Speaker 1: And we are back.
Speaker 2: So ladies and gentlemen, we got another topic here that
we're going to be getting into. Oh my goodness, We're
just full of topics tonight. Our next one is sticking
in to the DC Realm. However, a clay Face movie
is officially confirmed for the DCU, releasing in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Discuss.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: This is so exciting for me.
Speaker 4: I feel like I didn't really care much about clay
Face until like literally this year. I would imagine, like
Travis and I did Cape Crusader and the version of
clay Face. There was really really intriguing to me. Really
like that character, and like I remember him from the
Arkham Game, but like not really, he's just kind of
just kind of a battie.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I really like this, especially coming off of Penguin.
And of course, like there was a character that we
were talking about is somewhat maybe loosely related to clay Face.
So I think that we're getting some you know, cookie
crumbs around that now we're getting this. It's like, oh man,
I trust that they actually have something planned for this character,
and maybe something that they've been cooking on. I don't know,
just not necessarily they have full on script already, but
just like I feel like they see where it could
fit really well in certain aspects of things that they've
already covered. I know, like the Batman is a little
bit it's kind of a gray area right now with
the overall like advancement of the DC because it was,
you know, picked up when James Gunn and team took over.
But I mean, Penguin did really well, obviously the Batman
did really well, So I'm liking just this this focus
maybe going forward with the clay Face movie and the
fact that it's like a whole movie too, is I
don't know, like part of me is intrigued about the
idea of them being so confident that they have something
solid to put it on the big screen and they
think it's going to be like really popular or at
least make a profit.
Speaker 1: Like I think I.
Speaker 4: Would love to see like a really great standalone clay
Face movie on the big screen, but I also just
feel like it's potentially safer slash easier to do it
in a TV series. I mean, the Penguin show that
just came up was absolutely fantastic, really really well made.
So if it's something.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 4: I'm just worried it would be like too rushed on
a big screen. So maybe that's where I'm a little
bit torn in the middle of the decision for it
to be a movie. But yeah, no, I think initially
if you're asking me, like what my initial thoughts are, yeah,
just pretty pretty thumbs up for me.
Speaker 3: Pretty thumbs up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is interesting. I was just pulling up the
slate of things because it's hard to remember all that
stuff because this is now so long ago now, like
the kickoff of this universe, right, we're finally starting to
get stayed pretty soon here with the trailer the first
trailer for Superman pretty soon here, but looking at the slates, yeah,
Superman next year. The year after that is when we
get Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow, and then Clayface would be
the next one currently on this late and then I
guess kicked back in priority we could say, uh is
the authority brave in the bowl that the Batman wan
and uh swamp thing which I kind of forgot about
the swamp thing announcement, but interesting, like this first they're
calling it Chapter one Gods and Monsters. I guess is
like Clayface and Swamp Thing movies in there seems interesting,
So I'm really curious to see what the budget on
a movie like clay Face or a movie like Swamp
Thing will be. And maybe that's part of the strategy here,
is like, Okay, Superman, I guess you don't have a
ton of huge names in there. You're getting some more
low key actors, so maybe you can hopefully keep that
budget in a pretty respectable amount. But maybe that's like
part of the strategy here is like the bigger blockbustery
ones like Batman I would assume would be like that too,
and then like maybe some smaller budget things like hope,
Like that's kind of what I'm hoping for here with
something like clay Face and Swamp Thing, just for their sake, Like,
I feel like you got it. You gotta be careful here,
how you're doing all this stuff when you're going for
some more potentially risky characters, especially like as your third
film in this In this Thing, clay Face seems like
a really bold place to go. I also don't know
much about this character, so maybe it's an amazing place
to go. Just from some quick Google it seems like
there's a lot of potential there for a lot with
the character in terms of I don't know, more hero,
more villain, more or something in between different angles to it.
It seems like, I guess, look looks like the writer
here is Mike Flanagan, who you know did all those
like Haunting at Hillhost and all those things for Netflix
and whatnot, So it seems like that's a great pairing.
Matt Reeves is also a producer on that that film
as well, along with James Gunn and Saffron, So I
don't know, seems like they're they're setting up for success here,
but it definitely seems like a bit of a risk.
I'm excited to see more about that because until I
get like a trailer, I feel like I don't really
know too much about that. It's just verynown unknown quantity
for me when it comes to DC character.
Speaker 3: But it's cool.
Speaker 2: Do you guys wish that this was something that was
attached and continuing on kind of in the Robert Passion's
bat Man universe like the Penguin?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very much.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 4: I feel like it fits the tone so well with
like what my perception of the character is because I
feel like the Cape Crusader vibe is similar to that
where it's just very like dour.
