I knew
Speaker 2: a guy who had new classified things for NASA. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: if you checked indicasing, there's no indication that he held
Speaker 2: that job. Okay, and please, it's just it's such a mess,
Speaker 2: like check the information. And he said, you know what,
Speaker 2: that's probably why I've never written about it in any
Speaker 2: of my books, because I would want to give verifiable
Speaker 2: references and things. I said, well, precisely, then, why is
Speaker 2: it that you make a grand statement that you believe
Speaker 2: in such a fantastic thing if you're admitting yourself you
Speaker 2: never committed it to paper because you didn't have enough
Speaker 2: verifiable evidence to put in it. Anyway, it just came
Speaker 2: down to it, well, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Speaker 2: It's what Don said, and I'm like, no, see, this
Speaker 2: isn't my opinion. There is a difference when I present
Speaker 2: things that are my opinion, and yes I have them,
Speaker 2: and they might be backed by things, but my opinion
Speaker 2: on its own is nothing, and neither is yours. And
Speaker 2: this is the sickness in our society right now. My
Speaker 2: opinion matters, now, it doesn't not if you want to
Speaker 2: actually study the thing itself, your opinions, your opinion, it
Speaker 2: matters to you. Yes, you're allowed to speak it. I
Speaker 2: would never stop you from doing it, no matter how
Speaker 2: stupid it is. But your opinion is just that, your opinion,
Speaker 2: and most people have allowed that to be hijacked and
Speaker 2: they don't think. So this is what my argument is.
Speaker 2: I mean, and this is why I get myself in trouble.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, he's an anti conspiracy guy. No, actually,
Speaker 2: I'm probably more crazy than most of you. The problem
Speaker 2: is I require evidence, you know, my opinion doesn't do
Speaker 2: it anyway. So I did that for twenty minutes that
Speaker 2: I was kind of like thinking we're going to transition
Speaker 2: into something cool. And then yeah, interference kept happening, and
Speaker 2: I noticed that it went really crazy when I said, look,
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about actual criminality, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you about criminality. And then all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 2: the internet connection would drops, people would start spinning breaking off.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it was just bad luck.
Speaker 3: Or what.
Speaker 2: But I have no idea what they recorded outside of
Speaker 2: me trying to bust his balls on why the hell
Speaker 2: do you believe in the moon landing problem? And then
Speaker 2: even a listener put up a chat during this and said,
Speaker 2: we'll explain this, and I did. Now, I guarantee you
Speaker 2: neither one of these guys, that listener or Don are
Speaker 2: going to ever accept anything other than guess what that
Speaker 2: thing driven by their opinion because I and the reason
Speaker 2: why I brought it up to Don is because I
Speaker 2: observed it while producing his show where he would have
Speaker 2: people on and then he would say, I know you
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have this person on, and I would say, yes, Don,
Speaker 2: And here's why. Privately, right, I would say, Don, the
Speaker 2: reason is because this is a waste of time. This
Speaker 2: guy is full of crap, and here's why. And this
Speaker 2: woman is full of crap and here's why. You know,
Speaker 2: not my opinion on it, but here's evidence you can
Speaker 2: look at that contradicts their story. And that's what drives
Speaker 2: me up a wall. It's like nobody can ever sort
Speaker 2: the story they want to hear from. How do I
Speaker 2: verify this or what contradicts it? As far as evidence
Speaker 2: collection is because nobody has any It's like Jim Fetzer
Speaker 2: constantly going, I have evidence. They won't let me put
Speaker 2: it in court because it's an Internet print out and
Speaker 2: therefore hearsay it's got nothing to do with you and
Speaker 2: doesn't resemble something called evidence. You ask, I mean ask
Speaker 2: being a freaking Fetser obviously, but that's what he was
Speaker 2: doing in that court. And we even had a guy
Speaker 2: there for a couple of days reporting on it. Like
Speaker 2: he keeps trying to put stuff in they won't let him.
Speaker 2: He violates the directions of the court. I mean, Fetzer
Speaker 2: deserved to get hit with that lawsuit and pay it
Speaker 2: because he absolutely failed to defend himself correctly if he
Speaker 2: had any way to do it. He presented nothing of
Speaker 2: use and violated stuff and didn't do stuff right, and
Speaker 2: then tried to bring them evidence of stuff that wasn't
Speaker 2: even on the table. It's like watching a child argue
Speaker 2: with you about the bills, you know, Like, but he brings.
Speaker 5: The food listen, doesn't he doesn't he support Judith Baker?
Speaker 2: See I don't think he does. But yeah, but but
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 6: Well no, I think I was.
Speaker 5: I remember back when he when you were putting his
Speaker 5: show on some of the things that I've listened to,
Speaker 5: and I'm thinking, this guy really hasn't done a lot
Speaker 5: of research in anything. And it was my it was
Speaker 5: my impression that yeah, he was Judith Baker supporter.
Speaker 6: Well, and I thought, well, then that's it right there.
Speaker 5: I mean, he supports Fetzer, he thinks Sandy Hook is
Speaker 5: real Judith Baker.
Speaker 6: Now I'm done with him. I don't even listen to
Speaker 6: him anymore.
Speaker 5: No, and I guarantee you anything you said to him
Speaker 5: privately about one of his guests did not remain private.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sure of that too. But but that's not
Speaker 2: I'd like, I care, But that's not the point. The
Speaker 2: point is that, yeah, if I thought he was like
Speaker 2: Fetzer and Baker supportive, I would have I would have
Speaker 2: not produced him. But what I thought is that he
Speaker 2: had some old bad ideas that he kept pushing, which
Speaker 2: he did. But anytime I gave him something, you know
Speaker 2: to say, look, man, if you really want to look
Speaker 2: into it, look into this. This is much more solid
Speaker 2: than you know what may Brussel said, Like, it just
Speaker 2: seemed like some of his information was outdated and he
Speaker 2: was sort of stuck too well, I really and he
Speaker 2: even did this during this conversation. I admired Mark Lane.
Speaker 2: I admired Mark Lane. Okay, and so did I to
Speaker 2: a degree.
Speaker 5: But the thing is, yeah, yeah, even Mark Lane got
Speaker 5: stuff wrong, right, he got stuff wrong.
Speaker 2: And Harold Weisberg, who is you know, much respected among
Speaker 2: many JFK researchers, failed to get some things correct. Okay,
Speaker 2: but he usually brought documentation at least.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: But but when he got into things like hey, that's
Speaker 2: Oswald in the doorway, I mean, he was wrong, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just.
Speaker 6: Well, but that's JUSTO he was.
Speaker 5: He was one of the few that when he found
Speaker 5: out he was wrong, he would tell people I was wrong.
Speaker 6: I got that wrong. Yes, got press out.
Speaker 2: See. But there's my point. You know, there's a guy
Speaker 2: who goes, look, I thought this was right, but it's no.
Speaker 2: But there are some people and this is what I was.
Speaker 2: And I've always wondered this about Don, Like does he
Speaker 2: realize that no matter what is presented to him, he
Speaker 2: just defaults back to what he learned in like nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy nine, Like he doesn't evolve his reliable information. You know. Well,
Speaker 2: Dave McGowan said it this guy Casing wrote a book
Speaker 2: and bart Sebrelle says it, Okay, we didn't go to
Speaker 2: the Moon, and it's like, well, examine their evidence, examine
Speaker 2: their claims, and you know, like he claims, oh they
Speaker 2: classified all the rate. They never classified. Jack. They shared
Speaker 2: it with the Russians, and the Russians verified angrily and
Speaker 2: even verified the moon rocks when they came back, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: these couldn't have been on this planet because they don't
Speaker 2: have the same you know whatever. There's a certain radiation
Speaker 2: signature to things on planet Earth and it's all common,
Speaker 2: but if you get stuff from another planet or another
Speaker 2: terrestrial body, it will be different. And the Moon is
Speaker 2: different than the Earth just is I mean, just by
Speaker 2: the fact that it's in a vacuum, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: all of its environment affected differently. We are not in
Speaker 2: a vacuum, so you know, and that's the other thing, like, oh,
Speaker 2: we would have burned a death. I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: on and on and on, and no matter what, these
Speaker 2: guys will deflect to another thing. And I'm not saying,
Speaker 2: Jeffries is even a big moonhax guy. All I'm saying
Speaker 2: is it's one of those things where he's like, wow,
Speaker 2: we never went to the moon. He comments on it
Speaker 2: all the time on his show like throw like as
Speaker 2: a throwaway comment, like, well, of course we didn't go
Speaker 2: to the moon. So that's the only reason why I
Speaker 2: brought it up, because I'm thinking to myself, this is
Speaker 2: my opportunity. Because I've never been a guest on his show.
Speaker 2: Really outside of when I was producing and I filled
Speaker 2: in or talked to him on his show, I wasn't
Speaker 2: really like his guest ever. He's been my guest several times,
Speaker 2: and I still respect the work he did in Survival
Speaker 2: of the Fittest, I mean a Survival of the Richest.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, But I also told him I don't get
Speaker 2: the point of the book Bullocracy because it's not about bullying.
Speaker 2: It's a different dynamic. And I think, you know, but
Speaker 2: that's my opinion of his work there. I don't find
Speaker 2: that as valuable. But Survival of the Richest. I must
Speaker 2: have done five two hour shows with Don Jefferies on
Speaker 2: just that book, you know what I mean. It's not
Speaker 2: like I don't think the guy's got a brain. It's
Speaker 2: not like I think he's a Charlotte and obviously not
Speaker 2: and then he's talking about well, the alternative media and
Speaker 2: this and that, and I'm like, Don, how many years
Speaker 2: behind are you? Because the alternative media is dead. You know,
Speaker 2: there is no alternative. Everything is a joke. Alex Jones
Speaker 2: is still the alternative TOSM Are you kidding me? I mean,
Speaker 2: that's just another corporation. It just happens to be a
Speaker 2: little smaller than that giant, massive conglomerate that's going to
Speaker 2: be I don't know Netflix, ABC, NBC or I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure how many things are coming together.
Speaker 2: I'm being facetious. There there are many corporations coming together
Speaker 2: in the media world. To where we used to complain
Speaker 2: about seven, you know, media organizations, and we complained about six.
Speaker 2: I think we're going to be complaining about four very soon, uh,
Speaker 2: because they're consolidating all of the electronic media. Anyway, let
Speaker 2: me look at the phone lines, because I didn't even
Speaker 2: check that out. Three one nine, five two seven, five
Speaker 2: zero one six. I was just trying to catch you
Speaker 2: guys up on what happened there. But I got very
Speaker 2: frustrated because I had, you know, sort of mentally prepared
Speaker 2: a little bit to do, you know, Don show, and
Speaker 2: I even went on camera and like, you know, put
Speaker 2: on my sunglasses so I didn't get aggravated like one
Speaker 2: of the things I you know, I'm rubbing my head
Speaker 2: and trying to take care of my eyes when I'm
Speaker 2: doing this show. But if I'm on camera, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna put my sunglasses on so I can relax and speak.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: So I did that on his show, and I had
Speaker 2: a punish your hat on which you know, people take
Speaker 2: his weird things, and the producer told me about that
Speaker 2: before I went on, so I was like, well, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna address that right out of the gate.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, I like the comic book and these you know,
Speaker 2: shades or prescription they're not a fashion statement, you know,
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But we never got very far because
Speaker 2: I spent twenty minutes on that, and the next thing
Speaker 2: I knew is I was being shredded digitally, like I
Speaker 2: just could not show up. I couldn't hear questions. Some
Speaker 2: guy joined the panel out of the chat room, I guess,
Speaker 2: and said he used to be a fan of mine
Speaker 2: and was trying to explain to me why he isn't anymore,
Speaker 2: uh you know, And there was an old guy talking
Speaker 2: about stuff, and he was pretty cool, and Billy Ray
Speaker 2: Valentine was on there, but I mean it was a
Speaker 2: it was a mess otherwise three one nine five two
Speaker 2: seven five zero one six. If you want to join
Speaker 2: this tonight with me and b Pete. But I haven't
Speaker 2: even turned it over to be Pete, check in with
Speaker 2: him for the week. We got one caller, Jimmy hang On,
Speaker 2: going to get to you right away, but I do
Speaker 2: want to give Bepete a chance to speak since I'm
Speaker 2: monopolized time now for about, dear God, almost twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry anyway, sorry about that. Be Pete. Please go
Speaker 2: ahead and take the mic and let us know how
Speaker 2: you've been this week, what's going on. I liked last
Speaker 2: week's show though, just saying go.
Speaker 5: Ahead, yeah, last week went good. This week, hell, it
Speaker 5: was summertime today. We were up in the eighties, and
Speaker 5: I don't know if you can tell, but I am
Speaker 5: plugged up because it is now pollen season. So I
Speaker 5: may be hitting the mic the sneeze button here a
Speaker 5: few times, but other than that, we're doing good, enjoying
Speaker 5: this weather from.
Speaker 6: What we've had in the past.
Speaker 5: You can finally get outside a pair of shorts and
Speaker 5: enjoy yourself.
Speaker 6: But going through the.
Speaker 5: List of stuff like I did last week, I got
Speaker 5: seven little items here we can throw out and discuss.
Speaker 5: I guess the first is, you know, we got off air.
Speaker 5: Apparently we went to war, So that's been the big
Speaker 5: topic all week. And I don't agree with the war,
Speaker 5: but I can understand why they did what they did
Speaker 5: when they did, based on the intelligence that they had
Speaker 5: that everybody was in a meeting and if you want
Speaker 5: to take them out, now, it's the time to do it.
Speaker 6: And they did.
Speaker 5: And then they took out the next guy that was
Speaker 5: supposed to run things, and then they took out the
Speaker 5: next guy that was supposed to run things. So it's
Speaker 5: going to be interesting to see if we end up
Speaker 5: putting people on the ground, which you know they've claimed
Speaker 5: we're not going to do. But then again, Trump said
Speaker 5: we weren't going to be going into any new wars either,
Speaker 5: So go figure number two. The conservative podcast world has
Speaker 5: gone to crap.
