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the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome.
Speaker 3: Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank you for telling
a friend. That's how we.
Speaker 1: Spread the word about the favorite ship.
Speaker 3: Oh, we got a full one today. Laura's here, and
I'm excited because there's something I want to bring up
that I want Laura's help.
Speaker 1: And then dissecting just a little bit. Yep.
Speaker 3: Kevin is here, of course, and he brought a man
who went to see this guy just the other day,
the Bigfoot, the room, sasquatch sex, the squat sacks squatch.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, that is right, sax squatch. Now. The thing
that I find interesting, Keith, is I'm wondering, why does
a guy in a bigfoot costume playing saxophone work like
it works? Right? People want to see it. Where did
you go see this?
Speaker 4: The time I just saw him was a town ballroom
in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: So is that the first time you saw them? The third?
Speaker 4: Third time?
Speaker 1: So is it sold out?
Speaker 4: Yeah? That was almost sold out on a Saturday night
or Friday night, played two almost a thousand people and
the town ballrooms.
Speaker 1: One thousand people come to see this.
Speaker 5: Can we wait backtrack?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, go ahead? Okay, what's.
Speaker 5: Sasquatch?
Speaker 1: Sas Squatch?
Speaker 5: But it's somebody who dresses up like their bigfoot?
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's Sasquatch playing a saxophone.
Speaker 1: What's the guy's name, Dave Mitchell?
Speaker 4: It's Sasquatch.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll send you a squatch.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Sasquatch has a name, sax sex squad.
Speaker 3: I think the guy's name is Dave Mitchell. And that's
the thing is, like, what did it feel like in
that room? You got a thousand people there to see
a dude in a fucking it's a It's a puppet.
Speaker 1: It's a puppet. Do you see it?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I have to pass around the videos from live seeing it.
It's it's a great mix of you know.
Speaker 3: Parents, that's like a different but he does he sings,
but I think he uh auto tunes his voice or something.
Speaker 4: He sings over the top of a lot of popular songs,
you know, from party rock, animal to some Kansas to
can what was the song I did September winded fire
throws in a little rack asslet you're never going to
give up?
Speaker 5: Come on, this is like a mix of live music
plus the kink of furries.
Speaker 1: She had to take it there?
Speaker 4: Ye take it there?
Speaker 5: Can you deny that?
Speaker 1: Well? I never thought that.
Speaker 3: I was looking at it and I'm going, we're people
vibing in the room, Like, what was it like in there?
Speaker 1: What was the energy? None? Are people taking it seriously?
Speaker 4: Oh? It's I mean, it's just fun. It's he's serious.
Where people the.
Speaker 1: Guy was a touring sex well he was. His name
is Dean Mitchell, that's his name. It was a different
bands and stuff. And you told me it was COVID.
Speaker 3: That hit and he was bored just he put on
a putting videos out that hit viral, put.
Speaker 4: On a costume. A couple of years ago, he played
at Photo City in Rochester. Oh yeah, and there was
probably one hundred and fifty people there, Okay, And at
some point in the show, you know, part of his
old act, he on stage, you know, just plays the samples,
plays the saxophone over the top of it, and then
at some point he always comes down onto the floor
and the la round and dance with everybody playing the saxophone.
Speaker 1: I'm dull and are you really Yes?
Speaker 4: So he goes And that's why I've seen him three
times because the first time was like, all right, why.
Speaker 1: What do you do the first time? You were on drugs?
Speaker 4: Probably no, wasn't it.
Speaker 5: I mean I would definitely take a gummy like you
would definitely be micron.
Speaker 4: But yeah, around the country, a lot of the shows
are sold out. Yeah, he's played at Electric Forest, which
is a pretty popular music festival. And if you were
to look up videos of him playing Electric Forests, it's
thousands of people in the daylight in the forest of
just where's the Electric Forest. It's in Michigan. Oh, it's
a festival that probably has like.
Speaker 1: A Saat festival. I know they do.
Speaker 3: They do do a Sasquatch festival somewhere, and I thought
it was in Michigan.
Speaker 4: No, this is just more of an m festival.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's big into he goes to like he's been
to the EEDC in Vegas. Are you an muys going to?
All right, he's going to England or Europe next year
for festivals.
Speaker 3: Are you going to what's the big one? It's the
world something. It's going to be in Thailand. I just
learned about this last night. That one is somebody told
me that they're going to Thailand to see some EDM.
And it almost has like a Disney name to it,
Electric Daisy Carnival, Yeah, something like that. I've gone to
the ones in Vegas. Yeah, the big ones in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Do you do you get saw a lot of EDM.
Speaker 3: Was always things like uh, molly and different drugs like that.
I think today people are a little cautious to take
those things because of the fentanyl right possibility.
Speaker 1: But did you do all that stuff right?
Speaker 3: And I'm not but believe me, there's no no judgment here.
I'm just asking, like, what is that like? Because that's
a drug I've never done.
Speaker 4: I was always a free to enjoy the music as
part of it. Yeah, the whole getting enjoying the music
is the biggest deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ecstasy too was one like and I always thought
ecstasy was like made you amorous and all that, and
I think it it.
Speaker 1: Was always the sex drug. Yeah, yeah, they x right.
But I've heard.
Speaker 3: People who took it, Laura, and they said that wasn't it.
It just made them feel more and maybe you were
touching people but they didn't have any.
Speaker 1: Sex and the matrix over that. I have no idea.
I have no idea. But have you done ecstasy?
Speaker 4: Of course?
Speaker 1: Okay and not of course but in the past, in
the past.
Speaker 3: But I mean, what is that experience? Like when you're
at like an EDM festival.
Speaker 4: I mean it's just you know, when the EDC Vegas,
for example, there's one hundred sixty thousand people there that
that the Vegas Speedway where they do the NASCAR races. Yeah,
so it's just a giant carnival in the middle of
the speedway with you know, tons of stages and music
and crazy. It goes all night.
Speaker 1: How much is it to get into something like that?
Speaker 4: I mean you're spending for the tickets for for example
that it's probably for the ticket I think they're like
six seven hundred dollars a whole weekend, but.
Speaker 1: Then go from like it goes twenty four hours.
Speaker 4: It goes from Thursday night until Monday morning, so you're
getting a full sunrise sunrise.
Speaker 5: Then yeah, it's like a music festival. How much it
costs to go to one?
Speaker 4: I mean you think about what you're spending for a concert,
go to a concert at say your pays three you know,
you go to a concert at the arena wherever. You're
spending three four hundred dollars for four nights or four
hours of music. So winnu factor in many days and
then just all that has led to all of a sudden, Hey,
here's a guy playing the saxophone. Well, all right, sasquatch he's.
Speaker 1: Going he's going to Amsterdam in the spring for a festival.
Speaker 4: And festival yeah awakenings.
Speaker 1: Are you married? No? Okay, lucky dastard.
Speaker 3: Do you have a girlfriend? You don't have anybody? You
would you take somebody with you?
Speaker 4: I'm going to a couple of friends that are married. Yeah,
notice Soulo traveling.
Speaker 1: He's the pivot man. I'm wondering, but, uh, if this
guy walked out as Dean Mitchell in gene same exact skills, right,
he plays great? Does that? Is it as cool? I
don't think so.
Speaker 4: No, definitely not. I mean there are other artists that
play you know, instruments or whatever, and but they just
don't have that of like when you're going to see
when the guy sold a thousand tickets or you know,
playing in buffalo. He told someone else.
Speaker 3: That has like him the yetti like admitted doing a
Leprechaun all the bithical creatures in a band and.
Speaker 4: It's a cover band. He's really just a cover band, sure,
with a costume on, and you just go and it's fun.
And every time he's come on tour. The first time
I went, you know, he laughed at me. He's like,
you're going to see what.
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: And the second time I said, going to.
Speaker 1: See elf, you know what I mean? And it's like
it's like watching a grown alf had I had, you know,
purs Pitt is big in the live music, and he
he was like, I think I might try it if
if i'd go so im next time he comes around,
I'm gonna go, Laura, I would.
Speaker 5: Totally go and see him. I just pull up a
picture of him. Though he's not good looking.
Speaker 1: Out Dean Mitchell is not a good looking He is
not a good looks a sasquatch or a man.
Speaker 5: Way better looking as a sasquatch.
Speaker 3: Really, I was wondering that because I go, the costume
gives you permission, right permission to come out there.
Speaker 1: And almost in a way have people act. Because I
love what he plays. I'd love to know how much
ass he gets.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I don't know if he kills that,
like he's not a good looking man, but like, yeah,
I get it. I actually went to an EDM concert
out in Red Rocks one year and it was such
a vibe. It was so much fun and I love
when you dress up for it, and you know, dress up.
Speaker 1: How like costume with wings.
