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Speaker 1: And we are back.

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Speaker 2: So ladies and gentlemen, we got another topic here that

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we're going to be getting into. Oh my goodness, We're

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just full of topics tonight. Our next one is sticking

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in to the DC Realm. However, a clay Face movie

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is officially confirmed for the DCU, releasing in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Discuss.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: This is so exciting for me.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I didn't really care much about clay

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Face until like literally this year. I would imagine, like

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Travis and I did Cape Crusader and the version of

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clay Face. There was really really intriguing to me. Really

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like that character, and like I remember him from the

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Arkham Game, but like not really, he's just kind of

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just kind of a battie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I really like this, especially coming off of Penguin.

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And of course, like there was a character that we

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were talking about is somewhat maybe loosely related to clay Face.

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So I think that we're getting some you know, cookie

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crumbs around that now we're getting this. It's like, oh man,

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I trust that they actually have something planned for this character,

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and maybe something that they've been cooking on. I don't know,

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just not necessarily they have full on script already, but

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just like I feel like they see where it could

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fit really well in certain aspects of things that they've

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already covered. I know, like the Batman is a little

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bit it's kind of a gray area right now with

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the overall like advancement of the DC because it was,

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you know, picked up when James Gunn and team took over.

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But I mean, Penguin did really well, obviously the Batman

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did really well, So I'm liking just this this focus

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maybe going forward with the clay Face movie and the

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fact that it's like a whole movie too, is I

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don't know, like part of me is intrigued about the

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idea of them being so confident that they have something

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solid to put it on the big screen and they

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think it's going to be like really popular or at

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least make a profit.

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Speaker 1: Like I think I.

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Speaker 4: Would love to see like a really great standalone clay

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Face movie on the big screen, but I also just

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feel like it's potentially safer slash easier to do it

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in a TV series. I mean, the Penguin show that

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just came up was absolutely fantastic, really really well made.

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So if it's something.

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Speaker 1: Like that.

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Speaker 4: I'm just worried it would be like too rushed on

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a big screen. So maybe that's where I'm a little

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bit torn in the middle of the decision for it

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to be a movie. But yeah, no, I think initially

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if you're asking me, like what my initial thoughts are, yeah,

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just pretty pretty thumbs up for me.

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Speaker 3: Pretty thumbs up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is interesting. I was just pulling up the

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slate of things because it's hard to remember all that

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stuff because this is now so long ago now, like

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the kickoff of this universe, right, we're finally starting to

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get stayed pretty soon here with the trailer the first

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trailer for Superman pretty soon here, but looking at the slates, yeah,

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Superman next year. The year after that is when we

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get Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow, and then Clayface would be

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the next one currently on this late and then I

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guess kicked back in priority we could say, uh is

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the authority brave in the bowl that the Batman wan

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and uh swamp thing which I kind of forgot about

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the swamp thing announcement, but interesting, like this first they're

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calling it Chapter one Gods and Monsters. I guess is

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like Clayface and Swamp Thing movies in there seems interesting,

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So I'm really curious to see what the budget on

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a movie like clay Face or a movie like Swamp

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Thing will be. And maybe that's part of the strategy here,

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is like, Okay, Superman, I guess you don't have a

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ton of huge names in there. You're getting some more

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low key actors, so maybe you can hopefully keep that

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budget in a pretty respectable amount. But maybe that's like

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part of the strategy here is like the bigger blockbustery

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and then like maybe some smaller budget things like hope,

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something like clay Face and Swamp Thing, just for their sake, Like,

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how you're doing all this stuff when you're going for

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some more potentially risky characters, especially like as your third

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film in this In this Thing, clay Face seems like

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a really bold place to go. I also don't know

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much about this character, so maybe it's an amazing place

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to go. Just from some quick Google it seems like

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there's a lot of potential there for a lot with

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the character in terms of I don't know, more hero,

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more villain, more or something in between different angles to it.

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It seems like, I guess, look looks like the writer

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here is Mike Flanagan, who you know did all those

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like Haunting at Hillhost and all those things for Netflix

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and whatnot, So it seems like that's a great pairing.

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Matt Reeves is also a producer on that that film

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as well, along with James Gunn and Saffron, So I

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don't know, seems like they're they're setting up for success here,

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but it definitely seems like a bit of a risk.

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I'm excited to see more about that because until I

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get like a trailer, I feel like I don't really

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know too much about that. It's just verynown unknown quantity

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for me when it comes to DC character.

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Speaker 3: But it's cool.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys wish that this was something that was

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attached and continuing on kind of in the Robert Passion's

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bat Man universe like the Penguin?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very much.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it fits the tone so well with

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like what my perception of the character is because I

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feel like the Cape Crusader vibe is similar to that

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where it's just very like dour.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the.