Speaker 6: I have never seen a more.
Speaker 5: Disgruntled, disorganized group of individuals, and I've never really seen
Speaker 5: the downfall of something happened so quickly as it has
Speaker 5: in the past four months.
Speaker 6: You've got people.
Speaker 5: That were diehard MAGA fans and they've done complete one
Speaker 5: eighties and now the whole conservative aspect of it is
Speaker 5: just shattered. It's gotten so bad now that we've had
Speaker 5: a resurgence of Nazism apparently in this country, and it's
Speaker 5: hit and everything.
Speaker 2: So yes that I don't know which side of that
Speaker 2: well that and on the other side of the spectrum, yeah,
Speaker 2: on the other side of the spectrum VPT. I just
Speaker 2: want to say that I literally watched a conservative black
Speaker 2: podcaster that I do usually follow. I've never brought him
Speaker 2: up on the show before. I will at some point,
Speaker 2: but this dude literally said something like, you know, how
Speaker 2: do you turning point? You know USA bitches like mega
Speaker 2: now and he's a conservative guy, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's on. I'm just saying. It's just like, I'm actually
Speaker 2: amused by the civil war in the stupid media and
Speaker 2: the conservative media right now. There are various conflicts, yeah,
Speaker 2: and they are two.
Speaker 5: Separate things, but go on, definitely auocrats here about what
Speaker 5: two years ago. Now we're seeing the conservatives start eating
Speaker 5: their own and it's it's pretty damn funny to watch
Speaker 5: these people that have changed their position one hundred and
Speaker 5: eighty degrees from where they were even ten months ago.
Speaker 5: It's just it's hilarious to watch, and you can see
Speaker 5: it in their numbers. They're losing followers, they're dropping in
Speaker 5: the podcast list, and it couldn't happen to a nicer
Speaker 5: bunch of people.
Speaker 6: I'll just put it that.
Speaker 2: Way, right, I mean number three ahead.
Speaker 6: Interesting little story I heard.
Speaker 5: Okay, curling was a big thing in the Winter Olympics,
Speaker 5: and I saw a story today on what they actually
Speaker 5: do with the curling stones once the Olympics are over with.
Speaker 5: They actually ship them back to the company that made
Speaker 5: them in Scotland, and it's Key Industries in Scotland and
Speaker 5: they've been making them for one hundred years. They actually
Speaker 5: take the old stones and cut cores out of them
Speaker 5: and grind them down and they make a collector's addition.
Speaker 5: This year they're going to make two and twenty six
Speaker 5: many curling stones, and they three D print the huck,
Speaker 5: which is the it's the wedge that you put your
Speaker 5: foot against before you push off, So they make a
Speaker 5: decorative huck and they grind these stones down and they
Speaker 5: place them in the huck with a small handle.
Speaker 6: They've got a guy that next door that.
Speaker 5: Does three D printing to make all this stuff, and
Speaker 5: I thought that was a pretty unique use to recycle
Speaker 5: these things. And what they're doing with the money. One,
Speaker 5: they're putting the money back into the Olympics and into
Speaker 5: the sport. They're supporting these organizations that keep the sport going.
Speaker 5: But they're also try to develop a tourist site. They're
Speaker 5: on this island that they get the granted from, so
Speaker 5: that people can go and see the whole operation.
Speaker 6: It's just amazing the way that they do this, and.
Speaker 5: I thought that was pretty interesting that here they are
Speaker 5: recycling something and making a collectible, a numbered collection too.
Speaker 5: I mean, these things are worth something for people that
Speaker 5: are the biggest fans number four on Twitter.
Speaker 6: X whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 5: It's the Catholics versus the Protestants and they're just trashing
Speaker 5: each other left and right, which I find totally amusing
Speaker 5: for religious groups to go after each other with such vigor.
Speaker 5: And it's really gotten rough. And it all started out
Speaker 5: with this Zionism crap. You know, Zionism isn't biblical. Well
Speaker 5: it is, but not in the way that you think.
Speaker 5: In the way it is being produced today, so I'll
Speaker 5: leave it at that. Number five. Joe Biden was at
Speaker 5: the Jesse Jackson fe funeral and stood up in front
Speaker 5: of everybody has said.
Speaker 6: I'm probably a lot smarter than most of you here, and.
Speaker 5: I thought, you know, this guy is really taking his
Speaker 5: last chef at people every chance he gets, and I'm
Speaker 5: wondering how long he's got left.
Speaker 6: Joe Biden's brain is toast to people.
Speaker 5: I'll go ahead to say you right now number six,
Speaker 5: And this is the debate.
Speaker 6: I'm wondering if we'll get into tonight.
Speaker 5: Daylight savings time comes up this weekend, and I am
Speaker 5: of the impression that if you want to wake up
Speaker 5: an hour later, move your ass to the East one
Speaker 5: time zone, because this daylight savings time is the most
Speaker 5: ridiculous thing that we've been doing for the past twenty
Speaker 5: damn years, and it's time to put a stop to
Speaker 5: it and just look at the clock and not have
Speaker 5: to guess to have to turn it forward or do
Speaker 5: we turn it back? Well, you know the saying is
Speaker 5: spring forward, fallback, to do away with that. Let time
Speaker 5: be time. If you don't wake up in a different time zone,
Speaker 5: then move otherwise. I got no support for you, and lastly,
Speaker 5: for all you people out there that have been screaming
Speaker 5: about these Dan Epstein files, complaining about this, and they've
Speaker 5: not let that out. Congress just voted three hundred and
Speaker 5: sixty five to sixty five to keep hidden the files
Speaker 5: associated with the congressional slush fund of eighteen point two
Speaker 5: million dollars to settle sexual harassment claims by people in office.
Speaker 6: This has been going on. I heard mention of it
Speaker 6: a few years ago, and I didn't really think.
Speaker 5: It was up to that high in an amount, eighteen
Speaker 5: point two million dollars to settle sexual harassment and sexual
Speaker 5: abuse claims against people that are sitting in.
Speaker 6: Office right now.
Speaker 5: So, if you've been bitching about the Epstein file for
Speaker 5: the past two years, three years, four years.
Speaker 6: Whatever the hell long it is, and you voted against
Speaker 6: opening these files, you should be voted out.
Speaker 5: You shouldn't even be voted out of office. We ought
Speaker 5: to impeach your ass right now and throw you out
Speaker 5: and get rid of you. Three hundred and sixty five
Speaker 5: to sixty five. Now, what does that tell you about
Speaker 5: the people in office on both sides of the damn aisle.
Speaker 5: They're covering their own asses and as time we clean house.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there is my list.
Speaker 2: It tells you that I'm not exactly wrong about my position,
Speaker 2: being that we have one party, and that one party
Speaker 2: works together to cover each other's asses and to play
Speaker 2: villain to one another every so often to keep us
Speaker 2: happy thinking that we're winning. I mean, you know, people
Speaker 2: have come to me recently and been like, you know,
Speaker 2: I stopped listening to you because blah blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But I gotta say that a lot
Speaker 2: of things you said are starting to have in. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know I had told you so maybe anyways, Danny's
Speaker 2: still on the line, Jimmy, I hope you call back in.
Speaker 2: I know that v Pete decided to read his list.
Speaker 2: I took twenty minutes, and VPTE just took another ten.
Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do? It is what it is.
Speaker 2: But now we're just gonna stick with phone calls. And
Speaker 2: I say, we ride with whatever the listeners bring. I
Speaker 2: don't care what it is. I'll even talk about those
Speaker 2: those curling trophy things, commemorative curling what are they stones?
Speaker 2: Commemorative curling stones. I think that's great. Actually, I have
Speaker 2: no care about curling. I think it's hilarious. I don't
Speaker 2: give a crap about it. You know, It's like, is
Speaker 2: volleyball still in the Olympics. I don't know, and I
Speaker 2: don't care. I care about it less than I do
Speaker 2: ice skating, which is rough, you know, just saying Jamaica
Speaker 2: got a bobsled team. I still didn't give a crap then,
Speaker 2: although the movie was kind of funny, you know, just say,
Speaker 2: it just doesn't move me, but it might move you guys.
Speaker 2: And you know what, get yourself one of those commemorative things,
Speaker 2: because that's pretty cool, I think, you know.
Speaker 6: I even the only thing in this.
Speaker 5: Story they didn't say how much they cost. Now, they
Speaker 5: talked about the you know, the actual curling stones. They're
Speaker 5: about sixteen hundred dollars apiece, and you've got to have
Speaker 5: a set of eight, I think it is to to
Speaker 5: play a match. But they didn't give a price on
Speaker 5: the commemoratives. And I'm going to try to look that
Speaker 5: up sometime. But I thought it was a pretty neat
Speaker 5: idea for recycling something that had actually been used in
Speaker 5: the Olympics, that these people can have a piece of
Speaker 5: and it be worth something someday.
Speaker 2: Right, And I'm very much just on this and I'll
Speaker 2: finish this and get to Danny right away. My baseball
Speaker 2: card thing, which I wanted to start up with Frankie,
Speaker 2: I'm doing that, but on a small scale. And I
Speaker 2: kind of had a happy little moment earlier because I
Speaker 2: opened up a pack that I got well of that
Speaker 2: what Not site for two bucks, right, and it was
Speaker 2: a pack of nineteen ninety upper deck baseball cards. And
Speaker 2: this makes no sense to anybody, probably, but if you
Speaker 2: were ever a sports card collector, I opened this thing
Speaker 2: up and I'm going through it and something looks strange.
Speaker 2: Turns out I had And this is something I've heard
Speaker 2: about people chasing after for years, and they're worth a
Speaker 2: lot of money if they're in good shape. And I
Speaker 2: did open it out of a pack that's been sealed
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety. But you know, the pack was not
Speaker 2: exactly well handled, so it's already not perfect. So I
Speaker 2: don't have a card I can grade or anything like
Speaker 2: that big time, but it might be worth the investment
Speaker 2: because I got one of the randomly inserted rare Reggie
Speaker 2: Jackson autographs, which in nineteen ninety I probably bought two
Speaker 2: hundred packs of those cards. Never even saw one. I
Speaker 2: had friends that collected, I traded with other people, went
Speaker 2: to card shows, and I think I saw one once
Speaker 2: in like nineteen ninety five, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is something that I would have been chasing and
Speaker 2: hoping for out of a baseball card pack years ago.
Speaker 2: And I mean, in its current condition, it's probably worth
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty bucks, which means I could probably
Speaker 2: sell it for seventy five and I might do that,
Speaker 2: but I'm kind of gonna hang on to it for
Speaker 2: a minute. I'm hoping to build up some cards, take
Speaker 2: those to the flea market when I feel better, you know.
Speaker 2: But I actually opened it and I got one of
Speaker 2: the Reggie Jackson autographs, and I went, wow, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I thought that was fun, and that was
Speaker 2: a neat little opening way to get into my baseball
Speaker 2: card collection with Frankie, and hopefully if he joins me, great.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't, I might do it a little bit
Speaker 2: on my own and see if I can wheel and
Speaker 2: deal with the flea market. Once I get my back
Speaker 2: more in order and fix a couple other damages from
Speaker 2: the accident, I'm gonna try and go to the flea
Speaker 2: market and be a baseball card guy at the flea
Speaker 2: market on Saturdays or something. I think that's what I'm
Speaker 2: to start doing, or maybe Sundays. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: I loved when I had friends to collect and trade
Speaker 2: cards with. So I don't know. Maybe it's silly, maybe
Speaker 2: it's stupid, but quite frankly, I kind of enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: And I was really thrilled to pull a Reggie Jackson autograph.
Speaker 2: What can I say? Anyways, maybe Danny'll understand that when
Speaker 2: I put him on the phone and anybody else can
Speaker 2: join us. Three to one nine five two seven five
Speaker 2: zero one six. You got any thoughts on that? Reggie Jackson?
Speaker 2: By the way, as I go to Danny, three one nine, five,
Speaker 2: two seven, fives.
Speaker 3: Are always six.
Speaker 5: That's pretty cool to get something like that out of
Speaker 5: a pool. I just went to the website. These damn
Speaker 5: stones are already sold out. Yeah, everything that the twenty
Speaker 5: twenty six for this year. I guess people that are
Speaker 5: in the sport know that these things are being made
Speaker 5: every Olympics and uh yeah, one commemorative stone was eighty
Speaker 5: nine dollars. They have a set with like Stone Coast
Speaker 5: and some some of the granite cubes that was one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty four dollars that is sold out.
Speaker 6: Now they have replicas that are made but not.
Speaker 5: Made by it from the actual curling stones, but made
Speaker 5: from the granite used form. Those are going for about
Speaker 5: seventy five bucks apiece and they're sold out.
Speaker 6: So these guys are they got.
Speaker 2: A hell of a business going right, right, So I
Speaker 2: might check on something while I bring Danny on the line.
Speaker 2: But I thought that, all right, that would be interesting.
Speaker 2: But I'm just double checking to make sure we're streaming.
Speaker 2: I think we're still streaming. Good three one nine five
Speaker 2: two seven five zero one six And uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess I got Danny from California on the line.
Speaker 8: Right, correct? Correct?
Speaker 2: Cool. I tried to call you a couple of times
Speaker 2: this week off air, but like I missed, are you
Speaker 2: going to be around, like at work tonight or something.
Speaker 8: I'm not working tonight.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll try and call all you when we're done
Speaker 2: with the show. Okay, just no worries wherever we'll chat. Cool,
Speaker 2: So anything you want to bring up, it's all about. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all up to you. Whatever you want to talk about, open, open,
Speaker 2: as usual. Man, whatever you throw on the table, we'll
Speaker 2: work with it.