Speaker 5: I didn't do like that, but I had like pigtails,
neon body suit.
Speaker 3: Like stop what you want me to be hateful because
you don't.
Speaker 1: Want to be Okay, I was gonna say, was there
it was a crotchless.
Speaker 5: No, no, I had short time, but like you know,
he knows. It's like when you go to a different genre.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: I love to go to live music, It's my favorite thing.
I'm super passionate about it. But when I go to
a country concert, I'm gonna wear something different than going
to E.
Speaker 1: D M.
Speaker 5: Versus going to I don't know, Celine Dion, Like you know,
so I sure I would definitely wear trousers like that
would be amazing.
Speaker 1: Keith was saying that he was had just put out
that he's looking for somebody to go on tour with him.
Speaker 4: He had posted something about looking for help on tour
and somebody to go travel around, and so he helped
set up.
Speaker 1: Take care of the show.
Speaker 4: If you were look at his tour dates, he plays
probably thirty shows on a tour, going all over the country.
I think he played before Buffalo was in Pittsburgh and
then went to Toronto and then you know, just does a
whole circuit everywhere and sells out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm thinking about this. I'm gonna work
on getting him on. He Keith gave me some information
to get to him, so hopefully we can get him on.
Speaker 4: That would be great.
Speaker 3: I'd love to talk to him because you know, I go, well,
it kind of removes ego, right, It adds a mystique
to this thing.
Speaker 1: It makes it a little more interesting.
Speaker 3: There's no real judgment other than because you're all there, right,
I mean, the curiosity is there, and I think in
a way it's like, don't take this too seriously. We're
just here for fun.
Speaker 4: That's the whole point of music.
Speaker 1: Fun here it is.
Speaker 3: But it's interesting that if you walked out as Dean Mitchell,
is this you at You're at.
Speaker 5: The Yeah, like fishnuts, you know. Yeah, that's like what
you would wear to an edio. Oh boy, I mean
that's actually more clothing than a lot of people who
would wear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people who.
Speaker 5: Have had two kids, like you know.
Speaker 1: Send it over for the bank bank. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, if he just came out as Dan Mitchell, would
it be as fun? Probably not in the sasquatch costume, right, Sure,
it's just a good time and yeah, people show up
and dance, and I mean.
Speaker 5: I would totally go go to that.
Speaker 1: That would be so much fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does sound like fun, actually, I have to
admit that. And the mask gives you like a little
bit of freedom for him, and I think everybody else too.
In a way does he does he stay completely in
constant the whole time, the whole time? Yeah, hot ship though,
Well yeah, I'm sure that smell like fucking home hockey equipment.
Speaker 1: That's like homeless sessions.
Speaker 5: Do you go to a lot of d M shows
around here?
Speaker 3: At Photo City Photo City autumn?
Speaker 5: So what am I a guy that I dated for
a little bit?
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 5: Is it DJ NOJ?
Speaker 1: There was?
Speaker 5: Well, like he performed at Photo City and I went
to one of his shows and it was so fucking funny.
Speaker 6: Like I was to play in the back room, he's
putting on to play in the computer.
Speaker 1: Everyone, why were you put in the back room?
Speaker 5: Because I was his guest, you know, like you're.
Speaker 4: In the green room.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, did you watch people?
Speaker 1: Wow? Why? God are you right over? What's happening?
Speaker 5: The water went down? What was his name, David? But
his because he he used to perform. He would perform
at like random rapes. He'd be like, yeah, I have
a sat at three am this week, and I'm like,
what the fuck.
Speaker 1: Do you any videos? If you played a computer on
your phone, we could bump in wait they go, these
things start. Yeah, they started like.
Speaker 4: I mean most of the nowadays, the local ones they
all start. They were more like concerts where they started
eight o'clock and you're home by one in the morning,
so it's not like many years ago would be up
till sunrise. Yeah. Yeah, there was one guy was at
Photo City a couple of weeks ago played the violin
as part of his set. It was like dubed up
and bass music, and like the man, they slowly incorporated
other instruments and make it more immersive.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I get that that mask thing to hide
because if I were really really honest about like uh,
I think I was, Oh my.
Speaker 1: God, you should do it for comedy could be completely racist.
Speaker 5: Racked r e x T.
Speaker 4: I don't know where that is.
Speaker 5: Do you know that was his stage name? It just
came back.
Speaker 1: Did he have you call that? At certain times? When
he dropped a beat?
Speaker 5: He actually he was funny. I met him, he was.
Speaker 1: He was woman.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: He I went to like a wine bar one time
and he was the Somalia wow. And I just started
talking to him and it was his birthday and then
we just started hanging out for I don't like two months.
Speaker 4: And the next year you're hitting in the green room.
Speaker 1: How how long from meeting him at the bar to
making out with him? Was it within twenty a half hours?
Speaker 5: Probably?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What's wrong without that happens? I don't understand. That's not
a bad thing. No, you need like three dates.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I'm so intrigued by this.
Speaker 3: I'm also intrigued by the EDM thing because I I
don't know if I even liked the music. I don't
know if I'm all that familiar with it. I remember
being at the you.
Speaker 1: Can't get hammered drunk at ADM because the beat and
the base is pumping. Yeah, fuck your head up. No,
so you get drugs, right?
Speaker 3: But I think I was at a I think they
had an ed M tent at Woodstock ninety nine. Oh
yeah yeah and when all night yeah, And I remember
going in there and then I'm going, this isn't this
is not for me.
Speaker 4: It's not for ever.
Speaker 1: And I left. But maybe I'm not out.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm more open minded now, Maybe I can uh
sex squatches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the entry point.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, maybe that's the thing because boy, you know,
when you see a guy and as Laura said, and
I thought this when I was thinking about talking about
sax Squatch, was he not a handsome guy? And was
this a way for that? But it doesn't sound like
that was really the purpose. He just did it as
a funny and it hit.
Speaker 4: From what I understand, it sounds like you did a funny,
you know, during COVID and made it, you know, just
made a video and next thing, you know, went viral
and turned into going to her.
Speaker 3: There is something when people don't really know who you are,
and he's putting out who he is so you can
find him as his real name, Dan Mitchell. But that
was the whole thing for me with radio, Like growing up,
I was popular in my high school, really small high school.
Speaker 1: I was athletic. That was all cool, But there were.
Speaker 3: Like things that you just I don't know, it happened
to you throughout life, Like I always thought and talked
about I would do TV or TV news, and I
never felt like I looked good enough on camera, and
I was always like I don't know.
Speaker 1: So then when radio came on, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, fuck, man, you get to be the coolest version
of yourself because nobody can see you. So it was
literally like putting on a mask when you think about.
Speaker 1: It and hiding.
Speaker 3: And I did that until oh, of sudden, you know,
as you get older, you get a little more confident
things work out for you're you know, you start building
something and then now there's video everywhere. There were pictures
and since so you couldn't hide anymore. But that was
like the thing and says I'm watching this guy, I go, yeah,
I kind of get the idea that you know, he
might go out there and play songs he would never
play without the mask on, only because if he does
fuck up a little bit, nobody cares he's in the
costume and we're not taking it to that.
Speaker 1: Seriously, you know what I mean. That's the thing that
I think it.
Speaker 4: All starts back. You know, who would start at first?
What kiss? Maybe there's probably kiss did as far as
you know, the makeup, I don't remember anybody.
Speaker 1: Alice Cooper, I guess in the seventies early did a
lot of makeup, but it was just a little bit
of makeup.
Speaker 3: Yes he did and for a while, but but I
thought Alice was like maybe one of the first that
I remember, because it was the late sixties early seventies
and Alice was really hiding anything though. No kiss your
mindful makeup, right, That's what I'm saying. But he's kind
of started that thing.
Speaker 1: One of those guys and kids are really good looking
without the makeup on either it was.
Speaker 3: A complete no not And someone looked really rough, the
guy who just died. I remember meeting him. He looked
really rough. But the uh is that your DJ friend?
Speaker 5: See I didn't have a type. I neated everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, right, you were like, you know the United Nations, Okay, Dorian,
let me get the turn. No, she was like this
her vagina was like the statue of Liberty. Get your tired.
Yes you're poor, but you're huddled masses.
Speaker 5: Well this guy was poor. Let's just talk about Oh
my god, it was poor.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it happens, but you didn't care. You
had fun for two months. Yeah, two months of.
Speaker 5: Sucky.
Speaker 1: You need to write a book, a book. I have
been writing a book.
Speaker 5: Well, I've been writing a lot more.
Speaker 1: It's more book than biography.
Speaker 5: I have my story written, not like turn it into
a book, but just something something hard I do.
Speaker 3: What I'm working hard, something like concrete. Yeah no, but
what is your what is the story?
Speaker 1: Just how you I.