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like the Burton ones like from the nineties eighties where

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they're just kind of goofy, but yeah, I think it

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fits so well there. I mean, I was already talking

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about the character who like, I don't think it's a

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big relation in the sense of like it's a big

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pairing of like clayfacing this character, but they were somewhat

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related to it, so I just felt like it fits

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really well.

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Speaker 2: So yes, cool, Yeah, I'm I'm actually really really excited

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for this. I think that there is a a real cool,

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horrifying experience to have from a movie like this because

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it's just such a terrifying villain and like flying in

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the Goat, I think that I've I don't remember if

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Clay Face was in the Arkham games. You played them recently, Dilan.

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Speaker 5: I think I played the first the first one I

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played a bit of city.

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Speaker 1: He was in the city.

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Speaker 4: I did not play cy Is the one I played in.

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I'm pretty sure he's in there, but I'm a double check.

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Speaker 2: I just remember playing on game Boy Vance the Batman

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Rises since game and there was a clay faced boss

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battle and it was just like it was wild.

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Speaker 5: Is it kind of like Sandman in his powers?

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Speaker 2: I'd say it's very similar to Sandman, but he can

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Speaker 5: He can also transform to other people kind of like

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mystique or apparently.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's I believe that's right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just so, Yes he is.

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Speaker 1: He is an Arkham City.

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Speaker 4: And it's interesting because, like I I remember him in

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that game specifically being like a Sandman type character, big

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just yeah, sand gollum looking thing. But in the Cape

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Crusader show, it's very different where it's all about him

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kind of taking the persona of other people and it's

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like there's a murderer. So it feels very street level

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in that sense. So seems like a pretty flexible character

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that they can do definitely some different things with I

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now that I've been more exposed to like that side

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of it with the Cape Crusader stuff, one hundred percent

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that's what I'd prefer. I would prefer that way more

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over just a big gollum that's you know, like a

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big brute man.

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Speaker 3: But it's that's interesting.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we've seen characters like that before, but

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that's very that's kind of typically a villain type character.

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as the viewer, you're not sure who which characters are real,

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or who is who, or when a character has been

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fooling someone in a scene. So to have it like

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the flip of the perspective. And let's say the movie

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is like starring and following clay Face.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's not what it is.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's just like that is he is the villain

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of the movie and someone else is kind of leading

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in it. I'm not sure that that seems like it

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could be a weird angle to go at it, but

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Speaker 3: So obviously it must.

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Speaker 5: Have been pretty good screenplay for them to green light

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it and give it the go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, now, Dylan, you mentioned a few of those

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other projects, and that's actually one of their topic talking points.

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Here is for DC films slated for twenty twenty six,

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and clay Face is officially one of.

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Speaker 3: These, right along with super Girl.

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Speaker 5: And then what would be the other ones, because I mean,

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on this list I'm looking at it doesn't have dates

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for anything else. But I assume I guess authority and

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brave them. The bold would be the next ones on

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the chart. Yes, and there's or I guess, are we

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including Batman two in that four?

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Speaker 3: I guess right?

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Speaker 2: And well, that's actually the highlight of this of this

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point here is because it is included. But is it

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gonna get booted?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Because we've got all these other DC projects that have

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Speaker 5: So well, I think because another one of the movies

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that's upcoming is Braving the Bowld, another Batman thing, and

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so I feel like they should try their hardest to

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Speaker 3: I would think.

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Speaker 5: I mean, people love Batman, people will go there's a

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lot of people would go see two Batman movies in

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a year. But I do think that's gonna shrink your

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market the closer you put those together, especially if someone sees, like,

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let's say Batman two is about to release, but like

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the Brave of the Bold trailers already out there and

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people are watching, They're like, you know what, I'd rather

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go see this other one with Glenn Powell as Batman.

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could be risky. So I like, maybe Batman two gets

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a delay just in terms of like within the same year,

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like a month or two, like just to have better

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release date balance for the for the DC calendar. But

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I think they would be a mistake one if they

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just keep kicking that back. I mean, Penguin's very hot

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right now, and the longer you leave that, the more

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people are gonna kind of forget about and move on.

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And then Batman one came out like what like seventeen

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years ago. Now it's been so long ago, like it

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feels like forever ago. So I feel like they need

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to put double time on that, make sure it gets

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out and then but I think the biggest part of

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that is, yeah, separate right from the other Batman movie

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that's coming, so hopefully hopefully it doesn't get a meaningful delay,

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just gets like a consequential like month or two delay,

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just to line up their calendars better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think I've said this before many times that James

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gunn he is prioritizing his universe first. And I think

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you have things already in motion, like the Penguin Show

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and like Matt Reeves Batman and so those were already

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out there. But again, after seeing the bad fallout. Post

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release of Joker, Falada, James Gun is probably thinking, you

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know what, these first ones that are hits, you know,

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the sequels yet probably not great. And I don't think.