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, A couple thoughts. I mean, you got a
Speaker 8: Reggie Jackson cart. Congratulations. I remember going today's game. It
Speaker 8: was the first day's game, nineteen sixty eight, and Reggie Jackson,
Speaker 8: he was right field. My father couldn't stand Reggie Jackson
Speaker 8: because he was he says, he's a hot dog. He
Speaker 8: would he would drop a routine fly ball, he would
Speaker 8: strike out twice, and then every now and then he
Speaker 8: would make the most spectacular catch in the field, and
Speaker 8: then you know, he hit a home run, you know,
Speaker 8: a really crucial home run. I mean, he's just he
Speaker 8: just couldn't stand the inconsistent and see he said he
Speaker 8: was dogging it. That's why I dropped the ball or
Speaker 8: struck out.
Speaker 4: But that's cool.
Speaker 8: You got a Reggie Jackson card.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well it's not just the Reggie Jackson but the
Speaker 2: fact is it's hand autographed and they randomly inserted a
Speaker 2: handful of these things back in you know, nineteen ninety,
Speaker 2: you know, and they're not super expensive, I think, but
Speaker 2: because there's a couple of different variations on it. But
Speaker 2: if you get one that's like in pristine condition. I
Speaker 2: think it's it's probably something worth something. I mean, he
Speaker 2: is a Hall of Famer. I didn't like Reggie Jackson
Speaker 2: that much as a kid, but he was a personality
Speaker 2: in the New York area, you know, and he was
Speaker 2: a big person. I mean, he had his own candy bar,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And it's not the pretty one that has
Speaker 2: you know, the cartoon Reggie on it or anything. It's
Speaker 2: a weird one like I don't know, number six or
Speaker 2: something in the set or whatever. And it's just crazy
Speaker 2: because I don't know how much they go for or anything.
Speaker 2: They're probably not that expensive. However, when I go to
Speaker 2: look at a website right now, one of them sold
Speaker 2: for thirty five hundred dollars. But I know I don't
Speaker 2: have that one. I don't think so. Anyways, you know,
Speaker 2: I got a check, but it's like a number nine,
Speaker 2: I guess it is, and I don't think mine is
Speaker 2: number nine, but the one, yeah, it's not that one,
Speaker 2: definitely not. And I think currently it's like eight hundred
Speaker 2: bucks in pristine condition or something grated at nine point five.
Speaker 2: Mine is not graded and mine is one of the
Speaker 2: weird ones that isn't the pretty Reggie Card, like mister
Speaker 2: October card. It's just one of the other sets, which
Speaker 2: is strange. Like I said, I never saw anybody with
Speaker 2: these things, you know, but it was just a wild
Speaker 2: kind of thing, that's all. And I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just found it like a good omen
Speaker 2: for starting up the baseball card collection. Bought a couple
Speaker 2: of cheap packs, you know, and you know, to kind
Speaker 2: of go back to what I used to collect and
Speaker 2: look at that, and bang, I got a card I
Speaker 2: would have never gotten back when I was collecting. So
Speaker 2: I was like, that's kind of cool. I'm hoping Frankie,
Speaker 2: like you know.
Speaker 8: Get congratulations congratulations.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyways, what else is on your mind though, besides
Speaker 2: I mean, because uh yeah, Reggie was one of those
Speaker 2: players though that would piss people off because of exactly
Speaker 2: the stuff your dad was. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, yeah, my father, My father would just
Speaker 8: get he just he would just frustrate him to no end,
Speaker 8: you know. And he had a point because I was
Speaker 8: I was witnessing it from you know, the third base line,
Speaker 8: you know, I witnessed it, you know, make tactic plays
Speaker 8: and just make some bonehead plays, you know. Just it
Speaker 8: was it was. It was hit and miss. So uh yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm no, I'm know listener to you know, I was
Speaker 8: listening to VP talking about right wing right now now
Speaker 8: podcasts they're eating, they're young now, and somebody who started
Speaker 8: out as a young man is a non repentant Reagano.
Speaker 8: I voted for him twice, and I quit the Republican
Speaker 8: Party in nineteen eighty six and have been basically and
Speaker 8: independent and continue to move left for various reasons. So
Speaker 8: my feelings are not hurt because what I've been witnessing
Speaker 8: with the last two Republican presidents, it kind of just
Speaker 8: goes right back to what I was listening to. Larry
Speaker 8: Hancock was talking about the constitution system was sunk, and
Speaker 8: it was sunk in two thousand and one September fourteenth,
Speaker 8: when they voted to give the president the power to
Speaker 8: basically to create his own wars, you know, and the
Speaker 8: Congress has never taken that back. So all those people
Speaker 8: says it's all about the Constitution, which amendment you want?
Speaker 8: A debate that has been broken. I mean, I see
Speaker 8: this just in this year. I've seen the third, the fourth,
Speaker 8: the sixth, eight, the fourteenth, and he should throw in
Speaker 8: the the twenty fifth, the monument's clause, all the money
Speaker 8: he's making. I mean, I've heard everybody conservatives get in
Speaker 8: my face telling me, yeah, Trump is Trump, that he's
Speaker 8: a peace president. He had a great ACCT. No, he
Speaker 8: inherited a great economy. He screwed up the whole. You know,
Speaker 8: I never put any blame with him the global health crisis,
Speaker 8: but you didn't do anything spectacular, I mean, and then
Speaker 8: he left with in chaos. I mean, I if they're
Speaker 8: the podcasters are part of the problem because they're the
Speaker 8: ones that pumped this nonsense. And I'm fine with them,
Speaker 8: you know, tearing themselves apart. I'm curious what they're fighting
Speaker 8: about with each other because I don't listen to them.
Speaker 2: Well, some of them hate Candace Owens just point blank.
Speaker 2: Some of them hate Ben Shapiro just point blank. Okay,
Speaker 2: It's like there is you know, every but he said, oh,
Speaker 2: the Democrats are the only people that you know are
Speaker 2: angry at the Jewish people over there in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: We find out that guess what, that ain't true, you know,
Speaker 2: And this is really erupting where Yeah, there are serious
Speaker 2: I mean, as much as you want to say, there's
Speaker 2: anti Semites on this side, that it is going back
Speaker 2: and forth every kind of like dirty, nasty thing. These
Speaker 2: guys are attacking each other, and to me, it's like, well,
Speaker 2: this is what happens in podcast land. It's got nothing
Speaker 2: to do with the politics. The fact is that after
Speaker 2: a while, okay, and this is what I noticed and
Speaker 2: why I keep bringing this thing up. And I did.
Speaker 2: I'm doing am Wake Up in the mornings on Mondays. Now.
Speaker 2: God helped me because I am not a morning person.
Speaker 2: I did that with Steve over there, and allegedly I'm
Speaker 2: invited to do every Monday I want. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be on there and talking about current events a lot.
Speaker 2: But it is crazy to me to see what's happening
Speaker 2: and to have people say, you know, like you know,
Speaker 2: stick to your guns on this and that, and nobody
Speaker 2: does you know, it is follow the leader on all
Speaker 2: things in all directions, and nobody, absolutely nobody has a code,
Speaker 2: a standard, nothing. And it's not just in the political realm.
Speaker 2: There's something called the dabble verse, which I talked about
Speaker 2: on that show, and I think I might have mentioned
Speaker 2: it on here once or twice, but I mean stuttering
Speaker 2: John basically propagated not on purpose, but created a whole
Speaker 2: universe of podcasters who basically turned around and figured out
Speaker 2: that mocking people doing a bad job doing podcasts is
Speaker 2: a business in and of itself. And it's all named
Speaker 2: after the Dabble Versus, named after a quote from Stuttering
Speaker 2: John where he freaked out on an interviewer who said,
Speaker 2: you dabble in comedy. Oh, I'm a comedian. I gut
Speaker 2: a new stand up gigs. You know all. He's got
Speaker 2: no talent. He was always a crash test dummy for
Speaker 2: stupid people, even on the Howard Stern Show he failed
Speaker 2: upwards to the Tonight Show where he actually got paid.
Speaker 2: But the guy has zero talent, zero self awareness, zero
Speaker 2: social cues, and now he's sixty. So he's a pathetic
Speaker 2: drunk screaming at people that he's going to beat him
Speaker 2: up and suing everybody who comes anywhere near him. That's
Speaker 2: what he does online, and he does a YouTube show
Speaker 2: that he takes down every day after he does it,
Speaker 2: so he can't watch the reruns of it. But these
Speaker 2: people have clipped his show up and now they've made
Speaker 2: like a universe of thirty podcasts around him just to
Speaker 2: mock his dumbass and they're making a living.
Speaker 8: It is.
Speaker 2: They're making a living at this. So they've taken bad
Speaker 2: podcasts and you know, they got a few other people
Speaker 2: they focus on too, but they've taken bad podcasts and
Speaker 2: turned it into entertainment by filtering it through their podcast.
Speaker 2: So they're recycling garbage and reselling it to you packaged,
Speaker 2: and people are paying them handsomely to do so, through
Speaker 2: super chats, through donations, through they're holding conventions for this.
Speaker 2: So I'm amazed at the evolution on of recycled garbage.
Speaker 2: And then I sit and look at what I've done
Speaker 2: with the audio for thirteen years, and I say to myself, damn,
Speaker 2: I missed the boat, you know, because I could have
Speaker 2: just been a YouTube idiot obviously. I mean I would
Speaker 2: poke fun at these people myself personally and like, look
Speaker 2: at how stupid this is and whatever else. But I
Speaker 2: only I never made my show, you know, focus on it,
Speaker 2: and what a mistake I made. I should have been
Speaker 2: doing a YouTube show telling you how terrible these morons
Speaker 2: are that are online doing stuff, because I'd be making
Speaker 2: a sweet living at this point, and I would have,
Speaker 2: you know, the Ocelli conference every year instead of even
Speaker 2: you know, waiting to be invited to something, and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe getting yourself a scrub from the website at Lancer
Speaker 2: and things like that, you know, after working for them
Speaker 2: for free. No, I could have ran my own conferences
Speaker 2: off of nothing. And this is what people want. And
Speaker 2: it's not just them, by the way. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: whole universes of stupid things online and YouTube channels made
Speaker 2: with AI and all kinds of just slop that is
Speaker 2: out there for brain Rod and I could have done
Speaker 2: something intelligent and just used their community building, you know
Speaker 2: process I think, and you know what, I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: asking you people for donations anymore ever, because these guys
Speaker 2: make more money in one night than I see in
Speaker 2: three months. And they broadcast every day like it seems
Speaker 2: like they I mean they might take the weekends off
Speaker 2: or something, but I mean they are on. There is
Speaker 2: a Dabblevers show on three or four times every single day.
Speaker 8: And these guys, why do you think that is? Why
Speaker 8: do people demand that? I mean, maybe something's wrong with me.
Speaker 8: I don't want these stuckidity. I want something intelligent, not
Speaker 8: saying because I need a lot of help with that
Speaker 8: why do people want that? I mean, even on the TV.
Speaker 8: I've never watched an episode of the Kardashians. I know,
Speaker 8: I just look at it once ago. Not for me,
Speaker 8: I'll move on, you know, I mean, why do people
Speaker 8: want that? Do they want that because it makes them
Speaker 8: feel better that somebody else is maybe more messed up
Speaker 8: than their awn miserable lives. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can only harken back to the Honey Booboo effect, where,
Speaker 2: you know, I ever.
Speaker 8: Even seen that, I heard of it. I don't know,
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't know that much except that I
Speaker 8: guess this scalloned up eventually. I heard some controversy or
Speaker 8: her boyfriend was a pet, she's got a.
Speaker 2: Daughter, Yeah, that's the mother of Honey Boo boo who
Speaker 2: you know. Apparently there's all kinds of controversy around it.
Speaker 2: But the point about it that I'm making is that
Speaker 2: this spawned a phenomena where people were turned into the
Speaker 2: TLC channel, which used to be called the Learning Channel,
Speaker 2: to watch here Comes Honey Booboo, which was all about
Speaker 2: an overweight little girl who went to beauty pageants. I'm
Speaker 2: not kidding, uh, and just you know, was completely ignorant
Speaker 2: eating sketties and butter and getting fat and saying I'm
Speaker 2: sassy and I'm pretty child white, trashy, fat little girl
Speaker 2: being exploited for other people, and people were you know
Speaker 2: fixated on this, uh for some years really yeah, and
Speaker 2: like okay, so that happened. But now in podcast land
Speaker 2: there is everything from that to worse. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: easily accessible. And I'm not talking about like you know,
Speaker 2: there's a couple dozen of these. There are thousands of
Speaker 2: podcasts like this that are devoted to nothing thing. You know,
Speaker 2: When I decide to consume a piece of media, it's
Speaker 2: because it is of a particular it has something to
Speaker 2: do with a particular interest of mine. I want to
Speaker 2: be entertained in a particular way, so I search for
Speaker 2: something that is creative and entertaining in some way, whether
Speaker 2: it's comedy or whatever. I look for things that educate
Speaker 2: me a little bit, give me some information, keep me
Speaker 2: up on current events. This is my media tastes. But
Speaker 2: I don't make up the majority of the audience, and
Speaker 2: neither do you. The majority of the audience that is
Speaker 2: accessible willing to support it and everything else. They support
Speaker 2: hack comedians making fun of other people that pathetically believe
Speaker 2: delusionally that they're comedians on these shows. And it's just
Speaker 2: it's amazing to me. These guys aren't that funny, but
Speaker 2: now they're entertaining because they're filtering even worse comedians through
Speaker 2: their shows. And like, there's this one guy who's clearly
Speaker 2: like Auti Stick, who does like, uh, you know, energy
Speaker 2: drink reviews, and he is the weirdest guy, and they
Speaker 2: just sit there and goof on him and and Stuttering
Speaker 2: John is the center of that universe. But there's a
Speaker 2: lot of satellites, and there's other guys on there that are, like,
Speaker 2: you know, making crazy statements and getting thrown in jail
Speaker 2: for revenge porn, and there's controversies between these people. And
Speaker 2: just the other weekend, there was a big story because
Speaker 2: Anthony from the Anthony Opiing Anthony Show showed up at
Speaker 2: a comedy club in New York and literally packed the house,
Speaker 2: telling people he was going to be there for everybody
Speaker 2: to show up and mock stuttering John pathetically doing a performance.