Speaker 5: Sort of wanted to write my own life story. I
when I'm working with seniors, they sit there and they
tell me their life stories so much. And I talked
to them about like you know when you're going to pass,
Like do you do your kids know this? Like have
you told your kids these stories about your artifacts or
your life? And I'm even talking to my own mom
about things, and I'm like, I want something that because
I'm not like a materialistic person like that, when I
get older, my kids will be able to like read
about what I would call honest. Are you're going to
be Oh, I'm way too fucking honest, and this is
why they won't read it until long.
Speaker 1: Right, you should take some of your stories from your
summers of love and turn them into like almost like
a fifty shades, Like you could go with the sweet guy.
Speaker 3: You could go with different things. And I've gotten in Harlequin.
Speaker 5: I've always I mean, I went to school for journalism,
so I've always written, and I write a lot of
poetry and a lot of things. And there has been
times where like, okay, fuck you.
Speaker 3: And by the way, that character was a mask. Andrew
Dice Clay isn't really even his name. I forget his
real name, and and.
Speaker 1: But he just was. That was a character that he
did is a.
Speaker 3: Bit in his stand up and it caught fire and
then he sold out Madison Square Garden and he kind
of became that guy.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't really that guy. He was kind of
a really sweet, sensitive guy that people didn't know. The
same thing with Alice Cooper, like he kept quiet for years,
he loved playing golf. That's not rock and roll. He's like,
you know what I mean, handicap, He's a really good guy,
that's what I mean. Yes, yes or what.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's still he's in his seventies now,
I mean maybe maybe he is, who knows. But I
like the idea of writing and they sell things now
there's almost kits.
Speaker 5: That Jory Worth and everything, and that's sort of what
inspired me because I want to do that with my mom, right,
you know, right.
Speaker 3: And I knew people. I think I think Marge was
doing something like that. And they give you like deadlines
when to have it down and all this stuff, but
it would read.
Speaker 1: The Marge chronicles.
Speaker 5: They give you prompts like write about this, right about that,
you know, and that's something that is never going to
go out of style or get old. To write down
your actual life experience.
Speaker 3: I think it's important in a way to kind of
know what shaped you, right, And a lot of times
we can all look back and go, well, my family
arrived on the shores of the United States and blah
blah blah blah blah, and they keep that that's how
you got here, Okay, But did that shape you? And
I always think not really, it's more your previous generation
and maybe the generation before them, and what was happening
in the world right that that even shaped those people,
and then you start to see the patterns.
Speaker 1: That they they brought forward and you brought forward.
Speaker 3: And it's a little it's a little freaky, but it
can be uh kind of eye opening for sure. Your
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Speaker 3: Squatch sorry you want to say SaaS sas.
Speaker 1: Squatch. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh kevin texted me yesterday and he, said how about
this for the?
Speaker 1: Podcast i'm just going to the.
Speaker 3: Text, oh what is something so subtle or simple that
you can do that will annoy the shit out of?
People and he continued for, ME i like going To
wegmans on a Busy saturday and go the wrong way
against the flow of, traffic just to annoy.
Speaker 1: People and all they can think is you're how old are?
You forty? Five i'm older than.
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Recess what are we doing? Here because the normal fall
you go Into, wegmans you go through the, produce, right
you go to the, fishing to, meat and then you
go past all the meat and you go to the.
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start to beer and work. Back, okay but you only
do that just to annoy people a lot of. Times, Yahs.
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on WHAT i have going. On but this is like
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well there's something here that over under how many how
many Looks i'm going to?
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love going to the mall At Christmas, eve getting a
little couple of them pretzels with the, cheese just sitting
there watching the.
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and beflick to do. That i've been doing it, People
but why Hate LIKE i avoid stores when they're, BUSY
i hate going to DO i just like.
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me feel better about.
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Speaker 3: Go, okay because here's the thing THAT i think it's
a cry for help in some.
Speaker 1: WAY i don't. Know you're a mom of, boys, right isn't.
It it feels like it's like some kind of cry for.
Help but then at the same TIME i start going
and hang on a. Second life gets very structured as
you get.
Speaker 3: Older, Right you've got mortgage, payments you got a job
that maybe you, like maybe you don't. Like some days you,
do some days you. Don't you got to be, There
you got to be there at a certain. Time your
life is run on a. Schedule how do you? Rebel
because there is something like you want to push back against?
Life AND i will tell, you like.
Speaker 1: It's, drinking, well drinking and go to the supermarket for.
Speaker 5: Me but like you're inconveniencing yourself while you're doing.
Speaker 1: That i'm really not Because i'm just doing WHAT i
have to do.
Speaker 3: Anyways, yeah but WELL i, know but, yeah but where
do you put your rebellion as an?
Speaker 1: Adult where does it? Fit where does it fit in your?
Speaker 3: Life because you're, right drinking too much is definitely rebellion
some people That. No, never, no not even last night
when you called, ME i COULD i go right?
Speaker 1: Away right? AWAY i, go, oh you're. DRUNK i didn't
you last?
Speaker 4: Night?
Speaker 1: Yes the fuck you? DIDN'T i? Did, yeah you called
me at like nine, O'clock, yes around eight eight forty
sometime between eight forty five and.
Speaker 3: Nine uh you called, me AND i believe you were With.
Keith and then you sent me a picture of uh
like a mini catch a mini keg of fireball going
bye this.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow, yeah, yeah BUT i don't want to call. It.
OKAY i might have been trying to Call. Bob, No,
no you called. Me you knew you were calling. Me
what DID i? SAY i don't even remember WHAT i?
Said you said that BECAUSE i, STARTED i can tell your.
Drink oh? Man did here to put the shooting out
of The christmas?
Speaker 3: Gift we're doing all The christmas gifts And i'm like
what and, yeah so you we got a lot.
Speaker 1: Done we. Did i'm bringing him. Tomorrow, okay so you
knew YOU i called, that that's. Why, yeah, okay BUT
i was can no ship and that was and that
was before that was before we really started.
Speaker 5: Drinking it's like the night That bill called his hair dresser.
Speaker 1: Night all, right that was not that was your.
Speaker 3: FAULT i blame, you AND i do blame you a little.
Bit there's a little bit of ecarishment And.
Speaker 1: I'm, like what AM i?
Speaker 4: DOING i don't even.
Speaker 1: Know you guys got to take my shit away from
When i'm. Drinking, well, see this is the, thing is
LIKE i swear To god like, okay so, OKAY i
think most adults rebel in different.
Speaker 4: Ways we just.
Speaker 1: DO i drink too.
Speaker 3: MUCH i do it to avoid all the SHIP i
have to. DO i realized that plainly last, week like
it AND i, GO i. DIDN'T i haven't gone out this.
WEEK i shut it. DOWN i, GO i have.
Speaker 1: TO i have. TO i have.
Speaker 3: To but like adults by, motorcycles we drink too. Much
kevin walks the wrong way in a grocery. Store but
AM i the only one that little settlely rebellion. SHIP i,
mean there's there's got to be something you.
Speaker 1: ALL i do it.
Speaker 5: SUBTLY i do it by being. AUTHENTIC i don't conform
to the societal norms that they THINK i should be
as a divorce mom business what?
Speaker 1: Is what are those? SOCIETY i don't even know if
that would.
Speaker 5: Be, well just like How i'm open about.
Speaker 1: It, NO i just don't know.
Speaker 5: What LIKE i remember WHEN i started my, business my
mom was, like you need to keep quiet on some
things because you don't want it influencing like those that
would hire. You And i'm, like, well but that's not.
Me like political, views HOW i just feel, yes my dating,
past LIKE i think to.
Speaker 1: Braveyard, yeah.
Speaker 5: But you, Know i've JUST i have always been. OUTSPOKEN
i haven't like been that quiet woman that you know
you're supposed to.
Speaker 1: Be you're like a regular Or rosa.
Speaker 5: BARKS i don't want my white privileged ASS i.
Speaker 1: The back of that. Track, FUCK i.
Speaker 3: Don't, yeah white privilege is an interesting thing to always
discuss BECAUSE i think that it's SO i really do you.
Speaker 1: Want the white privilege? Contest like two weeks, AGO i,
DID i. Did it wasn't white. Privilege it was just
it was in one of my, classes DID i talk
to you about? This? Okay so in one of my, classes.
Speaker 3: The diversity, class they did what's called a privilege, walk
and they asked questions and depending on your, response you
either move, forward state, stationary or.
Speaker 1: Took a step. Back, okay, Okay so if you.
Speaker 3: Grew up in a household with at least one parent
who graduated, college step. Forward if you if you lived
in a household with at least one parent who had
an advanced, degree because that's the, job that's what the job,
required take a step.
Speaker 1: Forward so, Right so both my par and it was
things like.
Speaker 5: That it was.