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Speaker 5: He's I can just imagine him chewing out Matt Reeves

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for Joker too, even though Matt Reeves has like no

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Speaker 1: Get on the bench.

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Speaker 2: I think that at the end of the day, he

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his little universe, even though again super Man is not

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supposed to be setting up universe. It's its own thing.

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And this is just an outside element that he did

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not create.

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Speaker 1: It's not his. And so I feel.

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Speaker 2: Again that he's just gonna keep pushing it and pushing

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and pushing it. If if a guy, if you want

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to make something happen, and you're the leader and you're

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running the show, then you're gonna make it happen. I mean,

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he just he made the Superman movie happen again. Uh,

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and he's he's putting that forward. He's done his Creature

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Commandos show. He's he's making things happen. And again, if

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you have the power you can move mountains, then you

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know you're gonna move mountains. You're gonna do it. And

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so if we were, if he wanted to, we would

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get The Batman Part two. It's all I'm saying, Well,

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we're not. It's getting delayed and delayed and delayed, and

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I think that's gonna come to a point where you're

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you're never gonna see this movie. And I hope that's

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not the case, because I really love that first Batman

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movie and I really love the Penguin, and so I

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hope that they can rally together and they can make

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it happen, because we deserve to get a sequel to

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that film, deserve to get the trilogy, because that's how

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from what I remember, things are kind of like set

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up in Stage four us to be a three parter.

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I'm I'm excited. I'm curious to see how James Gunn

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kind of delivers on all these different fronts. But my

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excitement out of all these projects is still gonna be

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just The Batman Too, which ironically is just not a

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James gun project. I mean, I guess it is now technically, but.

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Speaker 5: Oh, he'll slap his name all over those credits.

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Speaker 4: You know he's gonna animate himself in the intro he

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does Future Commandos.

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Speaker 3: That's right. I don't know if I have anything else

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on this particular topic.

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Speaker 1: A Patreon question to address just a.

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Speaker 2: Patreo Oh yes, we don't forget those here now from

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Maddie SAgs. Would y'all cast as Clayface.

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Speaker 5: Kirkling, I feel like you're the biggest clay face head.

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We got to two picks.

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Speaker 4: In my brain, I was gonna go last because didn't

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want to accidentally steal out one of you guys, but

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I'll go now since you've focused the highlight on me.

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Speaker 1: Initially, my mind went Willem.

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Speaker 4: Dafoe because I feel like he's just in the prime

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of like he's just so fantastic, Like he's not a

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new actor, and I feel like he's always been great,

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but it just seems like he's in so many things.

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Speaker 1: Now, like every year. It's just like a Willem Dafaue project.

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Speaker 4: And I think it would be a great like transition

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into like going from Marvel to DC doing a character

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like that, And I think he could just chew up.

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He could be playing like so many different versions of

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his own characters that he's played in his career, just

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through different personas that he could be doing for Basil Carlo.

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And he's just I would love that, Like I'm already

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hyped for the thought of getting a clay Face project.

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Speaker 1: And if you tell me, William Dafoe.

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Speaker 4: Is leading that God dialm, like sign me up, I'm

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there at midnight to get my tickets, even though we

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don't do that anymore.

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Speaker 1: Then the other one that I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I he just popped in my head recently because I

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was thinking about Breaking Bad and I was talking about

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this character with someone at work, and uh, Jesse Plemmons, Dude,

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Jesse Plemmons. I feel like he could be another fantastic

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take on a Basil Carlough, like different to Willin Dafoe,

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but also not so different in like just the oddities

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of I think what they bring to the roles. And

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I mean that in the most positive sense possible, Like

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they're just very unique in the sense of how, oh

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my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Help me out.

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Speaker 4: Lad's what's Riddler's name? What's the actor? Yeah, Paul Dana

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also accurate, also very unique, you know, one of one.

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Both good pitches and both were the Riddlers, So there

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you go. But yeah, I just feel like when I

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see like a Paul Dano, like I just am expecting

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like a like a weird role in the most positive

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sense possible because I love him.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 5: Your Riddler, Like, that's the Riddler that.

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Speaker 4: If he was on family Feud, you know, like, what's

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what's an actor that played the Riddler that he's hitting

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that right away or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was my.

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Speaker 3: Picks nice, my pick I.

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Speaker 5: So I didn't mention this in what we've been watching,

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but this is two or three weeks ago. I watched

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a Gloria's Baskets again, which I just love. And so

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my pick here is gonna be Christolph Waltz. Where's this

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guy been? Where's he been?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 5: Have you seen him in anything in the last decade?