Speaker 2: And what I'm saying is there is an entire industry.
Speaker 2: People flew from all over the country to go squeeze
Speaker 2: themselves into.
Speaker 8: The place Anthony.
Speaker 2: Yeah is that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Okay, I never listened to the Opie and Anthony show,
Speaker 8: and he came up on my Twitter and I had
Speaker 8: to cut it off. I mean, the guy, I didn't
Speaker 8: think he was fun. I think he was a He
Speaker 8: was an outright racist and and I don't call I
Speaker 8: don't say that lightly. He's blatant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what strange is he ends up in this
Speaker 2: dabble verse a little bit. He's at this comedy club
Speaker 2: and literally a guy showed up, a YouTuber showed up
Speaker 2: to call him a racist and a and a and
Speaker 2: a pedo to his face. Yeah, did that confronting him,
Speaker 2: got smacked in the mouth by Anthony Coopy has smacked
Speaker 2: him in the mouth, and the NYC police show up
Speaker 2: and they let Anthony coomie, you go right. Really, what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is this, Yeah, smack him right upside the head.
Speaker 2: You don't believe me? Look it up?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 2: Uh Like I would have gone to jail. I'm sure
Speaker 2: I pulled it, but but they were.
Speaker 8: Like, Andy, I go ahead. I just I just know,
Speaker 8: because I do deliveries in the middle night, I don't
Speaker 8: have too many problems, but you know, I just know
Speaker 8: if somebody's taking stuff. I can't put a hand on
Speaker 8: them because once I put a hand on you know,
Speaker 8: there's cameras around it. It I started its battery.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't even have to you know, I
Speaker 4: know better now.
Speaker 8: If they take a shot at me and I'm defending myself,
Speaker 8: that's something else. You know, they may they may have
Speaker 8: a problem. But yeah, but I'm gonna let it go.
Speaker 2: But as per usual, if the cops want to let
Speaker 2: it go, they will, so they did. Uh you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, but that's only that's a minor incident
Speaker 2: in this whole crazy universe of stuff, And I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: don't get sucked into it. But I'm studying it as
Speaker 2: a phenomena because I'm like, yeah, what am I doing
Speaker 2: wrong that I don't just recycle garbage to people and
Speaker 2: make a living? You know, Like why why okay can
Speaker 2: I speed people good stuff and make a living too?
Speaker 2: Like I want to marry the two things together, you
Speaker 2: know where like makes sense. Not because it's my name
Speaker 2: or anything, but whatever we could call it, you know what,
Speaker 2: we can call the Danny from California universe. I don't care, Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, a universe stuff or yeah, good.
Speaker 8: Come and try them. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah we might, we just might do it.
Speaker 2: But my point is that I would love to be
Speaker 2: able to at least participate in something like that so
Speaker 2: I could make a living and then even as a
Speaker 2: side project, do the stuff that you know nobody wants
Speaker 2: to hear anymore, which is my analysis and things. But anyway,
Speaker 2: we got another call or Danny, but anything else you
Speaker 2: want to get you before? I mean, you can have it. Okay,
Speaker 2: hang on a minute, I'll just make it. Oh crap,
Speaker 2: I put you on mute. Hold on, I'll bring you
Speaker 2: back second, hold on, Sorry, I put you on mute.
Speaker 8: A little the color I was it was interesting that
Speaker 8: just real quick. I was on jury duty for several
Speaker 8: days and when we deliver it. It is very interesting
Speaker 8: to see because we ended up with deadlock. It was
Speaker 8: a hung Jerry, so it's a mistrial. It was interesting
Speaker 8: to see how people fit their thought process. That was
Speaker 8: really interesting to be in with a room with eleven
Speaker 8: other people and just their thoughts. You just just to
Speaker 8: observe their thought process. That was interesting.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, look, I want to hear a lot more.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Dan, I want to hear a lot more
Speaker 2: about that, but let's hang on a minute. We'll get
Speaker 2: to that in a little bit, uh, because I don't
Speaker 2: want to keep Jimmy James waiting any longer. He appears
Speaker 2: to be on the line. Yeah, Jimmy, I got you
Speaker 2: live now and be Pete by the way. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're still choking on polling or whatever,
Speaker 2: but by all means, feel free to step in as well.
Speaker 2: But Jimmy, what's on your mind this week?
Speaker 4: You'll not stay I see you're getting your money from
Speaker 4: the moon that she's.
Speaker 2: I'm getting moon covers? Sure, right, Explain this to me.
Speaker 4: Explain this to me, mister O Kelly. How did our
Speaker 4: spaceships get to the Van Hale and gas Bell?
Speaker 2: Huhuh yeah, yeah, that's a good question considered. I have
Speaker 2: no idea what the hell that is? Uh? You mean,
Speaker 2: but that's the point of this. You know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about, though, Jimmy, right, I mean, when it comes
Speaker 2: to that, I mean, is it just me or you know?
Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong, Jimmy, go ahead.
Speaker 4: I listened earlier. Everything he said was quite astute and correct.
Speaker 4: I mean, I I listened to an ass and stop
Speaker 4: and he had almost one hundred percent. Convince went back
Speaker 4: down to fifty one percent, convinced when he admitted that
Speaker 4: they had a campaign ready to fake it in case
Speaker 4: they didn't make it. Asn't okay. Well now you went
Speaker 4: from ninety nine percent to fifty one percent.
Speaker 2: Well it is remarkable, right when these guys like you know,
Speaker 2: shift their stories, like Ed Haslam. I was on board
Speaker 2: with him until he re released that book and added
Speaker 2: Judy to it. You know, it was like interesting. I
Speaker 2: didn't know a lot of stuff and I needed to
Speaker 2: look into some things, but it was like, that seems interesting.
Speaker 2: That seems like you might have done some work and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe there's something I missed here, you know.
Speaker 2: But now then he's like, oh, but my missing piece
Speaker 2: was Judy Baker. Ugh, you know.
Speaker 8: This what else?
Speaker 4: First off, people don't realize it's even the radiation that
Speaker 4: like kills you. I mean, it's not good for you.
Speaker 4: Plus you're being They orbit the earth to be slung,
Speaker 4: and then they use rockets they're going at amazing speed.
Speaker 4: Plus back in those days they used so much asbestos.
Speaker 4: The bloody sun itself couldn't get through that thing.
Speaker 2: Well, even without the asbestos. You gotta admit that the
Speaker 2: reason why things heat up is because of the conductivity
Speaker 2: of the atmosphere around you. One two that slingshot thing,
Speaker 2: because they go, well, how did they travel sixty five
Speaker 2: thousand miles an hour or whatever? And it's like, well,
Speaker 2: if they could achieve that velocity once, there's not much
Speaker 2: to slow them down. They don't experience the same kind
Speaker 2: of resistance in a vacuum that they would on Earth
Speaker 2: or in another atmosphere. Get it, And they don't get it,
Speaker 2: you know. So the rockets are used to adjust trajectory
Speaker 2: because they're like, well there's not enough fuel. No, because
Speaker 2: you're not using the fuel to go, you're using momentum
Speaker 2: and the lack of resistance. And it's like, these things
Speaker 2: all make sense from a basic physics point of view,
Speaker 2: but they refuse it because Nope, doesn't make sense on Earth.
Speaker 2: Can't possibly make sense outside of our atmosphere. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: does because of our atmosphere, you know, like you can't.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. This is why I would never
Speaker 2: bother to argue with Bart Sibrel. But and Lee comes
Speaker 2: up in my you know, in my stream of things,
Speaker 2: because why he was on Joe Rogan show again, right,
Speaker 2: not long ago, he's on with Rogan going, oh my,
Speaker 2: you don't realize they've just tricked us, all uh, And
Speaker 2: that grif doesn't work if you have a little bit
Speaker 2: of knowledge, like you know, there's no stars in the photographs,
Speaker 2: and yes there is, and they're actually in the correct position.
Speaker 2: You just have to change the contrast on the original
Speaker 2: photograph and you could find them. And nobody would have
Speaker 2: known how to correct those positions if they were faking it.
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm a maniac. Sorry, Jimmy Gouhead.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say. Another one of their old talking
Speaker 4: points is that, hey, what's up with all these lights everywhere?
Speaker 8: In the shadows?
Speaker 4: The shadows you as a brout the moon is movement,
Speaker 4: is the sun shines on it and the illuminates.
Speaker 2: It, right, And Sibrel makes a big deal out the
Speaker 2: way the shadows are cast, like obviously it's for more
Speaker 2: than one light source, and it's.
Speaker 4: Like, wow, not really, Well, the moon's big shiny ball,
Speaker 4: the sun's hitting it. Yeah, that's mouvementous.
Speaker 8: Of course, there's a lot of light, yeah.
Speaker 2: On that side of the moon. But you see the
Speaker 2: the portion facing away not so much. You know, there
Speaker 2: is what they call the dark side of the Moon.
Speaker 2: And like I said, all this stuff starts to make
Speaker 2: sense if you just look apply some you know, common
Speaker 2: scientific you calculate a few things, you take a look at,
Speaker 2: and like I said, some of the common miss you know,
Speaker 2: the the uh, the common misconceptions that the idea of
Speaker 2: the moon landing is built on are based directly in
Speaker 2: these grand stone you know. Like I said, you know,
Speaker 2: Jeffries goes and they never continued to space program after
Speaker 2: they went to the Moon. I'm like, yes, they did,
Speaker 2: and you know they did, and you know how, you know,
Speaker 2: because remember the Mars rover. Remember this, that they continued
Speaker 2: the space program. Your argument, more specifically is they didn't
Speaker 2: return to the Moon with a manned space probe. That's
Speaker 2: your argument, not that they discontinued the space program, because
Speaker 2: they absolutely didn't. They minimized it, they changed it, but
Speaker 2: they no longer required a trip to the Moon because
Speaker 2: guess what they did it. You know, it's just you know,
Speaker 2: and after a while, when the public lost interest, what
Speaker 2: is the public when they lose interest in a gigantic
Speaker 2: spending program in the American public, I don't know. My
Speaker 2: entire history of being alive is no matter who's in
Speaker 2: office is Hey, I don't care about that. Cut it.
Speaker 2: And you know what, I think they did that to
Speaker 2: NASA because nobody was watching the TV shows anymore. When
Speaker 2: they went to the moon the last you know, broadcast allegedly,
Speaker 2: hardly anybody watched it. It wasn't sixty nine anymore. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we've seen this, and that is the nature of things.
Speaker 2: And that gets you cut. You know. It's a great
Speaker 2: idea when it's a great idea, and when it ain't
Speaker 2: no more, it ain't no more. And that's the way
Speaker 2: America works. I'm sorry, but that actually shows our And
Speaker 2: I'm not the guy who likes to defend the government,
Speaker 2: by the way, I don't like that position. But you know,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna say that they fake the moon landing,
Speaker 2: you better come a little better than bart Sebrel. And
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Dave McGowan wrote some interesting stuff, but he's
Speaker 2: just wrong about this, you know. And look, these guys,
Speaker 2: even if they were smart, they see that. That was
Speaker 2: my point is that a smart guy figures out he's
Speaker 2: wrong and then admits it, just like me and b
Speaker 2: Pete were talking about with Weisberg. He would admit some
Speaker 2: things when he found out for sure he was wrong.
Speaker 2: But some of these people, yeah, some of these people.
Speaker 4: Made one made your little stick and he he he
Speaker 4: mentioned it all the time, looked a lovely big deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he never hit it, you know, he never just
Speaker 2: you know, and if somebody presented him with reliable evidence
Speaker 2: to the contrary of one of his base claims, and
Speaker 2: it was reliable evidence that he could go and verify
Speaker 2: for himself. You know. There was minor issues too that
Speaker 2: that other researchers took up with him. You know, they
Speaker 2: went to the house and drank with him and had
Speaker 2: discussions with him and showed him stuff and he went, wow,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Minor adjustments in Weisberg over the years.
Speaker 2: But overall he didn't have a lot of those, because
Speaker 2: guess what, he always had verifiable evidence to back most
Speaker 2: of what he said, you know what I mean, which
Speaker 2: is remarkable.
Speaker 4: That he al is held bad. I mean, he wouldn't
Speaker 4: even say what the obvious snacks conclusion would.
Speaker 2: Be right, right, And that's why to this day. You know, yeah,
Speaker 2: he got a couple of things wrong, I say, but
Speaker 2: reliable for his time, and the only reason why he
Speaker 2: got the love lady thing wrong is because technologically it
Speaker 2: was difficult to make certain things clear given the you know,
Speaker 2: the documentation and the photographs or whatever he had in
Speaker 2: his hands. So you know, you could make mistakes because
Speaker 2: you have incomplete information that happens all the time, and
Speaker 2: you know, but it's not like this where I give
Speaker 2: you verifiable information. You go check it and it's not
Speaker 2: my opinion. It's information that contradicts your grand statement. Here
Speaker 2: it is you look at it. You know, you looked
Speaker 2: at it, and then you come back and just repeat it.
Speaker 2: See that's the thing. Defaulting back to something you learned
Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies isn't gonna help you if new
Speaker 2: information has come about. It's just that simple, you know.
Speaker 4: Okay, you mentioned Mark Lane. I want I want everyone
Speaker 4: on the line. I think is pretty pretty smart. J Cave.
Speaker 4: I think it's a pretty sophisticated crowd. We got Dady,
Speaker 4: we got the Pete, we got the Chuck and Nader. Okay,
Speaker 4: all right, checked out this this crazy idea. Okay, you
Speaker 4: got lawyer Mark Lane. Okay, we remember, remember the famous
Speaker 4: black lady from What's her Name? Jaquiitah Shanine or so
Speaker 4: well Jakita Clemens.
Speaker 2: Oh, Aquila Clemens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, here's my Outlander statement. Knowing how Lane worked,
Speaker 4: and he knowing how really bad it turns out his
Speaker 4: producers and financers work, I'm gonna go ahead and make the.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just tossed this out there. I don't think that
Speaker 4: woman ever existed. I think he went out and hired
Speaker 4: some moment to appear in that film.