Speaker 1: Things like if you ever went to summer camp or private,
school take a step, forward those types of.
Speaker 3: Things AND i knew when this, began AND i think
most people in the class. Knew the first one to
the candy ball was probably most likely going to the
fact was going to twigs in. There AND i didn't
take any of the. CANDY i felt too. Privileged, no
he just turned.
Speaker 1: Around and made it rain on all the other people
that weren't that weren't getting.
Speaker 5: Kiddy he, said this candy isn't good enough for.
Speaker 1: Me, yeah but this is not ALL i say is like,
everybody people get VERY.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to say to get hot
over this. Issue the people do not like this because
what they'll. Say many people will, SAY i worked my
ass off to get WHERE i, am AND i will, say,
Yeah i'm sure you, did but the road to get
where you were had less potholes than it did for other.
Speaker 1: People whatever that. Is AND i think sometimes to just understand.
Speaker 3: That one of the THINGS i didn't really like about
this was somebody did say and they NAMED i don't
even know If i'm allowed to talk about, it but
they just kind of, said, HEY i was thinking about
somebody WHO i knew was in the, back AND i
was wondering how they. Felt and SO i, said because it's,
ME i, GO i didn't even know you were back.
Speaker 1: THERE i was all the way up the.
Speaker 3: FRONT i mean you you literally are the definition of
the privilege in that whole.
Speaker 1: Program, well, sure, absolutely AND i know.
Speaker 4: That what go.
Speaker 5: AHEAD i actually have a client who's a PSYCH np
professor At, fisher AND i asked her if she knew
you the other. Day she does not, know she, said
you may know.
Speaker 1: HER i.
Speaker 5: Don't want to say, YEAH i got.
Speaker 3: It, Yeah, NO i well there's like. Four Because i'm
in the. Graduate she may do more undergraduate.
Speaker 1: Stuff she's not.
Speaker 5: Good, no she does more than medical. Teachers, yeah but
she gave me something to give to, you AND i
forgot to bring it.
Speaker 1: All, Right, well next time it'll be. Fun it's a. Handjibber.
Yeah but the THING i didn't, like AND i tried
to say after my little, joke was but we're all, Here,
yeah we're all. Here we're all on the same, program,
right how you got? Here? Whatever you.
Speaker 3: Know the thing that worries me with some of this
stuff a little bit on a on a different, side
Is i'm not saying that and they're talking about. Things
have you ever felt like you were being watched while
walking through a? Store will you ever kind of questioned
why you? Were you, know somebody questioned you.
Speaker 1: A lot of.
Speaker 3: Microaggression Shiit, NO i, said And i've said in this,
class And i've said, it AND i watched people's.
Speaker 1: FACES i.
Speaker 3: GO i have never felt like in my life THAT
i didn't fit in, anywhere whether it was a country
club or talking race cars with guys who work on race.
Speaker 1: Cars you know WHAT i? MEAN.
Speaker 3: I i just never felt LIKE i didn't AND i
never felt LIKE i couldn't talk to almost anybody about.
Anything and a lot of that is AND i was
also brought up to believe. This this is the, oh
the total idea of. PRIVILEGE i was AND i still believe, this.
Speaker 1: Just having knowledge for the sake of.
Speaker 3: Knowledge it kind of bothers me a little bit that
we have turned college into it is a, privilege, yeah
plain and, simple it's a. Privilege but we've turned it
into almost like a job center in a. Sense, right
you got to go to get this, degree And i'm
going to be a businessman And i'm going to, well
happened to just knowing?
Speaker 1: Shit? Well AND i like just knowing. Shit and the
people that do just go for the sake of knowledge
usually do really well in.
Speaker 5: Life that's the. Thing lifelong learning is so, important and
it's you, KNOW i talk about HOW i don't really WATCH.
TV i read a ton of, BOOKS i listened to
a ton of, podcasts LIKE i will try to educate
myself throughout AND i went To Sunni. School my degree
has nothing to do with WHAT i did. Now but
there's nothing wrong with continuing your, education.
Speaker 1: RIGHT i like to drink and just believe everything else,
well and and and then and and by the, way
fuck you, privileged.
Speaker 5: Privileged enough to look.
Speaker 1: Away come, on, man private, school, yeah hockey, programs private.
College you're right there with. ME i didn't right there with?
Me have? You have you gotten into the stuff with your,
thoughts like with dressing in the college shirt to get
ahead of the line at different places where you've always talked, about,
oh we go to the, emergency but with the boys
three times a. Week they don't know, me but they
know the guy in the college shirt pretty. Well. Uh,
Yes BUT I i didn't you make your own privilege
by by kind of ALMOST.
Speaker 3: I BUT i you Know i've been made fun of
for often for the WAY i dressed or. Something you
are wearing a fucking. SCARF i threw it. On, okay
here's what happened. Today i'm not even wearing it.
Speaker 1: Right you got you got it, backwards the tags hanging. Out,
okay well that wasn't a. Purpose uh here's the problem.
TODAY i this is so. Embarrassing you, Left you left
your dad's house and took NO i did.
Speaker 3: NOT i left my garage door opener in the car
AND i got out last night And i'm walking back
AND i hit the thing on the wall and it
started to go down AND i jumped in and it didn't.
Speaker 1: Stop it kept just.
Speaker 3: Coming So i'm, like, Funk i'm gonna get it's not
stopping And i'm gonna either break it Or i'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Whatever NOW i, ran.
Speaker 5: Was your car under the garage?
Speaker 1: Door, no my car was in the. Garage i'm walking
out and grade door opener.
Speaker 3: Privileged, okay so, Yes SO i was going. Back oh,
SHIT i forgot the garage door.
Speaker 1: OPENER i always. HAVE i only have.
Speaker 3: One so AS i jump back, in the door's not.
Stopping it keeps, coming And i'm like AND i could
feel it's push and, pushing And i'm, like, oh this
is going to break.
Speaker 1: SOMETHING i don't want.
Speaker 3: That SO i had to call this morning SAYING i
had an after hours.
Speaker 1: Emergency AND i.
Speaker 3: Know that they don't, like you, know we'll probably, happy
But i'm, LIKE i got to get places. Today SO
i needed somebody to come unlock the garage.
Speaker 1: Door so because they don't even give me, two, RIGHT
i need one in the house one of the, other. Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah so, ANYWAY i went to put on my. COAT
i threw the scarf AND i was gonna put the coat,
on AND i never.
Speaker 1: Put the cote. ON i just left because my head
was in a million. Places all, right are you okay with?
That the good? PRIVILEGE i, MEAN i can make shit up.
Speaker 5: Too that was such a bad. Story and you think
he made that?
Speaker 1: Up, yes. Exactly didn't say it was.
Speaker 3: CREATIVE i wasn't like that's.
Speaker 5: Why, yeah how you know it's?
Speaker 1: True?
Speaker 3: Right and by the, WAY i do do my own little,
rebellion like IF i can't be, DRINKING i have picked
up an old bad habit smoking.
Speaker 5: EW i. Know even when we pulled into the parking
lot AND i Saw kevin, SMOKING i was, Like, god
that's fucking so.
Speaker 1: NASTY i, know AND i KNOW i should, Quit but
there's something about having something THAT i know is sort
of frowned. UPON i kind of like. It AND i
will tell, you kind of oral fixation like.
Speaker 5: That WELL i, knew but it's gonna it makes your teeth.
Nasty oh, god never, yeah just the smell of. You
it's so off. Putting i've never been turned off more
than knowing someone.
Speaker 1: Smokes, well how many points DID i just?
Speaker 5: DROP i want to touch you with a ten foot.
Pole it's literally it's like one of those things that
makes me, GAY i.
Speaker 1: Know but see for, me one of the, things it's this.
THING i also think that smoking helps with like when
they tell people breathe, right you don't breathe you're.
Speaker 3: Taking in a pretty big. Bag it calms people. Down
i'm not saying it's the right way to do.
Speaker 5: It breathe without got cancer stick in your, mouth, idiot.
Speaker 1: It's just aud here's my we're gonna be. Judges small
acts of defiance are a pressure valve. Release it's just
a little. Bit look at.
Speaker 5: Me i'm gonna get you candy, cigarettes.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: Cough mm, hm, Well i'm sorry THAT i grossed you.
Out it's.
Speaker 5: Okay, well Actually kevin grossed me out first WHEN i
pulled them in the parking. Lot and now that you
guys both.
Speaker 1: Pulled my pants, UP i. Know AND I molly's the
hell of a, drug that's.
Speaker 3: Right just call Me. Sasqua Sas squatch does he do
backstage passes.
Speaker 1: Or anything for people to go back?
Speaker 4: There and you know the friends that was, with they
did a hundred dollars meet and greet they did after the, show.
Speaker 5: One hundred or eight hundred.