Speaker 1: I mean, the.
Speaker 4: Batman universe is kind of always that way. Maybe not
like the Burton ones like from the nineties eighties where
they're just kind of goofy, but yeah, I think it
fits so well there. I mean, I was already talking
about the character who like, I don't think it's a
big relation in the sense of like it's a big
pairing of like clayfacing this character, but they were somewhat
related to it, so I just felt like it fits
really well.
Speaker 2: So yes, cool, Yeah, I'm I'm actually really really excited
for this. I think that there is a a real cool,
horrifying experience to have from a movie like this because
it's just such a terrifying villain and like flying in
the Goat, I think that I've I don't remember if
Clay Face was in the Arkham games. You played them recently, Dilan.
Speaker 5: I think I played the first the first one I
played a bit of city.
Speaker 1: He was in the city.
Speaker 4: I did not play cy Is the one I played in.
I'm pretty sure he's in there, but I'm a double check.
Speaker 2: I just remember playing on game Boy Vance the Batman
Rises since game and there was a clay faced boss
battle and it was just like it was wild.
Speaker 5: Is it kind of like Sandman in his powers?
Speaker 2: I'd say it's very similar to Sandman, but he can
more like.
Speaker 5: He can also transform to other people kind of like
mystique or apparently.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's I believe that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just so, Yes he is.
Speaker 1: He is an Arkham City.
Speaker 4: And it's interesting because, like I I remember him in
that game specifically being like a Sandman type character, big
just yeah, sand gollum looking thing. But in the Cape
Crusader show, it's very different where it's all about him
kind of taking the persona of other people and it's
like there's a murderer. So it feels very street level
in that sense. So seems like a pretty flexible character
that they can do definitely some different things with I
now that I've been more exposed to like that side
of it with the Cape Crusader stuff, one hundred percent
that's what I'd prefer. I would prefer that way more
over just a big gollum that's you know, like a
big brute man.
Speaker 3: But it's that's interesting.
Speaker 5: I feel like we've seen characters like that before, but
that's very that's kind of typically a villain type character.
Like part of why those kind of characters work is like,
as the viewer, you're not sure who which characters are real,
or who is who, or when a character has been
fooling someone in a scene. So to have it like
the flip of the perspective. And let's say the movie
is like starring and following clay Face.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's not what it is.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's just like that is he is the villain
of the movie and someone else is kind of leading
in it. I'm not sure that that seems like it
could be a weird angle to go at it, but
something different.
Speaker 3: So obviously it must.
Speaker 5: Have been pretty good screenplay for them to green light
it and give it the go ahead.
Speaker 2: Uh So, now, Dylan, you mentioned a few of those
other projects, and that's actually one of their topic talking points.
Here is for DC films slated for twenty twenty six,
and clay Face is officially one of.
Speaker 3: These, right along with super Girl.
Speaker 5: And then what would be the other ones, because I mean,
on this list I'm looking at it doesn't have dates
for anything else. But I assume I guess authority and
brave them. The bold would be the next ones on
the chart. Yes, and there's or I guess, are we
including Batman two in that four?
Speaker 3: I guess right?
Speaker 2: And well, that's actually the highlight of this of this
point here is because it is included. But is it
gonna get booted?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Because we've got all these other DC projects that have
kind of been taken over the cinemas here.
Speaker 5: So well, I think because another one of the movies
that's upcoming is Braving the Bowld, another Batman thing, and
so I feel like they should try their hardest to
separate the movies by at least like a full year.
Speaker 3: I would think.
Speaker 5: I mean, people love Batman, people will go there's a
lot of people would go see two Batman movies in
a year. But I do think that's gonna shrink your
market the closer you put those together, especially if someone sees, like,
let's say Batman two is about to release, but like
the Brave of the Bold trailers already out there and
people are watching, They're like, you know what, I'd rather
go see this other one with Glenn Powell as Batman.
Like I don't want to go see Batman two. That
could be risky. So I like, maybe Batman two gets
a delay just in terms of like within the same year,
like a month or two, like just to have better
release date balance for the for the DC calendar. But
I think they would be a mistake one if they
just keep kicking that back. I mean, Penguin's very hot
right now, and the longer you leave that, the more
people are gonna kind of forget about and move on.
And then Batman one came out like what like seventeen
years ago. Now it's been so long ago, like it
feels like forever ago. So I feel like they need
to put double time on that, make sure it gets
out and then but I think the biggest part of
that is, yeah, separate right from the other Batman movie
that's coming, so hopefully hopefully it doesn't get a meaningful delay,
just gets like a consequential like month or two delay,
just to line up their calendars better.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I've said this before many times that James
gunn he is prioritizing his universe first. And I think
you have things already in motion, like the Penguin Show
and like Matt Reeves Batman and so those were already
out there. But again, after seeing the bad fallout. Post
release of Joker, Falada, James Gun is probably thinking, you
know what, these first ones that are hits, you know,
the sequels yet probably not great. And I don't think.