Speaker 2: Hmm, what say you? Well, I say that I have
Speaker 2: never gone to any great extent to prove otherwise. I
Speaker 2: have accepted it because I've seen written statements from her,
Speaker 2: and I saw that film, and I have heard of
Speaker 2: other people tracking down other witnesses, and she seemed to
Speaker 2: be as part of that group. So I would say
Speaker 2: to you that I can't definitively say you're wrong.
Speaker 4: Honest right by Mark Lane's on words, he says, all
Speaker 4: we could figure out is she must have been whacked
Speaker 4: because the Warrant commission one could never get a hold
Speaker 4: of her again. Ever, the final family members nothing like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, But what I'm saying is I've seen a little
Speaker 2: bit of verification about her, but not enough to say
Speaker 2: that you're wrong, You could very well be right. So
Speaker 2: what do you think, Bpete.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't put that past Mark Laine, but.
Speaker 5: I think maybe she was legit, well not legit, I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't think she was, you know, just.
Speaker 6: A hired actor. Okay, I wouldn't put it past Mark Blaine.
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing is that when you actually know
Speaker 2: Mark Laane's history, Jimmy James argument is not without merit.
Speaker 2: Because Lane manipulated various witnesses through you know, lawyer style questioning.
Speaker 2: And he did it. Oh, I mean people we know
Speaker 2: were witnesses, you know, Holland and guys like that. He
Speaker 2: definitely worked over some people and did discover some people.
Speaker 2: I'm fairly certain he did at certain points and manipulated
Speaker 2: their statements. Not only that, but you know, listen, I
Speaker 2: would say, on balance, Mark Lane did us you know,
Speaker 2: favors when it came to public awareness regarding the case
Speaker 2: and awareness of some pieces of evidence. But I am
Speaker 2: not certain about his motivations being entirely honorable at all times.
Speaker 2: And I think, let me, it got even stranger when
Speaker 2: the FBI got up in his personal business. But yeah, good,
Speaker 2: all right, let.
Speaker 5: Me ask you this, he was Laine was a communist.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's all there is to it.
Speaker 5: Pretty much write off any communist involvement in the assassination.
Speaker 5: And if you do, then my question doesn't matter. But
Speaker 5: if you don't, was he there to run interference?
Speaker 2: Well see, now here's the thing. He's not a pure communist.
Speaker 2: And the reason why I say that is he had
Speaker 2: to function in the legal framework here and did and
Speaker 2: achieved victories here in the legal framework more than once.
Speaker 2: That would have been counterproductive to communist narratives. Now that
Speaker 2: being said, was he on balance a communist basically? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is that he wasn't pure that way.
Speaker 2: He was also you know, hyper liberal and certainly you know,
Speaker 2: was about people's uh, you know, squatting rights and all kinds.
Speaker 2: There's a whole history to this guy that nobody ever
Speaker 2: wants to you know, and nobody wants to unpack it
Speaker 2: in the JFK research community at all, because even if
Speaker 2: you want to demonize him, you got problems. If you
Speaker 2: want to, you know, make him into some Saint Mark Lane,
Speaker 2: you got problems. So, I mean, you're not gonna this
Speaker 2: is a mixed bag of a human being. But on balance,
Speaker 2: I don't mind you calling him a communist because he
Speaker 2: because he was basically, But on the other hand, when
Speaker 2: it was to his advantage, not so much, you know,
Speaker 2: and witness the weirdness with him, you know, defending Gerald Posner.
Speaker 2: Uh but yeah, going after Howard Hunt, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, just in those two instances, and there's you know,
Speaker 2: obviously the guy had many more cases in his legal
Speaker 2: career than those two. But think about the contradictions there.
Speaker 2: It's not exactly you know, consistent.
Speaker 5: Well when I say yeah, now, when I say communist,
Speaker 5: I'm not saying, you know, he's died in the wool.
Speaker 5: Was he was communist, but he knew how to play
Speaker 5: the capitalist system to his advantage. I mean, he's going
Speaker 5: to he's a lawyer. He knows how to play the game, right,
Speaker 5: And Mark Lane was in it for Mark Lane, just
Speaker 5: like a lot of those guys back then. They were
Speaker 5: in it for themselves, whatever they could get out of it,
Speaker 5: whatever they could do to boost their name and their
Speaker 5: image in the JFK world. But yeah, he was a communist,
Speaker 5: but he was a player and he knew how to
Speaker 5: play the game.
Speaker 6: You got to give him credit for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, obviously, I'm absolutely agreeing with you on this,
Speaker 2: but I would probably set the needles in slightly different places.
Speaker 2: But you and I don't disagree here. Jimmy, what do
Speaker 2: you think about what we just discussed there? Because that's
Speaker 2: how I see Lane and also do not just you know,
Speaker 2: immediately pooh pooh what you're saying. I don't deny that
Speaker 2: what you're saying could be true. I feel like, you know, again,
Speaker 2: here's my opinion. She might have been legitimate, and I
Speaker 2: think she was. But if somebody showed me that she
Speaker 2: was a hired actress, I would not reject it if
Speaker 2: they had proof, because you know, I could believe it.
Speaker 2: I could believe that. I could definitely believe that from Lane.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Uh so what do you?
Speaker 8: What do you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What are your thoughts on that, Jimmy?
Speaker 4: With today's photographic technolomics, that just might be able to
Speaker 4: be arranged. That's old I am ba uh now spurs
Speaker 4: Lane being a communist, he was a new Democrat. I
Speaker 4: think he was a fabe and socialist. He's one of
Speaker 4: these people that tried to, you know, differentiate. He wouldn't
Speaker 4: have said he was a communist. I don't think, for
Speaker 4: one thing, a communist went and chased down a woman
Speaker 4: that was trying to take a million dollars to the
Speaker 4: Soviet embassy down in South America. He chased her down
Speaker 4: before she could get there, took the money and the
Speaker 4: chick and flew to California during the Gunya the People's
Speaker 4: Temple incident there with the Reverend Jim whatever his name was,
Speaker 4: Jim Jones there. But I do believe, well, I know
Speaker 4: for a fact that the KGB contributed too grand to
Speaker 4: the making of that film. I think that he was
Speaker 4: a useful idiot. I don't think he necessarily knew.
Speaker 6: That all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know.
Speaker 4: And yes, I do think he was important. He definitely
Speaker 4: was the first person, the only real significant person to
Speaker 4: be bringing up problems in the whole story, the original story.
Speaker 4: He was pretty much the first guy out. I mean,
Speaker 4: he was so mainstream enough the people kind of had
Speaker 4: to take them somewhat seriously, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to look at what a conservative
Speaker 2: of the time versus Mark Lane looks like it's real easy.
Speaker 2: William F. Buckley did an interview on him on firing
Speaker 2: line where you can watch these two posturing with the
Speaker 2: pipes in their mouths, you know, because that was that's
Speaker 2: the way it was back then. You know, take a
Speaker 2: look at that, and you know, I can't quite call
Speaker 2: I'm a communist. And but useful idiot is an interesting thing.
Speaker 2: A useful idiot does not necessarily have to operate according
Speaker 2: to uh, you know, the Soviet plans.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, in that context, all they have to do
Speaker 2: is be disruptive to the enemy. Right, So he could
Speaker 2: be completely wrong about what he's saying. He could be
Speaker 2: not on the Soviet agenda, but still be useful. And
Speaker 2: this is my point about you know, people not understanding
Speaker 2: modern politics is they don't understand the you know, outside
Speaker 2: of the KGB reference to the useful idiot is I
Speaker 2: feel like we got lots of useful idiots running around,
Speaker 2: and yeah, most of them are completely unaware of how
Speaker 2: they're being utilized. Uh. And look, you take it for
Speaker 2: what you want. I'm not going to sit here and
Speaker 2: make a list, but you know, use your imagination and
Speaker 2: your own skill set, not just Hu Jimmy, I mean everybody.
Speaker 2: The point is that you know, you throw enough fire
Speaker 2: bombs at your enemy, or you let somebody else do it,
Speaker 2: or you support them doing it. You know what, they're
Speaker 2: a little distracted from dealing with you. And why not
Speaker 2: you know, why did the French intelligence agency get involved
Speaker 2: in this afterwards? In the propaganda? Why? You know? So
Speaker 2: on and so there is a whole weird thing going
Speaker 2: on here and useful idiots. Yeah, they're in play, but
Speaker 2: they're not necessarily like you know, okay, we have hired
Speaker 2: you know, KGB agent Mark Lane. Now you don't got
Speaker 2: to do that. All you gotta do is, like you said,
Speaker 2: give them a couple million dollars for his film, you know,
Speaker 2: funnel it to him. This is how people are useful.
Speaker 2: You know, you can just fund them. See I said
Speaker 2: it again, And that's what happens to a lot of people.
Speaker 2: They get funded, they don't question where it came from,
Speaker 2: and they don't realize that there's somebody's useful idiot that
Speaker 2: they would ever even join. But they're doing their work
Speaker 2: for them, so, you know, is lay part of that possibly? Still,
Speaker 2: I find it almost remarkable that you wouldn't call him
Speaker 2: a communist, because hell I would call I wouldn't I
Speaker 2: wouldn't object, you know, he was kind of a communist.
Speaker 2: Was he a pure No? No, not a pure communist?
Speaker 2: And like B. Pete said, also, there's just like the
Speaker 2: lawyer's ethos, if you will, where I don't think they
Speaker 2: have one, and it's just about, you know, how can
Speaker 2: I leverage the ugliest thing in the ugliest way and
Speaker 2: get paid to do it? You know, because it wasn't
Speaker 2: like Mark Lane was living in poverty ever, so you know,
Speaker 2: and he clearly was getting paid as a lawyer. And
Speaker 2: he was also a politician briefly in New York just
Speaker 2: saying and especially during the time period he was just saying,
Speaker 2: you did I say useful idiot? Yet? Yeah? I did? Okay,
Speaker 2: so you know, But that being said, yeah, he also
Speaker 2: made public pronunciations, got people aware, did radio shows and
Speaker 2: television interviews, and appeared anywhere that they would listen to him,
Speaker 2: did tours with people like Jim Garrison. And was that
Speaker 2: all to distract from something larger? Maybe? Was he aware
Speaker 2: of that? Maybe not? But useful nonetheless, And was he
Speaker 2: a communist kinda? Was he useful to communists? Probably? You know,
Speaker 2: But here we go, it's a mixed bag. And like
Speaker 2: I said, if you just witness defending Gerald Posner, defending
Speaker 2: and going after E. Howard Hunt. It's a weird mix
Speaker 2: of anything, except I'm kind of not really with the
Speaker 2: whole good government USA kind of thing that we still
Speaker 2: had in the sixties. That's the only consistency I see
Speaker 2: with him is like government can't be trusted, which I
Speaker 2: don't object to again, but maybe not for the same
Speaker 2: reasons he was after it, you know. So it's it's
Speaker 2: a you know, not everything is black and white in
Speaker 2: other words, although that film was that he did, so
Speaker 2: it's another weird choice I thought. Anyways, So Jimmy, how
Speaker 2: does that answer everything for you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Danny, is Danny gonna give an opinion?
Speaker 2: Hmm. I'll definitely let Danny give an opinion. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know. Usually he uh kinda says, oh, I don't
Speaker 2: have much of an opinion on the JFK stuff usually,
Speaker 2: but let's see, maybe Dany'll have something different to say. Danny,
Speaker 2: So you're on with everybody, and I wonder if you
Speaker 2: have an a you about what we were just discussing.
Speaker 2: I know you usually say like, I'm not a JFK
Speaker 2: guy or whatever, but you might be aware of Mark Lad.
Speaker 2: You might have an opinion. Good.
Speaker 8: I'm like more like, I'm probably not the deep researcher
Speaker 8: that you gentlemen are, but I have always been, let's say,
Speaker 8: j K curious in a lot of ways. I mean,
Speaker 8: I read Mark Lane's book was Ith and the one
Speaker 8: was plausible deniability about putting.
Speaker 2: Plausible on trial. Yeah, plausible denial of a later book.
Speaker 8: And plausible deniability.
Speaker 2: Plausible denial is the rush to judge judgment.
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, I mean I read both the books Mark Lane.
Speaker 8: I know he was. He was a liberal. I knew
Speaker 8: him as just as a liberal Democrat. He was now
Speaker 8: in the northern California, in the San Francisco Berkeley area,
Speaker 8: there is a particular very left wing radio station, and
Speaker 8: he was I remember hearing him years ago on there
Speaker 8: talking about the JFK assassination. Also had David Emery and
Speaker 8: May Brussel. I did find May Brussel far more interesting.
Speaker 8: I don't know much. I mean, I seen Mark Lane
Speaker 8: on some interviews a long time, but I don't have like,
Speaker 8: I couldn't tell you any more Mark Lane than that,
Speaker 8: you know, just that I read the books. I thought
Speaker 8: they were interesting. I mean, you would know more where
Speaker 8: there beholds in it that I would as I usually found out.
Speaker 8: So I mean I'm willing to stand corrected if I
Speaker 8: developed an opinion on jfk H. So that's pretty much
Speaker 8: there that. I do find that what Jimmy said was
Speaker 8: interesting about Running for Cover because there was I know,
Speaker 8: reading on Lyndon Johnson, he was very much concerned that
Speaker 8: it was I guess they're connected to so begunion because
Speaker 8: it's fear, you know, that would deny World War three.
Speaker 8: I mean, there was paranoid there, and then there's been
Speaker 8: a lot of documentation that the Soviet Union was they're
Speaker 8: really afraid that there was going to be you know,
Speaker 8: that they were gonna get mombed and blaye for the
Speaker 8: jfk assassination. I mean, I mean that's about about it.