Speaker 4: Hundred, okay you talk about it. Afterwards that probably would
have been.
Speaker 1: FUN i gotta wonder how many suits he, has because
you're on. Stage the one gotta be hot.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 3: Yeah BUT i mean you go to a meet and
greet after, it and you don't hop in a shower
quick and change out to an after show sasquatch.
Speaker 1: Outfit just a.
Speaker 5: Stink maybe the smell is part of.
Speaker 1: It oh, wow you smell.
Speaker 5: Peramones, yeah, Oh.
Speaker 1: Laura look at. That. Yeah do you believe in? Pheromones
do they really? Work?
Speaker 5: OH i think?
Speaker 1: So? Yeah? Yeah really just the scent you've been drawn to?
Speaker 5: Somebody oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow how about? Cologne good, thing bad?
Speaker 5: THING i don't mind. IT i don't think it does
anything like for. Me it's not going to turn me
on or turn me.
Speaker 1: Off WHEN i picked you up for the for the,
colonoscopy WHEN i sat, down the broad Said i'd smelled.
Nice the lady, Did, YEAH i MEAN i.
Speaker 5: CAN i can smell it when somebody has it. On i'm, like,
oh they smell, Good but it. Doesn't it's not like
a sexual thing for.
Speaker 1: Me. Yeah but the pheromone, thing like you get a you,
know you're in the Gym pheromone's makermon.
Speaker 3: Look at look at the grin on her face, Too my,
god look at.
Speaker 1: This Hello, joe.
Speaker 5: He's a lucky. Man yeah, yeah i'd say.
Speaker 3: So, really why why do you say? That what makes
you say that he's a lucky? Man is this Your,
no that's not what she's.
Speaker 5: Say, NO i well it's not that. Me it's THAT
i am sexually.
Speaker 1: AGGRESSIVE i paw.
Speaker 5: Him i'm constantly like come, on you, know, yeah. Wow
last time we were talking about it because we went
to The nighthawks game and then we went out with
one of the other couples that. Went we fucking got
there and they're, like it's Red wings night and we're
like and like a couple of my other. Girlfriends there
was like five couples that. Went we're like looking, Around they're,
like do you think he's. Here i'm, like, no he
won't be. Here but then later, on like at the,
bar LIKE i just am always like Grabbing joe and
he was, like it would be odd if you stopped
being so touchy with, me because that's right.
Speaker 1: There, yeah even if you're mad at, him you're still doing. This.
Speaker 5: No, then but we still we don't like fight or you,
know And i'm still gonna we're a perfect.
Speaker 7: Couple oh, no not that some people, say like the
disagreements and things Are i've heard women say this that
they don't want somebody that they can kind of walk all.
Speaker 1: Over. Absolutely.
Speaker 5: NO i love that he puts me in my place
and he like will stand on his.
Speaker 3: OWN i just that's the whole dom thing she talked.
About but is it does that turn you on a
little bit or is? It what do you MEAN i
put you in your? Place because that's a pretty strong.
Speaker 5: No but like if he if we have a, disagreement
he's not afraid to like back down in his. Stance
like it's not like we're screaming there yelling at each.
Other but he like just Will he makes me think
from his point of view at. Times AND i think
that healthy disagreements are so.
Speaker 3: Good you, know can, you without like revealing too, much
just bring up something you may have disagreed, upon and
something if it's small or even, BIG i don't know
if there's a.
Speaker 5: LOT i, mean everyone knows That i'm big into politics
AND i have strong views one, way and he makes
me think he'll definitely bring up because of his growing
up what he does with. Work sometimes he, actually as
a white man working for The city Of rochester has
like reverse discrimination against, Him like he has not gotten
promotions because he's, white and they're, like we don't want
to white staff in this one, building you, Know and
so he'll be, like, yeah but how is it right
for me to get passed? Up even Though i've been
in this position for eight years have so you, know
sometimes he does he makes me think about, that, well.
Speaker 3: And what would you think about with, that, like because
you're originally used To, YEAH i get.
Speaker 4: IT i get it.
Speaker 5: Because i'm so much you, know what anyone non white
has had to go through to get to where they're at,
now you, know. SEGREGATION i bring up a lot, AGAIN
i read a lot about diversity and policing and. Everything
but he's, like BUT i grew up white but, poor
and so what he's had to overcome, to you, know
let me it's just it's. Tough AND i don't want
to like talk too much about his personal. Life, sure
But doe went through a lot of, shit AND i
think what he come, from he's the most amazing, person you.
KNOW i admire a lot.
Speaker 1: About that's a wonderful thing to. SAY i, mean it
really is.
Speaker 3: Nice BUT i would Ask i'll ask you this BECAUSE
dei is always like in the news, now, right AND
i WAS i was, thinking maybe we need to restructure.
It and here's Why i'm thinking that they did a
thing IN i think nineteen sixty eight in all of.
Speaker 1: The Ivy league there were about twelve.
Speaker 3: Minority, students, which, okay we need to make a change for.
That NOW i think majority of students At harvard identify
something other than.
Speaker 1: White, yeah not.
Speaker 3: White and my thinking, is what if we changed THE
dei based on income.
Speaker 4: Level.
Speaker 1: That we could help poor people who have a big.
Speaker 3: Brain and there's been many over the years that have
come out Of, appalachia for, example and went on to
Win Nobel prizes and Got Ivy league educations and things
that just somehow got out of there right and by the,
way same thing in urban areas urban settings as.
Speaker 1: Well but what if we changed it that? Way would
that make it more?
Speaker 3: Equal so it's not based on the color of my
skin or HOW i, present but more of Where i'm
truly coming.
Speaker 1: From IT'S i, MEAN i don't.
Speaker 5: KNOW i guess because that is something that we talk
a lot. About and Like keV here wearing His. Aquinas,
Yeah joe did go To, aquinas but his parents that
was their only thing that they could. Afford So joe
didn't Get christmas, like he didn't never Got christmas, Gifts
he never got anything because all of his, parents all
their money went to sending him and a sister To
aquinas just because of where they. Lived they weren't comfortable
sending them to the public.
Speaker 3: School, okay so, yeah and there's work study and things
like that too At, aquinas like you can get the
kids can get jobs and things like.
Speaker 5: THAT i don't know if there, Was maybe there is
twenty five years, ago but, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah BECAUSE i know somebody who sent like all their
kids Through, aquinas and there's a lot of.
Speaker 4: Them they did, that.
Speaker 1: All, Right, well ah they got. It. YEAH i don't.
Know it's just an interesting. Thought BUT i like. THAT
i like that you, Say joe makes you think it?
Speaker 3: Does, yeah stimulates more than just, you. Buddy we'll take
a moment and be right.
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what country festivals do you've, Lined up laura?
Speaker 5: This year we actually don't have any. Festivals planned we're
Not doing barefoot this year because my nephew's graduation is.
That weekend, but uh, so far we are Going To
teddy Swims And. Jelly roll, oh, So yeah i'm surprising.
Speaker 1: The Kids.
Speaker 5: Jelly Roll he's Syracuse and june, twenty third so it's
the kid's last day. Of school they, love him and
so we'll all pick them up.
Speaker 1: And them, and wow look. At You so i'm.
Speaker 5: Super excited lucas is pissed because when we saw him,
last year we did not. Take him yeah he's great,
IN concert i.
Speaker 3: Bet yeah and now he's lost all that weight, And
oh i'm.
Speaker 1: Not sure not. THAT why i.
Speaker 5: Don't know it's like your, try Hard don't you didn't
need to lose two hundred pounds. He could i'm glad
he lost the weight. Health reasons, but yeah keep, that,
big burly. Masculine, energy wow look.
Speaker 1: At this he. Liked that that's like.
Speaker 3: His, personality yeah that's pretty cool that you're doing that for.
Speaker 1: Your kids last day. Of school i'm.
Speaker 5: So. Excited yeah tickets went on Sale, on friday and
it was hell to buy. THEM that i was trying
to get Them in for, SOME reason i was not
able to. Get THEM so i had To call joe and,
be like you got to figure this out because they sold.
Out immediately so how.
Speaker 1: Did you get him if they? Sold us there's no.
Speaker 4: SUCH thing i. Sold out by, THE way.
Speaker 5: I know you've told me that HE has, t mobile
so we had LIKE the t mobile. Early, access oh
look at.
Speaker 3: This, privilege, yeah, yeah NO but i always thinking about that,
because like what are you modeling for for your kids
in terms? Of BEHAVIOR and i think that those are
things that they're going to love and REMEMBER.
Speaker 5: That's, i love, YOU know i love doing experiences with. The,
kids yes how are we? Are THAT when i think
we're going to Go to Denver in may for a
long weekend and we were looking up Concerts At red
ROCKS and i don't know who's going to be, there
too like no, name people not, no name BUT people i.