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Speaker 3: What's he up to?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's probably in like a really weird heartwarming

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movie where like a child actor is the role like

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the lead, and then he's like a very like old

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like sideway.

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Speaker 3: Does it have to be weird? You said, a weird

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heartwarming movie?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 4: Hallmark Hallmark.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 5: I hope he's doing more than the Hallmark stuff because

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he's a great actor. But I mean inglorious bastard. I mean,

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this guy whips out like six different languages in this.

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I'm sure he could do some accents as well, so

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I feel like he could really pull I mean, I

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guess with Clay Face, I guess the character would be

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shape shifting, so it wouldn't just be like the same

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guy speaking multiple language.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know. You can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 5: It's Clayface, you know, so I'd say go with that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, maybe it's type.

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Speaker 5: Guy's name is a villain, which's which he's done, you know,

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a few times before. But I don't know, I just

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want to see him. I feel like he hasn't done

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any superhero stuff. I feel like that's like a realm

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he hasn't ventured into, and this seems really cool, and like,

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I don't I would love to see him in like

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a starring role, which it seems like this would be.

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So I'm definitely in favor of this.

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Speaker 3: Bring bring him back.

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Speaker 2: He's got a movie releasing. It appeared to dropped in

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some film festivals twenty twenty four. In October, but it's

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releasing publicly in theaters twenty twenty five. It looks like

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it's called Old Guy where he looks like it's an

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action comedy. It looks like he looks like he's kind

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of got like a leading role in here. Uh Lucy

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lou Cooper Hoffman.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, so you're speaking of me. You're speaking

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of me.

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Speaker 1: Stuff does nothing for me.

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Speaker 5: It's only if it's a weird, heartwarming work.

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Speaker 1: It's weird. He didn't say weird in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who am I picking for my clay face? You

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know what, I'm gonna go have your bar dam. I'd

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love to see this guy. I've just been getting the

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No Country for Old Men met memes gifts just popping up.

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Speaker 5: I think you said meat and the No Country for

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Old Men Meat.

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Speaker 1: I also full Yellowstone. He's thinking about his next breakfast.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to mention this too. There is a show

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called is this called Monster? Yes, Monsters, The Lyle and

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Eric Menendez Story, And I've earlier. Yeah, he's in there,

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and I watched like two episodes in and I have

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to go back and finish more of it because I'm

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kind of confused. If this is like when the show

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actually released, because I thought it was released recently, but

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apparently it's not.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, there's two different ones.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, there is two different ones.

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Speaker 4: There's the dam one that came out a couple of

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years ago, and then now it's Monsters, the Eric and

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Lyle or an Endos story.

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Speaker 5: But then I think there was also two things about

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those brothers on Netflix, like two separate.

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Speaker 1: You are correct, yes, yeah, my head.

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Speaker 3: True crime is just spewed all over Netflix.

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Speaker 1: It's every amazonly in one of them.

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Speaker 2: And the one he's in it is like it's it's

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really good. He's fantastic, he's angry, he's happy, and it's.

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Speaker 3: Just the amemark of any great act.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Well, the scenes with him are just so so tense

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and crazy. I think he could play a good h

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a good Clay face. I put a lot of stock

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in him.

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Speaker 5: Nice too, I trust it, and uh, I guess we Well,

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someone else on our patren had a good suggestion here

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for what they want to see, right, we can.

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Speaker 1: Talk about on their own podcast.

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Speaker 2: Not that he was asked, but he hadn't answered.

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Speaker 5: He was not asked, but Clay says, not that you

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asked me, but I would cast up to Tell and

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let him get weird with it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, weird he used the word weird.

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Speaker 5: Unlus we know he has acting action shops. Definitely, Yeah,

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I don't know, like Perklin, Since you're familiar with the character,

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do you think Dev Pattel is a good fit for

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this this?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: I think Dev Ptel is just such a phenomenal actor

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that he could be playing so many different individuals. And

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I would like to see him in that villain role

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because I feel like the things I've seen him in

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lately have been that hero which is so good at

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but well Green Knight, He's questionable at times. He does

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some morality questionable things.

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Speaker 3: No more, I love to pick.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like every fan cast we've done

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in the last two years, I've put Dev in like

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any role I put him in, a green I put

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I don't any time we do anything, I put him somewhere.

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Speaker 3: So I'm all for it too.

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Speaker 1: Have you watched Monkey Man yet? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I really know it's on my last I haven't seen

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it yet, but sure give it to Patel.

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Speaker 1: That's the casting director. Tell give it to Patel.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm. Cool.