Speaker 8: I mean, other than that the film. Sure, I mean,
Speaker 8: somebody can funnel money and you don't even know who
Speaker 8: it's coming from. I know, it wasn't just a year
Speaker 8: or two that a whole bunch of right wing podcasters
Speaker 8: ended up getting a lot of money from some Russian
Speaker 8: oligarchs and they didn't they claimed they were didn't know
Speaker 8: where it came from. But I do believe that they
Speaker 8: took money. Somebody throws your money. I mean, everybody's got
Speaker 8: a price. Somebody throws enough money, well, you know I'll
Speaker 8: take it, you know, and you know, some more than others.
Speaker 8: Someone you know, they can be bought up for a
Speaker 8: couple of bucks, other a couple of hundred thousands. Some
Speaker 8: may take a lot more than that. You know, that
Speaker 8: makes sense.
Speaker 2: No, I got it.
Speaker 8: It's just that's that's that's my opinion. I mean, I don't, Okay,
Speaker 8: the deeper I'm not. I'm just trying to recall the
Speaker 8: lady you're talking about the film as an actress. I'm
Speaker 8: I'm not aware, So I can't really offer any opinion
Speaker 8: on that.
Speaker 2: Akila Clemens sticks out in the movie. Yeah, Aquila Clemens
Speaker 2: sticks out in the movie you know, Rush to Judgment
Speaker 2: in that she is probably one of the only heavy
Speaker 2: set black women to appear on screen. So if you
Speaker 2: were looking for a visual reference, that's who.
Speaker 8: Vaguely, vaguely, I can't remember if my song. I remember
Speaker 8: reading the books, and it's just maybe my memory is
Speaker 8: bad on it, but it's just not it's not coming
Speaker 8: up to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no problem, But you you could find Rush
Speaker 2: to Judgment for free on YouTube if you wanted to,
Speaker 2: and probably you know, like fast forward through and find
Speaker 2: the Black Lady, you know, talking about the murder of JD. Tippitt.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying if you ever want to revisit it.
Speaker 2: But also Lane put out a third book on the
Speaker 2: assassination that was authored by him, called The Last Word.
Speaker 2: He co authored several other pieces on the assassination that
Speaker 2: at one point there was a record release of his
Speaker 2: testimony to the like, you know, an actual vinyl record
Speaker 2: released of his testimony to the Warrant Commission. You know,
Speaker 2: the guy did a few media releases, but over the years,
Speaker 2: The Last Word he put out like a couple of
Speaker 2: years before he died. So I'm thinking about it, twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, I don't know, you got to check. Maybe
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, I forget, but somewhere in there
Speaker 2: that was the last book and it didn't get the
Speaker 2: attention the older ones did, you know. But Laine is
Speaker 2: an interesting character because his motives are questionable. The Soviets
Speaker 2: had a reason for being worried that we were going
Speaker 2: to blame them because a recent defector to the Soviet
Speaker 2: Union attempted defector returned, turns to America and shoots the president.
Speaker 2: According to the official story, So yeah, the Soviets, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get work, you know. Oh immediately they sent him
Speaker 2: back to kill our president, you know which, No, but
Speaker 2: people want to say that. And they did a whole
Speaker 2: History Channel thing about, you know, chasing down the USSR
Speaker 2: connection to Lee Harvey Oswald and a former some ridiculous
Speaker 2: fool who used to run something in the government. I
Speaker 2: forget headed this, you know, whole investigation chasing down Oswald's
Speaker 2: connections to Russia. I can't remember the name of it,
Speaker 2: dear God. But it was so bad, like I could
Speaker 2: sit here and take apart every episode and probably spend
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks making podcasts about it if I
Speaker 2: wanted to. But nobody wants to hear that. But it's terrible,
Speaker 2: it really is anyway, Yeah, no, I know nobody wants
Speaker 2: to hear it. This is the thing. Nobody's really interested in,
Speaker 2: my analysis. That's why I enjoyed that thing with Larry
Speaker 2: the other night, because it was like, you know, you
Speaker 2: go ahead and say your way, Larry, I want to
Speaker 2: hear this. And that was not rehearsed or anything. But
Speaker 2: if you notice it was like two of us saying
Speaker 2: the same thing slightly different ways. And I'm sitting there
Speaker 2: going I don't understand this, and he goes, yeah, neither
Speaker 2: do I. You know, basically is the way I read
Speaker 2: that conversation where you know, we're looking at the foreign
Speaker 2: policy behavior currently and going, yeah, this doesn't make sense
Speaker 2: according to past behaviors. So and you even heard me
Speaker 2: like almost go God help me. Maybe you know, look
Speaker 2: this this administration, if they accomplish something that others have not,
Speaker 2: I will you know, accept that as this is apparently
Speaker 2: the new way to do things. And I already got
Speaker 2: an angry email about it where I'm like, who you're
Speaker 2: supporting Trump? I'm like, no, what I'm doing is objective analysis,
Speaker 2: you freaking moron. But uh yeah, I'm probably listening tonight too,
Speaker 2: So hello, anyways, So anything you want to add on that, Danny?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, they were kind of lit pointed out
Speaker 8: I's just insane to me, but no, that that's I mean,
Speaker 8: I I've read a lot. I mean, I've read my
Speaker 8: fair share of JFK books. But I'm I am in
Speaker 8: no way going to claim to be an expert, you know,
Speaker 8: because I've got things wrong. You changed you know, you
Speaker 8: you spelt some things out to me that's like, oh
Speaker 8: that wasn't quite actual factual And yeah, so I'm JFK
Speaker 8: and I'll know my line. Yeah, just I was on jury.
Speaker 8: Did he was just interesting how people think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so.
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Speaker 2: Here is I'm gonna take take us into a break
Speaker 2: real quick, and I'm gonna put both of you guys
Speaker 2: on hold. Be pete. I think we'll take a quick
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Speaker 2: sent me a message no no shows, so we can
Speaker 2: go a little over. But I'm only planning to go
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Speaker 1: Liking yeah now must aggraatednoise, A medio? Yeah, oh, Kelly,
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Speaker 2: Hey, Here we are, second segment of the Live Friday
Speaker 2: Night call in show B Pete. Are you with me? Brother?
Speaker 2: I don't know. For some reason, I'm not hearing B Pete.
Speaker 2: But uh I will check and see if I can
Speaker 2: hear phone calls. Maybe there's a problem on my end.
Speaker 2: We'll see. Uh. I'll open it back up to Jimmy
Speaker 2: James first. But if you join in three one nine,
Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six, and you're hearing
Speaker 2: this live at about nine forty four pm or forty
Speaker 2: five pm Eastern time on the sixth day of March
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, you know what we're live at the moment.
Speaker 2: You can join in three one nine, five, two seven,
Speaker 2: five zero one six, and if not, I will happily
Speaker 2: bounce back and forth between Jimmy, James, Danny from California
Speaker 2: and hopefully be Pete. So, uh, you know, let's do this. Uh, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: you're still with me?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: Uh? Oh? Why am I not hearing anybody? Oh? Seriously,
Speaker 2: Danny are you there? Oh, Danny's here? Okay? Good?
Speaker 8: Here?
Speaker 2: Then then that means I'm partially connected.
Speaker 8: Good, okay, Yeah, you're partially connected. I ran downstairs, grabbed
Speaker 8: a beer and got a piece of pizza and uh,
Speaker 8: probably not as good as what you have in New Jersey,
Speaker 8: but he'll do m h m hmm.
Speaker 2: Well it's been a long time since I had a
Speaker 2: piece of Jersey pizza. But man, oh man, do I
Speaker 2: miss it. I bet it's better than what I got
Speaker 2: here in Georgia, though, brother, that's for sure. Oh jeez,
Speaker 2: what's going on? Okay? Hopefully I don't know. I got
Speaker 2: some connective issues. Yeah, there's Dandy coming in and out
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, wow, Okay, I don't know what happened there,
Speaker 2: but here we go again. Are you with me, Denny?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 8: Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Off and on. I'm hearing you, but it's getting weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening here.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not sure either.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I can talk to you for a minute. If
Speaker 2: you can hear me, I can hear you. We can talk.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can hear you, just fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's I don't know there was some kind of
Speaker 2: disruption there, but I hear you. Now. I was telling
Speaker 2: you I wish I had a piece of pizza from Jersey.
Speaker 2: But I guarantee what they got in California is better
Speaker 2: than what we got in Georgia. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you caught that part, but I guarantee it.
Speaker 8: Well, there's some good pizza here. I mean, the one
Speaker 8: of the best pizzas I ever had. And it was
Speaker 8: in California and they were from New York and I went.
Speaker 4: Told me.
Speaker 8: They were Staten Island. They said this, I was. I
Speaker 8: would gently go to dinner there and I would get
Speaker 8: at pizza to take with me to their house so
Speaker 8: I could snack on it later. It was delicious, Oh,
Speaker 8: really delicious.
Speaker 2: No, a guy from Staten Island knows how to make pizza,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. But it it's just weird. I tell
Speaker 2: you we don't have that. Yeah, you're good.
Speaker 8: Yeah. And then there there was one that was my
Speaker 8: uh dad's my father's best friend. Father had a had
Speaker 8: a had a restaurant bar and downtown sacramentum and and
Speaker 8: then he opened up us to this day, I mean
Speaker 8: it's closed down a long time. That was the best
Speaker 8: pizza I ever ate. I mean it was. It was
Speaker 8: tied with this one in southern California. It was quite good,
Speaker 8: quite good.
Speaker 2: Cool. So b Pete, are you with us? See? I
Speaker 2: still see him on the jitsu, but I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm not hearing him. Uh anyway, I hope he's still there.
Speaker 2: Let's see. Jimmy. Yeah, Jimmy, I'm opening up your line again.
Speaker 2: Are you there?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 2: Ah, okay, great, all right, so we're connected. We're connected
Speaker 2: at least.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: How is the pizza in uh in Michigan anyway? I
Speaker 2: don't think I ever asked you.
Speaker 4: Oh it's good, just gone where to go?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay. So it's like a normal state where you
Speaker 2: got some good, some bad, you know, it's yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: but I'm telling you down south is horrible. It's just
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had pizza in Ohio. I've been happy.
Speaker 2: I had pizza in I think I had pizza in
Speaker 2: California when I went to California. Yeah, I did, and
Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't awful. It was okay. It was
Speaker 2: like you know, but you go down South and it's
Speaker 2: like another planet. Like they they you know, they've seen
Speaker 2: pizza on TV, but they've never actually had it.
Speaker 8: Something like, yeah, I gotta I gotta interrupt you here,
Speaker 8: chuck about pizza. I just remembered I was in Vegas.
Speaker 8: I took my wife to go see Andre for Shelley, okay,
Speaker 8: and it was in Vegas and it was at the
Speaker 8: Area and they had this this brick even pizza and
Speaker 8: there was a line for it, just for to get
Speaker 8: a slice. And after I had that site and I
Speaker 8: had to get back in line that that pizza was amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 8: it was a brick of the Area hotel. But you know,
Speaker 8: Vegas they get really. I mean, it's right, everything, the
Speaker 8: ingredients are great. I mean the food doesn't suck there,
Speaker 8: if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense because they import everything,
Speaker 2: so if it's going to come from far away, you
Speaker 2: might as well get the best you can and you
Speaker 2: can overcharge for it in a lot of places, you know,
Speaker 2: while they keep building the city in the sand. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it makes sense they would get good stuff in there.
Speaker 2: I've heard people rave about the steaks in Vegas and
Speaker 2: all kinds of things, which is hilarious to me. Oh yeah.
Speaker 8: There too. I was at the Mandoli Bay with my
Speaker 8: son and he took me to a state place and
Speaker 8: it was good every time. I mean, I'm not saying
Speaker 8: it's underpriced, because it's not. It's overpriced, but you're gonna
Speaker 8: get overpriced. You're not getting crap. So that does that
Speaker 8: make sense? It's like you can kind of it hurts
Speaker 8: the wall a little bit, you're you're pretty happy with
Speaker 8: the meal. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, now, when I was in Dallas right now, this
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with any ethnic food I'm connected
Speaker 2: to or stuff I'm even used to. But we went
Speaker 2: to a taco place and well it wasn't a taco place,
Speaker 2: it was a Mexican food place, and we got taught.
Speaker 2: I got tacos and they were awful, and I mean awful,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, why do I just paid thirty dollars
Speaker 2: for awful tacos?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 2: And I'm like in Dallas, and so I was pissed.
Speaker 2: Now if those tacos were really good, and I mean
Speaker 2: I only got like three tacos and like a little
Speaker 2: I forget what the other dish was, but like some
Speaker 2: other small dish to go and thirty bucks before the tip,
Speaker 2: right yeah, and I'm like, wow, okay, well I'm in Dallas,
Speaker 2: so it's a city and whatever. And I figured, well,
Speaker 2: the food must be good even though it's small and
Speaker 2: ugly looking. I tried it and it was absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2: You know, if I'm gonna get ripped off for thirty
Speaker 2: dollars for three tacos and a side dish, at least
Speaker 2: make it good, you know. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8: Oh, and now here in California, Mexican food is amazing,
Speaker 8: and some even just the street the street tacos with
Speaker 8: the carnea sada is amazing. And I grew up in
Speaker 8: the Pinon where it was Missus Panopals, Missus Riviera, and
Speaker 8: this is Ballardi and it was in the among the
Speaker 8: whole and I can't match even with the producers in
Speaker 8: the restaurant. Just the beans and rice and tortillas alone
Speaker 8: are delicious.
Speaker 2: Right. No, that's the thing is I've had, you know,
Speaker 2: I've known lots of people from when I lived. I
Speaker 2: lived in California for a couple of months, and I
Speaker 2: know you're not going to believe me when I tell you,
Speaker 2: but I didn't have any Mexican food while I was there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, you missed out. Well, it's good there in La.
Speaker 2: Yeah see. And I was in La, in and around LA,
Speaker 2: but I was so focused on, you know, being a
Speaker 2: rock star or trying to be a rock star, that
Speaker 2: I never got anywhere near good food, you know, because
Speaker 2: I was broke obviously, and you know, living in a
Speaker 2: house with ten guys or whatever, trying to get things rolling,
Speaker 2: and I never got I ate pizza in California, but
Speaker 2: not Mexican food, which is bizarre. But it's just the opportunities.