Don't KNOW but i, was, like well no, MATTER what
i want to GO and i want to bring the
kids so that they can see a Concert At red
rocks because it's.
Speaker 1: Just amazing you could just Go To. Red rocks you
don't have to go to. A concert It's, ALL.
Speaker 5: Oh, I KNOW oh, i know What's, the yeah, an experience.
Speaker 1: What's the What's? In denver my Aunt and sharon oh.
Speaker 5: And, Chairing yeah so, we're, like oh if we go
for a weekend and just go and do some hikes
And a rockies game and a CONCERT and i, don't
know JUST because i don't like to stay here for
Too Long, ROCKY stadium i have to have a flight
at least every.
Speaker 3: Other Month the rockies games are. Really, cool, Yeah yeah
i've been. To, ONE yeah i was at one many.
Years ago liked that stadium was cool almost forty, years
ago but it was at the time they didn't even
have the stadium they were playing Where the.
Speaker 1: Broncos play you just gotta be Careful, in, denver though
because if you, start drinking the altitude.
Speaker 5: Get, YOU oh I mean I'VE got i got.
Speaker 1: OUT there i got out there and we were At
an airbnb for my sister in, law's wedding and my
mother in law and my wife pissed. Me Off so,
I'M like i gotta go pick up my suit and
it was right next to a buffalo while ON because
i WENT and i had. THREE beers i walked OUT
like i am hammered, right now. THREE beers i need
to point.
Speaker 3: Something out here, Right, now laura her whole business is
creating order and your whole life. Is disrupting do you
realize that.
Speaker 1: You go opposite Away. In wegmans you just talked about
how they pissed. You, Off seat, she go, Fuck this. I'm,
drinking gee my whole life sounds like somebody else at.
This table, let me let me look at which what
are you?
Speaker 3: Talking about how many times did you get pissed off
and get drunk in your marriage in?
Speaker 1: TWENTY years.
Speaker 3: I DIDN'T when i get, PISSED off i usually. DON'T
drink I would i would eat, bad FOOD like i
would eat.
Speaker 1: Shitty food that was more.
Speaker 3: My Thing then i'm not SAYING That i and then.
You're RIGHT when i do, DRINK there i like.
Speaker 1: A slowly it gives you more access to feelings and you.
Express them the floodgates can.
Speaker 6: Just.
Speaker 5: OPEN see i love, to DRINK so i just try
to not binge drink at TIMES like, I really i
won't have more than like three drinks and. A night
LIKE if i open a bottle Of wine i'll have.
Speaker 1: It'll last three or. Four.
Speaker 3: Days yeah i'm the same way. At, home yeah but
Not when. I'm out and that's. THE problem i went.
Speaker 5: Out let so like, LAST night i had two drinks
At the nighthawks game and then. One afterwards on.
Speaker 1: THE opposite i don't drink a. LOT out i don't.
WANT to i don't want to deal with the D
w i s. And stuff i'll just. Pound, away, well
okay so what what do your kids think?
Speaker 3: Of THAT because i remember my father saying, TO me
i feel like we have glorified meaning he and my
mother alcohol, too MUCH and i love.
Speaker 5: To drink, BUT see i think it's also again giving,
your kids showing them like my KIDS know i. Drink,
WINE yeah i don't think they've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Me drunk my kids have, Seen me i'll tell you.
My Kids mostly brady'll just come out and start taking
shots like bust. Some, Balls okay they'll start making Fun
of keith. Or something they'll start making fun. Of me
you'll start making Fun. Of, bob Yeah he's he's just
that's how. He is the other two don't give. A.
Speaker 3: SHIP well i mean, they're OLDER but i do wonder
because it is like you start thinking about the behaviors
of your model for.
Speaker 1: Your Kids.
Speaker 5: Think i'm going to take BACK what i. Just said
my kids have definitely seen, me drunk just. Not often
i'm thinking like my birthday party This, past yeah but,
YOU know i think they're seeing.
Speaker 1: Me and keith for, so long and Me and bob
and all my all my friends. THAT drink i think
it's had the opposite Effect. On sam he doesn't he'll
drink but he doesn't drink. A LOT like i was
sitting in the graduate of the night because it was
it was decent out and JUST. Watching, tv hey, come
down have. A drink i don't, want to, all right
just he doesn't really want. To, DRINK well i had
somebody say to me, because like of course my older.
Boys do, oh yeah and they and they saw a lot.
Speaker 3: Of it and there, WERE times, I mean i can
remember when they, were little we Would do friday nights
at different, neighbors right and there was really three, houses involved,
sometimes four but, definitely three the people across the street
and the people right.
Speaker 1: Next door and the people right next door Were.
Speaker 3: From Finland, and switzerland and they had three daughters and
another daughter that they.
Speaker 1: Had adopted and.
Speaker 3: He loved all the, imports music so like The remix
madonna And the remix like he. Would do he would
be playing all this shit and then he would make
the strongest. FUCKING drinks i left their house and literally
had to be pointed how to.
Speaker 1: Get back we've, done that the bob AND and. I
go those were things my kids definitely, did SEE but
i don't know if they were conscious of it.
Speaker 5: Or not, but well and there's also different types. Of
drunks are you a? Mean drunk? Are you And that's
i'm like a, Love DRUNK like i. Hug everybody i'm.
Speaker 1: Just, happy yeah you know RIGHT what I and i.
Speaker 5: Best friends with every. Single Person right, I'm drinking and.
Speaker 3: The thing IS like i know all the SHIT that,
i DID and i don't want them to sometimes do
those things because.
Speaker 1: The laws have changed and the risks.
Speaker 3: Are too high even for injury and death and all,
that stuff and there shouldn't be anymore because we have
ride share services and things that are so easy. To
get but still sometimes you think you're better than.
Speaker 1: You are, you know a. FINE man i stopped an.
HOUR ago i mean we were looking we were looking
at the extended weather and they were talking about how
it's supposed to be like sixty five Seventy, next sunday
yes weekend what and we were talking about getting outside
and drinking in. A circle Cnn, it oh is it
supposed to be? That warm?
Speaker 5: Holy shit what seventy Three? Next SATURDAY but i think
it's supposed. To rain but yeah that's, the DAY Am
i but that'll, be, no no.
Speaker 3: That's, uh yeah that's when We're celebrating jamis in sixteenth seventy.
Speaker 1: THREE seventy i was Kind of i'm kind of BUMM
because i wanted. To go something.
Speaker 3: Happened yesterday we were going to go skiing in, the
afternoon and then he had an incident with a friend
that he wanted, to go uh check on the person
and make sure they were.
Speaker 1: All right and all. This, stuff, so uh we, didn't
Go and, I'M like i want. YOU to i.
Speaker 3: DON'T know i just wanted them to keep it up a.
Little bit And now, I'M like i don't know when
we're going to.
Speaker 1: Get the weather back to. DO it, i, mean yeah it.
Speaker 5: Said about this week is still going to, be cold but.
Speaker 1: You'll get the you'll get The, mid March.
Speaker 3: Late, march oh we can get Buried, around wait so that's,
Parade weekend no parade, weeks, yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh that's two. Weeks out. All right we've been lucky
With the praye the last couple. Of years last year.
Speaker 3: Was gorgeous LAST year i was able to make the
entire parade without having to stop At the Port of
john because you.
Speaker 1: Can't, drink no. We don't we drank a lot before
you even. Got there see See what, i'm SAYING like.
I go i don't KNOW what.
Speaker 3: I was i, don't UNDERSTAND but, i, mean, like well
we tell you eleven and it's you show up at like.
One thirty okay at. The, parade yeah parade starts. At
twelve we usually GET down i usually get. Down there,
we don't but we were not to run off until,
like late and so it's.
Speaker 1: Always, like, yeah right But The saint patrick's dy used. To,
Be see.
Speaker 3: I'll park i'll park at the end of the PARADE
so i don't have to walk all the way.
Speaker 1: Back afterwards so we'll.
Speaker 3: Park it we'll walk Up and filgers is right there
and they don't charge a cover until like eleven, Eleven
thirty so we just Go into filgers and.
Speaker 5: Start drinking joe is pissed that we can't go out
this Year because lucas is in his school play.
Speaker 3: That Day oh joe is getting his first Taste.
Speaker 5: Of parenthood's show at. Seven pm, he's wait.
Speaker 1: So doesn't have to Do, can't yeah that's true joke.
Speaker 5: COMING up, i KNOW maybe i will send him with,
you guys because he does not want to go to both.
Speaker 4: Go to what?
Speaker 1: Both, plays, oh well he'll go to one and he'll
go to. The seven but he'll be a.
Speaker 6: Little, COCKED yeah I mean i don't even want, to
go of.