Speaker 5: He's I can just imagine him chewing out Matt Reeves
for Joker too, even though Matt Reeves has like no
connections to.
Speaker 1: Get on the bench.
Speaker 2: I think that at the end of the day, he
really just wants to create his Batman and set up
his little universe, even though again super Man is not
supposed to be setting up universe. It's its own thing.
But he trying to create his own little sandbox of stuff.
And this is just an outside element that he did
not create.
Speaker 1: It's not his. And so I feel.
Speaker 2: Again that he's just gonna keep pushing it and pushing
and pushing it. If if a guy, if you want
to make something happen, and you're the leader and you're
running the show, then you're gonna make it happen. I mean,
he just he made the Superman movie happen again. Uh,
and he's he's putting that forward. He's done his Creature
Commandos show. He's he's making things happen. And again, if
you have the power you can move mountains, then you
know you're gonna move mountains. You're gonna do it. And
so if we were, if he wanted to, we would
get The Batman Part two. It's all I'm saying, Well,
we're not. It's getting delayed and delayed and delayed, and
I think that's gonna come to a point where you're
you're never gonna see this movie. And I hope that's
not the case, because I really love that first Batman
movie and I really love the Penguin, and so I
hope that they can rally together and they can make
it happen, because we deserve to get a sequel to
that film, deserve to get the trilogy, because that's how
from what I remember, things are kind of like set
up in Stage four us to be a three parter.
So it would be nice to kind of get that.
But as for the other movies that are dropping, uh yeah,
I'm I'm excited. I'm curious to see how James Gunn
kind of delivers on all these different fronts. But my
excitement out of all these projects is still gonna be
just The Batman Too, which ironically is just not a
James gun project. I mean, I guess it is now technically, but.
Speaker 5: Oh, he'll slap his name all over those credits.
Speaker 4: You know he's gonna animate himself in the intro he
does Future Commandos.
Speaker 3: That's right. I don't know if I have anything else
on this particular topic.
Speaker 1: A Patreon question to address just a.
Speaker 2: Patreo Oh yes, we don't forget those here now from
Maddie SAgs. Would y'all cast as Clayface.
Speaker 5: Kirkling, I feel like you're the biggest clay face head.
We got to two picks.
Speaker 4: In my brain, I was gonna go last because didn't
want to accidentally steal out one of you guys, but
I'll go now since you've focused the highlight on me.
Speaker 1: Initially, my mind went Willem.
Speaker 4: Dafoe because I feel like he's just in the prime
of like he's just so fantastic, Like he's not a
new actor, and I feel like he's always been great,
but it just seems like he's in so many things.
Speaker 1: Now, like every year. It's just like a Willem Dafaue project.
Speaker 4: And I think it would be a great like transition
into like going from Marvel to DC doing a character
like that, And I think he could just chew up.
He could be playing like so many different versions of
his own characters that he's played in his career, just
through different personas that he could be doing for Basil Carlo.
And he's just I would love that, Like I'm already
hyped for the thought of getting a clay Face project.
Speaker 1: And if you tell me, William Dafoe.
Speaker 4: Is leading that God dialm, like sign me up, I'm
there at midnight to get my tickets, even though we
don't do that anymore.
Speaker 1: Then the other one that I don't know.
Speaker 4: I he just popped in my head recently because I
was thinking about Breaking Bad and I was talking about
this character with someone at work, and uh, Jesse Plemmons, Dude,
Jesse Plemmons. I feel like he could be another fantastic
take on a Basil Carlough, like different to Willin Dafoe,
but also not so different in like just the oddities
of I think what they bring to the roles. And
I mean that in the most positive sense possible, Like
they're just very unique in the sense of how, oh
my gosh.
Speaker 1: Help me out.
Speaker 4: Lad's what's Riddler's name? What's the actor? Yeah, Paul Dana
also accurate, also very unique, you know, one of one.
Both good pitches and both were the Riddlers, So there
you go. But yeah, I just feel like when I
see like a Paul Dano, like I just am expecting
like a like a weird role in the most positive
sense possible because I love him.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: Your Riddler, Like, that's the Riddler that.
Speaker 4: If he was on family Feud, you know, like, what's
what's an actor that played the Riddler that he's hitting
that right away or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was my.
Speaker 3: Picks nice, my pick I.