Speaker 8: That get you missed out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But every time I've seen somebody or met somebody
Speaker 2: from California, they grew up there, or they spent a
Speaker 2: couple of years there or whatever else, I never hear like, Na,
Speaker 2: Mexican food is not good. That you'll never hear that
Speaker 2: from somebody from California. You know. It's kind of like,
Speaker 2: you know, the pizza, the pizza and Jersey to me
Speaker 2: is the Mexican food in California to them, you know where,
Speaker 2: it's like, it's only really good there exactly.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 8: My wife, she's she's originally from Texas. She was born
Speaker 8: and raised in Texas, right, and she's been out here
Speaker 8: forever and she's gone back and had Mexican food in
Speaker 8: certain parts of Texas. And what she goes, Oh, I'm
Speaker 8: so glad to be that called me Mexican food here
Speaker 8: in California. And there's there's different varieties depending on what
Speaker 8: states are. But we've just been blessed with amazing food
Speaker 8: out here from from the Mexican Committee. They're just now
Speaker 8: I'm just lucky.
Speaker 2: Now. I gotta say, I never experienced taco or any
Speaker 2: Mexican food like what I had in El Paso. It
Speaker 2: was good, but it was that would.
Speaker 8: Make sense, That would make sense because it's right near
Speaker 8: the border. You're getting more than authentic, right.
Speaker 2: It was different than anything. You know, if you're expecting
Speaker 2: Taco Bell and you walk into one of their places,
Speaker 2: you're wrong. No, yeah, but the thing is, even the
Speaker 2: stuff I didn't know what it was was real good,
Speaker 2: like the beans like you were saying, beans and rice.
Speaker 2: Damn good. I mean just amazing stuff from that place.
Speaker 8: Animal the way they do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of flavor, I mean like lots of flavor
Speaker 2: and not killing me with spice, you know like some
Speaker 2: places do, like really good. And I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is the like if I had Mexican food like
Speaker 2: this around me every day, I'm not sure if I
Speaker 2: could eat anything else. You know, it was that good.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Uh, it's just you know, it's just wild man.
Speaker 2: Like anyhow, I was just curious though, I mean, oh,
Speaker 2: there's a good question, Jimmy, how is Mexican food in
Speaker 2: uh In, in your neck of the woods though, because
Speaker 2: I have never heard anybody talk about Mexican food in Michigan.
Speaker 2: Is there Mexican food in Michigan? Seriously, I haven't spent
Speaker 2: enough time there to know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's a crap blow of Mexicans.
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't know, Like I said, listen, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you when I don't know something. So anyway, but it's
Speaker 2: good stuff.
Speaker 4: Well I didn't say that.
Speaker 8: The gut trutch is always good to be oh, Okay.
Speaker 8: The restaurants and my uh yeah, probably like the street
Speaker 8: tacos that they make in the in the food trucks. Yeah,
Speaker 8: they can be really good. Yeah, there's some. There's one
Speaker 8: between where I work in my home and I'll get
Speaker 8: them for my wife. She loves she loves the street.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that the strangest thing I
Speaker 2: ever saw made least sense in the world ever, and
Speaker 2: still it was successful. For a couple of years. There
Speaker 2: was this like combo ethnic foods place in Jersey City
Speaker 2: and I don't even know the name of it because
Speaker 2: I was so screwed up from the fact that there
Speaker 2: was like black people making pizza. Okay, I know that
Speaker 2: sounds racist, but hold on, there was like black people
Speaker 2: making pizza, Koreans making Mexican food. Okay, Mexicans making Chinese food.
Speaker 2: And this is the way this place was organized. And
Speaker 2: there was some other ethnic food there and I can't
Speaker 2: remember what it was. And it was like a two
Speaker 2: faced multi ethnic fast food joined and you go in
Speaker 2: there and it's got these you know, four counters arranged
Speaker 2: around the place or four kitchens arranged around it somehow,
Speaker 2: and they were producing but like the wrong It was like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, you Koreans need to go make the
Speaker 2: Chinese food. You know what I mean, maybe let the
Speaker 2: black people make uh. I mean, oh, that's what the
Speaker 2: other thing was. It was like and the white people
Speaker 2: were making ribs. Okay, that's what it was now I remember,
Speaker 2: and I'm.
Speaker 8: Like, yeah, those are called fusion restaurants, that they fused
Speaker 8: the cultures and the food together.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the funny thing is every culture is like
Speaker 2: shuffled into the wrong slot. Like if you're thinking like these,
Speaker 2: like I was cracking up. The pizza wasn't horrible, you know,
Speaker 2: I had a slice. I was like, I gotta try this.
Speaker 8: Because well, you know, speaking of that, I was like
Speaker 8: gin Choi. He's a famous he kind of started the
Speaker 8: food truck moving in La got big, and he has
Speaker 8: a restaurant in Vegas and I went and I ordered
Speaker 8: the man those kind of pricey. Those Korean tacos were
Speaker 8: kind of pricey. Oh that was a whole experience. They're
Speaker 8: really good and just right around the corner from my
Speaker 8: lip Fusion Taco place. It's a really authentic brea taco
Speaker 8: place by my house. And it's good. It's a little
Speaker 8: it's different, different styles, but both are exceptional.
Speaker 2: See that's the thing I'm not saying. It won't work,
Speaker 2: but it takes you a minute to go wait a minute.
Speaker 8: The Korean talkers. The Korean takers from Roy Troy's at
Speaker 8: best friend's place. Man, I'm telling you, I like, where
Speaker 8: is this. If I go back to Vegas, I'm going
Speaker 8: there again. That was great cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Jersey and New York. I think should have
Speaker 2: emerged with that kind of stuff first, but it didn't.
Speaker 2: I think it actually originated on the West Coast. But
Speaker 2: it's really weird because like the first time I saw
Speaker 2: it was probably in the nineties, and like I was
Speaker 2: shocked when a white girl showed up to deliver my
Speaker 2: Chinese food. And you know, nowadays anybody can deliver anything.
Speaker 2: But I was like, like this girl standing on my stoopid.
Speaker 2: I come out and I go, excuse me, how can
Speaker 2: I help you? And she's like, I'm here to bring
Speaker 2: your food, and I'm like, you're bringing my food now.
Speaker 2: The guy I spoke to you on the phone was
Speaker 2: definitely not a white girl, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it was, you know, it was clearly like I
Speaker 2: don't even want to do the accent. Well I kind
Speaker 2: of do, but I'm not gonna. But he was one
Speaker 2: of those Chinese guys who like, yeah, let me just
Speaker 2: put it to you this way, Danny. He was one
Speaker 2: of these Chinese guys who goes, hey, buddy, how you doing,
Speaker 2: buddy when he knows you, and like, I don't know
Speaker 2: if you've ever seen that before, but they're hilarious because
Speaker 2: you know, these guys were Yeah, I mean, but that's
Speaker 2: who I expected to deliver my food or their son,
Speaker 2: you know, like and meanwhile, it's like some girl probably
Speaker 2: named Tara showed up with blonde hair streaks and I'm like, uh, hello,
Speaker 2: who are you. Meanwhile, they were having them in there,
Speaker 2: and they were cooking like other stuff in the restaurants too,
Speaker 2: Like Chinese food places in Jersey have like, you know,
Speaker 2: cheeseburgers and fries and stuff like that, which apparently they
Speaker 2: don't have everywhere. But to me, that was like normal.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but to me, that was normal except the
Speaker 2: Chinese guy major cheeseburger, you know what I mean. Was
Speaker 2: always ethnically Chinese people, but then it got weird when
Speaker 2: they put white people in there, and they started putting
Speaker 2: white people food in pretty much, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: like common American basic cuisine. Uh and oh god, I
Speaker 2: sound like a horrible racist, don't I uh, I can't
Speaker 2: help what I knew.
Speaker 8: I get well, and there is a food fusion movement
Speaker 8: where they're you know, kind of mixing right foods. But
Speaker 8: I get what you're saying. You kind of like I
Speaker 8: call into this one Chinese place and I'm kind of like,
Speaker 8: I hope she got my order right because it didn't
Speaker 8: sound sure enough. It's all story, you know, yeah, it's
Speaker 8: just they hear. They understand me. Fine, I mean, I'm
Speaker 8: the one half and the problem not that you.
Speaker 2: Know, right. I mean, hilariously though, my favorite place and
Speaker 2: the one I probably ordered from the most because I
Speaker 2: used to order food for guys at work and then
Speaker 2: myself at work and everything else. And then I lived
Speaker 2: in the same town, so I would get food from
Speaker 2: the same place when I was at home. It was
Speaker 2: really great. But the thing is, after a while, the
Speaker 2: little kid that used to be running around the place
Speaker 2: playing with his toys had to go to work. You know,
Speaker 2: he's part of the family business, right, And you know,
Speaker 2: I always knew when he was when he was answering
Speaker 2: the phone because you know, they would rush through China kitchen, right,
Speaker 2: and like you know, so it was China Kitchen or
Speaker 2: Grand Panda or what they all had different names. But right, okay,
Speaker 2: But the thing is he'd rush through that and then
Speaker 2: I'd say something like, oh do you have this? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 2: if I paused for like more than two seconds, what
Speaker 2: do you want? What do you want?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That's the kid. That's the kid that's not the guy
Speaker 2: who's going and Bunny, how you doing?
Speaker 8: Bunny?
Speaker 2: You can never remember my name because everybody's buddy, every
Speaker 2: white guy's buddy.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: And but but the kid, he knew my name, but
Speaker 2: he didn't like me, and he was pissed they had
Speaker 2: to work there. What do you want? What do you need? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like that attitude on this kid who's like, you know, thirteen,
Speaker 2: but you saw him as an eight year old around
Speaker 2: and meanwhile you're like, I hope that kid got my
Speaker 2: order right, and just did you just you know, pee?
Speaker 2: And my freaking wanton so God help me. I mean,
Speaker 2: he was angry, you know, it was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I want to order when the kid's there,
Speaker 2: Just what do you want? Pissed?
Speaker 8: Yeah, But but the food was so good that his
Speaker 8: name was Aftar. He was he came from India, and
Speaker 8: he was at the gas station. He brought in so
Speaker 8: many customers because he was just everybody was his best friend.
Speaker 4: Everybody was his best friend.
Speaker 2: Well right, those guys are even better in a bad neighborhood,
Speaker 2: by the way, because they adapt, They adapt and after
Speaker 2: a while. Which is funny because Teo on that AM
Speaker 2: Wake Up show gave me a new name that I
Speaker 2: don't want to say out loud. I got christened with
Speaker 2: a new title. I'll put it to you this way.
Speaker 2: I am apparently not, you know, because I'm like tal
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm not white. Just just just want
Speaker 2: to get that straight, because it was a racial thing.
Speaker 2: She was. She's a black girl, and she she's like,
Speaker 2: you know, ask me a question. I told her what
Speaker 2: my ethnic background is, and she said, hold up, you're
Speaker 2: really not white. I said, I know, but I can't
Speaker 2: keep it. I can't explain it to these people. And
Speaker 2: she goes, no, I never thought this was possible. I
Speaker 2: just met me a double Negro. Now that's not the
Speaker 2: way she said it.
Speaker 8: I get it. I get it. Yeah, she can get
Speaker 8: away with it. I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I went, damn, you know what's funny about that?
Speaker 2: I am so thrilled you just said, yes, that's I
Speaker 2: live in a thank you, Yes exactly, And a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't understand and think I'm nuts, but I
Speaker 2: thought it was great anyway. Why did I bring that up? Oh,
Speaker 2: because these Indian guys, you know, because these Indian guys
Speaker 2: in bad neighborhoods, if there's a lot of blacks, they
Speaker 2: will blend in like they're one of the black guys.
Speaker 2: Like like in the nineties they were like listening to
Speaker 2: Jay Z and all that, like, you know, they were
Speaker 2: like listening to rap, sagging their pants on their days off. Everything,
Speaker 2: they blended into that neighborhood and they became you know,
Speaker 2: they got away with that word in that neighborhood. Like
Speaker 2: it would have been like a riot. If I would
Speaker 2: have gotten in a fight with a customer and called
Speaker 2: them the N word, they would have burned the place down.
Speaker 2: But this guy could do it. This guy could do it,
Speaker 2: and the guy would look at him and laugh and
Speaker 2: be like, nah, that's I. And they would every once
Speaker 2: in a while catch me with a shocked look on
Speaker 2: my face, like this guy just called this guy to
Speaker 2: N word to his face. I know the guy's a gangster.
Speaker 2: I know, he's got two guns on him. I can
Speaker 2: see one of them, okay, And this guy just got
Speaker 2: away with it, no problem. He ain't even gonna shoot
Speaker 2: this convenience store clerk. Uh, he's not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: But if I was there and I said that, I'm
Speaker 2: a dead man. So I was like, wow, I realize
Speaker 2: those guys will blend with everybody, like that's what they'll
Speaker 2: try to do usually. And I knew a guy named
Speaker 2: Octur as well. Well, yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 8: This was great. Everybody. Everybody loved him. He was he
Speaker 8: brought in customers, they would they just he was just
Speaker 8: everybody's friend. He was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Right, I still have his number. He way and started
Speaker 8: a business. I called him on swhile. He's now married
Speaker 8: and got a couple of kids, and he's always every
Speaker 8: now and then I'll call him up, but he's this
Speaker 8: happened You thought you last about the whole family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because those guys legitimately get happy to socialize so freely,
Speaker 2: you know, and because often they came from backgrounds where
Speaker 2: they get sent over here. You got to send all
Speaker 2: the money back home to the family for a little while, yep.
Speaker 2: And then after that they cut loose. They save up
Speaker 2: their money and they go buy something and run it.
Speaker 2: Like you said, this guy probably has more than one business.