Speaker 1: COURSE not i mean it will be pleasantly buzzed for
a middle. SCHOOL play i want to there's A shirt
i want to Get For. Saint.
Speaker 3: Patrick say It's a guinness shirt, That Says, hello darkness my.
Old friend he's got A glass aguinness.
Speaker 1: ON there i really. WANT that i want. THAT bathlete
i gotta go. GET it i. Still laughed the first
ship we Did the Prade and greg was on the
podcast was, no drinking, no drinking. No drinking end rolls
up with a Handle of tito's and. Handle it, JAMIS
says i was.
Speaker 3: Just, KIDDING well i think, he's probably, you know nice
to blow.
Speaker 1: His, cover.
Speaker 3: Well look the, WHOLE thing, I, Mean Greg, greg ferris,
that is but the whole.
Speaker 1: The whole Thing Behind saint patrick's day is to.
Speaker 3: Get drunk like when you look At the irish culture
and by the way they. SAVED civilization i want you
to know That the irish saved civilization Because when europe
was being plundered and, taken over they were burning all, the.
Speaker 1: Records they were burning all. The books they were tearing
down everything and it was all preserved.
Speaker 3: On this little Island. Called ireland and that's how poetry
and all, this stuff all the classics were.
Speaker 1: Saved there Ridicular redug and now we're just known, as
drugs The, fighting, IRISH right i mean there's even like
because when.
Speaker 5: You Go, to ireland that's all, you, do okay drink.
And Fight no like WHEN when, I went i had
all these plans AND then i got? What happened wept
up in the. Pub, culture YES well i.
Speaker 1: DID that I would i. Did That In quincy market
there was An old.
Speaker 3: Irish pub it was like one of The oldest irish
Pubs in america or BOSS and i. Sat down, I'm
like i'm gonna Have a guinness and then they had
the beer of the day special was Two Dollars Miller
high life bottles and CARES like i want to.
Speaker 1: Go Shopping go i'm. On vacation i'll be sitting. Right
here that's how you make a. Marriage Work but boston does.
It right they have a Lot on they have a
Lot Of port Johns Between quincy market area and. All
around so if you're drinking there out, the, day yeah
you can always find a spot On Like New york
city where you just have to go on a freaking
what what Happened? In ireland know that you were like
swept up in the. Pub culture what do?
Speaker 5: You, mean oh JUST when I went RENEE and i
went for, a week and we had planned to do
hikes and go and do, these tours and we would
like oversleep every single morning and miss our planned activity
because we were out drinking until four am the. Night before.
Speaker 1: That's all you Saw in ireland was the bottom of a.
Glass traveling just like the.
Speaker 5: FIRST night i remember at, nine o'clock, We're, like god we're.
So tired we had just flown in that day and and,
we're like, all right we Are. In dublin we have
to Go To temple bar just For one AND then
i think we both ended up making out With random.
Speaker 3: Irish dudes you realized this is going to be your
Trip to.
Speaker 1: Europe too he loves to hike and these all these
mountains and he'll camp in the. Tent recold he's gonna
Get to amsterdam and he's just gonna Be like i'm
gonna go. Hike, Here nope i'm gonna be. Over here it.
Speaker 5: Was great the ONLY night i did not get drunk
was the night that we went To See dermot KENNEDY
because i, WAS like i want to be so present.
Speaker 3: For, that okay so do you think how did you feel?
After that did you think drinking ruined?
Speaker 1: Your trip enhances? Your? Trip we do you? Have?
Speaker 5: REGRET yeah i definitely think that we didn't get to
do some of the hikes that we. Wanted, TO yeah
i mean it, was fun it. Was memorable.
Speaker 1: Was It because kevin doesn't remember calling me? Last night
they did probably?
Speaker 5: Drink, It NO like, i MEAN but i definitely WISH
maybe i wish that we would have. Extended it but
we took like our ten day trip and then we
split It between Ireland. And iceland so then when we
flew Over to iceland for the, second half we had
one glass of wine like the entire time we. Were,
there okay we were sick.
Speaker 1: Of drink they're Lame.
Speaker 5: In, iceland no it was so expensive to Drink in
iceland that we ordered a glass of wine each and
it was thirty five dollars.
Speaker 1: Per, glass yeah that was. A lot they don't have
any like any.
Speaker 3: Other, option, well well she was using her WHITE privilege
i think they.
Speaker 5: Were, like oh do you want this wine or? This
wine and we chose the better wine and then we
didn't realize that for two glasses, of wine our bill
was going to be. Seventy. Dollars yeah so because they
have to, import, everything well, that's yeah that's.
Speaker 3: Just, it yeah Like the caribbean and the other things
are a little bit more expensive when you go.
Speaker 1: Down there.
Speaker 3: That's, Uh yeah i'm starting to realize ALL the i
sort of, get concerned like as you, get older what
are the long term effects of the over drinking for
a really long period. OF time I mean i'm talking,
like college.
Speaker 1: You start going the wrong Way and wegmans for? FUCKING fun,
i know.
Speaker 3: Like even you think about like The sex, squatch guy he,
Creates joy kevin.
Speaker 1: Just irritation that's like.
Speaker 5: You choose to be friends? With him what have you ever.
Speaker 1: Had a bad time at my? Fucking? House ever?
Speaker 4: Always, fun yea we do. Have fun we have a
bass when he's out causing Chaos. And wegmans i'm having
fun At. Sex. SQUATCH yeah.
Speaker 6: I would i would rather go With, YOUR yeah i
would too.
Speaker 3: Your HOBBIES but i have seen like where there are
times where it's fun in, the moment but then, it's,
LIKE yeah i wasted.
Speaker 1: A day i'm hung over the.
Speaker 5: NEXT day i remember when when we Were, IN galway
i really wanted to do one of the Hikes and
renee just could not wake up the, next morning. You,
know so and it just, sucks because especially when you're.
Going OVERSEAS am i going to get? Back here? You
know SO if i Go to boston and get DRUNK
and i don't do something that's, planned whatever that's a six,
hour drive it's not a six hour flight and a
couple thousand, dollars trip.
Speaker 3: Right exactly, so yeah so it is like you want
to keep it on the rails a. Little, bit yeah
and you have the discipline to. Do, THAT yeah i.
Speaker 1: DON'T always i get.
Speaker 3: To, a, POINT man i can. FEEL it i can.
Feel IT if i don't leave, Right now i'll be home.
Speaker 1: At midnight well.
Speaker 5: LAST night.
Speaker 1: I know i know what my, kryptonite IS and i
still don't give. A shit it Is. Your CHRISTMAS if
i can, DRINK beer i can drink wine. All night
BUT if i start, doing shots that's where it goes off.
Speaker 5: THE road i can't, Do shots and that's what.
Speaker 1: We love to do is. WE loved i love doing
Shots With bob Keith. Chain as this is a good.
ASS time, i mean who would want to buy a
seventy dollars keg of fucking fireball? Besides me because it's
FUCKING awesome a twenty four year old. COLLEGE kid i,
don't know maybe we're. Twenty two. That's awesome so and
it's so funny that it sounds like your oldest kid
is more mature than. You Are.
Speaker 3: Job sam to, the opposite don't DO what, i do
to the opposite OF what. I, do.
Speaker 1: Well he's just seen me. AROUND somebody i don't want
to call them, dirt bags but. Dirt bags but we.
Just drink and the, Hockey, parents keith, the neighbors we
all just.
Speaker 5: WE drink i THINK that i have seen that even
as an outsider for my friends whose kids, do hockey because,
you're traveling you're at hotels all, the time.
Speaker 1: You know, And well kelsey was saying that Our friend kelsey,
out here she was saying that they went to a
tournament and they came down with all these different drinks
and stuff for to hang out in, the lobby and
all the parents are drinking like Non alcoholic michelobal ultra light.
An alcoholics, she's like what's wrong with? You people the
kids are not going anywhere but running around.
Speaker 3: Going down nowadays it is, going down and like not in.
Speaker 5: My house the amount. Of, nas yeah. It's insane, it's,
like oh you can get a BLUE moon na now and, you, know.
Speaker 1: Yeah well they're trying to stay in, business too but
what the hell is the point of DRINKING? An na just?
Speaker 3: Drink, water well that's always, been like That's how. I've
been i've, BEEN saying i think one of the worst
thing used to come out of the pandemic was the work.
From home and also like we're losing. That, connection actually
on a, RECENT podcast i accidentally stumbled on through a
link an Article In. Psychology today actually think you'll, like
this AND it's i didn't REALIZE The Us surgeon general
has made loneliness a. Chronic Illness now i'm pretty sure it's.
Chronic illness and it just talks about how lonely people
are and how.
Speaker 1: It leads to cardiovascular disease and. All this how many
cats do you have to have to be. Considered lonely.