Speaker 5: So I didn't mention this in what we've been watching,
but this is two or three weeks ago. I watched
a Gloria's Baskets again, which I just love. And so
my pick here is gonna be Christolph Waltz. Where's this
guy been? Where's he been?
Speaker 3: Guys?
Speaker 5: Have you seen him in anything in the last decade?
Speaker 3: What's he up to?
Speaker 4: You know, it's probably in like a really weird heartwarming
movie where like a child actor is the role like
the lead, and then he's like a very like old
like sideway.
Speaker 3: Does it have to be weird? You said, a weird
heartwarming movie?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: Hallmark Hallmark.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 5: I hope he's doing more than the Hallmark stuff because
he's a great actor. But I mean inglorious bastard. I mean,
this guy whips out like six different languages in this.
I'm sure he could do some accents as well, so
I feel like he could really pull I mean, I
guess with Clay Face, I guess the character would be
shape shifting, so it wouldn't just be like the same
guy speaking multiple language.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. You can do whatever you want.
Speaker 5: It's Clayface, you know, so I'd say go with that.
Speaker 3: Yes, maybe it's type.
Speaker 5: Guy's name is a villain, which's which he's done, you know,
a few times before. But I don't know, I just
want to see him. I feel like he hasn't done
any superhero stuff. I feel like that's like a realm
he hasn't ventured into, and this seems really cool, and like,
I don't I would love to see him in like
a starring role, which it seems like this would be.
So I'm definitely in favor of this.
Speaker 3: Bring bring him back.
Speaker 2: He's got a movie releasing. It appeared to dropped in
some film festivals twenty twenty four. In October, but it's
releasing publicly in theaters twenty twenty five. It looks like
it's called Old Guy where he looks like it's an
action comedy. It looks like he looks like he's kind
of got like a leading role in here. Uh Lucy
lou Cooper Hoffman.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, so you're speaking of me. You're speaking
of me.
Speaker 1: Stuff does nothing for me.
Speaker 5: It's only if it's a weird, heartwarming work.
Speaker 1: It's weird. He didn't say weird in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who am I picking for my clay face? You
know what, I'm gonna go have your bar dam. I'd
love to see this guy. I've just been getting the
No Country for Old Men met memes gifts just popping up.
Speaker 5: I think you said meat and the No Country for
Old Men Meat.
Speaker 1: I also full Yellowstone. He's thinking about his next breakfast.
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention this too. There is a show
called is this called Monster? Yes, Monsters, The Lyle and
Eric Menendez Story, And I've earlier. Yeah, he's in there,
and I watched like two episodes in and I have
to go back and finish more of it because I'm
kind of confused. If this is like when the show
actually released, because I thought it was released recently, but
apparently it's not.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there's two different ones.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, there is two different ones.
Speaker 4: There's the dam one that came out a couple of
years ago, and then now it's Monsters, the Eric and
Lyle or an Endos story.
Speaker 5: But then I think there was also two things about
those brothers on Netflix, like two separate.
Speaker 1: You are correct, yes, yeah, my head.
Speaker 3: True crime is just spewed all over Netflix.
Speaker 1: It's every amazonly in one of them.
Speaker 2: And the one he's in it is like it's it's
really good. He's fantastic, he's angry, he's happy, and it's.
Speaker 3: Just the amemark of any great act.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Well, the scenes with him are just so so tense
and crazy. I think he could play a good h
a good Clay face. I put a lot of stock
in him.
Speaker 5: Nice too, I trust it, and uh, I guess we Well,
someone else on our patren had a good suggestion here
for what they want to see, right, we can.
Speaker 1: Talk about on their own podcast.
Speaker 2: Not that he was asked, but he hadn't answered.
Speaker 5: He was not asked, but Clay says, not that you
asked me, but I would cast up to Tell and
let him get weird with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, weird he used the word weird.
Speaker 5: Unlus we know he has acting action shops. Definitely, Yeah,
I don't know, like Perklin, Since you're familiar with the character,
do you think Dev Pattel is a good fit for
this this?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: I think Dev Ptel is just such a phenomenal actor
that he could be playing so many different individuals. And
I would like to see him in that villain role
because I feel like the things I've seen him in
lately have been that hero which is so good at
but well Green Knight, He's questionable at times. He does
some morality questionable things.
Speaker 3: No more, I love to pick.
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like every fan cast we've done
in the last two years, I've put Dev in like
any role I put him in, a green I put
I don't any time we do anything, I put him somewhere.
Speaker 3: So I'm all for it too.
Speaker 1: Have you watched Monkey Man yet? Yes?
Speaker 2: I really know it's on my last I haven't seen
it yet, but sure give it to Patel.
Speaker 1: That's the casting director. Tell give it to Patel.
Speaker 2: Mm hm. Cool.