Speaker 2: The guy, you know, because he's motivated. You know. That's
Speaker 2: why I never understood when people were like hayful with
Speaker 2: those guys, Like I realized nine to eleven changed it
Speaker 2: for a lot of them because you know, they just
Speaker 2: saw that tone of skin and freaked out a lot
Speaker 2: of people. But right, the truth was these guys were
Speaker 2: better Americans than most Americans in most cases. Not you know, no,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent on it. But I'm just saying, like again,
Speaker 2: on balance, they were like, if you want to teach
Speaker 2: somebody a work ethic, that's the man to go see.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: There was a lot of Sikhs and their seats from
Speaker 8: fun Job India, right, and they they I remember nine
Speaker 8: to eleven they just had science. We're not you know,
Speaker 8: they were trying to because they were having actually they
Speaker 8: were getting it. There was like, hey, they were getting
Speaker 8: attacked and they were they were just outstanding. You know,
Speaker 8: every you know, every culture has got outstanding citizens that
Speaker 8: every culture has got their jerks. I mean in the
Speaker 8: committee I live in, we have a large we have
Speaker 8: a large Muslim population, and we have moss and the neighbors.
Speaker 8: They're delightful, the kids are wonderful. They're not causing any trouble,
Speaker 8: you know, They're I can see them blending in. They're
Speaker 8: part of the melting pot. I don't I don't have
Speaker 8: an issue with it. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, those seat guys were especially interesting because I literally
Speaker 2: I've told this story several times on the air about
Speaker 2: the gas station and having a step in between people
Speaker 2: that were angry and a guy who had no idea
Speaker 2: that he was upsetting people and they were ready to
Speaker 2: kill him. And you know what there, Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: seek And those guys, you know, had turbans on their
Speaker 2: heads because they do they wrap their heads. They don't
Speaker 2: cut their hair and stuff like that if they're strung. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so, you know, because they consider that mutilating their body,
Speaker 2: which is against their religion, you know, and whatever they're
Speaker 2: usually I never encountered one that was like bad, like
Speaker 2: and these guys were. But the guys trying to change
Speaker 2: a ripped American flag and people were ready to lynch him,
Speaker 2: you know, because he threw it over his shoulder while
Speaker 2: he was sitting there literally changing the bad one out
Speaker 2: for the good one, and I used to take the
Speaker 2: bad ones and literally bring them to be ceremonially burned.
Speaker 2: I mean I was a proper upright boy scout about
Speaker 2: that kind of shit. And these guys were helping me,
Speaker 2: you know, because I had like twenty flags on my property,
Speaker 2: especially post nine to eleven where I lived, because again,
Speaker 2: where that one station I'm talking about is between you know,
Speaker 2: four or three or four freaking military basis, so you know.
Speaker 8: Close to the work or nine to eleven take place.
Speaker 8: I guess, you know, I can understand that people's feelings
Speaker 8: that you know, they're they're they're traumat right, they're on
Speaker 8: edge on it, I get it, right.
Speaker 2: I mean they were a little hyper. I mean after that, yeah,
Speaker 2: I adjusted. I put lights on the flags if they
Speaker 2: were out at night all that, uh, just because that's
Speaker 2: part of what you're supposed to do. Uh. But yeah,
Speaker 2: but people still were like, oh no, they're they're evil
Speaker 2: over there. They were even talking about us on the
Speaker 2: local talk radio station, like, you know, over at this
Speaker 2: particular gas station, they're all hairy Arabs and we need
Speaker 2: to probably get rid of them. They're probably terrorists, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm like Jesus Christ. You guys are endangering our lives,
Speaker 2: you know, And I was just I was pissed. But anyway,
Speaker 2: it was what it was. It is what it is,
Speaker 2: and here we go again in Iran. And look, my
Speaker 2: only prayer is that not too much blood, not too
Speaker 2: much more blood is spilled. Whatever the resolution needs to be.
Speaker 2: But that's all I've got. I mean, what can I say.
Speaker 2: You know, here we are and there's once again nothing
Speaker 2: that can be done about it by the people that
Speaker 2: object to it. And that is the way of a
Speaker 2: military conflict.
Speaker 8: So you know, yeah, I kind of feel hopeless about it.
Speaker 8: I mean, because this is all I've ever witnessed. And
Speaker 8: I was in the military under I'm all for national defense.
Speaker 8: But my god, when you start looking at the common denominator,
Speaker 8: who's always involved, who's.
Speaker 4: The one going to war with who?
Speaker 8: What's the common denominator?
Speaker 2: I never knew you served?
Speaker 8: Actually yeah, I was, well, look we're coming ring corps.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, I did.
Speaker 8: Not those reserves, those never active and never was deployed.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, fair enough, fair enough. But I'm just
Speaker 2: saying I didn't expect that from you. But you know what,
Speaker 2: at a certain point, so.
Speaker 8: Is my father, and so's my uncle, and so is
Speaker 8: my cousins.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go. I can say that, but I
Speaker 2: obviously couldn't serve. I probably would have that, you know,
Speaker 2: that would have been a likely Like, you know what,
Speaker 2: let me go do this because at least its honorable
Speaker 2: kind of thing to do at that point in my life,
Speaker 2: when I was highly eligible for it, other than you know,
Speaker 2: my bad eyesight. And I don't know if they care
Speaker 2: about you being flat footed anymore because I'm flat footed
Speaker 2: and I have bad eyesight. But you know, the eyesight
Speaker 2: was enough to keep me disqualified.
Speaker 8: They do, can't they actually do care about that? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 8: they would disqualify.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, no, Carter was.
Speaker 8: He was reinstated. You know, the selector I thought, the
Speaker 8: Selector Service. I just meant my father he joined the reserves.
Speaker 8: They said, hey, they're going to draft. You know, he
Speaker 8: knews get drafted. So he joined the reserves, and I
Speaker 8: just got it over with.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think they still have a Selective Service card.
Speaker 2: I don't know if everybody does it, but quite honestly
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 8: I don't think. I don't think any enforces it. That
Speaker 8: it was that time they said, Hey, we're going to
Speaker 8: do select I go graduated early from my school and
Speaker 8: I just serve so right.
Speaker 2: Well, I turned eighteen in nineteen ninety, so you know
Speaker 2: that's when I got my Selective Service card obviously. But anyways,
Speaker 2: Snake nineteen eighty for me. Yeah, there you go. So look,
Speaker 2: we're coming to the end of the show and I
Speaker 2: want to give you and Jimmy Jane. Jimmy still on
Speaker 2: the line. B Pete is still on the jitsy, but
Speaker 2: I haven't heard from him in a little bit. I
Speaker 2: hope he's not having a problem with the pollen, but.
Speaker 8: He couldn't before he I don't know, he's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, b Pete, I hope you're okay, man, you know,
Speaker 2: and you just don't want to come on Mike because
Speaker 2: you're coffin or something. That's okay.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm probably going to close out the show, but
Speaker 2: before I do, Jimmy, if you're still there, you want
Speaker 2: to give a final thought for the week.
Speaker 4: Hey, Blincoln was uttered.
Speaker 8: True?
Speaker 6: Fact?
Speaker 2: Well that's definitely also fact. Go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy, Thanks Jammy for that. I wonder if
Speaker 2: he decided to hire Tuty to come to my high
Speaker 2: school because that happened, uh in nineteen ninety. I guess
Speaker 2: it's Tuty from Kim Fields technically from Facts of Life
Speaker 2: came to my high school to represent the Jesse Jackson
Speaker 2: for President campaign. Gives you an idea where I was
Speaker 2: going to school, maybe just saying that's the only one
Speaker 2: I remember showing, but yeah, it was like two different
Speaker 2: facts of Life. And the Nation of Islam practically took
Speaker 2: my head off when I walked into the wrong cafeteria
Speaker 2: door that day. It was a crazy situation. That's who
Speaker 2: was guarding or the Nation of Islam. By the way,
Speaker 2: you know the Fruits of Islam guys, uh right right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: those are some tough dudes.
Speaker 8: Just saying anyway, I know because I've seen him in Oakland. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I get it.
Speaker 2: Yep. Anyways, So Danny, how about you a final word
Speaker 2: for the week?
Speaker 8: You know, And because innocent, innocent people just get killed,
Speaker 8: there's no I mean, there's gonna be moms in Iran
Speaker 8: praying for their sons daughters, and there's Mom's always been
Speaker 8: praying for their sons and daughters, and I'm just I
Speaker 8: just pray this thing. That's because this never never turns
Speaker 8: out good for is gonna be goin to speaker killed?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 8: That's hard. That's hard to do, you know, that's the
Speaker 8: really the hard part.
Speaker 2: I have to deal with it, sure is. And you know, Danny,
Speaker 2: one thing that pissed me off listening to these like
Speaker 2: hack comedians and that dabble verse thing that I heard
Speaker 2: out of one of their mouths this week was then
Speaker 2: clapping back at somebody who said, well, what are you
Speaker 2: sending somebody else's sons and daughters to die for Israel?
Speaker 2: And the guy who you know often references himself as Jewish, says, well,
Speaker 2: they're not sending your sons and daughters anywhere because they volunteered, and.
Speaker 8: It's a door raft, it really is. They couldn't when
Speaker 8: I I said it, they could. They had a hell
Speaker 8: of a time getting them. They had to institute the
Speaker 8: drug testing because they were getting a lot of losers,
Speaker 8: and then they had a problem.
Speaker 2: I saw it. Well, but here's the thing. Just because
Speaker 2: they volunteered to serve doesn't mean they volunteered to serve
Speaker 2: in a war.
Speaker 8: Like this.
Speaker 2: You know, people that volunteered deserve at a certain point,
Speaker 2: you know, before Vietnam was happening, and then went in
Speaker 2: and then ended up in Vietnam or a different type
Speaker 2: of soldier than the ones they drafted. And we're going
Speaker 2: to discover this year. If this winds up going on
Speaker 2: a while, the same thing will happen.
Speaker 8: I'll just I'll tell you that when they had desert
Speaker 8: storm and I had already left, you know, you know,
Speaker 8: I already got discharged, you know, Yeah, and I knew
Speaker 8: buddies that were still in the in the unit. And
Speaker 8: he says, you'd be surprised when devn Storlen they called
Speaker 8: it when George H. Bush, how many guys were caught
Speaker 8: crying to the chaplain because they think this was gonna happen.
Speaker 8: They'll never tell you that. They'll never tell you about
Speaker 8: friendly They'll never tell you about a lot of things, right.
Speaker 8: But I mean some do serve honorably. I mean they'll
Speaker 8: they'll step up the plate.
Speaker 4: But there's a lot here.
Speaker 8: They got in it because they're they're gonna get college
Speaker 8: or they're gonna get paid you some money, and they're
Speaker 8: generally poor just like how they drafted people from Vietnam.
Speaker 8: It's just a backdoor draft, just a different way of
Speaker 8: doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And but the thing is, it doesn't mean that,
Speaker 2: you know, they didn't volunteer saying I'm going to Iran.
Speaker 2: That's not the same thing, you know, And when if
Speaker 2: you consider and I'm not even saying that the people
Speaker 2: that say that about Israel are correct, but if you
Speaker 2: believe that the only reason why we're engaged in the
Speaker 2: in the Middle East and we're gonna lose lives at
Speaker 2: some point more than the ones we killed with friendly
Speaker 2: fire this past week, If you believe that we're gonna
Speaker 2: lose lives and that it is in just backing the
Speaker 2: State of Israel's play here, I can see why a
Speaker 2: reasonable objection should be made. And just because you're Jewish
Speaker 2: doesn't give you the right to talk about exactly why
Speaker 2: it is and how it is people are deployed any
Speaker 2: more or less than anyone else. And I just found
Speaker 2: that irritating, where it was like, well, nope, they volunteered
Speaker 2: to do this, happily, you jackass. Nobody volunteered to necessarily
Speaker 2: do this, just like people didn't necessarily volunteer to do
Speaker 2: what they wound up doing in other places. Yes, there
Speaker 2: they go where they're told and that's their purpose. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: but you don't got to tell me that people got
Speaker 2: to be happy about it, because I don't see a
Speaker 2: law for that. So anyway, I just leave you with
Speaker 2: that thought, Danny. And you know what can I say?
Speaker 2: I just like I said, my own only prayer repeatedly,
Speaker 2: will be you know, let the loss of life be minimal,
Speaker 2: that's all you know. Because five thousand guys are so
Speaker 2: died in Iraq. And I know that's a small number
Speaker 2: comparatively to many other things, but that's five thousand lives
Speaker 2: that I feel like we're wasted on a misadventure. And
Speaker 2: I'm not thrilled with that idea. I'm not thrilled with
Speaker 2: the fifty eight thousand lost in Vietnam. I am not
Speaker 2: thrilled with any of it because I think it should
Speaker 2: be the absolute last resort and that is not what
Speaker 2: we've seen in our.
Speaker 8: History exactly so exactly, I mean, if somebody, if somebody's
Speaker 8: coming here to this country, I'm stepping up the plate
Speaker 8: before I want to send my grandchild to some places
Speaker 8: that we maybe not haven't have any business doing. I
Speaker 8: have no problem stepping up the plate to defend this
Speaker 8: country or defend my home or my state what I
Speaker 8: need to do, right, I mean, that's I'm being attacked.
Speaker 8: But what's a common denominator? He's doing the attacking, right.
Speaker 2: So there you have it anyway, Right, let's let's leave
Speaker 2: it there for tonight and hope that we don't have
Speaker 2: to keep discussing this over and over and over again. Uh,
Speaker 2: that's all I gotta say, you know. Anyways, Danny, you
Speaker 2: know what I'll do is, uh, I gotta like pause
Speaker 2: and talk to missus O hopefully for a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: But I'll try and call you back if that's okay,
Speaker 2: like after the show. And uh again, I'll appreciate it.
Speaker 2: So you got take care anyway, Danny from California, And
Speaker 2: of course happy to have Jimmy James call in. B
Speaker 2: Pete co host and all of you listening, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for doing so participating in any which way
Speaker 2: that you do because I am merely o'ceelly. You are
Speaker 2: the effect.
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