Speaker 4: It's a.
Speaker 3: Great, question uh maybe we should do a study of that.
Speaker 1: To you.
Speaker 4: By yourself, oh yeah there once.
Speaker 3: A week but so in the article that she, started
out you ready doing a study on, BAD s, m,
groups bondage, disappoint, Attention right but what she what she
found out was the people involved in that had better
and healthier connections than people outside of these kind of,
well maybe but she was taking it to things like
you have a mechanical issue with, your car someone would
come help give you, a ride you may. Job recommendations
they just had a better connection and not everything. Was
kink and those people who were in the kink thing
also had outside. Hobby groups and the point of the
article was like the third party system where you would
go and meet, somebody, bowling, leagues. Churches, Bars right it's
like we just don't have as many anymore of the
third party systems unless.
Speaker 1: They're.
Speaker 3: Bars right but, over time when you think about like
who you've become, friends with like You and keith became
friends through hockey work and, then, hockey right and you
don't make an instant friend, with somebody you just see
them frequently at the. Same place you start to reveal
a little more. About yourself they reveal a little bit
more about themselves and you got kind of a friendship
going and maybe that goes outside there.
Speaker 1: And we're, not friends we're just ACQUAINTANCES who i want to.
Be associated do you Know what?
Speaker 5: I'm SAYING where i have met all my, adult friends
well besides, my kids is? My, Gym yeah LIKE if
i didn't go to, a, GYM right i want to
have such a core group.
Speaker 1: Right there and there's a. Third thing and what they're
saying is like most people, will, say, uh well join
a gym and. Do more but what this article is
about the architecture of the third party system or the third.
Speaker 3: Thing where you would go to isn't there as? Much
anymore and when you think, about it like most people
find a group online and. That's it and you, also
know at a certain point in your life you're so
wrapped up in the kids and things that sometimes the
other parents become your friends and so that becomes sort of.
Your circle and then, they, graduate yeah and, the circle
that circle sort of. Goes away and this isn't address in.
The article i'm just talking from my. Own experience but
you find, new PEOPLE and i think having a strong
network is really IMPORTANT and i want it with my
DAD and i watched it with. My Mom and i'm
not Saying that parkinson's wasn't would, be, delayed BABY but
i can't say it wouldn't if you just had a.
Healthier thing like, my dad his whole social circle was,
the gym but he didn't do anything outside the gym with.
Speaker 1: These people he would just be the annoying old guy
like getting UP like i, there's this this is A terrible, I'm,
strong yes you are.
Speaker 3: So weird but there was a terrible story where he
was trying to get somebody's attention that was on a
treadmill as, He's leaving so he climbs up on the
treadmill next to the guy and it's like, leaning, over
waving and the, guy's like, oh hey and they started
talking and then he can't get off. The treadmill they
had to piggyback him off because he just didn't. Right
right But what, i'm saying BUT when i went to,
visit him, but Really before parkinson's really kind of, took
over he.
Speaker 1: Did nothing it was like literally.
Speaker 3: Watching paytrip he would, read books fall asleep in the
middle of. THE day i think we went to the
diner three days. A WEEK if i have to, COOK
anything i don't. DO it i eat salads because it's.
Just easy it's draw and and.
Speaker 1: Like he would brag because all his blood work.
Speaker 3: Everything was great and so there were no additional health
problems and he died from falling, basically right but. No
sucture and Then there's March and marge is teaching Classes
At bard college and goes to a coffee group of.
Meditation groups she's got, Other Stuff and i'm, just, saying
like you can SEE where i just didn't realize it
was such a problem In The united states THAT and
i part, OF it i guess is. SOCIAL media i,
DON'T know i don't want to this or we just.
Don't talk and THAT'S where i go the work. From,
home yeah, it's convenient you don't have to deal.
Speaker 1: WITH traffic i.
Speaker 3: Get it but on the, other side all, those friendships all,
those mentors all that you're. Missing out you're missing out
and you're young enough that your liver is gonna.
Speaker 1: Be fine go have a drink and. Meet somebody do
you feel like you're missing out working?
Speaker 4: At home not, at ALL because i do also Have,
other yeah but.
Speaker 1: He's got other eight m crew.
Speaker 4: THOSE freaks I mean, friday night, YOU know i went
out to See sex squatch and then yesterday went on
a group hike with a group. Of people, you know
love that with a group. Of people so are you
part of like a hiking group. Or something there's a
lot of different groups that are part of and then
you know they get together and. Go out so, you
know you go from a concert one night and next
day hang out with a group of people and spend
the day outside and go for a hike and then
end up in your you know friend's garage. At night
so it is, you know you Have to i've always.
Speaker 1: Been hesitant to, join those like those.
Speaker 5: Hiking groups my mom has been in a Group called.
Speaker 1: Dick you'd be freaking out there doing. A, SET no i.
WOULD not i want to say it's.
Speaker 5: Like huggers it's for, Like, actors, yeah active like. Older
generation my mom has probably been in it for, thirty
years out.
Speaker 1: And daughter so, many, Friends.
Speaker 5: Guys my mom is probably not just like swinging your.
Four yearism i've never asked.
Speaker 1: Where.
Speaker 5: CAME from, i mean my dad couldn't keep.
Speaker 1: It, up secondly she said what, she said what? For husbands?
Speaker 3: My?
Speaker 5: Mom, Yeah, no no my mom was. My stepdad my
dad changes. Every time my mom was with my stepdad
for twenty years. He passed but my mom was. Always
active she goes skiing with, this group she, plays youkr
she goes, on hikes she goes she is. Always going
and my stepdad was never interested in any. Of it
so it's like she had her friends that kept her
active and healthy and out and, about.
Speaker 1: Yeah out and. About yeah let me tell you something just.
Speaker 3: Around me, My, father uh so he wanted to, travel
more but he had nobody was.
Speaker 1: Going with so he took a solo Trip.
Speaker 3: To ireland this might have been right before nine to
eleven because he, came back he got back in and then.
Speaker 1: Everything, happened yeah.
Speaker 3: And he was going to go on a hike and
it was the hike was either Out and about group
or outward bound or something. Like that so he's all
set to go AND then i don't know how it tipped,
him off.
Speaker 1: But it Was a.
Speaker 3: It sounds terrible because it's that that big, a deal
but it was a. Gay, group yeah and so, he's like,
you know, HE'S like i don't know what it.
Speaker 1: Really. WAS yeah i think.
Speaker 3: My BROTHER and i or maybe he went on the
hike and didn't realize until all of a sudden he's
looking around and, it's.
Speaker 1: Like, you know maybe THAT was, I remember i have To.
Speaker 3: Ask kevin, but yeah but and SO and i don't
know that you're on, a hike, you know and maybe
it was a way to.
Speaker 1: Meet people, you know you're like minded people who kind of.
Aren't you i'm not going to.
Speaker 3: Feel judged i'm not going to feel whatever because of,
my Orientation and i'm more comfortable.
Speaker 1: THAT way i have, no idea but it was funny
to talking.
Speaker 4: About it it's.
Speaker 3: Really good, all right we'll close it out for a
beautiful day.
Speaker 1: Seventy three degrees and two in. Next, Week, yeah sunday
and the garage is gonna be. Creaking, garagio yeah the garagio.
Very good we'll have to turn the. Heat down we'll
just have to be out seven.
Speaker 3: Or.
Speaker 4: Open yeah?
Speaker 1: This ready? You, Ready oh.
Speaker 5: I'm ready she's ready.
Speaker 1: To, SKIP no, I said i have a.
Speaker 5: Gallon, next SATURDAY so i can't have my.
Speaker 1: Chocolate. Ball yeah i'll invite her and she. Won't come what's?
Speaker 5: My call tommy is one of the best judges.
Speaker 1: This Year Tommy fordet, Oh, cool oh. THAT'S awesome I
love tommy. For that the iron smoke. And uh and
they've done a hell of.
Speaker 3: A job they were the first one in that cannery now,
and yeah they showed it.
Speaker 1: Could work now you can't, PARK no I just.
Speaker 3: I'm driving through last Night and I've got i've dropping
One of jamison's buddies OFF and.
Speaker 1: I think there was a girl in the.
Speaker 3: Car too so we're Driving through FAIRPORT and i noticed
cars on the side of the ROAD and.
Speaker 1: I, go oh and they, did parking and. He goes
he just starts laughing because you see the most. Random
SHIT and, i go wait. A second, i, Said yeah.
I'm old i'm glad there's parking like people like to.
Go out it was good they built more parking spaces
when they widened. The bridge so there, you go all Right,
For laura They for Keith, And sacks Squatch for kevin
and loves To. Disrupt, wegmans, Hell Yeah I'm bill murray
and we'll see you. Next time see what you want
to Knock With tennessee evening